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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That's interesting Stephen, because
my advice here (Australia) has been that by default ownership rests with the
developer, so I don't supply the FE mdb in every case. It is a case by case
situation for me.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Kath</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=stephen@bondsoftware.co.nz
href="mailto:stephen@bondsoftware.co.nz">Stephen Bond</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=accessd@databaseadvisors.com
href="mailto:accessd@databaseadvisors.com">accessd@databaseadvisors.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:39
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [AccessD] Secured vs.
Unsecured FEs</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the
beginning of a contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless
asserted at the start of the contract, so I do.<BR><BR>Your
thoughts<BR><BR>Stephen Bond<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman@bellsouth.net]<BR>Sent: Thursday, 17 April
2003 11:15 a.m.<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:accessd@databaseadvisors.com">accessd@databaseadvisors.com</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs<BR><BR><BR>...I give it to the owners
or IT Admin with lots of words about NO ONE<BR>needing to use it unless I die
or he decides to use another contractor.<BR><BR>William Hindman<BR>"All it
takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."
Edmund<BR>Burke<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Stephen Bond"
<<A
href="mailto:stephen@bondsoftware.co.nz">stephen@bondsoftware.co.nz</A>><BR>To:
<<A
href="mailto:accessd@databaseadvisors.com">accessd@databaseadvisors.com</A>><BR>Sent:
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:09 PM<BR>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs.
Unsecured FEs<BR><BR><BR>> Thanks William ... I needed that, an infusion of
backbone ... my wife<BR>tells me I am too soft, "you're a professional, act
like one!".<BR>><BR>> I like the idea of a separate cd with security
different from that of the<BR>mde. Are the users who require this savvy
users?<BR>><BR>> Stephen Bond<BR>><BR>><BR>>
-----Original Message-----<BR>> From: William Hindman
[mailto:wdhindman@bellsouth.net]<BR>> Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2003 10:46
a.m.<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:accessd@databaseadvisors.com">accessd@databaseadvisors.com</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs<BR>><BR>><BR>>
...always, always, always as an mde ...a secured mde if data security
is<BR>> required ...even if the contract requires I supply source code, I
do that<BR>on<BR>> a separate cd with security different from that of the
mde, never<BR>installed<BR>> ...in addition, I've shifted to using runtime
installs whenever possible<BR>and<BR>> always include a clause that makes
user induced problems correctable at my<BR>> full hourly
rate.<BR>><BR>> ...sometimes its just not feasible to block all user
access ...in which<BR>case<BR>> I go to extremes to document the status of
the master mdb each time I<BR>leave,<BR>> usually copying it to an
encrypted directory with only me having access.<BR>><BR>> ...users will
lie through their teeth when confronted with having screwed<BR>> with a
critical app ...and if you have not protected yourself, they'll<BR>>
readily destroy your credibility with the client ...fortunately,
clients<BR>> rarely need a second demonstration of user
culpability.<BR>><BR>> William Hindman<BR>> "All it takes for evil to
prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund<BR>> Burke<BR>><BR>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Stephen Bond" <<A
href="mailto:stephen@bondsoftware.co.nz">stephen@bondsoftware.co.nz</A>><BR>>
To: <<A
href="mailto:accessd@databaseadvisors.com">accessd@databaseadvisors.com</A>><BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:04 PM<BR>> Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs.
Unsecured FEs<BR>><BR>><BR>> > How many independent contractors in
the group<BR>> > provide the Access FE to their customers<BR>> >
either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so<BR>> > (a)
changes can't be made, and,<BR>> > (b) the VBA is password
protected?<BR>> ><BR>> > I have my reasons for doing so,<BR>>
> (fixing some amateur's efforts to<BR>> > add an enhancement;
protecting<BR>> > my not small investment in<BR>> >
training and upskilling; these two<BR>> > will do to
start)<BR>> ><BR>> > and of course there are arguments
against.<BR>> ><BR>> > Can I have some input please. Both
sides<BR>> > of the argument are welcome.<BR>> ><BR>> >
TIA<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Stephen Bond<BR>> >
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