[dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation

Jon Tydda Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk
Thu Jun 3 09:23:34 CDT 2004


No, sorry - I was agreeing with you on building desktops :-)

with a small box presumably :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: DJK(John) Robinson [mailto:djkr at msn.com]
Sent: 03 June 2004 15:19
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation


I build my own desktops, but I've never built a LAPTOP!  Where do you
start??

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 03 June 2004 15:08
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation
> 
> 
> Yeah, I've always built my own, and other people's too. But 
> if they wanted something with a warranty, I tell them to buy 
> a Dell, from the factory outlet. I was considering doing that 
> myself, but it's always nice to say "I did that"...
> 
> Also I know where I am with Intel stuff - you look at the fsb 
> of the chip, and make sure the motherboard and memory match 
> it... I don't know that with AMD, and I've never used an AMD, 
> so unless there's a huge difference to be had, I'm not one 
> for changing :-) I also like to know where I am with the 
> numbers... my office desktop is a P4-1.6, which runs at 
> 1.65ghz, my friends AMD 2800 runs at 2.01ghz - he was most 
> upset to find out that it wasn't the 2.8 he'd paid for.
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jwcolby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: 03 June 2004 14:58
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation
> 
> 
> Jon,
> 
> Here in the US there is a company called NewEgg.com that 
> sells everything about as cheap as you'll find it.  If you 
> insist on intel (bad boy!) then you are going to pay more for 
> less.  If you will go with AMD then (here in the USA) I can 
> get motherboards and processors for cheap.  In the end 
> though, it's tough to beat a brand new system from Dell when 
> they are having their sales.  I found entire systems for 
> under $450 (minus monitors) right after Christmas when they 
> were dumping inventory.
> 
> I always build my own though.  
> 
> Today you can get a high end AMD motherboard ($150), AMD 2500 
> barton ($80), 512 m memory ($120), 160g hd ($95).  
> 
> That's a pretty nice system for not too much - assuming you 
> are upgrading and your power supply will handle the load.
> 
> John W. Colby 
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:35 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation
> 
> 
> Rocky
> 
> Speaking in my capacity as a techy/notwork guy/fiddler, 
> you'll need 512mb RAM as a minimum for any pc now. The mobile 
> chip is up to you - I got an 11mb PCMCIA wifi card for $10 
> from Ebay, so that costs nothing in comparison. Starcraft 
> runs on my p3-500 pc, so anything over that will suit Max, 
> but if he's going to upgrade his games, you might want to 
> consider a vaguely hefty graphics card - really anything with 
> 128mb of RAM on it will do.
> 
> The speedstep technology is good though - increases battery 
> life and performance through using less power etc when the 
> laptop isn't plugged into the mains. 
> 
> Through looking to buy a "cheap" system on the internet, I've 
> found that you can't build a pc for much cheaper than £600, 
> because they stop selling the low end chips... I wanted to 
> get a "cheapish" motherboard and P4 (ie a 1.4 or so) to 
> upgrade my pc, spending about £150-200, but you can't buy 
> them anymore... so stupid... I don't want to spend £600 on a 
> new pc yet.
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: 03 June 2004 14:21
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation
> 
> 
> Francisco:
> 
> Well, sorry, finally getting back to this thread.  I have two 
> boys 7 & 14 and they share a machine right now - a rather 
> pokey Celeron tower. The big guy, Max, starts high school in 
> September and it's time for him to have a machine of his own.
> 
> He'll just be doing mostly word processing, email, and 
> internet research. Likes to play Starcraft on line but he can 
> use the other box for that.
> 
> Although I've resisted it (I work at home and DON'T WANT to 
> be able to work anywhere), I'm thinking a laptop would have 
> some uses for me as well as my wife, the writer.
> 
> So it's got to be powerful enough to do Access development, 
> although I'll only be using it when I travel which is not much.
> 
> The idea of the mobile chip is attractive because you can sit 
> down in a coffeehouse anywhere and be on the internet.  But I 
> suppose you can just get a PCMCIA Access Point and that will 
> do the same thing?
> 
> Fry's was pushing the Sony Vaio the other day for about $1200 
> with 512mb RAM, DVD, etc.
> 
> Dell looks like they've got some good deals now.
> 
> So that's the motivation and the needs.  What's everybody think?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation
> 
> 
> > You're gonna receive a whole lotta responses Rocky.  Maybe providing
> > more information on what you expect your laptop to be able to do?
> >
> > - Development work
> > - DVD viewing
> > - a lot of wireless work
> > - Play video games
> > - etc...
> >
> > The Alienware solution is really more for people who are 
> gamers, it is
> 
> > a very sweet system, but if you're not gonna game, then the 3d video
> > card is going to waste... know what I mean?
> >
> >
> > Jon Tydda wrote On 6/1/2004 2:00 PM:
> >
> > >check out the Alienware Area-51m... awesome...
> > >
> > >
> > >Jon
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at artfulsoftware.com>
> > >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> > ><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:14 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation
> > >
> > >
> > >My understanding is that M better than 4 for lightweight. 
> IMO Toshiba
> gives
> > >more bang for the laptop buck, though.
> > >
> > >PB.


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