From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 6 12:23:05 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:23:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP Message-ID: <20040706122305.51764050.serbach@new.rr.com> Dear Group, I'm going to be starting a project to convert an Access 2000 application to a web-based front end with a SQL Server back end. I've told my client that reports on the web leave a lot to be desired though several HTML pages can be created to represent different sections on a report. My client wants to know why a report generated on the web can't be formatted with Adobe Acrobat. That is, when SQL Server returns the data and is ready to spew it out into the web page layout, what about stuffing the data into a PDF file instead? My gut reaction is that this isn't possible; or, if it is, it would require some pretty fancy programming. I tried to tell him that converting an Access report into a PDF document with one of the many PDF converters is a whole different animal from creating a PDF document on-the-fly on the web from a SQL query. Any thoughts? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 RUSH LIMBAUGH: After Pearl Harbor, we didn't do the Pearl Harbor committee investigation until after the war was over. KAREN HUGHES: And no one suggested that the president should apologize for the Japanese attack on our country. From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 6 13:56:16 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 19:56:16 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards Message-ID: <000701c4638a$eadee790$0300a8c0@upstairs> Hi all I took delivery of my new work pc today, a shiny new HP (bah!) with a P4 2.8 and 512mb RAM. The only problem it has is that it's got an onboard graphics card. I happen to have a spare one at home which I can take in and use (being the IT department does have some advantages) but I've never done the conversion from onboard to outboard graphics - how do I turn the onboard card off? I'm aware that it's probably different for different manufacturers, but I thought I'd ask, see if anyone had any thoughts... Jon From bheid at appdevgrp.com Tue Jul 6 14:06:53 2004 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:06:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA308F1535@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB66E@ADGSERVER> I would think that you would add the new video card, then go into the bios and disable the onboard graphics card. Should find the new one just fine. I did this a long time ago with an Asus mb I used to have. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:56 PM To: dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards Hi all I took delivery of my new work pc today, a shiny new HP (bah!) with a P4 2.8 and 512mb RAM. The only problem it has is that it's got an onboard graphics card. I happen to have a spare one at home which I can take in and use (being the IT department does have some advantages) but I've never done the conversion from onboard to outboard graphics - how do I turn the onboard card off? I'm aware that it's probably different for different manufacturers, but I thought I'd ask, see if anyone had any thoughts... Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pharold at proftesting.com Tue Jul 6 14:07:36 2004 From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:07:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards In-Reply-To: <000701c4638a$eadee790$0300a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <000001c4638c$823f6320$082da8c0@D58BT131> In Device Manager you should be able to disable the internal display adapter. Install the new(old) one and it should be detected and a driver installed (assuming it's compatible with either) if it's recognized by XP or 2000 whichever OS you have. You may need to download a current driver for the card. Perry Harold -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:56 PM To: dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards Hi all I took delivery of my new work pc today, a shiny new HP (bah!) with a P4 2.8 and 512mb RAM. The only problem it has is that it's got an onboard graphics card. I happen to have a spare one at home which I can take in and use (being the IT department does have some advantages) but I've never done the conversion from onboard to outboard graphics - how do I turn the onboard card off? I'm aware that it's probably different for different manufacturers, but I thought I'd ask, see if anyone had any thoughts... Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com Tue Jul 6 14:17:17 2004 From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:17:17 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP Message-ID: Although this sounds like an interesting task to complete, "my" gut reaction has to do with bandwidth and server response times. Is this an inter- or intra- net application? Will the majority of users necessarily need a downloadable .pdf for each and every query? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 1:23 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP Dear Group, I'm going to be starting a project to convert an Access 2000 application to a web-based front end with a SQL Server back end. I've told my client that reports on the web leave a lot to be desired though several HTML pages can be created to represent different sections on a report. My client wants to know why a report generated on the web can't be formatted with Adobe Acrobat. That is, when SQL Server returns the data and is ready to spew it out into the web page layout, what about stuffing the data into a PDF file instead? My gut reaction is that this isn't possible; or, if it is, it would require some pretty fancy programming. I tried to tell him that converting an Access report into a PDF document with one of the many PDF converters is a whole different animal from creating a PDF document on-the-fly on the web from a SQL query. Any thoughts? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 RUSH LIMBAUGH: After Pearl Harbor, we didn't do the Pearl Harbor committee investigation until after the war was over. KAREN HUGHES: And no one suggested that the president should apologize for the Japanese attack on our country. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 6 14:23:12 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:23:12 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards References: <000001c4638c$823f6320$082da8c0@D58BT131> Message-ID: <002401c4638e$add3c7e0$0300a8c0@upstairs> I thought of that - would it stop the 8mb of RAM being used by the onboard card or not? That's the real reason I'm replacing it - the "new" card has 64mb... Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perry Harold" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:07 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards In Device Manager you should be able to disable the internal display adapter. Install the new(old) one and it should be detected and a driver installed (assuming it's compatible with either) if it's recognized by XP or 2000 whichever OS you have. You may need to download a current driver for the card. Perry Harold -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:56 PM To: dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards Hi all I took delivery of my new work pc today, a shiny new HP (bah!) with a P4 2.8 and 512mb RAM. The only problem it has is that it's got an onboard graphics card. I happen to have a spare one at home which I can take in and use (being the IT department does have some advantages) but I've never done the conversion from onboard to outboard graphics - how do I turn the onboard card off? I'm aware that it's probably different for different manufacturers, but I thought I'd ask, see if anyone had any thoughts... Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jul 6 14:33:22 2004 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:33:22 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB66E@ADGSERVER> References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB66E@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <11048806500.20040706213322@cactus.dk> Hi Jon You just plug it in. It should "override" the onboard graphics. /gustav > I took delivery of my new work pc today, a shiny new HP (bah!) with a P4 2.8 > and 512mb RAM. The only problem it has is that it's got an onboard graphics > card. I happen to have a spare one at home which I can take in and use > (being the IT department does have some advantages) but I've never done the > conversion from onboard to outboard graphics - how do I turn the onboard > card off? I'm aware that it's probably different for different > manufacturers, but I thought I'd ask, see if anyone had any thoughts... > Jon From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 6 14:56:05 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:56:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040706145605.1166076607.serbach@new.rr.com> Mark, >> Is this an inter- or intra- net application? << INTERnet. I've recommended that the SQL Server capacity be rented so that his employees can access it when they're at customer sites. He only has a small staff; I'm his de facto IT department. >> Will the majority of users necessarily need a downloadable .pdf for each and every query? << No, just for the purposes of printing the main report: an ergonomic analysis of an industrial job position; that is, how much does an employee lift, how much bending and walking does he do, what physical skills are necessary, what ergonomic recommendations have been made to make the job safer, etc. There are also between 6 and 24 snapshots of the employee performing his various tasks. This all comes out beautifully in Access. The client is familiar with PDF files being downloaded from the web. I told him that I didn't know of a way to format an on-demand report into a PDF file that could be viewed immediately. I told him I'd ask around and try to get a definitive answer. Again, my suspicion is that it can't be done easily if at all. He's mystified that a report can't be formatted nicely with page breaks and headers and footers as in a word processing document or as in Access. I've checked out the Adobe web site and I find that Javascript in Acrobat allows one to "produce database-driven PDF files," but it looks like Acrobat Server is necessary. Besides I'd have to learn it from the ground up. So, do you have any feel for Acrobat under Javascript control? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "I think that the send button actually turns brains on." -- Bryan Carbonnell From pharold at proftesting.com Tue Jul 6 16:10:10 2004 From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:10:10 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards In-Reply-To: <002401c4638e$add3c7e0$0300a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <000201c4639d$a567e000$082da8c0@D58BT131> Don't know. Tough to say with HP & Compaq. They do some things sometimes that others which are more mainstream don't. I would think that the driver allocates the memory. When the driver is disabled then the memory would be open to other uses. Perry Harold -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 3:23 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards I thought of that - would it stop the 8mb of RAM being used by the onboard card or not? That's the real reason I'm replacing it - the "new" card has 64mb... Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perry Harold" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:07 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards In Device Manager you should be able to disable the internal display adapter. Install the new(old) one and it should be detected and a driver installed (assuming it's compatible with either) if it's recognized by XP or 2000 whichever OS you have. You may need to download a current driver for the card. Perry Harold -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:56 PM To: dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards Hi all I took delivery of my new work pc today, a shiny new HP (bah!) with a P4 2.8 and 512mb RAM. The only problem it has is that it's got an onboard graphics card. I happen to have a spare one at home which I can take in and use (being the IT department does have some advantages) but I've never done the conversion from onboard to outboard graphics - how do I turn the onboard card off? I'm aware that it's probably different for different manufacturers, but I thought I'd ask, see if anyone had any thoughts... Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Jul 6 17:14:07 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 15:14:07 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards In-Reply-To: <000001c4638c$823f6320$082da8c0@D58BT131> References: <000001c4638c$823f6320$082da8c0@D58BT131> Message-ID: <40EB242F.50101@verizon.net> Jon, Don't mess around with Device Manager, you can uninstall the video card from within windows to remove the driver (if not the driver goes unused). What you WILL want to do is after installing the new video card, you'll want to visit the bios and disable the onboard graphics card that way. This will assure you that the card will not be in play or detected again by windows. Next if you require a new video driver, your system will go into the standard vga mode (640x480) simply navigate to your video card manufacturer and d/l the appropriate video driver. Perry Harold wrote On 7/6/2004 12:07 PM: >In Device Manager you should be able to disable the internal display >adapter. Install the new(old) one and it should be detected and a driver >installed (assuming it's compatible with either) if it's recognized by XP or >2000 whichever OS you have. You may need to download a current driver for >the card. > >Perry Harold > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda >Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:56 PM >To: dba-tech >Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards > > >Hi all > >I took delivery of my new work pc today, a shiny new HP (bah!) with a P4 2.8 >and 512mb RAM. The only problem it has is that it's got an onboard graphics >card. I happen to have a spare one at home which I can take in and use >(being the IT department does have some advantages) but I've never done the >conversion from onboard to outboard graphics - how do I turn the onboard >card off? I'm aware that it's probably different for different >manufacturers, but I thought I'd ask, see if anyone had any thoughts... > > >Jon > > -- -Francisco From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 6 18:19:08 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 00:19:08 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards References: <000001c4638c$823f6320$082da8c0@D58BT131> <40EB242F.50101@verizon.net> Message-ID: <001501c463af$a3fbeec0$0300a8c0@upstairs> Thanks all I'll give it a go, see how it turns out. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francisco H Tapia" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards Jon, Don't mess around with Device Manager, you can uninstall the video card from within windows to remove the driver (if not the driver goes unused). What you WILL want to do is after installing the new video card, you'll want to visit the bios and disable the onboard graphics card that way. This will assure you that the card will not be in play or detected again by windows. Next if you require a new video driver, your system will go into the standard vga mode (640x480) simply navigate to your video card manufacturer and d/l the appropriate video driver. Perry Harold wrote On 7/6/2004 12:07 PM: >In Device Manager you should be able to disable the internal display >adapter. Install the new(old) one and it should be detected and a driver >installed (assuming it's compatible with either) if it's recognized by XP or >2000 whichever OS you have. You may need to download a current driver for >the card. > >Perry Harold > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda >Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:56 PM >To: dba-tech >Subject: [dba-Tech] Onboard graphics cards > > >Hi all > >I took delivery of my new work pc today, a shiny new HP (bah!) with a P4 2.8 >and 512mb RAM. The only problem it has is that it's got an onboard graphics >card. I happen to have a spare one at home which I can take in and use >(being the IT department does have some advantages) but I've never done the >conversion from onboard to outboard graphics - how do I turn the onboard >card off? I'm aware that it's probably different for different >manufacturers, but I thought I'd ask, see if anyone had any thoughts... > > >Jon > > -- -Francisco _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Tue Jul 6 18:40:46 2004 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 16:40:46 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP References: <20040706145605.1166076607.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <40EB387E.3030207@shaw.ca> Have a look at SQL Server 2000 Reporting Services Standard Edition. it outputs reports in PDF http://www.microsoft.com/sql/reporting/productinfo/default.asp Might be a bit of a learning curve. You need a full SQL license to run this, won't go with just msde. Steven W. Erbach wrote: >Mark, > > > >>>Is this an inter- or intra- net application? << >>> >>> > >INTERnet. I've recommended that the SQL Server capacity be rented so that his employees can access it when they're at customer sites. He only has a small staff; I'm his de facto IT department. > > > >>>Will the majority of users necessarily need a downloadable .pdf for each and every query? << >>> >>> > >No, just for the purposes of printing the main report: an ergonomic analysis of an industrial job position; that is, how much does an employee lift, how much bending and walking does he do, what physical skills are necessary, what ergonomic recommendations have been made to make the job safer, etc. There are also between 6 and 24 snapshots of the employee performing his various tasks. This all comes out beautifully in Access. The client is familiar with PDF files being downloaded from the web. I told him that I didn't know of a way to format an on-demand report into a PDF file that could be viewed immediately. I told him I'd ask around and try to get a definitive answer. Again, my suspicion is that it can't be done easily if at all. > >He's mystified that a report can't be formatted nicely with page breaks and headers and footers as in a word processing document or as in Access. I've checked out the Adobe web site and I find that Javascript in Acrobat allows one to "produce database-driven PDF files," but it looks like Acrobat Server is necessary. Besides I'd have to learn it from the ground up. > >So, do you have any feel for Acrobat under Javascript control? > >Regards, > >Steve Erbach >Scientific Marketing >Neenah, WI >920-969-0504 > >"I think that the send button actually turns brains on." -- Bryan Carbonnell > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net Tue Jul 6 22:33:58 2004 From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:33:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP In-Reply-To: <20040706122305.51764050.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: This isn't exactly what you're looking for but there was an article linked at asp.net for generation of .pdf files from HTML. Here's a link: http://www.codeproject.com/aspnet/HTML2PDF.asp -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:23 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP Dear Group, I'm going to be starting a project to convert an Access 2000 application to a web-based front end with a SQL Server back end. I've told my client that reports on the web leave a lot to be desired though several HTML pages can be created to represent different sections on a report. My client wants to know why a report generated on the web can't be formatted with Adobe Acrobat. That is, when SQL Server returns the data and is ready to spew it out into the web page layout, what about stuffing the data into a PDF file instead? My gut reaction is that this isn't possible; or, if it is, it would require some pretty fancy programming. I tried to tell him that converting an Access report into a PDF document with one of the many PDF converters is a whole different animal from creating a PDF document on-the-fly on the web from a SQL query. Any thoughts? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 RUSH LIMBAUGH: After Pearl Harbor, we didn't do the Pearl Harbor committee investigation until after the war was over. KAREN HUGHES: And no one suggested that the president should apologize for the Japanese attack on our country. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Wed Jul 7 02:46:03 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 02:46:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP In-Reply-To: References: <20040706122305.51764050.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040707024603.1351175471.serbach@new.rr.com> >> This isn't exactly what you're looking for but there was an article linked at asp.net for generation of .pdf files from HTML. << Yeah, I saw a couple other things like that, too. Trouble is that it doesn't produce Access-type formatting, it only produces HTML-like formatting. I went trolling for books on Acrobat at Barnes & Noble last night. Only one of them even mentioned SQL and that was in the realm of making Adobe Acrobat screen forms using the results of a query. Nothing about using SQL data to fill in an Acrobat document. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "If you can't say anything nice, run for President." - Argus Hamilton From serbach at new.rr.com Wed Jul 7 03:00:41 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 03:00:41 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP In-Reply-To: <40EB387E.3030207@shaw.ca> References: <20040706145605.1166076607.serbach@new.rr.com> <40EB387E.3030207@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <20040707030041.2097620391.serbach@new.rr.com> Marty, I checked out that web site. Thanks for posting it. Looks like it might do the trick except for the fact that it's overkill. Since my client will be renting SQL Server capability, the web host would have to install the Reporting Services. Then, as you pointed out, there's the learning curve... I'm going to tell my client that he can still get his nice-looking reports in Access. Constructing a PDF report would be possible but a very expensive option. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI "You must be an intellectual. No normal person would say a thing like that." - George Orwell From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jul 7 03:08:43 2004 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:08:43 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP In-Reply-To: <20040707024603.1351175471.serbach@new.rr.com> References: <20040706122305.51764050.serbach@new.rr.com> <20040707024603.1351175471.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <47262903.20040707100843@cactus.dk> Hi Steven It is not easy to adopt reporting engines "less than" Access. What people like your client forget (and why should they care) is that Access reports can contain code and perform a lot of tasks other than collecting and arranging some lines of data. If this is a low volume site, have you considered using Access as a server side printing engine? On the web-server or a separate server you run Access which somehow monitors the web site and prints reports on demand to a pdf-printer which saves the pdf-files in a directory on the web-server. It's not that easy as it sounds, I know, but the advantage is, that you use your current Access skills and license costs are zero if you use a runtime. /gustav From serbach at new.rr.com Wed Jul 7 12:11:25 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:11:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP In-Reply-To: <47262903.20040707100843@cactus.dk> References: <20040706122305.51764050.serbach@new.rr.com> <20040707024603.1351175471.serbach@new.rr.com> <47262903.20040707100843@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <20040707121125.2146539486.serbach@new.rr.com> Gustav, >> have you considered using Access as a server side printing engine? On the web-server or a separate server you run Access which somehow monitors the web site and prints reports on demand to a pdf-printer which saves the pdf-files in a directory on the web-server. << Very clever! The web host I've recommended to my client (CrystalTech) has Access support. I have a feeling that there'd be some maintenance issues I'd have to watch for. >> It's not that easy as it sounds, I know << I'll just bet. I appreciate the response. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society. The central liberal truth is that politics can change a culture and save it from itself." - Patrick Moynihan From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Thu Jul 8 18:15:47 2004 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:15:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP References: <20040706122305.51764050.serbach@new.rr.com> <20040707024603.1351175471.serbach@new.rr.com> <47262903.20040707100843@cactus.dk> <20040707121125.2146539486.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <40EDD5A3.5010903@shaw.ca> Here is a new article that came out yesterday MS Access for the Business Environment: "Upsize" MS Access Reports to MS Reporting Services. http://www.databasejournal.com/features/msaccess/article.php/3373661 It explains how you can import an Access Report from an mdb or adp into MS SQL Reporting services and save as an .rdl file. It also explains the features of MS Access Reports that require at least some intervention as part of conversion. This may only work with importing Access 2002 reports supposedly real soon now Crystal Reports will be added and you may need Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 to get this to work Steven W. Erbach wrote: >Gustav, > > > >>>have you considered using Access as a server side printing engine? On the web-server or a separate server you run Access which somehow monitors the web site and prints reports on demand to a pdf-printer which saves the pdf-files in a directory on the web-server. << >>> >>> > >Very clever! The web host I've recommended to my client (CrystalTech) has Access support. I have a feeling that there'd be some maintenance issues I'd have to watch for. > > > >>>It's not that easy as it sounds, I know << >>> >>> > >I'll just bet. I appreciate the response. > >Regards, > >Steve Erbach >Scientific Marketing >Neenah, WI >920-969-0504 > >"The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society. The central liberal truth is that politics can change a culture and save it from itself." - Patrick Moynihan > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From serbach at new.rr.com Fri Jul 9 08:09:19 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:09:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP In-Reply-To: <40EDD5A3.5010903@shaw.ca> References: <20040706122305.51764050.serbach@new.rr.com> <20040707024603.1351175471.serbach@new.rr.com> <47262903.20040707100843@cactus.dk> <20040707121125.2146539486.serbach@new.rr.com> <40EDD5A3.5010903@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <20040709080919.1755888469.serbach@new.rr.com> Marty, >> MS Access for the Business Environment: "Upsize" MS Access Reports to MS Reporting Services. << Whenever I see the term "Services" in anything related to computers I think "unfinished, manual, problematic." In this case we'd have to persuade the web host to install the software. Odds aren't good on that. Do you know of anyone actually using MS Reporting Services? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, 1961 From shamil at users.mns.ru Fri Jul 9 14:20:11 2004 From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:20:11 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP References: <20040706122305.51764050.serbach@new.rr.com><20040707024603.1351175471.serbach@new.rr.com><47262903.20040707100843@cactus.dk><20040707121125.2146539486.serbach@new.rr.com><40EDD5A3.5010903@shaw.ca> <20040709080919.1755888469.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <002c01c465e9$c2ce93c0$0201a8c0@PARIS> > Do you know of anyone actually using MS Reporting Services? Steve, I do use them in test mode - I did install Reporting Services on my development PC at work, I did play with them a little and I did find them great and very promising. And I did tune them to send me a sample report by e-mail every Thursday at 14:00 and they do send me this report regularily. Looks great! And installation was easy as ABC..... No, they don't look unfinished or something like that - and this is only one of the first versions! Services - this is what is able to start automatically when PC starts/reboots and what is able to work in automatic mode when properly tuned.... Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven W. Erbach" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP > Marty, > > >> MS Access for the Business Environment: "Upsize" MS Access Reports to MS Reporting Services. << > > Whenever I see the term "Services" in anything related to computers I think "unfinished, manual, problematic." In this case we'd have to persuade the web host to install the software. Odds aren't good on that. > > Do you know of anyone actually using MS Reporting Services? > > Regards, > > Steve Erbach > Scientific Marketing > Neenah, WI > 920-969-0504 > > "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, 1961 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Fri Jul 9 20:07:27 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:07:27 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PDF from ASP In-Reply-To: <002c01c465e9$c2ce93c0$0201a8c0@PARIS> References: <20040706122305.51764050.serbach@new.rr.com> <20040707024603.1351175471.serbach@new.rr.com> <47262903.20040707100843@cactus.dk> <20040707121125.2146539486.serbach@new.rr.com> <40EDD5A3.5010903@shaw.ca> <20040709080919.1755888469.serbach@new.rr.com> <002c01c465e9$c2ce93c0$0201a8c0@PARIS> Message-ID: <20040709200727.1959256465.serbach@new.rr.com> Shamil, Thanks for the extra insight on MS Reporting Services. My big issue is that it must be "tuned". Since the SQL Server capability will be rented from a web host I doubt that I'd be able to do such a thing...besides the fact that the web host would have to install this software and I doubt they'd do that unless my client went with a dedicated server. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "Being steadfast in defense of carefully considered convictions is a virtue. Being blankly incapable of distinguishing cherished hopes from disappointing facts, or of reassessing comforting doctrines in face of contrary evidence, is a crippling political vice." - George Will From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Jul 12 09:31:49 2004 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:31:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: TKO Notice: ***Urgent Safeharbor Department Notice*** Message-ID: <00d901c4681c$f7ef61d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Anyone know if this is legitimate? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software http://www.e-z-mrp.com ----- Original Message ----- From: aw-confirm at eBay.com To: RSMOLIN at san.rr.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 6:34 AM Subject: TKO Notice: ***Urgent Safeharbor Department Notice*** ***Urgent Safeharbor Department Notice*** eBay Fraud Mediation Request Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 You have recieved this email because you or someone had used your account to make fake bids at eBay. For security purposes, we are required to open an investigation into this matter. THE FRAUD ALERT ID CODE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE WILL BE ATTACHED IN OUR FRAUD MEDIATION REQUEST FORM, IN ORDER TO VERIFY YOUR EBAY ACCOUNT REGISTRATION INFORMATIONS. Fraud Alert ID CODE: 00937614 (Please save this Fraud Alert ID Code for your reference.) To help speed up this process, please access the following form to complete the verification of your eBay account registration informations: http://scgi.ebay.com/verify_id=ebay &fraud alert id code=00937614 . Please Note: If we do not receive the appropriate eBay account verification within 48 hours, then we will assume this eBay account is fraudulent and will be suspended. The purpose of this verification is to ensure that your eBay account has not been fraudulently used and to combat the fraud from our community. We appreciate your support and understanding, as we work together to keep eBay a safe place to trade. Thank you for your patience in this matter. Regards, Safeharbor Department (Trust and Safety Department) eBay Inc. Please do not reply to this e-mail as this is only a notification. Mail sent to this address cannot be answered. Copyright ? 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125. From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 12 09:47:30 2004 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:47:30 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: TKO Notice: ***Urgent Safeharbor Department Notice*** In-Reply-To: <6464268.1089642798522.JavaMail.root@sniper6.usinternet.com> Message-ID: <000001c4681f$28e752a0$de1811d8@danwaters> NO! eBay will never put a link into an unsolicited email. You can forward this to spoof at ebay.com, and they will then reply to let you know if it's legitimate or not. They also collect information from the email to see if they can find the sender. Dan Waters -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 9:32 AM To: ot list; dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: TKO Notice: ***Urgent Safeharbor Department Notice*** Anyone know if this is legitimate? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software http://www.e-z-mrp.com ----- Original Message ----- From: aw-confirm at eBay.com To: RSMOLIN at san.rr.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 6:34 AM Subject: TKO Notice: ***Urgent Safeharbor Department Notice*** ***Urgent Safeharbor Department Notice*** eBay Fraud Mediation Request Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 You have recieved this email because you or someone had used your account to make fake bids at eBay. For security purposes, we are required to open an investigation into this matter. THE FRAUD ALERT ID CODE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE WILL BE ATTACHED IN OUR FRAUD MEDIATION REQUEST FORM, IN ORDER TO VERIFY YOUR EBAY ACCOUNT REGISTRATION INFORMATIONS. Fraud Alert ID CODE: 00937614 (Please save this Fraud Alert ID Code for your reference.) To help speed up this process, please access the following form to complete the verification of your eBay account registration informations: http://scgi.ebay.com/verify_id=ebay &fraud alert id code=00937614 . Please Note: If we do not receive the appropriate eBay account verification within 48 hours, then we will assume this eBay account is fraudulent and will be suspended. The purpose of this verification is to ensure that your eBay account has not been fraudulently used and to combat the fraud from our community. We appreciate your support and understanding, as we work together to keep eBay a safe place to trade. Thank you for your patience in this matter. Regards, Safeharbor Department (Trust and Safety Department) eBay Inc. Please do not reply to this e-mail as this is only a notification. Mail sent to this address cannot be answered. Copyright C 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Mon Jul 12 16:53:06 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:53:06 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro Message-ID: <20040712165306.2080287775.serbach@new.rr.com> Dear Group, I've "discovered" empirically what seems to be one of the main differences between XP Home and Pro, and I'd like to know if I'm correct. I have a client who has a bunch of Windows XP Home PCs and wireless laptops that he wanted to network together. I asked him, at first, if he could upgrade them to Pro, but he was unwilling to do that. So I caved and set up disk sharing and printer sharing and hooked everything together with a LinkSys wireless router with a cable modem. All the workstations are part of the "Office" group. He was happy. A couple weeks ago this same client asked me to set up a similar network at his house: one desktop PC, a new laptop, and one of the existing laptops from the "Office" network. No sweat, really. Linksys router, cable modem, and Epson printer right next to the desktop (the kids' system) and the new wireless laptop fit right into the equation. I made sure that the laptop was a member of the "MSHOME" group, the group name that the desktop system had. However, I couldn't get the "Office" laptop to recognize the MSHOME group. I left it at that, not really having a clue as to what was wrong. Today I helped my client's wife, the owner of that new laptop I hooked up to the home network, get connected to the "Office" LAN. I couldn't get a connection at first. I could get on the internet all right, but the laptop didn't see the "Office" group. Then it dawned on me, maybe XP Home only recognizes one LAN group. So I re-assigned her laptop to be a member of the "Office" group, and voila! The network, she works! So, am I correct in assuming that Windows XP Home can only deal with one Group at a time in My Network Places? I noticed that right after I re-assigned this laptop's group to "Office" that Windows "saw" both groups...but later on after installing a couple pieces of software and a couple restarts, the "MSHOME" group no longer appeared in My Network Places. My hunch is that if I rename the Group at my client's home to "Office" that everything will be copacetic. Of course, the workstation list will differ depending on whether the laptops (my client's and his wife's) are, indeed, at the office or at home. Am I correct here? Sincerely, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 From KP at sdsonline.net Mon Jul 12 18:11:56 2004 From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:11:56 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Message-ID: <001301c46865$a14e8600$6501a8c0@user> After the demise of my monitor recently, I purchased a new HP Pavilion f1723, 17" flat LCD monitor. What I find is that at times, certain fonts are quite blurry (especially Times Roman and serif fonts - I hadn't noticed it in the shop and as most email and email newsletters use TR font, I'm finding it maddening.) Before I contact the seller, I wanted to ask the list whether anyone else has experienced this.... TIA Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 KP at SDSOnline.net From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jul 12 19:01:16 2004 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:01:16 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: TKO Notice: ***Urgent Safeharbor Department Notice*** In-Reply-To: <00d901c4681c$f7ef61d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <40F3B2EB.21268.206C183@lexacorp.com.pg> On 12 Jul 2004 at 7:31, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote: > Anyone know if this is legitimate? > Of course not. It's a classic example of a phishing scam. Go to the web site in question and they will ask you to enter your ebay login and password details. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 12 19:17:05 2004 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:17:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: TKO Notice: ***Urgent Safeharbor DepartmentNotice*** In-Reply-To: <13119010.1089677072607.JavaMail.root@sniper6.usinternet.com> Message-ID: <001301c4686e$ba741ec0$de1811d8@danwaters> Today I got my quarterly statement from eBay. Included was this message: ______________________________________________________________________ Security Center If you receive an email and are not sure whether it is from PayPal, go directly to the PayPal website. If we need information from you, we will request it after you've logged in to your account. PayPal will always address you by your first and last name, or by your business name in emails. Never click on a link in a suspicious email. Instead, forward it to spoof at paypal.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Waters -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 7:01 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fw: TKO Notice: ***Urgent Safeharbor DepartmentNotice*** On 12 Jul 2004 at 7:31, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote: > Anyone know if this is legitimate? > Of course not. It's a classic example of a phishing scam. Go to the web site in question and they will ask you to enter your ebay login and password details. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Mon Jul 12 20:31:28 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:31:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry In-Reply-To: <001301c46865$a14e8600$6501a8c0@user> References: <001301c46865$a14e8600$6501a8c0@user> Message-ID: <20040712203128.1288116129.serbach@new.rr.com> Kath, >> What I find is that at times, certain fonts are quite blurry (especially Times Roman and serif fonts... << Sounds like the "Display Properties" | "Effects" | "Smooth edges of screen fonts" box is checked. Take a look at that setting. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most competent people would rather do something other than work for the government..." - Jerry Pournelle From serbach at new.rr.com Mon Jul 12 20:42:43 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:42:43 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] ScanAlert Message-ID: <20040712204243.1096307299.serbach@new.rr.com> Dear Group, Today I was browsing through the buycheapsoftware.com site when I noticed a logo saying "Hacker Safe." Linking to the parent web site I found www.scanalert.com . The product they sell is supposed to protect credit card purchases better. Anybody heard of this? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society. The central liberal truth is that politics can change a culture and save it from itself." - Patrick Moynihan From KP at sdsonline.net Mon Jul 12 21:39:30 2004 From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:39:30 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry References: <001301c46865$a14e8600$6501a8c0@user> <20040712203128.1288116129.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <005101c46882$a0526c90$6501a8c0@user> I had never heard of that Steven- thanks. I have de-ticked that but still blurry...... ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven W. Erbach To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Kath, >> What I find is that at times, certain fonts are quite blurry (especially Times Roman and serif fonts... << Sounds like the "Display Properties" | "Effects" | "Smooth edges of screen fonts" box is checked. Take a look at that setting. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most competent people would rather do something other than work for the government..." - Jerry Pournelle _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Mon Jul 12 23:10:58 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:40:58 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro Message-ID: >From my experience the 'name' of the workgroup is only used for 'My Network Places'. You should still be able to communicate by IP and generally by machine name (depending on name resolution techniques) irrespective of what the workgroup 'name' is - that is, as long as you have them on the same subnet (they should all automatically get an IP in the same range by default). It is possible that two machines could get the same IP in rare cases... You can avoid this by assigning them each a different static IP on the same subnet if you wish. In a small network it's not a huge drawback that 'My Network Places' isn't used. Just as easy to create a few shortcuts on each machines desktop that point to your other networked machines as required... Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 7:23 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro Dear Group, I've "discovered" empirically what seems to be one of the main differences between XP Home and Pro, and I'd like to know if I'm correct. I have a client who has a bunch of Windows XP Home PCs and wireless laptops that he wanted to network together. I asked him, at first, if he could upgrade them to Pro, but he was unwilling to do that. So I caved and set up disk sharing and printer sharing and hooked everything together with a LinkSys wireless router with a cable modem. All the workstations are part of the "Office" group. He was happy. A couple weeks ago this same client asked me to set up a similar network at his house: one desktop PC, a new laptop, and one of the existing laptops from the "Office" network. No sweat, really. Linksys router, cable modem, and Epson printer right next to the desktop (the kids' system) and the new wireless laptop fit right into the equation. I made sure that the laptop was a member of the "MSHOME" group, the group name that the desktop system had. However, I couldn't get the "Office" laptop to recognize the MSHOME group. I left it at that, not really having a clue as to what was wrong. Today I helped my client's wife, the owner of that new laptop I hooked up to the home network, get connected to the "Office" LAN. I couldn't get a connection at first. I could get on the internet all right, but the laptop didn't see the "Office" group. Then it dawned on me, maybe XP Home only recognizes one LAN group. So I re-assigned her laptop to be a member of the "Office" group, and voila! The network, she works! So, am I correct in assuming that Windows XP Home can only deal with one Group at a time in My Network Places? I noticed that right after I re-assigned this laptop's group to "Office" that Windows "saw" both groups...but later on after installing a couple pieces of software and a couple restarts, the "MSHOME" group no longer appeared in My Network Places. My hunch is that if I rename the Group at my client's home to "Office" that everything will be copacetic. Of course, the workstation list will differ depending on whether the laptops (my client's and his wife's) are, indeed, at the office or at home. Am I correct here? Sincerely, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Tue Jul 13 01:52:59 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:22:59 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Message-ID: Whats the recommended resolution for the monitor? A number of the laptops are designed with a minimum resolution and once you go larger than that it becomes 'blurry'. As a test, try changing your resolution to 1280 * 1024 and see if it becomes clearer. Eg. My flat-panel here at work doesn't work too well at a larger resolution. Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 8:42 AM To: AccessD Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry After the demise of my monitor recently, I purchased a new HP Pavilion f1723, 17" flat LCD monitor. What I find is that at times, certain fonts are quite blurry (especially Times Roman and serif fonts - I hadn't noticed it in the shop and as most email and email newsletters use TR font, I'm finding it maddening.) Before I contact the seller, I wanted to ask the list whether anyone else has experienced this.... TIA Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 KP at SDSOnline.net _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jul 13 02:07:26 2004 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:07:26 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1352164121.20040713090726@cactus.dk> Hi Kath and Andrew I would say a TFT monitor doesn't work well at all at other screen resolutions than the one it is built for. /gustav > Date: 2004-07-13 08:52 > Whats the recommended resolution for the monitor? > A number of the laptops are designed with a minimum resolution and once you > go larger than that it becomes 'blurry'. > As a test, try changing your resolution to 1280 * 1024 and see if it becomes > clearer. > Eg. My flat-panel here at work doesn't work too well at a larger resolution. > Cheers, > Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 8:42 AM > To: AccessD Tech > Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry > After the demise of my monitor recently, I purchased a new HP Pavilion > f1723, 17" flat LCD monitor. > What I find is that at times, certain fonts are quite blurry (especially > Times Roman and serif fonts - I hadn't noticed it in the shop and as most > email and email newsletters use TR font, I'm finding it maddening.) > Before I contact the seller, I wanted to ask the list whether anyone else > has experienced this.... From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com Tue Jul 13 06:44:55 2004 From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:44:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] ScanAlert Message-ID: Perhaps I can learn something here...aside from the protection offered by the credit card companies, how much more protection can they offer? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 9:43 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] ScanAlert Dear Group, Today I was browsing through the buycheapsoftware.com site when I noticed a logo saying "Hacker Safe." Linking to the parent web site I found www.scanalert.com . The product they sell is supposed to protect credit card purchases better. Anybody heard of this? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society. The central liberal truth is that politics can change a culture and save it from itself." - Patrick Moynihan _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From KP at sdsonline.net Tue Jul 13 07:31:06 2004 From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:31:06 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry References: Message-ID: <003f01c468d5$45191150$6501a8c0@user> Thanks for the tip - the HP site does nominate 1280 * 1024 for this model and I had it on 1152 * 864- but changing it over has actually made it a little blurrier. It is at its worst when I am looking at black text on white background - I might try to find another driver or just take this beast back. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Haslett, Andrew To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Whats the recommended resolution for the monitor? A number of the laptops are designed with a minimum resolution and once you go larger than that it becomes 'blurry'. As a test, try changing your resolution to 1280 * 1024 and see if it becomes clearer. Eg. My flat-panel here at work doesn't work too well at a larger resolution. Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 8:42 AM To: AccessD Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry After the demise of my monitor recently, I purchased a new HP Pavilion f1723, 17" flat LCD monitor. What I find is that at times, certain fonts are quite blurry (especially Times Roman and serif fonts - I hadn't noticed it in the shop and as most email and email newsletters use TR font, I'm finding it maddening.) Before I contact the seller, I wanted to ask the list whether anyone else has experienced this.... TIA Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 KP at SDSOnline.net _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 13 07:46:19 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:46:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] ScanAlert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040713074619.223449795.serbach@new.rr.com> Mark, >> aside from the protection offered by the credit card companies, how much more protection can they offer? << They claim to offer shoppers protection from identity theft. Prevention, in other words: "We thoroughly audit every HACKER SAFE site using over 2,500 different security tests. These tests are based on hacker activity information collected every 15 minutes from hundreds of private and government sources worldwide. "When we find any holes that could allow hackers to steal your personal information, we notify the merchant with instructions on how to secure their site. As long as the merchant does so quickly, we certify the site as HACKER SAFE. ScanAlert controls the certification image, not the merchant. You will not see the certification if the site does not pass our security audits." "Nearly every Web site where hackers have stolen private information had an SSL certificate in place... SSL simply has nothing at all to do with Web site security or safety from hackers." P.J.Connoly, INFOWORLD "SSL is basically like providing security for the bank teller when the vault is wide open. People rely too heavily on SSL. It gives them a sense of comfort; it just doesn't give them security," Pete Lindstrom, research director, Spire Security, LLC. For on-line merchants they claim: "HACKER SAFE certification meets the full set of requirements for the FBI/SANS Top Twenty Internet Security Test (vendor list PDF). Our vulnerability scanning technology has also been tested and accredited to meet the requirements for both American Express' CID Data Security program, and MasterCard's Site Data Protection program." Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "The too open mind is an empty mind." - Douglas Kern From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 13 07:54:20 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:54:20 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040713075420.105174662.serbach@new.rr.com> Andrew, >> You should still be able to communicate by IP and generally by machine name (depending on name resolution techniques) irrespective of what the workgroup 'name' is - that is, as long as you have them on the same subnet (they should all automatically get an IP in the same range by default). << Interesting. I wonder, though, about the ability of a laptop that floats from one LAN to another to get comfie with that LAN's printer. The cable modem seems to work just fine without regard to the machine name or group name; it's the printing capability I'm concerned about most. There's one other issue: I've got an Access application at my client's office that uses Replication. I believe that Replication relies on the machine name, yes? >> It is possible that two machines could get the same IP in rare cases... ?You can avoid this by assigning them each a different static IP on the same subnet if you wish. << So, XP Home allows this? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "Being steadfast in defense of carefully considered convictions is a virtue. Being blankly incapable of distinguishing cherished hopes from disappointing facts, or of reassessing comforting doctrines in face of contrary evidence, is a crippling political vice." - George Will From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 13 07:59:39 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:59:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry In-Reply-To: <003f01c468d5$45191150$6501a8c0@user> References: <003f01c468d5$45191150$6501a8c0@user> Message-ID: <20040713075939.551939121.serbach@new.rr.com> Kath, >> the HP site does nominate 1280 * 1024 for this model and I had it on 1152 * 864 << On a laptop? Holy cow! I use 1152 x 864 on a 19" CRT...how big is your laptop screen? Just as an experiment you might want to take a look at this: http://www.grc.com/cleartype.htm Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "If you can't say anything nice, run for President." - Argus Hamilton From James at fcidms.com Tue Jul 13 07:58:33 2004 From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 08:58:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry In-Reply-To: <003f01c468d5$45191150$6501a8c0@user> Message-ID: <200407131257.IAA06050@jake.bcentralhost.com> You might also want to check the refresh rate. One of the drawbacks of flat panels is they are very particular about settings and generally only work well with one setting. Also, are you using Windows XP? XP has a built-in text sharpening feature, Cleartype, which seems to help with the flat panels. When I upgraded my computer from 2000 to XP I found text was noticeably sharper on my 17" monitor. James Barash -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Thanks for the tip - the HP site does nominate 1280 * 1024 for this model and I had it on 1152 * 864- but changing it over has actually made it a little blurrier. It is at its worst when I am looking at black text on white background - I might try to find another driver or just take this beast back. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Haslett, Andrew To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Whats the recommended resolution for the monitor? A number of the laptops are designed with a minimum resolution and once you go larger than that it becomes 'blurry'. As a test, try changing your resolution to 1280 * 1024 and see if it becomes clearer. Eg. My flat-panel here at work doesn't work too well at a larger resolution. Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 8:42 AM To: AccessD Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry After the demise of my monitor recently, I purchased a new HP Pavilion f1723, 17" flat LCD monitor. What I find is that at times, certain fonts are quite blurry (especially Times Roman and serif fonts - I hadn't noticed it in the shop and as most email and email newsletters use TR font, I'm finding it maddening.) Before I contact the seller, I wanted to ask the list whether anyone else has experienced this.... TIA Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 KP at SDSOnline.net _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pharold at proftesting.com Tue Jul 13 09:39:25 2004 From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:39:25 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry In-Reply-To: <003f01c468d5$45191150$6501a8c0@user> Message-ID: <002901c468e7$39072480$082da8c0@D58BT131> I second the reference to ClearType. I have Dells and in most instances it seemed to make some difference using the ClearType but I didn't have a blurred font to start with. Is it listed as the specific monitor with a specific driver for that model monitor or just as a plug and play? Making it specific as the model sometimes makes a difference. And of course it may have been defective from the first. Perry Harold -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Thanks for the tip - the HP site does nominate 1280 * 1024 for this model and I had it on 1152 * 864- but changing it over has actually made it a little blurrier. It is at its worst when I am looking at black text on white background - I might try to find another driver or just take this beast back. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Haslett, Andrew To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Whats the recommended resolution for the monitor? A number of the laptops are designed with a minimum resolution and once you go larger than that it becomes 'blurry'. As a test, try changing your resolution to 1280 * 1024 and see if it becomes clearer. Eg. My flat-panel here at work doesn't work too well at a larger resolution. Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 8:42 AM To: AccessD Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry After the demise of my monitor recently, I purchased a new HP Pavilion f1723, 17" flat LCD monitor. What I find is that at times, certain fonts are quite blurry (especially Times Roman and serif fonts - I hadn't noticed it in the shop and as most email and email newsletters use TR font, I'm finding it maddening.) Before I contact the seller, I wanted to ask the list whether anyone else has experienced this.... TIA Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 KP at SDSOnline.net _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com Tue Jul 13 10:03:42 2004 From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:03:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] ScanAlert Message-ID: I tried going to their site but it isn't loading at the moment, therefore I am probably missing something. I get the impression that this is more of a B2B service (protect your site, show our seal, get more customers)... Is that how you've interpreted it? It seems that at the customer level the most they could possibly offer is to reimburse you for purchases made at one of their member sites if in fact it can be proved that a hacker bypassed their security (have you seen that claim?). Yet my credit card company already offers that level of protection for fraudulent purchases. I'm still not seeing the added value of their "seal"... Now, on the other hand, if credit card companies start limiting their liability by only covering purchases made at member sites then the value of that seal starts to increase. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:46 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] ScanAlert Mark, >> aside from the protection offered by the credit card companies, how much more protection can they offer? << They claim to offer shoppers protection from identity theft. Prevention, in other words: "We thoroughly audit every HACKER SAFE site using over 2,500 different security tests. These tests are based on hacker activity information collected every 15 minutes from hundreds of private and government sources worldwide. "When we find any holes that could allow hackers to steal your personal information, we notify the merchant with instructions on how to secure their site. As long as the merchant does so quickly, we certify the site as HACKER SAFE. ScanAlert controls the certification image, not the merchant. You will not see the certification if the site does not pass our security audits." "Nearly every Web site where hackers have stolen private information had an SSL certificate in place... SSL simply has nothing at all to do with Web site security or safety from hackers." P.J.Connoly, INFOWORLD "SSL is basically like providing security for the bank teller when the vault is wide open. People rely too heavily on SSL. It gives them a sense of comfort; it just doesn't give them security," Pete Lindstrom, research director, Spire Security, LLC. For on-line merchants they claim: "HACKER SAFE certification meets the full set of requirements for the FBI/SANS Top Twenty Internet Security Test (vendor list PDF). Our vulnerability scanning technology has also been tested and accredited to meet the requirements for both American Express' CID Data Security program, and MasterCard's Site Data Protection program." Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "The too open mind is an empty mind." - Douglas Kern _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 13 10:34:32 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:34:32 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] ScanAlert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040713103432.534478024.serbach@new.rr.com> Mark, >> Now, on the other hand, if credit card companies start limiting their liability by only covering purchases made at member sites then the value of that seal starts to increase. << You have a point. It looks to me as if ScanAlert is trying to bulk up the concept of buying from a site that passes a load of security tests without actually offering a guarantee. May work, may not. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "Without men, civilization would last until the oil needed changing." - Fred Reed From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Tue Jul 13 18:09:39 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:39:39 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro Message-ID: Yeah I'm not sure about the printers... We have a few users here at work who take laptops home and connect to their home machines and haven't reported any issues, however I assume they'd all be connected locally to the laptop and not used over a network... Do you have the printer connected to a machine or a router / print server? As for replication - not sure. I'm trying to recall some scripts I used to dynamically connect and replicate over dial-up / WAN but I can't recall whether I specified IP address or not... Worth a try though... >> It is possible that two machines could get the same IP in rare cases... You can avoid this by assigning them each a different static IP on the same subnet if you wish. << >> So, XP Home allows this? << It doesn't know (nor does any operating system AFAIK)... As you're not (assumably) using a central point to distribute IP addresses (such as a DHCP server), then each individual machine gives itself a certain IP address (in a specified range) without knowing what the IP address of any other machines are. I can go into more detail on how IP addresses are assigned if you wish.. Cheers, A -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 10:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro Andrew, >> You should still be able to communicate by IP and generally by machine name (depending on name resolution techniques) irrespective of what the workgroup 'name' is - that is, as long as you have them on the same subnet (they should all automatically get an IP in the same range by default). << Interesting. I wonder, though, about the ability of a laptop that floats from one LAN to another to get comfie with that LAN's printer. The cable modem seems to work just fine without regard to the machine name or group name; it's the printing capability I'm concerned about most. There's one other issue: I've got an Access application at my client's office that uses Replication. I believe that Replication relies on the machine name, yes? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "Being steadfast in defense of carefully considered convictions is a virtue. Being blankly incapable of distinguishing cherished hopes from disappointing facts, or of reassessing comforting doctrines in face of contrary evidence, is a crippling political vice." - George Will _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. From KP at sdsonline.net Tue Jul 13 19:02:39 2004 From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:02:39 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry References: <003f01c468d5$45191150$6501a8c0@user> <20040713075939.551939121.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <00e101c46935$e286ba40$6501a8c0@user> Not a laptop - just normal 17" desktop LCD monitor. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven W. Erbach To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Kath, >> the HP site does nominate 1280 * 1024 for this model and I had it on 1152 * 864 << On a laptop? Holy cow! I use 1152 x 864 on a 19" CRT...how big is your laptop screen? Just as an experiment you might want to take a look at this: http://www.grc.com/cleartype.htm Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "If you can't say anything nice, run for President." - Argus Hamilton _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From KP at sdsonline.net Tue Jul 13 19:06:58 2004 From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:06:58 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry References: <200407131257.IAA06050@jake.bcentralhost.com> Message-ID: <00f901c46936$7b402b90$6501a8c0@user> Yes this is Windows XP Pro - but I didn't know about that feature. So it could be even worse than this!! It's funny - it looks like a resolution problem, but none of the available resolutions actually makes it clearer (only worse) I'm still chasing a driver - after that I'll take it back I think Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: James Barash To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:58 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry You might also want to check the refresh rate. One of the drawbacks of flat panels is they are very particular about settings and generally only work well with one setting. Also, are you using Windows XP? XP has a built-in text sharpening feature, Cleartype, which seems to help with the flat panels. When I upgraded my computer from 2000 to XP I found text was noticeably sharper on my 17" monitor. James Barash -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Thanks for the tip - the HP site does nominate 1280 * 1024 for this model and I had it on 1152 * 864- but changing it over has actually made it a little blurrier. It is at its worst when I am looking at black text on white background - I might try to find another driver or just take this beast back. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Haslett, Andrew To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry Whats the recommended resolution for the monitor? A number of the laptops are designed with a minimum resolution and once you go larger than that it becomes 'blurry'. As a test, try changing your resolution to 1280 * 1024 and see if it becomes clearer. Eg. My flat-panel here at work doesn't work too well at a larger resolution. Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 8:42 AM To: AccessD Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Monitor - blurry After the demise of my monitor recently, I purchased a new HP Pavilion f1723, 17" flat LCD monitor. What I find is that at times, certain fonts are quite blurry (especially Times Roman and serif fonts - I hadn't noticed it in the shop and as most email and email newsletters use TR font, I'm finding it maddening.) Before I contact the seller, I wanted to ask the list whether anyone else has experienced this.... TIA Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 KP at SDSOnline.net _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 13 22:18:00 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:18:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Pro - Users - was Windows XP Home vs Pro In-Reply-To: <20040713075420.105174662.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <001c01c46951$2b4b2930$0501a8c0@colbyws> This is a discussion I need to participate in! I just bought a laptop that came with XP Home! 8-( I am about to upgrade to XP Pro simply because a major client's network is a domain ad I can't logon with my laptop there. Having upgraded to XP Pro (not done yet) I intend to then simply use my laptop at the site instead of his machine to do dev on-site. They like the idea because it frees up a machine that they can give to someone else, plus it avoids the ever annoying "could you sit over there... No, cause I need a specific setup on my machine" issues. I have already changed machines 3 times, with all the setup for email, my libs, error handler wizard etc. PITA!!! I was talking with them though about getting my email there, using my username at their company. They use an email server (exchange server I think) and Outlook whereas I use pop mail from my web server and Outlook. Thus I need to connect to the Exchange server at the client, but to my Pop server everywhere else. His suggestion, which sounds appropriate is to create different users. I log in as a specific user (on my laptop) when at their site, and another user at home and elsewhere. This would allow me to set up their printers, outlook to attach to their exchange server, mapped drives, printers etc for that user, and a completely different set for home office. Does this sound correct? I am soooo ignorant about this stuff it is almost embarrassing. I have always just had a single user on my machines. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Tue Jul 13 22:54:19 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:24:19 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Pro - Users - was Windows XP Home vs Pro Message-ID: Hiya John. Separate users is the way to go however the 'type' of user is the key. Most common scenario (in my experience): When at business premises ------------------------------ * Laptop connected to network (DHCP - receives IP automatically) * Machine is a member of the domain (see network admin) * You log onto the DOMAIN using a DOMAIN user account (created by them on the domain) * DOMAIN user account is linked to an EXCHANGE mailbox to access those emails * You can still access web mail through browser, OR setup separate POP email retrieval through your email client (or switch profiles in Outlook for example) When at home ---------------- * Laptop connected to home network or standalone. (DHCP or static IP depending on your setup) * You log onto the LOCAL MACHINE using a LOCAL user account (created on that machine) * POP Emails can be accessed as usual That way you have 2 different users with different settings as required. The advantage in using a domain account when at the business premises is that it's easier to give you the necessary security and access permissions. If they're using roaming profiles you can also log onto any machine at the workplace and retain your settings if required. If they're not willing to give you a domain user account then there's not a great advantage in creating two separate local user accounts, although you can keep your settings separate I suppose. You'll still have a few minor authentication issues when logging in at work with a local user account (well - you should... If you don't then the network admin's probably not doing his job too well!!) Shouldn't have any issues when switching from home to work if using DHCP at both ('automatically assign IP address' in network card TCP/IP settings). This may alter depending on your home network set-up though... Hope this helps. Cheers, A -----Original Message----- From: jwcolby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2004 12:48 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Pro - Users - was Windows XP Home vs Pro This is a discussion I need to participate in! I just bought a laptop that came with XP Home! 8-( I am about to upgrade to XP Pro simply because a major client's network is a domain ad I can't logon with my laptop there. Having upgraded to XP Pro (not done yet) I intend to then simply use my laptop at the site instead of his machine to do dev on-site. They like the idea because it frees up a machine that they can give to someone else, plus it avoids the ever annoying "could you sit over there... No, cause I need a specific setup on my machine" issues. I have already changed machines 3 times, with all the setup for email, my libs, error handler wizard etc. PITA!!! I was talking with them though about getting my email there, using my username at their company. They use an email server (exchange server I think) and Outlook whereas I use pop mail from my web server and Outlook. Thus I need to connect to the Exchange server at the client, but to my Pop server everywhere else. His suggestion, which sounds appropriate is to create different users. I log in as a specific user (on my laptop) when at their site, and another user at home and elsewhere. This would allow me to set up their printers, outlook to attach to their exchange server, mapped drives, printers etc for that user, and a completely different set for home office. Does this sound correct? I am soooo ignorant about this stuff it is almost embarrassing. I have always just had a single user on my machines. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jul 13 23:56:04 2004 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:56:04 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Pro - Users - was Windows XP Home vs Pro In-Reply-To: <001c01c46951$2b4b2930$0501a8c0@colbyws> References: <20040713075420.105174662.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <40F54984.14564.52E669@lexacorp.com.pg> On 13 Jul 2004 at 23:18, jwcolby wrote: > > I was talking with them though about getting my email there, using my > username at their company. They use an email server (exchange server I > think) and Outlook whereas I use pop mail from my web server and Outlook. > Thus I need to connect to the Exchange server at the client, but to my Pop > server everywhere else. > > His suggestion, which sounds appropriate is to create different users. I > log in as a specific user (on my laptop) when at their site, and another > user at home and elsewhere. This would allow me to set up their printers, > outlook to attach to their exchange server, mapped drives, printers etc for > that user, and a completely different set for home office. > > Does this sound correct? I am soooo ignorant about this stuff it is almost > embarrassing. I have always just had a single user on my machines. > Yep, spot on. Just make sure that you change the Logon Domain as well as the Username on the logon screen when you switch between that site and elsewhere. Depending on how you normally connect to your ISP and whether or not the site uses DHCP, you may have minor issues with IP addressing in the initial setup, but nothing showstopping. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From marcus at tsstech.com Wed Jul 14 06:22:12 2004 From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:22:12 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Pro - Users - was Windows XP Home vs Pro Message-ID: John, Try the following software http://www.netswitcher.com/, it may be just what you are looking for. Scott Marcus TSS Technologies, Inc. marcus at tsstech.com (513) 772-7000 -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:18 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Pro - Users - was Windows XP Home vs Pro This is a discussion I need to participate in! I just bought a laptop that came with XP Home! 8-( I am about to upgrade to XP Pro simply because a major client's network is a domain ad I can't logon with my laptop there. Having upgraded to XP Pro (not done yet) I intend to then simply use my laptop at the site instead of his machine to do dev on-site. They like the idea because it frees up a machine that they can give to someone else, plus it avoids the ever annoying "could you sit over there... No, cause I need a specific setup on my machine" issues. I have already changed machines 3 times, with all the setup for email, my libs, error handler wizard etc. PITA!!! I was talking with them though about getting my email there, using my username at their company. They use an email server (exchange server I think) and Outlook whereas I use pop mail from my web server and Outlook. Thus I need to connect to the Exchange server at the client, but to my Pop server everywhere else. His suggestion, which sounds appropriate is to create different users. I log in as a specific user (on my laptop) when at their site, and another user at home and elsewhere. This would allow me to set up their printers, outlook to attach to their exchange server, mapped drives, printers etc for that user, and a completely different set for home office. Does this sound correct? I am soooo ignorant about this stuff it is almost embarrassing. I have always just had a single user on my machines. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Wed Jul 14 08:36:47 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:36:47 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040714083647.642386750.serbach@new.rr.com> Andrew, >> I can go into more detail on how IP addresses are assigned if you wish.. << I think Drew did something like that some time ago, but I believe that repetition from a fresh perspective helps me solidify my knowledge. If you're so inclined I wouldn't mind a refresher on IP addresses. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI "You must be an intellectual. No normal person would say a thing like that." - George Orwell From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Wed Jul 14 09:25:36 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:55:36 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro Message-ID: You'll generally find two options available under TCP/IP options of your network card: 1. 'Obtain IP Address Automatically' or 2. 'Use the following IP Address' When using the first option, the card sends out a 'broadcast' on its connected LAN to try and find a DHCP server, during startup. If it finds one and all goes well, it's given an IP address / subnet / gateway from the DHCP server according to the DHCP Server's settings (and optionally its DNS details - this option is underneath the IP settings in that dialog window). If it doesn't find one, it gives itself an IP address in the reserved range 169.254.x.x. So if two machines on a network are both set to 'Obtain IP Address Automatically' and there is no DHCP server, then they should still be able to speak to each other as they both retrieve an IP address in that range (subnet). Using the second option, you have to supply those details yourself (IP address / subnet etc) and ensure that any machines on your network that you want to speak to each other, are on the same subnet. (Machines on different subnets *can* speak to each other which is where the gateway comes in, however it's not overly common on home networks). Obviously the second option can be a little more work if you have a number of machines. Additionally, if you travel with a laptop then while at work you're likely to have to use DHCP, meaning you will need to change these settings whenever you bring your laptop home. Therefore DHCP is generally always preferred except when a static IP is especially required (such as for server's etc). It should function without many issues both at work and home if configured correctly. This article is quite long but offers some extra reading if you like: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=220874 Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2004 11:07 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro Andrew, >> I can go into more detail on how IP addresses are assigned if you wish.. << I think Drew did something like that some time ago, but I believe that repetition from a fresh perspective helps me solidify my knowledge. If you're so inclined I wouldn't mind a refresher on IP addresses. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI "You must be an intellectual. No normal person would say a thing like that." - George Orwell _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 14 20:25:55 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:25:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Pro - Users - was Windows XP Home vs Pro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c46a0a$acfb15d0$0501a8c0@colbyws> I forgot about netswitcher! I purchased it for my old laptop. I'll have to see if I can find it or my license. Thanks, John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Scott Marcus Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 7:22 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] XP Pro - Users - was Windows XP Home vs Pro John, Try the following software http://www.netswitcher.com/, it may be just what you are looking for. Scott Marcus TSS Technologies, Inc. marcus at tsstech.com (513) 772-7000 -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:18 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Pro - Users - was Windows XP Home vs Pro This is a discussion I need to participate in! I just bought a laptop that came with XP Home! 8-( I am about to upgrade to XP Pro simply because a major client's network is a domain ad I can't logon with my laptop there. Having upgraded to XP Pro (not done yet) I intend to then simply use my laptop at the site instead of his machine to do dev on-site. They like the idea because it frees up a machine that they can give to someone else, plus it avoids the ever annoying "could you sit over there... No, cause I need a specific setup on my machine" issues. I have already changed machines 3 times, with all the setup for email, my libs, error handler wizard etc. PITA!!! I was talking with them though about getting my email there, using my username at their company. They use an email server (exchange server I think) and Outlook whereas I use pop mail from my web server and Outlook. Thus I need to connect to the Exchange server at the client, but to my Pop server everywhere else. His suggestion, which sounds appropriate is to create different users. I log in as a specific user (on my laptop) when at their site, and another user at home and elsewhere. This would allow me to set up their printers, outlook to attach to their exchange server, mapped drives, printers etc for that user, and a completely different set for home office. Does this sound correct? I am soooo ignorant about this stuff it is almost embarrassing. I have always just had a single user on my machines. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Thu Jul 15 23:13:28 2004 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:13:28 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] How To Search In-Reply-To: <000a01c46a0a$acfb15d0$0501a8c0@colbyws> Message-ID: <016501c46aeb$3fb48330$6601a8c0@rock> I'm working on a screenplay, and it involves the police searching various residences, warehouses, etc. It strikes me that there is probably a course on how to search a building (house, apartment, warehouse, etc.) that police officers take. I've tried various combinations in google and come up dry. One thing that I remember from working on a previous screenplay, a tip submitted by a "consultant" on the script, is this: when you do a B&E (break and enter), locate the sock drawer first, because almost everyone stashes valuables in their socks. That's the kind of material I need to make this script work. Does anyone know if the police are taught such a course, "Search Techniques 101", etc. ? Without wanting to spill too many beans in public, I once knew a person who had an aquarium in his living room, equipped with a collapsible shelf. Should any unwanted intruders (i.e. police) arrive, he could push a button and said shelf would collapse, unleashing various chemistry into the aquarium and thereby destroying the contents. Fish included, but they weren't his priority. It strikes me, as an ignorant person on this subject, that there are a few basic ways to stash something (be it guns, coke, kiddie-porn, whatever) -- it's under something; it's over something; it's inside something; and it's outside something (i.e. the house). Does anyone know of a police-type course taught by search experts where optimized techniques are taught? I suspect this is a convergence of psychology and "geography", for want of a more narrow word. I really have no idea how the professionals might go about this. But consider some affluent alleged perp with say a 5-bedroom house, a triple-car garage and an acre around it -- and you have to search it... For guns, for coke, for Ecstasy, for kiddie-porn, for whatever.... How do you optimize this search? A) Brute force -- overturn everything systematically, and maybe take a year. B) Rule-based -- on advice from seasoned cops, it's likely to be in a heating register or above a ceiling tile, or in the sock drawer. C) Informant-based -- you don't go in until you know where to look. Any ideas, anyone? Are there such cop-courses as "Search Techniques 101"? Can anyone supply leads to sites that provide such info? Many TIAs, Arthur From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Jul 15 23:33:35 2004 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:33:35 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] How To Search References: <016501c46aeb$3fb48330$6601a8c0@rock> Message-ID: <024701c46aee$0f45cd50$6601a8c0@HAL9002> No idea. But you get the prize for the most unusual post to the tech list. I will forward to a friend of mine on the SDPD - works vice. See if he knows anything. Best, Rocky Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] How To Search > I'm working on a screenplay, and it involves the police searching > various residences, warehouses, etc. > > It strikes me that there is probably a course on how to search a > building (house, apartment, warehouse, etc.) that police officers take. > I've tried various combinations in google and come up dry. > > One thing that I remember from working on a previous screenplay, a tip > submitted by a "consultant" on the script, is this: when you do a B&E > (break and enter), locate the sock drawer first, because almost everyone > stashes valuables in their socks. > > That's the kind of material I need to make this script work. Does anyone > know if the police are taught such a course, "Search Techniques 101", > etc. ? > > Without wanting to spill too many beans in public, I once knew a person > who had an aquarium in his living room, equipped with a collapsible > shelf. Should any unwanted intruders (i.e. police) arrive, he could push > a button and said shelf would collapse, unleashing various chemistry > into the aquarium and thereby destroying the contents. Fish included, > but they weren't his priority. > > It strikes me, as an ignorant person on this subject, that there are a > few basic ways to stash something (be it guns, coke, kiddie-porn, > whatever) -- it's under something; it's over something; it's inside > something; and it's outside something (i.e. the house). > > Does anyone know of a police-type course taught by search experts where > optimized techniques are taught? I suspect this is a convergence of > psychology and "geography", for want of a more narrow word. I really > have no idea how the professionals might go about this. But consider > some affluent alleged perp with say a 5-bedroom house, a triple-car > garage and an acre around it -- and you have to search it... For guns, > for coke, for Ecstasy, for kiddie-porn, for whatever.... How do you > optimize this search? > > A) Brute force -- overturn everything systematically, and maybe take a > year. > B) Rule-based -- on advice from seasoned cops, it's likely to be in a > heating register or above a ceiling tile, or in the sock drawer. > C) Informant-based -- you don't go in until you know where to look. > > Any ideas, anyone? Are there such cop-courses as "Search Techniques > 101"? Can anyone supply leads to sites that provide such info? > > Many TIAs, > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Fri Jul 16 01:29:54 2004 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:29:54 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] How To Search In-Reply-To: <024701c46aee$0f45cd50$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <000601c46afe$4f157420$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25> ROTFL This post is so far OT it's off the radar. Love it, and will follow with fascination, but can't help. Unless..... friend of a friend. Will try that avenue. Meanwhile will go empty sock drawer, build collapsible shelf in toilet cistern and mourn your mate's dead fish. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software > Sent: 16 July 2004 05:34 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How To Search > > > No idea. But you get the prize for the most unusual post to > the tech list. I will forward to a friend of mine on the SDPD > - works vice. See if he knows anything. > > Best, > > Rocky > > > Rocky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:13 PM > Subject: [dba-Tech] How To Search > > > > I'm working on a screenplay, and it involves the police searching > > various residences, warehouses, etc. > > > > It strikes me that there is probably a course on how to search a > > building (house, apartment, warehouse, etc.) that police officers > > take. I've tried various combinations in google and come up dry. > > > > One thing that I remember from working on a previous > screenplay, a tip > > submitted by a "consultant" on the script, is this: when > you do a B&E > > (break and enter), locate the sock drawer first, because almost > > everyone stashes valuables in their socks. > > > > That's the kind of material I need to make this script work. Does > > anyone know if the police are taught such a course, "Search > Techniques > > 101", etc. ? > > > > Without wanting to spill too many beans in public, I once knew a > > person who had an aquarium in his living room, equipped with a > > collapsible shelf. Should any unwanted intruders (i.e. > police) arrive, > > he could push a button and said shelf would collapse, unleashing > > various chemistry into the aquarium and thereby destroying the > > contents. Fish included, but they weren't his priority. > > > > It strikes me, as an ignorant person on this subject, that > there are a > > few basic ways to stash something (be it guns, coke, kiddie-porn, > > whatever) -- it's under something; it's over something; it's inside > > something; and it's outside something (i.e. the house). > > > > Does anyone know of a police-type course taught by search experts > > where optimized techniques are taught? I suspect this is a > convergence > > of psychology and "geography", for want of a more narrow word. I > > really have no idea how the professionals might go about this. But > > consider some affluent alleged perp with say a 5-bedroom house, a > > triple-car garage and an acre around it -- and you have to search > > it... For guns, for coke, for Ecstasy, for kiddie-porn, for > > whatever.... How do you optimize this search? > > > > A) Brute force -- overturn everything systematically, and > maybe take a > > year. > > B) Rule-based -- on advice from seasoned cops, it's likely > to be in a > > heating register or above a ceiling tile, or in the sock drawer. > > C) Informant-based -- you don't go in until you know where to look. > > > > Any ideas, anyone? Are there such cop-courses as "Search Techniques > > 101"? Can anyone supply leads to sites that provide such info? > > > > Many TIAs, > > Arthur > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/d> ba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From James at fcidms.com Fri Jul 16 08:03:58 2004 From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:03:58 -0400 Subject: OT [dba-Tech] How To Search In-Reply-To: <016501c46aeb$3fb48330$6601a8c0@rock> Message-ID: <200407161303.JAA29839@bruiser.bcentralhost.com> I don't have any good suggestions but, since it's Friday, have you read "The Purloined Letter" by Edgar Allan Poe? Not really a discussion of search techniques but more about the philosophy of hiding and searching. Good luck with the screenplay. Are you writing it for a Movie or Television? James Barash -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:13 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] How To Search I'm working on a screenplay, and it involves the police searching various residences, warehouses, etc. It strikes me that there is probably a course on how to search a building (house, apartment, warehouse, etc.) that police officers take. I've tried various combinations in google and come up dry. One thing that I remember from working on a previous screenplay, a tip submitted by a "consultant" on the script, is this: when you do a B&E (break and enter), locate the sock drawer first, because almost everyone stashes valuables in their socks. That's the kind of material I need to make this script work. Does anyone know if the police are taught such a course, "Search Techniques 101", etc. ? Without wanting to spill too many beans in public, I once knew a person who had an aquarium in his living room, equipped with a collapsible shelf. Should any unwanted intruders (i.e. police) arrive, he could push a button and said shelf would collapse, unleashing various chemistry into the aquarium and thereby destroying the contents. Fish included, but they weren't his priority. It strikes me, as an ignorant person on this subject, that there are a few basic ways to stash something (be it guns, coke, kiddie-porn, whatever) -- it's under something; it's over something; it's inside something; and it's outside something (i.e. the house). Does anyone know of a police-type course taught by search experts where optimized techniques are taught? I suspect this is a convergence of psychology and "geography", for want of a more narrow word. I really have no idea how the professionals might go about this. But consider some affluent alleged perp with say a 5-bedroom house, a triple-car garage and an acre around it -- and you have to search it... For guns, for coke, for Ecstasy, for kiddie-porn, for whatever.... How do you optimize this search? A) Brute force -- overturn everything systematically, and maybe take a year. B) Rule-based -- on advice from seasoned cops, it's likely to be in a heating register or above a ceiling tile, or in the sock drawer. C) Informant-based -- you don't go in until you know where to look. Any ideas, anyone? Are there such cop-courses as "Search Techniques 101"? Can anyone supply leads to sites that provide such info? Many TIAs, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at hotmail.com Fri Jul 16 08:16:05 2004 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:16:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] How To Search Message-ID: Hi Arthur, Google on "Warrant Execution training" This one looks like the kind of thing you are looking for.... http://www.sttu.com/raids/default.html or a book http://www.all-surveillance.com/a-item_id-0939235048-search_type-AsinSearch-locale-us.html Also some other terms you could search on in combination with the Warrant Execution secure the premisis protective sweep Good luck with it! Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: "Arthur Fuller" >Reply-To: Discussion of Hardware and Software >issues >To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software >issues'" >Subject: [dba-Tech] How To Search >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:13:28 -0400 > >I'm working on a screenplay, and it involves the police searching >various residences, warehouses, etc. > >It strikes me that there is probably a course on how to search a >building (house, apartment, warehouse, etc.) that police officers take. >I've tried various combinations in google and come up dry. > >One thing that I remember from working on a previous screenplay, a tip >submitted by a "consultant" on the script, is this: when you do a B&E >(break and enter), locate the sock drawer first, because almost everyone >stashes valuables in their socks. > >That's the kind of material I need to make this script work. Does anyone >know if the police are taught such a course, "Search Techniques 101", >etc. ? > >Without wanting to spill too many beans in public, I once knew a person >who had an aquarium in his living room, equipped with a collapsible >shelf. Should any unwanted intruders (i.e. police) arrive, he could push >a button and said shelf would collapse, unleashing various chemistry >into the aquarium and thereby destroying the contents. Fish included, >but they weren't his priority. > >It strikes me, as an ignorant person on this subject, that there are a >few basic ways to stash something (be it guns, coke, kiddie-porn, >whatever) -- it's under something; it's over something; it's inside >something; and it's outside something (i.e. the house). > >Does anyone know of a police-type course taught by search experts where >optimized techniques are taught? I suspect this is a convergence of >psychology and "geography", for want of a more narrow word. I really >have no idea how the professionals might go about this. But consider >some affluent alleged perp with say a 5-bedroom house, a triple-car >garage and an acre around it -- and you have to search it... For guns, >for coke, for Ecstasy, for kiddie-porn, for whatever.... How do you >optimize this search? > >A) Brute force -- overturn everything systematically, and maybe take a >year. >B) Rule-based -- on advice from seasoned cops, it's likely to be in a >heating register or above a ceiling tile, or in the sock drawer. >C) Informant-based -- you don't go in until you know where to look. > >Any ideas, anyone? Are there such cop-courses as "Search Techniques >101"? Can anyone supply leads to sites that provide such info? > >Many TIAs, >Arthur > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Jul 16 12:34:30 2004 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:34:30 -0700 Subject: Fw: Fw: [dba-Tech] How To Search Message-ID: <00b401c46b5b$2699dbf0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Arthur: A lead. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: chevy314 at att.net To: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:53 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [dba-Tech] How To Search Rocky, The best search I would suggest for your friend is at www.post.ca.gov Go to the wensite and click on POST Directory. This gives the classes that all CA sworn officers must take and the contacts for each class. Hope this helps, if not let me know and I will get a training contact here. Joe Dalton From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Fri Jul 16 13:59:35 2004 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:59:35 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows XP Home vs Pro References: <20040712165306.2080287775.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <40F82597.5050503@shaw.ca> You might have a look at this shareware product NetSwitcher. It is useful if you are dragging a laptop around to various client sites and logging into their networks. There are higher priced commercial products. http://www.netswitcher.com/product_info.htm Steven W. Erbach wrote: >Dear Group, > >I've "discovered" empirically what seems to be one of the main differences between XP Home and Pro, and I'd like to know if I'm correct. > >I have a client who has a bunch of Windows XP Home PCs and wireless laptops that he wanted to network together. I asked him, at first, if he could upgrade them to Pro, but he was unwilling to do that. So I caved and set up disk sharing and printer sharing and hooked everything together with a LinkSys wireless router with a cable modem. All the workstations are part of the "Office" group. He was happy. > >A couple weeks ago this same client asked me to set up a similar network at his house: one desktop PC, a new laptop, and one of the existing laptops from the "Office" network. No sweat, really. Linksys router, cable modem, and Epson printer right next to the desktop (the kids' system) and the new wireless laptop fit right into the equation. I made sure that the laptop was a member of the "MSHOME" group, the group name that the desktop system had. However, I couldn't get the "Office" laptop to recognize the MSHOME group. I left it at that, not really having a clue as to what was wrong. > >Today I helped my client's wife, the owner of that new laptop I hooked up to the home network, get connected to the "Office" LAN. I couldn't get a connection at first. I could get on the internet all right, but the laptop didn't see the "Office" group. Then it dawned on me, maybe XP Home only recognizes one LAN group. So I re-assigned her laptop to be a member of the "Office" group, and voila! The network, she works! > >So, am I correct in assuming that Windows XP Home can only deal with one Group at a time in My Network Places? I noticed that right after I re-assigned this laptop's group to "Office" that Windows "saw" both groups...but later on after installing a couple pieces of software and a couple restarts, the "MSHOME" group no longer appeared in My Network Places. > >My hunch is that if I rename the Group at my client's home to "Office" that everything will be copacetic. Of course, the workstation list will differ depending on whether the laptops (my client's and his wife's) are, indeed, at the office or at home. > >Am I correct here? > >Sincerely, > >Steve Erbach >Scientific Marketing >Neenah, WI >920-969-0504 > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From artful at rogers.com Fri Jul 16 20:22:48 2004 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:22:48 -0400 Subject: Fw: [dba-Tech] How To Search In-Reply-To: <00b401c46b5b$2699dbf0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <005501c46b9c$9297d230$6601a8c0@rock> Thanks for the lead, Rocky. I'm checking it out as I write this. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:34 PM To: dba-tech Subject: Fw: Fw: [dba-Tech] How To Search Arthur: A lead. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: chevy314 at att.net To: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:53 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [dba-Tech] How To Search Rocky, The best search I would suggest for your friend is at www.post.ca.gov Go to the wensite and click on POST Directory. This gives the classes that all CA sworn officers must take and the contacts for each class. Hope this helps, if not let me know and I will get a training contact here. Joe Dalton _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Fri Jul 16 20:27:05 2004 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:27:05 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Disk Drive Lights on Taskbar In-Reply-To: <00b401c46b5b$2699dbf0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <005901c46b9d$2c1333f0$6601a8c0@rock> Years ago I had a little utility that emulated the lights on your disk drives, blinking them on the taskbar every time a disk was read or written to. I've been searching for it with no luck. Anyone know of something that does this? Arthur From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Jul 17 11:50:29 2004 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:50:29 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Disk Drive Lights on Taskbar In-Reply-To: <005901c46b9d$2c1333f0$6601a8c0@rock> References: <005901c46b9d$2c1333f0$6601a8c0@rock> Message-ID: <316292377.20040717185029@cactus.dk> Hi Arthur Could it have been DiskMon from SysInternals: http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/diskmon.shtml /gustav > Date: 2004-07-17 03:27 > Years ago I had a little utility that emulated the lights on your disk > drives, blinking them on the taskbar every time a disk was read or > written to. I've been searching for it with no luck. Anyone know of > something that does this? > Arthur From artful at rogers.com Sat Jul 17 13:19:33 2004 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 14:19:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Disk Drive Lights on Taskbar In-Reply-To: <316292377.20040717185029@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <001501c46c2a$9c171080$6601a8c0@rock> If it wasn't the one I was thinking of, it's close enough. IIRC, the one I had originally had one light for each hard disk, but I can live without that feature. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:50 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Disk Drive Lights on Taskbar Hi Arthur Could it have been DiskMon from SysInternals: http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/diskmon.shtml /gustav From serbach at new.rr.com Mon Jul 19 15:35:38 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:35:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET Message-ID: <20040719153538.496982133.serbach@new.rr.com> Dear Group, I just picked up a check covering the retainer for a decent-sized (at least compared to what I've gotten in the past two years) project: to convert an Access application to a web-based application. I've set a time frame of three months for its completion. Lot of learning to do. I bought four books already on ADO.NET, ASP.NET, VB.NET. And today on Ebay I found a copy of Visual Studio 2003 .NET Enterprise Developer Edition (whew! These names just get longer and longer...) for $295...and my client is willing to pay for it! I'm going to post a question on dba-Tech, too, but I thought I'd run this past you lot. Anyone doing ASP.NET here? Anyone using Visual Studio .NET in any flavor? I actually had my first dream about .NET last night already. Sheesh! I guess I'm primed to make the move seriously into web development. Any books on ASP/ADO.NET that you'd recommend? Web sites? This is a big re-tooling of skills for me. Thanks. Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 From marcus at tsstech.com Mon Jul 19 15:54:51 2004 From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:54:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET Message-ID: Steve, I'm learning ASP.Net as we speak... The book I'm using is: "Microsoft ASP.NET Programming with Microsoft Visual Basic .Net Step By Step" ISBN 0-7356-1934-4 This book is working for me. << I'm going to post a question on dba-Tech, too, but I thought I'd run this past you lot. This is dba-Tech... Scott Marcus TSS Technologies, Inc. marcus at tsstech.com (513) 772-7000 -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:36 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET Dear Group, I just picked up a check covering the retainer for a decent-sized (at least compared to what I've gotten in the past two years) project: to convert an Access application to a web-based application. I've set a time frame of three months for its completion. Lot of learning to do. I bought four books already on ADO.NET, ASP.NET, VB.NET. And today on Ebay I found a copy of Visual Studio 2003 .NET Enterprise Developer Edition (whew! These names just get longer and longer...) for $295...and my client is willing to pay for it! I'm going to post a question on dba-Tech, too, but I thought I'd run this past you lot. Anyone doing ASP.NET here? Anyone using Visual Studio .NET in any flavor? I actually had my first dream about .NET last night already. Sheesh! I guess I'm primed to make the move seriously into web development. Any books on ASP/ADO.NET that you'd recommend? Web sites? This is a big re-tooling of skills for me. Thanks. Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Mon Jul 19 16:19:13 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:19:13 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040719161913.1809878761.serbach@new.rr.com> Scott, >> This is dba-Tech... << Oops! I just didn't edit the message I sent to another group I correspond with. I have the Microsoft Press book "Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition" by Jim Buyens. I also purchased two Murach books on ASP.NET and ADO.NET, as well as the O'Reilly book "Programming ASP.NET". The only thing that has disappointed me about the Microsoft book so far is that all the examples use Access databases as back ends. Perhaps that's a good thing as it forced me to revise the code samples to use an on-line SQL Server database. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, 1961 From marcus at tsstech.com Mon Jul 19 16:24:40 2004 From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:24:40 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET Message-ID: Steve, < The only thing that has disappointed me about the Microsoft book so far is that all the examples use Access databases as back ends. The book I'm using uses MSDE instead of Access. Scott Marcus TSS Technologies, Inc. marcus at tsstech.com (513) 772-7000 -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:19 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] VS.NET Scott, >> This is dba-Tech... << Oops! I just didn't edit the message I sent to another group I correspond with. I have the Microsoft Press book "Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition" by Jim Buyens. I also purchased two Murach books on ASP.NET and ADO.NET, as well as the O'Reilly book "Programming ASP.NET". The only thing that has disappointed me about the Microsoft book so far is that all the examples use Access databases as back ends. Perhaps that's a good thing as it forced me to revise the code samples to use an on-line SQL Server database. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, 1961 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Mon Jul 19 18:05:46 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:35:46 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET Message-ID: Hi Steve, In a way, you'll find asp.net quite similar to Access program in that it offers 'event-based' programming similar to the code you create in VBA. Not many other server-side web technologies offer this (I don't know of any anyway), and it is able to maintain 'state' between pages (postbacks) automatically, again which is pretty unique. VB.Net is a step up from VBA, and there's a few new 'OO' principles to get hold of, however if you've had some experience previously with VB or VBA then it shouldn't be too difficult to pick up. I've found VS.Net to be a great IDE - heaps of features that you'll wonder how you ever did without before. Good luck! Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, 20 July 2004 6:06 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET Dear Group, I just picked up a check covering the retainer for a decent-sized (at least compared to what I've gotten in the past two years) project: to convert an Access application to a web-based application. I've set a time frame of three months for its completion. Lot of learning to do. I bought four books already on ADO.NET, ASP.NET, VB.NET. And today on Ebay I found a copy of Visual Studio 2003 .NET Enterprise Developer Edition (whew! These names just get longer and longer...) for $295...and my client is willing to pay for it! I'm going to post a question on dba-Tech, too, but I thought I'd run this past you lot. Anyone doing ASP.NET here? Anyone using Visual Studio .NET in any flavor? I actually had my first dream about .NET last night already. Sheesh! I guess I'm primed to make the move seriously into web development. Any books on ASP/ADO.NET that you'd recommend? Web sites? This is a big re-tooling of skills for me. Thanks. Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Mon Jul 19 23:52:00 2004 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:52:00 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET References: <20040719153538.496982133.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <40FCA4F0.8040203@shaw.ca> Try this wizard to get you started you just need the framework and IIS and wizard download or use testing site below. New Server Controls Provided by the ASP.NET Web Matrix from MS http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnaspp/html/ASPNet-NewSrvrCntrls-WebMatrix.asp download wizard from http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/ Free test site for web hosting asp.net with sql access http://europe.webmatrixhosting.net/ News http:/www.asp.net Steven W. Erbach wrote: >Dear Group, > >I just picked up a check covering the retainer for a decent-sized (at least compared to what I've gotten in the past two years) project: to convert an Access application to a web-based application. I've set a time frame of three months for its completion. Lot of learning to do. I bought four books already on ADO.NET, ASP.NET, VB.NET. > >And today on Ebay I found a copy of Visual Studio 2003 .NET Enterprise Developer Edition (whew! These names just get longer and longer...) for $295...and my client is willing to pay for it! > >I'm going to post a question on dba-Tech, too, but I thought I'd run this past you lot. Anyone doing ASP.NET here? Anyone using Visual Studio .NET in any flavor? I actually had my first dream about .NET last night already. Sheesh! I guess I'm primed to make the move seriously into web development. > >Any books on ASP/ADO.NET that you'd recommend? Web sites? This is a big re-tooling of skills for me. Thanks. > >Steve Erbach >Scientific Marketing >Neenah, WI >920-969-0504 > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jul 20 02:13:02 2004 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:13:02 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET In-Reply-To: <40FCA4F0.8040203@shaw.ca> References: <20040719153538.496982133.serbach@new.rr.com> <40FCA4F0.8040203@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1701842739.20040720091302@cactus.dk> Hi Steven If your time frame allows why not go for the upcoming version of Visual Studio? The Express betas are for download, and this version does include its own web server for local use so you don't need to fiddle with IIS. /gustav > Marty: > Date: 2004-07-20 06:52 > Try this wizard to get you started you just need the framework and IIS > and wizard download or use testing site below. > New Server Controls Provided by the ASP.NET Web Matrix from MS > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnaspp/html/ASPNet-NewSrvrCntrls-WebMatrix.asp > download wizard from > http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/ > Free test site for web hosting asp.net with sql access > http://europe.webmatrixhosting.net/ > News > http:/www.asp.net >>I just picked up a check covering the retainer for a decent-sized (at least compared to what I've gotten in the past two years) project: to convert an Access application to a web-based application. >>I've set a time frame of three months for its completion. Lot of learning to do. I bought four books already on ADO.NET, ASP.NET, VB.NET. >> >>And today on Ebay I found a copy of Visual Studio 2003 .NET Enterprise Developer Edition (whew! These names just get longer and longer...) for $295...and my client is willing to pay for it! >> >>I'm going to post a question on dba-Tech, too, but I thought I'd run this past you lot. Anyone doing ASP.NET here? Anyone using Visual Studio .NET in any flavor? I actually had my first dream about >>.NET last night already. Sheesh! I guess I'm primed to make the move seriously into web development. >> >>Any books on ASP/ADO.NET that you'd recommend? Web sites? This is a big re-tooling of skills for me. Thanks. >> >>Steve Erbach >>Scientific Marketing >>Neenah, WI >>920-969-0504 From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 20 07:03:13 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:03:13 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040720070313.1940501975.serbach@new.rr.com> Andrew, >> Not many other server-side web technologies offer this (I don't know of any anyway), and it is able to maintain 'state' between pages (postbacks) automatically, again which is pretty unique. << Interesting that you should mention that feature. Thank you. >> I've found VS.Net to be a great IDE - heaps of features that you'll wonder how you ever did without before. << I'm looking forward to it! Thanks again. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "I think that the send button actually turns brains on." -- Bryan Carbonnell From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 20 07:04:31 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:04:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET In-Reply-To: <40FCA4F0.8040203@shaw.ca> References: <20040719153538.496982133.serbach@new.rr.com> <40FCA4F0.8040203@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <20040720070431.475146323.serbach@new.rr.com> Marty, Ya know, I'd looked at Web Matrix some time ago. Not having any burning need to develop in .NET, I just sort of noted it and passed it by. Thanks for the reminder. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "Don't light a match 'til ya know which end of the dog is barkin'." - Dave Barry From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 20 07:08:05 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:08:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] VS.NET In-Reply-To: <1701842739.20040720091302@cactus.dk> References: <20040719153538.496982133.serbach@new.rr.com> <40FCA4F0.8040203@shaw.ca> <1701842739.20040720091302@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <20040720070805.1290652946.serbach@new.rr.com> Gustav, >> If your time frame allows why not go for the upcoming version of Visual Studio? << I think if my client knew I was using beta software to develop his web site he'd throw a conniption fit. Believe it or not, I was intending to using the 60-day evaluation copy of Visual Studio .NET until I'd built up enough capital to buy the full version for myself. I told him that and that helped me persuade him to buy the Ebay copy of VS Enterprise Developer. My time frame's only 90 days. I think I'll stick with VS 2003. Thanks. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 RUSH LIMBAUGH: After Pearl Harbor, we didn't do the Pearl Harbor committee investigation until after the war was over. KAREN HUGHES: And no one suggested that the president should apologize for the Japanese attack on our country. From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Jul 20 14:39:57 2004 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:39:57 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] DLL Search In-Reply-To: <20040720070805.1290652946.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <000501c46e91$56a2f550$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25> Anyone know a website to identify where a DLL comes from (and perhaps to download one). I've tried the MS DLL search and it's not one of theirs, and the sites I've tried don't recognise it. It's crsc.dll BTW in case anyone knows it. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk From shamil at users.mns.ru Tue Jul 20 15:15:15 2004 From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:15:15 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] DLL Search References: <000501c46e91$56a2f550$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25> Message-ID: <000701c46e96$493e83c0$0201a8c0@PARIS> Andy, 1. "crsc" could mean "Continuous Recording Speed Control" 2. Did you try to right-click on this .dll to have a look at its properties' Version tab, where you could probably find its company info? 3. I don't have crsc.dll on my system disk. Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Lacey" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] DLL Search > Anyone know a website to identify where a DLL comes from (and perhaps to > download one). I've tried the MS DLL search and it's not one of theirs, and > the sites I've tried don't recognise it. It's crsc.dll BTW in case anyone > knows it. > > -- Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Jul 20 16:05:16 2004 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:05:16 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] DLL Search In-Reply-To: <000701c46e96$493e83c0$0201a8c0@PARIS> Message-ID: <000101c46e9d$41d0f2b0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25> Thanks Shamil but the problem is the dll's missing on a machine so there's no file to right-click on. And not on any other m/c I've come across either. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Shamil Salakhetdinov > Sent: 20 July 2004 21:15 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] DLL Search > > > Andy, > > 1. "crsc" could mean "Continuous Recording Speed Control" > 2. Did you try to right-click on this .dll to have a look at > its properties' Version tab, where you could probably find > its company info? 3. I don't have crsc.dll on my system disk. > > Shamil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Lacey" > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:39 PM > Subject: [dba-Tech] DLL Search > > > > Anyone know a website to identify where a DLL comes from > (and perhaps > to > > download one). I've tried the MS DLL search and it's not one of > theirs, and > > the sites I've tried don't recognise it. It's crsc.dll BTW in case > anyone > > knows it. > > > > -- Andy Lacey > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/d> ba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 20 16:29:01 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:29:01 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Message-ID: <000f01c46ea0$9356f9b0$0300a8c0@upstairs> I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget of about ?250 ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card (preferably 256mb), a case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take standard sizes) for that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with optical and digital zoom. Anyone got any ideas? TIA Jon From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Tue Jul 20 16:36:58 2004 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:36:58 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras References: <000f01c46ea0$9356f9b0$0300a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <009a01c46ea1$b0baaaf0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> Jon If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this for you and Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for $40 while there and the camera are much cheaper. Martin PS Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not know as I could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think you can escape duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "dba-tech" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget of about ?250 ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card (preferably 256mb), a case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take standard sizes) for that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with optical and digital zoom. Anyone got any ideas? TIA Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 20 16:48:11 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:48:11 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras References: <000f01c46ea0$9356f9b0$0300a8c0@upstairs> <009a01c46ea1$b0baaaf0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> Message-ID: <002401c46ea3$40a86980$0300a8c0@upstairs> Bah, why didn't I think of that before? :-) So I should be looking on the US websites as well... hmm, doubled my workload, grumble, grumble :-) Thanks Martin Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Reid" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Jon If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this for you and Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for $40 while there and the camera are much cheaper. Martin PS Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not know as I could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think you can escape duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "dba-tech" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget of about ?250 ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card (preferably 256mb), a case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take standard sizes) for that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with optical and digital zoom. Anyone got any ideas? TIA Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Tue Jul 20 16:52:06 2004 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:52:06 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras References: <000f01c46ea0$9356f9b0$0300a8c0@upstairs><009a01c46ea1$b0baaaf0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> <002401c46ea3$40a86980$0300a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <00b801c46ea3$ce37e230$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> Company called Frys in San Diego- not sure of the web address but they where way cheaper than UK prices. Even if they dont deliver to the UK I am sure someone willlet you have it delivered in USA and posted to you in UK. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Bah, why didn't I think of that before? :-) So I should be looking on the US websites as well... hmm, doubled my workload, grumble, grumble :-) Thanks Martin Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Reid" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Jon If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this for you and Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for $40 while there and the camera are much cheaper. Martin PS Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not know as I could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think you can escape duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "dba-tech" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget of about ?250 ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card (preferably 256mb), a case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take standard sizes) for that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with optical and digital zoom. Anyone got any ideas? TIA Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Jul 20 17:10:52 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:10:52 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras In-Reply-To: <00b801c46ea3$ce37e230$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> References: <000f01c46ea0$9356f9b0$0300a8c0@upstairs><009a01c46ea1$b0baaaf0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> <002401c46ea3$40a86980$0300a8c0@upstairs> <00b801c46ea3$ce37e230$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> Message-ID: <40FD986C.4060807@verizon.net> www.outpost.com is their website Martin Reid wrote On 7/20/2004 2:52 PM: >Company called Frys in San Diego- not sure of the web address but they where >way cheaper than UK prices. Even if they dont deliver to the UK I am sure >someone willlet you have it delivered in USA and posted to you in UK. > >Martin > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jon Tydda" >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > >Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:48 PM >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > >Bah, why didn't I think of that before? :-) > >So I should be looking on the US websites as well... hmm, doubled my >workload, grumble, grumble :-) > >Thanks Martin > > >Jon >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Martin Reid" >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > >Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:36 PM >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > >Jon > >If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this for you and >Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for $40 while >there and the camera are much cheaper. > >Martin > >PS > >Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not know as I >could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think you can escape >duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jon Tydda" >To: "dba-tech" >Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM >Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > >I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget of about ?250 >($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card (preferably 256mb), a >case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take standard sizes) for >that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with optical and digital >zoom. > >Anyone got any ideas? > >TIA > > >Jon > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- -Francisco From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 20 17:16:27 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:16:27 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras References: <000f01c46ea0$9356f9b0$0300a8c0@upstairs><009a01c46ea1$b0baaaf0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID><002401c46ea3$40a86980$0300a8c0@upstairs> <00b801c46ea3$ce37e230$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> Message-ID: <004701c46ea7$339b8340$0300a8c0@upstairs> Great thanks Martin, I'll look 'em up now Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Reid" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Company called Frys in San Diego- not sure of the web address but they where way cheaper than UK prices. Even if they dont deliver to the UK I am sure someone willlet you have it delivered in USA and posted to you in UK. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Bah, why didn't I think of that before? :-) So I should be looking on the US websites as well... hmm, doubled my workload, grumble, grumble :-) Thanks Martin Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Reid" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Jon If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this for you and Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for $40 while there and the camera are much cheaper. Martin PS Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not know as I could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think you can escape duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "dba-tech" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget of about ?250 ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card (preferably 256mb), a case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take standard sizes) for that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with optical and digital zoom. Anyone got any ideas? TIA Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From MPorter at acsalaska.com Tue Jul 20 17:49:33 2004 From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:49:33 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4B3B@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com> I just bought a digital camera myself last month, and this site was invaluable in selecting the model; http://www.imaging-resource.com/ I selected the Canon A80 and absolutely love it. I had the card already, but the camera + 3 year warranty at Best Buy was about $500. I was originally in your same price range, but am glad I went up a few dollars. Here's a photo album of an airshow recently with pics taken exclusively with it so you can see how well it performs (pics have been reduced for the web); http://heymark.servebeer.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=ArcticThunder1004 Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jon Tydda > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:16 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Great thanks Martin, I'll look 'em up now > > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:52 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Company called Frys in San Diego- not sure of the web address > but they where > way cheaper than UK prices. Even if they dont deliver to the > UK I am sure > someone willlet you have it delivered in USA and posted to you in UK. > > Martin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Tydda" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Bah, why didn't I think of that before? :-) > > So I should be looking on the US websites as well... hmm, doubled my > workload, grumble, grumble :-) > > Thanks Martin > > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:36 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Jon > > If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this > for you and > Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for > $40 while > there and the camera are much cheaper. > > Martin > > PS > > Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not > know as I > could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think > you can escape > duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Tydda" > To: "dba-tech" > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget > of about ?250 > ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card > (preferably 256mb), a > case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take > standard sizes) for > that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with > optical and digital > zoom. > > Anyone got any ideas? > > TIA > > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > *********************************************************************************** 20/7/2004 This transmittal may contain confidential information intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error; any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply or by telephone (collect at 907-564-1000) and ask to speak with the message sender. In addition, please immediately delete this message and all attachments. Thank you. ACS From artful at rogers.com Tue Jul 20 18:03:52 2004 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:03:52 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras In-Reply-To: <00b801c46ea3$ce37e230$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> Message-ID: <007701c46ead$d36a67a0$6601a8c0@rock> I imagine that some of the newer cameras have a USB port instead of a floppy. Is that true? I don't yet have one of those Flash thingies that plug into a USB port, but my colleague Joe does, and WOW! Half the size of a lighter and it stores 200+MB! Neato. One of those in a digital cam and you could store thousands of pics without reloading. Incidentally (and since I don't yet own a digicam, forgive my ignorance), can you set one up on a tripod and automate time-lapse shots? Say I want a sequence of sunset shots every minute or so. Can I set it and go watch Law & Order, thence to return and have all my shots? Do any of the new cameras let you supply some sort of seed value so that it will name the pics starting at said seed? The only camera with which I have experience names the files starting at 1 every time you stick in a new floppy disk. Surely someone's come up with a better naming scheme since the first versions of digicams. Assuming I was about to shoot a bunch of pics of Shirley, surely I could input the filename prefix "Shirley" and have them numbered from there. Surely. Finally, what is available in terms of lenses for digicams? Can you get wide-angle, fisheye, telephoto, etc. as add-ons or what? And what about underwater casings? Can you scuba with a digicam and shoot fish? Please forgive my ignorance. If I had all the answers I wouldn't need to visit here :) Arthur From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 20 18:11:06 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:11:06 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras References: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4B3B@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com> Message-ID: <000c01c46eae$d633cb60$0300a8c0@upstairs> Hmm, some good shots on there... did you get a good bundle with the camera? Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Porter, Mark" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:49 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras I just bought a digital camera myself last month, and this site was invaluable in selecting the model; http://www.imaging-resource.com/ I selected the Canon A80 and absolutely love it. I had the card already, but the camera + 3 year warranty at Best Buy was about $500. I was originally in your same price range, but am glad I went up a few dollars. Here's a photo album of an airshow recently with pics taken exclusively with it so you can see how well it performs (pics have been reduced for the web); http://heymark.servebeer.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=ArcticThunder1004 Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jon Tydda > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:16 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Great thanks Martin, I'll look 'em up now > > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:52 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Company called Frys in San Diego- not sure of the web address > but they where > way cheaper than UK prices. Even if they dont deliver to the > UK I am sure > someone willlet you have it delivered in USA and posted to you in UK. > > Martin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Tydda" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Bah, why didn't I think of that before? :-) > > So I should be looking on the US websites as well... hmm, doubled my > workload, grumble, grumble :-) > > Thanks Martin > > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:36 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Jon > > If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this > for you and > Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for > $40 while > there and the camera are much cheaper. > > Martin > > PS > > Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not > know as I > could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think > you can escape > duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Tydda" > To: "dba-tech" > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget > of about ?250 > ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card > (preferably 256mb), a > case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take > standard sizes) for > that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with > optical and digital > zoom. > > Anyone got any ideas? > > TIA > > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > **************************************************************************** ******* 20/7/2004 This transmittal may contain confidential information intended solely for the addressee. 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ACS _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 20 18:14:36 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:14:36 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras References: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4B3B@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com> Message-ID: <001301c46eaf$5326f250$0300a8c0@upstairs> Actually, is this is here? http://www.digital-cameras.com/Digital_Compact_Cameras-3_sc/Canon-1/Canon_Powershot_A80_Digital_Camera-1628.html#item60 It's a very good price and is in the UK.. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Porter, Mark" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:49 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras I just bought a digital camera myself last month, and this site was invaluable in selecting the model; http://www.imaging-resource.com/ I selected the Canon A80 and absolutely love it. I had the card already, but the camera + 3 year warranty at Best Buy was about $500. I was originally in your same price range, but am glad I went up a few dollars. Here's a photo album of an airshow recently with pics taken exclusively with it so you can see how well it performs (pics have been reduced for the web); http://heymark.servebeer.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=ArcticThunder1004 Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jon Tydda > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:16 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Great thanks Martin, I'll look 'em up now > > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:52 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Company called Frys in San Diego- not sure of the web address > but they where > way cheaper than UK prices. Even if they dont deliver to the > UK I am sure > someone willlet you have it delivered in USA and posted to you in UK. > > Martin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Tydda" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Bah, why didn't I think of that before? :-) > > So I should be looking on the US websites as well... hmm, doubled my > workload, grumble, grumble :-) > > Thanks Martin > > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:36 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Jon > > If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this > for you and > Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for > $40 while > there and the camera are much cheaper. > > Martin > > PS > > Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not > know as I > could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think > you can escape > duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Tydda" > To: "dba-tech" > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget > of about ?250 > ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card > (preferably 256mb), a > case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take > standard sizes) for > that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with > optical and digital > zoom. > > Anyone got any ideas? > > TIA > > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > **************************************************************************** ******* 20/7/2004 This transmittal may contain confidential information intended solely for the addressee. 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This is what my photographer buddy uses in his, I'll probably follow suit; http://www.ripvan100.com/ Compare with the Canon A70, it's about $100 cheaper and has the same features (3M instead of 4M, and no rotating viewfinder). Mark. > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jon Tydda > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:11 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Hmm, some good shots on there... did you get a good bundle > with the camera? > > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Porter, Mark" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:49 PM > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > I just bought a digital camera myself last month, and this site was > invaluable in selecting the model; > > http://www.imaging-resource.com/ > > I selected the Canon A80 and absolutely love it. > > I had the card already, but the camera + 3 year warranty at > Best Buy was > about $500. I was originally in your same price range, but > am glad I went > up a few dollars. > > Here's a photo album of an airshow recently with pics taken > exclusively with > it so you can see how well it performs (pics have been > reduced for the web); > > > http://heymark.servebeer.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumN > ame=ArcticThunder1004 > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jon Tydda > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:16 PM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > > > > Great thanks Martin, I'll look 'em up now > > > > > > Jon > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Martin Reid" > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:52 PM > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > > > > Company called Frys in San Diego- not sure of the web address > > but they where > > way cheaper than UK prices. Even if they dont deliver to the > > UK I am sure > > someone willlet you have it delivered in USA and posted to > you in UK. > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jon Tydda" > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > > > > Bah, why didn't I think of that before? :-) > > > > So I should be looking on the US websites as well... hmm, doubled my > > workload, grumble, grumble :-) > > > > Thanks Martin > > > > > > Jon > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Martin Reid" > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > > > > Jon > > > > If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this > > for you and > > Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for > > $40 while > > there and the camera are much cheaper. > > > > Martin > > > > PS > > > > Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not > > know as I > > could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think > > you can escape > > duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jon Tydda" > > To: "dba-tech" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > > > > I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget > > of about ?250 > > ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card > > (preferably 256mb), a > > case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take > > standard sizes) for > > that money. 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ACS > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 20 21:15:58 2004 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:15:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] dynamic disks/volumes Message-ID: Can I convert a dynamic disk or dynamic volume back to basic NTFS without loosing the data? John B. From garykjos at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 22:24:30 2004 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:24:30 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Message-ID: Have a look here http://www.dpreview.com/ or here http://www.steves-digicams.com/ for some in depth reviews. Don't worry too much about DIGITAL ZOOM. Optical Zoom is what really matters. Don't accept less than 3X. The Cannon A80 you have been pointed to by another poster seems like a good camera. Good user ratings on the dpreview.com site for it. No in depth review there unfortunately. The steves-digicams.com site DOES have an in depth review and they like it quite alot. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: "Jon Tydda" >Reply-To: Discussion of Hardware and Software >issues >To: "dba-tech" >Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:29:01 +0100 > >I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget of about ?250 >($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card (preferably 256mb), >a >case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take standard sizes) for >that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with optical and digital >zoom. > >Anyone got any ideas? > >TIA > > >Jon > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 22:41:46 2004 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:41:46 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Message-ID: Hi Arther, Digital Cameras all generally use some kind of solid state memor cards nowadays. Essentially the same as the USB dongle thing it sounded like you were referring too. My camera uses a form of memory card called SD - for Secure Digital. It's the size of a postage stamp and the thickness of a quarter and it holds 128Mb. There are higher density cards in the same format I have been trying to buy a 256MB one but have had my orders cancelled a number of times after being on Backorder for a while. The 128Mb card I have I paid about $50 for I thik. Most cameras have USB connections on them in order to transfer the photos from the camera memory card to the computer. After the pics are safely on the ocmputer, you delete the pics from the memory card, If you want to. I have a card with a bunch of pics on it from a vacation that I have moved to my Palm PDA - it also uses the same format memory card as an add on memory thing and I can view the pics on the Palm. My newest camera consecutively numbers the pics and never resets so you won't have duplicate file names. My previous camera did what you wanted, it prefixed the filename with a folder name as part of the file transfer process to the computer. I generally put each "batch" of pics in a seperate folder within "My Pictures". Sometimes I get lazy though and put them into a "catch all" folder too though if I only have a few. Regarding lenses - there are several classes of digital cameras available. Most of the general use cameras have zoom lenses that alow you to go from a limited wide angle to a limited telephoto just by pushing a button. There are also replaceable lens camera available now too. Pretty much the same as an Single Lens Reflex film camera. These cameras can use the same lenses as the film cameras do. It's gonna cost you quite a bit to get into a digital SLR styl canera though, at least a thousand dollars probably. I susppect that there are underwater cases available for many of the digital cameras or even caneras designed to work underwater without an additional case. I am not familiar with them specifically. I'd have a look at these two websites for more info on digital cameras. Both have sample photos that really show the capabilities of these devises. http://www.dpreview.com/ http://www.steves-digicams.com/ Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: "Arthur Fuller" >Reply-To: Discussion of Hardware and Software >issues >To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software >issues'" >Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:03:52 -0400 > >I imagine that some of the newer cameras have a USB port instead of a >floppy. Is that true? I don't yet have one of those Flash thingies that >plug into a USB port, but my colleague Joe does, and WOW! Half the size >of a lighter and it stores 200+MB! Neato. One of those in a digital cam >and you could store thousands of pics without reloading. > >Incidentally (and since I don't yet own a digicam, forgive my >ignorance), can you set one up on a tripod and automate time-lapse >shots? Say I want a sequence of sunset shots every minute or so. Can I >set it and go watch Law & Order, thence to return and have all my shots? > >Do any of the new cameras let you supply some sort of seed value so that >it will name the pics starting at said seed? The only camera with which >I have experience names the files starting at 1 every time you stick in >a new floppy disk. Surely someone's come up with a better naming scheme >since the first versions of digicams. Assuming I was about to shoot a >bunch of pics of Shirley, surely I could input the filename prefix >"Shirley" and have them numbered from there. Surely. > >Finally, what is available in terms of lenses for digicams? Can you get >wide-angle, fisheye, telephoto, etc. as add-ons or what? And what about >underwater casings? Can you scuba with a digicam and shoot fish? > >Please forgive my ignorance. If I had all the answers I wouldn't need to >visit here :) > >Arthur > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 20 22:50:01 2004 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:50:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror Message-ID: Did MS add Mirroring for W2kPro? I can't find anywhere in unHelp or on MSDN that states that it supports Mirrored Drives. I know W2k Server does and I thought someone here once stated that W2K Pro does also. John B. From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 20 22:50:01 2004 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:50:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] dynamic disks/volumes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >From what I read I can't in Win2kPro. I was wondering if maybe Partition Magic or another utility can do it. I don't have the latest version and I can't seem to google up anything relevent. John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:16 PM To: _DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] dynamic disks/volumes Can I convert a dynamic disk or dynamic volume back to basic NTFS without loosing the data? John B. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jmhla at earthlink.net Tue Jul 20 23:13:34 2004 From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:13:34 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200407210413.i6L4DMQ07975@databaseadvisors.com> I took the MS 2272 Supporting and Installing XP PRO. I do not recall seeing it. I will look again. Illegal Disclaimer. I am taking the course again next month because there is so much I did not understand the first time. Joe Hecht jmhla at earthlink.net 28g -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:50 PM To: _DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror Did MS add Mirroring for W2kPro? I can't find anywhere in unHelp or on MSDN that states that it supports Mirrored Drives. I know W2k Server does and I thought someone here once stated that W2K Pro does also. John B. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Tue Jul 20 23:23:20 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:53:20 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011E47@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> First search result (google is your friend) http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=windows+2000+professional+m irror+disk&btnG=Search&meta= -----Original Message----- From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2004 1:20 PM To: _DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror Did MS add Mirroring for W2kPro? I can't find anywhere in unHelp or on MSDN that states that it supports Mirrored Drives. I know W2k Server does and I thought someone here once stated that W2K Pro does also. John B. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Tue Jul 20 23:24:41 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:54:41 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] dynamic disks/volumes Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011E48@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> 3rd and 4th result http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=convert+dynamic+disk+lose+d ata&meta= -----Original Message----- From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2004 11:46 AM To: _DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] dynamic disks/volumes Can I convert a dynamic disk or dynamic volume back to basic NTFS without loosing the data? 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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net Tue Jul 20 23:38:07 2004 From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:38:07 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I read an article somewhere about doing software RAID by taking some files from Win 2000 Server and loading them to Win 2000 Pro. IDE RAID controllers are cheap (under $40) and easy to install. Or you could switch to a couple of WD 10000 RPM drives, a SATA RAID controller and put a little UUUMPH in the old machine. Also, they are very quiet drives. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:50 PM To: _DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror Did MS add Mirroring for W2kPro? I can't find anywhere in unHelp or on MSDN that states that it supports Mirrored Drives. I know W2k Server does and I thought someone here once stated that W2K Pro does also. John B. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Jul 21 01:55:48 2004 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:55:48 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c46eef$c14489b0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25> Couple of UK sites you may not know: http://www.internetcamerasdirect.co.uk http://www.camerasdirect.co.uk/welcome.asp And reviews of cameras at http://www.reviewcentre.com (see Cameras tab) I bought extra memory card from Amazon - cheaper than most other (UK) places. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Wed Jul 21 03:47:38 2004 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:47:38 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA63ADE0@ALCUXB> Thanks Andy, wonder what I'll be doing all day :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: 21 July 2004 07:56 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Couple of UK sites you may not know: http://www.internetcamerasdirect.co.uk http://www.camerasdirect.co.uk/welcome.asp And reviews of cameras at http://www.reviewcentre.com (see Cameras tab) I bought extra memory card from Amazon - cheaper than most other (UK) places. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Wed Jul 21 04:10:57 2004 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:10:57 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA63ADE3@ALCUXB> Right, I did it... Canon Powershot A80 plus 256mb Card, case and battery charger for ?268 including VAT and delivery. All from www.Digital-cameras.com, and it'll be here tomorrow :-) Bargain! Jon -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: 21 July 2004 07:56 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Couple of UK sites you may not know: http://www.internetcamerasdirect.co.uk http://www.camerasdirect.co.uk/welcome.asp And reviews of cameras at http://www.reviewcentre.com (see Cameras tab) I bought extra memory card from Amazon - cheaper than most other (UK) places. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Jul 21 05:15:19 2004 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:15:19 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Message-ID: <20040721101517.202602730DC@smtp.nildram.co.uk> There that wasn't so bad. Did you get a special deal on the 256mb card? It's showing as ?40 extra on the site. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Date: 21/07/04 09:12 > > Right, I did it... Canon Powershot A80 plus 256mb Card, case and battery > charger for ?268 including VAT and delivery. All from > www.Digital-cameras.com, and it'll be here tomorrow :-) > > Bargain! > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] > Sent: 21 July 2004 07:56 > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Couple of UK sites you may not know: > > http://www.internetcamerasdirect.co.uk > > http://www.camerasdirect.co.uk/welcome.asp > > And reviews of cameras at > > http://www.reviewcentre.com (see Cameras tab) > > I bought extra memory card from Amazon - cheaper than most other (UK) > places. > > -- Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally > privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject > to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk > ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. > Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. > Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Wed Jul 21 05:26:21 2004 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:26:21 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA63ADE6@ALCUXB> That is the special deal - it's normally ?50 or so. I have found all the bits cheaper, but I wouldn't get them tomorrow if I ordered them seperately, and I'm going away for the weekend on Friday morning :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: 21 July 2004 11:15 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras There that wasn't so bad. Did you get a special deal on the 256mb card? It's showing as ?40 extra on the site. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Date: 21/07/04 09:12 > > Right, I did it... Canon Powershot A80 plus 256mb Card, case and battery > charger for ?268 including VAT and delivery. All from > www.Digital-cameras.com, and it'll be here tomorrow :-) > > Bargain! > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] > Sent: 21 July 2004 07:56 > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Couple of UK sites you may not know: > > http://www.internetcamerasdirect.co.uk > > http://www.camerasdirect.co.uk/welcome.asp > > And reviews of cameras at > > http://www.reviewcentre.com (see Cameras tab) > > I bought extra memory card from Amazon - cheaper than most other (UK) > places. > > -- Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally > privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject > to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk > ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. > Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. > Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From garykjos at hotmail.com Wed Jul 21 07:33:58 2004 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:33:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras Message-ID: Great! You'll be happy with it. Now I'll be expecting to see some pictures in my e-mail in-box ;-) Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Jon Tydda >Reply-To: Discussion of Hardware and Software >issues >To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software >issues'" >Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras >Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:10:57 +0100 > >Right, I did it... Canon Powershot A80 plus 256mb Card, case and battery >charger for ?268 including VAT and delivery. All from >www.Digital-cameras.com, and it'll be here tomorrow :-) > >Bargain! > > >Jon > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] >Sent: 21 July 2004 07:56 >To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > >Couple of UK sites you may not know: > >http://www.internetcamerasdirect.co.uk > >http://www.camerasdirect.co.uk/welcome.asp > >And reviews of cameras at > >http://www.reviewcentre.com (see Cameras tab) > >I bought extra memory card from Amazon - cheaper than most other (UK) >places. > >-- Andy Lacey >http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally >privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject >to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk >ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. >Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. >Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Jul 21 07:53:17 2004 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:53:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] dynamic disks/volumes In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011E48@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> Message-ID: Andrew, Thanks, neither is what I needed but I'm curious as to why you seached google using "convert dynamic disk lose d"? John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Haslett, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:25 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] dynamic disks/volumes 3rd and 4th result http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=convert+dynamic+disk+lose+d ata&meta= -----Original Message----- From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2004 11:46 AM To: _DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] dynamic disks/volumes Can I convert a dynamic disk or dynamic volume back to basic NTFS without loosing the data? 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Now I'll be expecting to see some pictures in my e-mail in-box ;-) Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Jon Tydda >Reply-To: Discussion of Hardware and Software >issues >To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software >issues'" >Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras >Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:10:57 +0100 > >Right, I did it... Canon Powershot A80 plus 256mb Card, case and battery >charger for ?268 including VAT and delivery. All from >www.Digital-cameras.com, and it'll be here tomorrow :-) > >Bargain! > > >Jon > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] >Sent: 21 July 2004 07:56 >To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > >Couple of UK sites you may not know: > >http://www.internetcamerasdirect.co.uk > >http://www.camerasdirect.co.uk/welcome.asp > >And reviews of cameras at > >http://www.reviewcentre.com (see Cameras tab) > >I bought extra memory card from Amazon - cheaper than most other (UK) >places. > >-- Andy Lacey >http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally >privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject >to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk >ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. >Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. >Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From john at winhaven.net Wed Jul 21 08:40:39 2004 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:40:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In the desktop publishing/ prepress world hardware is the mirroring I would do. There, every little bit of speed helps! I stick with WD drives in general. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of JMoss Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:38 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror I read an article somewhere about doing software RAID by taking some files from Win 2000 Server and loading them to Win 2000 Pro. IDE RAID controllers are cheap (under $40) and easy to install. Or you could switch to a couple of WD 10000 RPM drives, a SATA RAID controller and put a little UUUMPH in the old machine. Also, they are very quiet drives. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:50 PM To: _DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror Did MS add Mirroring for W2kPro? I can't find anywhere in unHelp or on MSDN that states that it supports Mirrored Drives. I know W2k Server does and I thought someone here once stated that W2K Pro does also. John B. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Jul 21 08:40:40 2004 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:40:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror In-Reply-To: <200407210413.i6L4DMQ07975@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: Please let me know if you learn some workaround trick to do this! John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:14 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror I took the MS 2272 Supporting and Installing XP PRO. I do not recall seeing it. I will look again. Illegal Disclaimer. I am taking the course again next month because there is so much I did not understand the first time. Joe Hecht jmhla at earthlink.net 28g -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:50 PM To: _DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] W2kPro Mirror Did MS add Mirroring for W2kPro? I can't find anywhere in unHelp or on MSDN that states that it supports Mirrored Drives. I know W2k Server does and I thought someone here once stated that W2K Pro does also. John B. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jmhla at earthlink.net Wed Jul 21 10:52:14 2004 From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:52:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras In-Reply-To: <000f01c46ea0$9356f9b0$0300a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <200407211552.i6LFqAQ26111@databaseadvisors.com> I have been looking at the Kodak 7430. Joe Hecht jmhla at earthlink.net 28g -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:29 PM To: dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget of about ?250 ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card (preferably 256mb), a case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take standard sizes) for that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with optical and digital zoom. Anyone got any ideas? TIA Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de Wed Jul 21 11:36:08 2004 From: Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:36:08 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras References: <000f01c46ea0$9356f9b0$0300a8c0@upstairs><009a01c46ea1$b0baaaf0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID> <002401c46ea3$40a86980$0300a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <00c801c46f40$d38dc450$0300a8c0@S856> Jon, before you order something in US check with your customs office what you have to pay in terms of customs and tax. here in Germany it is quite a bit and eats up the difference. but maybe you can have someone handcarry it at the next trip? Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > Bah, why didn't I think of that before? :-) > > So I should be looking on the US websites as well... hmm, doubled my > workload, grumble, grumble :-) > > Thanks Martin > > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:36 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > Jon > > If you can get someone in the USA from the list to get this for you and > Fedex it over. Much Much cheaper. I got a 256 Memory card for $40 while > there and the camera are much cheaper. > > Martin > > PS > > Of course you MAY have to pay import duty etc. Pity I had not know as I > could have got it for you when I was over last week. I think you can escape > duty etc if its classed as a gift!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Tydda" > To: "dba-tech" > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:29 PM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Digital Cameras > > > I'm in the market for a Digital Camera... I've got a budget of about ?250 > ($400?) and I want to get a good camera, a memory card (preferably 256mb), a > case and maybe a spare battery pack (if it doesn't take standard sizes) for > that money. Ideally it'll be at least 4 megapixel, with optical and digital > zoom. > > Anyone got any ideas? > > TIA > > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at users.mns.ru Wed Jul 21 14:35:39 2004 From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:35:39 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: My Swiss colleague is flying to the States this Saturday. He is looking for contact... Message-ID: <004501c46f59$e97332f0$0201a8c0@PARIS> I'm sorry for off-topic. My Swiss colleague is flying to the States this Saturday. He is looking for contact in Washington DC area to become his partner/representative for his software. This is: Business: Event Marketing, Event Planning, Event Controlling Technology: VB6, COM, 4tier, SQL2000, ActiveX etc. If anybody are interested please contact him Bernhard.Aggeler at AAAEventSolutions.com Shamil -- e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s From jon at tydda.plus.com Wed Jul 21 16:27:52 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:27:52 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem Message-ID: <011501c46f69$94db3660$0200a8c0@upstairs> I've just transplanted a new motherboard, processor and RAM into a friends pc... I've turned it on, and now the pc can't or won't see the C:\ drive and won't boot. I've run fixmbr to fix the master boot record, and fixboot, to fix the boot partition... but it insists that there is an error loading the operating system, and it says that there is nothing installed on the drive. I know this to be untrue, as I have been administering this pc for about 6 months... I've tried a recovery console repair, but it can't find anything to repair, the same with a repair install... actually, thinking about it, would the fact that I'm using a win2k cd to repair an xp install be a problem??? hmm... I really need a holiday... Jon From my.lists at verizon.net Wed Jul 21 16:36:48 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:36:48 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem In-Reply-To: <011501c46f69$94db3660$0200a8c0@upstairs> References: <011501c46f69$94db3660$0200a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <40FEE1F0.9070705@verizon.net> you transplanted a mobo on a pc running XP and expected it not to have a problem? :D, Each device generates guids, generally a sysprep before you start ripping out hardware is the fix... if you boot w/ Knoppix can you see data on the drives? Jon Tydda wrote On 7/21/2004 2:27 PM: >I've just transplanted a new motherboard, processor and RAM into a friends >pc... I've turned it on, and now the pc can't or won't see the C:\ drive and >won't boot. > >I've run fixmbr to fix the master boot record, and fixboot, to fix the boot >partition... but it insists that there is an error loading the operating >system, and it says that there is nothing installed on the drive. I know >this to be untrue, as I have been administering this pc for about 6 >months... I've tried a recovery console repair, but it can't find anything >to repair, the same with a repair install... > >actually, thinking about it, would the fact that I'm using a win2k cd to >repair an xp install be a problem??? hmm... I really need a holiday... > > >Jon > > -- -Francisco From jon at tydda.plus.com Wed Jul 21 17:25:03 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:25:03 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem References: <011501c46f69$94db3660$0200a8c0@upstairs> <40FEE1F0.9070705@verizon.net> Message-ID: <012c01c46f71$915d87b0$0200a8c0@upstairs> knoppix? I'll look it up... I don't know, I've never used xp before... not been a problem with 2k. I might get him to use a proper OS ;-) Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francisco H Tapia" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem you transplanted a mobo on a pc running XP and expected it not to have a problem? :D, Each device generates guids, generally a sysprep before you start ripping out hardware is the fix... if you boot w/ Knoppix can you see data on the drives? Jon Tydda wrote On 7/21/2004 2:27 PM: >I've just transplanted a new motherboard, processor and RAM into a friends >pc... I've turned it on, and now the pc can't or won't see the C:\ drive and >won't boot. > >I've run fixmbr to fix the master boot record, and fixboot, to fix the boot >partition... but it insists that there is an error loading the operating >system, and it says that there is nothing installed on the drive. I know >this to be untrue, as I have been administering this pc for about 6 >months... I've tried a recovery console repair, but it can't find anything >to repair, the same with a repair install... > >actually, thinking about it, would the fact that I'm using a win2k cd to >repair an xp install be a problem??? hmm... I really need a holiday... > > >Jon > > -- -Francisco _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Wed Jul 21 17:45:07 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:45:07 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem In-Reply-To: <012c01c46f71$915d87b0$0200a8c0@upstairs> References: <011501c46f69$94db3660$0200a8c0@upstairs> <40FEE1F0.9070705@verizon.net> <012c01c46f71$915d87b0$0200a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <40FEF1F3.4050206@verizon.net> Knoppix is a Live Linux CD, It is capable of reading NTFS partitions, it doesn't however write to NTFS (AFAIK). this should enable you to go back and try a re-install to another directory of XP allowing you to copy over the required information , or if you have a 2nd hdd, install xp to that, and then make any necessary adjustments to the OS drive. Jon Tydda wrote On 7/21/2004 3:25 PM: >knoppix? I'll look it up... > >I don't know, I've never used xp before... not been a problem with 2k. I >might get him to use a proper OS ;-) > > >Jon >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Francisco H Tapia" >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > >Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:36 PM >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem > > >you transplanted a mobo on a pc running XP and expected it not to have a >problem? :D, Each device generates guids, generally a sysprep before >you start ripping out hardware is the fix... > >if you boot w/ Knoppix can you see data on the drives? > > >Jon Tydda wrote On 7/21/2004 2:27 PM: > > > >>I've just transplanted a new motherboard, processor and RAM into a friends >>pc... I've turned it on, and now the pc can't or won't see the C:\ drive >> >> >and > > >>won't boot. >> >>I've run fixmbr to fix the master boot record, and fixboot, to fix the boot >>partition... but it insists that there is an error loading the operating >>system, and it says that there is nothing installed on the drive. I know >>this to be untrue, as I have been administering this pc for about 6 >>months... I've tried a recovery console repair, but it can't find anything >>to repair, the same with a repair install... >> >>actually, thinking about it, would the fact that I'm using a win2k cd to >>repair an xp install be a problem??? hmm... I really need a holiday... >> >> >>Jon >> >> >> >> -- -Francisco From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Wed Jul 21 20:08:12 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:38:12 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011E54@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> The operating systems tracks and configures itself depending on the hardware it uses. I'd be worried if you *didn't* have any problems replacing your hardware! And yeah - you should be generally be using the same OS disk to repair from.. A -----Original Message----- From: Jon Tydda [mailto:jon at tydda.plus.com] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 6:58 AM To: dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem I've just transplanted a new motherboard, processor and RAM into a friends pc... I've turned it on, and now the pc can't or won't see the C:\ drive and won't boot. I've run fixmbr to fix the master boot record, and fixboot, to fix the boot partition... but it insists that there is an error loading the operating system, and it says that there is nothing installed on the drive. I know this to be untrue, as I have been administering this pc for about 6 months... I've tried a recovery console repair, but it can't find anything to repair, the same with a repair install... actually, thinking about it, would the fact that I'm using a win2k cd to repair an xp install be a problem??? hmm... I really need a holiday... Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. 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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Thu Jul 22 03:21:51 2004 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:21:51 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA63ADF5@ALCUXB> er yeah... it was a long day yesterday and I forgot which OS my mate's pc used, and consqequently didn't bring home the correct cd :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: Haslett, Andrew [mailto:andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au] Sent: 22 July 2004 02:08 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem The operating systems tracks and configures itself depending on the hardware it uses. I'd be worried if you *didn't* have any problems replacing your hardware! And yeah - you should be generally be using the same OS disk to repair from.. A -----Original Message----- From: Jon Tydda [mailto:jon at tydda.plus.com] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 6:58 AM To: dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency - winXP problem I've just transplanted a new motherboard, processor and RAM into a friends pc... I've turned it on, and now the pc can't or won't see the C:\ drive and won't boot. I've run fixmbr to fix the master boot record, and fixboot, to fix the boot partition... but it insists that there is an error loading the operating system, and it says that there is nothing installed on the drive. I know this to be untrue, as I have been administering this pc for about 6 months... I've tried a recovery console repair, but it can't find anything to repair, the same with a repair install... actually, thinking about it, would the fact that I'm using a win2k cd to repair an xp install be a problem??? hmm... I really need a holiday... 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Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 22 03:39:00 2004 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:39:00 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: My Swiss colleague is flying to the States this Saturday. He is looking for contact... In-Reply-To: <004501c46f59$e97332f0$0201a8c0@PARIS> References: <004501c46f59$e97332f0$0201a8c0@PARIS> Message-ID: <385736118.20040722103900@cactus.dk> Hi Shamil What is the fourth tier? Is this client, web-server, app-server, db-server? And Bernhard joined the old list of MT Group. Looks like he never joined the new? I have no contacts in that area but I wish him (or both of you if this is a joint-venture) all the best. /gustav > Date: 2004-07-21 21:35 > I'm sorry for off-topic. > My Swiss colleague is flying to the States this Saturday. He is looking > for contact in Washington DC area to become his partner/representative > for his software. This is: > Business: Event Marketing, Event Planning, Event Controlling > Technology: VB6, COM, 4tier, SQL2000, ActiveX etc. > If anybody are interested please contact him > Bernhard.Aggeler at AAAEventSolutions.com > Shamil > -- > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s From shamil at users.mns.ru Thu Jul 22 16:10:08 2004 From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 01:10:08 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: My Swiss colleague is flying to the States thisSaturday. He is looking for contact... References: <004501c46f59$e97332f0$0201a8c0@PARIS> <385736118.20040722103900@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <000d01c47030$4622e690$0201a8c0@PARIS> > What is the fourth tier? I must say I don't know why it was called 4tier application - it looks like 3tier: - VB6 client (nice looking rich GUI) - COM+(MTS) middle tier - MS SQL 2000 > And Bernhard joined the old list of MT Group. Yes, this is Bernhard who participated in MT Group list. >or both of you if this is a joint-venture No, it's not a joint venture and I didn't work for this project. I worked with Bernhard last time right before year 2001 recession started... Thank you for your good wishes for both of us! :) Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: My Swiss colleague is flying to the States thisSaturday. He is looking for contact... > Hi Shamil > > What is the fourth tier? > Is this client, web-server, app-server, db-server? > > And Bernhard joined the old list of MT Group. Looks like he never > joined the new? > > I have no contacts in that area but I wish him (or both of you if this > is a joint-venture) all the best. > > /gustav > > > > Date: 2004-07-21 21:35 > > > I'm sorry for off-topic. > > > My Swiss colleague is flying to the States this Saturday. He is looking > > for contact in Washington DC area to become his partner/representative > > for his software. This is: > > > Business: Event Marketing, Event Planning, Event Controlling > > Technology: VB6, COM, 4tier, SQL2000, ActiveX etc. > > > If anybody are interested please contact him > > Bernhard.Aggeler at AAAEventSolutions.com > > > Shamil > > > -- > > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > > Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sun Jul 25 22:58:08 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:58:08 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <20040624170644.KYVA18566.out011.verizon.net@enterprise> Message-ID: <000301c472c4$c7f64ae0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> I am using Opera a lot recently (and generally love it) but it seems to consume memory at a prodigious rate. After a few hours of comparison shopping for various items, plus a bit of research it is up to 125 mb of memory (according to Task Manager). Granted, closing Opera does give the memory back to the system, but that still seems excessive. If I then simply re-open Opera, it loads the previous state (tabs open, pages loaded) but the memory used drops to a much more reasonable 28mb. I have to assume that it is caching the world. Is there any way to set a limit to the size of that cache so the memory consumption doesn't get so humongous? John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Mon Jul 26 00:23:24 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:53:24 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011E7F@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> Use firefox ;= -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 1:28 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage I am using Opera a lot recently (and generally love it) but it seems to consume memory at a prodigious rate. After a few hours of comparison shopping for various items, plus a bit of research it is up to 125 mb of memory (according to Task Manager). Granted, closing Opera does give the memory back to the system, but that still seems excessive. If I then simply re-open Opera, it loads the previous state (tabs open, pages loaded) but the memory used drops to a much more reasonable 28mb. I have to assume that it is caching the world. Is there any way to set a limit to the size of that cache so the memory consumption doesn't get so humongous? John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. From ralph at inweb.co.uk Mon Jul 26 12:12:24 2004 From: ralph at inweb.co.uk (Ralph Bryce) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:12:24 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <000301c472c4$c7f64ae0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> References: <20040624170644.KYVA18566.out011.verizon.net@enterprise> <000301c472c4$c7f64ae0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040726181007.01f99378@pop3.inweb.co.uk> John, Tools|Preferences|History and Cache Lots of options... HTH Ralph B At 04:58 26/07/2004, you wrote: >I am using Opera a lot recently (and generally love it) but it seems to >consume memory at a prodigious rate. After a few hours of comparison >shopping for various items, plus a bit of research it is up to 125 mb of >memory (according to Task Manager). Granted, closing Opera does give the >memory back to the system, but that still seems excessive. If I then simply >re-open Opera, it loads the previous state (tabs open, pages loaded) but the >memory used drops to a much more reasonable 28mb. > >I have to assume that it is caching the world. Is there any way to set a >limit to the size of that cache so the memory consumption doesn't get so >humongous? > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 26 15:03:11 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:03:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011E7F@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> Message-ID: <001301c4734b$9773b2e0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> LOL. Yea, I was afraid I was going to get that. In fact I have downloaded and installed Firefox as well, and have used it a little. It appears to do the same thing. As I browse, open new windows (tabs), close windows / tabs etc, the memory usage climbs and climbs. It doesn't drop back until I close, then re-open. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett, Andrew Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:23 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage Use firefox ;= -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 1:28 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage I am using Opera a lot recently (and generally love it) but it seems to consume memory at a prodigious rate. After a few hours of comparison shopping for various items, plus a bit of research it is up to 125 mb of memory (according to Task Manager). Granted, closing Opera does give the memory back to the system, but that still seems excessive. If I then simply re-open Opera, it loads the previous state (tabs open, pages loaded) but the memory used drops to a much more reasonable 28mb. I have to assume that it is caching the world. Is there any way to set a limit to the size of that cache so the memory consumption doesn't get so humongous? John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jul 27 01:21:46 2004 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:21:46 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <001301c4734b$9773b2e0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> References: <001301c4734b$9773b2e0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <1471567794.20040727082146@cactus.dk> Hi John It may be so that if another app requests more ram, Opera frees some. If not, put the issue forward to Opera support. /gustav > Date: 2004-07-26 22:03 > LOL. Yea, I was afraid I was going to get that. > In fact I have downloaded and installed Firefox as well, and have used it a > little. It appears to do the same thing. As I browse, open new windows > (tabs), close windows / tabs etc, the memory usage climbs and climbs. It > doesn't drop back until I close, then re-open. > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett, Andrew > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:23 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage > Use firefox ;= > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 1:28 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage > I am using Opera a lot recently (and generally love it) but it seems to > consume memory at a prodigious rate. After a few hours of comparison > shopping for various items, plus a bit of research it is up to 125 mb of > memory (according to Task Manager). Granted, closing Opera does give the > memory back to the system, but that still seems excessive. If I then simply > re-open Opera, it loads the previous state (tabs open, pages loaded) but the > memory used drops to a much more reasonable 28mb. > I have to assume that it is caching the world. Is there any way to set a > limit to the size of that cache so the memory consumption doesn't get so > humongous? > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 27 10:31:22 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:31:22 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem Message-ID: <20040727103122.1926074555.serbach@new.rr.com> Dear Group, I helped a fellow with a Windows ME system analyze his virus difficulties. He has hundreds of infected files, including some essential Windows files (e.g., Explorer.exe). Since he has a dial-up connection we didn't download an anti-virus program since I was being paid for my time. He purchased McAfee and went ahead and scanned his system, finding this long list of problems. He told McAfee to go ahead and fix all the problems. Well, now his PC won't start because Explorer.exe has been quarantined. At least that's what he told me. I should have told him not to run McAfee until he had me on the horn. I want to try to help this guy get his PC started again. He, of course, has no Windows ME disk, as such, but he does have a Restoration CD. Is there a Safe Mode option in ME to allow system files to be restored without having to re-install Windows? Not that re-installing Windows would be such a bad thing. But he's concerned about his programs and data. Re-installing Windows shouldn't hurt his existing programs, but I'd like to be able to tell him what to do with some confidence that what I tell him won't screw things up. Any ideas? Sincerely, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 From bchacc at san.rr.com Tue Jul 27 11:05:47 2004 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:05:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem References: <20040727103122.1926074555.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <00d501c473f3$944e40a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> No backup for the data? Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven W. Erbach" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:31 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > Dear Group, > > I helped a fellow with a Windows ME system analyze his virus difficulties. He has hundreds of infected files, including some essential Windows files (e.g., Explorer.exe). Since he has a dial-up connection we didn't download an anti-virus program since I was being paid for my time. He purchased McAfee and went ahead and scanned his system, finding this long list of problems. He told McAfee to go ahead and fix all the problems. Well, now his PC won't start because Explorer.exe has been quarantined. At least that's what he told me. I should have told him not to run McAfee until he had me on the horn. > > I want to try to help this guy get his PC started again. He, of course, has no Windows ME disk, as such, but he does have a Restoration CD. > > Is there a Safe Mode option in ME to allow system files to be restored without having to re-install Windows? Not that re-installing Windows would be such a bad thing. But he's concerned about his programs and data. Re-installing Windows shouldn't hurt his existing programs, but I'd like to be able to tell him what to do with some confidence that what I tell him won't screw things up. > > Any ideas? > > Sincerely, > > Steve Erbach > Scientific Marketing > Neenah, WI > 920-969-0504 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pharold at proftesting.com Tue Jul 27 11:21:49 2004 From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:21:49 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <20040727103122.1926074555.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131> With a full install CD you get the option to just install windows without changing any current settings. With a restore CD you probably won't know if you have that option until you load the CD and see what the options are. If it's hosed enough not allow Explorer to run, the only option may be a reformat and restore with everything wiped out. Options may be: 1 -Reinstall Windows and keep all settings. No reformat involved. Application software and data that the viruses had not infected will probably all be available. 2 -Reinstall Windows as though a new installation but without reformatting. After the reinstall any application software can be reinstalled and if no data sectors were overwritten or affected by the viruses all data should be available when the data paths are restored. 3 -Reformat and Reinstall. Of course all application software and data is lost (including any that may have been preloaded by the manufacturer.) Essentially it's like starting with a new, out of the box machine. The restore option(s) will likely be whatever the manufacturer decided to allow. Perry Harold -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem Dear Group, I helped a fellow with a Windows ME system analyze his virus difficulties. He has hundreds of infected files, including some essential Windows files (e.g., Explorer.exe). Since he has a dial-up connection we didn't download an anti-virus program since I was being paid for my time. He purchased McAfee and went ahead and scanned his system, finding this long list of problems. He told McAfee to go ahead and fix all the problems. Well, now his PC won't start because Explorer.exe has been quarantined. At least that's what he told me. I should have told him not to run McAfee until he had me on the horn. I want to try to help this guy get his PC started again. He, of course, has no Windows ME disk, as such, but he does have a Restoration CD. Is there a Safe Mode option in ME to allow system files to be restored without having to re-install Windows? Not that re-installing Windows would be such a bad thing. But he's concerned about his programs and data. Re-installing Windows shouldn't hurt his existing programs, but I'd like to be able to tell him what to do with some confidence that what I tell him won't screw things up. Any ideas? Sincerely, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Jul 27 11:45:06 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:45:06 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <001301c4734b$9773b2e0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> References: <001301c4734b$9773b2e0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <41068692.5050202@verizon.net> Wow, you are so right, I hadn't really noticed that, but if I open about 12-15 tabs my memory usage for firefox will surge up about 50megs, (i've yet to see it go over this amount.) but when I begin closing the tabs, I have seen firefox yield about 10 megs but it won't go lower than that unless another program is opened. John W. Colby wrote On 7/26/2004 1:03 PM: >LOL. Yea, I was afraid I was going to get that. > >In fact I have downloaded and installed Firefox as well, and have used it a >little. It appears to do the same thing. As I browse, open new windows >(tabs), close windows / tabs etc, the memory usage climbs and climbs. It >doesn't drop back until I close, then re-open. > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett, Andrew >Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:23 AM >To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage > > >Use firefox ;= > >-----Original Message----- >From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] >Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 1:28 PM >To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage > >I am using Opera a lot recently (and generally love it) but it seems to >consume memory at a prodigious rate. After a few hours of comparison >shopping for various items, plus a bit of research it is up to 125 mb of >memory (according to Task Manager). Granted, closing Opera does give the >memory back to the system, but that still seems excessive. If I then simply >re-open Opera, it loads the previous state (tabs open, pages loaded) but the >memory used drops to a much more reasonable 28mb. > >I have to assume that it is caching the world. Is there any way to set a >limit to the size of that cache so the memory consumption doesn't get so >humongous? > > > -- -Francisco From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 27 12:13:49 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:13:49 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem References: <20040727103122.1926074555.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <003901c473fd$15744cc0$0200a8c0@upstairs> ME is essentially the next version of 98, and as such, he should be able to reinstall windows over the top to "fix" the bad things, without affecting his installed programs and data. There should be a safe mode (if you press F8 during bootup), just like in 95, 98 and 98se, but if Explorer.exe is quarantined, this might not work either. Thinking about it, even if you do a reinstall it might not work, because McAfee could still theoretically block access to explorer.exe. Might be an idea to buy a new hard drive, "recover" the OS to that, then see if you can access the other hard disk... Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven W. Erbach" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem Dear Group, I helped a fellow with a Windows ME system analyze his virus difficulties. He has hundreds of infected files, including some essential Windows files (e.g., Explorer.exe). Since he has a dial-up connection we didn't download an anti-virus program since I was being paid for my time. He purchased McAfee and went ahead and scanned his system, finding this long list of problems. He told McAfee to go ahead and fix all the problems. Well, now his PC won't start because Explorer.exe has been quarantined. At least that's what he told me. I should have told him not to run McAfee until he had me on the horn. I want to try to help this guy get his PC started again. He, of course, has no Windows ME disk, as such, but he does have a Restoration CD. Is there a Safe Mode option in ME to allow system files to be restored without having to re-install Windows? Not that re-installing Windows would be such a bad thing. But he's concerned about his programs and data. Re-installing Windows shouldn't hurt his existing programs, but I'd like to be able to tell him what to do with some confidence that what I tell him won't screw things up. Any ideas? Sincerely, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 27 12:33:28 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:33:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <003901c473fd$15744cc0$0200a8c0@upstairs> References: <20040727103122.1926074555.serbach@new.rr.com> <003901c473fd$15744cc0$0200a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <20040727123328.916886571.serbach@new.rr.com> Jon, >> Might be an idea to buy a new hard drive, "recover" the OS to that, then see if you can access the other hard disk... << Decent idea, and not too expensive...though this guy is a financial planner and lives in a very nice part of town. Not that I have class envy or anything like that... Thanks for your help, Jon. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI "I will stand up and struggle, as others have, to try to get that right balance between violence, and sex, and things." - John Kerry ( http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/US/kerry_interview_040722-3.html ) > ------------Original Message------------ > From: Jon Tydda > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > Date: Tue, Jul-27-2004 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > > ME is essentially the next version of 98, and as such, he should be > able to > reinstall windows over the top to "fix" the bad things, without > affecting > his installed programs and data. There should be a safe mode (if you > press > F8 during bootup), just like in 95, 98 and 98se, but if Explorer.exe is > quarantined, this might not work either. Thinking about it, even if you > do a > reinstall it might not work, because McAfee could still theoretically > block > access to explorer.exe. Might be an idea to buy a new hard drive, > "recover" > the OS to that, then see if you can access the other hard disk... > > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven W. Erbach" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:31 PM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > > > Dear Group, > > I helped a fellow with a Windows ME system analyze his virus > difficulties. > He has hundreds of infected files, including some essential Windows > files > (e.g., Explorer.exe). Since he has a dial-up connection we didn't > download > an anti-virus program since I was being paid for my time. He purchased > McAfee and went ahead and scanned his system, finding this long list of > problems. He told McAfee to go ahead and fix all the problems. Well, > now his > PC won't start because Explorer.exe has been quarantined. At least > that's > what he told me. I should have told him not to run McAfee until he had > me on > the horn. > > I want to try to help this guy get his PC started again. He, of course, > has > no Windows ME disk, as such, but he does have a Restoration CD. > > Is there a Safe Mode option in ME to allow system files to be restored > without having to re-install Windows? Not that re-installing Windows > would > be such a bad thing. But he's concerned about his programs and data. > Re-installing Windows shouldn't hurt his existing programs, but I'd > like to > be able to tell him what to do with some confidence that what I tell > him > won't screw things up. > > Any ideas? > > Sincerely, > > Steve Erbach > Scientific Marketing > Neenah, WI > 920-969-0504 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 27 12:33:54 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:33:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131> References: <20040727103122.1926074555.serbach@new.rr.com> <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131> Message-ID: <20040727123354.404596214.serbach@new.rr.com> Perry, >> With a restore CD you probably won't know if you have that option until you load the CD and see what the options are. << Well put. I've informed this fellow about that already. I think he'll just have to tough it out. Thanks for your input, Perry. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society. The central liberal truth is that politics can change a culture and save it from itself." - Patrick Moynihan > ------------Original Message------------ > From: Perry Harold > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" > Date: Tue, Jul-27-2004 11:40 AM > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > > With a full install CD you get the option to just install windows > without > changing any current settings. With a restore CD you probably won't > know if > you have that option until you load the CD and see what the options > are. If > it's hosed enough not allow Explorer to run, the only option may be a > reformat and restore with everything wiped out. > > Options may be: > 1 -Reinstall Windows and keep all settings. No reformat involved. > Application software and data that the viruses had not infected will > probably all be available. > 2 -Reinstall Windows as though a new installation but without > reformatting. > After the reinstall any application software can be reinstalled and if > no > data sectors were overwritten or affected by the viruses all data > should be > available when the data paths are restored. > 3 -Reformat and Reinstall. Of course all application software and data > is > lost (including any that may have been preloaded by the manufacturer.) > Essentially it's like starting with a new, out of the box machine. > > The restore option(s) will likely be whatever the manufacturer decided > to > allow. > > Perry Harold > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. > Erbach > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:31 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > > > Dear Group, > > I helped a fellow with a Windows ME system analyze his virus > difficulties. > He has hundreds of infected files, including some essential Windows > files > (e.g., Explorer.exe). Since he has a dial-up connection we didn't > download > an anti-virus program since I was being paid for my time. He purchased > McAfee and went ahead and scanned his system, finding this long list of > problems. He told McAfee to go ahead and fix all the problems. Well, > now his > PC won't start because Explorer.exe has been quarantined. At least > that's > what he told me. I should have told him not to run McAfee until he had > me on > the horn. > > I want to try to help this guy get his PC started again. He, of course, > has > no Windows ME disk, as such, but he does have a Restoration CD. > > Is there a Safe Mode option in ME to allow system files to be restored > without having to re-install Windows? Not that re-installing Windows > would > be such a bad thing. But he's concerned about his programs and data. > Re-installing Windows shouldn't hurt his existing programs, but I'd > like to > be able to tell him what to do with some confidence that what I tell > him > won't screw things up. > > Any ideas? > > Sincerely, > > Steve Erbach > Scientific Marketing > Neenah, WI > 920-969-0504 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 27 12:36:39 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:36:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <00d501c473f3$944e40a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> References: <20040727103122.1926074555.serbach@new.rr.com> <00d501c473f3$944e40a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <20040727123639.1218586711.serbach@new.rr.com> Rocky, >> No backup for the data? << As Alan would say, "Tee hee!" This is a home computer on which his kids play games. I have a "Windows XP Emergency Recovery Boot CD" that I bought off of Ebay a while back. I might give that a go. It might allow me to read the C: drive anyway. Thanks, Rocky. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "Being steadfast in defense of carefully considered convictions is a virtue. Being blankly incapable of distinguishing cherished hopes from disappointing facts, or of reassessing comforting doctrines in face of contrary evidence, is a crippling political vice." - George Will From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 27 13:21:37 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:21:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131> Message-ID: <000301c47406$91b04290$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Or inform the user that Windows ME sucks big time anyway and recommend a purchase of XP Home, then install that. If the virus has done that much damage, I personally wouldn't trust that every remotely executable file isn't infected. A new hard disk, clean install of whatever OS you decide, INSTALL A VIRUS SCANNER WITH UPDATED DEFINITIONS!!!! then place the infected disk in as drive D, virus scan it from uninfected Drive C, then take it from there. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Perry Harold Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:22 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem With a full install CD you get the option to just install windows without changing any current settings. With a restore CD you probably won't know if you have that option until you load the CD and see what the options are. If it's hosed enough not allow Explorer to run, the only option may be a reformat and restore with everything wiped out. Options may be: 1 -Reinstall Windows and keep all settings. No reformat involved. Application software and data that the viruses had not infected will probably all be available. 2 -Reinstall Windows as though a new installation but without reformatting. After the reinstall any application software can be reinstalled and if no data sectors were overwritten or affected by the viruses all data should be available when the data paths are restored. 3 -Reformat and Reinstall. Of course all application software and data is lost (including any that may have been preloaded by the manufacturer.) Essentially it's like starting with a new, out of the box machine. The restore option(s) will likely be whatever the manufacturer decided to allow. Perry Harold -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem Dear Group, I helped a fellow with a Windows ME system analyze his virus difficulties. He has hundreds of infected files, including some essential Windows files (e.g., Explorer.exe). Since he has a dial-up connection we didn't download an anti-virus program since I was being paid for my time. He purchased McAfee and went ahead and scanned his system, finding this long list of problems. He told McAfee to go ahead and fix all the problems. Well, now his PC won't start because Explorer.exe has been quarantined. At least that's what he told me. I should have told him not to run McAfee until he had me on the horn. I want to try to help this guy get his PC started again. He, of course, has no Windows ME disk, as such, but he does have a Restoration CD. Is there a Safe Mode option in ME to allow system files to be restored without having to re-install Windows? Not that re-installing Windows would be such a bad thing. But he's concerned about his programs and data. Re-installing Windows shouldn't hurt his existing programs, but I'd like to be able to tell him what to do with some confidence that what I tell him won't screw things up. Any ideas? Sincerely, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 27 13:24:40 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:24:40 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <41068692.5050202@verizon.net> Message-ID: <000401c47406$fe6defe0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> The odd part is that the memory climbs for every gif on a page etc. If I close that tab and reload the SAME PAGE, the memory climbs again as the gifs reload. So much for caching. :( John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:45 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage Wow, you are so right, I hadn't really noticed that, but if I open about 12-15 tabs my memory usage for firefox will surge up about 50megs, (i've yet to see it go over this amount.) but when I begin closing the tabs, I have seen firefox yield about 10 megs but it won't go lower than that unless another program is opened. John W. Colby wrote On 7/26/2004 1:03 PM: >LOL. Yea, I was afraid I was going to get that. > >In fact I have downloaded and installed Firefox as well, and have used >it a little. It appears to do the same thing. As I browse, open new >windows (tabs), close windows / tabs etc, the memory usage climbs and >climbs. It doesn't drop back until I close, then re-open. > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Jul 27 15:15:03 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:15:03 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <000401c47406$fe6defe0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> References: <000401c47406$fe6defe0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <4106B7C7.5030708@verizon.net> For FireFox the increase is very minute if it's the same page being duplicated. it only grows a whole ton if you load diffrent pages and only if you're loading way over 20pages. John W. Colby wrote On 7/27/2004 11:24 AM: >The odd part is that the memory climbs for every gif on a page etc. If I >close that tab and reload the SAME PAGE, the memory climbs again as the gifs >reload. So much for caching. :( > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H >Tapia >Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:45 PM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage > > >Wow, you are so right, I hadn't really noticed that, but if I open about >12-15 tabs my memory usage for firefox will surge up about 50megs, (i've >yet to see it go over this amount.) but when I begin closing the tabs, I >have seen firefox yield about 10 megs but it won't go lower than that >unless another program is opened. > > >John W. Colby wrote On 7/26/2004 1:03 PM: > > > >>LOL. Yea, I was afraid I was going to get that. >> >>In fact I have downloaded and installed Firefox as well, and have used >>it a little. It appears to do the same thing. As I browse, open new >>windows (tabs), close windows / tabs etc, the memory usage climbs and >>climbs. It doesn't drop back until I close, then re-open. >> >>John W. Colby >>www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- -Francisco From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 27 15:17:23 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:17:23 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <000301c47406$91b04290$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> References: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131> <000301c47406$91b04290$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <20040727151723.618020704.serbach@new.rr.com> John, >> A new hard disk, clean install of whatever OS you decide, INSTALL A VIRUS SCANNER WITH UPDATED DEFINITIONS!!!! then place the infected disk in as drive D, virus scan it from uninfected Drive C, then take it from there. << Sensible advice. Thank you. I'm going to package up these comments and e-mail them to this fellow. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most competent people would rather do something other than work for the government..." - Jerry Pournelle From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 27 16:13:44 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:13:44 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem References: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131><000301c47406$91b04290$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> <20040727151723.618020704.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <001201c4741e$99f83d00$0200a8c0@upstairs> Don't forget to install spybot, and the google toolbar. You might also think about one of the freebie firewalls, like Zonealarm or Sygate, I know I would :-) Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven W. Erbach" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem John, >> A new hard disk, clean install of whatever OS you decide, INSTALL A VIRUS SCANNER WITH UPDATED DEFINITIONS!!!! then place the infected disk in as drive D, virus scan it from uninfected Drive C, then take it from there. << Sensible advice. Thank you. I'm going to package up these comments and e-mail them to this fellow. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most competent people would rather do something other than work for the government..." - Jerry Pournelle _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 27 16:33:00 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:33:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <001201c4741e$99f83d00$0200a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <000601c47421$4dee6b70$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> I just purchased a new laptop that will replace my desktop. Because it will be carried to the customer sites I installed the free version of Zonealarm. What a great value! John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:14 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem Don't forget to install spybot, and the google toolbar. You might also think about one of the freebie firewalls, like Zonealarm or Sygate, I know I would :-) Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven W. Erbach" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem John, >> A new hard disk, clean install of whatever OS you decide, INSTALL A VIRUS SCANNER WITH UPDATED DEFINITIONS!!!! then place the infected disk in as drive D, virus scan it from uninfected Drive C, then take it from there. << Sensible advice. Thank you. I'm going to package up these comments and e-mail them to this fellow. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most competent people would rather do something other than work for the government..." - Jerry Pournelle _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Tue Jul 27 16:54:37 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:54:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <001201c4741e$99f83d00$0200a8c0@upstairs> References: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131> <000301c47406$91b04290$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> <20040727151723.618020704.serbach@new.rr.com> <001201c4741e$99f83d00$0200a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <20040727165437.769082138.serbach@new.rr.com> Jon, >> Don't forget to install spybot, and the google toolbar << Why the Google toolbar? Steve Erbach From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 27 16:54:25 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:54:25 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem References: <000601c47421$4dee6b70$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <000e01c47424$48973410$0200a8c0@upstairs> You can't beat free :-) Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Colby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem I just purchased a new laptop that will replace my desktop. Because it will be carried to the customer sites I installed the free version of Zonealarm. What a great value! John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:14 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem Don't forget to install spybot, and the google toolbar. You might also think about one of the freebie firewalls, like Zonealarm or Sygate, I know I would :-) Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven W. Erbach" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem John, >> A new hard disk, clean install of whatever OS you decide, INSTALL A VIRUS SCANNER WITH UPDATED DEFINITIONS!!!! then place the infected disk in as drive D, virus scan it from uninfected Drive C, then take it from there. << Sensible advice. Thank you. I'm going to package up these comments and e-mail them to this fellow. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI 920-969-0504 "One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most competent people would rather do something other than work for the government..." - Jerry Pournelle _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 27 17:36:25 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:36:25 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem References: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131><000301c47406$91b04290$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805><20040727151723.618020704.serbach@new.rr.com><001201c4741e$99f83d00$0200a8c0@upstairs> <20040727165437.769082138.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <000c01c4742a$27d5fbc0$0200a8c0@upstairs> It blocks pop-ups. I assume that zonealarm does as well, but I had google before zonealarm, so I've never bothered to check :-) Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven W. Erbach" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem Jon, >> Don't forget to install spybot, and the google toolbar << Why the Google toolbar? Steve Erbach _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Jul 27 17:53:12 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:53:12 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <000c01c4742a$27d5fbc0$0200a8c0@upstairs> References: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131><000301c47406$91b04290$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805><20040727151723.618020704.serbach@new.rr.com><001201c4741e$99f83d00$0200a8c0@upstairs> <20040727165437.769082138.serbach@new.rr.com> <000c01c4742a$27d5fbc0$0200a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <4106DCD8.6020008@verizon.net> I just use FireFox for my browser and Sygate for my software firewall (even tho I have a hardware one as well). Firefox does not enable ActiveX by default so in that respect you don't have to worry about spyware programs auto-loading on your pc. 2ndly, it prevents popups that you don't want. and lastly, Google is a built in search add-in that sits next to the address bar and works so nice, it's always there and you can choose to add more search addins of your liking :) ie, ebay ;o). Jon Tydda wrote On 7/27/2004 3:36 PM: >It blocks pop-ups. I assume that zonealarm does as well, but I had google >before zonealarm, so I've never bothered to check :-) > > >Jon >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steven W. Erbach" >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > >Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:54 PM >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > > >Jon, > > > >>>Don't forget to install spybot, and the google toolbar << >>> >>> > >Why the Google toolbar? > >Steve Erbach > > -- -Francisco From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Jul 27 18:08:55 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:08:55 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem References: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131><000301c47406$91b04290$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805><20040727151723.618020704.serbach@new.rr.com><001201c4741e$99f83d00$0200a8c0@upstairs> <20040727165437.769082138.serbach@new.rr.com><000c01c4742a$27d5fbc0$0200a8c0@upstairs> <4106DCD8.6020008@verizon.net> Message-ID: <000e01c4742e$b1233a10$0200a8c0@upstairs> Makes sense, but as I'm not allowed to use anything other than IE at work, and I have to learn all about M$ stuff, why go to the bother of learning another browser just for me at home? IE does what I need it to, and with a few sensible precautions, I've (touch wood) never had a virus infect my system here, or had any other issues apart from spyware which has soon been cleaned up with spybot. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francisco H Tapia" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem I just use FireFox for my browser and Sygate for my software firewall (even tho I have a hardware one as well). Firefox does not enable ActiveX by default so in that respect you don't have to worry about spyware programs auto-loading on your pc. 2ndly, it prevents popups that you don't want. and lastly, Google is a built in search add-in that sits next to the address bar and works so nice, it's always there and you can choose to add more search addins of your liking :) ie, ebay ;o). Jon Tydda wrote On 7/27/2004 3:36 PM: >It blocks pop-ups. I assume that zonealarm does as well, but I had google >before zonealarm, so I've never bothered to check :-) > > >Jon >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steven W. Erbach" >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > >Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:54 PM >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > > >Jon, > > > >>>Don't forget to install spybot, and the google toolbar << >>> >>> > >Why the Google toolbar? > >Steve Erbach > > -- -Francisco _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From serbach at new.rr.com Wed Jul 28 07:37:38 2004 From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:37:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <000c01c4742a$27d5fbc0$0200a8c0@upstairs> References: <000701c473f5$d1a99470$082da8c0@D58BT131> <000301c47406$91b04290$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> <20040727151723.618020704.serbach@new.rr.com> <001201c4741e$99f83d00$0200a8c0@upstairs> <20040727165437.769082138.serbach@new.rr.com> <000c01c4742a$27d5fbc0$0200a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <20040728073738.175415501.serbach@new.rr.com> Jon, >> It blocks pop-ups. I assume that zonealarm does as well, but I had google before zonealarm, so I've never bothered to check :-) << The commercial version of ZoneAlarm has an interesting array of privacy settings. You may: * block session cookies * block persistent cookies * block 3rd party cookies * disable web bugs * remove private header information * force cookie expiration * block banner/skyscraper ads * block pop-up/pop-under ads * block animation * fill the space of a blocked ad with # nothing # a box with the word "[AD]" # a box that allows the ad to appear upon mouseover * block javascript * block vbscript (and others) * block embedded objects (java, ActiveX) * block mime-type integrated objects All of these things may be turned on or off. I still don't understand all this, but I've certainly seen the effects on certain sites. For example, if I've got "remove private header information" checked then I can't see many of the comic strips on comics pages web sites. Pamela sends me a number of those each week. For a while I couldn't figure out why I couldn't see them. Turned out to be ZoneAlarm. I like it. I don't even mind the annual fee. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI "IBM had every chance to end the Windows monopoly with OS/2 but shot itself in the foot, ankle, shin, knee, and hip, reloading each time, before giving up." - Jerry Pournelle From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 08:00:10 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:00:10 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <20040728073738.175415501.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <002001c474a2$d3fc7c80$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Steven, This is a great example of how this stuff can get out of hand. Each of these things sounds like it might be useful. Taken as a whole it sounds overwhelming. Then take into account the fact that I want to block cookies from this site but I want to allow cookies from that site. How am I supposed to administer all these things. How am I supposed to even UNDERSTAND all these things? This is like asking me to adjust the local 727 that I am supposed to be just flying in. OK, maybe like adjusting the Cessna that I am just flying in. Sounds good in theory, but the effects can be pretty awful. It seems to me like you'd need to play with each of these settings, one at a time, for several days each just so that you could see their effects on various sites that you know how they should look. Who has time for that? John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:38 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem Jon, >> It blocks pop-ups. I assume that zonealarm does as well, but I had >> google before zonealarm, so I've never bothered to check :-) << The commercial version of ZoneAlarm has an interesting array of privacy settings. You may: * block session cookies * block persistent cookies * block 3rd party cookies * disable web bugs * remove private header information * force cookie expiration * block banner/skyscraper ads * block pop-up/pop-under ads * block animation * fill the space of a blocked ad with # nothing # a box with the word "[AD]" # a box that allows the ad to appear upon mouseover * block javascript * block vbscript (and others) * block embedded objects (java, ActiveX) * block mime-type integrated objects All of these things may be turned on or off. I still don't understand all this, but I've certainly seen the effects on certain sites. For example, if I've got "remove private header information" checked then I can't see many of the comic strips on comics pages web sites. Pamela sends me a number of those each week. For a while I couldn't figure out why I couldn't see them. Turned out to be ZoneAlarm. I like it. I don't even mind the annual fee. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI "IBM had every chance to end the Windows monopoly with OS/2 but shot itself in the foot, ankle, shin, knee, and hip, reloading each time, before giving up." - Jerry Pournelle _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Wed Jul 28 08:04:43 2004 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (=?utf-8?B?Sm9uIFR5ZGRh?=) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:04:43 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UkU6IFtkYmEtVGVjaF0gV2luZG93cyBNRSBNYWx3YXJlIHByb2Js?= =?utf-8?B?ZW0=?= Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA63AE05@ALCUXB> I think I've got most of those turned off on ZA Pro as it does do weird stuff to websites... I've got the ad-blockers on and the pop-up blockers too (I think). Not running it on my work pc, so difficult to remember :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] Sent: 28 July 2004 13:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem Jon, >> It blocks pop-ups. I assume that zonealarm does as well, but I had google before zonealarm, so I've never bothered to check :-) << The commercial version of ZoneAlarm has an interesting array of privacy settings. You may: * block session cookies * block persistent cookies * block 3rd party cookies * disable web bugs * remove private header information * force cookie expiration * block banner/skyscraper ads * block pop-up/pop-under ads * block animation * fill the space of a blocked ad with # nothing # a box with the word "[AD]" # a box that allows the ad to appear upon mouseover * block javascript * block vbscript (and others) * block embedded objects (java, ActiveX) * block mime-type integrated objects All of these things may be turned on or off. I still don't understand all this, but I've certainly seen the effects on certain sites. For example, if I've got "remove private header information" checked then I can't see many of the comic strips on comics pages web sites. Pamela sends me a number of those each week. For a while I couldn't figure out why I couldn't see them. Turned out to be ZoneAlarm. I like it. I don't even mind the annual fee. Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI "IBM had every chance to end the Windows monopoly with OS/2 but shot itself in the foot, ankle, shin, knee, and hip, reloading each time, before giving up." - Jerry Pournelle _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 08:13:33 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:13:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience In-Reply-To: <20040728073738.175415501.serbach@new.rr.com> Message-ID: <002701c474a4$b22c6910$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> I have an internet phone - regular 2ghz wireless phone connected to a "phone modem" - Vonage. I have a wireless LAN. I had heard about interactions between the two, but mostly of the "can't connect to the LAN" variety. I had a regular 4 port router, then purchased a 4 port with wireless router which I got hooked up and functioning. I then later added the internet phone. All in my office in the basement of my house. The wireless phone base (transmitter) was within a couple of feet of the wireless router. Everything worked. I had an old slow laptop and never really noticed any problems, I could connect, my phone conversations occasionally dropped bits but I expect that, this is internet phone after all. I got a new laptop with 802.11g built in. The old wireless router is only b so it worked but only b. It was not lightning fast but fast enough. The range wasn't really great though. I finally decided last night to move the wireless phone base / transmitter. I moved it about 12 feet away from the wall where the wireless router sits. My new laptop doubled or even tripled it's apparent speed, i.e. the time it takes to finish opening a complex site such as msnbc or bestbuy. My apparent range just about doubled as well. Previously I was unable to even use my laptop inside the RV parked in the driveway at the far end of my house - 75 feet or so through several walls. Now I am getting 2mbit link and an entirely satisfactory experience using the laptop there. What a difference 12 feet makes! If you are getting poor performance from your wireless, look at what you have where and try moving things around. It sure helped me. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com From marcus at tsstech.com Wed Jul 28 08:23:56 2004 From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:23:56 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience Message-ID: That's why all my cordless phones are 900mhz. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:14 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience I have an internet phone - regular 2ghz wireless phone connected to a "phone modem" - Vonage. I have a wireless LAN. I had heard about interactions between the two, but mostly of the "can't connect to the LAN" variety. I had a regular 4 port router, then purchased a 4 port with wireless router which I got hooked up and functioning. I then later added the internet phone. All in my office in the basement of my house. The wireless phone base (transmitter) was within a couple of feet of the wireless router. Everything worked. I had an old slow laptop and never really noticed any problems, I could connect, my phone conversations occasionally dropped bits but I expect that, this is internet phone after all. I got a new laptop with 802.11g built in. The old wireless router is only b so it worked but only b. It was not lightning fast but fast enough. The range wasn't really great though. I finally decided last night to move the wireless phone base / transmitter. I moved it about 12 feet away from the wall where the wireless router sits. My new laptop doubled or even tripled it's apparent speed, i.e. the time it takes to finish opening a complex site such as msnbc or bestbuy. My apparent range just about doubled as well. Previously I was unable to even use my laptop inside the RV parked in the driveway at the far end of my house - 75 feet or so through several walls. Now I am getting 2mbit link and an entirely satisfactory experience using the laptop there. What a difference 12 feet makes! If you are getting poor performance from your wireless, look at what you have where and try moving things around. It sure helped me. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com Wed Jul 28 08:37:56 2004 From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:37:56 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn: List Moderators Message-ID: When posting to AccessD, I've received about 6 notifications from the following address (postmaster at energyexhausts.co.uk) with the subject "Delivery Status Notification (Delay)". I've included the content below. Since it is a postmaster address and not a personal address, I have refrained from inquiring as to a possible problem on their end. Any suggestions as to whether or not I should pursue this? 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(Newport News)" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Message-ID: Subject: RE: [AccessD] Multiple Table Search Was => RE: [AccessD] Query giving different results each time Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:18:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: accessd at databaseadvisors.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving List-Id: Access Developers discussion and problem solving List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com Errors-To: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com Return-Path: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2004 12:30:25.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E128DF0:01C473D5] Thanks Drew. Meetings seem to be taking over my day so I will get back to you ASAP with any feedback. Mark -----Original Message----- From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 6:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query giving different results each time Okay, here ya go. I built this into a form, because it uses a lot of 'techniques' to get things done. (Class modules, collections, callback functions (for the list box)), along with all of the associated properties that need to be set to get things done. So instead of trying to explain how to build the form, I'm just posting a link to download it. Right now, my DSL is down (in case anyone wondered why the archives on my site weren't there.....), it will be back up Thursday...so within a few days of that, I will try to remember to put this file on my website. (http://www.wolfwares.com) Until then, I put it on my company's website, for download. http://www.marlow.com/FindAllData.zip The zipped database has a form, query, and class module. Just import all three into whatever database you want. Open the form, enter the search criteria, and click the button. All applicable hits will be displayed in the listbox. You can then double click the listbox to display either the particular record (if a primary key for that table exists), or for all of the results off of that table. Boy, that was actually fun to build! Drew FYI: This code only searches for text, in text and memo fields. It also automatically puts astericks around the search criteria, so if you want to put astericks inside the criteria, go ahead, but they're not necessary on the outside. If you want to search number fields, the code could be modified to do that. Actually, if there is enough of a request for it, I could modify the search form to have different search boxes (text, currency, date/time, etc). Finally, and this is IMPORTANT, the code uses ADO. The sample I built is in 97, which has DAO set by default, but if you use A2k, make sure you have DAO selected. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Query giving different results each time Hello All, In A97 I am running a local query...I couldn't get the results I wanted...so I kept treaking my criteria...but then I realized...that if I didn'tchange anything...I would get slightly different results...each time I ran it. It would omit 1-5 rows...but not the same ones. Desperately confused...any insight? Thanks, Mark A. Matte SQL: SELECT tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.case_id, tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.profile_cm_seq, tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.effdt, tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.bo_id, tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.primary_ind, tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.phone FROM tblPRS_Pending_PHONE WHERE (((tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.effdt)=(SELECT Max(A.effdt) AS MaxOfeffdt FROM tblPRS_Pending_PHONE A WHERE tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.bo_id = A.bo_id;)) AND ((tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.primary_ind)="y")); _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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(Newport News)" >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >Message-ID: >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Multiple Table Search Was => RE: [AccessD] Query > giving different results each time >Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:18:12 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) >Content-Type: text/plain >X-BeenThere: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >List-Id: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >List-Help: >List-Post: >List-Subscribe: , > >List-Archive: >List-Unsubscribe: , > >Sender: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >Errors-To: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >Return-Path: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2004 12:30:25.0359 (UTC) >FILETIME=[7E128DF0:01C473D5] > >Thanks Drew. Meetings seem to be taking over my day so I will get back to >you ASAP with any feedback. > >Mark > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] >Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 6:05 PM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query giving different results each time > > >Okay, here ya go. I built this into a form, because it uses a lot of >'techniques' to get things done. (Class modules, collections, callback >functions (for the list box)), along with all of the associated properties >that need to be set to get things done. So instead of trying to explain >how >to build the form, I'm just posting a link to download it. Right now, my >DSL is down (in case anyone wondered why the archives on my site weren't >there.....), it will be back up Thursday...so within a few days of that, I >will try to remember to put this file on my website. >(http://www.wolfwares.com) > >Until then, I put it on my company's website, for download. > >http://www.marlow.com/FindAllData.zip > >The zipped database has a form, query, and class module. Just import all >three into whatever database you want. Open the form, enter the search >criteria, and click the button. All applicable hits will be displayed in >the listbox. You can then double click the listbox to display either the >particular record (if a primary key for that table exists), or for all of >the results off of that table. > >Boy, that was actually fun to build! > >Drew > >FYI: This code only searches for text, in text and memo fields. It also >automatically puts astericks around the search criteria, so if you want to >put astericks inside the criteria, go ahead, but they're not necessary on >the outside. If you want to search number fields, the code could be >modified to do that. Actually, if there is enough of a request for it, I >could modify the search form to have different search boxes (text, >currency, >date/time, etc). Finally, and this is IMPORTANT, the code uses ADO. The >sample I built is in 97, which has DAO set by default, but if you use A2k, >make sure you have DAO selected. > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark A Matte >Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:35 PM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] Query giving different results each time > > >Hello All, > >In A97 I am running a local query...I couldn't get the results I >wanted...so > >I kept treaking my criteria...but then I realized...that if I didn'tchange >anything...I would get slightly different results...each time I ran it. It >would omit 1-5 rows...but not the same ones. > >Desperately confused...any insight? > >Thanks, > >Mark A. Matte > >SQL: > >SELECT tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.case_id, tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.profile_cm_seq, >tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.effdt, tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.bo_id, >tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.primary_ind, tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.phone >FROM tblPRS_Pending_PHONE >WHERE (((tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.effdt)=(SELECT Max(A.effdt) AS MaxOfeffdt >FROM tblPRS_Pending_PHONE A >WHERE tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.bo_id = A.bo_id;)) AND >((tblPRS_Pending_PHONE.primary_ind)="y")); > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! >http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > >-- >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >-- >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >-- >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >--9B095B5ADSN=_01C45B6D78732E16000007B1energys1.Energy.-- >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 09:28:26 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:28:26 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002a01c474af$28bb5140$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Yea, unfortunately I threw away all my 900 mhz phones (they were awful), and then spent $150 on a new two handset 2ghz set BEFORE even looking at the wireless router. If you know anything about power though, you know that power diminishes at the square of the distance, thus simply moving two transmitters as far apart as possible is going to help reduce interference between the two. And of course, I knew this. ;-) I didn't really know I had an interference problem, or not enough to worry about trying to move things around. After all, everything worked. In my case I had the two within about two feet of each other, and at times about a foot apart. The only reason I didn't do this sooner is that I wanted the phone handset cradle on my desk. I'll live with it where it is given the performance increase of my WAN. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Scott Marcus Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:24 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience That's why all my cordless phones are 900mhz. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:14 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience I have an internet phone - regular 2ghz wireless phone connected to a "phone modem" - Vonage. I have a wireless LAN. I had heard about interactions between the two, but mostly of the "can't connect to the LAN" variety. I had a regular 4 port router, then purchased a 4 port with wireless router which I got hooked up and functioning. I then later added the internet phone. All in my office in the basement of my house. The wireless phone base (transmitter) was within a couple of feet of the wireless router. Everything worked. I had an old slow laptop and never really noticed any problems, I could connect, my phone conversations occasionally dropped bits but I expect that, this is internet phone after all. I got a new laptop with 802.11g built in. The old wireless router is only b so it worked but only b. It was not lightning fast but fast enough. The range wasn't really great though. I finally decided last night to move the wireless phone base / transmitter. I moved it about 12 feet away from the wall where the wireless router sits. My new laptop doubled or even tripled it's apparent speed, i.e. the time it takes to finish opening a complex site such as msnbc or bestbuy. My apparent range just about doubled as well. Previously I was unable to even use my laptop inside the RV parked in the driveway at the far end of my house - 75 feet or so through several walls. Now I am getting 2mbit link and an entirely satisfactory experience using the laptop there. What a difference 12 feet makes! If you are getting poor performance from your wireless, look at what you have where and try moving things around. It sure helped me. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 09:57:36 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:57:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <4106B7C7.5030708@verizon.net> Message-ID: <002b01c474b3$3b5daf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Francisco, You are correct, FireFox seems to handle this stuff way bettered than Opera does. I had Opera up to 120mb this morning, just from some browsing I was doing last night. Opera does continue to climb as you load the same page over and over. For example I use web banking. As I load that page the memory grows. Go into a menu the memory grows, go back to the main summary page, the memory grows etc. Firefox does NOT do that, and in fact (I tested this) on my machine simply stops growing at all at about 57mb of total memory use. That in and of itself is a huge reason to select Firefox over Opera. I must say at the moment I prefer Opera's user interface over Firefox. I like the persistent bookmarks window that you can open off to the left hand side that provides an "always visible" tree of bookmark folders. Of course I have a new laptop with a 1200x800 screen with extra width to use this feature. It would probably not be as useful at the normal CRT screen resolutions. I also like the wand that allows me to record username / password for a given page and just click the button to apply them. In the end though, a browser has to be a little thriftier with memory. One of many reasons I started looking for an alternative to IE was the fact that I'd have 3 or 4 copies of IE open, each using 30-40 mb or RAM. That's just ridiculous. Opera using 120mb is ridiculous as well. If I could figure out how to cap its memory usage I'd probably stick with it. If I can't I will likely move on to Firefox and get used to its user interface. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:15 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage For FireFox the increase is very minute if it's the same page being duplicated. it only grows a whole ton if you load diffrent pages and only if you're loading way over 20pages. John W. Colby wrote On 7/27/2004 11:24 AM: >The odd part is that the memory climbs for every gif on a page etc. If >I close that tab and reload the SAME PAGE, the memory climbs again as >the gifs reload. So much for caching. :( > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H >Tapia >Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:45 PM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage > > >Wow, you are so right, I hadn't really noticed that, but if I open >about >12-15 tabs my memory usage for firefox will surge up about 50megs, (i've >yet to see it go over this amount.) but when I begin closing the tabs, I >have seen firefox yield about 10 megs but it won't go lower than that >unless another program is opened. > > >John W. Colby wrote On 7/26/2004 1:03 PM: > > > >>LOL. Yea, I was afraid I was going to get that. >> >>In fact I have downloaded and installed Firefox as well, and have used >>it a little. It appears to do the same thing. As I browse, open new >>windows (tabs), close windows / tabs etc, the memory usage climbs and >>climbs. It doesn't drop back until I close, then re-open. >> >>John W. Colby >>www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- -Francisco _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 10:17:01 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:17:01 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers In-Reply-To: <002b01c474b3$3b5daf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <002e01c474b5$f1eb2a80$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Does anyone know if it is possible to use two WAN routers. I have an old 802.11B router and want to get a new 802.11g router. It would be nice to set up both and have the wife's laptop (using the B protocol) use the existing router and my laptop (using the G protocol) use the new router. I know that you can specify the channel number at the router, but can you nail down the channel number at the receiving end? IOW force the old laptop to use channel 9 and my laptop to use channel 2 (or something like that). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Wed Jul 28 10:25:40 2004 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:25:40 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA63AE10@ALCUXB> yes, you can specify the channels at both the router and the receiver, but then you've got two channels to be interfered with by your neighbours wlans :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: 28 July 2004 16:17 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Does anyone know if it is possible to use two WAN routers. I have an old 802.11B router and want to get a new 802.11g router. It would be nice to set up both and have the wife's laptop (using the B protocol) use the existing router and my laptop (using the G protocol) use the new router. I know that you can specify the channel number at the router, but can you nail down the channel number at the receiving end? IOW force the old laptop to use channel 9 and my laptop to use channel 2 (or something like that). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From pharold at proftesting.com Wed Jul 28 10:45:48 2004 From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:45:48 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers In-Reply-To: <002e01c474b5$f1eb2a80$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <000601c474b9$f405d050$082da8c0@D58BT131> John Seems like it would cause a problem with DHCP. If you turned it off on one would it still be a router? Perry Harold -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:17 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Does anyone know if it is possible to use two WAN routers. I have an old 802.11B router and want to get a new 802.11g router. It would be nice to set up both and have the wife's laptop (using the B protocol) use the existing router and my laptop (using the G protocol) use the new router. I know that you can specify the channel number at the router, but can you nail down the channel number at the receiving end? IOW force the old laptop to use channel 9 and my laptop to use channel 2 (or something like that). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marcus at tsstech.com Wed Jul 28 10:48:42 2004 From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:48:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Message-ID: John, Make sure you set up windows correctly for the preferred network otherwise the 802.11b laptop will slow down the 802.11g if the 11g signal strength is stronger (Windows and its roaming abilities). If you go this route, you can limit her router to the 802.11b while leaving yours set for the strongest signal (thereby increasing your range and throughput). I'm not an expert so take it for what it's worth. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:17 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Does anyone know if it is possible to use two WAN routers. I have an old 802.11B router and want to get a new 802.11g router. It would be nice to set up both and have the wife's laptop (using the B protocol) use the existing router and my laptop (using the G protocol) use the new router. I know that you can specify the channel number at the router, but can you nail down the channel number at the receiving end? IOW force the old laptop to use channel 9 and my laptop to use channel 2 (or something like that). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 10:51:24 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:51:24 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA63AE10@ALCUXB> Message-ID: <003401c474ba$bcd56fe0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> LOL, yea but I love in the country. I have scanned using netstumbler and all is deathly quiet around me. Because of my location, I am on a cable leg with virtually no other web users. I get almost 5 mbit/sec bandwidth. 8-)) John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:26 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers yes, you can specify the channels at both the router and the receiver, but then you've got two channels to be interfered with by your neighbours wlans :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: 28 July 2004 16:17 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Does anyone know if it is possible to use two WAN routers. I have an old 802.11B router and want to get a new 802.11g router. It would be nice to set up both and have the wife's laptop (using the B protocol) use the existing router and my laptop (using the G protocol) use the new router. I know that you can specify the channel number at the router, but can you nail down the channel number at the receiving end? IOW force the old laptop to use channel 9 and my laptop to use channel 2 (or something like that). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marcus at tsstech.com Wed Jul 28 11:04:33 2004 From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:04:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience Message-ID: I bought my wife an industrial strength pencil sharpener (she's an artist). Without my knowledge, she plugged it into the power strip that my Wireless G router is plugged into and set it right next to the router. I took me a few minutes to figure out that this was causing all 3 computers connection problems wirelessly. Move the sharpener 6 feet away and plugged it into a different outlet, problem solved. From my.lists at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 11:03:12 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:03:12 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <002001c474a2$d3fc7c80$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> References: <002001c474a2$d3fc7c80$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <4107CE40.8010808@verizon.net> John, everything is more complicated now-a-days. It used to be that you didn't really have to train new users on how to work the antivirus dialog screens, it used to be that you didn't have to teach them what NOT to open in their email boxes, it used to be that you didn't have to worry about "crap" games they would download off the internet, it "used" to be... firewalls (software/hardware) are required software/hardware for pc's just like Antivirus software are required parts of having a pc. Session cookies, and internet annonimity is not an easy task as you may want. You CAN pay an annonymizer service to help you manage this, but now you're talking about paying out THREE annual fees, just so you are safe and protected on the internet :) John W. Colby wrote On 7/28/2004 6:00 AM: >Steven, > >This is a great example of how this stuff can get out of hand. Each of >these things sounds like it might be useful. Taken as a whole it sounds >overwhelming. Then take into account the fact that I want to block cookies >from this site but I want to allow cookies from that site. How am I >supposed to administer all these things. How am I supposed to even >UNDERSTAND all these things? This is like asking me to adjust the local 727 >that I am supposed to be just flying in. OK, maybe like adjusting the >Cessna that I am just flying in. Sounds good in theory, but the effects can >be pretty awful. > >It seems to me like you'd need to play with each of these settings, one at a >time, for several days each just so that you could see their effects on >various sites that you know how they should look. Who has time for that? > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:38 AM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > > >Jon, > > > >>>It blocks pop-ups. I assume that zonealarm does as well, but I had >>>google >>> >>> >before zonealarm, so I've never bothered to check :-) << > >The commercial version of ZoneAlarm has an interesting array of privacy >settings. You may: > >* block session cookies >* block persistent cookies >* block 3rd party cookies >* disable web bugs >* remove private header information >* force cookie expiration >* block banner/skyscraper ads >* block pop-up/pop-under ads >* block animation >* fill the space of a blocked ad with > # nothing > # a box with the word "[AD]" > # a box that allows the ad to appear upon mouseover >* block javascript >* block vbscript (and others) >* block embedded objects (java, ActiveX) >* block mime-type integrated objects > >All of these things may be turned on or off. I still don't understand all >this, but I've certainly seen the effects on certain sites. For example, if >I've got "remove private header information" checked then I can't see many >of the comic strips on comics pages web sites. Pamela sends me a number of >those each week. For a while I couldn't figure out why I couldn't see them. >Turned out to be ZoneAlarm. > >I like it. I don't even mind the annual fee. > >Regards, > >Steve Erbach >Scientific Marketing >Neenah, WI > >"IBM had every chance to end the Windows monopoly with OS/2 but shot itself >in the foot, ankle, shin, knee, and hip, reloading each time, before giving >up." - Jerry Pournelle > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- -Francisco From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 11:11:53 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:11:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers In-Reply-To: <000601c474b9$f405d050$082da8c0@D58BT131> Message-ID: <003e01c474bd$9c0e99a0$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Well... That is a good question. I know that my plain wireless router can function as just a router without being the DHCP server. In the end a windows server machine is often the DHCP server and a router is still supposed to work in that environment. OTOH I have seen at least one gripe about one model of one brand in this regard. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Perry Harold Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:46 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers John Seems like it would cause a problem with DHCP. If you turned it off on one would it still be a router? Perry Harold -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:17 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Does anyone know if it is possible to use two WAN routers. I have an old 802.11B router and want to get a new 802.11g router. It would be nice to set up both and have the wife's laptop (using the B protocol) use the existing router and my laptop (using the G protocol) use the new router. I know that you can specify the channel number at the router, but can you nail down the channel number at the receiving end? IOW force the old laptop to use channel 9 and my laptop to use channel 2 (or something like that). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 12:32:30 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:32:30 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <002b01c474b3$3b5daf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> References: <002b01c474b3$3b5daf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <4107E32E.70307@verizon.net> in firefox ver .9.2: The treeview bookmark window on the left hand side is a feature of Firefox, it doesn't automatically open up, but once you do, it is always on until you close it, so your screen would be slated into 2 portions, the left bookmark side and the right browser page. I'm surprised you hadn't seen this before, Using the default firefox skin, the button you want to click is to the right of the "Next" arrow button (points right). it looks like a page w/ a bookmark on it, click it once and it opens up this treeview interface you were talking about. John W. Colby wrote On 7/28/2004 7:57 AM: >Francisco, > >You are correct, FireFox seems to handle this stuff way bettered than Opera >does. I had Opera up to 120mb this morning, just from some browsing I was >doing last night. Opera does continue to climb as you load the same page >over and over. For example I use web banking. As I load that page the >memory grows. Go into a menu the memory grows, go back to the main summary >page, the memory grows etc. > >Firefox does NOT do that, and in fact (I tested this) on my machine simply >stops growing at all at about 57mb of total memory use. That in and of >itself is a huge reason to select Firefox over Opera. I must say at the >moment I prefer Opera's user interface over Firefox. I like the persistent >bookmarks window that you can open off to the left hand side that provides >an "always visible" tree of bookmark folders. Of course I have a new laptop >with a 1200x800 screen with extra width to use this feature. It would >probably not be as useful at the normal CRT screen resolutions. > >I also like the wand that allows me to record username / password for a >given page and just click the button to apply them. In the end though, a >browser has to be a little thriftier with memory. One of many reasons I >started looking for an alternative to IE was the fact that I'd have 3 or 4 >copies of IE open, each using 30-40 mb or RAM. That's just ridiculous. >Opera using 120mb is ridiculous as well. If I could figure out how to cap >its memory usage I'd probably stick with it. If I can't I will likely move >on to Firefox and get used to its user interface. > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H >Tapia >Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:15 PM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage > > >For FireFox the increase is very minute if it's the same page being >duplicated. it only grows a whole ton if you load diffrent pages and >only if you're loading way over 20pages. > > >John W. Colby wrote On 7/27/2004 11:24 AM: > > > >>The odd part is that the memory climbs for every gif on a page etc. If >>I close that tab and reload the SAME PAGE, the memory climbs again as >>the gifs reload. So much for caching. :( >> >>John W. Colby >>www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H >>Tapia >>Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:45 PM >>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage >> >> >>Wow, you are so right, I hadn't really noticed that, but if I open >>about >>12-15 tabs my memory usage for firefox will surge up about 50megs, (i've >>yet to see it go over this amount.) but when I begin closing the tabs, I >>have seen firefox yield about 10 megs but it won't go lower than that >>unless another program is opened. >> >> >>John W. Colby wrote On 7/26/2004 1:03 PM: >> >> >> >> >> >>>LOL. Yea, I was afraid I was going to get that. >>> >>>In fact I have downloaded and installed Firefox as well, and have used >>>it a little. It appears to do the same thing. As I browse, open new >>>windows (tabs), close windows / tabs etc, the memory usage climbs and >>>climbs. It doesn't drop back until I close, then re-open. >>> >>>John W. Colby >>>www.ColbyConsulting.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- -Francisco From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 12:41:49 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:41:49 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem In-Reply-To: <4107CE40.8010808@verizon.net> Message-ID: <004801c474ca$29557a20$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> And of course you are right. In the end, anonymity is not a concern with me, but not being harassed (or worse) is. I could care less if every advertiser in the world tracked exactly where I surfed as long as they didn't flood my inbox with advertising, or cause popups when I am browsing. They do (or try) so I do or try to prevent all this stuff. On the other hand there comes a point where the time taken to learn the ins and outs of the new technology leaves me no time to use the every technology I am trying to learn about, never mind do work for money. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:03 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem John, everything is more complicated now-a-days. It used to be that you didn't really have to train new users on how to work the antivirus dialog screens, it used to be that you didn't have to teach them what NOT to open in their email boxes, it used to be that you didn't have to worry about "crap" games they would download off the internet, it "used" to be... firewalls (software/hardware) are required software/hardware for pc's just like Antivirus software are required parts of having a pc. Session cookies, and internet annonimity is not an easy task as you may want. You CAN pay an annonymizer service to help you manage this, but now you're talking about paying out THREE annual fees, just so you are safe and protected on the internet :) John W. Colby wrote On 7/28/2004 6:00 AM: >Steven, > >This is a great example of how this stuff can get out of hand. Each of >these things sounds like it might be useful. Taken as a whole it >sounds overwhelming. Then take into account the fact that I want to >block cookies from this site but I want to allow cookies from that >site. How am I supposed to administer all these things. How am I >supposed to even UNDERSTAND all these things? This is like asking me >to adjust the local 727 that I am supposed to be just flying in. OK, >maybe like adjusting the Cessna that I am just flying in. Sounds good >in theory, but the effects can be pretty awful. > >It seems to me like you'd need to play with each of these settings, one >at a time, for several days each just so that you could see their >effects on various sites that you know how they should look. Who has >time for that? > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. >Erbach >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:38 AM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > > >Jon, > > > >>>It blocks pop-ups. I assume that zonealarm does as well, but I had >>>google >>> >>> >before zonealarm, so I've never bothered to check :-) << > >The commercial version of ZoneAlarm has an interesting array of privacy >settings. You may: > >* block session cookies >* block persistent cookies >* block 3rd party cookies >* disable web bugs >* remove private header information >* force cookie expiration >* block banner/skyscraper ads >* block pop-up/pop-under ads >* block animation >* fill the space of a blocked ad with > # nothing > # a box with the word "[AD]" > # a box that allows the ad to appear upon mouseover >* block javascript >* block vbscript (and others) >* block embedded objects (java, ActiveX) >* block mime-type integrated objects > >All of these things may be turned on or off. I still don't understand >all this, but I've certainly seen the effects on certain sites. For >example, if I've got "remove private header information" checked then I >can't see many of the comic strips on comics pages web sites. Pamela >sends me a number of those each week. For a while I couldn't figure out >why I couldn't see them. Turned out to be ZoneAlarm. > >I like it. I don't even mind the annual fee. > >Regards, > >Steve Erbach >Scientific Marketing >Neenah, WI > >"IBM had every chance to end the Windows monopoly with OS/2 but shot >itself in the foot, ankle, shin, knee, and hip, reloading each time, >before giving up." - Jerry Pournelle > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- -Francisco _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 12:50:56 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:50:56 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <4107E32E.70307@verizon.net> Message-ID: <004901c474cb$723fbf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> I have not loaded any skin for firefox. The toolbar shows a back, next, reload, stop, home, and open new window button. Then the address combo, then the google search. I can find a bookmark manager which shows a tree structure, but it doesn't appear to dock anywhere. In fact I just right clicked the toolbar and found a customize menu item, which does hold such a button. I dragged and dropped it to the bar, pressed it and I now have the pane we are discussing. Thanks for that. Now, is there a username/password wand anywhere? If I open a site with a username / password, firefox will offer to fill in the data, but if I log out but leave the tab open, I need a tool to re-enter the data to log back in. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:33 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage in firefox ver .9.2: The treeview bookmark window on the left hand side is a feature of Firefox, it doesn't automatically open up, but once you do, it is always on until you close it, so your screen would be slated into 2 portions, the left bookmark side and the right browser page. I'm surprised you hadn't seen this before, Using the default firefox skin, the button you want to click is to the right of the "Next" arrow button (points right). it looks like a page w/ a bookmark on it, click it once and it opens up this treeview interface you were talking about. John W. Colby wrote On 7/28/2004 7:57 AM: >Francisco, > >You are correct, FireFox seems to handle this stuff way bettered than >Opera does. I had Opera up to 120mb this morning, just from some >browsing I was doing last night. Opera does continue to climb as you >load the same page over and over. For example I use web banking. As I >load that page the memory grows. Go into a menu the memory grows, go >back to the main summary page, the memory grows etc. > >Firefox does NOT do that, and in fact (I tested this) on my machine >simply stops growing at all at about 57mb of total memory use. That in >and of itself is a huge reason to select Firefox over Opera. I must >say at the moment I prefer Opera's user interface over Firefox. I like >the persistent bookmarks window that you can open off to the left hand >side that provides an "always visible" tree of bookmark folders. Of >course I have a new laptop with a 1200x800 screen with extra width to >use this feature. It would probably not be as useful at the normal CRT >screen resolutions. > >I also like the wand that allows me to record username / password for a >given page and just click the button to apply them. In the end though, >a browser has to be a little thriftier with memory. One of many >reasons I started looking for an alternative to IE was the fact that >I'd have 3 or 4 copies of IE open, each using 30-40 mb or RAM. That's >just ridiculous. Opera using 120mb is ridiculous as well. If I could >figure out how to cap its memory usage I'd probably stick with it. If >I can't I will likely move on to Firefox and get used to its user >interface. > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > From artful at rogers.com Wed Jul 28 12:54:43 2004 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:54:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Optimal use of multiple ancient boxes In-Reply-To: <40FD986C.4060807@verizon.net> Message-ID: <014301c474cb$f68d8770$6601a8c0@rock> As a member of all the dba lists, I'm all too aware that I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer :) So in that spirit, I'd like to poll the members on this question: Given X PCs (in my case 3), none SOTA (state of the art), how should I be thinking of distributing tasks and resources (and also users) across them? So far my tendency has been to put the fancy stuff (such as dvd+cd burner) on the fastest box, my development machine. But I'm beginning to think that this is stupid; that I should move the burner to one of the slow boxes (they're all quick enough to run wxp), so that I'm not wasting cycles on my development box doing things like backing up data to the dvd or violating various music copyrights :) The old boxes don't do much more than sit there, most of the time. They both run different versions of Linux as well as wxp, but I only play around with Linux, I'm far from expert in its use -- it's just a learning experience for me. I should mention that I also have a pretty ancient Compaq server, with RAID and twin 400-Mz CPUs, that runs Win Advanced Server 2k. Mostly it runs nothing but SQL Server 2000 and the 2005 beta. It has mere 18GB hard disks and that's not likely to change, given the cost of replacing 5 drives. 1. I'd like to add Terminal Services to the server so I can demonstrate to clients how that works when running an Access app. 2. I want to set up an ftp server (now that I finally understand how to make it work behind a firewall! Like I said, not the sharpest knife). Should I put it on the server? There aren't a lot of free GB there, but I could easily point the server to look for its files on another machine where there is a big disk available. The ftp server is not really for public consumption; more like various clients, project collaborators, colleagues and friends -- passworded entry, no anonymous login, users profiled to grant and deny various directories -- that sort of thing. 3. My three boxes are located in a U-shape so that I just spin 90 degrees and address each one. I try to install apps "chronologically" according to the abilities of the boxes, i.e., the oldest apps run on the slowest box (Access 97 is installed only on the oldest box) and conversely. Some necessary things are installed on every box (i.e., Office). 4. I built this "notwork" up step by step, with virtually no knowledge of how to set up a network. The result, as you might guess, sucks. I could bore you further with the details, but instead I'd rather ask how I get from this mess to where I want to be: a) any user can use any machine, and get her/his profile, directory access, Outlook.pst, etc. b) currently it's all screwed up; from one particular box I can see everything I need to see. Every other box sees parts of the configuration, and none sees all. I think there is a wizard that will let me copy the good config to all the other boxes, but I forget what it's called. c) should the server contain the instances of software such as Office, so that I update only one instance and every user hits that single instance using a shortcut? I.e., shortcut to \\server\folder\msaccess.exe "MDB2hit". I confess that I have no idea how this stuff is done. I have worked in places where it was already working when I got there, so I didn't learn the details. What I knew was that I could log on from any workstation and get my Office menu, my Outlook file, my database tools and so on. Didn't matter which station I used. I entered my uid and pswd and that was that. That's what I want to build here at home. I realize that there's an issue lurking within: what happens when I open Outlook from Station A, don't close it, and then open it from Station B? I don't know. Maybe the rule is that I have to close station A before opening B. In the ideal world, I wouldn't have to think about this -- each station's instance would automatically refresh. 5. I screwed everything up in the various chronological installations. When Setup asked me for a domain name, I thought that it meant I needed to have an existing URL. On another box it's registered under WorkGroup. I want to blow all these definitions away and create domain "D" and then place all the boxes in said domain, so that any user can logon to any box and see her stuff, according to her profile (i.e. users Arthur and Audra administrators and can do anything, while users Howard and Denny are mere lUsers and cannot shoot themselves in the foot). How can I get from here to there? Do I have to nuke everything and everyone and rebuild from scratch? Any advice from gurus who can turn "notworks" into "networks" profoundly appreciated. Arthur From bchacc at san.rr.com Wed Jul 28 14:37:18 2004 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:37:18 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Startup Sound Message-ID: <019d01c474da$4b37fef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Where in Windows XP is the place where you can set the wav file to play on startup? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software http://www.e-z-mrp.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Wed Jul 28 14:49:47 2004 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:49:47 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Startup Sound References: <019d01c474da$4b37fef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <000801c474dc$0a091110$0200a8c0@upstairs> control panels / sounds and multimedia or thereabouts Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" To: "dba-tech" Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:37 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Startup Sound Where in Windows XP is the place where you can set the wav file to play on startup? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software http://www.e-z-mrp.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Wed Jul 28 15:42:08 2004 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:42:08 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Startup Sound References: <019d01c474da$4b37fef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> <000801c474dc$0a091110$0200a8c0@upstairs> Message-ID: <01e001c474e3$5a1e7440$6601a8c0@HAL9002> That's it! Thank you Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Startup Sound > control panels / sounds and multimedia or thereabouts > > Jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" > To: "dba-tech" > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:37 PM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Startup Sound > > > Where in Windows XP is the place where you can set the wav file to play on > startup? > > TIA > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > http://www.e-z-mrp.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Jul 28 15:56:36 2004 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:56:36 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story References: <019d01c474da$4b37fef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002><000801c474dc$0a091110$0200a8c0@upstairs> <01e001c474e3$5a1e7440$6601a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <000d01c474e5$5fbab1a0$2702a8c0@Martin> A dell story Order a new DELL XPS on Friday, arrived TODAY. Wonderful says I, what service. XP Home installed. Ran an upgrade to XP PRO and got a core dump. Rang Dell tech support You cant do that says some guy, you need to buy a proper OEM XP Pro CD from Dell for ?181 UK Crap! I fixed the problem myself and upgraded. No USB Support following the upgrade. Rang Dell tech support You cant do that says some guy, you need to buy a proper OEM XP Pro CD from Dell for ?181 UK Crap Google on USB Not Working - first site up http://www.dylangreene.com/blog.asp?blogID=292 USB fixed, XP Pro up and running, all the preinstalled Dell software working, system flying along Dell tech support Zero - Google 100% above web site wonderful! Martin From MPorter at acsalaska.com Wed Jul 28 16:17:26 2004 From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:17:26 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4B93@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com> Thanks, my 2GHz phone is sitting ON my wireless 4 port. I don't have a lot of wirless laptop usage, but my range is abysmal. I'll try moving it. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > John W. Colby > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:28 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience > > > Yea, unfortunately I threw away all my 900 mhz phones (they > were awful), and > then spent $150 on a new two handset 2ghz set BEFORE even > looking at the > wireless router. If you know anything about power though, > you know that > power diminishes at the square of the distance, thus simply moving two > transmitters as far apart as possible is going to help reduce > interference > between the two. And of course, I knew this. ;-) I didn't > really know I > had an interference problem, or not enough to worry about > trying to move > things around. After all, everything worked. > > In my case I had the two within about two feet of each other, > and at times > about a foot apart. The only reason I didn't do this sooner is that I > wanted the phone handset cradle on my desk. I'll live with > it where it is > given the performance increase of my WAN. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Scott Marcus > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:24 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience > > > That's why all my cordless phones are 900mhz. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > John W. Colby > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:14 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience > > > I have an internet phone - regular 2ghz wireless phone > connected to a "phone > modem" - Vonage. I have a wireless LAN. I had heard about > interactions > between the two, but mostly of the "can't connect to the LAN" variety. > > I had a regular 4 port router, then purchased a 4 port with > wireless router > which I got hooked up and functioning. I then later added > the internet > phone. All in my office in the basement of my house. The > wireless phone > base (transmitter) was within a couple of feet of the wireless router. > Everything worked. I had an old slow laptop and never really > noticed any > problems, I could connect, my phone conversations > occasionally dropped bits > but I expect that, this is internet phone after all. > > I got a new laptop with 802.11g built in. The old wireless > router is only b > so it worked but only b. It was not lightning fast but fast > enough. The > range wasn't really great though. > > I finally decided last night to move the wireless phone base > / transmitter. > I moved it about 12 feet away from the wall where the > wireless router sits. > My new laptop doubled or even tripled it's apparent speed, > i.e. the time it > takes to finish opening a complex site such as msnbc or bestbuy. My > apparent range just about doubled as well. Previously I was > unable to even > use my laptop inside the RV parked in the driveway at the far > end of my > house - 75 feet or so through several walls. Now I am > getting 2mbit link > and an entirely satisfactory experience using the laptop there. > > What a difference 12 feet makes! If you are getting poor > performance from > your wireless, look at what you have where and try moving > things around. It > sure helped me. > > John W. 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ACS From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Wed Jul 28 16:10:57 2004 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:10:57 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Optimal use of multiple ancient boxes References: <014301c474cb$f68d8770$6601a8c0@rock> Message-ID: <41081661.7010501@shaw.ca> This may or may not help you but should you need to test code running in one environment against other code running in a different environment say Win2000 vs WinXP, you can do that too, by setting up a virtual network link between the two separate virtual machines and letting them interwork that way on the same PC. Of course, this can slow down just about any machine, so think about working in environments with 200-plus GB of disk space, at least 1 GB of RAM, and the fastest CPU you can afford. You can use MS Virtual PC or Virtual Server. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx Arthur Fuller wrote: >As a member of all the dba lists, I'm all too aware that I'm not the >sharpest knife in the drawer :) So in that spirit, I'd like to poll the >members on this question: > >Given X PCs (in my case 3), none SOTA (state of the art), how should I >be thinking of distributing tasks and resources (and also users) across >them? So far my tendency has been to put the fancy stuff (such as dvd+cd >burner) on the fastest box, my development machine. But I'm beginning to >think that this is stupid; that I should move the burner to one of the >slow boxes (they're all quick enough to run wxp), so that I'm not >wasting cycles on my development box doing things like backing up data >to the dvd or violating various music copyrights :) The old boxes don't >do much more than sit there, most of the time. They both run different >versions of Linux as well as wxp, but I only play around with Linux, I'm >far from expert in its use -- it's just a learning experience for me. > >I should mention that I also have a pretty ancient Compaq server, with >RAID and twin 400-Mz CPUs, that runs Win Advanced Server 2k. Mostly it >runs nothing but SQL Server 2000 and the 2005 beta. It has mere 18GB >hard disks and that's not likely to change, given the cost of replacing >5 drives. > >1. I'd like to add Terminal Services to the server so I can demonstrate >to clients how that works when running an Access app. >2. I want to set up an ftp server (now that I finally understand how to >make it work behind a firewall! Like I said, not the sharpest knife). >Should I put it on the server? There aren't a lot of free GB there, but >I could easily point the server to look for its files on another machine >where there is a big disk available. The ftp server is not really for >public consumption; more like various clients, project collaborators, >colleagues and friends -- passworded entry, no anonymous login, users >profiled to grant and deny various directories -- that sort of thing. >3. My three boxes are located in a U-shape so that I just spin 90 >degrees and address each one. I try to install apps "chronologically" >according to the abilities of the boxes, i.e., the oldest apps run on >the slowest box (Access 97 is installed only on the oldest box) and >conversely. Some necessary things are installed on every box (i.e., >Office). >4. I built this "notwork" up step by step, with virtually no knowledge >of how to set up a network. The result, as you might guess, sucks. I >could bore you further with the details, but instead I'd rather ask how >I get from this mess to where I want to be: > > a) any user can use any machine, and get her/his profile, >directory access, Outlook.pst, etc. > b) currently it's all screwed up; from one particular box I can >see everything I need to see. Every other box sees parts of the >configuration, and none sees all. I think there is a wizard that will >let me copy the good config to all the other boxes, but I forget what >it's called. > c) should the server contain the instances of software such as >Office, so that I update only one instance and every user hits that >single instance using a shortcut? I.e., shortcut to >\\server\folder\msaccess.exe "MDB2hit". I confess that I have no idea >how this stuff is done. I have worked in places where it was already >working when I got there, so I didn't learn the details. What I knew was >that I could log on from any workstation and get my Office menu, my >Outlook file, my database tools and so on. Didn't matter which station I >used. I entered my uid and pswd and that was that. That's what I want to >build here at home. I realize that there's an issue lurking within: what >happens when I open Outlook from Station A, don't close it, and then >open it from Station B? I don't know. Maybe the rule is that I have to >close station A before opening B. In the ideal world, I wouldn't have to >think about this -- each station's instance would automatically refresh. > >5. I screwed everything up in the various chronological installations. >When Setup asked me for a domain name, I thought that it meant I needed >to have an existing URL. On another box it's registered under WorkGroup. >I want to blow all these definitions away and create domain "D" and then >place all the boxes in said domain, so that any user can logon to any >box and see her stuff, according to her profile (i.e. users Arthur and >Audra administrators and can do anything, while users Howard and Denny >are mere lUsers and cannot shoot themselves in the foot). > >How can I get from here to there? Do I have to nuke everything and >everyone and rebuild from scratch? > >Any advice from gurus who can turn "notworks" into "networks" profoundly >appreciated. >Arthur > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Jul 28 16:50:58 2004 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:50:58 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <002b01c474b3$3b5daf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> References: <4106B7C7.5030708@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4108AC62.27823.3C1535D@lexacorp.com.pg> On 28 Jul 2004 at 10:57, John W. Colby wrote: > itself is a huge reason to select Firefox over Opera. I must say at the > moment I prefer Opera's user interface over Firefox. I like the persistent > bookmarks window that you can open off to the left hand side that provides > an "always visible" tree of bookmark folders. Of course I have a new laptop > with a 1200x800 screen with extra width to use this feature. It would > probably not be as useful at the normal CRT screen resolutions. > Have you tried Ctrl+B (View | Sidebar | Boookmarks) :-) -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Jul 28 16:57:14 2004 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:57:14 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <4107E32E.70307@verizon.net> References: <002b01c474b3$3b5daf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <4108ADDA.8413.3C7101D@lexacorp.com.pg> On 28 Jul 2004 at 10:32, Francisco H Tapia wrote: > in firefox ver .9.2: > The treeview bookmark window on the left hand side is a feature of > Firefox, it doesn't automatically open up, but once you do, it is always > on until you close it, so your screen would be slated into 2 portions, > the left bookmark side and the right browser page. I'm surprised you > hadn't seen this before, Using the default firefox skin, the button you > want to click is to the right of the "Next" arrow button (points > right). it looks like a page w/ a bookmark on it, click it once and it > opens up this treeview interface you were talking about. > > It's not on my default. I added it with Right Click-Customize. When I selected "Restore Default Set" on the Customize page, it was removed. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From my.lists at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 17:39:16 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:39:16 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <004901c474cb$723fbf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> References: <004901c474cb$723fbf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Message-ID: <41082B14.70606@verizon.net> perhaps what you are looking for is in some sort of .xpi addin? i'll keep my eye opened for such a tool John W. Colby wrote On 7/28/2004 10:50 AM: >I have not loaded any skin for firefox. The toolbar shows a back, next, >reload, stop, home, and open new window button. Then the address combo, >then the google search. > >I can find a bookmark manager which shows a tree structure, but it doesn't >appear to dock anywhere. > >In fact I just right clicked the toolbar and found a customize menu item, >which does hold such a button. I dragged and dropped it to the bar, pressed >it and I now have the pane we are discussing. > >Thanks for that. Now, is there a username/password wand anywhere? If I >open a site with a username / password, firefox will offer to fill in the >data, but if I log out but leave the tab open, I need a tool to re-enter the >data to log back in. > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H >Tapia >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:33 PM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage > > >in firefox ver .9.2: >The treeview bookmark window on the left hand side is a feature of >Firefox, it doesn't automatically open up, but once you do, it is always >on until you close it, so your screen would be slated into 2 portions, >the left bookmark side and the right browser page. I'm surprised you >hadn't seen this before, Using the default firefox skin, the button you >want to click is to the right of the "Next" arrow button (points >right). it looks like a page w/ a bookmark on it, click it once and it >opens up this treeview interface you were talking about. > > > >John W. Colby wrote On 7/28/2004 7:57 AM: > > > >>Francisco, >> >>You are correct, FireFox seems to handle this stuff way bettered than >>Opera does. I had Opera up to 120mb this morning, just from some >>browsing I was doing last night. Opera does continue to climb as you >>load the same page over and over. For example I use web banking. As I >>load that page the memory grows. Go into a menu the memory grows, go >>back to the main summary page, the memory grows etc. >> >>Firefox does NOT do that, and in fact (I tested this) on my machine >>simply stops growing at all at about 57mb of total memory use. That in >>and of itself is a huge reason to select Firefox over Opera. I must >>say at the moment I prefer Opera's user interface over Firefox. I like >>the persistent bookmarks window that you can open off to the left hand >>side that provides an "always visible" tree of bookmark folders. Of >>course I have a new laptop with a 1200x800 screen with extra width to >>use this feature. It would probably not be as useful at the normal CRT >>screen resolutions. >> >>I also like the wand that allows me to record username / password for a >>given page and just click the button to apply them. In the end though, >>a browser has to be a little thriftier with memory. One of many >>reasons I started looking for an alternative to IE was the fact that >>I'd have 3 or 4 copies of IE open, each using 30-40 mb or RAM. That's >>just ridiculous. Opera using 120mb is ridiculous as well. If I could >>figure out how to cap its memory usage I'd probably stick with it. If >>I can't I will likely move on to Firefox and get used to its user >>interface. >> >>John W. Colby >>www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- -Francisco From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 28 18:01:07 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:01:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience In-Reply-To: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4B93@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com> Message-ID: <005501c474f6$c787d040$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Let me know if it helps. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Porter, Mark Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 5:17 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience Thanks, my 2GHz phone is sitting ON my wireless 4 port. I don't have a lot of wirless laptop usage, but my range is abysmal. I'll try moving it. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > John W. Colby > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:28 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience > > > Yea, unfortunately I threw away all my 900 mhz phones (they > were awful), and > then spent $150 on a new two handset 2ghz set BEFORE even > looking at the > wireless router. If you know anything about power though, > you know that > power diminishes at the square of the distance, thus simply moving two > transmitters as far apart as possible is going to help reduce > interference > between the two. And of course, I knew this. ;-) I didn't > really know I > had an interference problem, or not enough to worry about > trying to move > things around. After all, everything worked. > > In my case I had the two within about two feet of each other, > and at times > about a foot apart. The only reason I didn't do this sooner is that I > wanted the phone handset cradle on my desk. I'll live with > it where it is > given the performance increase of my WAN. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Scott Marcus > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:24 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience > > > That's why all my cordless phones are 900mhz. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > John W. Colby > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:14 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] WAN - Interesting experience > > > I have an internet phone - regular 2ghz wireless phone > connected to a "phone > modem" - Vonage. I have a wireless LAN. I had heard about > interactions > between the two, but mostly of the "can't connect to the LAN" variety. > > I had a regular 4 port router, then purchased a 4 port with > wireless router > which I got hooked up and functioning. I then later added > the internet > phone. All in my office in the basement of my house. The > wireless phone > base (transmitter) was within a couple of feet of the wireless router. > Everything worked. I had an old slow laptop and never really > noticed any > problems, I could connect, my phone conversations > occasionally dropped bits > but I expect that, this is internet phone after all. > > I got a new laptop with 802.11g built in. The old wireless > router is only b > so it worked but only b. It was not lightning fast but fast > enough. The > range wasn't really great though. > > I finally decided last night to move the wireless phone base > / transmitter. > I moved it about 12 feet away from the wall where the > wireless router sits. > My new laptop doubled or even tripled it's apparent speed, > i.e. the time it > takes to finish opening a complex site such as msnbc or bestbuy. My > apparent range just about doubled as well. Previously I was > unable to even > use my laptop inside the RV parked in the driveway at the far > end of my > house - 75 feet or so through several walls. Now I am > getting 2mbit link > and an entirely satisfactory experience using the laptop there. > > What a difference 12 feet makes! If you are getting poor > performance from > your wireless, look at what you have where and try moving > things around. It > sure helped me. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > **************************************************************************** ******* 28/7/2004 This transmittal may contain confidential information intended solely for the addressee. 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The infamous Dell tech support. You should send that to DELL. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 4:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story A dell story Order a new DELL XPS on Friday, arrived TODAY. Wonderful says I, what service. XP Home installed. Ran an upgrade to XP PRO and got a core dump. Rang Dell tech support You cant do that says some guy, you need to buy a proper OEM XP Pro CD from Dell for ?181 UK Crap! I fixed the problem myself and upgraded. No USB Support following the upgrade. Rang Dell tech support You cant do that says some guy, you need to buy a proper OEM XP Pro CD from Dell for ?181 UK Crap Google on USB Not Working - first site up http://www.dylangreene.com/blog.asp?blogID=292 USB fixed, XP Pro up and running, all the preinstalled Dell software working, system flying along Dell tech support Zero - Google 100% above web site wonderful! Martin _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 18:30:28 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:30:28 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Opera memory usage In-Reply-To: <4108ADDA.8413.3C7101D@lexacorp.com.pg> References: <002b01c474b3$3b5daf60$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> <4108ADDA.8413.3C7101D@lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <41083714.7010703@verizon.net> Stuart McLachlan wrote On 7/28/2004 2:57 PM: >On 28 Jul 2004 at 10:32, Francisco H Tapia wrote: > > > >>in firefox ver .9.2: >>The treeview bookmark window on the left hand side is a feature of >>Firefox, it doesn't automatically open up, but once you do, it is always >>on until you close it, so your screen would be slated into 2 portions, >>the left bookmark side and the right browser page. I'm surprised you >>hadn't seen this before, Using the default firefox skin, the button you >>want to click is to the right of the "Next" arrow button (points >>right). it looks like a page w/ a bookmark on it, click it once and it >>opens up this treeview interface you were talking about. >> >> >> >> >It's not on my default. > >I added it with Right Click-Customize. >When I selected "Restore Default Set" on the Customize page, it was removed. > > > > yup you're right, somehow i've gotten used to seeing it there, I forgot when I set this up, but it must have been the very first thing I did w/ FireFox .8 or so... :| -- -Francisco From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Wed Jul 28 21:10:04 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:40:04 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011EA6@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> Well they're not going to support downloading drivers off the net are they? It would be stupid if they did. That's why they provide the CD. -----Original Message----- From: Martin Reid [mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2004 6:27 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story A dell story Order a new DELL XPS on Friday, arrived TODAY. Wonderful says I, what service. XP Home installed. Ran an upgrade to XP PRO and got a core dump. Rang Dell tech support You cant do that says some guy, you need to buy a proper OEM XP Pro CD from Dell for ?181 UK Crap! I fixed the problem myself and upgraded. No USB Support following the upgrade. Rang Dell tech support You cant do that says some guy, you need to buy a proper OEM XP Pro CD from Dell for ?181 UK Crap Google on USB Not Working - first site up http://www.dylangreene.com/blog.asp?blogID=292 USB fixed, XP Pro up and running, all the preinstalled Dell software working, system flying along Dell tech support Zero - Google 100% above web site wonderful! 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From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 29 02:39:09 2004 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:39:09 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011EA6@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> References: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011EA6@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> Message-ID: <1863330208.20040729093909@cactus.dk> Hi Andrew We had a client with a notebook. Some drivers were needed and we had to fight our way through the Dell "support" using all our "pro" power. If the client had been a user on his own, I'm not sure he could have managed. That's one of the reason we recommend not buying Dell. The unreliable delivery times is another. /gustav > Date: 2004-07-29 04:10 > Well they're not going to support downloading drivers off the net are they? > It would be stupid if they did. > That's why they provide the CD. From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Thu Jul 29 03:37:29 2004 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:37:29 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story References: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2011EA6@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> <1863330208.20040729093909@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <000b01c47547$49e9bf80$2702a8c0@Martin> Andrew There were no drivers involved. The point is It is possible to upgrade to XP pro without buying a disc of Dell The fix is very simple once you know how., Turns out that during an upgrade the Dell USB drivers are not installed by the software. It appears to be an issue Dell tech support would be awafe of. Unless they simply want you to buy a new disc from them of course. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story > Hi Andrew > > We had a client with a notebook. Some drivers were needed and we had > to fight our way through the Dell "support" using all our "pro" power. > > If the client had been a user on his own, I'm not sure he could have > managed. That's one of the reason we recommend not buying Dell. > The unreliable delivery times is another. > > /gustav > > > > Date: 2004-07-29 04:10 > > > Well they're not going to support downloading drivers off the net are they? > > It would be stupid if they did. > > > That's why they provide the CD. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 29 03:48:01 2004 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:48:01 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Optimal use of multiple ancient boxes In-Reply-To: <014301c474cb$f68d8770$6601a8c0@rock> References: <014301c474cb$f68d8770$6601a8c0@rock> Message-ID: <387461959.20040729104801@cactus.dk> Hi Arthur Sounds more like a command center than the workplace of ours ... Anyway, if the Compaq server is up to speed, keep it while it is OK. As for the disks, the minimum size today for new install is 36 GB which means that 18 GB drives are pretty cheap and 9 GB are only available as surplus suppliers. As for your setup I would recommend having one or some machines as servers (file and print; and anything else: database, ftp, web) and one or some machines as workstations. The mix is determined by your demand, but the idea is to split the two functions and skip all peer-to-peer connections because that clears up the situation: where is what? It will always be on a server. Further, you can install or reinstall any workstation without interfering with another workstation. As for the setup of server and users I believe tutorials are available around if no list members are at hand (William knows about the Windows server). This is not my area so I don't. It's a good idea to move some specialized functions like cd-burning to another machine than your primary workstation. If you need access to all email for all user accounts from all workstations, you need a mail server. I (and Stuart I'm sure) will recommend Mercury/32 which is extremely modest regarding hardware. /gustav > Date: 2004-07-28 19:54 > As a member of all the dba lists, I'm all too aware that I'm not the > sharpest knife in the drawer :) So in that spirit, I'd like to poll the > members on this question: > Given X PCs (in my case 3), none SOTA (state of the art), how should I > be thinking of distributing tasks and resources (and also users) across > them? So far my tendency has been to put the fancy stuff (such as dvd+cd > burner) on the fastest box, my development machine. But I'm beginning to > think that this is stupid; that I should move the burner to one of the > slow boxes (they're all quick enough to run wxp), so that I'm not > wasting cycles on my development box doing things like backing up data > to the dvd or violating various music copyrights :) The old boxes don't > do much more than sit there, most of the time. They both run different > versions of Linux as well as wxp, but I only play around with Linux, I'm > far from expert in its use -- it's just a learning experience for me. > I should mention that I also have a pretty ancient Compaq server, with > RAID and twin 400-Mz CPUs, that runs Win Advanced Server 2k. Mostly it > runs nothing but SQL Server 2000 and the 2005 beta. It has mere 18GB > hard disks and that's not likely to change, given the cost of replacing > 5 drives. > 1. I'd like to add Terminal Services to the server so I can demonstrate > to clients how that works when running an Access app. > 2. I want to set up an ftp server (now that I finally understand how to > make it work behind a firewall! Like I said, not the sharpest knife). > Should I put it on the server? There aren't a lot of free GB there, but > I could easily point the server to look for its files on another machine > where there is a big disk available. The ftp server is not really for > public consumption; more like various clients, project collaborators, > colleagues and friends -- passworded entry, no anonymous login, users > profiled to grant and deny various directories -- that sort of thing. > 3. My three boxes are located in a U-shape so that I just spin 90 > degrees and address each one. I try to install apps "chronologically" > according to the abilities of the boxes, i.e., the oldest apps run on > the slowest box (Access 97 is installed only on the oldest box) and > conversely. Some necessary things are installed on every box (i.e., > Office). > 4. I built this "notwork" up step by step, with virtually no knowledge > of how to set up a network. The result, as you might guess, sucks. I > could bore you further with the details, but instead I'd rather ask how > I get from this mess to where I want to be: > a) any user can use any machine, and get her/his profile, > directory access, Outlook.pst, etc. > b) currently it's all screwed up; from one particular box I can > see everything I need to see. Every other box sees parts of the > configuration, and none sees all. I think there is a wizard that will > let me copy the good config to all the other boxes, but I forget what > it's called. > c) should the server contain the instances of software such as > Office, so that I update only one instance and every user hits that > single instance using a shortcut? I.e., shortcut to > \\server\folder\msaccess.exe "MDB2hit". I confess that I have no idea > how this stuff is done. I have worked in places where it was already > working when I got there, so I didn't learn the details. What I knew was > that I could log on from any workstation and get my Office menu, my > Outlook file, my database tools and so on. Didn't matter which station I > used. I entered my uid and pswd and that was that. That's what I want to > build here at home. I realize that there's an issue lurking within: what > happens when I open Outlook from Station A, don't close it, and then > open it from Station B? I don't know. Maybe the rule is that I have to > close station A before opening B. In the ideal world, I wouldn't have to > think about this -- each station's instance would automatically refresh. > 5. I screwed everything up in the various chronological installations. > When Setup asked me for a domain name, I thought that it meant I needed > to have an existing URL. On another box it's registered under WorkGroup. > I want to blow all these definitions away and create domain "D" and then > place all the boxes in said domain, so that any user can logon to any > box and see her stuff, according to her profile (i.e. users Arthur and > Audra administrators and can do anything, while users Howard and Denny > are mere lUsers and cannot shoot themselves in the foot). > How can I get from here to there? Do I have to nuke everything and > everyone and rebuild from scratch? > Any advice from gurus who can turn "notworks" into "networks" profoundly > appreciated. > Arthur From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au Thu Jul 29 04:51:51 2004 From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:21:51 +0930 Subject: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2013939@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> OK thats fair enough. Coming from a role where I worked partly on the helpdesk, I can appreciate how its almost impossible 'support' every possible combination of hardware/software etc (as well as certain people...). It would be suicide to recommend or direct users to thrid party sites or solutions. You are aware that you can download all the drivers from the Dell support website yourself, free of chanrge, without spending any money? We've had no problems with Dell. Their delivery times and support have been excellent (Australia). Replacement parts / technicians often arive the same day to fix or replace parts. Depends on individuals experiences... Cheers, Andrew _____ From: Martin Reid [mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk] Sent: Thu 29/07/2004 6:07 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story Andrew There were no drivers involved. The point is It is possible to upgrade to XP pro without buying a disc of Dell The fix is very simple once you know how., Turns out that during an upgrade the Dell USB drivers are not installed by the software. It appears to be an issue Dell tech support would be awafe of. Unless they simply want you to buy a new disc from them of course. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A DELL TECH Support Story > Hi Andrew > > We had a client with a notebook. Some drivers were needed and we had > to fight our way through the Dell "support" using all our "pro" power. > > If the client had been a user on his own, I'm not sure he could have > managed. That's one of the reason we recommend not buying Dell. > The unreliable delivery times is another. > > /gustav > > > > Date: 2004-07-29 04:10 > > > Well they're not going to support downloading drivers off the net are they? > > It would be stupid if they did. > > > That's why they provide the CD. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. They are provided on the basis the user assumes all responsibility for loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from their use, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com Thu Jul 29 07:20:53 2004 From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:20:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] 5 mbit/sec bandwidth Was: Using 2 WAN routers Message-ID: Speaking of "5 mbit/sec bandwidth"... My local cable provider (COX) just started advertising their "premium" service. Currently service is ~$40 for 3 mbit/sec bandwidth. The "premium" service is ~$80 for 4 mbit/sec bandwidth. Who came up with that pricing model? Completely rhetorical in my case, but who would pay 100% more money for a 33% increase in service? Mark -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers LOL, yea but I love in the country. I have scanned using netstumbler and all is deathly quiet around me. Because of my location, I am on a cable leg with virtually no other web users. I get almost 5 mbit/sec bandwidth. 8-)) John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:26 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers yes, you can specify the channels at both the router and the receiver, but then you've got two channels to be interfered with by your neighbours wlans :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: 28 July 2004 16:17 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Does anyone know if it is possible to use two WAN routers. I have an old 802.11B router and want to get a new 802.11g router. It would be nice to set up both and have the wife's laptop (using the B protocol) use the existing router and my laptop (using the G protocol) use the new router. I know that you can specify the channel number at the router, but can you nail down the channel number at the receiving end? IOW force the old laptop to use channel 9 and my laptop to use channel 2 (or something like that). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Jul 29 08:01:07 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:01:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] 5 mbit/sec bandwidth Was: Using 2 WAN routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000e01c4756c$20562210$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> I forsee a future where the $40 will only get you 1 mbit. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:21 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] 5 mbit/sec bandwidth Was: Using 2 WAN routers Speaking of "5 mbit/sec bandwidth"... My local cable provider (COX) just started advertising their "premium" service. Currently service is ~$40 for 3 mbit/sec bandwidth. The "premium" service is ~$80 for 4 mbit/sec bandwidth. Who came up with that pricing model? Completely rhetorical in my case, but who would pay 100% more money for a 33% increase in service? Mark -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers LOL, yea but I love in the country. I have scanned using netstumbler and all is deathly quiet around me. Because of my location, I am on a cable leg with virtually no other web users. I get almost 5 mbit/sec bandwidth. 8-)) John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:26 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers yes, you can specify the channels at both the router and the receiver, but then you've got two channels to be interfered with by your neighbours wlans :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: 28 July 2004 16:17 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Does anyone know if it is possible to use two WAN routers. I have an old 802.11B router and want to get a new 802.11g router. It would be nice to set up both and have the wife's laptop (using the B protocol) use the existing router and my laptop (using the G protocol) use the new router. I know that you can specify the channel number at the router, but can you nail down the channel number at the receiving end? IOW force the old laptop to use channel 9 and my laptop to use channel 2 (or something like that). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com Thu Jul 29 11:22:20 2004 From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:22:20 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] 5 mbit/sec bandwidth Was: Using 2 WAN routers Message-ID: John, I'm sure William would agree with me here;) that true competition doesn't really occur until you have multiple suppliers offering comparative products/reliability/service. Currently, I don't see that happening...at least in my area. Overall I see my broadband choices as cable, DSL, or satellite. But I find it hard to compare these service providers on an equal basis. Like William, I am waiting on BPL, but for a different reason...competition. I'm also looking forward to affordable wLAN technology to improve...WiMAX is a good start. Done correctly and efficiently, we might be able to return to the days of a truly local provider that services only hundreds, perhaps thousands of customers...not the huge conglomerates that currently roam the landscape. That, in my opinion, is true competition, not a duopoly or oligopoly, and would drop the prices considerably. ...and while I agree that bandwidth may be finite, which would suggest an ever increasing price based on demand, I foresee much more innovation in the available choices which hopefully places your prediction farther into the future;) Mark -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:01 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] 5 mbit/sec bandwidth Was: Using 2 WAN routers I forsee a future where the $40 will only get you 1 mbit. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:21 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] 5 mbit/sec bandwidth Was: Using 2 WAN routers Speaking of "5 mbit/sec bandwidth"... My local cable provider (COX) just started advertising their "premium" service. Currently service is ~$40 for 3 mbit/sec bandwidth. The "premium" service is ~$80 for 4 mbit/sec bandwidth. Who came up with that pricing model? Completely rhetorical in my case, but who would pay 100% more money for a 33% increase in service? Mark -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers LOL, yea but I love in the country. I have scanned using netstumbler and all is deathly quiet around me. Because of my location, I am on a cable leg with virtually no other web users. I get almost 5 mbit/sec bandwidth. 8-)) John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:26 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers yes, you can specify the channels at both the router and the receiver, but then you've got two channels to be interfered with by your neighbours wlans :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: 28 July 2004 16:17 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using 2 WAN routers Does anyone know if it is possible to use two WAN routers. I have an old 802.11B router and want to get a new 802.11g router. It would be nice to set up both and have the wife's laptop (using the B protocol) use the existing router and my laptop (using the G protocol) use the new router. I know that you can specify the channel number at the router, but can you nail down the channel number at the receiving end? IOW force the old laptop to use channel 9 and my laptop to use channel 2 (or something like that). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. 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If so, how'd it work out? John B. From john at winhaven.net Thu Jul 29 13:22:09 2004 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:22:09 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Optimal use of multiple ancient boxes In-Reply-To: <387461959.20040729104801@cactus.dk> Message-ID: Arthur, I concur with Gustav. It is the method I use in my office. I have 3 workstations, a mobile unit (laptop) and an older Dell server with 1GB RAM and four hard drives, 3 9GB SCSI and 1 120GB ATA). Tape backup unit is on the server. Printing runs off the server. Files are kept on the big drive on the server. I only use local files when do DTP/Graphics work and when done send it to the server's shred drive. SQL is on the server. Being that are only two users at any given time on my office network the server can handle this. Also backups are scheduled at night so I never see the drag it causes (unless I'm working late). Using the server for printing really makes a difference! My CD burning is done on #2 workstation (which also runs my MusicMatch Jukebox). Burning really drags application performance down and I wouldn't be able to work efficiently on the workstation while burning a CD. I would add that I use a KVM switch so that I only need to have one Keyboard/Monitor/Mouse for the whole lot. I can also share USB devices through my KVM. I have units like zip drives shared off of the server because I think that might get a bit odd trying to switch between them with the KVM. (Inevitably I'd start writing to a zip disk switch workstations and try writing form there too!) When servicing clients PCs and able to bring them offsite I hook them into the KVM also. Once I'm certain they're safe I can add them to the network either via cable or wireless - whichever they have available. HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:48 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Optimal use of multiple ancient boxes Hi Arthur Sounds more like a command center than the workplace of ours ... Anyway, if the Compaq server is up to speed, keep it while it is OK. As for the disks, the minimum size today for new install is 36 GB which means that 18 GB drives are pretty cheap and 9 GB are only available as surplus suppliers. As for your setup I would recommend having one or some machines as servers (file and print; and anything else: database, ftp, web) and one or some machines as workstations. The mix is determined by your demand, but the idea is to split the two functions and skip all peer-to-peer connections because that clears up the situation: where is what? It will always be on a server. Further, you can install or reinstall any workstation without interfering with another workstation. As for the setup of server and users I believe tutorials are available around if no list members are at hand (William knows about the Windows server). This is not my area so I don't. It's a good idea to move some specialized functions like cd-burning to another machine than your primary workstation. If you need access to all email for all user accounts from all workstations, you need a mail server. I (and Stuart I'm sure) will recommend Mercury/32 which is extremely modest regarding hardware. /gustav > Date: 2004-07-28 19:54 > As a member of all the dba lists, I'm all too aware that I'm not the > sharpest knife in the drawer :) So in that spirit, I'd like to poll the > members on this question: > Given X PCs (in my case 3), none SOTA (state of the art), how should I > be thinking of distributing tasks and resources (and also users) across > them? So far my tendency has been to put the fancy stuff (such as dvd+cd > burner) on the fastest box, my development machine. But I'm beginning to > think that this is stupid; that I should move the burner to one of the > slow boxes (they're all quick enough to run wxp), so that I'm not > wasting cycles on my development box doing things like backing up data > to the dvd or violating various music copyrights :) The old boxes don't > do much more than sit there, most of the time. They both run different > versions of Linux as well as wxp, but I only play around with Linux, I'm > far from expert in its use -- it's just a learning experience for me. > I should mention that I also have a pretty ancient Compaq server, with > RAID and twin 400-Mz CPUs, that runs Win Advanced Server 2k. Mostly it > runs nothing but SQL Server 2000 and the 2005 beta. It has mere 18GB > hard disks and that's not likely to change, given the cost of replacing > 5 drives. > 1. I'd like to add Terminal Services to the server so I can demonstrate > to clients how that works when running an Access app. > 2. I want to set up an ftp server (now that I finally understand how to > make it work behind a firewall! Like I said, not the sharpest knife). > Should I put it on the server? There aren't a lot of free GB there, but > I could easily point the server to look for its files on another machine > where there is a big disk available. The ftp server is not really for > public consumption; more like various clients, project collaborators, > colleagues and friends -- passworded entry, no anonymous login, users > profiled to grant and deny various directories -- that sort of thing. > 3. My three boxes are located in a U-shape so that I just spin 90 > degrees and address each one. I try to install apps "chronologically" > according to the abilities of the boxes, i.e., the oldest apps run on > the slowest box (Access 97 is installed only on the oldest box) and > conversely. Some necessary things are installed on every box (i.e., > Office). > 4. I built this "notwork" up step by step, with virtually no knowledge > of how to set up a network. The result, as you might guess, sucks. I > could bore you further with the details, but instead I'd rather ask how > I get from this mess to where I want to be: > a) any user can use any machine, and get her/his profile, > directory access, Outlook.pst, etc. > b) currently it's all screwed up; from one particular box I can > see everything I need to see. Every other box sees parts of the > configuration, and none sees all. I think there is a wizard that will > let me copy the good config to all the other boxes, but I forget what > it's called. > c) should the server contain the instances of software such as > Office, so that I update only one instance and every user hits that > single instance using a shortcut? I.e., shortcut to > \\server\folder\msaccess.exe "MDB2hit". I confess that I have no idea > how this stuff is done. I have worked in places where it was already > working when I got there, so I didn't learn the details. What I knew was > that I could log on from any workstation and get my Office menu, my > Outlook file, my database tools and so on. Didn't matter which station I > used. I entered my uid and pswd and that was that. That's what I want to > build here at home. I realize that there's an issue lurking within: what > happens when I open Outlook from Station A, don't close it, and then > open it from Station B? I don't know. Maybe the rule is that I have to > close station A before opening B. In the ideal world, I wouldn't have to > think about this -- each station's instance would automatically refresh. > 5. I screwed everything up in the various chronological installations. > When Setup asked me for a domain name, I thought that it meant I needed > to have an existing URL. On another box it's registered under WorkGroup. > I want to blow all these definitions away and create domain "D" and then > place all the boxes in said domain, so that any user can logon to any > box and see her stuff, according to her profile (i.e. users Arthur and > Audra administrators and can do anything, while users Howard and Denny > are mere lUsers and cannot shoot themselves in the foot). > How can I get from here to there? Do I have to nuke everything and > everyone and rebuild from scratch? > Any advice from gurus who can turn "notworks" into "networks" profoundly > appreciated. > Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Thu Jul 29 14:16:51 2004 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:16:51 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox SavePwd extentions Message-ID: <41094D23.8060400@verizon.net> John, I've been keeping my eye open for something that would always save your pwd so you didn't have to re-type it if you re-loaded a page and I ran into these extentions for Firefox... http://extensions.roachfiend.com/ -- -Francisco From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Jul 29 14:46:12 2004 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:46:12 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox SavePwd extentions In-Reply-To: <41094D23.8060400@verizon.net> Message-ID: <002601c475a4$b6e65050$80b3fea9@ColbyM6805> Thanks It appears that as a page loads Firefox loads the username / password if you have told it to save it. Thus if the logout process reloads the login page these fields get reloaded automatically. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:17 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox SavePwd extentions John, I've been keeping my eye open for something that would always save your pwd so you didn't have to re-type it if you re-loaded a page and I ran into these extentions for Firefox... http://extensions.roachfiend.com/ -- -Francisco _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com