[AccessD] [dba-OT] Our first Winter Storm of the season!

[Jim Lawrence]

That is very interesting.

Jim

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From: "James Button" <jamesbutton at blueyonder.co.uk>
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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 5:13:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-OT] Our first Winter Storm of the season!

Basic process I use 
At first frost 
Cut all 'leaves' off - and cut any excessively curled or rotted edges from the
remnant of the old leaves that form the stem.
Idea is to not have parts of the plant that will rot too swiftly, or direct rain
or condensing moisture into the stem.

Now - wrap the step in about 2" of insulation - plant matter or rockwool
Don't want to hold moisture against the stem.
Loosely wrap that in plastic to keep rain etc. from soaking the insulation -
Now - for more protection - wrap that - without compressing it in a further
layer of material 
The further layer is to get damp - or even wet, but not so that it slides down
the stem or compresses the inner layer  
And then a reasonably robust  black plastic bag over the top  to stop rain
getting in to the stem or structure from the top.

Theory - the inner layer forms an air gap and the outer layer will freeze
stopping the immediate cold from penetrating to the stem 
Sort of like a pond freezes on-top but not underneath.
The absence of light will slow down growth that occurs during the not so cold
periods
And the capping bag should be stretched by leaves when they do grow,
The tops of the new leaves in the bag may get frosted - but there should be some
new ones apparent when you take the bag off in the spring 

Mostly, the intent is to protect the inner growing tip and developing leaves
from being frozen by snow, or rainwater assisted penetrating frosts.

And - re. rhizome and growth - I had a rhizome of a plant with a 120mm wide
stem,  grow a 'pup' horizontally under the slab and expanding to lift a 60 x
600x 900 path paving slab by a couple of inches. 
Easy to deal with - apart from the slab weight - lift slab, spade off the end of
the rhizome life the pup and it's small amount of roots relay slab and put the
pup to be a 'present' for someone!

(In the 'temperate' South East of England - anything from Mediterranean summers
to  60mm rain in a day, or  -10°c and 3' of snow laying for a few months.- so
little expectation of 'fruit') 

JimB   
 

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-OT] Our first Winter Storm of the season!

Like I said - no such thing as a banana "tree".   :)

Trees have perennial (1) , woody (2) trunks.  

1.  The banana is a herb similar to ginger etc  (only bigger). It grows from a
rhizome,  The 
"trunk" dies after it has borne one crop of fruit.  New banana plants are
generate as suckers 
by the rhizome and they are short lived.  Only the rhizome itself is
"perrenial". 
  
2.  The banana doesn't have a trunk, woody or otherwise. (Other non- trees such
as 
bamboos and palms, do have trunks)   The banana's  pseudostem is just a
compressed 
mass of leaves (like an onion or  leek)

See http://www.fao.org/docrep/006/t0308e/T0308E03.htm

:)



On 27 Nov 2016 at 3:01, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> So wise one...what is a banana tree?
> 
> http://www.bananaplants.net/banananinfo.html
> 
> Jim
> 
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> From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016
> 10:50:03 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-OT] Our first Winter Storm of
> the season!
> 
> No such thing as a banana tree  <whistling>
> 
> :)
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 26 Nov 2016 at 20:54, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> 
> > Wrap the tree up. The local park did that for years with their
> > Banana trees and it wasn't until some municipal politician decided
> > to save money that the trees died.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
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