jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Tue Sep 20 06:49:45 CDT 2011
Mark, > Finally, I would adore to hear some results comparing your db between MS SQL and mySQL I don't know how to do this. I am a little hesitant to install MySQL on my big server where I could do an A/B comparison with the big SQL database. I can install SQL server on the VMs with MySQL for testing but then you are restricted to one core, x32 OS etc. Maybe some day, when I have tons of MySQL experience and am confident I will not hose my server I will go ahead and install MySQL on that machine. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com On 9/19/2011 6:57 PM, Mark Breen wrote: > Hi John, > > Ok, sorry, when you mentioned Access I assumed that the db's were not too > big. > > Can I throw a few things out, just in case they are useful for you? > > 1) I have been playing with Ubuntu recently and it is fun. > 2) I successfully installed mySQL on Ubuntu over the weekend - I have more > testing to do but for your client, that's all free and it is good software. > 3) Once you get your mySql server up, you can do all the rest of your work > in MS world, just use mySQL as your data store. No reason not to use VS2010 > as your FE and mySQL as your BE. > > Do not be afraid of Ubuntu, it is not that difficult and weirdly, it is > satisfying in a way that Win 98, Millennium , Vista, Office 97, VS 2003 > (need I go on) can never be. > > Finally, I would adore to hear some results comparing your db between MS SQL > and mySQL > > Mark > > > > On 19 September 2011 01:00, jwcolby<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote: > >> Mark, >> >> The reasons are exactly what Jim mentioned. The client currently has >> around 5 gigs of data, or at least their mdb containers are around that >> size. >> >> The free SQL Server express has the following limitations: >> >> 1) 10 gb file size >> 2) 1 core maximum >> 3) 1 gig ram maximum >> >> And the client has: >> >> 4) Serious money constraints today. >> >> SQL Server Express 2008 is just fine for a small database with a hand full >> of users but this is a fairly serious call center app, with 25 users in the >> database all the time. It just feels like a single core and a single gig is >> starting with serious limitations. >> >> He was "written a check" for $2K for purchasing a new server to take him >> into the future. I proposed $2400 for a "roll your own" 8 core AMD 6128 and >> 16 gigs of ram, a modern 8 port Areca raid controller and 3X 120g hard >> drives. He went back to the controller and got $3K. With that he added 5X >> 1 tb drives to build out some real storage for the company. They have >> always had old ebay Dell servers with too little memory and too little >> storage. Always trying to shuffle things around to free up room. >> >> We are actually looking at starting with Windows XP X64 as the OS on this >> (otherwise) entirely modern system. If it works that gets rid of the "$X >> per seat" for something like Windows 2008. If we can use MySQL on that with >> let's say 6 cores and 12 gigs of ram and a 60 gig SSD partition for the >> database files he could have a fairly serious system for his company size. >> >> Windows 2008 and SQL Server 2008 together were going to cost him around >> $10K just for those two things. While we may go there next year or the year >> after, I want to get him moving now. We have been stuck in neutral and >> rolling backwards for too long. >> >> >> John W. Colby >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> On 9/18/2011 11:24 AM, Mark Breen wrote: >> >>> Hello Jim / Arthur >>> >>> Thanks for that analysis, quite accurate. >>> >>> Mr Colby, just a question, why are you not advising your client to use the >>> free MS SQL express R2. I use it all the time and PowerDNN use it on all >>> there servers that host 100,000 DNN installations. All free db's. That >>> is >>> not to be sniffed it. And there are loads of tools to help with the >>> enterprise tools that Express does not ship with. (Note: the free >>> version >>> does give you SSMS) >>> >>> Mark >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> dba-SQLServer mailing list >> dba-SQLServer@**databaseadvisors.com<dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver> >> http://www.databaseadvisors.**com<http://www.databaseadvisors.com> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >