From shamil at users.mns.ru Fri Apr 1 15:06:13 2005
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 01:06:13 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: 1st of April Joke - Microsoft unveils new
refactoring tool: CSCop
Message-ID: <001c01c536fe$a5fafe50$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
http://weblogs.asp.net/ralfw/archive/2005/04/01/396606.aspx
Shamil :)
From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be Mon Apr 4 09:49:22 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:49:22 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Powerpoint animated slide to AVI of MPEG?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B598F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Hi Group
I have this one powerpoint slide with animation on it that I want to put
in an AVI or MPEG file.
I don't see how I can do that from Powerpoint (2003).
Anybody done this before?
Erwin Craps
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be Mon Apr 4 10:15:42 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:15:42 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Powerpoint animated slide to AVI of MPEG? SOLVED
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5990@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
I just found out that my Coreldraw 12 screen capture software also
captures animated screens into an AVI or Quicktime file.
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Powerpoint animated slide to AVI of MPEG?
Hi Group
I have this one powerpoint slide with animation on it that I want to put
in an AVI or MPEG file.
I don't see how I can do that from Powerpoint (2003).
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Tue Apr 5 06:29:39 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:29:39 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] SMTP error messages
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2698@ALCUXB>
Hi all
A user has asked me why our e-mails keep getting bounced from on particular
destination, and with a bit of investigation, I've found that all the
"bounces" are in fact error messages, simply saying "SMTP Error Code 554
Transaction Failed". I've spent the past half hour on the web trying to find
out precisely what this means, and have come up with absolutely nothing.
Does it just mean that it failed and no-one knows why? How do I fix it?
Jon
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be Tue Apr 5 06:44:31 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:44:31 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] SMTP error messages
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59A6@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
It is posible that the destination smtp server uses RDNS (reverse dns).
This means that, before actualy accepting a e-mail by the smtp server it
wil first check if the reverse dns of the e-mail domain corresponds with
the IP address from whom you are sending that e-mail.
If this reverse dns fails your e-mail will be rejected.
This can be resolved by asking your dns administrator (mostly your
domain registrar) to create a pointer to your fixed ip address.
But it can be something else to.
You could ask the destinator if they use reverse dns for SMTP.
Or maybe some kind of black and white listing could cause this to.
Erwin
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Subject: [dba-Tech] SMTP error messages
Hi all
A user has asked me why our e-mails keep getting bounced from on
particular destination, and with a bit of investigation, I've found that
all the "bounces" are in fact error messages, simply saying "SMTP Error
Code 554 Transaction Failed". I've spent the past half hour on the web
trying to find out precisely what this means, and have come up with
absolutely nothing.
Does it just mean that it failed and no-one knows why? How do I fix it?
Jon
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Tue Apr 5 06:51:50 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:51:50 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] SMTP error messages
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2699@ALCUXB>
Thanks Erwin, I'll delegate that upwards :-)
Jon
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Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] SMTP error messages
It is posible that the destination smtp server uses RDNS (reverse dns).
This means that, before actualy accepting a e-mail by the smtp server it
wil first check if the reverse dns of the e-mail domain corresponds with
the IP address from whom you are sending that e-mail.
If this reverse dns fails your e-mail will be rejected.
This can be resolved by asking your dns administrator (mostly your
domain registrar) to create a pointer to your fixed ip address.
But it can be something else to.
You could ask the destinator if they use reverse dns for SMTP.
Or maybe some kind of black and white listing could cause this to.
Erwin
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Subject: [dba-Tech] SMTP error messages
Hi all
A user has asked me why our e-mails keep getting bounced from on
particular destination, and with a bit of investigation, I've found that
all the "bounces" are in fact error messages, simply saying "SMTP Error
Code 554 Transaction Failed". I've spent the past half hour on the web
trying to find out precisely what this means, and have come up with
absolutely nothing.
Does it just mean that it failed and no-one knows why? How do I fix it?
Jon
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Apr 5 06:58:19 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:58:19 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] SMTP error messages
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2698@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <425309FB.16182.1070A16C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
On 5 Apr 2005 at 12:29, Jon Tydda wrote:
> Hi all
>
> A user has asked me why our e-mails keep getting bounced from on particular
> destination, and with a bit of investigation, I've found that all the
> "bounces" are in fact error messages, simply saying "SMTP Error Code 554
> Transaction Failed". I've spent the past half hour on the web trying to find
> out precisely what this means, and have come up with absolutely nothing.
> Does it just mean that it failed and no-one knows why? How do I fix it?
>
Unless the server gives more info, it's very difficult to find out why it
554'ed.
A lot depends on how you are sending your mail. If you have Port 25 access
to the internet (ie your ISP doesn't trap it and require you to go through
their servers), you can try telnetting into the rejecting server on Port
25, try to get it to accept a message and see what responses you get. You
would of course need to know how SMTP works and what commands to issue :-)
If you want to send me a copy (with complete headers) of an original
message and a bounce, I can look into it further for you.
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From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 5 11:38:55 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:38:55 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free copy of RealBasic
In-Reply-To: <001c01c536fe$a5fafe50$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
References: <001c01c536fe$a5fafe50$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <4252BF1F.3060000@rogers.com>
This was forwarded to me by my friend Pete Simpson. It's real.
Arthur,
I got me a free copy of RealBasic recently. You might feel like a copy for yourself.
If so, this link below will getcha there:
http://www.realbasic.com/vb6/index.php?id=KFWPPVLH
If I get enough hits from this, I might win a prize!
Pete.
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 5 12:11:13 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:11:13 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free copy of RealBasic
Message-ID:
Thanks Arthur
/gustav
>>> artful at rogers.com 04/05 6:38 pm >>>
This was forwarded to me by my friend Pete Simpson. It's real.
Arthur,
I got me a free copy of RealBasic recently. You might feel like a copy
for yourself.
If so, this link below will getcha there:
http://www.realbasic.com/vb6/index.php?id=KFWPPVLH
If I get enough hits from this, I might win a prize!
Pete.
From dwaters at usinternet.com Sun Apr 10 15:59:52 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:59:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Print Envelope From Outlook
Message-ID:
This would be a good function from Outlook. Open a contact, select Print
#10 envelope, select printer, and that's it!
Can this be done in Outlook? Or is there an add-in, custom form, or
something similar?
Dan Waters
From john at winhaven.net Mon Apr 11 09:31:52 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:31:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Terminal Services SP1 added print feature
Message-ID: <200504111432.j3BEVt28450056@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
FYI for TS users.
With little fanfare, Microsoft has added a new feature in Windows Server
2003 Service Pack 1 that makes life easier for admins dealing with printing
issues using Windows Terminal Services.
SearchWin2000.com recently conducted an e-mail interview with Terminal
Services and Citrix technology expert Stefan Vermeulen, who maintains the
site PrintingSupport.com, to discuss the printing feature.
http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050411TB-TS_Printing
From john at winhaven.net Tue Apr 12 10:04:44 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:04:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Time Sync
Message-ID: <200504121505.j3CF4lm2037338@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
Hi all,
I have a client with whom I'm setting up a mobil testing lab network. The
network is peer to peer with no server. Each computer has various pieces of
testing equipment attached to it that need to be accurately time
synchronized with each other. This lab will not be connected to the
internet.
I don't see a method to change the synchronization server in WinXP to use
another PC (only a domain server). I used to do time sync with NT server and
batch files but that was once a day a login. Given the discrepancies in
type/models of PCs, and the inherit unreliability of PC clocks, this would
probably need a constantly running process.
Any ideas?
John
From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Tue Apr 12 10:08:10 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:08:10 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Time Sync
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2720@ALCUXB>
Do a google search for atomic clocks or time servers... I used to have one
on my pc that updated itself 24 times a day, or whenever you set it, and you
could set it to connect to one of over 30 other atomic clock servers for
accuracy.
Jon
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From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 12 April 2005 16:05
To: _DBA-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Time Sync
Hi all,
I have a client with whom I'm setting up a mobil testing lab network. The
network is peer to peer with no server. Each computer has various pieces of
testing equipment attached to it that need to be accurately time
synchronized with each other. This lab will not be connected to the
internet.
I don't see a method to change the synchronization server in WinXP to use
another PC (only a domain server). I used to do time sync with NT server and
batch files but that was once a day a login. Given the discrepancies in
type/models of PCs, and the inherit unreliability of PC clocks, this would
probably need a constantly running process.
Any ideas?
John
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From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 12 10:21:49 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:21:49 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Time Sync
Message-ID:
Hi John
Use NetTime 2.0 on one of the machines as a "time server". This machine
may need to sync to the outside world; you could use a dial-up
connection for that:
http://nettime.sourceforge.net/
Note the net time clients are included with Win2000/XP as explained in
one of the links.
/gustav
>>> john at winhaven.net 04/12 5:04 pm >>>
Hi all,
I have a client with whom I'm setting up a mobil testing lab network.
The
network is peer to peer with no server. Each computer has various
pieces of
testing equipment attached to it that need to be accurately time
synchronized with each other. This lab will not be connected to the
internet.
I don't see a method to change the synchronization server in WinXP to
use
another PC (only a domain server). I used to do time sync with NT
server and
batch files but that was once a day a login. Given the discrepancies
in
type/models of PCs, and the inherit unreliability of PC clocks, this
would
probably need a constantly running process.
From shamil at users.mns.ru Tue Apr 12 12:10:10 2005
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:10:10 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Interesting(?) long-term project in Milwaukee,
Wisconsin, USA
Message-ID: <002201c53f82$7d5e5640$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Hi All,
Have a look at this URL who is living close to Milwaukee, Wisconsin (USA):
http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=267455
(watch line wraps).
Despite the fact the this is a RentACoder project it IMO looks interesting
and I guess should be paid rather well and this promise to be a long story
with continuation because customers as they say have a lot of MS Access
"silos" apps to upsize to .NET/Crystal Reports/MS SQL/Web...
That's a pity I'm not living somewhere there - I'd definitely bid for this
project...
If somebody here will try and bid and win this project I'd be glad to assist
with MS Access->Crystal Reports conversions and other stuff. I'm looking for
work these days... again....
Beware: this project and customers don't look simple! (I can be wrong)
Shamil
From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 12 14:50:27 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:50:27 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Grab RealAudio database
In-Reply-To: <002201c53f82$7d5e5640$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
References: <002201c53f82$7d5e5640$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <425C2683.2080009@rogers.com>
I just have the player, not the full version. I have recorded a bunch of
CDs and would like to capture the track info into a database. Can I do
this? If so, instructions, please.
I'm up to about 300 CDs now, about 1/3 of my collection. I would hate to
have to type in all this data that Real has captured for me!
>
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Apr 12 15:15:38 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:15:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Grab RealAudio database
In-Reply-To: <11469009.1113335527163.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID:
There is a program called CD Trustee ($20?) that uses an Access BE.
Dan Waters
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:50 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Grab RealAudio database
I just have the player, not the full version. I have recorded a bunch of
CDs and would like to capture the track info into a database. Can I do
this? If so, instructions, please.
I'm up to about 300 CDs now, about 1/3 of my collection. I would hate to
have to type in all this data that Real has captured for me!
>
>
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de Sat Apr 16 13:07:54 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:07:54 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] WinXP: change Drive Letter of CD-ROM
References:
Message-ID: <013601c542af$36541fc0$0800a8c0@s856>
does anybody know how to change the drove letter of a CD-ROM drive in WinXP?
thank you
Lembit
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Sat Apr 16 13:42:25 2005
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:42:25 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] WinXP: change Drive Letter of CD-ROM
In-Reply-To: <013601c542af$36541fc0$0800a8c0@s856>
Message-ID:
On 16 Apr 2005 at 20:07, Lembit Soobik wrote:
> does anybody know how to change the drove letter of a CD-ROM drive in
> WinXP?
Start| Control Panel | Administrative Tools| Computer Management
That will open up a window. In the left pane, select Storage | Disk
Management.
Then in one of the right panes right click on the drive you want to
change the drive letter of and select Change Drive Letter and Path...
Then in the new window, click the change button. and select your new
drive letter.
It will require a reboot to take effect, IIRC.
--
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A picture is worth a thousand words, but it uses up a thousand times
the memory.
From lembit.soobik at t-online.de Sun Apr 17 05:33:18 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:33:18 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] WinXP: change Drive Letter of CD-ROM
References:
Message-ID: <019101c54338$deb7bc60$0800a8c0@s856>
Great :),
thank you so much, Bryan
I was desperately searching in device manager, where it used to be.
well, need to save this instruction in a safe place
thanks again
Lembit
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From: "Bryan Carbonnell"
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WinXP: change Drive Letter of CD-ROM
> On 16 Apr 2005 at 20:07, Lembit Soobik wrote:
>
>> does anybody know how to change the drove letter of a CD-ROM drive in
>> WinXP?
>
> Start| Control Panel | Administrative Tools| Computer Management
>
> That will open up a window. In the left pane, select Storage | Disk
> Management.
>
> Then in one of the right panes right click on the drive you want to
> change the drive letter of and select Change Drive Letter and Path...
>
> Then in the new window, click the change button. and select your new
> drive letter.
>
> It will require a reboot to take effect, IIRC.
>
> --
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> A picture is worth a thousand words, but it uses up a thousand times
> the memory.
>
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From artful at rogers.com Mon Apr 18 10:18:40 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:18:40 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Grab RealAudio database
In-Reply-To:
References:
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Thanks for the lead. Grabbing it now. I'd rather write my own, but this
will do for the interim.
A.
Dan Waters wrote:
>There is a program called CD Trustee ($20?) that uses an Access BE.
>
>Dan Waters
>
>
>
>
From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 21 12:44:23 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:44:23 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Just being cheeky
In-Reply-To: <4263CFD0.3060002@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <000501c54699$c154d4f0$44550c54@minster33c3r25>
Hey folks
Anyone got a free Excel password recover? I've tried 5 and they all want
money. All I want to do is find the answers to a music quiz thingy, so it's
not worth paying for. Happy to send quiz to anyone by the way. Good fun.
Piccies of 270 bands from 60s onwards - my son and I have 260 and I need to
know the rest.
-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
From jon at tydda.plus.com Thu Apr 21 17:17:39 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:17:39 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Just being cheeky
In-Reply-To: <000501c54699$c154d4f0$44550c54@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID:
This is the one I use, pretty good it is too.
http://www.straxx.com/excel/password.html
By the way, is it the solo artists or the bands? I can send you the other
one if you want? :-)
Jon
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Sent: 21 April 2005 18:44
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Just being cheeky
Hey folks
Anyone got a free Excel password recover? I've tried 5 and they all want
money. All I want to do is find the answers to a music quiz thingy, so it's
not worth paying for. Happy to send quiz to anyone by the way. Good fun.
Piccies of 270 bands from 60s onwards - my son and I have 260 and I need to
know the rest.
-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
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From jon at tydda.plus.com Thu Apr 21 17:34:36 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:34:36 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Just being cheeky
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
oh, btw my score was 239... got the rest with help from my dad :-)
I can't remember my score on the other one, I'll find out tomorrow :-P
Jon
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Sent: 21 April 2005 23:18
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Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Just being cheeky
This is the one I use, pretty good it is too.
http://www.straxx.com/excel/password.html
By the way, is it the solo artists or the bands? I can send you the other
one if you want? :-)
Jon
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Sent: 21 April 2005 18:44
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Just being cheeky
Hey folks
Anyone got a free Excel password recover? I've tried 5 and they all want
money. All I want to do is find the answers to a music quiz thingy, so it's
not worth paying for. Happy to send quiz to anyone by the way. Good fun.
Piccies of 270 bands from 60s onwards - my son and I have 260 and I need to
know the rest.
-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Fri Apr 22 01:15:53 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:15:53 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Just being cheeky
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <000d01c54702$bd6a63a0$44550c54@minster33c3r25>
Great, thanks Jon. Worked a treat. It's the bands, and yes please to the
solo one. But if I send it to my son at uni that'll be a term's work stopped
in its tracks!
-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 21 April 2005 23:18
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Just being cheeky
>
>
> This is the one I use, pretty good it is too.
>
> http://www.straxx.com/excel/password.html
>
> By the way, is it the solo artists or the bands? I can send
> you the other one if you want? :-)
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: 21 April 2005 18:44
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Just being cheeky
>
>
> Hey folks
> Anyone got a free Excel password recover? I've tried 5 and
> they all want money. All I want to do is find the answers to
> a music quiz thingy, so it's not worth paying for. Happy to
> send quiz to anyone by the way. Good fun. Piccies of 270
> bands from 60s onwards - my son and I have 260 and I need to
> know the rest.
>
> -- Andy Lacey
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From shamil at users.mns.ru Fri Apr 29 07:01:42 2005
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:01:42 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday Humor: A new petition to support outdated(?)
technologies...
Message-ID: <00e501c54cb3$ae9192c0$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Hi All,
I'm a kind of changing my profession (:)) and I'm asking for your opinion of
this my first try to write a humoristic and slightly (hopefully slightly
only) sarcastic text - please go here if you have time:
http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/idlpetit.htm
and have a look and send me, please, your feedback privately
Any feedback is very welcome!
Honestly, I'm looking for setting long-term partnerships with somebody.
The recent my programming works are here:
http://www.code-vb.com/download.htm
(Help Generator set of Add-ins).
No, I'm not trying to promote this stuff for you to purchase it - I'm just
referring
it to show what was done here recently, off-shore, without any phone talks,
any business trips - just using e-mail ping-pong and in urgent cases MS
Messenger chatting to send short specs and to get back developed software.
Yes, I know, off-shore development isn't in favor there.
Should I leave my homeland and go there to maybe have better life and to
compete for the jobs with you there at your home?
Yes, the chances to land a better job look much higher in this
case(statistics) but I think I can do some very good stuff here, which I
will not be able to do there because it will cost more because of the higher
life costs and the higher taxes rates there.
Therefore, IMO, my off-shore development proposal is a fair business
proposal because I'm not going "sitting here" to compete with you there
using "dirt-cheap" dumping rates but I'm going to compete by proposing
slightly lower rates, which will open opportunities, which in other cases
will not be opened at all because they will be financially meaningless...
So, I propose to get into longterm cooperation to assist you in your
business and for you to assist me in my off-shore development freelance
business...
Thank you,
Shamil
P.S. Crossposted to Dba-OT. Will it reach it or not, I'm unsure about that,
if it will reach, please, don't reply on this message there in DBA-OT,
please, send me your feedback privately because I'm not reading DBA-OT these
days....
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From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Apr 29 09:33:07 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:33:07 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday Humor: A new petition to support
outdated(?)technologies...
Message-ID:
Hi Shamil
I don't find this OT, on the contrary very relevant.
It's right that software doesn't get worn out - thus, to state that
some software has turned bad just because something new is available, is
wrong. What matters is if it runs stable and at acceptable speed and if
it interfaces easily if that is needed (which, by the way, in my
experience is the typical reason for obsoleting an application).
As to "off-shore development" - we just call it outsourcing here - it
is perfectly acceptable for jobs where human interaction is not that
important. My son in law gets zope programming done in India and I'm
convinced we will experience much more of such cross boarder development
- as your helper add-ins project demonstrates. Of course, if the
development involves a lot of discussion with clients for custom
applications, the method will not be effective - these cases demand
physical presence.
/gustav
>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 04/29 2:01 pm >>>
Hi All,
I'm a kind of changing my profession (:)) and I'm asking for your
opinion of
this my first try to write a humoristic and slightly (hopefully
slightly
only) sarcastic text - please go here if you have time:
http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/idlpetit.htm
and have a look and send me, please, your feedback privately
Any feedback is very welcome!
Honestly, I'm looking for setting long-term partnerships with
somebody.
The recent my programming works are here:
http://www.code-vb.com/download.htm
(Help Generator set of Add-ins).
No, I'm not trying to promote this stuff for you to purchase it - I'm
just
referring
it to show what was done here recently, off-shore, without any phone
talks,
any business trips - just using e-mail ping-pong and in urgent cases
MS
Messenger chatting to send short specs and to get back developed
software.
Yes, I know, off-shore development isn't in favor there.
Should I leave my homeland and go there to maybe have better life and
to
compete for the jobs with you there at your home?
Yes, the chances to land a better job look much higher in this
case(statistics) but I think I can do some very good stuff here, which
I
will not be able to do there because it will cost more because of the
higher
life costs and the higher taxes rates there.
Therefore, IMO, my off-shore development proposal is a fair business
proposal because I'm not going "sitting here" to compete with you
there
using "dirt-cheap" dumping rates but I'm going to compete by proposing
slightly lower rates, which will open opportunities, which in other
cases
will not be opened at all because they will be financially
meaningless...
So, I propose to get into longterm cooperation to assist you in your
business and for you to assist me in my off-shore development
freelance
business...
Thank you,
Shamil
P.S. Crossposted to Dba-OT. Will it reach it or not, I'm unsure about
that,
if it will reach, please, don't reply on this message there in DBA-OT,
please, send me your feedback privately because I'm not reading DBA-OT
these
days....
--
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From shamil at users.mns.ru Fri Apr 29 18:02:47 2005
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:02:47 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday Humor: A new petition to
supportoutdated(?)technologies...
References:
Message-ID: <004f01c54d0f$a3eaa800$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Hi Gustav,
Yes, I first thought the original petition on IDL was a serious appeal. Then
I found they are kidding this way. Yes, that was a well made joke but these
very talented and of course highly skilled IT professionals look like more
and more "boiling in their own juice" (Russian ethimological expression).
Technology race to feed the "hungry" technology itself. A kind of a
self-satisfaction devil. Sad story...
I wish I have never programmed on MS Windows and if it ever happens I get a
good and longterm contract for Linux/Unix... whatever will interest me
professionally and financially and for me to have time to get skilled in the
mainstream development on this platforms then I'd not think for a long time
to make this transition decision. I did program on IBM 370 for 5+ years then
was 5+ years PDP11/RSX-11M, then 5+ years MS DOS and for 10 years now MS
Windows - that latter looks like drained too much of my "juice". I need to
change that probably. On the other hand the choices are not that large - I
don't like Java because its main purpose IMO was and still is to compete
with and to "kill" MS Windows platform...
> Of course, if the development involves a lot of discussion
> with clients for custom applications, the method will not
> be effective - these cases demand physical presence.
It could still be effective when working with Russians and East Europeans: I
did work with Germans and other Western European companies, but Germany is a
very representative example I think:
- it's well known that the IT-stuff of the German companies(I'm talking
about IT companies because I know about them only) - the stuff of them is
"migrating" all around the country, often living in expensive hotels, the
managerial staff takes just a day long expensive shuttle business trips to
every corner of the Germany and other West European and not only West
European countries etc. The same happens all over the West Europe - this is
how the business works there. You know that better than me. Of course this
is Germans and the West Europeans own business to keep and count all that
expenses and after all these expenses are good(?) because they pump money
all over their countries and don't let their economies "to sleep"...
OK, you were talking about physical presence there - if I take the
representative IMO sample of German IT business then I could say that
expenses to get a developer from Russia there on-site for a short business
trip to talk to the customer are usually less than expenses for the German
IT-staff.(two way economic class plane ticket is usually cheaper than
internal Germany plane trip - this is a proven fact). Well the time is
two-three hours more to go there by plane taking into account we need to
usually be in airport two hours before departure but for business trips this
gap should be possible to minimize I think...
And I'm not talking here and I'm not proposing to substitute German IT-stuff
by having less expensive overheads Russian staff - I'm talking as I wrote in
my previous message about opening the new opportunities because with on
average lower overhead expenses and with lower rates the developers from
Russia can work based on (because of lower personal income tax rate here and
slightly lower life costs for comparable life level) - because of all that
the projects, which will never start there because of their high costs,
these projects become financially approved and profitable when shared among
Western and Russian (West European) staff.
But I still see a few (literally none, maybe I'm missing something?) of such
joint staff venture companies here where IT-staff works as free and equally
respected employees from all over the World based on fair rates based on
real European level life costs here (it's less here as I wrote but not a
matter of magnitude like one may think) - I don't see that. I could be
blind. But I do know (I have heard that by my own ears) that it's a shame
there in your countries to pay for high quality work the money, which are
good enough just for simple foods and a cheap flat renting, some average
quality clothes and a used car spoiling this environment - and (some
of/most of) the Western businesses here they don't care about that, closing
their eyes on very high exploitation level here and participating in this
"unfair game". Yes, I know these Western businesses here are just a small
percent of the other serious and fair small- and middle-size businesses,
which do not hurry to invest in this economy because of corruption, unclear
business rules etc.etc. (this country problems of course) - but while your
fair business owners are sleeping there your unfair "colleagues" together
with "new Russians" are taking control on this country(wood processing
industry is controlled by US, Swedish and some other western countries
capitals etc.), exploiting its resources and its people to the max...
The most of the people here are getting mad of that, they don't believe
nobody anymore, they don't see any hopes for the near better future not only
for them but for their children also and the Western businesses here don't
make it any better the way they are doing business here when they may think
they are a kind of doing charity when giving work to the Russians....
I probably don't understand something in this life and World but the big
money rules this world, the young people (my children included despite my
efforts, my mistake of course) are spoiled by talking and thinking a way too
much than it should have token about money - money is everything here now, a
child can't go to good school without money, you can't get good healthcare
without money(but even paying good money you can get into a big trouble
like e.g I got with teeth implant), you can't get good sports (like tennis)
and well equipped fitness without money etc.etc - when one will count all
that expenses then the life costs become very high. Of course I can go for
sports jogging on the beach and eat porridge and cabbage and walk and use
only public transportation - then if I pay all that humble expenses for
myself and for my family then the salary, which Alcatel(French-Belgium
company branch here) managers are proposing here for a very serious position
of their IT stuff - then this will be enough. And they don't get ashamed of
that...
The state cares little about all that despite all the good words they
sometimes say, "new Russians" care little about that, Western businesses
here care a little bit more but still far less they care about their stuff
in their own countries for comparative work efforts...
What I wanted to say by all that hectic stuff above? - I wanted to say maybe
it's time to start fair direct business between our countries' peoples,
people to people, family to family, business to business, start small and
gradually growing big enough, leaving out of the board "old and new
Russians", spoiled bureaucrats, officials and politicians and "capitalistic
exploitation", playing fair game and paying fair salaries for good work This
is possible I'm sure despite the fact one may find me groundless dreamer...
There are good money in IT-business here you know. You may ask why then I'm
looking for my work there? I will try to explain: It happened this way that
I worked here for fifteen years after highschool and I didn't even think to
go there where you live when most of my colleagues were leaving and who are
still there, forever probably. I wanted to live and work in my homeland.
This was uneasy, very uneasy I must say with galloping inflation and empty
food shops shelves. Then occasionally I have got a work abroad. This was
occasionally, I mean that - I didn't even think this may happen real soon
and I didn't try to find my fortune there despite the fact I was already for
some time in Internet newsgroups etc. - this was my former colleague who
landed me this project who was starting an off-shore development company and
they urgently needed of an experienced MS Access programmer there in
Germany. I went there and I got the project with the salary ten times higher
than I was making here that time (the prices difference between West Europe
and Russia was quite high that time - this difference is almost zero now,
except gasoline and flat rents for average block houses flats). So I got
this project and I got into an international team and here where I found
what free (German) world in IT-software house means. That was very similar
to what we had here in Soviet times (believe me! I mean the way people work
as we worked here before Perestroika/Glasnost (I was a computer science
researcher/developer in Technical University) - we worked well, I'm working
the same way/quality now - many my western colleagues find this is a very
good work) except that they were paying good money for the good work done,
good enough to get everywhere in this World one may wish (that time I first
time in my life went to the tourist trip with family to Egypt), good enough
to have free time between projects looking for and trying to land another
project etc. And this was the time when I decided that this should be the
way how it should work here in Russia too. And I still think it's possible
to make it this way. I see here these "hungry for the good and well paid
work" eyes of young people and not that young people and I can say this
people here can do a lot when they treated fair way but most of them don't
believe this is possible at all without leaving this country forever because
of all what happened with this country during the last centuries and
especially during last 20 years of communism fall and the wild capitalism
"growth"...
So there are good money in IT-businesses here. In big IT-businesses and
projects. But I'm not in this camp. And I didn't try to get into it because
the game they play is rarely fair here. They are often pumping money between
bank accounts for very little work done signing fake projects. When good
work done then the money are paid not to the people who did the main work
but to all kinds of business owners, managers and consultants doing a few,
if any useful work etc. And (sometimes a big share) goes to "the left" -
these are bribes, gifts, presents to land another large project with so
little useful output and so big money paid. This is how it often happens
here...
...but with well developed and effective joint small-/midlle-size business
there and here there are good chances to enter this well paid IT-business
market here. And to start to play and work using the fair game rules only.
You may get the good profits, immensive market, the best developers here and
you'll change a little this spoiled world to the better. Isn't that a good
goal?...
...and today's small IT-software programming businesses, a few of them here,
they are just balancing on zero level because of high software piracy level
and because there is no good enough demand on custom software here because
average salaries are small and so in many jobs, which are usually automated
there in your countries it's more financially profitable to use "man power"
than a computer program - so there is no the small custom software
programming business here, well paid business I mean (I did check that when
was trying to find a job here - I did check that in the main recruitment
agency of this city and they know the existing job market in details). So
the business area where most of you work there and the business where I
could have worked in the case it existed here - it's just absent, it doesn't
exist here. This is why I'm working on the Add-ins for the Netherlands
company, this is why I did write a program for the Belgian Federal Road
Police, this is why I'm trying to find other projects via Internet...
I don't want to leave this country. I wanted to live here, work and travel
worldwide, live for a while there, talk to the customer/business partners
there, invite you here, talk together to the customers here etc.
I think this is possible. All costs included on my dreams above come true
and based on less than usual for the same quality work there rate if staying
mainly here. And without getting your jobs off-shore making higher your own
unemployment rate. But by opening new business opportunities for your and my
business, your and my country people. Working directly. Business to
business. Making real life everyday work....
Best regards,
Shamil
P.S. BTW, Gustav, Alexander, do you remember him?, the big payroll/HRM
software
author and a small software company owner, he is "fighting" with one
American recruitment company here (this is a huge worldwide international
with American headquarters recruitement comany), which uses his software.
They do not want to pay the fair price for this high quality software but
the chances they quit are low I think - they got hooked with this his
software, they need and so they are just trying to trade pennies from the
huge profits they are getting here (e.g. if Alcatel or Interl or Sun hire
via this company a skilled IT-professional they would have gotten for this
"head" and just this head only a little bit less than Alexander wanted to
charge them for one year support (and they sells hundreds or more of such
"heads" per year) - is that a fair business of this Amercian company?(one
should have seen the rooms they have their staff working in...) I don't
think
it's fair but as I see the unfair rules can be changed and are changing even
here when strong and wise players like Alexander are getting in this market
with real applications, which make the difference and which create the new
opportunities...
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock"
To:
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday Humor: A new petition to
supportoutdated(?)technologies...
> Hi Shamil
>
> I don't find this OT, on the contrary very relevant.
>
> It's right that software doesn't get worn out - thus, to state that
> some software has turned bad just because something new is available, is
> wrong. What matters is if it runs stable and at acceptable speed and if
> it interfaces easily if that is needed (which, by the way, in my
> experience is the typical reason for obsoleting an application).
>
> As to "off-shore development" - we just call it outsourcing here - it
> is perfectly acceptable for jobs where human interaction is not that
> important. My son in law gets zope programming done in India and I'm
> convinced we will experience much more of such cross boarder development
> - as your helper add-ins project demonstrates. Of course, if the
> development involves a lot of discussion with clients for custom
> applications, the method will not be effective - these cases demand
> physical presence.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> shamil at users.mns.ru 04/29 2:01 pm >>>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm a kind of changing my profession (:)) and I'm asking for your
> opinion of
> this my first try to write a humoristic and slightly (hopefully
> slightly
> only) sarcastic text - please go here if you have time:
>
> http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/idlpetit.htm
>
> and have a look and send me, please, your feedback privately
>
> Any feedback is very welcome!
>
> Honestly, I'm looking for setting long-term partnerships with
> somebody.
>
> The recent my programming works are here:
>
> http://www.code-vb.com/download.htm
> (Help Generator set of Add-ins).
>
> No, I'm not trying to promote this stuff for you to purchase it - I'm
> just
> referring
> it to show what was done here recently, off-shore, without any phone
> talks,
> any business trips - just using e-mail ping-pong and in urgent cases
> MS
> Messenger chatting to send short specs and to get back developed
> software.
>
> Yes, I know, off-shore development isn't in favor there.
> Should I leave my homeland and go there to maybe have better life and
> to
> compete for the jobs with you there at your home?
> Yes, the chances to land a better job look much higher in this
> case(statistics) but I think I can do some very good stuff here, which
> I
> will not be able to do there because it will cost more because of the
> higher
> life costs and the higher taxes rates there.
> Therefore, IMO, my off-shore development proposal is a fair business
> proposal because I'm not going "sitting here" to compete with you
> there
> using "dirt-cheap" dumping rates but I'm going to compete by proposing
> slightly lower rates, which will open opportunities, which in other
> cases
> will not be opened at all because they will be financially
> meaningless...
> So, I propose to get into longterm cooperation to assist you in your
> business and for you to assist me in my off-shore development
> freelance
> business...
>
> Thank you,
> Shamil
>
> P.S. Crossposted to Dba-OT. Will it reach it or not, I'm unsure about
> that,
> if it will reach, please, don't reply on this message there in DBA-OT,
> please, send me your feedback privately because I'm not reading DBA-OT
> these
> days....
>
> --
> Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk Sat Apr 30 11:36:03 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:36:03 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday Humor: A new petition
tosupportoutdated(?)technologies...
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Hi Shamil
Thanks for the comprehensive update!
You are absolutely right that much more work could be done across the
borders.
But that said, it is my impression that an increase is happening,
though slowly because of tradition and the time it takes for adopting
new habits. A lot of talk has taken place here about the progress in
outsourcing programming work to Ukraine, Russia and India, and
globalisation is the hot political topic because much labour intense
work is moved to our neighbour countries due to the very high rates
here.
And sure I remember Alexander. What he is experiencing is sadly the
behaviour of many large companies acting like they own the World.
However, my guess is that he will be able to handle it.
The only advice you can get is to either stay off dealing with such
companies or be prepared for the worst.
/gustav
>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 04/30 1:02 am >>>
Hi Gustav,
Yes, I first thought the original petition on IDL was a serious appeal.
Then
I found they are kidding this way. Yes, that was a well made joke but
these
very talented and of course highly skilled IT professionals look like
more
and more "boiling in their own juice" (Russian ethimological
expression).
Technology race to feed the "hungry" technology itself. A kind of a
self-satisfaction devil. Sad story...
I wish I have never programmed on MS Windows and if it ever happens I
get a
good and longterm contract for Linux/Unix... whatever will interest me
professionally and financially and for me to have time to get skilled
in the
mainstream development on this platforms then I'd not think for a long
time
to make this transition decision. I did program on IBM 370 for 5+ years
then
was 5+ years PDP11/RSX-11M, then 5+ years MS DOS and for 10 years now
MS
Windows - that latter looks like drained too much of my "juice". I need
to
change that probably. On the other hand the choices are not that large
- I
don't like Java because its main purpose IMO was and still is to
compete
with and to "kill" MS Windows platform...
> Of course, if the development involves a lot of discussion
> with clients for custom applications, the method will not
> be effective - these cases demand physical presence.
It could still be effective when working with Russians and East
Europeans: I
did work with Germans and other Western European companies, but Germany
is a
very representative example I think:
- it's well known that the IT-stuff of the German companies(I'm
talking
about IT companies because I know about them only) - the stuff of them
is
"migrating" all around the country, often living in expensive hotels,
the
managerial staff takes just a day long expensive shuttle business trips
to
every corner of the Germany and other West European and not only West
European countries etc. The same happens all over the West Europe -
this is
how the business works there. You know that better than me. Of course
this
is Germans and the West Europeans own business to keep and count all
that
expenses and after all these expenses are good(?) because they pump
money
all over their countries and don't let their economies "to sleep"...
OK, you were talking about physical presence there - if I take the
representative IMO sample of German IT business then I could say that
expenses to get a developer from Russia there on-site for a short
business
trip to talk to the customer are usually less than expenses for the
German
IT-staff.(two way economic class plane ticket is usually cheaper than
internal Germany plane trip - this is a proven fact). Well the time is
two-three hours more to go there by plane taking into account we need
to
usually be in airport two hours before departure but for business trips
this
gap should be possible to minimize I think...
And I'm not talking here and I'm not proposing to substitute German
IT-stuff
by having less expensive overheads Russian staff - I'm talking as I
wrote in
my previous message about opening the new opportunities because with
on
average lower overhead expenses and with lower rates the developers
from
Russia can work based on (because of lower personal income tax rate
here and
slightly lower life costs for comparable life level) - because of all
that
the projects, which will never start there because of their high
costs,
these projects become financially approved and profitable when shared
among
Western and Russian (West European) staff.
But I still see a few (literally none, maybe I'm missing something?) of
such
joint staff venture companies here where IT-staff works as free and
equally
respected employees from all over the World based on fair rates based
on
real European level life costs here (it's less here as I wrote but not
a
matter of magnitude like one may think) - I don't see that. I could be
blind. But I do know (I have heard that by my own ears) that it's a
shame
there in your countries to pay for high quality work the money, which
are
good enough just for simple foods and a cheap flat renting, some
average
quality clothes and a used car spoiling this environment - and (some
of/most of) the Western businesses here they don't care about that,
closing
their eyes on very high exploitation level here and participating in
this
"unfair game". Yes, I know these Western businesses here are just a
small
percent of the other serious and fair small- and middle-size
businesses,
which do not hurry to invest in this economy because of corruption,
unclear
business rules etc.etc. (this country problems of course) - but while
your
fair business owners are sleeping there your unfair "colleagues"
together
with "new Russians" are taking control on this country(wood processing
industry is controlled by US, Swedish and some other western countries
capitals etc.), exploiting its resources and its people to the max...
The most of the people here are getting mad of that, they don't
believe
nobody anymore, they don't see any hopes for the near better future not
only
for them but for their children also and the Western businesses here
don't
make it any better the way they are doing business here when they may
think
they are a kind of doing charity when giving work to the Russians....
I probably don't understand something in this life and World but the
big
money rules this world, the young people (my children included despite
my
efforts, my mistake of course) are spoiled by talking and thinking a
way too
much than it should have token about money - money is everything here
now, a
child can't go to good school without money, you can't get good
healthcare
without money(but even paying good money you can get into a big
trouble
like e.g I got with teeth implant), you can't get good sports (like
tennis)
and well equipped fitness without money etc.etc - when one will count
all
that expenses then the life costs become very high. Of course I can go
for
sports jogging on the beach and eat porridge and cabbage and walk and
use
only public transportation - then if I pay all that humble expenses
for
myself and for my family then the salary, which Alcatel(French-Belgium
company branch here) managers are proposing here for a very serious
position
of their IT stuff - then this will be enough. And they don't get
ashamed of
that...
The state cares little about all that despite all the good words they
sometimes say, "new Russians" care little about that, Western
businesses
here care a little bit more but still far less they care about their
stuff
in their own countries for comparative work efforts...
What I wanted to say by all that hectic stuff above? - I wanted to say
maybe
it's time to start fair direct business between our countries'
peoples,
people to people, family to family, business to business, start small
and
gradually growing big enough, leaving out of the board "old and new
Russians", spoiled bureaucrats, officials and politicians and
"capitalistic
exploitation", playing fair game and paying fair salaries for good work
This
is possible I'm sure despite the fact one may find me groundless
dreamer...
There are good money in IT-business here you know. You may ask why then
I'm
looking for my work there? I will try to explain: It happened this way
that
I worked here for fifteen years after highschool and I didn't even
think to
go there where you live when most of my colleagues were leaving and who
are
still there, forever probably. I wanted to live and work in my
homeland.
This was uneasy, very uneasy I must say with galloping inflation and
empty
food shops shelves. Then occasionally I have got a work abroad. This
was
occasionally, I mean that - I didn't even think this may happen real
soon
and I didn't try to find my fortune there despite the fact I was
already for
some time in Internet newsgroups etc. - this was my former colleague
who
landed me this project who was starting an off-shore development
company and
they urgently needed of an experienced MS Access programmer there in
Germany. I went there and I got the project with the salary ten times
higher
than I was making here that time (the prices difference between West
Europe
and Russia was quite high that time - this difference is almost zero
now,
except gasoline and flat rents for average block houses flats). So I
got
this project and I got into an international team and here where I
found
what free (German) world in IT-software house means. That was very
similar
to what we had here in Soviet times (believe me! I mean the way people
work
as we worked here before Perestroika/Glasnost (I was a computer
science
researcher/developer in Technical University) - we worked well, I'm
working
the same way/quality now - many my western colleagues find this is a
very
good work) except that they were paying good money for the good work
done,
good enough to get everywhere in this World one may wish (that time I
first
time in my life went to the tourist trip with family to Egypt), good
enough
to have free time between projects looking for and trying to land
another
project etc. And this was the time when I decided that this should be
the
way how it should work here in Russia too. And I still think it's
possible
to make it this way. I see here these "hungry for the good and well
paid
work" eyes of young people and not that young people and I can say
this
people here can do a lot when they treated fair way but most of them
don't
believe this is possible at all without leaving this country forever
because
of all what happened with this country during the last centuries and
especially during last 20 years of communism fall and the wild
capitalism
"growth"...
So there are good money in IT-businesses here. In big IT-businesses
and
projects. But I'm not in this camp. And I didn't try to get into it
because
the game they play is rarely fair here. They are often pumping money
between
bank accounts for very little work done signing fake projects. When
good
work done then the money are paid not to the people who did the main
work
but to all kinds of business owners, managers and consultants doing a
few,
if any useful work etc. And (sometimes a big share) goes to "the left"
-
these are bribes, gifts, presents to land another large project with
so
little useful output and so big money paid. This is how it often
happens
here...
...but with well developed and effective joint small-/midlle-size
business
there and here there are good chances to enter this well paid
IT-business
market here. And to start to play and work using the fair game rules
only.
You may get the good profits, immensive market, the best developers
here and
you'll change a little this spoiled world to the better. Isn't that a
good
goal?...
...and today's small IT-software programming businesses, a few of them
here,
they are just balancing on zero level because of high software piracy
level
and because there is no good enough demand on custom software here
because
average salaries are small and so in many jobs, which are usually
automated
there in your countries it's more financially profitable to use "man
power"
than a computer program - so there is no the small custom software
programming business here, well paid business I mean (I did check that
when
was trying to find a job here - I did check that in the main
recruitment
agency of this city and they know the existing job market in details).
So
the business area where most of you work there and the business where
I
could have worked in the case it existed here - it's just absent, it
doesn't
exist here. This is why I'm working on the Add-ins for the Netherlands
company, this is why I did write a program for the Belgian Federal
Road
Police, this is why I'm trying to find other projects via Internet...
I don't want to leave this country. I wanted to live here, work and
travel
worldwide, live for a while there, talk to the customer/business
partners
there, invite you here, talk together to the customers here etc.
I think this is possible. All costs included on my dreams above come
true
and based on less than usual for the same quality work there rate if
staying
mainly here. And without getting your jobs off-shore making higher your
own
unemployment rate. But by opening new business opportunities for your
and my
business, your and my country people. Working directly. Business to
business. Making real life everyday work....
Best regards,
Shamil
P.S. BTW, Gustav, Alexander, do you remember him?, the big payroll/HRM
software
author and a small software company owner, he is "fighting" with one
American recruitment company here (this is a huge worldwide
international
with American headquarters recruitement comany), which uses his
software.
They do not want to pay the fair price for this high quality software
but
the chances they quit are low I think - they got hooked with this his
software, they need and so they are just trying to trade pennies from
the
huge profits they are getting here (e.g. if Alcatel or Interl or Sun
hire
via this company a skilled IT-professional they would have gotten for
this
"head" and just this head only a little bit less than Alexander wanted
to
charge them for one year support (and they sells hundreds or more of
such
"heads" per year) - is that a fair business of this Amercian
company?(one
should have seen the rooms they have their staff working in...) I
don't
think
it's fair but as I see the unfair rules can be changed and are changing
even
here when strong and wise players like Alexander are getting in this
market
with real applications, which make the difference and which create the
new
opportunities...
--
Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock"
To:
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday Humor: A new petition to
supportoutdated(?)technologies...
> Hi Shamil
>
> I don't find this OT, on the contrary very relevant.
>
> It's right that software doesn't get worn out - thus, to state that
> some software has turned bad just because something new is available,
is
> wrong. What matters is if it runs stable and at acceptable speed and
if
> it interfaces easily if that is needed (which, by the way, in my
> experience is the typical reason for obsoleting an application).
>
> As to "off-shore development" - we just call it outsourcing here -
it
> is perfectly acceptable for jobs where human interaction is not that
> important. My son in law gets zope programming done in India and I'm
> convinced we will experience much more of such cross boarder
development
> - as your helper add-ins project demonstrates. Of course, if the
> development involves a lot of discussion with clients for custom
> applications, the method will not be effective - these cases demand
> physical presence.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> shamil at users.mns.ru 04/29 2:01 pm >>>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm a kind of changing my profession (:)) and I'm asking for your
> opinion of
> this my first try to write a humoristic and slightly (hopefully
> slightly
> only) sarcastic text - please go here if you have time:
>
> http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/idlpetit.htm
>
> and have a look and send me, please, your feedback privately
>
> Any feedback is very welcome!
>
> Honestly, I'm looking for setting long-term partnerships with
> somebody.
>
> The recent my programming works are here:
>
> http://www.code-vb.com/download.htm
> (Help Generator set of Add-ins).
>
> No, I'm not trying to promote this stuff for you to purchase it -
I'm
> just
> referring
> it to show what was done here recently, off-shore, without any phone
> talks,
> any business trips - just using e-mail ping-pong and in urgent cases
> MS
> Messenger chatting to send short specs and to get back developed
> software.
>
> Yes, I know, off-shore development isn't in favor there.
> Should I leave my homeland and go there to maybe have better life
and
> to
> compete for the jobs with you there at your home?
> Yes, the chances to land a better job look much higher in this
> case(statistics) but I think I can do some very good stuff here,
which
> I
> will not be able to do there because it will cost more because of
the
> higher
> life costs and the higher taxes rates there.
> Therefore, IMO, my off-shore development proposal is a fair
business
> proposal because I'm not going "sitting here" to compete with you
> there
> using "dirt-cheap" dumping rates but I'm going to compete by
proposing
> slightly lower rates, which will open opportunities, which in other
> cases
> will not be opened at all because they will be financially
> meaningless...
> So, I propose to get into longterm cooperation to assist you in your
> business and for you to assist me in my off-shore development
> freelance
> business...
>
> Thank you,
> Shamil
>
> P.S. Crossposted to Dba-OT. Will it reach it or not, I'm unsure
about
> that,
> if it will reach, please, don't reply on this message there in
DBA-OT,
> please, send me your feedback privately because I'm not reading
DBA-OT
> these
> days....