[dba-SQLServer] Upsize wizard and named queries

Francisco Tapia fhtapia at gmail.com
Thu Jan 26 01:32:39 CST 2006

I refrained from using ADPs as a development tool for SQL BEs, it appears
that ADPs will continue being supported in the sense that you can use OLEDB
connections directly to SQL Server.  nothing on the way I currently
develop... which is actually quite nice, I hope to have the sproc screen
clear of just all the sprocs as it is now,  it in reality should have only
displayed sprocs that the user had rights to...

On 1/25/06, John Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> >do you have a link?... as for the inline editing of the SPs, that does
> not
> affect me on my platform as I prefer QA than the ADP as sql dev tool.
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com/gazette/sqlexpress.htm
> Thinking about Access and SQL Server 2005
> Might I suggest: Plan to plan and test carefully too.
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/sql/
> http://www.tegels.org/qara/
> There's been an interesting thread on the SQL Server Newsgroups about this
> topic. A developer was trying to create an ADP to work against express and
> got this message:
> You have connected to a version of SQL Server later than SQL Server 2000.
> The version of Visual Studio or Access that you are using was released
> before the version of SQL Server to which you are connected. For this
> reason, you might encounter problems.
> Mary Chipman from Microsoft posted this response:Andy Baron and Mary
> Chipman
> You will not be able to use any of the designers with SQLS 2005 databases,
> whether it's SQL Express or the Developer edition. IOW, you won't be able
> to
> create databases, tables, views or any other database objects from an ADP.
> The only support that is envisioned is that you will be able to connect an
> Access front-end to a SQLS 2005 back end if it is running in SQLS 2000
> compatibility mode, so your forms, reports and other local Access objects
> should still run. There is no service pack or quick fix being planned as
> far
> as I know because of the amount of work it would entail. If you stop to
> think about it, it's pretty hard to see how accomodating new Yukon
> features
> like CLR assemblies and complex data types in the ADP designers could be
> achieved without a complete rewrite.
> That said, with Access 2003, I was able to connect up to an instance of
> 2005 (not in 2000 compatibility mode) and work with data with SQL2000
> compatible data types. I was also able to stick XML into an XML-typed (but
> not strongly-typed) column and have it work as expected.
> The bottom line here seems to be that ADPs aren't worth investing new work
> into today if you plan to go to SQL Server 2005 with them. However, my
> limited testing of Access 2003 as the Frontend and SQL Server 2005 as
> backend using linked tables seems to be okay. Time will tell, of course.
> microsoft.private.sqlserver2005.dataaccess
> http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp
> To amplify what Kent said, there are no plans for supporting designing SQL
> Server objects using Access ADPs either now or in the future. You can use
> Access to connect to a SQL Server 2005 database in 2000 compatibility
> mode,
> but there is no support for new 2005 functionality being planned. It is
> recommended that you use the client tools in SQL Server for creating new
> Server objects. There is also support in Whidbey for creating SQL Server
> objects.
> posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 2:03 PM
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:39 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Upsize wizard and named queries
> do you have a link?... as for the inline editing of the SPs, that does not
> affect me on my platform as I prefer QA than the ADP as sql dev tool.
> On 1/25/06, John Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> > MS has plainly stated that ADPs will not be supported (at least in the
> > same
> > way) in future versions of Access.  They don't break but the inbuilt
> > editing of SPs etc go away.
> >
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
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