[dba-SQLServer] Re: Difference between views and queries

Billy Pang tuxedo_man at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 30 15:37:49 CDT 2004


A database could be not normalized for reporting reasons, isn't that true?
difference between OLTP and OLAP?

Billy


>From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Re: Difference between views and queries
>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:17:41 -0500
>
>Francis,
>
>Actually the reason most databases are not fully normalized is not 
>laziness, but ignorance.  Most DBA's know nothing about normalization and 
>many developers even less.  And, yes I would make such a blanket statement.
>
>Robert
>
>At 12:01 PM 30/06/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:21:12 -0400
>>From: Francis Harvey <HARVEYF1 at WESTAT.com>
>>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Difference between views and queries
>>To: "'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'"
>>         <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Message-ID:
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>>Arthur,
>>
>>More often than not?
>>
>> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
>> > Of Arthur Fuller
>> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 4:23 PM
>> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Difference between views and queries
>> >
>> >
>> > 1. I haven't yet seen a case where dynamic SQL is necessary. All it
>> > takes to avoid it is one or more well-constructed sprocs, IMO.
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
>> > Of Arthur Fuller
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:19 PM
>> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Difference between views and queries
>> >
>><snip>
>>
>> > I think dynamic SQL is for the lazy. So there, I said it.
>>
>>You really would characterize your responses as that balanced? I find
>>your current restatement far more agreeable. Of course, I could add
>>similar comments about people who's databases aren't fully normalized.
>>Most of the time it is due to laziness and causes inefficiency and
>>requires greater coding. Yet, sometimes it is necessary. Would you
>>then make those same statements from above about everyone whose database
>>isn't fully normalized? I would think you would at least be curious as
>>to why it was done before making such blanket statements.
>
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