[dba-SQLServer] Transferring a database to another SQL Server

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Tue Aug 29 17:59:11 CDT 2006


Definitely not Franciso's fault... I never asked as I did not know that I
did not know until I knew.

Jim

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artful at rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:35 PM
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Methinks this is not the esteemed Francisco's fault 

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:43:13 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Transferring a database to another SQL Server

Fancisco: Now that would have been helpful about a month ago when it took a
week to migrate something that should have taken minutes.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:02 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Transferring a database to another SQL Server

In order to prevent orphaned users, MS put out a script called
sp_help_revlogin you create it in the master database, details are on
my blog,

http://sqlthis.blogspot.com/2006/01/migrating-logins-from-one-sql-server.htm
l

if you get lost from the links post back and I'll help you through it.


On 8/29/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> >The simple answer was given to him (JC) in the first post back to him.
> Which is why I never chimed in.
>
> >Detach it.
> >Copy it to the other machine.
> >Attach it.
>
> In fact that is only one of my two questions, but given my reception on
the
> other question I suppose I should just not ask again.
>
> In fact I have RTFM (in advance of even asking AAMOF) and I found stuff
> about disconnecting / reconnecting possibly causing "orphaned users", this
> being caused by the use of something like a PK from the OS user to
represent
> the user in the SQL Server login, and even though the user name is the
same
> on the two machines, the UserID is not necessarily the same.  It does make
> me a bit leery of going the disconnect route.
>
> I had hoped to get both machines seeing the other (SQL Servers) and then
see
> if I could just query directly out of a table in one SQL Server and
transfer
> the data into the same table (new/empty) in the other SQL Server.  I know
I
> can export the data to text files and then re-import back in, but given
the
> fact that the data is hundreds of gigabytes, I don't even want to go there
> if I can avoid it.
>
> Unfortunately I do not know enough about SQL Server / networking to
> troubleshoot the "why" of two servers not seeing each other, and given
that
> the list Gurus specifically want me to go become a SQL / Notwork DBA
before
> I ask such questions, it seems that I will get no assistance on that here.
>
> I have the database on 5 250gb drives, which I suppose I shall disconnect
> and then simply move the entire disks and pray for the best.
>
> There are other forums I belong to though, I'll also go see if anyone can
> help.  This is going to be a lot of data and eventually I will need
machines
> preprocessing and then shipping the results to a central server, so the
> servers really do eventually need to see each other I think.  It should be
> fun, and I should learn a lot, though perhaps not here.
>
> Thanks Stewart,
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
> Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:16 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Transferring a database to another SQL Server
>
> As to why we are all here, it is to learn and hopefully help when we KNOW
> the answer.
>
> The simple answer was given to him (JC) in the first post back to him.
> Which is why I never chimed in.
>
> Detach it.
> Copy it to the other machine.
> Attach it.
>
> KISS - Keep it Supremely Simple
>
> Always works for me.
>
> Robert
>
> At 08:40 AM 8/29/2006, you wrote:
> >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:17:25 +0930
> >From: "Haslett, Andrew" <andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au>
> >Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]
> >         [AccessD]TransferringadatabasetoanotherSQLServer
> >To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Message-ID:
> >
> ><0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2BE403C at adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"
> >
> >Suit yourselves - Seems to be a bit of a 'boys' club who are quite
> >happy to ask for advice but only accept it when its something they want
> >to hear, and ignore it otherwise (demonstrated throughout the post
> >below)
> >
> >The points I made in my post apply to anyone looking to undertake
> >similar issues, and will continue to happen until someone has the guts
> >to say it, irrelevant of who it is aimed at (which is how it should be
> >-> on a public forum, favour or protection should not be given to
> >anyone simply because they are friends, associates or seniority).
> >
> >Ask yourself this -> Would you have made the same post Jim, had it not
> >have been aimed at Mr Colby?.
> >
> >Stark realities occasionally need be surfaced in order for them to sink
> >in.. Irrespective of the target or consequences.  Was it harsh?
> >Yup.  Could it perhaps prevent someone else from making the same
> >mistakes and undertaking projects without due preparation and planning?
> >Hopefully, and therefore I believe useful.
> >
> >John asked Stuart "Why are you here then?".   Some of us prefer to
> >assist others, pass on what knowledge they can and in my case attempt
> >to 'help others, help themselves', as opposed to just feeding of
> >others.
> >
> >I know of a number who have left this (and the Access) list in the
> >past, including myself, for similar reasons and 'Matesmenship' in the
> >upper echelons.
> >
> >Please unsubscribe me from the list.
> >
> >Andrew
>
>
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