From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 12:11:42 2017
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 13:11:42 -0400
Subject: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem
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Our animal care submits some weights in a strange format:

pound;ounce

So, the baby bobcat's weights might resemble 10;7, 14;3, 14;8, and so on.

Parsing them is no problem. But, evaluating and returning poundage in
decimal format is proving a challenge because I'm seeing something weird
along the way. Specifically, regardless of how I concatenate the two
values, I get unexpected results.

I used Column To Text to parse the values using the ; character as the
delimiter. Pounds are in column B, the ounce value is in column C. In
column D, I use the formula:

=C4/16

to convert the ounce value into a decimal value.

Here's where I run into trouble -- I've been unable to concatenate the
pound integer and the results of that formula to return

10.4375

10 is the number of pounds; .4375 is 7 ounces, expressed as a decimal.

It's impossible to put them together!

I first tried

=B4&D4

which returns

100.4375

instead of 10.4375.

I've tried CONCATENATE(). I've tried working with a text value instead of
the results of a formula. I've tried TRIM() and ABS() -- there's something
going on that I clearly don't understand.

There's probably an easier way to get what I need -- forest for the trees.
But I don't understand why concatenating these two values -- whether value
or text -- wants to add a 0 to the integer.

Susan H.

From DJKR at msn.com  Tue Apr 11 12:23:34 2017
From: DJKR at msn.com (DJK Robinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:23:34 +0000
Subject: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem
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	<CA++Sg+fGo2X+pLdexdyE8fmWXyT9gMjVH7Azu+bc1Vh_qjjWrg@mail.gmail.com>
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Just a thought, Susan - how about adding them?   B4 + D4


John

________________________________
From: Dba-office <dba-office-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
Sent: 11 April 2017 17:11
To: dba-office at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem

Our animal care submits some weights in a strange format:

pound;ounce

So, the baby bobcat's weights might resemble 10;7, 14;3, 14;8, and so on.

Parsing them is no problem. But, evaluating and returning poundage in
decimal format is proving a challenge because I'm seeing something weird
along the way. Specifically, regardless of how I concatenate the two
values, I get unexpected results.

I used Column To Text to parse the values using the ; character as the
delimiter. Pounds are in column B, the ounce value is in column C. In
column D, I use the formula:

=C4/16

to convert the ounce value into a decimal value.

Here's where I run into trouble -- I've been unable to concatenate the
pound integer and the results of that formula to return

10.4375

10 is the number of pounds; .4375 is 7 ounces, expressed as a decimal.

It's impossible to put them together!

I first tried

=B4&D4

which returns

100.4375

instead of 10.4375.

I've tried CONCATENATE(). I've tried working with a text value instead of
the results of a formula. I've tried TRIM() and ABS() -- there's something
going on that I clearly don't understand.

There's probably an easier way to get what I need -- forest for the trees.
But I don't understand why concatenating these two values -- whether value
or text -- wants to add a 0 to the integer.

Susan H.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 11 12:41:32 2017
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:41:32 +0000
Subject: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB116524129E66B20CB18C4D7ACA000@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan

How about: 

=B4+C4/16

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Dba-office [mailto:dba-office-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Susan Harkins
Sendt: 11. april 2017 19:12
Til: dba-office at databaseadvisors.com
Emne: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem

Our animal care submits some weights in a strange format:

pound;ounce

So, the baby bobcat's weights might resemble 10;7, 14;3, 14;8, and so on.

Parsing them is no problem. But, evaluating and returning poundage in decimal format is proving a challenge because I'm seeing something weird along the way. Specifically, regardless of how I concatenate the two values, I get unexpected results.

I used Column To Text to parse the values using the ; character as the delimiter. Pounds are in column B, the ounce value is in column C. In column D, I use the formula:

=C4/16

to convert the ounce value into a decimal value.

Here's where I run into trouble -- I've been unable to concatenate the pound integer and the results of that formula to return

10.4375

10 is the number of pounds; .4375 is 7 ounces, expressed as a decimal.

It's impossible to put them together!

I first tried

=B4&D4

which returns

100.4375

instead of 10.4375.

I've tried CONCATENATE(). I've tried working with a text value instead of the results of a formula. I've tried TRIM() and ABS() -- there's something going on that I clearly don't understand.

There's probably an easier way to get what I need -- forest for the trees.
But I don't understand why concatenating these two values -- whether value or text -- wants to add a 0 to the integer.

Susan H. 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 13:09:28 2017
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 14:09:28 -0400
Subject: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem
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Gustav, I'll try it -- I hadn't thought about concatenating the actual
expression. The problem was the internal 0 integer. Formatting the cell to
not display it didn't work, but using TEXT() to omit it did -- but your
expression eliminates the whole concatenating problem -- I was stuck there
only seeing it as concatenation and not simple math. it's always something
simple and sometimes I just don't see it -- thanks for the solution. I
appreciate it.

Susan H.

Susan

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Susan
>
> How about:
>
> =B4+C4/16
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Dba-office [mailto:dba-office-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
> af Susan Harkins
> Sendt: 11. april 2017 19:12
> Til: dba-office at databaseadvisors.com
> Emne: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem
>
> Our animal care submits some weights in a strange format:
>
> pound;ounce
>
> So, the baby bobcat's weights might resemble 10;7, 14;3, 14;8, and so on.
>
> Parsing them is no problem. But, evaluating and returning poundage in
> decimal format is proving a challenge because I'm seeing something weird
> along the way. Specifically, regardless of how I concatenate the two
> values, I get unexpected results.
>
> I used Column To Text to parse the values using the ; character as the
> delimiter. Pounds are in column B, the ounce value is in column C. In
> column D, I use the formula:
>
> =C4/16
>
> to convert the ounce value into a decimal value.
>
> Here's where I run into trouble -- I've been unable to concatenate the
> pound integer and the results of that formula to return
>
> 10.4375
>
> 10 is the number of pounds; .4375 is 7 ounces, expressed as a decimal.
>
> It's impossible to put them together!
>
> I first tried
>
> =B4&D4
>
> which returns
>
> 100.4375
>
> instead of 10.4375.
>
> I've tried CONCATENATE(). I've tried working with a text value instead of
> the results of a formula. I've tried TRIM() and ABS() -- there's something
> going on that I clearly don't understand.
>
> There's probably an easier way to get what I need -- forest for the trees.
> But I don't understand why concatenating these two values -- whether value
> or text -- wants to add a 0 to the integer.
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dba-office mailing list
> Dba-office at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-office
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 13:22:57 2017
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 14:22:57 -0400
Subject: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem
In-Reply-To: <DB5PR08MB06805DBE9C0C0BA2CABE98E1D2000@DB5PR08MB0680.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CA++Sg+duL9NoGsKodPs0JrP3MLDrMrEraVps-fG6rig7u1K6Uw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+fGo2X+pLdexdyE8fmWXyT9gMjVH7Azu+bc1Vh_qjjWrg@mail.gmail.com>
	<DB5PR08MB06805DBE9C0C0BA2CABE98E1D2000@DB5PR08MB0680.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
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That's what I'm doing. I'm so grateful for you folks!

Susan H.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 1:23 PM, DJK Robinson <DJKR at msn.com> wrote:

> Just a thought, Susan - how about adding them?   B4 + D4
>
>
> John
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dba-office <dba-office-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of
> Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> Sent: 11 April 2017 17:11
> To: dba-office at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem
>
> Our animal care submits some weights in a strange format:
>
> pound;ounce
>
> So, the baby bobcat's weights might resemble 10;7, 14;3, 14;8, and so on.
>
> Parsing them is no problem. But, evaluating and returning poundage in
> decimal format is proving a challenge because I'm seeing something weird
> along the way. Specifically, regardless of how I concatenate the two
> values, I get unexpected results.
>
> I used Column To Text to parse the values using the ; character as the
> delimiter. Pounds are in column B, the ounce value is in column C. In
> column D, I use the formula:
>
> =C4/16
>
> to convert the ounce value into a decimal value.
>
> Here's where I run into trouble -- I've been unable to concatenate the
> pound integer and the results of that formula to return
>
> 10.4375
>
> 10 is the number of pounds; .4375 is 7 ounces, expressed as a decimal.
>
> It's impossible to put them together!
>
> I first tried
>
> =B4&D4
>
> which returns
>
> 100.4375
>
> instead of 10.4375.
>
> I've tried CONCATENATE(). I've tried working with a text value instead of
> the results of a formula. I've tried TRIM() and ABS() -- there's something
> going on that I clearly don't understand.
>
> There's probably an easier way to get what I need -- forest for the trees.
> But I don't understand why concatenating these two values -- whether value
> or text -- wants to add a 0 to the integer.
>
> Susan H.
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 11 14:48:45 2017
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 05:48:45 +1000
Subject: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem
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References: <CA++Sg+duL9NoGsKodPs0JrP3MLDrMrEraVps-fG6rig7u1K6Uw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CA++Sg+fGo2X+pLdexdyE8fmWXyT9gMjVH7Azu+bc1Vh_qjjWrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <58ED331D.23157.5BEB1315@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Others have pointed out, Contcatenate and & add strings together, not the value of the 
strings. You need to use + instead end up with the sum of the two parts.

That said, you can do it all without in a single step without having to go through  Text To 
Column:

=LEFT(A1,FIND(";",A1)-1)+MID(A1,FIND(";",A1)+1,3)/16


On 11 Apr 2017 at 13:11, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Our animal care submits some weights in a strange format:
> 
> pound;ounce
> 
> So, the baby bobcat's weights might resemble 10;7, 14;3, 14;8, and so
> on.
> 
> Parsing them is no problem. But, evaluating and returning poundage in
> decimal format is proving a challenge because I'm seeing something
> weird along the way. Specifically, regardless of how I concatenate the
> two values, I get unexpected results.
> 
> I used Column To Text to parse the values using the ; character as the
> delimiter. Pounds are in column B, the ounce value is in column C. In
> column D, I use the formula:
> 
> =C4/16
> 
> to convert the ounce value into a decimal value.
> 
> Here's where I run into trouble -- I've been unable to concatenate the
> pound integer and the results of that formula to return
> 
> 10.4375
> 
> 10 is the number of pounds; .4375 is 7 ounces, expressed as a decimal.
> 
> It's impossible to put them together!
> 
> I first tried
> 
> =B4&D4
> 
> which returns
> 
> 100.4375
> 
> instead of 10.4375.
> 
> I've tried CONCATENATE(). I've tried working with a text value instead
> of the results of a formula. I've tried TRIM() and ABS() -- there's
> something going on that I clearly don't understand.
> 
> There's probably an easier way to get what I need -- forest for the
> trees. But I don't understand why concatenating these two values --
> whether value or text -- wants to add a 0 to the integer.
> 
> Susan H.
> _______________________________________________
> Dba-office mailing list
> Dba-office at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-office
> 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 14:59:57 2017
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 15:59:57 -0400
Subject: [Dba-office] Fwd: Interesting Excel problem
In-Reply-To: <58ED331D.23157.5BEB1315@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CA++Sg+duL9NoGsKodPs0JrP3MLDrMrEraVps-fG6rig7u1K6Uw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+fGo2X+pLdexdyE8fmWXyT9gMjVH7Azu+bc1Vh_qjjWrg@mail.gmail.com>
	<58ED331D.23157.5BEB1315@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+c+rgvTSCCR9OtDSLY3USY+W_U0yvbJ3=4DdRvPFF--Cw@mail.gmail.com>

Now you're just showing off. :) Thank you Stuart -- I might actually write
this up.

Susan H.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> Others have pointed out, Contcatenate and & add strings together, not the
> value of the
> strings. You need to use + instead end up with the sum of the two parts.
>
> That said, you can do it all without in a single step without having to go
> through  Text To
> Column:
>
> =LEFT(A1,FIND(";",A1)-1)+MID(A1,FIND(";",A1)+1,3)/16
>
>
> On 11 Apr 2017 at 13:11, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > Our animal care submits some weights in a strange format:
> >
> > pound;ounce
> >
> > So, the baby bobcat's weights might resemble 10;7, 14;3, 14;8, and so
> > on.
> >
> > Parsing them is no problem. But, evaluating and returning poundage in
> > decimal format is proving a challenge because I'm seeing something
> > weird along the way. Specifically, regardless of how I concatenate the
> > two values, I get unexpected results.
> >
> > I used Column To Text to parse the values using the ; character as the
> > delimiter. Pounds are in column B, the ounce value is in column C. In
> > column D, I use the formula:
> >
> > =C4/16
> >
> > to convert the ounce value into a decimal value.
> >
> > Here's where I run into trouble -- I've been unable to concatenate the
> > pound integer and the results of that formula to return
> >
> > 10.4375
> >
> > 10 is the number of pounds; .4375 is 7 ounces, expressed as a decimal.
> >
> > It's impossible to put them together!
> >
> > I first tried
> >
> > =B4&D4
> >
> > which returns
> >
> > 100.4375
> >
> > instead of 10.4375.
> >
> > I've tried CONCATENATE(). I've tried working with a text value instead
> > of the results of a formula. I've tried TRIM() and ABS() -- there's
> > something going on that I clearly don't understand.
> >
> > There's probably an easier way to get what I need -- forest for the
> > trees. But I don't understand why concatenating these two values --
> > whether value or text -- wants to add a 0 to the integer.
> >
> > Susan H.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dba-office mailing list
> > Dba-office at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-office
> >
>
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