From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Mon Aug  1 02:36:01 2005
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:06:01 +0930
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD22122B9@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

 
Hey all.

I need to output a query in a given XML format and I figure I'd have a
stab using the FOR XML clause of SQL 2000 first rather than in code.

I've worked out the basics using the FOR XML EXPLICIT clause and am able
to output a structure such as this:

<state id="SA">
	<property id="5">
		<name>Prop1</name>
		<area>35</area>
	</property>
	<property id="10">
		<name>Prop2</name>
		<area>55</area>
	</property>
</state>
<state id="NSW">
	<property id="24">
	....
</state>


However I haven't worked out how to add 'empty' surrounding tags (I
think they may be called 'associations' in XML speak), so the schema
would become:

(note the addition of the <states> and <properties> tags)

<states>
	<state id="SA">
		<properties>
			<property id="5">
				<name>Prop1</name>
				<area>35</area>
			</property>
			<property id="10">
				<name>Prop2</name>
				<area>55</area>
			</property>
		</properties>	
	</state>
	<state id="NSW">
		<properties>
			<property id="24">
			....
		</properties>
	</state>
</states>

(apologies if the formatting doesn't stick)

Any ideas? Anyone familiar with using XML in SS?

For reference, my actual current query is below - I figured the above
example was easier to use.

SELECT  
	1             		as Tag, 
	NULL          		as Parent,
	c.textstate		as [state!1!idstate],
	null			as [property!2!name!element],
	null			as [property!2!areaHA!element],
	null			as [property!2!dateGranted!element],
	null	 		as
[property!2!titleHoldingBody!element],
	null 			as [property!2!idproperty]
FROM         
	dbo.tblStates c 
Where 
	c.IDState<>0
union all
SELECT  
	2,             		 
	1,          		
	b.textstate,
	a.ShortLandName,		
	a.area,			
	a.GrantDate,		
	a.THBName,
	a.IDProperty
FROM         
	dbo.tblStates b, dbo.vw_LandPurchases_WebsiteExport_Prop a
where 
	a.IDState = b.IDState
Order By
	[state!1!idstate],[property!2!idproperty]
for xml explicit

Cheers,
Andrew


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From Mark.Whittinghill at protective.com  Mon Aug  1 10:02:24 2005
From: Mark.Whittinghill at protective.com (Mark.Whittinghill at protective.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:02:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Book recommendations
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F230675AE5CA87F2B012688E5CF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <OF2031F5CB.5E926D8E-ON86257050.0052514B-86257050.00529E01@protective.com>

Thanks for the recommendations. 

Here's a site that our network admin uses for online learning. 

www.mindleaders.com

It seems to be focused on certifications, but I'll toss it out in case 
someone finds it useful.

Mark


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Aug  1 11:22:22 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:22:22 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B64@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I don't see what purpose is served by the states and properties
entities.  Why do you need them at all?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Haslett, Andrew [mailto:andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au] 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:36 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT


 
Hey all.

I need to output a query in a given XML format and I figure I'd have a
stab using the FOR XML clause of SQL 2000 first rather than in code.

I've worked out the basics using the FOR XML EXPLICIT clause and am able
to output a structure such as this:

<state id="SA">
	<property id="5">
		<name>Prop1</name>
		<area>35</area>
	</property>
	<property id="10">
		<name>Prop2</name>
		<area>55</area>
	</property>
</state>
<state id="NSW">
	<property id="24">
	....
</state>


However I haven't worked out how to add 'empty' surrounding tags (I
think they may be called 'associations' in XML speak), so the schema
would become:

(note the addition of the <states> and <properties> tags)

<states>
	<state id="SA">
		<properties>
			<property id="5">
				<name>Prop1</name>
				<area>35</area>
			</property>
			<property id="10">
				<name>Prop2</name>
				<area>55</area>
			</property>
		</properties>	
	</state>
	<state id="NSW">
		<properties>
			<property id="24">
			....
		</properties>
	</state>
</states>

(apologies if the formatting doesn't stick)

Any ideas? Anyone familiar with using XML in SS?

For reference, my actual current query is below - I figured the above
example was easier to use.

SELECT  
	1             		as Tag, 
	NULL          		as Parent,
	c.textstate		as [state!1!idstate],
	null			as [property!2!name!element],
	null			as [property!2!areaHA!element],
	null			as [property!2!dateGranted!element],
	null	 		as
[property!2!titleHoldingBody!element],
	null 			as [property!2!idproperty]
FROM         
	dbo.tblStates c 
Where 
	c.IDState<>0
union all
SELECT  
	2,             		 
	1,          		
	b.textstate,
	a.ShortLandName,		
	a.area,			
	a.GrantDate,		
	a.THBName,
	a.IDProperty
FROM         
	dbo.tblStates b, dbo.vw_LandPurchases_WebsiteExport_Prop a where

	a.IDState = b.IDState
Order By
	[state!1!idstate],[property!2!idproperty]
for xml explicit

Cheers,
Andrew


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Aug  1 16:39:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:39:00 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] 2005 -- the demise of system tables
Message-ID: <20050801214008.OEOC19628.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Is this going to matter to any of you?
 
Susan H. 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug  1 17:13:21 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:13:21 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] 2005 -- the demise of system tables
In-Reply-To: <20050801214008.OEOC19628.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <001101c596e6$3d5b3840$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL, only if you want to be able to populate combos with lists of forms,
reports etc.  All that can be done quite easily using data in one of the
system tables.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 5:39 PM
To: SQLList
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] 2005 -- the demise of system tables


Is this going to matter to any of you?
 
Susan H. 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Aug  1 17:22:43 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 08:22:43 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] 2005 -- the demise of system tables
In-Reply-To: <001101c596e6$3d5b3840$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <20050801214008.OEOC19628.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <42EF2D53.17253.9B19595@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 1 Aug 2005 at 18:13, John W. Colby wrote:

> LOL, only if you want to be able to populate combos with lists of forms,
> reports etc.  All that can be done quite easily using data in one of the
> system tables.
> 

List of forms,reports from SQL-Server System tables?



-- 
Stuart




From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  1 18:02:47 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:02:47 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] 2005 -- the demise of system tables
In-Reply-To: <20050801214008.OEOC19628.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F1020AD60499E5FF5CBFFEAE5C30@phx.gbl>

I haven't used ss 2005 yet but what do you mean "demise" of system tables?  
Can no longer query them or can no longer edit them directly?

In ss2k, I query the system tables occasionally but never ever modify them 
directly (with the exception of the dtproperties table but not sure if the 
dtproperties table really qualifies as a system table).  If I want 
information about objects, I first query the information-schema views; 
anything I can't get from those views I get it myself by querying the system 
tables directly.

Billy


>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: "SQLList" <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] 2005 -- the demise of system tables
>Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:39:00 -0400
>
>Is this going to matter to any of you?
>
>Susan H.
>
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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Mon Aug  1 18:33:11 2005
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:03:11 +0930
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD22122BC@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

Data needs to go to an external party who have existing automated
process requiring data in this format. 

I'm currently in contact with them to see if this can be changed.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 1:52 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT

I don't see what purpose is served by the states and properties
entities.  Why do you need them at all?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Haslett, Andrew [mailto:andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au]
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:36 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT


 
Hey all.

I need to output a query in a given XML format and I figure I'd have a
stab using the FOR XML clause of SQL 2000 first rather than in code.

I've worked out the basics using the FOR XML EXPLICIT clause and am able
to output a structure such as this:

<state id="SA">
	<property id="5">
		<name>Prop1</name>
		<area>35</area>
	</property>
	<property id="10">
		<name>Prop2</name>
		<area>55</area>
	</property>
</state>
<state id="NSW">
	<property id="24">
	....
</state>


However I haven't worked out how to add 'empty' surrounding tags (I
think they may be called 'associations' in XML speak), so the schema
would become:

(note the addition of the <states> and <properties> tags)

<states>
	<state id="SA">
		<properties>
			<property id="5">
				<name>Prop1</name>
				<area>35</area>
			</property>
			<property id="10">
				<name>Prop2</name>
				<area>55</area>
			</property>
		</properties>	
	</state>
	<state id="NSW">
		<properties>
			<property id="24">
			....
		</properties>
	</state>
</states>

(apologies if the formatting doesn't stick)

Any ideas? Anyone familiar with using XML in SS?

For reference, my actual current query is below - I figured the above
example was easier to use.

SELECT  
	1             		as Tag, 
	NULL          		as Parent,
	c.textstate		as [state!1!idstate],
	null			as [property!2!name!element],
	null			as [property!2!areaHA!element],
	null			as [property!2!dateGranted!element],
	null	 		as
[property!2!titleHoldingBody!element],
	null 			as [property!2!idproperty]
FROM         
	dbo.tblStates c 
Where 
	c.IDState<>0
union all
SELECT  
	2,             		 
	1,          		
	b.textstate,
	a.ShortLandName,		
	a.area,			
	a.GrantDate,		
	a.THBName,
	a.IDProperty
FROM         
	dbo.tblStates b, dbo.vw_LandPurchases_WebsiteExport_Prop a where

	a.IDState = b.IDState
Order By
	[state!1!idstate],[property!2!idproperty]
for xml explicit

Cheers,
Andrew


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug  1 18:36:59 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:36:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] 2005 -- the demise of system tables
In-Reply-To: <42EF2D53.17253.9B19595@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001401c596f1$e9318ab0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Oooops sorry, I thought this was in the AccessD forum.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 6:23 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] 2005 -- the demise of system tables


On 1 Aug 2005 at 18:13, John W. Colby wrote:

> LOL, only if you want to be able to populate combos with lists of 
> forms, reports etc.  All that can be done quite easily using data in 
> one of the system tables.
> 

List of forms,reports from SQL-Server System tables?



-- 
Stuart


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Aug  1 20:19:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 21:19:52 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] 2005 -- the demise of system tables
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F1020AD60499E5FF5CBFFEAE5C30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050802011952.KECG12809.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Whatever works in 2000 should work in 2005, but they've changed the internal
structure -- that may not be true in the next upgrade. It's one of those
"...start doing it the new way now because later..." kind of deals I think. 

Susan H. 

I haven't used ss 2005 yet but what do you mean "demise" of system tables?  
Can no longer query them or can no longer edit them directly?

In ss2k, I query the system tables occasionally but never ever modify them
directly (with the exception of the dtproperties table but not sure if the
dtproperties table really qualifies as a system table).  If I want
information about objects, I first query the information-schema views;
anything I can't get from those views I get it myself by querying the system
tables directly.




From fhtapia at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 22:32:41 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 20:32:41 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Re: [dba-OT] xp_sqlagent_proxy_account
In-Reply-To: <000501c59711$ba6cd520$6101a8c0@jisshowsbs.local>
References: <b874372a0508011925783a1460@mail.gmail.com>
	<000501c59711$ba6cd520$6101a8c0@jisshowsbs.local>
Message-ID: <b874372a05080120321058e9eb@mail.gmail.com>

damn... that's the last time I go drinking and emailing ;-) well I checked 
the owner of both services as I suspected that first, they are both running 
on system admin accounts, and the agent proxy is set to a domain user. There 
seems to be some kind of mis-configuration that I missed when we installed 
this beast :S

On 8/1/05, William Hindman <wdhindman at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> Francisco
> 
> ...you might do better on the dba sql server list ...but for what its 
> worth,
> take a look at who the owner is on your new server and what the group
> policies are ...I would tend to suspect the problem is in the server os
> configuration rather than the ss based upon what you described.
> 
> William
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Francisco Tapia" <fhtapia at gmail.com>
> To: <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "SQL Server 2k List"
> <sql2k at ls.datareturn.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:25 PM
> Subject: [dba-OT] xp_sqlagent_proxy_account
> 
> 
> I seem to be having a bit of trouble. my sql server crashed on thursday 
> and
> we were able to migrate the data over to a new server, one thing that 
> didn't
> come over well (i haven't been able to reproduce) is the call to the
> xp_cmdshell. I ran the xp_sqlagent_proxy_account sproc pointing to a valid
> nt domain user, our companies sqlcmd user. however even after I've applied
> this user and double checked that the option for only sysadmins can run
> xp_cmdshell is off, i keep getting the following error for my non-sysadmin
> users:
> Server: Msg 229, Level 14, State 5, Procedure xp_cmdshell, Line 2
> EXECUTE permission denied on object 'xp_cmdshell', database 'master', 
> owner
> 'dbo'.
> 
> I cannot do a "dir" or anything, which that part sounds fine, I only need 
> to
> be able to execute a particular command. Thanks for your help in advance.
> --
> -Francisco
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 12:28:26 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:28:26 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Re: xp_sqlagent_proxy_account
In-Reply-To: <LYRIS-9078501-1246507-2005.08.02-03.18.44--fhtapia#gmail.com@ls.sswug.org>
References: <LYRIS-8507114-1246463-2005.08.01-21.25.10--ojngo#rac4sql.net@ls.sswug.org>
	<LYRIS-9078501-1246507-2005.08.02-03.18.44--fhtapia#gmail.com@ls.sswug.org>
Message-ID: <b874372a0508021028712837c4@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, the system is Sql server 2000 SP4 on windows 2003.

I modified the sql agent proxy to be an administrator and it works fine. I 
can log into another pc w/ the sqlagentproxy domain user account and get 
access to the files I need. but if I switch the sql agent proxy to this 
account I receive an "access denied" for the files I want to run.




On 8/2/05, oj <ojngo at rac4sql.net> wrote:
> 
>  SP3 and above add a new flag. You want to set it accordingly for your 
> environment.
>  --restrict to admin only. 1=yes, 0=no 
> EXECUTE msdb..sp_set_sqlagent_properties @sysadmin_only = 0 
> go
>  Though, the error is pointing to something else. Try allow non-admin 
> users execute permission.
>  use master 
> grant execute on xp_cmdshell to public
>  -- 
> -oj 
> 
> 
>  
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* bounce-sql2k-8507114 at ls.sswug.org [mailto:
> bounce-sql2k-8507114 at ls.sswug.org] *On Behalf Of *Francisco Tapia
> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2005 7:25 PM
> *To:* SQL Server 2k List
> *Subject:* xp_sqlagent_proxy_account
> 
> I seem to be having a bit of trouble. my sql server crashed on thursday 
> and we were able to migrate the data over to a new server, one thing that 
> didn't come over well (i haven't been able to reproduce) is the call to the 
> xp_cmdshell. I ran the xp_sqlagent_proxy_account sproc pointing to a valid 
> nt domain user, our companies sqlcmd user. however even after I've applied 
> this user and double checked that the option for only sysadmins can run 
> xp_cmdshell is off, i keep getting the following error for my non-sysadmin 
> users:
> Server: Msg 229, Level 14, State 5, Procedure xp_cmdshell, Line 2
> EXECUTE permission denied on object 'xp_cmdshell', database 'master', 
> owner 'dbo'.
> 
> I cannot do a "dir" or anything, which that part sounds fine, I only need 
> to be able to execute a particular command. Thanks for your help in advance.
> -- 
> -Francisco
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From Paul.Hartland at orridge.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 05:32:13 2005
From: Paul.Hartland at orridge.co.uk (Paul Hartland)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:32:13 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Database Security
Message-ID: <14A7AB003EFD444BBB193A23128DA20E4A475A@AL-PRI.Aldridge.local>

 
To all,

I need to set up a database on SQL Server, which will only allow access
through specific logons (about 10) excluding the good old SA logon etc.
How would I go about doing this, as I can't seem to set it up at the
moment that only I have access to it.....

Thanks in advance for any help 


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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Wed Aug  3 09:28:37 2005
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 07:28:37 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Database Security
In-Reply-To: <14A7AB003EFD444BBB193A23128DA20E4A475A@AL-PRI.Aldridge.local>
Message-ID: <MDAEMON-F200508030728.AA2844638md50000036692@afsweb.com>

In Enterprise Manager you can set the db to single user only so that you
have exclusive access to it. 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:32 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server Database Security

 
To all,

I need to set up a database on SQL Server, which will only allow access
through specific logons (about 10) excluding the good old SA logon etc.
How would I go about doing this, as I can't seem to set it up at the moment
that only I have access to it.....

Thanks in advance for any help 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Aug  5 07:30:33 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:30:33 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Using a timestamp field
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0508021028712837c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0IKR00A1X1EW9T@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Has anyone had a reason to use the timestamp type fields and is there any
best way to seed those fields and best practices to use. 

TIA
Jim



From artful at rogers.com  Fri Aug  5 09:10:34 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:10:34 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Using a timestamp field
In-Reply-To: <0IKR00A1X1EW9T@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <200508051410.j75EAfR23084@databaseadvisors.com>

It depends on what you are after. The main thing about a timestamp is that
it is updated every time you update the row. This can be useful,
particularly in a replicated database.

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Sent: August 5, 2005 8:31 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Using a timestamp field

Hi All:

Has anyone had a reason to use the timestamp type fields and is there any
best way to seed those fields and best practices to use. 

TIA
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From Clay.Passick at minneapolis.edu  Thu Aug  4 14:13:11 2005
From: Clay.Passick at minneapolis.edu (Clay Passick)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:13:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Hardware Upgrade ?
Message-ID: <s2f22297.054@halley.mctc.mnscu.edu>

Hi to all
 
We are in the process of upgrading to a SAN.   As part of this our SQL
Server is going to new server hardware as well.  My question is about
the best way to migrate data.  I have always had the impression that you
had to back up inside SQL and then use the backup file (.bak) in SQL for
a restore rather than backing up the .mdf and .ldf files.   Part of this
SAN is software that is supposed to do a low level copy from current
volumes to new volumes.  Once all data is migrated the new server will
be named the same as the old server and given the same IP address.  
That should prevent applications from going fits, I hope.  Any
suggestions on the best route to take or things to watch out for.  
 
Clay


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Fri Aug  5 11:53:03 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 12:53:03 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Hardware Upgrade ?
In-Reply-To: <s2f22297.054@halley.mctc.mnscu.edu>
Message-ID: <000601c599de$26582ef0$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>

I recommend detaching your databases, moving their files to the new SAN
location, and then reattaching them.  That strategy worked extremely well
for us when we moved our data files out to our SAN.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.





From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 13:15:58 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:15:58 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Hardware Upgrade ?
In-Reply-To: <000601c599de$26582ef0$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>
References: <s2f22297.054@halley.mctc.mnscu.edu>
	<000601c599de$26582ef0$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>
Message-ID: <b874372a05080511156389654@mail.gmail.com>

We did it by taking the .bak file and restoring it in the new system. You'll 
need to fix the users either way.. 

EXEC sp_change_users_login 'Auto_Fix', 'SqluserID', NULL, 'PWD'


On 8/5/05, Mike & Doris Manning <mikedorism at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> I recommend detaching your databases, moving their files to the new SAN
> location, and then reattaching them. That strategy worked extremely well
> for us when we moved our data files out to our SAN.
> 
> Doris Manning
> Database Administrator
> Hargrove Inc.
> 
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Sat Aug  6 16:59:24 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 21:59:24 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] mushroom database (cross post db-ot/dba-SQLServer)
Message-ID: <BAY102-F22BC260E5CB46B327BFC5BE5C60@phx.gbl>

Hello:

Does anyone know where to download a copy of mushroom database that is 
referenced in Chapter 5 of the book "Data Mining with Microsoft SQL Server 
2000"?

I have visited the following locations but could not find it there:

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~mlearn/MLRepository.html
ftp://ftp.ics.uci.edu/pub/machine-learning-databases/mushroom

Thanks in advance,
Billy




From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Aug  9 08:47:36 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue,  9 Aug 2005 15:47:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Slightly OT - Reports Slow To Open VB6 SQL Server
Message-ID: <10480907.1123595256090.JavaMail.www@wwinf3203>

To all,
I have a VB application that over the last two days the majority of users have encountered dramatic page file size increases when opening a report, I use the same application and mine hardly moves....
Has anyone come across a similar problem to this, in the past and got any possible solutions...
Many thanks in advance for any help on this

Paul Hartland

From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Aug  9 13:55:27 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:55:27 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Slightly OT - Reports Slow To Open VB6 SQL Server
References: <10480907.1123595256090.JavaMail.www@wwinf3203>
Message-ID: <42F8FC1F.2030400@shaw.ca>

Are you running on a developer machine with a gig of RAM and all your 
users on 256 or 128 Meg machines.
Did some modify a login script that sets a low page file size.
Did someone recently install or upgrade a constantly running program 
like a virus checker or office workflow program.
Heck are people running 2 virus checkers at same time.
Here are some hints on page file sizing for people who do photo or sound 
editing with large page file requirements.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct03/articles/pcnotes.htm

paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

>To all,
>I have a VB application that over the last two days the majority of users have encountered dramatic page file size increases when opening a report, I use the same application and mine hardly moves....
>Has anyone come across a similar problem to this, in the past and got any possible solutions...
>Many thanks in advance for any help on this
>
>Paul Hartland
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From Paul.Hartland at orridge.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 08:46:59 2005
From: Paul.Hartland at orridge.co.uk (Paul Hartland)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:46:59 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Slightly OT - Reports Slow To Open VB6 SQL Server
Message-ID: <14A7AB003EFD444BBB193A23128DA20E5B630A@AL-PRI.Aldridge.local>

Thanks for the tips, but it was far more simple than that, I downloaded
the latest updates for Active Reports (by DataDynamics), and created
just the executables...Forgot that when I update my DLL/OCX I have to
create a new package and install on other peoples machines (hides head
in shame)


 


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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
MartyConnelly
Sent: 09 August 2005 19:55
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Slightly OT - Reports Slow To Open VB6 SQL
Server

Are you running on a developer machine with a gig of RAM and all your
users on 256 or 128 Meg machines.
Did some modify a login script that sets a low page file size.
Did someone recently install or upgrade a constantly running program
like a virus checker or office workflow program.
Heck are people running 2 virus checkers at same time.
Here are some hints on page file sizing for people who do photo or sound
editing with large page file requirements.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct03/articles/pcnotes.htm

paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

>To all,
>I have a VB application that over the last two days the majority of
users have encountered dramatic page file size increases when opening a
report, I use the same application and mine hardly moves....
>Has anyone come across a similar problem to this, in the past and got
any possible solutions...
>Many thanks in advance for any help on this
>
>Paul Hartland
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>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Aug 10 08:51:37 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:51:37 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Using SET to debug
Message-ID: <20050810135142.FCN225.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm writing a short article on using SET STATISTICS IO and SET STATISTICS
TIME to debug inefficient code -- do you guys use others? It has to be a SET
option -- that's the focus of the article. 
 
Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Aug 10 11:41:33 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:41:33 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables
In-Reply-To: <42F8FC1F.2030400@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0IL000J3UMD8HN@l-daemon>

Hi All:

I have been porting a legacy database into a new MS SQL set of tables. In
the process the data is added and removed several times as improvements are
made on the table structures and the DTS is tested. Each time the import
process is re-ran the auto ID identity values, of course, continue to
increment.

The field can be re-set manually by changing the ID field type, clearing the
table content and changing the field type back; all very labour intensive.
Is there a simple way, in code, to initialize the auto ID identity values so
it re-start at the initial seed value? 

MTIA
Jim 



From HARVEYF1 at WESTAT.com  Wed Aug 10 12:22:35 2005
From: HARVEYF1 at WESTAT.com (Francis Harvey)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:22:35 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables
Message-ID: <403593359CA56C4CAE1F8F4F00DCFE7D014C7033@MAILBE2.westat.com>

Jim,

Assuming you have the necessary permissions, I find:

DBCC CHECKIDENT ('table_name', RESEED, 0)

works well for reseeding the identity value.

Francis R Harvey III
WB 303, (301)294-3952
harveyf1 at westat.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:42 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables
> 
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> I have been porting a legacy database into a new MS SQL set 
> of tables. In
> the process the data is added and removed several times as 
> improvements are
> made on the table structures and the DTS is tested. Each time 
> the import
> process is re-ran the auto ID identity values, of course, continue to
> increment.
> 
> The field can be re-set manually by changing the ID field 
> type, clearing the
> table content and changing the field type back; all very 
> labour intensive.
> Is there a simple way, in code, to initialize the auto ID 
> identity values so
> it re-start at the initial seed value? 
> 
> MTIA
> Jim 


From James at fcidms.com  Wed Aug 10 12:27:23 2005
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:27:23 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables
In-Reply-To: <0IL000J3UMD8HN@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <0IL0006M5OHND0R0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Jim

If you use Truncate Table to clear the table contents, that will reset the
Identity back to the initial seed.
You can also use DBCC CHECKIDENT(tablename, RESEED,1) to reset the Identity
back to 1 or whatever value you need.  

Hope that helps.

James Barash

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:42 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables

Hi All:

I have been porting a legacy database into a new MS SQL set of tables. In
the process the data is added and removed several times as improvements are
made on the table structures and the DTS is tested. Each time the import
process is re-ran the auto ID identity values, of course, continue to
increment.

The field can be re-set manually by changing the ID field type, clearing the
table content and changing the field type back; all very labour intensive.
Is there a simple way, in code, to initialize the auto ID identity values so
it re-start at the initial seed value? 

MTIA
Jim 

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Wed Aug 10 12:44:58 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables
In-Reply-To: <0IL0006M5OHND0R0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <20050810174458.86740.qmail@web80804.mail.yahoo.com>

Jim, as James mentioned, I would use the TRUNCATE
command in your DTS. The only thing is if you have
relationships connecting to the table in question, you
will have to drop them before the truncate and
recreate them afterwards.



--- James Barash <James at fcidms.com> wrote:

> Jim
> 
> If you use Truncate Table to clear the table
> contents, that will reset the
> Identity back to the initial seed.
> You can also use DBCC CHECKIDENT(tablename,
> RESEED,1) to reset the Identity
> back to 1 or whatever value you need.  
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> James Barash
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:42 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> I have been porting a legacy database into a new MS
> SQL set of tables. In
> the process the data is added and removed several
> times as improvements are
> made on the table structures and the DTS is tested.
> Each time the import
> process is re-ran the auto ID identity values, of
> course, continue to
> increment.
> 
> The field can be re-set manually by changing the ID
> field type, clearing the
> table content and changing the field type back; all
> very labour intensive.
> Is there a simple way, in code, to initialize the
> auto ID identity values so
> it re-start at the initial seed value? 
> 
> MTIA
> Jim 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Aug 10 17:30:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:30:52 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Execution statistics
Message-ID: <20050810223231.SICU27018.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

If you an add an index that improves the execution time, but also increases
the logical reads -- is that a problem for the future? It seems to me that
as you add data those page hits are going to eventually slow you down,
despite the index. Am I analyzing this correctly? 
 
Or, do indexes always increase the logical reads -- that would make sense to
me too. 
 
Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Aug 10 17:58:08 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:58:08 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables
In-Reply-To: <20050810174458.86740.qmail@web80804.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0IL100K233SWPX@l-daemon>

Francis, James and David:

Thanks very much for you help! Much appreciated. I will implement the code
immediately and see how it works.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
Mcafee
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:45 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables

Jim, as James mentioned, I would use the TRUNCATE
command in your DTS. The only thing is if you have
relationships connecting to the table in question, you
will have to drop them before the truncate and
recreate them afterwards.



--- James Barash <James at fcidms.com> wrote:

> Jim
> 
> If you use Truncate Table to clear the table
> contents, that will reset the
> Identity back to the initial seed.
> You can also use DBCC CHECKIDENT(tablename,
> RESEED,1) to reset the Identity
> back to 1 or whatever value you need.  
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> James Barash
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:42 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Building tables
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> I have been porting a legacy database into a new MS
> SQL set of tables. In
> the process the data is added and removed several
> times as improvements are
> made on the table structures and the DTS is tested.
> Each time the import
> process is re-ran the auto ID identity values, of
> course, continue to
> increment.
> 
> The field can be re-set manually by changing the ID
> field type, clearing the
> table content and changing the field type back; all
> very labour intensive.
> Is there a simple way, in code, to initialize the
> auto ID identity values so
> it re-start at the initial seed value? 
> 
> MTIA
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 10 20:11:29 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:11:29 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Execution statistics
In-Reply-To: <20050810223231.SICU27018.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F18484181E50C3C32103AD6E5BD0@phx.gbl>

How much more logical reads?  If it is a lot more logical reads, I am 
betting that it might be a problem in the future since the more reads 
translates to higher execution (#of reads is probably more important on a 
slower disk).  Using a new index for a query I thought usually decreases 
reads  in most cases (because don't have to get the data from the table or 
from another "not so good" index which can be more expensive).

I wonder why the logical reads went up even though execution time went down. 
  Maybe the optimizer found that it was cheaper to create an executin plan 
that gets most of the data from the index and the rest from the table?  Was 
the fillfactor of the new index set to low percentage (index created over 
many pages)?

Billy


>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: "SQLList" <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Execution statistics
>Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:30:52 -0400
>
>If you an add an index that improves the execution time, but also increases
>the logical reads -- is that a problem for the future? It seems to me that
>as you add data those page hits are going to eventually slow you down,
>despite the index. Am I analyzing this correctly?
>
>Or, do indexes always increase the logical reads -- that would make sense 
>to
>me too.
>
>Susan H.
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Aug 11 08:43:59 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:43:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Execution statistics
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F18484181E50C3C32103AD6E5BD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050811134406.NPRL225.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I wonder why the logical reads went up even though execution time went down.

  Maybe the optimizer found that it was cheaper to create an executin plan
that gets most of the data from the index and the rest from the table?  Was
the fillfactor of the new index set to low percentage (index created over
many pages)?

===========This was my expectation too -- it's a very simple example query
-- but there's one JOIN and one WHERE clause. Just to experiment, I added an
index to the column specified in the WHERE clause. Ordinarily, this column
would not be a good candidate for an index. The reads increase on the table
specified in the WHERE clause (region), the one with the new index.
Execution time does go down. 

I know that inappropriate indexes can be a serious performance problem. 

Another interesting side-product was that even after I removed the new index
on the region column the execution stayed down -- once it went down, it
stayed down. I hadn't expected that. 



USE northwind
SET STATISTICS IO ON
SET STATISTICS TIME ON
SELECT lastname, firstname, orderid 
FROM Employees
INNER JOIN ORDERS
ON Employees.EmployeeID = Orders.EmployeeID 
WHERE region = 'WA'
SET STATISTICS IO ON
SET STATISTICS TIME OFF


Before Index:

SQL Server Execution Times:
   CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 0 ms.

(606 row(s) affected)

Table 'Orders'. Scan count 5, logical reads 11, physical reads 0, read-ahead
reads 0.
Table 'Employees'. Scan count 1, logical reads 2, physical reads 0,
read-ahead reads 0.

SQL Server Execution Times:
   CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 15 ms.

SQL Server Execution Times:
   CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 0 ms.

After Index:

SQL Server Execution Times:
   CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 0 ms.

(606 row(s) affected)

Table 'Orders'. Scan count 5, logical reads 11, physical reads 0, read-ahead
reads 0.
Table 'Employees'. Scan count 1, logical reads 11, physical reads 0,
read-ahead reads 0.

SQL Server Execution Times:
   CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 6 ms.

SQL Server Execution Times:
   CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 0 ms.



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Aug 11 12:11:58 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:11:58 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] explanation for differences in option naming scheme?
Message-ID: <20050811171204.ZMKR8550.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Can anyone explain why sometimes SQL Server options and properties have
underscores and sometimes they don't? I'm sure this has to do with some
naming scheme that I'm just not following. 
 
Example: 
 
SET optionnames:
 
SET STATISTICS IO
SET SHOWPLAN_ALL
 
I see this alot and I don't understand it. 
 
Susan H. 



From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 11 15:34:02 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:34:02 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Execution statistics
In-Reply-To: <20050811134406.NPRL225.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F11F5AA04FC8AEE6AC0EAE8E5BD0@phx.gbl>

Not sure how much signficance to attach to the execution time of this 
example since it is mostly less than 20 milliseconds because there might be 
something running in background that can affect its execution time (although 
after repeated running the query with and without the index, with the new 
region index I can get it under 10ms a few times but not at all without the 
region index).

The query with the region index looks like it is getting region data from 
the region index you created and then getting the rest of the employee data 
via bookmark lookup (a sign for improvement?).  It might be better for this 
query if your region index includes the other columns (ie. firstname 
lastname) of your query instead of just the region column column; to 
experiment, if you create a second region index (without dropping the first) 
but this time include the name columns, the optimzer will see that there are 
two region indexes to choose from but will choose the second index because 
it is cheaper execution plan.

CREATE INDEX IX_EMPLOYEES_region2 on employees(region, LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME)

Table 'Orders'. Scan count 5, logical reads 11, physical reads 0, read-ahead 
reads 0.
Table 'Employees'. Scan count 1, logical reads 1, physical reads 0, 
read-ahead reads 0.

With the second new index, I can now get the query execution time under 
10ms.

HTH
Billy


>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Execution statistics
>Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:43:59 -0400
>
>I wonder why the logical reads went up even though execution time went 
>down.
>
>   Maybe the optimizer found that it was cheaper to create an executin plan
>that gets most of the data from the index and the rest from the table?  Was
>the fillfactor of the new index set to low percentage (index created over
>many pages)?
>
>===========This was my expectation too -- it's a very simple example query
>-- but there's one JOIN and one WHERE clause. Just to experiment, I added 
>an
>index to the column specified in the WHERE clause. Ordinarily, this column
>would not be a good candidate for an index. The reads increase on the table
>specified in the WHERE clause (region), the one with the new index.
>Execution time does go down.
>
>I know that inappropriate indexes can be a serious performance problem.
>
>Another interesting side-product was that even after I removed the new 
>index
>on the region column the execution stayed down -- once it went down, it
>stayed down. I hadn't expected that.
>
>
>
>USE northwind
>SET STATISTICS IO ON
>SET STATISTICS TIME ON
>SELECT lastname, firstname, orderid
>FROM Employees
>INNER JOIN ORDERS
>ON Employees.EmployeeID = Orders.EmployeeID
>WHERE region = 'WA'
>SET STATISTICS IO ON
>SET STATISTICS TIME OFF
>
>
>Before Index:
>
>SQL Server Execution Times:
>    CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 0 ms.
>
>(606 row(s) affected)
>
>Table 'Orders'. Scan count 5, logical reads 11, physical reads 0, 
>read-ahead
>reads 0.
>Table 'Employees'. Scan count 1, logical reads 2, physical reads 0,
>read-ahead reads 0.
>
>SQL Server Execution Times:
>    CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 15 ms.
>
>SQL Server Execution Times:
>    CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 0 ms.
>
>After Index:
>
>SQL Server Execution Times:
>    CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 0 ms.
>
>(606 row(s) affected)
>
>Table 'Orders'. Scan count 5, logical reads 11, physical reads 0, 
>read-ahead
>reads 0.
>Table 'Employees'. Scan count 1, logical reads 11, physical reads 0,
>read-ahead reads 0.
>
>SQL Server Execution Times:
>    CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 6 ms.
>
>SQL Server Execution Times:
>    CPU time = 0 ms,  elapsed time = 0 ms.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Aug 11 16:33:56 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:33:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Execution statistics
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F11F5AA04FC8AEE6AC0EAE8E5BD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050811213355.DEGO8550.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
With the second new index, I can now get the query execution time under
10ms.

=========Seems to me that it's as much hit and miss as anything else. :) I
know there's a rhyme to everything that's going on under the hood -- right
now, I'm just guessing. 

Susan H. 



From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 11 17:20:51 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:20:51 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Execution statistics
In-Reply-To: <20050811213355.DEGO8550.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F19CCFA003FDFAC4BBE5079E5BD0@phx.gbl>

I usually don't pay too much attention to execution time (especially when it 
is a small query) because there are so many factors that can affect it that 
are outside of the database.  Number of reads provides more of a reliable 
and measureable benchmark in terms of fine tuning queries.

>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Execution statistics
>Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:33:56 -0400
>
>
>With the second new index, I can now get the query execution time under
>10ms.
>
>=========Seems to me that it's as much hit and miss as anything else. :) I
>know there's a rhyme to everything that's going on under the hood -- right
>now, I'm just guessing.
>
>Susan H.
>
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Aug 12 12:02:35 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:02:35 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT
Message-ID: <b874372a0508121002c3941e2@mail.gmail.com>

Happy Friday to all, 
This is not really that long, but I've included code to help simplfy what 
I'm talking about...

I have the following FOR XML Select, it produces the a valid XML object.

SELECT Top 1 
1 as TAG,
0 AS Parent,
PONUM [Header!1!PONUM!element],
RRDate [Header!1!RRDate!element],
NULL [OrderItems!2!CPN!element],
NULL [OrderItems!2!AddedDate!element]
FROM tbl_RR WHERE PONUM = '50803-01HB'

UNION ALL

SELECT 2 AS TAG,
1 AS Parent,
R.PONUM [OrderItems!2!PONUM!element],
NULL,
CPN [OrderItems!2!CPN!element],
AddedDate [OrderItems!2!AddedDate!element]
FROM tbl_RR R 
INNER JOIN tbl_RRLineItems RL
ON R.RRID = RL.RRID 
WHERE R.PONUM = '50803-01HB'
FOR XML EXPLICIT

The XML object looks like this:
<Header>
<PONUM>5080301HB</PONUM>
<RRDate>20050810T07:51:40.633</RRDate>
<OrderItems>
<CPN>925</CPN>
<AddedDate>20050810T07:51:40.680</AddedDate>
</OrderItems>
</Header>

This is almost where I need this, the xml that I'm trying to match is 
formated in this manner:
<WSOrder>
<Header>
<PONUM>5080301HB</PONUM>
<RRDate>20050810T07:51:40.633</RRDate>
</Header>
<OrderItems>
<WSOrderItem>
<CPN>925</CPN>
<AddedDate>20050810T07:51:40.680</AddedDate>
</WSOrderItem>
</OrderItems>
</WSOrder>

Since I'm almost there, I'm sure I just need to modify my Select (For XML) 
with maybe 2 more union alls, but I was wondering if anyone has done it this 
way before and could lend a pointer in the right direction :)

Thanks,
-- 
-Francisco
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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Fri Aug 12 18:14:58 2005
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:44:58 +0930
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2212342@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

Wow - two FOR XML EXPLICIT questions in 2 weeks!

Had the same problem - basically you want to add the surrounding empty
elements of <wsorder> and <wsorderitems>?

The root one isn't too hard to do.  The other one seems a bit tricker
but according to those who helped me in the below post, should be doable
by adding another UNION statement as you mentioned:
http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=53050

Post back if these don't help you out.

Cheers,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Francisco Tapia
Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2005 2:33 AM
To: SQL Server 2k List; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT

Happy Friday to all,
This is not really that long, but I've included code to help simplfy
what I'm talking about...

I have the following FOR XML Select, it produces the a valid XML object.

SELECT Top 1
1 as TAG,
0 AS Parent,
PONUM [Header!1!PONUM!element],
RRDate [Header!1!RRDate!element],
NULL [OrderItems!2!CPN!element],
NULL [OrderItems!2!AddedDate!element]
FROM tbl_RR WHERE PONUM = '50803-01HB'

UNION ALL

SELECT 2 AS TAG,
1 AS Parent,
R.PONUM [OrderItems!2!PONUM!element],
NULL,
CPN [OrderItems!2!CPN!element],
AddedDate [OrderItems!2!AddedDate!element] FROM tbl_RR R INNER JOIN
tbl_RRLineItems RL ON R.RRID = RL.RRID WHERE R.PONUM = '50803-01HB'
FOR XML EXPLICIT

The XML object looks like this:
<Header>
	<PONUM>5080301HB</PONUM>
	<RRDate>20050810T07:51:40.633</RRDate>
	<OrderItems>
		<CPN>925</CPN>
		<AddedDate>20050810T07:51:40.680</AddedDate>
	</OrderItems>
</Header>

This is almost where I need this, the xml that I'm trying to match is
formated in this manner:
<WSOrder>
	<Header>
		<PONUM>5080301HB</PONUM>
		<RRDate>20050810T07:51:40.633</RRDate>
	</Header>
	<OrderItems>
		<WSOrderItem>
			<CPN>925</CPN>
			<AddedDate>20050810T07:51:40.680</AddedDate>
		</WSOrderItem>
	</OrderItems>
</WSOrder>

Since I'm almost there, I'm sure I just need to modify my Select (For
XML) with maybe 2 more union alls, but I was wondering if anyone has
done it this way before and could lend a pointer in the right direction
:)

Thanks,
--
-Francisco
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 23:05:53 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:05:53 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT
In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2212342@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
References: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2212342@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
Message-ID: <b874372a05081521054241af7@mail.gmail.com>

That link has all the answers, and a cleaner way to write this query from 
hell ;). Thanks for the tip

On 8/12/05, Haslett, Andrew <andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au> wrote:
> 
> Wow - two FOR XML EXPLICIT questions in 2 weeks!
> 
> Had the same problem - basically you want to add the surrounding empty
> elements of <wsorder> and <wsorderitems>?
> 
> The root one isn't too hard to do. The other one seems a bit tricker
> but according to those who helped me in the below post, should be doable
> by adding another UNION statement as you mentioned:
> http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=53050
> 
> Post back if these don't help you out.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andrew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2005 2:33 AM
> To: SQL Server 2k List; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] FOR XML EXPLICIT
> 
> Happy Friday to all,
> This is not really that long, but I've included code to help simplfy
> what I'm talking about...
> 
> I have the following FOR XML Select, it produces the a valid XML object.
> 
> SELECT Top 1
> 1 as TAG,
> 0 AS Parent,
> PONUM [Header!1!PONUM!element],
> RRDate [Header!1!RRDate!element],
> NULL [OrderItems!2!CPN!element],
> NULL [OrderItems!2!AddedDate!element]
> FROM tbl_RR WHERE PONUM = '50803-01HB'
> 
> UNION ALL
> 
> SELECT 2 AS TAG,
> 1 AS Parent,
> R.PONUM [OrderItems!2!PONUM!element],
> NULL,
> CPN [OrderItems!2!CPN!element],
> AddedDate [OrderItems!2!AddedDate!element] FROM tbl_RR R INNER JOIN
> tbl_RRLineItems RL ON R.RRID = RL.RRID WHERE R.PONUM = '50803-01HB'
> FOR XML EXPLICIT
> 
> The XML object looks like this:
> <Header>
> <PONUM>5080301HB</PONUM>
> <RRDate>20050810T07:51:40.633</RRDate>
> <OrderItems>
> <CPN>925</CPN>
> <AddedDate>20050810T07:51:40.680</AddedDate>
> </OrderItems>
> </Header>
> 
> This is almost where I need this, the xml that I'm trying to match is
> formated in this manner:
> <WSOrder>
> <Header>
> <PONUM>5080301HB</PONUM>
> <RRDate>20050810T07:51:40.633</RRDate>
> </Header>
> <OrderItems>
> <WSOrderItem>
> <CPN>925</CPN>
> <AddedDate>20050810T07:51:40.680</AddedDate>
> </WSOrderItem>
> </OrderItems>
> </WSOrder>
> 
> Since I'm almost there, I'm sure I just need to modify my Select (For
> XML) with maybe 2 more union alls, but I was wondering if anyone has
> done it this way before and could lend a pointer in the right direction
> :)
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> -Francisco
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 08:22:31 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:22:31 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225EB9@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi all

I have 2 databases that I need to transfer from one SQL Server server to
another. I need the data, but I also need the logins, security settings,
maintenance plans, jobs etc.

Up to now I have only ever used backup and restore to copy databases (data
only) on a single server.

What is the best way to do this? I have been asked to do it in the next 2
hours.

ha ha ha ha ha ha

TIA

Roz
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From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:27:00 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
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Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)


> Hi all
>
> I have 2 databases that I need to transfer from one SQL Server server to
> another. I need the data, but I also need the logins, security settings,
> maintenance plans, jobs etc.
>
> Up to now I have only ever used backup and restore to copy databases (data
> only) on a single server.
>
> What is the best way to do this? I have been asked to do it in the next 2
> hours.
>
> ha ha ha ha ha ha
>
> TIA
>
> Roz
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Tue Aug 16 08:47:00 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:47:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492CC7C@natexch.jenkens.com>

I have used the export data command to transfer from one server to another.

Choose Copy objects and data, and leave the default of all objects.  I have
gotten everything transferred including logins.

Debbie

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Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)


Hi all

I have 2 databases that I need to transfer from one SQL Server server to
another. I need the data, but I also need the logins, security settings,
maintenance plans, jobs etc.

Up to now I have only ever used backup and restore to copy databases (data
only) on a single server.

What is the best way to do this? I have been asked to do it in the next 2
hours.

ha ha ha ha ha ha

TIA

Roz
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 09:11:33 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:11:33 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225EBB@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Thanks Martin

That says it is a SQL 2000 wizard though :(

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Sent: 16 August 2005 14:27
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/adminsql/ad
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To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)


> Hi all
>
> I have 2 databases that I need to transfer from one SQL Server server 
> to another. I need the data, but I also need the logins, security 
> settings, maintenance plans, jobs etc.
>
> Up to now I have only ever used backup and restore to copy databases 
> (data
> only) on a single server.
>
> What is the best way to do this? I have been asked to do it in the 
> next 2 hours.
>
> ha ha ha ha ha ha
>
> TIA
>
> Roz
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 11:09:25 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:09:25 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
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You'll need to move over the maintenace jobs manually, you can do it easily 
enough though, in the msdb look for the sysjobs tables and derivatives... 
depending on how many jobs you have this might be a bit timeconsuming 
matching up everything.




On 8/16/05, Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Martin
> 
> That says it is a SQL 2000 wizard though :(
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Reid [mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2005 14:27
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
> 
> 
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/adminsql/ad
> _onmigwiz_0z50.asp
> 
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:22 PM
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
> 
> 
> > Hi all
> >
> > I have 2 databases that I need to transfer from one SQL Server server
> > to another. I need the data, but I also need the logins, security
> > settings, maintenance plans, jobs etc.
> >
> > Up to now I have only ever used backup and restore to copy databases
> > (data
> > only) on a single server.
> >
> > What is the best way to do this? I have been asked to do it in the
> > next 2 hours.
> >
> > ha ha ha ha ha ha
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> >
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Wed Aug 17 03:23:05 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:23:05 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225EC2@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Thanks Francisco, Debbie & Martin

The Export wizard got my data & logins across, and although there was an
error at the end (properties for objects in the Master could not be changed?
something like that) it seems to have brought everything over. Got lots of
checking to do now...

We don't have too many jobs, and this is a temporary home for the database
anyway, so I may leave setting those up until the 'real' server is upgraded
and the database goes back.

Thanks again

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: 16 August 2005 17:09
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)


You'll need to move over the maintenace jobs manually, you can do it easily 
enough though, in the msdb look for the sysjobs tables and derivatives... 
depending on how many jobs you have this might be a bit timeconsuming 
matching up everything.




On 8/16/05, Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Martin
> 
> That says it is a SQL 2000 wizard though :(
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Reid [mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2005 14:27
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
> 
> 
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/admin
> sql/ad
> _onmigwiz_0z50.asp
> 
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roz Clarke" <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk>
> To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:22 PM
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
> 
> 
> > Hi all
> >
> > I have 2 databases that I need to transfer from one SQL Server 
> > server to another. I need the data, but I also need the logins, 
> > security settings, maintenance plans, jobs etc.
> >
> > Up to now I have only ever used backup and restore to copy databases 
> > (data
> > only) on a single server.
> >
> > What is the best way to do this? I have been asked to do it in the 
> > next 2 hours.
> >
> > ha ha ha ha ha ha
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Roz
> >
> 
> 
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From chris at denverdb.com  Wed Aug 17 08:33:01 2005
From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:33:01 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
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If you're using SQL authentication then the logins may have been orphaned
(Windows Authnticated logins will remain fine).  So if you do have orphaned
users (valid in the database but not in on the server) just do a search on
resolving orphaned logins and you should get several scripts on how to
resolve.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Roz
Clarke
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:23 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)


Thanks Francisco, Debbie & Martin

The Export wizard got my data & logins across, and although there was an
error at the end (properties for objects in the Master could not be changed?
something like that) it seems to have brought everything over. Got lots of
checking to do now...

We don't have too many jobs, and this is a temporary home for the database
anyway, so I may leave setting those up until the 'real' server is upgraded
and the database goes back.

Thanks again

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: 16 August 2005 17:09
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)


You'll need to move over the maintenace jobs manually, you can do it easily
enough though, in the msdb look for the sysjobs tables and derivatives...
depending on how many jobs you have this might be a bit timeconsuming
matching up everything.




On 8/16/05, Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks Martin
>
> That says it is a SQL 2000 wizard though :(
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Reid [mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2005 14:27
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
>
>
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/admin
> sql/ad
> _onmigwiz_0z50.asp
>
>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roz Clarke" <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk>
> To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:22 PM
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving databases (SQL Server 7)
>
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I have 2 databases that I need to transfer from one SQL Server
> > server to another. I need the data, but I also need the logins,
> > security settings, maintenance plans, jobs etc.
> >
> > Up to now I have only ever used backup and restore to copy databases
> > (data
> > only) on a single server.
> >
> > What is the best way to do this? I have been asked to do it in the
> > next 2 hours.
> >
> > ha ha ha ha ha ha
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Roz
> >
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From Clay.Passick at minneapolis.edu  Thu Aug 18 11:43:36 2005
From: Clay.Passick at minneapolis.edu (Clay Passick)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:43:36 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question
Message-ID: <s3047473.098@halley.mctc.mnscu.edu>

Hi to all
 
I am trying to restore a database from a server file backup.  I do not
have a backup through SQL Server as it is a database in development and
not production at this point.   Is there a way to take the restored from
backup files of database A 
(A_data.mdf and A_log.ldf) and rename those files as B_data.mdf and
B_log.ldf and restore them to a newly created database B.  I don't want
to restore over this database in development just retrieve a table or
two.  Everything I have tried at this point either errors out or looks
like it will overwrite the original database because it knows that
originally it was database A.
 
Clay


From kens.programming at verizon.net  Thu Aug 18 12:01:46 2005
From: kens.programming at verizon.net (kens.programming)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:01:46 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question
In-Reply-To: <s3047473.098@halley.mctc.mnscu.edu>
Message-ID: <0ILF00FRMGFQ9RR0@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>

Clay,

You would right click on a database, select "All Tasks" and "Restore
Database".  First thing I like to do so that I don't forget is to change the
database name in the drop down labeled "Restore as database:" to the name I
want to give it.  Then, select the radio button on the General tab labeled
"From Device".  The General tab will change with this selection and you will
need to click on the button labeled "Select Devices", at which point you
will need to drill down to the location of your backup file.  Then you need
to go to the Options tab and change the Move to Physical File Name to an
appropriate path for it to create the new mdf and ldf files.  I always like
to check the "Force Restore over existing database" checkbox, but that is
just me.

Hope this helps

Ken

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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Clay
Passick
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:44 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question

Hi to all
 
I am trying to restore a database from a server file backup.  I do not
have a backup through SQL Server as it is a database in development and
not production at this point.   Is there a way to take the restored from
backup files of database A 
(A_data.mdf and A_log.ldf) and rename those files as B_data.mdf and
B_log.ldf and restore them to a newly created database B.  I don't want
to restore over this database in development just retrieve a table or
two.  Everything I have tried at this point either errors out or looks
like it will overwrite the original database because it knows that
originally it was database A.
 
Clay
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From kens.programming at verizon.net  Thu Aug 18 12:11:22 2005
From: kens.programming at verizon.net (kens.programming)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:11:22 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question
In-Reply-To: <0ILF00FRMGFQ9RR0@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <0ILF0051IGVRRWC7@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>

Sorry, now that I have read this again, I see that this is not what you were
asking for.

Ken

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From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
kens.programming
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:02 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question

Clay,

You would right click on a database, select "All Tasks" and "Restore
Database".  First thing I like to do so that I don't forget is to change the
database name in the drop down labeled "Restore as database:" to the name I
want to give it.  Then, select the radio button on the General tab labeled
"From Device".  The General tab will change with this selection and you will
need to click on the button labeled "Select Devices", at which point you
will need to drill down to the location of your backup file.  Then you need
to go to the Options tab and change the Move to Physical File Name to an
appropriate path for it to create the new mdf and ldf files.  I always like
to check the "Force Restore over existing database" checkbox, but that is
just me.

Hope this helps

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Clay
Passick
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:44 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question

Hi to all
 
I am trying to restore a database from a server file backup.  I do not
have a backup through SQL Server as it is a database in development and
not production at this point.   Is there a way to take the restored from
backup files of database A 
(A_data.mdf and A_log.ldf) and rename those files as B_data.mdf and
B_log.ldf and restore them to a newly created database B.  I don't want
to restore over this database in development just retrieve a table or
two.  Everything I have tried at this point either errors out or looks
like it will overwrite the original database because it knows that
originally it was database A.
 
Clay
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Aug 18 16:22:27 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:22:27 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question
In-Reply-To: <0ILF0051IGVRRWC7@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <200508182122.j7ILMQR04104@databaseadvisors.com>

Consult sp_attach_single_file_db in BOL. It will supply the arguments you
need to attach such a database to your server.

HTH,
Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
kens.programming
Sent: August 18, 2005 1:11 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question

Sorry, now that I have read this again, I see that this is not what you were
asking for.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
kens.programming
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:02 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question

Clay,

You would right click on a database, select "All Tasks" and "Restore
Database".  First thing I like to do so that I don't forget is to change the
database name in the drop down labeled "Restore as database:" to the name I
want to give it.  Then, select the radio button on the General tab labeled
"From Device".  The General tab will change with this selection and you will
need to click on the button labeled "Select Devices", at which point you
will need to drill down to the location of your backup file.  Then you need
to go to the Options tab and change the Move to Physical File Name to an
appropriate path for it to create the new mdf and ldf files.  I always like
to check the "Force Restore over existing database" checkbox, but that is
just me.

Hope this helps

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Clay
Passick
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:44 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question

Hi to all
 
I am trying to restore a database from a server file backup.  I do not
have a backup through SQL Server as it is a database in development and
not production at this point.   Is there a way to take the restored from
backup files of database A 
(A_data.mdf and A_log.ldf) and rename those files as B_data.mdf and
B_log.ldf and restore them to a newly created database B.  I don't want
to restore over this database in development just retrieve a table or
two.  Everything I have tried at this point either errors out or looks
like it will overwrite the original database because it knows that
originally it was database A.
 
Clay
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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 18 16:40:54 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:40:54 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question
In-Reply-To: <s3047473.098@halley.mctc.mnscu.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F84D147E07B6B9ADA3E195E5B20@phx.gbl>

you want a copy of the same db on the same server without affecting the 
existing db, right?

the following code restores a db from backup file; the new user db will use 
the physical db file names you give to it....

RESTORE DATABASE [b] FROM
DISK = N'c:\the_backup_file_name_of_a_db.bak' WITH  FILE = 1,
NOUNLOAD ,  STATS = 10,  RECOVERY ,
MOVE N'a_Data' TO N'c:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL 
Server\MSSQL\data\b_data.mdf',
MOVE N'a_Log' TO N'c:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL 
Server\MSSQL\data\b_log.ldf'

the most important part is the "RESTORE DATABASE [b]" since this will tell 
you the name of the db you are trying to restore.  that is, if it is 
"RESTORE DATABASE [a]", you will overwriting the existing database "a" 
(which is something you don't want).  the last two lines with the MOVE 
option indicates the new physical file names to use for the logical data 
files that are already present in the backed up db.  To be thorough, look up 
"restore" in BOL to make sure you understand before proceeding.

hth

Billy


>From: "Clay Passick" <Clay.Passick at minneapolis.edu>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Backup/Restore Question
>Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:43:36 -0500
>
>Hi to all
>
>I am trying to restore a database from a server file backup.  I do not
>have a backup through SQL Server as it is a database in development and
>not production at this point.   Is there a way to take the restored from
>backup files of database A
>(A_data.mdf and A_log.ldf) and rename those files as B_data.mdf and
>B_log.ldf and restore them to a newly created database B.  I don't want
>to restore over this database in development just retrieve a table or
>two.  Everything I have tried at this point either errors out or looks
>like it will overwrite the original database because it knows that
>originally it was database A.
>
>Clay
>_______________________________________________
>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Aug 19 11:23:28 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:23:28 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] importing Access data
Message-ID: <20050819162329.UHCL9746.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've got an existing SQL Server database and an Access database. The client
wants to dump the Access data into the SQL Sever database and dump the .mdb
file completely. This is a one-time job. 
 
I figure I have two approaches:
 
1. We can clear a block of time to manually import the Access data. I'd be
working with a backup copy and they'd have to agree not to use the SQL
Server database while I was importing -- 
2. After reviewing the backup, I could write the necessary stored procedures
and let them run them to import the data themselves. That way, they wouldn't
have any downtime. 
 
Any comments? Any other suggestions? I don't have to convert anything other
that Access datatypes that won't import as is -- any comments about that? I
don't anticipate much trouble outside of maybe having to dump some dates,
but I haven't reviewed the Access data yet, so that might not be necessary. 
 
Susan H. 



From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Aug 19 12:01:15 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:01:15 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] importing Access data
In-Reply-To: <20050819162329.UHCL9746.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20050819162329.UHCL9746.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <b874372a050819100163fa9a37@mail.gmail.com>

The way we did it is write some DTS jobs that would truncate the Sql Server 
tables before the import, this afforded us the ability to import fresh data 
at a whim while still developing stored procedures for data access. Will the 
customer still be using the current FE? If so the import process ought to be 
a huge breeze, since you're just importing data, you would not need to write 
any sprocs, just perhaps views so that the end users do not hit the actual 
datatabales themselves.

On 8/19/05, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> I've got an existing SQL Server database and an Access database. The 
> client
> wants to dump the Access data into the SQL Sever database and dump the 
> .mdb
> file completely. This is a one-time job.
> 
> I figure I have two approaches:
> 
> 1. We can clear a block of time to manually import the Access data. I'd be
> working with a backup copy and they'd have to agree not to use the SQL
> Server database while I was importing --
> 2. After reviewing the backup, I could write the necessary stored 
> procedures
> and let them run them to import the data themselves. That way, they 
> wouldn't
> have any downtime.
> 
> Any comments? Any other suggestions? I don't have to convert anything 
> other
> that Access datatypes that won't import as is -- any comments about that? 
> I
> don't anticipate much trouble outside of maybe having to dump some dates,
> but I haven't reviewed the Access data yet, so that might not be 
> necessary.
> 
> Susan H.
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 19 11:57:31 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:57:31 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] importing Access data
In-Reply-To: <20050819162329.UHCL9746.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <0ILH009B1B3UKV@l-daemon>

Hi Susan:

I am going through a similar event. The only difference is the source
database is a legacy DB. I puzzled over what would be the best method and
decided on writing a full set of queries and DTS import routines which will
extract and manipulate the data out of the existing database and into the MS
SQL. Most is done from the SQL end.

When the testing is completed I will move the client over in an evening and
they will run in parallel for a month and then drop the old system. (The FE
is also going to be new; starting from a DOS based DB named Clarion to
ASP.Net) 

To make a long story short, build, test and automate the import routines,
using the backup data and then run the data import yourself. This is because
if any data in the old system is wrong... missing keys, missing records and
has records with bad-data... (even since your latest backup test data) the
import will crash with no one to help. 

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:23 AM
To: SQLList
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] importing Access data

I've got an existing SQL Server database and an Access database. The client
wants to dump the Access data into the SQL Sever database and dump the .mdb
file completely. This is a one-time job. 
 
I figure I have two approaches:
 
1. We can clear a block of time to manually import the Access data. I'd be
working with a backup copy and they'd have to agree not to use the SQL
Server database while I was importing -- 
2. After reviewing the backup, I could write the necessary stored procedures
and let them run them to import the data themselves. That way, they wouldn't
have any downtime. 
 
Any comments? Any other suggestions? I don't have to convert anything other
that Access datatypes that won't import as is -- any comments about that? I
don't anticipate much trouble outside of maybe having to dump some dates,
but I haven't reviewed the Access data yet, so that might not be necessary. 
 
Susan H. 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 19 12:43:11 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:43:11 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] importing Access data
References: <20050819162329.UHCL9746.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <43061A2F.3010004@shaw.ca>

Here is a brief checklist of possible gotcha upsizing problems.
http://www.upsizewizard.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browse&id=5036&pageid=22

I also use Enterprise Architect's MDB to SQL reengineering UML methods 
to check data model
But this takes awhile for familiarization. And is more belts and 
suspenders to satisfy DBA's
http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/ea.htm

Susan Harkins wrote:

>I've got an existing SQL Server database and an Access database. The client
>wants to dump the Access data into the SQL Sever database and dump the .mdb
>file completely. This is a one-time job. 
> 
>I figure I have two approaches:
> 
>1. We can clear a block of time to manually import the Access data. I'd be
>working with a backup copy and they'd have to agree not to use the SQL
>Server database while I was importing -- 
>2. After reviewing the backup, I could write the necessary stored procedures
>and let them run them to import the data themselves. That way, they wouldn't
>have any downtime. 
> 
>Any comments? Any other suggestions? I don't have to convert anything other
>that Access datatypes that won't import as is -- any comments about that? I
>don't anticipate much trouble outside of maybe having to dump some dates,
>but I haven't reviewed the Access data yet, so that might not be necessary. 
> 
>Susan H. 
>
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>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 19 13:46:24 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:46:24 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] importing Access data
In-Reply-To: <20050819162329.UHCL9746.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F2255E9425E265F53B6B52BE5B50@phx.gbl>

if you are very strict about the naming convention of objects in your sql 
server db, i would suggest to look over the names of the objects after you 
have imported the structures from access to sql server (ie. script it out 
from EM) and make any corrections if necessary.  I purely use dts or sql to 
do the data import but to replicate the db structure in sql server, maybe 
upsizing wizard is best way to go?  I'd prefer dts any day over upsizing 
wizard for copy the structure (i'm talking just about the table structure, 
not data) but have not been able to figure out how to transfer the defaults 
in access into sql server; if anyone knows how, i'd be interested to know.

Billy

>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: "SQLList" <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] importing Access data
>Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:23:28 -0400
>
>I've got an existing SQL Server database and an Access database. The client
>wants to dump the Access data into the SQL Sever database and dump the .mdb
>file completely. This is a one-time job.
>
>I figure I have two approaches:
>
>1. We can clear a block of time to manually import the Access data. I'd be
>working with a backup copy and they'd have to agree not to use the SQL
>Server database while I was importing --
>2. After reviewing the backup, I could write the necessary stored 
>procedures
>and let them run them to import the data themselves. That way, they 
>wouldn't
>have any downtime.
>
>Any comments? Any other suggestions? I don't have to convert anything other
>that Access datatypes that won't import as is -- any comments about that? I
>don't anticipate much trouble outside of maybe having to dump some dates,
>but I haven't reviewed the Access data yet, so that might not be necessary.
>
>Susan H.
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-SQLServer mailing list
>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Aug 19 14:20:39 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:20:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] importing Access data
In-Reply-To: <b874372a050819100163fa9a37@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050819192040.TYB1144.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Will the customer still be using the current FE? If so the import process
ought to be a huge breeze, since you're just importing data, you would not
need to write any sprocs, just perhaps views so that the end users do not
hit the actual datatabales themselves.

=============Right now, all they want is to map the Access fields to
specific SQL Server columns -- the fe is already there. It sounds pretty
easy to me. If I were there, I could just import, fix, import, fix... but
I'm not on-site. 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Aug 23 08:19:25 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:19:25 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent
Message-ID: <20050823131926.OCCX3347.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Does SQL Server have a string function that's similar to Access's InStr() --
I haven't found one. 
 
Susan H. 



From mikedorism at verizon.net  Tue Aug 23 08:26:39 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:26:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent
In-Reply-To: <20050823131926.OCCX3347.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000001c5a7e6$4c5ac160$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>

Yes it does.  Look up CHARINDEX in BOL.

Doris Manning
mikedorism at verizon.net

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:19 AM
To: SQLList
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent

Does SQL Server have a string function that's similar to Access's InStr() --
I haven't found one. 
 
Susan H. 

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From jonathan.guise at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 08:28:20 2005
From: jonathan.guise at donnslaw.co.uk (Jonathan Guise)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:28:20 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318808335CE2@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Yes there is a SQL server equivalent called substring:

 substring(<colname>,<start>,<Length>)

Regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: 23-Aug-2005 14:19
To: SQLList
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent


Does SQL Server have a string function that's similar to Access's InStr() --
I haven't found one. 
 
Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Aug 23 08:28:36 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:28:36 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent
In-Reply-To: <000001c5a7e6$4c5ac160$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>
Message-ID: <20050823132836.OFVT3347.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Thanks Doris -- I'll take a look. 

Susan H. 

Yes it does.  Look up CHARINDEX in BOL.



From mikedorism at verizon.net  Tue Aug 23 08:40:09 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:40:09 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318808335CE2@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <000a01c5a7e8$2f0dc510$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>

SubString isn't the same as InStr.  InStr returns the position of the string
being searched for while SubString returns a string in a specific place.

Doris Manning
mikedorism at verizon.net

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From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Guise
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:28 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent

Yes there is a SQL server equivalent called substring:

 substring(<colname>,<start>,<Length>)

Regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: 23-Aug-2005 14:19
To: SQLList
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent


Does SQL Server have a string function that's similar to Access's InStr() --
I haven't found one. 
 
Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Aug 23 08:41:21 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:41:21 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent
In-Reply-To: <000a01c5a7e8$2f0dc510$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>
Message-ID: <20050823134121.OLGU3347.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Right -- I know about Substring -- I need the specific position of the
string as a value -- 

Susan H. 

SubString isn't the same as InStr.  InStr returns the position of the string
being searched for while SubString returns a string in a specific place.




From artful at rogers.com  Tue Aug 23 11:35:51 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 12:35:51 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent
In-Reply-To: <20050823134121.OLGU3347.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200508231635.j7NGZuR24677@databaseadvisors.com>

Look up CharIndex() in BOL.

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From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: August 23, 2005 9:41 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] InStr equivalent

Right -- I know about Substring -- I need the specific position of the
string as a value -- 

Susan H. 

SubString isn't the same as InStr.  InStr returns the position of the string
being searched for while SubString returns a string in a specific place.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Aug 24 10:23:53 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:23:53 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP
Message-ID: <010401c5a8bf$d9c36b90$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

How do I execute a SP to see the resulting data.

The SP is:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
-- Stored procedure that will select an existing row from the table
'WebNewsSource'
-- based on the Primary Key.
-- Gets: @ID int
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[upWebNewsSource_SelectOne]
	@ID int
AS
SET NOCOUNT ON
-- SELECT an existing row from the table.
SELECT
	[ID],
	[Source],
	[RSSURL],
	[RSSSelect],
	[RSSTitle],
	[RSSLink],
	[RSSDescription]
FROM [dbo].[WebNewsSource]
WHERE
	[ID] = @ID


GO

It is in database RSSFeeds
I am logged in and trying to use query analyzer to execute the SP but
obviously don't know how.  

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/




From Paul.Hartland at orridge.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 10:30:52 2005
From: Paul.Hartland at orridge.co.uk (Paul Hartland)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:30:52 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP
Message-ID: <14A7AB003EFD444BBB193A23128DA20E5B6A3B@AL-PRI.Aldridge.local>

To execute an SP through Query Analyser try the following:

EXEC upWebNewsSource_SelectOne 'YourPrimaryKeyValue'

Note include the single quotes around your primary key 


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Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
ISHARP
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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: 24 August 2005 16:24
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP

How do I execute a SP to see the resulting data.

The SP is:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-----
-- Stored procedure that will select an existing row from the table
'WebNewsSource'
-- based on the Primary Key.
-- Gets: @ID int
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-----
CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[upWebNewsSource_SelectOne]
	@ID int
AS
SET NOCOUNT ON
-- SELECT an existing row from the table.
SELECT
	[ID],
	[Source],
	[RSSURL],
	[RSSSelect],
	[RSSTitle],
	[RSSLink],
	[RSSDescription]
FROM [dbo].[WebNewsSource]
WHERE
	[ID] = @ID


GO

It is in database RSSFeeds
I am logged in and trying to use query analyzer to execute the SP but
obviously don't know how.  

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jonathan.guise at donnslaw.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 10:32:45 2005
From: jonathan.guise at donnslaw.co.uk (Jonathan Guise)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:32:45 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318808335CF7@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Try the following in query analyzer: -
____________________________________________________________________
EXEC upWebNewsSource_SelectOne @ID = 3
____________________________________________________________________


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: 24-Aug-2005 16:24
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP


How do I execute a SP to see the resulting data.

The SP is:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
-- Stored procedure that will select an existing row from the table
'WebNewsSource'
-- based on the Primary Key.
-- Gets: @ID int
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[upWebNewsSource_SelectOne]
	@ID int
AS
SET NOCOUNT ON
-- SELECT an existing row from the table.
SELECT
	[ID],
	[Source],
	[RSSURL],
	[RSSSelect],
	[RSSTitle],
	[RSSLink],
	[RSSDescription]
FROM [dbo].[WebNewsSource]
WHERE
	[ID] = @ID


GO

It is in database RSSFeeds
I am logged in and trying to use query analyzer to execute the SP but
obviously don't know how.  

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Aug 24 10:38:06 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:38:06 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP
In-Reply-To: <14A7AB003EFD444BBB193A23128DA20E5B6A3B@AL-PRI.Aldridge.local>
Message-ID: <011901c5a8c1$d71ec680$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Thanks, that worked, and the SP returned exactly one record which was
expected.  Now to discover why it doesn't return a record in the VB.Net
code.

John W. Colby
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From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Hartland
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:31 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP


To execute an SP through Query Analyser try the following:

EXEC upWebNewsSource_SelectOne 'YourPrimaryKeyValue'

Note include the single quotes around your primary key 


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Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
ISHARP
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Pharmacy) provide IT resources for the Christie Group Stock & Inventory
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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: 24 August 2005 16:24
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP

How do I execute a SP to see the resulting data.

The SP is:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-----
-- Stored procedure that will select an existing row from the table
'WebNewsSource'
-- based on the Primary Key.
-- Gets: @ID int
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-----
CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[upWebNewsSource_SelectOne]
	@ID int
AS
SET NOCOUNT ON
-- SELECT an existing row from the table.
SELECT
	[ID],
	[Source],
	[RSSURL],
	[RSSSelect],
	[RSSTitle],
	[RSSLink],
	[RSSDescription]
FROM [dbo].[WebNewsSource]
WHERE
	[ID] = @ID


GO

It is in database RSSFeeds
I am logged in and trying to use query analyzer to execute the SP but
obviously don't know how.  

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From tomlough at eircom.net  Wed Aug 24 10:43:58 2005
From: tomlough at eircom.net (Thomas O Loughlin)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:43:58 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP
In-Reply-To: <14A7AB003EFD444BBB193A23128DA20E5B6A3B@AL-PRI.Aldridge.local>
Message-ID: <200508241544.j7OFiLR06165@databaseadvisors.com>

John,

Try the following from QA :

upWebNewsSource_SelectOne @ID=12

If you need to execute this through a sproc then :

EXEC upWebNewsSource_SelectOne @ID=12

But make sure that you've selected your development DB from the QA dropdown
toolbar, otherwise you've to fully qualify your sproc, e.g.

[DatabaseName].dbo.upWebNewsSource_SelectOne @ID=12

Hope this helps

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: 24 August 2005 16:24
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP

How do I execute a SP to see the resulting data.

The SP is:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-----
-- Stored procedure that will select an existing row from the table
'WebNewsSource'
-- based on the Primary Key.
-- Gets: @ID int
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-----
CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[upWebNewsSource_SelectOne]
	@ID int
AS
SET NOCOUNT ON
-- SELECT an existing row from the table.
SELECT
	[ID],
	[Source],
	[RSSURL],
	[RSSSelect],
	[RSSTitle],
	[RSSLink],
	[RSSDescription]
FROM [dbo].[WebNewsSource]
WHERE
	[ID] = @ID


GO

It is in database RSSFeeds
I am logged in and trying to use query analyzer to execute the SP but
obviously don't know how.  

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From Paul.Hartland at orridge.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 10:43:58 2005
From: Paul.Hartland at orridge.co.uk (Paul Hartland)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:43:58 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP
Message-ID: <14A7AB003EFD444BBB193A23128DA20E5B6A3F@AL-PRI.Aldridge.local>

In VB (don't know net) I use the following

Dim rsData As ADODB.Recordset
Set rsData = [YourConnectionToSQL].Execute("YourSP '" & [YourPrimaryKey]
& "'")

For instance I have a DataEnvironment called DEGen and a connection
object to SQL Server called SQLConn which would make the above line like
so:

Set rsData = DEGen.SQLConn.Execute("MySP '" & [MyKey] & "'") 


PAUL HARTLAND
Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
ISHARP
DDI - 01922 472031
Mobile - 07730 523179

 

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Pharmacy) provide IT resources for the Christie Group Stock & Inventory
Services companies.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: 24 August 2005 16:38
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP

Thanks, that worked, and the SP returned exactly one record which was
expected.  Now to discover why it doesn't return a record in the VB.Net
code.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Hartland
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:31 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP


To execute an SP through Query Analyser try the following:

EXEC upWebNewsSource_SelectOne 'YourPrimaryKeyValue'

Note include the single quotes around your primary key 


PAUL HARTLAND
Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
ISHARP
DDI - 01922 472031
Mobile - 07730 523179

 

ISHARP (Information Services for Hospitality, Audit, Retail and
Pharmacy) provide IT resources for the Christie Group Stock & Inventory
Services companies.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: 24 August 2005 16:24
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP

How do I execute a SP to see the resulting data.

The SP is:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-----
-- Stored procedure that will select an existing row from the table
'WebNewsSource'
-- based on the Primary Key.
-- Gets: @ID int
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-----
CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[upWebNewsSource_SelectOne]
	@ID int
AS
SET NOCOUNT ON
-- SELECT an existing row from the table.
SELECT
	[ID],
	[Source],
	[RSSURL],
	[RSSSelect],
	[RSSTitle],
	[RSSLink],
	[RSSDescription]
FROM [dbo].[WebNewsSource]
WHERE
	[ID] = @ID


GO

It is in database RSSFeeds
I am logged in and trying to use query analyzer to execute the SP but
obviously don't know how.  

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Wed Aug 24 13:10:08 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:10:08 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP
In-Reply-To: <010401c5a8bf$d9c36b90$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKECKFIAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Did you SET NOCOUNT OFF before your final select?



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:24 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Executing a SP


How do I execute a SP to see the resulting data.

The SP is:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
-- Stored procedure that will select an existing row from the table
'WebNewsSource'
-- based on the Primary Key.
-- Gets: @ID int
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[upWebNewsSource_SelectOne]
	@ID int
AS
SET NOCOUNT ON
-- SELECT an existing row from the table.
SELECT
	[ID],
	[Source],
	[RSSURL],
	[RSSSelect],
	[RSSTitle],
	[RSSLink],
	[RSSDescription]
FROM [dbo].[WebNewsSource]
WHERE
	[ID] = @ID


GO

It is in database RSSFeeds
I am logged in and trying to use query analyzer to execute the SP but
obviously don't know how.

Thanks,

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From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 29 17:19:05 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:19:05 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 CTP
Message-ID: <BAY102-F2628C37C5DF0694F66B742E5AF0@phx.gbl>

Hello:

Has anyone looked at SQL Server 2005 CTP?
Any comments or experiences would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Billy




From ldoering at symphonyinfo.com  Mon Aug 29 17:20:50 2005
From: ldoering at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:20:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
Message-ID: <10508291720.AA51602@symphonyinfo.com>

I will be out of the office the week of August 29th.  I will not be checking messages during this time.  If you have any concerns, please call the office at 763.391.7400 and someone will be able to help you.

Thanks,


Liz Doering
Symphony Information Services
liz at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com
763-391-7400



From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 29 17:21:48 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:21:48 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 CTP
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F2628C37C5DF0694F66B742E5AF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F39C65627D17BDB48B6B04FE5AF0@phx.gbl>

I know that this may already be old news but below is link to those who are 
interested:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/productinfo/ctp.mspx

Billy


>From: "Billy Pang" <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 CTP
>Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:19:05 +0000
>
>Hello:
>
>Has anyone looked at SQL Server 2005 CTP?
>Any comments or experiences would be appreciated.
>Thanks,
>Billy
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
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From ridermark at gmail.com  Mon Aug 29 20:59:04 2005
From: ridermark at gmail.com (Mark Rider)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:59:04 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
In-Reply-To: <10508291720.AA51602@symphonyinfo.com>
References: <10508291720.AA51602@symphonyinfo.com>
Message-ID: <a74f317805082918593c4333f4@mail.gmail.com>

I have concerns that Liz doesn't know how to keep a list from getting these 
messages. 
Anyone think someone at the office would be able to turn them off if I 
called?

 On 8/29/05, Liz Doering <ldoering at symphonyinfo.com> wrote: 
> 
> I will be out of the office the week of August 29th. I will not be 
> checking messages during this time. If you have any concerns, please call 
> the office at 763.391.7400 and someone will be able to help you.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Liz Doering
> Symphony Information Services
> liz at symphonyinfo.com
> www.symphonyinfo.com <http://www.symphonyinfo.com>
> 763-391-7400
> 
>


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Aug 30 08:38:43 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:38:43 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
In-Reply-To: <a74f317805082918593c4333f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050830133900.LGWR27902.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Easier to just unsub her on her end until she's back.  

Susan H. 
r] automated response

I have concerns that Liz doesn't know how to keep a list from getting these
messages. 
Anyone think someone at the office would be able to turn them off if I
called?

 On 8/29/05, Liz Doering <ldoering at symphonyinfo.com> wrote: 
> 
> I will be out of the office the week of August 29th. I will not be 
> checking messages during this time. If you have any concerns, please 
> call the office at 763.391.7400 and someone will be able to help you.



From ridermark at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 09:04:15 2005
From: ridermark at gmail.com (Mark Rider)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:04:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
In-Reply-To: <20050830133900.LGWR27902.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <a74f317805082918593c4333f4@mail.gmail.com>
	<20050830133900.LGWR27902.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <a74f31780508300704552782e2@mail.gmail.com>

But that would indicate she was planning ahead!

On 8/30/05, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> Easier to just unsub her on her end until she's back.
> 

-- 
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Those who understand binary and those who don't.


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Aug 30 09:56:09 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:56:09 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
In-Reply-To: <a74f31780508300704552782e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050830145610.MIFC27902.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I meant, WE should unsub her. :) 

This list should have a moderator -- how about it moderator? Can you get
Bryan to unsub her until she returns?

Susan H. 

But that would indicate she was planning ahead!

On 8/30/05, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> Easier to just unsub her on her end until she's back.



From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Tue Aug 30 10:23:19 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:23:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC083268@dewey.Symphony.local>

I work across the hall from Liz and just unsubscribed her.  I'll let her
know to re-subscribe when she returns.  Not sure why the auto-reply
system is causing repeat messages on this list.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:11 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] automated response

I meant, WE should unsub her. :) 

This list should have a moderator -- how about it moderator? Can you get
Bryan to unsub her until she returns?

Susan H. 

But that would indicate she was planning ahead!

On 8/30/05, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> Easier to just unsub her on her end until she's back.

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From ridermark at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 11:17:11 2005
From: ridermark at gmail.com (Mark Rider)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:17:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC083268@dewey.Symphony.local>
References: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC083268@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <a74f317805083009174d32b215@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Steve!

On 8/30/05, Steve Capistrant <scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com> wrote: 
> 
> I work across the hall from Liz and just unsubscribed her. I'll let her
> know to re-subscribe when she returns. Not sure why the auto-reply
> system is causing repeat messages on this list.
> 
> Steve Capistrant
> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
> Symphony Information Services
> 7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
> Brooklyn Park, MN 55428
> 763-391-7400
> www.symphonyinfo.com <http://www.symphonyinfo.com>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
> Harkins
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
> 
> I meant, WE should unsub her. :)
> 
> This list should have a moderator -- how about it moderator? Can you get
> Bryan to unsub her until she returns?
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> But that would indicate she was planning ahead!
> 
> On 8/30/05, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > Easier to just unsub her on her end until she's back.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Those who understand binary and those who don't.


From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Aug 30 12:41:45 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:41:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Re: SQL Server 2005 CTP
In-Reply-To: <200508301700.j7UH0dR13110@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200508301700.j7UH0dR13110@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050830124006.028f9fe8@pop3.highstream.net>

Billy,

Much too general.

I have been using it and the previous one in testing
for a while.  So far, it has been working like a charm.
Like your question, my answer is much too general.  :-)

Robert

At 12:00 PM 8/30/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:19:05 +0000
>From: "Billy Pang" <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 CTP
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Message-ID: <BAY102-F2628C37C5DF0694F66B742E5AF0 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>Hello:
>
>Has anyone looked at SQL Server 2005 CTP?
>Any comments or experiences would be appreciated.
>Thanks,
>Billy




From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Aug 30 14:26:30 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:26:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SS7 and Active Directory
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A47C@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

We are getting ready to begin our migration from a Windows NT domain to a
Windows 2003 domain.
There are a million and one documents and links that talk about Exchange 5.5
existing with Active Directory but I can't seem to find anything pertaining
to SQL Server 7.

I don't know if this is because there is no concern or if it is because I
don't know where to look.
Anyone know of a link that provides information on this topic?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:42 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Re: SQL Server 2005 CTP

Billy,

Much too general.

I have been using it and the previous one in testing
for a while.  So far, it has been working like a charm.
Like your question, my answer is much too general.  :-)

Robert

At 12:00 PM 8/30/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:19:05 +0000
>From: "Billy Pang" <tuxedo_man at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 CTP
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Message-ID: <BAY102-F2628C37C5DF0694F66B742E5AF0 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>Hello:
>
>Has anyone looked at SQL Server 2005 CTP?
>Any comments or experiences would be appreciated.
>Thanks,
>Billy


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From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:12:57 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225F5F@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Francisco is this list's moderator, but I guess he's not around. Would you
like another moderator, for backup?

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: 30 August 2005 15:56
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] automated response


I meant, WE should unsub her. :) 

This list should have a moderator -- how about it moderator? Can you get
Bryan to unsub her until she returns?

Susan H. 

But that would indicate she was planning ahead!

On 8/30/05, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> Easier to just unsub her on her end until she's back.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Aug 31 09:04:24 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:04:24 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225F5F@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20050831140433.RCFB22439.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

No, it's been taken care of. :) 

Susan H. 

Francisco is this list's moderator, but I guess he's not around. Would you
like another moderator, for backup?




From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 10:58:34 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:58:34 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
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References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225F5F@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <b874372a0508310858437d2bcb@mail.gmail.com>

actually i read the reply on that she had been unsubbed, so did not
jump in anymore...

On 8/31/05, Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk> wrote:
> Francisco is this list's moderator, but I guess he's not around. Would you
> like another moderator, for backup?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: 30 August 2005 15:56
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] automated response
> 
> 
> I meant, WE should unsub her. :)
> 
> This list should have a moderator -- how about it moderator? Can you get
> Bryan to unsub her until she returns?
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> But that would indicate she was planning ahead!
> 
> On 8/30/05, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > Easier to just unsub her on her end until she's back.
> 
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