[dba-Tech] Security measures

John Colby jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Thu Aug 28 12:20:02 CDT 2003


Mainly because the windows built-in backup is soooooo crappy I could never
figure out how to use it?  Even when I could, I could never get it to back
up to anything except tape.

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures


Yes but this wont deleted removed files!!!

Why don't you just use the backup in windows and backup to a file???



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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: John Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 28 augustus 2003 14:37
Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Onderwerp: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures


BTW, I generated a batch file that copies all of the CHANGED files from
a given path to another path.  I then run that from my windows scheduler
once a day.

The batch file looks like:

xcopy d:\dev e:\Backup\dev /E /Y /C /M /I
xcopy d:\C2DbClientBilling e:\Backup\C2DbClientBilling /E /Y /C /M /I
xcopy d:\Clients e:\Backup\Clients /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy
d:\COLBYCONSULTING e:\Backup\COLBYCONSULTING /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy
d:\ColbyConsultingWebNew e:\Backup\ColbyConsultingWebNew /E /Y /C /M /I
xcopy d:\NVFCNew e:\Backup\NVFCNew /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy d:\Projects
e:\Backup\Projects /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy "c:\dOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS"
"e:\Backup\documents and settings" /E /Y /C /M /I

As you can see, I am simply doing an XCopy from my D:\Dev to e:\Backup.
This copies the entire directory the first time.  The switches cause the
copy to only copy CHANGED files, thus the second and subsequent times
the xcopy is darned fast.  However if I create a new client directory in
my dev
(development) directory, it is automatically backed up.  In this case,
the
E: drive is a second physical drive in the same machine.  However there
is no reason why it couldn't be a mapped drive on a completely different
machine, or for that matter even a ftp up to a directory on the net if I
wanted to pay for disk storage out there.

I call this "backup on the cheap"

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules,
Mark
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:22 AM
To: '[dba-Tech]'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures


Arthur,

Just to be clear, are we talking about your personal computers, or
clients? Because, with today's prices on hard drive storage, why bother
with removable media?  Just put your images on another hard drive.  For
personal use, I would doubt that most people using removable media for
backups are using it as it was intended...off-site storage.  Unless you
are storing your backups off-site, another hard drive serves the same
purpose, is faster, and in the long run, a cost efficient alternative.
I just purchased 2 160GB disks to go along with my 2 80GB drives.  With
all the discounts and rebates each 7200 RPM, 160GB drive with 8MB cache
cost just $100 USD.  That seems like plenty of room for images;)


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:09 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures


My chief problem is that the hard disks are so big now (80GB) that I
need a DVD burner to put the backups on! It reminds of the bad old days
when I used FastBack and about 50 floppies :-) And something would
always go wrong at about disk 37.

Where do you put your ghosts?

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Porter, Mark
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:56 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures

Not really.  I do regular windows updates, and the AVG update is on
automatic for every 3 days.  I do backups and ghosts every once in a
while just incase, though.


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