[dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation

Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com
Mon Oct 25 09:46:54 CDT 2004


Thanks for the feedback.  In the past, I would have agreed, but this model,
in particular, hopefully addresses both of those issues.  They use an
integrated liquid-cooling block to keep down on the noise, and 32db, 240
watt power supply.  With only a video card, 1 optical drive, and 1 hard
drive, the 240 Watt power supply should be more than sufficient.
http://us.shuttle.com/SN95G5.asp


Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:05 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation


I would be leery about the power requirements for you system spec on a small
footprint system. Most small form factor systems have a relatively small
power supply or they did the last time that I looked at one. Also, the fans
in small footprint systems are rather noisy.
> 
> From: "Mitsules, Mark S. \(Newport News\)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
> Date: 2004/10/25 Mon AM 08:30:50 EDT
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> 	<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation
> 
> Speaking of cases...does anyone have any experience with the small form
> factor cases...specifically, Shuttle?  I've grown weary over the past few
> years of having this huge tower on my desk.  Space isn't the issue, my
desk
> is huge, I'm just looking at clean-looking alternatives. Here is my
current
> (achievable) wish-list.  The processor is the least expensive option
> available in that performance line, giving me plenty of room for future
> upgrades.  I should mention that this would be primarily a gaming machine,
> hence the small, screamingly fast hard drive.  Any comments?
> 
> 
> $319  Shuttle XPC Black Barebone System
>       for Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 CPU,
>       Model SN95G5, nVidia nForce 3.
> 
> $179  AMD 3000 90nm 939pin
> 
> $170  1GB PC-4200 DDR533 RAM
> 
> $180  Western Digital Raptor 740GD
>       74GB SATA 10K rpm 8MB Hard Drive
> ____
> $848  Total
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:29 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> I bought a bunch of stuff from NewEgg recently to build a new machine and
> upgrade an existing one. I've been buying pairs of drives for the past
> several years to allow for a Ghosted backup. A pair of 160 GB drives from
> NewEgg was $192.
> 
> One caveat: if there's something flaky with your motherboard you've got to
> do the RMA yourself. I bought a Gigabyte board for my wife's workstation.
> Everything works fine EXCEPT that when the machine is started cold it
> doesn't recognize the 2nd hard disk. My wife is now used to going into
Setup
> and having the motherboard detect the 2nd drive automagically. I didn't
want
> to hassle with sending the board back to Gigabyte -- NewEgg doesn't do any
> product support; thus their low prices.
> 
> It might be the drive; but all I'm saying is that if you assemble these
> things yourself then you don't have the luxury of pulling another
> motherboard or hard disk off the shelf to replace a bad one.
> 
> Steve
> 
> P.S., Steer clear of Enermax cases.
> 
> > ------------Original Message------------
> > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Date: Tue, Oct-19-2004 6:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation
> > 
> > Building is always a good idea.  You might not be able to put a new mb 
> > in
> > that chassis (HP used to design their stuff to prevent that) but if you 
> > buy
> > an inexpensive case you can use the drives and stuff from the old 
> > machine in
> > your new machine.  You already have a monitor / keyboard.  The new
> > motherboards have almost everything else.  You can even find 
> > motherboards
> > with a video chip on the mb.  Good enough to get you by, perhaps 
> > forever.
> 
> 
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