From listmaster at databaseadvisors.com Mon Oct 15 13:48:30 2018 From: listmaster at databaseadvisors.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:48:30 -0400 Subject: [BEU-Support] Administrivia - Database Advisors Funding Drive Message-ID: Dear List(s): The time has come to have a serious talk. About money. Domain names and internet hosting costs real actual money. Which we?re running out of. So we need some. So here?s the deal. We need about $500 to keep Database Advisors running for another year. Less than that for the next few years after that. Keith Williamson, who has been a real brick about taking care of the messy details, has set up a PayPal site where we can contribute dough. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=SGVT87NEVPU9A But what we?re really interested in is your intention to donate some real bread to the cause. After all, there?s no sense in raising $250 when you need $500 and the thing goes down the tubes for lack of a few bucks. Reply to this email and tell us how much you will donate if we decide to pull the trigger. I?ve been a member of DBA before it was DBA ? when it was hosted by Memphis Technologies for free and then one day they decided to pull the plug and suddenly we were all talking to each other through a yahoo group, trying to salvage AccessD. And we did it. DBA is an actual corporation with stock certificates and everything. A bunch of us chipped in and thanks to some tireless work on the part of a few members, DBA was born and AccessD was saved. And they?re still doing it today (Thank you tireless volunteers.} I can?t count the number of times over the last 20 years or so (could it be that long?) AccessD saved my bacon; that I sent in a question at 10:30 at night and woke up in the morning to find that some lister in Germany or Australia had answered my question. And those of us on the OT list have been communing for what? 20 years? Births. Deaths. Weddings. Divorces. Job changes. Happy time. Sad times. It?s a cyber family (most of us have never met each other in person). And we would hate to see that circling the drain. But I digress. Certainly the traffic on the list has diminished as the popularity of Access has waned. But every couple of months they still pull my chestnuts out of the fire. So write back. If we send out a request for money, tell us how much we can count on from you. I think we can get to $500. If we can?t?well I don?t want to think about that. So let us hear from you. If just 10 of you chip in $50 bucks, we?re there! Or 50 of you each putting in a sawbuck. That works too. Or anything in between. OK let?s get it started. I?m good for $50. So we only need $450 more (see how easy that was?) You? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 760-683-5777 www.bchacc.com www.e-z-mrp.com Skype: rocky.smolin From carbonnb at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 07:40:57 2018 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 08:40:57 -0400 Subject: [BEU-Support] Administrivia - UPDATE Database Advisors Funding Drive Message-ID: Dear List(s): The finance committee (formed just now) would like to express their gratitude at the generosity of the members of Database Advisors. Through your pledges (which I trust will become contributions today) you have guaranteed the continuing presence of the Lists, and valued the help and advice we all receive. If you have not pledged or contributed yet, but are one of those people who are susceptible to moral suasion, don?t fight it. The PayPal site will be waiting for you at https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=SGVT87NEVPU9A . For those of you who can?t or won?t use PayPal, you can send a check to me, made out to Rocky Smolin and I will deposit it and make the corresponding contribution at the PayPal site. Send the check to: Rocky Smolin 1014 Tulip Way Carlsbad, California 92011 Again, to each of you who have pledged and/or paid, you have solved in a day what could have been an awkward problem and assured the uninterrupted presence of Database Advisors. Your Finance Committee (all of whom are finding out at this moment that they are on a Finance Committee)(which will teach them not to miss the meetings), Susan, John, Keith, Bryan, and Rocky -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From jbartow at winhaven.net Mon Oct 22 23:47:57 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:47:57 +0000 Subject: [BEU-Support] Administrivia - Thank you! Message-ID: Dear List(s): On behalf of those who administer the Database Advisors lists, I would like to express my appreciation and gratitude for the support and generosity of the members of DBA. In just one week we have had enough money contributed - in excess of $1200 - to fund DBA for three years. I can't say I was totally surprised by this, as the generosity of the list members in contributing their time and knowledge to help others is well known by all of us. But it is gratifying nonetheless. Once again, thanks to all who contributed money, and thanks again to all who contribute their time and knowledge, without which the lists would have no purpose. Best, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 760-683-5777 http://www.bchacc.com http://www.e-z-mrp.com Skype: rocky.smolin From jbartow at winhaven.net Sat Oct 27 15:49:15 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:49:15 +0000 Subject: [BEU-Support] Administrivia - List posting size limits Message-ID: We encourage snipping of posts to that which matters for the post to make sense in order to increase readability, reduce noise and reduce post sizes. Usually the size limit is hit because the email is sent in a format other than plain text. Rich formatted email (MS or HTML) is almost always too large for the limit. We increased the size limit of the lists to 20 KB per post some years ago. 20kb is a _lot_ of plain text. We would certainly allow a post that needed more than that to get through if contacted about it. I think that has happened once in 10 years. We maintain this limit because there are active members who have extremely poor speeds in their part of the world. Unfortunately the rich formatting gets stripped after the limit is determined rather than before or most posts would go right through. There are settings in almost all email systems to set the appropriate DBA list address to use always plain text. I have made numerous posts over the years in regards to how to do it in Outlook. Note: our volunteer moderators are very accommodating in allowing posts through - IF you contact them. Best Regards, John B