From subs at solution-providers.ie  Tue Jul  1 02:25:12 2003
From: subs at solution-providers.ie (Mark L. Breen)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:25:12 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]CoInitialize has not Been Called
References: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05B2613D@GUARDIAN_5>
Message-ID: <00bb01c33fa8$420eaee0$c86da8c0@D8TZHN0J>

Hello Karen,

I hav experienced this also, I think that a SP for SQL fixes it, but I am
not sure, when you find out, would you let me know?

Thanks

Mark



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From: "Nicholson, Karen" <knicholson at gpsx.net>
To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]CoInitialize has not Been Called


> Does anyone know what this annoyance refers to?  It seems to happen quite
> often when I have SQL server opened, open up Crystal Reports 7.0 to run
some
> reports, and then return to SQL to do more work.  Thanks.
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From Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com  Tue Jul  1 09:29:18 2003
From: Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com (Djabarov, Robert)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:29:18 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous
Message-ID: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D202DAC096@ex02.eagle.usaa.com>

Check out SaveSetting/GetSetting in VB/VBA BOL.

Robert Djabarov
Senior SQL Server DBA
USAA IT/DBMS
? (210) 913-3148 - phone
? (210) 753-3148 - pager


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Emerson [mailto:davide at dalyn.co.nz] 
Sent:	Monday, June 30, 2003 11:47 PM
To:	dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject:	[dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous

I have an AXP ADP FE which is on several users computers.  It is connected 
to an SQL2000 BE.

I used a full copy of Access to make the initial connection with the 
database.  However the users have various user names that they log in 
as.  Currently when they start up the runtime version it asks for the user 
and password for the SQL database.  The user defaults to the user that I 
logged on as to make the initial connection.

The users want it changed so that when the box appears asking for the user 
and password, that the same user as they previously logged on as is in the 
user field and they only need to enter the password (it worked in Access 97 
so they want the same thing now).

Each user does not have a full copy of access so that they can set up their 
connections.  I also don't want to have to make individual copies of the FE 
and connect then for each user.

Is there some way for Access/SQL to remember the last user that logged on 
and use this for logging on?  I can extract the current user from the 
CurrentProject.Connection.ConnectionString property but where do I go from 
here?

Regards

David Emerson
DALYN Software Ltd
25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205 

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From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Jul  1 19:27:44 2003
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 12:27:44 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous
In-Reply-To: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D202DAC096@ex02.eagle.usaa.c
 om>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030702122427.00b84ea8@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

This takes me to the MSDN website.  It seems that the solution is to make 
changes to the registry settings.  Is this correct?

I am not sure if this is the correct solution as the user name must be 
stored in the actual FE itself (and not on the computer - otherwise the 
user that was used to link initially to the BE wouldn't appear on another 
computer that the FE has been copied to.)

Can anyone else help me out or explain further?

David

At 1/07/2003, you wrote:
>Check out SaveSetting/GetSetting in VB/VBA BOL.
>
>Robert Djabarov
>Senior SQL Server DBA
>USAA IT/DBMS
>? (210) 913-3148 - phone
>? (210) 753-3148 - pager
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>From:   David Emerson [mailto:davide at dalyn.co.nz]
>Sent:   Monday, June 30, 2003 11:47 PM
>To:     dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject:        [dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous
>
>I have an AXP ADP FE which is on several users computers.  It is connected
>to an SQL2000 BE.
>
>I used a full copy of Access to make the initial connection with the
>database.  However the users have various user names that they log in
>as.  Currently when they start up the runtime version it asks for the user
>and password for the SQL database.  The user defaults to the user that I
>logged on as to make the initial connection.
>
>The users want it changed so that when the box appears asking for the user
>and password, that the same user as they previously logged on as is in the
>user field and they only need to enter the password (it worked in Access 97
>so they want the same thing now).
>
>Each user does not have a full copy of access so that they can set up their
>connections.  I also don't want to have to make individual copies of the FE
>and connect then for each user.
>
>Is there some way for Access/SQL to remember the last user that logged on
>and use this for logging on?  I can extract the current user from the
>CurrentProject.Connection.ConnectionString property but where do I go from
>here?
>
>Regards
>
>David Emerson
>DALYN Software Ltd
>25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
>Wellington, New Zealand
>Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205
>
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From Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com  Wed Jul  2 13:38:02 2003
From: Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com (Djabarov, Robert)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:38:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous
Message-ID: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D24EBC2B@ex02.eagle.usaa.com>

Copying FE from one PC to another does not copy registry values affected by SaveSetting/GetSetting.  The first time your program is executed the user will have to enter his/her ID.  The next time the value from the registry is retrieved via GetSetting.  If a different user is logged on to the same PC for the first time, - the story is repeated all over.  Of course it is possible to keep this information on the database server, but then the actual connection has to be made using hard-coded credentials that must never change.  This makes your app more rigid to distribution and more demanding for recovery purposes.

Robert Djabarov
Senior SQL Server DBA
USAA IT/DBMS
? (210) 913-3148 - phone
? (210) 753-3148 - pager


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Emerson [mailto:davide at dalyn.co.nz] 
Sent:	Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:28 PM
To:	dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject:	RE: [dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous

This takes me to the MSDN website.  It seems that the solution is to make 
changes to the registry settings.  Is this correct?

I am not sure if this is the correct solution as the user name must be 
stored in the actual FE itself (and not on the computer - otherwise the 
user that was used to link initially to the BE wouldn't appear on another 
computer that the FE has been copied to.)

Can anyone else help me out or explain further?

David

At 1/07/2003, you wrote:
>Check out SaveSetting/GetSetting in VB/VBA BOL.
>
>Robert Djabarov
>Senior SQL Server DBA
>USAA IT/DBMS
>? (210) 913-3148 - phone
>? (210) 753-3148 - pager
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>From:   David Emerson [mailto:davide at dalyn.co.nz]
>Sent:   Monday, June 30, 2003 11:47 PM
>To:     dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject:        [dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous
>
>I have an AXP ADP FE which is on several users computers.  It is connected
>to an SQL2000 BE.
>
>I used a full copy of Access to make the initial connection with the
>database.  However the users have various user names that they log in
>as.  Currently when they start up the runtime version it asks for the user
>and password for the SQL database.  The user defaults to the user that I
>logged on as to make the initial connection.
>
>The users want it changed so that when the box appears asking for the user
>and password, that the same user as they previously logged on as is in the
>user field and they only need to enter the password (it worked in Access 97
>so they want the same thing now).
>
>Each user does not have a full copy of access so that they can set up their
>connections.  I also don't want to have to make individual copies of the FE
>and connect then for each user.
>
>Is there some way for Access/SQL to remember the last user that logged on
>and use this for logging on?  I can extract the current user from the
>CurrentProject.Connection.ConnectionString property but where do I go from
>here?
>
>Regards
>
>David Emerson
>DALYN Software Ltd
>25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
>Wellington, New Zealand
>Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
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From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Jul  2 14:03:51 2003
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 07:03:51 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous
In-Reply-To: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D24EBC2B@ex02.eagle.usaa.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030703065712.00b1e430@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks for your help but I am still a bit unclear.

After making the initial connection to the server on one computer I copy 
the FE to other computers.  When the FE is opened on the other computers 
the logon (which is an SQL logon, not Access XP) shows the original user 
that was used to connect to the server.  This must either be stored in the 
FE somewhere, OR perhaps is stored in the SQL database itself?

I guess my first question is where is the default user name stored?

At 2/07/2003, you wrote:
>Copying FE from one PC to another does not copy registry values affected 
>by SaveSetting/GetSetting.  The first time your program is executed the 
>user will have to enter his/her ID.  The next time the value from the 
>registry is retrieved via GetSetting.  If a different user is logged on to 
>the same PC for the first time, - the story is repeated all over.  Of 
>course it is possible to keep this information on the database server, but 
>then the actual connection has to be made using hard-coded credentials 
>that must never change.  This makes your app more rigid to distribution 
>and more demanding for recovery purposes.
>
>Robert Djabarov
>Senior SQL Server DBA
>USAA IT/DBMS
>? (210) 913-3148 - phone
>? (210) 753-3148 - pager
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>From:   David Emerson [mailto:davide at dalyn.co.nz]
>Sent:   Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:28 PM
>To:     dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject:        RE: [dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous
>
>This takes me to the MSDN website.  It seems that the solution is to make
>changes to the registry settings.  Is this correct?
>
>I am not sure if this is the correct solution as the user name must be
>stored in the actual FE itself (and not on the computer - otherwise the
>user that was used to link initially to the BE wouldn't appear on another
>computer that the FE has been copied to.)
>
>Can anyone else help me out or explain further?
>
>David
>
>At 1/07/2003, you wrote:
> >Check out SaveSetting/GetSetting in VB/VBA BOL.
> >
> >Robert Djabarov
> >Senior SQL Server DBA
> >USAA IT/DBMS
> >? (210) 913-3148 - phone
> >? (210) 753-3148 - pager
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >From:   David Emerson [mailto:davide at dalyn.co.nz]
> >Sent:   Monday, June 30, 2003 11:47 PM
> >To:     dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject:        [dba-SQLServer]Log on showing same user as previous
> >
> >I have an AXP ADP FE which is on several users computers.  It is connected
> >to an SQL2000 BE.
> >
> >I used a full copy of Access to make the initial connection with the
> >database.  However the users have various user names that they log in
> >as.  Currently when they start up the runtime version it asks for the user
> >and password for the SQL database.  The user defaults to the user that I
> >logged on as to make the initial connection.
> >
> >The users want it changed so that when the box appears asking for the user
> >and password, that the same user as they previously logged on as is in the
> >user field and they only need to enter the password (it worked in Access 97
> >so they want the same thing now).
> >
> >Each user does not have a full copy of access so that they can set up their
> >connections.  I also don't want to have to make individual copies of the FE
> >and connect then for each user.
> >
> >Is there some way for Access/SQL to remember the last user that logged on
> >and use this for logging on?  I can extract the current user from the
> >CurrentProject.Connection.ConnectionString property but where do I go from
> >here?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >David Emerson
> >DALYN Software Ltd
> >25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
> >Wellington, New Zealand
> >Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205


From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Sat Jul  5 18:17:11 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 23:17:11 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]changing server collation settings
Message-ID: <BAY1-F170pfTYSl1q4g00005057@hotmail.com>

Hello:

Has anyone every had problems/success with changing the server collation 
settings after install on SQL Server 2000.
BOL says to run Rebuildm.exe to rebuild server collation settings.
Anyone has any advice it would be great.

Thanks in advance,
Billy

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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Sat Jul  5 20:54:58 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:54:58 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Ping Again
Message-ID: <BAY1-F55b6KZmcK8r6b00002939@hotmail.com>

Pong


>From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com, dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com,   
>accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Ping Again
>Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 22:29:37 -0400
>
>Ping.
>
>--
>Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
>Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the
>ark, and professionals built the Titanic.
>
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  7 11:26:59 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 16:26:59 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Collation SQL Challenge
Message-ID: <BAY1-F32a5V7XNeNSjE00005a2f@hotmail.com>

Can anyone tell me an easy way to solve the following two sql statements?


--------------------------------------------------
DECLARE @table_a TABLE(THE_ID INT NOT NULL, THE_VALUE VARCHAR(20) Collate 
Latin1_General_CI_AS)
DECLARE @table_b TABLE(THE_ID INT NOT NULL, THE_VALUE VARCHAR(20) Collate 
SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS)

SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE FROM @table_a
UNION
SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE FROM @table_b;

/* The above produces the following error message:
Server: Msg 446, Level 16, State 9, Line 4
Cannot resolve collation conflict for UNION operation.
*/
GO
--------------------------------------------------
DECLARE @table_c TABLE(THE_ID INT NOT NULL, THE_VALUE VARCHAR(20) Collate 
Latin1_General_CI_AS)
DECLARE @table_d TABLE(THE_ID INT NOT NULL, THE_VALUE VARCHAR(20) Collate 
SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS)

SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE FROM @table_c
UNION ALL
SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE FROM @table_d;

/* The above produces the following error message:
Server: Msg 457, Level 16, State 1, Line 5
Implicit conversion of varchar value to varchar cannot be performed because 
the collation of the value is unresolved due to a collation conflict.
*/
GO
--------------------------------------------------

Thanks in advance,
Billy

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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Mon Jul  7 13:34:53 2003
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:34:53 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D08C620@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

I have linked 2 SQL Servers (SQL1 and SQL2) using sp_addlinkedserver.  I
used this sproc to link SQL1 to SQL2, then SQL2 to SQL1.
In Enterprise Mgr on SQL1 or SQL2, I can access the other server without
a problem.  
When I use Enterprise Mgr on my laptop, I cannot connect to either
server.  I receive the following error: "Login failed for user '(null)'.
Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection.".
I went into the properties of each linked server, and changed
"...connections will be made using this security context:" to a valid
login on each server.  I still receive the above error, with the login
in place of (null).
I've also tried using sp_addlinkedsrvlogin, but have not had much luck.

Any ideas as to why I am receiving this message?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

Sr. Systems Analyst

McBee Associates, Inc.

 

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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Mon Jul  7 13:41:15 2003
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:41:15 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems
In-Reply-To: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D08C620@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>
Message-ID: <DPEGIFJOAFKLEDNNDGHCOEGNEHAA.ebarro@afsweb.com>

Mark,

Try and use a SQL account login instead of a Windows account login. When you
log in to your laptop you need to have the same authenticated user on SQL
server. My guess is that you have a separate login on your laptop thus it is
passing your authentication to SQL server (that's what Trusted Connection
means) in which case it fails.

---
Eric Barro
Senior Systems Analyst
Advanced Field Services
(208) 772-7060
http://www.afsweb.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:35 AM
  To: SQLServerList
  Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems


  I have linked 2 SQL Servers (SQL1 and SQL2) using sp_addlinkedserver.  I
used this sproc to link SQL1 to SQL2, then SQL2 to SQL1.
  In Enterprise Mgr on SQL1 or SQL2, I can access the other server without a
problem.
  When I use Enterprise Mgr on my laptop, I cannot connect to either server.
I receive the following error: "Login failed for user '(null)'. Reason: Not
associated with a trusted SQL Server connection.".
  I went into the properties of each linked server, and changed
"...connections will be made using this security context:" to a valid login
on each server.  I still receive the above error, with the login in place of
(null).
  I've also tried using sp_addlinkedsrvlogin, but have not had much luck.

  Any ideas as to why I am receiving this message?
  Any help is greatly appreciated.

  Thanks,

  Mark Boyd

  Sr. Systems Analyst

  McBee Associates, Inc.



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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  7 13:44:55 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:44:55 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Table variable question
Message-ID: <BAY1-F148WiqJmdTcjJ00000ba9@hotmail.com>

Question regarding the table variable:

In a SQL Server install, we have the following:
Server collation: Latin1_General_CI_AS
Database collation: SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS

If you create a table variable with a varchar field, what collation is it?

A) Latin1_General_CI_AS
B) SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS

Is it A) or B)?

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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Mon Jul  7 14:08:01 2003
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:08:01 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D7780@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

Eric -

Thanks for the reply.

I have now created a new login on SQL1, named MarkB, with SQL Server
Authentication.  This is the same network login I use when booting up my
laptop.  I changed the security option "...connections will be made
using this security context:" to MarkB, and my network password.

Although, I am still receiving the error "Login failed for user 'MarkB'.
Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection.".

What am I missing?

 

Thanks,

Mark



 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Barro [mailto:ebarro at afsweb.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:41 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems

 

Mark,

 

Try and use a SQL account login instead of a Windows account login. When
you log in to your laptop you need to have the same authenticated user
on SQL server. My guess is that you have a separate login on your laptop
thus it is passing your authentication to SQL server (that's what
Trusted Connection means) in which case it fails.

 

---
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Senior Systems Analyst
Advanced Field Services
(208) 772-7060
http://www.afsweb.com <http://www.afsweb.com/>  

	-----Original Message-----
	From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark
Boyd
	Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:35 AM
	To: SQLServerList
	Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems

	I have linked 2 SQL Servers (SQL1 and SQL2) using
sp_addlinkedserver.  I used this sproc to link SQL1 to SQL2, then SQL2
to SQL1.
	In Enterprise Mgr on SQL1 or SQL2, I can access the other server
without a problem.  
	When I use Enterprise Mgr on my laptop, I cannot connect to
either server.  I receive the following error: "Login failed for user
'(null)'. Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection.".
	I went into the properties of each linked server, and changed
"...connections will be made using this security context:" to a valid
login on each server.  I still receive the above error, with the login
in place of (null).
	I've also tried using sp_addlinkedsrvlogin, but have not had
much luck.

	Any ideas as to why I am receiving this message?
	Any help is greatly appreciated.
	
	Thanks,

	Mark Boyd

	Sr. Systems Analyst

	McBee Associates, Inc.

	 

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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Mon Jul  7 14:30:26 2003
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:30:26 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems
In-Reply-To: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D7780@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>
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Mark,

When you configure your EM connection from your laptop you need to uncheck
the trusted connection box and instead use SQL server authentication instead
of Windows authentication. Windows is trying to pass your Windows
authentication to the SQL server. Since you are not on the same domain as
the SQL server when you connect it will see you as a "different user". In
other words you won't be using the same security context.
---
Eric Barro
Senior Systems Analyst
Advanced Field Services
(208) 772-7060
http://www.afsweb.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:08 PM
  To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems


  Eric ?

  Thanks for the reply.

  I have now created a new login on SQL1, named MarkB, with SQL Server
Authentication.  This is the same network login I use when booting up my
laptop.  I changed the security option "...connections will be made using
this security context:" to MarkB, and my network password.

  Although, I am still receiving the error ?Login failed for user 'MarkB'.
Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection.?.

  What am I missing?



  Thanks,

  Mark





  -----Original Message-----
  From: Eric Barro [mailto:ebarro at afsweb.com]
  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:41 PM
  To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems



  Mark,



  Try and use a SQL account login instead of a Windows account login. When
you log in to your laptop you need to have the same authenticated user on
SQL server. My guess is that you have a separate login on your laptop thus
it is passing your authentication to SQL server (that's what Trusted
Connection means) in which case it fails.



  ---
  Eric Barro
  Senior Systems Analyst
  Advanced Field Services
  (208) 772-7060
  http://www.afsweb.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
    Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:35 AM
    To: SQLServerList
    Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems

    I have linked 2 SQL Servers (SQL1 and SQL2) using sp_addlinkedserver.  I
used this sproc to link SQL1 to SQL2, then SQL2 to SQL1.
    In Enterprise Mgr on SQL1 or SQL2, I can access the other server without
a problem.
    When I use Enterprise Mgr on my laptop, I cannot connect to either
server.  I receive the following error: "Login failed for user '(null)'.
Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection.".
    I went into the properties of each linked server, and changed
"...connections will be made using this security context:" to a valid login
on each server.  I still receive the above error, with the login in place of
(null).
    I've also tried using sp_addlinkedsrvlogin, but have not had much luck.

    Any ideas as to why I am receiving this message?
    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Mark Boyd

    Sr. Systems Analyst

    McBee Associates, Inc.



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From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Mon Jul  7 19:53:34 2003
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:53:34 -0800 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]
	Any Siebel to SQL 7 development experience on this list?
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Tue Jul  8 08:39:03 2003
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:39:03 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D7782@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

Eric -

Thanks for your help.  I think I finally got it working.

I believe one of the main issues was the way the 2 servers were
configured.

The authentication was set up as 'Windows Only' on both machines.

I changed this to 'SQL Server and Windows', then created a login with
SQL authentication.

Everything looks good.

 

Thanks again,

Mark

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Barro [mailto:ebarro at afsweb.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:30 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems

 

Mark,

 

When you configure your EM connection from your laptop you need to
uncheck the trusted connection box and instead use SQL server
authentication instead of Windows authentication. Windows is trying to
pass your Windows authentication to the SQL server. Since you are not on
the same domain as the SQL server when you connect it will see you as a
"different user". In other words you won't be using the same security
context.

---
Eric Barro
Senior Systems Analyst
Advanced Field Services
(208) 772-7060
http://www.afsweb.com <http://www.afsweb.com/>  

	-----Original Message-----
	From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark
Boyd
	Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:08 PM
	To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
	Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems

	Eric -

	Thanks for the reply.

	I have now created a new login on SQL1, named MarkB, with SQL
Server Authentication.  This is the same network login I use when
booting up my laptop.  I changed the security option "...connections
will be made using this security context:" to MarkB, and my network
password.

	Although, I am still receiving the error "Login failed for user
'MarkB'. Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection.".

	What am I missing?

	 

	Thanks,

	Mark

	 

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Eric Barro [mailto:ebarro at afsweb.com] 
	Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:41 PM
	To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
	Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems

	 

	Mark,

	 

	Try and use a SQL account login instead of a Windows account
login. When you log in to your laptop you need to have the same
authenticated user on SQL server. My guess is that you have a separate
login on your laptop thus it is passing your authentication to SQL
server (that's what Trusted Connection means) in which case it fails.

	 

	---
	Eric Barro
	Senior Systems Analyst
	Advanced Field Services
	(208) 772-7060
	http://www.afsweb.com <http://www.afsweb.com/>  

		-----Original Message-----
		From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark
Boyd
		Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:35 AM
		To: SQLServerList
		Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Linked SQL Server Login Problems

		I have linked 2 SQL Servers (SQL1 and SQL2) using
sp_addlinkedserver.  I used this sproc to link SQL1 to SQL2, then SQL2
to SQL1.
		In Enterprise Mgr on SQL1 or SQL2, I can access the
other server without a problem.  
		When I use Enterprise Mgr on my laptop, I cannot connect
to either server.  I receive the following error: "Login failed for user
'(null)'. Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection.".
		I went into the properties of each linked server, and
changed "...connections will be made using this security context:" to a
valid login on each server.  I still receive the above error, with the
login in place of (null).
		I've also tried using sp_addlinkedsrvlogin, but have not
had much luck.

		Any ideas as to why I am receiving this message?
		Any help is greatly appreciated.
		
		Thanks,

		Mark Boyd

		Sr. Systems Analyst

		McBee Associates, Inc.

		 

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From Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com  Tue Jul  8 13:13:14 2003
From: Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com (Djabarov, Robert)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:13:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Collation SQL Challenge
Message-ID: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D24EBC30@ex02.eagle.usaa.com>

In the first snippet, rewrite your UNION by specifying the COLLATE for either the first or the second part of the UNION:

SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE Collate Latin1_General_CI_AS FROM @table_a
UNION
SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE FROM @table_b;

Exactly the same concept applies to your second snippet.

Robert Djabarov
Senior SQL Server DBA
USAA IT/DBMS
? (210) 913-3148 - phone
? (210) 753-3148 - pager


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Billy Pang [mailto:tuxedo_man at hotmail.com] 
Sent:	Monday, July 07, 2003 11:27 AM
To:	dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject:	[dba-SQLServer]Collation SQL Challenge

Can anyone tell me an easy way to solve the following two sql statements?


--------------------------------------------------
DECLARE @table_a TABLE(THE_ID INT NOT NULL, THE_VALUE VARCHAR(20) Collate 
Latin1_General_CI_AS)
DECLARE @table_b TABLE(THE_ID INT NOT NULL, THE_VALUE VARCHAR(20) Collate 
SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS)

SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE FROM @table_a
UNION
SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE FROM @table_b;

/* The above produces the following error message:
Server: Msg 446, Level 16, State 9, Line 4
Cannot resolve collation conflict for UNION operation.
*/
GO
--------------------------------------------------
DECLARE @table_c TABLE(THE_ID INT NOT NULL, THE_VALUE VARCHAR(20) Collate 
Latin1_General_CI_AS)
DECLARE @table_d TABLE(THE_ID INT NOT NULL, THE_VALUE VARCHAR(20) Collate 
SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS)

SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE FROM @table_c
UNION ALL
SELECT CAST(THE_ID AS VARCHAR(8)) + THE_VALUE FROM @table_d;

/* The above produces the following error message:
Server: Msg 457, Level 16, State 1, Line 5
Implicit conversion of varchar value to varchar cannot be performed because 
the collation of the value is unresolved due to a collation conflict.
*/
GO
--------------------------------------------------

Thanks in advance,
Billy

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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Tue Jul  8 13:54:37 2003
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 14:54:37 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Delete Publication
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D7783@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

I need to add a field to a table that is included in a subscription.

In order to add the field, I need to first delete the subscription and
publication.

I deleted the subscription without a problem.  However, I can't delete
the publication.

When attempting to delete it thru Enterprise Mgr, it freezes for a long
period of time.

I plan on rebooting the SQL Server first thing in the morning (hopefully
this will resolve things), but am curious if there is a way to delete a
publication using Query Analyzer.

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

Sr. Systems Analyst

McBee Associates, Inc.

 

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From Fredrick_Antony at Dell.com  Wed Jul  9 01:19:39 2003
From: Fredrick_Antony at Dell.com (Fredrick_Antony at Dell.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 01:19:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Delete Publication
Message-ID: <B45257F51345EB42AC1B10E8C11109D352F0C9@blrx2kmbgl202.blr.amer.dell.com>

Below may help 
 
Use <dbname>
go
sp_dboption 'published', false
go
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:25 AM
To: SQLServerList
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Delete Publication
 
I need to add a field to a table that is included in a subscription.
In order to add the field, I need to first delete the subscription and
publication.
I deleted the subscription without a problem.  However, I can't delete the
publication.
When attempting to delete it thru Enterprise Mgr, it freezes for a long
period of time.
I plan on rebooting the SQL Server first thing in the morning (hopefully
this will resolve things), but am curious if there is a way to delete a
publication using Query Analyzer.
Any ideas?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
Sr. Systems Analyst
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jul  9 07:57:22 2003
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:57:22 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Delete Publication
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D08C642@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

Frederick -

Thanks for the feedback.

I finally got the publication to delete thru Enterprise Mgr.

I'll definitely keep this code for future reference.

 

Thanks again,

Mark

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Fredrick_Antony at dell.com [mailto:Fredrick_Antony at dell.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:20 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Delete Publication

 

Below may help 

 

Use <dbname>

go

sp_dboption 'published', false

go

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:25 AM
To: SQLServerList
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Delete Publication

 

I need to add a field to a table that is included in a subscription.

In order to add the field, I need to first delete the subscription and
publication.

I deleted the subscription without a problem.  However, I can't delete
the publication.

When attempting to delete it thru Enterprise Mgr, it freezes for a long
period of time.

I plan on rebooting the SQL Server first thing in the morning (hopefully
this will resolve things), but am curious if there is a way to delete a
publication using Query Analyzer.

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

Sr. Systems Analyst

McBee Associates, Inc.

 

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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul  9 09:12:18 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:12:18 -0500 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05B26B1C@GUARDIAN_5>

I do not have the stored procedure, sp_refreshview.  SQL 7 (still).  Does
anyone have the procedure out there?  Was this part of an upgrade?  Thanks.

From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jul  9 08:22:13 2003
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:22:13 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D08C643@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

Karen -
This procedure is located in the master database, under Extended Stored
Procedures.

Mark Boyd
Sr. Systems Analyst
McBee Associates, Inc


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:12 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview

I do not have the stored procedure, sp_refreshview.  SQL 7 (still).
Does
anyone have the procedure out there?  Was this part of an upgrade?
Thanks.
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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul  9 09:41:02 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:41:02 -0500 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05B26B26@GUARDIAN_5>

Thanks, been looking and looking for it.  Now that I have found it, I am
trying to figure out why this code bombs, apparently it is when it hits the
sp_refreshview because if I comment out the lines for sp_refreshview, I
receive the  Object 'alp_app_sequence' was successfully marked for
recompilation. ...(goes through all my stored procedures).

DECLARE @objName VARCHAR(50)
SET	@objName = ''

WHILE	@objName IS NOT NULL
	BEGIN
		SELECT @objName = MIN( Name )
		FROM	SysObjects
		WHERE	Type='P' AND
			Name > @objName

		IF	@objName IS NOT NULL
				exec sp_refreshview @objName		
END

SET	@objName = ''

WHILE	@objName IS NOT NULL
	BEGIN
		SELECT @objName = MIN( Name )
		FROM	SysObjects
		WHERE	Type='P' AND
			Name > @objName

		IF	@objName IS NOT NULL
				exec sp_recompile @objName		
END



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Mark Boyd [SMTP:MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:22 AM
> To:	dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	RE: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview
> 
> Karen -
> This procedure is located in the master database, under Extended Stored
> Procedures.
> 
> Mark Boyd
> Sr. Systems Analyst
> McBee Associates, Inc
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:12 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview
> 
> I do not have the stored procedure, sp_refreshview.  SQL 7 (still).
> Does
> anyone have the procedure out there?  Was this part of an upgrade?
> Thanks.
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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul  9 09:55:09 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:55:09 -0500 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]More on sp_refreshview
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05B26B2C@GUARDIAN_5>

Daaa.... I changed the first reference to refresh only views. But it chokes,
thinking that Check_Constraints is not a valid name for a view, but it is.
What the $#&^$%$% ??

DECLARE @objName VARCHAR(50)
SET	@objName = ''

WHILE	@objName IS NOT NULL
	BEGIN
		SELECT @objName = MIN( Name )
		FROM	SysObjects
		WHERE	Type='V' AND
			Name > @objName

		/*IF	@objName IS NOT NULL
				exec sp_refreshview @objName		*/
END

SET	@objName = ''

WHILE	@objName IS NOT NULL
	BEGIN
		SELECT @objName = MIN( Name )
		FROM	SysObjects
		WHERE	Type='P' AND
			Name > @objName

		IF	@objName IS NOT NULL
				exec sp_recompile @objName		
END



From DElam at jenkens.com  Wed Jul  9 09:03:00 2003
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:03:00 -0500 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview
Message-ID: <4AAC675EBAF3D411BCA200508BCFAA8E02F21B1D@NATEXCH1>

Try putting in the command USE MASTER just before that command then USE
MyDatabase to set it back where you need it.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:41 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview


Thanks, been looking and looking for it.  Now that I have found it, I am
trying to figure out why this code bombs, apparently it is when it hits the
sp_refreshview because if I comment out the lines for sp_refreshview, I
receive the  Object 'alp_app_sequence' was successfully marked for
recompilation. ...(goes through all my stored procedures).

DECLARE @objName VARCHAR(50)
SET	@objName = ''

WHILE	@objName IS NOT NULL
	BEGIN
		SELECT @objName = MIN( Name )
		FROM	SysObjects
		WHERE	Type='P' AND
			Name > @objName

		IF	@objName IS NOT NULL
				exec sp_refreshview @objName		
END

SET	@objName = ''

WHILE	@objName IS NOT NULL
	BEGIN
		SELECT @objName = MIN( Name )
		FROM	SysObjects
		WHERE	Type='P' AND
			Name > @objName

		IF	@objName IS NOT NULL
				exec sp_recompile @objName		
END



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Mark Boyd [SMTP:MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:22 AM
> To:	dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	RE: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview
> 
> Karen -
> This procedure is located in the master database, under Extended Stored
> Procedures.
> 
> Mark Boyd
> Sr. Systems Analyst
> McBee Associates, Inc
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:12 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer]sp_refreshview
> 
> I do not have the stored procedure, sp_refreshview.  SQL 7 (still).
> Does
> anyone have the procedure out there?  Was this part of an upgrade?
> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Jul 10 13:19:33 2003
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:19:33 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto email users from SS7 on the 1st of month.
Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E239414@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I have a database in SQL Server 7 that stores time sheet information. Users
submit time sheets for the previous month. For example, on July 1st they
will need to submit their time sheet for June.

I have a table with the users and their e-mail addresses. What I would like
SQL Server to do is on July 1st automatically send out an e-mail to the
users who have not submitted a time sheet that will remind them that it is
due. I do not have a problem with creating a query that will tell me who
these users are, but I would like some help on how to make SQL Server run
this task, on its own, every month and e-mail a reminder to the qualifying
users.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Joe R.



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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Thu Jul 10 13:46:36 2003
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:46:36 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Failed Replication
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D7788@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

I'm trying to synchronize data from a SQL7 server (Publisher) to a SQL7
laptop (Subscriber).

I am constantly receiving the following error: "The process could not
enumerate changes at the subscriber".

I've tried searching the Knowledge Base, but the articles returned don't
seem to pertain to my specific issue.

Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

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From Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com  Thu Jul 10 16:31:16 2003
From: Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com (Djabarov, Robert)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:31:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto email users from SS7 on the 1st of month.
Message-ID: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D24EBC32@ex02.eagle.usaa.com>

You can use CDO object model to avoid having to have SQLMail running on your server.  Also, here's a stored procedure that you can use as a sample.

create procedure dbo.sp_send_cdosysmail (
   @SMTPServer varchar(128),
   @From varchar(100),
   @To varchar(100),
   @Subject varchar(100)= ' ',
   @Body varchar(8000) = ' '
as
   declare @iMsg int                ,
           @hr int                  ,
           @source varchar(255)     ,
           @description varchar(500),
           @output varchar(1000)

-- Do some error handling after each step if you need to.

   exec @hr = sp_OACreate 'CDO.Message', @iMsg out

   exec @hr = sp_OASetProperty @iMsg, 'Configuration.fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/sendusing").Value','2'

   exec @hr = sp_OASetProperty @iMsg, 'Configuration.fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserver").Value', @SMTPServer

   exec @hr = sp_OAMethod @iMsg, 'Configuration.Fields.Update', null

   exec @hr = sp_OASetProperty @iMsg, 'To', @To
   exec @hr = sp_OASetProperty @iMsg, 'From', @From
   exec @hr = sp_OASetProperty @iMsg, 'Subject', cast(@Subject as varchar(100))

   exec @hr = sp_OASetProperty @iMsg, 'TextBody', @Body
   exec @hr = sp_OAMethod @iMsg, 'Send', NULL

   if @hr <> 0 begin
      exec @hr = sp_OAGetErrorInfo null, @source out, @description out
      if @hr = 0 begin
         select @output = '  Source: ' + @source
         print  @output
         select @output = '  Description: ' + @description
         print  @output
      end else begin
         print '  sp_OAGetErrorInfo failed.'
         return
      end
   end

   exec @hr = sp_OADestroy @iMsg

GO

Robert Djabarov
Senior SQL Server DBA
USAA IT/DBMS
? (210) 913-3148 - phone
? (210) 753-3148 - pager


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent:	Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:20 PM
To:	'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject:	[dba-SQLServer]Auto email users from SS7 on the 1st of month.

Hi All,

I have a database in SQL Server 7 that stores time sheet information. Users
submit time sheets for the previous month. For example, on July 1st they
will need to submit their time sheet for June.

I have a table with the users and their e-mail addresses. What I would like
SQL Server to do is on July 1st automatically send out an e-mail to the
users who have not submitted a time sheet that will remind them that it is
due. I do not have a problem with creating a query that will tell me who
these users are, but I would like some help on how to make SQL Server run
this task, on its own, every month and e-mail a reminder to the qualifying
users.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Joe R.



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From cjm at haleyaldrich.com  Fri Jul 11 07:44:21 2003
From: cjm at haleyaldrich.com (Chris McIsaac)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:44:21 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto email users from SS7 on the 1st of month.
Message-ID: <2D75DD4827824A42B818038E44FFE21F9629D3@bosmail.haleyaldrich.com>

Just curious...why do you avoid using sqlmail?

-----Original Message-----
From: Djabarov, Robert [mailto:Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:31 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Auto email users from SS7 on the 1st of
month.


You can use CDO object model to avoid having to have SQLMail running on your server.  Also, here's a stored procedure that you can use as a sample.

From Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com  Fri Jul 11 10:53:28 2003
From: Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com (Djabarov, Robert)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:53:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto email users from SS7 on the 1st of month.
Message-ID: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D202DAC0B9@ex02.eagle.usaa.com>

I wouldn't, but the company's policy dictates otherwise, so CDO is the solution.

Robert Djabarov
Senior SQL Server DBA
USAA IT/DBMS
? (210) 913-3148 - phone
? (210) 753-3148 - pager


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Chris McIsaac [mailto:cjm at haleyaldrich.com] 
Sent:	Friday, July 11, 2003 7:44 AM
To:	dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject:	RE: [dba-SQLServer]Auto email users from SS7 on the 1st of month.

Just curious...why do you avoid using sqlmail?

-----Original Message-----
From: Djabarov, Robert [mailto:Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:31 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Auto email users from SS7 on the 1st of
month.


You can use CDO object model to avoid having to have SQLMail running on your server.  Also, here's a stored procedure that you can use as a sample.
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From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Sun Jul 13 22:44:28 2003
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:44:28 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Changing Connection string server
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030714153924.00b3fcd8@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

I have an application with an AXP ade and SQL2000 BE.  When an updated FE 
is ready I can connect to the SQL Server using Access and set the 
connection using File .. Connection.

However, I now have a situation where the SQL BE will be in another 
city.  I need a way for the users to be able to open an updated FE and 
connect to their data base.  They will not have Access XP and the process 
is to be as simple as possible.

Can anyone give me some pointers to how I can do this.  I will know the 
server name so if there was something I could do in code then this would be 
acceptable.

Regards

David Emerson
DALYN Software Ltd
25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205 


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From mikedorism at ntelos.net  Mon Jul 14 06:18:44 2003
From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:18:44 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Changing Connection string server
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030714153924.00b3fcd8@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <000001c349f9$b3d0dd40$df320cd8@hargrove.internal>

Create a User or System DSN via code.  If you would like the code for how to
do it, email me offline.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
Emerson
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:44 PM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Changing Connection string server


I have an application with an AXP ade and SQL2000 BE.  When an updated FE 
is ready I can connect to the SQL Server using Access and set the 
connection using File .. Connection.

However, I now have a situation where the SQL BE will be in another 
city.  I need a way for the users to be able to open an updated FE and 
connect to their data base.  They will not have Access XP and the process 
is to be as simple as possible.

Can anyone give me some pointers to how I can do this.  I will know the 
server name so if there was something I could do in code then this would be 
acceptable.

Regards

David Emerson
DALYN Software Ltd
25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205 

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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Mon Jul 14 16:20:50 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:20:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Crystal/SQL 7.0 Error
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05D1E8E2@GUARDIAN_5>

Suddenly, on Sunday (sounds like an obituary) a large report running from
Crystal Reports has spewed out this message:

ODBC Error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Drive][SQL Server] Could not
continue scan with NOLOCK due to data movement.

Anyone ever see this before?  Thanks.

From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us  Mon Jul 14 15:30:07 2003
From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:30:07 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Crystal/SQL 7.0 Error
Message-ID: <D859A1A91D36184C8C28B77BF899C08609F359A5@ladybird.tea.state.tx.us>

Karen,

My guess is that somebody was moving files on the server during the time
CR was trying to gather the data it needed.

Charles Wortz
Software Development Division
Texas Education Agency
1701 N. Congress Ave
Austin, TX 78701-1494
512-463-9493
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
Sent: Monday 2003 Jul 14 16:21
To: Dba-Sqlserver (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Crystal/SQL 7.0 Error


Suddenly, on Sunday (sounds like an obituary) a large report running
from Crystal Reports has spewed out this message:

ODBC Error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Drive][SQL Server] Could not
continue scan with NOLOCK due to data movement.

Anyone ever see this before?  Thanks.
_______________________________________________

From knicholson at gpsx.net  Mon Jul 14 16:34:59 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:34:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Crystal/SQL 7.0 Error
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05D1E8ED@GUARDIAN_5>

That's what we thought, but we have tried it all day and keep getting the
same message. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Wortz, Charles [SMTP:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us]
> Sent:	Monday, July 14, 2003 3:30 PM
> To:	dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	RE: [dba-SQLServer]Crystal/SQL 7.0 Error
> 
> Karen,
> 
> My guess is that somebody was moving files on the server during the time
> CR was trying to gather the data it needed.
> 
> Charles Wortz
> Software Development Division
> Texas Education Agency
> 1701 N. Congress Ave
> Austin, TX 78701-1494
> 512-463-9493
> CWortz at tea.state.tx.us
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
> Sent: Monday 2003 Jul 14 16:21
> To: Dba-Sqlserver (E-mail)
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Crystal/SQL 7.0 Error
> 
> 
> Suddenly, on Sunday (sounds like an obituary) a large report running
> from Crystal Reports has spewed out this message:
> 
> ODBC Error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Drive][SQL Server] Could not
> continue scan with NOLOCK due to data movement.
> 
> Anyone ever see this before?  Thanks.
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From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Jul 16 00:02:22 2003
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:02:22 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Changing Connection string server
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030716164149.00b1b380@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

I am getting closer to the solution (I think).

Thanks to Doris for her code but I don't think it is quite what I need.

I now have the following which is called from an autoexec maco -

Public Function basSetAucklandConnection()

     Dim sUID As String 'The user ID
     Dim sPWD As String 'The user password
     Dim sServerName As String 'The name of the MSDE or SQL Server
     Dim sDatabaseFileName As String 'The name of the mdf
     Dim sDatabaseName As String 'The name of the database
     Dim sConnectionString As String

Application.CurrentProject.OpenConnection ""

     sUID = "fred" 'User ID
     sPWD = "mydog" 'Password
     sServerName = "AUCKLAND" 'Local MSDE or SQL Server
     sDatabaseName = "MySQLbe" 'Name of the database

     'Connect this adp to new database.
      sConnectionString = "PROVIDER=SQLOLEDB.1;PASSWORD=" & sPWD & _
           ";PERSIST SECURITY INFO=FALSE;USER ID=" & sUID & _
           ";INITIAL CATALOG=" & sDatabaseName & ";DATA SOURCE=" & sServerName
     Application.CurrentProject.OpenConnection sConnectionString

..etc

This works except for one problem - the user doesn't need to put in a 
password (hence no security)!!

What I want is for the normal SQL logon box to appear asking for user and 
password.

If there is not a simple way to do this then I may have to resort to an 
Access pop up box asking for the details and then feed these into the sUID 
and sPWD variables before putting them into the sConnectionString.


Regards

David Emerson
DALYN Software Ltd
25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205 


From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Jul 16 00:15:47 2003
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:15:47 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Changing Connection string server
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030716171407.00b35508@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Further to my other message - I have found a property called Prompt which 
is supposed to do what I want - but I can't get it to.  I have tried -

      sConnectionString = "PROVIDER=SQLOLEDB.1;PROMPT=1" & _
           ";PERSIST SECURITY INFO=FALSE;" & _
           ";INITIAL CATALOG=" & sDatabaseName & ";DATA SOURCE=" & sServerName

and

      sConnectionString = 
"PROVIDER=SQLOLEDB.1;PROMPT=adpromptAlways;PASSWORD=" & sPWD & _
           ";PERSIST SECURITY INFO=FALSE;USER ID=" & sUID & _
           ";INITIAL CATALOG=" & sDatabaseName & ";DATA SOURCE=" & sServerName

but neither work (nor variations).  Any pointers?

Regards

David Emerson
DALYN Software Ltd
25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205  


From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Wed Jul 16 02:53:15 2003
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?us-ascii?Q?Michael_Brosdorf?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:53:15 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]
	Referential integrity question (Generalization/Specification)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030716171407.00b35508@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHGEGPEEAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

Dear group,

for an application I need to implement a generalization of data objects.
As an example, let there be 3 tables:

1. Vehicles
2. Cars
3. Trucks

Every vehicle is, of course a vehicle with some common properties (for
instance steering wheel diameter :-)).
But then it is either a car or (xor) a truck, which both have different
properties that apply only to the respective type of vehicle (e.g. number of
passenger seats for cars etc.).

Every vehicle has an entry in tblVehicles with a unique Vehicle_ID.
Additionally, every vehicle has an entry in either tblCars (Cars_ID is PK,
Vehicle_ID is FK) OR tblTrucks (with Truck_ID as PK and Vehicle_ID as FK).

A given Vehicle_ID can be in only one of the specific table.

Is there any way to enforce referential integrity in a scheme like that
using SQL Server 2000 Constraints or other mechanisms? If not, has anyone
implemented something like that (using triggers?) and would like to share
his/her experiences?


TIA,


Michael


From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 16 07:19:13 2003
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:19:13 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Changing Connection string server
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030716171407.00b35508@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <001b01c34b94$784581d0$8e01a8c0@Rock>

What you're after is exactly how my app behaves, so I thought I should look
at its connection string. Here it is:
Provider=Microsoft.Access.OLEDB.10.0;Persist Security Info=False;Data
Source=rock;User ID='Enter your name and password';Initial
Catalog=ETS_Current;Data Provider=SQLOLEDB.1

TO achieve this I created a user called 'Enter your name and password'. Then
when I create the ADE file from the ADP, I log on as that user first. The
point is that SQL prompts for the password, since there is none provided in
the connection string.

Which admittedly looks a lot like what you're trying to do. One difference
is that I don't do it in code, but right from the Access File menu. Of
course, I'm not trying to pick up the user ID from the system. I make them
type it in.

Hth,
Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
Emerson
Sent: July 16, 2003 1:16 AM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Changing Connection string server


Further to my other message - I have found a property called Prompt which 
is supposed to do what I want - but I can't get it to.  I have tried -

      sConnectionString = "PROVIDER=SQLOLEDB.1;PROMPT=1" & _
           ";PERSIST SECURITY INFO=FALSE;" & _
           ";INITIAL CATALOG=" & sDatabaseName & ";DATA SOURCE=" &
sServerName

and

      sConnectionString = 
"PROVIDER=SQLOLEDB.1;PROMPT=adpromptAlways;PASSWORD=" & sPWD & _
           ";PERSIST SECURITY INFO=FALSE;USER ID=" & sUID & _
           ";INITIAL CATALOG=" & sDatabaseName & ";DATA SOURCE=" &
sServerName

but neither work (nor variations).  Any pointers?

Regards

David Emerson
DALYN Software Ltd
25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205  

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 16 07:34:47 2003
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:34:47 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Referential integrity question
	(Generalization/Specification)
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHGEGPEEAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>
Message-ID: <001c01c34b96$a4692e40$8e01a8c0@Rock>

I have done something like this, and would approach your problem like this:

tblVehicles
	vehicleID - autonumber
	group - contains either "C" or "T"
	... Common columns

tblCars
	vehicleID - integer copied from tblVehicles
	group - always contains "C"
	... Unique car columns

tblTrucks
	vehicleID - integer copied from tblVehicles
	group - always contains "T" 	
	... Unique truck columns

The PK on the tblVehicles table comprises the first two columns. The PK on
tblCars and tblTrucks is the same. Then create a pair of queries that join
on the PK to tblCars and tblTrucks. In other words, no trucks will appear in
one query and no cars in the other.

For ease of implementation, I would present the list as read-only, and then
when a user double-clicks an item in the list, I know immediately which form
to open (frmCarDetails or frmTruckDetails). On the master form
(frmVehicles), when the user wants to add a record, as soon as she chooses
the group I know which table to add a row to.

In my situation, I needed about 10 different detail types, so I put them in
a table containing a column for the form name, which eliminated pretty much
all the code required to deal with this. I just looked in the table, grabbed
the form name and opened it.

Hth,
Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Brosdorf
Sent: July 16, 2003 3:53 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Referential integrity question
(Generalization/Specification)


Dear group,

for an application I need to implement a generalization of data objects. As
an example, let there be 3 tables:

1. Vehicles
2. Cars
3. Trucks

Every vehicle is, of course a vehicle with some common properties (for
instance steering wheel diameter :-)). But then it is either a car or (xor)
a truck, which both have different properties that apply only to the
respective type of vehicle (e.g. number of passenger seats for cars etc.).

Every vehicle has an entry in tblVehicles with a unique Vehicle_ID.
Additionally, every vehicle has an entry in either tblCars (Cars_ID is PK,
Vehicle_ID is FK) OR tblTrucks (with Truck_ID as PK and Vehicle_ID as FK).

A given Vehicle_ID can be in only one of the specific table.

Is there any way to enforce referential integrity in a scheme like that
using SQL Server 2000 Constraints or other mechanisms? If not, has anyone
implemented something like that (using triggers?) and would like to share
his/her experiences?


TIA,


Michael


From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us  Wed Jul 16 07:40:02 2003
From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:40:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Referential integrity question
	(Generalization/Specification)
Message-ID: <D859A1A91D36184C8C28B77BF899C08609F878D9@ladybird.tea.state.tx.us>

So how do you classify the cross-overs they are coming out with?  Are
they cars or trucks or both or neither?  And how do you classify SUVs?
Some are built on truck chassis and some on auto chassis.  Unless the
subclasses are mutually exclusive there is no way of implementing RI.
If the subclasses are mutually exclusive, then you can write rules to
prohibit the same ID being in two subtables.

Charles Wortz
Software Development Division
Texas Education Agency
1701 N. Congress Ave
Austin, TX 78701-1494
512-463-9493
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Brosdorf [mailto:michael.broesdorf at web.de] 
Sent: Wednesday 2003 Jul 16 02:53
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Referential integrity question
(Generalization/Specification)


Dear group,

for an application I need to implement a generalization of data objects.
As an example, let there be 3 tables:

1. Vehicles
2. Cars
3. Trucks

Every vehicle is, of course a vehicle with some common properties (for
instance steering wheel diameter :-)). But then it is either a car or
(xor) a truck, which both have different properties that apply only to
the respective type of vehicle (e.g. number of passenger seats for cars
etc.).

Every vehicle has an entry in tblVehicles with a unique Vehicle_ID.
Additionally, every vehicle has an entry in either tblCars (Cars_ID is
PK, Vehicle_ID is FK) OR tblTrucks (with Truck_ID as PK and Vehicle_ID
as FK).

A given Vehicle_ID can be in only one of the specific table.

Is there any way to enforce referential integrity in a scheme like that
using SQL Server 2000 Constraints or other mechanisms? If not, has
anyone implemented something like that (using triggers?) and would like
to share his/her experiences?


TIA,


Michael

From sgeller at cce.umn.edu  Wed Jul 16 09:06:00 2003
From: sgeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Geller)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:06:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Subreport not recognizing parent/child link
Message-ID: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01119DF8@ccemail2.cce.local>

A2K ADP.  I have a report with a subreport in a group footer.  The
recordsource for each is a sproc and I have input parameters in the
properties of each report.  Problem is that the subreport that's in the
group footer  displays ALL data, not just the data for that value being
grouped on.  So, on the report, I get the same data in every group
footer.  I do have the parent and child fields identified in the
properties of the subreport object on the main report.  This does not
happen when I use views as the recordsource for the main and subreports.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!

--Susan


Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568



From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Wed Jul 16 09:22:38 2003
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?us-ascii?Q?Michael_Brosdorf?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:22:38 +0200
Subject: AW: [dba-SQLServer]Referential integrity
	question(Generalization/Specification)
In-Reply-To: <D859A1A91D36184C8C28B77BF899C08609F878D9@ladybird.tea.state.tx.us>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHCEHJEEAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

Arthur, Charles,

thank you for your comments. My application is actually not about vehicles,
I used that just as an example (sorry for not making that clear). Actually
it is not even a real generalization/specialization since the subclasses are
totally different things. The only thing they have in common with the
superclass are that they exist and that exactly one item from one of the
subclasses is matched to an item of the superclass. To be precise: the
superclass links dimensions (which are the subclasses) to certain key
values, that are kept in yet another table. The dimensions are already
existing tables in a pretty complex production database.

Right now, the users want to assign the key numbers to a set of 4 dimensions
(and they want to be able to use that with any combination of dimensions).
But I have developed a certain mistrust in the demands of end users
(especially when it comes to reporting...). Therefore I want to be able to
add new dimension by simple creating an entry in a control table. That is
the reason why I can't simply put the PK of the dimension tables in the
table containing the key number values as foreign keys.

But it looks like I will have to implement that using triggers..

A picture of the data structure I've come up with so far can be found at
http://www.salabresam.de/RI%20Question.jpg
The two highlighted field control the source table (ST) to which the ST_ID
originates.

Again, thanks for your comments!


Michael


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Charles
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2003 14:40
An: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Referential integrity
question(Generalization/Specification)


So how do you classify the cross-overs they are coming out with?  Are
they cars or trucks or both or neither?  And how do you classify SUVs?
Some are built on truck chassis and some on auto chassis.  Unless the
subclasses are mutually exclusive there is no way of implementing RI.
If the subclasses are mutually exclusive, then you can write rules to
prohibit the same ID being in two subtables.

Charles Wortz
Software Development Division
Texas Education Agency
1701 N. Congress Ave
Austin, TX 78701-1494
512-463-9493
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Brosdorf [mailto:michael.broesdorf at web.de]
Sent: Wednesday 2003 Jul 16 02:53
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Referential integrity question
(Generalization/Specification)


Dear group,

for an application I need to implement a generalization of data objects.
As an example, let there be 3 tables:

1. Vehicles
2. Cars
3. Trucks

Every vehicle is, of course a vehicle with some common properties (for
instance steering wheel diameter :-)). But then it is either a car or
(xor) a truck, which both have different properties that apply only to
the respective type of vehicle (e.g. number of passenger seats for cars
etc.).

Every vehicle has an entry in tblVehicles with a unique Vehicle_ID.
Additionally, every vehicle has an entry in either tblCars (Cars_ID is
PK, Vehicle_ID is FK) OR tblTrucks (with Truck_ID as PK and Vehicle_ID
as FK).

A given Vehicle_ID can be in only one of the specific table.

Is there any way to enforce referential integrity in a scheme like that
using SQL Server 2000 Constraints or other mechanisms? If not, has
anyone implemented something like that (using triggers?) and would like
to share his/her experiences?


TIA,


Michael
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From Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com  Wed Jul 16 09:44:48 2003
From: Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com (Djabarov, Robert)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:44:48 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Subreport not recognizing parent/child link
Message-ID: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D202DAC0C9@ex02.eagle.usaa.com>

Sorry for the trivial question, but does the procedure for the group footer accept the key from the group as one of the parameters?  If yes, then see if you can enforce an exact value to be passed rather than having a default value for the parameter (e.g. create proc test (@key int = null) as...)

Robert Djabarov
Senior SQL Server DBA
USAA IT/DBMS
? (210) 913-3148 - phone
? (210) 753-3148 - pager


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Susan Geller [mailto:sgeller at cce.umn.edu] 
Sent:	Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:06 AM
To:	dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject:	[dba-SQLServer]Subreport not recognizing parent/child link

A2K ADP.  I have a report with a subreport in a group footer.  The
recordsource for each is a sproc and I have input parameters in the
properties of each report.  Problem is that the subreport that's in the
group footer  displays ALL data, not just the data for that value being
grouped on.  So, on the report, I get the same data in every group
footer.  I do have the parent and child fields identified in the
properties of the subreport object on the main report.  This does not
happen when I use views as the recordsource for the main and subreports.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!

--Susan


Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568


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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 16 10:39:04 2003
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:39:04 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Subreport not recognizing parent/child link
In-Reply-To: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01119DF8@ccemail2.cce.local>
Message-ID: <004901c34bb0$631c4430$8e01a8c0@Rock>

If you can, switch the subreport's recordsource to a view, leaving the main
recordsource as your first sproc.

Hth,
Arthur

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Geller
Sent: July 16, 2003 10:06 AM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Subreport not recognizing parent/child link


A2K ADP.  I have a report with a subreport in a group footer.  The
recordsource for each is a sproc and I have input parameters in the
properties of each report.  Problem is that the subreport that's in the
group footer  displays ALL data, not just the data for that value being
grouped on.  So, on the report, I get the same data in every group footer.
I do have the parent and child fields identified in the properties of the
subreport object on the main report.  This does not happen when I use views
as the recordsource for the main and subreports. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!

--Susan



From sgeller at cce.umn.edu  Wed Jul 16 10:51:26 2003
From: sgeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Geller)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:51:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Subreport not recognizing parent/child link
Message-ID: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01119DFC@ccemail2.cce.local>

The procedure for the subreport accepts the same parameters as the
procedure for the main report.  I'm not sure how I would pass a
parameter that is the value for the group footer, although that does
seem like what I need to do.

Arthur, a view doesn't work b/c I need to be able to pass parameters.

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: Djabarov, Robert [mailto:Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:45 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Subreport not recognizing parent/child link


Sorry for the trivial question, but does the procedure for the group
footer accept the key from the group as one of the parameters?  If yes,
then see if you can enforce an exact value to be passed rather than
having a default value for the parameter (e.g. create proc test (@key
int = null) as...)

Robert Djabarov
Senior SQL Server DBA
USAA IT/DBMS
? (210) 913-3148 - phone
? (210) 753-3148 - pager


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Susan Geller [mailto:sgeller at cce.umn.edu] 
Sent:	Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:06 AM
To:	dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject:	[dba-SQLServer]Subreport not recognizing parent/child
link

A2K ADP.  I have a report with a subreport in a group footer.  The
recordsource for each is a sproc and I have input parameters in the
properties of each report.  Problem is that the subreport that's in the
group footer  displays ALL data, not just the data for that value being
grouped on.  So, on the report, I get the same data in every group
footer.  I do have the parent and child fields identified in the
properties of the subreport object on the main report.  This does not
happen when I use views as the recordsource for the main and subreports.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!

--Susan


Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568


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From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Jul 16 14:18:35 2003
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:18:35 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Changing Connection string server
In-Reply-To: <001b01c34b94$784581d0$8e01a8c0@Rock>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030716171407.00b35508@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030717071129.00b1b9a8@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Arthur.  Unfortunately, in my case I don't have access to the server 
to be able to do the initial logging in.  However I do know the name of the 
server so I came up with this solution which seems to work.  The Prompt 
property seems to only work when opening a connection, and not setting the 
applications connection string (Not sure why) -

Public Function basSetAucklandConnection()

     On Error GoTo Err_basSetAucklandConnection

     Dim sUID As String 'The user ID
     Dim sPWD As String 'The user password
     Dim sServerName As String 'The name of the MSDE or SQL Server
     Dim sDatabaseName As String 'The name of the database
     Dim sConnectionString As String

     Application.CurrentProject.OpenConnection ""
     sServerName = "AUCKLAND" 'Local MSDE or SQL Server
     sDatabaseName = "SQLbe" 'Name of the database

     Dim cnn As ADODB.Connection, intStartPos As Integer, intStopPos As Integer

StartHere:
     Set cnn = New ADODB.Connection
     With cnn
         .Provider = "SQLOLEDB"
         .Properties("Data Source") = sServerName
         .Properties("Initial Catalog") = sDatabaseName
         .Properties("Prompt") = adPromptAlways
         .Open
     End With
     intStartPos = InStr(cnn.ConnectionString, "User ID=") + 8
     intStopPos = InStr(intStartPos, cnn.ConnectionString, ";")
     sUID = Mid$(cnn.ConnectionString, intStartPos, intStopPos - intStartPos)
     intStartPos = InStr(cnn.ConnectionString, "Password=") + 9
     intStopPos = InStr(intStartPos, cnn.ConnectionString, ";")
     sPWD = Mid$(cnn.ConnectionString, intStartPos, intStopPos - intStartPos)
     cnn.Close
     Set cnn = Nothing

     'Connect this adp to database.
      sConnectionString = 
"PROVIDER=SQLOLEDB.1;PROMPT=adpromptAlways;PASSWORD=" & sPWD & _
           ";PERSIST SECURITY INFO=FALSE;USER ID=" & sUID & _
           ";INITIAL CATALOG=" & sDatabaseName & ";DATA SOURCE=" & sServerName
     Application.CurrentProject.OpenConnection sConnectionString

Exit_basSetAucklandConnection:
     Exit Function

Err_basSetAucklandConnection:
     Select Case Err
         Case -2147217842
             If MsgBox("You need to log in before you can use the 
programme.  Do you want to try again?", vbYesNo) = vbYes Then
                 Resume StartHere
             Else
                 DoCmd.Quit
             End If
         Case Else
             Call basErrorMsg("basSetAucklandConnection")
     End Select
     Resume Exit_basSetAucklandConnection

End Function



At 16/07/2003, you wrote:
>What you're after is exactly how my app behaves, so I thought I should look
>at its connection string. Here it is:
>Provider=Microsoft.Access.OLEDB.10.0;Persist Security Info=False;Data
>Source=rock;User ID='Enter your name and password';Initial
>Catalog=ETS_Current;Data Provider=SQLOLEDB.1
>
>TO achieve this I created a user called 'Enter your name and password'. Then
>when I create the ADE file from the ADP, I log on as that user first. The
>point is that SQL prompts for the password, since there is none provided in
>the connection string.
>
>Which admittedly looks a lot like what you're trying to do. One difference
>is that I don't do it in code, but right from the Access File menu. Of
>course, I'm not trying to pick up the user ID from the system. I make them
>type it in.
>
>Hth,
>Arthur
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
>Emerson
>Sent: July 16, 2003 1:16 AM
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Changing Connection string server
>
>
>Further to my other message - I have found a property called Prompt which
>is supposed to do what I want - but I can't get it to.  I have tried -
>
>       sConnectionString = "PROVIDER=SQLOLEDB.1;PROMPT=1" & _
>            ";PERSIST SECURITY INFO=FALSE;" & _
>            ";INITIAL CATALOG=" & sDatabaseName & ";DATA SOURCE=" &
>sServerName
>
>and
>
>       sConnectionString =
>"PROVIDER=SQLOLEDB.1;PROMPT=adpromptAlways;PASSWORD=" & sPWD & _
>            ";PERSIST SECURITY INFO=FALSE;USER ID=" & sUID & _
>            ";INITIAL CATALOG=" & sDatabaseName & ";DATA SOURCE=" &
>sServerName
>
>but neither work (nor variations).  Any pointers?

Regards

David Emerson
DALYN Software Ltd
25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205 


From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Thu Jul 17 09:56:31 2003
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?us-ascii?Q?Michael_Brosdorf?=)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:56:31 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Trigger problem
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030717071129.00b1b9a8@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEIIEEAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

Dear group,

I have a strange problem with a trigger on a view. The trigger is an instead
of trigger for deletes.
If I work with the view/table from within my application or SQL Analyzer,
everything works fine (in that case,
deletes through the view are cancelled).

But, if I open the view in the Enterprise Manager, I can delete rows from
the view. Now, that makes me think that something is not set up right...

Here are the scripts:


CREATE TABLE [Table1] (
	[Test_ID] [int] NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO

INSERT INTO Table1 values(1)
INSERT INTO Table1 values(2)
INSERT INTO Table1 values(3)


CREATE VIEW dbo.vueTest
AS
SELECT     *
FROM         dbo.Table1

CREATE TRIGGER [vueTest_Trig_D] ON vueTest
INSTEAD OF  DELETE
AS
raiserror ('Nonono!!',16,10)

Any ideas?

Michael


From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Thu Jul 17 10:08:06 2003
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?us-ascii?Q?Michael_Brosdorf?=)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:08:06 +0200
Subject: AW: [dba-SQLServer]Trigger problem (update)
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEIIEEAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHKEIJEEAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

Just found out something even more strange:

that statement works just fine:

CREATE TRIGGER vueTest_Trig_D ON [dbo].[vueTest]
instead of delete
AS
raiserror ('Nonono!!',16,10)


But this one tells me, 'Invalid object name 'dbo.vueTest'':

CREATE TRIGGER vueTest_Trig_D ON [dbo].[vueTest]
For delete
AS
raiserror ('Nonono!!',16,10)
rollback transaction


AFAIK it should be possible to create a trigger on a view, or is it?

Michael

From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Thu Jul 17 10:23:48 2003
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?us-ascii?Q?Michael_Brosdorf?=)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:23:48 +0200
Subject: AW: [dba-SQLServer]Trigger problem solved - new problem
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHKEIJEEAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHEEIKEEAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

Just found out myself: EM seems to process data on the underlying tables
directly, so the instead of trigger of the view never gets it's chance.

Specifying VIEW_METADATA in the view's definition solves that problem.

Does anyone have any experience if using that option has any influence if
the view is linked to an Access 2000 database as a linked table?


TIA,

Michael

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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von
Michael Brosdorf
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2003 17:08
An: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: AW: [dba-SQLServer]Trigger problem (update)


Just found out something even more strange:

that statement works just fine:

CREATE TRIGGER vueTest_Trig_D ON [dbo].[vueTest]
instead of delete
AS
raiserror ('Nonono!!',16,10)


But this one tells me, 'Invalid object name 'dbo.vueTest'':

CREATE TRIGGER vueTest_Trig_D ON [dbo].[vueTest]
For delete
AS
raiserror ('Nonono!!',16,10)
rollback transaction


AFAIK it should be possible to create a trigger on a view, or is it?

Michael
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From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Sun Jul 20 20:04:28 2003
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:04:28 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Recordsource running before Open Event
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030721122304.00b46e90@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Groups,

I have the following code in the Open event of a form -

     If Me.OpenArgs <> "All" Then
         Me.InputParameters = Me.OpenArgs        <-  Form_Current event 
triggers here
         Me.RecordSource = "spfrmGeneralJournal"
     Else
         Me.RecordSource = "spfrmGeneralJournal"
     End If

The problem is that the "Me.InputParameters = Me.OpenArgs" triggers the 
Form's Current event.  This is a problem because in there it checks for the 
value of a field and because the Recordsource hasn't been defined yet it 
generates an error.  The reason that the record source is not defined until 
in the Open Event is because the front end is linked to an SQL B/E and the 
table that is the source has over 55,000 records which is taking over 5 
seconds to open.  This is opened, then the Open event is fired to produce 
the reduced record set (in effect the sproc is being run twice).

Does anyone have a method for opening the form without the Current event 
being triggered before the  open event is completed? (Or preventing the 
sproc being run before the Open event is processed)?


Regards

David Emerson
DALYN Software Ltd
25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205 


From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Sun Jul 20 20:04:28 2003
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:04:28 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] Recordsource running before Open Event
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030721122304.00b46e90@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Groups,

I have the following code in the Open event of a form -

     If Me.OpenArgs <> "All" Then
         Me.InputParameters = Me.OpenArgs        <-  Form_Current event 
triggers here
         Me.RecordSource = "spfrmGeneralJournal"
     Else
         Me.RecordSource = "spfrmGeneralJournal"
     End If

The problem is that the "Me.InputParameters = Me.OpenArgs" triggers the 
Form's Current event.  This is a problem because in there it checks for the 
value of a field and because the Recordsource hasn't been defined yet it 
generates an error.  The reason that the record source is not defined until 
in the Open Event is because the front end is linked to an SQL B/E and the 
table that is the source has over 55,000 records which is taking over 5 
seconds to open.  This is opened, then the Open event is fired to produce 
the reduced record set (in effect the sproc is being run twice).

Does anyone have a method for opening the form without the Current event 
being triggered before the  open event is completed? (Or preventing the 
sproc being run before the Open event is processed)?


Regards

David Emerson
DALYN Software Ltd
25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205 

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Mon Jul 21 09:59:54 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:59:54 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Copying a record VB6 & SQL Server 7.0
Message-ID: <20030721145954.RCHZ18716.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

To all,

we have a high turnover of staff, mainly because most are casual workers and don't want full-time employment.  When a member of staff leaves we issue them with a finish date.  However if they decide they want to come back we need to re-employ them with a new payroll number, I have a re-employ button that asks the user for the new payroll number...but here is where I need help : I then need to create an identical personnel record (66 fields to the one shown on screen) but with the new payroll number.

My front-end is Visual Basic 6 and my back-end is SQL Server 7.0.  I thought the easiest way would be to create an insert stored procedure with parameters and then execute it from VB, so I created the SP and ran it using Query Analyser (Worked Fine), I also added it to my dataenvironment as a command.  However when I type DEGenSQL.sp_Personnel_ReEmploy I get no option to enter any of the parameters and if I try RUN/Start With Full Compile I get the following error message :

Compile Error : Subscript Out Of Range

This makes me think there are too many parameters required.

Has anyone else come across this, or does anyone know of a better way to go about this.

Paul Hartland

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Mon Jul 21 09:59:54 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:59:54 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] Copying a record VB6 & SQL Server 7.0
Message-ID: <20030721145954.RCHZ18716.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

To all,

we have a high turnover of staff, mainly because most are casual workers and don't want full-time employment.  When a member of staff leaves we issue them with a finish date.  However if they decide they want to come back we need to re-employ them with a new payroll number, I have a re-employ button that asks the user for the new payroll number...but here is where I need help : I then need to create an identical personnel record (66 fields to the one shown on screen) but with the new payroll number.

My front-end is Visual Basic 6 and my back-end is SQL Server 7.0.  I thought the easiest way would be to create an insert stored procedure with parameters and then execute it from VB, so I created the SP and ran it using Query Analyser (Worked Fine), I also added it to my dataenvironment as a command.  However when I type DEGenSQL.sp_Personnel_ReEmploy I get no option to enter any of the parameters and if I try RUN/Start With Full Compile I get the following error message :

Compile Error : Subscript Out Of Range

This makes me think there are too many parameters required.

Has anyone else come across this, or does anyone know of a better way to go about this.

Paul Hartland

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From my.lists at verizon.net  Mon Jul 21 10:21:27 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:21:27 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Copying a record VB6 & SQL Server 7.0
References: <20030721145954.RCHZ18716.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost>
Message-ID: <004801c34f9b$c1fbb690$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

Paul,
  it has been my experiance that when you have a long series of parameters,
it is often best to pass them back using a command object.  something along
the line the following

Dim Cmd As adodb.Command, lngAffected As Long
Set Cmd = New adodb.Command
    With Cmd
        .ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
        .CommandType = adCmdStoredProc
        .CommandText = "stp_004C_Insert"
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@CaseNumberID", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Nz(Me.txtCaseNumberID, 0))
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@MachineID", adGUID,
adParamInput, , Me.txtMachineID)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@LoginID", adVarChar,
adParamInput, 50, fOSUserName())
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@ContactAddrID", adGUID,
adParamInput, , Me.txtContactAddrID)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@ReasonID", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.cboReason)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@Type", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.cboType)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@Unneccessary", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.chkUnnecessary)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@FailCodeID", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.cboFailCode)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@Status", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.chkCloseCall)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@CallNotes", adVarChar,
adParamInput, 1000, Me.txtCallNotes)
        .Execute , lngAffected
        .ActiveConnection = Nothing
    End With

More helpful tips on using ADO w/ Sql can be found here..
http://www.able-consulting.com/ADO_Faq.htm

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Monday, July 21, 2003 7:59 AM [GMT-8],
paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:

: To all,
:
: we have a high turnover of staff, mainly because most are casual
: workers and don't want full-time employment.  When a member of staff
: leaves we issue them with a finish date.  However if they decide they
: want to come back we need to re-employ them with a new payroll
: number, I have a re-employ button that asks the user for the new
: payroll number...but here is where I need help : I then need to
: create an identical personnel record (66 fields to the one shown on
: screen) but with the new payroll number.
:
: My front-end is Visual Basic 6 and my back-end is SQL Server 7.0.  I
: thought the easiest way would be to create an insert stored procedure
: with parameters and then execute it from VB, so I created the SP and
: ran it using Query Analyser (Worked Fine), I also added it to my
: dataenvironment as a command.  However when I type
: DEGenSQL.sp_Personnel_ReEmploy I get no option to enter any of the
: parameters and if I try RUN/Start With Full Compile I get the
: following error message :
:
: Compile Error : Subscript Out Of Range
:
: This makes me think there are too many parameters required.
:
: Has anyone else come across this, or does anyone know of a better way
: to go about this.
:
: Paul Hartland
:
: __________________________________________________________________________
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Mon Jul 21 10:21:27 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:21:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: [dba-SQLServer]Copying a record VB6 & SQL Server 7.0
References: <20030721145954.RCHZ18716.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost>
Message-ID: <004801c34f9b$c1fbb690$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

Paul,
  it has been my experiance that when you have a long series of parameters,
it is often best to pass them back using a command object.  something along
the line the following

Dim Cmd As adodb.Command, lngAffected As Long
Set Cmd = New adodb.Command
    With Cmd
        .ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
        .CommandType = adCmdStoredProc
        .CommandText = "stp_004C_Insert"
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@CaseNumberID", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Nz(Me.txtCaseNumberID, 0))
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@MachineID", adGUID,
adParamInput, , Me.txtMachineID)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@LoginID", adVarChar,
adParamInput, 50, fOSUserName())
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@ContactAddrID", adGUID,
adParamInput, , Me.txtContactAddrID)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@ReasonID", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.cboReason)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@Type", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.cboType)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@Unneccessary", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.chkUnnecessary)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@FailCodeID", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.cboFailCode)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@Status", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.chkCloseCall)
        .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@CallNotes", adVarChar,
adParamInput, 1000, Me.txtCallNotes)
        .Execute , lngAffected
        .ActiveConnection = Nothing
    End With

More helpful tips on using ADO w/ Sql can be found here..
http://www.able-consulting.com/ADO_Faq.htm

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Monday, July 21, 2003 7:59 AM [GMT-8],
paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:

: To all,
:
: we have a high turnover of staff, mainly because most are casual
: workers and don't want full-time employment.  When a member of staff
: leaves we issue them with a finish date.  However if they decide they
: want to come back we need to re-employ them with a new payroll
: number, I have a re-employ button that asks the user for the new
: payroll number...but here is where I need help : I then need to
: create an identical personnel record (66 fields to the one shown on
: screen) but with the new payroll number.
:
: My front-end is Visual Basic 6 and my back-end is SQL Server 7.0.  I
: thought the easiest way would be to create an insert stored procedure
: with parameters and then execute it from VB, so I created the SP and
: ran it using Query Analyser (Worked Fine), I also added it to my
: dataenvironment as a command.  However when I type
: DEGenSQL.sp_Personnel_ReEmploy I get no option to enter any of the
: parameters and if I try RUN/Start With Full Compile I get the
: following error message :
:
: Compile Error : Subscript Out Of Range
:
: This makes me think there are too many parameters required.
:
: Has anyone else come across this, or does anyone know of a better way
: to go about this.
:
: Paul Hartland
:
: __________________________________________________________________________
: Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/
:
: Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for
: Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
:
:
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jul 23 09:06:45 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:06:45 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]
	Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to controls on forms
	(VB6 & SQL)
Message-ID: <20030723140646.URIV18716.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

To all,

I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database (which is on a development server), and I am using a mixture of DataEnvironment and ADO Controls for the application.  However when it's finshed It will be moved to the live server so that everyone can gain access to it.  The problem being that when I move to the live server I will have to remember to change all the ADO controls and the DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want to have to do this if I can help it).

What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the ConnectionString, Username & Password and then a table of all the form names and ADO Controls, and somehow looping through the tables and setting the connections automatically.  This is where I am stuck, I have created the tables and entered the connection strings etc, and I can do the loop which will loop through the records, but I don;t know how to set the connection strings, using the form names and ADO Controls from the tables.

Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?

Is there a better way to do this ?

Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?

Thanks for any help in advance....

Paul Hartland


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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jul 23 09:06:45 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:06:45 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] 
	Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to controls on forms
	(VB6 & SQL)
Message-ID: <20030723140646.URIV18716.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

To all,

I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database (which is on a development server), and I am using a mixture of DataEnvironment and ADO Controls for the application.  However when it's finshed It will be moved to the live server so that everyone can gain access to it.  The problem being that when I move to the live server I will have to remember to change all the ADO controls and the DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want to have to do this if I can help it).

What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the ConnectionString, Username & Password and then a table of all the form names and ADO Controls, and somehow looping through the tables and setting the connections automatically.  This is where I am stuck, I have created the tables and entered the connection strings etc, and I can do the loop which will loop through the records, but I don;t know how to set the connection strings, using the form names and ADO Controls from the tables.

Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?

Is there a better way to do this ?

Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?

Thanks for any help in advance....

Paul Hartland


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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul 23 10:23:32 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:23:32 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords t
	o controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EDFCED@GUARDIAN_5>

http://www.sqlmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=19763&pg=1

Does this article help at all?

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:07 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to
controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)


To all,

I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database (which is on
a development server), and I am using a mixture of DataEnvironment and ADO
Controls for the application.  However when it's finshed It will be moved to
the live server so that everyone can gain access to it.  The problem being
that when I move to the live server I will have to remember to change all
the ADO controls and the DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want
to have to do this if I can help it).

What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the ConnectionString,
Username & Password and then a table of all the form names and ADO Controls,
and somehow looping through the tables and setting the connections
automatically.  This is where I am stuck, I have created the tables and
entered the connection strings etc, and I can do the loop which will loop
through the records, but I don;t know how to set the connection strings,
using the form names and ADO Controls from the tables.

Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?

Is there a better way to do this ?

Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?

Thanks for any help in advance....

Paul Hartland


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From jcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 23 09:40:16 2003
From: jcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jcolby at colbyconsulting.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:40:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] Auto Supply Connection strings and
	passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
In-Reply-To: <20030723140646.URIV18716.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIEIIEHAA.jcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Paul,

Could you CC the other lists instead of putting all the list names in the
To.  I have rules that sort things out into mail boxes and it appears that
the message server transmits the message several times (or maybe you're
doing that?).  I use a crude if [AccessD] is in the subject and...

for example in my VB folder I have FIVE copies of the message with the
following in the subject:

[dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] Auto Supply Connection strings and
passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
[dba-VB] [AccessD] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and
passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
[dba-VB] [AccessD] Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to controls
on forms(VB6 & SQL)
[dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to
controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
[dba-VB] Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to controls on
forms(VB6 & SQL)

I am getting 2 copies in my AccessD folder as well as a copy in SQL Server
folder and FIVE copies in my Access-VBA folder.  I think if you put just the
one list name you are sending to, plus the other list names in CC perhaps
this wouldn't happen.

I can't tell you precisely what is going on but I can tell you I got a grand
total of EIGHT copies of this message.

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:07 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] Auto Supply Connection strings and
passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)


To all,

I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database (which is on
a development server), and I am using a mixture of DataEnvironment and ADO
Controls for the application.  However when it's finshed It will be moved to
the live server so that everyone can gain access to it.  The problem being
that when I move to the live server I will have to remember to change all
the ADO controls and the DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want
to have to do this if I can help it).

What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the ConnectionString,
Username & Password and then a table of all the form names and ADO Controls,
and somehow looping through the tables and setting the connections
automatically.  This is where I am stuck, I have created the tables and
entered the connection strings etc, and I can do the loop which will loop
through the records, but I don;t know how to set the connection strings,
using the form names and ADO Controls from the tables.

Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?

Is there a better way to do this ?

Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?

Thanks for any help in advance....

Paul Hartland


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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jul 23 09:50:42 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:50:42 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] Auto Supply Connection strings and
	passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
Message-ID: <20030723145042.VSXK28680.fep03-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

John,

Very sorry about that, I will do from now on.....

Paul

From: <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Date: Wed 23/Jul/2003 14:40 GMT
To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] Auto Supply Connection strings and
	passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)

Paul,

Could you CC the other lists instead of putting all the list names in the
To.  I have rules that sort things out into mail boxes and it appears that
the message server transmits the message several times (or maybe you're
doing that?).  I use a crude if [AccessD] is in the subject and...

for example in my VB folder I have FIVE copies of the message with the
following in the subject:

[dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] Auto Supply Connection strings and
passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
[dba-VB] [AccessD] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and
passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
[dba-VB] [AccessD] Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to controls
on forms(VB6 & SQL)
[dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to
controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
[dba-VB] Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to controls on
forms(VB6 & SQL)

I am getting 2 copies in my AccessD folder as well as a copy in SQL Server
folder and FIVE copies in my Access-VBA folder.  I think if you put just the
one list name you are sending to, plus the other list names in CC perhaps
this wouldn't happen.

I can't tell you precisely what is going on but I can tell you I got a grand
total of EIGHT copies of this message.

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:07 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer][AccessD] Auto Supply Connection strings and
passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)


To all,

I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database (which is on
a development server), and I am using a mixture of DataEnvironment and ADO
Controls for the application.  However when it's finshed It will be moved to
the live server so that everyone can gain access to it.  The problem being
that when I move to the live server I will have to remember to change all
the ADO controls and the DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want
to have to do this if I can help it).

What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the ConnectionString,
Username & Password and then a table of all the form names and ADO Controls,
and somehow looping through the tables and setting the connections
automatically.  This is where I am stuck, I have created the tables and
entered the connection strings etc, and I can do the loop which will loop
through the records, but I don;t know how to set the connection strings,
using the form names and ADO Controls from the tables.

Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?

Is there a better way to do this ?

Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?

Thanks for any help in advance....

Paul Hartland


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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jul 23 10:57:22 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:57:22 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
Message-ID: <20030723155723.WFR12458.fep10-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

To all,

I have a VB6 application which uses the dataenvironment to link to a Access2002 database, and I use command objects connnected to the dataenvironment which update, delete & insert records.....

Is there anyway I can get the count of how many rows have been affected

Thanks in advance for you help

Paul Hartland

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jul 23 10:57:22 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:57:22 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]
	[AccessD] Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
Message-ID: <20030723155723.WFR12458.fep10-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

To all,

I have a VB6 application which uses the dataenvironment to link to a Access2002 database, and I use command objects connnected to the dataenvironment which update, delete & insert records.....

Is there anyway I can get the count of how many rows have been affected

Thanks in advance for you help

Paul Hartland

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From Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com  Wed Jul 23 11:05:04 2003
From: Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com (Djabarov, Robert)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:05:04 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to
	controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
Message-ID: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D24EBC3B@ex02.eagle.usaa.com>

I resolved it by doing the following:

	- The app has a logon screen that has UID, PWD, SRV, DB, and
Network Library.  All values are "memorizable" except for the password
(SaveSetting/GetSetting)
	- If logon successful, - I check for the presence of a specific
set of objects in the database that was specified at the logon.  If this
set is missing or incomplete, - app terminates, otherwise you're in.

The ConnectionString gets built based on values mentioned for the logon
screen and become part of clsADO class that controls all data-related
activity.  Once I implemented this very simple "architecture", I never
worry about where my back-end lives.  All the user needs to do is
specify new server and new database (if different) to be able to connect
along with their new user ID and new password (again, if different).
The next time they logon only the password needs to be retyped.

	Robert Djabarov
	* (210) 913-3148 - phone
	* (210) 753-3148 - pager


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:07 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to
controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)

To all,

I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database (which
is on a development server), and I am using a mixture of DataEnvironment
and ADO Controls for the application.  However when it's finshed It will
be moved to the live server so that everyone can gain access to it.  The
problem being that when I move to the live server I will have to
remember to change all the ADO controls and the DataEnvironment
connection manually (I don't want to have to do this if I can help it).

What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the
ConnectionString, Username & Password and then a table of all the form
names and ADO Controls, and somehow looping through the tables and
setting the connections automatically.  This is where I am stuck, I have
created the tables and entered the connection strings etc, and I can do
the loop which will loop through the records, but I don;t know how to
set the connection strings, using the form names and ADO Controls from
the tables.

Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?

Is there a better way to do this ?

Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?

Thanks for any help in advance....

Paul Hartland


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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 23 11:44:59 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:44:59 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
Message-ID: <BAY1-F108v3IJPkrkHA000151d6@hotmail.com>

Create an "after insert, update, delete trigger" on the table you want to 
monitor that will count the number of records in the "inserted" or "deleted" 
table and insert that number into a new log table.

Look up "CREATE TRIGGER" in BOL for more info.

HTH
Billy

>From: <paul.hartland at fsmail.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>CC: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com, dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
>Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:57:22 +0000
>
>To all,
>
>I have a VB6 application which uses the dataenvironment to link to a 
>Access2002 database, and I use command objects connnected to the 
>dataenvironment which update, delete & insert records.....
>
>Is there anyway I can get the count of how many rows have been affected
>
>Thanks in advance for you help
>
>Paul Hartland
>
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Wed Jul 23 15:30:30 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:30:30 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
References: <20030723155723.WFR12458.fep10-svc.ttys.com@localhost>
Message-ID: <001c01c35159$43133fa0$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

Paul I'm reposting my previous message, if you check out the variable
lngAffected it spits out the number of records affected just use that or
pass it to what ever msgbox/prompt or screens you need.
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Francisco H Tapia
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:21 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; AccessD
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Copying a record VB6 & SQL Server 7.0

Paul,
it has been my experiance that when you have a long series of parameters,
it is often best to pass them back using a command object. something along
the line the following
Dim Cmd As adodb.Command, lngAffected As Long
Set Cmd = New adodb.Command
With Cmd
.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
.CommandType = adCmdStoredProc
.CommandText = "stp_004C_Insert"
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@CaseNumberID", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Nz(Me.txtCaseNumberID, 0))
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@MachineID", adGUID,
adParamInput, , Me.txtMachineID)
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@LoginID", adVarChar,
adParamInput, 50, fOSUserName())
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@ContactAddrID", adGUID,
adParamInput, , Me.txtContactAddrID)
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@ReasonID", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.cboReason)
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@Type", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.cboType)
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@Unneccessary", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.chkUnnecessary)
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@FailCodeID", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.cboFailCode)
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@Status", adInteger,
adParamInput, , Me.chkCloseCall)
.Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("@CallNotes", adVarChar,
adParamInput, 1000, Me.txtCallNotes)
.Execute , lngAffected
.ActiveConnection = Nothing
End With
More helpful tips on using ADO w/ Sql can be found here..
http://www.able-consulting.com/ADO_Faq.htm
-Francisco
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On Monday, July 21, 2003 7:59 AM [GMT-8],
paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:
: To all,
:
: we have a high turnover of staff, mainly because most are casual
: workers and don't want full-time employment. When a member of staff
: leaves we issue them with a finish date. However if they decide they
: want to come back we need to re-employ them with a new payroll
: number, I have a re-employ button that asks the user for the new
: payroll number...but here is where I need help : I then need to
: create an identical personnel record (66 fields to the one shown on
: screen) but with the new payroll number.
:
: My front-end is Visual Basic 6 and my back-end is SQL Server 7.0. I
: thought the easiest way would be to create an insert stored procedure
: with parameters and then execute it from VB, so I created the SP and
: ran it using Query Analyser (Worked Fine), I also added it to my
: dataenvironment as a command. However when I type
: DEGenSQL.sp_Personnel_ReEmploy I get no option to enter any of the
: parameters and if I try RUN/Start With Full Compile I get the
: following error message :
:
: Compile Error : Subscript Out Of Range
:
: This makes me think there are too many parameters required.
:
: Has anyone else come across this, or does anyone know of a better way
: to go about this.
:
: Paul Hartland


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On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:57 AM [GMT-8],
paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:

: To all,
:
: I have a VB6 application which uses the dataenvironment to link to a
: Access2002 database, and I use command objects connnected to the
: dataenvironment which update, delete & insert records.....
:
: Is there anyway I can get the count of how many rows have been
: affected
:
: Thanks in advance for you help
:
: Paul Hartland
:
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 23 15:50:15 2003
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:50:15 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
In-Reply-To: <20030723155723.WFR12458.fep10-svc.ttys.com@localhost>
Message-ID: <000001c3515c$050d3aa0$8e01a8c0@Rock>

Why am I getting about 6 copies of every message you send, Paul?

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: July 23, 2003 11:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc


To all,

I have a VB6 application which uses the dataenvironment to link to a
Access2002 database, and I use command objects connnected to the
dataenvironment which update, delete & insert records.....

Is there anyway I can get the count of how many rows have been affected

Thanks in advance for you help

Paul Hartland


From jcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 23 16:38:29 2003
From: jcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jcolby at colbyconsulting.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:38:29 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
In-Reply-To: <000001c3515c$050d3aa0$8e01a8c0@Rock>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEJKEHAA.jcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

You too?

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:50 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert
etc


Why am I getting about 6 copies of every message you send, Paul?

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: July 23, 2003 11:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc


To all,

I have a VB6 application which uses the dataenvironment to link to a
Access2002 database, and I use command objects connnected to the
dataenvironment which update, delete & insert records.....

Is there anyway I can get the count of how many rows have been affected

Thanks in advance for you help

Paul Hartland

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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 24 00:50:31 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:50:31 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
Message-ID: <BAY1-F104AarwgAP93s00001286@hotmail.com>

just to let you know that I only received it once.




>From: <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
>Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:38:29 -0400
>
>You too?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.colbyconsulting.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur
>Fuller
>Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:50 PM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert
>etc
>
>
>Why am I getting about 6 copies of every message you send, Paul?
>
>Arthur
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>paul.hartland at fsmail.net
>Sent: July 23, 2003 11:57 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Cc: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
>
>
>To all,
>
>I have a VB6 application which uses the dataenvironment to link to a
>Access2002 database, and I use command objects connnected to the
>dataenvironment which update, delete & insert records.....
>
>Is there anyway I can get the count of how many rows have been affected
>
>Thanks in advance for you help
>
>Paul Hartland
>
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Jul 24 03:13:05 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 8:13:05 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords
	to	controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
Message-ID: <20030724081305.BOWP12458.fep10-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

Although, you are making this sound really simple.....could I sse some sample code to get me started etc, I can build the connection string no problem, but whats clsADO and how does it control all data-related activity....??

Paul


From: "Djabarov, Robert" <Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com>
Date: Wed 23/Jul/2003 16:05 GMT
To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to
	controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)

I resolved it by doing the following:

	- The app has a logon screen that has UID, PWD, SRV, DB, and
Network Library.  All values are "memorizable" except for the password
(SaveSetting/GetSetting)
	- If logon successful, - I check for the presence of a specific
set of objects in the database that was specified at the logon.  If this
set is missing or incomplete, - app terminates, otherwise you're in.

The ConnectionString gets built based on values mentioned for the logon
screen and become part of clsADO class that controls all data-related
activity.  Once I implemented this very simple "architecture", I never
worry about where my back-end lives.  All the user needs to do is
specify new server and new database (if different) to be able to connect
along with their new user ID and new password (again, if different).
The next time they logon only the password needs to be retyped.

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-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:07 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to
controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)

To all,

I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database (which
is on a development server), and I am using a mixture of DataEnvironment
and ADO Controls for the application.  However when it's finshed It will
be moved to the live server so that everyone can gain access to it.  The
problem being that when I move to the live server I will have to
remember to change all the ADO controls and the DataEnvironment
connection manually (I don't want to have to do this if I can help it).

What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the
ConnectionString, Username & Password and then a table of all the form
names and ADO Controls, and somehow looping through the tables and
setting the connections automatically.  This is where I am stuck, I have
created the tables and entered the connection strings etc, and I can do
the loop which will loop through the records, but I don;t know how to
set the connection strings, using the form names and ADO Controls from
the tables.

Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?

Is there a better way to do this ?

Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?

Thanks for any help in advance....

Paul Hartland


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From DMcAfee at haascnc.com  Wed Jul 23 17:49:02 2003
From: DMcAfee at haascnc.com (David McAfee)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:49:02 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
Message-ID: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C1801026D7ABD@EXCHMAIL>

If you're using Outlook it is most likely a rule that you have set up.

I sent a post (one time) to Access-D earlier (cross posted to Access-L) I
must have received 6 copies. 

If you have a rule set up that "moves" a message beased on content and that
content fills various rules, outlook seems to make multiple copies if those
messages.


David

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:38 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert
etc


You too?

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:50 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert
etc


Why am I getting about 6 copies of every message you send, Paul?

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: July 23, 2003 11:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc


To all,

I have a VB6 application which uses the dataenvironment to link to a
Access2002 database, and I use command objects connnected to the
dataenvironment which update, delete & insert records.....

Is there anyway I can get the count of how many rows have been affected

Thanks in advance for you help

Paul Hartland

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From my.lists at verizon.net  Thu Jul 24 09:28:18 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:28:18 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
References: <BAY1-F104AarwgAP93s00001286@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c351ef$d45e4f90$fd512304@amd2k>

Paul's already mentioned that he's going to only send his emails to one
list, I think the reason JC received it multiple times is because he is
signed up to almost all the lists ;o) btw, i reveceived it about 6 times too
many as well.



-Francisco
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On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:50 PM [GMT -8],
Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:

: just to let you know that I only received it once.
:
:
:
:
:: From: <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
:: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
:: Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update,
:: insert etc Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:38:29 -0400
::
:: You too?
::
:: John W. Colby
:: www.colbyconsulting.com
::
:: -----Original Message-----
:: From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
:: [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
:: Arthur Fuller
:: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:50 PM
:: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:: Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert
:: etc
::
::
:: Why am I getting about 6 copies of every message you send, Paul?
::
:: Arthur
::
:: -----Original Message-----
:: From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
:: [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
:: paul.hartland at fsmail.net
:: Sent: July 23, 2003 11:57 AM
:: To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
:: Cc: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Number of rows affected by update, insert etc
::
::
:: To all,
::
:: I have a VB6 application which uses the dataenvironment to link to a
:: Access2002 database, and I use command objects connnected to the
:: dataenvironment which update, delete & insert records.....
::
:: Is there anyway I can get the count of how many rows have been
:: affected
::
:: Thanks in advance for you help
::
:: Paul Hartland
::
:: _______________________________________________
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 24 10:48:04 2003
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:48:04 -0400
Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and
	passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
In-Reply-To: <20030723140646.URIV18716.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost>
Message-ID: <000601c351fa$f8795180$8e01a8c0@Rock>

Although retrofitting it might be a little work, why don't you define the
connection string as a constant? Then you could find and replace all the
literal occurrences

"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." 
-- Benjamin Franklin 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: July 23, 2003 10:07 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and
passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)


To all,

I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database (which is on
a development server), and I am using a mixture of DataEnvironment and ADO
Controls for the application.  However when it's finshed It will be moved to
the live server so that everyone can gain access to it.  The problem being
that when I move to the live server I will have to remember to change all
the ADO controls and the DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want
to have to do this if I can help it).

What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the ConnectionString,
Username & Password and then a table of all the form names and ADO Controls,
and somehow looping through the tables and setting the connections
automatically.  This is where I am stuck, I have created the tables and
entered the connection strings etc, and I can do the loop which will loop
through the records, but I don;t know how to set the connection strings,
using the form names and ADO Controls from the tables.

Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?

Is there a better way to do this ?

Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?

Thanks for any help in advance....

Paul Hartland


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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Jul 24 10:49:06 2003
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:49:06 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]
	Have SS7 send out e-mails where recipients are retrieved from a t
	able
Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E239445@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I have a stored procedure that returns users with their e-mail addresses
that need to perform a task.
I would like to know if there is some way to have SS7 use this recordset
internally to send an E-Mail to each of the people in the recordset.
To top it off, I would like SS7 to perform this take at scheduled intervals.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
Joe R.




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From my.lists at verizon.net  Thu Jul 24 10:57:19 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:57:19 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Have SS7 send out e-mails where recipients are
	retrieved from a table
References: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E239445@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c351fc$438abc80$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

you can email this out... you can either use Blat or CDO's or SqlMail, I use
blat.  Check books online for the SqlMail Method and
www.sqlservercentral.com has scripts for doing this via CDO's (the
registration is free and the only mail the send you is their newsletter w/
articles and a ton of useful hints and tips).

If you'd like to try your hand at using blat (which is a command line smtp
email client) let me know and I'll post that script.

oh, before I forget you'll also have to step through your output so look up
cursors as well, and be careful to leave them open, always explicitly
deallocate them when you're done.


-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:49 AM [GMT-8],
Joe Rojas <JRojas at tnco-inc.com> wrote:

: Hi All,
:
: I have a stored procedure that returns users with their e-mail
: addresses that need to perform a task.
: I would like to know if there is some way to have SS7 use this
: recordset internally to send an E-Mail to each of the people in the
: recordset.
: To top it off, I would like SS7 to perform this take at scheduled
: intervals.
:
: Any suggestions?
:
: Thanks!
: Joe R.
:
:
:
:
: This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc.
: and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information
: which is covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you
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: addressee to receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Thu Jul 24 10:59:32 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:59:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings
	andpasswords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
References: <000601c351fa$f8795180$8e01a8c0@Rock>
Message-ID: <002401c351fc$92c50620$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

I second Arthur's suggestion along w/ maybe get a little bit of sleep ;o).
Having constants w/ the connection string is so nice cuz you can modify the
connection string in one place only.

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:48 AM [GMT-8],
Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:

: Although retrofitting it might be a little work, why don't you define
: the connection string as a constant? Then you could find and replace
: all the literal occurrences
:
: "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
: -- Benjamin Franklin
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
: [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
: paul.hartland at fsmail.net
: Sent: July 23, 2003 10:07 AM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
: Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and
: passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
:
:
: To all,
:
: I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database
: (which is on a development server), and I am using a mixture of
: DataEnvironment and ADO Controls for the application.  However when
: it's finshed It will be moved to the live server so that everyone can
: gain access to it.  The problem being that when I move to the live
: server I will have to remember to change all the ADO controls and the
: DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want to have to do this
: if I can help it).
:
: What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the
: ConnectionString, Username & Password and then a table of all the
: form names and ADO Controls, and somehow looping through the tables
: and setting the connections automatically.  This is where I am stuck,
: I have created the tables and entered the connection strings etc, and
: I can do the loop which will loop through the records, but I don;t
: know how to set the connection strings, using the form names and ADO
: Controls from the tables.
:
: Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?
:
: Is there a better way to do this ?
:
: Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?
:
: Thanks for any help in advance....
:
: Paul Hartland
:
:
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From jcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jul 24 11:03:54 2003
From: jcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jcolby at colbyconsulting.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:03:54 -0400
Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection
	stringsandpasswords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
In-Reply-To: <002401c351fc$92c50620$b615010a@FHTAPIA>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCELEEHAA.jcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

SysVars!!!!!  Constants are ok for things like the days of the week, but for
things that change, it should be table driven!!!

We are database people.

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Francisco H Tapia
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:00 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection
stringsandpasswords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)


I second Arthur's suggestion along w/ maybe get a little bit of sleep ;o).
Having constants w/ the connection string is so nice cuz you can modify the
connection string in one place only.

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:48 AM [GMT-8],
Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:

: Although retrofitting it might be a little work, why don't you define
: the connection string as a constant? Then you could find and replace
: all the literal occurrences
:
: "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
: -- Benjamin Franklin
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
: [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
: paul.hartland at fsmail.net
: Sent: July 23, 2003 10:07 AM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
: Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and
: passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
:
:
: To all,
:
: I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database
: (which is on a development server), and I am using a mixture of
: DataEnvironment and ADO Controls for the application.  However when
: it's finshed It will be moved to the live server so that everyone can
: gain access to it.  The problem being that when I move to the live
: server I will have to remember to change all the ADO controls and the
: DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want to have to do this
: if I can help it).
:
: What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the
: ConnectionString, Username & Password and then a table of all the
: form names and ADO Controls, and somehow looping through the tables
: and setting the connections automatically.  This is where I am stuck,
: I have created the tables and entered the connection strings etc, and
: I can do the loop which will loop through the records, but I don;t
: know how to set the connection strings, using the form names and ADO
: Controls from the tables.
:
: Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?
:
: Is there a better way to do this ?
:
: Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?
:
: Thanks for any help in advance....
:
: Paul Hartland
:
:
: __________________________________________________________________________
: Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/
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From sgeller at cce.umn.edu  Thu Jul 24 14:00:15 2003
From: sgeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Geller)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:00:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Listbox truncating stored procedure data
Message-ID: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01119E76@ccemail2.cce.local>

I have a listbox whose recordsource is a sproc.  The sproc works fine
even when run from Access.  The listbox has an invisible column that
contains a long text string, up to a couple of paragraphs in length.
The listbox is only holding the first couple of lines even though the
sproc returns the whole thing.  I can work around this by getting at the
data in another way, but I'm wondering if this is a bug of some kind?

Access XP

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568



From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us  Thu Jul 24 14:10:48 2003
From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:10:48 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Listbox truncating stored procedure data
Message-ID: <D859A1A91D36184C8C28B77BF899C08609F878F6@ladybird.tea.state.tx.us>

Susan,

Access has limits on character string length.  Your strings may be
exceeding one of these limits.  All Access objects do not have Long
Integer, or even Integer, position counters.  Some only have a byte
length counter.

Charles Wortz
Software Development Division
Texas Education Agency
1701 N. Congress Ave
Austin, TX 78701-1494
512-463-9493
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Geller [mailto:sgeller at cce.umn.edu] 
Sent: Thursday 2003 Jul 24 14:00
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Listbox truncating stored procedure data


I have a listbox whose recordsource is a sproc.  The sproc works fine
even when run from Access.  The listbox has an invisible column that
contains a long text string, up to a couple of paragraphs in length. The
listbox is only holding the first couple of lines even though the sproc
returns the whole thing.  I can work around this by getting at the data
in another way, but I'm wondering if this is a bug of some kind?

Access XP

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568

From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jul 25 04:00:33 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 9:00:33 +0000
Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings
	andpasswords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
Message-ID: <20030725090033.NFMG12389.fep02-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

Any chance of anyone sending me some sample code of this, including how I tell the ADO Controls to use the connection string, I juts can't get my head round this one for some reason.....

Thanks in advance..

Paul Hartland


From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
Date: Thu 24/Jul/2003 15:59 GMT
To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings
	andpasswords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)

I second Arthur's suggestion along w/ maybe get a little bit of sleep ;o).
Having constants w/ the connection string is so nice cuz you can modify the
connection string in one place only.

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:48 AM [GMT-8],
Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:

: Although retrofitting it might be a little work, why don't you define
: the connection string as a constant? Then you could find and replace
: all the literal occurrences
:
: "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
: -- Benjamin Franklin
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
: [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
: paul.hartland at fsmail.net
: Sent: July 23, 2003 10:07 AM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
: Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and
: passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
:
:
: To all,
:
: I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database
: (which is on a development server), and I am using a mixture of
: DataEnvironment and ADO Controls for the application.  However when
: it's finshed It will be moved to the live server so that everyone can
: gain access to it.  The problem being that when I move to the live
: server I will have to remember to change all the ADO controls and the
: DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want to have to do this
: if I can help it).
:
: What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the
: ConnectionString, Username & Password and then a table of all the
: form names and ADO Controls, and somehow looping through the tables
: and setting the connections automatically.  This is where I am stuck,
: I have created the tables and entered the connection strings etc, and
: I can do the loop which will loop through the records, but I don;t
: know how to set the connection strings, using the form names and ADO
: Controls from the tables.
:
: Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?
:
: Is there a better way to do this ?
:
: Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?
:
: Thanks for any help in advance....
:
: Paul Hartland
:
:
: __________________________________________________________________________
: Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Fri Jul 25 14:06:46 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:06:46 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection stringsandpasswords to
	controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
References: <20030725090033.NFMG12389.fep02-svc.ttys.com@localhost>
Message-ID: <002701c352df$e4e84dc0$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

a connection string can be generated using a udl file (to that go to your
desktop (or any folder really)) create a text file and rename it to udl then
click it and set the connections to your db.  now rename it again to a .txt
file.

use this connection string and simply in a module somewhere and create a
public constant

CONST myConnStr as string = "your connection string"


for your ado objects you'll need to create a connection object and set it to
your ado objects such as


Dim conn as adodb.connection
set conn = new adodb.connection
conn.open myConnStr 'Your connection string

then it's just a matter of setting your recordsets to it

I personnally don't like the dataenvironment variable cuz it tends to cause
more problems than help but that's just mho.

most objects you can just set the connection by setting it as

rst.activeconnection = Conn 'after following the above connection object
settings

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Friday, July 25, 2003 2:00 AM [GMT-8],
paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:

: Any chance of anyone sending me some sample code of this, including
: how I tell the ADO Controls to use the connection string, I juts
: can't get my head round this one for some reason.....
:
: Thanks in advance..
:
: Paul Hartland
:
:
: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
: Date: Thu 24/Jul/2003 15:59 GMT
: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
: Subject: Re: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings
: andpasswords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
:
: I second Arthur's suggestion along w/ maybe get a little bit of sleep
: ;o).
: Having constants w/ the connection string is so nice cuz you can
: modify the
: connection string in one place only.
:
: -Francisco
: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:
: On Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:48 AM [GMT-8],
: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
:
:: Although retrofitting it might be a little work, why don't you define
:: the connection string as a constant? Then you could find and replace
:: all the literal occurrences
::
:: "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
:: -- Benjamin Franklin
::
:: -----Original Message-----
:: From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
:: [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
:: paul.hartland at fsmail.net
:: Sent: July 23, 2003 10:07 AM
:: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
:: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
:: Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and
:: passwords to controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
::
::
:: To all,
::
:: I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database
:: (which is on a development server), and I am using a mixture of
:: DataEnvironment and ADO Controls for the application.  However when
:: it's finshed It will be moved to the live server so that everyone can
:: gain access to it.  The problem being that when I move to the live
:: server I will have to remember to change all the ADO controls and the
:: DataEnvironment connection manually (I don't want to have to do this
:: if I can help it).
::
:: What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the
:: ConnectionString, Username & Password and then a table of all the
:: form names and ADO Controls, and somehow looping through the tables
:: and setting the connections automatically.  This is where I am stuck,
:: I have created the tables and entered the connection strings etc, and
:: I can do the loop which will loop through the records, but I don;t
:: know how to set the connection strings, using the form names and ADO
:: Controls from the tables.
::
:: Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?
::
:: Is there a better way to do this ?
::
:: Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?
::
:: Thanks for any help in advance....
::
:: Paul Hartland
::
::
::
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Mon Jul 28 04:11:59 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 9:11:59 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]ADO Control With Stored Procedure as Recordset
Message-ID: <20030728091159.SGIT12389.fep02-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

To all,

I have a SQL Server 7.0 BE, with a Visual Basic 6 FE.  In SQl Server 7.0 I have a stored procedure which requires two parameters (Payroll, JobDate) and this returns all the jobs that a person is programmed to do.  On my VB6 FE I have a form with a DataGrid and an ADO Control, with the Datagrid pointing to the ADO Control for it's datasource.  When the form opens I want to pass the payroll and jobdate to the SQL Server stored procedure and return the results to the ADO Control which will then be displayed in the DataGrid.

Is there anyone out there that can tell me how to do this, or has some sample code that I could look at to show me exactly how this can be acheived.

Thanks in advance.

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Mon Jul 28 04:11:59 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 9:11:59 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]
	[AccessD] ADO Control With Stored Procedure as Recordset
Message-ID: <20030728091159.SGIT12389.fep02-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

To all,

I have a SQL Server 7.0 BE, with a Visual Basic 6 FE.  In SQl Server 7.0 I have a stored procedure which requires two parameters (Payroll, JobDate) and this returns all the jobs that a person is programmed to do.  On my VB6 FE I have a form with a DataGrid and an ADO Control, with the Datagrid pointing to the ADO Control for it's datasource.  When the form opens I want to pass the payroll and jobdate to the SQL Server stored procedure and return the results to the ADO Control which will then be displayed in the DataGrid.

Is there anyone out there that can tell me how to do this, or has some sample code that I could look at to show me exactly how this can be acheived.

Thanks in advance.

Paul Hartland

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From my.lists at verizon.net  Mon Jul 28 18:01:33 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
Message-ID: <003a01c3555c$30abe630$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.  In fact I
created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run fine in QA.  In an ADP
that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would be different?

In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.

The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them stp_New and
stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since today 12:00am, and the Old
checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.

If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data for stp_New
but it does give me the correct results for stp_Old.  If I go to QA I can
run either sproc and they both execute correctly.  I am at a loss about this
one... anyone ever run into something similar?

This is my code...

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls (@LoginID
NVARCHAR(50)) AS

SET NOCOUNT ON
Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as uniqueidentifier
SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
       CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
       CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
       CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + ' 00:00:00'
   AS DATETIME)

IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
 DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
END
 CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
 ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
 [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
 [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
 INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
  Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
  LEFT OUTER JOIN
  (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
  ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME AND
HelpStatusID < 2)

IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
 DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
END
 CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
 ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
  [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
  [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
  [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
  [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)

 INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes, ContactAddrID,
entryTIME, entryUSER)
  Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID, A.entryTIME,
A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
  INNER JOIN
  (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
  ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME )



Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
  HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN dbo.tbl_Machine M
WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID

 LEFT OUTER JOIN
  (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
  ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID

 INNER JOIN
  (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS HelpDeskCallDetails
  ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID

 LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
 LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON CtcAddr.ContactID
= Ctc.ContactID
 LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON CtcAddr.AddrID =
Addr.AddrID
 LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON  Addr.CompanyID =
Co.CompanyID
 LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK) ON Addr.ZipID
= ZipList.ZipID

--THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA, but only the
OLD (<) runs in Access

Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser

ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC


IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
 DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
END
IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
 DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
END

SET NOCOUNT OFF


-Francisco
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 28 20:09:36 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 01:09:36 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
Message-ID: <BAY1-F122dOgl4rhYQY00009c3a@hotmail.com>

Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security authentication as 
ADP (eg. same login)?
also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?





>From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
>Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
>
>I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.  In fact I
>created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run fine in QA.  In an 
>ADP
>that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would be 
>different?
>
>In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
>
>The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them stp_New and
>stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since today 12:00am, and the 
>Old
>checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
>
>If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data for stp_New
>but it does give me the correct results for stp_Old.  If I go to QA I can
>run either sproc and they both execute correctly.  I am at a loss about 
>this
>one... anyone ever run into something similar?
>
>This is my code...
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----------------------------
>ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls (@LoginID
>NVARCHAR(50)) AS
>
>SET NOCOUNT ON
>Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as uniqueidentifier
>SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
>SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
>        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
>        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
>        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + ' 00:00:00'
>    AS DATETIME)
>
>IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
>  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
>END
>  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
>  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
>  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
>  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
>  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
>   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
>dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
>   LEFT OUTER JOIN
>   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
>dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
>   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME AND
>HelpStatusID < 2)
>
>IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
>  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
>END
>  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
>  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
>   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
>   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
>   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
>   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
>
>  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes, ContactAddrID,
>entryTIME, entryUSER)
>   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID, 
>A.entryTIME,
>A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
>   INNER JOIN
>   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
>dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
>   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME )
>
>
>
>Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
>Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
>   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
>HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
>FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN dbo.tbl_Machine M
>WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
>
>  LEFT OUTER JOIN
>   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
>   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
>
>  INNER JOIN
>   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS 
>HelpDeskCallDetails
>   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
>
>  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
>  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON 
>CtcAddr.ContactID
>= Ctc.ContactID
>  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON CtcAddr.AddrID =
>Addr.AddrID
>  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON  Addr.CompanyID =
>Co.CompanyID
>  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK) ON 
>Addr.ZipID
>= ZipList.ZipID
>
>--THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA, but only 
>the
>OLD (<) runs in Access
>
>Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
>HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
>
>ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
>
>
>IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
>  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
>END
>IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
>  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
>END
>
>SET NOCOUNT OFF
>
>
>-Francisco
>http://rcm.netfirms.com
>
>
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Jul 29 02:36:10 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:36:10 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
References: <BAY1-F122dOgl4rhYQY00009c3a@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c355a4$14fd7be0$fd512304@amd2k>

I'm running it as windows authentication at the moment for both QA and the
ADP, doh I did not think to use the profiler, I will check that next...

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com/

On Monday, July 28, 2003 6:09 PM [GMT -8],
Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:

: Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security
: authentication as ADP (eg. same login)?
: also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?
:
:
:
:
:
:: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
:: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:: To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
:: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
::
:: I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.  In
:: fact I created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run fine in
:: QA.  In an ADP
:: that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would be
:: different?
::
:: In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
::
:: The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them
:: stp_New and stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since today
:: 12:00am, and the Old
:: checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
::
:: If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data for
:: stp_New but it does give me the correct results for stp_Old.  If I
:: go to QA I can run either sproc and they both execute correctly.  I
:: am at a loss about this
:: one... anyone ever run into something similar?
::
:: This is my code...
::
:: -------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
:: ----------------------------
:: ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls (@LoginID
:: NVARCHAR(50)) AS
::
:: SET NOCOUNT ON
:: Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as uniqueidentifier
:: SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
:: SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
::        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
::        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
::        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '
::    00:00:00' AS DATETIME)
::
:: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
:: END
::  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
::  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
::  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
::  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
::  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
::   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
:: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
::   LEFT OUTER JOIN
::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
:: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME AND
:: HelpStatusID < 2)
::
:: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:: END
::  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
::   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
::   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
::   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
::   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
::
::  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes,
:: ContactAddrID, entryTIME, entryUSER)
::   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID,
:: A.entryTIME,
:: A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
::   INNER JOIN
::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
:: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME )
::
::
::
:: Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
:: Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
::   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
:: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
:: FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN dbo.tbl_Machine M
:: WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
::
::  LEFT OUTER JOIN
::   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
::
::  INNER JOIN
::   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS
:: HelpDeskCallDetails
::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
::
::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:: HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:: CtcAddr.ContactID
:: = Ctc.ContactID
::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:: CtcAddr.AddrID = Addr.AddrID
::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:: Addr.CompanyID = Co.CompanyID
::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:: Addr.ZipID
:: = ZipList.ZipID
::
:: --THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA, but
:: only the
:: OLD (<) runs in Access
::
:: Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
:: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
::
:: ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
::
::
:: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
:: END
:: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:: END
::
:: SET NOCOUNT OFF
::
::
:: -Francisco
:: http://rcm.netfirms.com
::
::
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Jul 29 04:05:33 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:05:33 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
References: <BAY1-F122dOgl4rhYQY00009c3a@hotmail.com>
	<003c01c355a4$14fd7be0$fd512304@amd2k>
Message-ID: <00db01c355b0$91b21cc0$fd512304@amd2k>

Billy,
  I took the adp, and the database home and updated my home sql developer
copy with the office copy of the server w/ no code changes and off the cuff
copy to my hdd from the office the adp now displays the record, Sql Server
2000 SP3, but at the office it still does not and it is the same version of
the db, and access adp.

this is most bazaar.


-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com/

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:36 AM [GMT -8],
Francisco Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:

: I'm running it as windows authentication at the moment for both QA
: and the ADP, doh I did not think to use the profiler, I will check
: that next...
:
: -Francisco
: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
:
: On Monday, July 28, 2003 6:09 PM [GMT -8],
: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
:
:: Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security
:: authentication as ADP (eg. same login)?
:: also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?
::
::
::
::
::
::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
::: To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
::: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
::: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
:::
::: I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.  In
::: fact I created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run fine in
::: QA.  In an ADP
::: that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would be
::: different?
:::
::: In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
:::
::: The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them
::: stp_New and stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since today
::: 12:00am, and the Old
::: checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
:::
::: If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data for
::: stp_New but it does give me the correct results for stp_Old.  If I
::: go to QA I can run either sproc and they both execute correctly.  I
::: am at a loss about this
::: one... anyone ever run into something similar?
:::
::: This is my code...
:::
::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
::: --- 
::: ----------------------------
::: ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls (@LoginID
::: NVARCHAR(50)) AS
:::
::: SET NOCOUNT ON
::: Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as uniqueidentifier
::: SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
::: SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
:::        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
:::        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
:::        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '
:::    00:00:00' AS DATETIME)
:::
::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
:::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
::: END
:::  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
:::  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
:::  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
:::  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
:::  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
:::   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
:::   LEFT OUTER JOIN
:::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
:::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME AND
::: HelpStatusID < 2)
:::
::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
:::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::: END
:::  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:::  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
:::   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
:::   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
:::   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
:::   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
:::
:::  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes,
::: ContactAddrID, entryTIME, entryUSER)
:::   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID,
::: A.entryTIME,
::: A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
:::   INNER JOIN
:::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
:::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME )
:::
:::
:::
::: Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
::: Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
:::   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
::: FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN dbo.tbl_Machine M
::: WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
:::
:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN
:::   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
:::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
:::
:::  INNER JOIN
:::   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS
::: HelpDeskCallDetails
:::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
:::
:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::: HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::: CtcAddr.ContactID
::: = Ctc.ContactID
:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::: CtcAddr.AddrID = Addr.AddrID
:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::: Addr.CompanyID = Co.CompanyID
:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::: Addr.ZipID
::: = ZipList.ZipID
:::
::: --THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA, but
::: only the
::: OLD (<) runs in Access
:::
::: Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
:::
::: ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
:::
:::
::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
:::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
::: END
::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
:::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::: END
:::
::: SET NOCOUNT OFF
:::
:::
::: -Francisco
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From Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com  Tue Jul 29 08:41:02 2003
From: Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com (Djabarov, Robert)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:41:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwordsto
	controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)
Message-ID: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D24EBC3C@ex02.eagle.usaa.com>

Dim rs as object
clsADO.OpenRS rs, "exec dbo.sp_AdjudicateClaim " & mClaimID, RSReadWrite
If clsADO.ADOErrorsFound Then Exit Sub 'Error message is displayed by
the class, so no need to do anything else here
clsADO.CloseRS rs


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:13 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and
passwordsto controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)

Although, you are making this sound really simple.....could I sse some
sample code to get me started etc, I can build the connection string no
problem, but whats clsADO and how does it control all data-related
activity....??

Paul


From: "Djabarov, Robert" <Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com>
Date: Wed 23/Jul/2003 16:05 GMT
To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords
to
	controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)

I resolved it by doing the following:

	- The app has a logon screen that has UID, PWD, SRV, DB, and
Network Library.  All values are "memorizable" except for the password
(SaveSetting/GetSetting)
	- If logon successful, - I check for the presence of a specific
set of objects in the database that was specified at the logon.  If this
set is missing or incomplete, - app terminates, otherwise you're in.

The ConnectionString gets built based on values mentioned for the logon
screen and become part of clsADO class that controls all data-related
activity.  Once I implemented this very simple "architecture", I never
worry about where my back-end lives.  All the user needs to do is
specify new server and new database (if different) to be able to connect
along with their new user ID and new password (again, if different).
The next time they logon only the password needs to be retyped.

	Robert Djabarov
	* (210) 913-3148 - phone
	* (210) 753-3148 - pager


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:07 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com;
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Auto Supply Connection strings and passwords to
controls on forms(VB6 & SQL)

To all,

I have a VB6 application which looks at a SQL Server 7 database (which
is on a development server), and I am using a mixture of DataEnvironment
and ADO Controls for the application.  However when it's finshed It will
be moved to the live server so that everyone can gain access to it.  The
problem being that when I move to the live server I will have to
remember to change all the ADO controls and the DataEnvironment
connection manually (I don't want to have to do this if I can help it).

What I thought of doing is have a table consisting of the
ConnectionString, Username & Password and then a table of all the form
names and ADO Controls, and somehow looping through the tables and
setting the connections automatically.  This is where I am stuck, I have
created the tables and entered the connection strings etc, and I can do
the loop which will loop through the records, but I don;t know how to
set the connection strings, using the form names and ADO Controls from
the tables.

Am I being stupid in doing it this way ?

Is there a better way to do this ?

Can anyone help on this, as the application is almost finished.....?

Thanks for any help in advance....

Paul Hartland


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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 29 10:28:49 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:28:49 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
Message-ID: <BAY1-F66pcflCm9uCEQ0000e0ee@hotmail.com>

so both sprocs work perfectly at home?

Can you alter both sprocs so that it just does one simple select?  if both 
sprocs work at the office, then alter the sproc again using the real code 
and see if it still works.

also, are you running both sprocs concurrently?

also, since you are using ss2k, how about replacing your temp tables with 
table variables?




>From: "Francisco Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:05:33 -0700
>
>Billy,
>   I took the adp, and the database home and updated my home sql developer
>copy with the office copy of the server w/ no code changes and off the cuff
>copy to my hdd from the office the adp now displays the record, Sql Server
>2000 SP3, but at the office it still does not and it is the same version of
>the db, and access adp.
>
>this is most bazaar.
>
>
>-Francisco
>http://rcm.netfirms.com/
>
>On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:36 AM [GMT -8],
>Francisco Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>: I'm running it as windows authentication at the moment for both QA
>: and the ADP, doh I did not think to use the profiler, I will check
>: that next...
>:
>: -Francisco
>: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
>:
>: On Monday, July 28, 2003 6:09 PM [GMT -8],
>: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
>:
>:: Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security
>:: authentication as ADP (eg. same login)?
>:: also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?
>::
>::
>::
>::
>::
>::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
>::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>::: To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>::: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
>::: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
>:::
>::: I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.  In
>::: fact I created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run fine in
>::: QA.  In an ADP
>::: that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would be
>::: different?
>:::
>::: In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
>:::
>::: The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them
>::: stp_New and stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since today
>::: 12:00am, and the Old
>::: checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
>:::
>::: If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data for
>::: stp_New but it does give me the correct results for stp_Old.  If I
>::: go to QA I can run either sproc and they both execute correctly.  I
>::: am at a loss about this
>::: one... anyone ever run into something similar?
>:::
>::: This is my code...
>:::
>::: 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-
>::: ---
>::: ----------------------------
>::: ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls (@LoginID
>::: NVARCHAR(50)) AS
>:::
>::: SET NOCOUNT ON
>::: Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as uniqueidentifier
>::: SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
>::: SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
>:::        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
>:::        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
>:::        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '
>:::    00:00:00' AS DATETIME)
>:::
>::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
>:::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
>::: END
>:::  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
>:::  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
>:::  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
>:::  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
>:::  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
>:::   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
>::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
>:::   LEFT OUTER JOIN
>:::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
>::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
>:::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME AND
>::: HelpStatusID < 2)
>:::
>::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
>:::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
>::: END
>:::  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
>:::  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
>:::   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
>:::   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
>:::   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
>:::   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
>:::
>:::  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes,
>::: ContactAddrID, entryTIME, entryUSER)
>:::   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID,
>::: A.entryTIME,
>::: A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
>:::   INNER JOIN
>:::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
>::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
>:::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME )
>:::
>:::
>:::
>::: Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
>::: Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
>:::   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
>::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
>::: FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN dbo.tbl_Machine M
>::: WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
>:::
>:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN
>:::   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
>:::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
>:::
>:::  INNER JOIN
>:::   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS
>::: HelpDeskCallDetails
>:::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
>:::
>:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>::: HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
>:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>::: CtcAddr.ContactID
>::: = Ctc.ContactID
>:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>::: CtcAddr.AddrID = Addr.AddrID
>:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>::: Addr.CompanyID = Co.CompanyID
>:::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>::: Addr.ZipID
>::: = ZipList.ZipID
>:::
>::: --THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA, but
>::: only the
>::: OLD (<) runs in Access
>:::
>::: Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
>::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
>:::
>::: ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
>:::
>:::
>::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
>:::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
>::: END
>::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
>:::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
>::: END
>:::
>::: SET NOCOUNT OFF
>:::
>:::
>::: -Francisco
>::: http://rcm.netfirms.com
>
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From DavidL at sierranevada.com  Tue Jul 29 10:49:25 2003
From: DavidL at sierranevada.com (David Lewis)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:49:25 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice
Message-ID: <229F7C29573CC4479A3313CC55B096541BC96E@pale.sierranevada.corp>


This seems to be a good collection of people with wide experience, so I'd
like to ask a strategy type question.  I don't have any certifications, but
am reasonably experienced in vb, access and now sql server 2000.  Nothing on
too large a scale, but what I've built is a sophisticated app for a brewery
to track and evaluate production and r&d.  I've done my reading and have
tried to incorporate what I understand to be good practices (good quality
code, copious sprocs, udfs where appropriate, good security...)

I am in the middle of porting much of the reporting part of the app to the
web (an intranet) to make it more easily available to users.  I have hired
an outside consultant to help with much of it.  He is not a db guy, so is
most comfortable with opening connections as needed on an asp page, sending
a query string over the network, etc.  We argue constantly about many
aspects of architecture, for example the use of sprocs (he doesn't see the
need for them, doesn't understand their advantages, knows only that he can't
see them) in spite of me trying to explain the advantages, some of which are
not relevant to our situation (we are unlikely to suffer an sql injection
attack).  However I am of the opinion that forming good habits is essential,
because sooner or later it will become important that something be done the
'right' way, and if it is a habit you won't have to stop and think about it.

The real point of this message is:  he described to me another project he is
working on for a major state agency that will be web based.  As he described
it, each time a user opens the app there are 500 round trips across the
server, each to fire a separate stored procedure or execute an sql string.
Each time, for each user!  This has been architected by people who at least
locally (and I also suspect on a statewide level) have reputations for being
expert, professional and experienced (oracle guys).  I was stunned.  So my
questions are:  I don't have experience with lots of different companies, or
with meeting strict deadlines -- do I need to lighten up?  I think some of
the reasons for their approach was that they had time constraints (you know,
never enough time to do it right...).  

I don't mean to start people off on rants (for or against).  But should I be
sticking to my guns? D. Lewis


From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Jul 29 11:14:44 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:14:44 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
References: <BAY1-F66pcflCm9uCEQ0000e0ee@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <003201c355ec$86690c20$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

That's right Billy, If unmodiffied Database / sprocs and Unmoddifed Front
End Access ADP return the data via Access and QA as expected at home the
machine is an AMD2000+ w/ 1gig of ram Win2k SP2 + ss2kdev SP3

WORK: Dual 800 Intel Xeon  w/1gig of ram Win2kServer SP2 +ss2kserver SP3

well I tried just as you suggested... and no dice :( the >= still doesnt
return via access
what do you mean Table Variables?

Thanks

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:28 AM [GMT-8],
Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:

: so both sprocs work perfectly at home?
:
: Can you alter both sprocs so that it just does one simple select?  if
: both sprocs work at the office, then alter the sproc again using the
: real code and see if it still works.
:
: also, are you running both sprocs concurrently?
:
: also, since you are using ss2k, how about replacing your temp tables
: with table variables?
:
:
:
:
:: From: "Francisco Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
:: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
:: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:05:33 -0700
::
:: Billy,
::   I took the adp, and the database home and updated my home sql
:: developer copy with the office copy of the server w/ no code changes
:: and off the cuff copy to my hdd from the office the adp now displays
:: the record, Sql Server 2000 SP3, but at the office it still does not
:: and it is the same version of the db, and access adp.
::
:: this is most bazaar.
::
::
:: -Francisco
:: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
::
:: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:36 AM [GMT -8],
:: Francisco Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:
::
::: I'm running it as windows authentication at the moment for both QA
::: and the ADP, doh I did not think to use the profiler, I will check
::: that next...
:::
::: -Francisco
::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
:::
::: On Monday, July 28, 2003 6:09 PM [GMT -8],
::: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
:::
:::: Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security
:::: authentication as ADP (eg. same login)?
:::: also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?
::::
::::
::::
::::
::::
::::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
::::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
::::: To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
::::: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
::::: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
:::::
::::: I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.  In
::::: fact I created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run fine
::::: in QA.  In an ADP
::::: that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would be
::::: different?
:::::
::::: In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
:::::
::::: The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them
::::: stp_New and stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since
::::: today 12:00am, and the Old
::::: checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
:::::
::::: If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data
::::: for stp_New but it does give me the correct results for stp_Old.
::::: If I
::::: go to QA I can run either sproc and they both execute correctly.
::::: I
::::: am at a loss about this
::::: one... anyone ever run into something similar?
:::::
::::: This is my code...
:::::
:::::
:: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
:: -
::::: ---
::::: ----------------------------
::::: ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls (@LoginID
::::: NVARCHAR(50)) AS
:::::
::::: SET NOCOUNT ON
::::: Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as uniqueidentifier
::::: SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
::::: SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
:::::        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
:::::        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
:::::        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '
:::::    00:00:00' AS DATETIME)
:::::
::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
:::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
::::: END
:::::  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
:::::  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
:::::  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
:::::  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
:::::  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
:::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
:::::   LEFT OUTER JOIN
:::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
:::::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME
::::: AND HelpStatusID < 2)
:::::
::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
:::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::::: END
:::::  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
:::::   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
:::::   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
:::::   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
:::::   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
:::::
:::::  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes,
::::: ContactAddrID, entryTIME, entryUSER)
:::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID,
::::: A.entryTIME,
::::: A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
:::::   INNER JOIN
:::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS
:::::   B ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME
::::: )
:::::
:::::
:::::
::::: Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
::::: Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
:::::   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
::::: FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN dbo.tbl_Machine M
::::: WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
:::::
:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN
:::::   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
:::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
:::::
:::::  INNER JOIN
:::::   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS
::::: HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
:::::
:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr  WITH(NOLOCK)
::::: ON HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::::: CtcAddr.ContactID
::::: = Ctc.ContactID
:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::::: CtcAddr.AddrID = Addr.AddrID
:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::::: Addr.CompanyID = Co.CompanyID
:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::::: Addr.ZipID
::::: = ZipList.ZipID
:::::
::::: --THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA,
::::: but only the
::::: OLD (<) runs in Access
:::::
::::: Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
:::::
::::: ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
:::::
:::::
::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
:::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
::::: END
::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
:::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::::: END
:::::
::::: SET NOCOUNT OFF
:::::
:::::
::::: -Francisco
::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com



From Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com  Tue Jul 29 11:18:30 2003
From: Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com (Djabarov, Robert)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:18:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice
Message-ID: <5A31F89EC4C79B49B5030FF2EF58E9D202DAC0F6@ex02.eagle.usaa.com>

You're absolutely right, and stick to your guns, they are in the right
direction.  As per your contractor, - you need him for the web stuff,
but make sure you have a solid back end guy backing you up and demanding
standards compliance from the web people.

Robert.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lewis [mailto:DavidL at sierranevada.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:49 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice


This seems to be a good collection of people with wide experience, so
I'd
like to ask a strategy type question.  I don't have any certifications,
but
am reasonably experienced in vb, access and now sql server 2000.
Nothing on
too large a scale, but what I've built is a sophisticated app for a
brewery
to track and evaluate production and r&d.  I've done my reading and have
tried to incorporate what I understand to be good practices (good
quality
code, copious sprocs, udfs where appropriate, good security...)

I am in the middle of porting much of the reporting part of the app to
the
web (an intranet) to make it more easily available to users.  I have
hired
an outside consultant to help with much of it.  He is not a db guy, so
is
most comfortable with opening connections as needed on an asp page,
sending
a query string over the network, etc.  We argue constantly about many
aspects of architecture, for example the use of sprocs (he doesn't see
the
need for them, doesn't understand their advantages, knows only that he
can't
see them) in spite of me trying to explain the advantages, some of which
are
not relevant to our situation (we are unlikely to suffer an sql
injection
attack).  However I am of the opinion that forming good habits is
essential,
because sooner or later it will become important that something be done
the
'right' way, and if it is a habit you won't have to stop and think about
it.

The real point of this message is:  he described to me another project
he is
working on for a major state agency that will be web based.  As he
described
it, each time a user opens the app there are 500 round trips across the
server, each to fire a separate stored procedure or execute an sql
string.
Each time, for each user!  This has been architected by people who at
least
locally (and I also suspect on a statewide level) have reputations for
being
expert, professional and experienced (oracle guys).  I was stunned.  So
my
questions are:  I don't have experience with lots of different
companies, or
with meeting strict deadlines -- do I need to lighten up?  I think some
of
the reasons for their approach was that they had time constraints (you
know,
never enough time to do it right...).  

I don't mean to start people off on rants (for or against).  But should
I be
sticking to my guns? D. Lewis

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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Jul 29 11:55:32 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:55:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
References: <BAY1-F66pcflCm9uCEQ0000e0ee@hotmail.com>
	<003201c355ec$86690c20$b615010a@FHTAPIA>
Message-ID: <005601c355f2$3cba1320$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

perhaps I'm not reviewing the profiler correctly, but this is what I see
from QA

EXEC stp_004A_lstHelpDeskTESTCalls 'troy', 1
(this is the merged sproc from the previous 2)

but the same execution from Access looks like this but also returns data in
QA.
exec sp_executesql N' EXEC "stp_004A_lstHelpDeskTESTCalls" @P1 , @P2  ',
N'@P1 nvarchar(4), at P2 bit', N'troy', 1

Another step I tried... was to call the sproc via an ADO command and the
recordset is populated as expected. SO, my conclusion is that ACCESS is
trying to be tooo smart and is gumming up the process.

Thanks for any other tips.
-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:14 AM [GMT-8],
Francisco H Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:

: That's right Billy, If unmodiffied Database / sprocs and Unmoddifed
: Front End Access ADP return the data via Access and QA as expected at
: home the machine is an AMD2000+ w/ 1gig of ram Win2k SP2 + ss2kdev SP3
:
: WORK: Dual 800 Intel Xeon  w/1gig of ram Win2kServer SP2 +ss2kserver
: SP3
:
: well I tried just as you suggested... and no dice :( the >= still
: doesnt return via access
: what do you mean Table Variables?
:
: Thanks
:
: -Francisco
: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:
: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:28 AM [GMT-8],
: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
:
:: so both sprocs work perfectly at home?
::
:: Can you alter both sprocs so that it just does one simple select?  if
:: both sprocs work at the office, then alter the sproc again using the
:: real code and see if it still works.
::
:: also, are you running both sprocs concurrently?
::
:: also, since you are using ss2k, how about replacing your temp tables
:: with table variables?
::
::
::
::
::: From: "Francisco Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
::: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
::: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
::: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:05:33 -0700
:::
::: Billy,
:::   I took the adp, and the database home and updated my home sql
::: developer copy with the office copy of the server w/ no code changes
::: and off the cuff copy to my hdd from the office the adp now displays
::: the record, Sql Server 2000 SP3, but at the office it still does not
::: and it is the same version of the db, and access adp.
:::
::: this is most bazaar.
:::
:::
::: -Francisco
::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
:::
::: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:36 AM [GMT -8],
::: Francisco Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:
:::
:::: I'm running it as windows authentication at the moment for both QA
:::: and the ADP, doh I did not think to use the profiler, I will check
:::: that next...
::::
:::: -Francisco
:::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
::::
:::: On Monday, July 28, 2003 6:09 PM [GMT -8],
:::: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
::::
::::: Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security
::::: authentication as ADP (eg. same login)?
::::: also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?
:::::
:::::
:::::
:::::
:::::
:::::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
:::::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:::::: To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
:::::: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:::::: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
::::::
:::::: I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.
:::::: In fact I created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run
:::::: fine
:::::: in QA.  In an ADP
:::::: that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would be
:::::: different?
::::::
:::::: In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
::::::
:::::: The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them
:::::: stp_New and stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since
:::::: today 12:00am, and the Old
:::::: checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
::::::
:::::: If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data
:::::: for stp_New but it does give me the correct results for stp_Old.
:::::: If I
:::::: go to QA I can run either sproc and they both execute correctly.
:::::: I
:::::: am at a loss about this
:::::: one... anyone ever run into something similar?
::::::
:::::: This is my code...
::::::
::::::
::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
::: -
:::::: ---
:::::: ----------------------------
:::::: ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls (@LoginID
:::::: NVARCHAR(50)) AS
::::::
:::::: SET NOCOUNT ON
:::::: Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as uniqueidentifier
:::::: SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
:::::: SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
::::::        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
::::::        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
::::::        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '
::::::    00:00:00' AS DATETIME)
::::::
:::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
::::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
:::::: END
::::::  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
::::::  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
::::::  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
::::::  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
::::::  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
::::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
:::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
::::::   LEFT OUTER JOIN
::::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
:::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
::::::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME
:::::: AND HelpStatusID < 2)
::::::
:::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
::::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::: END
::::::  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::::::  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
::::::   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
::::::   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
::::::   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
::::::   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
::::::
::::::  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes,
:::::: ContactAddrID, entryTIME, entryUSER)
::::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID,
:::::: A.entryTIME,
:::::: A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
::::::   INNER JOIN
::::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
:::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS
::::::   B ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME
:::::: )
::::::
::::::
::::::
:::::: Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
:::::: Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
::::::   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
:::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
:::::: FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN dbo.tbl_Machine
:::::: M WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
::::::
::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN
::::::   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
::::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
::::::
::::::  INNER JOIN
::::::   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS
:::::: HelpDeskCallDetails
::::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
::::::
::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr  WITH(NOLOCK)
:::::: ON HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::: CtcAddr.ContactID
:::::: = Ctc.ContactID
::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::: CtcAddr.AddrID = Addr.AddrID
::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::: Addr.CompanyID = Co.CompanyID
::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::: Addr.ZipID
:::::: = ZipList.ZipID
::::::
:::::: --THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA,
:::::: but only the
:::::: OLD (<) runs in Access
::::::
:::::: Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
:::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
::::::
:::::: ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
::::::
::::::
:::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
::::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
:::::: END
:::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
::::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::: END
::::::
:::::: SET NOCOUNT OFF
::::::
::::::
:::::: -Francisco
:::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:
:
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From subs at solution-providers.ie  Tue Jul 29 12:21:19 2003
From: subs at solution-providers.ie (Mark L. Breen)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:21:19 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice
References: <229F7C29573CC4479A3313CC55B096541BC96E@pale.sierranevada.corp>
Message-ID: <000001c355f6$66786d70$6a1118ac@D8TZHN0J>

Hello David,

I would agree with you entirely.  It is a mindset firstly, if you do not
have that mindset, you have trouble up ahead.

Secondly, that is what sprocs are for,

Thirdly, they probably could combine some of the sproc calls into lesser
return journeys which is better.

Fourth, what happens when the app builds up the volumes of data, it may be
OK now.

Fifth, if you let them away with it now, they start using cursors and all
sorts or other things,

Best aim for it to be right at the start at least.  Then when it goes wrong,
at least you are starting from a good position.

Finally, the so called experts must either have some really good reason to
develop their system that way, or else they are not experts.

Keep your nerve, you may be surprised how much you do know,

Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lewis" <DavidL at sierranevada.com>
To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:49 PM
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice


>
> This seems to be a good collection of people with wide experience, so I'd
> like to ask a strategy type question.  I don't have any certifications,
but
> am reasonably experienced in vb, access and now sql server 2000.  Nothing
on
> too large a scale, but what I've built is a sophisticated app for a
brewery
> to track and evaluate production and r&d.  I've done my reading and have
> tried to incorporate what I understand to be good practices (good quality
> code, copious sprocs, udfs where appropriate, good security...)
>
> I am in the middle of porting much of the reporting part of the app to the
> web (an intranet) to make it more easily available to users.  I have hired
> an outside consultant to help with much of it.  He is not a db guy, so is
> most comfortable with opening connections as needed on an asp page,
sending
> a query string over the network, etc.  We argue constantly about many
> aspects of architecture, for example the use of sprocs (he doesn't see the
> need for them, doesn't understand their advantages, knows only that he
can't
> see them) in spite of me trying to explain the advantages, some of which
are
> not relevant to our situation (we are unlikely to suffer an sql injection
> attack).  However I am of the opinion that forming good habits is
essential,
> because sooner or later it will become important that something be done
the
> 'right' way, and if it is a habit you won't have to stop and think about
it.
>
> The real point of this message is:  he described to me another project he
is
> working on for a major state agency that will be web based.  As he
described
> it, each time a user opens the app there are 500 round trips across the
> server, each to fire a separate stored procedure or execute an sql string.
> Each time, for each user!  This has been architected by people who at
least
> locally (and I also suspect on a statewide level) have reputations for
being
> expert, professional and experienced (oracle guys).  I was stunned.  So my
> questions are:  I don't have experience with lots of different companies,
or
> with meeting strict deadlines -- do I need to lighten up?  I think some of
> the reasons for their approach was that they had time constraints (you
know,
> never enough time to do it right...).
>
> I don't mean to start people off on rants (for or against).  But should I
be
> sticking to my guns? D. Lewis
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 29 12:26:10 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:26:10 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
Message-ID: <BAY1-F144y3w28fOuSe0000e4bc@hotmail.com>

There are a lot of temp tables in the sprocs you are trying to running.  You 
can convert them into table variables. They work just like regular temporary 
tables except that it is not written onto disk.

look up data type - table in BOL.

==cut here ===========================
SET NOCOUNT ON
DECLARE @my_product TABLE(PROD_ID INT IDENTITY(1,1) PRIMARY KEY, PROD_NAME 
VARCHAR(50), PROD_DATE SMALLDATETIME DEFAULT(GETDATE()))

INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('red book');
INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('blue book');
INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('green book');
INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('white book');

UPDATE @my_product SET PROD_NAME = 'BLUE BOOK1' WHERE PROD_ID = 2
DELETE FROM @my_product where PROD_ID = 3
SELECT * FROM @my_product

SET NOCOUNT OFF
=============================


>From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:14:44 -0700
>
>That's right Billy, If unmodiffied Database / sprocs and Unmoddifed Front
>End Access ADP return the data via Access and QA as expected at home the
>machine is an AMD2000+ w/ 1gig of ram Win2k SP2 + ss2kdev SP3
>
>WORK: Dual 800 Intel Xeon  w/1gig of ram Win2kServer SP2 +ss2kserver SP3
>
>well I tried just as you suggested... and no dice :( the >= still doesnt
>return via access
>what do you mean Table Variables?
>
>Thanks
>
>-Francisco
>http://rcm.netfirms.com
>
>On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:28 AM [GMT-8],
>Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>: so both sprocs work perfectly at home?
>:
>: Can you alter both sprocs so that it just does one simple select?  if
>: both sprocs work at the office, then alter the sproc again using the
>: real code and see if it still works.
>:
>: also, are you running both sprocs concurrently?
>:
>: also, since you are using ss2k, how about replacing your temp tables
>: with table variables?
>:
>:
>:
>:
>:: From: "Francisco Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
>:: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>:: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>:: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
>:: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:05:33 -0700
>::
>:: Billy,
>::   I took the adp, and the database home and updated my home sql
>:: developer copy with the office copy of the server w/ no code changes
>:: and off the cuff copy to my hdd from the office the adp now displays
>:: the record, Sql Server 2000 SP3, but at the office it still does not
>:: and it is the same version of the db, and access adp.
>::
>:: this is most bazaar.
>::
>::
>:: -Francisco
>:: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
>::
>:: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:36 AM [GMT -8],
>:: Francisco Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:
>::
>::: I'm running it as windows authentication at the moment for both QA
>::: and the ADP, doh I did not think to use the profiler, I will check
>::: that next...
>:::
>::: -Francisco
>::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
>:::
>::: On Monday, July 28, 2003 6:09 PM [GMT -8],
>::: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
>:::
>:::: Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security
>:::: authentication as ADP (eg. same login)?
>:::: also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?
>::::
>::::
>::::
>::::
>::::
>::::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
>::::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>::::: To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>::::: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
>::::: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
>:::::
>::::: I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.  In
>::::: fact I created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run fine
>::::: in QA.  In an ADP
>::::: that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would be
>::::: different?
>:::::
>::::: In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
>:::::
>::::: The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them
>::::: stp_New and stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since
>::::: today 12:00am, and the Old
>::::: checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
>:::::
>::::: If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data
>::::: for stp_New but it does give me the correct results for stp_Old.
>::::: If I
>::::: go to QA I can run either sproc and they both execute correctly.
>::::: I
>::::: am at a loss about this
>::::: one... anyone ever run into something similar?
>:::::
>::::: This is my code...
>:::::
>:::::
>:: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>:: -
>::::: ---
>::::: ----------------------------
>::::: ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls (@LoginID
>::::: NVARCHAR(50)) AS
>:::::
>::::: SET NOCOUNT ON
>::::: Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as uniqueidentifier
>::::: SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
>::::: SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
>:::::        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
>:::::        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
>:::::        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '
>:::::    00:00:00' AS DATETIME)
>:::::
>::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
>:::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
>::::: END
>:::::  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
>:::::  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
>:::::  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
>:::::  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
>:::::  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
>:::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
>::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
>:::::   LEFT OUTER JOIN
>:::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
>::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
>:::::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME
>::::: AND HelpStatusID < 2)
>:::::
>::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
>:::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
>::::: END
>:::::  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
>:::::  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
>:::::   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
>:::::   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
>:::::   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
>:::::   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
>:::::
>:::::  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes,
>::::: ContactAddrID, entryTIME, entryUSER)
>:::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID,
>::::: A.entryTIME,
>::::: A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
>:::::   INNER JOIN
>:::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
>::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS
>:::::   B ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME
>::::: )
>:::::
>:::::
>:::::
>::::: Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
>::::: Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
>:::::   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
>::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
>::::: FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN dbo.tbl_Machine M
>::::: WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
>:::::
>:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN
>:::::   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
>:::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
>:::::
>:::::  INNER JOIN
>:::::   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS
>::::: HelpDeskCallDetails
>:::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
>:::::
>:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr  WITH(NOLOCK)
>::::: ON HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
>:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>::::: CtcAddr.ContactID
>::::: = Ctc.ContactID
>:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>::::: CtcAddr.AddrID = Addr.AddrID
>:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>::::: Addr.CompanyID = Co.CompanyID
>:::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
>::::: Addr.ZipID
>::::: = ZipList.ZipID
>:::::
>::::: --THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA,
>::::: but only the
>::::: OLD (<) runs in Access
>:::::
>::::: Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
>::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
>:::::
>::::: ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
>:::::
>:::::
>::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
>:::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
>::::: END
>::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
>::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
>:::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
>::::: END
>:::::
>::::: SET NOCOUNT OFF
>:::::
>:::::
>::::: -Francisco
>::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Jul 29 13:12:00 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:12:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
References: <BAY1-F144y3w28fOuSe0000e4bc@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <008d01c355fc$e833e320$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

Thanks Billy,
   that seems to have sped up the sproc from a runtime of 13seconds down to
8-7 seconds  nice... tested on a fellow developer's pc, I was running Access
2k out of the box and at work I have Access2k sr1, the other developer has
Access2k sr1 loaded at home and it ran well there too.

so there is some other problem locally at work that breaks this.


-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:26 AM [GMT-8],
Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:

: There are a lot of temp tables in the sprocs you are trying to
: running.  You can convert them into table variables. They work just
: like regular temporary tables except that it is not written onto disk.
:
: look up data type - table in BOL.
:
: ==cut here ===========================
: SET NOCOUNT ON
: DECLARE @my_product TABLE(PROD_ID INT IDENTITY(1,1) PRIMARY KEY,
: PROD_NAME VARCHAR(50), PROD_DATE SMALLDATETIME DEFAULT(GETDATE()))
:
: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('red book');
: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('blue book');
: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('green book');
: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('white book');
:
: UPDATE @my_product SET PROD_NAME = 'BLUE BOOK1' WHERE PROD_ID = 2
: DELETE FROM @my_product where PROD_ID = 3
: SELECT * FROM @my_product
:
: SET NOCOUNT OFF
: =============================
:
:
:: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
:: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
:: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:14:44 -0700
::
:: That's right Billy, If unmodiffied Database / sprocs and Unmoddifed
:: Front End Access ADP return the data via Access and QA as expected
:: at home the machine is an AMD2000+ w/ 1gig of ram Win2k SP2 +
:: ss2kdev SP3
::
:: WORK: Dual 800 Intel Xeon  w/1gig of ram Win2kServer SP2 +ss2kserver
:: SP3
::
:: well I tried just as you suggested... and no dice :( the >= still
:: doesnt return via access
:: what do you mean Table Variables?
::
:: Thanks
::
:: -Francisco
:: http://rcm.netfirms.com
::
:: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:28 AM [GMT-8],
:: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
::
::: so both sprocs work perfectly at home?
:::
::: Can you alter both sprocs so that it just does one simple select?
::: if both sprocs work at the office, then alter the sproc again using
::: the real code and see if it still works.
:::
::: also, are you running both sprocs concurrently?
:::
::: also, since you are using ss2k, how about replacing your temp tables
::: with table variables?
:::
:::
:::
:::
:::: From: "Francisco Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
:::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:::: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
:::: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:::: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:05:33 -0700
::::
:::: Billy,
::::   I took the adp, and the database home and updated my home sql
:::: developer copy with the office copy of the server w/ no code
:::: changes and off the cuff copy to my hdd from the office the adp
:::: now displays the record, Sql Server 2000 SP3, but at the office it
:::: still does not and it is the same version of the db, and access
:::: adp.
::::
:::: this is most bazaar.
::::
::::
:::: -Francisco
:::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
::::
:::: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:36 AM [GMT -8],
:::: Francisco Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:
::::
::::: I'm running it as windows authentication at the moment for both QA
::::: and the ADP, doh I did not think to use the profiler, I will check
::::: that next...
:::::
::::: -Francisco
::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
:::::
::::: On Monday, July 28, 2003 6:09 PM [GMT -8],
::::: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
:::::
:::::: Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security
:::::: authentication as ADP (eg. same login)?
:::::: also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?
::::::
::::::
::::::
::::::
::::::
::::::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
::::::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
::::::: To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
::::::: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
::::::: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
:::::::
::::::: I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.
::::::: In fact I created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run
::::::: fine
::::::: in QA.  In an ADP
::::::: that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would
::::::: be different?
:::::::
::::::: In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
:::::::
::::::: The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them
::::::: stp_New and stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since
::::::: today 12:00am, and the Old
::::::: checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
:::::::
::::::: If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data
::::::: for stp_New but it does give me the correct results for stp_Old.
::::::: If I
::::::: go to QA I can run either sproc and they both execute correctly.
::::::: I
::::::: am at a loss about this
::::::: one... anyone ever run into something similar?
:::::::
::::::: This is my code...
:::::::
:::::::
:::: -----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
:::: -
::::::: ---
::::::: ----------------------------
::::::: ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls
::::::: (@LoginID NVARCHAR(50)) AS
:::::::
::::::: SET NOCOUNT ON
::::::: Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as uniqueidentifier
::::::: SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
::::::: SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
:::::::        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
:::::::        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
:::::::        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '
:::::::    00:00:00' AS DATETIME)
:::::::
::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
:::::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
::::::: END
:::::::  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
:::::::  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
:::::::  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
:::::::  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
:::::::  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
:::::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
::::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
:::::::   LEFT OUTER JOIN
:::::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
::::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
:::::::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME
::::::: AND HelpStatusID < 2)
:::::::
::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
:::::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::::::: END
:::::::  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::::  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
:::::::   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
:::::::   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
:::::::   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
:::::::   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
:::::::
:::::::  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes,
::::::: ContactAddrID, entryTIME, entryUSER)
:::::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID,
::::::: A.entryTIME,
::::::: A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
:::::::   INNER JOIN
:::::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
::::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID)
:::::::   AS B ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME =
::::::: B.entryTIME )
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::
::::::: Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
::::::: Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
:::::::   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
::::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
::::::: FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN
::::::: dbo.tbl_Machine M WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
:::::::
:::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN
:::::::   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
:::::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
:::::::
:::::::  INNER JOIN
:::::::   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS
::::::: HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
:::::::
:::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr  WITH(NOLOCK)
::::::: ON HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
:::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::::::: CtcAddr.ContactID
::::::: = Ctc.ContactID
:::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::::::: CtcAddr.AddrID = Addr.AddrID
:::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::::::: Addr.CompanyID = Co.CompanyID
:::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
::::::: Addr.ZipID
::::::: = ZipList.ZipID
:::::::
::::::: --THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA,
::::::: but only the
::::::: OLD (<) runs in Access
:::::::
::::::: Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
::::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
:::::::
::::::: ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
:::::::
:::::::
::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
:::::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
::::::: END
::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
:::::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::::::: END
:::::::
::::::: SET NOCOUNT OFF
:::::::
:::::::
::::::: -Francisco
::::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com
::
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From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Tue Jul 29 13:24:51 2003
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:24:51 -0800
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice
Message-ID: <BFBC9BAC6169D411890000508BAE2C5303120AE1@acsexch4.corp.acsalaska.com>

I've noticed that some contractors can be very short sighted.  They are
there for a specific job, care only for that specific job, and do not take
the long term goals of the company at heart.  They can be very good at what
they do, but tend to do it using their own methodologies.  

There are many ways to architect software, and standards exist to keep
everyone in the organization on the same page.  If the software they create
is to be maintained by your organization, it has to be made to your
standards.  

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark L. Breen [mailto:subs at solution-providers.ie]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:21 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice


Hello David,

I would agree with you entirely.  It is a mindset firstly, if you do not
have that mindset, you have trouble up ahead.

Secondly, that is what sprocs are for,

Thirdly, they probably could combine some of the sproc calls into lesser
return journeys which is better.

Fourth, what happens when the app builds up the volumes of data, it may be
OK now.

Fifth, if you let them away with it now, they start using cursors and all
sorts or other things,

Best aim for it to be right at the start at least.  Then when it goes wrong,
at least you are starting from a good position.

Finally, the so called experts must either have some really good reason to
develop their system that way, or else they are not experts.

Keep your nerve, you may be surprised how much you do know,

Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lewis" <DavidL at sierranevada.com>
To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:49 PM
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice


>
> This seems to be a good collection of people with wide experience, so I'd
> like to ask a strategy type question.  I don't have any certifications,
but
> am reasonably experienced in vb, access and now sql server 2000.  Nothing
on
> too large a scale, but what I've built is a sophisticated app for a
brewery
> to track and evaluate production and r&d.  I've done my reading and have
> tried to incorporate what I understand to be good practices (good quality
> code, copious sprocs, udfs where appropriate, good security...)
>
> I am in the middle of porting much of the reporting part of the app to the
> web (an intranet) to make it more easily available to users.  I have hired
> an outside consultant to help with much of it.  He is not a db guy, so is
> most comfortable with opening connections as needed on an asp page,
sending
> a query string over the network, etc.  We argue constantly about many
> aspects of architecture, for example the use of sprocs (he doesn't see the
> need for them, doesn't understand their advantages, knows only that he
can't
> see them) in spite of me trying to explain the advantages, some of which
are
> not relevant to our situation (we are unlikely to suffer an sql injection
> attack).  However I am of the opinion that forming good habits is
essential,
> because sooner or later it will become important that something be done
the
> 'right' way, and if it is a habit you won't have to stop and think about
it.
>
> The real point of this message is:  he described to me another project he
is
> working on for a major state agency that will be web based.  As he
described
> it, each time a user opens the app there are 500 round trips across the
> server, each to fire a separate stored procedure or execute an sql string.
> Each time, for each user!  This has been architected by people who at
least
> locally (and I also suspect on a statewide level) have reputations for
being
> expert, professional and experienced (oracle guys).  I was stunned.  So my
> questions are:  I don't have experience with lots of different companies,
or
> with meeting strict deadlines -- do I need to lighten up?  I think some of
> the reasons for their approach was that they had time constraints (you
know,
> never enough time to do it right...).
>
> I don't mean to start people off on rants (for or against).  But should I
be
> sticking to my guns? D. Lewis
>
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From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us  Tue Jul 29 13:41:13 2003
From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:41:13 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice
Message-ID: <D859A1A91D36184C8C28B77BF899C08609F87904@ladybird.tea.state.tx.us>

Mark,

You said "There are many ways to architect software, and standards exist
to keep everyone in the organization on the same page.  If the software
they create is to be maintained by your organization, it has to be made
to your standards."

Truer words were never spoken.  I've worked at some places that had no
software standards and trying to clean up the messes left by
contractors/former employees was no fun.  I remember one example where
it took me two weeks to figure out what a seven page procedure did.  It
was easy to see the procedure had been patched at least three different
times by three different people that used different naming and coding
styles, all different from the original.  Several of the patches
duplicated work of the original probably because the patcher couldn't
figure out where or how the existing code did it.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com] 
Sent: Tuesday 2003 Jul 29 13:25
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice

I've noticed that some contractors can be very short sighted.  They are
there for a specific job, care only for that specific job, and do not
take the long term goals of the company at heart.  They can be very good
at what they do, but tend to do it using their own methodologies.  

There are many ways to architect software, and standards exist to keep
everyone in the organization on the same page.  If the software they
create is to be maintained by your organization, it has to be made to
your standards.  

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark L. Breen [mailto:subs at solution-providers.ie]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:21 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Architecture/how to do it advice


Hello David,

I would agree with you entirely.  It is a mindset firstly, if you do not
have that mindset, you have trouble up ahead.

Secondly, that is what sprocs are for,

Thirdly, they probably could combine some of the sproc calls into lesser
return journeys which is better.

Fourth, what happens when the app builds up the volumes of data, it may
be OK now.

Fifth, if you let them away with it now, they start using cursors and
all sorts or other things,

Best aim for it to be right at the start at least.  Then when it goes
wrong, at least you are starting from a good position.

Finally, the so called experts must either have some really good reason
to develop their system that way, or else they are not experts.

Keep your nerve, you may be surprised how much you do know,

Mark

From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Jul 29 13:54:45 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:54:45 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
References: <BAY1-F144y3w28fOuSe0000e4bc@hotmail.com>
	<008d01c355fc$e833e320$b615010a@FHTAPIA>
Message-ID: <00a401c35602$e1897070$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

My co-worker found an option in Access for the amount of records to limit
the return to, in Access it is defaulted to 10k, for my home version it is
set to this limit as well as here at work, but at home the results are as
expected, at work I had to modify this result to > 10,000 records, I chose
as a test 100,000,000 which yields the correct results.

boy do I hate Access sometimes...

/RANT/
Now if the resulting records are limited to the 10k, why on earth would it
be blocking the 1 returned record (this is a test of course but in normal
everyday results it would return anywhere between 20 - 100 records for new
entries.  Access is trying to  be way too smart for it's own good... I know
I could avoid this headache and do it all VB but I do like the simple things
in access for speedy RAD, Listbox population, automatic handling of cbo's
for auto search select when you type into the box.  OpenArguments...

well thanks for the vent.
/end RANT/


-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM [GMT-8],
Francisco H Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:

: Thanks Billy,
:    that seems to have sped up the sproc from a runtime of 13seconds
: down to 8-7 seconds  nice... tested on a fellow developer's pc, I was
: running Access 2k out of the box and at work I have Access2k sr1, the
: other developer has Access2k sr1 loaded at home and it ran well there
: too.
:
: so there is some other problem locally at work that breaks this.
:
:
: -Francisco
: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:
: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:26 AM [GMT-8],
: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
:
:: There are a lot of temp tables in the sprocs you are trying to
:: running.  You can convert them into table variables. They work just
:: like regular temporary tables except that it is not written onto
:: disk.
::
:: look up data type - table in BOL.
::
:: ==cut here ===========================
:: SET NOCOUNT ON
:: DECLARE @my_product TABLE(PROD_ID INT IDENTITY(1,1) PRIMARY KEY,
:: PROD_NAME VARCHAR(50), PROD_DATE SMALLDATETIME DEFAULT(GETDATE()))
::
:: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('red book');
:: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('blue book');
:: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('green book');
:: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('white book');
::
:: UPDATE @my_product SET PROD_NAME = 'BLUE BOOK1' WHERE PROD_ID = 2
:: DELETE FROM @my_product where PROD_ID = 3
:: SELECT * FROM @my_product
::
:: SET NOCOUNT OFF
:: =============================
::
::
::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
::: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
::: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
::: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:14:44 -0700
:::
::: That's right Billy, If unmodiffied Database / sprocs and Unmoddifed
::: Front End Access ADP return the data via Access and QA as expected
::: at home the machine is an AMD2000+ w/ 1gig of ram Win2k SP2 +
::: ss2kdev SP3
:::
::: WORK: Dual 800 Intel Xeon  w/1gig of ram Win2kServer SP2 +ss2kserver
::: SP3
:::
::: well I tried just as you suggested... and no dice :( the >= still
::: doesnt return via access
::: what do you mean Table Variables?
:::
::: Thanks
:::
::: -Francisco
::: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:::
::: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:28 AM [GMT-8],
::: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
:::
:::: so both sprocs work perfectly at home?
::::
:::: Can you alter both sprocs so that it just does one simple select?
:::: if both sprocs work at the office, then alter the sproc again using
:::: the real code and see if it still works.
::::
:::: also, are you running both sprocs concurrently?
::::
:::: also, since you are using ss2k, how about replacing your temp
:::: tables with table variables?
::::
::::
::::
::::
::::: From: "Francisco Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
::::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
::::: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
::::: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
::::: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:05:33 -0700
:::::
::::: Billy,
:::::   I took the adp, and the database home and updated my home sql
::::: developer copy with the office copy of the server w/ no code
::::: changes and off the cuff copy to my hdd from the office the adp
::::: now displays the record, Sql Server 2000 SP3, but at the office it
::::: still does not and it is the same version of the db, and access
::::: adp.
:::::
::::: this is most bazaar.
:::::
:::::
::::: -Francisco
::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
:::::
::::: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:36 AM [GMT -8],
::::: Francisco Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:
:::::
:::::: I'm running it as windows authentication at the moment for both
:::::: QA and the ADP, doh I did not think to use the profiler, I will
:::::: check that next...
::::::
:::::: -Francisco
:::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
::::::
:::::: On Monday, July 28, 2003 6:09 PM [GMT -8],
:::::: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
::::::
::::::: Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security
::::::: authentication as ADP (eg. same login)?
::::::: also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
:::::::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:::::::: To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
:::::::: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:::::::: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
::::::::
:::::::: I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.
:::::::: In fact I created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run
:::::::: fine
:::::::: in QA.  In an ADP
:::::::: that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would
:::::::: be different?
::::::::
:::::::: In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
::::::::
:::::::: The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them
:::::::: stp_New and stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since
:::::::: today 12:00am, and the Old
:::::::: checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
::::::::
:::::::: If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data
:::::::: for stp_New but it does give me the correct results for
:::::::: stp_Old.
:::::::: If I
:::::::: go to QA I can run either sproc and they both execute
:::::::: correctly.
:::::::: I
:::::::: am at a loss about this
:::::::: one... anyone ever run into something similar?
::::::::
:::::::: This is my code...
::::::::
::::::::
::::: ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
::::: - -
:::::::: ---
:::::::: ----------------------------
:::::::: ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls
:::::::: (@LoginID NVARCHAR(50)) AS
::::::::
:::::::: SET NOCOUNT ON
:::::::: Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as
:::::::: uniqueidentifier SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
:::::::: SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
::::::::        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
::::::::        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
::::::::        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '
::::::::    00:00:00' AS DATETIME)
::::::::
:::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
::::::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
:::::::: END
::::::::  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
::::::::  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
::::::::  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
::::::::  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
::::::::  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
::::::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
:::::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
::::::::   LEFT OUTER JOIN
::::::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
:::::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
::::::::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME
:::::::: AND HelpStatusID < 2)
::::::::
:::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
::::::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::::: END
::::::::  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::::::::  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
::::::::   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
::::::::   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
::::::::   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
::::::::   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
::::::::
::::::::  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes,
:::::::: ContactAddrID, entryTIME, entryUSER)
::::::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID,
:::::::: A.entryTIME,
:::::::: A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
::::::::   INNER JOIN
::::::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
:::::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID)
::::::::   AS B ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME =
:::::::: B.entryTIME )
::::::::
::::::::
::::::::
:::::::: Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
:::::::: Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
::::::::   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
:::::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
:::::::: FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN
:::::::: dbo.tbl_Machine M WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
::::::::
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN
::::::::   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
::::::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
::::::::
::::::::  INNER JOIN
::::::::   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS
:::::::: HelpDeskCallDetails
::::::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
::::::::
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr
:::::::: WITH(NOLOCK)
:::::::: ON HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::::: CtcAddr.ContactID
:::::::: = Ctc.ContactID
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::::: CtcAddr.AddrID = Addr.AddrID
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::::: Addr.CompanyID = Co.CompanyID
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK)
:::::::: ON Addr.ZipID
:::::::: = ZipList.ZipID
::::::::
:::::::: --THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA,
:::::::: but only the
:::::::: OLD (<) runs in Access
::::::::
:::::::: Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
:::::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
::::::::
:::::::: ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
::::::::
::::::::
:::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
::::::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
:::::::: END
:::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
::::::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::::: END
::::::::
:::::::: SET NOCOUNT OFF
::::::::
::::::::
:::::::: -Francisco
:::::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:::
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From mikedorism at ntelos.net  Tue Jul 29 15:53:01 2003
From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:53:01 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
In-Reply-To: <00a401c35602$e1897070$b615010a@FHTAPIA>
Message-ID: <001901c35613$6a4db230$66330cd8@hargrove.internal>

If you set the default to 0, it will always return all the records.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H
Tapia
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:55 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: SQL Server 2k List
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


My co-worker found an option in Access for the amount of records to limit
the return to, in Access it is defaulted to 10k, for my home version it is
set to this limit as well as here at work, but at home the results are as
expected, at work I had to modify this result to > 10,000 records, I chose
as a test 100,000,000 which yields the correct results.

boy do I hate Access sometimes...

/RANT/
Now if the resulting records are limited to the 10k, why on earth would it
be blocking the 1 returned record (this is a test of course but in normal
everyday results it would return anywhere between 20 - 100 records for new
entries.  Access is trying to  be way too smart for it's own good... I know
I could avoid this headache and do it all VB but I do like the simple things
in access for speedy RAD, Listbox population, automatic handling of cbo's
for auto search select when you type into the box.  OpenArguments...

well thanks for the vent.
/end RANT/


-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM [GMT-8],
Francisco H Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:

: Thanks Billy,
:    that seems to have sped up the sproc from a runtime of 13seconds
: down to 8-7 seconds  nice... tested on a fellow developer's pc, I was
: running Access 2k out of the box and at work I have Access2k sr1, the
: other developer has Access2k sr1 loaded at home and it ran well there
: too.
:
: so there is some other problem locally at work that breaks this.
:
:
: -Francisco
: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:
: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:26 AM [GMT-8],
: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
:
:: There are a lot of temp tables in the sprocs you are trying to
:: running.  You can convert them into table variables. They work just
:: like regular temporary tables except that it is not written onto
:: disk.
::
:: look up data type - table in BOL.
::
:: ==cut here ===========================
:: SET NOCOUNT ON
:: DECLARE @my_product TABLE(PROD_ID INT IDENTITY(1,1) PRIMARY KEY,
:: PROD_NAME VARCHAR(50), PROD_DATE SMALLDATETIME DEFAULT(GETDATE()))
::
:: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('red book');
:: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('blue book');
:: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('green book');
:: INSERT INTO @my_product(PROD_NAME) VALUES('white book');
::
:: UPDATE @my_product SET PROD_NAME = 'BLUE BOOK1' WHERE PROD_ID = 2
:: DELETE FROM @my_product where PROD_ID = 3
:: SELECT * FROM @my_product
::
:: SET NOCOUNT OFF
:: =============================
::
::
::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
::: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
::: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
::: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:14:44 -0700
:::
::: That's right Billy, If unmodiffied Database / sprocs and Unmoddifed
::: Front End Access ADP return the data via Access and QA as expected
::: at home the machine is an AMD2000+ w/ 1gig of ram Win2k SP2 +
::: ss2kdev SP3
:::
::: WORK: Dual 800 Intel Xeon  w/1gig of ram Win2kServer SP2 +ss2kserver
::: SP3
:::
::: well I tried just as you suggested... and no dice :( the >= still
::: doesnt return via access
::: what do you mean Table Variables?
:::
::: Thanks
:::
::: -Francisco
::: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:::
::: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:28 AM [GMT-8],
::: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
:::
:::: so both sprocs work perfectly at home?
::::
:::: Can you alter both sprocs so that it just does one simple select?
:::: if both sprocs work at the office, then alter the sproc again using
:::: the real code and see if it still works.
::::
:::: also, are you running both sprocs concurrently?
::::
:::: also, since you are using ss2k, how about replacing your temp
:::: tables with table variables?
::::
::::
::::
::::
::::: From: "Francisco Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
::::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
::::: To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
::::: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
::::: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:05:33 -0700
:::::
::::: Billy,
:::::   I took the adp, and the database home and updated my home sql
::::: developer copy with the office copy of the server w/ no code
::::: changes and off the cuff copy to my hdd from the office the adp
::::: now displays the record, Sql Server 2000 SP3, but at the office it
::::: still does not and it is the same version of the db, and access
::::: adp.
:::::
::::: this is most bazaar.
:::::
:::::
::::: -Francisco
::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
:::::
::::: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:36 AM [GMT -8],
::::: Francisco Tapia <my.lists at verizon.net> wrote:
:::::
:::::: I'm running it as windows authentication at the moment for both
:::::: QA and the ADP, doh I did not think to use the profiler, I will
:::::: check that next...
::::::
:::::: -Francisco
:::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com/
::::::
:::::: On Monday, July 28, 2003 6:09 PM [GMT -8],
:::::: Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
::::::
::::::: Are you tried running both sprocs in QA using the security
::::::: authentication as ADP (eg. same login)?
::::::: also, does SQL Profiler reveal anything?
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::: From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
:::::::: Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:::::::: To: <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
:::::::: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:::::::: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0700
::::::::
:::::::: I have a stored procedure in my database that runs fine in QA.
:::::::: In fact I created 2 versions of this sproc and both of them run
:::::::: fine
:::::::: in QA.  In an ADP
:::::::: that I have one sproc runs and the other does not.  What would
:::::::: be different?
::::::::
:::::::: In the where clause I am checking for >= or <.
::::::::
:::::::: The code is "I D E N T I C A L" in both sprocs lets call them
:::::::: stp_New and stp_Old  the new checks for any new entries since
:::::::: today 12:00am, and the Old
:::::::: checks for any records older than today at 12:00am.
::::::::
:::::::: If I run the sproc in Access (ADP) it does not give me any data
:::::::: for stp_New but it does give me the correct results for
:::::::: stp_Old.
:::::::: If I
:::::::: go to QA I can run either sproc and they both execute
:::::::: correctly.
:::::::: I
:::::::: am at a loss about this
:::::::: one... anyone ever run into something similar?
::::::::
:::::::: This is my code...
::::::::
::::::::
::::: ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
::::: - -
:::::::: ---
:::::::: ----------------------------
:::::::: ALTER            PROCEDURE stp_004A_lstHelpDeskNewCalls
:::::::: (@LoginID NVARCHAR(50)) AS
::::::::
:::::::: SET NOCOUNT ON
:::::::: Declare @SetDateTime as datetime, @entryUser as
:::::::: uniqueidentifier SET @entryUser = dbo.udfEntryUSER(@LoginID)
:::::::: SET @SetDateTime = CAST (
::::::::        CAST (DATEPART(m, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '/' +
::::::::        CAST (DATEPART(d, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4))+ '/' +
::::::::        CAST (DATEPART(yyyy, getUTCdate()) AS VARCHAR(4)) + '
::::::::    00:00:00' AS DATETIME)
::::::::
:::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
::::::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
:::::::: END
::::::::  CREATE TABLE #MaxStatus
::::::::  ([HelpDeskID] [UniqueIdentifier] Not Null,
::::::::  [HelpStatusID] [int] Not Null,
::::::::  [entryTime] [dateTIME] Not Null)
::::::::  INSERT INTO #MaxStatus(HelpDeskID, HelpStatusID, entryTIME)
::::::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, A.HelpStatusID, A.entryTIME FROM
:::::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus AS A WITH(NOLOCK)
::::::::   LEFT OUTER JOIN
::::::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
:::::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskStatus  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID) AS B
::::::::   ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME = B.entryTIME
:::::::: AND HelpStatusID < 2)
::::::::
:::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
::::::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::::: END
::::::::  CREATE TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
::::::::  ([HelpDeskID] [uniqueidentifier] Not Null,
::::::::   [CallNotes] [nvarchar](20) Null,
::::::::   [ContactAddrID] [uniqueidentifier] Null,
::::::::   [entryTIME] [datetime] Null,
::::::::   [entryUSER] [uniqueidentifier] Null)
::::::::
::::::::  INSERT INTO #HelpDeskCallDetails (HelpDeskID, CallNotes,
:::::::: ContactAddrID, entryTIME, entryUSER)
::::::::   Select A.HelpDeskID, LEFT(A.CallNotes, 20), A.ContactAddrID,
:::::::: A.entryTIME,
:::::::: A.entryUSER FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails AS A  WITH(NOLOCK)
::::::::   INNER JOIN
::::::::   (SELECT HelpDeskID, Max(entryTIME) as entryTIME From
:::::::: dbo.tbl_HelpDeskCallDetails  WITH(NOLOCK) Group By HelpDeskID)
::::::::   AS B ON (A.HelpDeskID = B.HelpDeskID AND A.entryTIME =
:::::::: B.entryTIME )
::::::::
::::::::
::::::::
:::::::: Select HD.CaseNumberID, M.SN,Ctc.ContactName,Co.CompanyName,
:::::::: Addr.LocationName,ZipList.State,
::::::::   HelpDeskCallDetails.CallNotes AS [Call Notes],
:::::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME
:::::::: FROM dbo.tbl_HelpDesk HD WITH(NOLOCK) INNER JOIN
:::::::: dbo.tbl_Machine M WITH(NOLOCK)  ON HD.MachineID = M.MachineID
::::::::
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN
::::::::   (SELECT * FROM #MaxStatus WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS MaxStatus
::::::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = MaxStatus.HelpDeskID
::::::::
::::::::  INNER JOIN
::::::::   (SELECT * FROM #HelpDeskCallDetails WITH(NOLOCK) ) AS
:::::::: HelpDeskCallDetails
::::::::   ON HD.HelpDeskID = HelpDeskCallDetails.HelpDeskID
::::::::
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_ContactAddress AS CtcAddr
:::::::: WITH(NOLOCK)
:::::::: ON HelpDeskCallDetails.ContactAddrID = CtcAddr.ContactAddrID
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Contacts AS Ctc  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::::: CtcAddr.ContactID
:::::::: = Ctc.ContactID
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Address As Addr  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::::: CtcAddr.AddrID = Addr.AddrID
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_Company AS Co  WITH(NOLOCK) ON
:::::::: Addr.CompanyID = Co.CompanyID
::::::::  LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.tbl_AddrZipList AS ZipList  WITH(NOLOCK)
:::::::: ON Addr.ZipID
:::::::: = ZipList.ZipID
::::::::
:::::::: --THIS LINE BELOW IS WHAT CHANGES from >= to <, both run in QA,
:::::::: but only the
:::::::: OLD (<) runs in Access
::::::::
:::::::: Where HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME >=  @SetDateTime AND
:::::::: HelpDeskCallDetails.entryUSER = @entryUser
::::::::
:::::::: ORDER BY HelpDeskCallDetails.entryTIME ASC
::::::::
::::::::
:::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#MaxStatus')) BEGIN
::::::::  DROP TABLE #MaxStatus
:::::::: END
:::::::: IF EXISTS (select * from tempdb.dbo.sysobjects where id =
:::::::: object_id(N'tempdb..#HelpDeskCallDetails')) BEGIN
::::::::  DROP TABLE #HelpDeskCallDetails
:::::::: END
::::::::
:::::::: SET NOCOUNT OFF
::::::::
::::::::
:::::::: -Francisco
:::::::: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:::
:::
::: _______________________________________________
::: dba-SQLServer mailing list
::: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
::: http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
::: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
:::
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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Tue Jul 29 16:59:27 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:59:27 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE050E@GUARDIAN_5>

Is it possible to build a front-end in A2K to execute stored procedures in
SQL version 7?  I need to allow the user to enter in a parameter that is in
the stored procedure, if it is possible to create a parameter in SQL that is
determined by a combo box in Access.  ???? Thanks. 

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 29 19:22:48 2003
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:22:48 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures
In-Reply-To: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE050E@GUARDIAN_5>
Message-ID: <3F279C78.29204.634936@localhost>

On 29 Jul 2003 at 16:59, Nicholson, Karen wrote:

> Is it possible to build a front-end in A2K to execute stored procedures in
> SQL version 7? 

Yes, I do it all the time.

 I need to allow the user to enter in a parameter that is in
> the stored procedure, if it is possible to create a parameter in SQL that is
> determined by a combo box in Access.  ???? Thanks. 
> _______________________________________________

If sprocMyProcedure expects a single defined parameter, one way is to 
use something like:

Function GetData()
Dim conMyConnection as New Connection
Dim rs as New Recordset

conMyConnection = ".......... etc
rs.open "sprocMyProcedure " & cboMyCombo, conMyConnection
.....




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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 29 21:07:14 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:07:14 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <BAY1-F146DHZzzb66CY0000f89c@hotmail.com>

Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there is 
UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:

"the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."

to

"The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."

Thanks in advance,
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 29 21:07:14 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:07:14 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <BAY1-F146DHZzzb66CY0000f89c@hotmail.com>

Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there is 
UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:

"the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."

to

"The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."

Thanks in advance,
Billy

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 29 22:05:34 2003
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:05:34 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F146DHZzzb66CY0000f89c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3F27C29E.16659.F84E71@localhost>

On 30 Jul 2003 at 2:07, Billy Pang wrote:

> Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there is 
> UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:
> 
> "the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."
> 
> to
> 
> "The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."
> 
That's not "proper case", that's "sentence case"

Proper case would be
"The Quick Brown Fox Jumped.  It Is Over For The Lazy Dog."

But the answer in either case is No, you'd have to roll your own 
function.



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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul 30 07:41:38 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:41:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE0567@GUARDIAN_5>

 INITCAP(string) = first letter of each word capitalized, respectively


-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:06 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?


On 30 Jul 2003 at 2:07, Billy Pang wrote:

> Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there is

> UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:
> 
> "the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."
> 
> to
> 
> "The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."
> 
That's not "proper case", that's "sentence case"

Proper case would be
"The Quick Brown Fox Jumped.  It Is Over For The Lazy Dog."

But the answer in either case is No, you'd have to roll your own 
function.



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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul 30 07:44:23 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:44:23 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE0568@GUARDIAN_5>

Or:

create  FUNCTION firstLetterUpperCase (@item varchar(100))
RETURNS varchar(100) AS  
BEGIN 

Declare @str varchar(100),
    @idx int,
    @strLength int

set @idx = charindex (' ', @Item, 1)

if (@item is null) or len (@item)  = 0
    return @item


set @strLength = len (@item)

set @str = lower (@Item)
set @str = upper (substring (@str, 1, 1)) + substring (@str, 2, @strLength
-1)

while @idx > 0
begin
    set @str = substring (@str, 1, @idx ) + upper (substring (@str, @idx+1,
1)) +  substring (@str, @idx + 2, @strLength - (@idx + 1)) 
     set @idx = charindex (' ', @item, @idx + 2)
end

return @str

END



-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Pang [mailto:tuxedo_man at hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:07 PM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?


Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there is 
UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:

"the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."

to

"The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."

Thanks in advance,
Billy

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jul 30 06:43:01 2003
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:43:01 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <20030730114301.VGIF18722.fep06-svc.ttys.com@localhost>

Why do you need this to be carried out in SQL Server is there a particular reason for this....If I need anything like this I write my own functions in either Access or Visual Basic (if and when I need to)

Paul Hartland


From: "Nicholson, Karen" <knicholson at gpsx.net>
Date: Wed 30/Jul/2003 12:41 GMT
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?

 INITCAP(string) = first letter of each word capitalized, respectively


-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:06 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?


On 30 Jul 2003 at 2:07, Billy Pang wrote:

> Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there is

> UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:
> 
> "the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."
> 
> to
> 
> "The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."
> 
That's not "proper case", that's "sentence case"

Proper case would be
"The Quick Brown Fox Jumped.  It Is Over For The Lazy Dog."

But the answer in either case is No, you'd have to roll your own 
function.



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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul 30 07:53:14 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:53:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE056F@GUARDIAN_5>

Or how about this one - this seems to take into account the punctuation
mark.

create  FUNCTION ReturnCasedString (@Instr varchar(8000))

RETURNS varchar(8000) AS  
BEGIN 

If @Instr is Null or
  Len(@instr)=0 or
  @instr=space(len(@instr)
  Return @Instr
  
Declare @Workstr varchar(8000)
Declare @Punct varchar(20)
Declare @PunctLen int
Declare @StrPos int
Declare @PunctPos int
Declare @PunctChar char(1)

Set @Punct=''' ,([{<'
Set @punctLen=len(@punct)

Set @WorkStr=LOWER(@Instr)  

Set @PunctPos=1
While @PunctPos <= @PunctLen
Begin
   Set @punctChar=substring(@punct, at punctPos,1)
   set @StrPos = charindex (@punctChar, @WorkStr, 1)
   if @StrPos>0
      Begin
           While @strpos > 0
                 begin
                    Set @charpos = @strpos + 1
                    If @charpos <= @punctlen
                       begin
                         Set @substring(@workstr,charpos),1) =
UPPER(@substring(@workstr,charpos),1))
                       end   
                     Set Strpos=charindex(@punctchar, at workstr, at charpos) 
                  end 
       end
  Set @punctPos=@PunctPos+1 
 End

return @Workstr

END




-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Pang [mailto:tuxedo_man at hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:07 PM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?


Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there is 
UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:

"the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."

to

"The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."

Thanks in advance,
Billy

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jul 30 07:28:18 2003
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:28:18 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
In-Reply-To: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE0567@GUARDIAN_5>
Message-ID: <3F284682.20475.13D4D11@localhost>

On 30 Jul 2003 at 7:41, Nicholson, Karen wrote:

>  INITCAP(string) = first letter of each word capitalized, respectively
> 
> 
Is that in SQL Server 2000? It's not in SQL Server 7, but  I haven't done anything 
with 2000.




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jul 30 07:31:33 2003
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:31:33 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] number manipulation
In-Reply-To: <000301c1de0a$02465ed0$0a64a8c0@athelon>
References: <000001c1de07$789a9ae0$01000001@am2>
Message-ID: <3F284745.11624.140465B@localhost>

On 7 Apr 2002 at 14:57, Peter Kaufman wrote:

> Hi Alan,
>  
> I don?t want an implicit conversion to string. Will right() work on a
> numeric value?
>  
> Do you know the MS SQL equivalent to Access?s int() function?
>  

myVariable - FLOOR(myVariable)


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From sgeller at cce.umn.edu  Wed Jul 30 07:57:39 2003
From: sgeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Geller)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:57:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures
Message-ID: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01119EB8@ccemail2.cce.local>

Karen,

A few ways to do this depending on what you want to do with the sproc
when it gets the parameter.  Does it just do something on it's own or
does it return a recordset and if so what do you want to do with the
recordset?

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:59 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures


Is it possible to build a front-end in A2K to execute stored procedures
in SQL version 7?  I need to allow the user to enter in a parameter that
is in the stored procedure, if it is possible to create a parameter in
SQL that is determined by a combo box in Access.  ???? Thanks. 
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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul 30 09:10:12 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:10:12 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE059F@GUARDIAN_5>

What we are doing is switching systems that record incoming signals from
alarms from the B32 environment to a new receiver.  We will be doing testing
in batches with the phone company, taking blocks of our customers by CS_no
(which is the little box that hangs on your wall for our security systems).
The phone company will call, we will change the "special" field for the
specified block of customers to the modified "newspecial" field.  I have
another routine to reverse if all goes wrong, but this is the stored
procedure, with the place that needs to be changed clearly marked.

I would like my user to be able to run this from Access specifying his block
as needed so I don't have to sit with him at 2:00 in the morning just to
change a piece of code.  
Here is the sproc:

CREATE procedure gps_SpecialSystem as

SET CONCAT_NULL_YIELDS_NULL OFF

truncate table gps_specialsystemdata
insert gps_specialsystemdata(
          system_no,
          cs_no,
          special,
          newspecial,
          length)
   
SELECT system_no, 
               cs_no, 
               special,
               special+'RSI' ,
               len(special) as length
FROM system

WHERE (
/********************************************************************/
/***THIS IS THE CS NUMBER GROUPING TO CHANGE***/
(cs_no LIKE '21%') 
/********************************************************************/
and
(len(special) in (1,2,3) or
special is null))

update  gps_specialsystemdata
set exception=1
where special <> 'SUB'

update system
set system.special=gps_specialsystemdata.newspecial

FROM gps_SpecialSystemData
where 
    gps_SpecialSystemData.system_no = system.system_no AND 
    gps_SpecialSystemData.cs_no = system.cs_no






-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Geller [mailto:sgeller at cce.umn.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:58 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures


Karen,

A few ways to do this depending on what you want to do with the sproc
when it gets the parameter.  Does it just do something on it's own or
does it return a recordset and if so what do you want to do with the
recordset?

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:59 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures


Is it possible to build a front-end in A2K to execute stored procedures
in SQL version 7?  I need to allow the user to enter in a parameter that
is in the stored procedure, if it is possible to create a parameter in
SQL that is determined by a combo box in Access.  ???? Thanks. 
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 30 11:16:36 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:16:36 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <BAY1-F405f4Z9A4ITKF00011600@hotmail.com>

I think Initcap is used with PLSQL/Oracle.


>From: "Nicholson, Karen" <knicholson at gpsx.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:41:38 -0500
>
>  INITCAP(string) = first letter of each word capitalized, respectively
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:06 PM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>
>
>On 30 Jul 2003 at 2:07, Billy Pang wrote:
>
> > Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there 
>is
>
> > UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:
> >
> > "the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."
> >
> > to
> >
> > "The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."
> >
>That's not "proper case", that's "sentence case"
>
>Proper case would be
>"The Quick Brown Fox Jumped.  It Is Over For The Lazy Dog."
>
>But the answer in either case is No, you'd have to roll your own
>function.
>
>
>
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 30 11:18:23 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:18:23 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <BAY1-F144hh6nB2J4Xt0001178b@hotmail.com>

Thanks Karen for the case functions.
The firstLetterUpperCase returned Proper case, which was what I asked for.

Billy


>From: "Nicholson, Karen" <knicholson at gpsx.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:44:23 -0500
>
>Or:
>
>create  FUNCTION firstLetterUpperCase (@item varchar(100))
>RETURNS varchar(100) AS
>BEGIN
>
>Declare @str varchar(100),
>     @idx int,
>     @strLength int
>
>set @idx = charindex (' ', @Item, 1)
>
>if (@item is null) or len (@item)  = 0
>     return @item
>
>
>set @strLength = len (@item)
>
>set @str = lower (@Item)
>set @str = upper (substring (@str, 1, 1)) + substring (@str, 2, @strLength
>-1)
>
>while @idx > 0
>begin
>     set @str = substring (@str, 1, @idx ) + upper (substring (@str, 
>@idx+1,
>1)) +  substring (@str, @idx + 2, @strLength - (@idx + 1))
>      set @idx = charindex (' ', @item, @idx + 2)
>end
>
>return @str
>
>END
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Billy Pang [mailto:tuxedo_man at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:07 PM
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>
>
>Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there is
>UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:
>
>"the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."
>
>to
>
>"The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Billy
>
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Wed Jul 30 11:25:34 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:25:34 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
References: <001901c35613$6a4db230$66330cd8@hargrove.internal>
Message-ID: <002101c356b7$3451b600$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

Thanks Doris :)

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On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:53 PM [GMT-8],
Mike and Doris Manning <mikedorism at ntelos.net> wrote:

: If you set the default to 0, it will always return all the records.
:
: Doris Manning
: Database Administrator
: Hargrove Inc.
: www.hargroveinc.com
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
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: [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
: Francisco H Tapia
: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:55 PM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
: Cc: SQL Server 2k List
: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:
:
: My co-worker found an option in Access for the amount of records to
: limit the return to, in Access it is defaulted to 10k, for my home
: version it is set to this limit as well as here at work, but at home
: the results are as expected, at work I had to modify this result to >
: 10,000 records, I chose as a test 100,000,000 which yields the
: correct results.
:
<snip>



From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul 30 12:27:17 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:27:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE062F@GUARDIAN_5>

Oh my, that is intuitive!

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:26 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Thanks Doris :)

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:53 PM [GMT-8],
Mike and Doris Manning <mikedorism at ntelos.net> wrote:

: If you set the default to 0, it will always return all the records.
:
: Doris Manning
: Database Administrator
: Hargrove Inc.
: www.hargroveinc.com
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
: [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
: Francisco H Tapia
: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:55 PM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
: Cc: SQL Server 2k List
: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:
:
: My co-worker found an option in Access for the amount of records to
: limit the return to, in Access it is defaulted to 10k, for my home
: version it is set to this limit as well as here at work, but at home
: the results are as expected, at work I had to modify this result to >
: 10,000 records, I chose as a test 100,000,000 which yields the
: correct results.
:
<snip>


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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 30 11:25:08 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:25:08 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <BAY1-F150Cr0gshDUz40000eb5b@hotmail.com>

I use SQL Analyzer more than I use Access when I pull data out of SQL 
Server.



>From: <paul.hartland at fsmail.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:43:01 +0000
>
>Why do you need this to be carried out in SQL Server is there a particular 
>reason for this....If I need anything like this I write my own functions in 
>either Access or Visual Basic (if and when I need to)
>
>Paul Hartland
>
>
>From: "Nicholson, Karen" <knicholson at gpsx.net>
>Date: Wed 30/Jul/2003 12:41 GMT
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>
>  INITCAP(string) = first letter of each word capitalized, respectively
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:06 PM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>
>
>On 30 Jul 2003 at 2:07, Billy Pang wrote:
>
> > Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there 
>is
>
> > UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:
> >
> > "the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."
> >
> > to
> >
> > "The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."
> >
>That's not "proper case", that's "sentence case"
>
>Proper case would be
>"The Quick Brown Fox Jumped.  It Is Over For The Lazy Dog."
>
>But the answer in either case is No, you'd have to roll your own
>function.
>
>
>
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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul 30 12:31:21 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:31:21 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE0633@GUARDIAN_5>

Do you mean on the options tab in Microsoft Access, if you set the "dont
display lists where more than this number of records read" to 0, it takes
off the limit?

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:27 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Oh my, that is intuitive!

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:26 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Thanks Doris :)

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:53 PM [GMT-8],
Mike and Doris Manning <mikedorism at ntelos.net> wrote:

: If you set the default to 0, it will always return all the records.
:
: Doris Manning
: Database Administrator
: Hargrove Inc.
: www.hargroveinc.com
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
: [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
: Francisco H Tapia
: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:55 PM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
: Cc: SQL Server 2k List
: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:
:
: My co-worker found an option in Access for the amount of records to
: limit the return to, in Access it is defaulted to 10k, for my home
: version it is set to this limit as well as here at work, but at home
: the results are as expected, at work I had to modify this result to >
: 10,000 records, I chose as a test 100,000,000 which yields the
: correct results.
:
<snip>


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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 30 11:25:08 2003
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:25:08 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
Message-ID: <BAY1-F150Cr0gshDUz40000eb5b@hotmail.com>

I use SQL Analyzer more than I use Access when I pull data out of SQL 
Server.



>From: <paul.hartland at fsmail.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:43:01 +0000
>
>Why do you need this to be carried out in SQL Server is there a particular 
>reason for this....If I need anything like this I write my own functions in 
>either Access or Visual Basic (if and when I need to)
>
>Paul Hartland
>
>
>From: "Nicholson, Karen" <knicholson at gpsx.net>
>Date: Wed 30/Jul/2003 12:41 GMT
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>
>  INITCAP(string) = first letter of each word capitalized, respectively
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:06 PM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Proper case?
>
>
>On 30 Jul 2003 at 2:07, Billy Pang wrote:
>
> > Is there a "proper case" function within SQL Server?  I know that there 
>is
>
> > UPPER and LOWER, but what will help me convert the following:
> >
> > "the quick brown fox jumped.  it is over for the lazy dog."
> >
> > to
> >
> > "The quick brown fox jumped.  It is over for the lazy dog."
> >
>That's not "proper case", that's "sentence case"
>
>Proper case would be
>"The Quick Brown Fox Jumped.  It Is Over For The Lazy Dog."
>
>But the answer in either case is No, you'd have to roll your own
>function.
>
>
>
>--
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>http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
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>Support.
>
>
>
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Wed Jul 30 11:38:14 2003
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:38:14 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
References: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE0633@GUARDIAN_5>
Message-ID: <003901c356b8$f9388d30$b615010a@FHTAPIA>

In the Options > Advance Tab you have a Row Limit for the Client-server
settings (Default Max Rows)  The code way to get to that is to set it as

Application.SetOption "Row Limit", 0

I had to go to the MSDN.microsoft.com site to find that answer as the "named
options" list is wrong in the Access Help, not a little wrong, all the way
wrong :)

Whoo hoo, way to keep us guessing Uncle Bill... ;o)


-Francisco
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On Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:31 AM [GMT-8],
Nicholson, Karen <knicholson at gpsx.net> wrote:

: Do you mean on the options tab in Microsoft Access, if you set the
: "dont display lists where more than this number of records read" to
: 0, it takes off the limit?
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net]
: Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:27 PM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
: Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:
:
: Oh my, that is intuitive!
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net]
: Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:26 PM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
: Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:
:
: Thanks Doris :)
:
: -Francisco
: http://rcm.netfirms.com
:
: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:53 PM [GMT-8],
: Mike and Doris Manning <mikedorism at ntelos.net> wrote:
:
:: If you set the default to 0, it will always return all the records.
::
:: Doris Manning
:: Database Administrator
:: Hargrove Inc.
:: www.hargroveinc.com
::
::
:: -----Original Message-----
:: From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
:: [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
:: Francisco H Tapia
:: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:55 PM
:: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
:: Cc: SQL Server 2k List
:: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
::
::
:: My co-worker found an option in Access for the amount of records to
:: limit the return to, in Access it is defaulted to 10k, for my home
:: version it is set to this limit as well as here at work, but at home
:: the results are as expected, at work I had to modify this result to >
:: 10,000 records, I chose as a test 100,000,000 which yields the
:: correct results.
::
: <snip>
:
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From mikedorism at ntelos.net  Wed Jul 30 12:19:45 2003
From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:19:45 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
In-Reply-To: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE0633@GUARDIAN_5>
Message-ID: <000001c356be$c9e5ee50$6e380cd8@hargrove.internal>

Yes.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:31 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Do you mean on the options tab in Microsoft Access, if you set the "dont
display lists where more than this number of records read" to 0, it takes
off the limit?

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:27 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Oh my, that is intuitive!

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:26 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Thanks Doris :)

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:53 PM [GMT-8],
Mike and Doris Manning <mikedorism at ntelos.net> wrote:

: If you set the default to 0, it will always return all the records.
:
: Doris Manning
: Database Administrator
: Hargrove Inc.
: www.hargroveinc.com
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
: [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
: Francisco H Tapia
: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:55 PM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
: Cc: SQL Server 2k List
: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:
:
: My co-worker found an option in Access for the amount of records to
: limit the return to, in Access it is defaulted to 10k, for my home
: version it is set to this limit as well as here at work, but at home
: the results are as expected, at work I had to modify this result to >
: 10,000 records, I chose as a test 100,000,000 which yields the
: correct results.
:
<snip>


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From knicholson at gpsx.net  Wed Jul 30 13:25:34 2003
From: knicholson at gpsx.net (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:25:34 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
Message-ID: <E9B1A11A598ED411B00E00508BDC9C3D05EE0658@GUARDIAN_5>

No code needed.  Just set to zero.  How wonderful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:20 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Yes.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:31 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Do you mean on the options tab in Microsoft Access, if you set the "dont
display lists where more than this number of records read" to 0, it takes
off the limit?

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:27 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Oh my, that is intuitive!

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:26 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't


Thanks Doris :)

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:53 PM [GMT-8],
Mike and Doris Manning <mikedorism at ntelos.net> wrote:

: If you set the default to 0, it will always return all the records.
:
: Doris Manning
: Database Administrator
: Hargrove Inc.
: www.hargroveinc.com
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
: [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
: Francisco H Tapia
: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:55 PM
: To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
: Cc: SQL Server 2k List
: Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sproc runs and then it doesn't
:
:
: My co-worker found an option in Access for the amount of records to
: limit the return to, in Access it is defaulted to 10k, for my home
: version it is set to this limit as well as here at work, but at home
: the results are as expected, at work I had to modify this result to >
: 10,000 records, I chose as a test 100,000,000 which yields the
: correct results.
:
<snip>


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From sgeller at cce.umn.edu  Wed Jul 30 12:44:37 2003
From: sgeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Geller)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:44:37 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures
Message-ID: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01119EC4@ccemail2.cce.local>

Karen,

The short answer is that yes you can do this through Access.  You need
to execute the sproc from Access passing the parameter.  Here's sample
code:

'Create command object and assign a valid connection to the Command.
    Dim CmdCreate As ADODB.Command
    Set CmdCreate = New ADODB.Command
    Set CmdCreate.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
    CmdCreate.CommandType = adCmdStoredProc

'Assign properities of the command object.
            CmdCreate.CommandText = "p_AddProgramRecord"  --put the name
of your sproc here
            CmdCreate.Parameters.Item("@AcadPlan").Value =
cboAcadPlan.Column(0)   -- put the paramter here and what to pass to it
from your form
            
' Execute stored procedure 
            CmdCreate.Execute
'Clean up
            Set CmdCreate = Nothing

You'll have to change your sproc so that it accepts an input parmater.
The thing I'm not sure about is if you can keep your sproc as is with
just replacing the '21%' with the input paramter @myParameter.  I think
with the like syntax you are going to have to build the whole sql as a
string and execute the string at the end.  That would be much less
efficient in terms of sprocs.  

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:10 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures


What we are doing is switching systems that record incoming signals from
alarms from the B32 environment to a new receiver.  We will be doing
testing in batches with the phone company, taking blocks of our
customers by CS_no (which is the little box that hangs on your wall for
our security systems). The phone company will call, we will change the
"special" field for the specified block of customers to the modified
"newspecial" field.  I have another routine to reverse if all goes
wrong, but this is the stored procedure, with the place that needs to be
changed clearly marked.

I would like my user to be able to run this from Access specifying his
block as needed so I don't have to sit with him at 2:00 in the morning
just to change a piece of code.  
Here is the sproc:

CREATE procedure gps_SpecialSystem as

SET CONCAT_NULL_YIELDS_NULL OFF

truncate table gps_specialsystemdata
insert gps_specialsystemdata(
          system_no,
          cs_no,
          special,
          newspecial,
          length)
   
SELECT system_no, 
               cs_no, 
               special,
               special+'RSI' ,
               len(special) as length
FROM system

WHERE (
/********************************************************************/
/***THIS IS THE CS NUMBER GROUPING TO CHANGE***/
(cs_no LIKE '21%') 
/********************************************************************/
and
(len(special) in (1,2,3) or
special is null))

update  gps_specialsystemdata
set exception=1
where special <> 'SUB'

update system
set system.special=gps_specialsystemdata.newspecial

FROM gps_SpecialSystemData
where 
    gps_SpecialSystemData.system_no = system.system_no AND 
    gps_SpecialSystemData.cs_no = system.cs_no






-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Geller [mailto:sgeller at cce.umn.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:58 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures


Karen,

A few ways to do this depending on what you want to do with the sproc
when it gets the parameter.  Does it just do something on it's own or
does it return a recordset and if so what do you want to do with the
recordset?

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:59 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer]A2K-SQL Stored Procedures


Is it possible to build a front-end in A2K to execute stored procedures
in SQL version 7?  I need to allow the user to enter in a parameter that
is in the stored procedure, if it is possible to create a parameter in
SQL that is determined by a combo box in Access.  ???? Thanks. 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jul 31 14:59:34 2003
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:59:34 -0700
Subject: [dba-VB] [dba-SQLServer]	[AccessD] ADO Control With Stored
 Procedure as Recordset
References: <20030728091159.SGIT12389.fep02-svc.ttys.com@localhost>
Message-ID: <3F297526.2020006@shaw.ca>

This might work
Assuming you have an ADO Data control called Ado1 - you can put up two
input boxes and get the params you want - set the CommandType and
RecordSource properties of the ADO Data control in
code by which you pass the parameters to the SQL stored procedure.  Make
sure that you put some dummy parameters in for the RecordSource property in
design mode which you can null out in code before setting the RecordSource
property again.

    Dim intCustomers As Integer
    Dim lngPeriod As Long
    intCustomers = InputBox("Customer :", "Enter a Value")
    lngPeriod = InputBox("Date YYYYMMDD:", "Enter Date")
    strRecordSource = "MyProcData;1(" & intCustomers & "," & lngPeriod & ")"
    'watch wrap and spaces
    Ado1.ConnectionString = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Integrated
Security=SSPI;Persist Security Info=False;Initial Catalog=DatabaseName;Data
Source=YourMachineName"
    Ado1.ConnectionTimeout = 30
    Ado1.CommandType = adCmdStoredProc
    Ado1.RecordSource = ""
    Ado1.RecordSource = strRecordSource
    Ado1.Refresh

paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

>To all,
>
>I have a SQL Server 7.0 BE, with a Visual Basic 6 FE.  In SQl Server 7.0 I have a stored procedure which requires two parameters (Payroll, JobDate) and this returns all the jobs that a person is programmed to do.  On my VB6 FE I have a form with a DataGrid and an ADO Control, with the Datagrid pointing to the ADO Control for it's datasource.  When the form opens I want to pass the payroll and jobdate to the SQL Server stored procedure and return the results to the ADO Control which will then be displayed in the DataGrid.
>
>Is there anyone out there that can tell me how to do this, or has some sample code that I could look at to show me exactly how this can be acheived.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Paul Hartland
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