[dba-Tech] W2K Setup & Admin Principles

Jon Tydda Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk
Mon Aug 2 08:10:00 CDT 2004


you can copy the shortcut for Outlook, it opens differently for each user,
that's not a problem. Although we do use Office 2k here, maybe it's
different, certainly for exchange...

2k is probably the best version of windows that I've used (Disclaimer: I
haven't really played with XP yet so don't know for sure), it's really
stable compared to the previous versions.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: 02 August 2004 13:41
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K Setup & Admin Principles


Yes I think I've seen software that does that too, but not any of the main
software we use here (Office 97, Outlook 2000, Norton AV, Zetafax) for sure.
As W2K was built on NT, and as NT had in-built support for multiple desktops
this still doesn't feel like the professional solution to me, but maybe it's
as good as W2K gets. And what about Outlook? Having installed it to Admin I
can't just copy the shortcut because I need each user to have a different
profile, store their PST or OST in different places etc. How do I do that
neatly? Is there anything in Group Policies (never been there so just
guessing) that addresses all this.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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Date: 02/08/04 11:24

>
> Yeah, I've seen some where it asks:
>
> Install for all users or current user (username)?
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
> Sent: 02 August 2004 12:13
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K Setup & Admin Principles
>
>
> Thanks Jon
> So are you saying that the way a piece of software installs (to current
user
> or all users) depends on the authors of that software? That there's
nothing
> I can do at installation time to affect that? Because Office 97 definitely
> installs only to the current user.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
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> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
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> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K Setup & Admin Principles
> Date: 02/08/04 11:06
>
> >
> > If you install something as the admin, you should be able to see and
use
> it
> > as all other users unless it specifies not to in the set-up, so yes,
> copying
> > the shortcut will work (usually). Normally the software will install
to
> the
> > &quot;all users&quot; part of documents and settings/start
menu, so you
> won't need to
> > do that.
> >
> > I don't know about Norton, except that I don't use it. I've never had
any
> > problem with McAfee and multiple users on the same box though.
> >
> > You can right click on the desktop, turn active desktop on and remove
all
> > icons from the screen, or you can do it via Active Directory (don't
know
> > where though, I imagine it's part of the security settings).
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
> > Sent: 02 August 2004 11:03
> > To: Dba Tech
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K Setup &amp; Admin Principles
> >
> >
> > This must be trivial for anyone with W2K admin experience, but I'm
coming
> to
> > it for first time so some help would be hugely appreciated.
> >
> > What we want to achieve is commonplace. A workstation with an admin
level
> > user and an ordinary (or power) user who can run software but not get
at
> > setup functionality. Simply put, what is the standard way of
achieving
> this?
> > Let's take our first software, Office 97. If I load it as Admin then
only
> > Admin can see it to run it. Is there something I can do to make it
load
> for
> > All Users? Or do I have to make my user an admin temporarily and load
it a
> > 2nd time for them? Surely not. Or do I just copy the shortcut to the
All
> > Users desktop? Will that really work? Doesn't sound the 'proper' way
to
> me.
> > There must be, I'm certain, a straightforward, simple and correct way
to
> > achieve this.
> >
> > Certain software throws up specific problems, again probably because
I'm
> > going about this wrong. Take Norton AV. I load that under Admin and
it
> runs
> > fine. I download the latest virus defs and run the downloaded EXE and
it
> > does the business. Now I logon as my user account, but if I then try
to
> > update the virus defs I'm told the subscription has expired. What's
that
> all
> > about?
> >
> > And what does one use to make things like 'My Computer' disappear
from a
> > user's desktop, or 'Control Panel' disappear from the start menu? To
> really
> > achieve a tightly stripped down UI in other words. Do you guys still
use
> > TweakUI for things like that, or is there an in-built mechanism? And
is
> > TweakUI ok in a multiple user setting anyway?
> >
> > Does anyone have the answers to this lot? And can anyone recommend
good
> > on-line resources where I can read up and improve my knowledge
(shouldn't
> be
> > difficult!) of this stuff. Because I've never been called upon before
to
> do
> > this kind of thing I've sort of muddled through when I've needed to
do
> > anything, but now I need to know more. Any help would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > --
> > Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
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