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<DIV><SPAN class=702564619-11042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
for that tidbit, Charles. I guess I'm just looking to be identified as a
senior technical guy, but not a manager. I already work for management
types who create my project schedules that couldn't create a form with one table
using the Access wizard! <bg> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Wortz, Charles
[mailto:CWortz@tea.state.tx.us]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 11, 2003 3:30
PM<BR><B>To:</B> accessd@databaseadvisors.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [AccessD]
OT: Accelerated Masters Programs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=094192419-11042003><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2>Randy,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=094192419-11042003><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=094192419-11042003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Now that you
state your intention is to work toward senior management, I can state that an
MBA is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that goal. Also,
experience int the operations side of an organization always helps. With
your 10+ years on the technical side with an MIS, you should consider the
information intensive industries as your target organizations since that gives
you 10 years experience in the operational side already.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT color=#0000ff>Charles Wortz</FONT></B></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>Software Development
Division</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>Texas
Education Agency</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>1701
N. Congress Ave</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>Austin,
TX 78701-1494</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
color=#0000ff>512-463-9493</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
color=#0000ff>CWortz@tea.state.tx.us</FONT></SPAN> </P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Randall Anthony
[mailto:ranthony@wrsystems.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday 2003 Apr 11
14:18<BR><B>To:</B> 'accessd@databaseadvisors.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs<BR><B>Importance:</B>
Low<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=987431319-11042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite a bit now.
That's exactly what my intent was, but it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to
in the tech side is saying ROI is nil. The minute someone sees MBA or MM
it's "oh, this guys on the management track, we want somebody
technical". With my MIS degree, I pretty much do the translator/referee
thing quite a bit. Right now it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs
and experience in those cert skills, you don't need more education".
Thanks again for your advice.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Hale, Jim
[mailto:jim.hale@fleetpride.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'accessd@databaseadvisors.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the
technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and
eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge
and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a
decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that
matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you
in the right direction. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator"
and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth
technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to
indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW,
Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job
description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I
earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before
switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely
more fun). Good luck!</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Jim Hale</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
Wortz, Charles [<A
href="mailto:CWortz@tea.state.tx.us">mailto:CWortz@tea.state.tx.us</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>To: accessd@databaseadvisors.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: RE:
[AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Randy,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but
it probably</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>will not help you if you want to stay on
the technical side of the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>business. With 10+
years experience your resume and your good</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>references should get you an interview with any place worth
working.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>All your references will say you walk on
water, won't they? <grin></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Charles Wortz</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Software Development
Division</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Texas Education Agency</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>1701 N. Congress Ave</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Austin, TX
78701-1494</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>512-463-9493</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>CWortz@tea.state.tx.us</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
Randall Anthony [<A
href="mailto:ranthony@wrsystems.com">mailto:ranthony@wrsystems.com</A>]
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>To: accessd@databaseadvisors.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject:
[AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions.
I'm looking into an</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>accelerated Master's degree from
Cambridge College (I'm also looking</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>into Univ of
Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i,
Java, .net, OOP,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>XML, HTML, et al. Has any one
gone through this? Better yet, any of</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>the mgt
types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly
doing</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your
opinions are definitely</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>wanted. Thanks!</FONT>
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