From darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au  Fri Mar  2 15:13:58 2018
From: darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 21:13:58 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR04MB6498A978DAFD7131F6CD8F3BDC60@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CO2PR04MB649C26F21D7094147E860DEBDC70@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<MEXPR01MB1832DA424AE7A11C46FDEF7BFCC60@MEXPR01MB1832.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
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Sounds like the best path forward John, given the circumstances.  Access 2016 can work in MDB mode and hasn't given me any issues - but it has been a few years since I have used MDB and I cannot validate this to the level of confidence you would want.



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bodin
Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2018 2:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's

Hi Darryl,

Customer is eventually going to have program re-written for the web and mobile app, so for now they want to keep things steady (and it has been working very well for over 15 years except for some query problems I posted about a few years ago.)  They don't want to spend the bucks on upgrading everyone to an O365 package that comes with Access 2016 or spend money on me getting 2016 runtime on all the machines.  They just bought new building so there will be the craziness of the move and prep, and they don't want to deal with any problems that tend to creep up with incompatible libraries and the like when you migrate up the Access chain.

I have an opportunity to push out a separate access app to their mobile technicians on a new RDS Server, that talks to the same tables on the back end of their existing MDB data database.  Thought I'd try and bring that to light in a new 2016 FE-format and publish on the RDS server.  It's not a major piece, so I could fairly quickly convert it back to the older MDB should problems come up that I can rectify in 2016.

Since there will be about 60 users on the system once I put the new piece on, I was looking for some validation that the 2016 FE would work or not work well with MDB BE.

Thanks,

John
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's

Access 2016 has been the most stable version of Access I have used to date - and have been stuffing around with is since Access 2.0.
Not sure if / how this translate to your question though on using MDB and A2003 FE set up.

Any reason you cannot convert to the newer format and update the FE db(s) to suit?



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bodin
Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2018 5:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's

Do any of you have experience in running a back-end Access MDB with a front-end Access 2016 along with other A2k3 and below front-ends?  Data portion of the Database is MDB format.   I know it can be done, just have a potential multi-version access front-end project that will be banged on 10 hours a day every day and didn't know how reliable the 2016 version is running the older MDB format.  Thanks.

John

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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Fri Mar  2 15:31:27 2018
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 16:31:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR04MB649C26F21D7094147E860DEBDC70@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CO2PR04MB649C26F21D7094147E860DEBDC70@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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 Should not be an issue.

 I don't have direct experience with that setup, but as long as it's in JET
4.0 format and data only, that is still supported in A2016 and there is no
reason to think it would be a problem.

 Starting with A2013, JET 3.x support was dropped.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John Bodin
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's

Do any of you have experience in running a back-end Access MDB with a
front-end Access 2016 along with other A2k3 and below front-ends?  Data
portion of the Database is MDB format.   I know it can be done, just have a
potential multi-version access front-end project that will be banged on 10
hours a day every day and didn't know how reliable the 2016 version is
running the older MDB format.  Thanks.

John

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From jbodin at sbor.com  Sat Mar  3 10:36:52 2018
From: jbodin at sbor.com (John Bodin)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 16:36:52 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's
In-Reply-To: <033901d3b26d$def95d20$9cec1760$@verizon.net>
References: <CO2PR04MB649C26F21D7094147E860DEBDC70@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<033901d3b26d$def95d20$9cec1760$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CO2PR04MB6491E8A043F77B4440A2734BDC40@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Yes, mdb is data only and using Jet 4.0.  Good to know about A2013 dropping 3.0 support.  Thank you.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 4:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's


 Should not be an issue.

 I don't have direct experience with that setup, but as long as it's in JET
4.0 format and data only, that is still supported in A2016 and there is no reason to think it would be a problem.

 Starting with A2013, JET 3.x support was dropped.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bodin
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's

Do any of you have experience in running a back-end Access MDB with a front-end Access 2016 along with other A2k3 and below front-ends?  Data
portion of the Database is MDB format.   I know it can be done, just have a
potential multi-version access front-end project that will be banged on 10 hours a day every day and didn't know how reliable the 2016 version is running the older MDB format.  Thanks.

John

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From jbodin at sbor.com  Sat Mar  3 10:36:53 2018
From: jbodin at sbor.com (John Bodin)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 16:36:53 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's
In-Reply-To: <MEXPR01MB1832A623584921E4C69BF95DFCC50@MEXPR01MB1832.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CO2PR04MB649C26F21D7094147E860DEBDC70@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<MEXPR01MB1832DA424AE7A11C46FDEF7BFCC60@MEXPR01MB1832.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
	<CO2PR04MB6498A978DAFD7131F6CD8F3BDC60@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<MEXPR01MB1832A623584921E4C69BF95DFCC50@MEXPR01MB1832.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CO2PR04MB649E284F8E7FFF6889AE6DCBDC40@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Well, I'll give it a bid and will probably know soon enough if I have problems.  Hopefully not, but if I do, I'd imagine a lot of the code I could transfer back to an earlier version of Access and proceed.  Thanks for responses.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 4:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's

Sounds like the best path forward John, given the circumstances.  Access 2016 can work in MDB mode and hasn't given me any issues - but it has been a few years since I have used MDB and I cannot validate this to the level of confidence you would want.



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bodin
Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2018 2:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's

Hi Darryl,

Customer is eventually going to have program re-written for the web and mobile app, so for now they want to keep things steady (and it has been working very well for over 15 years except for some query problems I posted about a few years ago.)  They don't want to spend the bucks on upgrading everyone to an O365 package that comes with Access 2016 or spend money on me getting 2016 runtime on all the machines.  They just bought new building so there will be the craziness of the move and prep, and they don't want to deal with any problems that tend to creep up with incompatible libraries and the like when you migrate up the Access chain.

I have an opportunity to push out a separate access app to their mobile technicians on a new RDS Server, that talks to the same tables on the back end of their existing MDB data database.  Thought I'd try and bring that to light in a new 2016 FE-format and publish on the RDS server.  It's not a major piece, so I could fairly quickly convert it back to the older MDB should problems come up that I can rectify in 2016.

Since there will be about 60 users on the system once I put the new piece on, I was looking for some validation that the 2016 FE would work or not work well with MDB BE.

Thanks,

John
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's

Access 2016 has been the most stable version of Access I have used to date - and have been stuffing around with is since Access 2.0.
Not sure if / how this translate to your question though on using MDB and A2003 FE set up.

Any reason you cannot convert to the newer format and update the FE db(s) to suit?



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bodin
Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2018 5:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2016 w/MDB's

Do any of you have experience in running a back-end Access MDB with a front-end Access 2016 along with other A2k3 and below front-ends?  Data portion of the Database is MDB format.   I know it can be done, just have a potential multi-version access front-end project that will be banged on 10 hours a day every day and didn't know how reliable the 2016 version is running the older MDB format.  Thanks.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Mar  4 19:27:43 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 18:27:43 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Developers
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR15MB01385EC5680AAB7A0AE1649E93DB0@CO2PR15MB0138.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iYCo2GcpYDUte78J1cXoUx2Y092EfaKmVDf+o-2xVVgQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<016601d3b403$93cacf40$bb606dc0$@bchacc.com>
	<CO2PR15MB01385EC5680AAB7A0AE1649E93DB0@CO2PR15MB0138.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <600385863.358400329.1520213263318.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

For years I specialized in doing development work for point-of-sale (POS) systems and their associated accounting. 

Early on I discovered a book that allowed me to design these systems. It is not a large book (240 pages) but it covered all aspects and logic behind every business that sells to customers. If anyone wants to learn the finer points of how to construct a POS, check out the following book. It was very expensive when I bought first, some thirty-five years ago but the principles haven't changed (Other than real-time account transaction posting has replaced batch-processing...computers were slow then) The price is right:

Structured Systems Analysis: Tools and Techniques
https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Systems-Analysis-Techniques-databooks/dp/0930196007
http://amzn.to/2FRUXw6

Jim

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Mar  4 20:34:08 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:34:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Developers
In-Reply-To: <600385863.358400329.1520213263318.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1iYCo2GcpYDUte78J1cXoUx2Y092EfaKmVDf+o-2xVVgQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CO2PR15MB01385EC5680AAB7A0AE1649E93DB0@CO2PR15MB0138.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>,
	<600385863.358400329.1520213263318.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <5A9CACA0.2254.A93E2A82@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Ah yes, the seminal work on the  Gane and Sarson notation for  Data Flow Diagrams.
A very widely used Systems Analysis tool in all sorts of fields, not just POS system.

I still use G&S notation DFDs  as a primary design tool :-)

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On 4 Mar 2018 at 18:27, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> For years I specialized in doing development work for point-of-sale
> (POS) systems and their associated accounting. 
> 
> Early on I discovered a book that allowed me to design these systems.
> It is not a large book (240 pages) but it covered all aspects and
> logic behind every business that sells to customers. If anyone wants
> to learn the finer points of how to construct a POS, check out the
> following book. It was very expensive when I bought first, some
> thirty-five years ago but the principles haven't changed (Other than
> real-time account transaction posting has replaced
> batch-processing...computers were slow then) The price is right:
> 
> Structured Systems Analysis: Tools and Techniques
> https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Systems-Analysis-Techniques-databook
> s/dp/0930196007 http://amzn.to/2FRUXw6
> 
> Jim
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> 



From bensonforums at gmail.com  Sun Mar  4 22:18:21 2018
From: bensonforums at gmail.com (Bill Benson)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 23:18:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Developers
In-Reply-To: <600385863.358400329.1520213263318.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1iYCo2GcpYDUte78J1cXoUx2Y092EfaKmVDf+o-2xVVgQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<016601d3b403$93cacf40$bb606dc0$@bchacc.com>
	<CO2PR15MB01385EC5680AAB7A0AE1649E93DB0@CO2PR15MB0138.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
	<600385863.358400329.1520213263318.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAJLzs_3g7qshRV83KnMyCy5TwP0AJ=FejqHo10BuuHOAVKJc=Q@mail.gmail.com>

I found it amusing that while viewing the title on Amazon, I was to that
customers who viewed this product also viewed

Master 3rd grade-level math skills


Wow!

On Mar 4, 2018 8:30 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> For years I specialized in doing development work for point-of-sale (POS)
> systems and their associated accounting.
>
> Early on I discovered a book that allowed me to design these systems. It
> is not a large book (240 pages) but it covered all aspects and logic behind
> every business that sells to customers. If anyone wants to learn the finer
> points of how to construct a POS, check out the following book. It was very
> expensive when I bought first, some thirty-five years ago but the
> principles haven't changed (Other than real-time account transaction
> posting has replaced batch-processing...computers were slow then) The price
> is right:
>
> Structured Systems Analysis: Tools and Techniques
> https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Systems-Analysis-
> Techniques-databooks/dp/0930196007
> http://amzn.to/2FRUXw6
>
> Jim
> --
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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>

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar  5 09:42:29 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 07:42:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR06MB2619EB4159F900AE60EFC01698DA0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <008e01d3a74c$ef63e210$ce2ba630$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB26193496614E8C397741453598CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<001501d3a763$8a4ab8b0$9ee02a10$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB261946955ED72BB8B954905998CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<004201d3a781$92dad0f0$b89072d0$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB2619EB4159F900AE60EFC01698DA0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <002c01d3b498$91d17b90$b57472b0$@bchacc.com>

Dear Lists:

 

A client of mine with who I am working long distance, needs a bar code
scanner to deliver bar code data to the app I wrote for him.  

 

In the past I recommended to clients who needed bar code scanning to use the
'wedge' approach as to the app the scanned code looked like it was coming
from the keyboard, so no additional development or testing was required on
my part. Just click into the appropriate text box and walla! The code would
appear there.

 

He's looking to me to recommend a scanner.  Most of them now are straight
USB, many Bluetooth.  What I don't know is, when you are using a scanner
plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  I think I  could
probably figure this out if I had the scanner here and some of his bar
codes.  But maybe that would be unnecessary. 

 

So when plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  Does the
app have to poll the port for data?

 

MTIA 

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

www.bchacc.com

www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

 

From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:32 AM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

 

Can you point me to the one I need to purchase?  Does it come with a dongle
for the Bluetooth?  

 

Thanks,

Mark

 

From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 6:55 PM
To: Mark Carey <m.carey at imcfab.com>
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

 

That one may not work for you Mark.  It's for POS/Android/IOS/Imac/Ipad.
You need something that's Windows compatible.  The specs say 

 

"It also can work with PC. If you don't know how connect with your PC,
please contact seller for driver which can help you connect scanner with
your PC easyly."  So that might not be so straightforward.  

 

There's another one on the page 

 

https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-Handheld-Automatic/dp/B006
LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8
<https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-Handheld-Automatic/dp/B00
6LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keybo
ard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1>
&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1

 

which is wired but specifies that it reads the most common bar code types:

 

"Supports a wide range of barcodes types: UPC/EAN, UCC/EAN 128, Code 39,
Code 39 Full ASCII, Trioptic Code 39, Code 128, Code 128 Full ASCII,
Codabar, Interleaved 2 of 5, Discrete 2 of 5, Code 93, MSI, Code 11, RSS
variants, Chinese 2 of 5"

 

And is plug and play with any USB port. Might be a better choice.  If the
cable is too short you can get a USB extension cord - male on one end,
female on the other.

 

 

R

 

 

From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:20 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

 

I got the one with link below.  $79.00

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akeyboard+wedge+barcode
+scanner
<https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akeyboard+wedge+barcod
e+scanner&page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802
361> &page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802361

 

 


From jbodin at sbor.com  Mon Mar  5 10:08:57 2018
From: jbodin at sbor.com (John Bodin)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 16:08:57 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
In-Reply-To: <002c01d3b498$91d17b90$b57472b0$@bchacc.com>
References: <008e01d3a74c$ef63e210$ce2ba630$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB26193496614E8C397741453598CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<001501d3a763$8a4ab8b0$9ee02a10$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB261946955ED72BB8B954905998CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<004201d3a781$92dad0f0$b89072d0$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB2619EB4159F900AE60EFC01698DA0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<002c01d3b498$91d17b90$b57472b0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <CO2PR04MB649BE31E5F9129BF74BF23CBDDA0@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Rocky, works the same way.  Wherever you have the cursor and then hit the scan, the data will go there.  Person would click in whatever appropriate field on your data entry screen, then scan the barcode and it would type the data in there.  If they had Notepad open and scanned the barcode, scan would go to Notepad.


hth


John






John Bodin

sBOR Office Systems

jbodin at sbor.com<mailto:jbodin at sbor.com>




________________________________
From: AccessD <accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 10:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

Dear Lists:



A client of mine with who I am working long distance, needs a bar code
scanner to deliver bar code data to the app I wrote for him.



In the past I recommended to clients who needed bar code scanning to use the
'wedge' approach as to the app the scanned code looked like it was coming
from the keyboard, so no additional development or testing was required on
my part. Just click into the appropriate text box and walla! The code would
appear there.



He's looking to me to recommend a scanner.  Most of them now are straight
USB, many Bluetooth.  What I don't know is, when you are using a scanner
plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  I think I  could
probably figure this out if I had the scanner here and some of his bar
codes.  But maybe that would be unnecessary.



So when plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  Does the
app have to poll the port for data?



MTIA





Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

www.bchacc.com<http://www.bchacc.com>

www.e-z-mrp.com<http://www.e-z-mrp.com>

Skype: rocky.smolin







From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:32 AM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners



Can you point me to the one I need to purchase?  Does it come with a dongle
for the Bluetooth?



Thanks,

Mark



From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 6:55 PM
To: Mark Carey <m.carey at imcfab.com>
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners



That one may not work for you Mark.  It's for POS/Android/IOS/Imac/Ipad.
You need something that's Windows compatible.  The specs say



"It also can work with PC. If you don't know how connect with your PC,
please contact seller for driver which can help you connect scanner with
your PC easyly."  So that might not be so straightforward.



There's another one on the page



https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-Handheld-Automatic/dp/B006
LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8
<https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-Handheld-Automatic/dp/B00
6LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keybo
ard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1>
&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1



which is wired but specifies that it reads the most common bar code types:



"Supports a wide range of barcodes types: UPC/EAN, UCC/EAN 128, Code 39,
Code 39 Full ASCII, Trioptic Code 39, Code 128, Code 128 Full ASCII,
Codabar, Interleaved 2 of 5, Discrete 2 of 5, Code 93, MSI, Code 11, RSS
variants, Chinese 2 of 5"



And is plug and play with any USB port. Might be a better choice.  If the
cable is too short you can get a USB extension cord - male on one end,
female on the other.





R





From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:20 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners



I got the one with link below.  $79.00





https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akeyboard+wedge+barcode
+scanner
<https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akeyboard+wedge+barcod
e+scanner&page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802
361> &page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802361





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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar  5 10:30:36 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 08:30:36 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR04MB649BE31E5F9129BF74BF23CBDDA0@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <008e01d3a74c$ef63e210$ce2ba630$@bchacc.com>	<DM5PR06MB26193496614E8C397741453598CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>	<001501d3a763$8a4ab8b0$9ee02a10$@bchacc.com>	<DM5PR06MB261946955ED72BB8B954905998CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>	<004201d3a781$92dad0f0$b89072d0$@bchacc.com>	<DM5PR06MB2619EB4159F900AE60EFC01698DA0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<002c01d3b498$91d17b90$b57472b0$@bchacc.com>
	<CO2PR04MB649BE31E5F9129BF74BF23CBDDA0@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <003601d3b49f$4a7ca9c0$df75fd40$@bchacc.com>

Perfect!  Thank you.  Do you know if it's the same for a Bluetooth enabled
scanner as well?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John Bodin
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

Hi Rocky, works the same way.  Wherever you have the cursor and then hit the
scan, the data will go there.  Person would click in whatever appropriate
field on your data entry screen, then scan the barcode and it would type the
data in there.  If they had Notepad open and scanned the barcode, scan would
go to Notepad.


hth


John






John Bodin

sBOR Office Systems

jbodin at sbor.com<mailto:jbodin at sbor.com>




________________________________
From: AccessD <accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of Rocky
Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 10:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

Dear Lists:



A client of mine with who I am working long distance, needs a bar code
scanner to deliver bar code data to the app I wrote for him.



In the past I recommended to clients who needed bar code scanning to use the
'wedge' approach as to the app the scanned code looked like it was coming
from the keyboard, so no additional development or testing was required on
my part. Just click into the appropriate text box and walla! The code would
appear there.



He's looking to me to recommend a scanner.  Most of them now are straight
USB, many Bluetooth.  What I don't know is, when you are using a scanner
plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  I think I  could
probably figure this out if I had the scanner here and some of his bar
codes.  But maybe that would be unnecessary.



So when plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  Does the
app have to poll the port for data?



MTIA





Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

www.bchacc.com<http://www.bchacc.com>

www.e-z-mrp.com<http://www.e-z-mrp.com>

Skype: rocky.smolin







From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:32 AM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners



Can you point me to the one I need to purchase?  Does it come with a dongle
for the Bluetooth?



Thanks,

Mark



From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 6:55 PM
To: Mark Carey <m.carey at imcfab.com>
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners



That one may not work for you Mark.  It's for POS/Android/IOS/Imac/Ipad.
You need something that's Windows compatible.  The specs say



"It also can work with PC. If you don't know how connect with your PC,
please contact seller for driver which can help you connect scanner with
your PC easyly."  So that might not be so straightforward.



There's another one on the page



https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-Handheld-Automatic/dp/B006
LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8
<https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-Handheld-Automatic/dp/B00
6LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keybo
ard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1>
&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1



which is wired but specifies that it reads the most common bar code types:



"Supports a wide range of barcodes types: UPC/EAN, UCC/EAN 128, Code 39,
Code 39 Full ASCII, Trioptic Code 39, Code 128, Code 128 Full ASCII,
Codabar, Interleaved 2 of 5, Discrete 2 of 5, Code 93, MSI, Code 11, RSS
variants, Chinese 2 of 5"



And is plug and play with any USB port. Might be a better choice.  If the
cable is too short you can get a USB extension cord - male on one end,
female on the other.





R





From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:20 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners



I got the one with link below.  $79.00





https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akeyboard+wedge+barcode
+scanner
<https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akeyboard+wedge+barcod
e+scanner&page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=151
e+8802
361> &page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802
361> 361





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From wrwehler at gmail.com  Mon Mar  5 10:34:30 2018
From: wrwehler at gmail.com (Ryan W)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 10:34:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
In-Reply-To: <003601d3b49f$4a7ca9c0$df75fd40$@bchacc.com>
References: <008e01d3a74c$ef63e210$ce2ba630$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB26193496614E8C397741453598CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<001501d3a763$8a4ab8b0$9ee02a10$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB261946955ED72BB8B954905998CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<004201d3a781$92dad0f0$b89072d0$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB2619EB4159F900AE60EFC01698DA0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<002c01d3b498$91d17b90$b57472b0$@bchacc.com>
	<CO2PR04MB649BE31E5F9129BF74BF23CBDDA0@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<003601d3b49f$4a7ca9c0$df75fd40$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <CAFXiSd8NMHWBHyfvEug1kDEBVkTkhRH7H3dX2sUBtRMVT3wBTg@mail.gmail.com>

Rocky,
   I imagine unless you are using a "Store and Forward" type scanner I
would imagine most barcode scanners out there simply output the scanned
text to whatever app/textbox is in focus at the time regardless of their
method of connection.



On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:

> Perfect!  Thank you.  Do you know if it's the same for a Bluetooth enabled
> scanner as well?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> John Bodin
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:09 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
>
> Hi Rocky, works the same way.  Wherever you have the cursor and then hit
> the
> scan, the data will go there.  Person would click in whatever appropriate
> field on your data entry screen, then scan the barcode and it would type
> the
> data in there.  If they had Notepad open and scanned the barcode, scan
> would
> go to Notepad.
>
>
> hth
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Bodin
>
> sBOR Office Systems
>
> jbodin at sbor.com<mailto:jbodin at sbor.com>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: AccessD <accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of Rocky
> Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 10:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
> Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
>
> Dear Lists:
>
>
>
> A client of mine with who I am working long distance, needs a bar code
> scanner to deliver bar code data to the app I wrote for him.
>
>
>
> In the past I recommended to clients who needed bar code scanning to use
> the
> 'wedge' approach as to the app the scanned code looked like it was coming
> from the keyboard, so no additional development or testing was required on
> my part. Just click into the appropriate text box and walla! The code would
> appear there.
>
>
>
> He's looking to me to recommend a scanner.  Most of them now are straight
> USB, many Bluetooth.  What I don't know is, when you are using a scanner
> plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  I think I  could
> probably figure this out if I had the scanner here and some of his bar
> codes.  But maybe that would be unnecessary.
>
>
>
> So when plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  Does the
> app have to poll the port for data?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 760-683-5777
>
> www.bchacc.com<http://www.bchacc.com>
>
> www.e-z-mrp.com<http://www.e-z-mrp.com>
>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:32 AM
> To: Rocky Smolin
> Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
>
>
>
> Can you point me to the one I need to purchase?  Does it come with a dongle
> for the Bluetooth?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 6:55 PM
> To: Mark Carey <m.carey at imcfab.com>
> Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
>
>
>
> That one may not work for you Mark.  It's for POS/Android/IOS/Imac/Ipad.
> You need something that's Windows compatible.  The specs say
>
>
>
> "It also can work with PC. If you don't know how connect with your PC,
> please contact seller for driver which can help you connect scanner with
> your PC easyly."  So that might not be so straightforward.
>
>
>
> There's another one on the page
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-
> Handheld-Automatic/dp/B006
> LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8
> <https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-
> Handheld-Automatic/dp/B00
> 6LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-
> spons&keywords=keybo
> ard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1>
> &qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keyboard+wedge+
> barcode+scanner&psc=1
>
>
>
> which is wired but specifies that it reads the most common bar code types:
>
>
>
> "Supports a wide range of barcodes types: UPC/EAN, UCC/EAN 128, Code 39,
> Code 39 Full ASCII, Trioptic Code 39, Code 128, Code 128 Full ASCII,
> Codabar, Interleaved 2 of 5, Discrete 2 of 5, Code 93, MSI, Code 11, RSS
> variants, Chinese 2 of 5"
>
>
>
> And is plug and play with any USB port. Might be a better choice.  If the
> cable is too short you can get a USB extension cord - male on one end,
> female on the other.
>
>
>
>
>
> R
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:20 PM
> To: Rocky Smolin
> Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
>
>
>
> I got the one with link below.  $79.00
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%
> 3Akeyboard+wedge+barcode
> +scanner
> <https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%
> 3Akeyboard+wedge+barcod
> e+scanner&page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=151
> e+8802
> 361> &page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802
> 361> 361
>
>
>
>
>
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From jbodin at sbor.com  Mon Mar  5 10:57:33 2018
From: jbodin at sbor.com (John Bodin)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 16:57:33 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
In-Reply-To: <003601d3b49f$4a7ca9c0$df75fd40$@bchacc.com>
References: <008e01d3a74c$ef63e210$ce2ba630$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB26193496614E8C397741453598CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<001501d3a763$8a4ab8b0$9ee02a10$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB261946955ED72BB8B954905998CB0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<004201d3a781$92dad0f0$b89072d0$@bchacc.com>
	<DM5PR06MB2619EB4159F900AE60EFC01698DA0@DM5PR06MB2619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<002c01d3b498$91d17b90$b57472b0$@bchacc.com>
	<CO2PR04MB649BE31E5F9129BF74BF23CBDDA0@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>,
	<003601d3b49f$4a7ca9c0$df75fd40$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <CO2PR04MB649092ECF6C09D4F1C85350BDDA0@CO2PR04MB649.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I would imagine Bluetooth would be the same.  Where I am at today, they have been using a Inateck BCST-20 barcode scanner that is USB 2.0 and can be used either wired or wireless.  They use it mostly wireless for scanning delivery packages into a web-based package delivery system.  Works well.  Has capability of storing tons of scans if PC unavailable or you are too far away from it, but not sure how they download those scans once in reach - just haven't experienced that yet.


John






John Bodin

sBOR Office Systems

jbodin at sbor.com<mailto:jbodin at sbor.com>




________________________________
From: AccessD <accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 11:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

Perfect!  Thank you.  Do you know if it's the same for a Bluetooth enabled
scanner as well?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John Bodin
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

Hi Rocky, works the same way.  Wherever you have the cursor and then hit the
scan, the data will go there.  Person would click in whatever appropriate
field on your data entry screen, then scan the barcode and it would type the
data in there.  If they had Notepad open and scanned the barcode, scan would
go to Notepad.


hth


John






John Bodin

sBOR Office Systems

jbodin at sbor.com<mailto:jbodin at sbor.com>




________________________________
From: AccessD <accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of Rocky
Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 10:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

Dear Lists:



A client of mine with who I am working long distance, needs a bar code
scanner to deliver bar code data to the app I wrote for him.



In the past I recommended to clients who needed bar code scanning to use the
'wedge' approach as to the app the scanned code looked like it was coming
from the keyboard, so no additional development or testing was required on
my part. Just click into the appropriate text box and walla! The code would
appear there.



He's looking to me to recommend a scanner.  Most of them now are straight
USB, many Bluetooth.  What I don't know is, when you are using a scanner
plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  I think I  could
probably figure this out if I had the scanner here and some of his bar
codes.  But maybe that would be unnecessary.



So when plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go?  Does the
app have to poll the port for data?



MTIA





Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

www.bchacc.com<http://www.bchacc.com>

www.e-z-mrp.com<http://www.e-z-mrp.com>

Skype: rocky.smolin







From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:32 AM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners



Can you point me to the one I need to purchase?  Does it come with a dongle
for the Bluetooth?



Thanks,

Mark



From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 6:55 PM
To: Mark Carey <m.carey at imcfab.com>
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners



That one may not work for you Mark.  It's for POS/Android/IOS/Imac/Ipad.
You need something that's Windows compatible.  The specs say



"It also can work with PC. If you don't know how connect with your PC,
please contact seller for driver which can help you connect scanner with
your PC easyly."  So that might not be so straightforward.



There's another one on the page



https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-Handheld-Automatic/dp/B006
LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8
<https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-Handheld-Automatic/dp/B00
6LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keybo
ard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1>
&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1



which is wired but specifies that it reads the most common bar code types:



"Supports a wide range of barcodes types: UPC/EAN, UCC/EAN 128, Code 39,
Code 39 Full ASCII, Trioptic Code 39, Code 128, Code 128 Full ASCII,
Codabar, Interleaved 2 of 5, Discrete 2 of 5, Code 93, MSI, Code 11, RSS
variants, Chinese 2 of 5"



And is plug and play with any USB port. Might be a better choice.  If the
cable is too short you can get a USB extension cord - male on one end,
female on the other.





R





From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:20 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners



I got the one with link below.  $79.00





https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akeyboard+wedge+barcode
+scanner
<https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akeyboard+wedge+barcod
e+scanner&page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=151
e+8802
361> &page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802
361> 361





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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar  5 12:26:57 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:26:57 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Developers
In-Reply-To: <5A9CACA0.2254.A93E2A82@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1iYCo2GcpYDUte78J1cXoUx2Y092EfaKmVDf+o-2xVVgQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CO2PR15MB01385EC5680AAB7A0AE1649E93DB0@CO2PR15MB0138.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
	<600385863.358400329.1520213263318.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5A9CACA0.2254.A93E2A82@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <795816140.360216350.1520274417736.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Did you use any data flow diagramming programs? Did you ever use Visio? The current pricing is not too bad. I remember paying $700+ and now it looking like a full professional version is about $350 but it can be rented for as little as $30 a month. 

Below is a link to an app that a couple of friends recommended as it runs on all platform and it allows the documents to be shared and collaborated:
https://www.edrawsoft.com/linuxdiagram/data-flow-diagram-software-linux.php
http://bit.ly/2FnByp4 
...and: https://www.yworks.com/products/yed

I persoanlly have been playing around with LibreOffice Draw, but I am not in the business anymore and the price is right:
https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/draw/

I could no imagine building or maintaining any significant database application without flow charting.

Aside: I have been working on seeing if I could migrate (re-write) a MSAccess application in LibreBase... It is definitely a bit of a challenge as there are only "event driven macros" and not as I am use to "full VB programming" but the resultant application can be migrated to the web... a definite plus and challenge. The BASE uses a ODB format similar to MDB, both proprietary but it is easy to export to SQL. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 6:34:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Developers

Ah yes, the seminal work on the  Gane and Sarson notation for  Data Flow Diagrams.
A very widely used Systems Analysis tool in all sorts of fields, not just POS system.

I still use G&S notation DFDs  as a primary design tool :-)

-- 
Stuart

On 4 Mar 2018 at 18:27, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> For years I specialized in doing development work for point-of-sale
> (POS) systems and their associated accounting. 
> 
> Early on I discovered a book that allowed me to design these systems.
> It is not a large book (240 pages) but it covered all aspects and
> logic behind every business that sells to customers. If anyone wants
> to learn the finer points of how to construct a POS, check out the
> following book. It was very expensive when I bought first, some
> thirty-five years ago but the principles haven't changed (Other than
> real-time account transaction posting has replaced
> batch-processing...computers were slow then) The price is right:
> 
> Structured Systems Analysis: Tools and Techniques
> https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Systems-Analysis-Techniques-databook
> s/dp/0930196007 http://amzn.to/2FRUXw6
> 
> Jim
> -- 
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar  5 12:31:41 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:31:41 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Developers
In-Reply-To: <CAJLzs_3g7qshRV83KnMyCy5TwP0AJ=FejqHo10BuuHOAVKJc=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iYCo2GcpYDUte78J1cXoUx2Y092EfaKmVDf+o-2xVVgQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<016601d3b403$93cacf40$bb606dc0$@bchacc.com>
	<CO2PR15MB01385EC5680AAB7A0AE1649E93DB0@CO2PR15MB0138.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
	<600385863.358400329.1520213263318.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<CAJLzs_3g7qshRV83KnMyCy5TwP0AJ=FejqHo10BuuHOAVKJc=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1515005032.360227601.1520274701342.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Amazon must correlate basic math skills and Structured System Analysis as equivalent. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Benson" <bensonforums at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 8:18:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Developers

I found it amusing that while viewing the title on Amazon, I was to that
customers who viewed this product also viewed

Master 3rd grade-level math skills


Wow!

On Mar 4, 2018 8:30 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> For years I specialized in doing development work for point-of-sale (POS)
> systems and their associated accounting.
>
> Early on I discovered a book that allowed me to design these systems. It
> is not a large book (240 pages) but it covered all aspects and logic behind
> every business that sells to customers. If anyone wants to learn the finer
> points of how to construct a POS, check out the following book. It was very
> expensive when I bought first, some thirty-five years ago but the
> principles haven't changed (Other than real-time account transaction
> posting has replaced batch-processing...computers were slow then) The price
> is right:
>
> Structured Systems Analysis: Tools and Techniques
> https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Systems-Analysis-
> Techniques-databooks/dp/0930196007
> http://amzn.to/2FRUXw6
>
> Jim
> --
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Mar  5 17:54:43 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 09:54:43 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
In-Reply-To: <CAFXiSd8NMHWBHyfvEug1kDEBVkTkhRH7H3dX2sUBtRMVT3wBTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <008e01d3a74c$ef63e210$ce2ba630$@bchacc.com>,
	<003601d3b49f$4a7ca9c0$df75fd40$@bchacc.com>,
	<CAFXiSd8NMHWBHyfvEug1kDEBVkTkhRH7H3dX2sUBtRMVT3wBTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5A9DD8C3.18385.ADD291D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

AFIAK, they all still act as "keyboard wedges" regardless of how they connect.  The driver 
just injects the inputs into the keyboard buffer.


On 5 Mar 2018 at 10:34, Ryan W wrote:

> Rocky,
>    I imagine unless you are using a "Store and Forward" type scanner I
> would imagine most barcode scanners out there simply output the
> scanned text to whatever app/textbox is in focus at the time
> regardless of their method of connection.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Perfect!  Thank you.  Do you know if it's the same for a Bluetooth
> > enabled scanner as well?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> > Behalf Of John Bodin Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:09 AM To:
> > 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off
> > Topic' Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> > Hi Rocky, works the same way.  Wherever you have the cursor and then
> > hit the scan, the data will go there.  Person would click in
> > whatever appropriate field on your data entry screen, then scan the
> > barcode and it would type the data in there.  If they had Notepad
> > open and scanned the barcode, scan would go to Notepad.
> >
> >
> > hth
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Bodin
> >
> > sBOR Office Systems
> >
> > jbodin at sbor.com<mailto:jbodin at sbor.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: AccessD <accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of
> > Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018
> > 10:42 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
> > List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> > Dear Lists:
> >
> >
> >
> > A client of mine with who I am working long distance, needs a bar
> > code scanner to deliver bar code data to the app I wrote for him.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the past I recommended to clients who needed bar code scanning to
> > use the 'wedge' approach as to the app the scanned code looked like
> > it was coming from the keyboard, so no additional development or
> > testing was required on my part. Just click into the appropriate
> > text box and walla! The code would appear there.
> >
> >
> >
> > He's looking to me to recommend a scanner.  Most of them now are
> > straight USB, many Bluetooth.  What I don't know is, when you are
> > using a scanner plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data
> > go?  I think I  could probably figure this out if I had the scanner
> > here and some of his bar codes.  But maybe that would be
> > unnecessary.
> >
> >
> >
> > So when plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go? 
> > Does the app have to poll the port for data?
> >
> >
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> >
> > Beach Access Software
> >
> > 760-683-5777
> >
> > www.bchacc.com<http://www.bchacc.com>
> >
> > www.e-z-mrp.com<http://www.e-z-mrp.com>
> >
> > Skype: rocky.smolin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:32 AM
> > To: Rocky Smolin
> > Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> >
> >
> > Can you point me to the one I need to purchase?  Does it come with a
> > dongle for the Bluetooth?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 6:55 PM
> > To: Mark Carey <m.carey at imcfab.com>
> > Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> >
> >
> > That one may not work for you Mark.  It's for
> > POS/Android/IOS/Imac/Ipad. You need something that's Windows
> > compatible.  The specs say
> >
> >
> >
> > "It also can work with PC. If you don't know how connect with your
> > PC, please contact seller for driver which can help you connect
> > scanner with your PC easyly."  So that might not be so
> > straightforward.
> >
> >
> >
> > There's another one on the page
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-
> > Handheld-Automatic/dp/B006
> > LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8
> > <https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-
> > Handheld-Automatic/dp/B00
> > 6LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-
> > spons&keywords=keybo
> > ard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1>
> > &qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keyboard+wedge+
> > barcode+scanner&psc=1
> >
> >
> >
> > which is wired but specifies that it reads the most common bar code
> > types:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Supports a wide range of barcodes types: UPC/EAN, UCC/EAN 128, Code
> > 39, Code 39 Full ASCII, Trioptic Code 39, Code 128, Code 128 Full
> > ASCII, Codabar, Interleaved 2 of 5, Discrete 2 of 5, Code 93, MSI,
> > Code 11, RSS variants, Chinese 2 of 5"
> >
> >
> >
> > And is plug and play with any USB port. Might be a better choice. 
> > If the cable is too short you can get a USB extension cord - male on
> > one end, female on the other.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > R
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:20 PM
> > To: Rocky Smolin
> > Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> >
> >
> > I got the one with link below.  $79.00
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%
> > 3Akeyboard+wedge+barcode
> > +scanner
> > <https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%
> > 3Akeyboard+wedge+barcod
> > e+scanner&page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid
> > =151 e+8802 361>
> > &page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802
> > 361> 361
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Mar  5 18:29:46 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 10:29:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Developers
In-Reply-To: <795816140.360216350.1520274417736.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1iYCo2GcpYDUte78J1cXoUx2Y092EfaKmVDf+o-2xVVgQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<5A9CACA0.2254.A93E2A82@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<795816140.360216350.1520274417736.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <5A9DE0FA.9313.ADF2A9A8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Yep, I've usd Visio and  Dia 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dia-installer/files/latest/download

Dia is my preference.  It does all you need and it's GNU GPL licenced  freeware :)

On 5 Mar 2018 at 11:26, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Did you use any data flow diagramming programs? Did you ever use
> Visio? The current pricing is not too bad. I remember paying $700+ and
> now it looking like a full professional version is about $350 but it
> can be rented for as little as $30 a month. 
> 
> Below is a link to an app that a couple of friends recommended as it
> runs on all platform and it allows the documents to be shared and
> collaborated:
> https://www.edrawsoft.com/linuxdiagram/data-flow-diagram-software-linu
> x.php http://bit.ly/2FnByp4 ...and:
> https://www.yworks.com/products/yed
> 
> I persoanlly have been playing around with LibreOffice Draw, but I am
> not in the business anymore and the price is right:
> https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/draw/
> 
> I could no imagine building or maintaining any significant database
> application without flow charting.
> 
> Aside: I have been working on seeing if I could migrate (re-write) a
> MSAccess application in LibreBase... It is definitely a bit of a
> challenge as there are only "event driven macros" and not as I am use
> to "full VB programming" but the resultant application can be migrated
> to the web... a definite plus and challenge. The BASE uses a ODB
> format similar to MDB, both proprietary but it is easy to export to
> SQL. 
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 6:34:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Developers
> 
> Ah yes, the seminal work on the  Gane and Sarson notation for  Data
> Flow Diagrams. A very widely used Systems Analysis tool in all sorts
> of fields, not just POS system.
> 
> I still use G&S notation DFDs  as a primary design tool :-)
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 4 Mar 2018 at 18:27, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> 
> > For years I specialized in doing development work for point-of-sale
> > (POS) systems and their associated accounting. 
> > 
> > Early on I discovered a book that allowed me to design these
> > systems. It is not a large book (240 pages) but it covered all
> > aspects and logic behind every business that sells to customers. If
> > anyone wants to learn the finer points of how to construct a POS,
> > check out the following book. It was very expensive when I bought
> > first, some thirty-five years ago but the principles haven't changed
> > (Other than real-time account transaction posting has replaced
> > batch-processing...computers were slow then) The price is right:
> > 
> > Structured Systems Analysis: Tools and Techniques
> > https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Systems-Analysis-Techniques-databo
> > ok s/dp/0930196007 http://amzn.to/2FRUXw6
> > 
> > Jim
> > -- 
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> 
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar  5 18:52:22 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 16:52:22 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
In-Reply-To: <5A9DD8C3.18385.ADD291D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <008e01d3a74c$ef63e210$ce2ba630$@bchacc.com>,
	<003601d3b49f$4a7ca9c0$df75fd40$@bchacc.com>,
	<CAFXiSd8NMHWBHyfvEug1kDEBVkTkhRH7H3dX2sUBtRMVT3wBTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5A9DD8C3.18385.ADD291D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00eb01d3b4e5$6315cd40$294167c0$@bchacc.com>

Good!  That's what I need it to do. I just can't be doing this long distance
(Unicoi Tennessee).

r

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners

AFIAK, they all still act as "keyboard wedges" regardless of how they
connect.  The driver just injects the inputs into the keyboard buffer.


On 5 Mar 2018 at 10:34, Ryan W wrote:

> Rocky,
>    I imagine unless you are using a "Store and Forward" type scanner I
> would imagine most barcode scanners out there simply output the
> scanned text to whatever app/textbox is in focus at the time
> regardless of their method of connection.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Perfect!  Thank you.  Do you know if it's the same for a Bluetooth
> > enabled scanner as well?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> > Behalf Of John Bodin Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:09 AM To:
> > 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off
> > Topic' Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> > Hi Rocky, works the same way.  Wherever you have the cursor and then
> > hit the scan, the data will go there.  Person would click in
> > whatever appropriate field on your data entry screen, then scan the
> > barcode and it would type the data in there.  If they had Notepad
> > open and scanned the barcode, scan would go to Notepad.
> >
> >
> > hth
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Bodin
> >
> > sBOR Office Systems
> >
> > jbodin at sbor.com<mailto:jbodin at sbor.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: AccessD <accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of
> > Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018
> > 10:42 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
> > List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [AccessD] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> > Dear Lists:
> >
> >
> >
> > A client of mine with who I am working long distance, needs a bar
> > code scanner to deliver bar code data to the app I wrote for him.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the past I recommended to clients who needed bar code scanning to
> > use the 'wedge' approach as to the app the scanned code looked like
> > it was coming from the keyboard, so no additional development or
> > testing was required on my part. Just click into the appropriate
> > text box and walla! The code would appear there.
> >
> >
> >
> > He's looking to me to recommend a scanner.  Most of them now are
> > straight USB, many Bluetooth.  What I don't know is, when you are
> > using a scanner plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data
> > go?  I think I  could probably figure this out if I had the scanner
> > here and some of his bar codes.  But maybe that would be
> > unnecessary.
> >
> >
> >
> > So when plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go? 
> > Does the app have to poll the port for data?
> >
> >
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> >
> > Beach Access Software
> >
> > 760-683-5777
> >
> > www.bchacc.com<http://www.bchacc.com>
> >
> > www.e-z-mrp.com<http://www.e-z-mrp.com>
> >
> > Skype: rocky.smolin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:32 AM
> > To: Rocky Smolin
> > Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> >
> >
> > Can you point me to the one I need to purchase?  Does it come with a
> > dongle for the Bluetooth?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 6:55 PM
> > To: Mark Carey <m.carey at imcfab.com>
> > Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> >
> >
> > That one may not work for you Mark.  It's for
> > POS/Android/IOS/Imac/Ipad. You need something that's Windows
> > compatible.  The specs say
> >
> >
> >
> > "It also can work with PC. If you don't know how connect with your
> > PC, please contact seller for driver which can help you connect
> > scanner with your PC easyly."  So that might not be so
> > straightforward.
> >
> >
> >
> > There's another one on the page
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-
> > Handheld-Automatic/dp/B006
> > LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8
> > <https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-
> > Handheld-Automatic/dp/B00
> > 6LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-
> > spons&keywords=keybo
> > ard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1>
> > &qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keyboard+wedge+
> > barcode+scanner&psc=1
> >
> >
> >
> > which is wired but specifies that it reads the most common bar code
> > types:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Supports a wide range of barcodes types: UPC/EAN, UCC/EAN 128, Code
> > 39, Code 39 Full ASCII, Trioptic Code 39, Code 128, Code 128 Full
> > ASCII, Codabar, Interleaved 2 of 5, Discrete 2 of 5, Code 93, MSI,
> > Code 11, RSS variants, Chinese 2 of 5"
> >
> >
> >
> > And is plug and play with any USB port. Might be a better choice. 
> > If the cable is too short you can get a USB extension cord - male on
> > one end, female on the other.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > R
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:20 PM
> > To: Rocky Smolin
> > Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners
> >
> >
> >
> > I got the one with link below.  $79.00
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%
> > 3Akeyboard+wedge+barcode
> > +scanner
> > <https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%
> > 3Akeyboard+wedge+barcod
> > e+scanner&page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid
> > =151 e+8802 361>
> > &page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802
> > 361> 361
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> >
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Mar  6 09:10:03 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:10:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Developers
In-Reply-To: <5A9DE0FA.9313.ADF2A9A8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1iYCo2GcpYDUte78J1cXoUx2Y092EfaKmVDf+o-2xVVgQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5A9CACA0.2254.A93E2A82@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<795816140.360216350.1520274417736.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5A9DE0FA.9313.ADF2A9A8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1225113208.362778474.1520349003846.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

It sounds like a great package...I will take a look at it. Four and a half stars is as good as anything gets.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 4:29:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Developers

Yep, I've usd Visio and  Dia 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dia-installer/files/latest/download

Dia is my preference.  It does all you need and it's GNU GPL licenced  freeware :)

On 5 Mar 2018 at 11:26, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Did you use any data flow diagramming programs? Did you ever use
> Visio? The current pricing is not too bad. I remember paying $700+ and
> now it looking like a full professional version is about $350 but it
> can be rented for as little as $30 a month. 
> 
> Below is a link to an app that a couple of friends recommended as it
> runs on all platform and it allows the documents to be shared and
> collaborated:
> https://www.edrawsoft.com/linuxdiagram/data-flow-diagram-software-linu
> x.php http://bit.ly/2FnByp4 ...and:
> https://www.yworks.com/products/yed
> 
> I persoanlly have been playing around with LibreOffice Draw, but I am
> not in the business anymore and the price is right:
> https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/draw/
> 
> I could no imagine building or maintaining any significant database
> application without flow charting.
> 
> Aside: I have been working on seeing if I could migrate (re-write) a
> MSAccess application in LibreBase... It is definitely a bit of a
> challenge as there are only "event driven macros" and not as I am use
> to "full VB programming" but the resultant application can be migrated
> to the web... a definite plus and challenge. The BASE uses a ODB
> format similar to MDB, both proprietary but it is easy to export to
> SQL. 
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 6:34:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Developers
> 
> Ah yes, the seminal work on the  Gane and Sarson notation for  Data
> Flow Diagrams. A very widely used Systems Analysis tool in all sorts
> of fields, not just POS system.
> 
> I still use G&S notation DFDs  as a primary design tool :-)
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 4 Mar 2018 at 18:27, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> 
> > For years I specialized in doing development work for point-of-sale
> > (POS) systems and their associated accounting. 
> > 
> > Early on I discovered a book that allowed me to design these
> > systems. It is not a large book (240 pages) but it covered all
> > aspects and logic behind every business that sells to customers. If
> > anyone wants to learn the finer points of how to construct a POS,
> > check out the following book. It was very expensive when I bought
> > first, some thirty-five years ago but the principles haven't changed
> > (Other than real-time account transaction posting has replaced
> > batch-processing...computers were slow then) The price is right:
> > 
> > Structured Systems Analysis: Tools and Techniques
> > https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Systems-Analysis-Techniques-databo
> > ok s/dp/0930196007 http://amzn.to/2FRUXw6
> > 
> > Jim
> > -- 
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> 
> 
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Mar 16 17:48:55 2018
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 22:48:55 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Access Version Comparison Matrix
Message-ID: <CY4PR1101MB2085008968B2B9FDCE40740ED8D70@CY4PR1101MB2085.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

FYI:
FMS has created a new resource that provides an overview of the major features and differences between Microsoft Access versions since its debut in 1992. Our comparison matrix shows the changes from Access 1.0 to 2016.


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Mar 25 22:00:46 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 20:00:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
Message-ID: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Mar 25 22:13:50 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 20:13:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-OT] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <01c801d3c4b0$76860860$63921920$@bchacc.com>

Oops.  Of course that's FMS not FMD (do'h!)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-OT [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [dba-OT] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Mar 26 01:32:16 2018
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:32:16 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
Message-ID: <VI1PR1001MB11357296478989E89F73DECACAAD0@VI1PR1001MB1135.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi Rocky

There is a trial - or I would call it a demo version - which might be useful.
It not, Luke offers a 30-day money back guarantee.

That said, I've never used any of the tools.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky Smolin
Sendt: 26. marts 2018 05:01
Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 'Off Topic' <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists: 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters. 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something that may or may not work.

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had experience with Total Access Components.  

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your experience was. 

MTIA 

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
760-683-5777
 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com
 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com
Skype: rocky.smolin 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar 26 08:43:26 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:43:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR1001MB11357296478989E89F73DECACAAD0@VI1PR1001MB1135.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <VI1PR1001MB11357296478989E89F73DECACAAD0@VI1PR1001MB1135.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <01e501d3c508$6ad99150$408cb3f0$@bchacc.com>

That sounds good.  Who is Luke?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Hi Rocky

There is a trial - or I would call it a demo version - which might be
useful.
It not, Luke offers a 30-day money back guarantee.

That said, I've never used any of the tools.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky
Smolin
Sendt: 26. marts 2018 05:01
Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 'Off Topic' <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists: 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters. 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components.  

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was. 

MTIA 

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
760-683-5777
 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com
 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com
Skype: rocky.smolin 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Mar 26 08:51:59 2018
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:51:59 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
Message-ID: <HE1PR1001MB11297C0AB10844381D09C60DCAAD0@HE1PR1001MB1129.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi Rocky

That's Luke Chung, the owner:

http://www.fmsinc.com/AboutUs/fms-story.html

I have never met him, but he is quite active in the Access milieu and likes to speak at meetings and so on, for example:

    http://www.donkarl.com/devcon/index.htm

/gustav 

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky Smolin
Sendt: 26. marts 2018 15:43
Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

That sounds good.  Who is Luke?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Hi Rocky

There is a trial - or I would call it a demo version - which might be useful.
It not, Luke offers a 30-day money back guarantee.

That said, I've never used any of the tools.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky Smolin
Sendt: 26. marts 2018 05:01
Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 'Off Topic' <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists: 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters. 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something that may or may not work.

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had experience with Total Access Components.  

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your experience was. 

MTIA 

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
760-683-5777
 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com
 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com
Skype: rocky.smolin 


From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Mon Mar 26 09:08:31 2018
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:08:31 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR1001MB11297C0AB10844381D09C60DCAAD0@HE1PR1001MB1129.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <HE1PR1001MB11297C0AB10844381D09C60DCAAD0@HE1PR1001MB1129.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A75E01@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>

He was involved with MS years ago when I did some work with the office team. Was highly respected back then. Been around a long time.

Martin
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Gustav Brock<mailto:gustav at cactus.dk>
Sent: ?26/?03/?2018 14:56
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Hi Rocky

That's Luke Chung, the owner:

http://www.fmsinc.com/AboutUs/fms-story.html

I have never met him, but he is quite active in the Access milieu and likes to speak at meetings and so on, for example:

    http://www.donkarl.com/devcon/index.htm

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky Smolin
Sendt: 26. marts 2018 15:43
Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

That sounds good.  Who is Luke?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Hi Rocky

There is a trial - or I would call it a demo version - which might be useful.
It not, Luke offers a 30-day money back guarantee.

That said, I've never used any of the tools.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky Smolin
Sendt: 26. marts 2018 05:01
Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 'Off Topic' <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something that may or may not work.

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had experience with Total Access Components.

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your experience was.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
760-683-5777
 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com<http://www.bchacc.com>
 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com<http://www.e-z-mrp.com>
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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Mon Mar 26 09:59:03 2018
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:59:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar 26 10:45:40 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 08:45:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
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Thanks. Will forward


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Hi Rocky

That's Luke Chung, the owner:

http://www.fmsinc.com/AboutUs/fms-story.html

I have never met him, but he is quite active in the Access milieu and likes
to speak at meetings and so on, for example:

    http://www.donkarl.com/devcon/index.htm

/gustav 

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Sendt: 26. marts 2018 15:43
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Emne: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

That sounds good.  Who is Luke?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Hi Rocky

There is a trial - or I would call it a demo version - which might be
useful.
It not, Luke offers a 30-day money back guarantee.

That said, I've never used any of the tools.

/gustav

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Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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Emne: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists: 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters. 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components.  

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was. 

MTIA 

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
760-683-5777
 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com
 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com
Skype: rocky.smolin 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar 26 10:56:38 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 08:56:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>
	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>
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Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Mon Mar 26 11:49:48 2018
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 12:49:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>
	<020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>
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 I meant the ADH code.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar 26 12:49:55 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:49:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
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References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>	<020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>
	<055a01d3c522$74235970$5c6a0c50$@verizon.net>
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Oh, it fails on very hi-res screens.  Like a 36"

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I meant the ADH code.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar 26 13:00:07 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:00:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <022501d3c52a$da2480c0$8e6d8240$@bchacc.com>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>	<020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>	<055a01d3c522$74235970$5c6a0c50$@verizon.net>
	<022501d3c52a$da2480c0$8e6d8240$@bchacc.com>
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That was one app.  The other app using the adh code had problems with
complex forms like sub-forms and option frames on Tab pages. IIRC

r

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Oh, it fails on very hi-res screens.  Like a 36"

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I meant the ADH code.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Mon Mar 26 14:08:51 2018
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:08:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <022601d3c52c$46865d00$d3931700$@bchacc.com>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>	<020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>	<055a01d3c522$74235970$5c6a0c50$@verizon.net>	<022501d3c52a$da2480c0$8e6d8240$@bchacc.com>
	<022601d3c52c$46865d00$d3931700$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <05cf01d3c535$e0f24a30$a2d6de90$@verizon.net>


 OK.   That's different and would probably take some effort to correct.  The
ADH code was never 100% and given that it was written so long ago, it's not
surprising that it would need tweaks now.

Jim.

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From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

That was one app.  The other app using the adh code had problems with
complex forms like sub-forms and option frames on Tab pages. IIRC

r

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Oh, it fails on very hi-res screens.  Like a 36"

R


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From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I meant the ADH code.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Mon Mar 26 14:08:51 2018
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:08:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <022501d3c52a$da2480c0$8e6d8240$@bchacc.com>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>	<020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>	<055a01d3c522$74235970$5c6a0c50$@verizon.net>
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 That could probably be taken care of easily enough....just a matter of
making sure it can handle the numbers.  At a guess, some of the data types
can't handle the increased resolution.

 Something to explore at least anyway.

Jim.



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From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Oh, it fails on very hi-res screens.  Like a 36"

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I meant the ADH code.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar 26 17:13:29 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:13:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <05d301d3c535$e2573160$a7059420$@verizon.net>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>	<020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>	<055a01d3c522$74235970$5c6a0c50$@verizon.net>	<022501d3c52a$da2480c0$8e6d8240$@bchacc.com>
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True dat.  Maybe I'll suggest that.  Although without the screen to test it
on, it's problematical.

r

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Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 That could probably be taken care of easily enough....just a matter of
making sure it can handle the numbers.  At a guess, some of the data types
can't handle the increased resolution.

 Something to explore at least anyway.

Jim.



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Oh, it fails on very hi-res screens.  Like a 36"

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I meant the ADH code.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar 26 18:52:28 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:52:28 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <022501d3c52a$da2480c0$8e6d8240$@bchacc.com>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>
	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>
	<020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>
	<055a01d3c522$74235970$5c6a0c50$@verizon.net>
	<022501d3c52a$da2480c0$8e6d8240$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <1716762149.426221732.1522108348028.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Maybe the failure is less on Access and FMD code and something to do with the underlying software. Have you tested this situation on other applications?

Example: http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-3107203/display-apps-full-screen-windows.html
http://bit.ly/2I8Basn

...or <Alt-Enter> or F11?

Jim

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:49:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Oh, it fails on very hi-res screens.  Like a 36"

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I meant the ADH code.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar 26 19:11:20 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:11:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <1716762149.426221732.1522108348028.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>	<020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>	<055a01d3c522$74235970$5c6a0c50$@verizon.net>	<022501d3c52a$da2480c0$8e6d8240$@bchacc.com>
	<1716762149.426221732.1522108348028.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <02a301d3c560$227d0fb0$67772f10$@bchacc.com>

Unfortunately this is not a Universal App, but an old Access app reaching
the end of its useful life.  The company that acquired it from me has a
project to move the back end to SQL and MySQL and the front end to C#.  But
I think it will take a while to recreate my whole manufacturing system so
I'd like to find a solution to this resizing problem for the interim.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Maybe the failure is less on Access and FMD code and something to do with
the underlying software. Have you tested this situation on other
applications?

Example:
http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-3107203/display-apps-full-screen-windows.
html
http://bit.ly/2I8Basn

...or <Alt-Enter> or F11?

Jim

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:49:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Oh, it fails on very hi-res screens.  Like a 36"

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I meant the ADH code.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar 26 19:23:46 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:23:46 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer
In-Reply-To: <02a301d3c560$227d0fb0$67772f10$@bchacc.com>
References: <01ae01d3c4ae$a3c337f0$eb49a7d0$@bchacc.com>
	<051001d3c512$fb624140$f226c3c0$@verizon.net>
	<020c01d3c51b$06bfac50$143f04f0$@bchacc.com>
	<055a01d3c522$74235970$5c6a0c50$@verizon.net>
	<022501d3c52a$da2480c0$8e6d8240$@bchacc.com>
	<1716762149.426221732.1522108348028.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<02a301d3c560$227d0fb0$67772f10$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <28753453.426298760.1522110226088.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

I think I did post an experience I had with a new OS...that I could drag a object from a laptop size screen to a connected 4K screen and see not drop in resolution. The app did not have to adapt but the core screen management code handled everything.

Jim

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 5:11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Unfortunately this is not a Universal App, but an old Access app reaching
the end of its useful life.  The company that acquired it from me has a
project to move the back end to SQL and MySQL and the front end to C#.  But
I think it will take a while to recreate my whole manufacturing system so
I'd like to find a solution to this resizing problem for the interim.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Maybe the failure is less on Access and FMD code and something to do with
the underlying software. Have you tested this situation on other
applications?

Example:
http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-3107203/display-apps-full-screen-windows.
html
http://bit.ly/2I8Basn

...or  or F11?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:49:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Oh, it fails on very hi-res screens.  Like a 36"

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I meant the ADH code.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Well I was using 2010 when I tried it out for them.  The code is open but
tracing the problem was going to be a lot of work and there was no money in
it for me to do that.  But he should have responded with a solution but he
didn't.  One of my clients send him a nice email asking if he would take a
look at the database but Peters never responded.

O I really don't know why it'[s failing.

r


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer


 I'm curious where the code falls flat with A2013 and 2016.

 Also, in regards to resizing, many don't look at the features that are now
built-in.    Mostly that deals with anchoring, but many overlook these
settings.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] FMD Screen Resizer

Dear Lists:

 

I have two former clients who are finding that the old ADH Form Resizer code
is not doing the job as Access advances into 2013 and 2016. I tried to
evaluate Peters Shrinker/Stretcher and it failed on both applications.  I
tried to get support from Peters but failed.  One of my clients wrote to
Peters asking for help and offering to send their application to Peters.
After 2 weeks+, he has not received a reply from Peters.

 

I told him his next move would be to evaluate the screen resizing features
of FMS' Total Access Components 2010.  And he should check out the free demo
which will probably not have enough capability to prove that it will work
with his app. But then he might write them a letter telling them that he got
burned by Peters and so is a bit gun shy about spending $200 for something
that may or may not work.

 

Meantime I said I would write my forums (fora?) to see if anyone has had
experience with Total Access Components. 

 

Please let me know if you have used the form resizer and what your
experience was.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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