From jeff.developer at gmail.com Tue Aug 13 08:21:58 2013 From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff B) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 08:21:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) Message-ID: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com> Does anyone have experience doing this? I have a need to test it out for reliability and feasibility. From fhtapia at gmail.com Tue Aug 13 09:23:05 2013 From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 07:23:05 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) In-Reply-To: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com> References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Jeff, I've worked on a project that involved over the internet connection to a database server, and while it's feasible, however, it's not always reliable because it depends on your internet connection to your server. You will want to build in a solution on what the system should do if it can't commit it's changes. With MS Access it doesn't seem to handle a sudden disconnect gracefully, so you will want to build something in to know what to do if you get suddenly disconnected such as local caching, then bundling the data and transferring to the server once a connection is restored. -- Francisco -Francisco On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Jeff B wrote: > Does anyone have experience doing this? I have a need to test it out for > reliability and feasibility. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Aug 13 11:35:28 2013 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 17:35:28 +0100 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Jeff As Francisco says, this is easy to do but you need to take care about when you start and finish your data exchange. I have been using Access =>> ODBC =>> SQL Server for many years with no complaints. If your data is hypercritical, you need to think about batches and some way to ensure you get fully complete batches before you complete you transaction. There are lots of options but to be honest in many of mine, I just have a select or an insert and run it and it usually just works. If you can write your code so that it can just run a second time, then you will have no difficulties. Enjoy :) Mark On 13 August 2013 15:23, Francisco Tapia wrote: > Hey Jeff, > I've worked on a project that involved over the internet connection to a > database server, and while it's feasible, however, it's not always reliable > because it depends on your internet connection to your server. You will > want to build in a solution on what the system should do if it can't commit > it's changes. > > With MS Access it doesn't seem to handle a sudden disconnect gracefully, so > you will want to build something in to know what to do if you get suddenly > disconnected such as local caching, then bundling the data and transferring > to the server once a connection is restored. > > -- > Francisco > > > > > -Francisco > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Jeff B wrote: > > > Does anyone have experience doing this? I have a need to test it out for > > reliability and feasibility. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-SQLServer mailing list > > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From dw-murphy at cox.net Tue Aug 13 12:15:47 2013 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:15:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005101ce9848$c0b556a0$422003e0$@cox.net> Hi Jeff, I have done it to pull in data from a SQL server db on a hosted web server. We just use the data for reporting, so connection issues have not been a problem. If this is for doing actual work you might want to look at using client side ado record sets or connect bring your working data into temp tables and then disconnect. Connect again to update the server data. Really depends on the requirements. Doug -----Original Message----- From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff B Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:22 AM To: "DBA-AccessD (AccessD)"@databaseadvisors.com; Dba-SQL Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) Does anyone have experience doing this? I have a need to test it out for reliability and feasibility. _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jnatola at hotmail.com Tue Aug 13 12:55:36 2013 From: jnatola at hotmail.com (J- P) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:55:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com>, , Message-ID: Hi all, I'm not sure if this is an Access or SQL question, so please excuse me if I'm in the wrong area, New PC's running 7 64 and are using access 2010 32bit runtime to connect to a sql express 2005 database, Computers are new, new gigabit poe switch and new cat 6 has been run (and tested and certified), one user has already been disconnected and kicked out twice today, I want to leave a trace running on sql till end of business , should I be concerned about performance issues, or is there another way to troubleshoot this? server windows 2003 r2 dual 1.84GB rammirror 80gb sata mdf is 900mbldf is 8gb however,DBCC SQLPERF(logspace) shows; DATABASE 7608.305 0.9379592 0 and when I look at the general properties in smss it shows Size 8492.75MBSpace Avail 206.38 MB# of Users 17 Any pointers are greatly appreciated From fhtapia at gmail.com Tue Aug 13 13:10:41 2013 From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:10:41 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: you need to truncate that log file, your system is unnecessarily seeking on that file if you mis-spoke and meant 8mb then disregard. if you DID mean 8GB for the ldf (Transaction Log File) make sure you either A) are on the correct recovery option for your database (Full for up to the minute failures, or Simple, for nightly backups restores only). run a backup of the log then a shrinkfile, in general the rule of thumb is that the transaction log file should only be about 10% of your database size. If you have load operations that occur regularly, then it should be only as large as your largest data load table. This will help mitigate the server side problem. however, there is a known problem running on Express on 2003 server: 4.0 Database Engine The notes in this section are late-breaking items for the SQL Server 2005 Database Engine and Database Engine-specific command prompt utilities that also apply to SQL Server Express. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910229/en-us 4.1 Connections May Be Forcibly Closed When Running on Windows Server 2003 > SP1 > If TCP/IP networking is turned on, client connections to an instance of > the SQL Server Express Database Engine running on Windows Server 2003 > Service Pack 1 might fail with the following error: > > ProviderNum: 7, Error: 10054, ErrorMessage: "TCP Provider: An existing > connection was forcibly closed by the remote host". > > > This might occur when you are testing scalability with a large number of > client connection attempts. To resolve this issue, use the regedit.exe > utility to add a new DWORD value named SynAttackProtect to the registry key > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\ > with value data of 00000000 > . > > *Security Note* Setting this registry key might expose the server to a > SYN flood denial-of-service attack. Remove this registry value when testing > is complete. > > *Note* Incorrectly editing the registry can cause serious problems that > might require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot > guarantee that problems resulting from editing the registry incorrectly can > be resolved. Before editing the registry, back up any valuable data. For > more information about how to back up, restore, and edit the registry, > click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft > Knowledge Base: > 256986 Description of the > Microsoft Windows registry > -Francisco On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:55 AM, J- P wrote: > Hi all, > > > > I'm not sure if this is an Access or SQL question, so please excuse me if > I'm in the wrong area, > > New PC's running 7 64 and are using access 2010 32bit runtime to connect > to a sql express 2005 database, > > Computers are new, new gigabit poe switch and new cat 6 has been run (and > tested and certified), one user has already been disconnected and kicked > out twice today, I want to leave a trace running on sql till end of > business , should I be concerned about performance issues, or is there > another way to troubleshoot this? server windows 2003 r2 dual 1.84GB > rammirror 80gb sata mdf is 900mbldf is 8gb however,DBCC SQLPERF(logspace) > shows; > DATABASE 7608.305 0.9379592 0 and when I look at the general > properties in smss it shows Size 8492.75MBSpace Avail 206.38 MB# of > Users 17 Any pointers are greatly appreciated > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From jnatola at hotmail.com Tue Aug 13 13:28:15 2013 From: jnatola at hotmail.com (J- P) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:28:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com>, , , , Message-ID: As I inherited this when I took over the network, (and by no means a dba) the backup model is set to full, there are log backups that run every hour, and nightly database backups that occur at 11 (in addition, there is a remote backup that I implemented that takes the hourly trn files and the nightly backup off site (a bit redundant but better safe than sorry). Looking at the "general" properties of the DB it indeed says last database backup 8/12/2013 11 pm last database log backup 8/12/2013 2pm I did try a manual backup log file but the it has no affect on the LDF , and it is 8 GIGs Should I change the recovery model, or what is the best option to shrink this 8GB mammoth? Can I do a SHRINKFILE during operation hours? Also I did read that windows 7 64 bit and access 2007 had well known issue that suggests/recommends turning off llmnr http://accessexperts.com/blog/2011/11/02/windows-7-64bit-slow-with-access-2007-solved/ But it doesn't say if that carried over to 2010- Jean-Paul Natola > From: fhtapia at gmail.com > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:10:41 -0700 > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB > > you need to truncate that log file, your system is unnecessarily seeking on > that file if you mis-spoke and meant 8mb then disregard. if you DID mean > 8GB for the ldf (Transaction Log File) make sure you either A) are on the > correct recovery option for your database (Full for up to the minute > failures, or Simple, for nightly backups restores only). > > run a backup of the log then a shrinkfile, in general the rule of thumb is > that the transaction log file should only be about 10% of your database > size. If you have load operations that occur regularly, then it should be > only as large as your largest data load table. > > This will help mitigate the server side problem. > > however, there is a known problem running on Express on 2003 server: > 4.0 Database Engine > The notes in this section are late-breaking items for the SQL Server 2005 > Database Engine and Database Engine-specific command prompt utilities that > also apply to SQL Server Express. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910229/en-us > > 4.1 Connections May Be Forcibly Closed When Running on Windows Server 2003 > > SP1 > > If TCP/IP networking is turned on, client connections to an instance of > > the SQL Server Express Database Engine running on Windows Server 2003 > > Service Pack 1 might fail with the following error: > > > > ProviderNum: 7, Error: 10054, ErrorMessage: "TCP Provider: An existing > > connection was forcibly closed by the remote host". > > > > > > This might occur when you are testing scalability with a large number of > > client connection attempts. To resolve this issue, use the regedit.exe > > utility to add a new DWORD value named SynAttackProtect to the registry key > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\ > > with value data of 00000000 > > . > > > > *Security Note* Setting this registry key might expose the server to a > > SYN flood denial-of-service attack. Remove this registry value when testing > > is complete. > > > > *Note* Incorrectly editing the registry can cause serious problems that > > might require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot > > guarantee that problems resulting from editing the registry incorrectly can > > be resolved. Before editing the registry, back up any valuable data. For > > more information about how to back up, restore, and edit the registry, > > click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft > > Knowledge Base: > > 256986 Description of the > > Microsoft Windows registry > > > > > > > -Francisco > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:55 AM, J- P wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if this is an Access or SQL question, so please excuse me if > > I'm in the wrong area, > > > > New PC's running 7 64 and are using access 2010 32bit runtime to connect > > to a sql express 2005 database, > > > > Computers are new, new gigabit poe switch and new cat 6 has been run (and > > tested and certified), one user has already been disconnected and kicked > > out twice today, I want to leave a trace running on sql till end of > > business , should I be concerned about performance issues, or is there > > another way to troubleshoot this? server windows 2003 r2 dual 1.84GB > > rammirror 80gb sata mdf is 900mbldf is 8gb however,DBCC SQLPERF(logspace) > > shows; > > DATABASE 7608.305 0.9379592 0 and when I look at the general > > properties in smss it shows Size 8492.75MBSpace Avail 206.38 MB# of > > Users 17 Any pointers are greatly appreciated > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-SQLServer mailing list > > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fhtapia at gmail.com Tue Aug 13 16:02:14 2013 From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:02:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: replies in-line... -Francisco On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:28 AM, J- P wrote: > As I inherited this when I took over the network, (and by no means a dba) > the backup model > is set to full, there are log backups that run every hour, and nightly > database backups that occur at 11 (in addition, there is a remote backup > that I implemented that takes the hourly trn files and the nightly backup > off site (a bit redundant but better safe than sorry). > > Looking at the "general" properties of the DB it indeed says > last database backup 8/12/2013 11 pm > last database log backup 8/12/2013 2pm > > I did try a manual backup log file but the it has no affect on the LDF , > and it is 8 GIGs > > Should I change the recovery model, or what is the best option to shrink > this 8GB mammoth? > the FULL recovery model is reserved for mission critical systems where you cannot afford to lose not even a minute of data. On a system failure your initial thing to attempt is to perform a backup of the transaction log, when you go to recover the database you restore up to a point in time by first applying the full backup then each subsequent transaction log file until you reach the "point in time" you want to recover to. There is no need to change the recovery model if the system meets those requirements and the business cannot afford to loose not even a minute of data. other workarounds allow you to setup the recovery model as a SIMPLE recovery, where you have nightly full backups (or weekly if they are too large) then hourly differential backups (or by whatever the largest acceptable data loss the business is wiling to accept). Can I do a SHRINKFILE during operation hours? > Yes, it simply brings down the file size, and should have very little impact to system performance while it shrinks the file. You must always perform a log backup before you run a shrinkfile on the log file. Also I did read that windows 7 64 bit and access 2007 had well known issue > that suggests/recommends turning off llmnr > > > http://accessexperts.com/blog/2011/11/02/windows-7-64bit-slow-with-access-2007-solved/ > > But it doesn't say if that carried over to 2010- > i'm not familiar with that issue, but it might help, per the other article though this seems to be a normal issues with Sql Express on Windows 2003 SP1. Do you know the SP of both your DB Engine and the Windows Server? > > Jean-Paul Natola > > > > > > From: fhtapia at gmail.com > > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:10:41 -0700 > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB > > > > you need to truncate that log file, your system is unnecessarily seeking > on > > that file if you mis-spoke and meant 8mb then disregard. if you DID mean > > 8GB for the ldf (Transaction Log File) make sure you either A) are on the > > correct recovery option for your database (Full for up to the minute > > failures, or Simple, for nightly backups restores only). > > > > run a backup of the log then a shrinkfile, in general the rule of thumb > is > > that the transaction log file should only be about 10% of your database > > size. If you have load operations that occur regularly, then it should > be > > only as large as your largest data load table. > > > > This will help mitigate the server side problem. > > > > however, there is a known problem running on Express on 2003 server: > > 4.0 Database Engine > > The notes in this section are late-breaking items for the SQL Server 2005 > > Database Engine and Database Engine-specific command prompt utilities > that > > also apply to SQL Server Express. > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910229/en-us > > > > 4.1 Connections May Be Forcibly Closed When Running on Windows Server > 2003 > > > SP1 > > > If TCP/IP networking is turned on, client connections to an instance of > > > the SQL Server Express Database Engine running on Windows Server 2003 > > > Service Pack 1 might fail with the following error: > > > > > > ProviderNum: 7, Error: 10054, ErrorMessage: "TCP Provider: An existing > > > connection was forcibly closed by the remote host". > > > > > > > > > This might occur when you are testing scalability with a large number > of > > > client connection attempts. To resolve this issue, use the regedit.exe > > > utility to add a new DWORD value named SynAttackProtect to the > registry key > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\ > > > with value data of 00000000 > > > . > > > > > > *Security Note* Setting this registry key might expose the server to a > > > SYN flood denial-of-service attack. Remove this registry value when > testing > > > is complete. > > > > > > *Note* Incorrectly editing the registry can cause serious problems that > > > might require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot > > > guarantee that problems resulting from editing the registry > incorrectly can > > > be resolved. Before editing the registry, back up any valuable data. > For > > > more information about how to back up, restore, and edit the registry, > > > click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft > > > Knowledge Base: > > > 256986 Description of the > > > Microsoft Windows registry > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Francisco > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:55 AM, J- P wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if this is an Access or SQL question, so please excuse me > if > > > I'm in the wrong area, > > > > > > New PC's running 7 64 and are using access 2010 32bit runtime to > connect > > > to a sql express 2005 database, > > > > > > Computers are new, new gigabit poe switch and new cat 6 has been run > (and > > > tested and certified), one user has already been disconnected and > kicked > > > out twice today, I want to leave a trace running on sql till end of > > > business , should I be concerned about performance issues, or is there > > > another way to troubleshoot this? server windows 2003 r2 dual 1.84GB > > > rammirror 80gb sata mdf is 900mbldf is 8gb however,DBCC > SQLPERF(logspace) > > > shows; > > > DATABASE 7608.305 0.9379592 0 and when I look at the general > > > properties in smss it shows Size 8492.75MBSpace Avail 206.38 MB# of > > > Users 17 Any pointers are greatly appreciated > > > > ___ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From jnatola at hotmail.com Tue Aug 13 21:54:26 2013 From: jnatola at hotmail.com (J- P) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:54:26 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com>, , , , , , Message-ID: So I changed recovery to simple, did a shrink via smss and selected log, shrink, reclaim unused space and WOW did it shrink, it went down to 1MB , thats not even 1 % , much less 10% of the DB size (hope I didnt muck it up) Then I reverted back to full recovery , ran a full backup and a log backup and its still working, as far as versions they are the following ; 2003 r2 sp2 sql 9.0.5000 sp4 What are items I should look for in a trace that should be considered "flags" - this DB started in access 97, went through many hands and "coders" (using the term loosely,) then went to sql express , and the front end has gone from Access 97 to 2000, , xp, 2003, and now on 2010 So there are many places that it could go wrong- If I were to open a PSS case, should I open an Access 2010 case or SQL case? From fhtapia at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 08:36:39 2013 From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:36:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey JP, I would grow the log to at least 10%, this will keep it from fragmenting too quickly, in general this is the size you want for your transaction log. (the exception is if you perform large table modifications that eat up larger than the 10% size you set up) lastly, if you can I would build a small c# windows app, that hooks into your database. and have it email you or alert you whenever it disconnects from the server. The problem you are experiencing may still be database engine related. -Francisco On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, J- P wrote: > So I changed recovery to simple, did a shrink via smss and selected log, > shrink, reclaim unused space > and WOW did it shrink, it went down to 1MB , thats not even 1 % , much > less 10% of the DB size (hope I didnt muck it up) > > Then > I reverted back to full recovery , ran a full backup and a log backup > and its still working, as far as versions they are the following ; > > 2003 r2 sp2 > sql 9.0.5000 sp4 > > What > are items I should look for in a trace that should be considered > "flags" - this DB started in access 97, went through many hands and > "coders" (using the term loosely,) then went to sql express , and the > front end has gone from Access 97 to 2000, , xp, 2003, and now on 2010 > > So there are many places that it could go wrong- If I were to open a PSS > case, should I open an Access 2010 case or SQL case? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From fhtapia at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 08:39:20 2013 From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:39:20 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: so to help troubleshoot your version of windows 2003 r2 and the sql server engine, follow the tips in this kb http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942861 and report back if any of it helps (or is unhelpful). good luck! -Francisco On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Francisco Tapia wrote: > Hey JP, > I would grow the log to at least 10%, this will keep it from fragmenting > too quickly, in general this is the size you want for your transaction > log. (the exception is if you perform large table modifications that eat > up larger than the 10% size you set up) > > lastly, if you can I would build a small c# windows app, that hooks into > your database. and have it email you or alert you whenever it disconnects > from the server. The problem you are experiencing may still be database > engine related. > > > -Francisco > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, J- P wrote: > >> So I changed recovery to simple, did a shrink via smss and selected log, >> shrink, reclaim unused space >> and WOW did it shrink, it went down to 1MB , thats not even 1 % , much >> less 10% of the DB size (hope I didnt muck it up) >> >> Then >> I reverted back to full recovery , ran a full backup and a log backup >> and its still working, as far as versions they are the following ; >> >> 2003 r2 sp2 >> sql 9.0.5000 sp4 >> >> What >> are items I should look for in a trace that should be considered >> "flags" - this DB started in access 97, went through many hands and >> "coders" (using the term loosely,) then went to sql express , and the >> front end has gone from Access 97 to 2000, , xp, 2003, and now on 2010 >> >> So there are many places that it could go wrong- If I were to open a PSS >> case, should I open an Access 2010 case or SQL case? >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-SQLServer mailing list >> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver >> http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > From jnatola at hotmail.com Tue Aug 13 18:40:54 2013 From: jnatola at hotmail.com (J- P) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 19:40:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com>, , , , , , Message-ID: So I changed recovery to simple, did a shrink via smss and selected log, shrink, reclaim unused space and WOW did it shrink, it went down to 1MB , thats not even 1 % , much less 10% of the DB size (hope I didnt muck it up) Then I reverted back to full recovery , ran a full backup and a log backup and its still working, as far as versions they are the following ; 2003 r2 sp2 sql 9.0.5000 sp4 What are items I should look for in a trace that should be considered "flags" - this DB started in access 97, went through many hands and "coders" (using the term loosely,) then went to sql express , and the front end has gone from Access 97 to 2000, , xp, 2003, and now on 2010 So there are many places that it could go wrong- If I were to open a PSS case, should I open an Access 2010 case or SQL case? Thanks again for your help Jean-Paul Natola > From: fhtapia at gmail.com > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:02:14 -0700 > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB > > replies in-line... > > -Francisco > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:28 AM, J- P wrote: > > > As I inherited this when I took over the network, (and by no means a dba) > > the backup model > > is set to full, there are log backups that run every hour, and nightly > > database backups that occur at 11 (in addition, there is a remote backup > > that I implemented that takes the hourly trn files and the nightly backup > > off site (a bit redundant but better safe than sorry). > > > > Looking at the "general" properties of the DB it indeed says > > last database backup 8/12/2013 11 pm > > last database log backup 8/12/2013 2pm > > > > I did try a manual backup log file but the it has no affect on the LDF , > > and it is 8 GIGs > > > > Should I change the recovery model, or what is the best option to shrink > > this 8GB mammoth? > > > > the FULL recovery model is reserved for mission critical systems where you > cannot afford to lose not even a minute of data. On a system failure your > initial thing to attempt is to perform a backup of the transaction log, > when you go to recover the database you restore up to a point in time by > first applying the full backup then each subsequent transaction log file > until you reach the "point in time" you want to recover to. There is no > need to change the recovery model if the system meets those requirements > and the business cannot afford to loose not even a minute of data. > > other workarounds allow you to setup the recovery model as a SIMPLE > recovery, where you have nightly full backups (or weekly if they are too > large) then hourly differential backups (or by whatever the largest > acceptable data loss the business is wiling to accept). > > > Can I do a SHRINKFILE during operation hours? > > > > Yes, it simply brings down the file size, and should have very little > impact to system performance while it shrinks the file. > You must always perform a log backup before you run a shrinkfile on the > log file. > > > Also I did read that windows 7 64 bit and access 2007 had well known issue > > that suggests/recommends turning off llmnr > > > > > > http://accessexperts.com/blog/2011/11/02/windows-7-64bit-slow-with-access-2007-solved/ > > > > But it doesn't say if that carried over to 2010- > > > > i'm not familiar with that issue, but it might help, per the other article > though this seems to be a normal issues with Sql Express on Windows 2003 > SP1. Do you know the SP of both your DB Engine and the Windows Server? > > > > > > > Jean-Paul Natola > > > > > > > > > > > From: fhtapia at gmail.com > > > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:10:41 -0700 > > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB > > > > > > you need to truncate that log file, your system is unnecessarily seeking > > on > > > that file if you mis-spoke and meant 8mb then disregard. if you DID mean > > > 8GB for the ldf (Transaction Log File) make sure you either A) are on the > > > correct recovery option for your database (Full for up to the minute > > > failures, or Simple, for nightly backups restores only). > > > > > > run a backup of the log then a shrinkfile, in general the rule of thumb > > is > > > that the transaction log file should only be about 10% of your database > > > size. If you have load operations that occur regularly, then it should > > be > > > only as large as your largest data load table. > > > > > > This will help mitigate the server side problem. > > > > > > however, there is a known problem running on Express on 2003 server: > > > 4.0 Database Engine > > > The notes in this section are late-breaking items for the SQL Server 2005 > > > Database Engine and Database Engine-specific command prompt utilities > > that > > > also apply to SQL Server Express. > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910229/en-us > > > > > > 4.1 Connections May Be Forcibly Closed When Running on Windows Server > > 2003 > > > > SP1 > > > > If TCP/IP networking is turned on, client connections to an instance of > > > > the SQL Server Express Database Engine running on Windows Server 2003 > > > > Service Pack 1 might fail with the following error: > > > > > > > > ProviderNum: 7, Error: 10054, ErrorMessage: "TCP Provider: An existing > > > > connection was forcibly closed by the remote host". > > > > > > > > > > > > This might occur when you are testing scalability with a large number > > of > > > > client connection attempts. To resolve this issue, use the regedit.exe > > > > utility to add a new DWORD value named SynAttackProtect to the > > registry key > > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\ > > > > with value data of 00000000 > > > > . > > > > > > > > *Security Note* Setting this registry key might expose the server to a > > > > SYN flood denial-of-service attack. Remove this registry value when > > testing > > > > is complete. > > > > > > > > *Note* Incorrectly editing the registry can cause serious problems that > > > > might require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot > > > > guarantee that problems resulting from editing the registry > > incorrectly can > > > > be resolved. Before editing the registry, back up any valuable data. > > For > > > > more information about how to back up, restore, and edit the registry, > > > > click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft > > > > Knowledge Base: > > > > 256986 Description of the > > > > Microsoft Windows registry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Francisco > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:55 AM, J- P wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if this is an Access or SQL question, so please excuse me > > if > > > > I'm in the wrong area, > > > > > > > > New PC's running 7 64 and are using access 2010 32bit runtime to > > connect > > > > to a sql express 2005 database, > > > > > > > > Computers are new, new gigabit poe switch and new cat 6 has been run > > (and > > > > tested and certified), one user has already been disconnected and > > kicked > > > > out twice today, I want to leave a trace running on sql till end of > > > > business , should I be concerned about performance issues, or is there > > > > another way to troubleshoot this? server windows 2003 r2 dual 1.84GB > > > > rammirror 80gb sata mdf is 900mbldf is 8gb however,DBCC > > SQLPERF(logspace) > > > > shows; > > > > DATABASE 7608.305 0.9379592 0 and when I look at the general > > > > properties in smss it shows Size 8492.75MBSpace Avail 206.38 MB# of > > > > Users 17 Any pointers are greatly appreciated > > > > > > ___ > > dba-SQLServer mailing list > > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jeff.developer at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 08:49:55 2013 From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff B) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:49:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] [AccessD] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) Message-ID: <004201ce98f5$299ede50$7cdc9af0$@gmail.com> OK, so after reading all of the responses, I have made an 'executive' decision. I have decided to look into rewriting the whole thing in vb.net. Sounds like some job security to me! Thanks to everyone that chimed in on this! Jeff Barrows MCP, MCAD, MCSD ? Racine, WI jeff.developer at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:42 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) Agreed. ADO and unbound is the only way to go with this. Also move all the Access queries to Stored procs or Views Server side and call them from Access. Let SQL Server do all the work and just bring in the results to Access. Cheers Darryl -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 7:06 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) I haven't worked in Access for some time now, but one thing to keep in mind is that Access used to create at least 3 connections for each session, which works well on a quiet, fine tuned network, but over a latency internet connection could be problematic. If you swap out the default connection objects in Access and unbind each form, and instead create ado connections back to Sql Server, you might be able to combat these latency issues if they should arise. -Francisco On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Jeff B wrote: > What I was thinking of doing was to run the Access FE from the users > laptop or desktop and host the data on a SQL Server. I also have an > ASP website connected to the same data on the SQL Server. > > Worst case, I was hoping to demo the entire project to prospective > clients; best case, I was hoping to host the entire project for clients. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:46 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the > internet(Cross Posted) > > When you say over the internet, are you talking about cloud services > or something else? > > Charlotte > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Jeff B wrote: > > > Does anyone have experience doing this? I have a need to test it > > out for reliability and feasibility. > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6574 - Release Date: > 08/13/13 > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6574 - Release Date: 08/13/13 From dw-murphy at cox.net Wed Aug 14 11:07:13 2013 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 09:07:13 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] [AccessD] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004401ce9908$571009a0$05301ce0$@cox.net> Good move. Right tool for the job. -----Original Message----- From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff B Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Dba-SQL Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] [AccessD] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) OK, so after reading all of the responses, I have made an 'executive' decision. I have decided to look into rewriting the whole thing in vb.net. Sounds like some job security to me! Thanks to everyone that chimed in on this! Jeff Barrows MCP, MCAD, MCSD ? Racine, WI jeff.developer at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:42 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) Agreed. ADO and unbound is the only way to go with this. Also move all the Access queries to Stored procs or Views Server side and call them from Access. Let SQL Server do all the work and just bring in the results to Access. Cheers Darryl -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 7:06 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the internet(Cross Posted) I haven't worked in Access for some time now, but one thing to keep in mind is that Access used to create at least 3 connections for each session, which works well on a quiet, fine tuned network, but over a latency internet connection could be problematic. If you swap out the default connection objects in Access and unbind each form, and instead create ado connections back to Sql Server, you might be able to combat these latency issues if they should arise. -Francisco On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Jeff B wrote: > What I was thinking of doing was to run the Access FE from the users > laptop or desktop and host the data on a SQL Server. I also have an > ASP website connected to the same data on the SQL Server. > > Worst case, I was hoping to demo the entire project to prospective > clients; best case, I was hoping to host the entire project for clients. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:46 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 to SQL Server 2008 over the > internet(Cross Posted) > > When you say over the internet, are you talking about cloud services > or something else? > > Charlotte > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Jeff B wrote: > > > Does anyone have experience doing this? I have a need to test it > > out for reliability and feasibility. > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6574 - Release Date: > 08/13/13 > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6574 - Release Date: 08/13/13 _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jnatola at hotmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:40:37 2013 From: jnatola at hotmail.com (J- P) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:40:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com>, , , , , , , , , Message-ID: I am making the changed on the 2003 server as per the article, One thing that has me puzzled is that looking at the memory usage of sqlserv.exe its at 1.5gb, i thought sql express was limited to 1 GB of memory , or did I misunderstand what I read? Jean-Paul Natola > From: fhtapia at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:39:20 -0700 > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB > > so to help troubleshoot your version of windows 2003 r2 and the sql server > engine, follow the tips in this kb > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942861 > > and report back if any of it helps (or is unhelpful). > > good luck! > > -Francisco > > > > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Francisco Tapia wrote: > > > Hey JP, > > I would grow the log to at least 10%, this will keep it from fragmenting > > too quickly, in general this is the size you want for your transaction > > log. (the exception is if you perform large table modifications that eat > > up larger than the 10% size you set up) > > > > lastly, if you can I would build a small c# windows app, that hooks into > > your database. and have it email you or alert you whenever it disconnects > > from the server. The problem you are experiencing may still be database > > engine related. > > > > > > -Francisco > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, J- P wrote: > > > >> So I changed recovery to simple, did a shrink via smss and selected log, > >> shrink, reclaim unused space > >> and WOW did it shrink, it went down to 1MB , thats not even 1 % , much > >> less 10% of the DB size (hope I didnt muck it up) > >> > >> Then > >> I reverted back to full recovery , ran a full backup and a log backup > >> and its still working, as far as versions they are the following ; > >> > >> 2003 r2 sp2 > >> sql 9.0.5000 sp4 > >> > >> What > >> are items I should look for in a trace that should be considered > >> "flags" - this DB started in access 97, went through many hands and > >> "coders" (using the term loosely,) then went to sql express , and the > >> front end has gone from Access 97 to 2000, , xp, 2003, and now on 2010 > >> > >> So there are many places that it could go wrong- If I were to open a PSS > >> case, should I open an Access 2010 case or SQL case? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dba-SQLServer mailing list > >> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > >> http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jnatola at hotmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:49:01 2013 From: jnatola at hotmail.com (J- P) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:49:01 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Message-ID: VM Reserved 1469608 VM Committed 1468932 AWE Allocated 0 Reserved Memory 1024 Reserved Memory In Use 0 VM Reserved 1468520 VM Committed 1467904 AWE Allocated 0 MultiPage Allocator 5736 SinglePage Allocator 338912 Jean-Paul Natola > From: jnatola at hotmail.com > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:40:37 -0400 > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB > > I am making the changed on the 2003 server as per the article, > One thing that has me puzzled is that looking at the memory usage of sqlserv.exe its at 1.5gb, i thought sql express was limited to 1 GB of memory , or did I misunderstand what I read? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Paul Natola > > > > > > From: fhtapia at gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:39:20 -0700 > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB > > > > so to help troubleshoot your version of windows 2003 r2 and the sql server > > engine, follow the tips in this kb > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942861 > > > > and report back if any of it helps (or is unhelpful). > > > > good luck! > > > > -Francisco > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Francisco Tapia wrote: > > > > > Hey JP, > > > I would grow the log to at least 10%, this will keep it from fragmenting > > > too quickly, in general this is the size you want for your transaction > > > log. (the exception is if you perform large table modifications that eat > > > up larger than the 10% size you set up) > > > > > > lastly, if you can I would build a small c# windows app, that hooks into > > > your database. and have it email you or alert you whenever it disconnects > > > from the server. The problem you are experiencing may still be database > > > engine related. > > > > > > > > > -Francisco > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, J- P wrote: > > > > > >> So I changed recovery to simple, did a shrink via smss and selected log, > > >> shrink, reclaim unused space > > >> and WOW did it shrink, it went down to 1MB , thats not even 1 % , much > > >> less 10% of the DB size (hope I didnt muck it up) > > >> > > >> Then > > >> I reverted back to full recovery , ran a full backup and a log backup > > >> and its still working, as far as versions they are the following ; > > >> > > >> 2003 r2 sp2 > > >> sql 9.0.5000 sp4 > > >> > > >> What > > >> are items I should look for in a trace that should be considered > > >> "flags" - this DB started in access 97, went through many hands and > > >> "coders" (using the term loosely,) then went to sql express , and the > > >> front end has gone from Access 97 to 2000, , xp, 2003, and now on 2010 > > >> > > >> So there are many places that it could go wrong- If I were to open a PSS > > >> case, should I open an Access 2010 case or SQL case? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> dba-SQLServer mailing list > > >> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > > >> http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-SQLServer mailing list > > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jnatola at hotmail.com Thu Aug 15 10:17:58 2013 From: jnatola at hotmail.com (J- P) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:17:58 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com>, , , , , , , , , Message-ID: A little confused here on # 4? , the article you pointed me to says to ENABLE RSS, yet the instructions on turning OFF SNP says to DISABLE RSS Disable SNP as described in the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 948496 Update to turn off SNP features for Windows Server 2003 and Windows SBS 2003 Install the hotfix that is described in the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 950224 A Scalable Networking Pack (SNP) hotfix rollup package is available for Windows Server 2003 Enable the Receive feature. By using Regedit.exe HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters EnableRSS=1 (Dword) But when i go to the instructions to turn off SNP per article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948496 its says to DISABLE RSS Right-click EnableTCPChimney, and then click Modify.In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.Right-click EnableRSS, and then click Modify.In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.Right-click EnableTCPA, and then click Modify.In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK. Exit Registry Editor, and then restart the computer. So do I Enable or Disbale RSS? ---------------------------------------- > From: fhtapia at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:39:20 -0700 > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB > > so to help troubleshoot your version of windows 2003 r2 and the sql server > engine, follow the tips in this kb > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942861 > > and report back if any of it helps (or is unhelpful). > > good luck! > > -Francisco From fhtapia at gmail.com Thu Aug 15 14:18:29 2013 From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:18:29 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB In-Reply-To: References: <005201ce9828$17e21790$47a646b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: i f you set it to 0 (disabling RSS) you you eliminate the possibility of a NIC driver not setting the RSS settings properly for the OS, which could be a problem with Windows 2003 sp2 machines and older nics that didn't support RSS properly. hope this helps... -Francisco On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:17 AM, J- P wrote: > A little confused here on # 4 , the article you pointed me to says to > ENABLE RSS, yet the instructions on turning OFF SNP says to DISABLE RSS > > Disable SNP as described in the following article in the Microsoft > Knowledge Base: > > 948496 Update to turn off SNP features for Windows Server 2003 and Windows > SBS 2003 Install the hotfix that is described in the following > article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 950224 A Scalable Networking > Pack (SNP) hotfix rollup package is available for Windows Server 2003 > Enable the Receive feature. By using Regedit.exe > HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters > EnableRSS=1 (Dword) > But when i go to the instructions to turn off SNP per article > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948496 > > its says to DISABLE RSS > Right-click EnableTCPChimney, and then > click Modify.In the Value data box, type > 0, and then click OK.Right-click > EnableRSS, and then click > Modify.In the Value data box, type > 0, and then click OK.Right-click > EnableTCPA, and then click > Modify.In the Value data box, type > 0, and then click OK. Exit Registry > Editor, and then restart the > computer. > So do I Enable or Disbale RSS? > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: fhtapia at gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:39:20 -0700 > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Access disconnecting from sql express DB > > > > so to help troubleshoot your version of windows 2003 r2 and the sql > server > > engine, follow the tips in this kb > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942861 > > > > and report back if any of it helps (or is unhelpful). > > > > good luck! > > > > -Francisco > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Aug 15 19:02:51 2013 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:02:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express Message-ID: I'm installing everything again on my spanking new laptop. Just installed SQL 2012 Express but it didn't include Mangement Studio. That must be a separate download. Can anyone tell me where to find it? -- Arthur From jnatola at hotmail.com Thu Aug 15 22:00:44 2013 From: jnatola at hotmail.com (J- P) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:00:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29062 Jean-Paul Natola > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:02:51 -0400 > From: fuller.artful at gmail.com > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express > > I'm installing everything again on my spanking new laptop. Just installed > SQL 2012 Express but it didn't include Mangement Studio. That must be a > separate download. Can anyone tell me where to find it? > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Aug 15 22:06:51 2013 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:06:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jean-Paul, That's what I installed, and it doesn't contain SSMS. Arthur On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM, J- P wrote: > http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29062 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Paul Natola > > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:02:51 -0400 > > From: fuller.artful at gmail.com > > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express > > > > I'm installing everything again on my spanking new laptop. Just installed > > SQL 2012 Express but it didn't include Mangement Studio. That must be a > > separate download. Can anyone tell me where to find it? > > > > -- > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-SQLServer mailing list > > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Aug 15 22:12:10 2013 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:12:10 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jean-Paul, My mistake. I didn't scroll far enough down the page. Got it now! On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Jean-Paul, > > That's what I installed, and it doesn't contain SSMS. > > Arthur > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM, J- P wrote: > >> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29062 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jean-Paul Natola >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:02:51 -0400 >> > From: fuller.artful at gmail.com >> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com >> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express >> > >> > I'm installing everything again on my spanking new laptop. Just >> installed >> > SQL 2012 Express but it didn't include Mangement Studio. That must be a >> > separate download. Can anyone tell me where to find it? >> > >> > -- >> > Arthur >> > _______________________________________________ >> > dba-SQLServer mailing list >> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver >> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-SQLServer mailing list >> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver >> http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > -- > Arthur > > -- Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 06:55:21 2013 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 07:55:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Still no joy, it turns out. And this is what really angers me. The last file I found and downloaded is called ENU\x64\SQLManagementStudio_x64_ENU.exe, and it does not contain SSMS. Damn you, MS! Now I'm going to try the file ENU\x64\SQLEXPRADV_x64_ENU.exe, which is 1.3GB. Maybe that will contain all the required bits. Good thing I'm semi-retired and have time on my hands :) Arthur On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Jean-Paul, > > My mistake. I didn't scroll far enough down the page. Got it now! > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > >> Jean-Paul, >> >> That's what I installed, and it doesn't contain SSMS. >> >> Arthur >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM, J- P wrote: >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29062 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jean-Paul Natola >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:02:51 -0400 >>> > From: fuller.artful at gmail.com >>> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com >>> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express >>> > >>> > I'm installing everything again on my spanking new laptop. Just >>> installed >>> > SQL 2012 Express but it didn't include Mangement Studio. That must be a >>> > separate download. Can anyone tell me where to find it? >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Arthur >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > dba-SQLServer mailing list >>> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver >>> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-SQLServer mailing list >>> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver >>> http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Arthur >> >> > > > -- > Arthur > > -- Arthur From dw-murphy at cox.net Fri Aug 16 11:33:24 2013 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:33:24 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003801ce9a9e$54325ca0$fc9715e0$@cox.net> I am not familiar with SQL server 2012 express but in the 2010 version there was a SQL Server Express 2010 with Tools install package. If this is available for 2012 it might be easier to uninstall what you have and get the full package. For some reason MS has made SQL Server installations extremely painful and time consuming. -----Original Message----- From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:55 AM To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express Still no joy, it turns out. And this is what really angers me. The last file I found and downloaded is called ENU\x64\SQLManagementStudio_x64_ENU.exe, and it does not contain SSMS. Damn you, MS! Now I'm going to try the file ENU\x64\SQLEXPRADV_x64_ENU.exe, which is 1.3GB. Maybe that will contain all the required bits. Good thing I'm semi-retired and have time on my hands :) Arthur On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Jean-Paul, > > My mistake. I didn't scroll far enough down the page. Got it now! > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > >> Jean-Paul, >> >> That's what I installed, and it doesn't contain SSMS. >> >> Arthur >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM, J- P wrote: >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29062 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jean-Paul Natola >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:02:51 -0400 >>> > From: fuller.artful at gmail.com >>> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com >>> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express >>> > >>> > I'm installing everything again on my spanking new laptop. Just >>> installed >>> > SQL 2012 Express but it didn't include Mangement Studio. That must >>> > be a separate download. Can anyone tell me where to find it? >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Arthur >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > dba-SQLServer mailing list >>> > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver >>> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-SQLServer mailing list >>> dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver >>> http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Arthur >> >> > > > -- > Arthur > > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 12:00:39 2013 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:00:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: <003801ce9a9e$54325ca0$fc9715e0$@cox.net> References: <003801ce9a9e$54325ca0$fc9715e0$@cox.net> Message-ID: I finally got everything up and running. Finally. And as I go, I'm learning a few things about working with tiles (WIn8). I've rearranged my Start tiles to include the programs I use most. Top left tile is now Desktop, beneath it Chrome and FireFox, SSMS now too, and various other apps. I like this! On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Doug Murphy wrote: > I am not familiar with SQL server 2012 express but in the 2010 version > there > was a SQL Server Express 2010 with Tools install package. If this is > available for 2012 it might be easier to uninstall what you have and get > the > full package. For some reason MS has made SQL Server installations > extremely > painful and time consuming. > From rls at WeBeDb.com Mon Aug 19 08:29:27 2013 From: rls at WeBeDb.com (Robert Stewart) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:29:27 -0500 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try this link and download the one with Tools: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/hh230763.aspx At 10:07 PM 8/15/2013, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:02:51 -0400 >From: Arthur Fuller >To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server > >Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >I'm installing everything again on my spanking new laptop. Just installed >SQL 2012 Express but it didn't include Mangement Studio. That must be a >separate download. Can anyone tell me where to find it? > >-- >Arthur Robert L. Stewart Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand. --Martin Fowler www.WeBeDb.com www.DBGUIDesign.com www.RLStewartPhotography.com From fhtapia at gmail.com Mon Aug 19 16:33:04 2013 From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:33:04 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: <003801ce9a9e$54325ca0$fc9715e0$@cox.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I finally got everything up and running. Finally. And as I go, I'm learning > a few things about working with tiles (WIn8). I've rearranged my Start > tiles to include the programs I use most. Top left tile is now Desktop, > beneath it Chrome and FireFox, SSMS now too, and various other apps. I like > this! > wow... You may be the first person I hear positive feedback on win8. I personally really like it but I have to confess that I no longer use windows as a casual machine at home. When I do use a windows machine at home I am using win8 on an ssd equipped machine, it has a bit of software installed but i am impressed than on a core2duo machine it can boot up in less than 15seconds. pretty sweet. -Francisco From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Aug 20 01:42:10 2013 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:42:10 +0200 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express Message-ID: <000901ce9d70$65caf1a0$3160d4e0$@cactus.dk> Hi Francisco I use Windows 8 every day and have done so since the first developer pre-release. It works very well and is very fast booting, and awake from sleep is only a couple of seconds even with a standard HDD. Also, I've never understood the weeping over the lost Start button - the new Start screen is so much better and flexible, exactly as Arthur describes. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Francisco Tapia Sendt: 19. august 2013 23:33 Til: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server Emne: Re: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I finally got everything up and running. Finally. And as I go, I'm > learning a few things about working with tiles (WIn8). I've rearranged > my Start tiles to include the programs I use most. Top left tile is > now Desktop, beneath it Chrome and FireFox, SSMS now too, and various > other apps. I like this! > wow... You may be the first person I hear positive feedback on win8. I personally really like it but I have to confess that I no longer use windows as a casual machine at home. When I do use a windows machine at home I am using win8 on an ssd equipped machine, it has a bit of software installed but i am impressed than on a core2duo machine it can boot up in less than 15seconds. pretty sweet. -Francisco From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Tue Aug 20 01:44:09 2013 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:44:09 +0100 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: <003801ce9a9e$54325ca0$fc9715e0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082959C58B0C2C9@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Arthur I am using it on a Surface and I think it's great. Once you get the hang of the tiles and the short cuts the Surface beats the Ipad hands down for all things Microsoft etc. Remote desktop works great and for me who lives in a Microsoft Word it's a great tool. Martin -----Original Message----- From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia Sent: 19 August 2013 22:33 To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I finally got everything up and running. Finally. And as I go, I'm > learning a few things about working with tiles (WIn8). I've rearranged > my Start tiles to include the programs I use most. Top left tile is > now Desktop, beneath it Chrome and FireFox, SSMS now too, and various > other apps. I like this! > wow... You may be the first person I hear positive feedback on win8. I personally really like it but I have to confess that I no longer use windows as a casual machine at home. When I do use a windows machine at home I am using win8 on an ssd equipped machine, it has a bit of software installed but i am impressed than on a core2duo machine it can boot up in less than 15seconds. pretty sweet. -Francisco _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Aug 20 03:21:21 2013 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:21:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: <003801ce9a9e$54325ca0$fc9715e0$@cox.net> Message-ID: The goal is that it should boot in the same time that it takes a light bulb to boot. That goal remains elusive, but in the mean time Win8 is a good starting point. Forget about a Win7 choice. If you are determined to stay in the Windows realm, then go for Win8. It might take your consumers a day or two to absorb the new UI, but the single most important instruction you can give them is to tap on the Windows key, which will oscillate between the Modern interface and the traditional DeskTop interface. Mind you, I recently converted my aging tower (recently renovated with a new MotherBoard and new RAM On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Arthur Fuller >wrote: > > > I finally got everything up and running. Finally. And as I go, I'm > learning > > a few things about working with tiles (WIn8). I've rearranged my Start > > tiles to include the programs I use most. Top left tile is now Desktop, > > beneath it Chrome and FireFox, SSMS now too, and various other apps. I > like > > this! > > > > wow... > You may be the first person I hear positive feedback on win8. I > personally really like it but I have to confess that I no longer use > windows as a casual machine at home. When I do use a windows machine at > home I am using win8 on an ssd equipped machine, it has a bit of software > installed but i am impressed than on a core2duo machine it can boot up in > less than 15seconds. pretty sweet. > > > -Francisco > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Arthur From fhtapia at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 09:05:05 2013 From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:05:05 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082959C58B0C2C9@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <003801ce9a9e$54325ca0$fc9715e0$@cox.net> <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082959C58B0C2C9@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Martin Reid wrote: > I am using it on a Surface and I think it's great. Once you get the hang > of the tiles and the short cuts the Surface beats the Ipad hands down for > all things Microsoft etc. Remote desktop works great and for me who lives > in a Microsoft Word it's a great tool. wait lets not go crazy!.. I have a surface pro tablet here at work, and while the i5 processor makes the device zippy, the usability on a tablet screen makes it a non-starter for me and my colleagues. trying to use the desktop with simply just touch is horrible, I think that it is convenient that you can run native windows apps on a smaller form factor, but really it's not that small. for a tablet it's huge, and they onscreen keyboard is ok, but really you sort of really need the attachment keyboard, and for that matter if you want to use business apps like excel, then you really need the stylus, which now just gets awkward... so we went with adding a keyboard and mouse, now you have a semi laptop. match that up with a horrible battery life and the device sucks. you have to make it to a power source every few hours. our typically only runs for about 3-4 hours. When I tweaked it sleeping sooner, it was able to last longer but it still was not able to use it as a replacement tablet device. in fact it seems that for us here at the office if we need a good portable ultra laptop, it's better to go with the ultralaptop instead of the surface. for us here at the office the surface was a neat "ooh and aah" device for the execs to look at. once they used it they found that it was not as convenient as an iPad. we have different types of users, so our office users that "could" use a tablet, end up opting for an iPad for portability and battery longevity, and convenience (our mobile solutions have become almost exclusively iOS). our assemblers do not require surface pro devices and our machinist, work in an environment that is not good for a device that requires to be vented. add to that, that we have a license with apple to build our own in-house apps and have been doing so for almost 2 years now, and each iPad app that interfaces to our enterprise products are designed with simplicity in mind, and people naturally gravitate to a device where an operation is 1 or 2 taps vs 40. (yes that many). (sorry for the long winded post) -Francisco From listmaster at databaseadvisors.com Thu Aug 22 11:26:24 2013 From: listmaster at databaseadvisors.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:26:24 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Administrivia - Server Back Up and Running Message-ID: As you may have noticed, the past couple of days has had sporadic traffic at best. After much head scratching, hair pulling out, foul language, and all around pissed-offedness we are back up and running. If you notice any issues PLEASE let me know, listmaster at databaseadvisors.com or carbonnb at gmail.com Your humble listmaster. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From davidmcafee at gmail.com Thu Aug 22 11:36:12 2013 From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:36:12 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] SSMS for 2012 Express In-Reply-To: References: <003801ce9a9e$54325ca0$fc9715e0$@cox.net> <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082959C58B0C2C9@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: That's pretty much my feelings about it too. I haven't spent nearly as much time as my coworkers. They seem to love it and they are pushing it out to our sales/service reps. We would have stuck with Android/Apple if there was a easy way to print via Bluetooth as we did with our iPaqs. Wifi was just to hard to set up with every rep across the country, especially now that my boss has decided that BYOD is the way we're going to go. There were a couple of Bluetooth print apps that we tried, but they were expensive and still weren't that seamless in operation. D On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Francisco Tapia wrote: > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Martin Reid wrote: > > > I am using it on a Surface and I think it's great. Once you get the hang > > of the tiles and the short cuts the Surface beats the Ipad hands down for > > all things Microsoft etc. Remote desktop works great and for me who lives > > in a Microsoft Word it's a great tool. > > > wait lets not go crazy!.. I have a surface pro tablet here at work, and > while the i5 processor makes the device zippy, the usability on a tablet > screen makes it a non-starter for me and my colleagues. trying to use the > desktop with simply just touch is horrible, I think that it is convenient > that you can run native windows apps on a smaller form factor, but really > it's not that small. for a tablet it's huge, and they onscreen keyboard is > ok, but really you sort of really need the attachment keyboard, and for > that matter if you want to use business apps like excel, then you really > need the stylus, which now just gets awkward... so we went with adding a > keyboard and mouse, now you have a semi laptop. match that up with a > horrible battery life and the device sucks. you have to make it to a power > source every few hours. our typically only runs for about 3-4 hours. When > I tweaked it sleeping sooner, it was able to last longer but it still was > not able to use it as a replacement tablet device. in fact it seems that > for us here at the office if we need a good portable ultra laptop, it's > better to go with the ultralaptop instead of the surface. > > for us here at the office the surface was a neat "ooh and aah" device for > the execs to look at. once they used it they found that it was not as > convenient as an iPad. > > we have different types of users, so our office users that "could" use a > tablet, end up opting for an iPad for portability and battery longevity, > and convenience (our mobile solutions have become almost exclusively iOS). > our assemblers do not require surface pro devices and our machinist, work > in an environment that is not good for a device that requires to be > vented. add to that, that we have a license with apple to build our own > in-house apps and have been doing so for almost 2 years now, and each iPad > app that interfaces to our enterprise products are designed with simplicity > in mind, and people naturally gravitate to a device where an operation is 1 > or 2 taps vs 40. (yes that many). > > (sorry for the long winded post) > -Francisco >