Djabarov, Robert
Robert.Djabarov at usaa.com
Tue Oct 7 14:10:01 CDT 2003
Read the job posting -----Original Message----- From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 2:12 PM To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]ODBC connection - Is this normal Please explain to me the lacking substance in an Access ADP. Djabarov, Robert wrote: > So I guess you're more concerned about "on time" rather than the > substance, huh? Good luck to you too :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Francisco H Tapia > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:43 AM > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]ODBC connection - Is this normal > > > I don't want to get into an MS Access vs Other Tools argument. The > fact > > is that if you've never used .ADP's then you either don't know what > you're talking about, or you gave up due to lack of documentation. It's > > all the same after all. I won't knock ASP nor VB/.net (even C#) > development, however IME, it's far quicker to develop in an Access ADP > than it is in ASP, VB, .Net, C# (whathaveyou) even when you are not > "BINDING" the forms, to Tables/Views/Sprocs. Almost every other > environment requires additional development time. And w/ Access ADP's, > you can still access advanced Windows Features and API's or 3rd party > .DLL's etc. There really is no limit. > > Additionally the Rules have also changed in SQL Server in which > Dynamic > SQL (aka On-The-Fly SQL) is frowned upon for more than just performance > deficits, but because it exposes your tables... That being said. > Sometimes it may seem necessary to use Dynamic SQL, but w/ proper > planning and effort you can overcome most of those hurdles. > > Djabarov, Robert wrote: > >>Wow, so choosing the right tool for the job is as bad as body > > piercing, > >>whips and chains? AND, you dare to call it "framework"????? >>"On-The-Fly SQL Statements"???? Man, I must be missing something very > > >>simple, and wasted all my life not being able to see it...wonder what >>the heck it is... Oh, I get it, it's MS Access used as a RAD tool!!!! >> >>Good luck >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John >>Colby >>Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 2:17 AM >>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com >>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]ODBC connection - Is this normal >> >> >> >> >>>>Very normal. It's also normal to drop Access as your FE and do >> >>everything using something more robust like C#, C++, or even VB. >> >>Yea, in the same circles where it is normal to tie each other up, >>pierce body parts and use whips and chains for sexually deviant >>purposes. >> >> >> >>>Or even abandoning the .mdb part of Access and building it as an ADP, >>>then >> >>that problem goes away completely and you still retain some of the RAD > > >>attributes of building it w/ Access. >> >>True. And for those of you who don't use a framework, or who designed > > >>their framework from the ground up to use SQL Server that is certainly > > >>an option. My framework does things not easily ported to SQL Server >>(on-the-fly SQL Statements referencing form controls for example). >>One of the reasons that I moved my billing app to SQL Server is to >>slowly start the process of porting the framework. To this point, >>life has gotten in the way of THAT project. >> >>John W. Colby >>www.colbyconsulting.com >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of >>Francisco H Tapia >>Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:10 AM >>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com >>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]ODBC connection - Is this normal >> >> >>Djabarov, Robert wrote: >> >> >>>Very normal. It's also normal to drop Access as your FE and do >>>everything using something more robust like C#, C++, or even VB. >>> >> >> >>Or even abandoning the .mdb part of Access and building it as an ADP, >>then that problem goes away completely and you still retain some of >>the RAD attributes of building it w/ Access. >> > > > -- -Francisco _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com