From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Feb  9 11:17:45 2012
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:17:45 -0800
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting by priority then by date?
Message-ID: <CAP+kXmaBbQOOE9YpzDkB7n47bD9sm7uVcwnXeSDoOak2UJAfXg@mail.gmail.com>

I have a non-access/vb question but more of a logic question... in the
current reporting tool we are using at work I have a requirement to sort a
report by priority then by date...

Priority - Date
01 - 20120115
01 - 20120131
01 - 20120201
------------------------this is where the logic switches to sort by date asc
99 - 20110101
99 - 20110714
99 - 20110815
02 - 20111220
07 - 20120116
90 - 20120201
05 - 20120205


I know it's two queries and in SQL I can create a union query that gives me
what I want, but I am using a different tool and I think the easiest for
that tool is to create a combo unit of priority and date, the result would
be a KEY/DATE combo that would sort in the manner described above...





-Francisco
http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
<http://db.tt/JeXURAx>

From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb  9 11:32:43 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:32:43 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting by priority then by date?
Message-ID: <sf34116e.030@cactus.dk>

Hi Francisco

You could order by first 
  Abs(Priority = "01") DESC
then by the date string.

/gustav

>>> fhtapia at gmail.com 09-02-2012 18:17 >>>
I have a non-access/vb question but more of a logic question... in the
current reporting tool we are using at work I have a requirement to sort a
report by priority then by date...

Priority - Date
01 - 20120115
01 - 20120131
01 - 20120201
------------------------this is where the logic switches to sort by date asc
99 - 20110101
99 - 20110714
99 - 20110815
02 - 20111220
07 - 20120116
90 - 20120201
05 - 20120205


I know it's two queries and in SQL I can create a union query that gives me
what I want, but I am using a different tool and I think the easiest for
that tool is to create a combo unit of priority and date, the result would
be a KEY/DATE combo that would sort in the manner described above...





-Francisco
http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
<http://db.tt/JeXURAx>




From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Feb  9 12:26:54 2012
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:26:54 -0800
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting by priority then by date?
In-Reply-To: <sf34116e.030@cactus.dk>
References: <sf34116e.030@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <CAP+kXmYkxMY-gqzEXL9B9vdctj2Qyc5-PSm0329wMM=B+8b_Sw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Gustav,  because I'm sorting in a 3rd party reporting system I won't
be able to sort in that manner, but I did discover that I can create a
formula field where I pair off the priority with the date ex: 01-20120209
and sort that way where if the field is priority 01 I keep that value,
otherwise I replace it with a generic 99-20120209 and that sorts just as
expected, I guess I just needed a bit of time to think and write it out...


Thanks gang!
-Francisco
http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
<http://db.tt/JeXURAx>




On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 09:32, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Francisco
>
> You could order by first
>  Abs(Priority = "01") DESC
> then by the date string.
>
> /gustav
>
> >>> fhtapia at gmail.com 09-02-2012 18:17 >>>
> I have a non-access/vb question but more of a logic question... in the
> current reporting tool we are using at work I have a requirement to sort a
> report by priority then by date...
>
> Priority - Date
> 01 - 20120115
> 01 - 20120131
> 01 - 20120201
> ------------------------this is where the logic switches to sort by date
> asc
> 99 - 20110101
> 99 - 20110714
> 99 - 20110815
> 02 - 20111220
> 07 - 20120116
> 90 - 20120201
> 05 - 20120205
>
>
> I know it's two queries and in SQL I can create a union query that gives me
> what I want, but I am using a different tool and I think the easiest for
> that tool is to create a combo unit of priority and date, the result would
> be a KEY/DATE combo that would sort in the manner described above...
>
>
>
>
>
> -Francisco
> http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
> <http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>

From marklbreen at gmail.com  Thu Feb  9 13:59:25 2012
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:59:25 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] sorting by priority then by date?
In-Reply-To: <CAP+kXmYkxMY-gqzEXL9B9vdctj2Qyc5-PSm0329wMM=B+8b_Sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sf34116e.030@cactus.dk>
	<CAP+kXmYkxMY-gqzEXL9B9vdctj2Qyc5-PSm0329wMM=B+8b_Sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTChYNLLuh-b2n9za6thSGh53c+L1ZZ=4dXW5atkyxh6hyg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Francisco,

I see that you have it working,

I sometimes like to use CASE in these situations also, as I was reading
your initial email, I was imagining a

Order by
Case when col between 90 and 99 then 1
when between 1 and 89 then 2
end

and then concat on the date value.

Anyway, glad you cleared it up by expressing it to the group.

Mark



On 9 February 2012 18:26, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Gustav,  because I'm sorting in a 3rd party reporting system I won't
> be able to sort in that manner, but I did discover that I can create a
> formula field where I pair off the priority with the date ex: 01-20120209
> and sort that way where if the field is priority 01 I keep that value,
> otherwise I replace it with a generic 99-20120209 and that sorts just as
> expected, I guess I just needed a bit of time to think and write it out...
>
>
> Thanks gang!
> -Francisco
> http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
> <http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 09:32, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi Francisco
> >
> > You could order by first
> >  Abs(Priority = "01") DESC
> > then by the date string.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > >>> fhtapia at gmail.com 09-02-2012 18:17 >>>
> > I have a non-access/vb question but more of a logic question... in the
> > current reporting tool we are using at work I have a requirement to sort
> a
> > report by priority then by date...
> >
> > Priority - Date
> > 01 - 20120115
> > 01 - 20120131
> > 01 - 20120201
> > ------------------------this is where the logic switches to sort by date
> > asc
> > 99 - 20110101
> > 99 - 20110714
> > 99 - 20110815
> > 02 - 20111220
> > 07 - 20120116
> > 90 - 20120201
> > 05 - 20120205
> >
> >
> > I know it's two queries and in SQL I can create a union query that gives
> me
> > what I want, but I am using a different tool and I think the easiest for
> > that tool is to create a combo unit of priority and date, the result
> would
> > be a KEY/DATE combo that would sort in the manner described above...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Francisco
> > http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
> > <http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>

From rls at WeBeDb.com  Thu Feb  9 14:16:38 2012
From: rls at WeBeDb.com (Robert Stewart)
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:16:38 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Adding a field to all user tables
In-Reply-To: <mailman.746.1328817613.25827.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisor s.com>
References: <mailman.746.1328817613.25827.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <A98C2E2B-F35E-4A9F-A3FC-BDF3A8281C96@holly.arvixe.com>

Totally true.  I just did it as an SP in case someone else
needed it.  They could copy and paste.


At 02:00 PM 2/9/2012, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:20:40 -0800
>From: Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com>
>To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
>         <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Adding a field to all user tables
>Message-ID:
>         <CAP+kXmaZE3qDPhvMmOr_T-eiaz=B15qWdX9KK01SE9CBHxjezg at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>out of curiosity would you really make this a sproc?  I think more of a
>maintenance architecture script (again this is nitpicking) but I gather
>that once you've added your timestamps to all your tables, going forward
>you'd automatically do that to all new tables created, right?
>
>in the case of a broken design, where some tables have the timestamps, and
>many do not you'd probably want to skip the timestamped tables.
>
>how about a little mod like:
>
>SELECT t.name AS TableName
>--    ,sc.name AS SchemaName,
>--    c.name AS ColumnName,
>--    types.name AS TypeName,
>--    st.name AS TypeSchemaName,
>--    t.type AS type
>FROM sys.all_columns c INNER JOIN sys.all_objects t WITH (NOLOCK) ON
>c.object_id=t.object_id
>LEFT JOIN sys.schemas sc WITH (NOLOCK) ON t.schema_id=sc.schema_id
>LEFT JOIN sys.types types WITH (NOLOCK) ON c.user_type_id=types.user_type_id
>LEFT JOIN sys.schemas st WITH (NOLOCK) ON st.schema_id=types.schema_id
>WHERE t.type IN ('U')
>AND types.NAME <> 'timestamp'
>GROUP BY t.NAME
>ORDER BY t.NAME
>
>instead of
>SELECT name
>   FROM sysobjects
>   WHERE [TYPE] = 'U'
>              ORDER BY name
>
>if you plan on keeping the design with a managed script so you can
>automatically come back and re-add timestamps on any table you may have
>forgotten, you can replace the previous cursor select with this modified
>one, so that you only find the tables without timestamps already.
>
>-Francisco
>http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
><http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 00:37, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I'll give you this one, for sure! It's guaranteed to be a smallish cursor,
> > even in a large-ish database. Maybe 600 tables in the largest db I ever
> > worked on! And as cursors go, that's not large. That said, I personally
> > would have gone with a ForEach in SMO, but that's nit-picking. Well done!
> >
> > P.S.
> > I also like your formatting conventions.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Robert Stewart <rls at webedb.com> wrote:
> >
> > > For whatever reason, my original post of this never seems to appear on
> > the
> > > results from the list.
> > >
> > > While I do not advocate using cursors 99% of the time, there are times
> > > that they are what you should use.
> > > This will make the code easier to read, and it will work smooth.
> > >
> > > CREATE PROCEDURE dbo.usp_AddTimestamp
> > > AS
> > > BEGIN
> > >    SET NOCOUNT ON;
> > >    DECLARE
> > >            @TableName VARCHAR( 128 )
> > >          , @Sql NVARCHAR( 4000 )
> > >
> > >    DECLARE curTableList CURSOR
> > >        FOR SELECT name
> > >              FROM sysobjects
> > >              WHERE [TYPE] = 'U'
> > >              ORDER BY name
> > >
> > >    OPEN curTableList
> > >
> > >    FETCH next FROM curTableList INTO @TableName
> > >
> > >    WHILE @@FETCH_STATUS = 0
> > >        BEGIN
> > >            SET @Sql = N'ALTER TABLE dbo.' + @TableName + ' ADD Timestamp'
> > >
> > >            EXEC sp_executesql @Sql
> > >
> > >            FETCH next FROM curTableList INTO @TableName
> > >        END
> > >
> > >    CLOSE curTableList
> > >    DEALLOCATE curTableList
> > > END
> > > GO--
> >
> > Arthur
> > Cell: 647.710.1314
> >
> > Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
> >  -- Niels Bohr
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-SQLServer mailing list
> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
>

Robert L. Stewart
www.WeBeDb.com
www.DBGUIDesign.com
www.RLStewartPhotography.com 

From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Feb  9 19:14:39 2012
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:14:39 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal
Message-ID: <CAOY=wE+PpZdR+9ucw-BTcopBB6ouX5pWnRhan1he+Z3JuLkRLg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

Does anyone create ASP.NET/SQL Server applications that generate reports
WITHOUT using SQL Server Reporting Services or Crystal Reports? I'm
converting an Access application to an ASP.NET app with SQL Server back end
and I don't think I'll be able to persuade the client to buy either.

Have you translated Access reports to the web WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal?

-- 
Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Feb  9 19:38:13 2012
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:38:13 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal
In-Reply-To: <CAOY=wE+PpZdR+9ucw-BTcopBB6ouX5pWnRhan1he+Z3JuLkRLg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOY=wE+PpZdR+9ucw-BTcopBB6ouX5pWnRhan1he+Z3JuLkRLg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F347505.26253.13E82276@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I generate a lot of web pages from Access/SQL etc data.  I simply build the output page with 
strings.  I find it gives me much better control over the result.

Here's a typical function:

Function CreateWebPage(PageName) As Boolean
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim rs2 As DAO.Recordset
Dim strFile As String
Dim strtemp As String
Dim strPagename As String
Dim lngGalleryCount As Long
Dim ff As Long
Dim ff2 As Long

strFile = TempDir() & PageName

ff = FreeFile

Open strFile For Output As #ff
ff2 = FreeFile
Open BEDir() & "\HeaderTemplate.txt" For Input As #ff2
Do While Not EOF(ff2)
  Line Input #ff2, strtemp
  If InStr(strtemp, "HEADLINEGOESHERE") > 0 Then
     strtemp = Replace(strtemp, "HEADLINEGOESHERE", DLookup("WebPageheadline", "tblWebPages", "WebPageName = '" & PageName & "'"))
  End If
  If InStr(strtemp, "BYLINEGOESHERE") > 0 Then
     strtemp = Replace(strtemp, "BYLINEGOESHERE", DLookup("WebPageByline", "tblWebPages", "WebPageName = '" & PageName & "'"))
  End If
  Print #ff, strtemp
Loop
Close #ff2
If DCount("*", "qryWeblisting", "webpage = '" & PageName & "'") = 0 Then
    Print #ff, "<strong>THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO PROPERTIES IN THIS CATEGORY</strong>"
Else
    Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset("select * from qryWebListing where WebPage = '" & PageName & "';")
    Print #ff, "<table><col width = ""20%""><col width = ""60%""><col width = ""20%"">"
    lngGalleryCount = 0
    While Not rs.EOF
        Print #ff, "<tr>"
        If rs!Thumb > "" Then
            Createthumb rs!PropertyNumber, rs!Photo
            CreateWebPic rs!PropertyNumber, rs!Photo
            lngGalleryCount = lngGalleryCount + 1
            Print #ff, "<td valign = ""Top""><span class=title>" & rs!LocnName & "</SPAN><BR>"
            Print #ff, "<div class=""highslide - gallery"">"
            Print #ff, "<a id=""" & rs!PropertyNumber & """ href=""property_images/" & rs!WebPic & """ class=""highslide"" onclick=""return hs.expand(this, { slideshowGroup: " & lngGalleryCount & " } )"">"
            Print #ff, "<img src=""property_images/" & rs!Thumb & """ alt=""Highslide JS"" title=""Click to enlarge"" />"
            Print #ff, "<br><small>Click for Details</small></a>"
            Print #ff, "<div class=""highslide-caption"">" & rs!Description & "</div>"
'Get additional photos
            Set rs2 = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset("select * from qryWebPics where Primary = False and Property_PK = " & rs!Property_PK)
            If Not rs2.EOF Then
                Print #ff, "<div class=""hidden - Container"">"
                Do
                    CreateWebPic rs!PropertyNumber, rs2!Photo
                    Print #ff, "<a href=""property_images/" & rs2!WPName & """ class=""highslide"" onclick=""return hs.expand(this,{ thumbnailId: '" & rs!PropertyNumber & "', slideshowGroup: " & lngGalleryCount & " })""></a>"
                    Print #ff, "<div class=""highslide-caption"">" & rs!Description & "</div>"
                    rs2.MoveNext
                Loop Until rs2.EOF
                rs2.Close
                Print #ff, "</div>    "
             End If
             Print #ff, "</div>    "
        Else
            Print #ff, "<td valign = ""Top""><span class=title>" & rs!LocnName & _ &
                   "</SPAN><BR> <img src=""property_images/" & _
                  "NoImage.gif"" width=""128"" height=""96"" align=""Left"" border=""0"" hspace=""5"" ></td>"
        End If
        Print #ff, "<td valign = ""Top"" style= ""border-bottom: groove""> <STRONG><br><a Name =""" & rs!PropertyCategory & rs!PropertyType & Format$(rs!PropertyNumber, "0000") & """>" & rs!PropertyCategory & rs!PropertyType & Format$(rs!PropertyNumber, "0000") & "</a> - " & rs!Headline & "</STRONG><BR>" & rs!ShortDescr & "</td>"
        Print #ff, "<td valign = ""Top"" align = ""center""><br><strong>" & rs!DisplayPrice & "</strong><br><a href = ""brochures/SRE" & Format$(rs!PropertyNumber, "0000") & ".pdf""><img src=""images/Acrobat_1.png"" width=""48"" height=""48"" border=""0"" alt=""Acrobat_1.png - 3921 Bytes""><br><small>Download Brochure</small></a></td>"
        Print #ff, "</tr>"
        rs.MoveNext
    Wend
    rs.Close
    Print #ff, "</table>"
    'End Body
End If
'Footer Template
Open BEDir() & "\FooterTemplate.txt" For Input As #ff2
Do While Not EOF(2)
  Line Input #ff2, strtemp
  Print #ff, strtemp
Loop
Close #ff2
Close #ff
'Publish
FTPPut DLookup("BaseDir", "usysweb"), strFile
End Function




On 9 Feb 2012 at 19:14, Steve Erbach wrote:

> Dear Group,
> 
> Does anyone create ASP.NET/SQL Server applications that generate reports
> WITHOUT using SQL Server Reporting Services or Crystal Reports? I'm
> converting an Access application to an ASP.NET app with SQL Server back end
> and I don't think I'll be able to persuade the client to buy either.
> 
> Have you translated Access reports to the web WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal?
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Feb 10 01:44:01 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:44:01 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or	Crystal
Message-ID: <sf34d8f5.036@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

Did you peruse our Northwind.NET project? Reports were created with the native report designer of Visual Studio at zero cost:

http://northwind.codeplex.com 

Join us and Arthur the newbie at dba-vb.

/gustav


>>> erbachs at gmail.com 10-02-2012 02:14 >>>
Dear Group,

Does anyone create ASP.NET/SQL Server applications that generate reports
WITHOUT using SQL Server Reporting Services or Crystal Reports? I'm
converting an Access application to an ASP.NET app with SQL Server back end
and I don't think I'll be able to persuade the client to buy either.

Have you translated Access reports to the web WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal?

-- 
Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI



From erbachs at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 09:06:44 2012
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:06:44 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal
In-Reply-To: <4F347505.26253.13E82276@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAOY=wE+PpZdR+9ucw-BTcopBB6ouX5pWnRhan1he+Z3JuLkRLg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F347505.26253.13E82276@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CAOY=wELKKx6O2e_o2prkFheCrKzuumJN3wRJ2d=Jq_7etn_rRg@mail.gmail.com>

Stuart,

I've done similar stuff with SQL Server code to generate a dynamic web
page. I was hoping for something a bit more packaged. You're right, there's
more control your way, but...

I'm going to download the NorthWind.NET project and compare its report
generation parts to what you posted, though.  Thank you!

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>wrote:

> I generate a lot of web pages from Access/SQL etc data.  I simply build
> the output page with
> strings.  I find it gives me much better control over the result.
>
> Here's a typical function:
>
> Function CreateWebPage(PageName) As Boolean
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
> Dim rs2 As DAO.Recordset
> Dim strFile As String
> Dim strtemp As String
> Dim strPagename As String
> Dim lngGalleryCount As Long
> Dim ff As Long
> Dim ff2 As Long
>
> strFile = TempDir() & PageName
>
> ff = FreeFile
>
> Open strFile For Output As #ff
> ff2 = FreeFile
> Open BEDir() & "\HeaderTemplate.txt" For Input As #ff2
> Do While Not EOF(ff2)
>  Line Input #ff2, strtemp
>  If InStr(strtemp, "HEADLINEGOESHERE") > 0 Then
>     strtemp = Replace(strtemp, "HEADLINEGOESHERE",
> DLookup("WebPageheadline", "tblWebPages", "WebPageName = '" & PageName &
> "'"))
>  End If
>

From erbachs at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 09:07:21 2012
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:07:21 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal
In-Reply-To: <sf34d8f5.036@cactus.dk>
References: <sf34d8f5.036@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <CAOY=wELepC2iNPDEHit_yCnScAsvi8rnXkHE=M8jSkZG6Ss+wQ@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

I think I will! But I won't leave my cheese to sour! Thank you!

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Steve
>
> Did you peruse our Northwind.NET project? Reports were created with the
> native report designer of Visual Studio at zero cost:
>
> http://northwind.codeplex.com
>
> Join us and Arthur the newbie at dba-vb.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> erbachs at gmail.com 10-02-2012 02:14 >>>
> Dear Group,
>
> Does anyone create ASP.NET/SQL Server applications that generate reports
> WITHOUT using SQL Server Reporting Services or Crystal Reports? I'm
> converting an Access application to an ASP.NET app with SQL Server back
> end
> and I don't think I'll be able to persuade the client to buy either.
>
> Have you translated Access reports to the web WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
>
>
>

From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Tue Feb 14 10:44:39 2012
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff B)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:44:39 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] [Cross Posted to AccessD, SQL, Tech,
	and VB Lists] Pervasive SQL
Message-ID: <004501cceb37$f32ccd30$d9866790$@gmail.com>

Morning all!

Sorry for the major cross post, but I am desperately looking for someone
that is extremely knowledgeable in Pervasive SQL or Timberline Office and
has a working copy of Pervasive SQL Version 8.

We are trying to phase out Timberline, but our accounting data is still
stored in PSQL.  I need to find someone that can take a copy of our data
files and export to either excel or SQL Server (preferably SQL Server 2008).
This is just a one-time thing (I hope) and would be doing it myself, except
our Timberline install has failed and we are still trying to rebuild it.

Anyone willing to try and help please send an email to:
jbarrows at alertservice.com.  Please include an hourly cost/price so I can
give the Boss some idea of what it will cost.

Thanks in advance!

Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
?
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff.developer at gmail.com




From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Feb 14 20:52:28 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:52:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSRS 2008R2
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j=Lxd3-VyTf_J9Nf2pqOACOjBGJkaJd7A_XXJPZ2pWQw@mail.gmail.com>

I have just done the basic R2 installation, but I just read a piece (
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQL+Server+2008/74856/ ) that says
that the only OSs upon which I can install SSRS SQL 2008 R2 are:

*Server operating systems include:*

   - Windows Server 2003.
   - Windows Small Business Server 2003.
   - Windows 2000 Server.

*Workstation operating systems include:*

   - Windows XP Professional.
   - Windows 2000 Workstation.


Is this true? What about Win7 Ultimate? No dice? Seems shocking to say the
least. Maybe this article is stale?

-- 
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr

From df.waters at comcast.net  Tue Feb 14 21:05:18 2012
From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:05:18 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSRS 2008R2
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j=Lxd3-VyTf_J9Nf2pqOACOjBGJkaJd7A_XXJPZ2pWQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j=Lxd3-VyTf_J9Nf2pqOACOjBGJkaJd7A_XXJPZ2pWQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000801cceb8e$a6148db0$f23da910$@comcast.net>

Hi Art,

I didn't read the article but it is wrong.  I'm using W7 Pro with SQL Server
Express 2008 R2.

R2 is the latest version - it will work on all the latest OS's.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:52 PM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSRS 2008R2

I have just done the basic R2 installation, but I just read a piece (
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQL+Server+2008/74856/ ) that says
that the only OSs upon which I can install SSRS SQL 2008 R2 are:

*Server operating systems include:*

   - Windows Server 2003.
   - Windows Small Business Server 2003.
   - Windows 2000 Server.

*Workstation operating systems include:*

   - Windows XP Professional.
   - Windows 2000 Workstation.


Is this true? What about Win7 Ultimate? No dice? Seems shocking to say the
least. Maybe this article is stale?

--
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr
_______________________________________________
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From dbdoug at gmail.com  Tue Feb 14 21:51:04 2012
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:51:04 -0800
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSRS 2008R2
In-Reply-To: <000801cceb8e$a6148db0$f23da910$@comcast.net>
References: <CAEPJO1j=Lxd3-VyTf_J9Nf2pqOACOjBGJkaJd7A_XXJPZ2pWQw@mail.gmail.com>
	<000801cceb8e$a6148db0$f23da910$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAFa8NkhW-aV2AP3raq-_6A70VOXKqmUGruVT-X08aQYLVVjA5g@mail.gmail.com>

The worst part of the firehose of information you get on the internet is
figuring out which droplets are right, and which droplets are nonsense.
 OTOH, did you actually install SLQ Server 2008 R2, or SQL Server Express
2008 R2?  Express works fine on my Win 7 Ultimate 32 bit here.  And Win7
Ultimate 64 bit on my Macbook Bootcamp :)

Doug

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Dan Waters <df.waters at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Art,
>
> I didn't read the article but it is wrong.  I'm using W7 Pro with SQL
> Server
> Express 2008 R2.
>
> R2 is the latest version - it will work on all the latest OS's.
>
>

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 06:57:26 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:57:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSRS 2008R2
In-Reply-To: <CAFa8NkhW-aV2AP3raq-_6A70VOXKqmUGruVT-X08aQYLVVjA5g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j=Lxd3-VyTf_J9Nf2pqOACOjBGJkaJd7A_XXJPZ2pWQw@mail.gmail.com>
	<000801cceb8e$a6148db0$f23da910$@comcast.net>
	<CAFa8NkhW-aV2AP3raq-_6A70VOXKqmUGruVT-X08aQYLVVjA5g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h+Gk1ZPxdmJqvzdZaescYS_0GBRHLWHbhqFx1rBGxFBA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the info, guys. It's about time that I started exploring SSRS.
So far all I've done is read about it.

-- 
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

I can resist everything except temptation.

-- Oscar Wilde

From dw-murphy at cox.net  Wed Feb 15 10:03:36 2012
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:03:36 -0800
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSRS 2008R2
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j=Lxd3-VyTf_J9Nf2pqOACOjBGJkaJd7A_XXJPZ2pWQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j=Lxd3-VyTf_J9Nf2pqOACOjBGJkaJd7A_XXJPZ2pWQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003301ccebfb$660d7b60$32287220$@cox.net>

Saw this yesterday. It may help.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/links/414551/245528. Talks about installing
SSRS.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:52 PM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSRS 2008R2

I have just done the basic R2 installation, but I just read a piece (
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQL+Server+2008/74856/ ) that says
that the only OSs upon which I can install SSRS SQL 2008 R2 are:

*Server operating systems include:*

   - Windows Server 2003.
   - Windows Small Business Server 2003.
   - Windows 2000 Server.

*Workstation operating systems include:*

   - Windows XP Professional.
   - Windows 2000 Workstation.


Is this true? What about Win7 Ultimate? No dice? Seems shocking to say the
least. Maybe this article is stale?

--
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr
_______________________________________________
dba-SQLServer mailing list
dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From rls at WeBeDb.com  Wed Feb 15 10:25:54 2012
From: rls at WeBeDb.com (Robert Stewart)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:25:54 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSRS 2008R2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.850.1329274358.25827.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisor s.com>
References: <mailman.850.1329274358.25827.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <3F7D689A-13C8-4D5D-880D-DAD46813F008@holly.arvixe.com>

The article is stale.  You might check the date of the article.

I run it in Win 7 all the time.

Oh, and be glad that you bowed out of that Dallas client for
Dot Net.  It is a real mess.  A friend of mine and I are contemplating
if we want to do it or just bow out of it also.  It is essentially going to
be a total rewrite because of the poor coding that was done by
overseas people in India that the guy did NOT know was working on it.

At 08:52 PM 2/14/2012, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:52:28 -0500
>From: Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
>         <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSRS 2008R2
>Message-ID:
>         <CAEPJO1j=Lxd3-VyTf_J9Nf2pqOACOjBGJkaJd7A_XXJPZ2pWQw at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>I have just done the basic R2 installation, but I just read a piece (
>http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQL+Server+2008/74856/ ) that says
>that the only OSs upon which I can install SSRS SQL 2008 R2 are:
>
>*Server operating systems include:*
>
>    - Windows Server 2003.
>    - Windows Small Business Server 2003.
>    - Windows 2000 Server.
>
>*Workstation operating systems include:*
>
>    - Windows XP Professional.
>    - Windows 2000 Workstation.
>
>
>Is this true? What about Win7 Ultimate? No dice? Seems shocking to say the
>least. Maybe this article is stale?

Robert L. Stewart
www.WeBeDb.com
www.DBGUIDesign.com
www.RLStewartPhotography.com 

From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Feb 25 10:46:34 2012
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:46:34 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Database backups
Message-ID: <4F49106A.90005@colbyconsulting.com>

How does an incremental database backup work?  I kinda have a picture in my head, only the changed 
stuff is backed up, to the same file (maybe?) and so forth.  Not even sure if that is true.

What about restores from?  Is the entire thing restored?  Only changes from a specific date / time?

My client will never have more than my expertise (which is scary) so I need to get a handle on this.

ATM they are backing up the entire thing every night using "windows backup", but I doubt that they 
are testing restores.  I have found some scripts that seem to do a good job (though how would I 
know?) here:

http://ola.hallengren.com/downloads.html

I have built them up in a _DISMaster database where I keep such things.  I actually ran them and got 
a full backup of every user database (that is what I specified to the SP) in the default backup 
location in a directory structure that this script builds if necessary.

It looks like this thing could be the basis for a backup strategy, but I need to know more about 
restores specifically.

The client is a call center for insurance claims.  The entire company is about 50-60 people with 
about 25 people in the database all day.

The data was going into Access MDB backends but we are moving towards SQL Server backends.  They 
work all day adding / modifying data.  I would like to be able to do a "point in time" kind of 
restore in case of disaster.  AFAICT that means that I have to do a backup every N minutes / hours 
or something like that in order to ensure that we can get back to a point in time N minutes / hours ago.

Am I close?  As I have said many times I am not a SQL Server admin so I need to learn enough about 
this specific subject to handle this aspect of the business.

Any advice or concise focused readings you can point me to would be very much appreciated.

-- 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Sat Feb 25 11:02:52 2012
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:02:52 -0800
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Database backups
In-Reply-To: <4F49106A.90005@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4F49106A.90005@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <CAP+kXma26nbvFS55zuK7Gsm-PiEfyw=p-UneEk7SwSvqd1hR1Q@mail.gmail.com>

John,
  This is a topic that I recommend a lot of research on, there is a great
article over on simple-talk about database balkups, this article covers
2005, but about the biggest difference between 2005 and 2008 is that the
WITH TRUNCATEONLY option has been removed.

http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/backup-and-recovery/sql-server-2005-backups/


When in Full recovery mode, you would have 3 different backups depending on
the size of your database; so FULL backup, Differential, and Log backup.

To recover you recover the full backup, followed by the last differential,
and finally every log backup since the last differential

-Francisco
http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
<http://db.tt/JeXURAx>




On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 08:46, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

> How does an incremental database backup work?  I kinda have a picture in
> my head, only the changed stuff is backed up, to the same file (maybe?) and
> so forth.  Not even sure if that is true.
>
> What about restores from?  Is the entire thing restored?  Only changes
> from a specific date / time?
>
> My client will never have more than my expertise (which is scary) so I
> need to get a handle on this.
>
> ATM they are backing up the entire thing every night using "windows
> backup", but I doubt that they are testing restores.  I have found some
> scripts that seem to do a good job (though how would I know?) here:
>
> http://ola.hallengren.com/**downloads.html<http://ola.hallengren.com/downloads.html>
>
> I have built them up in a _DISMaster database where I keep such things.  I
> actually ran them and got a full backup of every user database (that is
> what I specified to the SP) in the default backup location in a directory
> structure that this script builds if necessary.
>
> It looks like this thing could be the basis for a backup strategy, but I
> need to know more about restores specifically.
>
> The client is a call center for insurance claims.  The entire company is
> about 50-60 people with about 25 people in the database all day.
>
> The data was going into Access MDB backends but we are moving towards SQL
> Server backends.  They work all day adding / modifying data.  I would like
> to be able to do a "point in time" kind of restore in case of disaster.
>  AFAICT that means that I have to do a backup every N minutes / hours or
> something like that in order to ensure that we can get back to a point in
> time N minutes / hours ago.
>
> Am I close?  As I have said many times I am not a SQL Server admin so I
> need to learn enough about this specific subject to handle this aspect of
> the business.
>
> Any advice or concise focused readings you can point me to would be very
> much appreciated.
>
> --
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>
> ______________________________**_________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer@**databaseadvisors.com <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver>
> http://www.databaseadvisors.**com <http://www.databaseadvisors.com>
>
>

From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Feb 25 11:21:22 2012
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:21:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Database backups
In-Reply-To: <CAP+kXma26nbvFS55zuK7Gsm-PiEfyw=p-UneEk7SwSvqd1hR1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F49106A.90005@colbyconsulting.com>
	<CAP+kXma26nbvFS55zuK7Gsm-PiEfyw=p-UneEk7SwSvqd1hR1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F491892.909@colbyconsulting.com>

Thanks Francisco, I'm reading it now.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 2/25/2012 12:02 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote:
> John,
>    This is a topic that I recommend a lot of research on, there is a great
> article over on simple-talk about database balkups, this article covers
> 2005, but about the biggest difference between 2005 and 2008 is that the
> WITH TRUNCATEONLY option has been removed.
>
> http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/backup-and-recovery/sql-server-2005-backups/
>
>
> When in Full recovery mode, you would have 3 different backups depending on
> the size of your database; so FULL backup, Differential, and Log backup.
>
> To recover you recover the full backup, followed by the last differential,
> and finally every log backup since the last differential
>
> -Francisco
> http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
> <http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 08:46, jwcolby<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>  wrote:
>
>> How does an incremental database backup work?  I kinda have a picture in
>> my head, only the changed stuff is backed up, to the same file (maybe?) and
>> so forth.  Not even sure if that is true.
>>
>> What about restores from?  Is the entire thing restored?  Only changes
>> from a specific date / time?
>>
>> My client will never have more than my expertise (which is scary) so I
>> need to get a handle on this.
>>
>> ATM they are backing up the entire thing every night using "windows
>> backup", but I doubt that they are testing restores.  I have found some
>> scripts that seem to do a good job (though how would I know?) here:
>>
>> http://ola.hallengren.com/**downloads.html<http://ola.hallengren.com/downloads.html>
>>
>> I have built them up in a _DISMaster database where I keep such things.  I
>> actually ran them and got a full backup of every user database (that is
>> what I specified to the SP) in the default backup location in a directory
>> structure that this script builds if necessary.
>>
>> It looks like this thing could be the basis for a backup strategy, but I
>> need to know more about restores specifically.
>>
>> The client is a call center for insurance claims.  The entire company is
>> about 50-60 people with about 25 people in the database all day.
>>
>> The data was going into Access MDB backends but we are moving towards SQL
>> Server backends.  They work all day adding / modifying data.  I would like
>> to be able to do a "point in time" kind of restore in case of disaster.
>>   AFAICT that means that I have to do a backup every N minutes / hours or
>> something like that in order to ensure that we can get back to a point in
>> time N minutes / hours ago.
>>
>> Am I close?  As I have said many times I am not a SQL Server admin so I
>> need to learn enough about this specific subject to handle this aspect of
>> the business.
>>
>> Any advice or concise focused readings you can point me to would be very
>> much appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>>
>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>> when you do not believe in it
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> dba-SQLServer mailing list
>> dba-SQLServer@**databaseadvisors.com<dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver>
>> http://www.databaseadvisors.**com<http://www.databaseadvisors.com>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Sat Feb 25 12:40:40 2012
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:40:40 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal
In-Reply-To: <sf34d8f5.036@cactus.dk>
References: <sf34d8f5.036@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <CAOY=wEKQnQfMJP6Y6fPmf4Yevy0WxEg1sH6NLk-H1RDDkgWmrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

I finally took the opportunity to look at Northwind.NET. I see that it's a
Windows application, not ASP.NET. I was a bit crestfallen since I had hoped
to learn something from the way you fellows put reports together. But since
you use the Windows-based report viewer, I wonder what, if anything, is
available for designing web reports without having to code them "by hand".

I'm going to take a more serious look at the VS report designer since I
finally found out how much it would cost to license the Crystal Reports
runtime on a web host.

Sincerely,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Steve
>
> Did you peruse our Northwind.NET project? Reports were created with the
> native report designer of Visual Studio at zero cost:
>
> http://northwind.codeplex.com
>
> Join us and Arthur the newbie at dba-vb.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> erbachs at gmail.com 10-02-2012 02:14 >>>
> Dear Group,
>
> Does anyone create ASP.NET/SQL Server applications that generate reports
> WITHOUT using SQL Server Reporting Services or Crystal Reports? I'm
> converting an Access application to an ASP.NET app with SQL Server back
> end
> and I don't think I'll be able to persuade the client to buy either.
>
> Have you translated Access reports to the web WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
>
>

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Feb 25 15:58:31 2012
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:58:31 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Database backups
In-Reply-To: <4F49106A.90005@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4F49106A.90005@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <4F495987.12311.7C938D3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Feb 2012 at 11:46, jwcolby wrote:

> How does an incremental database backup work?  I kinda have a picture in my head, only the changed 
> stuff is backed up, 

Correct, 

> to the same file (maybe?) and so forth.  Not even sure if that is true.

Normally to separate files

> What about restores from?  Is the entire thing restored?  Only changes from a specific date / time?
> 

You have to restore the last full backup AND THEN every subsequent incremental backup in 
order.



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Feb 25 16:12:40 2012
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:12:40 +1000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal
In-Reply-To: <CAOY=wEKQnQfMJP6Y6fPmf4Yevy0WxEg1sH6NLk-H1RDDkgWmrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sf34d8f5.036@cactus.dk>,
	<CAOY=wEKQnQfMJP6Y6fPmf4Yevy0WxEg1sH6NLk-H1RDDkgWmrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F495CD8.16093.7D62B2D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

You might like to look at http://www.hkvstore.com/aspnetreportmaker/

For a a couple of hundred bucks, it might do what you are looking for, and it doesn't need any 
"runtime on a web host"  



On 25 Feb 2012 at 12:40, Steve Erbach wrote:

> Gustav,
> 
> I finally took the opportunity to look at Northwind.NET. I see that it's a
> Windows application, not ASP.NET. I was a bit crestfallen since I had hoped
> to learn something from the way you fellows put reports together. But since
> you use the Windows-based report viewer, I wonder what, if anything, is
> available for designing web reports without having to code them "by hand".
> 
> I'm going to take a more serious look at the VS report designer since I
> finally found out how much it would cost to license the Crystal Reports
> runtime on a web host.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Feb 26 06:49:13 2012
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:49:13 +0100
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or	Crystal
Message-ID: <sf4a386f.000@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

You can do that:

ReportViewer Web Server and Windows Forms Controls
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms251771(v=vs.100).aspx

If you use SQL Server (including Express version, though with a few limitations), you can even choose to have the reports generated either at the database server or in Local Mode:

Using the ASP.NET 2.0 ReportViewer in Local Mode
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/15597/Using-the-ASP-NET-2-0-ReportViewer-in-Local-Mode

This is the site that got me on the track - lots of tips here:
http://gotreportviewer.com/

/gustav


>>> erbachs at gmail.com 25-02-12 19:40 >>>
Gustav,

I finally took the opportunity to look at Northwind.NET. I see that it's a
Windows application, not ASP.NET. I was a bit crestfallen since I had hoped
to learn something from the way you fellows put reports together. But since
you use the Windows-based report viewer, I wonder what, if anything, is
available for designing web reports without having to code them "by hand".

I'm going to take a more serious look at the VS report designer since I
finally found out how much it would cost to license the Crystal Reports
runtime on a web host.

Sincerely,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Steve
>
> Did you peruse our Northwind.NET project? Reports were created with the
> native report designer of Visual Studio at zero cost:
>
> http://northwind.codeplex.com
>
> Join us and Arthur the newbie at dba-vb.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> erbachs at gmail.com 10-02-2012 02:14 >>>
> Dear Group,
>
> Does anyone create ASP.NET/SQL Server applications that generate reports
> WITHOUT using SQL Server Reporting Services or Crystal Reports? I'm
> converting an Access application to an ASP.NET app with SQL Server back end
> and I don't think I'll be able to persuade the client to buy either.
>
> Have you translated Access reports to the web WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 09:55:12 2012
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:55:12 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal
In-Reply-To: <4F495CD8.16093.7D62B2D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <sf34d8f5.036@cactus.dk>
	<CAOY=wEKQnQfMJP6Y6fPmf4Yevy0WxEg1sH6NLk-H1RDDkgWmrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F495CD8.16093.7D62B2D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CAOY=wELgwtkVzRWKpHePrjgpPt4rmjVhasR894dU4E6JdMoaHw@mail.gmail.com>

Stuart,

Very reasonable price! I'm going to download their eval and take a hard
look at it. Thank you!

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>wrote:

> You might like to look at http://www.hkvstore.com/aspnetreportmaker/
>
> For a a couple of hundred bucks, it might do what you are looking for, and
> it doesn't need any
> "runtime on a web host"
>
>
>
> On 25 Feb 2012 at 12:40, Steve Erbach wrote:
>
> > Gustav,
> >
> > I finally took the opportunity to look at Northwind.NET. I see that it's
> a
> > Windows application, not ASP.NET. I was a bit crestfallen since I had
> hoped
> > to learn something from the way you fellows put reports together. But
> since
> > you use the Windows-based report viewer, I wonder what, if anything, is
> > available for designing web reports without having to code them "by
> hand".
> >
> > I'm going to take a more serious look at the VS report designer since I
> > finally found out how much it would cost to license the Crystal Reports
> > runtime on a web host.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Steve Erbach
> > Neenah, WI
>

From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 09:57:10 2012
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:57:10 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal
In-Reply-To: <sf4a386f.000@cactus.dk>
References: <sf4a386f.000@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <CAOY=wE+p_JXQP+bx4SwUhCqHMW3hkLXCmnVBcTuJFUmWffcmAw@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

That's very kind of you to send me all of those links. Thank you very much.
 gotreportviewer.com looks very interesting.

Sincerely,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Steve
>
> You can do that:
>
> ReportViewer Web Server and Windows Forms Controls
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms251771(v=vs.100).aspx
>
> If you use SQL Server (including Express version, though with a few
> limitations), you can even choose to have the reports generated either at
> the database server or in Local Mode:
>
> Using the ASP.NET 2.0 ReportViewer in Local Mode
>
> http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/15597/Using-the-ASP-NET-2-0-ReportViewer-in-Local-Mode
>
> This is the site that got me on the track - lots of tips here:
> http://gotreportviewer.com/
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> erbachs at gmail.com 25-02-12 19:40 >>>
> Gustav,
>
> I finally took the opportunity to look at Northwind.NET. I see that it's a
> Windows application, not ASP.NET. I was a bit crestfallen since I had
> hoped
> to learn something from the way you fellows put reports together. But since
> you use the Windows-based report viewer, I wonder what, if anything, is
> available for designing web reports without having to code them "by hand".
>
> I'm going to take a more serious look at the VS report designer since I
> finally found out how much it would cost to license the Crystal Reports
> runtime on a web host.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
>
>
>
>

From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Feb 29 10:07:44 2012
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:07:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Relation integrity constraints
Message-ID: <4F4E4D50.5050108@colbyconsulting.com>

I have used database diagrams to create relationships between FK / PK pairs in tables such as client 
/ product etc.  My understanding is that such relationships create constraints, IOW enforce 
relational integrity by ensuring that parents cannot be deleted while child records exist and so forth.

First of all, is this true?

Second, where are these constraints stored?  I can see constraints in the table itself, but these 
seem to be "value" kind of constraints, i.e. Disallow zero length and the like.  Where is the 
"parent / child relationship info stored?

Thanks,

-- 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Feb 29 13:17:40 2012
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:17:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Restoring backups
Message-ID: <4F4E79D4.2020003@colbyconsulting.com>

Does anyone know of a utility to track backups of a database from the full, each differential and 
the log file backups and allow you to just point to one of the above backups and restore each piece 
in order?  IOW if I do a full backup Sunday night, a differential every weekday night, and log 
backups every 1/2 hour, I would like to point to the a log file backup somehow (in a table?) and 
have the software understand that the backup chain for that log backup starts at the Sunday night 
full and progresses through each intermediary backup?  So I could click a button and restore down 
through the backup chain.

Does such a thing exist?  Is such a thing even possible?

For the moment I am using the scripts from here:

http://ola.hallengren.com/sql-server-backup.html

They appear to perform exactly as claimed.  I am able to get Full, DIFF and LOG backups easily and 
quickly.  What I am missing is the ability to restore these things easily and quickly.  Restoring a 
full is easy, after that not so easy.

-- 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it



From marklbreen at gmail.com  Wed Feb 29 14:32:31 2012
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:32:31 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Relation integrity constraints
In-Reply-To: <4F4E4D50.5050108@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4F4E4D50.5050108@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTChzTJ1dC4Q_2A1jhKe-riifBML0jb0NBmOB4TSSVv79fQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John,

My understanding is

1) Yes, it is true, you can do it when you are designing the tables but I
always find it easier to drag and drop on the diagram.

2) You will see the FK relationships when you look at the Keys in the
table.  If you play with that, you will see that you can actually build the
PK / FK at table design stage if you really desired to do so.

Is that ok?

Mark

On 29 February 2012 16:07, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

> I have used database diagrams to create relationships between FK / PK
> pairs in tables such as client / product etc.  My understanding is that
> such relationships create constraints, IOW enforce relational integrity by
> ensuring that parents cannot be deleted while child records exist and so
> forth.
>
> First of all, is this true?
>
> Second, where are these constraints stored?  I can see constraints in the
> table itself, but these seem to be "value" kind of constraints, i.e.
> Disallow zero length and the like.  Where is the "parent / child
> relationship info stored?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>
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>
>

From marklbreen at gmail.com  Wed Feb 29 14:35:48 2012
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:35:48 +0000
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Restoring backups
In-Reply-To: <4F4E79D4.2020003@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4F4E79D4.2020003@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCg+PXTzarL7-ao-=UVFRRiFaujWN2EeNUCfzqUaMXV6GA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John,

I am interested to see how you get on with this.

But with full and diff, do you really need to back up the log also?  Would
it not be sufficient to back up the main db on Sunday and diffs each half
hour?  Is that the wrong way to do it?  IF the diffs were small, would it
be good enough?

I have never experimented with restoring log files so I am eager to see how
you get on.

Mark


On 29 February 2012 19:17, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a utility to track backups of a database from the
> full, each differential and the log file backups and allow you to just
> point to one of the above backups and restore each piece in order?  IOW if
> I do a full backup Sunday night, a differential every weekday night, and
> log backups every 1/2 hour, I would like to point to the a log file backup
> somehow (in a table?) and have the software understand that the backup
> chain for that log backup starts at the Sunday night full and progresses
> through each intermediary backup?  So I could click a button and restore
> down through the backup chain.
>
> Does such a thing exist?  Is such a thing even possible?
>
> For the moment I am using the scripts from here:
>
> http://ola.hallengren.com/sql-**server-backup.html<http://ola.hallengren.com/sql-server-backup.html>
>
> They appear to perform exactly as claimed.  I am able to get Full, DIFF
> and LOG backups easily and quickly.  What I am missing is the ability to
> restore these things easily and quickly.  Restoring a full is easy, after
> that not so easy.
>
> --
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>
>
> ______________________________**_________________
> dba-SQLServer mailing list
> dba-SQLServer@**databaseadvisors.com <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
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> http://www.databaseadvisors.**com <http://www.databaseadvisors.com>
>
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 29 15:54:01 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:54:01 -0800
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Restoring backups
In-Reply-To: <4F4E79D4.2020003@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4F4E79D4.2020003@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <DA8D99C4DFA34820B32849F83E1FA149@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi John:

Here is something that was recently posted with compiled(bin) and source
versions for download from Codeproject. It has modules for both backup and
restore written in Server Management Objects. 

http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/123441/SQL-Server-2008-Backup-and-Restor
e-Databases-using

Whether it is a better solution or not I am not sure as I just use an
automated drive image product and regular command line copies for data as I
have no major databases on site.

Thank Shamil for posting the original link.

work?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:18 AM
To: Sqlserver-Dba
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Restoring backups

Does anyone know of a utility to track backups of a database from the full,
each differential and 
the log file backups and allow you to just point to one of the above backups
and restore each piece 
in order?  IOW if I do a full backup Sunday night, a differential every
weekday night, and log 
backups every 1/2 hour, I would like to point to the a log file backup
somehow (in a table?) and 
have the software understand that the backup chain for that log backup
starts at the Sunday night 
full and progresses through each intermediary backup?  So I could click a
button and restore down 
through the backup chain.

Does such a thing exist?  Is such a thing even possible?

For the moment I am using the scripts from here:

http://ola.hallengren.com/sql-server-backup.html

They appear to perform exactly as claimed.  I am able to get Full, DIFF and
LOG backups easily and 
quickly.  What I am missing is the ability to restore these things easily
and quickly.  Restoring a 
full is easy, after that not so easy.

-- 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it


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From rls at WeBeDb.com  Wed Feb 29 16:14:46 2012
From: rls at WeBeDb.com (Robert Stewart)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:14:46 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or Crystal
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1173.1330547580.25827.dba-sqlserver@databaseadviso
	rs.com>
References: <mailman.1173.1330547580.25827.dba-sqlserver@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <F16125AA-76A8-4917-B24D-06BD915F6C47@holly.arvixe.com>

I would also suggest taking a look at the DevExpress reporting tool.
It is very good.  It compiles to a dll, so nothing else needed.

At 02:33 PM 2/29/2012, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:55:12 -0600
>From: Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com>
>To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
>         <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Reporting in ASP.NET WITHOUT SSRS or
>         Crystal
>Message-ID:
>         <CAOY=wELgwtkVzRWKpHePrjgpPt4rmjVhasR894dU4E6JdMoaHw at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>Stuart,
>
>Very reasonable price! I'm going to download their eval and take a hard
>look at it. Thank you!
>
>Steve Erbach
>Neenah, WI

Robert L. Stewart
www.WeBeDb.com
www.DBGUIDesign.com
www.RLStewartPhotography.com 

From rls at WeBeDb.com  Mon Feb 27 09:27:36 2012
From: rls at WeBeDb.com (Robert Stewart)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:27:36 -0600
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Database backups
Message-ID: <4F39A8A4-D7EB-40DE-8476-6360ED0E6AD5@holly.arvixe.com>

John,

Below is a backup stored procedure that I use on all databases.
It will give you a rotating 7 day backup  If you need it more often,
4 or 5 time a day, then you can add a time stamp for when it is run
at the end of the name of the file.

The WITH INIT will overwrite the file each time.

Changing the recovery mode to SIMPLE and then back to FULL
will allow for the log to be truncated.  This part, you may only want
to run at the midnight backup, and use one that does not change the
recovery model during the day if you are backing up multiple times
during the day.


CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[usp_BackupDatabase_DOW]
     /*
            Purpose: to back up the database and automatically 
truncate the log file
            Author: Robert L. Stewart
            Paramaters: None
     */
AS
BEGIN
     DECLARE
             @DOW AS TINYINT
           , @FileName AS VARCHAR( 250 )
           , @FileExtension AS VARCHAR( 5 )
           , @FilePath AS VARCHAR( 100 )
           , @DOW_String VARCHAR( 15 )

     SET @DOW = DATEPART( dw , current_timestamp )

     /* allows you to set a path other than the local server */

     SET @FilePath = 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL 
Server\MSSQL10_50.MSSQLSERVER\MSSQL\Backup\'

     SET @FileExtension = '.bak'

     IF @DOW = 1
         BEGIN
             SET @DOW_String = 'Sunday'
         END
     ELSE
         BEGIN
             IF @DOW = 2
                 BEGIN
                     SET @DOW_String = 'Monday'
                 END
             ELSE
                 BEGIN
                     IF @DOW = 3
                         BEGIN
                             SET @DOW_String = 'Tuesday'
                         END
                     ELSE
                         BEGIN
                             IF @DOW = 4
                                 BEGIN
                                     SET @DOW_String = 'Wednesday'
                                 END
                             ELSE
                                 BEGIN
                                     IF @DOW = 5
                                         BEGIN
                                             SET @DOW_String = 'Thursday'
                                         END
                                     ELSE
                                         BEGIN
                                             IF @DOW = 6
                                                 BEGIN
                                                     SET @DOW_String = 'Friday'
                                                 END
                                             ELSE
                                                 BEGIN
                                                     IF @DOW = 7
                                                         BEGIN
                                                             SET 
@DOW_String = 'Saturday'
                                                         END
                                                 END
                                         END
                                 END
                         END
                 END
         END

     SET @DOW_String = 'Daily'

    /* this line may have to be chaged to a select into a variable
    and then checked*/

     IF DATABASEPROPERTYEX( 'USL_DW' , 'Recovery' ) != 'SIMPLE'
         BEGIN

             /* set the recovery model to simple*/

             ALTER DATABASE USL_DW SET RECOVERY SIMPLE;
         END

     SET @FileName = @FilePath + 'USL_DW_' + @DOW_String + @FileExtension

     BACKUP DATABASE USL_DW TO DISK = @FileName WITH INIT;

     SET @FileName = @FilePath + 'USL_DW_Log_' + @DOW_String + @FileExtension

     BACKUP LOG USL_DW_Log TO @FileName WITH INIT

     BEGIN
         DBCC SHRINKFILE( USL_DW_Log , 1 )
     END

     ALTER DATABASE USL_DW SET RECOVERY FULL;

END


>Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:46:34 -0500
>From: jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>To: Sqlserver-Dba <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Database backups
>Message-ID: <4F49106A.90005 at colbyconsulting.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>How does an incremental database backup work?  I kinda have a 
>picture in my head, only the changed
>stuff is backed up, to the same file (maybe?) and so forth.  Not 
>even sure if that is true.
>
>What about restores from?  Is the entire thing restored?  Only 
>changes from a specific date / time?
>
>My client will never have more than my expertise (which is scary) so 
>I need to get a handle on this.
>
>ATM they are backing up the entire thing every night using "windows 
>backup", but I doubt that they
>are testing restores.  I have found some scripts that seem to do a 
>good job (though how would I
>know?) here:
>
>http://ola.hallengren.com/downloads.html
>
>I have built them up in a _DISMaster database where I keep such 
>things.  I actually ran them and got
>a full backup of every user database (that is what I specified to 
>the SP) in the default backup
>location in a directory structure that this script builds if necessary.
>
>It looks like this thing could be the basis for a backup strategy, 
>but I need to know more about
>restores specifically.
>
>The client is a call center for insurance claims.  The entire 
>company is about 50-60 people with
>about 25 people in the database all day.
>
>The data was going into Access MDB backends but we are moving 
>towards SQL Server backends.  They
>work all day adding / modifying data.  I would like to be able to do 
>a "point in time" kind of
>restore in case of disaster.  AFAICT that means that I have to do a 
>backup every N minutes / hours
>or something like that in order to ensure that we can get back to a 
>point in time N minutes / hours ago.
>
>Am I close?  As I have said many times I am not a SQL Server admin 
>so I need to learn enough about
>this specific subject to handle this aspect of the business.
>
>Any advice or concise focused readings you can point me to would be 
>very much appreciated.
>
>--
>John W. Colby
>Colby Consulting

Robert L. Stewart
www.WeBeDb.com
www.DBGUIDesign.com
www.RLStewartPhotography.com