From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 09:25:49 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:25:49 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services Question
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809020725o62c18fc0j46a1c2f358805c8e@mail.gmail.com>

I'm building a report whose data set is based on a parameterized stored
procedure. The params are @CategoryID and @SubCategoryID. I have opened the
Report Parameters screen and changed both parameters to combo boxes and
specified the value field and label field. Ok fine. Only problem is I'm
getting repeated values in the Preview mode, rather than a unique list of
all categories.

When I open the toolbox, at the top it says Datasets. This implies that I
could add two more datasets to the report, and use them as the dataset for
the combo boxes. But after a couple of hours of poking around, I cannot find
out how to add another dataset. If you can only have one, why does the
toolbox label say Datasets?

Anybody know if it's possible, and if so how to do it? Or some other way of
populating my combo box parameters?

TIA,
Arthur


From James at fcidms.com  Tue Sep  2 10:03:33 2008
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:03:33 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services Question
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809020725o62c18fc0j46a1c2f358805c8e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02e401c90d0d$11edc1a0$680101c0@fci.local>

Arthur:

Are you using Visual Studio to create the report? If so, you should see
three tabs in the Report Designer: Data, Layout and Preview. If you open the
Data tab, you should see a combo box for Dataset. If you dropdown the combo
box, you will see an option for <New Dataset>. Use that to create a dataset
for unique Categories and then you can point your Parameters combo box at
the new dataset.

Hope that helps.

James Barash


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:26 AM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Cc: Joe Michel
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services Question

I'm building a report whose data set is based on a parameterized stored
procedure. The params are @CategoryID and @SubCategoryID. I have opened the
Report Parameters screen and changed both parameters to combo boxes and
specified the value field and label field. Ok fine. Only problem is I'm
getting repeated values in the Preview mode, rather than a unique list of
all categories.

When I open the toolbox, at the top it says Datasets. This implies that I
could add two more datasets to the report, and use them as the dataset for
the combo boxes. But after a couple of hours of poking around, I cannot find
out how to add another dataset. If you can only have one, why does the
toolbox label say Datasets?

Anybody know if it's possible, and if so how to do it? Or some other way of
populating my combo box parameters?

TIA,
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 11:35:16 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:35:16 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services Question
In-Reply-To: <02e401c90d0d$11edc1a0$680101c0@fci.local>
References: <29f585dd0809020725o62c18fc0j46a1c2f358805c8e@mail.gmail.com>
	<02e401c90d0d$11edc1a0$680101c0@fci.local>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809020935y518fc9f7ud8dd723587006cae@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. Now I have another question. I did finally stumble upon it, and now
I have the opposite problem. How do I delete a dataset?

TIA,
Arthur

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM, James Barash <James at fcidms.com> wrote:

> Arthur:
>
> Are you using Visual Studio to create the report? If so, you should see
> three tabs in the Report Designer: Data, Layout and Preview. If you open
> the
> Data tab, you should see a combo box for Dataset. If you dropdown the combo
> box, you will see an option for <New Dataset>. Use that to create a dataset
> for unique Categories and then you can point your Parameters combo box at
> the new dataset.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> James Barash
>
>
>


From nancy.lytle at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 11:55:07 2008
From: nancy.lytle at gmail.com (Nancy Lytle)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:55:07 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services Question
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809020935y518fc9f7ud8dd723587006cae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809020725o62c18fc0j46a1c2f358805c8e@mail.gmail.com>
	<02e401c90d0d$11edc1a0$680101c0@fci.local> 
	<29f585dd0809020935y518fc9f7ud8dd723587006cae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY134-W49069FC63880F8E5845DF8845F0@phx.gbl>

Select it in that same dataset combo box in the Data tab (visual studio) and hit the delete button next to it.Nancy Lytle N_Lytle at terpalum.umd.edu



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> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:35:16 -0300> From: fuller.artful at gmail.com> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting Services Question> > Thanks. Now I have another question. I did finally stumble upon it, and now> I have the opposite problem. How do I delete a dataset?> > TIA,> Arthur> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM, James Barash <James at fcidms.com> wrote:> > > Arthur:> >> > Are you using Visual Studio to create the report? If so, you should see> > three tabs in the Report Designer: Data, Layout and Preview. If you open> > the> > Data tab, you should see a combo box for Dataset. If you dropdown the combo> > box, you will see an option for <New Dataset>. Use that to create a dataset> > for unique Categories and then you can point your Parameters combo box at> > the new dataset.> >> > Hope that helps.> >> > James Barash> >> >> >> _______________________________________________> dba-SQLServer mailing list> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver> http://www.databaseadvisors.com> 

From kens.programming at verizon.net  Tue Sep  2 22:01:28 2008
From: kens.programming at verizon.net (KensProgramming)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:01:28 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Inserting Images into SS2K
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809020725o62c18fc0j46a1c2f358805c8e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809020725o62c18fc0j46a1c2f358805c8e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c90d71$5d3db340$6401a8c0@Stoker.com>



I have a client who has a table that contains the paths to images for
records.  However, this client has now decided that they want to have these
images stored internally in SQL Server.  I have a table then that is set up
to store these images, but I don't know how to go from the table with the
paths listed to the table with these images stored internally.  I have
googled and looked through BOL, but haven't been able to find anything that
appears to help me.  I could just be slow and blind.  I could really use
anyone's help and actually need something to help me get started asap.

Thanks
 
Ken
Business Analyst



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Sep  2 22:21:31 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:21:31 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Inserting Images into SS2K
In-Reply-To: <002c01c90d71$5d3db340$6401a8c0@Stoker.com>
References: <29f585dd0809020725o62c18fc0j46a1c2f358805c8e@mail.gmail.com>,
	<002c01c90d71$5d3db340$6401a8c0@Stoker.com>
Message-ID: <48BE02BB.11245.72188C4E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Here's an old reference to using BLOBs in Access:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;103257

The VBA functions to read/write disk files to/from OLE Object fields given should work just 
the same with an ODBC connection to SQLServer with an image (long binary) data field.

--
Stuart


On 2 Sep 2008 at 20:01, KensProgramming wrote:

> 
> 
> I have a client who has a table that contains the paths to images for
> records.  However, this client has now decided that they want to have these
> images stored internally in SQL Server.  I have a table then that is set up
> to store these images, but I don't know how to go from the table with the
> paths listed to the table with these images stored internally.  I have
> googled and looked through BOL, but haven't been able to find anything that
> appears to help me.  I could just be slow and blind.  I could really use
> anyone's help and actually need something to help me get started asap.
> 
> Thanks
>  
> Ken
> Business Analyst
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 

-- 
Stuart Mclachlan




From dbdoug at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 22:52:47 2008
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:52:47 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Inserting Images into SS2K
In-Reply-To: <002c01c90d71$5d3db340$6401a8c0@Stoker.com>
References: <29f585dd0809020725o62c18fc0j46a1c2f358805c8e@mail.gmail.com>
	<002c01c90d71$5d3db340$6401a8c0@Stoker.com>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0809022052h6529abfl9332ba087bb538d7@mail.gmail.com>

Would this be of any help?:

http://www.motobit.com/tips/detpg_read-write-sql-image-file/

Doug Steele

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM, KensProgramming <
kens.programming at verizon.net> wrote:

>
>
> I have a client who has a table that contains the paths to images for
> records.  However, this client has now decided that they want to have these
> images stored internally in SQL Server.  I have a table then that is set up
> to store these images, but I don't know how to go from the table with the
> paths listed to the table with these images stored internally.  I have
> googled and looked through BOL, but haven't been able to find anything that
> appears to help me.  I could just be slow and blind.  I could really use
> anyone's help and actually need something to help me get started asap.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken
> Business Analyst
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


From jlawrenc1 at shaw.ca  Thu Sep  4 02:32:34 2008
From: jlawrenc1 at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:32:34 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Inserting Images into SS2K
In-Reply-To: <48BE02BB.11245.72188C4E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <29f585dd0809020725o62c18fc0j46a1c2f358805c8e@mail.gmail.com>
	<002c01c90d71$5d3db340$6401a8c0@Stoker.com>
	<48BE02BB.11245.72188C4E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <9360992A144B429AB92331377C52296B@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Stuart and Ken:

The 'chunk' method is actually an older algorithm of copying images to and
from a SQL DB. The new a much faster method is to use ADO streaming:
http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.Asp?ID=1802 

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:22 PM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Inserting Images into SS2K

Here's an old reference to using BLOBs in Access:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;103257

The VBA functions to read/write disk files to/from OLE Object fields given
should work just 
the same with an ODBC connection to SQLServer with an image (long binary)
data field.

--
Stuart


On 2 Sep 2008 at 20:01, KensProgramming wrote:

> 
> 
> I have a client who has a table that contains the paths to images for
> records.  However, this client has now decided that they want to have
these
> images stored internally in SQL Server.  I have a table then that is set
up
> to store these images, but I don't know how to go from the table with the
> paths listed to the table with these images stored internally.  I have
> googled and looked through BOL, but haven't been able to find anything
that
> appears to help me.  I could just be slow and blind.  I could really use
> anyone's help and actually need something to help me get started asap.
> 
> Thanks
>  
> Ken
> Business Analyst
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 

-- 
Stuart Mclachlan


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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 14:33:59 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:33:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs
Message-ID: <0a0b01c9137c$42ebec80$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

Are full transaction logs still a problem in 2005 and 2008? I'm just 
wondering if they've done anything automatic to warn the administrator or to 
avoid the problem altogether.

Susan H. 



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 14:59:17 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:59:17 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Very strange behavior
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809101259w710b3cfehd2d80cce6c7c22a2@mail.gmail.com>

The following code declares a cursor and then generates one SQL
statement per table in the current database, placing the statement into the
cursor. We then walk the cursor and either print or execute each statement.
Run the code as is against any database. In this example I'm using
Northwind:

<sql>
-- Build Cursor of UPDATE STATISTICS Statements
DECLARE Statement_Cursor CURSOR
    FOR SELECT
  CHAR(39) + 'UPDATE STATISTICS ' + SCHEMA_NAME() + '.' + sysobjects.NAME +
CHAR(39)
        FROM
            sysobjects
        WHERE
            TYPE = 'U'
OPEN Statement_Cursor
FETCH NEXT FROM Statement_Cursor INTO @statement

WHILE @@FETCH_STATUS = 0
    BEGIN
--  SET @statement = CHAR(39)+ at statement+CHAR(39)
--  This is the test statement to ensure that it works
       print @statement
--  This is the production statement that will take a long time
--  EXEC (@statement)
        FETCH NEXT FROM Statement_Cursor INTO @statement
    END
CLOSE Statement_Cursor
DEALLOCATE Statement_Cursor
-- example:
/*
USE NorthwindCS
DECLARE @sql VARCHAR(255)
SET @sql = 'UPDATE STATISTICS dbo.Employees'
--print @sql
EXEC (@sql)
*/
</sql>

To repeat my experiments, do this:

1. Run the code as is. It will print out lovely SQL statements.

2. Uncomment the EXEC(@statement) line and run the code again. You will get
a bunch of errors.

3. Select the code within the example and run it. The code works and you get
a nice message.

The string being passed to the EXEC in the example is identical to those
produced in the main code. Why it works in one case and not the
other baffles me.

Got any ideas?

I think this can be a cool and useful chunk of code once I figure a way out
of this problem. I have had my colleague Matthew look at it and he too is
baffled. So we need a third and maybe fourth and maybe fifth set of eyes.

TIA,

Arthur


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 15:31:47 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:31:47 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs
In-Reply-To: <0a0b01c9137c$42ebec80$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <0a0b01c9137c$42ebec80$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809101331i34eeba39nfd12c2eae8c6ac74@mail.gmail.com>

I know that some people have received a message that their transaction log
is full, but I personally never have. I don't know what I'm doing right.
Recently we changed our strategy on transaction logs. Now we back up the log
(only the log) four times a day and nightly do a dbcc shrinkfile, so the
living log is peanuts compared to what it used  to be. Before I got here
there was a nightly process that dropped a table and then recreated it and
did thousands of inserts. As a result, the log file was huge -- way larger
than the 18 gig db itself. We changed that process dramatically and the log
file shrank dramatically too.
Arthur
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Are full transaction logs still a problem in 2005 and 2008? I'm just
> wondering if they've done anything automatic to warn the administrator or
> to
> avoid the problem altogether.
>
> Susan H.
>


From James at fcidms.com  Wed Sep 10 15:42:53 2008
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:42:53 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Very strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809101259w710b3cfehd2d80cce6c7c22a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010c01c91385$cca4cba0$680101c0@fci.local>

Arthur:

I think the problem is with the CHAR(39) that you wrap the Update in. I
tried running it without those and it run file except for tables that have a
space in the tablename. I modified it to:

DECLARE Statement_Cursor CURSOR
    FOR SELECT
  'UPDATE STATISTICS [' + SCHEMA_NAME() + '].[' + sysobjects.NAME + ']'

        FROM
            sysobjects
        WHERE
            TYPE = 'U' 

However, there is an easier way to accomplish this:

EXEC sp_MSForeachtable 'UPDATE STATISTICS ?'

This uses an undocumented stored procedure in the Master database. It works
in SQL Server 2000/2005 at least. I don't know about other versions.

Hope this helps.

James Barash



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:59 PM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Very strange behavior

The following code declares a cursor and then generates one SQL
statement per table in the current database, placing the statement into the
cursor. We then walk the cursor and either print or execute each statement.
Run the code as is against any database. In this example I'm using
Northwind:

<sql>
-- Build Cursor of UPDATE STATISTICS Statements
DECLARE Statement_Cursor CURSOR
    FOR SELECT
  CHAR(39) + 'UPDATE STATISTICS ' + SCHEMA_NAME() + '.' + sysobjects.NAME +
CHAR(39)
        FROM
            sysobjects
        WHERE
            TYPE = 'U'
OPEN Statement_Cursor
FETCH NEXT FROM Statement_Cursor INTO @statement

WHILE @@FETCH_STATUS = 0
    BEGIN
--  SET @statement = CHAR(39)+ at statement+CHAR(39)
--  This is the test statement to ensure that it works
       print @statement
--  This is the production statement that will take a long time
--  EXEC (@statement)
        FETCH NEXT FROM Statement_Cursor INTO @statement
    END
CLOSE Statement_Cursor
DEALLOCATE Statement_Cursor
-- example:
/*
USE NorthwindCS
DECLARE @sql VARCHAR(255)
SET @sql = 'UPDATE STATISTICS dbo.Employees'
--print @sql
EXEC (@sql)
*/
</sql>

To repeat my experiments, do this:

1. Run the code as is. It will print out lovely SQL statements.

2. Uncomment the EXEC(@statement) line and run the code again. You will get
a bunch of errors.

3. Select the code within the example and run it. The code works and you get
a nice message.

The string being passed to the EXEC in the example is identical to those
produced in the main code. Why it works in one case and not the
other baffles me.

Got any ideas?

I think this can be a cool and useful chunk of code once I figure a way out
of this problem. I have had my colleague Matthew look at it and he too is
baffled. So we need a third and maybe fourth and maybe fifth set of eyes.

TIA,

Arthur
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dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Sep 10 15:45:00 2008
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:45:00 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] OT Arthur
Message-ID: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B311EDDAB4AAF@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Hey Arthur

Got your card. Looks lovely and wish I was there.

Great to see you having fun

Martin

Martin WP Reid
Information Services
Queen's University
Riddel Hall
185 Stranmillis Road
Belfast
BT9 5EE
Tel : 02890974465
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
________________________________________



From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Wed Sep 10 17:17:57 2008
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:17:57 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809101331i34eeba39nfd12c2eae8c6ac74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301c91393$14ca91f0$2401a8c0@AB>

Hi Susan and Arthur,

The transaction is only truncated if you:

1. Set the database to SIMPLE RECOVERY MODEL. This recovery model equals the
obsolete command SET TRUNCATE ON CHECKPOINT ON, meaning that the log is
automatically truncated when a checkpoint is performed (normally every 1
minute). However, setting the database to SIMPLE RECOVERY MODEL will not
allow you to make backups of the transaction log - so this is not a
reasonable choice for an OLTP-database.
OR:
2. Perform a manual truncation of the log issuing the command BACKUP LOG
<mydatabase> WITH TRUNCATE_ONLY. This command should only be used as an
emergency if the database log for some reason is bloating.
OR:
3. Perform a log-backup at regular intervals. Notice that only a log-backup
will truncate the log, a full or differential backup won't.

Of these options I normally would prefer the last for an OLTP-database.

If I'm not wrong this may be an answer to Arthur's statement: "I don't know
what I'm doing right."

Asger

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur
Fuller
Sendt: 10. september 2008 22:32
Til: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Emne: Re: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs

I know that some people have received a message that their transaction log
is full, but I personally never have. I don't know what I'm doing right.
Recently we changed our strategy on transaction logs. Now we back up the log
(only the log) four times a day and nightly do a dbcc shrinkfile, so the
living log is peanuts compared to what it used  to be. Before I got here
there was a nightly process that dropped a table and then recreated it and
did thousands of inserts. As a result, the log file was huge -- way larger
than the 18 gig db itself. We changed that process dramatically and the log
file shrank dramatically too.
Arthur
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Are full transaction logs still a problem in 2005 and 2008? I'm just
> wondering if they've done anything automatic to warn the administrator or
> to
> avoid the problem altogether.
>
> Susan H.
>
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dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 17:39:52 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:39:52 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs
References: <000301c91393$14ca91f0$2401a8c0@AB>
Message-ID: <004901c91396$26adb430$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

If I'm not wrong this may be an answer to Arthur's statement: "I don't know
what I'm doing right."

======Well, redesigning that huge transaction certainly helps too. 

Susan H. 


From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Wed Sep 10 18:09:08 2008
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:09:08 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs
In-Reply-To: <000301c91393$14ca91f0$2401a8c0@AB>
Message-ID: <000401c9139a$3a813f50$2401a8c0@AB>

Just a second comment for Arthur:

You wrote: "Now we back up the log (only the log) four times a day and
nightly do a dbcc shrinkfile"

To my mind a DBCC SHRINKFILE is an emergency command which should NOT be
included in an automated administrative task.

DBCC SHRINKFILE will free truncated file-space to the operating system. This
may be a reasonable action if the log-file has been bloating. Otherwise it
certainly is not: freeing truncated file-space to the operation system will
force SQL Server to allocate new file-space for the log as needed, and this
will be a great invitation for file fragmentation at the disk level.

Asger
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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Asger Blond
Sendt: 11. september 2008 00:18
Til: 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server'
Emne: Re: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs

Hi Susan and Arthur,

The transaction is only truncated if you:

1. Set the database to SIMPLE RECOVERY MODEL. This recovery model equals the
obsolete command SET TRUNCATE ON CHECKPOINT ON, meaning that the log is
automatically truncated when a checkpoint is performed (normally every 1
minute). However, setting the database to SIMPLE RECOVERY MODEL will not
allow you to make backups of the transaction log - so this is not a
reasonable choice for an OLTP-database.
OR:
2. Perform a manual truncation of the log issuing the command BACKUP LOG
<mydatabase> WITH TRUNCATE_ONLY. This command should only be used as an
emergency if the database log for some reason is bloating.
OR:
3. Perform a log-backup at regular intervals. Notice that only a log-backup
will truncate the log, a full or differential backup won't.

Of these options I normally would prefer the last for an OLTP-database.

If I'm not wrong this may be an answer to Arthur's statement: "I don't know
what I'm doing right."

Asger

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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur
Fuller
Sendt: 10. september 2008 22:32
Til: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Emne: Re: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs

I know that some people have received a message that their transaction log
is full, but I personally never have. I don't know what I'm doing right.
Recently we changed our strategy on transaction logs. Now we back up the log
(only the log) four times a day and nightly do a dbcc shrinkfile, so the
living log is peanuts compared to what it used  to be. Before I got here
there was a nightly process that dropped a table and then recreated it and
did thousands of inserts. As a result, the log file was huge -- way larger
than the 18 gig db itself. We changed that process dramatically and the log
file shrank dramatically too.
Arthur
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Are full transaction logs still a problem in 2005 and 2008? I'm just
> wondering if they've done anything automatic to warn the administrator or
> to
> avoid the problem altogether.
>
> Susan H.
>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 23:14:43 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:14:43 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Very strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <010c01c91385$cca4cba0$680101c0@fci.local>
References: <29f585dd0809101259w710b3cfehd2d80cce6c7c22a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<010c01c91385$cca4cba0$680101c0@fci.local>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809102114u25ff1991xd9ec9723c4f6482f@mail.gmail.com>

In the simple case of Northwind you are correct, but try it against
Adventureworks and you will see the problem. Try running these statements:


EXEC
sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + schema_name() + '.' ? + 'REBUILD
WITH ( PAD_INDEX = OFF, SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = ON )')

EXEC
sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ? REBUILD WITH ( PAD_INDEX = OFF,
SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = ON )')


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 04:50:06 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:50:06 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs
In-Reply-To: <000401c9139a$3a813f50$2401a8c0@AB>
References: <000301c91393$14ca91f0$2401a8c0@AB>
	<000401c9139a$3a813f50$2401a8c0@AB>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809110250o363275d7md50c31d07b4c54a1@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for that, Asger. I will bring it up at our next meeting (I'm the new
guy on this team so the decision won't necessarily be in my hands, but on
the other hand I am respected for having resources like this group at my
fingertips).

Thanks,
Arthur

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk> wrote:

> Just a second comment for Arthur:
>
> You wrote: "Now we back up the log (only the log) four times a day and
> nightly do a dbcc shrinkfile"
>
> To my mind a DBCC SHRINKFILE is an emergency command which should NOT be
> included in an automated administrative task.
>
> DBCC SHRINKFILE will free truncated file-space to the operating system.
> This
> may be a reasonable action if the log-file has been bloating. Otherwise it
> certainly is not: freeing truncated file-space to the operation system will
> force SQL Server to allocate new file-space for the log as needed, and this
> will be a great invitation for file fragmentation at the disk level.
>
> Asger
>


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 11:48:00 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:48:00 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Question about Error Logs
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809110948p7aa9ee85k6eae7784607c6e24@mail.gmail.com>

I don't understand how the SQL error logs work. The last error log I have is
dated 8/21/2008. Does the database engine create an error log only when
there is an error or a warning? I had assumed that it would create one every
day, even if only to post a message that there were no errors, but maybe
that assumption is self-contradictory.

Arthur


From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Fri Sep 12 02:25:51 2008
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:25:51 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
Message-ID: <38c884770809120025n54f37781y764c9a1767779b38@mail.gmail.com>

To all,

Over the last two days we have been losing personnel off our main database,
and have had to retrieve them from one of my many backups.  However I can't
seem to see why or where this is happening in my application (VB6)...Does
anybody know how to view the LDF files, so that I can see each transaction
as it takes place, or if there is something I can do when a record is
deleted from tblPersonnel, or if I can turn on some sort of monitoring
system ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 07:00:06 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:00:06 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Very strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <010c01c91385$cca4cba0$680101c0@fci.local>
References: <29f585dd0809101259w710b3cfehd2d80cce6c7c22a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<010c01c91385$cca4cba0$680101c0@fci.local>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809120500o69512264r85f5e4a8eb91c3c7@mail.gmail.com>

In the simple case of Northwind you are correct, but try it against
Adventureworks and you will see the problem. Try running these statements:


EXEC
sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + schema_name() + '.' ? + 'REBUILD
WITH ( PAD_INDEX = OFF, SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = ON )')

EXEC
sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ? REBUILD WITH ( PAD_INDEX = OFF,
SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = ON )')
The apparent failure of sp_MSForEachTable to handle these variations on the
statement is what motivated me to look beyond sp_MSForEachTable.

A.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:42 PM, James Barash <James at fcidms.com> wrote:

> Arthur:
>
> I think the problem is with the CHAR(39) that you wrap the Update in. I
> tried running it without those and it run file except for tables that have
> a
> space in the tablename. I modified it to:
>
> DECLARE Statement_Cursor CURSOR
>    FOR SELECT
>  'UPDATE STATISTICS [' + SCHEMA_NAME() + '].[' + sysobjects.NAME + ']'
>
>        FROM
>            sysobjects
>        WHERE
>            TYPE = 'U'
>
> However, there is an easier way to accomplish this:
>
> EXEC sp_MSForeachtable 'UPDATE STATISTICS ?'
>
>


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 09:39:07 2008
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:39:07 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Very strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809102114u25ff1991xd9ec9723c4f6482f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809101259w710b3cfehd2d80cce6c7c22a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<010c01c91385$cca4cba0$680101c0@fci.local>
	<29f585dd0809102114u25ff1991xd9ec9723c4f6482f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a0809120739r7b2950f7nfba04089d3d28bf@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur... I have built my defrag indexes scripts for Sql 2005 following this
model... that I wrote up on my blog
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com/2005/04/defrag-those-indexes-maintenance.html

the initial simply finds the fragmented indexes... I have a much more
complete script that I can post later today, but here is the basic portion
on the defrag section... in where I simply defrag...



SET NOCOUNT ON

DECLARE @TableName AS VARCHAR(500),
        @TableOwner AS VARCHAR(500),
        @Rows AS BIGINT,
        @aAvg AS DECIMAL(10,3),
        @SQL AS VARCHAR (1000)

WHILE EXISTS(SELECT * FROM db_defrag)
BEGIN
    SELECT TOP 1
        @TableOwner = TableOwner,
        @TableName = TableName --TableName,
AVG(avg_fragmentation_in_percent)aAvg, AVG(ROWS) aRows,
        , at Rows = AVG(ROWS), @aAvg = AVG([avg_fragmentation_in_percent])
        FROM db_defrag
    GROUP BY TableOwner, TableName
    ORDER BY AVG(ROWS) DESC

    SET @SQL = 'BEGIN TRY ' +
    'ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + @TableOwner + '.[' + @TableName + '] REBUILD
WITH(MAXDOP=2, ONLINE=ON)'
    + ' END TRY '  +
    + ' BEGIN CATCH '
    + 'ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + @TableOwner + '.[' + @TableName + '] REBUILD
WITH(MAXDOP=2, ONLINE=OFF)'
    + ' END CATCH '

    IF GETDATE() <  '5/4/08 23:59'--CONVERT(VARCHAR(12), GETDATE(), 110) +
' 22:00'
    BEGIN
        PRINT 'Defragging TABLE ' + @TableName
        EXECUTE(@SQL)
        PRINT 'Clearing from db_defrag table'
        DELETE FROM db_defrag WHERE TableName = @TableName
        INSERT INTO db_defrag_complete(TableOwner, TableName, ROWS)
VALUES(@TableOwner, @TableName, @Rows)
        SET @SQL = 'UPDATE STATISTICS ' + @TableOwner + '.' + @TableName
        EXEC(@SQL)
    END
    ELSE
    BEGIN
        PRINT 'Skipping TABLE ' + @TableName
        DELETE FROM db_defrag WHERE TableName = @TableName
        INSERT INTO db_defrag_skipped(TableOwner, TableName, ROWS,
[avg_fragmentation_in_percent]) VALUES(@TableOwner, @TableName, @Rows,
@aAvg)
    END

END

-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> In the simple case of Northwind you are correct, but try it against
> Adventureworks and you will see the problem. Try running these statements:
>
>
> EXEC
> sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + schema_name() + '.' ? + 'REBUILD
> WITH ( PAD_INDEX = OFF, SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = ON
> )')
>
> EXEC
> sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ? REBUILD WITH ( PAD_INDEX = OFF,
> SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = ON )')
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>
>


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 09:44:36 2008
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:44:36 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
In-Reply-To: <38c884770809120025n54f37781y764c9a1767779b38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38c884770809120025n54f37781y764c9a1767779b38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a0809120744p519b04dej4f6b628cf33e6f95@mail.gmail.com>

One method to ensure you block what is happening.... you can run profiler
and monitor for just the tblPersonnel, there are also products out there I
think there is one by quest software that will allow you to view the
transaction long (you can download the demo and review).  Along with
profiler you can also add some security  simply lock down the security to
prevent deletes in this table.  hopefully your app uses a uid that is not
the sa or administrative account.  once that occurs you can deterime once
and for all if it is your app (or if it's someone else)


hth


-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...


On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Paul Hartland <
paul.hartland at googlemail.com> wrote:

> To all,
>
> Over the last two days we have been losing personnel off our main database,
> and have had to retrieve them from one of my many backups.  However I can't
> seem to see why or where this is happening in my application (VB6)...Does
> anybody know how to view the LDF files, so that I can see each transaction
> as it takes place, or if there is something I can do when a record is
> deleted from tblPersonnel, or if I can turn on some sort of monitoring
> system ?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 11:09:16 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:09:16 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
In-Reply-To: <38c884770809120025n54f37781y764c9a1767779b38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38c884770809120025n54f37781y764c9a1767779b38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809120909q5ffb5eal8359c20fbd2bc6c0@mail.gmail.com>

Visit www.apexsql.com and download an eval copy of Apex SQL Log. It costs
$2000 with a year of support and updates, or $1499 alone. That's a lot of
money but I can see that it could save my bacon.

Arthur

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Paul Hartland <paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> To all,
>
> Over the last two days we have been losing personnel off our main database,
> and have had to retrieve them from one of my many backups.  However I can't
> seem to see why or where this is happening in my application (VB6)...Does
> anybody know how to view the LDF files, so that I can see each transaction
> as it takes place, or if there is something I can do when a record is
> deleted from tblPersonnel, or if I can turn on some sort of monitoring
> system ?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Fri Sep 12 16:59:28 2008
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:59:28 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
In-Reply-To: <38c884770809120025n54f37781y764c9a1767779b38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c91522$d43d2c60$2401a8c0@AB>

For this I would create an audittable and a FOR DELETE TRIGGER.
Suppose your tblPersonnel has columns like PersonnelID, FirstName, and
LastName. You want to audit the record deleted plus the time of the event,
and the user performing the deletion:

CREATE TABLE AuditDelete 
(PersonnelID int, FirstName varchar(30), LastName varchar (30), Deletion
varchar(100) DEFAULT CONVERT(varchar(50), GETDATE()) + '. By: ' +
SUSER_SNAME())
GO

CREATE TRIGGER tr_tblPersonnel_Delete ON tblPersonnel FOR DELETE AS
INSERT INTO AuditTable (PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName) SELECT
PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName FROM deleted
GO

Using a delete-trigger your can also cancel the event issuing a rollback.
Suppose you want to prevent deletion of multiple rows in the personnel
table, you could create the trigger like this:

CREATE TRIGGER tr_tblPersonnel_Delete ON tblPersonnel FOR DELETE AS
IF (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM deleted) > 1
BEGIN
	RAISERROR ('Deletion of multiple records not permitted!',16,1)
	ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
END
ELSE
INSERT INTO AuditTable (PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName) SELECT
PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName FROM deleted
GO

Asger
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Hartland
Sendt: 12. september 2008 09:26
Til: Access List; SQLServerList
Emne: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer

To all,

Over the last two days we have been losing personnel off our main database,
and have had to retrieve them from one of my many backups.  However I can't
seem to see why or where this is happening in my application (VB6)...Does
anybody know how to view the LDF files, so that I can see each transaction
as it takes place, or if there is something I can do when a record is
deleted from tblPersonnel, or if I can turn on some sort of monitoring
system ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 17:00:13 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:00:13 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Very strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0809120739r7b2950f7nfba04089d3d28bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809101259w710b3cfehd2d80cce6c7c22a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<010c01c91385$cca4cba0$680101c0@fci.local>
	<29f585dd0809102114u25ff1991xd9ec9723c4f6482f@mail.gmail.com>
	<b874372a0809120739r7b2950f7nfba04089d3d28bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809121500r1b5db6d5lb7de7841d3b96aaa@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Francisco. I assume the tables mentioned are user tables?

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:

> Arthur... I have built my defrag indexes scripts for Sql 2005 following
> this
> model... that I wrote up on my blog
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com/2005/04/defrag-those-indexes-maintenance.html
>
> the initial simply finds the fragmented indexes... I have a much more
> complete script that I can post later today, but here is the basic portion
> on the defrag section... in where I simply defrag...
>
>
>
> SET NOCOUNT ON
>
> DECLARE @TableName AS VARCHAR(500),
>        @TableOwner AS VARCHAR(500),
>        @Rows AS BIGINT,
>        @aAvg AS DECIMAL(10,3),
>        @SQL AS VARCHAR (1000)
>
> WHILE EXISTS(SELECT * FROM db_defrag)
> BEGIN
>    SELECT TOP 1
>        @TableOwner = TableOwner,
>        @TableName = TableName --TableName,
> AVG(avg_fragmentation_in_percent)aAvg, AVG(ROWS) aRows,
>        , at Rows = AVG(ROWS), @aAvg = AVG([avg_fragmentation_in_percent])
>        FROM db_defrag
>    GROUP BY TableOwner, TableName
>    ORDER BY AVG(ROWS) DESC
>
>    SET @SQL = 'BEGIN TRY ' +
>    'ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + @TableOwner + '.[' + @TableName + '] REBUILD
> WITH(MAXDOP=2, ONLINE=ON)'
>    + ' END TRY '  +
>    + ' BEGIN CATCH '
>    + 'ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + @TableOwner + '.[' + @TableName + '] REBUILD
> WITH(MAXDOP=2, ONLINE=OFF)'
>    + ' END CATCH '
>
>    IF GETDATE() <  '5/4/08 23:59'--CONVERT(VARCHAR(12), GETDATE(), 110) +
> ' 22:00'
>    BEGIN
>        PRINT 'Defragging TABLE ' + @TableName
>        EXECUTE(@SQL)
>        PRINT 'Clearing from db_defrag table'
>        DELETE FROM db_defrag WHERE TableName = @TableName
>        INSERT INTO db_defrag_complete(TableOwner, TableName, ROWS)
> VALUES(@TableOwner, @TableName, @Rows)
>        SET @SQL = 'UPDATE STATISTICS ' + @TableOwner + '.' + @TableName
>        EXEC(@SQL)
>    END
>    ELSE
>    BEGIN
>        PRINT 'Skipping TABLE ' + @TableName
>        DELETE FROM db_defrag WHERE TableName = @TableName
>        INSERT INTO db_defrag_skipped(TableOwner, TableName, ROWS,
> [avg_fragmentation_in_percent]) VALUES(@TableOwner, @TableName, @Rows,
> @aAvg)
>    END
>
> END
>
> -Francisco
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > In the simple case of Northwind you are correct, but try it against
> > Adventureworks and you will see the problem. Try running these
> statements:
> >
> >
> > EXEC
> > sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + schema_name() + '.' ? +
> 'REBUILD
> > WITH ( PAD_INDEX = OFF, SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = ON
> > )')
> >
> > EXEC
> > sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ? REBUILD WITH ( PAD_INDEX = OFF,
> > SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = ON )')
>  > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
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>
>


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 17:03:32 2008
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:03:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Very strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809121500r1b5db6d5lb7de7841d3b96aaa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809101259w710b3cfehd2d80cce6c7c22a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<010c01c91385$cca4cba0$680101c0@fci.local>
	<29f585dd0809102114u25ff1991xd9ec9723c4f6482f@mail.gmail.com>
	<b874372a0809120739r7b2950f7nfba04089d3d28bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<29f585dd0809121500r1b5db6d5lb7de7841d3b96aaa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a0809121503y539c9aam3782af235b898aa5@mail.gmail.com>

yes, user tables...
-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...


On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks Francisco. I assume the tables mentioned are user tables?
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Arthur... I have built my defrag indexes scripts for Sql 2005 following
> > this
> > model... that I wrote up on my blog
> >
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com/2005/04/defrag-those-indexes-maintenance.html
> >
> > the initial simply finds the fragmented indexes... I have a much more
> > complete script that I can post later today, but here is the basic
> portion
> > on the defrag section... in where I simply defrag...
> >
> >
> >
> > SET NOCOUNT ON
> >
> > DECLARE @TableName AS VARCHAR(500),
> >        @TableOwner AS VARCHAR(500),
> >        @Rows AS BIGINT,
> >        @aAvg AS DECIMAL(10,3),
> >        @SQL AS VARCHAR (1000)
> >
> > WHILE EXISTS(SELECT * FROM db_defrag)
> > BEGIN
> >    SELECT TOP 1
> >        @TableOwner = TableOwner,
> >        @TableName = TableName --TableName,
> > AVG(avg_fragmentation_in_percent)aAvg, AVG(ROWS) aRows,
> >        , at Rows = AVG(ROWS), @aAvg = AVG([avg_fragmentation_in_percent])
> >        FROM db_defrag
> >    GROUP BY TableOwner, TableName
> >    ORDER BY AVG(ROWS) DESC
> >
> >    SET @SQL = 'BEGIN TRY ' +
> >    'ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + @TableOwner + '.[' + @TableName + '] REBUILD
> > WITH(MAXDOP=2, ONLINE=ON)'
> >    + ' END TRY '  +
> >    + ' BEGIN CATCH '
> >    + 'ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + @TableOwner + '.[' + @TableName + '] REBUILD
> > WITH(MAXDOP=2, ONLINE=OFF)'
> >    + ' END CATCH '
> >
> >    IF GETDATE() <  '5/4/08 23:59'--CONVERT(VARCHAR(12), GETDATE(), 110) +
> > ' 22:00'
> >    BEGIN
> >        PRINT 'Defragging TABLE ' + @TableName
> >        EXECUTE(@SQL)
> >        PRINT 'Clearing from db_defrag table'
> >        DELETE FROM db_defrag WHERE TableName = @TableName
> >        INSERT INTO db_defrag_complete(TableOwner, TableName, ROWS)
> > VALUES(@TableOwner, @TableName, @Rows)
> >        SET @SQL = 'UPDATE STATISTICS ' + @TableOwner + '.' + @TableName
> >        EXEC(@SQL)
> >    END
> >    ELSE
> >    BEGIN
> >        PRINT 'Skipping TABLE ' + @TableName
> >        DELETE FROM db_defrag WHERE TableName = @TableName
> >        INSERT INTO db_defrag_skipped(TableOwner, TableName, ROWS,
> > [avg_fragmentation_in_percent]) VALUES(@TableOwner, @TableName, @Rows,
> > @aAvg)
> >    END
> >
> > END
> >
> > -Francisco
> > http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > In the simple case of Northwind you are correct, but try it against
> > > Adventureworks and you will see the problem. Try running these
> > statements:
> > >
> > >
> > > EXEC
> > > sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ' + schema_name() + '.' ? +
> > 'REBUILD
> > > WITH ( PAD_INDEX = OFF, SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE =
> ON
> > > )')
> > >
> > > EXEC
> > > sp_MSForeachtable ('ALTER INDEX ALL ON ? REBUILD WITH ( PAD_INDEX =
> OFF,
> > > SORT_IN_TEMPDB = ON, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = ON )')
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 17:29:52 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:29:52 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
In-Reply-To: <000001c91522$d43d2c60$2401a8c0@AB>
References: <38c884770809120025n54f37781y764c9a1767779b38@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001c91522$d43d2c60$2401a8c0@AB>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809121529g30572cddk2fd313e07217b331@mail.gmail.com>

That's certainly a solution for this specific problem, but I still think
there's a business case for a transaction log reader.

A.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk> wrote:

> For this I would create an audittable and a FOR DELETE TRIGGER.


From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Fri Sep 12 17:56:16 2008
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:56:16 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809121529g30572cddk2fd313e07217b331@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000101c9152a$c3361140$2401a8c0@AB>

Agree. Always wondered why MS hasn't supplied that.

Asger

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Sendt: 13. september 2008 00:30
Til: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Emne: Re: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer

That's certainly a solution for this specific problem, but I still think
there's a business case for a transaction log reader.

A.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk> wrote:

> For this I would create an audittable and a FOR DELETE TRIGGER.
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 18:36:45 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:36:45 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
In-Reply-To: <000101c9152a$c3361140$2401a8c0@AB>
References: <29f585dd0809121529g30572cddk2fd313e07217b331@mail.gmail.com>
	<000101c9152a$c3361140$2401a8c0@AB>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809121636l633daeb0h75fa61de14f08f31@mail.gmail.com>

IMO: it's more fun and less expensive for MS to let the 3rd party community
develop solutions and then reverse engineer them and roll them into a future
version and thus bankrupt the 3rd party (unless the 3rd party expects this
and is working on future solutions). Case in point, Lumigent.

A.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk> wrote:

> Agree. Always wondered why MS hasn't supplied that.
>
> Asger
>


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 23:37:39 2008
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:37:39 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs
In-Reply-To: <000401c9139a$3a813f50$2401a8c0@AB>
References: <000301c91393$14ca91f0$2401a8c0@AB>
	<000401c9139a$3a813f50$2401a8c0@AB>
Message-ID: <b874372a0809122137h3defe5b9s295e0401623ca4d3@mail.gmail.com>

I completely agree,  In my environment we now also have VLDB's and in those
systems the transaction log is typically between 15-30gb large depending on
which system we're talking about... I have an automatic alert that fire's
off when the transaction log hits 60% of it's total size and performs a
backup.  This effectively prevents the log from over-growing.  At night I
perform a Differential backup and  this allows me to drop the transaction
logs within 1week so that I don't eat up too much disk space.  I am using
Red-Gate's Sql Backup so I compress all my backups, for my largest database,
a compressed backup generally looks like 250gbs and takes between 2-3hrs
depending on network traffic.

I also do have a script for shrinking the log files that fires off once a
week, but generally this does not occur to often (it's also set on an alert)
the purpose is that this should not fire often if all the other backups are
occuring at regular intrevals, over-shrinking your file then re-growing it
on NTFS causes huge disk fragmentation if you are using SAN disk, then the
amout of fragmentation depends on the vendor of SAN you are using...



-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk> wrote:

> Just a second comment for Arthur:
>
> You wrote: "Now we back up the log (only the log) four times a day and
> nightly do a dbcc shrinkfile"
>
> To my mind a DBCC SHRINKFILE is an emergency command which should NOT be
> included in an automated administrative task.
>
> DBCC SHRINKFILE will free truncated file-space to the operating system.
> This
> may be a reasonable action if the log-file has been bloating. Otherwise it
> certainly is not: freeing truncated file-space to the operation system will
> force SQL Server to allocate new file-space for the log as needed, and this
> will be a great invitation for file fragmentation at the disk level.
>
> Asger
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Asger
> Blond
> Sendt: 11. september 2008 00:18
> Til: 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server'
> Emne: Re: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs
>
> Hi Susan and Arthur,
>
> The transaction is only truncated if you:
>
> 1. Set the database to SIMPLE RECOVERY MODEL. This recovery model equals
> the
> obsolete command SET TRUNCATE ON CHECKPOINT ON, meaning that the log is
> automatically truncated when a checkpoint is performed (normally every 1
> minute). However, setting the database to SIMPLE RECOVERY MODEL will not
> allow you to make backups of the transaction log - so this is not a
> reasonable choice for an OLTP-database.
> OR:
> 2. Perform a manual truncation of the log issuing the command BACKUP LOG
> <mydatabase> WITH TRUNCATE_ONLY. This command should only be used as an
> emergency if the database log for some reason is bloating.
> OR:
> 3. Perform a log-backup at regular intervals. Notice that only a log-backup
> will truncate the log, a full or differential backup won't.
>
> Of these options I normally would prefer the last for an OLTP-database.
>
> If I'm not wrong this may be an answer to Arthur's statement: "I don't know
> what I'm doing right."
>
> Asger
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur
> Fuller
> Sendt: 10. september 2008 22:32
> Til: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
> Emne: Re: [dba-SQLServer] full transaction logs
>
> I know that some people have received a message that their transaction log
> is full, but I personally never have. I don't know what I'm doing right.
> Recently we changed our strategy on transaction logs. Now we back up the
> log
> (only the log) four times a day and nightly do a dbcc shrinkfile, so the
> living log is peanuts compared to what it used  to be. Before I got here
> there was a nightly process that dropped a table and then recreated it and
> did thousands of inserts. As a result, the log file was huge -- way larger
> than the 18 gig db itself. We changed that process dramatically and the log
> file shrank dramatically too.
> Arthur
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Are full transaction logs still a problem in 2005 and 2008? I'm just
> > wondering if they've done anything automatic to warn the administrator or
> > to
> > avoid the problem altogether.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Sep 13 14:43:52 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:43:52 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] transactions not logged
Message-ID: <0ced01c915d9$0e30de60$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

I'm looking for a comprehensive list of transactions not tracked and logged 
in the transaction log, but so far, no luck. If you have something 
bookmarked, please share.

Susan H. 



From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Sat Sep 13 16:54:57 2008
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:54:57 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] transactions not logged
In-Reply-To: <0ced01c915d9$0e30de60$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <000001c915eb$5d055c20$2401a8c0@AB>


>From http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272093

"In the full recovery model, every change to the database is logged."
"In the Bulk-logged model, minimal logging may be performed for the
following operations to save transaction log space: 
? Bulk load operations, including bcp and BULK INSERT. 
? CREATE INDEX, including indexed views. 
? SELECT INTO 
? WRITETEXT 
? UPDATETEXT 
? DTS with Use Fast Load and Table Lock enabled."


Don't know if this is a comprehensive list.

Asger


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Sendt: 13. september 2008 21:44
Til: SQLList
Emne: [dba-SQLServer] transactions not logged

I'm looking for a comprehensive list of transactions not tracked and logged 
in the transaction log, but so far, no luck. If you have something 
bookmarked, please share.

Susan H. 

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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Mon Sep 15 06:24:34 2008
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:24:34 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
In-Reply-To: <000001c91522$d43d2c60$2401a8c0@AB>
References: <38c884770809120025n54f37781y764c9a1767779b38@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001c91522$d43d2c60$2401a8c0@AB>
Message-ID: <38c884770809150424l3b9b3e42ta9a0aa771a00ca0@mail.gmail.com>

Asger,

I have created a FOR DELETE trigger, and fingers crossed no more records
have disappeared since, however how do I view the trigger that I have
created in SQL Server 2005 ?

Thanks for your help.

Paul

2008/9/12 Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk>

> For this I would create an audittable and a FOR DELETE TRIGGER.
> Suppose your tblPersonnel has columns like PersonnelID, FirstName, and
> LastName. You want to audit the record deleted plus the time of the event,
> and the user performing the deletion:
>
> CREATE TABLE AuditDelete
> (PersonnelID int, FirstName varchar(30), LastName varchar (30), Deletion
> varchar(100) DEFAULT CONVERT(varchar(50), GETDATE()) + '. By: ' +
> SUSER_SNAME())
> GO
>
> CREATE TRIGGER tr_tblPersonnel_Delete ON tblPersonnel FOR DELETE AS
> INSERT INTO AuditTable (PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName) SELECT
> PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName FROM deleted
> GO
>
> Using a delete-trigger your can also cancel the event issuing a rollback.
> Suppose you want to prevent deletion of multiple rows in the personnel
> table, you could create the trigger like this:
>
> CREATE TRIGGER tr_tblPersonnel_Delete ON tblPersonnel FOR DELETE AS
> IF (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM deleted) > 1
> BEGIN
>        RAISERROR ('Deletion of multiple records not permitted!',16,1)
>        ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
> END
> ELSE
> INSERT INTO AuditTable (PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName) SELECT
> PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName FROM deleted
> GO
>
> Asger
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> Hartland
> Sendt: 12. september 2008 09:26
> Til: Access List; SQLServerList
> Emne: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
>
> To all,
>
> Over the last two days we have been losing personnel off our main database,
> and have had to retrieve them from one of my many backups.  However I can't
> seem to see why or where this is happening in my application (VB6)...Does
> anybody know how to view the LDF files, so that I can see each transaction
> as it takes place, or if there is something I can do when a record is
> deleted from tblPersonnel, or if I can turn on some sort of monitoring
> system ?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>
> --
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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Mon Sep 15 07:11:48 2008
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:11:48 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
In-Reply-To: <38c884770809150424l3b9b3e42ta9a0aa771a00ca0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38c884770809120025n54f37781y764c9a1767779b38@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001c91522$d43d2c60$2401a8c0@AB>
	<38c884770809150424l3b9b3e42ta9a0aa771a00ca0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38c884770809150511g7c238d4ey71b41fbaee7e91d7@mail.gmail.com>

Please ignore last email from me asking where Triggers are stored, was
having blonde moment...

Thanks again for everyone's help.

Paul

2008/9/15 Paul Hartland <paul.hartland at googlemail.com>

>  Asger,
>
> I have created a FOR DELETE trigger, and fingers crossed no more records
> have disappeared since, however how do I view the trigger that I have
> created in SQL Server 2005 ?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Paul
>
> 2008/9/12 Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk>
>
> For this I would create an audittable and a FOR DELETE TRIGGER.
>> Suppose your tblPersonnel has columns like PersonnelID, FirstName, and
>> LastName. You want to audit the record deleted plus the time of the event,
>> and the user performing the deletion:
>>
>> CREATE TABLE AuditDelete
>> (PersonnelID int, FirstName varchar(30), LastName varchar (30), Deletion
>> varchar(100) DEFAULT CONVERT(varchar(50), GETDATE()) + '. By: ' +
>> SUSER_SNAME())
>> GO
>>
>> CREATE TRIGGER tr_tblPersonnel_Delete ON tblPersonnel FOR DELETE AS
>> INSERT INTO AuditTable (PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName) SELECT
>> PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName FROM deleted
>> GO
>>
>> Using a delete-trigger your can also cancel the event issuing a rollback.
>> Suppose you want to prevent deletion of multiple rows in the personnel
>> table, you could create the trigger like this:
>>
>> CREATE TRIGGER tr_tblPersonnel_Delete ON tblPersonnel FOR DELETE AS
>> IF (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM deleted) > 1
>> BEGIN
>>        RAISERROR ('Deletion of multiple records not permitted!',16,1)
>>        ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
>> END
>> ELSE
>> INSERT INTO AuditTable (PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName) SELECT
>> PersonnelID, FirstName, LastName FROM deleted
>> GO
>>
>> Asger
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Paul
>> Hartland
>> Sendt: 12. september 2008 09:26
>> Til: Access List; SQLServerList
>> Emne: [dba-SQLServer] SQL Server 2005 LDF Viewer
>>
>> To all,
>>
>> Over the last two days we have been losing personnel off our main
>> database,
>> and have had to retrieve them from one of my many backups.  However I
>> can't
>> seem to see why or where this is happening in my application (VB6)...Does
>> anybody know how to view the LDF files, so that I can see each transaction
>> as it takes place, or if there is something I can do when a record is
>> deleted from tblPersonnel, or if I can turn on some sort of monitoring
>> system ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Hartland
>> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
>>  _______________________________________________
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>> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
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>



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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 13:09:34 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:09:34 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Bulk insert puzzle
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809151109r70dc42a8td44baab5ff543d96@mail.gmail.com>

I have a peculiar puzzle here. I will soon embark on a new project in which
I'll be using SSIS to grab millions of rows coming in daily. A c++ component
will be reading a stream and writing the data. Our original concept was that
the c++ component would do inserts into a staging table and occasionally
flush that table, moving the data into the real database. Now that we see
the speed and quantity of the incoming data, we are not so sure we will be
able to keep up. So I have been investigating the possibility of using Bulk
Insert from many text files, so the process would be something along the
lines of:

1. c++ writes a new file every 10k rows.
2. bulk insert kicks in and inserts that entire file into a staging table.
3. destroy the file just inserted.
4. move the data from the staging table to the real database.
5. Repeat until the last text file has been deleted.

So the algorithm is fairly clear (although as always subject to adjustment
as we move into development and production).

I have some sample data of the type we will be receiving. This morning I
created an SSIS package using the Import/Export wizard to dump that data to
a csv file. Fine, so far. Then I created a bulk insert script. First here is
the table structure:

<sql>
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[BPODMessage_Staging](
 [SecurityIDBSID] [bigint] NOT NULL,
 [MessageName] [varchar](200) NOT NULL,
 [FieldName] [varchar](200) NOT NULL,
 [DataValue] [varchar](50) NULL,
 [TimeOfUpdate] [datetime] NOT NULL,
 [Ts] [timestamp] NOT NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO

</sql>

Here is the next part of the puzzle:

<sql>

PRINT GETDATE()
BULK INSERT BPOD.dbo.BPODMessage_Staging
FROM 'C:\Documents and Settings\afuller\My Documents\BPOD\BPOD_Message.txt'
WITH (FIRSTROW=1, BATCHSIZE = 1000, FIELDTERMINATOR=',', ROWTERMINATOR='\n')
PRINT GETDATE()

</sql>

This results in these error messages:

<sql>

Msg 4866, Level 16, State 1, Line 2
The bulk load failed. The column is too long in the data file for row 1,
column 1. Verify that the field terminator and row terminator are specified
correctly.
Msg 7399, Level 16, State 1, Line 2
The OLE DB provider "BULK" for linked server "(null)" reported an error. The
provider did not give any information about the error.
Msg 7330, Level 16, State 2, Line 2
Cannot fetch a row from OLE DB provider "BULK" for linked server "(null)".

</sql>

A line of the data I'm attempting to import looks like this:

<data>

678605358674,Summary.Message,Summary.Last.Bid.Time,20080703
11:56:21.000,2008-07-03 08:54:31.820000000,000000001ABA0AC1

</data>

Given that the staging table was created by scripting the final table to a
Create To | New Query window and then created, how could data that came from
an identical structure now suddenly not fit?

Any ideas?

TIA,

Arthur


From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Sep 15 13:58:17 2008
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:58:17 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
Message-ID: <20080915185710.BTPW29348.mta06.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

I am wanting to convert the following access line into SQL:

Format(12345,"#,##0")

Is there an equivalent SQL command to use in a stored procedure?  The 
result is then to be cast into a varchar to be appended to another varchar.


Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand 



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 14:13:55 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:55 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] AdventureWorks.csv
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809151213k9418462obb1d009e21adf7e0@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a copy of this file that is allegedly part of the build
script for the AdventureWorks sample database? It is alleged to be on my
hard disk already and if not, then downloadable from MS, but I can't find it
in either location.

If you have a copy, would you kindly zip it and send it to me off-list?

TIA,
Arthur


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Sep 15 16:30:03 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:30:03 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] AdventureWorks.csv
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809151213k9418462obb1d009e21adf7e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809151213k9418462obb1d009e21adf7e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DC6C82DDD93946A6B8E6AD0B98DD77C9@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Arthur:

I am not sure what you are needing but the entire adventureworks download is
available at:
http://www.codeplex.com/MSFTDBProdSamples/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?Relea
seId=16040

Everything must be in this package group.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:14 PM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] AdventureWorks.csv

Does anyone have a copy of this file that is allegedly part of the build
script for the AdventureWorks sample database? It is alleged to be on my
hard disk already and if not, then downloadable from MS, but I can't find it
in either location.

If you have a copy, would you kindly zip it and send it to me off-list?

TIA,
Arthur
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Sep 15 17:46:00 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:46:00 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Bulk insert puzzle
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809151109r70dc42a8td44baab5ff543d96@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809151109r70dc42a8td44baab5ff543d96@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CF7248.17449.C79D90E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Just a WAG, but do you have a header line in the file containing the field 
names.

That would cause a problem reading Row 1, Column 1 with FirstLine = 1 
and the first column being a BIGINT.



On 15 Sep 2008 at 15:09, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I have a peculiar puzzle here. I will soon embark on a new project in which
> I'll be using SSIS to grab millions of rows coming in daily. A c++ component
> will be reading a stream and writing the data. Our original concept was that
> the c++ component would do inserts into a staging table and occasionally
> flush that table, moving the data into the real database. Now that we see
> the speed and quantity of the incoming data, we are not so sure we will be
> able to keep up. So I have been investigating the possibility of using Bulk
> Insert from many text files, so the process would be something along the
> lines of:
> 
> 1. c++ writes a new file every 10k rows.
> 2. bulk insert kicks in and inserts that entire file into a staging table.
> 3. destroy the file just inserted.
> 4. move the data from the staging table to the real database.
> 5. Repeat until the last text file has been deleted.
> 
> So the algorithm is fairly clear (although as always subject to adjustment
> as we move into development and production).
> 
> I have some sample data of the type we will be receiving. This morning I
> created an SSIS package using the Import/Export wizard to dump that data to
> a csv file. Fine, so far. Then I created a bulk insert script. First here is
> the table structure:
> 
> <sql>
> CREATE TABLE [dbo].[BPODMessage_Staging](
>  [SecurityIDBSID] [bigint] NOT NULL,
>  [MessageName] [varchar](200) NOT NULL,
>  [FieldName] [varchar](200) NOT NULL,
>  [DataValue] [varchar](50) NULL,
>  [TimeOfUpdate] [datetime] NOT NULL,
>  [Ts] [timestamp] NOT NULL
> ) ON [PRIMARY]
> GO
> 
> </sql>
> 
> Here is the next part of the puzzle:
> 
> <sql>
> 
> PRINT GETDATE()
> BULK INSERT BPOD.dbo.BPODMessage_Staging
> FROM 'C:\Documents and Settings\afuller\My Documents\BPOD\BPOD_Message.txt'
> WITH (FIRSTROW=1, BATCHSIZE = 1000, FIELDTERMINATOR=',', ROWTERMINATOR='\n')
> PRINT GETDATE()
> 
> </sql>
> 
> This results in these error messages:
> 
> <sql>
> 
> Msg 4866, Level 16, State 1, Line 2
> The bulk load failed. The column is too long in the data file for row 1,
> column 1. Verify that the field terminator and row terminator are specified
> correctly.
> Msg 7399, Level 16, State 1, Line 2
> The OLE DB provider "BULK" for linked server "(null)" reported an error. The
> provider did not give any information about the error.
> Msg 7330, Level 16, State 2, Line 2
> Cannot fetch a row from OLE DB provider "BULK" for linked server "(null)".
> 
> </sql>
> 
> A line of the data I'm attempting to import looks like this:
> 
> <data>
> 
> 678605358674,Summary.Message,Summary.Last.Bid.Time,20080703
> 11:56:21.000,2008-07-03 08:54:31.820000000,000000001ABA0AC1
> 
> </data>
> 
> Given that the staging table was created by scripting the final table to a
> Create To | New Query window and then created, how could data that came from
> an identical structure now suddenly not fit?
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 18:09:06 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:09:06 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Bulk insert puzzle
In-Reply-To: <48CF7248.17449.C79D90E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <29f585dd0809151109r70dc42a8td44baab5ff543d96@mail.gmail.com>
	<48CF7248.17449.C79D90E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809151609rf7b1532v5e14661de4ccd950@mail.gmail.com>

No header line. Tried straight comma-delimited, tried quoted csv (double and
single), so far no joy. I don't get it.

A.

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>wrote:

> Just a WAG, but do you have a header line in the file containing the field
> names.
>
> That would cause a problem reading Row 1, Column 1 with FirstLine = 1
> and the first column being a BIGINT.
>
>
>


From mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Sep 15 19:27:55 2008
From: mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com (Mike Tope)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:27:55 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] ASP to 64-bit
Message-ID: <009901c91793$13544150$0207a8c0@charybdis>

Dear List
Wonder if anyone else has come up against this and can give me a pointer. 
I'm normally a lurker, and usually well behind the times - I only get to 
this email late at night (in London) so don't expect instant conversation.

Anyway, there exist several SQL 2000 databases using ASP front ends (I 
didn't write them). They run on the same server as the Internet Information 
Server serving them. Our office in Aberdeen has kindly chosen to install a 
64-bit operating system, and install SQL 2005. Obviously, the test database 
doesn't work.

First advice I saw was to change the connection string to use SQLOLEDB. This 
enabled the front screen to open, which uses a Set rs=OpenRecordset 
construction.
However, the later screens where rs=cmd.Execute was used, failed, and I saw 
pointers suggesting that the parameters object needed to be overtly 
declared. Not that the particular page had parameters, but anyway that was 
going to involve recoding some hundreds of ASP files.

I learnt that it was possible to enable 32-bit apps within 64-bit IBIS by 
running a single vbs command in the Admin web site utility - this is now 
done. I can connect to the first page using a DSN equivalent to the original 
but set up in odbcad32.exe in the SysWoW64 folder rather than control panel, 
Admin Tasks, ODBC.

But it falls down at the same point - setting a recordset to cmd.Execute 
gives me a server error 500. I could recode around the Selects, but what 
about the Inserts, Modifies and Deletes ? VBscript is of course not 32-bit 
enabled so my testing options are limited.

Am I missing something obvious ? I can't entertain the idea of rewriting the 
entire set.

Regards
Mike Tope 



From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Tue Sep 16 05:09:37 2008
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:09:37 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] ASP to 64-bit
References: <009901c91793$13544150$0207a8c0@charybdis>
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D013C003B@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Hi Mike,

Taking a wild stab here...
I suspect you need to make sure that the user has select permissions on
the tables.
Not the most secure thing to do but it seems you are executing strings
in the ASP and
returning recordsets so table level permissions will be required.
Havn't done any ASP classic in years and never with 64-bit SQL...

Cheers

Michael M



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Tope
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2008 10:28 AM
To: Dba-SqlServer
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] ASP to 64-bit

Dear List
Wonder if anyone else has come up against this and can give me a
pointer. 
I'm normally a lurker, and usually well behind the times - I only get to

this email late at night (in London) so don't expect instant
conversation.

Anyway, there exist several SQL 2000 databases using ASP front ends (I 
didn't write them). They run on the same server as the Internet
Information 
Server serving them. Our office in Aberdeen has kindly chosen to install
a 
64-bit operating system, and install SQL 2005. Obviously, the test
database 
doesn't work.

First advice I saw was to change the connection string to use SQLOLEDB.
This 
enabled the front screen to open, which uses a Set rs=OpenRecordset 
construction.
However, the later screens where rs=cmd.Execute was used, failed, and I
saw 
pointers suggesting that the parameters object needed to be overtly 
declared. Not that the particular page had parameters, but anyway that
was 
going to involve recoding some hundreds of ASP files.

I learnt that it was possible to enable 32-bit apps within 64-bit IBIS
by 
running a single vbs command in the Admin web site utility - this is now

done. I can connect to the first page using a DSN equivalent to the
original 
but set up in odbcad32.exe in the SysWoW64 folder rather than control
panel, 
Admin Tasks, ODBC.

But it falls down at the same point - setting a recordset to cmd.Execute

gives me a server error 500. I could recode around the Selects, but what

about the Inserts, Modifies and Deletes ? VBscript is of course not
32-bit 
enabled so my testing options are limited.

Am I missing something obvious ? I can't entertain the idea of rewriting
the 
entire set.

Regards
Mike Tope 

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 09:43:38 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:43:38 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Return the result set of a sproc additively
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809160743v5d74bb86l5c788d05e33ea32e@mail.gmail.com>

I'm having a senior moment, but I know I have done this, and I think I have
written about how to do it, but I can't find the article and can't remember
how to do it, but I do know it can be done.

Here's the gist.

I want to call a sproc (which is just a select) N times and have the result
sets "unioned", as it were. Say for example we have 5 salespersons in a
company, and I want the sales of 4 of them. It's easy to grab the 4 selected
IDs, but then I want to go in and grab all the sales for those 4. This is
the important part: I don't want to rewrite the logic that's already there
to grab one salesperson's data. I want to call that sproc several times and
union the results.

I'm sure that I have done this but at the moment I can't remember how I did
it.

TIA,
Arthur


From robert at webedb.com  Tue Sep 16 10:03:10 2008
From: robert at webedb.com (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:03:10 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Return the result set of a sproc additively
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21874.1221576223.10715.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvis
	ors.com>
References: <mailman.21874.1221576223.10715.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200809161506.m8GF6E7g030862@databaseadvisors.com>

Use temp tables to hold the data until you can union it.


At 09:43 AM 9/16/2008, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:43:38 -0300
>From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Return the result set of a sproc additively
>To: "Discussion concerning MS SQL Server"
>         <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <29f585dd0809160743v5d74bb86l5c788d05e33ea32e at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>I'm having a senior moment, but I know I have done this, and I think I have
>written about how to do it, but I can't find the article and can't remember
>how to do it, but I do know it can be done.
>
>Here's the gist.
>
>I want to call a sproc (which is just a select) N times and have the result
>sets "unioned", as it were. Say for example we have 5 salespersons in a
>company, and I want the sales of 4 of them. It's easy to grab the 4 selected
>IDs, but then I want to go in and grab all the sales for those 4. This is
>the important part: I don't want to rewrite the logic that's already there
>to grab one salesperson's data. I want to call that sproc several times and
>union the results.
>
>I'm sure that I have done this but at the moment I can't remember how I did
>it.
>
>TIA,
>Arthur




From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Sep 16 12:19:50 2008
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:19:50 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
Message-ID: <20080916171845.FPPQ13966.mta02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Since I didn't get a reply I will try another tact.

There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access 
Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number 
like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?


Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand  



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 12:23:35 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:23:35 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
References: <20080916171845.FPPQ13966.mta02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <18bb01c91820$f405ca10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>


> There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access 
> Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number 
> like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?

====First, is it 12345 or 12345.00? Or, could it be either? 

Susan H. 


From Elizabeth.J.Doering at wellsfargo.com  Tue Sep 16 12:31:09 2008
From: Elizabeth.J.Doering at wellsfargo.com (Elizabeth.J.Doering at wellsfargo.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:31:09 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
References: <20080916171845.FPPQ13966.mta02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <AF469F21946F6442B5D4FF79AB854D648642DD@msgswbmnmsp45.wellsfargo.com>


Are you trying to stick the commas in?  'cause if you cast it as a
varchar 

	print '$' + cast(12345 as varchar)

you can append it to other varchars, but you don't get commas.  If you
find out how to do those, I would like to know too.

Thanks,


Liz   


 
 
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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
Emerson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:20 PM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL

Since I didn't get a reply I will try another tact.

There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access
Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number like
12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?


Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand  

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From delam at zyterra.com  Tue Sep 16 12:37:15 2008
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie Elam)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:37:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
Message-ID: <20080916173712.MONB5778.atlmtaow01.cingularme.com@Inbox>

Since SQL is a backend only, this sort of formatting is not generally handled there.  Access does formatting at the table level because it is also a front end and can pass that seamlessly.

Just set the data type to integer if you do not want any decimals to be stored.  Otherwise, set the format at the front end.

Debbie 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:19 PM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL

Since I didn't get a reply I will try another tact.

There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access 
Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number 
like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?


Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand  

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Sep 16 13:03:59 2008
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:03:59 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
In-Reply-To: <18bb01c91820$f405ca10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <20080916171845.FPPQ13966.mta02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
	<18bb01c91820$f405ca10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <20080916180728.NQYR22271.mta04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Sorry about the confusion - it is money type (12345.00)

At 17/09/2008, you wrote:

> > There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access
> > Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number
> > like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?
>
>====First, is it 12345 or 12345.00? Or, could it be either?
>
>Susan H.
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Sep 16 13:08:27 2008
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:08:27 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
In-Reply-To: <20080916173712.MONB5778.atlmtaow01.cingularme.com@Inbox>
References: <20080916173712.MONB5778.atlmtaow01.cingularme.com@Inbox>
Message-ID: <20080916180734.NRES22271.mta04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks.  I was hoping to be able to do it in SQL as there are other 
manipulations to do before getting to the front end, but it looks 
like your suggestion is the only easy option.

At 17/09/2008, you wrote:
>Since SQL is a backend only, this sort of formatting is not 
>generally handled there.  Access does formatting at the table level 
>because it is also a front end and can pass that seamlessly.
>
>Just set the data type to integer if you do not want any decimals to 
>be stored.  Otherwise, set the format at the front end.
>
>Debbie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:19 PM
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
>
>Since I didn't get a reply I will try another tact.
>
>There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access
>Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number
>like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?
>
>
>Regards
>
>David Emerson
>Dalyn Software Ltd
>Wellington, New Zealand
>
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From fahooper at trapo.com  Tue Sep 16 13:08:04 2008
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:08:04 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
In-Reply-To: <20080916171845.FPPQ13966.mta02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <7E98EF3B553149BBA8A92DC97DC754C1@FRED6998B25045>

If you only want two decimal places you can use money, like this:

select convert(varchar, convert(money, 12345) ,1)

returns "12,345.00"

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From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
Emerson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:20 PM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL

Since I didn't get a reply I will try another tact.

There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access 
Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number 
like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?


Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand  

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Sep 16 16:41:49 2008
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:41:49 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
In-Reply-To: <7E98EF3B553149BBA8A92DC97DC754C1@FRED6998B25045>
References: <20080916171845.FPPQ13966.mta02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
	<7E98EF3B553149BBA8A92DC97DC754C1@FRED6998B25045>
Message-ID: <20080916214026.HUXJ22271.mta04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

I tried that but still got "12345.00"

I am using SQL2000.

Regards

David

At 17/09/2008, you wrote:
>If you only want two decimal places you can use money, like this:
>
>select convert(varchar, convert(money, 12345) ,1)
>
>returns "12,345.00"
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
>Emerson
>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:20 PM
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
>
>Since I didn't get a reply I will try another tact.
>
>There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access
>Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number
>like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?
>
>
>Regards
>
>David Emerson
>Dalyn Software Ltd
>Wellington, New Zealand
>
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From fahooper at trapo.com  Tue Sep 16 16:58:05 2008
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:58:05 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
In-Reply-To: <20080916214026.HUXJ22271.mta04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <D8C027F08D4541D1B12A3EFD0C75FE9A@FRED6998B25045>

Hi David,

I don't have 2000 to test on, but the documentation
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa226054(SQL.80).aspx) says it
ought to work. Maybe you have a regional setting that's affecting it, (I
found a link where an integer was formatted with commas that was due to a
regional setting -- perhaps you have the opposite effect).

You could also try the DLL at
http://www.databasepronews.com/articles/0220df.html if it's important
enough. (I haven't tried it, just found it.)

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
Emerson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:42 PM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL

I tried that but still got "12345.00"

I am using SQL2000.

Regards

David

At 17/09/2008, you wrote:
>If you only want two decimal places you can use money, like this:
>
>select convert(varchar, convert(money, 12345) ,1)
>
>returns "12,345.00"
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
>Emerson
>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:20 PM
>To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
>
>Since I didn't get a reply I will try another tact.
>
>There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access
>Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number
>like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?
>
>
>Regards
>
>David Emerson
>Dalyn Software Ltd
>Wellington, New Zealand
>
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 17:43:10 2008
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:43:10 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
In-Reply-To: <20080916214026.HUXJ22271.mta04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
References: <20080916171845.FPPQ13966.mta02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
	<7E98EF3B553149BBA8A92DC97DC754C1@FRED6998B25045>
	<20080916214026.HUXJ22271.mta04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00809161543s20824ec9rc7dde0af01d92823@mail.gmail.com>

IN QA, I got the same result as Fred.

12,345.00

select '$ ' + CAST(convert(varchar, convert(money, 12345) ,1) AS
VARCHAR(12)) as Cash

will handle up to 9,999,999.99

David

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:

> I tried that but still got "12345.00"
>
> I am using SQL2000.
>
> Regards
>
> David
>
> At 17/09/2008, you wrote:
> >If you only want two decimal places you can use money, like this:
> >
> >select convert(varchar, convert(money, 12345) ,1)
> >
> >returns "12,345.00"
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
> >Emerson
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:20 PM
> >To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
> >
> >Since I didn't get a reply I will try another tact.
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access
> >Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number
> >like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?
> >
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >David Emerson
> >Dalyn Software Ltd
> >Wellington, New Zealand
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >dba-SQLServer mailing list
> >dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> >http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Sep 16 17:47:49 2008
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:47:49 +1200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00809161543s20824ec9rc7dde0af01d92823@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <20080916171845.FPPQ13966.mta02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
	<7E98EF3B553149BBA8A92DC97DC754C1@FRED6998B25045>
	<20080916214026.HUXJ22271.mta04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
	<8786a4c00809161543s20824ec9rc7dde0af01d92823@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080916224644.XGIX9034.mta07.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

I have spotted the problem - I omitted the ,1 at the end.

Thanks everyone for your help.

David

At 17/09/2008, you wrote:
>IN QA, I got the same result as Fred.
>
>12,345.00
>
>select '$ ' + CAST(convert(varchar, convert(money, 12345) ,1) AS
>VARCHAR(12)) as Cash
>
>will handle up to 9,999,999.99
>
>David
>
>On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > I tried that but still got "12345.00"
> >
> > I am using SQL2000.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > David
> >
> > At 17/09/2008, you wrote:
> > >If you only want two decimal places you can use money, like this:
> > >
> > >select convert(varchar, convert(money, 12345) ,1)
> > >
> > >returns "12,345.00"
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
> > >Emerson
> > >Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:20 PM
> > >To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Formatting Numbers IN SQL
> > >
> > >Since I didn't get a reply I will try another tact.
> > >
> > >There doesn't seem to be an SQL equivalent to the Access
> > >Format(12345,"#,##0").  What is the simplest way of taking a number
> > >like 12345.00 and converting it to a varchar "12,345"?
> > >
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >David Emerson
> > >Dalyn Software Ltd
> > >Wellington, New Zealand



From mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Sep 16 18:36:06 2008
From: mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com (Mike Tope)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:36:06 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] ASP to 64-bit
References: <009901c91793$13544150$0207a8c0@charybdis>
	<59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D013C003B@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <004b01c91854$fe258100$0207a8c0@charybdis>

Thanks Michael, but been there.
I created a whole new user in SQL Server, granted rights, set default 
database, and ensured SQL login rather than Windows Authentication. To get 
the front page required select rights; I eventually granted db owner rights.

I'm thinking now it might not be a 64-bit issue at all but just a difference 
between SQLServer 2000 and 2005. That I should be able to test as we have 
2005 Express running in 32-bit in our office, separate from the main SQL 
2000 server. Even so, if it ends up involving recoding every cmd.Execute 
it's going to take forever.

Regards
Mike Tope

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Discussion concerning MS SQL Server" 
<dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] ASP to 64-bit


> Hi Mike,
>
> Taking a wild stab here...
> I suspect you need to make sure that the user has select permissions on
> the tables.
> Not the most secure thing to do but it seems you are executing strings
> in the ASP and
> returning recordsets so table level permissions will be required.
> Havn't done any ASP classic in years and never with 64-bit SQL...
>
> Cheers
>
> Michael M
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike
> Tope
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2008 10:28 AM
> To: Dba-SqlServer
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] ASP to 64-bit
>
> Dear List
> Wonder if anyone else has come up against this and can give me a
> pointer.
> I'm normally a lurker, and usually well behind the times - I only get to
>
> this email late at night (in London) so don't expect instant
> conversation.
>
> Anyway, there exist several SQL 2000 databases using ASP front ends (I
> didn't write them). They run on the same server as the Internet
> Information
> Server serving them. Our office in Aberdeen has kindly chosen to install
> a
> 64-bit operating system, and install SQL 2005. Obviously, the test
> database
> doesn't work.
>
> First advice I saw was to change the connection string to use SQLOLEDB.
> This
> enabled the front screen to open, which uses a Set rs=OpenRecordset
> construction.
> However, the later screens where rs=cmd.Execute was used, failed, and I
> saw
> pointers suggesting that the parameters object needed to be overtly
> declared. Not that the particular page had parameters, but anyway that
> was
> going to involve recoding some hundreds of ASP files.
>
> I learnt that it was possible to enable 32-bit apps within 64-bit IBIS
> by
> running a single vbs command in the Admin web site utility - this is now
>
> done. I can connect to the first page using a DSN equivalent to the
> original
> but set up in odbcad32.exe in the SysWoW64 folder rather than control
> panel,
> Admin Tasks, ODBC.
>
> But it falls down at the same point - setting a recordset to cmd.Execute
>
> gives me a server error 500. I could recode around the Selects, but what
>
> about the Inserts, Modifies and Deletes ? VBscript is of course not
> 32-bit
> enabled so my testing options are limited.
>
> Am I missing something obvious ? I can't entertain the idea of rewriting
> the
> entire set.
>
> Regards
> Mike Tope



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 13:42:22 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:42:22 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Line Numbers
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809171142t26418585me57e720f953629a9@mail.gmail.com>

Does the editor in Management Studio recognize logical or physical line
numbers? Given this code...

<sql>
  CREATE TABLE
   #TempCash_Consideration (
     PPersonContactType_ID  int
     , Currency_ID int
     , CashValue decimal(18,2)
     , CashValue_FXH decimal(18,2)
     , Withdrawals decimal(18,2)
     , Contributions decimal(18,2))

</sql>

... does the editor regard this as one logical line? The reason I'm asking
is that I have an error trapping routine that reports the procedure name and
line number, but the line reported doesn't make sense. It's an
occasional problem with a deadlock, but the line reported to be the problem
is the above, which doesn't make sense. The lines after this one do an
INSERT | SELECT. Could that be the problem?

Arthur


From nancy.lytle at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 14:14:02 2008
From: nancy.lytle at gmail.com (Nancy Lytle)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:14:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Line Numbers
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809171142t26418585me57e720f953629a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809171142t26418585me57e720f953629a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY134-W3044D2CA0B8948376184F9844C0@phx.gbl>

For what it is worth, I know that in Management Studio I can never really rely on the error message to 'point' to the correct line of code, it is usually the one below the 'line' I'm given in the message.
Nancy Lytle N_Lytle at terpalum.umd.edu



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> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:42:22 -0300> From: fuller.artful at gmail.com> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Line Numbers> > Does the editor in Management Studio recognize logical or physical line> numbers? Given this code...> > <sql>> CREATE TABLE> #TempCash_Consideration (> PPersonContactType_ID int> , Currency_ID int> , CashValue decimal(18,2)> , CashValue_FXH decimal(18,2)> , Withdrawals decimal(18,2)> , Contributions decimal(18,2))> > </sql>> > ... does the editor regard this as one logical line? The reason I'm asking> is that I have an error trapping routine that reports the procedure name and> line number, but the line reported doesn't make sense. It's an> occasional problem with a deadlock, but the line reported to be the problem> is the above, which doesn't make sense. The lines after this one do an> INSERT | SELECT. Could that be the problem?> > Arthur> _______________________________________________> dba-SQLServer mailing list> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver> http://www.databaseadvisors.com> 

From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Thu Sep 18 01:53:54 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:53:54 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Controlling Trigger
In-Reply-To: <BAY134-W3044D2CA0B8948376184F9844C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076DA26F80@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>


Hi Everyone,

I am trying to create an transaction audit table using a trigger - I have one for Udate, Delete, Insert. However, whenever I make a change the trigger will record every record in the table as being update, rather than just the txn in question.  I can see why this happens (as it is pretty much what i have coded), But how do I pass the active record KeyID (BaselineID in this case) to the SQL Trigger from Access?  All I want to record is the record in the table that has changed, but am getting the entire table instead.

Any Pointers?

Cheers
Darryl.

Code below:


' --------------------------------------------------------------
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO


/* #############################################################*/
/*      Changes to ITFCT_tblBaselineData UPDATE Trigger */
/* #############################################################*/

        ALTER   TRIGGER trgUpd_tblBaseline
        ON ITFCT_tblBaselineData
        FOR UPDATE AS

        INSERT INTO [dbo].ITFCT_audBaselineData
                ([BaselineID],
                [IsCurrent],
                [ProductCode],
                [ProjectCode],
                [SkillGroup],
                [Component],
                [ResourceOrItem],
                [StandardTaskID],
                [StandardTaskAdd],
                [MECID],
                [SpendTypeID],
                [AccTreatmentID],
                [AccountingSplit],
                [ValueAUD],
                [ValueOpex],
                [ValueCapex],
                [SourceID],
                [ForumRef],
                [ReleaseNote],
                [FYID],
                [Comments],
                [APLID],
                [EventTrigger]
                )

        SELECT [BaselineID],
                [IsCurrent],
                [ProductCode],
                [ProjectCode],
                [SkillGroup],
                [Component],
                [ResourceOrItem],
                [StandardTaskID],
                [StandardTaskAdd],
                [MECID],
                [SpendTypeID],
                [AccTreatmentID],
                [AccountingSplit],
                [ValueAUD],
                [ValueOpex],
                [ValueCapex],
                [SourceID],
                [ForumRef],
                [ReleaseNote],
                [FYID],
                [Comments],
                [APLID],
                'UPDATE'
        FROM ITFCT_tblBaselineData
        WHERE [BaselineID] = [BaselineID] ''' THIS BIT HERE NEEDS A TWEAK



GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO

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From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Thu Sep 18 02:08:03 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:08:03 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Controlling Trigger
In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076DA26F80@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
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Furrr-ghed-about-it!!

hehehe. I am a prize goose.

I forgot to add in "Inserted" at the bottom... duh!

Should read  "FROM Inserted ITFCT_tblBaselineData"
rather than  "FROM ITFCT_tblBaselineData"

all good now. :)

cheers
Darryl.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darryl
Collins
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 4:54 PM
To: 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server'
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Controlling Trigger



Hi Everyone,

I am trying to create an transaction audit table using a trigger - I have one for Udate, Delete, Insert. However, whenever I make a change the trigger will record every record in the table as being update, rather than just the txn in question.  I can see why this happens (as it is pretty much what i have coded), But how do I pass the active record KeyID (BaselineID in this case) to the SQL Trigger from Access?  All I want to record is the record in the table that has changed, but am getting the entire table instead.

Any Pointers?

Cheers
Darryl.

Code below:


' --------------------------------------------------------------
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO


/* #############################################################*/
/*      Changes to ITFCT_tblBaselineData UPDATE Trigger */
/* #############################################################*/

        ALTER   TRIGGER trgUpd_tblBaseline
        ON ITFCT_tblBaselineData
        FOR UPDATE AS

        INSERT INTO [dbo].ITFCT_audBaselineData
                ([BaselineID],
                [IsCurrent],
                [ProductCode],
                [ProjectCode],
                [SkillGroup],
                [Component],
                [ResourceOrItem],
                [StandardTaskID],
                [StandardTaskAdd],
                [MECID],
                [SpendTypeID],
                [AccTreatmentID],
                [AccountingSplit],
                [ValueAUD],
                [ValueOpex],
                [ValueCapex],
                [SourceID],
                [ForumRef],
                [ReleaseNote],
                [FYID],
                [Comments],
                [APLID],
                [EventTrigger]
                )

        SELECT [BaselineID],
                [IsCurrent],
                [ProductCode],
                [ProjectCode],
                [SkillGroup],
                [Component],
                [ResourceOrItem],
                [StandardTaskID],
                [StandardTaskAdd],
                [MECID],
                [SpendTypeID],
                [AccTreatmentID],
                [AccountingSplit],
                [ValueAUD],
                [ValueOpex],
                [ValueCapex],
                [SourceID],
                [ForumRef],
                [ReleaseNote],
                [FYID],
                [Comments],
                [APLID],
                'UPDATE'
        FROM ITFCT_tblBaselineData
        WHERE [BaselineID] = [BaselineID] ''' THIS BIT HERE NEEDS A TWEAK



GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO

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From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 09:33:37 2008
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:33:37 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
Message-ID: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

I wrote an upgrade to the classic ASP In/Out board my company uses in
ASP.NET.  The security cards we all have allow us access to the
building and the In/Out times are recorded in a SQL table.

I wonder if you could help me visualize a query that would total up
the elapsed time IN for an employee over a defined period of time,
say, from Monday at 12:01 AM to now.

The table, AccessEvents, contains these main fields:

EmployeeID
TimeStamp
AreaCode

The AreaCode contains either the area of the building that the
employee entered upon coming in, or the "outside", meaning that the
employee is out of the building.

Say that it's Thursday and the employee's AccessEvents records look
like the following (I've changed the AreaCode to In or Out for
simplicity):

337	2008-09-15 07:54:50.000	In
337	2008-09-15 11:59:56.000	Out
337	2008-09-15 12:38:24.000	In
337	2008-09-15 17:01:24.000	Out
337	2008-09-16 07:53:16.000	In
337	2008-09-16 11:58:00.000	Out
337	2008-09-16 12:33:35.000	In
337	2008-09-16 17:03:29.000	Out
337	2008-09-17 07:56:29.000	In
337	2008-09-17 11:59:14.000	Out
337	2008-09-17 12:49:41.000	In
337	2008-09-17 17:02:41.000	Out
337	2008-09-18 08:04:17.000	In

...and the employee wants to know how much time he's spent in the
building up to now, which is, say, 10:00AM on Thursday the 18th of
Sept.  It's easy enough to select these records, but I'm having
trouble visualizing how to sum the elapsed time spent IN the building,
including the time from his last In event to 10:00.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 10:08:44 2008
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:08:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>

Are we talking about using a SQL Cursor here?

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> I wrote an upgrade to the classic ASP In/Out board my company uses in
> ASP.NET.  The security cards we all have allow us access to the
> building and the In/Out times are recorded in a SQL table.
>
> I wonder if you could help me visualize a query that would total up
> the elapsed time IN for an employee over a defined period of time,
> say, from Monday at 12:01 AM to now.
>
> The table, AccessEvents, contains these main fields:
>
> EmployeeID
> TimeStamp
> AreaCode
>
> The AreaCode contains either the area of the building that the
> employee entered upon coming in, or the "outside", meaning that the
> employee is out of the building.
>
> Say that it's Thursday and the employee's AccessEvents records look
> like the following (I've changed the AreaCode to In or Out for
> simplicity):
>
> 337     2008-09-15 07:54:50.000 In
> 337     2008-09-15 11:59:56.000 Out
> 337     2008-09-15 12:38:24.000 In
> 337     2008-09-15 17:01:24.000 Out
> 337     2008-09-16 07:53:16.000 In
> 337     2008-09-16 11:58:00.000 Out
> 337     2008-09-16 12:33:35.000 In
> 337     2008-09-16 17:03:29.000 Out
> 337     2008-09-17 07:56:29.000 In
> 337     2008-09-17 11:59:14.000 Out
> 337     2008-09-17 12:49:41.000 In
> 337     2008-09-17 17:02:41.000 Out
> 337     2008-09-18 08:04:17.000 In
>
> ...and the employee wants to know how much time he's spent in the
> building up to now, which is, say, 10:00AM on Thursday the 18th of
> Sept.  It's easy enough to select these records, but I'm having
> trouble visualizing how to sum the elapsed time spent IN the building,
> including the time from his last In event to 10:00.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 11:29:24 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:29:24 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com>

As Steve suggests, a cursor appears to be the way out of this, but I believe
that this is because the model is wrong. In-to-out ought to be on one row
not two. Then the problem erases itself. This approach might require some
additional logic but in general, IMO, it is sound:

Location1: In = 9:00am
Location2: In = not permitted before Location1.Out is not null
Location2: In >= Location1.Out

My gut instinct tells me that it is a bad idea to store In and Out on
separate rows. The concept ought to be rethought as a
"Visit" which has an In time and an Out time.Then everything you need to
know is on one single row and it's easy to grab and the duration is a cinch
to calculate.

Just my $0.02

Arthur

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Are we talking about using a SQL Cursor here?
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Group,
> >
> > I wrote an upgrade to the classic ASP In/Out board my company uses in
> > ASP.NET <http://asp.net/>.  The security cards we all have allow us
> access to the
> > building and the In/Out times are recorded in a SQL table.
> >
> > I wonder if you could help me visualize a query that would total up
> > the elapsed time IN for an employee over a defined period of time,
> > say, from Monday at 12:01 AM to now.
> >
> > The table, AccessEvents, contains these main fields:
> >
> > EmployeeID
> > TimeStamp
> > AreaCode
> >
> > The AreaCode contains either the area of the building that the
> > employee entered upon coming in, or the "outside", meaning that the
> > employee is out of the building.
> >
> > Say that it's Thursday and the employee's AccessEvents records look
> > like the following (I've changed the AreaCode to In or Out for
> > simplicity):
> >
> > 337     2008-09-15 07:54:50.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-15 11:59:56.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-15 12:38:24.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-15 17:01:24.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-16 07:53:16.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-16 11:58:00.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-16 12:33:35.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-16 17:03:29.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-17 07:56:29.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-17 11:59:14.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-17 12:49:41.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-17 17:02:41.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-18 08:04:17.000 In
> >
> > ...and the employee wants to know how much time he's spent in the
> > building up to now, which is, say, 10:00AM on Thursday the 18th of
> > Sept.  It's easy enough to select these records, but I'm having
> > trouble visualizing how to sum the elapsed time spent IN the building,
> > including the time from his last In event to 10:00.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve Erbach
> > Neenah, WI
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Sep 22 11:54:36 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:54:36 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
Message-ID: <s8d7ea0d.084@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve and Arthur

I would keep the single rows but add a VisitId to the row:

11 337     2008-09-15 07:54:50.000 In
11 337     2008-09-15 11:59:56.000 Out
12 337     2008-09-15 12:38:24.000 In
12 337     2008-09-15 17:01:24.000 Out
13 337     2008-09-16 07:53:16.000 In
13 337     2008-09-16 11:58:00.000 Out
24 337     2008-09-16 12:33:35.000 In
24 337     2008-09-16 17:03:29.000 Out
25 337     2008-09-17 07:56:29.000 In
25 337     2008-09-17 11:59:14.000 Out
31 337     2008-09-17 12:49:41.000 In
31 337     2008-09-17 17:02:41.000 Out
77 337     2008-09-18 08:04:17.000 In

If VisitStatus In/Out is a True/False, then all you need is a simple view to look up the row where VisitId match and VisitStatus1 = Not VisitStatus2 where you calculate the date/time diff.

/gustav


>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 22-09-2008 18:29 >>>
As Steve suggests, a cursor appears to be the way out of this, but I believe
that this is because the model is wrong. In-to-out ought to be on one row
not two. Then the problem erases itself. This approach might require some
additional logic but in general, IMO, it is sound:

Location1: In = 9:00am
Location2: In = not permitted before Location1.Out is not null
Location2: In >= Location1.Out

My gut instinct tells me that it is a bad idea to store In and Out on
separate rows. The concept ought to be rethought as a
"Visit" which has an In time and an Out time.Then everything you need to
know is on one single row and it's easy to grab and the duration is a cinch
to calculate.

Just my $0.02

Arthur

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Are we talking about using a SQL Cursor here?
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Group,
> >
> > I wrote an upgrade to the classic ASP In/Out board my company uses in
> > ASP.NET <http://asp.net/>.  The security cards we all have allow us access to the
> > building and the In/Out times are recorded in a SQL table.
> >
> > I wonder if you could help me visualize a query that would total up
> > the elapsed time IN for an employee over a defined period of time,
> > say, from Monday at 12:01 AM to now.
> >
> > The table, AccessEvents, contains these main fields:
> >
> > EmployeeID
> > TimeStamp
> > AreaCode
> >
> > The AreaCode contains either the area of the building that the
> > employee entered upon coming in, or the "outside", meaning that the
> > employee is out of the building.
> >
> > Say that it's Thursday and the employee's AccessEvents records look
> > like the following (I've changed the AreaCode to In or Out for
> > simplicity):
> >
> > 337     2008-09-15 07:54:50.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-15 11:59:56.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-15 12:38:24.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-15 17:01:24.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-16 07:53:16.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-16 11:58:00.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-16 12:33:35.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-16 17:03:29.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-17 07:56:29.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-17 11:59:14.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-17 12:49:41.000 In
> > 337     2008-09-17 17:02:41.000 Out
> > 337     2008-09-18 08:04:17.000 In
> >
> > ...and the employee wants to know how much time he's spent in the
> > building up to now, which is, say, 10:00AM on Thursday the 18th of
> > Sept.  It's easy enough to select these records, but I'm having
> > trouble visualizing how to sum the elapsed time spent IN the building,
> > including the time from his last In event to 10:00.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve Erbach
> > Neenah, WI




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Sep 22 12:00:13 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:00:13 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>,
	<39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>,
	<29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D85BBD.29522.CD688BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Trouble is nost commercial time recording devices and systems log and store single 
"events" not visits.


I think I've still got something like this stored away somewhere  in Access ( it imported a text 
file
which was dumped by just such a commercial system. I'll try to locate it.

On 22 Sep 2008 at 13:29, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> As Steve suggests, a cursor appears to be the way out of this, but I believe
> that this is because the model is wrong. In-to-out ought to be on one row
> not two. Then the problem erases itself. This approach might require some
> additional logic but in general, IMO, it is sound:
> 
> Location1: In = 9:00am
> Location2: In = not permitted before Location1.Out is not null
> Location2: In >= Location1.Out
> 
> My gut instinct tells me that it is a bad idea to store In and Out on
> separate rows. The concept ought to be rethought as a
> "Visit" which has an In time and an Out time.Then everything you need to
> know is on one single row and it's easy to grab and the duration is a cinch
> to calculate.
> 
> Just my $0.02
> 
> Arthur
> 
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Are we talking about using a SQL Cursor here?
> >
> > Steve Erbach
> > Neenah, WI
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dear Group,
> > >
> > > I wrote an upgrade to the classic ASP In/Out board my company uses in
> > > ASP.NET <http://asp.net/>.  The security cards we all have allow us
> > access to the
> > > building and the In/Out times are recorded in a SQL table.
> > >
> > > I wonder if you could help me visualize a query that would total up
> > > the elapsed time IN for an employee over a defined period of time,
> > > say, from Monday at 12:01 AM to now.
> > >
> > > The table, AccessEvents, contains these main fields:
> > >
> > > EmployeeID
> > > TimeStamp
> > > AreaCode
> > >
> > > The AreaCode contains either the area of the building that the
> > > employee entered upon coming in, or the "outside", meaning that the
> > > employee is out of the building.
> > >
> > > Say that it's Thursday and the employee's AccessEvents records look
> > > like the following (I've changed the AreaCode to In or Out for
> > > simplicity):
> > >
> > > 337     2008-09-15 07:54:50.000 In
> > > 337     2008-09-15 11:59:56.000 Out
> > > 337     2008-09-15 12:38:24.000 In
> > > 337     2008-09-15 17:01:24.000 Out
> > > 337     2008-09-16 07:53:16.000 In
> > > 337     2008-09-16 11:58:00.000 Out
> > > 337     2008-09-16 12:33:35.000 In
> > > 337     2008-09-16 17:03:29.000 Out
> > > 337     2008-09-17 07:56:29.000 In
> > > 337     2008-09-17 11:59:14.000 Out
> > > 337     2008-09-17 12:49:41.000 In
> > > 337     2008-09-17 17:02:41.000 Out
> > > 337     2008-09-18 08:04:17.000 In
> > >
> > > ...and the employee wants to know how much time he's spent in the
> > > building up to now, which is, say, 10:00AM on Thursday the 18th of
> > > Sept.  It's easy enough to select these records, but I'm having
> > > trouble visualizing how to sum the elapsed time spent IN the building,
> > > including the time from his last In event to 10:00.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Steve Erbach
> > > Neenah, WI
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
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> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
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> 




From jnatola at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 22 12:54:59 2008
From: jnatola at hotmail.com (jean-paul)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:54:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Create error
Message-ID: <BAY140-W44A6B3DF78FAE01CF4043EBC4B0@phx.gbl>


Hi all,
 
Please bear with me as Im new to SQL , 
;m having an issue with creating a DB  i just installed  windows 2003 r2   and sql05  the install went well  no errors etc..


I have changed the default locations for the DB's  to E: for Tlogs and F: for the DB

I'm using  windows authentication ,  my user account is both domain admin and local admin on the server - its not a DC-
and I'm not on compressed drives


The issue when I try to create a database  I get the following;

Create failed for database 'test1' (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)

An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch

Directory lookup for the file e:\SQL_DBs\test1.mdf" failed with the operating system error 2 (the system cannot find the file specified

CREATE DATABSASE failed. Some file names listed could not be created. Check realted errors
(Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 5133)



 

 
TIA 

J
 
 

 

 
 

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 22 12:58:57 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:58:57 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
In-Reply-To: <48D85BBD.29522.CD688BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>,
	<39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>,
	<29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com> 
	<48D85BBD.29522.CD688BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W38D71799E87AA83E055A1D24B0@phx.gbl>


Steve,

I think this will get you to having your times in a single record...I'm sure you can do the math from here.  This does NOT test for missed punches/times...or whatever you are calling them.

Hope it helps...Mark A. Matte

SELECT MT.AgentID, MT.DTTM, MT.Direction, (SELECT Min(SM.DTTM) AS MinOfDTTM
FROM tblTimes AS SM
WHERE (((SM.AgentID)=MT.AgentID) AND ((SM.Direction)="out"))
and (((SM.DTTM)>MT.DTTM));) AS Expr1
FROM tblTimes AS MT
WHERE (((MT.Direction)="in"));


> From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:00:13 +1000
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
>
> Trouble is nost commercial time recording devices and systems log and store single
> "events" not visits.
>
>
> I think I've still got something like this stored away somewhere in Access ( it imported a text
> file
> which was dumped by just such a commercial system. I'll try to locate it.
>
> On 22 Sep 2008 at 13:29, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
>> As Steve suggests, a cursor appears to be the way out of this, but I believe
>> that this is because the model is wrong. In-to-out ought to be on one row
>> not two. Then the problem erases itself. This approach might require some
>> additional logic but in general, IMO, it is sound:
>>
>> Location1: In = 9:00am
>> Location2: In = not permitted before Location1.Out is not null
>> Location2: In>= Location1.Out
>>
>> My gut instinct tells me that it is a bad idea to store In and Out on
>> separate rows. The concept ought to be rethought as a
>> "Visit" which has an In time and an Out time.Then everything you need to
>> know is on one single row and it's easy to grab and the duration is a cinch
>> to calculate.
>>
>> Just my $0.02
>>
>> Arthur
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Steve Erbach  wrote:
>>
>>> Are we talking about using a SQL Cursor here?
>>>
>>> Steve Erbach
>>> Neenah, WI
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Steve Erbach  wrote:
>>>> Dear Group,
>>>>
>>>> I wrote an upgrade to the classic ASP In/Out board my company uses in
>>>> ASP.NET . The security cards we all have allow us
>>> access to the
>>>> building and the In/Out times are recorded in a SQL table.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if you could help me visualize a query that would total up
>>>> the elapsed time IN for an employee over a defined period of time,
>>>> say, from Monday at 12:01 AM to now.
>>>>
>>>> The table, AccessEvents, contains these main fields:
>>>>
>>>> EmployeeID
>>>> TimeStamp
>>>> AreaCode
>>>>
>>>> The AreaCode contains either the area of the building that the
>>>> employee entered upon coming in, or the "outside", meaning that the
>>>> employee is out of the building.
>>>>
>>>> Say that it's Thursday and the employee's AccessEvents records look
>>>> like the following (I've changed the AreaCode to In or Out for
>>>> simplicity):
>>>>
>>>> 337 2008-09-15 07:54:50.000 In
>>>> 337 2008-09-15 11:59:56.000 Out
>>>> 337 2008-09-15 12:38:24.000 In
>>>> 337 2008-09-15 17:01:24.000 Out
>>>> 337 2008-09-16 07:53:16.000 In
>>>> 337 2008-09-16 11:58:00.000 Out
>>>> 337 2008-09-16 12:33:35.000 In
>>>> 337 2008-09-16 17:03:29.000 Out
>>>> 337 2008-09-17 07:56:29.000 In
>>>> 337 2008-09-17 11:59:14.000 Out
>>>> 337 2008-09-17 12:49:41.000 In
>>>> 337 2008-09-17 17:02:41.000 Out
>>>> 337 2008-09-18 08:04:17.000 In
>>>>
>>>> ...and the employee wants to know how much time he's spent in the
>>>> building up to now, which is, say, 10:00AM on Thursday the 18th of
>>>> Sept. It's easy enough to select these records, but I'm having
>>>> trouble visualizing how to sum the elapsed time spent IN the building,
>>>> including the time from his last In event to 10:00.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve Erbach
>>>> Neenah, WI
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-SQLServer mailing list
>>> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
>>> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
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>
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From jnatola at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 22 13:10:26 2008
From: jnatola at hotmail.com (jean-paul)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:10:26 -0400
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Create error
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W44A6B3DF78FAE01CF4043EBC4B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W44A6B3DF78FAE01CF4043EBC4B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY140-W254F85BA2B8826ABEA4CF0BC4B0@phx.gbl>


well i dont know what happened , but now it is working-

thanks

 

 

 

 


 


> From: jnatola at hotmail.com
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:54:59 -0400
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Create error
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> Please bear with me as Im new to SQL , 
> ;m having an issue with creating a DB  i just installed  windows 2003 r2   and sql05  the install went well  no errors etc..
> 
> 
> I have changed the default locations for the DB's  to E: for Tlogs and F: for the DB
> 
> I'm using  windows authentication ,  my user account is both domain admin and local admin on the server - its not a DC-
> and I'm not on compressed drives
> 
> 
> The issue when I try to create a database  I get the following;
> 
> Create failed for database 'test1' (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)
> 
> An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch
> 
> Directory lookup for the file e:\SQL_DBs\test1.mdf" failed with the operating system error 2 (the system cannot find the file specified
> 
> CREATE DATABSASE failed. Some file names listed could not be created. Check realted errors
> (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 5133)
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> TIA 
> 
> J
>  
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
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From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Mon Sep 22 18:40:56 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:40:56 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Create error
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W254F85BA2B8826ABEA4CF0BC4B0@phx.gbl>
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heh.. I told you these folks were good ;) <g>

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jean-paul
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 4:10 AM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Create error



well i dont know what happened , but now it is working-

thanks













> From: jnatola at hotmail.com
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:54:59 -0400
> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Create error
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Please bear with me as Im new to SQL ,
> ;m having an issue with creating a DB  i just installed  windows 2003 r2   and sql05  the install went well  no errors etc..
>
>
> I have changed the default locations for the DB's  to E: for Tlogs and F: for the DB
>
> I'm using  windows authentication ,  my user account is both domain admin and local admin on the server - its not a DC-
> and I'm not on compressed drives
>
>
> The issue when I try to create a database  I get the following;
>
> Create failed for database 'test1' (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)
>
> An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch
>
> Directory lookup for the file e:\SQL_DBs\test1.mdf" failed with the operating system error 2 (the system cannot find the file specified
>
> CREATE DATABSASE failed. Some file names listed could not be created. Check realted errors
> (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 5133)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> TIA
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 06:18:06 2008
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:18:06 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>
	<29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30809230418l5db913acwcba9e793b2279874@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur,

? My gut instinct tells me that it is a bad idea to store In and Out on
separate rows. The concept ought to be rethought as a
"Visit" which has an In time and an Out time. ?

This makes sense.  Unfortunately, the SQL database is part of the
security card access system.  I suppose that I could suggest to the
manufacturer that its design could be tweaked; but, even if they have
an epiphany, the design isn't likely to change soon.

So I'm left with my original question.  The more I look at it the more
I think I'll just bypass the all-in-one query idea and just feed the
result set to a .NET routine to step through the records.

Thanks, Arthur.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> As Steve suggests, a cursor appears to be the way out of this, but I believe
> that this is because the model is wrong. In-to-out ought to be on one row
> not two. Then the problem erases itself. This approach might require some
> additional logic but in general, IMO, it is sound:
>
> Location1: In = 9:00am
> Location2: In = not permitted before Location1.Out is not null
> Location2: In >= Location1.Out
>
> My gut instinct tells me that it is a bad idea to store In and Out on
> separate rows. The concept ought to be rethought as a
> "Visit" which has an In time and an Out time.Then everything you need to
> know is on one single row and it's easy to grab and the duration is a cinch
> to calculate.
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> Arthur
>



From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 06:19:03 2008
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:19:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
In-Reply-To: <48D85BBD.29522.CD688BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>
	<29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com>
	<48D85BBD.29522.CD688BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30809230419j4dcfba76n85147edf61316b0c@mail.gmail.com>

Stuart,

Right you are.  Thanks for looking through your archives.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Stuart McLachlan
<stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> Trouble is nost commercial time recording devices and systems log and store single
> "events" not visits.
>
>
> I think I've still got something like this stored away somewhere  in Access ( it imported a text
> file
> which was dumped by just such a commercial system. I'll try to locate it.


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 10:51:06 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:51:06 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Logical reads/writes
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809230851x506d1db6q145b2970d8bbad01@mail.gmail.com>

I suppose that I should know what these terms mean, but the fact is that I
don't.  I'm looking at this report of object execution times from SQL 2005
and  there are columns about logical reads and writes and I have no idea
what that means. Logical as opposed to physical, or as opposed to illogical?
Oh and then there is Total Logical IO. That would be a really funny graph if
they had Illogical Reads and Writes LOL.

It's time to Google, I guess.

Arthur


From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 11:46:14 2008
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:46:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W38D71799E87AA83E055A1D24B0@phx.gbl>
References: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>
	<29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com>
	<48D85BBD.29522.CD688BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<BAY127-W38D71799E87AA83E055A1D24B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30809230946k6d5cabb7k646faa222e6bc3e9@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

Your query does, indeed, work.  I think, however, that I'm going to go
with the .NET loop-through-the-records idea because of query
performance.  I restricted the query results to the In/Out records for
one guy starting with Monday, Sep. 15th.  The query produced the
correct result but it takes 11 to 17 seconds (!!??) to fetch the
records from the SQL Server.

It's cool that SQL Server can do this much with one query, but man!
There are already 1.4 million records in the In/Out table and building
indexes is a bit of a chore.  I've suggested that some additional
clustered indexes be built for that table, but not action so far.

Thank you for posting that query.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I think this will get you to having your times in a single record...I'm sure you can do the math from here.  This does NOT test for missed punches/times...or whatever you are calling them.
>
> Hope it helps...Mark A. Matte
>
> SELECT MT.AgentID, MT.DTTM, MT.Direction, (SELECT Min(SM.DTTM) AS MinOfDTTM
> FROM tblTimes AS SM
> WHERE (((SM.AgentID)=MT.AgentID) AND ((SM.Direction)="out"))
> and (((SM.DTTM)>MT.DTTM));) AS Expr1
> FROM tblTimes AS MT
> WHERE (((MT.Direction)="in"));
>
>
>> From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
>> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:00:13 +1000
>> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
>>
>> Trouble is nost commercial time recording devices and systems log and store single
>> "events" not visits.


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 11:54:46 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:54:46 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Script a Database to
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809230954t5eb0274esc205555b01fee06e@mail.gmail.com>

Several questions in one message here....

Is there a way to script all objects in a database all at once, or must it
be one at a time? For a db with a few hundred tables and let's say 4 sprocs
per table and a bunch of UDFs etc., this could get tedious very quickly. (I
am using SQL 2005 on this project.) I want to version everything and stick
it all into Subversion, but one by one, this is going to take Days of
uninterruped excitement! Sheesh.

How does one script the logins and permissions and jobs? I know how to do
them individually but it appears it cannot be done en masse. Or maybe I'm
missing something.

The final question is, does one have to go to a third party to generate a
script that will do all the inserts necessary to populate some or all the
tables? I have used dbScripter in the past for this, but I left my copy on
my computer in Canada.

TIA,
Arthur


From robert at webedb.com  Tue Sep 23 12:49:14 2008
From: robert at webedb.com (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:49:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Script a Database to
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1222189202.26232.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors. com>
References: <mailman.5.1222189202.26232.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200809231752.m8NHqgon016799@databaseadvisors.com>

Why would it do it into subversion any way other than one file?
You can add all of them at one time to the repository from your local copy.

I believe there is an option to script the logins or users.

Jobs would be one at a time.

I write a view for each table that gives me the insert script for the 
data for each table.

Permissions can be scripted at the same time as the object from Mgt Studio.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:54:46 -0300
>From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Script a Database to
>To: "Discussion concerning MS SQL Server"
>         <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <29f585dd0809230954t5eb0274esc205555b01fee06e at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>Several questions in one message here....
>
>Is there a way to script all objects in a database all at once, or must it
>be one at a time? For a db with a few hundred tables and let's say 4 sprocs
>per table and a bunch of UDFs etc., this could get tedious very quickly. (I
>am using SQL 2005 on this project.) I want to version everything and stick
>it all into Subversion, but one by one, this is going to take Days of
>uninterruped excitement! Sheesh.
>
>How does one script the logins and permissions and jobs? I know how to do
>them individually but it appears it cannot be done en masse. Or maybe I'm
>missing something.
>
>The final question is, does one have to go to a third party to generate a
>script that will do all the inserts necessary to populate some or all the
>tables? I have used dbScripter in the past for this, but I left my copy on
>my computer in Canada.
>
>TIA,
>Arthur




From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 16:30:29 2008
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:30:29 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W38D71799E87AA83E055A1D24B0@phx.gbl>
References: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>
	<29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com>
	<48D85BBD.29522.CD688BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<BAY127-W38D71799E87AA83E055A1D24B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30809231430p32f8aa7ajcfdffc552497af7f@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

I kept working at the query you sent me and I looked up ideas in Joe
Celko's book, "SQL for Smarties".  As I said earlier today, the "raw"
query took 11-17 seconds to run because the table it queries contains
1.4 million rows and the self-join has to run quite a few times and
indexes have to be built, etc.

So I built a couple temp tables first.  The following routine assumes
that there is a one-to-one match between "In" and "Out" records
(except for the most recent "In" record).  It executes lickety-split:

SELECT
	EmployeeID,
	[TimeStamp],
	AreaCode
INTO [_TempIn]
FROM AccessEvents
WHERE EmployeeID = 337 AND
	[TimeStamp] > CONVERT(datetime, '9/15/2008') AND
	AreaCode = 'In';

SELECT
	EmployeeID,
	[TimeStamp],
	AreaCode
INTO [_TempOut]
FROM AccessEvents
WHERE EmployeeID = 337 AND
	[TimeStamp] > CONVERT(datetime, '9/15/2008') AND
	AreaCode = 'Out';

SELECT
	I.EmployeeID,
	I.[TimeStamp] AS TimeIn,
	(
		SELECT
			Min(O.[TimeStamp]) AS TimeOut
		FROM [_TempOut] AS O
		WHERE
		(
			(O.EmployeeID = I.EmployeeID) AND
			(O.[TimeStamp] > I.[TimeStamp])
		)
	) AS TimeOut
FROM [_TempIn] AS I
ORDER BY I.[TimeStamp];

DROP TABLE [SteveErbach].[_TempIn];
DROP TABLE [SteveErbach].[_TempOut];

Thanks for the original query and the idea.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I think this will get you to having your times in a single record...I'm sure you can do the math from here.  This does NOT test for missed punches/times...or whatever you are calling them.
>
> Hope it helps...Mark A. Matte
>
> SELECT MT.AgentID, MT.DTTM, MT.Direction, (SELECT Min(SM.DTTM) AS MinOfDTTM
> FROM tblTimes AS SM
> WHERE (((SM.AgentID)=MT.AgentID) AND ((SM.Direction)="out"))
> and (((SM.DTTM)>MT.DTTM));) AS Expr1
> FROM tblTimes AS MT
> WHERE (((MT.Direction)="in"));
>


From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 24 09:49:41 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:49:41 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30809231430p32f8aa7ajcfdffc552497af7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39cb22f30809220733m11e60c43p5fa1236a2c9407a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<39cb22f30809220808y46ef7258pa72407a63603517b@mail.gmail.com>
	<29f585dd0809220929p623df7f6h696ee603a04e2470@mail.gmail.com>
	<48D85BBD.29522.CD688BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<BAY127-W38D71799E87AA83E055A1D24B0@phx.gbl> 
	<39cb22f30809231430p32f8aa7ajcfdffc552497af7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W744A640E0C6A68B3B7173D2450@phx.gbl>


Glad I could help.

Mark


> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:30:29 -0500
> From: erbachs at gmail.com
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Sum of elapsed time blocks
>
> Mark,
>
> I kept working at the query you sent me and I looked up ideas in Joe
> Celko's book, "SQL for Smarties". As I said earlier today, the "raw"
> query took 11-17 seconds to run because the table it queries contains
> 1.4 million rows and the self-join has to run quite a few times and
> indexes have to be built, etc.
>
> So I built a couple temp tables first. The following routine assumes
> that there is a one-to-one match between "In" and "Out" records
> (except for the most recent "In" record). It executes lickety-split:
>
> SELECT
> EmployeeID,
> [TimeStamp],
> AreaCode
> INTO [_TempIn]
> FROM AccessEvents
> WHERE EmployeeID = 337 AND
> [TimeStamp]> CONVERT(datetime, '9/15/2008') AND
> AreaCode = 'In';
>
> SELECT
> EmployeeID,
> [TimeStamp],
> AreaCode
> INTO [_TempOut]
> FROM AccessEvents
> WHERE EmployeeID = 337 AND
> [TimeStamp]> CONVERT(datetime, '9/15/2008') AND
> AreaCode = 'Out';
>
> SELECT
> I.EmployeeID,
> I.[TimeStamp] AS TimeIn,
> (
> SELECT
> Min(O.[TimeStamp]) AS TimeOut
> FROM [_TempOut] AS O
> WHERE
> (
> (O.EmployeeID = I.EmployeeID) AND
> (O.[TimeStamp]> I.[TimeStamp])
> )
> ) AS TimeOut
> FROM [_TempIn] AS I
> ORDER BY I.[TimeStamp];
>
> DROP TABLE [SteveErbach].[_TempIn];
> DROP TABLE [SteveErbach].[_TempOut];
>
> Thanks for the original query and the idea.
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Mark A Matte  wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> I think this will get you to having your times in a single record...I'm sure you can do the math from here. This does NOT test for missed punches/times...or whatever you are calling them.
>>
>> Hope it helps...Mark A. Matte
>>
>> SELECT MT.AgentID, MT.DTTM, MT.Direction, (SELECT Min(SM.DTTM) AS MinOfDTTM
>> FROM tblTimes AS SM
>> WHERE (((SM.AgentID)=MT.AgentID) AND ((SM.Direction)="out"))
>> and (((SM.DTTM)>MT.DTTM));) AS Expr1
>> FROM tblTimes AS MT
>> WHERE (((MT.Direction)="in"));
>>
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From robert at webedb.com  Wed Sep 24 12:43:45 2008
From: robert at webedb.com (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:43:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Script a Database to
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1222275603.2980.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors.c
 om>
References: <mailman.3.1222275603.2980.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200809241744.m8OHift5019889@databaseadvisors.com>

Why would it do it into subversion any way other than one file?

Should have read

Why would it do it into subversion any way other than multiple files?

At 12:00 PM 9/24/2008, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:49:14 -0500
>From: "Robert L. Stewart" <robert at webedb.com>
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Script a Database to
>To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
>Message-ID: <200809231752.m8NHqgon016799 at databaseadvisors.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>Why would it do it into subversion any way other than one file?
>You can add all of them at one time to the repository from your local copy.
>
>I believe there is an option to script the logins or users.
>
>Jobs would be one at a time.
>
>I write a view for each table that gives me the insert script for the
>data for each table.
>
>Permissions can be scripted at the same time as the object from Mgt Studio.
>
>Robert




From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 12:09:25 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:09:25 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Automatic drop of everything related to a table
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809261009g310bd257u940e5ecfe8998bfe@mail.gmail.com>

When you drop a table, do all related objects automatically get dropped as
well? By "related objects" I don't mean related tables, but rather
constraints, triggers, indexes and so on. Does dropping a table
automatically kill all this stuff, or do remnants persist, and if the
latter, is there some systematic way of killing all the remnants when I kill
the table?

You might wonder why I want to do this. I'd tell you but then I'd have to
kill you. (It's Friday. so I may let you live until Monday.)

A.


From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Sat Sep 27 19:28:50 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:28:50 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SPROC Help SELECT and INSERT.
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809261009g310bd257u940e5ecfe8998bfe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076DA26FE5@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>


Hi guys and gals,

A bit of advice if you don't mind. Trying to write a SPROC and know this should be easy and I think I am making it way too complicated.

I have data in one table and want to copy and insert into another table (identical fields pretty much).  So for each example

tblSource
'-------------------
SourceKeyID (PK)
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
FYP
Prog

so: SQL would be

SELECT * FROM tblSource
WHERE FYP = @FYP AND Prog = @Prog

or maybe

SELECT
SourceKeyID,
Alpha,
Beta,
Gamma,
FYP,
Prog
FROM tblSource
WHERE FYP = @FYP AND Prog = @Prog

Then I want to insert it in to the tblTarget table.

tblTarget
'-------------------
TargetKeyID ' Auto generated
FYP_Imported ' Needs to be written as a variable (eg 75)
SourceKeyID (FK) ' The following all come from the source table
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
FYP
Prog

Something like

INSERT INTO tblTarget
FYP_Imported = @FYP_imported
SourceKeyID,
Alpha,
Beta,
Gamma,
FYP,
Prog

.

Anyway, I can't seem to get it to work so I am clearly fouling something up
*sigh* any advice?

cheers
Darryl.




-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2008 3:09 AM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Automatic drop of everything related to a table


When you drop a table, do all related objects automatically get dropped as
well? By "related objects" I don't mean related tables, but rather
constraints, triggers, indexes and so on. Does dropping a table
automatically kill all this stuff, or do remnants persist, and if the
latter, is there some systematic way of killing all the remnants when I kill
the table?

You might wonder why I want to do this. I'd tell you but then I'd have to
kill you. (It's Friday. so I may let you live until Monday.)

A.
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From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Sun Sep 28 14:59:48 2008
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:59:48 +0200
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SPROC Help SELECT and INSERT.
In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076DA26FE5@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
Message-ID: <000001c921a4$d90beb80$2101a8c0@AB>

Darryl,

This may be what you need:

INSERT INTO tblTarget (FYP_Imported, SourceKeyID, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, FYP,
Prog) 
SELECT @FYP_imported, SourceKeyID, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, FYP, Prog 
FROM tblSOURCE 
WHERE FYP = @FYP AND Prog = @Prog

Asger

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Darryl
Collins
Sendt: 28. september 2008 02:29
Til: 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server'
Emne: Re: [dba-SQLServer] SPROC Help SELECT and INSERT.


Hi guys and gals,

A bit of advice if you don't mind. Trying to write a SPROC and know this
should be easy and I think I am making it way too complicated.

I have data in one table and want to copy and insert into another table
(identical fields pretty much).  So for each example

tblSource
'-------------------
SourceKeyID (PK)
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
FYP
Prog

so: SQL would be

SELECT * FROM tblSource
WHERE FYP = @FYP AND Prog = @Prog

or maybe

SELECT
SourceKeyID,
Alpha,
Beta,
Gamma,
FYP,
Prog
FROM tblSource
WHERE FYP = @FYP AND Prog = @Prog

Then I want to insert it in to the tblTarget table.

tblTarget
'-------------------
TargetKeyID ' Auto generated
FYP_Imported ' Needs to be written as a variable (eg 75)
SourceKeyID (FK) ' The following all come from the source table
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
FYP
Prog

Something like

INSERT INTO tblTarget
FYP_Imported = @FYP_imported
SourceKeyID,
Alpha,
Beta,
Gamma,
FYP,
Prog

.

Anyway, I can't seem to get it to work so I am clearly fouling something up
*sigh* any advice?

cheers
Darryl.





From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Sun Sep 28 21:30:17 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:30:17 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SPROC Help SELECT and INSERT.
In-Reply-To: <000001c921a4$d90beb80$2101a8c0@AB>
Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076DA26FE7@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>

Thanks Asger,

I have this working great now.  For the archives here is the whole thing.  Lesson learnt was that the INSERT statement needs () and the SELECT statement does not.

'==================================================

if exists (select * from dbo.sysobjects where id = object_id(N'dbo.stprSubmitForecast') and OBJECTPROPERTY(id, N'IsProcedure') = 1)
drop procedure dbo.stprSubmitForecast
GO

SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO

/*
        Name : stprSubmitForecast
        Description : Update/Submit the forecast data from the Live table to the Archive Table
        Revision History : 2008-10-17 Darryl Collins - Created

*/

        CREATE PROCEDURE dbo.stprSubmitForecast
        @UCFYPID Int,
        @APLID Int

        AS

        SET NOCOUNT ON

        DELETE FROM dbo.ITFCT_tblForecastSubmitted
        WHERE FYPID_Submitted = @UCFYPID AND APLID = @APLID

        INSERT INTO dbo.ITFCT_tblForecastSubmitted
        (FYPID_Submitted,
        ForecastID,
        ForecastLinkID,
        IsCurrent,
        ProductCode,
        ProjectCode,
        SkillGroup,
        Component,
        ResourceOrItem,
        Organisation,
        OrgAlias,
        StandardTaskID,
        StandardTaskAdd,
        MECID,
        SpendTypeID,
        AccTreatmentID,
        AccountingSplit,
        EffortDays,
        EffortRate,
        [ValueAUD],
        ValueOpex,
        ValueCapex,
        FYPID,
        [Comments],
        ForecastStatusID,
        APLID)

        SELECT
        @UCFYPID,
        ForecastID,
        ForecastLinkID,
        IsCurrent,
        ProductCode,
        ProjectCode,
        SkillGroup,
        Component,
        ResourceOrItem,
        Organisation,
        OrgAlias,
        StandardTaskID,
        StandardTaskAdd,
        MECID,
        SpendTypeID,
        AccTreatmentID,
        AccountingSplit,
        EffortDays,
        EffortRate,
        [ValueAUD],
        ValueOpex,
        ValueCapex,
        FYPID,
        [Comments],
        ForecastStatusID,
        APLID

        FROM dbo.ITFCT_tblForecastLive
        WHERE FYPID = (@UCFYPID+1) AND APLID = @APLID AND IsCurrent <> 0

        SELECT 0 AS Result

GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO

'============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Asger
Blond
Sent: Monday, 29 September 2008 6:00 AM
To: 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server'
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] SPROC Help SELECT and INSERT.


Darryl,

This may be what you need:

INSERT INTO tblTarget (FYP_Imported, SourceKeyID, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, FYP,
Prog)
SELECT @FYP_imported, SourceKeyID, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, FYP, Prog
FROM tblSOURCE
WHERE FYP = @FYP AND Prog = @Prog

Asger

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Darryl
Collins
Sendt: 28. september 2008 02:29
Til: 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server'
Emne: Re: [dba-SQLServer] SPROC Help SELECT and INSERT.


Hi guys and gals,

A bit of advice if you don't mind. Trying to write a SPROC and know this
should be easy and I think I am making it way too complicated.

I have data in one table and want to copy and insert into another table
(identical fields pretty much).  So for each example

tblSource
'-------------------
SourceKeyID (PK)
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
FYP
Prog

so: SQL would be

SELECT * FROM tblSource
WHERE FYP = @FYP AND Prog = @Prog

or maybe

SELECT
SourceKeyID,
Alpha,
Beta,
Gamma,
FYP,
Prog
FROM tblSource
WHERE FYP = @FYP AND Prog = @Prog

Then I want to insert it in to the tblTarget table.

tblTarget
'-------------------
TargetKeyID ' Auto generated
FYP_Imported ' Needs to be written as a variable (eg 75)
SourceKeyID (FK) ' The following all come from the source table
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
FYP
Prog

Something like

INSERT INTO tblTarget
FYP_Imported = @FYP_imported
SourceKeyID,
Alpha,
Beta,
Gamma,
FYP,
Prog

.

Anyway, I can't seem to get it to work so I am clearly fouling something up
*sigh* any advice?

cheers
Darryl.



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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 09:15:07 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:15:07 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Insufficient information about deadlocks
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809300715t2347d9beifd3272593393a072@mail.gmail.com>

We occasionally get deadlocks reported from our error handler in a
particular sproc. What mystifies me is that this sproc is simply doing a
select from a few tables, based on two IDs. I can't pin it down. I know that
this procedure was the victim but I don't know who the victor was. How can I
track this down?

Thanks,
Arthur


From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 11:58:12 2008
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:58:12 -0700
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Insufficient information about deadlocks
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809300715t2347d9beifd3272593393a072@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809300715t2347d9beifd3272593393a072@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00809300958r3a20a11p165f36daaa12b3ea@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur do you select using nolock? I try to make it a habit when selecting
Snapshot type recordsets.

SELECT SomeFields FROM sometable WITH (NOLOCK) WHERE pkid = @SomeID

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> We occasionally get deadlocks reported from our error handler in a
> particular sproc. What mystifies me is that this sproc is simply doing a
> select from a few tables, based on two IDs. I can't pin it down. I know
> that
> this procedure was the victim but I don't know who the victor was. How can
> I
> track this down?
>
> Thanks,
> Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 14:00:28 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:00:28 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Insufficient information about deadlocks
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00809300958r3a20a11p165f36daaa12b3ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809300715t2347d9beifd3272593393a072@mail.gmail.com>
	<8786a4c00809300958r3a20a11p165f36daaa12b3ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809301200g748a84f5gcf7915729c8dab9d@mail.gmail.com>

Not so far but I will follow your advice and put in the new statements and
see what blows up tomorrow LOL. Then I can quickly un-rem the existing
statements if need be. This is the big problem with testing stuff, is that
on the Prod stuff hundreds of users are whacking the db and in the testing
stuff it's basically only me. Maybe this is what outsourcing is about --
find a few hundred users in third-world countries to bang on your app for a
month and see what explodes.
Thanks,
A.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:58 PM, David McAfee <davidmcafee at gmail.com> wrote:

> Arthur do you select using nolock? I try to make it a habit when selecting
> Snapshot type recordsets.
>
> SELECT SomeFields FROM sometable WITH (NOLOCK) WHERE pkid = @SomeID
>
>


From nancy.lytle at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 14:18:42 2008
From: nancy.lytle at gmail.com (Nancy Lytle)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:18:42 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Insufficient information about deadlocks
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0809300715t2347d9beifd3272593393a072@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0809300715t2347d9beifd3272593393a072@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY134-W9C1AA61F4BD4F680EB77484430@phx.gbl>

Check out sp_blocker_pss80.sql, I found it on the web.  It gives good info on blocking and who is blocking what.  There are some other ones out there but this is the one I use throughout the day to get an eye on things, or I use it when there is a complaint about slowness, etc.
Nancy Lytle N_Lytle at terpalum.umd.edu



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> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:15:07 -0300> From: fuller.artful at gmail.com> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Insufficient information about deadlocks> > We occasionally get deadlocks reported from our error handler in a> particular sproc. What mystifies me is that this sproc is simply doing a> select from a few tables, based on two IDs. I can't pin it down. I know that> this procedure was the victim but I don't know who the victor was. How can I> track this down?> > Thanks,> Arthur> _______________________________________________> dba-SQLServer mailing list> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver> http://www.databaseadvisors.com> 

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 15:08:13 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:08:13 -0300
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Insufficient information about deadlocks
In-Reply-To: <BAY134-W9C1AA61F4BD4F680EB77484430@phx.gbl>
References: <29f585dd0809300715t2347d9beifd3272593393a072@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY134-W9C1AA61F4BD4F680EB77484430@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0809301308q493546b5med1a3ea8e3ac43f9@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. I Googled it and got a hit but the link led nowhere. Do you have a
copy that you could send me? It would be appreciated.

Arthur

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nancy Lytle <nancy.lytle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Check out sp_blocker_pss80.sql, I found it on the web.  It gives good info
> on blocking and who is blocking what.  There are some other ones out there
> but this is the one I use throughout the day to get an eye on things, or I
> use it when there is a complaint about slowness, etc.
> Nancy Lytle N_Lytle at terpalum.umd.edu
>
>