<DIV>I will use the fact that you CANNOT programatically do as a reason for people being restricted from the dB window.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Tortise@Paradise" <tortise@paradise.net.nz></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What did you do, if I may ask???</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=accessd@databaseadvisors.com href="mailto:accessd@databaseadvisors.com">Access Developers discussion and problem solving</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:35 PM</DIV>
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<DIV>I really like the idea of the tabbed form that looks like the dB window. However, I like the fact that you can't do it even more which will actually be support for my argument of reason's why they shouldn't be allowed to go directly into the database window.</DIV>
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<DIV>Even though I was not presented with a way of doing what the boss wanted, I actually got the information I was looking for. </DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks everyone for your replies.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Porter, Mark" <MPorter@acsalaska.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=654245121-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It's more than a discussion, there is actually a form in the ADH97 source code disk.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=654245121-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I've used it with runtime installations for users who were used to the DB window. They couldn't tell the difference for their purposes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=654245121-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=000282421-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Not that I know of.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=000282421-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>A possible work around off the top of my head (if no one else can tell you how to do it directly):</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000282421-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In the ADH there's a discussion of presenting a tabbed form that looks exactly like the access database object container.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=000282421-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You could recreate that form,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000282421-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>hide the DB window (set the bypass key to false so they couldn't use that)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000282421-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>set the double click event of the table view list to record: the item being opened, the count of the times opened, and then open the actual table in datasheet view.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=000282421-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>HTH</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000282421-29072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>John B.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Believe me, I know all this. You are preaching to the choir. This is a small company that has their own way of doing things. I've had this argument for over a year now and haven't won. If they pay me to do it, I do it.</DIV>
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<DIV>So, back to my question, is there a method of tracking how many times a user invokes an object from the database window. </DIV>
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<DIV>I assume the answer may be no since I can't seem to get an answer.<BR><BR><B><I>William Hindman <wdhindman@bellsouth.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>...so build him a continuous records form that looks like the table's database window but isn't ...with him in the real table your rectum is exposed big-time, not his ...and with the form approach, you not only can limit the damage he can do but the access count becomes much easier to provide.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>William Hindman<BR>...It's a proven fact that if you smoke a pack of cigarettes a day for 90 years, you'll live to a ripe old age. :)))</DIV>
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<DIV>I am 1000 percent in agreement with you. However, I have a CFO who literally signs the checks and demands direct access to a certain table for him and a couple of others, but wants to know how many times they get into it.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Wortz, Charles" <<A href="mailto:CWortz@tea.state.tx.us">CWortz@tea.state.tx.us</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=241124019-29072003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Lonnie,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=241124019-29072003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>IMHO the database window should only be available in Design mode. Letting the users get at the database window is a serious mistake that you will regret ever making.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=241124019-29072003></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT color=#0000ff>Charles Wortz</FONT></B></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>Software Development Division</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>Texas Education Agency</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>1701 N. Congress Ave</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>Austin, TX 78701-1494</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>512-463-9493</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT color=#0000ff>CWortz@tea.state.tx.us</FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg@yahoo.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday 2003 Jul 29 14:32<BR><B>To:</B> Access Developers discussion and problem solving<BR><B>Subject:</B> [AccessD] Count the times a table is opened<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Is there a way to record when a table (or any object) is opened from the database window?</DIV><BR><BR>
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