From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Oct  1 09:33:47 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:33:47 -0400 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Is this the best way?
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738B4@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>

What I need is a district Weighted GPA for our state.

Here is what I did and I want to know if it is the most efficient way of
doing it.

1)       I created 2 views per school type

a.       Elementary

                                                               i.      All
Elementary Schools

                                                             ii.
everyone in grades preK - 5 of combo schools

b.       Middle

                                                               i.      All
Middle Schools

                                                             ii.
Everyone in grades 6 - 8 of combo schools

c.       High

                                                               i.      All
High Schools

                                                             ii.
Everyone in grades 9 & 10 of combo schools

2)       I created a view for each type using the union query code you all
helped me with (Thank you very much, by the way)

3)       I created a view for each type using the views in 2) to calculate a
wgpa for the school

4)       I created a view for each type using the views in 3) to calculate
the WGPA for each district

I am thinking I could have done all this in the QA and maybe only created
three views at the end.  I need to be able to export the final results to
Excel.

The job got done the way I did it, I just want to see if there might be an
easier/more efficient way.

 

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Fri Oct  1 11:52:20 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:52:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Re: Union query
In-Reply-To: <200410011433.i91EXoL13589@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041001114850.013228c8@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

You should also not use the SELECT * for a union query.
You should name the columns in both sides of the union
making sure you order them correctly by matching data
and data types.  If someone changes the structure of
one of the tables, your union, the way you are doing
it, will stop working.

SELECT NameID, LastName + ', ' + FirstName FROM tblEmployee
UNION ALL
SELECT CustID, CustName FROM tblCustomer

as an example

Robert


At 09:33 AM 10/1/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:34:16 -0400
>From: "Klos, Susan" <Susan.Klos at fldoe.org>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Union query
>To: "'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'"
>         <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738AD at DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>Please be kind.  I am doing this from an Access viewpoint and am having
>trouble making a transition.
>
>I have created a union query:
>
>Select *
>
> >From     dbo.schoolEnrollmentNumberselemonly  (this is a view)
>
>Union all
>
>Select *
>
> >From     dbo.SchoolEnrollmentNumberselemcombo (this is a view)
>
>
>
>Now I need to be able to call this query in another view.  Is this possible?
>How?
>
>
>
>Susan Klos




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Oct  3 13:44:48 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:44:48 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Cross posted - Folding@home
Message-ID: <001301c4a979$12b14180$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I just wanted to call everyone's attention to Folding at home.  I know a lot of
you know about this project, I did and got involved for awhile (through
Google's team I think) but over time forgot about it.  

http://folding.stanford.edu/

Folding at home is a project by Stanford University which essentially builds a
mega super computer created by using our home / office computers to form a
huge network capable of thousands of times more processing power than even
the largest dedicated super computers.  

http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html

Will take you directly to a page where you can see some statistics for the
supercomputer as it exists at this instant in time.

This system downloads an executable onto a computer which runs in the idle
thread.  This means that while the CPU utilized jumps to 100%, it is all
idle time ad if your programs need CPU cycles folding at home will not
interfere with your program in any way.

I had 4 3ghz computers sitting in my home office doing nothing.  They are
now contributing to mankind's knowledgebase.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct  5 08:33:56 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
In-Reply-To: <001301c4a979$12b14180$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go create a view to
use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the query analyzer.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct  5 10:26:04 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:26:04 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AA0@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If you right click on a table in EM and select Open-->Query, you can
build and test a query on the fly without saving it as a view.  Does
that help?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 6:34 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer


Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go create a view
to use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the query
analyzer.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct  5 10:42:45 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:42:45 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AA0@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <001d01c4aaf1$f8a946a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Well, yes and no.  I can do that by new / view and not save the view.  The
biggest problem is that things time out in EM whereas they don't in QA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:26 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer


If you right click on a table in EM and select Open-->Query, you can build
and test a query on the fly without saving it as a view.  Does that help?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 6:34 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer


Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go create a view to
use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the query analyzer.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 12:55:54 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 10:55:54 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
In-Reply-To: <001d01c4aaf1$f8a946a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AA0@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<001d01c4aaf1$f8a946a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a04100510554e056e54@mail.gmail.com>

well.. if you are using QA, open the object browser (F8) and you will
have access to your Tables/columns.. it's a matter of dragging and
dropping names.  However to actually create joins etc, you'll need to
type.

IMNSHO, EM sometimes creates confusing joins that don't necessarily
exploit the speed of Sql Server.


On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:42:45 -0400, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Well, yes and no.  I can do that by new / view and not save the view.  The
> biggest problem is that things time out in EM whereas they don't in QA.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:26 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
> 
> If you right click on a table in EM and select Open-->Query, you can build
> and test a query on the fly without saving it as a view.  Does that help?
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 6:34 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
> 
> Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go create a view to
> use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the query analyzer.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
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From DavidL at sierranevada.com  Tue Oct  5 13:00:22 2004
From: DavidL at sierranevada.com (David Lewis)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:00:22 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
Message-ID: <9923336B7F4D1A459B983065D95397B92CC9D6@pale.sierranevada.corp>


Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning curve when moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit of work, but it is well worth it.  After a time, trying to build a query in an access-like GUI is so aggravating that you will want to stick to QA.  For one thing, it allows you far more flexibility (subselects, case statements, derived tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  Again, it is well worth the effort.


> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go 
> create a view to
> use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the 
> query analyzer.
> 
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> 
> > 


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 13:45:45 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:45:45 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
In-Reply-To: <9923336B7F4D1A459B983065D95397B92CC9D6@pale.sierranevada.corp>
References: <9923336B7F4D1A459B983065D95397B92CC9D6@pale.sierranevada.corp>
Message-ID: <b874372a04100511456f691e70@mail.gmail.com>

well said!


On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:00:22 -0700, David Lewis <davidl at sierranevada.com> wrote:
> 
> Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning curve when moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit of work, but it is well worth it.  After a time, trying to build a query in an access-like GUI is so aggravating that you will want to stick to QA.  For one thing, it allows you far more flexibility (subselects, case statements, derived tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  Again, it is well worth the effort.
> 
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
> > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go
> > create a view to
> > use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the
> > query analyzer.
> >
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >
> > >
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From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Tue Oct  5 13:59:15 2004
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 10:59:15 -0800
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4DF7@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>

I even write straight SQL in Access about half the time now, since moving to SQL Server a few years ago.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David
> Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:00 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> 
> 
> 
> Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning 
> curve when moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit 
> of work, but it is well worth it.  After a time, trying to 
> build a query in an access-like GUI is so aggravating that 
> you will want to stick to QA.  For one thing, it allows you 
> far more flexibility (subselects, case statements, derived 
> tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  Again, it is well worth 
> the effort.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
> > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go 
> > create a view to
> > use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the 
> > query analyzer.
> > 
> > 
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct  5 14:18:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:18:43 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
In-Reply-To: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4DF7@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c4ab10$252bf240$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

OK well, will you come to my house for a couple of days.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Porter,
Mark
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:59 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer


I even write straight SQL in Access about half the time now, since moving to
SQL Server a few years ago.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David 
> Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:00 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> 
> 
> 
> Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning
> curve when moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit 
> of work, but it is well worth it.  After a time, trying to 
> build a query in an access-like GUI is so aggravating that 
> you will want to stick to QA.  For one thing, it allows you 
> far more flexibility (subselects, case statements, derived 
> tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  Again, it is well worth 
> the effort.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
> > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go
> > create a view to
> > use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the 
> > query analyzer.
> > 
> > 
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > 
> > 
> > > 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 14:38:05 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 12:38:05 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
In-Reply-To: <001e01c4ab10$252bf240$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
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	<001e01c4ab10$252bf240$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a041005123870931964@mail.gmail.com>

you paying the air-fare? WOW :D... I'd like to try out Jet Blue, thanks :D


On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:18:43 -0400, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> OK well, will you come to my house for a couple of days.  ;-)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Porter,
> Mark
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:59 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> 
> I even write straight SQL in Access about half the time now, since moving to
> SQL Server a few years ago.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David
> > Lewis
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:00 AM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> >
> >
> >
> > Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning
> > curve when moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit
> > of work, but it is well worth it.  After a time, trying to
> > build a query in an access-like GUI is so aggravating that
> > you will want to stick to QA.  For one thing, it allows you
> > far more flexibility (subselects, case statements, derived
> > tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  Again, it is well worth
> > the effort.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
> > > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go
> > > create a view to
> > > use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the
> > > query analyzer.
> > >
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Oct  5 16:01:25 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:01:25 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Open a text file from SQL Server
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738B4@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738B4@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <41630BA5.5070105@rogers.com>

Can someone tell me how to open a text file from SQL Server? And place 
its contents into a memory variable? I'm looking at OPENXML but all its 
examples use text that is assigned to a variable from within the 
example, rather than read in from an XML or just a text file. It looks 
like full text search will do it, but that's a lot of install overhead 
just to read in a file. Is there a simpler way?

TIA,
Arthur


From artful at rogers.com  Tue Oct  5 16:34:39 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:34:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
In-Reply-To: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <4163136F.80306@rogers.com>

John W. Colby wrote:

>Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go create a view to
>use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the query analyzer.
>
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>
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>
>  
>
Myself, I use Access as my QBE query builder. Just create a view using 
the QBE, then switch to SQL view, copy the text, then paste it into QA.
Frequently I name the views within Access, using an underscore as the 
leading character, so they drift to the bottom of the sort. That way I 
know what's junk and what isn't.
One more thing. Moving back and forth this way, you will discover that 
QA doesn't necessarily know that you've just created a new view or 
procedure. Select the apprpriate node and requery (F5) to get them back 
in synch.


From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Tue Oct  5 16:51:38 2004
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 13:51:38 -0800
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4DFE@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>

That's lotsa airfare from Alaska - but I'd take you up on it!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf 
> Of John W.
> Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:19 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> 
> 
> OK well, will you come to my house for a couple of days.  ;-)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Porter,
> Mark
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:59 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> 
> 
> I even write straight SQL in Access about half the time now, 
> since moving to
> SQL Server a few years ago.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On 
> Behalf Of David 
> > Lewis
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:00 AM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning
> > curve when moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit 
> > of work, but it is well worth it.  After a time, trying to 
> > build a query in an access-like GUI is so aggravating that 
> > you will want to stick to QA.  For one thing, it allows you 
> > far more flexibility (subselects, case statements, derived 
> > tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  Again, it is well worth 
> > the effort.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
> > > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > 
> > > Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go
> > > create a view to
> > > use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the 
> > > query analyzer.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > John W. Colby
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
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> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
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> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Wed Oct  6 07:36:14 2004
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 22:36:14 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Open a text file from SQL Server
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D01011C03@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Arthur,

Not sure what you mean by memory variable (in sql I think table) but a
couple of ideas come to mind...
Can you set up an OBDC connection to the text file and treat it as a
linked server?
Or DTS it into a table...

cheers

Michael M



Can someone tell me how to open a text file from SQL Server? And place
its contents into a memory variable? I'm looking at OPENXML but all its
examples use text that is assigned to a variable from within the
example, rather than read in from an XML or just a text file. It looks
like full text search will do it, but that's a lot of install overhead
just to read in a file. Is there a simpler way?

TIA,
Arthur
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  6 13:02:48 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:02:48 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Open a text file from SQL Server
Message-ID: <BAY1-F19ZhotjCjWEF0000119f8@hotmail.com>

there is:

declare @file_location varchar(255)
declare @exec_stat varchar(255)
SET @file_location = 'C:\myFile.txt'
SET @exec_stat = 'type ' + @file_location
EXEC master.dbo.xp_cmdshell @exec_stat

note: it's not perfect because text in the variable is "word wrapped".

Billy



>From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Open a text file from SQL Server
>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 22:36:14 +1000
>
>Arthur,
>
>Not sure what you mean by memory variable (in sql I think table) but a
>couple of ideas come to mind...
>Can you set up an OBDC connection to the text file and treat it as a
>linked server?
>Or DTS it into a table...
>
>cheers
>
>Michael M
>
>
>
>Can someone tell me how to open a text file from SQL Server? And place
>its contents into a memory variable? I'm looking at OPENXML but all its
>examples use text that is assigned to a variable from within the
>example, rather than read in from an XML or just a text file. It looks
>like full text search will do it, but that's a lot of install overhead
>just to read in a file. Is there a simpler way?
>
>TIA,
>Arthur
>_______________________________________________
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Oct  6 14:53:27 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:53:27 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F19ZhotjCjWEF0000119f8@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c4abde$25e72050$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hi folks

Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He has a 3rd party
package specific to companies in the printing industry, and wants a simple
contact management system which will link to the client data in this
package. I suspect (but am not sure) that the package uses a SQL Server
database. If I'm correct (and I've already asked how best to see if it's SQL
Server d/b, thanks for help on that) and it is SQL Server then I'd like to
see if I can link to it successfully. So, if I start from the worst case
scenario that they won't have any software capable of linking to SQL Server
does anyone have or know of any free utility which will fit on a CD that I
could use just to look at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL
vintage?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 



From CMackin at quiznos.com  Wed Oct  6 15:08:24 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFA1@snowmass.quiznos.net>

One simple way is to just create a text file and then rename it to .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it using the avaialble Providers.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy
Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?


Hi folks

Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He has a 3rd party
package specific to companies in the printing industry, and wants a simple
contact management system which will link to the client data in this
package. I suspect (but am not sure) that the package uses a SQL Server
database. If I'm correct (and I've already asked how best to see if it's SQL
Server d/b, thanks for help on that) and it is SQL Server then I'd like to
see if I can link to it successfully. So, if I start from the worst case
scenario that they won't have any software capable of linking to SQL Server
does anyone have or know of any free utility which will fit on a CD that I
could use just to look at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL
vintage?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 16:36:22 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:36:22 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFA1@snowmass.quiznos.net>
References: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFA1@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a041006143643860f8@mail.gmail.com>

Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql Server on it,
look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where the executable
file name is sqlservr.exe



On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher
<cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> One simple way is to just create a text file and then rename it to .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it using the avaialble Providers.
> 
> -Chris Mackin
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy
> Lacey
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He has a 3rd party
> package specific to companies in the printing industry, and wants a simple
> contact management system which will link to the client data in this
> package. I suspect (but am not sure) that the package uses a SQL Server
> database. If I'm correct (and I've already asked how best to see if it's SQL
> Server d/b, thanks for help on that) and it is SQL Server then I'd like to
> see if I can link to it successfully. So, if I start from the worst case
> scenario that they won't have any software capable of linking to SQL Server
> does anyone have or know of any free utility which will fit on a CD that I
> could use just to look at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL
> vintage?
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 
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> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 


-- 
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Oct  6 19:00:39 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:00:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
In-Reply-To: <b874372a041005123870931964@mail.gmail.com>
References: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4DF7@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>	<001e01c4ab10$252bf240$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
	<b874372a041005123870931964@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41648727.2020001@rogers.com>

Francisco Tapia wrote:

>you paying the air-fare? WOW :D... I'd like to try out Jet Blue, thanks :D
>
>
>On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:18:43 -0400, John W. Colby
><jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>OK well, will you come to my house for a couple of days.  ;-)
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Porter,
>>Mark
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:59 PM
>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
>>
>>I even write straight SQL in Access about half the time now, since moving to
>>SQL Server a few years ago.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David
>>>Lewis
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:00 AM
>>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning
>>>curve when moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit
>>>of work, but it is well worth it.  After a time, trying to
>>>build a query in an access-like GUI is so aggravating that
>>>you will want to stick to QA.  For one thing, it allows you
>>>far more flexibility (subselects, case statements, derived
>>>tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  Again, it is well worth
>>>the effort.
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Message: 1
>>>>Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
>>>>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>>>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
>>>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>>Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go
>>>>create a view to
>>>>use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the
>>>>query analyzer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John W. Colby
>>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>>>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>>>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>
In BOL, there are numerous references to something called Visual 
Database Tools (look in the Contents under Using the SQL Server Tools. 
They talk in here about a Visual Query Designer. Where does this thing 
live? I've never seen it!

Arthur


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct  6 19:22:18 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 17:22:18 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AAD@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Could they be referring to the Create View Wizard??

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:01 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer


Francisco Tapia wrote:

>you paying the air-fare? WOW :D... I'd like to try out Jet Blue, thanks

>:D
>
>
>On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:18:43 -0400, John W. Colby 
><jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>OK well, will you come to my house for a couple of days.  ;-)
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Porter, Mark
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:59 PM
>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
>>
>>I even write straight SQL in Access about half the time now, since 
>>moving to SQL Server a few years ago.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David

>>>Lewis
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:00 AM
>>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning curve when 
>>>moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit of work, but it is 
>>>well worth it.  After a time, trying to build a query in an 
>>>access-like GUI is so aggravating that you will want to stick to QA.

>>>For one thing, it allows you far more flexibility (subselects, case 
>>>statements, derived tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  Again, it is 
>>>well worth the effort.
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Message: 1
>>>>Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
>>>>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>>>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
>>>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>>Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go create a 
>>>>view to use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the
>>>>query analyzer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John W. Colby
>>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>>>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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for
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notify
>>us immediately by reply or by telephone (collect at 907-564-1000) and
ask to
>>speak with the message sender. In addition, please immediately delete
this
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>
In BOL, there are numerous references to something called Visual 
Database Tools (look in the Contents under Using the SQL Server Tools. 
They talk in here about a Visual Query Designer. Where does this thing 
live? I've never seen it!

Arthur
_______________________________________________
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From ridermark at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 20:12:24 2004
From: ridermark at gmail.com (Mark Rider)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:12:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
In-Reply-To: <41648727.2020001@rogers.com>
References: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4DF7@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>
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> In BOL, there are numerous references to something called Visual
> Database Tools (look in the Contents under Using the SQL Server Tools.
> They talk in here about a Visual Query Designer. Where does this thing
> live? I've never seen it!
> 

Visual Database Tools are included in Visual Studio. They are there
for the programmers to better handle writing queries.  Although they
are helpful, you get the same kind of thing in EM.

I personally prefer QA for testing the queries I write in my .NET
apps.  Much more control of the details, and I can always use EM to
see what I might be missing.  The VD Tools are not a lot of help as
far as I have seen.

-- 
Mark Rider
http://commonsensesecurity.info


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 01:38:50 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:38:50 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
In-Reply-To: <b874372a041006143643860f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000501c4ac38$4e313410$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Thanks Francisco
That'll help ascertain if it's Sql Server, but presumably the database can
be secured and prevent me linking to it. So I was looking for a "browsing
tool" to check whether that is the case or if I can freely get at the data.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: 06 October 2004 22:36
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql Server 
> on it, look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where 
> the executable file name is sqlservr.exe
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher 
> <cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> > One simple way is to just create a text file and then rename it to 
> > .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it using the 
> > avaialble Providers.
> > 
> > -Chris Mackin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On 
> Behalf Of Andy 
> > Lacey
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > Hi folks
> > 
> > Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He 
> has a 3rd 
> > party package specific to companies in the printing industry, and 
> > wants a simple contact management system which will link to 
> the client 
> > data in this package. I suspect (but am not sure) that the package 
> > uses a SQL Server database. If I'm correct (and I've 
> already asked how 
> > best to see if it's SQL Server d/b, thanks for help on 
> that) and it is 
> > SQL Server then I'd like to see if I can link to it 
> successfully. So, 
> > if I start from the worst case scenario that they won't have any 
> > software capable of linking to SQL Server does anyone have 
> or know of 
> > any free utility which will fit on a CD that I could use 
> just to look 
> > at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL vintage?
> > 
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -Francisco
> <a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news with 
> out the jargon</a> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 



From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Thu Oct  7 06:50:09 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:50:09 -0400 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738C9@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>

Someone on Accessd, years ago, developed a small Access database that wrote
sql code.  It was a great little tool, and I thought it would be useful for
folks who didn't use the qbe in Access.  I have since lost it due to
changing machines several times.  Does anyone else remember this tool?  It
might be helpful, I don't know.  I haven't even looked at it for years.

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Evaluation and Reporting
Florida Department of Education
850-245-0708 
sc 205-0708
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:22 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer

Could they be referring to the Create View Wizard??

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:01 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer


Francisco Tapia wrote:

>you paying the air-fare? WOW :D... I'd like to try out Jet Blue, thanks

>:D
>
>
>On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:18:43 -0400, John W. Colby 
><jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>OK well, will you come to my house for a couple of days.  ;-)
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Porter, Mark
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:59 PM
>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
>>
>>I even write straight SQL in Access about half the time now, since 
>>moving to SQL Server a few years ago.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David

>>>Lewis
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:00 AM
>>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning curve when 
>>>moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit of work, but it is 
>>>well worth it.  After a time, trying to build a query in an 
>>>access-like GUI is so aggravating that you will want to stick to QA.

>>>For one thing, it allows you far more flexibility (subselects, case 
>>>statements, derived tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  Again, it is 
>>>well worth the effort.
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Message: 1
>>>>Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
>>>>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>>>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
>>>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>>Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go create a 
>>>>view to use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the sql into the
>>>>query analyzer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John W. Colby
>>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
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In BOL, there are numerous references to something called Visual 
Database Tools (look in the Contents under Using the SQL Server Tools. 
They talk in here about a Visual Query Designer. Where does this thing 
live? I've never seen it!

Arthur
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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Thu Oct  7 08:28:59 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:28:59 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFA4@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Andy,

The .udl will allow you to test the connection and will let you know if the username and password you provide (or Windows Authentication) are valid ways of connecting.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy
Lacey
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:39 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?


Thanks Francisco
That'll help ascertain if it's Sql Server, but presumably the database can
be secured and prevent me linking to it. So I was looking for a "browsing
tool" to check whether that is the case or if I can freely get at the data.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: 06 October 2004 22:36
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql Server 
> on it, look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where 
> the executable file name is sqlservr.exe
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher 
> <cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> > One simple way is to just create a text file and then rename it to 
> > .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it using the 
> > avaialble Providers.
> > 
> > -Chris Mackin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On 
> Behalf Of Andy 
> > Lacey
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > Hi folks
> > 
> > Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He 
> has a 3rd 
> > party package specific to companies in the printing industry, and 
> > wants a simple contact management system which will link to 
> the client 
> > data in this package. I suspect (but am not sure) that the package 
> > uses a SQL Server database. If I'm correct (and I've 
> already asked how 
> > best to see if it's SQL Server d/b, thanks for help on 
> that) and it is 
> > SQL Server then I'd like to see if I can link to it 
> successfully. So, 
> > if I start from the worst case scenario that they won't have any 
> > software capable of linking to SQL Server does anyone have 
> or know of 
> > any free utility which will fit on a CD that I could use 
> just to look 
> > at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL vintage?
> > 
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -Francisco
> <a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news with 
> out the jargon</a> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Oct  7 08:32:47 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:32:47 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Open a text file from SQL Server
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F19ZhotjCjWEF0000119f8@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY1-F19ZhotjCjWEF0000119f8@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <4165457F.7030809@rogers.com>

Billy Pang wrote:

> there is:
>
> declare @file_location varchar(255)
> declare @exec_stat varchar(255)
> SET @file_location = 'C:\myFile.txt'
> SET @exec_stat = 'type ' + @file_location
> EXEC master.dbo.xp_cmdshell @exec_stat
>
> note: it's not perfect because text in the variable is "word wrapped".
>
> Billy
>
Does this give me the contents of the file in a variable? That's what I 
really need. Maybe it does, but I don't see how, or which variable will 
contain the returned text.

Arthur



From HARVEYF1 at WESTAT.com  Thu Oct  7 10:18:48 2004
From: HARVEYF1 at WESTAT.com (Francis Harvey)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 11:18:48 -0400 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Open a text file from SQL Server
Message-ID: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0481EAD9@remail2.westat.com>

Arthur,

Perhaps bcp with an appropriate format file into a temporary table
which can then be loaded into a variable? I actually did this for a
binary file with a temporary table that had an image field, but I
could work out a text example if it would be of interest.

Francis R Harvey III
WB 303, (301)294-3952
harveyf1 at westat.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:01 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Open a text file from SQL Server
> 
> 
> Can someone tell me how to open a text file from SQL Server? 
> And place 
> its contents into a memory variable? I'm looking at OPENXML 
> but all its 
> examples use text that is assigned to a variable from within the 
> example, rather than read in from an XML or just a text file. 
> It looks 
> like full text search will do it, but that's a lot of install 
> overhead 
> just to read in a file. Is there a simpler way?
> 
> TIA,
> Arthur
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> 


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 12:04:09 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:04:09 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFA4@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <000001c4ac8f$a9825bd0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I'm sorry Chris but I'm a SQL Server novice and I don't understand what
you're suggesting. I don't know what a UDL is. And what would I test the
connection with, and how?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mackin, Christopher
> Sent: 07 October 2004 14:29
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Andy,
> 
> The .udl will allow you to test the connection and will let 
> you know if the username and password you provide (or Windows 
> Authentication) are valid ways of connecting.
> 
> -Chris Mackin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf 
> Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:39 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Thanks Francisco
> That'll help ascertain if it's Sql Server, but presumably the 
> database can be secured and prevent me linking to it. So I 
> was looking for a "browsing tool" to check whether that is 
> the case or if I can freely get at the data.
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Francisco Tapia
> > Sent: 06 October 2004 22:36
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql Server
> > on it, look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where 
> > the executable file name is sqlservr.exe
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher
> > <cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> > > One simple way is to just create a text file and then rename it to
> > > .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it 
> using the 
> > > avaialble Providers.
> > > 
> > > -Chris Mackin
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > Behalf Of Andy
> > > Lacey
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > Hi folks
> > > 
> > > Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He
> > has a 3rd
> > > party package specific to companies in the printing industry, and
> > > wants a simple contact management system which will link to 
> > the client
> > > data in this package. I suspect (but am not sure) that the package
> > > uses a SQL Server database. If I'm correct (and I've 
> > already asked how
> > > best to see if it's SQL Server d/b, thanks for help on
> > that) and it is
> > > SQL Server then I'd like to see if I can link to it
> > successfully. So,
> > > if I start from the worst case scenario that they won't have any
> > > software capable of linking to SQL Server does anyone have 
> > or know of
> > > any free utility which will fit on a CD that I could use
> > just to look
> > > at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL vintage?
> > > 
> > > -- Andy Lacey
> > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > -Francisco
> > <a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news with 
> > out the jargon</a> _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 



From CMackin at quiznos.com  Thu Oct  7 12:17:10 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 11:17:10 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFAE@snowmass.quiznos.net>

It's just a file that stores a connection string.  All you do is create a text file, then change the file extension from .txt to .udl.
Open it up and you'll see how you do it, it's self-explanatory.

In ADO you can use the .udl file as the connction string as an easy way to get the connection out in the filesystem so you can change it externally.  If you open the .udl in Notepad it will give you a Connection String you can use, but for what you want to do just open and test the connection and it will give you what you want.

-Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy
Lacey
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:04 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?


I'm sorry Chris but I'm a SQL Server novice and I don't understand what
you're suggesting. I don't know what a UDL is. And what would I test the
connection with, and how?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mackin, Christopher
> Sent: 07 October 2004 14:29
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Andy,
> 
> The .udl will allow you to test the connection and will let 
> you know if the username and password you provide (or Windows 
> Authentication) are valid ways of connecting.
> 
> -Chris Mackin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf 
> Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:39 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Thanks Francisco
> That'll help ascertain if it's Sql Server, but presumably the 
> database can be secured and prevent me linking to it. So I 
> was looking for a "browsing tool" to check whether that is 
> the case or if I can freely get at the data.
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Francisco Tapia
> > Sent: 06 October 2004 22:36
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql Server
> > on it, look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where 
> > the executable file name is sqlservr.exe
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher
> > <cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> > > One simple way is to just create a text file and then rename it to
> > > .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it 
> using the 
> > > avaialble Providers.
> > > 
> > > -Chris Mackin
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > Behalf Of Andy
> > > Lacey
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > Hi folks
> > > 
> > > Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He
> > has a 3rd
> > > party package specific to companies in the printing industry, and
> > > wants a simple contact management system which will link to 
> > the client
> > > data in this package. I suspect (but am not sure) that the package
> > > uses a SQL Server database. If I'm correct (and I've 
> > already asked how
> > > best to see if it's SQL Server d/b, thanks for help on
> > that) and it is
> > > SQL Server then I'd like to see if I can link to it
> > successfully. So,
> > > if I start from the worst case scenario that they won't have any
> > > software capable of linking to SQL Server does anyone have 
> > or know of
> > > any free utility which will fit on a CD that I could use
> > just to look
> > > at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL vintage?
> > > 
> > > -- Andy Lacey
> > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > -Francisco
> > <a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news with 
> > out the jargon</a> _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 12:42:04 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:42:04 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFAE@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <000101c4ac94$f5b05d90$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Well I said I was a novice. What should the contents of this .udl look like?
I tried putting what I think is a valid connection string, but if I
double-click on it to open it I get the message "File cannot be opened.
Ensure it is a valid data link file".

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mackin, Christopher
> Sent: 07 October 2004 18:17
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> It's just a file that stores a connection string.  All you do 
> is create a text file, then change the file extension from 
> .txt to .udl. Open it up and you'll see how you do it, it's 
> self-explanatory.
> 
> In ADO you can use the .udl file as the connction string as 
> an easy way to get the connection out in the filesystem so 
> you can change it externally.  If you open the .udl in 
> Notepad it will give you a Connection String you can use, but 
> for what you want to do just open and test the connection and 
> it will give you what you want.
> 
> -Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf 
> Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:04 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> I'm sorry Chris but I'm a SQL Server novice and I don't 
> understand what you're suggesting. I don't know what a UDL 
> is. And what would I test the connection with, and how?
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Mackin, Christopher
> > Sent: 07 October 2004 14:29
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > Andy,
> > 
> > The .udl will allow you to test the connection and will let
> > you know if the username and password you provide (or Windows 
> > Authentication) are valid ways of connecting.
> > 
> > -Chris Mackin
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf
> > Of Andy Lacey
> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:39 AM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks Francisco
> > That'll help ascertain if it's Sql Server, but presumably the
> > database can be secured and prevent me linking to it. So I 
> > was looking for a "browsing tool" to check whether that is 
> > the case or if I can freely get at the data.
> > 
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Francisco Tapia
> > > Sent: 06 October 2004 22:36
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql 
> Server on it, 
> > > look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where the 
> executable 
> > > file name is sqlservr.exe
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher 
> > > <cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> > > > One simple way is to just create a text file and then 
> rename it to 
> > > > .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it
> > using the
> > > > avaialble Providers.
> > > > 
> > > > -Chris Mackin
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Andy
> > > > Lacey
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> > > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > > 
> > > > Hi folks
> > > > 
> > > > Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He
> > > has a 3rd
> > > > party package specific to companies in the printing 
> industry, and 
> > > > wants a simple contact management system which will link to
> > > the client
> > > > data in this package. I suspect (but am not sure) that 
> the package 
> > > > uses a SQL Server database. If I'm correct (and I've
> > > already asked how
> > > > best to see if it's SQL Server d/b, thanks for help on
> > > that) and it is
> > > > SQL Server then I'd like to see if I can link to it
> > > successfully. So,
> > > > if I start from the worst case scenario that they won't 
> have any 
> > > > software capable of linking to SQL Server does anyone have
> > > or know of
> > > > any free utility which will fit on a CD that I could use
> > > just to look
> > > > at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL vintage?
> > > > 
> > > > -- Andy Lacey
> > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > -Francisco
> > > <a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news with
> > > out the jargon</a> _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 



From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  7 12:43:03 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:43:03 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Open a text file from SQL Server
Message-ID: <BAY1-F29YTjr8cU6xfP00000d1d@hotmail.com>

ok.. I added dumped the results of xp_cmdshell into a variable called 
@the_value..

/* cut here */

declare @file_location varchar(255)
declare @exec_stat varchar(255)
declare @the_value nvarchar(255)
declare @y INT
declare @x int

create table #tempResults(the_id int not null identity(1,1), the_value 
nvarchar(255))

SET @file_location = 'C:\myFile.txt'
SET @exec_stat = 'type ' + @file_location
insert into #tempResults EXEC master.dbo.xp_cmdshell @exec_stat

select @y = count(*) from #tempResults
set @x = 0
while @x <> @y
   begin
      set @x = @x + 1
      select @the_value = the_value from #tempResults where the_id = @x
      select @x as row_num, @the_value as the_value
   end

/* cut here */

>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Open a text file from SQL Server
>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:32:47 -0400
>
>Billy Pang wrote:
>
>>there is:
>>
>>declare @file_location varchar(255)
>>declare @exec_stat varchar(255)
>>SET @file_location = 'C:\myFile.txt'
>>SET @exec_stat = 'type ' + @file_location
>>EXEC master.dbo.xp_cmdshell @exec_stat
>>
>>note: it's not perfect because text in the variable is "word wrapped".
>>
>>Billy
>>
>Does this give me the contents of the file in a variable? That's what I 
>really need. Maybe it does, but I don't see how, or which variable will 
>contain the returned text.
>
>Arthur
>
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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Thu Oct  7 12:57:40 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 11:57:40 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFAF@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Are you using Windows 2000 or after?  I'll send you a file off-line of what the .udl should look like.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy
Lacey
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:42 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?


Well I said I was a novice. What should the contents of this .udl look like?
I tried putting what I think is a valid connection string, but if I
double-click on it to open it I get the message "File cannot be opened.
Ensure it is a valid data link file".

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mackin, Christopher
> Sent: 07 October 2004 18:17
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> It's just a file that stores a connection string.  All you do 
> is create a text file, then change the file extension from 
> .txt to .udl. Open it up and you'll see how you do it, it's 
> self-explanatory.
> 
> In ADO you can use the .udl file as the connction string as 
> an easy way to get the connection out in the filesystem so 
> you can change it externally.  If you open the .udl in 
> Notepad it will give you a Connection String you can use, but 
> for what you want to do just open and test the connection and 
> it will give you what you want.
> 
> -Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf 
> Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:04 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> I'm sorry Chris but I'm a SQL Server novice and I don't 
> understand what you're suggesting. I don't know what a UDL 
> is. And what would I test the connection with, and how?
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Mackin, Christopher
> > Sent: 07 October 2004 14:29
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > Andy,
> > 
> > The .udl will allow you to test the connection and will let
> > you know if the username and password you provide (or Windows 
> > Authentication) are valid ways of connecting.
> > 
> > -Chris Mackin
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf
> > Of Andy Lacey
> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:39 AM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks Francisco
> > That'll help ascertain if it's Sql Server, but presumably the
> > database can be secured and prevent me linking to it. So I 
> > was looking for a "browsing tool" to check whether that is 
> > the case or if I can freely get at the data.
> > 
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Francisco Tapia
> > > Sent: 06 October 2004 22:36
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql 
> Server on it, 
> > > look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where the 
> executable 
> > > file name is sqlservr.exe
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher 
> > > <cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> > > > One simple way is to just create a text file and then 
> rename it to 
> > > > .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it
> > using the
> > > > avaialble Providers.
> > > > 
> > > > -Chris Mackin
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Andy
> > > > Lacey
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> > > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > > 
> > > > Hi folks
> > > > 
> > > > Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He
> > > has a 3rd
> > > > party package specific to companies in the printing 
> industry, and 
> > > > wants a simple contact management system which will link to
> > > the client
> > > > data in this package. I suspect (but am not sure) that 
> the package 
> > > > uses a SQL Server database. If I'm correct (and I've
> > > already asked how
> > > > best to see if it's SQL Server d/b, thanks for help on
> > > that) and it is
> > > > SQL Server then I'd like to see if I can link to it
> > > successfully. So,
> > > > if I start from the worst case scenario that they won't 
> have any 
> > > > software capable of linking to SQL Server does anyone have
> > > or know of
> > > > any free utility which will fit on a CD that I could use
> > > just to look
> > > > at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL vintage?
> > > > 
> > > > -- Andy Lacey
> > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > -Francisco
> > > <a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news with
> > > out the jargon</a> _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 13:11:49 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 19:11:49 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFAF@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <000301c4ac99$1dbfcf60$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

XP. Thanks Chris.

Andy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mackin, Christopher
> Sent: 07 October 2004 18:58
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Are you using Windows 2000 or after?  I'll send you a file 
> off-line of what the .udl should look like.
> 
> -Chris Mackin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf 
> Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Well I said I was a novice. What should the contents of this 
> .udl look like? I tried putting what I think is a valid 
> connection string, but if I double-click on it to open it I 
> get the message "File cannot be opened. Ensure it is a valid 
> data link file".
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Mackin, Christopher
> > Sent: 07 October 2004 18:17
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > It's just a file that stores a connection string.  All you do
> > is create a text file, then change the file extension from 
> > .txt to .udl. Open it up and you'll see how you do it, it's 
> > self-explanatory.
> > 
> > In ADO you can use the .udl file as the connction string as
> > an easy way to get the connection out in the filesystem so 
> > you can change it externally.  If you open the .udl in 
> > Notepad it will give you a Connection String you can use, but 
> > for what you want to do just open and test the connection and 
> > it will give you what you want.
> > 
> > -Chris
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf
> > Of Andy Lacey
> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:04 AM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sorry Chris but I'm a SQL Server novice and I don't
> > understand what you're suggesting. I don't know what a UDL 
> > is. And what would I test the connection with, and how?
> > 
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Mackin, Christopher
> > > Sent: 07 October 2004 14:29
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Andy,
> > > 
> > > The .udl will allow you to test the connection and will 
> let you know 
> > > if the username and password you provide (or Windows
> > > Authentication) are valid ways of connecting.
> > > 
> > > -Chris Mackin
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On 
> Behalf Of Andy 
> > > Lacey
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:39 AM
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Francisco
> > > That'll help ascertain if it's Sql Server, but presumably the 
> > > database can be secured and prevent me linking to it. So I was 
> > > looking for a "browsing tool" to check whether that is 
> the case or 
> > > if I can freely get at the data.
> > > 
> > > -- Andy Lacey
> > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> Behalf Of 
> > > > Francisco Tapia
> > > > Sent: 06 October 2004 22:36
> > > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql
> > Server on it,
> > > > look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where the
> > executable
> > > > file name is sqlservr.exe
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher
> > > > <cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> > > > > One simple way is to just create a text file and then
> > rename it to
> > > > > .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it
> > > using the
> > > > > avaialble Providers.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Chris Mackin
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Andy
> > > > > Lacey
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> > > > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi folks
> > > > > 
> > > > > Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He
> > > > has a 3rd
> > > > > party package specific to companies in the printing
> > industry, and
> > > > > wants a simple contact management system which will link to
> > > > the client
> > > > > data in this package. I suspect (but am not sure) that
> > the package
> > > > > uses a SQL Server database. If I'm correct (and I've
> > > > already asked how
> > > > > best to see if it's SQL Server d/b, thanks for help on
> > > > that) and it is
> > > > > SQL Server then I'd like to see if I can link to it
> > > > successfully. So,
> > > > > if I start from the worst case scenario that they won't
> > have any
> > > > > software capable of linking to SQL Server does anyone have
> > > > or know of
> > > > > any free utility which will fit on a CD that I could use
> > > > just to look
> > > > > at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL vintage?
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- Andy Lacey
> > > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > > > 
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > -Francisco
> > > > <a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news 
> with out the 
> > > > jargon</a> _______________________________________________
> > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 13:25:21 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 19:25:21 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFAF@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <000001c4ac9b$01534800$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Received and tried. Works like a charm. That's really useful Chris. Thanks
so much.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mackin, Christopher
> Sent: 07 October 2004 18:58
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Are you using Windows 2000 or after?  I'll send you a file 
> off-line of what the .udl should look like.
> 
> -Chris Mackin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf 
> Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Well I said I was a novice. What should the contents of this 
> .udl look like? I tried putting what I think is a valid 
> connection string, but if I double-click on it to open it I 
> get the message "File cannot be opened. Ensure it is a valid 
> data link file".
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Mackin, Christopher
> > Sent: 07 October 2004 18:17
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > It's just a file that stores a connection string.  All you do
> > is create a text file, then change the file extension from 
> > .txt to .udl. Open it up and you'll see how you do it, it's 
> > self-explanatory.
> > 
> > In ADO you can use the .udl file as the connction string as
> > an easy way to get the connection out in the filesystem so 
> > you can change it externally.  If you open the .udl in 
> > Notepad it will give you a Connection String you can use, but 
> > for what you want to do just open and test the connection and 
> > it will give you what you want.
> > 
> > -Chris
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf
> > Of Andy Lacey
> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:04 AM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sorry Chris but I'm a SQL Server novice and I don't
> > understand what you're suggesting. I don't know what a UDL 
> > is. And what would I test the connection with, and how?
> > 
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Mackin, Christopher
> > > Sent: 07 October 2004 14:29
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Andy,
> > > 
> > > The .udl will allow you to test the connection and will 
> let you know 
> > > if the username and password you provide (or Windows
> > > Authentication) are valid ways of connecting.
> > > 
> > > -Chris Mackin
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On 
> Behalf Of Andy 
> > > Lacey
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:39 AM
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Francisco
> > > That'll help ascertain if it's Sql Server, but presumably the 
> > > database can be secured and prevent me linking to it. So I was 
> > > looking for a "browsing tool" to check whether that is 
> the case or 
> > > if I can freely get at the data.
> > > 
> > > -- Andy Lacey
> > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> Behalf Of 
> > > > Francisco Tapia
> > > > Sent: 06 October 2004 22:36
> > > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql
> > Server on it,
> > > > look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where the
> > executable
> > > > file name is sqlservr.exe
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher
> > > > <cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> > > > > One simple way is to just create a text file and then
> > rename it to
> > > > > .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it
> > > using the
> > > > > avaialble Providers.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Chris Mackin
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Andy
> > > > > Lacey
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> > > > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi folks
> > > > > 
> > > > > Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He
> > > > has a 3rd
> > > > > party package specific to companies in the printing
> > industry, and
> > > > > wants a simple contact management system which will link to
> > > > the client
> > > > > data in this package. I suspect (but am not sure) that
> > the package
> > > > > uses a SQL Server database. If I'm correct (and I've
> > > > already asked how
> > > > > best to see if it's SQL Server d/b, thanks for help on
> > > > that) and it is
> > > > > SQL Server then I'd like to see if I can link to it
> > > > successfully. So,
> > > > > if I start from the worst case scenario that they won't
> > have any
> > > > > software capable of linking to SQL Server does anyone have
> > > > or know of
> > > > > any free utility which will fit on a CD that I could use
> > > > just to look
> > > > > at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL vintage?
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- Andy Lacey
> > > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > > > 
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > -Francisco
> > > > <a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news 
> with out the 
> > > > jargon</a> _______________________________________________
> > > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Oct  7 13:32:38 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:32:38 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Good deal
Message-ID: <000201c4ac9c$095a3940$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Thu Oct  7 13:32:43 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:32:43 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFB3@snowmass.quiznos.net>

You're wlecome, glad I could help.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy
Lacey
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:25 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?


Received and tried. Works like a charm. That's really useful Chris. Thanks
so much.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mackin, Christopher
> Sent: 07 October 2004 18:58
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Are you using Windows 2000 or after?  I'll send you a file 
> off-line of what the .udl should look like.
> 
> -Chris Mackin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf 
> Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> 
> 
> Well I said I was a novice. What should the contents of this 
> .udl look like? I tried putting what I think is a valid 
> connection string, but if I double-click on it to open it I 
> get the message "File cannot be opened. Ensure it is a valid 
> data link file".
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Mackin, Christopher
> > Sent: 07 October 2004 18:17
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > It's just a file that stores a connection string.  All you do
> > is create a text file, then change the file extension from 
> > .txt to .udl. Open it up and you'll see how you do it, it's 
> > self-explanatory.
> > 
> > In ADO you can use the .udl file as the connction string as
> > an easy way to get the connection out in the filesystem so 
> > you can change it externally.  If you open the .udl in 
> > Notepad it will give you a Connection String you can use, but 
> > for what you want to do just open and test the connection and 
> > it will give you what you want.
> > 
> > -Chris
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf
> > Of Andy Lacey
> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:04 AM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sorry Chris but I'm a SQL Server novice and I don't
> > understand what you're suggesting. I don't know what a UDL 
> > is. And what would I test the connection with, and how?
> > 
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Mackin, Christopher
> > > Sent: 07 October 2004 14:29
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Andy,
> > > 
> > > The .udl will allow you to test the connection and will 
> let you know 
> > > if the username and password you provide (or Windows
> > > Authentication) are valid ways of connecting.
> > > 
> > > -Chris Mackin
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On 
> Behalf Of Andy 
> > > Lacey
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:39 AM
> > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Francisco
> > > That'll help ascertain if it's Sql Server, but presumably the 
> > > database can be secured and prevent me linking to it. So I was 
> > > looking for a "browsing tool" to check whether that is 
> the case or 
> > > if I can freely get at the data.
> > > 
> > > -- Andy Lacey
> > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> Behalf Of 
> > > > Francisco Tapia
> > > > Sent: 06 October 2004 22:36
> > > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Additionally the Machine that is said to have the Sql
> > Server on it,
> > > > look for a service running named: MSSQLSERVER, where the
> > executable
> > > > file name is sqlservr.exe
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:08:24 -0600, Mackin, Christopher
> > > > <cmackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
> > > > > One simple way is to just create a text file and then
> > rename it to
> > > > > .udl.  Once you open it you can set up a connection to it
> > > using the
> > > > > avaialble Providers.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Chris Mackin
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Andy
> > > > > Lacey
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:53 PM
> > > > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Browsing tool?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi folks
> > > > > 
> > > > > Next week I'm going to see a potential client (hurrah!). He
> > > > has a 3rd
> > > > > party package specific to companies in the printing
> > industry, and
> > > > > wants a simple contact management system which will link to
> > > > the client
> > > > > data in this package. I suspect (but am not sure) that
> > the package
> > > > > uses a SQL Server database. If I'm correct (and I've
> > > > already asked how
> > > > > best to see if it's SQL Server d/b, thanks for help on
> > > > that) and it is
> > > > > SQL Server then I'd like to see if I can link to it
> > > > successfully. So,
> > > > > if I start from the worst case scenario that they won't
> > have any
> > > > > software capable of linking to SQL Server does anyone have
> > > > or know of
> > > > > any free utility which will fit on a CD that I could use
> > > > just to look
> > > > > at a database, whatever the OS and whatever the SQL vintage?
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- Andy Lacey
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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Thu Oct  7 23:57:54 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:57:54 +1300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F290888E4@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

I've got one sitting here - looks like it's from Terry Kreft / Dev Ashish, about 500KB

Stephen Bond
Otatara, New Zealand

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
> Sent: Friday, 8 October 2004 12:50 a.m.
> To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> 
> 
> Someone on Accessd, years ago, developed a small Access 
> database that wrote
> sql code.  It was a great little tool, and I thought it would 
> be useful for
> folks who didn't use the qbe in Access.  I have since lost it due to
> changing machines several times.  Does anyone else remember 
> this tool?  It
> might be helpful, I don't know.  I haven't even looked at it 
> for years.
> 
> Susan Klos
> Senior Database Analyst
> Evaluation and Reporting
> Florida Department of Education
> 850-245-0708 
> sc 205-0708
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:22 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> 
> Could they be referring to the Create View Wizard??
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:01 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> 
> 
> Francisco Tapia wrote:
> 
> >you paying the air-fare? WOW :D... I'd like to try out Jet 
> Blue, thanks
> 
> >:D
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:18:43 -0400, John W. Colby 
> ><jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>OK well, will you come to my house for a couple of days.  ;-)
> >>
> >>John W. Colby
> >>www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> >>Porter, Mark
> >>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:59 PM
> >>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> >>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> >>
> >>I even write straight SQL in Access about half the time now, since 
> >>moving to SQL Server a few years ago.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On 
> Behalf Of David
> 
> >>>Lewis
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:00 AM
> >>>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE tool in query analyzer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Getting used to writing sql code is part of the learning 
> curve when 
> >>>moving from access to sql server.  It takes a bit of work, 
> but it is 
> >>>well worth it.  After a time, trying to build a query in an 
> >>>access-like GUI is so aggravating that you will want to 
> stick to QA.
> 
> >>>For one thing, it allows you far more flexibility 
> (subselects, case 
> >>>statements, derived tables, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).  
> Again, it is 
> >>>well worth the effort.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Message: 1
> >>>>Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:56 -0400
> >>>>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> >>>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] QBE in Query analyzer
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> >>>>Message-ID: <001701c4aadf$face27a0$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> >>>>Is there a QBE tool in query analyzer?  I am having to go 
> create a 
> >>>>view to use the qbe grid there, then cut and paste the 
> sql into the
> >>>>query analyzer.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Oct  8 01:58:56 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 08:58:56 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] X-posted: Security issue,
	opening SQL server port over internet
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF0ADC9B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

 
Hi Group
A new POS software supplier for a customer from me, asks to open up the
SQL server port over the ADSL/Internet.
He needs this to synchronise database between two sites.
 
I however, have always understood that opening the SQL server port over
the internet is a serious security issue and should be avoided. Due to
the numerous security bugs I seen passing the catwalk I find this my
personal opinion to.
Next to that, the own SQL security system needs to be tuned/activated
because by default everything is wide open.
 
I am wondering what the opinion /experiance of the Access group is in
this matter.
I'm also wondering if the SQL server (I believe version 7) data is
encypted when sending over the internet?
 
I personaly would use a VPN connection and connect to to SQL server over
that VPN. I know this has some speed drawbacks but its safe...
 
 

 

Erwin Craps

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Fri Oct  8 07:50:12 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:50:12 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Re: Good deal
In-Reply-To: <200410071839.i97IdJL19231@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041008072651.013aa318@pop3.highstream.net>

John,

While not as inexpensive as yours, I bought an Acer 1710
back in July.  $1850 at Micro Center.

3 ghz Intel P4
1 gig RAM (desktop DDR)
120 gig HDD (3.5")
wireless and regular
DVD +-RW
6-in-one card reader
Firewire and USB 2.0
17" screen

An excellent machine if you can live with the 15.7 lbs.

Robert

At 01:39 PM 10/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:32:38 -0400
>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Good deal
>To: VBA <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>,  "Tech - Database Advisors Inc."
>         <Dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>,        SQLServer
>         <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>,   AccessD
>         <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <000201c4ac9c$095a3940$e8dafea9 at ColbyM6805>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>The laptop I bought for 1500 minus $250 rebate is now available for $1300
>minus an additional $150 mail in rebate.  This is a NICE machine folks.
>
>Emachines Athlon64 3000+ ghz, 512m ram, 60m hard drive, built-in 54mbit
>wireless, etc.
>
>http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=product&id=1069301995506&skuId=
>6249703
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Oct  8 09:08:39 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:08:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
Message-ID: <001701c4ad40$543491a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with first
/ middle / last name into separate fields?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From artful at rogers.com  Fri Oct  8 09:45:39 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:45:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
In-Reply-To: <001701c4ad40$543491a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <001701c4ad40$543491a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <4166A813.7080706@rogers.com>

John W. Colby wrote:

>Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with first
>/ middle / last name into separate fields?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>
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>
>  
>
This wouldn't take long to write, but first let's get the requirements 
straight....

Assume the delimiter is a space?
Assume that if there is only one space, then there is no middle name?
Assume that if there are more than two spaces, the person has two middle 
names?

Yay or nay?

A.


From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Oct  8 10:00:38 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:00:38 -0500 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C024855D4@natexch.jenkens.com>

The biggest crimp I can see is people with spaces in their last name.  I
have seen the last name de la Rosa.  That is only one example.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


John W. Colby wrote:

>Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with
first
>/ middle / last name into separate fields?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>
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>
>
>  
>
This wouldn't take long to write, but first let's get the requirements 
straight....

Assume the delimiter is a space?
Assume that if there is only one space, then there is no middle name?
Assume that if there are more than two spaces, the person has two middle 
names?

Yay or nay?

A.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Oct  8 10:06:35 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:06:35 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
In-Reply-To: <4166A813.7080706@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c4ad48$67a602c0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

LOL.  Assume nothing.

As a starting point, assume the name is in the format "Title (if they want
to display it) FirstName SPACE MiddleInitial(if Any) SPACE LastName"  This
is data entered directly by the person owning the name so it can have titles
if they love showing off their doctorate or judgeship.

It seems that all you can assume is that the last name is the last word.
Even that breaks down for the Micks and Macs and the likes.

I know this is not a trivial thing to do as I was involved in ProperCase
wizard on my site.

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:46 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


John W. Colby wrote:

>Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with 
>first / middle / last name into separate fields?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-SQLServer mailing list
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>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>  
>
This wouldn't take long to write, but first let's get the requirements 
straight....

Assume the delimiter is a space?
Assume that if there is only one space, then there is no middle name? Assume
that if there are more than two spaces, the person has two middle 
names?

Yay or nay?

A.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Oct  8 10:15:09 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:15:09 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C024855D4@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c4ad49$99a4d1b0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Yep, not as trivial as it first appears.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam,
Debbie
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:01 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


The biggest crimp I can see is people with spaces in their last name.  I
have seen the last name de la Rosa.  That is only one example.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


John W. Colby wrote:

>Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with
first
>/ middle / last name into separate fields?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>  
>
This wouldn't take long to write, but first let's get the requirements 
straight....

Assume the delimiter is a space?
Assume that if there is only one space, then there is no middle name? Assume
that if there are more than two spaces, the person has two middle 
names?

Yay or nay?

A.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Oct  8 10:19:24 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:19:24 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C024855D4@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <002001c4ad4a$3177daa0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Come to think of it though, for my purposes it might not be as difficult as
it appears.  This is for the nVLDB mailing list and I do not need to sort on
or lookup names.  I need the last name just for the purpose of building up a
check field where you use the first N characters of the last name, the zip
etc.  Thus it doesn't matter to me whether I have the entire last name or
just the last word of the last name.

It's always a good thing to talk about a problem because doing so triggers
the brain to analyze the problem.

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam,
Debbie
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:01 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


The biggest crimp I can see is people with spaces in their last name.  I
have seen the last name de la Rosa.  That is only one example.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


John W. Colby wrote:

>Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with
first
>/ middle / last name into separate fields?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
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>
>
>  
>
This wouldn't take long to write, but first let's get the requirements 
straight....

Assume the delimiter is a space?
Assume that if there is only one space, then there is no middle name? Assume
that if there are more than two spaces, the person has two middle 
names?

Yay or nay?

A.
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Oct  8 10:33:32 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:33:32 -0500 
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C024855D5@natexch.jenkens.com>

What about suffixes?  Jr.  III  Esq.  PhD
This is really getting ugly.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:07 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


LOL.  Assume nothing.

As a starting point, assume the name is in the format "Title (if they want
to display it) FirstName SPACE MiddleInitial(if Any) SPACE LastName"  This
is data entered directly by the person owning the name so it can have titles
if they love showing off their doctorate or judgeship.

It seems that all you can assume is that the last name is the last word.
Even that breaks down for the Micks and Macs and the likes.

I know this is not a trivial thing to do as I was involved in ProperCase
wizard on my site.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:46 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


John W. Colby wrote:

>Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with 
>first / middle / last name into separate fields?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>  
>
This wouldn't take long to write, but first let's get the requirements 
straight....

Assume the delimiter is a space?
Assume that if there is only one space, then there is no middle name? Assume
that if there are more than two spaces, the person has two middle 
names?

Yay or nay?

A.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Oct  8 10:41:32 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:41:32 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
In-Reply-To: <002001c4ad4a$3177daa0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <002101c4ad4d$49211b50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

So.... Now I need to know how to find and return the last word in a field.
I have never written a stored procedure but if you can give me a starting
point I think maybe I can pick it up from there.  I assume that I can then
create an update query where a last name field is set to the value returned
from a SP where the SP is passed in the data from the name field.  The SP
then does all the processing required to find that last name.

As always, this needs to be as fast as possible since this will be running
against 64 million names.  I will just be putting 3 or 4 machines to work
running this functionality against different sets of records to speed up the
whole process.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:19 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


Come to think of it though, for my purposes it might not be as difficult as
it appears.  This is for the nVLDB mailing list and I do not need to sort on
or lookup names.  I need the last name just for the purpose of building up a
check field where you use the first N characters of the last name, the zip
etc.  Thus it doesn't matter to me whether I have the entire last name or
just the last word of the last name.

It's always a good thing to talk about a problem because doing so triggers
the brain to analyze the problem.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam,
Debbie
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:01 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


The biggest crimp I can see is people with spaces in their last name.  I
have seen the last name de la Rosa.  That is only one example.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field


John W. Colby wrote:

>Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with
first
>/ middle / last name into separate fields?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>  
>
This wouldn't take long to write, but first let's get the requirements 
straight....

Assume the delimiter is a space?
Assume that if there is only one space, then there is no middle name? Assume
that if there are more than two spaces, the person has two middle 
names?

Yay or nay?

A.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Oct  8 10:50:55 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:50:55 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Warning, the table
Message-ID: <002201c4ad4e$9d316190$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

When I try to add a field to the table it gives me a "Warning, the table was
created with Ansi Nulls OFF.  The table will be recreated with Ansi Nulls
ON".  I know from experience that this causes the db to go off for days at a
time rebuilding the table.  

What the <expletive deleted> are ansi nulls and why was the table created
with it off?
Why do I need them now?
Is there any way to prevent this and yet still be able to add a field?  
Is there any way to allow setting ansi nulls on but not "rebuilding the
table"?

I already added a field (an int identity) and it told me it was rebuilding
the table for that field.  Why is it having to rebuild the table again.
This is getting rather silly especially since it takes literally days to
rebuild the table.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Oct  8 10:53:16 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:53:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Where does it go?
Message-ID: <002301c4ad4e$ecec4ce0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

If I do the following:

EXECUTE sp_addlogin @loginame =  'DataEntry', @passwd = 'ASDFG'

Where is this login name stored?  
How can it be tested?  
I set up my system to use Windows Login.  Can I perform a "SQL SERVER LOGIN"
somehow to test that this login "took"?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct  8 11:10:47 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (jmoss111 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:10:47 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
Message-ID: <20041008161048.DLEB1757.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>

You might want to look at the toolset from People Smith that I mentioned to you last month, especially the Personator utility. It makes short works of name and address splitting. You should be able to pick up Personator for 400 for the standard version or 700 for the pro version. 

Jim
> 
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Date: 2004/10/08 Fri AM 11:19:24 EDT
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
> 
> Come to think of it though, for my purposes it might not be as difficult as
> it appears.  This is for the nVLDB mailing list and I do not need to sort on
> or lookup names.  I need the last name just for the purpose of building up a
> check field where you use the first N characters of the last name, the zip
> etc.  Thus it doesn't matter to me whether I have the entire last name or
> just the last word of the last name.
> 
> It's always a good thing to talk about a problem because doing so triggers
> the brain to analyze the problem.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam,
> Debbie
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:01 AM
> To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
> 
> 
> The biggest crimp I can see is people with spaces in their last name.  I
> have seen the last name de la Rosa.  That is only one example.
> 
> Debbie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:46 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
> 
> 
> John W. Colby wrote:
> 
> >Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with
> first
> >/ middle / last name into separate fields?
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >dba-SQLServer mailing list
> >dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> >http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> This wouldn't take long to write, but first let's get the requirements 
> straight....
> 
> Assume the delimiter is a space?
> Assume that if there is only one space, then there is no middle name? Assume
> that if there are more than two spaces, the person has two middle 
> names?
> 
> Yay or nay?
> 
> A.
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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Fri Oct  8 11:18:41 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:18:41 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Where does it go?
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFC1@snowmass.quiznos.net>

It adds the login to the Server in EM look under Security->Logins.

Then you can use sp_adduser to assign that login as a user in specific database.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:53 AM
To: SQLServer
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Where does it go?


If I do the following:

EXECUTE sp_addlogin @loginame =  'DataEntry', @passwd = 'ASDFG'

Where is this login name stored?  
How can it be tested?  
I set up my system to use Windows Login.  Can I perform a "SQL SERVER LOGIN"
somehow to test that this login "took"?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Oct  8 11:31:36 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:31:36 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
In-Reply-To: <002101c4ad4d$49211b50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <002101c4ad4d$49211b50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <4166C0E8.60104@rogers.com>

John W. Colby wrote:

>So.... Now I need to know how to find and return the last word in a field.
>I have never written a stored procedure but if you can give me a starting
>point I think maybe I can pick it up from there.  I assume that I can then
>create an update query where a last name field is set to the value returned
>from a SP where the SP is passed in the data from the name field.  The SP
>then does all the processing required to find that last name.
>
>As always, this needs to be as fast as possible since this will be running
>against 64 million names.  I will just be putting 3 or 4 machines to work
>running this functionality against different sets of records to speed up the
>whole process.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
>Colby
>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:19 AM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
>
>
>Come to think of it though, for my purposes it might not be as difficult as
>it appears.  This is for the nVLDB mailing list and I do not need to sort on
>or lookup names.  I need the last name just for the purpose of building up a
>check field where you use the first N characters of the last name, the zip
>etc.  Thus it doesn't matter to me whether I have the entire last name or
>just the last word of the last name.
>
>It's always a good thing to talk about a problem because doing so triggers
>the brain to analyze the problem.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam,
>Debbie
>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:01 AM
>To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
>
>
>The biggest crimp I can see is people with spaces in their last name.  I
>have seen the last name de la Rosa.  That is only one example.
>
>Debbie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:46 AM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parse name field
>
>
>John W. Colby wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Does anyone have a SP (or whatever) that can parse a single field with
>>    
>>
>first
>  
>
>>/ middle / last name into separate fields?
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>This wouldn't take long to write, but first let's get the requirements 
>straight....
>
>Assume the delimiter is a space?
>Assume that if there is only one space, then there is no middle name? Assume
>that if there are more than two spaces, the person has two middle 
>names?
>
>Yay or nay?
>
>A.
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>dba-SQLServer mailing list
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>
>
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>
>
>
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>
>  
>
As was pointed out earlier, you need to anticipate such things as a 
Surname like "de la Vega", as well as two middle names. You might devise 
a rule that says the first space delimits the first name, but then what?

1. Antonio Carlos Jobim -- straightforward
2. Maria Theresa de la Vega -- first space delimits first name, then 
what? Lower case rule?
3. John Dos Passos -- violates rule 2, which implies that the second 
capitalized word would be the middle name

All this aside, you now confront the sorting rules. Many (most?) schemes 
suggest that Dos Passos be listed under P not D. This rule at least 
gives a good starting point: assume that the last word is the most 
significant part of the surname. Then, assuming that you could somehow 
recognize that Dos is part of the surname, you could record the surname 
as Passos, Dos. And Maria's surname as Vega, de la.

What we can assume with relative certainty is that the first space 
delimits the given name. After that it's guesswork. If this is truly 
important, then I might suggest a rather lengthy process.

SELECT CharIndex( ' ', ClientName, 1) -- gives you the position of the 
first space

SELECT SubString( ClientName, 1, CharIndex( ' ', ClientName, 1) ) -- 
gives you the first name

SELECT SubString( ClientName, CharIndex( ' ', ClientName, 1), Len( 
ClientName ) ) -- gives you the remainder
i.e. select substring('Arthur Fuller',7, Len('Arthur Fuller')) -- 
returns 'Fuller'

Create a new table or add columns to the Clients table for GivenName, 
MiddleName, Surname and Remainder. Update these columns using the 
expressions above.

SELECT DISTINCT  Remainder FROM Table ORDER BY Remainder

Inspect these and create a Surnames table, having Surname and Remainder 
columns. Upon encountering 'John Dos Passos', you know the first name is 
'John', and the surname is 'Passos'. The trick is to figure out what to 
do with 'Dos'. (Upgrade to Windows? :)

Time for the international community to step in. Zorro, for example, was 
actually Don Diego de la Vega. I assume from so many mafia movies that 
'Don' is equivalent to 'Mr.' or perhaps 'Maestro' or perhaps 'Your 
Highness', but in any case it is not part of the given name. Now we come 
to 'Don Quixote' -- bummer!

Good luck, baby!

There! Now I feel almost as useful as the authors of MS-Help!





From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Oct  8 11:54:16 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:54:16 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Warning, the table
In-Reply-To: <002201c4ad4e$9d316190$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <002201c4ad4e$9d316190$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a041008095447b29231@mail.gmail.com>

IF you add a column via EM, it may rebuild the table since it actually
re-creates the table and copies the data, and drops the old one...
(depending on where you add the column).

if you do this via QA the syntax looks like this


ALTER TABLE myVLDB ADD myClumnName INT



On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:50:55 -0400, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> When I try to add a field to the table it gives me a "Warning, the table was
> created with Ansi Nulls OFF.  The table will be recreated with Ansi Nulls
> ON".  I know from experience that this causes the db to go off for days at a
> time rebuilding the table.
> 
> What the <expletive deleted> are ansi nulls and why was the table created
> with it off?
> Why do I need them now?
> Is there any way to prevent this and yet still be able to add a field?
> Is there any way to allow setting ansi nulls on but not "rebuilding the
> table"?
> 
> I already added a field (an int identity) and it told me it was rebuilding
> the table for that field.  Why is it having to rebuild the table again.
> This is getting rather silly especially since it takes literally days to
> rebuild the table.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Oct 10 01:35:41 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 02:35:41 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
Message-ID: <000801c4ae93$60eae990$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

OK, I really need to get my SQL Server on one machine registered on my other
machines so I can get some work done.

I have 5 computers I need to use.  

I have the nVLDB database running on Neo2
I have SQL Server (client and server) running on Neo1, Soltek1, ColbyM6805
and soon on MaryDesktop.

I need to get as many computers as possible running against Neo2 doing
updates to the data in nVLDB.  The deal is that a single field in nVLDB has
a mishmash of data for the names of people, i.e. titles, first name, middle
name, last name, in any combination.  For my purposes all I really need is
the last complete word (name) from this mishmash.  I am not swift enough
with SQL Server and its built-in functions to find the position of the LAST
space (if any) but I do have code to find the FIRST space.  Thus my
objective is to pull out everything after the first space from the
EntireName field and save it in a LastName field, then on the second and
subsequent passes pull everything after the first space from the LastName
field and drop it back into the last name field.  Crude, but I have plenty
of horsepower if I can get all my computers banging away at this.

BTW, I ran (and timed) the "everything after the first space" query on Neo2
itself for a subset of 100,000 records and came up with about 10 hours to
perform the update query for 64 million records, directly by a single
machine.  Which means I could just do this if I have to by setting it to run
overnight.

I make a giant assumption that SQL Server can handle 4 different computers
all trying to update data in the same field but against a different set of
records?

Once that is finished, I will do essentially the same thing except against
the last name field itself, in order to get rid of middle names.  Thus this
will be an iterative process until eventually I am left with the last name
itself, in the last name field.

My problem here is that I can't get any other computer to register Neo2 SQL
server.  I always get a "login failed as guest".  Any help in getting around
this would be much appreciated.  Explicit step by step instructions would
help the most as I am by no stretch of the imagination fluent in SQL
Server-ese.

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/




From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Sun Oct 10 18:55:41 2004
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:25:41 +0930
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E57F@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

Use SQL Server authentication and specify a username and password when
connecting. 

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 10 October 2004 4:06 PM
To: SQLServer
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database

OK, I really need to get my SQL Server on one machine registered on my other
machines so I can get some work done.

I have 5 computers I need to use.  

I have the nVLDB database running on Neo2 I have SQL Server (client and
server) running on Neo1, Soltek1, ColbyM6805 and soon on MaryDesktop.

I need to get as many computers as possible running against Neo2 doing
updates to the data in nVLDB.  The deal is that a single field in nVLDB has
a mishmash of data for the names of people, i.e. titles, first name, middle
name, last name, in any combination.  For my purposes all I really need is
the last complete word (name) from this mishmash.  I am not swift enough
with SQL Server and its built-in functions to find the position of the LAST
space (if any) but I do have code to find the FIRST space.  Thus my
objective is to pull out everything after the first space from the
EntireName field and save it in a LastName field, then on the second and
subsequent passes pull everything after the first space from the LastName
field and drop it back into the last name field.  Crude, but I have plenty
of horsepower if I can get all my computers banging away at this.

BTW, I ran (and timed) the "everything after the first space" query on Neo2
itself for a subset of 100,000 records and came up with about 10 hours to
perform the update query for 64 million records, directly by a single
machine.  Which means I could just do this if I have to by setting it to run
overnight.

I make a giant assumption that SQL Server can handle 4 different computers
all trying to update data in the same field but against a different set of
records?

Once that is finished, I will do essentially the same thing except against
the last name field itself, in order to get rid of middle names.  Thus this
will be an iterative process until eventually I am left with the last name
itself, in the last name field.

My problem here is that I can't get any other computer to register Neo2 SQL
server.  I always get a "login failed as guest".  Any help in getting around
this would be much appreciated.  Explicit step by step instructions would
help the most as I am by no stretch of the imagination fluent in SQL
Server-ese.

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Sun Oct 10 22:39:06 2004
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:09:06 +0930
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Warning, the table
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E584@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

As with most things, probably better explained in BOL.  It has to do with
the default comparison of NULL's.

Search BOL for ANSI_NULLS specifically the topic NULL COMPARISON SEARCH
CONDITIONS


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 9 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: SQLServer
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Warning, the table

When I try to add a field to the table it gives me a "Warning, the table was
created with Ansi Nulls OFF.  The table will be recreated with Ansi Nulls
ON".  I know from experience that this causes the db to go off for days at a
time rebuilding the table.  

What the <expletive deleted> are ansi nulls and why was the table created
with it off?
Why do I need them now?
Is there any way to prevent this and yet still be able to add a field?  
Is there any way to allow setting ansi nulls on but not "rebuilding the
table"?

I already added a field (an int identity) and it told me it was rebuilding
the table for that field.  Why is it having to rebuild the table again.
This is getting rather silly especially since it takes literally days to
rebuild the table.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Oct 11 06:45:21 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:45:21 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Warning, the table
In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E584@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
Message-ID: <001e01c4af87$c9c456f0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Well, I kinda knew the answer to that one question.  How bout the others?  I
already went through this when I added an autonumber index.  It rebuilt the
table then, why is it doing it again?  This table is huge and rebuilding it
is a 48 hour process.  Do I have to go through this every time I add a field
to the table?  This is a bit ignorant don't ya think?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett,
Andrew
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:39 PM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Warning, the table


As with most things, probably better explained in BOL.  It has to do with
the default comparison of NULL's.

Search BOL for ANSI_NULLS specifically the topic NULL COMPARISON SEARCH
CONDITIONS


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 9 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: SQLServer
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Warning, the table

When I try to add a field to the table it gives me a "Warning, the table was
created with Ansi Nulls OFF.  The table will be recreated with Ansi Nulls
ON".  I know from experience that this causes the db to go off for days at a
time rebuilding the table.  

What the <expletive deleted> are ansi nulls and why was the table created
with it off? Why do I need them now? Is there any way to prevent this and
yet still be able to add a field?  
Is there any way to allow setting ansi nulls on but not "rebuilding the
table"?

I already added a field (an int identity) and it told me it was rebuilding
the table for that field.  Why is it having to rebuild the table again. This
is getting rather silly especially since it takes literally days to rebuild
the table.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Mon Oct 11 12:09:56 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:09:56 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E57F@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
References: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E57F@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
Message-ID: <b874372a0410111009764fb4fe@mail.gmail.com>

Not only that, you are running XP SP2 IIRC from one of your ealier
posts... please check that your software firewall is allowing sql
server to get through it default listens on port 1433, so please make
sure that at least this port is open.

2ndly make sure that the Sql Server is set up to listen in mixed mode
so you can at your whim, choose between nt authentication and sql
Server sercuity... to do this go to Neo2, and right click the server
in EM, and choose the type of authentication allowed.

when registering from other pc's you can elect to use the IP instead
of the name, and thus make for less headaches..


On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:25:41 +0930, Haslett, Andrew
<andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au> wrote:
> Use SQL Server authentication and specify a username and password when
> connecting.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 10 October 2004 4:06 PM
> To: SQLServer
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
> 
> OK, I really need to get my SQL Server on one machine registered on my other
> machines so I can get some work done.
> 
> I have 5 computers I need to use.
> 
> I have the nVLDB database running on Neo2 I have SQL Server (client and
> server) running on Neo1, Soltek1, ColbyM6805 and soon on MaryDesktop.
> 
> I need to get as many computers as possible running against Neo2 doing
> updates to the data in nVLDB.  The deal is that a single field in nVLDB has
> a mishmash of data for the names of people, i.e. titles, first name, middle
> name, last name, in any combination.  For my purposes all I really need is
> the last complete word (name) from this mishmash.  I am not swift enough
> with SQL Server and its built-in functions to find the position of the LAST
> space (if any) but I do have code to find the FIRST space.  Thus my
> objective is to pull out everything after the first space from the
> EntireName field and save it in a LastName field, then on the second and
> subsequent passes pull everything after the first space from the LastName
> field and drop it back into the last name field.  Crude, but I have plenty
> of horsepower if I can get all my computers banging away at this.
> 
> BTW, I ran (and timed) the "everything after the first space" query on Neo2
> itself for a subset of 100,000 records and came up with about 10 hours to
> perform the update query for 64 million records, directly by a single
> machine.  Which means I could just do this if I have to by setting it to run
> overnight.
> 
> I make a giant assumption that SQL Server can handle 4 different computers
> all trying to update data in the same field but against a different set of
> records?
> 
> Once that is finished, I will do essentially the same thing except against
> the last name field itself, in order to get rid of middle names.  Thus this
> will be an iterative process until eventually I am left with the last name
> itself, in the last name field.
> 
> My problem here is that I can't get any other computer to register Neo2 SQL
> server.  I always get a "login failed as guest".  Any help in getting around
> this would be much appreciated.  Explicit step by step instructions would
> help the most as I am by no stretch of the imagination fluent in SQL
> Server-ese.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
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> contain information protected by law from disclosure.
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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Oct 11 13:01:30 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:01:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF91B@DISABILITYINS01>

Francisco,

Thanks for that.  I am not running the XP firewall (never will) but I am
running a firewall.  However I disabled all the firewalls for the purposes
of testing this stuff and that didn't help.  Having the port number is
important though for setting up my firewalls so I appreciate that.

The problem with using SQL Server authentication is that as soon as I get
into that I have to set up users (none exist at this point) and that brings
up what rights they need.  There are a TON of them and I don't really
understand that stuff.  One of the reasons I specifically asked for "step by
step".

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:10 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


Not only that, you are running XP SP2 IIRC from one of your ealier
posts... please check that your software firewall is allowing sql
server to get through it default listens on port 1433, so please make
sure that at least this port is open.

2ndly make sure that the Sql Server is set up to listen in mixed mode
so you can at your whim, choose between nt authentication and sql
Server sercuity... to do this go to Neo2, and right click the server
in EM, and choose the type of authentication allowed.

when registering from other pc's you can elect to use the IP instead
of the name, and thus make for less headaches..


On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:25:41 +0930, Haslett, Andrew
<andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au> wrote:
> Use SQL Server authentication and specify a username and password when
> connecting.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 10 October 2004 4:06 PM
> To: SQLServer
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
> 
> OK, I really need to get my SQL Server on one machine registered on my
other
> machines so I can get some work done.
> 
> I have 5 computers I need to use.
> 
> I have the nVLDB database running on Neo2 I have SQL Server (client and
> server) running on Neo1, Soltek1, ColbyM6805 and soon on MaryDesktop.
> 
> I need to get as many computers as possible running against Neo2 doing
> updates to the data in nVLDB.  The deal is that a single field in nVLDB
has
> a mishmash of data for the names of people, i.e. titles, first name,
middle
> name, last name, in any combination.  For my purposes all I really need is
> the last complete word (name) from this mishmash.  I am not swift enough
> with SQL Server and its built-in functions to find the position of the
LAST
> space (if any) but I do have code to find the FIRST space.  Thus my
> objective is to pull out everything after the first space from the
> EntireName field and save it in a LastName field, then on the second and
> subsequent passes pull everything after the first space from the LastName
> field and drop it back into the last name field.  Crude, but I have plenty
> of horsepower if I can get all my computers banging away at this.
> 
> BTW, I ran (and timed) the "everything after the first space" query on
Neo2
> itself for a subset of 100,000 records and came up with about 10 hours to
> perform the update query for 64 million records, directly by a single
> machine.  Which means I could just do this if I have to by setting it to
run
> overnight.
> 
> I make a giant assumption that SQL Server can handle 4 different computers
> all trying to update data in the same field but against a different set of
> records?
> 
> Once that is finished, I will do essentially the same thing except against
> the last name field itself, in order to get rid of middle names.  Thus
this
> will be an iterative process until eventually I am left with the last name
> itself, in the last name field.
> 
> My problem here is that I can't get any other computer to register Neo2
SQL
> server.  I always get a "login failed as guest".  Any help in getting
around
> this would be much appreciated.  Explicit step by step instructions would
> help the most as I am by no stretch of the imagination fluent in SQL
> Server-ese.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
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> contain information protected by law from disclosure.
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> immediately and delete this email from your system.
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> email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They
> are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for
> loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from
> their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not.
> 
> 
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> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 


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jargon</a>
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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Mon Oct 11 13:31:39 2004
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:31:39 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF91B@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <DPEGIFJOAFKLEDNNDGHCGEAOHEAA.ebarro@afsweb.com>

John,

This trick might help.

Put an entry in your HOSTS file (one each machine that runs SQL server) that corresponds to the SQL server's IP and name

eg.

192.168.xxx.xxx	Neo2
192.168.xxx.xxx	Neo1
192.168.xxx.xxx	Soltek1
192.168.xxx.xxx	ColbyM6805
192.168.xxx.xxx	MaryDesktop

Everytime you register SQL server using EM it won't have difficulty finding the correct SQL server.

I learned this trick a while back when all of a sudden I could not register the SQL server successfully. Prior to that I didn't have any issues. Something changed (possibly a SQL server service pack) and EM stopped recognizing SQL server registrations the "old way". I haven't had any issues with registering SQL server using EM once I added an entry for each SQL server machine I wanted to register in the HOSTS file.

Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby,
John
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:02 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


Francisco,

Thanks for that.  I am not running the XP firewall (never will) but I am
running a firewall.  However I disabled all the firewalls for the purposes
of testing this stuff and that didn't help.  Having the port number is
important though for setting up my firewalls so I appreciate that.

The problem with using SQL Server authentication is that as soon as I get
into that I have to set up users (none exist at this point) and that brings
up what rights they need.  There are a TON of them and I don't really
understand that stuff.  One of the reasons I specifically asked for "step by
step".

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:10 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


Not only that, you are running XP SP2 IIRC from one of your ealier
posts... please check that your software firewall is allowing sql
server to get through it default listens on port 1433, so please make
sure that at least this port is open.

2ndly make sure that the Sql Server is set up to listen in mixed mode
so you can at your whim, choose between nt authentication and sql
Server sercuity... to do this go to Neo2, and right click the server
in EM, and choose the type of authentication allowed.

when registering from other pc's you can elect to use the IP instead
of the name, and thus make for less headaches..













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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 11 13:45:16 2004
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:45:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
Message-ID: <BAY19-F30w1SSfWXWzR00001db9@hotmail.com>

John,

Do you really need to set-up the users?  Can't you just log onto SQL Server 
using the standard (although not very secure) SA account with a password to 
process your data.  I don't understand where you are having the problem.  Do 
you have the client tools installed on the client machines and are you 
logging in using Windows Auth. or SQL Auth.?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
108 Franklin Street
Watertown, NY 13601
(315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Oct 11 13:55:06 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:55:06 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF91C@DISABILITYINS01>

ooooohhhh cool.  thanks

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Barro [mailto:ebarro at afsweb.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:32 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


John,

This trick might help.

Put an entry in your HOSTS file (one each machine that runs SQL server) that
corresponds to the SQL server's IP and name

eg.

192.168.xxx.xxx	Neo2
192.168.xxx.xxx	Neo1
192.168.xxx.xxx	Soltek1
192.168.xxx.xxx	ColbyM6805
192.168.xxx.xxx	MaryDesktop

Everytime you register SQL server using EM it won't have difficulty finding
the correct SQL server.

I learned this trick a while back when all of a sudden I could not register
the SQL server successfully. Prior to that I didn't have any issues.
Something changed (possibly a SQL server service pack) and EM stopped
recognizing SQL server registrations the "old way". I haven't had any issues
with registering SQL server using EM once I added an entry for each SQL
server machine I wanted to register in the HOSTS file.

Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby,
John
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:02 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


Francisco,

Thanks for that.  I am not running the XP firewall (never will) but I am
running a firewall.  However I disabled all the firewalls for the purposes
of testing this stuff and that didn't help.  Having the port number is
important though for setting up my firewalls so I appreciate that.

The problem with using SQL Server authentication is that as soon as I get
into that I have to set up users (none exist at this point) and that brings
up what rights they need.  There are a TON of them and I don't really
understand that stuff.  One of the reasons I specifically asked for "step by
step".

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:10 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


Not only that, you are running XP SP2 IIRC from one of your ealier
posts... please check that your software firewall is allowing sql
server to get through it default listens on port 1433, so please make
sure that at least this port is open.

2ndly make sure that the Sql Server is set up to listen in mixed mode
so you can at your whim, choose between nt authentication and sql
Server sercuity... to do this go to Neo2, and right click the server
in EM, and choose the type of authentication allowed.

when registering from other pc's you can elect to use the IP instead
of the name, and thus make for less headaches..













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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Oct 11 14:01:11 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:01:11 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF91D@DISABILITYINS01>

Julie,

I don't understand why I am having the problem either.  I have 4 machines
with SQL Server loaded, both client and server parts.

Soltek1 can be seen and registered from EVERY other machine.  Some of the
others can be SEEN by the others, but not registered.  In all cases I get a
"tempuser not authorized" kind of message (I'm not home at the moment so I
can's tell you the exact message though I think it is one of the past
messages).

I do not understand the mechanics of registering a remote server so I can't
really intelligently discuss any of this.  All I know is that good old
Soltek1 is available, and all the other machines can see it, and can
register it.  Most of the others can be found (are in the list of machines
that can be registered) but the registration itself fails saying that I
can't use the temp user.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Reardon-Taylor [mailto:prosoft6 at hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:45 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


John,

Do you really need to set-up the users?  Can't you just log onto SQL Server 
using the standard (although not very secure) SA account with a password to 
process your data.  I don't understand where you are having the problem.  Do

you have the client tools installed on the client machines and are you 
logging in using Windows Auth. or SQL Auth.?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
108 Franklin Street
Watertown, NY 13601
(315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net


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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Oct 11 14:33:19 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:33:19 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF91B@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF91B@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <416ADFFF.8030108@rogers.com>

Colby, John wrote:

>Francisco,
>
>Thanks for that.  I am not running the XP firewall (never will) but I am
>running a firewall.  However I disabled all the firewalls for the purposes
>of testing this stuff and that didn't help.  Having the port number is
>important though for setting up my firewalls so I appreciate that.
>
>The problem with using SQL Server authentication is that as soon as I get
>into that I have to set up users (none exist at this point) and that brings
>up what rights they need.  There are a TON of them and I don't really
>understand that stuff.  One of the reasons I specifically asked for "step by
>step".
>
>John W. Colby
>The DIS Database Guy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:10 PM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
>
>
>Not only that, you are running XP SP2 IIRC from one of your ealier
>posts... please check that your software firewall is allowing sql
>server to get through it default listens on port 1433, so please make
>sure that at least this port is open.
>
>2ndly make sure that the Sql Server is set up to listen in mixed mode
>so you can at your whim, choose between nt authentication and sql
>Server sercuity... to do this go to Neo2, and right click the server
>in EM, and choose the type of authentication allowed.
>
>when registering from other pc's you can elect to use the IP instead
>of the name, and thus make for less headaches..
>
>
>On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:25:41 +0930, Haslett, Andrew
><andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au> wrote:
>  
>
>>Use SQL Server authentication and specify a username and password when
>>connecting.
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
>>Sent: Sunday, 10 October 2004 4:06 PM
>>To: SQLServer
>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
>>
>>OK, I really need to get my SQL Server on one machine registered on my
>>    
>>
>other
>  
>
>>machines so I can get some work done.
>>
>>I have 5 computers I need to use.
>>
>>I have the nVLDB database running on Neo2 I have SQL Server (client and
>>server) running on Neo1, Soltek1, ColbyM6805 and soon on MaryDesktop.
>>
>>I need to get as many computers as possible running against Neo2 doing
>>updates to the data in nVLDB.  The deal is that a single field in nVLDB
>>    
>>
>has
>  
>
>>a mishmash of data for the names of people, i.e. titles, first name,
>>    
>>
>middle
>  
>
>>name, last name, in any combination.  For my purposes all I really need is
>>the last complete word (name) from this mishmash.  I am not swift enough
>>with SQL Server and its built-in functions to find the position of the
>>    
>>
>LAST
>  
>
>>space (if any) but I do have code to find the FIRST space.  Thus my
>>objective is to pull out everything after the first space from the
>>EntireName field and save it in a LastName field, then on the second and
>>subsequent passes pull everything after the first space from the LastName
>>field and drop it back into the last name field.  Crude, but I have plenty
>>of horsepower if I can get all my computers banging away at this.
>>
>>BTW, I ran (and timed) the "everything after the first space" query on
>>    
>>
>Neo2
>  
>
>>itself for a subset of 100,000 records and came up with about 10 hours to
>>perform the update query for 64 million records, directly by a single
>>machine.  Which means I could just do this if I have to by setting it to
>>    
>>
>run
>  
>
>>overnight.
>>
>>I make a giant assumption that SQL Server can handle 4 different computers
>>all trying to update data in the same field but against a different set of
>>records?
>>
>>Once that is finished, I will do essentially the same thing except against
>>the last name field itself, in order to get rid of middle names.  Thus
>>    
>>
>this
>  
>
>>will be an iterative process until eventually I am left with the last name
>>itself, in the last name field.
>>
>>My problem here is that I can't get any other computer to register Neo2
>>    
>>
>SQL
>  
>
>>server.  I always get a "login failed as guest".  Any help in getting
>>    
>>
>around
>  
>
>>this would be much appreciated.  Explicit step by step instructions would
>>help the most as I am by no stretch of the imagination fluent in SQL
>>Server-ese.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
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>
>
>  
>
At least for the time being, you only need 1 user, which you already 
have -- sa.
Once you finally get around to adding users I STRONGLY recommend that 
you use roles rather than just users. That way you can define a role 
once, and then add all the users you want to it. Change the roles of the 
role and all users inherit the change.

You can also build roles up. I often go this route. I.e.

Role -- sales staff:: no table rights. Rights to various procedures that 
allow update, insert, delete maybe.
Role -- Manager: no table rights. Rights to do anything Sales can do, 
plus run some reports and view  salaries.
Role -- Developer:: rights to tables, sprocs, views, etc.

Now add  JWC to Sales and also to Manager. Everyone else in Sales gets 
only those rights, but JWC gets Manager rights as well.


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Oct 11 15:32:18 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:32:18 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
In-Reply-To: <416ADFFF.8030108@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c4afd1$6a51fc00$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Yea, I don't need any of that stuff.  I am the only user.  I just need all
the Servers to recognize that user.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

At least for the time being, you only need 1 user, which you already 
have -- sa.
Once you finally get around to adding users I STRONGLY recommend that 
you use roles rather than just users. That way you can define a role 
once, and then add all the users you want to it. Change the roles of the 
role and all users inherit the change.

You can also build roles up. I often go this route. I.e.

Role -- sales staff:: no table rights. Rights to various procedures that 
allow update, insert, delete maybe.
Role -- Manager: no table rights. Rights to do anything Sales can do, 
plus run some reports and view  salaries.
Role -- Developer:: rights to tables, sprocs, views, etc.

Now add  JWC to Sales and also to Manager. Everyone else in Sales gets 
only those rights, but JWC gets Manager rights as well.
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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Mon Oct 11 19:32:43 2004
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:02:43 +0930
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E58D@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

If this is just for your own purposes, then use the built-in sa account as
suggested.

Its not an issue of being able to 'see' the other servers, or another
network issue, its that you don't have permissions as its assuming you're
using the Guest account when using Windows (Integrated) Authentication.

Set it up to use SQL Authentication - specify the same password for the sa
account so that you only have to remember one, and then use these
credentials when registering servers from the other machines.


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2004 6:02 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database

Yea, I don't need any of that stuff.  I am the only user.  I just need all
the Servers to recognize that user.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

At least for the time being, you only need 1 user, which you already have --
sa.
Once you finally get around to adding users I STRONGLY recommend that you
use roles rather than just users. That way you can define a role once, and
then add all the users you want to it. Change the roles of the role and all
users inherit the change.

You can also build roles up. I often go this route. I.e.

Role -- sales staff:: no table rights. Rights to various procedures that
allow update, insert, delete maybe.
Role -- Manager: no table rights. Rights to do anything Sales can do, plus
run some reports and view  salaries.
Role -- Developer:: rights to tables, sprocs, views, etc.

Now add  JWC to Sales and also to Manager. Everyone else in Sales gets only
those rights, but JWC gets Manager rights as well.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Oct 11 21:00:20 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:00:20 -0400
Subject: LRE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E58D@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000001c4afff$3d936e50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Andrew,

>its that you don't have permissions as its assuming you're using the 
>Guest account when using Windows (Integrated) Authentication.

And why is it assuming that?  Is there any way to specify an account?

>Set it up to use SQL Authentication - specify the same password for the 
>sa account so that you only have to remember one, and then use these 
>credentials when registering servers from the other machines.

I am told that SQL Authentication is a security risk for reasons unknown (to
me).  Besides which, 

>Set it up to use SQL Authentication - specify the same password for the 
>sa account so that you only have to remember one, and then use these 
>credentials when registering servers from the other machines.

Is just vague enough that I haven't been able to figure this out.  When I
installed SQL Server it asked me what I wanted.  I specified Windows login
authentication.  I have NO CLUE how to "set it up to" do anything.  I can
see where I "set up a new user" but that sure doesn't appear to be what I am
after.

I have searched BOL and found all kinds of stuff, but not how to go in and
tell SQL Server to switch from using Windows Authentication to SQL Server
Login (or both).

***********
SQL Server Authentication Modes
When SQL Server 2000 is running on Windows NT or Windows 2000, members of
the sysadmin fixed server role can specify one of two authentication modes: 

Windows Authentication Mode 
Only Windows Authentication is allowed. Users cannot specify a SQL Server
2000 login ID. This is the default authentication mode for SQL Server 2000.
You cannot specify Windows Authentication Mode for an instance of SQL Server
running on Windows 98, because the operating system does not support Windows
Authentication.

Mixed Mode 
If users supply a SQL Server 2000 login ID when they log on, they are
authenticated using SQL Server Authentication. If they do not supply a SQL
Server 2000 login ID, or request Windows Authentication, they are
authenticated using Windows Authentication.

These modes are specified during setup or with SQL Server Enterprise
Manager.
************

Well isn't THAT just wonderful?  I now know that it can be done with EM.

I have gone in to EM, to the properties window, security tab.  I tell it SQL
Server and Windows.  I tell it to start and run SQL Server using
Administrator and the password.  I close and restart (and even reboot).  I
switch to another computer.  I try to attach a server.  I give it the
Administrator user name and the password (SQL Server login using information
provided by the system administrator) and it fails with "Login failed for
user Administrator".

I don't know what else to do here.  I am NOT a Database Administrator, I am
a poor shmuck trying to get my systems to play.  Suggestions like "set it up
to use..." just don't help me.  Things like 

"Open EM"
"Click on..."
"click on..."
"enter..."

THAT would help me.

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Mon Oct 11 21:45:07 2004
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:15:07 +0930
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E590@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

You did it all correctly except the account isn't 'administrator', its
actually just 'sa' (which stands for system administrator).  So the username
is actually sa and the password is what you specified.

The security risks you speak of are correct, as the sa account has full
rights over the entire instance of SQL Server you are using, which you often
don't require - however if you were to use Windows Auth, you'd still need to
set up the login and access permissions for *an* account in SQL itself for
it to work.

Therefore whichever way you go, you'd still have to learn about logins /
roles / security etc. and from what I understand of your requirements, you
don't have time to learn or master this.

Therefore, the sa account is the easiest for you to setup and use, as it
will require no configuration of account / security etc -> and as (I think)
you're on a (relatively) isolated network with hardware, software firewall /
NAT etc., the security risks are no more severe than if someone hacked into
your machine anyway.

Cheers,
A

 

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2004 11:30 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: LRE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database

Andrew,

>its that you don't have permissions as its assuming you're using the 
>Guest account when using Windows (Integrated) Authentication.

And why is it assuming that?  Is there any way to specify an account?

>Set it up to use SQL Authentication - specify the same password for the 
>sa account so that you only have to remember one, and then use these 
>credentials when registering servers from the other machines.

I am told that SQL Authentication is a security risk for reasons unknown (to
me).  Besides which, 

>Set it up to use SQL Authentication - specify the same password for the 
>sa account so that you only have to remember one, and then use these 
>credentials when registering servers from the other machines.

Is just vague enough that I haven't been able to figure this out.  When I
installed SQL Server it asked me what I wanted.  I specified Windows login
authentication.  I have NO CLUE how to "set it up to" do anything.  I can
see where I "set up a new user" but that sure doesn't appear to be what I am
after.

I have searched BOL and found all kinds of stuff, but not how to go in and
tell SQL Server to switch from using Windows Authentication to SQL Server
Login (or both).

***********
SQL Server Authentication Modes
When SQL Server 2000 is running on Windows NT or Windows 2000, members of
the sysadmin fixed server role can specify one of two authentication modes: 

Windows Authentication Mode
Only Windows Authentication is allowed. Users cannot specify a SQL Server
2000 login ID. This is the default authentication mode for SQL Server 2000.
You cannot specify Windows Authentication Mode for an instance of SQL Server
running on Windows 98, because the operating system does not support Windows
Authentication.

Mixed Mode
If users supply a SQL Server 2000 login ID when they log on, they are
authenticated using SQL Server Authentication. If they do not supply a SQL
Server 2000 login ID, or request Windows Authentication, they are
authenticated using Windows Authentication.

These modes are specified during setup or with SQL Server Enterprise
Manager.
************

Well isn't THAT just wonderful?  I now know that it can be done with EM.

I have gone in to EM, to the properties window, security tab.  I tell it SQL
Server and Windows.  I tell it to start and run SQL Server using
Administrator and the password.  I close and restart (and even reboot).  I
switch to another computer.  I try to attach a server.  I give it the
Administrator user name and the password (SQL Server login using information
provided by the system administrator) and it fails with "Login failed for
user Administrator".

I don't know what else to do here.  I am NOT a Database Administrator, I am
a poor shmuck trying to get my systems to play.  Suggestions like "set it up
to use..." just don't help me.  Things like 

"Open EM"
"Click on..."
"click on..."
"enter..."

THAT would help me.

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Oct 11 22:42:40 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:42:40 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E590@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000101c4b00d$8a5cd6a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Andrew,

Well, halafrigginlula.  On Soltek1 I tried to register Neo1 and Neo2, using
sa and the password.  Neo2 registered correctly, Neo1 gives me a "login
failed for user sa".  Likewise, on Neo1 I registered Neo2 using sa and the
password.  Soltek1 was already registered.  My laptop ColbyM6805 registered
Neo2 using sa and the password but the registration of Neo1 and Soltek
failed. From my wife's machine MaryDesktop I can see all the other servers
but only Neo2 registered successfully.  Neo1 and Soltek1 failed with the
"login failed for user sa" and M6805 failed with the infamous "guest".

In fact this gets me 1/2 way there since the nVLDB physically resides on
Neo2, I can now bang at it from Neo1, Soltek1, MaryDesktop and my Laptop.  I
am definitely thrilled at the improvement in my situation however I'm also
very uneasy that I have no clue why this "X registers but Y fails" is going
on.

I also tried to use the property dialog of the local laptop on my laptop to
set the startup service to sa and oh man what a mistake THAT was.  Now I
can't get the local database to login at all.  It tells me the login is
broken or something (so true! 8(

I can't get at the property dialog, I can't start the service manager,
basically I am really hosed on that machine.  Which is a problem since a
database for a project I am working on is on that machine.  Sigh.

So any ideas how do I get back in to this database?

Any ideas why the sa account works on Neo2 but not on Neo1 or Soltek1?

Is there any way to just look at all the accounts like you can in Windows?
If I could do that I might be able to compare machine to machine and see
what the heck is going on here.  AFAIK I just told it the default install of
SQL Server so I just don't understand why the responses are so different
from machine to machine.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett,
Andrew
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:45 PM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


You did it all correctly except the account isn't 'administrator', its
actually just 'sa' (which stands for system administrator).  So the username
is actually sa and the password is what you specified.

The security risks you speak of are correct, as the sa account has full
rights over the entire instance of SQL Server you are using, which you often
don't require - however if you were to use Windows Auth, you'd still need to
set up the login and access permissions for *an* account in SQL itself for
it to work.

Therefore whichever way you go, you'd still have to learn about logins /
roles / security etc. and from what I understand of your requirements, you
don't have time to learn or master this.

Therefore, the sa account is the easiest for you to setup and use, as it
will require no configuration of account / security etc -> and as (I think)
you're on a (relatively) isolated network with hardware, software firewall /
NAT etc., the security risks are no more severe than if someone hacked into
your machine anyway.

Cheers,
A




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Oct 11 23:01:59 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:01:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
In-Reply-To: <000101c4b00d$8a5cd6a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000201c4b010$38e31cf0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Well, I spoke too soon.  Now Neo2 is pegging the CPU usage all the time, and
EM can't even get in to it's own database (local).  Or more correctly it can
see the db but when I try and click on databases it just hangs with the
hourglass.  Which is a catastrophe!  Before I could at least use Neo2 from
Neo2, now I can't do anything at all.

Come to think of it, it may be trying in vain to roll back a transaction or
something.  I had QA running an update query when I changed the login type
property which forcefully shut down SQL Server.

I think I'll go to bed and pray that this thing survives.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:43 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


Andrew,

Well, halafrigginlula.  On Soltek1 I tried to register Neo1 and Neo2, using
sa and the password.  Neo2 registered correctly, Neo1 gives me a "login
failed for user sa".  Likewise, on Neo1 I registered Neo2 using sa and the
password.  Soltek1 was already registered.  My laptop ColbyM6805 registered
Neo2 using sa and the password but the registration of Neo1 and Soltek
failed. From my wife's machine MaryDesktop I can see all the other servers
but only Neo2 registered successfully.  Neo1 and Soltek1 failed with the
"login failed for user sa" and M6805 failed with the infamous "guest".

In fact this gets me 1/2 way there since the nVLDB physically resides on
Neo2, I can now bang at it from Neo1, Soltek1, MaryDesktop and my Laptop.  I
am definitely thrilled at the improvement in my situation however I'm also
very uneasy that I have no clue why this "X registers but Y fails" is going
on.

I also tried to use the property dialog of the local laptop on my laptop to
set the startup service to sa and oh man what a mistake THAT was.  Now I
can't get the local database to login at all.  It tells me the login is
broken or something (so true! 8(

I can't get at the property dialog, I can't start the service manager,
basically I am really hosed on that machine.  Which is a problem since a
database for a project I am working on is on that machine.  Sigh.

So any ideas how do I get back in to this database?

Any ideas why the sa account works on Neo2 but not on Neo1 or Soltek1?

Is there any way to just look at all the accounts like you can in Windows?
If I could do that I might be able to compare machine to machine and see
what the heck is going on here.  AFAIK I just told it the default install of
SQL Server so I just don't understand why the responses are so different
from machine to machine.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett,
Andrew
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:45 PM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


You did it all correctly except the account isn't 'administrator', its
actually just 'sa' (which stands for system administrator).  So the username
is actually sa and the password is what you specified.

The security risks you speak of are correct, as the sa account has full
rights over the entire instance of SQL Server you are using, which you often
don't require - however if you were to use Windows Auth, you'd still need to
set up the login and access permissions for *an* account in SQL itself for
it to work.

Therefore whichever way you go, you'd still have to learn about logins /
roles / security etc. and from what I understand of your requirements, you
don't have time to learn or master this.

Therefore, the sa account is the easiest for you to setup and use, as it
will require no configuration of account / security etc -> and as (I think)
you're on a (relatively) isolated network with hardware, software firewall /
NAT etc., the security risks are no more severe than if someone hacked into
your machine anyway.

Cheers,
A


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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Mon Oct 11 23:43:56 2004
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:43:56 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
In-Reply-To: <000201c4b010$38e31cf0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <DPEGIFJOAFKLEDNNDGHCOEBKHEAA.ebarro@afsweb.com>

John,

Here's a stab in the dark...

Check to see what Windows account SQL server and SQL server agent is running on for each machine. By default it assumes that you will be running it under the Administrator account for that machine unless you change it. If it is running under a different account then you will need to make sure that the account it is running in has the correct rights and privileges for SQL server to function properly.

By default the Administrators group is included as a login in SQL server. It is called BUILTIN/Administrators when you look in the Security section (Login) in EM. I'm guessing that part of your problem stems from the fact that you don't have synchronized accounts on all the machines. If you ensure that all the Administrator logins in all your Windows machines that are running SQL server are the same then you should technically have no problems. If you are using a different account to run SQL server you will need to make sure that you are using the same account on all machines and that account has the same rights and privileges to run SQL server. Bottom line is...synchronize all the accounts that run SQL server on all machines.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 9:02 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


Well, I spoke too soon.  Now Neo2 is pegging the CPU usage all the time, and
EM can't even get in to it's own database (local).  Or more correctly it can
see the db but when I try and click on databases it just hangs with the
hourglass.  Which is a catastrophe!  Before I could at least use Neo2 from
Neo2, now I can't do anything at all.

Come to think of it, it may be trying in vain to roll back a transaction or
something.  I had QA running an update query when I changed the login type
property which forcefully shut down SQL Server.

I think I'll go to bed and pray that this thing survives.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:43 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


Andrew,

Well, halafrigginlula.  On Soltek1 I tried to register Neo1 and Neo2, using
sa and the password.  Neo2 registered correctly, Neo1 gives me a "login
failed for user sa".  Likewise, on Neo1 I registered Neo2 using sa and the
password.  Soltek1 was already registered.  My laptop ColbyM6805 registered
Neo2 using sa and the password but the registration of Neo1 and Soltek
failed. From my wife's machine MaryDesktop I can see all the other servers
but only Neo2 registered successfully.  Neo1 and Soltek1 failed with the
"login failed for user sa" and M6805 failed with the infamous "guest".

In fact this gets me 1/2 way there since the nVLDB physically resides on
Neo2, I can now bang at it from Neo1, Soltek1, MaryDesktop and my Laptop.  I
am definitely thrilled at the improvement in my situation however I'm also
very uneasy that I have no clue why this "X registers but Y fails" is going
on.

I also tried to use the property dialog of the local laptop on my laptop to
set the startup service to sa and oh man what a mistake THAT was.  Now I
can't get the local database to login at all.  It tells me the login is
broken or something (so true! 8(

I can't get at the property dialog, I can't start the service manager,
basically I am really hosed on that machine.  Which is a problem since a
database for a project I am working on is on that machine.  Sigh.

So any ideas how do I get back in to this database?

Any ideas why the sa account works on Neo2 but not on Neo1 or Soltek1?

Is there any way to just look at all the accounts like you can in Windows?
If I could do that I might be able to compare machine to machine and see
what the heck is going on here.  AFAIK I just told it the default install of
SQL Server so I just don't understand why the responses are so different
from machine to machine.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett,
Andrew
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:45 PM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


You did it all correctly except the account isn't 'administrator', its
actually just 'sa' (which stands for system administrator).  So the username
is actually sa and the password is what you specified.

The security risks you speak of are correct, as the sa account has full
rights over the entire instance of SQL Server you are using, which you often
don't require - however if you were to use Windows Auth, you'd still need to
set up the login and access permissions for *an* account in SQL itself for
it to work.

Therefore whichever way you go, you'd still have to learn about logins /
roles / security etc. and from what I understand of your requirements, you
don't have time to learn or master this.

Therefore, the sa account is the easiest for you to setup and use, as it
will require no configuration of account / security etc -> and as (I think)
you're on a (relatively) isolated network with hardware, software firewall /
NAT etc., the security risks are no more severe than if someone hacked into
your machine anyway.

Cheers,
A


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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Tue Oct 12 00:19:18 2004
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:49:18 +0930
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E591@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

Quick overview of both the Authentication methods:

* SQL Authentication:  Standard username and password access.  This means
the username (login) must be created within SQL Server and given appropriate
rights.  You must specify a username and password when you try to connect to
SQL.

* Windows Authentication:  Simplistically, your current Windows account
credentials (username and password of the account you logged into Windows
with) are basically passed to SQL Server in the background.  This account
also needs to be given the appropriate access within SQL Server itself.  You
therefore don't specify any username and password yourself when connecting.

By Default the SQL Account (SA) and the Windows Accounts (Local
Administrators Group) are given access, as well as a few others.


>> I also tried to use the property dialog of the local laptop on my laptop
>> to set the startup service to sa and oh man what a mistake THAT was.

Unless running in a domain environment, the account that the MSSQLSERVICE
service runs under (from services.msc) shouldn't really need to be anything
else except the default ('Local System').  This account needs to have
certain rights on the machine such as registry / file permissions that are
set up when SQL is installed, so changing this to sa will stuff it up, since
there is no such Windows User as 'SA'.

If you are able to stop the service, change the account it runs under back
to local system (through services.msc), and restart the service, you
*should* be OK.  

When a SQL Instance is set to SQL Authentication, you should still be able
to register/login to EM using Windows Authentication.  This means if you are
logged onto your machine using any account with local admin rights, you
should be able to connect to the instance through EM using Windows
Authentication.  (An Instance set to SQL Authentication allows both Windows
and SQL Authentication.)

If that doesn't work you should be able to specify the SA username and
password when connecting through EM.  

As for your other issues, if you're certain you changed all your instances
to SQL Authentication (restarted the service) and know the password, then I
can only this there's some type of DNS issue.  Perhaps try the IP address
instead?

A

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2004 1:32 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database

Well, I spoke too soon.  Now Neo2 is pegging the CPU usage all the time, and
EM can't even get in to it's own database (local).  Or more correctly it can
see the db but when I try and click on databases it just hangs with the
hourglass.  Which is a catastrophe!  Before I could at least use Neo2 from
Neo2, now I can't do anything at all.

Come to think of it, it may be trying in vain to roll back a transaction or
something.  I had QA running an update query when I changed the login type
property which forcefully shut down SQL Server.

I think I'll go to bed and pray that this thing survives.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:43 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


Andrew,

Well, halafrigginlula.  On Soltek1 I tried to register Neo1 and Neo2, using
sa and the password.  Neo2 registered correctly, Neo1 gives me a "login
failed for user sa".  Likewise, on Neo1 I registered Neo2 using sa and the
password.  Soltek1 was already registered.  My laptop ColbyM6805 registered
Neo2 using sa and the password but the registration of Neo1 and Soltek
failed. From my wife's machine MaryDesktop I can see all the other servers
but only Neo2 registered successfully.  Neo1 and Soltek1 failed with the
"login failed for user sa" and M6805 failed with the infamous "guest".

In fact this gets me 1/2 way there since the nVLDB physically resides on
Neo2, I can now bang at it from Neo1, Soltek1, MaryDesktop and my Laptop.  I
am definitely thrilled at the improvement in my situation however I'm also
very uneasy that I have no clue why this "X registers but Y fails" is going
on.

I also tried to use the property dialog of the local laptop on my laptop to
set the startup service to sa and oh man what a mistake THAT was.  Now I
can't get the local database to login at all.  It tells me the login is
broken or something (so true! 8(

I can't get at the property dialog, I can't start the service manager,
basically I am really hosed on that machine.  Which is a problem since a
database for a project I am working on is on that machine.  Sigh.

So any ideas how do I get back in to this database?

Any ideas why the sa account works on Neo2 but not on Neo1 or Soltek1?

Is there any way to just look at all the accounts like you can in Windows?
If I could do that I might be able to compare machine to machine and see
what the heck is going on here.  AFAIK I just told it the default install of
SQL Server so I just don't understand why the responses are so different
from machine to machine.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett,
Andrew
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:45 PM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database


You did it all correctly except the account isn't 'administrator', its
actually just 'sa' (which stands for system administrator).  So the username
is actually sa and the password is what you specified.

The security risks you speak of are correct, as the sa account has full
rights over the entire instance of SQL Server you are using, which you often
don't require - however if you were to use Windows Auth, you'd still need to
set up the login and access permissions for *an* account in SQL itself for
it to work.

Therefore whichever way you go, you'd still have to learn about logins /
roles / security etc. and from what I understand of your requirements, you
don't have time to learn or master this.

Therefore, the sa account is the easiest for you to setup and use, as it
will require no configuration of account / security etc -> and as (I think)
you're on a (relatively) isolated network with hardware, software firewall /
NAT etc., the security risks are no more severe than if someone hacked into
your machine anyway.

Cheers,
A


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 13 02:14:16 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:14:16 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
References: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD204E591@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
Message-ID: <416CD5C8.7020606@shaw.ca>


Came across this introductory article complete with sample Access 97 and 
2000 mdb's
that some may find useful for SQL Server or MSDE. Reguires "pub" test 
SQL database be installed.

How to Execute SQL Stored Procedures from Microsoft Access

The simplicity and popularity of SQL Server means that more and more
developers who build applications with Microsoft Access will want to learn
how to take advantage of server side processing using SQL Server Stored
Procedures. In this article, Danny Lesandrini demonstrates a simple method
for executing procedures from Access 97 and Access 2000.
This method uses SQL server password authentication rather than windows.

http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,14m8,1,aef3,djrw,dbyg,2122



Haslett, Andrew wrote:

>Quick overview of both the Authentication methods:
>
>* SQL Authentication:  Standard username and password access.  This means
>the username (login) must be created within SQL Server and given appropriate
>rights.  You must specify a username and password when you try to connect to
>SQL.
>
>* Windows Authentication:  Simplistically, your current Windows account
>credentials (username and password of the account you logged into Windows
>with) are basically passed to SQL Server in the background.  This account
>also needs to be given the appropriate access within SQL Server itself.  You
>therefore don't specify any username and password yourself when connecting.
>
>By Default the SQL Account (SA) and the Windows Accounts (Local
>Administrators Group) are given access, as well as a few others.
>
>
>  
>
>>>I also tried to use the property dialog of the local laptop on my laptop
>>>to set the startup service to sa and oh man what a mistake THAT was.
>>>      
>>>
>
>Unless running in a domain environment, the account that the MSSQLSERVICE
>service runs under (from services.msc) shouldn't really need to be anything
>else except the default ('Local System').  This account needs to have
>certain rights on the machine such as registry / file permissions that are
>set up when SQL is installed, so changing this to sa will stuff it up, since
>there is no such Windows User as 'SA'.
>
>If you are able to stop the service, change the account it runs under back
>to local system (through services.msc), and restart the service, you
>*should* be OK.  
>
>When a SQL Instance is set to SQL Authentication, you should still be able
>to register/login to EM using Windows Authentication.  This means if you are
>logged onto your machine using any account with local admin rights, you
>should be able to connect to the instance through EM using Windows
>Authentication.  (An Instance set to SQL Authentication allows both Windows
>and SQL Authentication.)
>
>If that doesn't work you should be able to specify the SA username and
>password when connecting through EM.  
>
>As for your other issues, if you're certain you changed all your instances
>to SQL Authentication (restarted the service) and know the password, then I
>can only this there's some type of DNS issue.  Perhaps try the IP address
>instead?
>
>A
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2004 1:32 PM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
>
>Well, I spoke too soon.  Now Neo2 is pegging the CPU usage all the time, and
>EM can't even get in to it's own database (local).  Or more correctly it can
>see the db but when I try and click on databases it just hangs with the
>hourglass.  Which is a catastrophe!  Before I could at least use Neo2 from
>Neo2, now I can't do anything at all.
>
>Come to think of it, it may be trying in vain to roll back a transaction or
>something.  I had QA running an update query when I changed the login type
>property which forcefully shut down SQL Server.
>
>I think I'll go to bed and pray that this thing survives.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
>Colby
>Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:43 PM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
>
>
>Andrew,
>
>Well, halafrigginlula.  On Soltek1 I tried to register Neo1 and Neo2, using
>sa and the password.  Neo2 registered correctly, Neo1 gives me a "login
>failed for user sa".  Likewise, on Neo1 I registered Neo2 using sa and the
>password.  Soltek1 was already registered.  My laptop ColbyM6805 registered
>Neo2 using sa and the password but the registration of Neo1 and Soltek
>failed. From my wife's machine MaryDesktop I can see all the other servers
>but only Neo2 registered successfully.  Neo1 and Soltek1 failed with the
>"login failed for user sa" and M6805 failed with the infamous "guest".
>
>In fact this gets me 1/2 way there since the nVLDB physically resides on
>Neo2, I can now bang at it from Neo1, Soltek1, MaryDesktop and my Laptop.  I
>am definitely thrilled at the improvement in my situation however I'm also
>very uneasy that I have no clue why this "X registers but Y fails" is going
>on.
>
>I also tried to use the property dialog of the local laptop on my laptop to
>set the startup service to sa and oh man what a mistake THAT was.  Now I
>can't get the local database to login at all.  It tells me the login is
>broken or something (so true! 8(
>
>I can't get at the property dialog, I can't start the service manager,
>basically I am really hosed on that machine.  Which is a problem since a
>database for a project I am working on is on that machine.  Sigh.
>
>So any ideas how do I get back in to this database?
>
>Any ideas why the sa account works on Neo2 but not on Neo1 or Soltek1?
>
>Is there any way to just look at all the accounts like you can in Windows?
>If I could do that I might be able to compare machine to machine and see
>what the heck is going on here.  AFAIK I just told it the default install of
>SQL Server so I just don't understand why the responses are so different
>from machine to machine.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett,
>Andrew
>Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:45 PM
>To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Problems registering database
>
>
>You did it all correctly except the account isn't 'administrator', its
>actually just 'sa' (which stands for system administrator).  So the username
>is actually sa and the password is what you specified.
>
>The security risks you speak of are correct, as the sa account has full
>rights over the entire instance of SQL Server you are using, which you often
>don't require - however if you were to use Windows Auth, you'd still need to
>set up the login and access permissions for *an* account in SQL itself for
>it to work.
>
>Therefore whichever way you go, you'd still have to learn about logins /
>roles / security etc. and from what I understand of your requirements, you
>don't have time to learn or master this.
>
>Therefore, the sa account is the easiest for you to setup and use, as it
>will require no configuration of account / security etc -> and as (I think)
>you're on a (relatively) isolated network with hardware, software firewall /
>NAT etc., the security risks are no more severe than if someone hacked into
>your machine anyway.
>
>Cheers,
>A
>
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Oct 14 02:34:39 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:34:39 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
In-Reply-To: <416CD5C8.7020606@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c4b1c0$4343f1e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hi
If a SQL Server parent table has a GUID as its unique key, and I want to
link an Access child to it, can I? and if so what data type do I give the
linking key field in the child table? I want this to work for a form/subform
affair using LinkMaster and LinkChild.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 



From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Oct 14 10:30:48 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:30:48 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
In-Reply-To: <000001c4b1c0$4343f1e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
References: <416CD5C8.7020606@shaw.ca>
	<000001c4b1c0$4343f1e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <b874372a041014083018468ac8@mail.gmail.com>

iirc, Access 2000 and later have a guid data type.


On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:34:39 +0100, Andy Lacey
<andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi
> If a SQL Server parent table has a GUID as its unique key, and I want to
> link an Access child to it, can I? and if so what data type do I give the
> linking key field in the child table? I want this to work for a form/subform
> affair using LinkMaster and LinkChild.
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Thu Oct 14 11:25:28 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:25:28 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F003@snowmass.quiznos.net>

I have done this via converting the GUID to a string and linking.  There may be more elegant solutions but this was quick and effective for the small app I was working at the time.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Francisco Tapia
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:31 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs


iirc, Access 2000 and later have a guid data type.


On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:34:39 +0100, Andy Lacey
<andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi
> If a SQL Server parent table has a GUID as its unique key, and I want to
> link an Access child to it, can I? and if so what data type do I give the
> linking key field in the child table? I want this to work for a form/subform
> affair using LinkMaster and LinkChild.
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
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> 
> 


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Oct 14 12:06:50 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:06:50 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
In-Reply-To: <b874372a041014083018468ac8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4b210$3293bba0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Looked in AXP and don't see it.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: 14 October 2004 16:31
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
> 
> 
> iirc, Access 2000 and later have a guid data type.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:34:39 +0100, Andy Lacey 
> <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi
> > If a SQL Server parent table has a GUID as its unique key, 
> and I want 
> > to link an Access child to it, can I? and if so what data type do I 
> > give the linking key field in the child table? I want this 
> to work for 
> > a form/subform affair using LinkMaster and LinkChild.
> > 
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > 
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> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
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> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 12:23:24 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:23:24 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD0@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can set an autonumber to produce GUIDs by making it a replicationID
type.  But GUIDs are a weird combination that amounts to an array, so
the only success I've had with them in converting them back and forth to
strings for comparison using StringFromGUID and GUIDFromString.  DAO
supports a dbGUID datatype enum

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:07 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs


Looked in AXP and don't see it.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: 14 October 2004 16:31
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
> 
> 
> iirc, Access 2000 and later have a guid data type.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:34:39 +0100, Andy Lacey
> <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi
> > If a SQL Server parent table has a GUID as its unique key,
> and I want
> > to link an Access child to it, can I? and if so what data type do I
> > give the linking key field in the child table? I want this 
> to work for
> > a form/subform affair using LinkMaster and LinkChild.
> > 
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Oct 14 16:56:40 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:56:40 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
In-Reply-To: <000001c4b1c0$4343f1e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
References: <416CD5C8.7020606@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <416F82B8.24673.46FEEB4@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Oct 2004 at 8:34, Andy Lacey wrote:

> Hi
> If a SQL Server parent table has a GUID as its unique key, and I want to
> link an Access child to it, can I? and if so what data type do I give the
> linking key field in the child table? I want this to work for a form/subform
> affair using LinkMaster and LinkChild.
> 

Access calls GUIDs "ReplicationID"s. They are stored as a 128 bit (16 byte) 
number.

Set the "Data type" of the Access field to "Number".  Set the "Field size" 
of the number to 'ReplicationID".



-- 
Stuart




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Oct 15 01:25:50 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:25:50 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
In-Reply-To: <416F82B8.24673.46FEEB4@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001001c4b27f$d0c8ae60$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Got it. Terrific. Thanks Stuart.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: 14 October 2004 22:57
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Parent Child and GUIDs
> 
> 
> On 14 Oct 2004 at 8:34, Andy Lacey wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> > If a SQL Server parent table has a GUID as its unique key, 
> and I want 
> > to link an Access child to it, can I? and if so what data type do I 
> > give the linking key field in the child table? I want this 
> to work for 
> > a form/subform affair using LinkMaster and LinkChild.
> > 
> 
> Access calls GUIDs "ReplicationID"s. They are stored as a 128 
> bit (16 byte) 
> number.
> 
> Set the "Data type" of the Access field to "Number".  Set the 
> "Field size" 
> of the number to 'ReplicationID".
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
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From kens.programming at verizon.net  Mon Oct 18 17:15:10 2004
From: kens.programming at verizon.net (Ken Stoker)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:15:10 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Check for an error in a script
Message-ID: <20041018221411.LDKJ23519.out001.verizon.net@enterprise>

Does anyone know how to test to see if an insert fails in a DTS package?  I
am trying to create a script that will be part of a DTS package that runs
nightly, importing data from a text file into a holding area, and then the
script will move the data from the holding area into the production tables.
What I am trying to do is if the record won't insert because of some
violation, a failure flag is flipped for that record to signify a need to be
reviewed by someone.  If the insert is successful, then the record is
removed from the holding table.  

 

Any help is appreciated

 

Thanks

 

Ken

 

 

 



From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Oct 18 19:20:42 2004
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:20:42 +1300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Filling Table with Range of Dates
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20041019131807.019e69f0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

SQL2000

I have a table that I would like to fill in with a range of dates.  Is 
there a simple insert statement that I can do this easily, or do I need to 
write a loop and run a separate insert for each date?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 



From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 18 23:19:52 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 04:19:52 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Filling Table with Range of Dates
Message-ID: <BAY1-F243VsX7PVTdAM00009dc9@hotmail.com>

how about..

1. create a temporary table that contains identity column.

2. insert one record into that temporary table.

3. execute X number of insert statements with "select" as source of the 
table you just created (therefore, number of records will insert by two 
folds per insert execution).

4. when you are satisified with number of records in temporary table, write 
a final insert statement containing dateadd function with identity column as 
one of the parameters.

hth
Billy


>From: David Emerson <davide at dalyn.co.nz>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Filling Table with Range of Dates
>Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:20:42 +1300
>
>SQL2000
>
>I have a table that I would like to fill in with a range of dates.  Is 
>there a simple insert statement that I can do this easily, or do I need to 
>write a loop and run a separate insert for each date?
>
>Regards
>
>David Emerson
>Dalyn Software Ltd
>25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
>Wellington, New Zealand
>Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
>Mobile 027-280-9348
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From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Oct 19 02:07:50 2004
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:07:50 +1300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Filling Table with Range of Dates
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F243VsX7PVTdAM00009dc9@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY1-F243VsX7PVTdAM00009dc9@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20041019200158.019f2c10@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

That still means that I need to loop to run the insert statements.

What I have done is as follows:

         SET @MthDate = @FirstDate
         WHILE @MthDate <= @LastDate
                 BEGIN
                         INSERT INTO egasSQLbe.dbo.ttmpWholesaleMDQ ([Date])
                         VALUES (@MthDate)
                         SET @MthDate = DATEADD(day, 1, @MthDate)
                 END


I was looking to see if there was a simple way of running the insert as a 
single statement without the loop.

Mainly academic as what I have done works.

David

At 19/10/2004, you wrote:
>how about..
>
>1. create a temporary table that contains identity column.
>
>2. insert one record into that temporary table.
>
>3. execute X number of insert statements with "select" as source of the 
>table you just created (therefore, number of records will insert by two 
>folds per insert execution).
>
>4. when you are satisified with number of records in temporary table, 
>write a final insert statement containing dateadd function with identity 
>column as one of the parameters.
>
>hth
>Billy
>
>
>>From: David Emerson <davide at dalyn.co.nz>
>>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Filling Table with Range of Dates
>>Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:20:42 +1300
>>
>>SQL2000
>>
>>I have a table that I would like to fill in with a range of dates.  Is 
>>there a simple insert statement that I can do this easily, or do I need 
>>to write a loop and run a separate insert for each date?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>David Emerson
>>Dalyn Software Ltd
>>25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
>>Wellington, New Zealand
>>Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
>>Mobile 027-280-9348
>>
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>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Tue Oct 19 07:38:11 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:38:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Check for an error in a script
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485648@natexch.jenkens.com>

Provided the server has the add ins for sending mail, you could write a send
mail on failure for that step inside the DTS.  Usually for testing I run the
DTS manually and it will let me know if any steps failed and which ones they
are.  As long as they are labeled, I have been able to troubleshoot fairly
easily.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Stoker [mailto:kens.programming at verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:15 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Check for an error in a script


Does anyone know how to test to see if an insert fails in a DTS package?  I
am trying to create a script that will be part of a DTS package that runs
nightly, importing data from a text file into a holding area, and then the
script will move the data from the holding area into the production tables.
What I am trying to do is if the record won't insert because of some
violation, a failure flag is flipped for that record to signify a need to be
reviewed by someone.  If the insert is successful, then the record is
removed from the holding table.  

 

Any help is appreciated

 

Thanks

 

Ken

 

 

 

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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 19 18:05:34 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:05:34 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Filling Table with Range of Dates
Message-ID: <BAY1-F33aNgEpTX5V3G00000cb2@hotmail.com>

actually, there is no loop in my suggestion...
here is what I mean... (displays the last 365 days)

SET NOCOUNT ON
CREATE TABLE #THE_TABLE(THE_ID SMALLINT IDENTITY(1,1), THE_VALUE CHAR(1));

INSERT INTO #THE_TABLE VALUES('X');
INSERT INTO #THE_TABLE SELECT THE_VALUE FROM #THE_TABLE;

INSERT INTO #THE_TABLE SELECT TOP 363 A.THE_VALUE FROM #THE_TABLE A, 
#THE_TABLE B, #THE_TABLE C, #THE_TABLE D, #THE_TABLE E, #THE_TABLE F, 
#THE_TABLE G , #THE_TABLE H , #THE_TABLE I
SELECT DATEADD(day,-the_id+1, convert(varchar(10),getdate(),101)) FROM 
#THE_TABLE
SET NOCOUNT OFF

Billy

>From: David Emerson <davide at dalyn.co.nz>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Filling Table with Range of Dates
>Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:07:50 +1300
>
>That still means that I need to loop to run the insert statements.
>
>What I have done is as follows:
>
>         SET @MthDate = @FirstDate
>         WHILE @MthDate <= @LastDate
>                 BEGIN
>                         INSERT INTO egasSQLbe.dbo.ttmpWholesaleMDQ 
>([Date])
>                         VALUES (@MthDate)
>                         SET @MthDate = DATEADD(day, 1, @MthDate)
>                 END
>
>
>I was looking to see if there was a simple way of running the insert as a 
>single statement without the loop.
>
>Mainly academic as what I have done works.
>
>David
>
>At 19/10/2004, you wrote:
>>how about..
>>
>>1. create a temporary table that contains identity column.
>>
>>2. insert one record into that temporary table.
>>
>>3. execute X number of insert statements with "select" as source of the 
>>table you just created (therefore, number of records will insert by two 
>>folds per insert execution).
>>
>>4. when you are satisified with number of records in temporary table, 
>>write a final insert statement containing dateadd function with identity 
>>column as one of the parameters.
>>
>>hth
>>Billy
>>
>>
>>>From: David Emerson <davide at dalyn.co.nz>
>>>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>>>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Filling Table with Range of Dates
>>>Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:20:42 +1300
>>>
>>>SQL2000
>>>
>>>I have a table that I would like to fill in with a range of dates.  Is 
>>>there a simple insert statement that I can do this easily, or do I need 
>>>to write a loop and run a separate insert for each date?
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>David Emerson
>>>Dalyn Software Ltd
>>>25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
>>>Wellington, New Zealand
>>>Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
>>>Mobile 027-280-9348
>>>
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>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>>>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Oct 24 12:54:56 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:54:56 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
References: <BAY1-F33aNgEpTX5V3G00000cb2@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <417BEC70.70505@shaw.ca>

Some people were asking about SQL Reporting Services
Here is a 60 minute training lab with a downloadable  manual. Need to 
register and download a control.
Sometimes it is busy, limited number of seats.
It walks you through basics and screens available.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/traincert/virtuallab/default.mspx

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:05:55 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:05:55 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827877563@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:07:54 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:07:54 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827877627@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:13:46 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:13:46 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827877815@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:16:51 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:16:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827877913@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:23:44 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:23:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827878134@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:25:03 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:25:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827878177@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:30:09 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:30:09 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827878340@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:31:59 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:31:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827878397@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:36:16 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:36:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827878536@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:42:41 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:42:41 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827878740@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:51:22 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:51:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827879019@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 13:52:30 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:52:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827879055@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:02:21 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:02:21 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827879498@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:04:24 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:04:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827879564@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:09:05 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:09:05 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827879714@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:10:58 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:10:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827879773@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:14:11 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:14:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827879877@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:17:49 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:17:49 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827879992@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:21:13 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:21:13 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827880102@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:25:35 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:25:35 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827880241@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:31:14 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:31:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827880423@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:35:06 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:35:06 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827880547@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:38:58 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:38:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827880669@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:40:47 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:40:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827880727@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:44:20 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:44:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827880842@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:48:31 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:48:31 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827880975@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:56:00 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:56:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827881216@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:59:10 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:59:10 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827881317@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:01:30 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:01:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827881519@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:07:20 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:07:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827881706@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:09:36 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:09:36 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827881778@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:13:35 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:13:35 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827881905@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:16:45 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:16:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827882006@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:19:28 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:19:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827882094@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:23:06 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:23:06 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827882211@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:26:06 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:26:06 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827882307@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:32:39 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:32:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827882515@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:40:06 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:40:06 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827882755@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:44:04 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:44:04 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827882882@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:46:09 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:46:09 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827882948@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:48:33 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:48:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827883024@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:51:47 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:51:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827883127@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 15:59:03 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:59:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827883361@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:01:14 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:01:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827883559@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:03:50 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:03:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827883641@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:06:36 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:06:36 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827883730@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:11:15 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:11:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827883879@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:17:14 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:17:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827884071@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:18:33 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:18:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827884112@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:22:04 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:22:04 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827884226@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:26:45 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:26:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827884374@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:28:50 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:28:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827884441@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:31:58 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:31:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827884541@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:34:38 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:34:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827884627@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:44:07 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:44:07 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827884931@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Sun Oct 24 16:42:03 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:42:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE630509377@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

I have received over 60 emails on the SQL list and at least 15 or so
emails on the OT list all from Rick Nalley.  There is nothing in these
emails!  Is it just me or is this happening to everyone?

 

Jeff Barrows

MCP, MCAD, MCSD

 

Outbak Technologies, LLC

Racine, WI

jeff at outbaktech.com

 



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:47:17 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:47:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827885032@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct 24 16:47:38 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:47:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE630509377@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
Message-ID: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDECEFACPAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>

Maybe his cat is playing with the keyboard.... I got em too.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff
Barrows
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:42 PM
To: dba-OT; Dba-SQL
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley


I have received over 60 emails on the SQL list and at least 15 or so
emails on the OT list all from Rick Nalley.  There is nothing in these
emails!  Is it just me or is this happening to everyone?

 

Jeff Barrows

MCP, MCAD, MCSD

 

Outbak Technologies, LLC

Racine, WI

jeff at outbaktech.com

 

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From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:52:24 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:52:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
Message-ID: <827885196@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:55:31 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:55:31 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827885295@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 16:57:41 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:57:41 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
Message-ID: <827885364@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 17:06:22 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:06:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827885771@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 17:07:01 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:07:01 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
Message-ID: <827885792@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 17:12:31 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:12:31 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Virtual Lab for Reporting Services
Message-ID: <827885967@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From ricknalley at nalleyweb.com  Sun Oct 24 17:14:52 2004
From: ricknalley at nalleyweb.com (Rick Nalley)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:14:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
Message-ID: <827886042@mail.nalleyweb.com>



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct 25 10:22:15 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:22:15 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B0C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Me to.  It looks like somebody set up a test for Reporting Services
without thinking it through.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 2:42 PM
To: dba-OT; Dba-SQL
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley


I have received over 60 emails on the SQL list and at least 15 or so
emails on the OT list all from Rick Nalley.  There is nothing in these
emails!  Is it just me or is this happening to everyone?

 

Jeff Barrows

MCP, MCAD, MCSD

 

Outbak Technologies, LLC

Racine, WI

jeff at outbaktech.com

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Oct 25 11:45:53 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:45:53 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B0C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEGNCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

One slip of the html and everyone is up to their armpits in emails. It does
prove it works.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:22 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley


Me to.  It looks like somebody set up a test for Reporting Services
without thinking it through.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 2:42 PM
To: dba-OT; Dba-SQL
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley


I have received over 60 emails on the SQL list and at least 15 or so
emails on the OT list all from Rick Nalley.  There is nothing in these
emails!  Is it just me or is this happening to everyone?



Jeff Barrows

MCP, MCAD, MCSD



Outbak Technologies, LLC

Racine, WI

jeff at outbaktech.com



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From JFK at puj.edu.co  Tue Oct 26 12:14:15 2004
From: JFK at puj.edu.co (Julian Felipe Castrillon Trejos)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:14:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] executing .exe files using sql statement
Message-ID: <ECCE1C17FAB85140A69454A40B443FCA382CBC@CORREOWEB.puj.edu.co>

hello, i need to execute a .exe file using  a sql statement or a dts file, is this possible if it is how can i do it, i am running  a sql server 2000 database
 
thanks for your help
 
--------------------------------------------- 
Julian Castrillon T 
Ingeniero de sistemas y computacion
Analista, IDA Ltda 
Ingenieria y desarrollo aplicados 
--------------------------------------------- 
Jesus save, but only Buda 
made incremental backups


From CMackin at quiznos.com  Tue Oct 26 12:21:23 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:21:23 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] executing .exe files using sql statement
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F06A@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Look into the extended stored procedure xp_cmdshell, you can run an .exe from there.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Julian
Felipe Castrillon Trejos
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:14 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] executing .exe files using sql statement


hello, i need to execute a .exe file using  a sql statement or a dts file, is this possible if it is how can i do it, i am running  a sql server 2000 database
 
thanks for your help
 
--------------------------------------------- 
Julian Castrillon T 
Ingeniero de sistemas y computacion
Analista, IDA Ltda 
Ingenieria y desarrollo aplicados 
--------------------------------------------- 
Jesus save, but only Buda 
made incremental backups
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Oct 26 12:47:36 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:36 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] executing .exe files using sql statement
In-Reply-To: <ECCE1C17FAB85140A69454A40B443FCA382CBC@CORREOWEB.puj.edu.co>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEHHCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Julian:

I just received an ad to a SQL packager from Redhat and you might find it
interesting. The is a fully functional trial version that can be used.

www.red-gate.com/sql/sql_packager.htm

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Julian
Felipe Castrillon Trejos
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:14 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] executing .exe files using sql statement


hello, i need to execute a .exe file using  a sql statement or a dts file,
is this possible if it is how can i do it, i am running  a sql server 2000
database

thanks for your help

---------------------------------------------
Julian Castrillon T
Ingeniero de sistemas y computacion
Analista, IDA Ltda
Ingenieria y desarrollo aplicados
---------------------------------------------
Jesus save, but only Buda
made incremental backups
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Oct 26 17:57:29 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:57:29 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEGNCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B0C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEGNCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <b874372a041026155756f9ffa8@mail.gmail.com>

I have caught a bunch too, but I'm on Gmail, and it did a good job of 
buffering the problem :|


On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:45:53 -0700, Jim Lawrence (AccessD)
<accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> One slip of the html and everyone is up to their armpits in emails. It does
> prove it works.
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:22 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
> 
> Me to.  It looks like somebody set up a test for Reporting Services
> without thinking it through.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 2:42 PM
> To: dba-OT; Dba-SQL
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] (Cross Posted) Rick Nalley
> 
> I have received over 60 emails on the SQL list and at least 15 or so
> emails on the OT list all from Rick Nalley.  There is nothing in these
> emails!  Is it just me or is this happening to everyone?
> 
> Jeff Barrows
> 
> MCP, MCAD, MCSD
> 
> Outbak Technologies, LLC
> 
> Racine, WI
> 
> jeff at outbaktech.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 27 15:32:01 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:32:01 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] connecting to oracle from SQL Query Analyzer
Message-ID: <BAY1-F11davN3qljWwY0000d4bf@hotmail.com>

Hello:

I want to be able to connect to an Oracle database (version 8.1.x preferred) 
from SQL Query Analyzer.  Any ideas?  I tried using a linked server but I 
get the following error message when I try to query the oracle db.

Server: Msg 7399, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' reported an error.
[OLE/DB provider returned message: Oracle error occurred, but error message 
could not be retrieved from Oracle.]

I already have the oracle client sw installed on my machine and am able to 
query oracle from an oracle client but for some strange reason it is not 
working from QA.

thanks in advance.

Billy




From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 27 17:13:26 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:13:26 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] connecting to oracle from SQL Query Analyzer
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F11davN3qljWwY0000d4bf@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEIECHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Billy:

Check the following article; it might help:

http://databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.php/10894_3290801_1

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Billy
Pang
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:32 PM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] connecting to oracle from SQL Query Analyzer


Hello:

I want to be able to connect to an Oracle database (version 8.1.x preferred)
from SQL Query Analyzer.  Any ideas?  I tried using a linked server but I
get the following error message when I try to query the oracle db.

Server: Msg 7399, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' reported an error.
[OLE/DB provider returned message: Oracle error occurred, but error message
could not be retrieved from Oracle.]

I already have the oracle client sw installed on my machine and am able to
query oracle from an oracle client but for some strange reason it is not
working from QA.

thanks in advance.

Billy


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 27 17:17:41 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:17:41 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] connecting to oracle from SQL Query Analyzer
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F11davN3qljWwY0000d4bf@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEIECHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Billy:

PS check out the previous three articles for full details.
1. http://databasejournal.com/article.php/3085211
2. http://databasejournal.com/article.php/3103331
3. http://databasejournal.com/article.php/3116011
as well as the one I sent you:
4. http://databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.php/3290801

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Billy
Pang
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:32 PM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] connecting to oracle from SQL Query Analyzer


Hello:

I want to be able to connect to an Oracle database (version 8.1.x preferred)
from SQL Query Analyzer.  Any ideas?  I tried using a linked server but I
get the following error message when I try to query the oracle db.

Server: Msg 7399, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' reported an error.
[OLE/DB provider returned message: Oracle error occurred, but error message
could not be retrieved from Oracle.]

I already have the oracle client sw installed on my machine and am able to
query oracle from an oracle client but for some strange reason it is not
working from QA.

thanks in advance.

Billy


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Oct 27 21:51:04 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:51:04 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Getting rid of time in result set
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEIECHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c4bc98$fbbaa2e0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

How do I get rid of the time in a date column in the result set?

2005-01-02 00:00:00.000

Should be

2005-01-02

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 27 22:12:50 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:12:50 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Getting rid of time in result set
In-Reply-To: <000001c4bc98$fbbaa2e0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEIECHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <4180F052.30674.1304F270@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Oct 2004 at 22:51, John W. Colby wrote:

> How do I get rid of the time in a date column in the result set?
> 
> 2005-01-02 00:00:00.000
> 
> Should be
> 
> 2005-01-02
> 

Convert (myDate,nvarchar(10),10)

The third parameter "Style"  defines the formatting

10 = 2005-01-02
110 = 05-01-02
etc



-- 
Stuart




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Oct 27 22:27:59 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:27:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Getting rid of time in result set
In-Reply-To: <4180F052.30674.1304F270@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000101c4bc9e$23f8d060$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Thanks Stuart.  Is that SQL syntax or SQL Server specific syntax?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:13 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Getting rid of time in result set


On 27 Oct 2004 at 22:51, John W. Colby wrote:

> How do I get rid of the time in a date column in the result set?
> 
> 2005-01-02 00:00:00.000
> 
> Should be
> 
> 2005-01-02
> 

Convert (myDate,nvarchar(10),10)

The third parameter "Style"  defines the formatting

10 = 2005-01-02
110 = 05-01-02
etc



-- 
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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Wed Oct 27 22:40:28 2004
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:40:28 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Getting rid of time in result set
In-Reply-To: <000001c4bc98$fbbaa2e0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <DPEGIFJOAFKLEDNNDGHCMEPPHEAA.ebarro@afsweb.com>

CONVERT(varchar(11), yourdate, 105)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:51 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Getting rid of time in result set


How do I get rid of the time in a date column in the result set?

2005-01-02 00:00:00.000

Should be

2005-01-02

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Oct 28 01:00:15 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:00:15 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Getting rid of time in result set
In-Reply-To: <000101c4bc9e$23f8d060$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <4180F052.30674.1304F270@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4181178F.11394.139E3C13@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Oct 2004 at 23:27, John W. Colby wrote:

> Thanks Stuart.  Is that SQL syntax or SQL Server specific syntax?
.....
> 
> Convert (myDate,nvarchar(10),10)
> 

That would have been SQL Server 7 if I had got it right, but doing it off 
the top of my head, I reversed the first two parameters.

It should be CONVERT(Datatype(n),Expression,Style)





-- 
Stuart




From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 29 19:35:23 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:35:23 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
Message-ID: <BAY1-F16GiAw8HQEUEi00021171@hotmail.com>

Hello:

I have a table that contains one column with the following six values:

a1
a2
a21
a10x
a2a
a10

Currently if that column is sorted, it is sorted this way:

a1
a10
a10x
a2
a21
a2a

But I want it to be sorted this way:

a1
a2
a2a
a10
a10x
a21

(note: a2a comes before a10, a21 goes after a10x, etc...ergo, letters come 
before numbers, contrary to their ascii values)

Is it possible or is it a pipe dream?  Below is copy of code.

Thanks in advance,
Billy

/* cut here */
use tempdb
create table #the_table(the_value varchar(10));
insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a1');
insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a2');
insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a21');
insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a10x');
insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a2a');
insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a10');
select * from #the_table order by the_value
drop table #the_table;
/* cut here */




From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 29 19:42:20 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:42:20 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] connecting to oracle from SQL Query Analyzer
Message-ID: <BAY1-F2kUD5euwdUTaG00026b3b@hotmail.com>

Thanks Jim.  The 4th article was most helpful.

I was working with Oracle 8.  Could not install oracle client from CD.  As 
it turns out, there is an issue that prevents oracle 8 from being installed 
on a P4 system.  There is a patch avaliable for this; the alternate solution 
was to copy contents of cd to local disk and rename one of its files; then 
only then was I able to install the oracle client.  This issue was fixed in 
Oracle 9.

Billy

>From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] connecting to oracle from SQL Query Analyzer
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:17:41 -0700
>
>Billy:
>
>PS check out the previous three articles for full details.
>1. http://databasejournal.com/article.php/3085211
>2. http://databasejournal.com/article.php/3103331
>3. http://databasejournal.com/article.php/3116011
>as well as the one I sent you:
>4. http://databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.php/3290801
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Billy
>Pang
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:32 PM
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] connecting to oracle from SQL Query Analyzer
>
>
>Hello:
>
>I want to be able to connect to an Oracle database (version 8.1.x 
>preferred)
>from SQL Query Analyzer.  Any ideas?  I tried using a linked server but I
>get the following error message when I try to query the oracle db.
>
>Server: Msg 7399, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
>OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' reported an error.
>[OLE/DB provider returned message: Oracle error occurred, but error message
>could not be retrieved from Oracle.]
>
>I already have the oracle client sw installed on my machine and am able to
>query oracle from an oracle client but for some strange reason it is not
>working from QA.
>
>thanks in advance.
>
>Billy
>
>
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From ridermark at gmail.com  Fri Oct 29 20:37:34 2004
From: ridermark at gmail.com (Mark Rider)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:37:34 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F16GiAw8HQEUEi00021171@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY1-F16GiAw8HQEUEi00021171@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <a74f317804102918371b955449@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:35:23 +0000, Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I have a table that contains one column with the following six values:
> 
> a1
> a2
> a21
> a10x
> a2a
> a10
> 
> Currently if that column is sorted, it is sorted this way:
> 
> a1
> a10
> a10x
> a2
> a21
> a2a
> 
> But I want it to be sorted this way:
> 
> a1
> a2
> a2a
> a10
> a10x
> a21

What are you using to view the sorted column? That will be the best
thing to use to figure out the sort.  Pull the data from the column,
and have the program sort it as you want.If you are looking at the
column in EM then it will sort according to how the database sees it,
and that is the way the text will be sorted.

-- 
Mark Rider
http://commonsensesecurity.info


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 29 23:37:05 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:37:05 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
References: <BAY1-F16GiAw8HQEUEi00021171@hotmail.com>
	<a74f317804102918371b955449@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41831A71.90100@shaw.ca>

I am willing to be corrected about this but you can use this method to 
hash the index field
and change the ascii collating sequence.

 The easy way <grin> to handle this is to use a hash function that creates
a new index field that is a hash of the alphnumeric characters that
appears as a double or series of fields converted to doubles. This method
of hashing is called Base 37 Hash. I have misplaced my written
documentation on this. On a Zip drive somewhere. Numerical Methods text
book might have documentation.

I wrote this originally to sort on a field that was old Radio Call Sign
numbers that looked like 2AAW32 2ABW320 2AaW3223 etc.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
Const hashFactor As Integer = 37
Const hashLength As Integer = 9

Function HashString(strHash As String) As Double
' Create Hash string for indexing using
'Base 37 Hash Value
' Convert
' spaces punctuation odd chars = 0
' numeric = 0 - 9                1-10
' alpha chars a-z A-Z            11-37
' only use lower case
'such that string "Ab-12" =
'      A           b          -          1          2
'  (11*37^4) + (12*37^3) + (0*37^2) + (2*37^1) + (3*37^0)
'The Hash Length is 9 so it fits a double without precision loss

Dim iStrLen As Integer
Dim decAsc As Double
Dim i As Integer
Dim strPad As Integer
Dim strToHash As String
HashString = 0

' convert to all lower case
strToHash = UCase(strHash)
iStrLen = Len(strToHash)

'pad out string to 9 chars with blanks
If iStrLen < hashLength Then
 For strPad = (iStrLen + 1) To hashLength
    strToHash = strToHash & " "
 Next
Else
' or just grab first nine chars of string
   If iStrLen > hashLength Then
     strToHash = Left(strToHash, hashLength)
   End If
End If

For i = 1 To hashLength
  decAsc = Asc(Right(strToHash, i))
  'convert all odd Ascii character values and punctuation to 0
  If (decAsc < 48) Or (decAsc >= 58) And (decAsc <= 64) _
     Or (decAsc > 91) Then
    decAsc = 0
  Else
     'numbers
    If (decAsc >= 48) And (decAsc <= 57) Then
       decAsc = decAsc - 47
     Else
     'letters
      If (decAsc >= 65) And (decAsc <= 91) Then
         decAsc = decAsc - 54
         ' 54 not 64 as want to start "A" as 11
        End If
     End If
  End If

  HashString = HashString + (decAsc * hashFactor ^ (i - 1))
Next

End Function

OK now how to call this and use it
 Assume you have a table named [legalnumbering] and two  fields
one called [LegalNumber] containing your 1.1, 1.0.1 numbers; the other
field that you have added as a Double called [HashTitle1]. This will read
your 1.0.1 numbered field and create a hash number in the new double field.
Then just run this routine below and then a query sorting on the hash field
in the table and displaying your legal number field in correct order.


Function HashUpdateHierarchLegalNumber()
'Update Method Example
'This example demonstrates the Update method in conjunction with Edit
method. Updates the hash field from original index field in the original
table.


    Dim dbs As Database
    Dim rst As Recordset
    Dim String1 As String
    Dim String2 As String
   ' Set dbs = OpenDatabase("c:\access2\hashing\HashStringA.mdb")
    Set dbs = CurrentDb()
    Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("LegalNumbering")

    With rst
      Do While Not .EOF
      .Edit
       String1 = Left(![LegalNumber], 9)
         'String2 = Mid(![TubeNumbers], 10, 9)'chunk out further
         'String2 = Right(![TubeNumbers], 9) 'if number longer than 9 digits
       !HashTitle1 = HashString(String1)
         '!HashTitle2 = HashString(String2)

      .Update
      .MoveNext
      Loop
    End With
    rst.Close
    dbs.Close

End Function

 Not sure but may have stolen this code from part of an article in 1998
Office Access VB mag article by Jim Inscore on Documentation Sets
www.advisor.com

 


Mark Rider wrote:

>On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:35:23 +0000, Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hello:
>>
>>I have a table that contains one column with the following six values:
>>
>>a1
>>a2
>>a21
>>a10x
>>a2a
>>a10
>>
>>Currently if that column is sorted, it is sorted this way:
>>
>>a1
>>a10
>>a10x
>>a2
>>a21
>>a2a
>>
>>But I want it to be sorted this way:
>>
>>a1
>>a2
>>a2a
>>a10
>>a10x
>>a21
>>    
>>
>
>What are you using to view the sorted column? That will be the best
>thing to use to figure out the sort.  Pull the data from the column,
>and have the program sort it as you want.If you are looking at the
>column in EM then it will sort according to how the database sees it,
>and that is the way the text will be sorted.
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 30 04:40:21 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:40:21 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
Message-ID: <BAY1-F42f1QF1ZyIYvm000405e0@hotmail.com>

Hi Marty:

Thanks for your input.  I would like to keep the solution in TSQL.  I 
glanced over the code posted below and I think that it would not give me the 
sorting solution because a2a would not come before a10 and a21 would not go 
after a10x (this is the case because "numeric" comes before "alpha", as 
defined in the very beginning of the posted code).  It is interesting 
though...

Billy


>From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:37:05 -0700
>
>I am willing to be corrected about this but you can use this method to hash 
>the index field
>and change the ascii collating sequence.
>
>The easy way <grin> to handle this is to use a hash function that creates
>a new index field that is a hash of the alphnumeric characters that
>appears as a double or series of fields converted to doubles. This method
>of hashing is called Base 37 Hash. I have misplaced my written
>documentation on this. On a Zip drive somewhere. Numerical Methods text
>book might have documentation.
>
>I wrote this originally to sort on a field that was old Radio Call Sign
>numbers that looked like 2AAW32 2ABW320 2AaW3223 etc.
>
>Option Compare Database
>Option Explicit
>Const hashFactor As Integer = 37
>Const hashLength As Integer = 9
>
>Function HashString(strHash As String) As Double
>' Create Hash string for indexing using
>'Base 37 Hash Value
>' Convert
>' spaces punctuation odd chars = 0
>' numeric = 0 - 9                1-10
>' alpha chars a-z A-Z            11-37
>' only use lower case
>'such that string "Ab-12" =
>'      A           b          -          1          2
>'  (11*37^4) + (12*37^3) + (0*37^2) + (2*37^1) + (3*37^0)
>'The Hash Length is 9 so it fits a double without precision loss
>
>Dim iStrLen As Integer
>Dim decAsc As Double
>Dim i As Integer
>Dim strPad As Integer
>Dim strToHash As String
>HashString = 0
>
>' convert to all lower case
>strToHash = UCase(strHash)
>iStrLen = Len(strToHash)
>
>'pad out string to 9 chars with blanks
>If iStrLen < hashLength Then
>For strPad = (iStrLen + 1) To hashLength
>    strToHash = strToHash & " "
>Next
>Else
>' or just grab first nine chars of string
>   If iStrLen > hashLength Then
>     strToHash = Left(strToHash, hashLength)
>   End If
>End If
>
>For i = 1 To hashLength
>  decAsc = Asc(Right(strToHash, i))
>  'convert all odd Ascii character values and punctuation to 0
>  If (decAsc < 48) Or (decAsc >= 58) And (decAsc <= 64) _
>     Or (decAsc > 91) Then
>    decAsc = 0
>  Else
>     'numbers
>    If (decAsc >= 48) And (decAsc <= 57) Then
>       decAsc = decAsc - 47
>     Else
>     'letters
>      If (decAsc >= 65) And (decAsc <= 91) Then
>         decAsc = decAsc - 54
>         ' 54 not 64 as want to start "A" as 11
>        End If
>     End If
>  End If
>
>  HashString = HashString + (decAsc * hashFactor ^ (i - 1))
>Next
>
>End Function
>
>OK now how to call this and use it
>Assume you have a table named [legalnumbering] and two  fields
>one called [LegalNumber] containing your 1.1, 1.0.1 numbers; the other
>field that you have added as a Double called [HashTitle1]. This will read
>your 1.0.1 numbered field and create a hash number in the new double field.
>Then just run this routine below and then a query sorting on the hash field
>in the table and displaying your legal number field in correct order.
>
>
>Function HashUpdateHierarchLegalNumber()
>'Update Method Example
>'This example demonstrates the Update method in conjunction with Edit
>method. Updates the hash field from original index field in the original
>table.
>
>
>    Dim dbs As Database
>    Dim rst As Recordset
>    Dim String1 As String
>    Dim String2 As String
>   ' Set dbs = OpenDatabase("c:\access2\hashing\HashStringA.mdb")
>    Set dbs = CurrentDb()
>    Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("LegalNumbering")
>
>    With rst
>      Do While Not .EOF
>      .Edit
>       String1 = Left(![LegalNumber], 9)
>         'String2 = Mid(![TubeNumbers], 10, 9)'chunk out further
>         'String2 = Right(![TubeNumbers], 9) 'if number longer than 9 
>digits
>       !HashTitle1 = HashString(String1)
>         '!HashTitle2 = HashString(String2)
>
>      .Update
>      .MoveNext
>      Loop
>    End With
>    rst.Close
>    dbs.Close
>
>End Function
>
>Not sure but may have stolen this code from part of an article in 1998
>Office Access VB mag article by Jim Inscore on Documentation Sets
>www.advisor.com
>
>
>
>
>Mark Rider wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:35:23 +0000, Billy Pang <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com> 
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello:
>>>
>>>I have a table that contains one column with the following six values:
>>>
>>>a1
>>>a2
>>>a21
>>>a10x
>>>a2a
>>>a10
>>>
>>>Currently if that column is sorted, it is sorted this way:
>>>
>>>a1
>>>a10
>>>a10x
>>>a2
>>>a21
>>>a2a
>>>
>>>But I want it to be sorted this way:
>>>
>>>a1
>>>a2
>>>a2a
>>>a10
>>>a10x
>>>a21
>>>
>>>
>>
>>What are you using to view the sorted column? That will be the best
>>thing to use to figure out the sort.  Pull the data from the column,
>>and have the program sort it as you want.If you are looking at the
>>column in EM then it will sort according to how the database sees it,
>>and that is the way the text will be sorted.
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 30 04:55:20 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:55:20 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
Message-ID: <BAY1-F220ypmWKQC26o00028d38@hotmail.com>

Hi Mark:

I am using SQL Query Analyzer to view the sorted column.  Usually I get the 
db to sort the results before handing it over to the application program 
because the db can do a much better job on sorting than the application (in 
99.99999% of the case).  However, the application program is superior to the 
db in terms of presenting the data; if that is what you are getting at, then 
I see your point but it would not exactly suit the current need.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but if I view any column of a table from EM 
without explicitly sorting it (ie. the ORDER BY clause), there is no solid 
guarantee that the records will be displayed in the same order the next time 
the table is queried again.

Billy

>From: Mark Rider <ridermark at gmail.com>
>
>What are you using to view the sorted column? That will be the best
>thing to use to figure out the sort.  Pull the data from the column,
>and have the program sort it as you want.If you are looking at the
>column in EM then it will sort according to how the database sees it,
>and that is the way the text will be sorted.
>
>--
>Mark Rider
>http://commonsensesecurity.info
>_______________________________________________
>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>




From mmaddison at optusnet.com.au  Sat Oct 30 07:24:07 2004
From: mmaddison at optusnet.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:24:07 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F220ypmWKQC26o00028d38@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <JIELLFDJKMAGJJMDIMIIIEOPBMAB.mmaddison@optusnet.com.au>

I don't have BOL at home but I think if the table has a clustered index then
that is how it is returned without an order by.  IIRC you can guarentee it.
A heap is a different story as the actual table has no order.

regards

Michael M


Hi Mark:

I am using SQL Query Analyzer to view the sorted column.  Usually I get the
db to sort the results before handing it over to the application program
because the db can do a much better job on sorting than the application (in
99.99999% of the case).  However, the application program is superior to the
db in terms of presenting the data; if that is what you are getting at, then
I see your point but it would not exactly suit the current need.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but if I view any column of a table from EM
without explicitly sorting it (ie. the ORDER BY clause), there is no solid
guarantee that the records will be displayed in the same order the next time
the table is queried again.

Billy

>From: Mark Rider <ridermark at gmail.com>
>
>What are you using to view the sorted column? That will be the best
>thing to use to figure out the sort.  Pull the data from the column,
>and have the program sort it as you want.If you are looking at the
>column in EM then it will sort according to how the database sees it,
>and that is the way the text will be sorted.
>
>--
>Mark Rider
>http://commonsensesecurity.info
>_______________________________________________
>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


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From HARVEYF1 at WESTAT.com  Sun Oct 31 13:06:44 2004
From: HARVEYF1 at WESTAT.com (Francis Harvey)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:06:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
Message-ID: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0481EB25@remail2.westat.com>

Billy,

Perhaps this code will give you some ideas to build on as I imagine
your problem is more complex than your example suggests:

select the_value
from #the_table
order by
    case 
        when ascii(right(the_value,1)) between 48 and 57
            then cast(substring(the_value,2,len(the_value) - 1) as int)
        else cast(substring(the_value,2,len(the_value) - 2) as int)
    end, the_value

Francis R Harvey III
WB 303, (301)294-3952
harveyf1 at westat.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Billy Pang
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:35 PM
> To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
> 
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I have a table that contains one column with the following six values:
> 
> a1
> a2
> a21
> a10x
> a2a
> a10
> 
> Currently if that column is sorted, it is sorted this way:
> 
> a1
> a10
> a10x
> a2
> a21
> a2a
> 
> But I want it to be sorted this way:
> 
> a1
> a2
> a2a
> a10
> a10x
> a21
> 
> (note: a2a comes before a10, a21 goes after a10x, etc...ergo, 
> letters come 
> before numbers, contrary to their ascii values)
> 
> Is it possible or is it a pipe dream?  Below is copy of code.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Billy
> 
> /* cut here */
> use tempdb
> create table #the_table(the_value varchar(10));
> insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a1');
> insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a2');
> insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a21');
> insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a10x');
> insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a2a');
> insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a10');
> select * from #the_table order by the_value
> drop table #the_table;
> /* cut here */


From artful at rogers.com  Sun Oct 31 14:18:59 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:18:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
In-Reply-To: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0481EB25@remail2.westat.com>
References: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0481EB25@remail2.westat.com>
Message-ID: <418548B3.2070807@rogers.com>

-----Original Message-----

>>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
>>Of Billy Pang
>>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:35 PM
>>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
>>
>>
>>Hello:
>>
>>I have a table that contains one column with the following six values:
>>
>>a1
>>a2
>>a21
>>a10x
>>a2a
>>a10
>>
>>Currently if that column is sorted, it is sorted this way:
>>
>>a1
>>a10
>>a10x
>>a2
>>a21
>>a2a
>>
>>But I want it to be sorted this way:
>>
>>a1
>>a2
>>a2a
>>a10
>>a10x
>>a21
>>
>>(note: a2a comes before a10, a21 goes after a10x, etc...ergo, 
>>letters come 
>>before numbers, contrary to their ascii values)
>>
>>Is it possible or is it a pipe dream?  Below is copy of code.
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Billy
>>
>>    
>>
I have played with this for a while. I kept thinking that this should 
not be difficult, but either I'm having a senior Sunday or it simply is 
difficult. Also, I finally realized that I should look at your sample 
data more than your description of the rules, since the rules are 
oversimplified. I am having trouble deciding what your actual rules are, 
but clearly your description is insufficient... at least for this old 
coder. If letters come before numbers, why isn't a10x ahead of a10? It's 
looking to me as if your actual rules are:
1. ignore the first letter
2. grab the numeric value following the first letter as your first sort 
criterion
3. anything following that numeric value is the second sort order (i.e. 
10, 10x, 10y)

Here, I believe, is your answer: create the following function (which is 
not optimized, it's written in my usual style with lots of variables so 
I can check everything as I go) first:

<code>
ALTER FUNCTION dbo.InnerNumeric_fn
(
    @Source Varchar(20) = 'a20x'
)
RETURNS integer
AS
    BEGIN
        declare @Result varchar(10)
        declare @i int
        declare @j int
        declare @c char(1)
        declare @flag int
        set @j = len(@Source)
        set @i = 2
        set @Result = ''
        while @i <= @j
            begin
            set @c = substring(@Source, at i,1)
            set @flag = isnumeric(@c)
            if (@flag = 1)
                begin
                    set @Result = @Result + @c
                    set @i = @i+1
                end
            else
                break
            end
   
        RETURN CAST(@Result AS INT)
    END
</code>

Use it in your query as follows:

<code>
select *,dbo.innernumeric_fn(the_value) from the_table
order by dbo.innernumeric_fn(the_value)
</code>

This prints the following set, which appears to be what you want:

a1    1
a2    2
a2a    2
a10    10
a10x    10
a21    21

HTH,
Arthur

P.S.
I'll be using this in one of my forthcoming SQL Tips columns. I might as 
well get somebody to pay me for writing it. LOL.



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Oct 31 14:44:53 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:44:53 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
In-Reply-To: <418548B3.2070807@rogers.com>
References: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0481EB25@remail2.westat.com>
	<418548B3.2070807@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <41854EC5.9050402@rogers.com>

I should have added to the preceding message that all this is necessary 
only if the 6 values orginally supplied were just a sample. If they are 
actually all the values that the column can contain, it's much simpler 
just to create a new two-column table containing the values and their 
desired order, expressed as an int. Then you could join said table to 
the table of interest and order by the new table's second column.

The code I provided in the previous message can handle any number of 
digits and any number of trailing characters.

Arthur


From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 31 18:03:55 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:03:55 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
Message-ID: <BAY1-F40U25JJzxvoEa0001e52c@hotmail.com>

Hi Arthur:

Thanks for your input.  During the time of the original post, I wasn't 
really to sure what all the rules were.  But I knew one sorting rule for 
certain, which was "sort letters before numbers".

a10x does not come ahead of a10.  Not too sure how to articulate it 
accurately; the closest I can explain it is "the characters are read from 
left to right".  If I create two text files in my OS (I am using win2k) 
called a10.txt and a10x.txt and sort the files in ascending order, a10.txt 
is shown first.  I struggled with this rule because in my mind I kept 
thinking that "no character" takes greater precedence than "the presence of 
a character".

Thanks for your solution but it is not what I am looking for.  In a 
nutshell, the InnerNumeric_fn function obtains the first complete number in 
a string?  I like the idea of using a function to manufacture a sorting key. 
  Your code uses little cpu cycles and reads.  I can say that because I 
tried re-writing your function without using a "while" condition and 
compared the two and this is what I got.

create FUNCTION dbo.InnerNumeric_fn_1(@Source Varchar(10)) RETURNS INT
AS
   BEGIN
       declare @Result varchar(9)
         declare @tempTable TABLE(THE_ID TINYINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY 
IDENTITY(1,1), THE_VALUE CHAR(1))
         INSERT INTO @tempTable VALUES('A');
         INSERT INTO @tempTable VALUES('A');
         INSERT INTO @tempTable SELECT i.the_value from @tempTable i, 
@tempTable ii, @tempTable iii
         SELECT @Result = ISNULL(@Result,'') +  CASE WHEN THE_ID > 1 AND 
isnumeric(substring(@Source,THE_ID,1)) = 1 THEN substring(@Source,THE_ID,1) 
ELSE '' END FROM @tempTable;
         RETURN CAST(@Result AS INT)
   END
go

However, this solution is great for the sample values I posted but it is not 
exactly what I am looking for because even though it can handle any number 
of digits, I am unable to use it as a sorting solution since it cannot 
handle two sets of digits.  For example:

a45x1x
a45xax
a45x2x

Sincerely,

Billy

>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
>Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:44:53 -0500
>
>I should have added to the preceding message that all this is necessary 
>only if the 6 values orginally supplied were just a sample. If they are 
>actually all the values that the column can contain, it's much simpler just 
>to create a new two-column table containing the values and their desired 
>order, expressed as an int. Then you could join said table to the table of 
>interest and order by the new table's second column.
>
>The code I provided in the previous message can handle any number of digits 
>and any number of trailing characters.
>
>Arthur
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 31 18:15:35 2004
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:15:35 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
Message-ID: <BAY1-F219Ee4zadTMVw000304f3@hotmail.com>

Hi Francis:

Yes, my problem is a little bit more complex than my example suggests :)  
Your solution is perfect for the sample data I provided but I can't use it 
as a sorting solution since it is only tailored to support the sample data. 
For example, if I were to introduce the value "a45x1x" then I get an error.

However, one part of the solution I finding intriguing is the 
"ascii(right(the_value,1)) between 48 and 57" part because it allows the 
SELECTstatement to identify that it is a number.  So if a character in the 
string is a number, then perhaps something can be done to decrease the 
"sorting value" of the number so that letters come first.

Sincerely,
Billy


>From: Francis Harvey <HARVEYF1 at westat.com>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: "'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'" 
><dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
>Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:06:44 -0500
>
>Billy,
>
>Perhaps this code will give you some ideas to build on as I imagine
>your problem is more complex than your example suggests:
>
>select the_value
>from #the_table
>order by
>     case
>         when ascii(right(the_value,1)) between 48 and 57
>             then cast(substring(the_value,2,len(the_value) - 1) as int)
>         else cast(substring(the_value,2,len(the_value) - 2) as int)
>     end, the_value
>
>Francis R Harvey III
>WB 303, (301)294-3952
>harveyf1 at westat.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
> > Of Billy Pang
> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:35 PM
> > To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
> >
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I have a table that contains one column with the following six values:
> >
> > a1
> > a2
> > a21
> > a10x
> > a2a
> > a10
> >
> > Currently if that column is sorted, it is sorted this way:
> >
> > a1
> > a10
> > a10x
> > a2
> > a21
> > a2a
> >
> > But I want it to be sorted this way:
> >
> > a1
> > a2
> > a2a
> > a10
> > a10x
> > a21
> >
> > (note: a2a comes before a10, a21 goes after a10x, etc...ergo,
> > letters come
> > before numbers, contrary to their ascii values)
> >
> > Is it possible or is it a pipe dream?  Below is copy of code.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Billy
> >
> > /* cut here */
> > use tempdb
> > create table #the_table(the_value varchar(10));
> > insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a1');
> > insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a2');
> > insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a21');
> > insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a10x');
> > insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a2a');
> > insert into #the_table(the_value) values('a10');
> > select * from #the_table order by the_value
> > drop table #the_table;
> > /* cut here */
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Oct 31 22:08:02 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:08:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F40U25JJzxvoEa0001e52c@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY1-F40U25JJzxvoEa0001e52c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <4185B6A2.1030508@rogers.com>

Billy Pang wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Thanks for your input.  During the time of the original post, I wasn't 
> really to sure what all the rules were.  But I knew one sorting rule 
> for certain, which was "sort letters before numbers".
>
> a10x does not come ahead of a10.  Not too sure how to articulate it 
> accurately; the closest I can explain it is "the characters are read 
> from left to right".  If I create two text files in my OS (I am using 
> win2k) called a10.txt and a10x.txt and sort the files in ascending 
> order, a10.txt is shown first.  I struggled with this rule because in 
> my mind I kept thinking that "no character" takes greater precedence 
> than "the presence of a character".
>
> Thanks for your solution but it is not what I am looking for.  In a 
> nutshell, the InnerNumeric_fn function obtains the first complete 
> number in a string?  I like the idea of using a function to 
> manufacture a sorting key.  Your code uses little cpu cycles and 
> reads.  I can say that because I tried re-writing your function 
> without using a "while" condition and compared the two and this is 
> what I got.
>
> create FUNCTION dbo.InnerNumeric_fn_1(@Source Varchar(10)) RETURNS INT
> AS
>   BEGIN
>       declare @Result varchar(9)
>         declare @tempTable TABLE(THE_ID TINYINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY 
> IDENTITY(1,1), THE_VALUE CHAR(1))
>         INSERT INTO @tempTable VALUES('A');
>         INSERT INTO @tempTable VALUES('A');
>         INSERT INTO @tempTable SELECT i.the_value from @tempTable i, 
> @tempTable ii, @tempTable iii
>         SELECT @Result = ISNULL(@Result,'') +  CASE WHEN THE_ID > 1 
> AND isnumeric(substring(@Source,THE_ID,1)) = 1 THEN 
> substring(@Source,THE_ID,1) ELSE '' END FROM @tempTable;
>         RETURN CAST(@Result AS INT)
>   END
> go
>
> However, this solution is great for the sample values I posted but it 
> is not exactly what I am looking for because even though it can handle 
> any number of digits, I am unable to use it as a sorting solution 
> since it cannot handle two sets of digits.  For example:
>
> a45x1x
> a45xax
> a45x2x
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Billy

Fine! Fine! Fine! In future, I suggest that you provide your third-world 
developers with an adequeate data set. LOL. I shall go back to the salt 
mines and toil endlessly until I have a solution. But you still haven't 
made the rules quite clear, if I may say so, Sir.

Given strings x##x#x and xx###xx#xx, please define the desired sort order.

I think I can do this by sequential calls to the func I wrote, but I 
could be wrong. I need more evidence to determine how to revise my 
inadequate contribution thus far.

A.