From fhtapia at gmail.com  Sat Sep  2 01:10:20 2006
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 23:10:20 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question
In-Reply-To: <000301c6c523$6ccd5100$2732fad1@SUSANONE>
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what the heck are you still doing on dialup?  what dreadful place are
you at? :)

On 8/21/06, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at setel.com> wrote:
> Thank you - -- that'll be useful.
>
> Susan H.
>
> You can always access it online at MSDN..  ;=)
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms130214.aspx
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From ssharkins at setel.com  Sat Sep  2 09:58:23 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 10:58:23 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0609012310j7d130351p25ee71eec44bca2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000501c6cea0$3e1c0230$1ebc2ad1@SUSANONE>

It's a dreadful story. We live in rural Kentucky. Cable and dsl stopped up
the street for a long time. Finally, dsl was available via bellsouth and we
signed on. BIG MISTAKE!!!!!!!! They cancelled my dialup, which I didn't ask
them to do, and then when I used my dialup instead of dsl, they charged me
an extra $20 a month for the privlege. I called and complained and the guy
kept telling me that I upgraded, so that meant I didn't have dialup and I
said, no, I never cancelled my $4 a month dialup so they could ding me $20
instead -- finally, he said, (and I'm not kidding) - "Lady, you ordered it,
you're paying for it." Well, no, I didn't order their emergency dialup and I
didn't want it -- I already had my own dialup. But, they simply usurped it
and he actually told me I couldn't have my own dialup with dsl -- which is
total nonsense. 

I was lucky to find a new phone and dsl carrier within a few weeks and I
cancelled all of my bellsouth services -- which were running about $170 a
month -- and I'm paying about half that now. The only problem is, now dsl
won't work. The new service has checked the lines outside and they say it
must be inside or the modem, which is one that they sent me and it's brand
new. If I were of a conspiracy mind, I'd say bellsouth is doing something to
interfer with the lines, because the coincidence is just so ...
coincidential. :)  And of course, because I HATE BELLSOUTH so much. Their
customer service is really a form of torture.  

Trying to fix it was just consuming too much of my time. I already have
filters on all the phone lines -- and the modem's the one the new service
sent me, so the only option left is to let them come inside and test my
lines inside, which cost almost $200 -- I don't want dsl that bad. 

Susan H. 

what the heck are you still doing on dialup?  what dreadful place are you
at? :)

On 8/21/06, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at setel.com> wrote:
> Thank you - -- that'll be useful.
>
> Susan H.
>
> You can always access it online at MSDN..  ;=)
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms130214.aspx
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Sep  2 11:19:20 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 12:19:20 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question
In-Reply-To: <000501c6cea0$3e1c0230$1ebc2ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <007e01c6ceab$8c684150$657aa8c0@m6805>

Susan,

If the DSL company checked the service to the outside of your house then it
isn't BellSouth.  If they blocked the signal it would have to be somewhere
outside of your house.  Ask for a new modem, they do break / can be
defective.  Don't they have an "install" service?  My cable people wouldn't
let me NOT have them install the service and the "install" was about $40.
That would get the guy inside your house, installing the modem.  If it fails
he will throw his tester on it to see if he has signal to the modem (which
is almost certain).  BTW, the point of the "phone filter" is to filter out
the buzz caused by the DSL signal.  You can't run the DSL modem BEHIND
(downstream of) such a filter.  If you are putting the modem behind a
filter, that will cause the modem to "not work". 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:58 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question

It's a dreadful story. We live in rural Kentucky. Cable and dsl stopped up
the street for a long time. Finally, dsl was available via bellsouth and we
signed on. BIG MISTAKE!!!!!!!! They cancelled my dialup, which I didn't ask
them to do, and then when I used my dialup instead of dsl, they charged me
an extra $20 a month for the privlege. I called and complained and the guy
kept telling me that I upgraded, so that meant I didn't have dialup and I
said, no, I never cancelled my $4 a month dialup so they could ding me $20
instead -- finally, he said, (and I'm not kidding) - "Lady, you ordered it,
you're paying for it." Well, no, I didn't order their emergency dialup and I
didn't want it -- I already had my own dialup. But, they simply usurped it
and he actually told me I couldn't have my own dialup with dsl -- which is
total nonsense. 

I was lucky to find a new phone and dsl carrier within a few weeks and I
cancelled all of my bellsouth services -- which were running about $170 a
month -- and I'm paying about half that now. The only problem is, now dsl
won't work. The new service has checked the lines outside and they say it
must be inside or the modem, which is one that they sent me and it's brand
new. If I were of a conspiracy mind, I'd say bellsouth is doing something to
interfer with the lines, because the coincidence is just so ...
coincidential. :)  And of course, because I HATE BELLSOUTH so much. Their
customer service is really a form of torture.  

Trying to fix it was just consuming too much of my time. I already have
filters on all the phone lines -- and the modem's the one the new service
sent me, so the only option left is to let them come inside and test my
lines inside, which cost almost $200 -- I don't want dsl that bad. 

Susan H. 

what the heck are you still doing on dialup?  what dreadful place are you
at? :)

On 8/21/06, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at setel.com> wrote:
> Thank you - -- that'll be useful.
>
> Susan H.
>
> You can always access it online at MSDN..  ;=)
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms130214.aspx
>
>
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> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
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From ssharkins at setel.com  Sat Sep  2 11:30:21 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 12:30:21 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6ceab$8c684150$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <000601c6cead$1669e2e0$bc32fad1@SUSANONE>

 

If the DSL company checked the service to the outside of your house then it
isn't BellSouth. 

===Well, thanks, and I was really enjoying that little scenario... ;) 

 BTW, the point of the "phone filter" is to filter out the buzz caused by
the DSL signal.  You can't run the DSL modem BEHIND (downstream of) such a
filter.  If you are putting the modem behind a filter, that will cause the
modem to "not work". 

===Within this context <g>, please define behind. First, there's no phone
connected to the same outlet as the dsl modem, so there's no filter behind
or in front of the modem period. However, I do of course have other phones
in the house and those have phone filters. It's interesting because the dsl
worked for a while and then stopped. The connection's there, I just can't do
anything with it. The tech support told me I couldn't have a cordless phone
through the same outlet as the modem, so I took the phone out completely. It
worked fine again for a few weeks, then the same symptoms, but there's no
phone to unhook this time. 

Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Sep  2 15:03:26 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 13:03:26 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question
In-Reply-To: <000501c6cea0$3e1c0230$1ebc2ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <0J4Z001IAECJHXM1@l-daemon>

That is a terrible story. :-( Such a rude and arrogant bunch... The free
market systems seems to have failing apart in your area.  

Here is the wilds of Canada there is little chance for free-enterprise
competition so the first supplier past the gate wins it all. The only
check-and-balance for a society of monopolies is strict government
regulations and the one regulation that worked was the one that forced the
high-speed internet provider to extend their services to virtually every
town and village charging only a standard rate. (There are now 2 providers
now but that is another story.)

Get political Susan; you could start by posting a similar article to your
local newspaper, congressman etc. Believe me it does work and with your
writing skills...

Jim     

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 7:58 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question

It's a dreadful story. We live in rural Kentucky. Cable and dsl stopped up
the street for a long time. Finally, dsl was available via bellsouth and we
signed on. BIG MISTAKE!!!!!!!! They cancelled my dialup, which I didn't ask
them to do, and then when I used my dialup instead of dsl, they charged me
an extra $20 a month for the privlege. I called and complained and the guy
kept telling me that I upgraded, so that meant I didn't have dialup and I
said, no, I never cancelled my $4 a month dialup so they could ding me $20
instead -- finally, he said, (and I'm not kidding) - "Lady, you ordered it,
you're paying for it." Well, no, I didn't order their emergency dialup and I
didn't want it -- I already had my own dialup. But, they simply usurped it
and he actually told me I couldn't have my own dialup with dsl -- which is
total nonsense. 

I was lucky to find a new phone and dsl carrier within a few weeks and I
cancelled all of my bellsouth services -- which were running about $170 a
month -- and I'm paying about half that now. The only problem is, now dsl
won't work. The new service has checked the lines outside and they say it
must be inside or the modem, which is one that they sent me and it's brand
new. If I were of a conspiracy mind, I'd say bellsouth is doing something to
interfer with the lines, because the coincidence is just so ...
coincidential. :)  And of course, because I HATE BELLSOUTH so much. Their
customer service is really a form of torture.  

Trying to fix it was just consuming too much of my time. I already have
filters on all the phone lines -- and the modem's the one the new service
sent me, so the only option left is to let them come inside and test my
lines inside, which cost almost $200 -- I don't want dsl that bad. 

Susan H. 

what the heck are you still doing on dialup?  what dreadful place are you
at? :)

On 8/21/06, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at setel.com> wrote:
> Thank you - -- that'll be useful.
>
> Susan H.
>
> You can always access it online at MSDN..  ;=)
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms130214.aspx
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
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>
>


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From ssharkins at setel.com  Sat Sep  2 16:25:14 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 17:25:14 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question
In-Reply-To: <0J4Z001IAECJHXM1@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000901c6ced6$486c0600$6fb82ad1@SUSANONE>

 

Get political Susan; you could start by posting a similar article to your
local newspaper, congressman etc. Believe me it does work and with your
writing skills...

===I'm sure they have me on tape hollering, because I got really mad...
That's something I'd rather not make public. :) 

Susan H. 



From mikedorism at verizon.net  Sun Sep  3 08:29:03 2006
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:29:03 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question
In-Reply-To: <000601c6cead$1669e2e0$bc32fad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <001001c6cf5c$ed666750$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>

Susan,

<snip> It's interesting because the DSL worked for a while and then stopped.
The connection's there, I just can't do anything with it. The tech support
told me I couldn't have a cordless phone through the same outlet as the
modem, so I took the phone out completely. It worked fine again for a few
weeks, then the same symptoms, but there's no phone to unhook this time.
<snip>

I use Verizon DSL that also uses phone filters.  The first modem that they
sent me had a similar problem.  It could see the connection but it couldn't
pass it to the computer.  They sent me another modem and everything was fine
so it definitely sounds like a modem issue.

The part about not having a cordless phone through the same outlet as the
modem is total crap.  There is no phone outlet in my office so I have a
splitter on the outlet at the edge of the kitchen.  I've got a filter
attached to one side of the splitter with a cordless phone on the other end
and have never had any problems with DSL or the phone.

Doris Manning
mikedorism at verizon.net




From ssharkins at setel.com  Sun Sep  3 08:48:49 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:48:49 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question
In-Reply-To: <001001c6cf5c$ed666750$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>
Message-ID: <000201c6cf5f$afd51d20$be32fad1@SUSANONE>

I use Verizon DSL that also uses phone filters.  The first modem that they
sent me had a similar problem.  It could see the connection but it couldn't
pass it to the computer.  They sent me another modem and everything was fine
so it definitely sounds like a modem issue.

The part about not having a cordless phone through the same outlet as the
modem is total crap.  There is no phone outlet in my office so I have a
splitter on the outlet at the edge of the kitchen.  I've got a filter
attached to one side of the splitter with a cordless phone on the other end
and have never had any problems with DSL or the phone.

==========Well, both points are good to know. :) I'll check into the modem
issue and see what happens. Thanks! I didn't believe the phone thing as
well, but after unplugging the phone, the dsl did work for a few weeks. When
we had the dsl, I often heard a click in the phone line when trying to talk
-- it was very annoying. I have filters on all the phones though. 

Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Sep  3 12:49:08 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:49:08 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question
In-Reply-To: <000201c6cf5f$afd51d20$be32fad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <0J51001HT2SKXL30@l-daemon>

A friend in the phone business said the following:

In order to get more phones and DSL connection in an area, without having to
add more lines, phone (...and cable too) companies insert compressors and
amplifiers on the lines. This process only works to a point but finally the
connection degrades to a position where the signals start dropping. By
putting in a higher quality modem that can compensates for the line
degradation can resolve the internet issues. But when this is necessary the
whole system, including phones have become extremely unstable.

That is why your phones are not working and the modem, that use to work now
does not. That is why the phone company, that shall not be named,
arbitrarily removed your other internet connection when you were upgraded,
just to give them some breathing room. They are over-booking installations
before the supporting hardware is in place. 

All this is because of poor planning, being super cheap and never wanting
admit it is their fault... as they would then be legally on the hook to
upgrade them selves and compensate their customers... and that is never
going to happen.

There is simply not enough signal strength on the line to your house and
your provider wants you to pay for upgrading their infrastructure.

HTH
Jim

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From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 6:49 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] sp_configure question

I use Verizon DSL that also uses phone filters.  The first modem that they
sent me had a similar problem.  It could see the connection but it couldn't
pass it to the computer.  They sent me another modem and everything was fine
so it definitely sounds like a modem issue.

The part about not having a cordless phone through the same outlet as the
modem is total crap.  There is no phone outlet in my office so I have a
splitter on the outlet at the edge of the kitchen.  I've got a filter
attached to one side of the splitter with a cordless phone on the other end
and have never had any problems with DSL or the phone.

==========Well, both points are good to know. :) I'll check into the modem
issue and see what happens. Thanks! I didn't believe the phone thing as
well, but after unplugging the phone, the dsl did work for a few weeks. When
we had the dsl, I often heard a click in the phone line when trying to talk
-- it was very annoying. I have filters on all the phones though. 

Susan H. 

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From darrend at nimble.com.au  Sun Sep  3 17:08:54 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:08:54 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services - Dynamically loading an image
Message-ID: <20060903220908.XZVV8871.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>

Hi all
 
In access there is a dot picture property for an Image control
 
Eg Me.SomeImage.Picture = C:\SomeCoolPic.jpg
 
Is there a similar property for an Image control using Reporting Services?
 
many thanks
 
DD
 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Sep  7 21:47:16 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 22:47:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] How does it work
Message-ID: <007b01c6d2f1$1a291890$657aa8c0@m6805>

I have now successfully created a Raid5 on my new server.  For the moment it
is a 4 disk array using 320g drives for a total size (available) of around
900g.  I will be adding another pair, one of which will be a hot spare,
which will bump it to 1.2g available and one drive just sitting there for
(automatic) use in a failure.  
 
My question now is, if I place all of the SQL Server database files (not the
program files, but the database files FOR SQL SERVER) as well as the actual
files for the various databases and their logs, if I place all that stuff
out on this mongo raid drive, and then my boot drive dies... can SQL Server
be installed to use an existing set of files?
 
I actually have one more SATA connector which I intend to use to copy an
image of the boot drive once a week or so (maybe even nightly), so that if
the boot drive dies I should be able to get back up with a minimum of pain.
For that I will need Ghost or something similar running as a scheduled task.
 
And then of course there is the issue of "what happens if the house burns
down".  How do you conveniently back up a large db offsite?  Or in a fire
safe?  I actually read about a rather expensive 
 
A while back I actually purchased this SQL Server backup program called
Imceda Litespeed (now sold I believe) which does a great job of backing up
large databases, compacting on the way out.  I am thinking about setting up
a small machine down in the basement at the far end of the house, on the
other end of a 1gbit line, and have Litespeed place the backup file on hard
disks on that machine.  Even at 10:1 compression which it seems to do, an
800gb database turns into an 80gb backup file.  Over a 1gbit line that will
take an hour to copy the backup file.
 
If you folks do this kind of stuff how about starting a discussion of how
you handle it.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 

From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Sep  8 07:29:13 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:29:13 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] How does it work
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDD91@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Hi John,

Did you use RAID5 because you were restricted by the number of drives or
the RAID controller?
I ask because for databases, a RAID 1+0 or RAID 0+1 (aka RAID10) would,
typically, be better suited.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

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From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:47 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; 'Access Developers discussion
and problem solving'
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] How does it work

I have now successfully created a Raid5 on my new server.  For the
moment it
is a 4 disk array using 320g drives for a total size (available) of
around
900g.  I will be adding another pair, one of which will be a hot spare,
which will bump it to 1.2g available and one drive just sitting there
for
(automatic) use in a failure.  
 
My question now is, if I place all of the SQL Server database files (not
the
program files, but the database files FOR SQL SERVER) as well as the
actual
files for the various databases and their logs, if I place all that
stuff
out on this mongo raid drive, and then my boot drive dies... can SQL
Server
be installed to use an existing set of files?
 
I actually have one more SATA connector which I intend to use to copy an
image of the boot drive once a week or so (maybe even nightly), so that
if
the boot drive dies I should be able to get back up with a minimum of
pain.
For that I will need Ghost or something similar running as a scheduled
task.
 
And then of course there is the issue of "what happens if the house
burns
down".  How do you conveniently back up a large db offsite?  Or in a
fire
safe?  I actually read about a rather expensive 
 
A while back I actually purchased this SQL Server backup program called
Imceda Litespeed (now sold I believe) which does a great job of backing
up
large databases, compacting on the way out.  I am thinking about setting
up
a small machine down in the basement at the far end of the house, on the
other end of a 1gbit line, and have Litespeed place the backup file on
hard
disks on that machine.  Even at 10:1 compression which it seems to do,
an
800gb database turns into an 80gb backup file.  Over a 1gbit line that
will
take an hour to copy the backup file.
 
If you folks do this kind of stuff how about starting a discussion of
how
you handle it.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Sep  8 13:23:05 2006
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:23:05 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] How does it work
In-Reply-To: <007b01c6d2f1$1a291890$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <007b01c6d2f1$1a291890$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a0609081123y74a224a2h1ea0c93081db5fb1@mail.gmail.com>

If the raid 5 is a software raid you will need to recreate it from the
OS which you say you are backing up.  Personally I would use Acronis
for the backups it seems to do a much better and reliable job than
ghost (ymmv).  IF the raid is a hardware raid then you do not really
stand to loose it you just point the OS to the logical drive and you
are off and running.

My current db backups have not yet reached a number like yours, I
backup to a local drive and have that get backed up to tape, then
again to another system as a zip file.

On 9/7/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I have now successfully created a Raid5 on my new server.  For the moment it
> is a 4 disk array using 320g drives for a total size (available) of around
> 900g.  I will be adding another pair, one of which will be a hot spare,
> which will bump it to 1.2g available and one drive just sitting there for
> (automatic) use in a failure.
>
> My question now is, if I place all of the SQL Server database files (not the
> program files, but the database files FOR SQL SERVER) as well as the actual
> files for the various databases and their logs, if I place all that stuff
> out on this mongo raid drive, and then my boot drive dies... can SQL Server
> be installed to use an existing set of files?
>
> I actually have one more SATA connector which I intend to use to copy an
> image of the boot drive once a week or so (maybe even nightly), so that if
> the boot drive dies I should be able to get back up with a minimum of pain.
> For that I will need Ghost or something similar running as a scheduled task.
>
> And then of course there is the issue of "what happens if the house burns
> down".  How do you conveniently back up a large db offsite?  Or in a fire
> safe?  I actually read about a rather expensive
>
> A while back I actually purchased this SQL Server backup program called
> Imceda Litespeed (now sold I believe) which does a great job of backing up
> large databases, compacting on the way out.  I am thinking about setting up
> a small machine down in the basement at the far end of the house, on the
> other end of a 1gbit line, and have Litespeed place the backup file on hard
> disks on that machine.  Even at 10:1 compression which it seems to do, an
> 800gb database turns into an 80gb backup file.  Over a 1gbit line that will
> take an hour to copy the backup file.
>
> If you folks do this kind of stuff how about starting a discussion of how
> you handle it.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Sep  9 16:56:41 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:56:41 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Import wizard puts data in wrong table
In-Reply-To: <001401c6cd06$80a4a710$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <000301c6d45a$d614cb70$657aa8c0@m6805>

I am using the import wizard to pull text files into SQL Server.  Even
though the wizard very clearly shows that the destination is to be
[dbo].[etc].[conduit] it ends up creating [dbo].[etc].[conduit005] or
[dbo].[etc].[conduit006] etc.  Not all of the time, the first 4 times worked
perfectly but then I end up with the ...005] table.  

Any ideas why, ever seen this etc?

Now I have a ...005] which has no field names [field1], [field2] etc.  All
the data is in the table etc, but no field names because the origin text
files did not have the header row.

Is there any (simple) way to get this appended to the correct table.  This
table has ~400 rows so manually building an append query manually editing
(aliasing) the field names to match is not an option.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Sep 10 08:37:28 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 06:37:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Import wizard puts data in wrong table
In-Reply-To: <000301c6d45a$d614cb70$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <20060910133728.98748.qmail@web88211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm not sure what is going wrong with your wizard, but you can always try downloading a cool program called dbScripter, which can produce insert scripts for any table. It would be a very simple edit (using a capable text editor such as NoteTab) to fix the resulting script so it works correctly. Both dbScripter and NoteTab are downloadable for free (the former is a trial, the latter has both an entirely free version and a professional version).

----- Original Message ----
From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2006 5:56:41 PM
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Import wizard puts data in wrong table

I am using the import wizard to pull text files into SQL Server.  Even
though the wizard very clearly shows that the destination is to be
[dbo].[etc].[conduit] it ends up creating [dbo].[etc].[conduit005] or
[dbo].[etc].[conduit006] etc.  Not all of the time, the first 4 times worked
perfectly but then I end up with the ...005] table.  

Any ideas why, ever seen this etc?

Now I have a ...005] which has no field names [field1], [field2] etc.  All
the data is in the table etc, but no field names because the origin text
files did not have the header row.

Is there any (simple) way to get this appended to the correct table.  This
table has ~400 rows so manually building an append query manually editing
(aliasing) the field names to match is not an option.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Sep 12 12:30:41 2006
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:30:41 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services - Dynamically loading an
	image
In-Reply-To: <20060903220908.XZVV8871.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>
References: <20060903220908.XZVV8871.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>
Message-ID: <b874372a0609121030m1ced0a61lb48700210a8fe0ac@mail.gmail.com>

Darren, I Remember seeing this before I Just don't remember it OTOMH,
but it's not .Picture,

On 9/3/06, Darren DICK <darrend at nimble.com.au> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> In access there is a dot picture property for an Image control
>
> Eg Me.SomeImage.Picture = C:\SomeCoolPic.jpg
>
> Is there a similar property for an Image control using Reporting Services?
>
> many thanks
>
> DD
>
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Mon Sep 18 15:29:01 2006
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:29:01 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Import error
In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2BE3980@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
Message-ID: <96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DD@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

 

Would anybody know why I would get the following error when trying to
import some records from one table to another in the same database.  I
am using SQL 2005.

Cannot create an OLE DB accessor. Verify that the column metadata is
valid. 


Thanks,

Mike Gowey  MCP, MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - SouthEast Region
Information Systems Unit


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Mon Sep 18 15:31:52 2006
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:31:52 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Import error
In-Reply-To: <96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DD@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
References: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2BE3980@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
	<96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DD@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <b874372a0609181331g159bb056j6b6d9cf6dc52d5a4@mail.gmail.com>

what is the command you are using?

On 9/18/06, Gowey Mike W <Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us> wrote:
>
>
> Would anybody know why I would get the following error when trying to
> import some records from one table to another in the same database.  I
> am using SQL 2005.
>
> Cannot create an OLE DB accessor. Verify that the column metadata is
> valid.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Gowey  MCP, MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
> Team Leader - SouthEast Region
> Information Systems Unit
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Mon Sep 18 15:34:11 2006
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:34:11 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Import error
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0609181331g159bb056j6b6d9cf6dc52d5a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DE@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>


I just created a package using the SSIS Import\Export Wizard. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Francisco Tapia
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:32 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Import error

what is the command you are using?

On 9/18/06, Gowey Mike W <Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us> wrote:
>
>
> Would anybody know why I would get the following error when trying to 
> import some records from one table to another in the same database.  I

> am using SQL 2005.
>
> Cannot create an OLE DB accessor. Verify that the column metadata is 
> valid.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Gowey  MCP, MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
> Team Leader - SouthEast Region
> Information Systems Unit
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Mon Sep 18 15:53:49 2006
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:53:49 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Import error
In-Reply-To: <96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DE@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DF@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

This is the full error that it gives in the debug window:

[Destination - tblInventory [193]] Error: An OLE DB error has occurred.
Error code: 0x80040E21. An OLE DB record is available.  Source:
"Microsoft SQL Native Client"  Hresult: 0x80040E21  Description:
"Multiple-step OLE DB operation generated errors. Check each OLE DB
status value, if available. No work was done.". 
[Destination - tblInventory [193]] Error: Cannot create an OLE DB
accessor. Verify that the column metadata is valid. 
[DTS.Pipeline] Error: component "Destination - tblInventory" (193)
failed the pre-execute phase and returned error code 0xC0202025. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey
Mike W
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:34 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Import error


I just created a package using the SSIS Import\Export Wizard. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Francisco Tapia
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:32 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Import error

what is the command you are using?

On 9/18/06, Gowey Mike W <Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us> wrote:
>
>
> Would anybody know why I would get the following error when trying to 
> import some records from one table to another in the same database.  I

> am using SQL 2005.
>
> Cannot create an OLE DB accessor. Verify that the column metadata is 
> valid.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Gowey  MCP, MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
> Team Leader - SouthEast Region
> Information Systems Unit
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Mon Sep 18 16:06:10 2006
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:06:10 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Import error
In-Reply-To: <96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DF@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
References: <96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DE@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
	<96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DF@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <b874372a0609181406y247f8160y2b8436b838efe743@mail.gmail.com>

I have to start up my 2005 system to find out why you are receiving
this problem.

On 9/18/06, Gowey Mike W <Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us> wrote:
> This is the full error that it gives in the debug window:
>
> [Destination - tblInventory [193]] Error: An OLE DB error has occurred.
> Error code: 0x80040E21. An OLE DB record is available.  Source:
> "Microsoft SQL Native Client"  Hresult: 0x80040E21  Description:
> "Multiple-step OLE DB operation generated errors. Check each OLE DB
> status value, if available. No work was done.".
> [Destination - tblInventory [193]] Error: Cannot create an OLE DB
> accessor. Verify that the column metadata is valid.
> [DTS.Pipeline] Error: component "Destination - tblInventory" (193)
> failed the pre-execute phase and returned error code 0xC0202025.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey
> Mike W
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:34 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Import error
>
>
> I just created a package using the SSIS Import\Export Wizard.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:32 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Import error
>
> what is the command you are using?
>
> On 9/18/06, Gowey Mike W <Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Would anybody know why I would get the following error when trying to
> > import some records from one table to another in the same database.  I
>
> > am using SQL 2005.
> >
> > Cannot create an OLE DB accessor. Verify that the column metadata is
> > valid.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike Gowey  MCP, MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
> > Team Leader - SouthEast Region
> > Information Systems Unit
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> -Francisco
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Sep 19 07:31:55 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:31:55 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] What happens when
Message-ID: <004d01c6dbe7$98ce40e0$657aa8c0@m6805>

I am running a process to build an indexedPK on a table.  The database was
set to bulk logged because I was doing massive data imports and forgot to
switch back.  Sigh.  The data file ran out of room.  Double sigh.  EM is
locked up tight.  Is this just going to sit there forever, or is there a
graceful way to say "stop it and let me have control again"?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From artful at rogers.com  Tue Sep 19 10:13:53 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:13:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] What happens when
In-Reply-To: <004d01c6dbe7$98ce40e0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <20060919151353.96382.qmail@web88202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Your system tray should have an icon that looks vaguely like a server with a green arrow indicating that it's running. Double-click that and see if you the SQL dialog appears. If not, then I think you have no choice but either to reboot or kill the process itself and start over.

Given the size of the databases you're working with, Oracle might be a better choice since it offers tablespaces (which allow you to partitition a table and place chunks on various drives and servers). But perhaps you can't go there. I sure wish MS-SQL offered that feature. The last gig I worked on had 8 databases and the growth rate was expected to be a TB per year. Oracle would have let us do it all in one DB, with tablespaces pointing to the 8 servers, but since it was an Accenture gig, MS-SQL was the DB. Good thing too, since my Oracle skills are substantially behind my MS skills.

Anyway, there should be no need to run the process you are talking about. Just mark the column(s) PK and that's that. SQL will build the index automatically. You could in theory create a new index containing the same key(s), but what for? What's wrong with the one SQL creates for you?

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:31:55 AM
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] What happens when

I am running a process to build an indexedPK on a table.  The database was
set to bulk logged because I was doing massive data imports and forgot to
switch back.  Sigh.  The data file ran out of room.  Double sigh.  EM is
locked up tight.  Is this just going to sit there forever, or is there a
graceful way to say "stop it and let me have control again"?
 





From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Sep 19 10:56:25 2006
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:56:25 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] What happens when
In-Reply-To: <20060919151353.96382.qmail@web88202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <004d01c6dbe7$98ce40e0$657aa8c0@m6805>
	<20060919151353.96382.qmail@web88202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a0609190856t42b845fu662e5d62898b769b@mail.gmail.com>

I'd agree, I had one of my staging servers run out of room last
weekend and was lucky to be able to clean out some space.  Because of
the data your pushing you may want to consider better hardware to help
keep up with the demand for the data.

IIRC last time we spoke you were running Raid 0? for these data files?



On 9/19/06, artful at rogers.com <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> Your system tray should have an icon that looks vaguely like a server with a green arrow indicating that it's running. Double-click that and see if you the SQL dialog appears. If not, then I think you have no choice but either to reboot or kill the process itself and start over.
>
> Given the size of the databases you're working with, Oracle might be a better choice since it offers tablespaces (which allow you to partitition a table and place chunks on various drives and servers). But perhaps you can't go there. I sure wish MS-SQL offered that feature. The last gig I worked on had 8 databases and the growth rate was expected to be a TB per year. Oracle would have let us do it all in one DB, with tablespaces pointing to the 8 servers, but since it was an Accenture gig, MS-SQL was the DB. Good thing too, since my Oracle skills are substantially behind my MS skills.
>
> Anyway, there should be no need to run the process you are talking about. Just mark the column(s) PK and that's that. SQL will build the index automatically. You could in theory create a new index containing the same key(s), but what for? What's wrong with the one SQL creates for you?
>
> Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:31:55 AM
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] What happens when
>
> I am running a process to build an indexedPK on a table.  The database was
> set to bulk logged because I was doing massive data imports and forgot to
> switch back.  Sigh.  The data file ran out of room.  Double sigh.  EM is
> locked up tight.  Is this just going to sit there forever, or is there a
> graceful way to say "stop it and let me have control again"?
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Tue Sep 19 11:02:37 2006
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:02:37 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Import error
In-Reply-To: <96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12DD@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <96190DA9E0A10A4CB36E4B71367E55C14D12EB@srcimail1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

 

Hi everyone,

I have aquestion on an error I am receiving when I try to import some
data from one table to another within the same database.  I am using
Integration Services and created a SSIS package using the import/export
wizard.  The package goes the the validation process fine with no
problems, but when I execute the package to import the data into the
table I get the following error in the progress window and nothing will
import.  I can't seem to get by it.


[Destination - tblInventory [193]] Error: An OLE DB error has occurred.
Error code: 0x80040E21. An OLE DB record is available.  Source:
"Microsoft SQL Native Client"  Hresult: 0x80040E21  Description:
"Multiple-step OLE DB operation generated errors. Check each OLE DB
status value, if available. No work was done.". 

[Destination - tblInventory [193]] Error: Cannot create an OLE DB
accessor. Verify that the column metadata is valid. 

[DTS.Pipeline] Error: component "Destination - tblInventory" (193)
failed the pre-execute phase and returned error code 0xC0202025. 


Anybody have any ideas on how to get by this.

Thanks in advance.


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Sep 19 11:31:46 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:31:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] What happens when
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0609190856t42b845fu662e5d62898b769b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005f01c6dc09$1a639cb0$657aa8c0@m6805>

In fact I was trying to run a raid 5 directly on the motherboard raid, using
(4) 320 g hard drives.  LOL, boy does THAT suck.  The write speed for a 4
disk array was about 5 mbytes / sec.  Why bother offering it?  

So I am searching for a raid controller "in my price range".  I have pretty
much narrowed the choice down to the PROMISE SuperTrak EX8350 - 

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16816102076

Or the Areca ARC-1220

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16816131004

Both are some serious money for me - who'd think a raid card would cost
twice or three times the motherboard?  Economies of scale I guess.  

I would bite the bullet and get the Areca which is pretty seriously fast,
particularly on the upper end of the disk load scale, but they apparently
have some compatibility issues with motherboards.  I can't find that they
have ever tested it on the NVIDIA 5x motherboard chip sets.  Promise OTOH
seems to have tested it with that chipset as well as the 750gb version of
the Seagate disk I am using (I'm using the 320gb drives cause they are
seriously cheap right now).

In the meantime the raid 5 speed sucked so bad I went back to two mirrored
320 gb drives and therein came the problem.  Suddenly everything is fast but
no (physical) room for error.

At any rate, I cannot get the SQL Server process to stop.  I have stopped
the server, even rebooted, but when I come back up and go into EM, as soon
as I click the database icon EM locks back up again.  I don't know what to
do here.  8-(  The drive is full, it is never going to write any more info
out there, but apparently it isn't ever going to figure out that it is
locked up either.

Speaking of which... Answer me this...

I built a utility in Access to open the 10 gb raw text files, strip out all
the "padding".  The data was comma delimited, but then inside the quotes,
the data was padded to a fixed width.  So I stripped out all the padding,
then wrote it back out again.  This reduced the files from 10g to ~6.5 gig,
so you can see there was some significant padding going on.

Next I imported all the data.  Having done that I tried to add an autonumber
(4 byte) PK which is where the hang-up came in.  The original data was
~100gb, and the processing of adding a new 4 byte field and indexing it
pushed the data file size up over 300gb.  How is that possible?  This is not
the log file I am talking about, the log file is on another drive.  It seems
that adding an indexed 32 bit field would be a fairly trivial operation,
even given the 65 million records it is dealing with.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:56 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What happens when

I'd agree, I had one of my staging servers run out of room last weekend and
was lucky to be able to clean out some space.  Because of the data your
pushing you may want to consider better hardware to help keep up with the
demand for the data.

IIRC last time we spoke you were running Raid 0? for these data files?



On 9/19/06, artful at rogers.com <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> Your system tray should have an icon that looks vaguely like a server with
a green arrow indicating that it's running. Double-click that and see if you
the SQL dialog appears. If not, then I think you have no choice but either
to reboot or kill the process itself and start over.
>
> Given the size of the databases you're working with, Oracle might be a
better choice since it offers tablespaces (which allow you to partitition a
table and place chunks on various drives and servers). But perhaps you can't
go there. I sure wish MS-SQL offered that feature. The last gig I worked on
had 8 databases and the growth rate was expected to be a TB per year. Oracle
would have let us do it all in one DB, with tablespaces pointing to the 8
servers, but since it was an Accenture gig, MS-SQL was the DB. Good thing
too, since my Oracle skills are substantially behind my MS skills.
>
> Anyway, there should be no need to run the process you are talking about.
Just mark the column(s) PK and that's that. SQL will build the index
automatically. You could in theory create a new index containing the same
key(s), but what for? What's wrong with the one SQL creates for you?
>
> Arthur



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Sep 20 20:46:22 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:46:22 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server File locations and speed
Message-ID: <003d01c6dd1f$bf32a5d0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Does anyone have any insight on the pros and cons of using a (fast) Raid5 as
one big partition which holds the database data files as well as the log
files, vs breaking a single raid5 array down into partitions and placing the
log files on one partition and the data files on another, vs building two
raid arrays and placing the data files on one raid array and the log files
on another.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Sep 20 22:40:54 2006
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:40:54 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server File locations and speed
In-Reply-To: <003d01c6dd1f$bf32a5d0$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <003d01c6dd1f$bf32a5d0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a0609202040u4ad84cfbl65f21ba81dbf99f0@mail.gmail.com>

John,
   It has to do with physical speed.  If you have one raid5 w/ data
and log files, then the OS has to go through one raid controller to
get to either the log files or the datafiles, the database is
constantly writing to the log file while transactions are occuring,
and it is also constantly reading data from the data files while in
serving up data.  If you break down the raid5 into different drives
and controller channels you increase your throughput, as each drive
has a dedicated channel... a better method than just a raid5 would be
something like a raid5 for data, and a mirror raid for your
transaction logs.  even better if you can afford it would be raid10
for data and likewise for your log files, but that's really more
likely for the most demanding applications, and last I remember you
are juggling several hundred gig, wich may just be suitable that
coupled w/ bulk logging to minimize the size of the log files would
help the speed tremendously.

On 9/20/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have any insight on the pros and cons of using a (fast) Raid5 as
> one big partition which holds the database data files as well as the log
> files, vs breaking a single raid5 array down into partitions and placing the
> log files on one partition and the data files on another, vs building two
> raid arrays and placing the data files on one raid array and the log files
> on another.
>

-- 
-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...


From darrend at nimble.com.au  Thu Sep 21 00:10:08 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:10:08 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services - Dynamically loading animage
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0609121030m1ced0a61lb48700210a8fe0ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060921051009.QYGL14640.omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>

Hi Francisco

This is still causing me grief - have you had any brain jogs as to what it may
be? :-))

Do you know of any other SQL forums that have a Reporting Services bias or
flavor to them? 

Many thanks
 
Darren
------------------
T: 0424 696 433

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2006 3:31 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services - Dynamically loading animage

Darren, I Remember seeing this before I Just don't remember it OTOMH,
but it's not .Picture,

On 9/3/06, Darren DICK <darrend at nimble.com.au> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> In access there is a dot picture property for an Image control
>
> Eg Me.SomeImage.Picture = C:\SomeCoolPic.jpg
>
> Is there a similar property for an Image control using Reporting Services?
>
> many thanks
>
> DD
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


-- 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Sep 21 11:57:52 2006
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:57:52 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services - Dynamically loading animage
In-Reply-To: <20060921051009.QYGL14640.omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>
References: <b874372a0609121030m1ced0a61lb48700210a8fe0ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060921051009.QYGL14640.omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>
Message-ID: <b874372a0609210957x4edb97fdxf729dc6ba5165b57@mail.gmail.com>

this one is pretty active: ReportingServices at googlegroups.com, I'm
afraid my reports in RS are generally drag and drop, and very little
in the way of manipulating via code, I have done simple things like
drilldown reporting and those that map out to other reports... my
latest one was a bit tricky as I had to create my own TrendLine :|



On 9/20/06, Darren DICK <darrend at nimble.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Francisco
>
> This is still causing me grief - have you had any brain jogs as to what it may
> be? :-))
>
> Do you know of any other SQL forums that have a Reporting Services bias or
> flavor to them?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Darren
> ------------------
> T: 0424 696 433
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2006 3:31 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services - Dynamically loading animage
>
> Darren, I Remember seeing this before I Just don't remember it OTOMH,
> but it's not .Picture,
>
> On 9/3/06, Darren DICK <darrend at nimble.com.au> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > In access there is a dot picture property for an Image control
> >
> > Eg Me.SomeImage.Picture = C:\SomeCoolPic.jpg
> >
> > Is there a similar property for an Image control using Reporting Services?
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> > DD
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> -Francisco
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


-- 
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http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...


From listmaster at databaseadvisors.com  Thu Sep 21 13:02:37 2006
From: listmaster at databaseadvisors.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:02:37 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Looks Like SpamCop is at it again
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP01BFC7EE48924309244BC5AE200@CEZ.ICE>

Well, it looks like SpamCop is at it again.

Yesterday DBA's mail server was listed by SpamCop and as a result 
quite a few of you were bounced.

Everything should be back to normal now.

Hopefully it stays that way.

You're humble Listmaster,



From ssharkins at setel.com  Thu Sep 21 13:36:55 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:36:55 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Looks Like SpamCop is at it again
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP01BFC7EE48924309244BC5AE200@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <005101c6ddac$eaf50f40$10b62ad1@SUSANONE>

Bryan, my isp says they're not using SpamCop to filter my email -- why would
this happen to me if they're telling me the truth? 

Susan H. 

Well, it looks like SpamCop is at it again.

Yesterday DBA's mail server was listed by SpamCop and as a result quite a
few of you were bounced.

Everything should be back to normal now.

Hopefully it stays that way.

You're humble Listmaster,



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Thu Sep 21 16:08:10 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:08:10 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Looks Like SpamCop is at it again
In-Reply-To: <005101c6ddac$eaf50f40$10b62ad1@SUSANONE>
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP01BFC7EE48924309244BC5AE200@CEZ.ICE>
	<005101c6ddac$eaf50f40$10b62ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920609211408o1480456fk55b6d6f296ff323@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/21/06, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at setel.com> wrote:
> Bryan, my isp says they're not using SpamCop to filter my email -- why would
> this happen to me if they're telling me the truth?

I don't know. There could be a holdup somewhere in the chain, that's
why I'll need to see one of the delayed posts.

The SpamCop question was just an idea based on timing. A guess really.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From ssharkins at setel.com  Thu Sep 21 18:22:42 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:22:42 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Looks Like SpamCop is at it again
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920609211408o1480456fk55b6d6f296ff323@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007201c6ddd4$dbb252e0$10b62ad1@SUSANONE>

They've already responded again -- not running SpamCop -- it's got to be in
the chain somewhere -- that's their suggestion too. Can't do much about it
except watch for it and let you know when my mail disappears next time. 

Thanks Bryan!
Susan H.  


I don't know. There could be a holdup somewhere in the chain, that's why
I'll need to see one of the delayed posts.

The SpamCop question was just an idea based on timing. A guess really.



From darrend at nimble.com.au  Thu Sep 21 23:15:25 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren HALL)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:15:25 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services - Dynamically loading animage
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0609210957x4edb97fdxf729dc6ba5165b57@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060922041527.ZTGR16502.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>

Hi Francisco

Many thanks

Mmm trend lines - sounds like fun 

Thanks for the link
 
Have a great day
 
Darren
------------------
T: 0424 696 433

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 2:58 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services - Dynamically loading animage

this one is pretty active: ReportingServices at googlegroups.com, I'm
afraid my reports in RS are generally drag and drop, and very little
in the way of manipulating via code, I have done simple things like
drilldown reporting and those that map out to other reports... my
latest one was a bit tricky as I had to create my own TrendLine :|



On 9/20/06, Darren DICK <darrend at nimble.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Francisco
>
> This is still causing me grief - have you had any brain jogs as to what it may
> be? :-))
>
> Do you know of any other SQL forums that have a Reporting Services bias or
> flavor to them?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Darren
> ------------------
> T: 0424 696 433
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2006 3:31 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services - Dynamically loading animage
>
> Darren, I Remember seeing this before I Just don't remember it OTOMH,
> but it's not .Picture,
>
> On 9/3/06, Darren DICK <darrend at nimble.com.au> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > In access there is a dot picture property for an Image control
> >
> > Eg Me.SomeImage.Picture = C:\SomeCoolPic.jpg
> >
> > Is there a similar property for an Image control using Reporting Services?
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> > DD
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> -Francisco
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


-- 
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From askolits at ot.com  Fri Sep 22 16:00:20 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:00:20 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <44DA455A.8040702@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <00a201c6de8a$214793f0$6d01a8c0@LaptopXP>

Is there an equivalent grouping argument for LAST and FIRST in SqlServer?






From ssharkins at setel.com  Fri Sep 22 18:09:12 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:09:12 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <00a201c6de8a$214793f0$6d01a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <001a01c6de9c$1f791050$2534fad1@SUSANONE>

No. 

Susan H. 

Is there an equivalent grouping argument for LAST and FIRST in SqlServer?




From darrend at nimble.com.au  Fri Sep 22 18:50:05 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:50:05 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <00a201c6de8a$214793f0$6d01a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <20060922235007.WCRQ11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>

Something that may help is the MIN or MAX arguments

E.g. select min(StartDate) as 'First Date' from SomeTable

That's what I use

HTH

Darran 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Saturday, 23 September 2006 7:00 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL

Is there an equivalent grouping argument for LAST and FIRST in SqlServer?




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From ssharkins at setel.com  Fri Sep 22 18:59:17 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:59:17 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <20060922235007.WCRQ11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>
Message-ID: <000001c6dea3$1e4dd290$cfb82ad1@SUSANONE>

MIN and MAX aren't interchangeable with FIRST and LAST. 

Susan H. 

Something that may help is the MIN or MAX arguments

E.g. select min(StartDate) as 'First Date' from SomeTable




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Sep 23 03:03:28 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:03:28 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <000001c6dea3$1e4dd290$cfb82ad1@SUSANONE>
References: <20060922235007.WCRQ11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>,
	<000001c6dea3$1e4dd290$cfb82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <451576F0.6795.A0C475B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

They are if you use then on the Order By column :-)

On 22 Sep 2006 at 19:59, Susan Harkins wrote:

> MIN and MAX aren't interchangeable with FIRST and LAST. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> Something that may help is the MIN or MAX arguments
> 
> E.g. select min(StartDate) as 'First Date' from SomeTable
> 
> 
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> 

-- 
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From ssharkins at setel.com  Sat Sep 23 09:19:27 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:19:27 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <451576F0.6795.A0C475B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000b01c6df1b$4d8f8440$9734fad1@SUSANONE>

You're right -- the results will often be the same. :) But their functions
aren't the same, so, just wanted to warn folks to be careful. 

Susan H. 

They are if you use then on the Order By column :-)




From darrend at nimble.com.au  Sun Sep 24 19:27:13 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:27:13 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <000b01c6df1b$4d8f8440$9734fad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20060925002714.RKLL8785.omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>

Howdy

Yep they certainly are NOT the same - nor should they be confused as being the
same - however in the simple demo I gave it should find his first date in a
column on a table 

(remembering I am an SQL Luddite) 


Many thanks
 
Have a great day
 
Darren
------------------
T: 0424 696 433

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, 24 September 2006 12:19 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL

You're right -- the results will often be the same. :) But their functions
aren't the same, so, just wanted to warn folks to be careful. 

Susan H. 

They are if you use then on the Order By column :-)


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From askolits at ot.com  Mon Sep 25 05:58:38 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:58:38 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <20060925002714.RKLL8785.omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@DENZILLAP>
Message-ID: <000d01c6e091$918ffbd0$6d01a8c0@LaptopXP>

Thanks for the responses.

I really need Last since there are three records all with the same date and
I want to take the last one entered. There is no Increment field so no way
of knowing which is the last. With Access, I can be sure I have the right
record, but in SQL, I'm not sure. I wonder how the Access SQL call is
getting converted when it hits SQLServer when using First Or Last.

I guess I can try to use the SQL tracer? I think that's what it's called,
been a while since I've used it. That might help figure it out.

Thanks.

John


 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:27 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL

Howdy

Yep they certainly are NOT the same - nor should they be confused as being
the
same - however in the simple demo I gave it should find his first date in a
column on a table 

(remembering I am an SQL Luddite) 


Many thanks
 
Have a great day
 
Darren
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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Sunday, 24 September 2006 12:19 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL

You're right -- the results will often be the same. :) But their functions
aren't the same, so, just wanted to warn folks to be careful. 

Susan H. 

They are if you use then on the Order By column :-)


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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 25 13:21:19 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:21:19 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <000d01c6e091$918ffbd0$6d01a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <BAY126-F19A3ADDF703CC38BB4107BD2240@phx.gbl>

John,

I just kinda lurk on the SQL list...just wading through trying to 
learn...and not sure if this could be a solution for you...but depending on 
what version of SQL you're using, one of the following may be useful:

@@IDENTITY
This is an intrinsic variable in SQL Server that contains the Id of the 
record that was last created on this connection, regardless of the table.
IDENT_CURRENT('table')
This function returns the ID of the record that was last created in the 
specified table.
SCOPE_IDENTITY
This variable contains the Id of the last record that was created within the 
current scope, regardless of the table.


Good luck,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "John Skolits" <askolits at ot.com>
>Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:58:38 -0400
>
>Thanks for the responses.
>
>I really need Last since there are three records all with the same date and
>I want to take the last one entered. There is no Increment field so no way
>of knowing which is the last. With Access, I can be sure I have the right
>record, but in SQL, I'm not sure. I wonder how the Access SQL call is
>getting converted when it hits SQLServer when using First Or Last.
>
>I guess I can try to use the SQL tracer? I think that's what it's called,
>been a while since I've used it. That might help figure it out.
>
>Thanks.
>
>John
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren 
>DICK
>Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:27 PM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
>
>Howdy
>
>Yep they certainly are NOT the same - nor should they be confused as being
>the
>same - however in the simple demo I gave it should find his first date in a
>column on a table
>
>(remembering I am an SQL Luddite)
>
>
>Many thanks
>
>Have a great day
>
>Darren
>------------------
>T: 0424 696 433
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
>Harkins
>Sent: Sunday, 24 September 2006 12:19 AM
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
>
>You're right -- the results will often be the same. :) But their functions
>aren't the same, so, just wanted to warn folks to be careful.
>
>Susan H.
>
>They are if you use then on the Order By column :-)
>
>
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Sep 26 13:19:53 2006
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:19:53 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1159290014.6939.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors.c
 om>
References: <mailman.5.1159290014.6939.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060926131828.02380a50@pop3.highstream.net>

Actually, John, you should add a timestamp column to the data.
Then you can always get the last record added for any number of
duplicates.



At 12:00 PM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:21:19 +0000
>From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Message-ID: <BAY126-F19A3ADDF703CC38BB4107BD2240 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>John,
>
>I just kinda lurk on the SQL list...just wading through trying to
>learn...and not sure if this could be a solution for you...but depending on
>what version of SQL you're using, one of the following may be useful:
>
>@@IDENTITY
>This is an intrinsic variable in SQL Server that contains the Id of the
>record that was last created on this connection, regardless of the table.
>IDENT_CURRENT('table')
>This function returns the ID of the record that was last created in the
>specified table.
>SCOPE_IDENTITY
>This variable contains the Id of the last record that was created within the
>current scope, regardless of the table.
>
>
>Good luck,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
>
> >From: "John Skolits" <askolits at ot.com>
> >Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> >To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
> >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:58:38 -0400
> >
> >Thanks for the responses.
> >
> >I really need Last since there are three records all with the same date and
> >I want to take the last one entered. There is no Increment field so no way
> >of knowing which is the last. With Access, I can be sure I have the right
> >record, but in SQL, I'm not sure. I wonder how the Access SQL call is
> >getting converted when it hits SQLServer when using First Or Last.
> >
> >I guess I can try to use the SQL tracer? I think that's what it's called,
> >been a while since I've used it. That might help figure it out.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >John
> >




From artful at rogers.com  Tue Sep 26 13:29:45 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:29:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060926131828.02380a50@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <20060926182945.21630.qmail@web88202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

That will work for all future rows but not the existing rows. If there's an Identity column then it's trivial, but if not then you might consider adding one (even if only temporarily), since it will number the rows in the order they were added.

----- Original Message ----
From: Robert L. Stewart <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:19:53 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL

Actually, John, you should add a timestamp column to the data.
Then you can always get the last record added for any number of
duplicates.



At 12:00 PM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:21:19 +0000
>From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Message-ID: <BAY126-F19A3ADDF703CC38BB4107BD2240 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>John,
>
>I just kinda lurk on the SQL list...just wading through trying to
>learn...and not sure if this could be a solution for you...but depending on
>what version of SQL you're using, one of the following may be useful:
>
>@@IDENTITY
>This is an intrinsic variable in SQL Server that contains the Id of the
>record that was last created on this connection, regardless of the table.
>IDENT_CURRENT('table')
>This function returns the ID of the record that was last created in the
>specified table.
>SCOPE_IDENTITY
>This variable contains the Id of the last record that was created within the
>current scope, regardless of the table.
>
>
>Good luck,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
>
> >From: "John Skolits" <askolits at ot.com>
> >Reply-To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> >To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Accees Grouping Vs SQL
> >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:58:38 -0400
> >
> >Thanks for the responses.
> >
> >I really need Last since there are three records all with the same date and
> >I want to take the last one entered. There is no Increment field so no way
> >of knowing which is the last. With Access, I can be sure I have the right
> >record, but in SQL, I'm not sure. I wonder how the Access SQL call is
> >getting converted when it hits SQLServer when using First Or Last.
> >
> >I guess I can try to use the SQL tracer? I think that's what it's called,
> >been a while since I've used it. That might help figure it out.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >John
> >


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Sep 28 09:42:49 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:42:49 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Moving the log file
In-Reply-To: <005f01c6dc09$1a639cb0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <007301c6e30c$60305210$647aa8c0@m6805>

Is there a way to have SQL Server itself move it's log file to another
drive?  I created a database and it creates the log file in the same
directory as the data file.  If I detach the database and physically move
the log file, SQL Server refuses to allow me to attach the database again
using (changing the location of) the log file on the other drive.  If I just
click OK with the little red X in the log file location, it creates a new
log file back in the same location as the data file. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com



From rlavsa at tigg.com  Thu Sep 28 13:59:58 2006
From: rlavsa at tigg.com (Richard Lavsa)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:59:58 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] DTS Conditional email
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060726155146.0270f200@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <F44A0E447535764DB9447CED518D0C7E53165D@tiggsbs1.tiggpittsburgh1.local>

Hello all,

I was able to build a workflow very quickly to run a query, get the
results, export them into an excel file, then email the file to a
distribution list.  

I am stuck on how to make it do this only when the query returns rows.
The reason for this to be conditional, is that this only happens when a
process does not complete of which then needs to throw a flag to certain
people to check into the issue.  

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Rich
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From chizotz at mchsi.com  Thu Sep 28 15:15:38 2006
From: chizotz at mchsi.com (Ron Allen)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:15:38 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] DTS Conditional email
Message-ID: <092820062015.13480.451C2D69000C8AF3000034A8219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF969B019607080C@mchsi.com>

I have to do something similar. In my case, I store the number of rows 
returned in a global variable, then I use an ActiveX script in DTS to branch 
execution based on the value. Here is the JavaScript I use:

function Main()
{
	if (DTSGlobalVariables("RecordCount").value == 0)
	{
		return(DTSTaskExecResult_Failure);
	}
	else
	{
		return(DTSTaskExecResult_Success);
	}
}

Then I just branch on failure to the steps needed for that, and on success to 
the rest of the DTS package that runs normally.

HTH,

Ron



> Hello all,
> 
> I was able to build a workflow very quickly to run a query, get the
> results, export them into an excel file, then email the file to a
> distribution list.  
> 
> I am stuck on how to make it do this only when the query returns rows.
> The reason for this to be conditional, is that this only happens when a
> process does not complete of which then needs to throw a flag to certain
> people to check into the issue.  
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Rich
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> to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please be 
> advised that any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is 
> strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please contact 
> the sender at TIGG Corporation immediately by replying to this email and 
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