From dba.email at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 08:16:22 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 09:16:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slipstream WinXP/SP2
In-Reply-To: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDOEEFCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>
References: <5f2de24205013109291d78afa9@mail.gmail.com>
	<HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDOEEFCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>
Message-ID: <5f2de24205020206162b31bf2a@mail.gmail.com>

Many thanks gentlemen.  I knew there had to be more than one way to
skin this cat.  Special thanks to Andrew for the additional
slipstreaming link.  These guides have more detail than what I've seen
previously.


Mark



On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:43:27 -0000, Jon Tydda <jon at tydda.plus.com> wrote:
> You can download SP2 "for IT Professionals and developers" from:
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=049c9dbe-3b8e-4f30-
> 8245-9e368d3cdb5a&displaylang=en
> 
> it's about 275mb or so, so it might take a while unless you have a T3
> connection or something, but that's what I downloaded when it first came
> out.
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
> Sent: 31 January 2005 17:29
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Slipstream WinXP/SP2
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I read an interesting article a month or so ago about creating a WinXP
> disk that includes SP2.    The process is called slipstreaming.  I
> would like to try this process because in that same magazine I read
> that, on average, a new machine need only be connected to the internet
> for about 4 minutes before being infected by something.
> 
> I have an existing OEM CD sans any SP, but recently purchased a
> "sticker-only" license.  I went to M$ in the hopes of downloading SP2,
> but to no avail.  It seems, to the casual user, as though M$ will only
> deliver the software via the windows update service.
> 
> I'm hoping that a few of you network admin types can point me in the
> right direction.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Mark
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 13:36:26 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:36:26 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Finding data in a list
Message-ID: <b874372a05020211365f71776f@mail.gmail.com>

So I created a little function to take a "list" of items and convert
it to a table. (see below).

What I want to do is query a table that has any one of these items in
"it's" list such as


Field1, Field2, Field3, Field4

SN    Option,  Date,  (Group1,Group2, Group3, Group4)


SOoooo... The data I wish to collect is how many times does my list of
IDs show up on the stored data


for example the SELECT * FROM udfListToTable('Group1,Group4'; ',') I'd
like to somehow join this to the primary table that has SN, Option,
DATE and the GroupListField

so if one row has the field GroupListField as (Group1,Group3,Group4)
it would show up, and so would the row that has (Group3,Group4) and
the row (Group1,Group2)

see what I mean? (OR perhaps I ought to store the individual groups
into their own rows on a sub row... I can go back and chage it as it's
still development.


btw, your thoughts are always welcomed...



CREATE FUNCTION udfListToTable (@HList VarChar(1000), @Delimiter CHAR(1))
RETURNS @ListTable TABLE (Field1 VARCHAR(6))
AS
BEGIN
	--By: Francisco Tapia
	--Date: 2/1/2005
	--Purpose: To convert a Comma delimited text to a Temp Variable table
To help avoid dynamic sql
	--  	   Instead you can join the temp table or use it in your where
clause if a field is IN the subquery
	DECLARE @SOURCEtext as VarChar(6)

	IF RIGHT(RTRIM(@HLIST),1) <>@Delimiter
		SET @HList = @HList + @Delimiter
	
	WHILE CHARINDEX(@Delimiter, @HList) > 0
	BEGIN
		IF CHARINDEX(@Delimiter, @HList) > 0
		   BEGIN
			SELECT @FOIDtext =LEFT(@HList, CHARINDEX(@Delimiter, @HList)-1)
		   END
		ELSE	
		   BEGIN
		 	SELECT @FOIDtext = RTRIM(LTRIM(@HList))
		   END
		--Insert into Variable Table
		INSERT INTO @ListTable(Field1)
		       SELECT RTRIM(LTRIM(@SOURCEtext ))
		--Remove Item from list
		SELECT @HList = RIGHT(RTRIM(@HList), LEN(RTRIM(@HList)) -
CHARINDEX(@Delimiter, @HList))
	END	
	RETURN
END


-- 
-Francisco
http://pcthis.blogspot.com | PC news with out the jargon!


From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 14:41:12 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:41:12 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <5f2de24205020206162b31bf2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV1548A796CE346561F9DC0AD27E0@phx.gbl>

I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and looking after my
ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus updates, etc.
Occasionally something else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all
the time, typically two weeks between reboots.

It's suddenly become unhelpful -
1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer   Unable to
run this command"
2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give symptom
2 or 3 above.

It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
click:  nothing.

BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all the rest - IF
you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s   Everything
works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.

Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: ADSL, ZA,
Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  Did a full virus
and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.

Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  Just had a quick
Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a folder call
"Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an audio CD, ...

Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any bright ideas?  I
strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and reformat,
reinstall, etc.

John


From dbatech at wolfwares.com  Wed Feb  2 15:31:32 2005
From: dbatech at wolfwares.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:31:32 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV1548A796CE346561F9DC0AD27E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <HCEKKCDKADBCBMOJIMDHCEIAEOAA.dbatech@wolfwares.com>

The profile might be corrupt.  Don't wipe the machine, just create a new
user with Admin permissions.  Log in as that.  See if the new profile has
the same issues.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:41 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally


I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and looking after my
ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus updates, etc.
Occasionally something else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all
the time, typically two weeks between reboots.

It's suddenly become unhelpful -
1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer   Unable to
run this command"
2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give symptom
2 or 3 above.

It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
click:  nothing.

BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all the rest - IF
you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s   Everything
works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.

Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: ADSL, ZA,
Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  Did a full virus
and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.

Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  Just had a quick
Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a folder call
"Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an audio CD, ...

Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any bright ideas?  I
strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and reformat,
reinstall, etc.

John
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Feb  2 15:39:15 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 21:39:15 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV1548A796CE346561F9DC0AD27E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDAEFKCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

Have you tried more than one virus scanner? Some seem to pick things up
differently... for instance we've got McAfee on all the desktops and servers
at work, but they sometimes won't clean things up, so we run their Stinger
program, which looks for specific viruses, rathen than all 30 million of
them, and uses a different set of detection rules (according to their
website). Maybe Panda scan might be different again? I have McAfee 9 at
home, but occasionally use Panda, sometimes Stinger.

Similarly, I use 3 different anti-spyware programs, and they all find and
treat different things, and it's saved my from having to reinstall my pc
every 6 months like I used to have to. I use Spybot, Ad-Aware Pro and Giant.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 02 February 2005 20:41
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally


I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and looking after my
ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus updates, etc.
Occasionally something else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all
the time, typically two weeks between reboots.

It's suddenly become unhelpful -
1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer   Unable to
run this command"
2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give symptom
2 or 3 above.

It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
click:  nothing.

BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all the rest - IF
you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s   Everything
works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.

Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: ADSL, ZA,
Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  Did a full virus
and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.

Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  Just had a quick
Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a folder call
"Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an audio CD, ...

Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any bright ideas?  I
strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and reformat,
reinstall, etc.

John
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 16:38:04 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:38:04 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <HCEKKCDKADBCBMOJIMDHCEIAEOAA.dbatech@wolfwares.com>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV9DA70BA558B39F0F7D038D27E0@phx.gbl>

Good thought, Drew, but no, it has the same issues.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
> Sent: 02 February 2005 21:32
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> The profile might be corrupt.  Don't wipe the machine, just 
> create a new user with Admin permissions.  Log in as that.  
> See if the new profile has the same issues.
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:41 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and 
> looking after my ADSL connection, running firewall, 
> centralised anti-virus updates, etc. Occasionally something 
> else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all the 
> time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> 
> It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows 
> Explorer   Unable to
> run this command"
> 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most 
> give symptom
> 2 or 3 above.
> 
> It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
> click:  nothing.
> 
> BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all 
> the rest - IF
> you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s  
>  Everything
> works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
> 
> Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: 
> ADSL, ZA,
> Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> Did a full virus
> and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> 
> Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  
> Just had a quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, 
> I don't have a folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I 
> trying to play an audio CD, ...
> 
> Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any 
> bright ideas?  I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems 
> than give up and reformat, reinstall, etc.
> 
> John
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From ralph at inweb.co.uk  Wed Feb  2 16:40:17 2005
From: ralph at inweb.co.uk (Ralph Bryce)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:40:17 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV1548A796CE346561F9DC0AD27E0@phx.gbl>
References: <5f2de24205020206162b31bf2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050202222958.02f8dd38@pop3.inweb.co.uk>

John

Had exactly these symptoms last week. In the end, I reinstalled Windows 2000
from the original disks (thankfully, I didn't have to reformat, etc). 
Problem disappeared
but then had to download SP4 and other updates from the Microsoft website 
as the
versions I had on disk just would not install.

Then Word and Excel wouldn't open files (Access worked OK) so had to also 
reinstall
Office 2000 and service packs.

HTH

Ralph Bryce


At 20:41 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and looking after my
>ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus updates, etc.
>Occasionally something else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all
>the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
>
>It's suddenly become unhelpful -
>1.      trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer   Unable to
>run this command"
>2.      Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
>device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
>3.      Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
>effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
>4.      Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give symptom
>2 or 3 above.
>
>It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
>click:  nothing.
>
>BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all the rest - IF
>you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s   Everything
>works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
>
>Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: ADSL, ZA,
>Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  Did a full virus
>and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
>
>Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  Just had a quick
>Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a folder call
>"Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an audio CD, ...
>
>Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any bright ideas?  I
>strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and reformat,
>reinstall, etc.
>
>John
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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Wed Feb  2 16:42:02 2005
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:12:02 +1030
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD20BC39F@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

Perhaps explorer.exe has become slightly corrupt?

Try running the System File Checker (sfc.exe) -> it replaces any corrupt
system files. You'll probably need your original CD but its worth a try
and it doesn't require a format!

A

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 7:11 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally

I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and looking after my
ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus updates, etc.
Occasionally something else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on
all the time, typically two weeks between reboots.

It's suddenly become unhelpful -
1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer
Unable to
run this command"
2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give
symptom
2 or 3 above.

It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
click:  nothing.

BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all the rest -
IF
you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s
Everything
works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.

Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: ADSL, ZA,
Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  Did a full
virus
and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.

Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  Just had a
quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a folder
call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an audio CD, ...

Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any bright ideas?
I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and
reformat, reinstall, etc.

John
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 16:42:46 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:42:46 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDAEFKCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV162A9AABF02E72337E7EB1D27E0@phx.gbl>

Jon

I've had issues with McAfee not finding things in the past, but Sophos has
always been watertight, IME (and found the odd thing that McAfee missed!).

Trying to do a Panda ActiveScan to be doubly sure.  It seems to have
downloaded but then got no further - nothing's happening...

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 02 February 2005 21:39
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Have you tried more than one virus scanner? Some seem to pick 
> things up differently... for instance we've got McAfee on all 
> the desktops and servers at work, but they sometimes won't 
> clean things up, so we run their Stinger program, which looks 
> for specific viruses, rathen than all 30 million of them, and 
> uses a different set of detection rules (according to their 
> website). Maybe Panda scan might be different again? I have 
> McAfee 9 at home, but occasionally use Panda, sometimes Stinger.
> 
> Similarly, I use 3 different anti-spyware programs, and they 
> all find and treat different things, and it's saved my from 
> having to reinstall my pc every 6 months like I used to have 
> to. I use Spybot, Ad-Aware Pro and Giant.
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: 02 February 2005 20:41
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and 
> looking after my ADSL connection, running firewall, 
> centralised anti-virus updates, etc. Occasionally something 
> else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all the 
> time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> 
> It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows 
> Explorer   Unable to
> run this command"
> 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most 
> give symptom
> 2 or 3 above.
> 
> It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
> click:  nothing.
> 
> BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all 
> the rest - IF
> you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s  
>  Everything
> works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
> 
> Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: 
> ADSL, ZA,
> Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> Did a full virus
> and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> 
> Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  
> Just had a quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, 
> I don't have a folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I 
> trying to play an audio CD, ...
> 
> Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any 
> bright ideas?  I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems 
> than give up and reformat, reinstall, etc.
> 
> John
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Feb  2 16:44:40 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:44:40 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050202222958.02f8dd38@pop3.inweb.co.uk>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDOEFKCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

That's weird... the only service pack I've ever had a problem with was SP2
for Win2k... screwed up three (admittedly quite old) pc's royally, but SP3
fixed it and I've not had a problem since...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Ralph Bryce
Sent: 02 February 2005 22:40
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally


John

Had exactly these symptoms last week. In the end, I reinstalled Windows 2000
from the original disks (thankfully, I didn't have to reformat, etc).
Problem disappeared
but then had to download SP4 and other updates from the Microsoft website
as the
versions I had on disk just would not install.

Then Word and Excel wouldn't open files (Access worked OK) so had to also
reinstall
Office 2000 and service packs.

HTH

Ralph Bryce


At 20:41 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and looking after my
>ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus updates, etc.
>Occasionally something else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on
all
>the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
>
>It's suddenly become unhelpful -
>1.      trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer   Unable
to
>run this command"
>2.      Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
>device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
>3.      Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
>effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
>4.      Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give symptom
>2 or 3 above.
>
>It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
>click:  nothing.
>
>BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all the rest - IF
>you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s   Everything
>works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
>
>Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: ADSL, ZA,
>Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  Did a full
virus
>and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
>
>Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  Just had a
quick
>Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a folder call
>"Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an audio CD, ...
>
>Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any bright ideas?  I
>strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and reformat,
>reinstall, etc.
>
>John
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Feb  2 16:50:09 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:50:09 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupwise Question
Message-ID: <000a01c50979$8c816430$de1811d8@danwaters>

I just got back from talking with a potential client.  He wants to know if
you can save a groupwise email as a separate file.  You can do this in
Outlook, and I haven't used Groupwise in several years.

 

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems



From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Feb  2 16:58:11 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:58:11 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV162A9AABF02E72337E7EB1D27E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDKEFLCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

I had that on my dad's old win 98 pc... fixed it by running all sorts of
anti-spyware stuff, and updating it all.

Maybe try booting off the install cd and running a repair install?


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 02 February 2005 22:43
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally


Jon

I've had issues with McAfee not finding things in the past, but Sophos has
always been watertight, IME (and found the odd thing that McAfee missed!).

Trying to do a Panda ActiveScan to be doubly sure.  It seems to have
downloaded but then got no further - nothing's happening...

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 02 February 2005 21:39
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>
>
> Have you tried more than one virus scanner? Some seem to pick
> things up differently... for instance we've got McAfee on all
> the desktops and servers at work, but they sometimes won't
> clean things up, so we run their Stinger program, which looks
> for specific viruses, rathen than all 30 million of them, and
> uses a different set of detection rules (according to their
> website). Maybe Panda scan might be different again? I have
> McAfee 9 at home, but occasionally use Panda, sometimes Stinger.
>
> Similarly, I use 3 different anti-spyware programs, and they
> all find and treat different things, and it's saved my from
> having to reinstall my pc every 6 months like I used to have
> to. I use Spybot, Ad-Aware Pro and Giant.
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: 02 February 2005 20:41
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>
>
> I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and
> looking after my ADSL connection, running firewall,
> centralised anti-virus updates, etc. Occasionally something
> else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all the
> time, typically two weeks between reboots.
>
> It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows
> Explorer   Unable to
> run this command"
> 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most
> give symptom
> 2 or 3 above.
>
> It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
> click:  nothing.
>
> BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all
> the rest - IF
> you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s
>  Everything
> works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
>
> Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine:
> ADSL, ZA,
> Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.
> Did a full virus
> and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
>
> Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).
> Just had a quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no,
> I don't have a folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I
> trying to play an audio CD, ...
>
> Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any
> bright ideas?  I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems
> than give up and reformat, reinstall, etc.
>
> John
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 17:13:41 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:13:41 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050202222958.02f8dd38@pop3.inweb.co.uk>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV16F82A11653F2DF4B68C21D27E0@phx.gbl>

I'm trying to avoid that, but it come to it...

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ralph Bryce
> Sent: 02 February 2005 22:40
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> John
> 
> Had exactly these symptoms last week. In the end, I 
> reinstalled Windows 2000 from the original disks (thankfully, 
> I didn't have to reformat, etc). 
> Problem disappeared
> but then had to download SP4 and other updates from the 
> Microsoft website 
> as the
> versions I had on disk just would not install.
> 
> Then Word and Excel wouldn't open files (Access worked OK) so 
> had to also 
> reinstall
> Office 2000 and service packs.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Ralph Bryce
> 
> 
> At 20:41 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> 
> >I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and 
> looking after 
> >my ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus 
> updates, 
> >etc. Occasionally something else, but mostly just these 
> essentials.  PC 
> >is on all the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> >
> >It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> >1.      trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows 
> Explorer   Unable to
> >run this command"
> >2.      Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the 
> specified
> >device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> >3.      Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated 
> program:  no
> >effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> >4.      Very few system things in the Control Panel work: 
> most give symptom
> >2 or 3 above.
> >
> >It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself 
> and double
> >click:  nothing.
> >
> >BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and 
> all the rest - IF
> >you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s 
>   Everything
> >works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
> >
> >Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running 
> fine: ADSL, ZA,
> >Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> Did a full virus
> >and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> >
> >Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  
> Just had a 
> >quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't 
> have a folder 
> >call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an 
> audio CD, ...
> >
> >Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any 
> bright ideas?  
> >I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and 
> >reformat, reinstall, etc.
> >
> >John
> >_______________________________________________
> >dba-Tech mailing list
> >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 17:18:57 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:18:57 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV162A9AABF02E72337E7EB1D27E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV29864DDBC76AB2F46955F6D27E0@phx.gbl>

Panda's going nowhere:  "Error on page"  Retried - the same.  Trying on a
different PC, but never got past "Downloading ActiveScan" there either.

Wait - the original PC reports "Error on page"   Hmmmph.

J


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: 02 February 2005 22:43
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> I've had issues with McAfee not finding things in the past, 
> but Sophos has always been watertight, IME (and found the odd 
> thing that McAfee missed!).
> 
> Trying to do a Panda ActiveScan to be doubly sure.  It seems 
> to have downloaded but then got no further - nothing's happening...
> 
> John
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jon Tydda
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 21:39
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > 
> > 
> > Have you tried more than one virus scanner? Some seem to pick
> > things up differently... for instance we've got McAfee on all 
> > the desktops and servers at work, but they sometimes won't 
> > clean things up, so we run their Stinger program, which looks 
> > for specific viruses, rathen than all 30 million of them, and 
> > uses a different set of detection rules (according to their 
> > website). Maybe Panda scan might be different again? I have 
> > McAfee 9 at home, but occasionally use Panda, sometimes Stinger.
> > 
> > Similarly, I use 3 different anti-spyware programs, and they
> > all find and treat different things, and it's saved my from 
> > having to reinstall my pc every 6 months like I used to have 
> > to. I use Spybot, Ad-Aware Pro and Giant.
> > 
> > 
> > Jon
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> > DJK(John) Robinson
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 20:41
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > 
> > 
> > I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and
> > looking after my ADSL connection, running firewall, 
> > centralised anti-virus updates, etc. Occasionally something 
> > else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all the 
> > time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> > 
> > It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> > 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows 
> > Explorer   Unable to
> > run this command"
> > 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> > device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> > 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> > effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> > 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most 
> > give symptom
> > 2 or 3 above.
> > 
> > It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself 
> and double
> > click:  nothing.
> > 
> > BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all
> > the rest - IF
> > you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s  
> >  Everything
> > works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
> > 
> > Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine:
> > ADSL, ZA,
> > Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> > Did a full virus
> > and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> > 
> > Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).
> > Just had a quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, 
> > I don't have a folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I 
> > trying to play an audio CD, ...
> > 
> > Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any
> > bright ideas?  I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems 
> > than give up and reformat, reinstall, etc.
> > 
> > John
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Feb  2 17:20:35 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:20:35 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV16F82A11653F2DF4B68C21D27E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDOEFMCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

Try the repair install first John


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 02 February 2005 23:14
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally


I'm trying to avoid that, but it come to it...

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ralph Bryce
> Sent: 02 February 2005 22:40
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> John
> 
> Had exactly these symptoms last week. In the end, I 
> reinstalled Windows 2000 from the original disks (thankfully, 
> I didn't have to reformat, etc). 
> Problem disappeared
> but then had to download SP4 and other updates from the 
> Microsoft website 
> as the
> versions I had on disk just would not install.
> 
> Then Word and Excel wouldn't open files (Access worked OK) so 
> had to also 
> reinstall
> Office 2000 and service packs.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Ralph Bryce
> 
> 
> At 20:41 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> 
> >I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and 
> looking after 
> >my ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus 
> updates, 
> >etc. Occasionally something else, but mostly just these 
> essentials.  PC 
> >is on all the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> >
> >It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> >1.      trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows 
> Explorer   Unable to
> >run this command"
> >2.      Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the 
> specified
> >device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> >3.      Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated 
> program:  no
> >effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> >4.      Very few system things in the Control Panel work: 
> most give symptom
> >2 or 3 above.
> >
> >It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself 
> and double
> >click:  nothing.
> >
> >BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and 
> all the rest - IF
> >you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s 
>   Everything
> >works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
> >
> >Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running 
> fine: ADSL, ZA,
> >Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> Did a full virus
> >and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> >
> >Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  
> Just had a 
> >quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't 
> have a folder 
> >call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an 
> audio CD, ...
> >
> >Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any 
> bright ideas?  
> >I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and 
> >reformat, reinstall, etc.
> >
> >John
> >_______________________________________________
> >dba-Tech mailing list
> >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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> 
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 17:22:44 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:22:44 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD20BC39F@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV2114379582865313C065B8D27E0@phx.gbl>

Andrew

Yes, a possibility.  I've tried replacing one or two other things (with
reboot) but no luck yet.  Explorer itself next.

And thanks for the reminder about sfc.exe - I'd quite forgotten about that.

Currently running a virus scan across the network from an OK PC, then bed, I
think. Busy day tomorrow, mostly, so this saga may have to be resumed on
Friday.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Haslett, Andrew
> Sent: 02 February 2005 22:42
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Perhaps explorer.exe has become slightly corrupt?
> 
> Try running the System File Checker (sfc.exe) -> it replaces 
> any corrupt system files. You'll probably need your original 
> CD but its worth a try and it doesn't require a format!
> 
> A
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 7:11 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and 
> looking after my ADSL connection, running firewall, 
> centralised anti-virus updates, etc. Occasionally something 
> else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all the 
> time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> 
> It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer
> Unable to
> run this command"
> 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give
> symptom
> 2 or 3 above.
> 
> It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
> click:  nothing.
> 
> BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all 
> the rest - IF you know what to type in the Run window, eg  
> compmgmt.msc /s Everything works OK in itself: I just can't 
> run anything the normal way.
> 
> Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: 
> ADSL, ZA,
> Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  Did a full
> virus
> and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> 
> Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  
> Just had a quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, 
> I don't have a folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I 
> trying to play an audio CD, ...
> 
> Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any 
> bright ideas? I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems 
> than give up and reformat, reinstall, etc.
> 
> John
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From ralph at inweb.co.uk  Wed Feb  2 17:23:42 2005
From: ralph at inweb.co.uk (Ralph Bryce)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:23:42 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDOEFKCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050202222958.02f8dd38@pop3.inweb.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050202231457.02feaf68@pop3.inweb.co.uk>

Jon

It WAS weird...my versions on disk have installed fine on every other 
machine I've worked on.
Normally, my usual clean-up procedures, run anti-spyware apps, anti-virus 
apps, clean up
the registry, remove junk startups, etc. work fine but not on this occasion...

It's been fine since...

Ralph Bryce

At 22:44 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>That's weird... the only service pack I've ever had a problem with was SP2
>for Win2k... screwed up three (admittedly quite old) pc's royally, but SP3
>fixed it and I've not had a problem since...
>
>
>Jon
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Ralph Bryce
>Sent: 02 February 2005 22:40
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>
>
>John
>
>Had exactly these symptoms last week. In the end, I reinstalled Windows 2000
>from the original disks (thankfully, I didn't have to reformat, etc).
>Problem disappeared
>but then had to download SP4 and other updates from the Microsoft website
>as the
>versions I had on disk just would not install.
>
>Then Word and Excel wouldn't open files (Access worked OK) so had to also
>reinstall
>Office 2000 and service packs.
>
>HTH
>
>Ralph Bryce
>
>
>At 20:41 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>
> >I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and looking after my
> >ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus updates, etc.
> >Occasionally something else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on
>all
> >the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> >
> >It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> >1.      trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer   Unable
>to
> >run this command"
> >2.      Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> >device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> >3.      Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> >effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> >4.      Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give symptom
> >2 or 3 above.
> >
> >It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
> >click:  nothing.
> >
> >BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all the rest - IF
> >you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s   Everything
> >works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
> >
> >Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: ADSL, ZA,
> >Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  Did a full
>virus
> >and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> >
> >Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).  Just had a
>quick
> >Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a folder call
> >"Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an audio CD, ...
> >
> >Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any bright ideas?  I
> >strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and reformat,
> >reinstall, etc.
> >
> >John
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Feb  2 17:24:05 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:24:05 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV29864DDBC76AB2F46955F6D27E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDGEFNCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

hmm, maybe try another online one... can't think of any off the top of my
head though...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
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Robinson
Sent: 02 February 2005 23:19
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally


Panda's going nowhere:  "Error on page"  Retried - the same.  Trying on a
different PC, but never got past "Downloading ActiveScan" there either.

Wait - the original PC reports "Error on page"   Hmmmph.

J


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: 02 February 2005 22:43
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>
>
> Jon
>
> I've had issues with McAfee not finding things in the past,
> but Sophos has always been watertight, IME (and found the odd
> thing that McAfee missed!).
>
> Trying to do a Panda ActiveScan to be doubly sure.  It seems
> to have downloaded but then got no further - nothing's happening...
>
> John
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Jon Tydda
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 21:39
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> >
> >
> > Have you tried more than one virus scanner? Some seem to pick
> > things up differently... for instance we've got McAfee on all
> > the desktops and servers at work, but they sometimes won't
> > clean things up, so we run their Stinger program, which looks
> > for specific viruses, rathen than all 30 million of them, and
> > uses a different set of detection rules (according to their
> > website). Maybe Panda scan might be different again? I have
> > McAfee 9 at home, but occasionally use Panda, sometimes Stinger.
> >
> > Similarly, I use 3 different anti-spyware programs, and they
> > all find and treat different things, and it's saved my from
> > having to reinstall my pc every 6 months like I used to have
> > to. I use Spybot, Ad-Aware Pro and Giant.
> >
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> > DJK(John) Robinson
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 20:41
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> >
> >
> > I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and
> > looking after my ADSL connection, running firewall,
> > centralised anti-virus updates, etc. Occasionally something
> > else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all the
> > time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> >
> > It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> > 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows
> > Explorer   Unable to
> > run this command"
> > 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> > device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> > 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> > effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> > 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most
> > give symptom
> > 2 or 3 above.
> >
> > It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself
> and double
> > click:  nothing.
> >
> > BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all
> > the rest - IF
> > you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s
> >  Everything
> > works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
> >
> > Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine:
> > ADSL, ZA,
> > Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.
> > Did a full virus
> > and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> >
> > Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).
> > Just had a quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no,
> > I don't have a folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I
> > trying to play an audio CD, ...
> >
> > Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any
> > bright ideas?  I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems
> > than give up and reformat, reinstall, etc.
> >
> > John
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 17:32:03 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:32:03 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDOEFMCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV12095874CDD752CDFB1C02D27E0@phx.gbl>

Yup.  I think:
1. complete the remote virus scan
2. give up on Panda?
3. replace explorer and reboot
4. try sfc.exe
5. try repair install
6. switch to a Drive Image a took a few weeks back

But sleep, work and singing are going to interrupt this over the next 24
hrs.

Many thanks for all your good ideas, guys.  Much appreciated.  I'll report
back in due course - probably Friday.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 02 February 2005 23:21
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Try the repair install first John
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: 02 February 2005 23:14
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> I'm trying to avoid that, but it come to it...
> 
> John
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Ralph Bryce
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 22:40
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > 
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > Had exactly these symptoms last week. In the end, I
> > reinstalled Windows 2000 from the original disks (thankfully, 
> > I didn't have to reformat, etc). 
> > Problem disappeared
> > but then had to download SP4 and other updates from the 
> > Microsoft website 
> > as the
> > versions I had on disk just would not install.
> > 
> > Then Word and Excel wouldn't open files (Access worked OK) so
> > had to also 
> > reinstall
> > Office 2000 and service packs.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Ralph Bryce
> > 
> > 
> > At 20:41 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > 
> > >I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and
> > looking after
> > >my ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus
> > updates,
> > >etc. Occasionally something else, but mostly just these
> > essentials.  PC
> > >is on all the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> > >
> > >It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> > >1.      trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows 
> > Explorer   Unable to
> > >run this command"
> > >2.      Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the 
> > specified
> > >device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> > >3.      Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated 
> > program:  no
> > >effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> > >4.      Very few system things in the Control Panel work: 
> > most give symptom
> > >2 or 3 above.
> > >
> > >It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself
> > and double
> > >click:  nothing.
> > >
> > >BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and
> > all the rest - IF
> > >you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s
> >   Everything
> > >works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
> > >
> > >Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running
> > fine: ADSL, ZA,
> > >Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> > Did a full virus
> > >and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> > >
> > >Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).
> > Just had a
> > >quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't
> > have a folder
> > >call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an
> > audio CD, ...
> > >
> > >Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any
> > bright ideas?
> > >I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and
> > >reformat, reinstall, etc.
> > >
> > >John
> > >_______________________________________________
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Feb  2 17:32:20 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:32:20 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV2114379582865313C065B8D27E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDAEFOCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

Actually (and I know how stupid and crazy it sounds), run diskclean, scan
disk and defrag, and delee all your cookies etc, and temporary files. The
number of pc problems i've cured at work through doing that lot is beyond
belief...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 02 February 2005 23:23
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally


Andrew

Yes, a possibility.  I've tried replacing one or two other things (with
reboot) but no luck yet.  Explorer itself next.

And thanks for the reminder about sfc.exe - I'd quite forgotten about that.

Currently running a virus scan across the network from an OK PC, then bed, I
think. Busy day tomorrow, mostly, so this saga may have to be resumed on
Friday.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Haslett, Andrew
> Sent: 02 February 2005 22:42
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>
>
> Perhaps explorer.exe has become slightly corrupt?
>
> Try running the System File Checker (sfc.exe) -> it replaces
> any corrupt system files. You'll probably need your original
> CD but its worth a try and it doesn't require a format!
>
> A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 7:11 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>
> I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and
> looking after my ADSL connection, running firewall,
> centralised anti-virus updates, etc. Occasionally something
> else, but mostly just these essentials.  PC is on all the
> time, typically two weeks between reboots.
>
> It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer
> Unable to
> run this command"
> 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give
> symptom
> 2 or 3 above.
>
> It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself and double
> click:  nothing.
>
> BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and all
> the rest - IF you know what to type in the Run window, eg
> compmgmt.msc /s Everything works OK in itself: I just can't
> run anything the normal way.
>
> Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine:
> ADSL, ZA,
> Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  Did a full
> virus
> and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
>
> Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).
> Just had a quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no,
> I don't have a folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I
> trying to play an audio CD, ...
>
> Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any
> bright ideas? I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems
> than give up and reformat, reinstall, etc.
>
> John
> _______________________________________________
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 17:39:37 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:39:37 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDAEFOCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV15D334708AD937278AD151D27E0@phx.gbl>

Not crazy at all!  Scandisk and defrag regularly, temps today.  Diskclean?

J


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 02 February 2005 23:32
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Actually (and I know how stupid and crazy it sounds), run 
> diskclean, scan disk and defrag, and delee all your cookies 
> etc, and temporary files. The number of pc problems i've 
> cured at work through doing that lot is beyond belief...
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: 02 February 2005 23:23
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Andrew
> 
> Yes, a possibility.  I've tried replacing one or two other 
> things (with
> reboot) but no luck yet.  Explorer itself next.
> 
> And thanks for the reminder about sfc.exe - I'd quite 
> forgotten about that.
> 
> Currently running a virus scan across the network from an OK 
> PC, then bed, I think. Busy day tomorrow, mostly, so this 
> saga may have to be resumed on Friday.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Haslett, 
> > Andrew
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 22:42
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> >
> >
> > Perhaps explorer.exe has become slightly corrupt?
> >
> > Try running the System File Checker (sfc.exe) -> it replaces any 
> > corrupt system files. You'll probably need your original CD but its 
> > worth a try and it doesn't require a format!
> >
> > A
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > DJK(John) Robinson
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 7:11 AM
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> >
> > I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and 
> looking after 
> > my ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised 
> anti-virus updates, 
> > etc. Occasionally something else, but mostly just these 
> essentials.  
> > PC is on all the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> >
> > It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> > 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer
> > Unable to
> > run this command"
> > 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> > device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> > 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> > effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> > 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give
> > symptom
> > 2 or 3 above.
> >
> > It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself 
> and double
> > click:  nothing.
> >
> > BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and 
> all the rest 
> > - IF you know what to type in the Run window, eg compmgmt.msc /s 
> > Everything works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal 
> > way.
> >
> > Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: ADSL, 
> > ZA,
> > Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> Did a full
> > virus
> > and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> >
> > Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223). 
> Just had a 
> > quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a 
> > folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to 
> play an audio 
> > CD, ...
> >
> > Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any 
> bright ideas? 
> > I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and 
> > reformat, reinstall, etc.
> >
> > John
> > _______________________________________________
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Feb  2 17:46:40 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:46:40 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV15D334708AD937278AD151D27E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDKEFOCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

Yeah, disk cleanup, also in the system tools folder from the start menu.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 02 February 2005 23:40
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally


Not crazy at all!  Scandisk and defrag regularly, temps today.  Diskclean?

J


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 02 February 2005 23:32
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Actually (and I know how stupid and crazy it sounds), run 
> diskclean, scan disk and defrag, and delee all your cookies 
> etc, and temporary files. The number of pc problems i've 
> cured at work through doing that lot is beyond belief...
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: 02 February 2005 23:23
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Andrew
> 
> Yes, a possibility.  I've tried replacing one or two other 
> things (with
> reboot) but no luck yet.  Explorer itself next.
> 
> And thanks for the reminder about sfc.exe - I'd quite 
> forgotten about that.
> 
> Currently running a virus scan across the network from an OK 
> PC, then bed, I think. Busy day tomorrow, mostly, so this 
> saga may have to be resumed on Friday.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Haslett, 
> > Andrew
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 22:42
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> >
> >
> > Perhaps explorer.exe has become slightly corrupt?
> >
> > Try running the System File Checker (sfc.exe) -> it replaces any 
> > corrupt system files. You'll probably need your original CD but its 
> > worth a try and it doesn't require a format!
> >
> > A
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > DJK(John) Robinson
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 7:11 AM
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> >
> > I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and 
> looking after 
> > my ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised 
> anti-virus updates, 
> > etc. Occasionally something else, but mostly just these 
> essentials.  
> > PC is on all the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> >
> > It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> > 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer
> > Unable to
> > run this command"
> > 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the specified
> > device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> > 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated program:  no
> > effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> > 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel work: most give
> > symptom
> > 2 or 3 above.
> >
> > It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself 
> and double
> > click:  nothing.
> >
> > BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and 
> all the rest 
> > - IF you know what to type in the Run window, eg compmgmt.msc /s 
> > Everything works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal 
> > way.
> >
> > Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running fine: ADSL, 
> > ZA,
> > Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> Did a full
> > virus
> > and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> >
> > Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223). 
> Just had a 
> > quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a 
> > folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to 
> play an audio 
> > CD, ...
> >
> > Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any 
> bright ideas? 
> > I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and 
> > reformat, reinstall, etc.
> >
> > John
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 17:49:26 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:49:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupwise Question
In-Reply-To: <000a01c50979$8c816430$de1811d8@danwaters>
References: <000a01c50979$8c816430$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9205020215492389cc19@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:50:09 -0600, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> I just got back from talking with a potential client.  He wants to know if
> you can save a groupwise email as a separate file.  You can do this in
> Outlook, and I haven't used Groupwise in several years.

Yep. In V6.5.1 (and the other versions I've used)  it's just a mater
of File | Save As... in either the open email or from the list of
e-mails in the main window.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Feb  2 18:01:31 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:01:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupwise Question
In-Reply-To: <9576993.1107388212101.JavaMail.root@sniper22.securence.com>
Message-ID: <001401c50983$84f40ec0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Thanks Bryan!

You have helped me (at least) look smart!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 5:49 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Groupwise Question

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:50:09 -0600, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com>
wrote:
> I just got back from talking with a potential client.  He wants to know if
> you can save a groupwise email as a separate file.  You can do this in
> Outlook, and I haven't used Groupwise in several years.

Yep. In V6.5.1 (and the other versions I've used)  it's just a mater
of File | Save As... in either the open email or from the list of
e-mails in the main window.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 18:04:47 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:04:47 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
In-Reply-To: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDKEFOCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV17AACF4AE4B2547470B266D27F0@phx.gbl>

Oh, yeah.  I'd forgotten that.  Actually covers mostly what I do anyway
except that I don't plan to "compress old files", so less than 1MB saving.

J


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 02 February 2005 23:47
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Yeah, disk cleanup, also in the system tools folder from the 
> start menu.
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: 02 February 2005 23:40
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Not crazy at all!  Scandisk and defrag regularly, temps 
> today.  Diskclean?
> 
> J
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jon Tydda
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 23:32
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > 
> > 
> > Actually (and I know how stupid and crazy it sounds), run
> > diskclean, scan disk and defrag, and delee all your cookies 
> > etc, and temporary files. The number of pc problems i've 
> > cured at work through doing that lot is beyond belief...
> > 
> > 
> > Jon
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> > DJK(John) Robinson
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 23:23
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > 
> > 
> > Andrew
> > 
> > Yes, a possibility.  I've tried replacing one or two other
> > things (with
> > reboot) but no luck yet.  Explorer itself next.
> > 
> > And thanks for the reminder about sfc.exe - I'd quite
> > forgotten about that.
> > 
> > Currently running a virus scan across the network from an OK
> > PC, then bed, I think. Busy day tomorrow, mostly, so this 
> > saga may have to be resumed on Friday.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > Haslett,
> > > Andrew
> > > Sent: 02 February 2005 22:42
> > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps explorer.exe has become slightly corrupt?
> > >
> > > Try running the System File Checker (sfc.exe) -> it replaces any
> > > corrupt system files. You'll probably need your original 
> CD but its 
> > > worth a try and it doesn't require a format!
> > >
> > > A
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > > DJK(John) Robinson
> > > Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 7:11 AM
> > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > > Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > >
> > > I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and
> > looking after
> > > my ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised
> > anti-virus updates,
> > > etc. Occasionally something else, but mostly just these
> > essentials.
> > > PC is on all the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> > >
> > > It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> > > 1.	trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows Explorer
> > > Unable to
> > > run this command"
> > > 2.	Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access 
> to the specified
> > > device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as Administrator.)
> > > 3.	Double-clicking on a file to invoke the 
> associated program:  no
> > > effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> > > 4.	Very few system things in the Control Panel 
> work: most give
> > > symptom
> > > 2 or 3 above.
> > >
> > > It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself
> > and double
> > > click:  nothing.
> > >
> > > BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and
> > all the rest
> > > - IF you know what to type in the Run window, eg compmgmt.msc /s
> > > Everything works OK in itself: I just can't run anything 
> the normal 
> > > way.
> > >
> > > Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running 
> fine: ADSL,
> > > ZA,
> > > Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> > Did a full
> > > virus
> > > and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> > >
> > > Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).
> > Just had a
> > > quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't have a
> > > folder call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to 
> > play an audio
> > > CD, ...
> > >
> > > Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any
> > bright ideas?
> > > I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and
> > > reformat, reinstall, etc.
> > >
> > > John
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Feb  2 19:22:45 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 01:22:45 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally - FIXED
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV12095874CDD752CDFB1C02D27E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV4E60E2D03CCA78654179FD27F0@phx.gbl>

1, 2, 3: no effect.

#4 sfc (even without the CD, which I hadn't got to hand) - SUCCESS

Andrew Haslett, of Australia's Indigenous Land Corporation - thank you very
much indeed!  Take a bow !!!

Now, bed (1.20am here), greatly relieved.
John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DJK(John) Robinson
> Sent: 02 February 2005 23:32
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> 
> 
> Yup.  I think:
> 1. complete the remote virus scan
> 2. give up on Panda?
> 3. replace explorer and reboot
> 4. try sfc.exe
> 5. try repair install
> 6. switch to a Drive Image a took a few weeks back
> 
> But sleep, work and singing are going to interrupt this over 
> the next 24 hrs.
> 
> Many thanks for all your good ideas, guys.  Much appreciated. 
>  I'll report back in due course - probably Friday.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jon Tydda
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 23:21
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > 
> > 
> > Try the repair install first John
> > 
> > 
> > Jon
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> > DJK(John) Robinson
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 23:14
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > 
> > 
> > I'm trying to avoid that, but it come to it...
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Ralph Bryce
> > > Sent: 02 February 2005 22:40
> > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
> > > 
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > > Had exactly these symptoms last week. In the end, I reinstalled 
> > > Windows 2000 from the original disks (thankfully, I 
> didn't have to 
> > > reformat, etc). Problem disappeared
> > > but then had to download SP4 and other updates from the 
> > > Microsoft website 
> > > as the
> > > versions I had on disk just would not install.
> > > 
> > > Then Word and Excel wouldn't open files (Access worked 
> OK) so had to 
> > > also reinstall
> > > Office 2000 and service packs.
> > > 
> > > HTH
> > > 
> > > Ralph Bryce
> > > 
> > > 
> > > At 20:41 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > > 
> > > >I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and
> > > looking after
> > > >my ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus
> > > updates,
> > > >etc. Occasionally something else, but mostly just these
> > > essentials.  PC
> > > >is on all the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
> > > >
> > > >It's suddenly become unhelpful -
> > > >1.      trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows 
> > > Explorer   Unable to
> > > >run this command"
> > > >2.      Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the 
> > > specified
> > > >device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as 
> Administrator.)
> > > >3.      Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated 
> > > program:  no
> > > >effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
> > > >4.      Very few system things in the Control Panel work: 
> > > most give symptom
> > > >2 or 3 above.
> > > >
> > > >It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself
> > > and double
> > > >click:  nothing.
> > > >
> > > >BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and
> > > all the rest - IF
> > > >you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s
> > >   Everything
> > > >works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
> > > >
> > > >Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running
> > > fine: ADSL, ZA,
> > > >Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
> > > Did a full virus
> > > >and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
> > > >
> > > >Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).
> > > Just had a
> > > >quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't
> > > have a folder
> > > >call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an
> > > audio CD, ...
> > > >
> > > >Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any
> > > bright ideas?
> > > >I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and 
> > > >reformat, reinstall, etc.
> > > >
> > > >John
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Feb  3 13:16:44 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:16:44 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally - FIXED
References: <BAY5-DAV4E60E2D03CCA78654179FD27F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4202789C.5080408@shaw.ca>

There is a way to save these refresh or restore dll's in a seperate 
directory so you don't need the CD
You may have done this previously.
I think it is in the I386  directory, I would have to look up.
Also if infected don't forget to run these methods in Safe mode

One trick used by trojan writers is to place a  DLL as an a "A?lternative
Data Stream" (ADS) on your System32 directory , so you can't "de?lete" the
file using the regular way . plus the DLL component injects itself into 
the EXPLORER
 process making it invisible in the Task Manager process list.

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/misc.shtml#streams

DJK(John) Robinson wrote:

>1, 2, 3: no effect.
>
>#4 sfc (even without the CD, which I hadn't got to hand) - SUCCESS
>
>Andrew Haslett, of Australia's Indigenous Land Corporation - thank you very
>much indeed!  Take a bow !!!
>
>Now, bed (1.20am here), greatly relieved.
>John
>
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>DJK(John) Robinson
>>Sent: 02 February 2005 23:32
>>To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>>Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>>
>>
>>Yup.  I think:
>>1. complete the remote virus scan
>>2. give up on Panda?
>>3. replace explorer and reboot
>>4. try sfc.exe
>>5. try repair install
>>6. switch to a Drive Image a took a few weeks back
>>
>>But sleep, work and singing are going to interrupt this over 
>>the next 24 hrs.
>>
>>Many thanks for all your good ideas, guys.  Much appreciated. 
>> I'll report back in due course - probably Friday.
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>      
>>>
>>Jon Tydda
>>    
>>
>>>Sent: 02 February 2005 23:21
>>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>>>
>>>
>>>Try the repair install first John
>>>
>>>
>>>Jon
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
>>>DJK(John) Robinson
>>>Sent: 02 February 2005 23:14
>>>To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>>>Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm trying to avoid that, but it come to it...
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>Ralph Bryce
>>>>Sent: 02 February 2005 22:40
>>>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W2K won't explore/run things normally
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Had exactly these symptoms last week. In the end, I reinstalled 
>>>>Windows 2000 from the original disks (thankfully, I 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>didn't have to 
>>    
>>
>>>>reformat, etc). Problem disappeared
>>>>but then had to download SP4 and other updates from the 
>>>>Microsoft website 
>>>>as the
>>>>versions I had on disk just would not install.
>>>>
>>>>Then Word and Excel wouldn't open files (Access worked 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>OK) so had to 
>>    
>>
>>>>also reinstall
>>>>Office 2000 and service packs.
>>>>
>>>>HTH
>>>>
>>>>Ralph Bryce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 20:41 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I have an old PC running Win2000 (fully up-to-date) and
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>looking after
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>my ADSL connection, running firewall, centralised anti-virus
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>updates,
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>etc. Occasionally something else, but mostly just these
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>essentials.  PC
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>is on all the time, typically two weeks between reboots.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's suddenly become unhelpful -
>>>>>1.      trying to run programs via Start gives "Windows 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Explorer   Unable to
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>run this command"
>>>>>2.      Winkey+E (shortcut to run Explorer):  "Access to the 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>specified
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>device, path, or file is denied."  (I'm running as 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>Administrator.)
>>    
>>
>>>>>3.      Double-clicking on a file to invoke the associated 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>program:  no
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>effect at all.  (eg .txt to run notepad)
>>>>>4.      Very few system things in the Control Panel work: 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>most give symptom
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>2 or 3 above.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not just shortcuts, either.  Locate notepad.exe itself
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>and double
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>click:  nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>BUT Winkey+R (to Run something) works fine!  Explorer and
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>all the rest - IF
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>you know what to type in the Run window, eg  compmgmt.msc /s
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>  Everything
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>works OK in itself: I just can't run anything the normal way.
>>>>>
>>>>>Same after rebooting.  And the services are all running
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>fine: ADSL, ZA,
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Sophos, ...   And nothing interesting in the Event Viewer.  
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Did a full virus
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>and spyware scan, to be on the safe side - nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can't find anything useful on MSKB (and it's not Q172223).
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Just had a
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>quick Google, but nothing useful so far.  And no, I don't
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>have a folder
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>call "Program" on my C drive, nor am I trying to play an
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>audio CD, ...
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Has anyone come across a problem like this?  Or have any
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>bright ideas?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I strongly prefer to tackle and solve problems than give up and 
>>>>>reformat, reinstall, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>dba-Tech mailing list
>>>>>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>          
>>>>>
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>>>>
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Canada





From john at winhaven.net  Sun Feb  6 17:29:43 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:29:43 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint VBA forum
Message-ID: <200502061729843.SM03460@ScuzzPaq>

Can anyone point me to a PowerPoint VBA forum?
 
John B.


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Feb  7 07:00:05 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:00:05 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] GMail Invites
Message-ID: <e04a6c920502070500268f4636@mail.gmail.com>

I've got a bunch of GMail invites (50 apparently) if anyone is
interested. Just ping me at carbonnb at gmail.com and I'll send one off
to you.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Feb  8 14:54:21 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:54:21 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDOEHMCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

Hi all

As you know, I got my XP upgrade kit last week, and I've just been waiting
for my new hard drive to arrive... I got it in today's post :-)

So, after I install the new drive and ghost the original to it as a backup,
should I just be able to whack the cd in and upgrade to XP with no issues,
or is there something I should know first?

I've installed 2K countless times, and XP a fair few, but never from an
upgrade... are there any problems?


Jon



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Feb  8 17:08:19 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:08:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Voice Recognition Software
In-Reply-To: <b874372a05020211365f71776f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b874372a05020211365f71776f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42094663.7070705@rogers.com>

I've never played with any of the voice-recognition stuff. Have you? I'm 
assuming the propaganda is at least partially true... you speak into a 
microphone and it captures your speech and renders Oxford English 100% 
flawless 10% of the time. So the question is, suppose I played a DVD and 
somehow piped the dialog into the Voice-Rec software. Would it produce a 
text file of some sort?

Ancillary question: Assuming the above is true, what happens with 
various accents? Let's use a few examples of possible Englishes -- 
Chicago black American, Jamaican, Irish, Quebecois and Alamba.

(Reminds me of a scene from Poolhall Junkies where the protagonist is 
playing well in a mostly black pool hall, and the money man behind his 
opponent calls him a good nigga. He says "nigger?" The other guy says, 
"No, nigga. You call me a nigger you die. Nigga is cool.")

I'm paraphrasing, precisely because I don't have the software that I'm 
dreaming of, which is the subject of this message.

Obviously the same issue applies to other languages, too. A Dutch friend 
of mine who came to Canada for a vacation went to Vancouver from here 
(Toronto) and upon his return said, "In Canada you go 5000 kilometers 
and people speak the same way. In Holland you go 30 kilometers and they 
have another accent."

Anyone got any experience with this software? What I'd really like to 
do, if at all possible, is pipe the dialog from a few DVD movies into 
said software, to capture it as a text file of some sort.

Am I dreaming, or are we getting close?

Arthur

>  
>


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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Tue Feb  8 17:20:19 2005
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:50:19 +1030
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD20BC3E9@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

No issue that I know, however I always prefer a clean install if that is
an option..  

Can always just copy your personal files across and doesn't take *that*
long to reinstall apps etc.

Cheers,
A


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 7:24 AM
To: Dba-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP

Hi all

As you know, I got my XP upgrade kit last week, and I've just been
waiting for my new hard drive to arrive... I got it in today's post :-)

So, after I install the new drive and ghost the original to it as a
backup, should I just be able to whack the cd in and upgrade to XP with
no issues, or is there something I should know first?

I've installed 2K countless times, and XP a fair few, but never from an
upgrade... are there any problems?


Jon

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Feb  8 22:12:44 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:12:44 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Voice Recognition Software
In-Reply-To: <42094663.7070705@rogers.com>
References: <b874372a05020211365f71776f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <420A1A5C.14230.B9BF74D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 8 Feb 2005 at 18:08, Arthur Fuller wrote:

 So the question is, suppose I played a DVD and 
> somehow piped the dialog into the Voice-Rec software. Would it produce a 
> text file of some sort?
> 
Yes. But whether it will bear any resemblance to the original dialogue is a 
debatable

> Ancillary question: Assuming the above is true, what happens with 
> various accents? Let's use a few examples of possible Englishes -- 
> Chicago black American, Jamaican, Irish, Quebecois and Alamba.
> 

You have to spend several hours training the software to your own voice and 
even then the quality of results depends on the environment you are 
speaking in, whether you have got a cold etc, etc.   Even two people with 
the same regional accent need to train it separately to get  acceptable 
results.

...

> Am I dreaming

Afraid so at this stage.


-- 
Stuart




From john at winhaven.net  Wed Feb  9 00:34:31 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:34:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] would an array be best for this?
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAA2t/bvx0mDkCtefM0u3pBMQEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

I'm working with PowerPoint VBA here but it is really a simple VBA problem.
I think that I'm PP'd out. I have the code all working fine. (It basically
loops through an entire presentation and converts all colors over to
grayscale.)  This is for a client's printing job. The printer would like it
to all be grayscale except the slides that need to be printed in color. The
machine they use charges by grayscale page or color page. So if any pixel of
color is accidentally left on the slide the page gets charged at the color
rate. Anyway...
 
My problem is that I need to have a method which allows the user to enter
which pages shouldn't be converted to grayscale and then prevent my little
routine here from messing with those slides. There is one small section in
the PP-VBA module below, enclosed in
'--------------------------------------------- where you will be able to see
what I mean. I have eliminated one slide from being processed by the
statement: "If objSlide.SlideNumber <> 9 Then"
I should be able to gather the dozen or so slides that shouldn't be
processed by using an array and looping through it, instr() or something but
I am in total brain block and haven't any idea how to do this.
 
My mouse's batteries are dying on me so I will have to place it in the
cradle and give up for now but maybe one of you VBA gurus can help me out
with some advice for tomorrow morning's PP session.

John B.
 
 
'*begin code*
 
'Code by: WinHaven LLC   Last update: 02-08-05
 
Option Explicit
Public intCountObjects As Integer 'running count of objects
 
Sub ProcessShapes()
Dim objSlide As Slide
Dim objShape As Shape
Dim i As Integer
Dim intUseGray As Integer
Dim lngNewRGB As Long
 
For Each objSlide In ActivePresentation.Slides
    intCountObjects = intCountObjects + 1 'running count of objects
 
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
    'need to have input box with array or some other method of
    'preventing a list of slides from be converted to gray
    If objSlide.SlideNumber <> 9 Then
 
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
    For Each objShape In objSlide.Shapes
        intCountObjects = intCountObjects + 1 'running count of objects
        If objShape.Type = msoGroup Then
            For i = 1 To objShape.GroupItems.count
                intCountObjects = intCountObjects + 1 'running count of
objects
                Call ChangeToGray(objShape.GroupItems(i))
            Next i
        Else
            Call ChangeToGray(objShape)
        End If
    Next objShape
    End If
Next objSlide
MsgBox intCountObjects 'running count of objects
End Sub
 
Function CalcGray(lngRGB As Long) As Long
'find rgb values divide by three to get a gray tone value to return
 
Dim lngRed As Long
Dim lngGreen As Long
Dim lngBlue As Long
Dim lngGray As Long
Dim intGray As Integer
 
    lngRed = lngRGB Mod 256
    lngGreen = lngRGB \ 256 Mod 256
    lngBlue = lngRGB \ 65536 Mod 256
    lngGray = (lngRed + lngGreen + lngBlue)
    If lngGray <> 0 Then
        lngGray = (lngGray / 3)
    End If
 
intGray = CInt(lngGray)
 
CalcGray = RGB(intGray, intGray, intGray)
 
End Function
 
Function ChangeToGray(objShape As Shape)
    Dim lngNewRGB As Long
    Dim i As Integer
    Dim oTxtRng As TextRange
    On Error Resume Next
    If objShape.HasTextFrame Then
        'change text objects
        If objShape.TextFrame.HasText Then
            Set oTxtRng = objShape.TextFrame.TextRange
            For i = 1 To oTxtRng.Runs.count
                intCountObjects = intCountObjects + 1 'running count of
objects
                With oTxtRng.Runs(i).Font.Color
                        lngNewRGB = CalcGray(.RGB)
                        .RGB = lngNewRGB
                End With
            Next i
        End If
    End If
    If objShape.Fill.Visible Then
        'forecolor fill
        lngNewRGB = CalcGray(objShape.Fill.ForeColor.RGB)
        objShape.Fill.ForeColor.RGB = lngNewRGB
        'backcolor fill
        lngNewRGB = CalcGray(objShape.Fill.BackColor.RGB)
        objShape.Fill.BackColor.RGB = lngNewRGB
    End If
    If objShape.Line.Visible Then
        'line color
        lngNewRGB = CalcGray(objShape.Line.ForeColor.RGB)
        objShape.Line.ForeColor.RGB = lngNewRGB
    End If
    'picture color
    objShape.PictureFormat.ColorType = msoPictureGrayscale
End Function
 
 
'*End Code*


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Feb  9 01:11:56 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:11:56 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] would an array be best for this?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAA2t/bvx0mDkCtefM0u3pBMQEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <420A445C.14725.21C9A8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 9 Feb 2005 at 0:34, John Bartow wrote:
>  
> My problem is that I need to have a method which allows the user to enter
> which pages shouldn't be converted to grayscale and then prevent my little
> routine here from messing with those slides. There is one small section in
> the PP-VBA module below, enclosed in
> '--------------------------------------------- where you will be able to see
> what I mean. I have eliminated one slide from being processed by the
> statement: "If objSlide.SlideNumber <> 9 Then"

Try something like this (assumes that PP VBA has Inputbox, Split and Join 
functions)

> Sub ProcessShapes()
> Dim objSlide As Slide
> Dim objShape As Shape
> Dim i As Integer
> Dim intUseGray As Integer
> Dim lngNewRGB As Long
>  
Dim strPages() as string
Dim StrSkipPages as String
Dim lngLoop as Long
'Get user input
strSkipPages = Inputbox("Enter pages to skip, separated by commas")

'use split and join to change format of each element to three digits 
' so that 9 won't be skipped 'if 19 if in the list etc

'build array
strPages() = split(strSkipPages,",")
'pad elements 
For lngLoop = 0 to Ubound(strPages())
    strPages(lngLoop) = Right$("000" & strPages(lngLoop),3)
Next
'Rebuild String
strSkipPages = Join(strPages(),",")

 For Each objSlide In ActivePresentation.Slides
     intCountObjects = intCountObjects + 1 'running count of objects

'test whether we should process this slide
      If  Instr(strSKipPages,Format$(intCountObjects,"000")) > 1 then 
         For Each objShape In objSlide.Shapes
              ..........
        Next objShape
    End if  

 Next objSlide

-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Feb  9 01:33:20 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:33:20 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] would an array be best for this?
In-Reply-To: <420A445C.14725.21C9A8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAA2t/bvx0mDkCtefM0u3pBMQEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <420A4960.4852.3560BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 9 Feb 2005 at 17:11, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>       If  Instr(strSKipPages,Format$(intCountObjects,"000")) > 1 then 

Oops!  Don't know what I was thinking there :-(

    If  Instr(strSKipPages,Format$(intCountObjects,"000")) = 0 


-- 
Stuart




From tuxedo_man at hotmail.com  Wed Feb  9 01:57:32 2005
From: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com (Billy Pang)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:57:32 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Voice Recognition Software
In-Reply-To: <420A1A5C.14230.B9BF74D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F62A82AB46121DB10AEE06E5750@phx.gbl>

I've played with voice recognition software before.  I never really got used 
to it.  I usually mumble when I talk so the computer never really understood 
what I said and it was not smart enough to fill in the gaps.  When I clear 
my throat, it types in something.  When I type on my keyboard, it registers 
as something too.

I tried feeding sounds from the dvd movie into my microphone but voice recon 
software does not record it properly.  Maybe it is because the characters in 
movies talk too fast and there is too much background noise.  To use voice 
recognition software effectively, they recommend talking like a newscaster 
(ie. clearly, speaking evenly) in a quiet room.

I don't think I talk with an accent but my American neighbours probably 
think I have a Canadian accent, eh?  Not sure what they are talking a boot.  
I handed my microphone over to someone with a heavy Chinese accent but 
software was not able to adapt too well.

Billy

>From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
>Reply-To: Discussion of Hardware and Software 
>issues<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software 
>issues	<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Voice Recognition Software
>Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:12:44 +1000
>
>On 8 Feb 2005 at 18:08, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
>  So the question is, suppose I played a DVD and
> > somehow piped the dialog into the Voice-Rec software. Would it produce a
> > text file of some sort?
> >
>Yes. But whether it will bear any resemblance to the original dialogue is a
>debatable
>
> > Ancillary question: Assuming the above is true, what happens with
> > various accents? Let's use a few examples of possible Englishes --
> > Chicago black American, Jamaican, Irish, Quebecois and Alamba.
> >
>
>You have to spend several hours training the software to your own voice and
>even then the quality of results depends on the environment you are
>speaking in, whether you have got a cold etc, etc.   Even two people with
>the same regional accent need to train it separately to get  acceptable
>results.
>
>...
>
> > Am I dreaming
>
>Afraid so at this stage.
>
>
>--
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>
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Wed Feb  9 04:51:50 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:51:50 -0000 
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2345@ALCUXB>

Yeah, I do too, but I don't have that option, it's the Upgrade version of
XP. Might be worth putting the new hard drive in, installing 2k on it then
upgrading to XP immediately... Then copying everything back onto it...
Whaddya reckon?


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Haslett, Andrew [mailto:andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au]
Sent: 08 February 2005 23:20
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP


No issue that I know, however I always prefer a clean install if that is
an option..  

Can always just copy your personal files across and doesn't take *that*
long to reinstall apps etc.

Cheers,
A


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 7:24 AM
To: Dba-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP

Hi all

As you know, I got my XP upgrade kit last week, and I've just been
waiting for my new hard drive to arrive... I got it in today's post :-)

So, after I install the new drive and ghost the original to it as a
backup, should I just be able to whack the cd in and upgrade to XP with
no issues, or is there something I should know first?

I've installed 2K countless times, and XP a fair few, but never from an
upgrade... are there any problems?


Jon

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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Wed Feb  9 06:24:24 2005
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:54:24 +1030
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP
Message-ID: <0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2013A7B@adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au>

Yup - sounds like the better option.

Good luck!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wed 9/02/2005 9:21 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP
 
Yeah, I do too, but I don't have that option, it's the Upgrade version of
XP. Might be worth putting the new hard drive in, installing 2k on it then
upgrading to XP immediately... Then copying everything back onto it...
Whaddya reckon?


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Haslett, Andrew [mailto:andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au]
Sent: 08 February 2005 23:20
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP


No issue that I know, however I always prefer a clean install if that is
an option..  

Can always just copy your personal files across and doesn't take *that*
long to reinstall apps etc.

Cheers,
A


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 7:24 AM
To: Dba-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP

Hi all

As you know, I got my XP upgrade kit last week, and I've just been
waiting for my new hard drive to arrive... I got it in today's post :-)

So, after I install the new drive and ghost the original to it as a
backup, should I just be able to whack the cd in and upgrade to XP with
no issues, or is there something I should know first?

I've installed 2K countless times, and XP a fair few, but never from an
upgrade... are there any problems?


Jon

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Feb  9 07:47:47 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 08:47:47 -0500 
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A125@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

You can perform a clean install even with an upgrade CD.
During the clean install, the installation will let you know that it could
not find a previous version of Windows already installed. You will then be
prompted to insert a CD that contains a qualifying product (e.g. Windows
2000) for verification.
This CD can either be an original CD or a "backup" version of the original.

Good luck!

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Tydda [mailto:Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:52 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP

Yeah, I do too, but I don't have that option, it's the Upgrade version of
XP. Might be worth putting the new hard drive in, installing 2k on it then
upgrading to XP immediately... Then copying everything back onto it...
Whaddya reckon?


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Haslett, Andrew [mailto:andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au]
Sent: 08 February 2005 23:20
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP


No issue that I know, however I always prefer a clean install if that is
an option.. 

Can always just copy your personal files across and doesn't take *that*
long to reinstall apps etc.

Cheers,
A


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 7:24 AM
To: Dba-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP

Hi all

As you know, I got my XP upgrade kit last week, and I've just been
waiting for my new hard drive to arrive... I got it in today's post :-)

So, after I install the new drive and ghost the original to it as a
backup, should I just be able to whack the cd in and upgrade to XP with
no issues, or is there something I should know first?

I've installed 2K countless times, and XP a fair few, but never from an
upgrade... are there any problems?


Jon

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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Wed Feb  9 08:05:36 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:05:36 -0000 
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D234B@ALCUXB>

That's pretty neat, I'll give that a go, thanks!


Jon

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From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com]
Sent: 09 February 2005 13:48
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP


You can perform a clean install even with an upgrade CD.
During the clean install, the installation will let you know that it could
not find a previous version of Windows already installed. You will then be
prompted to insert a CD that contains a qualifying product (e.g. Windows
2000) for verification.
This CD can either be an original CD or a "backup" version of the original.

Good luck!

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Tydda [mailto:Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:52 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP

Yeah, I do too, but I don't have that option, it's the Upgrade version of
XP. Might be worth putting the new hard drive in, installing 2k on it then
upgrading to XP immediately... Then copying everything back onto it...
Whaddya reckon?


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Haslett, Andrew [mailto:andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au]
Sent: 08 February 2005 23:20
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP


No issue that I know, however I always prefer a clean install if that is
an option.. 

Can always just copy your personal files across and doesn't take *that*
long to reinstall apps etc.

Cheers,
A


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 7:24 AM
To: Dba-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2K to XP

Hi all

As you know, I got my XP upgrade kit last week, and I've just been
waiting for my new hard drive to arrive... I got it in today's post :-)

So, after I install the new drive and ghost the original to it as a
backup, should I just be able to whack the cd in and upgrade to XP with
no issues, or is there something I should know first?

I've installed 2K countless times, and XP a fair few, but never from an
upgrade... are there any problems?


Jon

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From bgeldart at verizon.net  Wed Feb  9 18:25:38 2005
From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:25:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Voice Recognition Software
In-Reply-To: <42094663.7070705@rogers.com>
References: <b874372a05020211365f71776f@mail.gmail.com>
	<42094663.7070705@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.0.20050209192123.01bfeec0@incoming.verizon.net>

Arthur,

I believe it was William Hindman on the Access-D list who used Dragon 
Software's "Naturally Speaking". Try the Archives for an OT subject on 
Carpal Tunnel. He seemed to use voice-recognition software quite 
extensively in his day-to-day computing.

Hope this helps,
Bob

At 06:08 PM 2/8/2005, you wrote:
>I've never played with any of the voice-recognition stuff. Have you? I'm 
>assuming the propaganda is at least partially true... you speak into a 
>microphone and it captures your speech and renders Oxford English 100% 
>flawless 10% of the time. So the question is, suppose I played a DVD and 
>somehow piped the dialog into the Voice-Rec software. Would it produce a 
>text file of some sort?
>
>[snip]
>
>Anyone got any experience with this software? What I'd really like to do, 
>if at all possible, is pipe the dialog from a few DVD movies into said 
>software, to capture it as a text file of some sort.
>
>Am I dreaming, or are we getting close?




Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA


From john at winhaven.net  Wed Feb  9 21:31:21 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:31:21 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] would an array be best for this?
In-Reply-To: <420A4960.4852.3560BB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAA2vpF3WQ/kkiCaOrdrXTibAEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Stuart,
Thanks a bunch! That sparked my brain. BTW the InputBox and other items are
general VBA - none of what you posted it was Access specific.

I owe you one - John B.


Here's my (almost) final code. (I have an issue with one set of bullet
characters in a list. I will have find out whether there is some exception
to how they may need to be handled. It could an import from an older version
or soemthing.)

'Code: WinHaven LLC  Last Update: 2-9-05   Thanks to Shyam Pillai and Stuart
McLachlan for their most kind assistance
Option Explicit
Public intCountObjects As Integer

Sub ProcessShapes()
'Loops through all objects in a PowerPoint presentation and changes the
color to grayscale (unless noted as an exception)

Dim objSlide As Slide
Dim objShape As Shape
Dim I As Integer
Dim intUseGray As Integer
Dim lngNewRGB As Long
Dim strPages() As String
Dim strSkipPages As String
Dim lngLoop As Long

'ask user for the slide numbers that aren't to be processed
strSkipPages = InputBox("Enter the slide numbers that you do not want
converted to grayscale." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
"Separated the slide numbers with commas." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
"Example: 1,5,12,35,67", "Special Process - Convert Pages to Gray: List
Exceptions", , 3600, 3600)
'strip out any spaces
strSkipPages = StripChars_TSB(strSkipPages, " ") 'in another module
'use split and join to change format of each element to three digits
'build array
strPages() = Split(strSkipPages, ",")
'pad elements
For lngLoop = 0 To UBound(strPages())
    strPages(lngLoop) = Right$("000" & strPages(lngLoop), 3)
Next
'Rebuild String
strSkipPages = Join(strPages(), ",")
For Each objSlide In ActivePresentation.Slides
    intCountObjects = intCountObjects + 1 'running count of objects
    'test whether we should process this slide
    If InStr(strSkipPages, Format$(objSlide.SlideNumber, "000")) = 0 Then
    '---------------------------------------------
    For Each objShape In objSlide.Shapes
        intCountObjects = intCountObjects + 1 'running count of objects
        If objShape.Type = msoGroup Then
            For I = 1 To objShape.GroupItems.count
                intCountObjects = intCountObjects + 1 'running count of
objects
                Call ChangeToGray(objShape.GroupItems(I))
            Next I
        Else
            Call ChangeToGray(objShape)
        End If
    Next objShape
    End If
Next objSlide
MsgBox intCountObjects & " objects have been processed to gray scale.",
vbOKOnly, "Convert Pages to Gray: Complete!"

End Sub

Function CalcGray(lngRGB As Long) As Long
'find rgb values divide by three to get a gray tone value to return

Dim lngRed As Long
Dim lngGreen As Long
Dim lngBlue As Long
Dim lngGray As Long
Dim intGray As Integer

    lngRed = lngRGB Mod 256
    lngGreen = lngRGB \ 256 Mod 256
    lngBlue = lngRGB \ 65536 Mod 256
    lngGray = (lngRed + lngGreen + lngBlue)
    If lngGray <> 0 Then
        lngGray = (lngGray / 3)
    End If

intGray = CInt(lngGray)

CalcGray = RGB(intGray, intGray, intGray)

End Function

Function ChangeToGray(objShape As Shape)

    Dim lngNewRGB As Long
    Dim I As Integer
    Dim oTxtRng As TextRange
    On Error Resume Next
    If objShape.HasTextFrame Then
        'change text objects
        If objShape.TextFrame.HasText Then
            Set oTxtRng = objShape.TextFrame.TextRange
            For I = 1 To oTxtRng.Runs.count
                intCountObjects = intCountObjects + 1 'running count of
objects
                With oTxtRng.Runs(I).Font.Color
                        lngNewRGB = CalcGray(.RGB)
                        .RGB = lngNewRGB
                End With
            Next I
        End If
    End If
    If objShape.Fill.Visible Then
        'forecolor fill
        lngNewRGB = CalcGray(objShape.Fill.ForeColor.RGB)
        objShape.Fill.ForeColor.RGB = lngNewRGB
        'backcolor fill
        lngNewRGB = CalcGray(objShape.Fill.BackColor.RGB)
        objShape.Fill.BackColor.RGB = lngNewRGB
    End If
    If objShape.Line.Visible Then
        'line color
        lngNewRGB = CalcGray(objShape.Line.ForeColor.RGB)
        objShape.Line.ForeColor.RGB = lngNewRGB
    End If
    'picture color
    objShape.PictureFormat.ColorType = msoPictureGrayscale
    
End Function



From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Feb 10 06:06:34 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:06:34 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Voice Recognition Software
In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.0.20050209192123.01bfeec0@incoming.verizon.net>
References: <b874372a05020211365f71776f@mail.gmail.com>
	<42094663.7070705@rogers.com>
	<6.1.0.6.0.20050209192123.01bfeec0@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050210040654318c16@mail.gmail.com>

Bob,

You're right about William. He is very proficient with whatever
software he's using for voice-to-text. Arthur, you ought to contact
him directly. Since the topic is apolitical, no fur should fly.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:25:38 -0500, Bob Geldart <bgeldart at verizon.net> wrote:
> Arthur,
> 
> I believe it was William Hindman on the Access-D list who used Dragon
> Software's "Naturally Speaking". Try the Archives for an OT subject on
> Carpal Tunnel. He seemed to use voice-recognition software quite
> extensively in his day-to-day computing.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Bob


From dba.email at gmail.com  Thu Feb 10 12:52:45 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:52:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] PCI-X vs. PCI Express
Message-ID: <5f2de24205021010521d6488d3@mail.gmail.com>

Group,

Does anyone know what the real-world, end user differences are between
these two specifications?  Is this a hardware interface difference, or
merely a software difference?  Which is more popular, or seems to be
more heavily supported?  Any downsides to either?

Many questions, I understand, but perusing the specifications
themselves doesn't give me a feel for how the market is responding.


Mark


From jon at tydda.plus.com  Thu Feb 10 17:47:41 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:47:41 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] PCI-X vs. PCI Express
In-Reply-To: <5f2de24205021010521d6488d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDAEICCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

If it's any help, I've not heard of PCI-X... only PCI Express. And I know
that already it's getting fairly hard to find motherboards with AGP graphics
on them any more.


Jon

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Sent: 10 February 2005 18:53
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] PCI-X vs. PCI Express


Group,

Does anyone know what the real-world, end user differences are between
these two specifications?  Is this a hardware interface difference, or
merely a software difference?  Which is more popular, or seems to be
more heavily supported?  Any downsides to either?

Many questions, I understand, but perusing the specifications
themselves doesn't give me a feel for how the market is responding.


Mark
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Fri Feb 11 03:21:37 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:21:37 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D23A0@ALCUXB>

Sorry for the cross post, but I thought this was worth it...
 
Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products
 
By John
<http://forms.theregister.co.uk/mail_author/?story_url=/2005/02/10/symantec_
uberbug/> Leyden
Published Thursday 10th February 2005 11:26 GMT

A cross-platform flaw affecting many Symantec security products - both
consumer and enterprise - has been discovered. Users of Symantec's Norton
SystemWorks 2004, Norton SystemWorks 2004 (both Mac and Windows), Norton
AntiVirus 2004, corporate anti-virus apps and Brightmail anti-spam software
(among others) all need to apply patches following the discovery of the "
highly critical <http://secunia.com/advisories/14179/> " security bug. In
all 30 packages are affected.

The vulnerability stems from a flaw in an antivirus scanning component
(called the DEC2EXE parsing engine) involving the processing of UPX
compressed files. Maliciously constructed UPX files could be created to
cause a heap-based buffer overflow. This in turn makes it possible for
malicious hackers to inject hostile code onto vulnerable systems, allowing
them to be taken over by attackers.

Symantec said the vulnerable EC2EXE engine is no longer required to parse
compressed files. It had already planned to dispense with the component
across its product range and the discovery of vulnerability by security
tools vendor ISS has simply brought forward this process. Update details are
here <http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/security/Content/2005.02.08.html> . ISS's
alert is here <http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/187> . 

 

In case the links don't work, here they are: 

http://secunia.com/advisories/14179/ <http://secunia.com/advisories/14179/> 

http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/security/Content/2005.02.08.html
<http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/security/Content/2005.02.08.html> 

http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/187
<http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/187> 

 

Jon



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From erbachs at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 10:10:24 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:10:24 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D23A0@ALCUXB>
References: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D23A0@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305021108108b61948@mail.gmail.com>

Jon,

I'm glad that I never upgraded from Norton 2003.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:21:37 -0000, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> wrote:
> Sorry for the cross post, but I thought this was worth it...
> 
> Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products
> 
> By John
> <http://forms.theregister.co.uk/mail_author/?story_url=/2005/02/10/symantec_
> uberbug/> Leyden
> Published Thursday 10th February 2005 11:26 GMT
> 
> A cross-platform flaw affecting many Symantec security products - both
> consumer and enterprise - has been discovered. Users of Symantec's Norton
> SystemWorks 2004, Norton SystemWorks 2004 (both Mac and Windows), Norton
> AntiVirus 2004, corporate anti-virus apps and Brightmail anti-spam software
> (among others) all need to apply patches following the discovery of the "
> highly critical <http://secunia.com/advisories/14179/> " security bug. In
> all 30 packages are affected.
>


From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Fri Feb 11 10:22:18 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:22:18 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D23C7@ALCUXB>

I use McAfee, seems to avoid the problem too :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
Sent: 11 February 2005 16:10
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products


Jon,

I'm glad that I never upgraded from Norton 2003.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:21:37 -0000, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>
wrote:
> Sorry for the cross post, but I thought this was worth it...
> 
> Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products
> 
> By John
>
<http://forms.theregister.co.uk/mail_author/?story_url=/2005/02/10/symantec_
> uberbug/> Leyden
> Published Thursday 10th February 2005 11:26 GMT
> 
> A cross-platform flaw affecting many Symantec security products - both
> consumer and enterprise - has been discovered. Users of Symantec's Norton
> SystemWorks 2004, Norton SystemWorks 2004 (both Mac and Windows), Norton
> AntiVirus 2004, corporate anti-virus apps and Brightmail anti-spam
software
> (among others) all need to apply patches following the discovery of the "
> highly critical <http://secunia.com/advisories/14179/> " security bug. In
> all 30 packages are affected.
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Feb 11 11:14:45 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:14:45 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] security product testing
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAeETvg7n5OkCmzzjkBXZMpAEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

I have been using CA's eTrust AV on a couple of client networks for about a
year now. It has updated itself almost every day throughout the year. I use
the "pull" type update feature to check the server to check for updates
every 3 hours and the workstations to check the server for updates every so
many hours. Works slick as the time period when checking occurs is different
on every workstation by a few minutes so network traffic load is not
affected at all.

It is very stable and has a lower memory footprint than MacAfee, it also
seems to clear up some of those nagging problems that occurred for no reason
when McAfee was the AV.

It is easy to use/admin compared to Norton Corp. Edition.

Very satisfied with it. 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------

CA's "EZ" home targeted security products are a bit different though so I've
been testing CA's EZ-AV, EZ-FW and Pest Patrol (which CA acquired last year)
on my main computer for about 2 months now.

Pest Patrol needs some UI work as CA has changed it a bit from the original
product but not enough. Updates work much better than the previous version.
And it does a great job on spy ware. I run the competition's scanners on my
machine every couple of weeks to see if it missed anything and so far only
ad ware cookies have turned up. So it would seem that they have improved
that too.

EZ-AV seems to be the same eTrust AV as the corporate edition with a more
"wizard-like UI" no complaints there.

EZ-FW is, from what I can tell-and I haven't been able to verify it yet,
Zone Alarm with a CA UI. That seems a bit odd but it would appear there is a
lot of partnering going on out there to combat Symantec's and McAfee's
security suites.


CA might be a big company that every loves to hate but their security
products are top notch

John B.



From john at winhaven.net  Fri Feb 11 11:07:21 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:07:21 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305021108108b61948@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAApv9YJLWfUkeTspcXMtJh9wEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Just a note on Norton Internet Security 2005. I recommend that people do not
upgrade to 2005 if they have 2003/2004. Its about 50/50 out there for
problems with 2005. The lucky people have no problems, the unlucky have
major headaches. I have had to help out numerous people who normally can
install an upgrade. One client - I had to turn off the liveupdate for one
component because the update disabled all communications and I could not
configure NIS at all after it was installed. This is a computer that has
very limited apps running on it (but one app is very specific for their
profession and I have no other client's using it so it may be a problem with
that application causing a conflict. The company that writes it does not yet
support SP2!)

John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products

Jon,

I'm glad that I never upgraded from Norton 2003.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:21:37 -0000, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>
wrote:
> Sorry for the cross post, but I thought this was worth it...
> 
> Symantec anti-virus flaw hits 30 products
> 
> By John
> <http://forms.theregister.co.uk/mail_author/?story_url=/2005/02/10/sym
> antec_
> uberbug/> Leyden
> Published Thursday 10th February 2005 11:26 GMT
> 
> A cross-platform flaw affecting many Symantec security products - both 
> consumer and enterprise - has been discovered. Users of Symantec's 
> Norton SystemWorks 2004, Norton SystemWorks 2004 (both Mac and 
> Windows), Norton AntiVirus 2004, corporate anti-virus apps and 
> Brightmail anti-spam software (among others) all need to apply patches
following the discovery of the "
> highly critical <http://secunia.com/advisories/14179/> " security bug. 
> In all 30 packages are affected.
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Feb 11 11:55:35 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:55:35 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] security product testing
Message-ID: <s20cffc7.050@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Same experience here.

/gustav

>>> john at winhaven.net 11-02-2005 18:14:45 >>>
I have been using CA's eTrust AV on a couple of client networks for
about a
year now. It has updated itself almost every day throughout the year. I
use
the "pull" type update feature to check the server to check for
updates
every 3 hours and the workstations to check the server for updates
every so
many hours. Works slick as the time period when checking occurs is
different
on every workstation by a few minutes so network traffic load is not
affected at all.

It is very stable and has a lower memory footprint than MacAfee, it
also
seems to clear up some of those nagging problems that occurred for no
reason
when McAfee was the AV.

It is easy to use/admin compared to Norton Corp. Edition.

Very satisfied with it. 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------

CA's "EZ" home targeted security products are a bit different though so
I've
been testing CA's EZ-AV, EZ-FW and Pest Patrol (which CA acquired last
year)
on my main computer for about 2 months now.

Pest Patrol needs some UI work as CA has changed it a bit from the
original
product but not enough. Updates work much better than the previous
version.
And it does a great job on spy ware. I run the competition's scanners
on my
machine every couple of weeks to see if it missed anything and so far
only
ad ware cookies have turned up. So it would seem that they have
improved
that too.

EZ-AV seems to be the same eTrust AV as the corporate edition with a
more
"wizard-like UI" no complaints there.

EZ-FW is, from what I can tell-and I haven't been able to verify it
yet,
Zone Alarm with a CA UI. That seems a bit odd but it would appear there
is a
lot of partnering going on out there to combat Symantec's and McAfee's
security suites.


CA might be a big company that every loves to hate but their security
products are top notch

John B.



From listmaster at databaseadvisors.com  Sat Feb 12 07:53:43 2005
From: listmaster at databaseadvisors.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:53:43 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Administrivia - List Down Temporarily
Message-ID: <420DC417.16251.564D22@localhost>

Sorry for the short notice folks, but the lists are going down at 
approx. 9am ET for an upgrade.

There was a security vulnerability found late this week in the 
software that runs our lists. This upgrade will take care of that.

We should be down for a couple of hours.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Bryan
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From listmaster at databaseadvisors.com  Sat Feb 12 09:12:07 2005
From: listmaster at databaseadvisors.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:12:07 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Administrivia - Lists Back Up
Message-ID: <420DD677.6783.9E167F@localhost>

The lists are back up and now patched. We are no longer vulnerable.

I hope this didn't cause too much inconvinience.

If you notice *ANYTHING* unusual in the next few days with the 
list(s), please let me know right away.

Thanks for your patience.
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Wed Feb 16 12:34:22 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:34:22 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Save screenshot as JPG
References: <s20cffc7.050@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <066f01c51456$299a53d0$0300a8c0@S856>

Hi everybody,

is there a way to make a screenshot from within Access and then save that as
.JPG (or :BMP)?
kind of self-portrait of an Acces form. :)

I think that it should be possible to use SENDKEYS to get the screenshot. but
then how to save it as a picture on the disk?

thanks for you help

Lembit Soobik




From john at winhaven.net  Wed Feb 16 13:11:38 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:11:38 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Save screenshot as JPG
In-Reply-To: <066f01c51456$299a53d0$0300a8c0@S856>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAAp3OYi5dCSkafG5hnfScoVgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Hi Lembit,

I recall someone had a module that would do this. It was part of a thread,
some time ago now, that concerned report distribution and saving as
something other than a pdf.

IIRC it was Brett Barabash [BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com] that had talked
about the module. I don't know if Bret is on the DBA-Tech list, If not try
the ACCESS-D list or direct email.

HTH
John B. 

 


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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:34 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Save screenshot as JPG

Hi everybody,

is there a way to make a screenshot from within Access and then save that as
.JPG (or :BMP)?
kind of self-portrait of an Acces form. :)

I think that it should be possible to use SENDKEYS to get the screenshot.
but then how to save it as a picture on the disk?

thanks for you help

Lembit Soobik


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 16 16:16:11 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:16:11 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Save screenshot as JPG
References: <s20cffc7.050@cactus.dk> <066f01c51456$299a53d0$0300a8c0@S856>
Message-ID: <4213C62B.3010603@shaw.ca>

Lembit Soobik wrote:

>Hi everybody,
>
>is there a way to make a screenshot from within Access and then save that as
>.JPG (or :BMP)?
>kind of self-portrait of an Acces form. :)
>
>I think that it should be possible to use SENDKEYS to get the screenshot. but
>then how to save it as a picture on the disk?
>
>thanks for you help
>
>Lembit Soobik
>  
>

Here is some relevant code that copies either a snapshot screen or form 
to the clipboard
and then dumps this as a bmp into a word document along with some other 
info like
the tasklist of processes. I believe you can get at clipboard in higher 
versions of Access in an easier fashion
but this was written a while ago for 97
The sub ErrorScreenReport  is the main call
If you want a test mdb I have one with a lot of my ancillary calls 
stripped out like determining OS version etc
for an emailable error report.


Sub ErrorReportToWord()
 'Dim ObjWord As Word.Application
  Dim ObjWord As Object
    Dim temp As String
    Dim strFileName As String
    Dim strErrDesc As String
    Dim strLoadTaskList As String
    Dim appPathAccess As String
    '  grab the Task List
    strLoadTaskList = LoadTaskList()
   ' On Error Resume Next

  ' Set ObjWord = New Word.Application
   Set ObjWord = CreateObject("Word.Application")
'   Disable command button to prevent object being recreated
'   If you have an error in here, it will litter memory with copies of word
'   so put in error handling

     ObjWord.Documents.Add
     ObjWord.Selection.Paste

strErrDesc = "Error No: " & Err.Number & "; Description: " & Err.Description
    'no range selected so text placed at end of document
      ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Size = 14
      ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Bold = True
      strErrDesc = strErrDesc & " Module name = ..." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
       ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Size = 10
      ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Bold = True
      strErrDesc = strErrDesc & strLoadTaskList
    ObjWord.ActiveDocument.Content.InsertAfter Text:=strErrDesc

'   Saves report with a new filename
'   Name of report file, change path to whatever is applicable
      appPathAccess = CurrentDBDir
      strFileName = appPathAccess & "ErrorReport"
      strFileName = strFileName & Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".doc"

    ObjWord.ActiveDocument.SaveAs (strFileName)
'   Quit Word
    ObjWord.Documents.Close
    ObjWord.Quit
'   Inform user that report is created
    MsgBox "Error Report Created in File" & vbCrLf & strFileName
'   Clear our pointer to word
    Set ObjWord = Nothing
End Sub


'Determining Which Tasks Are Running

'With the Microsoft Windows operating system,
'you can run any number of applications simultaneously.
'Occasionally, you may need to determine which tasks are currently being
'run.
'This can be accomplished by using several Windows application programming
'interface
'(API) functions.
'To find the names of all currently executing tasks,
'you must first determine the handle of the window that is currently
'at the top of the z-order. This, of course, would be the window of your
'own Microsoft Visual Basic application.
'You can use the Windows API GetWindow function to retrieve the handle
'of your application's window with the statement:

'    CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' To use in Access replace with the following
'     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
'The first argument of the GetWindow function is the handle of the window
'that is at the top of the z-order. In this case, this is the handle of
'Form1.

'The second argument of the GetWindow function specifies the window
'you want to retrieve the handle for.
'This argument can have one of the following values:

'  GW_CHILD Retrieve the handle for the child window.
'  GW_HWNDFIRST Retrieve the handle for the window at the top of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDLAST Retrieve the handle for the window at the bottom of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDNEXT Retrieve the handle of the window below the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_HWNDPREV Retrieve the handle of the window above the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_OWNER Retrieve the handle of the window that owns the specified
'window, if any.

'After you have retrieved the application's window handle,
'you can use the Windows API GetParent function to retrieve this window's
'child window handle. Next, you call the Windows API GetWindowText and
'GetWindowTextLength functions to retrieve the text in the window's title
'bar
'and the length of this text, respectively. You can then use the text string
'in your own application. For example, you can save the title bar text
'to a List Box control.

'All of the above steps are repeated until you have processed all running
'tasks.
'You know that you have gone through each task when the current window is
'that'of your own application.


Function LoadTaskList() As String
Dim CurrWnd As Long
Dim Length As Long
Dim TaskName As String
Dim Parent As Long
Dim parent_hwnd As Long
Dim strMyTaskList As String
  strMyTaskList = " Task List " & vbCrLf

' This line below works from VB form
'CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' get Parent Window Handle
     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
    If parent_hwnd = 0 Then
     MsgBox "Access Not Found"
      Exit Function
     End If
      'SetFocusAPI parent_hwnd
       CurrWnd = parent_hwnd
While CurrWnd <> 0
  Parent = GetParent(CurrWnd)
  Length = GetWindowTextLength(CurrWnd)
  TaskName = Space$(Length + 1)
  Length = GetWindowText(CurrWnd, TaskName, Length + 1)
  TaskName = Left$(TaskName, Len(TaskName) - 1)

  If Length > 0 Then
  'If TaskName <> Me.Caption Then
  'If TaskName <> "Microsoft Access" Then
     'List1.AddItem TaskName
     strMyTaskList = strMyTaskList & TaskName & vbCrLf
     Debug.Print TaskName
   'End If
  End If
  CurrWnd = GetWindow(CurrWnd, GW_HWNDNEXT)

    DoEvents
Wend
LoadTaskList = strMyTaskList
End Function
'
Function CurrentDBDir() As String
' get Current Database Path string
Dim strDBPath As String
Dim strDBFile As String
    strDBPath = CurrentDb.Name
    strDBFile = Dir(strDBPath)
    CurrentDBDir = Left(strDBPath, Len(strDBPath) - Len(strDBFile))
End Function


'_______________________________________________________
' Snap a picture of the screen and send error messages,
'  screen picture and tasklist to a word document
'________________________________________________________

Private Const VK_LWIN = &H5B 'Left window button
Private Const VK_RETURN = &HD  'ENTER key
Private Const VK_SHIFT = &H10 'SHIFT key
Private Const VK_CONTROL = &H11 'CTRL key
Private Const VK_MENU = &H12 'ALT key
Private Const VK_PAUSE = &H13 'PAUSE key
Private Const VK_CAPITAL = &H14 'CAPS LOCK key
Private Const VK_SNAPSHOT = &H2C  'Print Screen
Private Const VK_APPS = &H5D
         'Applications key on a Microsoft Natural Keyboard
'from http://support.microsoft.com/view/dev.asp?kb=242971

Const GW_HWNDFIRST = 0
Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
Private Const KEYEVENTF_KEYUP = &H2

Private Declare Sub keybd_event Lib "user32" (ByVal bVk As Byte, _
    ByVal bScan As Byte, ByVal dwflags As Long, ByVal dwExtraInfo As Long)
Private Declare Function GetWindow Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowTextLength Lib _
   "user32" Alias "GetWindowTextLengthA" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowText Lib "user32" _
   Alias "GetWindowTextA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal _
   lpString As String, ByVal cch As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindow Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowA" _
   (ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal lpWindowName As String) As Long
Private Declare Function SetFocusAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetFocus" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long

Sub OpenWindowsHelp()
' Open the Windows Help
'
' You can use the same technique to programmatically "press" any other
' key, including Shift, Ctrl, Alt and keys combinations that can't be
' simulated through SendKeys
    ' programmatically press the Windows key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, 0, 0
    ' then press and then release the F1 key
    keybd_event vbKeyF1, 0, 0, 0
    keybd_event vbKeyF1, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
    ' and finally release the Windows Key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
End Sub
Sub CloseAllWindows()
' Minimize all open windows
'Const acaltMask
    ' programmatically press the Windows key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, 0, 0
    ' then press and then release the M key
    keybd_event vbKeyM, 0, 0, 0
    keybd_event vbKeyM, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
    ' and finally release the Windows Key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
End Sub

Sub SnapPrintForm()
'use the following code inside form or focused window
'to simulate the Alt / PrintScreen = key combination:
'If form popup in Access will capture form
' programmatically press the ALT key
  '  keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, 0, 0
     ' then press and then release the PrtScreen key
  keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 1, 0, 0
  DoEvents
 '  keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
  ' and finally release the ALT Key
  '  keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0

End Sub
Sub SnapPrintScreen()
'To print the entire screen (rather than the current focused window
 'programmatically press the ALT key
    'keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, 0, 0
     ' then press and then release the PrtScreen key
    keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, 0, 0
    DoEvents
    'keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
  ' and finally release the ALT Key
    'keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
' The second argument for the keybd_event call is the hardware scan code,
' and, in this case, you could use the value 1. This may have to change
' with Win 2000
' However, applications should not use this scan code according to Microsoft
' The screen is now captured in the clipboard as a bmp
End Sub
Sub SnapZoom()
'use the following code inside form or focused window
'to simulate the F/.Shift = key combination:

     ' then press and then release the F2 Shift key
     'order of pressing important
     keybd_event vbKeyShift, 0, 0, 0
      keybd_event vbKeyF2, 0, 0, 0
     
      
    keybd_event vbKeyF2, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
    'weird things happen if you don't up the shiftkey looks like capslock
    keybd_event vbKeyShift, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
 
  DoEvents
 
End Sub

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Thu Feb 17 05:39:06 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:39:06 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Save screenshot as JPG
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Message-ID: <06c901c514e5$4a1b0c00$0300a8c0@S856>

Thank you, John,
I will ask Brett for more info

Lembit Soobik

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Save screenshot as JPG


> Hi Lembit,
>
> I recall someone had a module that would do this. It was part of a thread,
> some time ago now, that concerned report distribution and saving as
> something other than a pdf.
>
> IIRC it was Brett Barabash [BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com] that had talked
> about the module. I don't know if Bret is on the DBA-Tech list, If not try
> the ACCESS-D list or direct email.
>
> HTH
> John B.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Save screenshot as JPG
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> is there a way to make a screenshot from within Access and then save that as
> .JPG (or :BMP)?
> kind of self-portrait of an Acces form. :)
>
> I think that it should be possible to use SENDKEYS to get the screenshot.
> but then how to save it as a picture on the disk?
>
> thanks for you help
>
> Lembit Soobik
>
>
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Thu Feb 17 05:37:31 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:37:31 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Save screenshot as JPG
References: <s20cffc7.050@cactus.dk> <066f01c51456$299a53d0$0300a8c0@S856>
	<4213C62B.3010603@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <06c301c514e5$115756d0$0300a8c0@S856>

Thank you so much, Marty,
I will try this out later today.
And thanks a lot for the offer. Yes, I would appreciate the test mdb
my email is lembit.soobik at t-online.de
Lembit Soobik

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Save screenshot as JPG


> Lembit Soobik wrote:
>
> >Hi everybody,
> >
> >is there a way to make a screenshot from within Access and then save that as
> >.JPG (or :BMP)?
> >kind of self-portrait of an Acces form. :)
> >
> >I think that it should be possible to use SENDKEYS to get the screenshot. but
> >then how to save it as a picture on the disk?
> >
> >thanks for you help
> >
> >Lembit Soobik
> >
> >
>
> Here is some relevant code that copies either a snapshot screen or form
> to the clipboard
> and then dumps this as a bmp into a word document along with some other
> info like
> the tasklist of processes. I believe you can get at clipboard in higher
> versions of Access in an easier fashion
> but this was written a while ago for 97
> The sub ErrorScreenReport  is the main call
> If you want a test mdb I have one with a lot of my ancillary calls
> stripped out like determining OS version etc
> for an emailable error report.
>
>
> Sub ErrorReportToWord()
>  'Dim ObjWord As Word.Application
>   Dim ObjWord As Object
>     Dim temp As String
>     Dim strFileName As String
>     Dim strErrDesc As String
>     Dim strLoadTaskList As String
>     Dim appPathAccess As String
>     '  grab the Task List
>     strLoadTaskList = LoadTaskList()
>    ' On Error Resume Next
>
>   ' Set ObjWord = New Word.Application
>    Set ObjWord = CreateObject("Word.Application")
> '   Disable command button to prevent object being recreated
> '   If you have an error in here, it will litter memory with copies of word
> '   so put in error handling
>
>      ObjWord.Documents.Add
>      ObjWord.Selection.Paste
>
> strErrDesc = "Error No: " & Err.Number & "; Description: " & Err.Description
>     'no range selected so text placed at end of document
>       ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Size = 14
>       ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Bold = True
>       strErrDesc = strErrDesc & " Module name = ..." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
>        ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Size = 10
>       ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Bold = True
>       strErrDesc = strErrDesc & strLoadTaskList
>     ObjWord.ActiveDocument.Content.InsertAfter Text:=strErrDesc
>
> '   Saves report with a new filename
> '   Name of report file, change path to whatever is applicable
>       appPathAccess = CurrentDBDir
>       strFileName = appPathAccess & "ErrorReport"
>       strFileName = strFileName & Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".doc"
>
>     ObjWord.ActiveDocument.SaveAs (strFileName)
> '   Quit Word
>     ObjWord.Documents.Close
>     ObjWord.Quit
> '   Inform user that report is created
>     MsgBox "Error Report Created in File" & vbCrLf & strFileName
> '   Clear our pointer to word
>     Set ObjWord = Nothing
> End Sub
>
>
> 'Determining Which Tasks Are Running
>
> 'With the Microsoft Windows operating system,
> 'you can run any number of applications simultaneously.
> 'Occasionally, you may need to determine which tasks are currently being
> 'run.
> 'This can be accomplished by using several Windows application programming
> 'interface
> '(API) functions.
> 'To find the names of all currently executing tasks,
> 'you must first determine the handle of the window that is currently
> 'at the top of the z-order. This, of course, would be the window of your
> 'own Microsoft Visual Basic application.
> 'You can use the Windows API GetWindow function to retrieve the handle
> 'of your application's window with the statement:
>
> '    CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
> ' To use in Access replace with the following
> '     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
> 'The first argument of the GetWindow function is the handle of the window
> 'that is at the top of the z-order. In this case, this is the handle of
> 'Form1.
>
> 'The second argument of the GetWindow function specifies the window
> 'you want to retrieve the handle for.
> 'This argument can have one of the following values:
>
> '  GW_CHILD Retrieve the handle for the child window.
> '  GW_HWNDFIRST Retrieve the handle for the window at the top of the z-
> 'order.
> '  GW_HWNDLAST Retrieve the handle for the window at the bottom of the z-
> 'order.
> '  GW_HWNDNEXT Retrieve the handle of the window below the specified window
> 'in the z-order.
> '  GW_HWNDPREV Retrieve the handle of the window above the specified window
> 'in the z-order.
> '  GW_OWNER Retrieve the handle of the window that owns the specified
> 'window, if any.
>
> 'After you have retrieved the application's window handle,
> 'you can use the Windows API GetParent function to retrieve this window's
> 'child window handle. Next, you call the Windows API GetWindowText and
> 'GetWindowTextLength functions to retrieve the text in the window's title
> 'bar
> 'and the length of this text, respectively. You can then use the text string
> 'in your own application. For example, you can save the title bar text
> 'to a List Box control.
>
> 'All of the above steps are repeated until you have processed all running
> 'tasks.
> 'You know that you have gone through each task when the current window is
> 'that'of your own application.
>
>
> Function LoadTaskList() As String
> Dim CurrWnd As Long
> Dim Length As Long
> Dim TaskName As String
> Dim Parent As Long
> Dim parent_hwnd As Long
> Dim strMyTaskList As String
>   strMyTaskList = " Task List " & vbCrLf
>
> ' This line below works from VB form
> 'CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
> ' get Parent Window Handle
>      parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
>     If parent_hwnd = 0 Then
>      MsgBox "Access Not Found"
>       Exit Function
>      End If
>       'SetFocusAPI parent_hwnd
>        CurrWnd = parent_hwnd
> While CurrWnd <> 0
>   Parent = GetParent(CurrWnd)
>   Length = GetWindowTextLength(CurrWnd)
>   TaskName = Space$(Length + 1)
>   Length = GetWindowText(CurrWnd, TaskName, Length + 1)
>   TaskName = Left$(TaskName, Len(TaskName) - 1)
>
>   If Length > 0 Then
>   'If TaskName <> Me.Caption Then
>   'If TaskName <> "Microsoft Access" Then
>      'List1.AddItem TaskName
>      strMyTaskList = strMyTaskList & TaskName & vbCrLf
>      Debug.Print TaskName
>    'End If
>   End If
>   CurrWnd = GetWindow(CurrWnd, GW_HWNDNEXT)
>
>     DoEvents
> Wend
> LoadTaskList = strMyTaskList
> End Function
> '
> Function CurrentDBDir() As String
> ' get Current Database Path string
> Dim strDBPath As String
> Dim strDBFile As String
>     strDBPath = CurrentDb.Name
>     strDBFile = Dir(strDBPath)
>     CurrentDBDir = Left(strDBPath, Len(strDBPath) - Len(strDBFile))
> End Function
>
>
> '_______________________________________________________
> ' Snap a picture of the screen and send error messages,
> '  screen picture and tasklist to a word document
> '________________________________________________________
>
> Private Const VK_LWIN = &H5B 'Left window button
> Private Const VK_RETURN = &HD  'ENTER key
> Private Const VK_SHIFT = &H10 'SHIFT key
> Private Const VK_CONTROL = &H11 'CTRL key
> Private Const VK_MENU = &H12 'ALT key
> Private Const VK_PAUSE = &H13 'PAUSE key
> Private Const VK_CAPITAL = &H14 'CAPS LOCK key
> Private Const VK_SNAPSHOT = &H2C  'Print Screen
> Private Const VK_APPS = &H5D
>          'Applications key on a Microsoft Natural Keyboard
> 'from http://support.microsoft.com/view/dev.asp?kb=242971
>
> Const GW_HWNDFIRST = 0
> Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
> Private Const KEYEVENTF_KEYUP = &H2
>
> Private Declare Sub keybd_event Lib "user32" (ByVal bVk As Byte, _
>     ByVal bScan As Byte, ByVal dwflags As Long, ByVal dwExtraInfo As Long)
> Private Declare Function GetWindow Lib "user32" _
>    (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
> Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" _
>    (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
> Private Declare Function GetWindowTextLength Lib _
>    "user32" Alias "GetWindowTextLengthA" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
> Private Declare Function GetWindowText Lib "user32" _
>    Alias "GetWindowTextA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal _
>    lpString As String, ByVal cch As Long) As Long
> Private Declare Function FindWindow Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowA" _
>    (ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal lpWindowName As String) As Long
> Private Declare Function SetFocusAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetFocus" _
>    (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
>
> Sub OpenWindowsHelp()
> ' Open the Windows Help
> '
> ' You can use the same technique to programmatically "press" any other
> ' key, including Shift, Ctrl, Alt and keys combinations that can't be
> ' simulated through SendKeys
>     ' programmatically press the Windows key
>     keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, 0, 0
>     ' then press and then release the F1 key
>     keybd_event vbKeyF1, 0, 0, 0
>     keybd_event vbKeyF1, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
>     ' and finally release the Windows Key
>     keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
> End Sub
> Sub CloseAllWindows()
> ' Minimize all open windows
> 'Const acaltMask
>     ' programmatically press the Windows key
>     keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, 0, 0
>     ' then press and then release the M key
>     keybd_event vbKeyM, 0, 0, 0
>     keybd_event vbKeyM, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
>     ' and finally release the Windows Key
>     keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
> End Sub
>
> Sub SnapPrintForm()
> 'use the following code inside form or focused window
> 'to simulate the Alt / PrintScreen = key combination:
> 'If form popup in Access will capture form
> ' programmatically press the ALT key
>   '  keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, 0, 0
>      ' then press and then release the PrtScreen key
>   keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 1, 0, 0
>   DoEvents
>  '  keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
>   ' and finally release the ALT Key
>   '  keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
>
> End Sub
> Sub SnapPrintScreen()
> 'To print the entire screen (rather than the current focused window
>  'programmatically press the ALT key
>     'keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, 0, 0
>      ' then press and then release the PrtScreen key
>     keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, 0, 0
>     DoEvents
>     'keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
>   ' and finally release the ALT Key
>     'keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
> ' The second argument for the keybd_event call is the hardware scan code,
> ' and, in this case, you could use the value 1. This may have to change
> ' with Win 2000
> ' However, applications should not use this scan code according to Microsoft
> ' The screen is now captured in the clipboard as a bmp
> End Sub
> Sub SnapZoom()
> 'use the following code inside form or focused window
> 'to simulate the F/.Shift = key combination:
>
>      ' then press and then release the F2 Shift key
>      'order of pressing important
>      keybd_event vbKeyShift, 0, 0, 0
>       keybd_event vbKeyF2, 0, 0, 0
>
>
>     keybd_event vbKeyF2, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
>     'weird things happen if you don't up the shiftkey looks like capslock
>     keybd_event vbKeyShift, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
>
>   DoEvents
>
> End Sub
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Fri Feb 18 04:21:12 2005
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:21:12 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] HTML Help index HOW-TOs questions...
Message-ID: <005201c515a3$b3d3c560$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>

Hi All,

I did try to find answers by myself but they do to seem to be that quick as
I wanted.
Maybe I'm missing something.

Do you have the answers on the following two questions presented in .jpeg
pics?:

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/faq/hhq1.jpg (64250 bytes)
http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/faq/hhq2.jpg (105495 bytes)

I would be very grateful for any tips, tricks, solutions...

I expect the answer is to use <OBJECT> tag but the secret should be in its
related <PARAM> tags.
And the info on <PARAM> tag is insufficient for me to find a solution.
E.g. for second question I know how to make the dialog shown with the list
of related topics but with ONE column only and I wanted to be able also to
control the size of this dialog....

Shamil
--
Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s



From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Fri Feb 18 10:15:14 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:15:14 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
References: <005201c515a3$b3d3c560$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <000d01c515d5$0821fe30$0300a8c0@S856>

Please help

I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1 hour ago.
after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
It is not in the deleted folder
I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming folder

I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as modified by
GoBack,
but id did not bring the mail back

any ideas where to search or for what files to search?

thank you
Lembit Soobik






From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Fri Feb 18 10:33:38 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:33:38 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2430@ALCUXB>

Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.


Jon
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


Please help

I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1 hour ago.
after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
It is not in the deleted folder
I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming folder

I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as modified by
GoBack,
but id did not bring the mail back

any ideas where to search or for what files to search?

thank you
Lembit Soobik




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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Feb 18 10:33:39 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:33:39 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
In-Reply-To: <000d01c515d5$0821fe30$0300a8c0@S856>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAA7c7UjD85GkCBcASsPuJ+UgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Lembit,
In Outlook Express click:
Tools
Options
Maintenance Tab
Store Folder
It probably shows a long and unwieldy path to your email storage folder
(which will contain a number of .dbx files
This is the folder you need to recover and the files within it are what you
are looking for.


BTW: The first thing I do on a client machine where Outlook Express is used
is to move the store folder to one I create called "My Documents\Email". I
recommend everyone do the same.

HTH!
John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:15 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty

Please help

I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1 hour ago.
after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
It is not in the deleted folder
I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok seems nothing else
lost besides the mails in the incomming folder

I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as modified by
GoBack, but id did not bring the mail back

any ideas where to search or for what files to search?

thank you
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Fri Feb 18 10:44:56 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:44:56 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
References: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2430@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <003201c515d9$2da287c0$0400a8c0@m2533>

thank you, Jon,

now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
*** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xBB6778F9)
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

anybody know what this means?

I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Tydda" <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


> Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
>
>
> Jon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
>
> Please help
>
> I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1 hour ago.
> after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> It is not in the deleted folder
> I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming folder
>
> I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as modified
by
> GoBack,
> but id did not bring the mail back
>
> any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
>
> thank you
> Lembit Soobik
>
>
>
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Fri Feb 18 10:51:50 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:51:50 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2432@ALCUXB>

Doh, I meant dbx, not mbx... not thinking straight today. As for the blue
screen, I'd say there was an IRQ conflict somewhere, but I've not seen one
cause a blue screen before.

They're a bugger to fix in 2k as well. Do you have your original 2k
installation cd? Boot from it and do a repair install, see if that helps.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
Sent: 18 February 2005 16:45
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


thank you, Jon,

now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
*** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xBB6778F9)
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

anybody know what this means?

I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Tydda" <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


> Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
>
>
> Jon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
>
> Please help
>
> I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1 hour ago.
> after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> It is not in the deleted folder
> I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming folder
>
> I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as modified
by
> GoBack,
> but id did not bring the mail back
>
> any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
>
> thank you
> Lembit Soobik
>
>
>
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Feb 18 10:56:30 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:56:30 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
In-Reply-To: <003201c515d9$2da287c0$0400a8c0@m2533>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAAunBxcTtw3E+OefYxalRsDAEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Have you added any hardware? If so remove it and boot into Safe Mode then go
into the hardware manager and remove the drivers for it. Reboot into normal
(Dangerous?) Mode and attempt the same procedure. If you don't get the blue
screen then you've found your culprit.

If not I suggest you Go Back a few more hours or days. Of course you'll want
to copy any modified files to another media before doing this. Unless you
have the newer version of Go Back which IIRC lets you restore only certain
files.


John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:45 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty

thank you, Jon,

now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
*** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xBB6778F9)
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

anybody know what this means?

I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Tydda" <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


> Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
>
>
> Jon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
>
> Please help
>
> I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1 hour ago.
> after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> It is not in the deleted folder
> I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming folder
>
> I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as modified
by
> GoBack,
> but id did not bring the mail back
>
> any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
>
> thank you
> Lembit Soobik
>
>
>
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Feb 18 09:56:59 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:56:59 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
Message-ID: <20050218165655.EB3442BE30D@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Lembit
When we've had that (once or twice) it's needed a new motherboard. Sorry.

And your mail data will probably be a file called Inbox.dbx, which I hope
you have backed up!

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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
Date: 18/02/05 16:46

>
> thank you, Jon,
>
> now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
> *** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xBB6778F9)
> DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
>
> anybody know what this means?
>
> I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Jon Tydda&quot; &lt;Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk&gt;
> To: &quot;'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'&quot;
> &lt;dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
>
> &gt; Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; Jon
> &gt; -----Original Message-----
> &gt; From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> &gt; Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> &gt; To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> &gt; Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; Please help
> &gt;
> &gt; I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1 hour
ago.
> &gt; after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> &gt; It is not in the deleted folder
> &gt; I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> &gt; seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming folder
> &gt;
> &gt; I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as
modified
> by
> &gt; GoBack,
> &gt; but id did not bring the mail back
> &gt;
> &gt; any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
> &gt;
> &gt; thank you
> &gt; Lembit Soobik
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Fri Feb 18 11:02:23 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:02:23 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
References: <20050218165655.EB3442BE30D@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <006901c515db$9d5e9610$0400a8c0@m2533>

Thank you, Andy, Jon and John,

working now with your info and recommendations

Lembit

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From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


> Lembit
> When we've had that (once or twice) it's needed a new motherboard. Sorry.
>
> And your mail data will probably be a file called Inbox.dbx, which I hope
> you have backed up!
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> Date: 18/02/05 16:46
>
> >
> > thank you, Jon,
> >
> > now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
> > *** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xBB6778F9)
> > DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
> >
> > anybody know what this means?
> >
> > I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: &quot;Jon Tydda&quot; &lt;Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk&gt;
> > To: &quot;'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'&quot;
> > &lt;dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> >
> >
> > &gt; Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt; Jon
> > &gt; -----Original Message-----
> > &gt; From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> > &gt; Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> > &gt; To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > &gt; Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt; Please help
> > &gt;
> > &gt; I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1 hour
> ago.
> > &gt; after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> > &gt; It is not in the deleted folder
> > &gt; I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> > &gt; seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming folder
> > &gt;
> > &gt; I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as
> modified
> > by
> > &gt; GoBack,
> > &gt; but id did not bring the mail back
> > &gt;
> > &gt; any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
> > &gt;
> > &gt; thank you
> > &gt; Lembit Soobik
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Fri Feb 18 11:36:05 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:36:05 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
References: <20050218165655.EB3442BE30D@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
	<006901c515db$9d5e9610$0400a8c0@m2533>
Message-ID: <007f01c515e0$597c67b0$0400a8c0@m2533>

I do need a little more help, please:
I did find the folder with all the OE files.
there is the problem:
it has two files for the inbox:
one large named Posteingang....
and the other Posteingang(1)...
so it has created a new file and is pointing to the new file Posteingang(1)
any idea how i can get to OE pointing to the old file?
I have done this:
- copied both to a safe place
- renamed Posteingang(1) to weg(1)
- opened OE, but mails did not show up - closed OE
- renamed Posteingang to Posteingang(1)
still no success

anything else I can try?

Lembit
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From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.soobik at t-online.de>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


> Thank you, Andy, Jon and John,
>
> working now with your info and recommendations
>
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
>
> > Lembit
> > When we've had that (once or twice) it's needed a new motherboard.
Sorry.
> >
> > And your mail data will probably be a file called Inbox.dbx, which I
hope
> > you have backed up!
> >
> > --
> > Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > --------- Original Message --------
> > From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > Date: 18/02/05 16:46
> >
> > >
> > > thank you, Jon,
> > >
> > > now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
> > > *** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xBB6778F9)
> > > DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
> > >
> > > anybody know what this means?
> > >
> > > I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: &quot;Jon Tydda&quot; &lt;Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk&gt;
> > > To: &quot;'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'&quot;
> > > &lt;dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > >
> > >
> > > &gt; Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Jon
> > > &gt; -----Original Message-----
> > > &gt; From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> > > &gt; Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> > > &gt; To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > &gt; Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Please help
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1
hour
> > ago.
> > > &gt; after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> > > &gt; It is not in the deleted folder
> > > &gt; I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> > > &gt; seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming folder
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as
> > modified
> > > by
> > > &gt; GoBack,
> > > &gt; but id did not bring the mail back
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; thank you
> > > &gt; Lembit Soobik
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Fri Feb 18 12:06:03 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:06:03 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
References: <20050218165655.EB3442BE30D@smtp.nildram.co.uk><006901c515db$9d5e9610$0400a8c0@m2533>
	<007f01c515e0$597c67b0$0400a8c0@m2533>
Message-ID: <00a901c515e4$82ad4f10$0400a8c0@m2533>

I have now tried to import that file to a different computer OE, but it will
only take the empty Inbox, not the one i want, no matter how I rename it

wellllll, ok, I got my Inbox back now :)
what I had overlooked when renaming it was that there has to be a blank
between Posteingang   and   (1)
after renaming it this way I can see the inbox in OE

thank you all for your help
Lembit
:))))
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.soobik at t-online.de>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


> I do need a little more help, please:
> I did find the folder with all the OE files.
> there is the problem:
> it has two files for the inbox:
> one large named Posteingang....
> and the other Posteingang(1)...
> so it has created a new file and is pointing to the new file
Posteingang(1)
> any idea how i can get to OE pointing to the old file?
> I have done this:
> - copied both to a safe place
> - renamed Posteingang(1) to weg(1)
> - opened OE, but mails did not show up - closed OE
> - renamed Posteingang to Posteingang(1)
> still no success
>
> anything else I can try?
>
> Lembit
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.soobik at t-online.de>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
>
> > Thank you, Andy, Jon and John,
> >
> > working now with your info and recommendations
> >
> > Lembit
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> >
> >
> > > Lembit
> > > When we've had that (once or twice) it's needed a new motherboard.
> Sorry.
> > >
> > > And your mail data will probably be a file called Inbox.dbx, which I
> hope
> > > you have backed up!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andy Lacey
> > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --------- Original Message --------
> > > From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > > Date: 18/02/05 16:46
> > >
> > > >
> > > > thank you, Jon,
> > > >
> > > > now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
> > > > *** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001,
0xBB6778F9)
> > > > DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
> > > >
> > > > anybody know what this means?
> > > >
> > > > I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: &quot;Jon Tydda&quot; &lt;Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk&gt;
> > > > To: &quot;'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'&quot;
> > > > &lt;dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder
empty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > &gt; Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; Jon
> > > > &gt; -----Original Message-----
> > > > &gt; From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> > > > &gt; Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> > > > &gt; To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > > &gt; Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder
empty
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; Please help
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1
> hour
> > > ago.
> > > > &gt; after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> > > > &gt; It is not in the deleted folder
> > > > &gt; I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> > > > &gt; seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming
folder
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows
as
> > > modified
> > > > by
> > > > &gt; GoBack,
> > > > &gt; but id did not bring the mail back
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; thank you
> > > > &gt; Lembit Soobik
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
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> S60
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Feb 18 12:06:39 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:06:39 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
In-Reply-To: <007f01c515e0$597c67b0$0400a8c0@m2533>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAA95Hu0NO+DUSXEpaxiUWfRgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Lembit,
Create a new folder: I'll call it "C:\NewMail" then copy the Posteingang.dbx
file to this folder.
(I'm assuming that's what the German version uses as the default name for
the InBox file the English version uses)

In Outlook Express click:
Tools
Options
Maintenance Tab
Store Folder
Change...
C:\NewMail
OK
OE will tell there appears to be an OE message store already there...
Click Yes, OK, OK and close OE then reopen it
You should now have an Inbox (or a Posteingang)
You can now import the other file using the Fdile Import options and while
doing this tell it not to create duplicates.

John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:36 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty

I do need a little more help, please:
I did find the folder with all the OE files.
there is the problem:
it has two files for the inbox:
one large named Posteingang....
and the other Posteingang(1)...
so it has created a new file and is pointing to the new file Posteingang(1)
any idea how i can get to OE pointing to the old file?
I have done this:
- copied both to a safe place
- renamed Posteingang(1) to weg(1)
- opened OE, but mails did not show up - closed OE
- renamed Posteingang to Posteingang(1)
still no success

anything else I can try?

Lembit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.soobik at t-online.de>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


> Thank you, Andy, Jon and John,
>
> working now with your info and recommendations
>
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
>
> > Lembit
> > When we've had that (once or twice) it's needed a new motherboard.
Sorry.
> >
> > And your mail data will probably be a file called Inbox.dbx, which I
hope
> > you have backed up!
> >
> > --
> > Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > --------- Original Message --------
> > From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > Date: 18/02/05 16:46
> >
> > >
> > > thank you, Jon,
> > >
> > > now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
> > > *** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xBB6778F9)
> > > DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
> > >
> > > anybody know what this means?
> > >
> > > I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: &quot;Jon Tydda&quot; &lt;Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk&gt;
> > > To: &quot;'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'&quot;
> > > &lt;dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > >
> > >
> > > &gt; Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Jon
> > > &gt; -----Original Message-----
> > > &gt; From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> > > &gt; Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> > > &gt; To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > &gt; Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Please help
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1
hour
> > ago.
> > > &gt; after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> > > &gt; It is not in the deleted folder
> > > &gt; I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> > > &gt; seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming folder
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows as
> > modified
> > > by
> > > &gt; GoBack,
> > > &gt; but id did not bring the mail back
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; thank you
> > > &gt; Lembit Soobik
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; _______________________________________________
> > > &gt; dba-Tech mailing list
> > > &gt; dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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> > > &gt; privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are
> > subject
> > > &gt; to the legal notice available on request from :
> > webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk
> > > &gt; ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK
> Limited.
> > > &gt; Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham,
S60
> > 1BZ.
> > > &gt; Registered in England and Wales No 4057291
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Feb 18 12:09:56 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:09:56 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
In-Reply-To: <00a901c515e4$82ad4f10$0400a8c0@m2533>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7UKAAAAQAAAAh6bilgRUAE+bn7Dw8nA+vwEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Lembit,
We have a bit of lag time between our posts :o) 


John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:06 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty

I have now tried to import that file to a different computer OE, but it will
only take the empty Inbox, not the one i want, no matter how I rename it

wellllll, ok, I got my Inbox back now :) what I had overlooked when renaming
it was that there has to be a blank
between Posteingang   and   (1)
after renaming it this way I can see the inbox in OE

thank you all for your help
Lembit
:))))
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.soobik at t-online.de>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


> I do need a little more help, please:
> I did find the folder with all the OE files.
> there is the problem:
> it has two files for the inbox:
> one large named Posteingang....
> and the other Posteingang(1)...
> so it has created a new file and is pointing to the new file
Posteingang(1)
> any idea how i can get to OE pointing to the old file?
> I have done this:
> - copied both to a safe place
> - renamed Posteingang(1) to weg(1)
> - opened OE, but mails did not show up - closed OE
> - renamed Posteingang to Posteingang(1)
> still no success
>
> anything else I can try?
>
> Lembit
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.soobik at t-online.de>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
>
> > Thank you, Andy, Jon and John,
> >
> > working now with your info and recommendations
> >
> > Lembit
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> >
> >
> > > Lembit
> > > When we've had that (once or twice) it's needed a new motherboard.
> Sorry.
> > >
> > > And your mail data will probably be a file called Inbox.dbx, which I
> hope
> > > you have backed up!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andy Lacey
> > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > > Date: 18/02/05 16:46
> > >
> > > >
> > > > thank you, Jon,
> > > >
> > > > now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
> > > > *** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001,
0xBB6778F9)
> > > > DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
> > > >
> > > > anybody know what this means?
> > > >
> > > > I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: &quot;Jon Tydda&quot; &lt;Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk&gt;
> > > > To: &quot;'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'&quot;
> > > > &lt;dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder
empty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > &gt; Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; Jon
> > > > &gt; -----Original Message-----
> > > > &gt; From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> > > > &gt; Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> > > > &gt; To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > > &gt; Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder
empty
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; Please help
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1
> hour
> > > ago.
> > > > &gt; after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> > > > &gt; It is not in the deleted folder
> > > > &gt; I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> > > > &gt; seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming
folder
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows
as
> > > modified
> > > > by
> > > > &gt; GoBack,
> > > > &gt; but id did not bring the mail back
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; thank you
> > > > &gt; Lembit Soobik
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Fri Feb 18 12:12:56 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:12:56 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAA95Hu0NO+DUSXEpaxiUWfRgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <00bd01c515e5$78aaca00$0400a8c0@m2533>

thank you, John,
I have just got it back by renaming,
but I am right now importing to a different PC for backup
thanks again, everyone for the great help
Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty


> Lembit,
> Create a new folder: I'll call it "C:\NewMail" then copy the
Posteingang.dbx
> file to this folder.
> (I'm assuming that's what the German version uses as the default name for
> the InBox file the English version uses)
>
> In Outlook Express click:
> Tools
> Options
> Maintenance Tab
> Store Folder
> Change...
> C:\NewMail
> OK
> OE will tell there appears to be an OE message store already there...
> Click Yes, OK, OK and close OE then reopen it
> You should now have an Inbox (or a Posteingang)
> You can now import the other file using the Fdile Import options and while
> doing this tell it not to create duplicates.
>
> John B.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:36 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
> I do need a little more help, please:
> I did find the folder with all the OE files.
> there is the problem:
> it has two files for the inbox:
> one large named Posteingang....
> and the other Posteingang(1)...
> so it has created a new file and is pointing to the new file
Posteingang(1)
> any idea how i can get to OE pointing to the old file?
> I have done this:
> - copied both to a safe place
> - renamed Posteingang(1) to weg(1)
> - opened OE, but mails did not show up - closed OE
> - renamed Posteingang to Posteingang(1)
> still no success
>
> anything else I can try?
>
> Lembit
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.soobik at t-online.de>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
>
>
> > Thank you, Andy, Jon and John,
> >
> > working now with your info and recommendations
> >
> > Lembit
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> >
> >
> > > Lembit
> > > When we've had that (once or twice) it's needed a new motherboard.
> Sorry.
> > >
> > > And your mail data will probably be a file called Inbox.dbx, which I
> hope
> > > you have backed up!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andy Lacey
> > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --------- Original Message --------
> > > From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder empty
> > > Date: 18/02/05 16:46
> > >
> > > >
> > > > thank you, Jon,
> > > >
> > > > now I got again the blue screen. it reads:
> > > > *** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001,
0xBB6778F9)
> > > > DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
> > > >
> > > > anybody know what this means?
> > > >
> > > > I guess I have to go further back with GoBack?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: &quot;Jon Tydda&quot; &lt;Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk&gt;
> > > > To: &quot;'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'&quot;
> > > > &lt;dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:33 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder
empty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > &gt; Do a search for *.mbx files, they're your mailboxes I think.
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; Jon
> > > > &gt; -----Original Message-----
> > > > &gt; From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.soobik at t-online.de]
> > > > &gt; Sent: 18 February 2005 16:15
> > > > &gt; To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > > &gt; Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Express - Incomming Mail folder
empty
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; Please help
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; I had some blue screens on my Win2000pro and did a GoBack to 1
> hour
> > > ago.
> > > > &gt; after that all mail in the Incomming Mail Folder is lost.
> > > > &gt; It is not in the deleted folder
> > > > &gt; I have looked at many other folders and they are all ok
> > > > &gt; seems nothing else lost besides the mails in the incomming
folder
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; I have tried and restored some of the files that Goback shows
as
> > > modified
> > > > by
> > > > &gt; GoBack,
> > > > &gt; but id did not bring the mail back
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; any ideas where to search or for what files to search?
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt; thank you
> > > > &gt; Lembit Soobik
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Feb 18 13:16:48 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:16:48 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
Message-ID: <003201c515ee$6528a750$123a11d8@danwaters>

I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.

 

1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.

 

2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.

 

3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?

 

So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!

 

Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems



From jon at tydda.plus.com  Fri Feb 18 15:10:30 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:10:30 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <003201c515ee$6528a750$123a11d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDOEKGCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Feb 18 15:24:28 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:24:28 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <25394358.1108761412731.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
Message-ID: <004001c51600$3ac9c540$123a11d8@danwaters>

Jon,

But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a time.
Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a
different PC so I can copy back?

Dan

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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From dbatech at wolfwares.com  Fri Feb 18 15:48:15 2005
From: dbatech at wolfwares.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:48:15 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <004001c51600$3ac9c540$123a11d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <HCEKKCDKADBCBMOJIMDHMEOMEPAA.dbatech@wolfwares.com>

You can get Laptop IDE drive 'cases' which will plug into another machine
(say the laptop) through USB.  Not as fast as IDE, but they are cheap, 20 to
40 bucks, depending on where you get them.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:24 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


Jon,

But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a time.
Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a
different PC so I can copy back?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Feb 18 15:49:29 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:49:29 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <003201c515ee$6528a750$123a11d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <002501c51603$b946b920$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

1) Get a USB or firewire disk container for the hard disk.
2) Connect to your computer via usb or firewire
3) Use Ghost or similar to write an exact image out to the external drive.
4) Remove the internal drive
5) Install the one in the external box.
6) Reboot.  It should come right up and play.
7) if necessary extend the partition to add the remainder of the disk.

I did it in exactly this manner for my hard disk, except that I was going
from a 60g 4.2 k rpm to a 60g 7200 rpm so I didn't do the extension thing.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:17 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.

 

1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.

 

2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.

 

3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?

 

So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!

 

Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Fri Feb 18 16:01:19 2005
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:01:19 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE6432FF@snowmass.quiznos.net>

With the laptop IDE drive 'case' are you required to use a laptop HD or can you plug in a standard one?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:48 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


You can get Laptop IDE drive 'cases' which will plug into another machine
(say the laptop) through USB.  Not as fast as IDE, but they are cheap, 20 to
40 bucks, depending on where you get them.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:24 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


Jon,

But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a time.
Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a
different PC so I can copy back?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Feb 18 16:30:57 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:30:57 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE6432FF@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <002601c51609$8457a3e0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

The laptop IDEs have a different connector (smaller), thus only a laptop IDE
drive will plug into that case, not to mention they are extremely tiny, just
big enough for the small laptop drive.  A larger (desktop) drive will not
physically fit, nor will it fit electrically.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mackin,
Christopher
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:01 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


With the laptop IDE drive 'case' are you required to use a laptop HD or can
you plug in a standard one?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:48 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


You can get Laptop IDE drive 'cases' which will plug into another machine
(say the laptop) through USB.  Not as fast as IDE, but they are cheap, 20 to
40 bucks, depending on where you get them.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:24 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


Jon,

But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a time.
Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a
different PC so I can copy back?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Feb 18 17:12:43 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:12:43 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <21403527.1108766081615.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <004101c5160f$5a561a80$123a11d8@danwaters>

OK!  I found a VIDEO review of how to use a laptop drive enclosure.  It's
about 5 minutes, and is at:

http://www.3dgameman.com/vr/vantec/nexstar/video_review_03.html

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:31 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

The laptop IDEs have a different connector (smaller), thus only a laptop IDE
drive will plug into that case, not to mention they are extremely tiny, just
big enough for the small laptop drive.  A larger (desktop) drive will not
physically fit, nor will it fit electrically.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mackin,
Christopher
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:01 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


With the laptop IDE drive 'case' are you required to use a laptop HD or can
you plug in a standard one?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:48 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


You can get Laptop IDE drive 'cases' which will plug into another machine
(say the laptop) through USB.  Not as fast as IDE, but they are cheap, 20 to
40 bucks, depending on where you get them.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:24 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


Jon,

But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a time.
Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a
different PC so I can copy back?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Feb 18 18:43:59 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:43:59 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <25394358.1108761412731.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
Message-ID: <004f01c5161c$1a2cdbd0$123a11d8@danwaters>

It turns out that you can get Ghost 9 for about $30.  Found it for $50 on
Nextag.com, and there is currently a $20 rebate.  You need to be a previous
owner of any Norton, Symantec product (or several others), so I'll send them
my Norton Utilities for Windows 95 (copyright 1997) Emergency Disk as proof
of ownership!  

Hey! - It's their rules!

THANKS for everyone's help with this.  I'll end up with a 20G external HD
that I hadn't planned on having, and saving at least 2 days of reloading!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Fri Feb 18 21:06:25 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:06:25 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <004001c51600$3ac9c540$123a11d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDAEKKCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

Depends on the laptop... the Dell Latitude I have at work has a removeable
cd-drive, and you can put hard drive in there, but I wouldn't have thought
it was possible on most of them.

Sorry, didn't notice the word laptop in your original post... too busy
getting ready to go to the pub. Must pay attention in future :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 21:24
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


Jon,

But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a time.
Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a
different PC so I can copy back?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Fri Feb 18 21:07:45 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:07:45 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <004f01c5161c$1a2cdbd0$123a11d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDEEKKCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

I went better, and found a copy on Ebay for $10, which was even nicer,
especially at UK exchange rates :)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 19 February 2005 00:44
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


It turns out that you can get Ghost 9 for about $30.  Found it for $50 on
Nextag.com, and there is currently a $20 rebate.  You need to be a previous
owner of any Norton, Symantec product (or several others), so I'll send them
my Norton Utilities for Windows 95 (copyright 1997) Emergency Disk as proof
of ownership!

Hey! - It's their rules!

THANKS for everyone's help with this.  I'll end up with a 20G external HD
that I hadn't planned on having, and saving at least 2 days of reloading!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From dbatech at wolfwares.com  Fri Feb 18 21:32:37 2005
From: dbatech at wolfwares.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:32:37 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <004101c5160f$5a561a80$123a11d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <HCEKKCDKADBCBMOJIMDHOEOPEPAA.dbatech@wolfwares.com>

Yep, and note, there are two USB connectors.  One's a 'pass through'.  The
USB powers the drive.  Laptop drives are different from normal IDE drives,
because there is no seperate power supply.

You can find these things at almost any computer shop.  Years ago, we wanted
such a device, and even went as far as contacting an engineering firm to
build us one.  They quoted a few grand to build one.  About 2 years later, I
was walking through Frys, and there were stacks of these things, exactly
what I was looking for before, but they were dirt cheap! (Like $35).  Picked
one up for the company, and got paid back through petty cash.  I've only
used it through USB, not USB 2.0.  It's still pretty quick, and acts just
like a hard drive would. (You can format it in Disk Management and
everything).

Hope this helps.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:13 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


OK!  I found a VIDEO review of how to use a laptop drive enclosure.  It's
about 5 minutes, and is at:

http://www.3dgameman.com/vr/vantec/nexstar/video_review_03.html

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:31 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

The laptop IDEs have a different connector (smaller), thus only a laptop IDE
drive will plug into that case, not to mention they are extremely tiny, just
big enough for the small laptop drive.  A larger (desktop) drive will not
physically fit, nor will it fit electrically.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mackin,
Christopher
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:01 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


With the laptop IDE drive 'case' are you required to use a laptop HD or can
you plug in a standard one?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:48 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


You can get Laptop IDE drive 'cases' which will plug into another machine
(say the laptop) through USB.  Not as fast as IDE, but they are cheap, 20 to
40 bucks, depending on where you get them.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:24 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


Jon,

But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a time.
Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a
different PC so I can copy back?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install the 60gb drive
as the secondary master and copy exactly the contents of your 20gb drive to
the new 60gb drive.

Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and use disk
manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN SCANDISK AND DEFRAG
AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that enough. If you have a problem with it,
you still have your original 20gb as a backup.

Simple as a really simple thing! :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive


I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 60G HD.  Based
on past experience I'd like to avoid spending the next 2-3 days doing it.



1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.  Can this
be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) to another PC or to disk?  If
this practical?  I have an older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which
might be useful.



2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
others?) which supposedly can help.



3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?



So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of health care you
might take a shot at this question!



Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Feb 19 05:42:02 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:42:02 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDEEKKCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c51678$07c191a0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I've got Ghost as supplied with SystemWorks 2002. Anyone know if v9 is
significantly better for XP as I'm thinking I may start using it for the
first time?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 19 February 2005 03:08
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
> 
> 
> I went better, and found a copy on Ebay for $10, which was 
> even nicer, especially at UK exchange rates :)
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: 19 February 2005 00:44
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
> 
> 
> It turns out that you can get Ghost 9 for about $30.  Found 
> it for $50 on Nextag.com, and there is currently a $20 
> rebate.  You need to be a previous owner of any Norton, 
> Symantec product (or several others), so I'll send them my 
> Norton Utilities for Windows 95 (copyright 1997) Emergency 
> Disk as proof of ownership!
> 
> Hey! - It's their rules!
> 
> THANKS for everyone's help with this.  I'll end up with a 20G 
> external HD that I hadn't planned on having, and saving at 
> least 2 days of reloading!
> 
> Dan Waters
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
> 
> Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install 
> the 60gb drive as the secondary master and copy exactly the 
> contents of your 20gb drive to the new 60gb drive.
> 
> Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and 
> use disk manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN 
> SCANDISK AND DEFRAG AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that 
> enough. If you have a problem with it, you still have your 
> original 20gb as a backup.
> 
> Simple as a really simple thing! :-)
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
> 
> 
> I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 
> 60G HD.  Based on past experience I'd like to avoid spending 
> the next 2-3 days doing it.
> 
> 
> 
> 1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer 
> Wizard.  Can this be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) 
> to another PC or to disk?  If this practical?  I have an 
> older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which might be useful.
> 
> 
> 
> 2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
> others?) which supposedly can help.
> 
> 
> 
> 3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?
> 
> 
> 
> So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of 
> health care you might take a shot at this question!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dan Waters
> 
> ProMation Systems
> 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Feb 19 08:46:06 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:46:06 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <6751214.1108813420934.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <000601c51691$be9e94e0$123a11d8@danwaters>

Andy,

Norton says that if you purchase v9, then v2003 is included.  If your copy
has that, then you've probably got all bases covered.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 5:42 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

I've got Ghost as supplied with SystemWorks 2002. Anyone know if v9 is
significantly better for XP as I'm thinking I may start using it for the
first time?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 19 February 2005 03:08
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
> 
> 
> I went better, and found a copy on Ebay for $10, which was 
> even nicer, especially at UK exchange rates :)
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: 19 February 2005 00:44
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
> 
> 
> It turns out that you can get Ghost 9 for about $30.  Found 
> it for $50 on Nextag.com, and there is currently a $20 
> rebate.  You need to be a previous owner of any Norton, 
> Symantec product (or several others), so I'll send them my 
> Norton Utilities for Windows 95 (copyright 1997) Emergency 
> Disk as proof of ownership!
> 
> Hey! - It's their rules!
> 
> THANKS for everyone's help with this.  I'll end up with a 20G 
> external HD that I hadn't planned on having, and saving at 
> least 2 days of reloading!
> 
> Dan Waters
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:11 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
> 
> Yep, get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost, install it. Install 
> the 60gb drive as the secondary master and copy exactly the 
> contents of your 20gb drive to the new 60gb drive.
> 
> Take the 20gb out, put the 60gb in as the primary master and 
> use disk manager to extend the partitions. MAKE SURE YOU RUN 
> SCANDISK AND DEFRAG AFTERWARDS. I can't reiterate that 
> enough. If you have a problem with it, you still have your 
> original 20gb as a backup.
> 
> Simple as a really simple thing! :-)
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: 18 February 2005 19:17
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
> 
> 
> I am going to replace the 20G HD on my laptop with a faster 
> 60G HD.  Based on past experience I'd like to avoid spending 
> the next 2-3 days doing it.
> 
> 
> 
> 1) XP Pro has a utility called Files and Settings Transfer 
> Wizard.  Can this be used to copy the entire HD as is (~15 G) 
> to another PC or to disk?  If this practical?  I have an 
> older PC 233 Mhz, 384 M memory, 40 G HD which might be useful.
> 
> 
> 
> 2) There are program like Laplink PC sync or PC upgrade Commander (or
> others?) which supposedly can help.
> 
> 
> 
> 3) I've heard of 'ghosting' my HD.  Is this a feasible mechanism?
> 
> 
> 
> So - if you're tired of reading about the poor state of 
> health care you might take a shot at this question!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dan Waters
> 
> ProMation Systems
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Feb 19 09:15:21 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 16:15:21 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
Message-ID: <s217662c.065@cactus.dk>

Hi Christopher and John

Electrical they are nearly identical. 

At most hardware shops you can get a simple adapter for a few $/?/? which converts the 2?" connector to that of a 3?" ATA drive and a power cord.
Then you can mount the drive in a standard desktop machine and ghost again and again until you go crazy.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 18-02-2005 23:30:57 >>>
The laptop IDEs have a different connector (smaller), thus only a laptop IDE
drive will plug into that case, not to mention they are extremely tiny, just
big enough for the small laptop drive.  A larger (desktop) drive will not
physically fit, nor will it fit electrically.




From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sat Feb 19 09:20:02 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:20:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <004001c51600$3ac9c540$123a11d8@danwaters>
References: <25394358.1108761412731.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
	<004001c51600$3ac9c540$123a11d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92050219072060028f0e@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:24:28 -0600, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> Jon,
> 
> But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a time.
> Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a
> different PC so I can copy back?

If your laptop is networked, I'm pretty sure that Ghost can image the
small drive to a network and then restore the image to the larger hd
from the network.

I know Drive Image can, or at least could that last time I used it
several years ago. So I can't see why Ghost wouldn't be able to do
that.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From john at winhaven.net  Sat Feb 19 11:00:44 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:00:44 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c92050219072060028f0e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAAcl7rnOrw/ESDEohQiSjvTgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

I bought System Works Premier 2005 a couple months ago - it includes Ghost
9. (BTW Symantec recently bought PowerQuest)
Also Partition Magic is now a Norton product but is not included in System
Works.

-One Button Checkup is improved and no longer causes lockups (Whew-who! Who
would've thought it would in the first place?!)

-System Doctor (I don't use this resource hog)

-Speed Disk seems the same.

-Unerase Wizard seems the same.

-Disk Doctor presents messages on start-up that most people would get a bit
nervous over. Such as "Disk 1 doesn't contain a valid bootable partition..."
and gives the option to fix it. I believe this is the age old conflict
between Partition Magic and Disk Doctor which you would have thought
Symantec would correct since they own both now. Also if you choose
automatically fix disk errors it tells you it can't do it until you reboot
and then that takes quite a while to do during boot up (I think it might use
XP's built in disk utilities anyway. Problem is that is does this regardless
if there are any errors to fix or not. If you don't check the automatically
fix it runs fine. If you have errors you then have to redo it and tell it to
fix on reboot. Logic is not included in this sequence. It should scan first
and if and only if it finds errors - inform you that it can't fix without
rebooting and ask if you wan to schedule the fix for the next reboot.

-System Information seems the same.

-Wipe Info seems the same.

-Norton Registry Editor is gone. I used to use it because it had a find and
replace function and a nice bookmark function.

-Password Manager (which now a separate product but integrates into
SystemWorks once installed-I got it free with my order) is a waste of time.
It works great at first but now it rarely does the fill-in for me and has
all my passwords encrypted so I can even manually type them it fails to do
it for me. Probably the result of some conflict with AV or some other
security product but my Google toolbar fill-in feature works all the time so
I don't think this is an acceptable excuse.

-Norton Ghost (I forget now-who did they buy this from yet?) 9 can now read
Drive Image images. It seems that it is fast becoming Symantec's personal
backup product too. I wonder how this will stand given they just bought
Veritas. A tech at one of my subs recently mentioned that Ghost 9 doesn't
create bootable CDs. I haven't verified that but that may be a limitation.
(I believe in the past that you had to run Ghost from a floppy disk and it
loaded drivers that let you access a CD drive.) Ghost 9 includes Ghost 2003
on the CD for Windows 9x, Me, NT, Linux and DOS. It can't read Drive Image
images.

-Norton Cleanup basically replaces Clean Sweep (which they inherited when
they bought Quarterdeck) and Norton Web Cleanup includes tools to remove
cookies urls, cached files, temporary files and MRUs. You can figure it can
easily to not erase certain items. It no longer includes tools to cleanup
duplicates files, dlls, screensavers, fonts, and other assorted
collectables.

-Norton Go Back (which they bought from Roxio) version 4 which look much
improved but I haven't installed yet because I didn't have room for its
stash area. (I recently added another hard drive so I will be able to
finally). I never much to complain about in the past version so unless they
"broke it" it should be fine.

-Norton Anti-virus 2005 which is a very good product that I don't have
installed right now due to testing CA's EZ anti-virus.

It includes a few Extras Features. Generally these are items that they
recently purchased, are thinking about purchasing or haven't figured out how
to incorporate into their UI. 2005 includes: System Optimizer _ basically a
"Windows Tweak" type of program; Process Viewer; Performance Test;
Connection Keep Alive; Check Diagnostics (from Smith Micro) for hardware
testing. (Most larger PC manufacturers have a derivation of this included
either on their system utilities CD or as a download anyway.)

Norton Utilities seems to have been forgotten in Symantec's acquisition
frenzy. Vcom's System Utilities work much better as a replacement. However
the other components in System Works are all fine products with a few quirks
here and there. I do think they should include Partition Magic in the suite.

John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:20 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:24:28 -0600, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com>
wrote:
> Jon,
> 
> But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a
time.
> Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a 
> different PC so I can copy back?

If your laptop is networked, I'm pretty sure that Ghost can image the small
drive to a network and then restore the image to the larger hd from the
network.

I know Drive Image can, or at least could that last time I used it several
years ago. So I can't see why Ghost wouldn't be able to do that.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From john at winhaven.net  Sat Feb 19 12:22:55 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:22:55 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Norton Ghost 9/Systemworks 2005 (was: Replace Hard
	Drive)
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAAcl7rnOrw/ESDEohQiSjvTgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7UKAAAAQAAAA3xTx/y6J/Emn1ly5qR3iXgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Oops, I should've re-subjected this message. 

John B. 


I bought System Works Premier 2005 a couple months ago - it includes Ghost
9. (BTW Symantec recently bought PowerQuest) Also Partition Magic is now a
Norton product but is not included in System Works.

-One Button Checkup is improved and no longer causes lockups (Whew-who! Who
would've thought it would in the first place?!)

-System Doctor (I don't use this resource hog)

-Speed Disk seems the same.

-Unerase Wizard seems the same.

-Disk Doctor presents messages on start-up that most people would get a bit
nervous over. Such as "Disk 1 doesn't contain a valid bootable partition..."
and gives the option to fix it. I believe this is the age old conflict
between Partition Magic and Disk Doctor which you would have thought
Symantec would correct since they own both now. Also if you choose
automatically fix disk errors it tells you it can't do it until you reboot
and then that takes quite a while to do during boot up (I think it might use
XP's built in disk utilities anyway. Problem is that is does this regardless
if there are any errors to fix or not. If you don't check the automatically
fix it runs fine. If you have errors you then have to redo it and tell it to
fix on reboot. Logic is not included in this sequence. It should scan first
and if and only if it finds errors - inform you that it can't fix without
rebooting and ask if you wan to schedule the fix for the next reboot.

-System Information seems the same.

-Wipe Info seems the same.

-Norton Registry Editor is gone. I used to use it because it had a find and
replace function and a nice bookmark function.

-Password Manager (which now a separate product but integrates into
SystemWorks once installed-I got it free with my order) is a waste of time.
It works great at first but now it rarely does the fill-in for me and has
all my passwords encrypted so I can even manually type them it fails to do
it for me. Probably the result of some conflict with AV or some other
security product but my Google toolbar fill-in feature works all the time so
I don't think this is an acceptable excuse.

-Norton Ghost (I forget now-who did they buy this from yet?) 9 can now read
Drive Image images. It seems that it is fast becoming Symantec's personal
backup product too. I wonder how this will stand given they just bought
Veritas. A tech at one of my subs recently mentioned that Ghost 9 doesn't
create bootable CDs. I haven't verified that but that may be a limitation.
(I believe in the past that you had to run Ghost from a floppy disk and it
loaded drivers that let you access a CD drive.) Ghost 9 includes Ghost 2003
on the CD for Windows 9x, Me, NT, Linux and DOS. It can't read Drive Image
images.

-Norton Cleanup basically replaces Clean Sweep (which they inherited when
they bought Quarterdeck) and Norton Web Cleanup includes tools to remove
cookies urls, cached files, temporary files and MRUs. You can figure it can
easily to not erase certain items. It no longer includes tools to cleanup
duplicates files, dlls, screensavers, fonts, and other assorted
collectables.

-Norton Go Back (which they bought from Roxio) version 4 which look much
improved but I haven't installed yet because I didn't have room for its
stash area. (I recently added another hard drive so I will be able to
finally). I never much to complain about in the past version so unless they
"broke it" it should be fine.

-Norton Anti-virus 2005 which is a very good product that I don't have
installed right now due to testing CA's EZ anti-virus.

It includes a few Extras Features. Generally these are items that they
recently purchased, are thinking about purchasing or haven't figured out how
to incorporate into their UI. 2005 includes: System Optimizer _ basically a
"Windows Tweak" type of program; Process Viewer; Performance Test;
Connection Keep Alive; Check Diagnostics (from Smith Micro) for hardware
testing. (Most larger PC manufacturers have a derivation of this included
either on their system utilities CD or as a download anyway.)

Norton Utilities seems to have been forgotten in Symantec's acquisition
frenzy. Vcom's System Utilities work much better as a replacement. However
the other components in System Works are all fine products with a few quirks
here and there. I do think they should include Partition Magic in the suite.

John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:20 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Replace Hard Drive

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:24:28 -0600, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com>
wrote:
> Jon,
> 
> But, this is a laptop.  I'm pretty sure I can only install one HD at a
time.
> Can Norton Ghost copy to discs?  (maybe about 20 CDrs).  Or copy to a 
> different PC so I can copy back?

If your laptop is networked, I'm pretty sure that Ghost can image the small
drive to a network and then restore the image to the larger hd from the
network.

I know Drive Image can, or at least could that last time I used it several
years ago. So I can't see why Ghost wouldn't be able to do that.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Feb 21 06:24:33 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:24:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free Excel Library for .Net
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D0185E67F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

I ran across this web site that has a free .Net library for Excel and
thought it might be useful...

http://www.carlosag.net/Tools/ExcelXmlWriter/Default.aspx


From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Mon Feb 21 09:08:35 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:08:35 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Explorer oddness
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2446@ALCUXB>

Hi gang
 
Got something a little strange here. My pc has stopped reading cd's. I can
put a music cd in the drive, and it'll play, and I'll be able to browse it
and rip it (for my own personal use), but I can't read data cd's. The weird
thing is that I can still read data DVD's in it, and burn data cd's,
although the verification bit won't work. They work fine in other pc's so
I've never really had a huge problem with it.
 
I'm only really bothered now because I had to find some old data that was
archived on 100mb zip disks, and I thought I'd take the opportunity to put
them all on the NAS so they're easier to access... I put a zip disk in to
get a specific file not 10 minutes ago and it was fine. Now I can't browse
it... I'd go and check on another pc, but we don't have any other zip drives
in the building any more. Well, not working ones at any rate, which was the
other motive for my archiving.
 
The pc is fairly clean - I've run spybot and microsoft anti spyware every
night, and I've just run a virus scan, I'm clean... hijackthis doesn't show
anything either... Has anyone got any ideas?
 
TIA
 
 
Jon


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Feb 21 09:37:28 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:37:28 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
Message-ID: <010301c5182b$406023f0$6901a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

I use the 'Send To' and 'WinZip and Email'  options in the context menu that pops up when you right click a file.  Use it a LOT.

A few days ago it stopped working.  I don't know where the file goes but it doesn't appear in an email like it used to.

About the same time I installed something call winRAR and thinking that it might have hosed this feature I uninstalled it but it made no difference.

Anybody have any speculation as to why it may have stopped?

(I'll bet a dollar there's a registry key involved.)

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Mon Feb 21 09:41:47 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:41:47 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2449@ALCUXB>

Yeah, WinRAR is like Winzip, but with bells on. I prefer Winzip though... I
think if you go to options in winzip it should have a thing to reassociate
the file types to winzip rather than winrar. It's like all these different
media players trying to take control of every media file type you have...
bloody annoying.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: 21 February 2005 15:37
To: dba-tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working


Dear List:

I use the 'Send To' and 'WinZip and Email'  options in the context menu that
pops up when you right click a file.  Use it a LOT.

A few days ago it stopped working.  I don't know where the file goes but it
doesn't appear in an email like it used to.

About the same time I installed something call winRAR and thinking that it
might have hosed this feature I uninstalled it but it made no difference.

Anybody have any speculation as to why it may have stopped?

(I'll bet a dollar there's a registry key involved.)

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Feb 21 08:45:19 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:45:19 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
Message-ID: <20050221154516.6971E2BFA1D@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Rocky
Have you tried reinstalling Winzip having uninstalled winRar. I'd bet winRar
has messed you up, and reinstalling Winzip may well set you right.
--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
To: dba-tech <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
Date: 21/02/05 15:37

>
> Dear List:
>
> I use the 'Send To' and 'WinZip and Email'  options in the context menu
that pops up when you right click a file.  Use it a LOT.
>
> A few days ago it stopped working.  I don't know where the file goes but
it doesn't appear in an email like it used to.
>
> About the same time I installed something call winRAR and thinking that it
might have hosed this feature I uninstalled it but it made no difference.
>
> Anybody have any speculation as to why it may have stopped?
>
> (I'll bet a dollar there's a registry key involved.)
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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>
>
>
>
>

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Feb 21 11:37:37 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:37:37 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
References: <20050221154516.6971E2BFA1D@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <018001c5183c$0924fad0$6901a8c0@HAL9002>

I'll give it a go and let you know.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working


> Hi Rocky
> Have you tried reinstalling Winzip having uninstalled winRar. I'd bet 
> winRar
> has messed you up, and reinstalling Winzip may well set you right.
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> To: dba-tech <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
> Date: 21/02/05 15:37
>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I use the 'Send To' and 'WinZip and Email'  options in the context menu
> that pops up when you right click a file.  Use it a LOT.
>>
>> A few days ago it stopped working.  I don't know where the file goes but
> it doesn't appear in an email like it used to.
>>
>> About the same time I installed something call winRAR and thinking that 
>> it
> might have hosed this feature I uninstalled it but it made no difference.
>>
>> Anybody have any speculation as to why it may have stopped?
>>
>> (I'll bet a dollar there's a registry key involved.)
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Feb 21 12:14:21 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:14:21 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Explorer oddness
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2446@ALCUXB>
References: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2446@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <aea6c495050221101447dcf944@mail.gmail.com>

It can't read CD's or Zip disks and that happened at a similar time?
Did you reboot? The drives both show in Explorer but just can't read
those formats. Sounds like a driver issue. You might try disconnecting
the cables, rebooting and then reconnecting them and rebooting again,
so Windows reloades the drivers. You might have to go into the BIOS
setup to re-enable them too after reconnecting them. I'd try the plain
old reboot with them still connected first though.

Zip disks used to be plagued with something called the CLICK OF DEATH problem. 

http://members.aol.com/zipcod1/Zip.html
http://kb.indiana.edu/data/ahhd.html?cust=544643.09932.30
http://www.arcwebserv.com/jumpsite/clickofdeath.html
http://grc.com/tip/codfaq8.htm

Steve Gibson has a utility to check the disk and the drive; see

http://www.grc.com/tip/clickdeath.htm




On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:08:35 -0000, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi gang
> 
> Got something a little strange here. My pc has stopped reading cd's. I can
> put a music cd in the drive, and it'll play, and I'll be able to browse it
> and rip it (for my own personal use), but I can't read data cd's. The weird
> thing is that I can still read data DVD's in it, and burn data cd's,
> although the verification bit won't work. They work fine in other pc's so
> I've never really had a huge problem with it.
> 
> I'm only really bothered now because I had to find some old data that was
> archived on 100mb zip disks, and I thought I'd take the opportunity to put
> them all on the NAS so they're easier to access... I put a zip disk in to
> get a specific file not 10 minutes ago and it was fine. Now I can't browse
> it... I'd go and check on another pc, but we don't have any other zip drives
> in the building any more. Well, not working ones at any rate, which was the
> other motive for my archiving.
> 
> The pc is fairly clean - I've run spybot and microsoft anti spyware every
> night, and I've just run a virus scan, I'm clean... hijackthis doesn't show
> anything either... Has anyone got any ideas?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jon
> 
> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally
> privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject
> to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk
> ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited.
> Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ.
> Registered in England and Wales No 4057291
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-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Feb 21 12:47:03 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:47:03 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
References: <20050221154516.6971E2BFA1D@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
	<018001c5183c$0924fad0$6901a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <01dd01c51845$bc0ce960$6901a8c0@HAL9002>

Rats.  Didn't work.

Rocky

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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working


> I'll give it a go and let you know.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 6:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
>
>
>> Hi Rocky
>> Have you tried reinstalling Winzip having uninstalled winRar. I'd bet 
>> winRar
>> has messed you up, and reinstalling Winzip may well set you right.
>> --
>> Andy Lacey
>> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> --------- Original Message --------
>> From: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> To: dba-tech <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
>> Date: 21/02/05 15:37
>>
>>>
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> I use the 'Send To' and 'WinZip and Email'  options in the context menu
>> that pops up when you right click a file.  Use it a LOT.
>>>
>>> A few days ago it stopped working.  I don't know where the file goes but
>> it doesn't appear in an email like it used to.
>>>
>>> About the same time I installed something call winRAR and thinking that 
>>> it
>> might have hosed this feature I uninstalled it but it made no difference.
>>>
>>> Anybody have any speculation as to why it may have stopped?
>>>
>>> (I'll bet a dollar there's a registry key involved.)
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin
>>> Beach Access Software
>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>> 858-259-4334
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Feb 21 13:05:26 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:05:26 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working
In-Reply-To: <010301c5182b$406023f0$6901a8c0@HAL9002>
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Rocky,
Does Send to WinZip and Email still appear on the shortcut menu?

If so go into WinZip | Options | Configuration
System Tab:
Ensure Associate WinZip with Archives is checked
Explorer Enhancements Tab:
-Top 3 checkboxes (Under title "General") should be checked. If they are
checked, then:
uncheck them-click-OK
open the same dialog again-recheck them and click OK.
(It really does work that quickly on my machine.)

HTH
John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:37 AM
To: dba-tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send To Stopped Working

Dear List:

I use the 'Send To' and 'WinZip and Email'  options in the context menu that
pops up when you right click a file.  Use it a LOT.

A few days ago it stopped working.  I don't know where the file goes but it
doesn't appear in an email like it used to.

About the same time I installed something call winRAR and thinking that it
might have hosed this feature I uninstalled it but it made no difference.

Anybody have any speculation as to why it may have stopped?

(I'll bet a dollar there's a registry key involved.)

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Feb 21 18:42:38 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:42:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
Message-ID: <002e01c51877$6c021da0$6c01a8c0@ColbyM6805>

I found c++ code for opening a pdf file and extracting the texst inside of
it.  This is the only actual source code I've found for doing this.  I am
not a c++ kinda guy and am wondering if anyone here can convert the code to
VB.net for me.  It isn't too long (a few pages of code).  If anyone thinks
they can do this let me know.  No money available, just a challenge.

//This file contains extremely crude C source code to extract plain text
//from a PDF file. It is only intended to show some of the basics involved
//in the process and by no means good enough for commercial use.
//But it can be easily modified to suit your purpose. Code is by no means
//warranted to be bug free or suitable for any purpose.
//
//Adobe has a web site that converts PDF files to text for free,
//so why would you need something like this? Several reasons:
//
//1) This code is entirely free including for commericcial use. It only
//   requires ZLIB (from www.zlib.org) which is entirely free as well.
//
//2) This code tries to put tabs into appropriate places in the text,
//   which means that if your PDF file contains mostly one large table,
//   you can easily take the output of this program and directly read it
//   into Excel! Otherwise if you select and copy the text and paste it into
//   Excel there is no way to extract the various columns again.
//
//This code assumes that the PDF file has text objects compressed
//using FlateDecode (which seems to be standard).
//
//This code is free. Use it for any purpose.
//The author assumes no liability whatsoever for the use of this code.
//Use it at your own risk!


//PDF file strings (based on PDFReference15_v5.pdf from www.adobve.com:
//
//BT = Beginning of a text object, ET = end of a text object
//5 Ts = superscript
//-5 Ts = subscript
//Td move to start next line

//No precompiled headers, but uncomment if need be:
#include "stdafx.h"

#include <stdio.h>
#include <windows.h>

//YOur project must also include zdll.lib (ZLIB) as a dependency.
//ZLIB can be freely downloaded from the internet, www.zlib.org
//Use 4 byte struct alignment in your project!

#include "zlib.h"

//Find a string in a buffer:
size_t FindStringInBuffer (char* buffer, char* search, size_t buffersize)
{
	char* buffer0 = buffer;

	size_t len = strlen(search);
	bool fnd = false;
	while (!fnd)
	{
		fnd = true;
		for (size_t i=0; i<len; i++)
		{
			if (buffer[i]!=search[i])
			{
				fnd = false;
				break;
			}
		}
		if (fnd) return buffer - buffer0;
		buffer = buffer + 1;
		if (buffer - buffer0 + len >= buffersize) return -1;
	}
	return -1;
}

//Keep this many previous recent characters for back reference:
#define oldchar 15

//Convert a recent set of characters into a number if there is one.
//Otherwise return -1:
float ExtractNumber(const char* search, int lastcharoffset)
{
	int i = lastcharoffset;
	while (i>0 && search[i]==' ') i--;
	while (i>0 && (isdigit(search[i]) || search[i]=='.')) i--;
	float flt=-1.0;
	char buffer[oldchar+5]; ZeroMemory(buffer,sizeof(buffer));
	strncpy(buffer, search+i+1, lastcharoffset-i);
	if (buffer[0] && sscanf(buffer, "%f", &flt))
	{
		return flt;
	}
	return -1.0;
}

//Check if a certain 2 character token just came along (e.g. BT):
bool seen2(const char* search, char* recent)
{
if (    recent[oldchar-3]==search[0] 
     && recent[oldchar-2]==search[1] 
	 && (recent[oldchar-1]==' ' || recent[oldchar-1]==0x0d ||
recent[oldchar-1]==0x0a) 
	 && (recent[oldchar-4]==' ' || recent[oldchar-4]==0x0d ||
recent[oldchar-4]==0x0a)
	 )
	{
		return true;
	}
	return false;
}

//This method processes an uncompressed Adobe (text) object and extracts
text.
void ProcessOutput(FILE* file, char* output, size_t len)
{
	//Are we currently inside a text object?
	bool intextobject = false;

	//Is the next character literal (e.g. \\ to get a \ character or \(
to get ( ):
	bool nextliteral = false;
	
	//() Bracket nesting level. Text appears inside ()
	int rbdepth = 0;

	//Keep previous chars to get extract numbers etc.:
	char oc[oldchar];
	int j=0;
	for (j=0; j<oldchar; j++) oc[j]=' ';

	for (size_t i=0; i<len; i++)
	{
		char c = output[i];
		if (intextobject)
		{
			if (rbdepth==0 && seen2("TD", oc))
			{
				//Positioning.
				//See if a new line has to start or just a
tab:
				float num = ExtractNumber(oc,oldchar-5);
				if (num>1.0)
				{
					fputc(0x0d, file);
					fputc(0x0a, file);
				}
				if (num<1.0)
				{
					fputc('\t', file);
				}
			}
			if (rbdepth==0 && seen2("ET", oc))
			{
				//End of a text object, also go to a new
line.
				intextobject = false;
				fputc(0x0d, file);
				fputc(0x0a, file);
			}
			else if (c=='(' && rbdepth==0 && !nextliteral) 
			{
				//Start outputting text!
				rbdepth=1;
				//See if a space or tab (>1000) is called
for by looking
				//at the number in front of (
				int num = ExtractNumber(oc,oldchar-1);
				if (num>0)
				{
					if (num>1000.0)
					{
						fputc('\t', file);
					}
					else if (num>100.0)
					{
						fputc(' ', file);
					}
				}
			}
			else if (c==')' && rbdepth==1 && !nextliteral) 
			{
				//Stop outputting text
				rbdepth=0;
			}
			else if (rbdepth==1) 
			{
				//Just a normal text character:
				if (c=='\\' && !nextliteral)
				{
					//Only print out next character no
matter what. Do not interpret.
					nextliteral = true;
				}
				else
				{
					nextliteral = false;
					if ( ((c>=' ') && (c<='~')) ||
((c>=128) && (c<255)) )
					{
						fputc(c, file);
					}
				}
			}
		}
		//Store the recent characters for when we have to go back
for a number:
		for (j=0; j<oldchar-1; j++) oc[j]=oc[j+1];
		oc[oldchar-1]=c;
		if (!intextobject)
		{
			if (seen2("BT", oc))
			{
				//Start of a text object:
				intextobject = true;
			}
		}
	}
}

//int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
int _tmain()
{
	//Discard existing output:
	FILE* fileo = fopen("c:\\pdf\\output2.txt", "w");
	if (fileo) fclose(fileo);
	fileo = fopen("c:\\pdf\\output2.txt", "a");

	//Open the PDF source file:
	FILE* filei = fopen("c:\\pdf\\somepdf.pdf", "rb");

	if (filei && fileo)
	{
		//Get the file length:
		int fseekres = fseek(filei,0, SEEK_END);   //fseek==0 if ok
		long filelen = ftell(filei);
		fseekres = fseek(filei,0, SEEK_SET);

		//Read ethe ntire file into memory (!):
		char* buffer = new char [filelen]; ZeroMemory(buffer,
filelen);
		size_t actualread = fread(buffer, filelen, 1 ,filei);
//must return 1

		bool morestreams = true;

		//Now search the buffer repeated for streams of data:
		while (morestreams)
		{
			//Search for stream, endstream. We ought to first
check the filter
			//of the object to make sure it if FlateDecode, but
skip that for now!
			size_t streamstart = FindStringInBuffer (buffer,
"stream", filelen);
			size_t streamend   = FindStringInBuffer (buffer,
"endstream", filelen);
			if (streamstart>0 && streamend>streamstart)
			{
				//Skip to beginning and end of the data
stream:
				streamstart += 6;

				if (buffer[streamstart]==0x0d &&
buffer[streamstart+1]==0x0a) streamstart+=2;
				else if (buffer[streamstart]==0x0a)
streamstart++;

				if (buffer[streamend-2]==0x0d &&
buffer[streamend-1]==0x0a) streamend-=2;
				else if (buffer[streamend-1]==0x0a)
streamend--;

				//Assume output will fit into 10 times input
buffer:
				size_t outsize = (streamend -
streamstart)*10;
				char* output = new char [outsize];
ZeroMemory(output, outsize);

				//Now use zlib to inflate:
				z_stream zstrm; ZeroMemory(&zstrm,
sizeof(zstrm));

				zstrm.avail_in = streamend - streamstart +
1;
				zstrm.avail_out = outsize;
				zstrm.next_in = (Bytef*)(buffer +
streamstart);
				zstrm.next_out = (Bytef*)output;

				int rsti = inflateInit(&zstrm);
				if (rsti == Z_OK)
				{
					int rst2 = inflate (&zstrm,
Z_FINISH);
					if (rst2 >= 0)
					{
						//Ok, got something, extract
the text:
						size_t totout =
zstrm.total_out;
						ProcessOutput(fileo, output,
totout);
					}
				}
				delete[] output; output=0;
				buffer+= streamend + 7;
				filelen = filelen - (streamend+7);
			}
			else
			{
				morestreams = false;
			}
		}
		fclose(filei);
	}
	if (fileo) fclose(fileo);
	return 0;
}


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www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Feb 21 20:21:34 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:21:34 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS anti-spyware
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAA2QnR5VSGvUWNxsow0XcC/AEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

It just gets better and better.
 
I just downloaded the latest iteration of MS anti-spyware and ran a scan to
see if its any better. (So far its lived up to about 1/10 of the media
hype.)
 
Oh my gosh! It found a browser highjack attempt (How exasperating! I have
Pest Patrol running 24/7 in order to keep those buggers out!)
 
Oops, never mind, it was just me --- deciding that my homepage shouldn't be
MSN.com (or whatever irritating homepage IE ships with). (I had changed it
to my own website's homepage.)
 
System scan:
1 item found
1 item ignored
 


From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Feb 22 02:35:52 2005
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:35:52 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
References: <002e01c51877$6c021da0$6c01a8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001601c518b9$8f5e8580$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>

John,

This your sample C++ code is OK - i.e. it compiles and works. Tested. (BTW,
it needs zlib include files and binaries - www.zlib.org)
As for VB.NET conversion maybe better/easier try to use zlib .NET wrapper
http://zlibnetwrapper.sourceforge.net/
Then just use numerous C#->VB.NET convertors to convert this wrapper sample
C# code?
If this sample code will not fit your task then C++ code you posted here
could be adapted to this .NET wrapper.

I did download it and tried to rebuild .NET wrapper solution.
Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE. Even when I just open its
solution and try to close - it HANGS VS.NET 2003 IDE.
Something wrong with my installation? I doubt it. Could you please try to
download and rebuild this solution?


Shamil
--
Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "Tech -
Database Advisors Inc." <Dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:42 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion


> I found c++ code for opening a pdf file and extracting the texst inside of
> it.  This is the only actual source code I've found for doing this.  I am
> not a c++ kinda guy and am wondering if anyone here can convert the code
to
> VB.net for me.  It isn't too long (a few pages of code).  If anyone thinks
> they can do this let me know.  No money available, just a challenge.
>

<<< skipped >>>



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Feb 22 03:08:00 2005
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
References: <002e01c51877$6c021da0$6c01a8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<001601c518b9$8f5e8580$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <000701c518be$02fb6590$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>

> Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE.
It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was hanging
VS.NET 2003.
It works OK now after I removed this add-in...

So, I think this wrapper is useful...

Shamil
--
Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion


> John,
>
> This your sample C++ code is OK - i.e. it compiles and works. Tested.
(BTW,
> it needs zlib include files and binaries - www.zlib.org)
> As for VB.NET conversion maybe better/easier try to use zlib .NET wrapper
> http://zlibnetwrapper.sourceforge.net/
> Then just use numerous C#->VB.NET convertors to convert this wrapper
sample
> C# code?
> If this sample code will not fit your task then C++ code you posted here
> could be adapted to this .NET wrapper.
>
> I did download it and tried to rebuild .NET wrapper solution.
> Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE. Even when I just open its
> solution and try to close - it HANGS VS.NET 2003 IDE.
> Something wrong with my installation? I doubt it. Could you please try to
> download and rebuild this solution?
>
>
> Shamil
> --
> Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>;
"Tech -
> Database Advisors Inc." <Dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:42 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
>
>
> > I found c++ code for opening a pdf file and extracting the texst inside
of
> > it.  This is the only actual source code I've found for doing this.  I
am
> > not a c++ kinda guy and am wondering if anyone here can convert the code
> to
> > VB.net for me.  It isn't too long (a few pages of code).  If anyone
thinks
> > they can do this let me know.  No money available, just a challenge.
> >
>
> <<< skipped >>>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Feb 22 06:03:13 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:03:13 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS anti-spyware
Message-ID: <s21b2db8.004@cactus.dk>

Hi John

When in this mood, also go to this key in the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search

and remove Bill's idea of always looking up the MSN Search page when
you type in a not found URL.

/gustav


>>> john at winhaven.net 22-02-2005 03:21:34 >>>
It just gets better and better.
 
I just downloaded the latest iteration of MS anti-spyware and ran a
scan to
see if its any better. (So far its lived up to about 1/10 of the media
hype.)
 
Oh my gosh! It found a browser highjack attempt (How exasperating! I
have
Pest Patrol running 24/7 in order to keep those buggers out!)
 
Oops, never mind, it was just me --- deciding that my homepage
shouldn't be
MSN.com (or whatever irritating homepage IE ships with). (I had changed
it
to my own website's homepage.)
 
System scan:
1 item found
1 item ignored



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Feb 22 06:11:50 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:11:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS anti-spyware
In-Reply-To: <s21b2db8.004@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <005601c518d7$b3737250$6c01a8c0@ColbyM6805>

Or just use Firefox for the day to day browser.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:03 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS anti-spyware


Hi John

When in this mood, also go to this key in the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search

and remove Bill's idea of always looking up the MSN Search page when you
type in a not found URL.

/gustav


>>> john at winhaven.net 22-02-2005 03:21:34 >>>
It just gets better and better.
 
I just downloaded the latest iteration of MS anti-spyware and ran a scan to
see if its any better. (So far its lived up to about 1/10 of the media
hype.)
 
Oh my gosh! It found a browser highjack attempt (How exasperating! I have
Pest Patrol running 24/7 in order to keep those buggers out!)
 
Oops, never mind, it was just me --- deciding that my homepage shouldn't be
MSN.com (or whatever irritating homepage IE ships with). (I had changed it
to my own website's homepage.)
 
System scan:
1 item found
1 item ignored

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Feb 22 08:58:54 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:58:54 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B57FD@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I wanted to share this with you...
 
A week ago I ordered by phone a hotfix for Microsoft Exchange server
2003 at Microsoft support.
Today I called again because I never got the hotfix by mail, so they
would send it asap.
>From time to time, as today, I check my outlook folder to see if any
correct mail got into the spam folder.
Would you believe I found both Hotfix e-mails from Microsoft in my spam
folder?!
 
All other MS does not get blocked MS Outlook spamfilter but the hotfix
mail does....
 
greetz
 

Erwin Craps

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From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Feb 22 09:26:46 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:26:46 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B57FD@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B57FD@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050222072640fc4f4c@mail.gmail.com>

Ervin,

Almost as good as William's story about a client whose currency wire
transfer confirmations were queered by the spam filter!

Steve Erbach


On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:58:54 +0100, Erwin Craps - IT Helps
<Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> wrote:
> I wanted to share this with you...
> 
> A week ago I ordered by phone a hotfix for Microsoft Exchange server
> 2003 at Microsoft support.
> Today I called again because I never got the hotfix by mail, so they
> would send it asap.
> >From time to time, as today, I check my outlook folder to see if any
> correct mail got into the spam folder.
> Would you believe I found both Hotfix e-mails from Microsoft in my spam
> folder?!
> 
> All other MS does not get blocked MS Outlook spamfilter but the hotfix
> mail does....
> 
> greetz
> 
> Erwin Craps


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Feb 22 11:06:36 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:06:36 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B09403@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE7FF@ADGSERVER>

Maybe because it was a HOTfix.  LOL.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:59 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.


I wanted to share this with you...
 
A week ago I ordered by phone a hotfix for Microsoft Exchange server 2003 at
Microsoft support. Today I called again because I never got the hotfix by
mail, so they would send it asap.
>From time to time, as today, I check my outlook folder to see if any
correct mail got into the spam folder.
Would you believe I found both Hotfix e-mails from Microsoft in my spam
folder?!
 
All other MS does not get blocked MS Outlook spamfilter but the hotfix mail
does....
 
greetz
 

Erwin Craps



From john at winhaven.net  Tue Feb 22 11:26:11 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:26:11 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B57FD@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAAUK6+7cIzX0qyoQ8nDMVzcwEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Erwin,
Every now and again the Outlook SPAM filter decides DBA messages are SPAM. I
have added all DBA list addresses to the "Safe Senders' list but it still
happens. Yesterday three DBA-VB messages were sitting in there. 


John "SPAM Filtering is an Art not a Science" Bartow

 


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Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:59 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.

I wanted to share this with you...
 
A week ago I ordered by phone a hotfix for Microsoft Exchange server
2003 at Microsoft support.
Today I called again because I never got the hotfix by mail, so they would
send it asap.
>From time to time, as today, I check my outlook folder to see if any
correct mail got into the spam folder.
Would you believe I found both Hotfix e-mails from Microsoft in my spam
folder?!
 
All other MS does not get blocked MS Outlook spamfilter but the hotfix mail
does....
 
greetz
 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/onsgezin

 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Feb 22 15:34:40 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:34:40 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAAUK6+7cIzX0qyoQ8nDMVzcwEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B57FD@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <421C3210.2015.292AF79@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 22 Feb 2005 at 11:26, John Bartow wrote:

> Erwin,
> Every now and again the Outlook SPAM filter decides DBA messages are SPAM. I
> have added all DBA list addresses to the "Safe Senders' list but it still
> happens. Yesterday three DBA-VB messages were sitting in there. 
> 
> 
> John "SPAM Filtering is an Art not a Science" Bartow
> 

A good Bayesian filter, like POPFilwe or K9, combined with an email client 
that gets filtering right, like Pegasus Mail,  prevents these problems  and 
turns it back into a science. :-)



-- 
Stuart




From john at winhaven.net  Tue Feb 22 16:37:26 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:37:26 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.
In-Reply-To: <421C3210.2015.292AF79@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAAO3oejYzQ0yMaru8DR8fxQEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

OK, I believe you. I just haven't seen it yet! 

:O)

John B. 

> 
> John "SPAM Filtering is an Art not a Science" Bartow
> 

A good Bayesian filter, like POPFilwe or K9, combined with an email client
that gets filtering right, like Pegasus Mail,  prevents these problems  and
turns it back into a science. :-)



--
Stuart



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Feb 23 01:38:47 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:38:47 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5802@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

A good international law with huge fines will probably be more effective
:-)

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens John Bartow
Verzonden: dinsdag 22 februari 2005 23:37
Aan: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Onderwerp: RE: [dba-Tech] OT: MS Anti spam in Outlook 2003.

OK, I believe you. I just haven't seen it yet! 

:O)

John B. 

> 
> John "SPAM Filtering is an Art not a Science" Bartow
> 

A good Bayesian filter, like POPFilwe or K9, combined with an email
client that gets filtering right, like Pegasus Mail,  prevents these
problems  and turns it back into a science. :-)



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From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Feb 23 07:02:17 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:02:17 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
In-Reply-To: <000701c518be$02fb6590$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
References: <002e01c51877$6c021da0$6c01a8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<001601c518b9$8f5e8580$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
	<000701c518be$02fb6590$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050223050287e9ff1@mail.gmail.com>

Shamil,

I visited your home page and was struck by the quote there. It
reminded me of something I'd seen in InfoWorld a few years ago written
by a former programmer:

"If art is making order out of chaos, then software developers are artists
at the highest level. Sure, you will hear about advances that promise to
make the life of the software developer easier -- object-oriented
programming, integrated development environments, and now Web services --
but walk into any development shop and the developers stare intently into
their monitors, facing conundrum after conundrum, but still fighting the
machine and bending it to their will. Developers know that no technology
will take them to the promised land that has been promised many times, but
faith in his or her ability to conquer the machine drives the sometimes
Sisyphean task."

I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI
USA

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300, Shamil Salakhetdinov
<shamil at users.mns.ru> wrote:
> > Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE.
> It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was hanging
> VS.NET 2003.
> It works OK now after I removed this add-in...
> 
> So, I think this wrapper is useful...
> 
> Shamil
> --
> Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Feb 23 07:09:11 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:09:11 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050223050287e9ff1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000701c518be$02fb6590$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <421D0D17.7563.5EA3F76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 23 Feb 2005 at 7:02, Steve Erbach wrote:


> 
> I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer.
> 

Chad Dickerson:
http://infoworld.com/article/02/03/29/020401opconnection_1.html


-- 
Stuart




From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Feb 23 17:16:37 2005
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:16:37 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
References: <002e01c51877$6c021da0$6c01a8c0@ColbyM6805><001601c518b9$8f5e8580$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru><000701c518be$02fb6590$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
	<39cb22f3050223050287e9ff1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002301c519fd$dd0eeb90$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>

> Developers know that no technology will take them
> to the promised land that has been promised many times
Steve,

I believe the sentence above will become false in another 50-100 years :)

Not in my lifetime probably :(

OOP&D, software design patterns, UML and UML-based software design &
development methodologies and practices, agile and extreme programming,
managed code (like C# & VB.NET, managed C++),  effective risk, team &
project management... - all these are promising, really useful and therefore
solid foundation to get the road to the promised land built somewhere in not
that far from today future....

Shamil
--
Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion


> Shamil,
>
> I visited your home page and was struck by the quote there. It
> reminded me of something I'd seen in InfoWorld a few years ago written
> by a former programmer:
>
> "If art is making order out of chaos, then software developers are artists
> at the highest level. Sure, you will hear about advances that promise to
> make the life of the software developer easier -- object-oriented
> programming, integrated development environments, and now Web services --
> but walk into any development shop and the developers stare intently into
> their monitors, facing conundrum after conundrum, but still fighting the
> machine and bending it to their will. Developers know that no technology
> will take them to the promised land that has been promised many times, but
> faith in his or her ability to conquer the machine drives the sometimes
> Sisyphean task."
>
> I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer.
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> USA
>
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300, Shamil Salakhetdinov
> <shamil at users.mns.ru> wrote:
> > > Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE.
> > It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was hanging
> > VS.NET 2003.
> > It works OK now after I removed this add-in...
> >
> > So, I think this wrapper is useful...
> >
> > Shamil
> > --
> > Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 23 18:05:21 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:05:21 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
References: <002e01c51877$6c021da0$6c01a8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<001601c518b9$8f5e8580$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
	<000701c518be$02fb6590$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
	<39cb22f3050223050287e9ff1@mail.gmail.com>
	<002301c519fd$dd0eeb90$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <421D1A41.2010303@shaw.ca>

UML. I had a funny a couple of months ago, when I got called into a 
company to check their records rentention periods
for corporate compliance. I asked for a simple diagram of database 
links. This was a large company and had a couple
of hundred databases spread around the country. Nobody had one. Don't 
you guys use UML or data models
No that is passe, I was told. Each DBA seemed to run his own fiefdom. I 
finally got one of the older hands to sketch me out a map on the backs 
of beer coasters.
Transfered that to Visio then to System Architect. About a week later 
the CIO got a copy of my basic diagrams
and demanded a fully fleshed out one, he had been looking for one for a 
couple of years.


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>>Developers know that no technology will take them
>>to the promised land that has been promised many times
>>    
>>
>Steve,
>
>I believe the sentence above will become false in another 50-100 years :)
>
>Not in my lifetime probably :(
>
>OOP&D, software design patterns, UML and UML-based software design &
>development methodologies and practices, agile and extreme programming,
>managed code (like C# & VB.NET, managed C++),  effective risk, team &
>project management... - all these are promising, really useful and therefore
>solid foundation to get the road to the promised land built somewhere in not
>that far from today future....
>
>Shamil
>--
>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
>
>
>  
>
>>Shamil,
>>
>>I visited your home page and was struck by the quote there. It
>>reminded me of something I'd seen in InfoWorld a few years ago written
>>by a former programmer:
>>
>>"If art is making order out of chaos, then software developers are artists
>>at the highest level. Sure, you will hear about advances that promise to
>>make the life of the software developer easier -- object-oriented
>>programming, integrated development environments, and now Web services --
>>but walk into any development shop and the developers stare intently into
>>their monitors, facing conundrum after conundrum, but still fighting the
>>machine and bending it to their will. Developers know that no technology
>>will take them to the promised land that has been promised many times, but
>>faith in his or her ability to conquer the machine drives the sometimes
>>Sisyphean task."
>>
>>I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer.
>>
>>Steve Erbach
>>Neenah, WI
>>USA
>>
>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300, Shamil Salakhetdinov
>><shamil at users.mns.ru> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>>Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was hanging
>>>VS.NET 2003.
>>>It works OK now after I removed this add-in...
>>>
>>>So, I think this wrapper is useful...
>>>
>>>Shamil
>>>--
>>>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>dba-Tech mailing list
>>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Feb 23 19:18:10 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:18:10 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
In-Reply-To: <421D1A41.2010303@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000d01c51a0e$b4648cc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Exactly how do you "flesh out" a diagram of hundreds of databases?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:05 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion


UML. I had a funny a couple of months ago, when I got called into a 
company to check their records rentention periods
for corporate compliance. I asked for a simple diagram of database 
links. This was a large company and had a couple
of hundred databases spread around the country. Nobody had one. Don't 
you guys use UML or data models
No that is passe, I was told. Each DBA seemed to run his own fiefdom. I 
finally got one of the older hands to sketch me out a map on the backs 
of beer coasters.
Transfered that to Visio then to System Architect. About a week later 
the CIO got a copy of my basic diagrams
and demanded a fully fleshed out one, he had been looking for one for a 
couple of years.


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>>Developers know that no technology will take them
>>to the promised land that has been promised many times
>>    
>>
>Steve,
>
>I believe the sentence above will become false in another 50-100 years 
>:)
>
>Not in my lifetime probably :(
>
>OOP&D, software design patterns, UML and UML-based software design & 
>development methodologies and practices, agile and extreme programming, 
>managed code (like C# & VB.NET, managed C++),  effective risk, team & 
>project management... - all these are promising, really useful and 
>therefore solid foundation to get the road to the promised land built 
>somewhere in not that far from today future....
>
>Shamil
>--
>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
>
>
>  
>
>>Shamil,
>>
>>I visited your home page and was struck by the quote there. It 
>>reminded me of something I'd seen in InfoWorld a few years ago written 
>>by a former programmer:
>>
>>"If art is making order out of chaos, then software developers are 
>>artists at the highest level. Sure, you will hear about advances that 
>>promise to make the life of the software developer easier -- 
>>object-oriented programming, integrated development environments, and 
>>now Web services -- but walk into any development shop and the 
>>developers stare intently into their monitors, facing conundrum after 
>>conundrum, but still fighting the machine and bending it to their 
>>will. Developers know that no technology will take them to the 
>>promised land that has been promised many times, but faith in his or 
>>her ability to conquer the machine drives the sometimes Sisyphean 
>>task."
>>
>>I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer.
>>
>>Steve Erbach
>>Neenah, WI
>>USA
>>
>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300, Shamil Salakhetdinov 
>><shamil at users.mns.ru> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>>Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was 
>>>hanging VS.NET 2003. It works OK now after I removed this add-in...
>>>
>>>So, I think this wrapper is useful...
>>>
>>>Shamil
>>>--
>>>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>dba-Tech mailing list
>>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>    
>>
>
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>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 23 20:32:31 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:32:31 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
References: <000d01c51a0e$b4648cc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <421D3CBF.7070405@shaw.ca>

Very carefully otherwise you end up with something that looks like a 
plate of spaghetti
or the diagrams wrap several times around the walls of a conference room.
You have to use a tool that allows disolving of nonessential diagrams or 
events.
I have seen data flow diagrams of large systems where things like 
temporary Syncsort files were included.

John W. Colby wrote:

>Exactly how do you "flesh out" a diagram of hundreds of databases?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:05 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
>
>
>UML. I had a funny a couple of months ago, when I got called into a 
>company to check their records rentention periods
>for corporate compliance. I asked for a simple diagram of database 
>links. This was a large company and had a couple
>of hundred databases spread around the country. Nobody had one. Don't 
>you guys use UML or data models
>No that is passe, I was told. Each DBA seemed to run his own fiefdom. I 
>finally got one of the older hands to sketch me out a map on the backs 
>of beer coasters.
>Transfered that to Visio then to System Architect. About a week later 
>the CIO got a copy of my basic diagrams
>and demanded a fully fleshed out one, he had been looking for one for a 
>couple of years.
>
>
>Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>Developers know that no technology will take them
>>>to the promised land that has been promised many times
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Steve,
>>
>>I believe the sentence above will become false in another 50-100 years 
>>:)
>>
>>Not in my lifetime probably :(
>>
>>OOP&D, software design patterns, UML and UML-based software design & 
>>development methodologies and practices, agile and extreme programming, 
>>managed code (like C# & VB.NET, managed C++),  effective risk, team & 
>>project management... - all these are promising, really useful and 
>>therefore solid foundation to get the road to the promised land built 
>>somewhere in not that far from today future....
>>
>>Shamil
>>--
>>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
>><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:02 PM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Shamil,
>>>
>>>I visited your home page and was struck by the quote there. It 
>>>reminded me of something I'd seen in InfoWorld a few years ago written 
>>>by a former programmer:
>>>
>>>"If art is making order out of chaos, then software developers are 
>>>artists at the highest level. Sure, you will hear about advances that 
>>>promise to make the life of the software developer easier -- 
>>>object-oriented programming, integrated development environments, and 
>>>now Web services -- but walk into any development shop and the 
>>>developers stare intently into their monitors, facing conundrum after 
>>>conundrum, but still fighting the machine and bending it to their 
>>>will. Developers know that no technology will take them to the 
>>>promised land that has been promised many times, but faith in his or 
>>>her ability to conquer the machine drives the sometimes Sisyphean 
>>>task."
>>>
>>>I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer.
>>>
>>>Steve Erbach
>>>Neenah, WI
>>>USA
>>>
>>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300, Shamil Salakhetdinov 
>>><shamil at users.mns.ru> wrote:
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE.
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was 
>>>>hanging VS.NET 2003. It works OK now after I removed this add-in...
>>>>
>>>>So, I think this wrapper is useful...
>>>>
>>>>Shamil
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>>>>
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Thu Feb 24 08:40:08 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:40:08 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2495@ALCUXB>

Hi all
 
I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had a
good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software", I
thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's no
bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
they're going to want to do that straight away.
 
Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
like this.
 
 
Jon


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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Feb 24 09:07:42 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:07:42 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B580F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


I use the family version of Spy Sweeper and find it pretty good.
http://www.webroot.com/
They do have business versions also.


I also tried Pest Patrol for a year or so, but find it not fully
compleet and not to user friendly, but maybe that changed. In several
cases I noticed that Pest Patrol did not scanned several spy's where Spy
sweeper did.
I read some articles saying that some spy detecting software does not
detect some spy soft if from a certain "spy manufactor". In this is true
I would believe, based on my experiances this is the case with pest
patrol.
Or they are not fast enough to discover new spy's. Either case not a
good thing.

There is some spy detection in version 8 of McAfee virusscan enterprise
but it is not actived by default.
I find it rather version 0.9 then version 8, so current I stick to Spy
sweeper.

 Erwin




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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:40 PM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools

Hi all
 
I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just
had a good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised
software", I thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level
products. I don't know of any of them, and a google search only really
came up with McAfee's one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our
anti-virus products. That's no bad thing in terms of security, but in
terms of cost, I'm not sure that they're going to want to do that
straight away.
 
Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things
should anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise
level apps like this.
 
 
Jon


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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Feb 24 09:08:16 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:08:16 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D2495@ALCUXB>
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Jon,
PestPatrol has a Corporate Edition - you can get a 30 trial from
http://ca.com/products/pestpatrol/ I have used the personal edition for a
couple of years and can highly recommend it. I have the trial edition of
Corp. but haven't tried it yet.

Sunbelt Software's CounterSpy (corporate Edition) has been getting really
good reviews but I haven't tired it yet. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/
(Sunbelt Software used to resell PestPatrol before CA bought it-they
developed this as a replacement for it.)

Webroot has SpySweeper Enterprise
http://www.webroot.com/products/enterprise/?WRSID=7bfef45f9c55f1ad0d129d4a25
131c2d once again I have not tried the enterprise edition but the personal
edition is top notch.

HTH
John B. 

 


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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:40 AM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools

Hi all
 
I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had a
good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software", I
thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's no
bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
they're going to want to do that straight away.
 
Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
like this.
 
 
Jon


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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Thu Feb 24 09:17:11 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:17:11 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D249C@ALCUXB>

Thanks John and Erwin, I'll do a bit more searching and report back to my
bosses.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 24 February 2005 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


Jon,
PestPatrol has a Corporate Edition - you can get a 30 trial from
http://ca.com/products/pestpatrol/ I have used the personal edition for a
couple of years and can highly recommend it. I have the trial edition of
Corp. but haven't tried it yet.

Sunbelt Software's CounterSpy (corporate Edition) has been getting really
good reviews but I haven't tired it yet. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/
(Sunbelt Software used to resell PestPatrol before CA bought it-they
developed this as a replacement for it.)

Webroot has SpySweeper Enterprise
http://www.webroot.com/products/enterprise/?WRSID=7bfef45f9c55f1ad0d129d4a25
131c2d once again I have not tried the enterprise edition but the personal
edition is top notch.

HTH
John B. 

 


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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:40 AM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools

Hi all
 
I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had a
good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software", I
thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's no
bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
they're going to want to do that straight away.
 
Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
like this.
 
 
Jon


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Feb 24 10:10:43 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:10:43 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
References: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D249C@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <00f901c51a8b$645b2b80$6901a8c0@HAL9002>

Jon:

I'm using the beta version of Microsoft's (Giant's) AS.  Seems to be OK.  I 
also run Ad-Aware and SpyBot and they all seem to find different things. 
But the MS one live updates itself every day.

Maybe since it's MS and, at the moment it's free, they might find that 
attractive.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Tydda" <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


> Thanks John and Erwin, I'll do a bit more searching and report back to my
> bosses.
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: 24 February 2005 15:08
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
>
>
> Jon,
> PestPatrol has a Corporate Edition - you can get a 30 trial from
> http://ca.com/products/pestpatrol/ I have used the personal edition for a
> couple of years and can highly recommend it. I have the trial edition of
> Corp. but haven't tried it yet.
>
> Sunbelt Software's CounterSpy (corporate Edition) has been getting really
> good reviews but I haven't tired it yet. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/
> (Sunbelt Software used to resell PestPatrol before CA bought it-they
> developed this as a replacement for it.)
>
> Webroot has SpySweeper Enterprise
> http://www.webroot.com/products/enterprise/?WRSID=7bfef45f9c55f1ad0d129d4a25
> 131c2d once again I have not tried the enterprise edition but the personal
> edition is top notch.
>
> HTH
> John B.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:40 AM
> To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had 
> a
> good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software", 
> I
> thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
> know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
> one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's 
> no
> bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
> they're going to want to do that straight away.
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
> applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
> anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
> like this.
>
>
> Jon
>
>
> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally
> privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject 
> to
> the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk
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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Feb 24 10:16:14 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:16:14 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B580F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAQvExib071E6gfm725jY2rgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Erwin,
I've been running it for years now. Version 4 had some update issues but
that was sporadic and I had dial-up at the time.  CA actually improved the
product over the original company. I now have no problems now with version
5.

Every couple of weeks I run SpySweeper, Spybot S&D, Adware, Xcleaner, and MS
anti-spy. The only thing that has come up lately that the PestPatrol real
time monitor has missed are cookies (and MS anti-spy continually commplains
if I change my home page/search page from their's).

I put PestPatrol and SpySweeper at the top of my SOHO list of anti-spyware
programs.
John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:08 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


I use the family version of Spy Sweeper and find it pretty good.
http://www.webroot.com/
They do have business versions also.


I also tried Pest Patrol for a year or so, but find it not fully compleet
and not to user friendly, but maybe that changed. In several cases I noticed
that Pest Patrol did not scanned several spy's where Spy sweeper did.
I read some articles saying that some spy detecting software does not detect
some spy soft if from a certain "spy manufactor". In this is true I would
believe, based on my experiances this is the case with pest patrol.
Or they are not fast enough to discover new spy's. Either case not a good
thing.

There is some spy detection in version 8 of McAfee virusscan enterprise but
it is not actived by default.
I find it rather version 0.9 then version 8, so current I stick to Spy
sweeper.

 Erwin




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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:40 PM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools

Hi all
 
I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had a
good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software", I
thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's no
bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
they're going to want to do that straight away.
 
Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
like this.
 
 
Jon


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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Thu Feb 24 10:22:13 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:22:13 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D24A1@ALCUXB>

Apparently not... that's what I got the "talking to" about... It's because
although Giant's version was "real", the MS one is a Beta version, and they
weren't happy about it being on a server. Maybe when it's properly released,
although I've been told not to install anything without asking in future...
oh well :-)

I've got Giant at home though, and I find it's really good, and I like the
live update feature too. But you can set ad-aware and spybot to live update
when they start up, although all three would require that a user account has
internet access, and not all of ours do. That's one reason I was looking for
an enterprise managed application rather than several standalone ones.

Thanks though :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: 24 February 2005 16:11
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


Jon:

I'm using the beta version of Microsoft's (Giant's) AS.  Seems to be OK.  I 
also run Ad-Aware and SpyBot and they all seem to find different things. 
But the MS one live updates itself every day.

Maybe since it's MS and, at the moment it's free, they might find that 
attractive.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Tydda" <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


> Thanks John and Erwin, I'll do a bit more searching and report back to my
> bosses.
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: 24 February 2005 15:08
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
>
>
> Jon,
> PestPatrol has a Corporate Edition - you can get a 30 trial from
> http://ca.com/products/pestpatrol/ I have used the personal edition for a
> couple of years and can highly recommend it. I have the trial edition of
> Corp. but haven't tried it yet.
>
> Sunbelt Software's CounterSpy (corporate Edition) has been getting really
> good reviews but I haven't tired it yet. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/
> (Sunbelt Software used to resell PestPatrol before CA bought it-they
> developed this as a replacement for it.)
>
> Webroot has SpySweeper Enterprise
>
http://www.webroot.com/products/enterprise/?WRSID=7bfef45f9c55f1ad0d129d4a25
> 131c2d once again I have not tried the enterprise edition but the personal
> edition is top notch.
>
> HTH
> John B.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:40 AM
> To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had 
> a
> good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software",

> I
> thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
> know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
> one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's 
> no
> bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
> they're going to want to do that straight away.
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
> applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
> anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
> like this.
>
>
> Jon
>
>
> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally
> privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject 
> to
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Thu Feb 24 10:27:11 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:27:11 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D24A3@ALCUXB>

If you go to the settings page of the MS one, you can disable the allow
alerts etc, and then go to explorer settings (within MS Giant) enter your
homepage once, it will never complain about that again. Took me a few hours
to get it all set up properly on my pc here, but it's all fine on them all
now :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 24 February 2005 16:16
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


Erwin,
I've been running it for years now. Version 4 had some update issues but
that was sporadic and I had dial-up at the time.  CA actually improved the
product over the original company. I now have no problems now with version
5.

Every couple of weeks I run SpySweeper, Spybot S&D, Adware, Xcleaner, and MS
anti-spy. The only thing that has come up lately that the PestPatrol real
time monitor has missed are cookies (and MS anti-spy continually commplains
if I change my home page/search page from their's).

I put PestPatrol and SpySweeper at the top of my SOHO list of anti-spyware
programs.
John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:08 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


I use the family version of Spy Sweeper and find it pretty good.
http://www.webroot.com/
They do have business versions also.


I also tried Pest Patrol for a year or so, but find it not fully compleet
and not to user friendly, but maybe that changed. In several cases I noticed
that Pest Patrol did not scanned several spy's where Spy sweeper did.
I read some articles saying that some spy detecting software does not detect
some spy soft if from a certain "spy manufactor". In this is true I would
believe, based on my experiances this is the case with pest patrol.
Or they are not fast enough to discover new spy's. Either case not a good
thing.

There is some spy detection in version 8 of McAfee virusscan enterprise but
it is not actived by default.
I find it rather version 0.9 then version 8, so current I stick to Spy
sweeper.

 Erwin




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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:40 PM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools

Hi all
 
I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had a
good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software", I
thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's no
bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
they're going to want to do that straight away.
 
Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
like this.
 
 
Jon


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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Thu Feb 24 10:44:08 2005
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (jmoss111 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:44:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
Message-ID: <20050224164408.HOJN2072.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>

I'm not sure about enterprise level protection, but the last release of Trend Micro PC-Cillin Internet Security does a very good job with spyware, antivirus and personal firewall, all for one price. And I found a five pack on eBay for $39.00 US.
> 
> From: Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>
> Date: 2005/02/24 Thu AM 09:40:08 EST
> To: "Dba-Tech (E-mail)" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
> 
> Hi all
>  
> I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had a
> good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software", I
> thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
> know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
> one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's no
> bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
> they're going to want to do that straight away.
>  
> Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
> applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
> anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
> like this.
>  
>  
> Jon
> 
> 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Feb 24 10:52:32 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:52:32 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook
Message-ID: <001e01c51a91$3be2da30$123a11d8@danwaters>

I have two Accounts in Outlook.  One is for home, the other is business.
I'd like to set up different signatures for each account.  Is there a way to
do this?

 

Dan Waters

President

ProMation Systems, Inc.

 



From john at winhaven.net  Thu Feb 24 10:53:03 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:53:03 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
In-Reply-To: <00f901c51a8b$645b2b80$6901a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAAmX5U5A5fR0WsB0y2jyKlagEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

I think all the pay for apps have real time monitoring and auto-update
features. 


John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:11 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools

Jon:

I'm using the beta version of Microsoft's (Giant's) AS.  Seems to be OK.  I
also run Ad-Aware and SpyBot and they all seem to find different things. 
But the MS one live updates itself every day.

Maybe since it's MS and, at the moment it's free, they might find that
attractive.

Rocky

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From: "Jon Tydda" <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


> Thanks John and Erwin, I'll do a bit more searching and report back to my
> bosses.
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: 24 February 2005 15:08
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
>
>
> Jon,
> PestPatrol has a Corporate Edition - you can get a 30 trial from
> http://ca.com/products/pestpatrol/ I have used the personal edition for a
> couple of years and can highly recommend it. I have the trial edition of
> Corp. but haven't tried it yet.
>
> Sunbelt Software's CounterSpy (corporate Edition) has been getting really
> good reviews but I haven't tired it yet. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/
> (Sunbelt Software used to resell PestPatrol before CA bought it-they
> developed this as a replacement for it.)
>
> Webroot has SpySweeper Enterprise
>
http://www.webroot.com/products/enterprise/?WRSID=7bfef45f9c55f1ad0d129d4a25
> 131c2d once again I have not tried the enterprise edition but the personal
> edition is top notch.
>
> HTH
> John B.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:40 AM
> To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had 
> a
> good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software",

> I
> thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
> know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
> one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's 
> no
> bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
> they're going to want to do that straight away.
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
> applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
> anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
> like this.
>
>
> Jon
>
>
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Thu Feb 24 11:00:10 2005
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:00:10 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D24AA@ALCUXB>

In Outlook 2000, go to Tools - Options - Mail Format and click on the
signature picker button at the bottom. Then you can create/delete them at
your whim.

You can do all sorts of funky things with them, especially if you know HTML
and edit them in word.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: 24 February 2005 16:53
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook


I have two Accounts in Outlook.  One is for home, the other is business.
I'd like to set up different signatures for each account.  Is there a way to
do this?

 

Dan Waters

President

ProMation Systems, Inc.

 

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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Feb 24 11:02:17 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:02:17 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook
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Depends on the version. 


John B. 

 


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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:53 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook

I have two Accounts in Outlook.  One is for home, the other is business.
I'd like to set up different signatures for each account.  Is there a way to
do this?

 

Dan Waters

President

ProMation Systems, Inc.

 

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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Feb 24 11:02:17 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:02:17 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D24A3@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7QKKAAAQAAAA9Q7D7ywHrE2Lep2zi5cNJAEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Thanks Jon,
I did it in the program where it says "ignore this forever". Twice and it
didn't hold. I'll let it set it back and then follow your routine. Just
oozing user friendliness...
:-(

Most Spyware programs are eventually going to find something that you don't
personally consider spyware or don't care if it is - the option to ignore is
kind of important then.


John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools

If you go to the settings page of the MS one, you can disable the allow
alerts etc, and then go to explorer settings (within MS Giant) enter your
homepage once, it will never complain about that again. Took me a few hours
to get it all set up properly on my pc here, but it's all fine on them all
now :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 24 February 2005 16:16
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


Erwin,
I've been running it for years now. Version 4 had some update issues but
that was sporadic and I had dial-up at the time.  CA actually improved the
product over the original company. I now have no problems now with version
5.

Every couple of weeks I run SpySweeper, Spybot S&D, Adware, Xcleaner, and MS
anti-spy. The only thing that has come up lately that the PestPatrol real
time monitor has missed are cookies (and MS anti-spy continually commplains
if I change my home page/search page from their's).

I put PestPatrol and SpySweeper at the top of my SOHO list of anti-spyware
programs.
John B. 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:08 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools


I use the family version of Spy Sweeper and find it pretty good.
http://www.webroot.com/
They do have business versions also.


I also tried Pest Patrol for a year or so, but find it not fully compleet
and not to user friendly, but maybe that changed. In several cases I noticed
that Pest Patrol did not scanned several spy's where Spy sweeper did.
I read some articles saying that some spy detecting software does not detect
some spy soft if from a certain "spy manufactor". In this is true I would
believe, based on my experiances this is the case with pest patrol.
Or they are not fast enough to discover new spy's. Either case not a good
thing.

There is some spy detection in version 8 of McAfee virusscan enterprise but
it is not actived by default.
I find it rather version 0.9 then version 8, so current I stick to Spy
sweeper.

 Erwin




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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:40 PM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Enterprise Anti-Spyware tools

Hi all
 
I'm fairly up on personal anti-spyware tools, but seeing a how I just had a
good "talking to" from my bosses about installing "unauthorised software", I
thought I'd better look into commercial enterprise level products. I don't
know of any of them, and a google search only really came up with McAfee's
one, which requires us to upgrade 80% of our anti-virus products. That's no
bad thing in terms of security, but in terms of cost, I'm not sure that
they're going to want to do that straight away.
 
Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of any other commercial
applications, with a warranty/service department who can fix things should
anything go awry, or if anyone had any experience of enterprise level apps
like this.
 
 
Jon


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Feb 24 11:38:23 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:38:23 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <16449455.1109264784133.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <003001c51a97$a3b88550$123a11d8@danwaters>

Nice!  Got it done.

Now - can Outlook (XP) automatically select a signature based on which email
account I'm using?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook

In Outlook 2000, go to Tools - Options - Mail Format and click on the
signature picker button at the bottom. Then you can create/delete them at
your whim.

You can do all sorts of funky things with them, especially if you know HTML
and edit them in word.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: 24 February 2005 16:53
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook


I have two Accounts in Outlook.  One is for home, the other is business.
I'd like to set up different signatures for each account.  Is there a way to
do this?

 

Dan Waters

President

ProMation Systems, Inc.

 

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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Feb 24 11:38:58 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:38:58 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Contact Manager
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAKOBu93YSI06OwVYLAdBXrQEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Anyone using O2K3's Outlook Contact Manager add-in?
 
If so any good?
 
TIA
John B.


From jon at tydda.plus.com  Thu Feb 24 14:18:24 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:18:24 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <003001c51a97$a3b88550$123a11d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDGEMDCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

Can't help you with that I'm afraid, I'm stuck with 2k both at home and at
work. 2k doesn't, but then I also can't find a way to say which account
you're sending from either...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: 24 February 2005 17:38
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook


Nice!  Got it done.

Now - can Outlook (XP) automatically select a signature based on which email
account I'm using?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook

In Outlook 2000, go to Tools - Options - Mail Format and click on the
signature picker button at the bottom. Then you can create/delete them at
your whim.

You can do all sorts of funky things with them, especially if you know HTML
and edit them in word.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: 24 February 2005 16:53
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook


I have two Accounts in Outlook.  One is for home, the other is business.
I'd like to set up different signatures for each account.  Is there a way to
do this?



Dan Waters

President

ProMation Systems, Inc.



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Feb 24 16:09:42 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:09:42 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EA9D24AA@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <421EDD46.17886.CFF777B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 24 Feb 2005 at 17:00, Jon Tydda wrote:

> In Outlook 2000, go to Tools - Options - Mail Format and click on the
> signature picker button at the bottom. Then you can create/delete them at
> your whim.
> 
> You can do all sorts of funky things with them, especially if you know HTML
> and edit them in word.
> 

I agree with you 100%.  Bloated Word generated HTML, especially when used 
for signature blocks really stinks :-)

"funk?y2 (fu(ng'ke-) pronunciation
adj., -i?er, -i?est.
   1.
         1. Having a moldy or musty smell: funky cheese; funky cellars.
         2. Having a strong, offensive, unwashed odor.  "










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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Thu Feb 24 17:01:55 2005
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:01:55 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <421EDD46.17886.CFF777B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <HAELJOBEJAIGMIEGGPPDOEMDCEAA.jon@tydda.plus.com>

lol :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: 24 February 2005 22:10
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Signatures in Outlook


On 24 Feb 2005 at 17:00, Jon Tydda wrote:

> In Outlook 2000, go to Tools - Options - Mail Format and click on the
> signature picker button at the bottom. Then you can create/delete them at
> your whim.
>
> You can do all sorts of funky things with them, especially if you know
HTML
> and edit them in word.
>

I agree with you 100%.  Bloated Word generated HTML, especially when used
for signature blocks really stinks :-)

"funk?y2 (fu(ng'ke-) pronunciation
adj., -i?er, -i?est.
   1.
         1. Having a moldy or musty smell: funky cheese; funky cellars.
         2. Having a strong, offensive, unwashed odor.  "










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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Feb 25 13:11:42 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:11:42 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox 1.0.1 security update
Message-ID: <b874372a0502251111692570b0@mail.gmail.com>

A while back people on the list were whining about a lack of security
roll outs from the mozzy group.

visit www.getfirefox.com to get your update  (or follow the link on my sig)
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http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...


From john at winhaven.net  Fri Feb 25 15:45:06 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:45:06 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] AV product breaches
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAsyM7W/xmvEOoY55jaT1FNgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Just got this from Watchguard:
 
Trend Micro AV Ushers Hackers Right In

*
<http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?VName=Vulnerabil
ity+in+VSAPI+ARJ+parsing+could+allow+Remote+Code+execution> Trend Micro's
ARJ Buffer Overflow Alert 
 
A similar thin ghappened to Symantec a couple weeks ago:
*	 <http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/189> ISS X-Force's ARJ
Buffer Overflow Alert 
 
 
John B.


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Feb 26 10:08:41 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 10:08:41 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
Message-ID: <000101c51c1d$70b497c0$123a11d8@danwaters>

I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for about 9
months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was supposed to be
the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people from various IT
functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT manager has
suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a possible alternative before
he makes a decision on what technology to use.  

 

So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of what
Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing -  how
have people really used it to their advantage and what should it not be used
for?

 

Thanks!

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

 

 



From erbachs at gmail.com  Sat Feb 26 10:12:56 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 10:12:56 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] AV product breaches
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAsyM7W/xmvEOoY55jaT1FNgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAsyM7W/xmvEOoY55jaT1FNgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050226081274790e7e@mail.gmail.com>

John,

FWIW, Jerry Pournelle has commented on his web site that all the focus
on C++ over the years is reaping the whirlwind, so to speak. That is,
with a more strongly typed language, there would be no such thing as
buffer overflows. Do you or does anyone else here have a feel for
that?

Steve Erbach


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:45:06 -0600, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> Just got this from Watchguard:
> 
> Trend Micro AV Ushers Hackers Right In
> 
> *
> <http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?VName=Vulnerabil
> ity+in+VSAPI+ARJ+parsing+could+allow+Remote+Code+execution> Trend Micro's
> ARJ Buffer Overflow Alert
> 
> A similar thin ghappened to Symantec a couple weeks ago:
> *        <http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/189> ISS X-Force's ARJ
> Buffer Overflow Alert
> 
> John B.


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Feb 27 09:26:10 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:26:10 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
Message-ID: <s221f4bb.008@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan

One of the cons is the high license costs.

I haven't been working with it. 
Does anyone know of a public Sharepoint server you can connect to and
do live test?

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 26-02-2005 17:08:41 >>>
I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for
about 9
months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was supposed to
be
the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people from various IT
functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT
manager has
suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a possible alternative
before
he makes a decision on what technology to use.  

So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of what
Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing - 
how
have people really used it to their advantage and what should it not be
used
for? 

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Feb 27 09:37:49 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:37:49 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
In-Reply-To: <s221f4bb.008@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000f01c51ce2$4adc37e0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Sharepoint server is a part of the action pack IIRC.  I never knew what it
did so I never installed it.  There are a bunch of action pack subscribers
on the list though.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:26 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server


Hi Dan

One of the cons is the high license costs.

I haven't been working with it. 
Does anyone know of a public Sharepoint server you can connect to and do
live test?

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 26-02-2005 17:08:41 >>>
I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for about 9
months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was supposed to be
the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people from various IT
functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT manager has
suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a possible alternative before
he makes a decision on what technology to use.  

So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of what
Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing - 
how
have people really used it to their advantage and what should it not be used
for? 

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Feb 27 10:18:04 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:18:04 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
In-Reply-To: <5942957.1109518219543.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <000001c51ce7$eac6fe20$123a11d8@danwaters>

Hi Gustav,

Do you know what the license costs would be?  This could make the difference
for my customer.

Thanks,
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:26 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server

Hi Dan

One of the cons is the high license costs.

I haven't been working with it. 
Does anyone know of a public Sharepoint server you can connect to and
do live test?

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 26-02-2005 17:08:41 >>>
I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for
about 9
months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was supposed to
be
the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people from various IT
functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT
manager has
suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a possible alternative
before
he makes a decision on what technology to use.  

So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of what
Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing - 
how
have people really used it to their advantage and what should it not be
used
for? 

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Feb 27 10:24:53 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:24:53 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
Message-ID: <s222027c.011@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan

I don't have the exact cost. However, it is about USD 6000 for the
server and maybe USD 100 for each seat (CAL). For a large company this
is peanuts but for our small clients it is prohibitive.

As John says, it is in the Action Pack which we do have, but we haven't
bothered installing it due to it's very limited potential caused by the
license fees.

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 27-02-2005 17:18:04 >>>
Hi Gustav,

Do you know what the license costs would be?  This could make the
difference
for my customer.

Thanks,
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:26 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server

Hi Dan

One of the cons is the high license costs.

I haven't been working with it. 
Does anyone know of a public Sharepoint server you can connect to and
do live test?

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 26-02-2005 17:08:41 >>>
I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for
about 9 months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was
supposed to
be the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people from various IT
functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT
manager has suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a possible
alternative
before he makes a decision on what technology to use.  

So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of what
Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing -

how have people really used it to their advantage and what should it
not be
used for? 

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sun Feb 27 11:09:13 2005
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:09:13 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
References: <s222027c.011@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000c01c51cef$1038b340$0100a8c0@Martin>

MS have a demo site up which you can use etc 

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/sharepoint/trial.mspx


Martin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server


> Hi Dan
> 
> I don't have the exact cost. However, it is about USD 6000 for the
> server and maybe USD 100 for each seat (CAL). For a large company this
> is peanuts but for our small clients it is prohibitive.
> 
> As John says, it is in the Action Pack which we do have, but we haven't
> bothered installing it due to it's very limited potential caused by the
> license fees.
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 27-02-2005 17:18:04 >>>
> Hi Gustav,
> 
> Do you know what the license costs would be?  This could make the
> difference
> for my customer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
> Brock
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:26 AM
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
> 
> Hi Dan
> 
> One of the cons is the high license costs.
> 
> I haven't been working with it. 
> Does anyone know of a public Sharepoint server you can connect to and
> do live test?
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 26-02-2005 17:08:41 >>>
> I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for
> about 9 months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was
> supposed to
> be the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people from various IT
> functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT
> manager has suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a possible
> alternative
> before he makes a decision on what technology to use.  
> 
> So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of what
> Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing -
> 
> how have people really used it to their advantage and what should it
> not be
> used for? 
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Feb 27 12:11:52 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:11:52 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
Message-ID: <s2221b95.012@cactus.dk>

Hi Martin

That's a nice link for a 30 days trial.

>From this I also located this article by Mike Gunderloy which, I guess,
is close to the sphere and minds of our fellow listers:

"Using Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services with the Microsoft Office
System"

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dno2k3ta/html/odc_OfOfficeSysandWSS.asp


/gustav

cc: AccessD

>>> mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk 27-02-2005 18:09:13 >>>
MS have a demo site up which you can use etc 

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/sharepoint/trial.mspx



Martin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server


> Hi Dan
> 
> I don't have the exact cost. However, it is about USD 6000 for the
> server and maybe USD 100 for each seat (CAL). For a large company
this
> is peanuts but for our small clients it is prohibitive.
> 
> As John says, it is in the Action Pack which we do have, but we
haven't
> bothered installing it due to it's very limited potential caused by
the
> license fees.
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 27-02-2005 17:18:04 >>>
> Hi Gustav,
> 
> Do you know what the license costs would be?  This could make the
> difference for my customer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
> Brock
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:26 AM
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
> 
> Hi Dan
> 
> One of the cons is the high license costs.
> 
> I haven't been working with it. 
> Does anyone know of a public Sharepoint server you can connect to
and
> do live test?
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 26-02-2005 17:08:41 >>>
> I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for
> about 9 months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was
> supposed to be the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people
from various IT
> functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT
> manager has suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a
possible
> alternative before he makes a decision on what technology to use.  
> 
> So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of
what
> Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing
-
> 
> how have people really used it to their advantage and what should it
> not be used for? 
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Feb 27 12:13:12 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:13:12 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] AV product breaches
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAsyM7W/xmvEOoY55jaT1FNgEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
	<39cb22f3050226081274790e7e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42220DB8.4070401@shaw.ca>

You can also approach this through hardware, I believe some IBM 
mainframes have had this for years
On desktop cpu's this method has several names. Microsoft has several 
names so does Intel and AMD.
This has to be checked before implementation in production environments.

See execute disable bit Win XP SP 2 enables it on 32 bit machines
http://www.intel.com/business/bss/infrastructure/security/flash.htm

One solution is to use Win XP SP2 and brand new Intel or AMD 32 bit 
chips with Execute Disable bit set
Right now it is only available in Intel Itanium Servers  and AMD Athalon 
64 bit servers.
http://www.intel.com/business/bss/infrastructure/security/xdbit.htm

What it does, is set apart pages of memory to be data only, so code 
cannot be executed from it.

http://www.intel.com/business/bss/infrastructure/security/flash.htm

On CPUs that support execution protection (NX) technology, Windows XP 
Service Pack 2 marks data pages non-executable. This feature of the 
underlying hardware prevents execution of code from pages marked in this 
way. This prevents attackers from overrunning a marked data buffer with 
code and then executing the code; it would have stopped the Blaster worm 
dead in its tracks. The only processor families that currently support 
NX are the 64-bit AMD K8 and Intel Itanium; however, Microsoft expects 
future 32-bit and 64-bit processors to provide hardware based execution 
protection.. In addition to supporting NX, Service Pack 2 implements 
sandboxing. All binaries in the system have been recompiled with buffer 
security checks enabled to allow the runtime libraries to catch most 
stack buffer overruns, and "cookies" have been added to the heap to 
allow the runtime libraries to catch most heap buffer overruns.

Steve Erbach wrote:

>John,
>
>FWIW, Jerry Pournelle has commented on his web site that all the focus
>on C++ over the years is reaping the whirlwind, so to speak. That is,
>with a more strongly typed language, there would be no such thing as
>buffer overflows. Do you or does anyone else here have a feel for
>that?
>
>Steve Erbach
>
>
>On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:45:06 -0600, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
>  
>
>>Just got this from Watchguard:
>>
>>Trend Micro AV Ushers Hackers Right In
>>
>>*
>><http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?VName=Vulnerabil
>>ity+in+VSAPI+ARJ+parsing+could+allow+Remote+Code+execution> Trend Micro's
>>ARJ Buffer Overflow Alert
>>
>>A similar thin ghappened to Symantec a couple weeks ago:
>>*        <http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/189> ISS X-Force's ARJ
>>Buffer Overflow Alert
>>
>>John B.
>>    
>>
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>dba-Tech mailing list
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>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Feb 27 12:35:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:35:26 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
References: <s222027c.011@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <422212EE.9010808@shaw.ca>

Microsoft Office SharePoint Portal Server 2003 (the current release) is 
a Content Management System which belongs to the Microsoft Office 
family. It
is a collaborative portal application based on the Windows SharePoint 
Services platform, a free component of Windows Server 2003. Cheapest form
is Win 2003 server Small Business Version. I think based on WEBDav 
protocol. You also have to decide on using Windows SharePoint Services
and SharePoint Portal Server 2003, alone or in combination.
See to chose a suitable sharepoint version
http://www.gotsharepoint.com/
or here
http://www.gotsharepoint.com/advisor/default.asp

http://office.microsoft.com/en-ca/FX010909721033.aspx

Content Management Systems
CMSs allow end-users (typically authors) to create new content in the 
form of documents. These document may be entered as plain text or perhaps
with markup to manage document layout and structure. The system then 
uses rules to style the article, which separates the display from the 
content, which has a number of advantages when trying to get many 
articles to conform to a consistent "look and feel". The system then 
adds the articles to a larger collection for publishing. The systems 
also often include some sort of concept of the workflow for the target 
users, which defines how the new content is to be routed around the
system. A good example of a CMS would be a system for managing a 
newspaper. In such a system the reporters type articles into the system, 
which stores
them in a database. Along with the article the system stores attributes, 
including keywords, the date and time of filing, the reporter's name, 
etc. The
system then uses these attributes to find out, given its workflow rules, 
who should proofread the article, approve it for publication, edit it, 
etc. Later the
editors can choose which articles to include (or ignore) in an edition 
of the newspaper, which is then laid out and printed automatically. You 
can also add wikki's blogs forums etc.


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Dan
>
>I don't have the exact cost. However, it is about USD 6000 for the
>server and maybe USD 100 for each seat (CAL). For a large company this
>is peanuts but for our small clients it is prohibitive.
>
>As John says, it is in the Action Pack which we do have, but we haven't
>bothered installing it due to it's very limited potential caused by the
>license fees.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>dwaters at usinternet.com 27-02-2005 17:18:04 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Hi Gustav,
>
>Do you know what the license costs would be?  This could make the
>difference
>for my customer.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
>Brock
>Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:26 AM
>To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
>
>Hi Dan
>
>One of the cons is the high license costs.
>
>I haven't been working with it. 
>Does anyone know of a public Sharepoint server you can connect to and
>do live test?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>dwaters at usinternet.com 26-02-2005 17:08:41 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for
>about 9 months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was
>supposed to
>be the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people from various IT
>functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT
>manager has suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a possible
>alternative
>before he makes a decision on what technology to use.  
>
>So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of what
>Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing -
>
>how have people really used it to their advantage and what should it
>not be
>used for? 
>
>Thanks!
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Feb 27 13:13:36 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:13:36 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
Message-ID: <s2222a08.013@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

Strange. Are you sure there is only one version? Perhaps like for
Exchange, an "Enterprise" version is available too? 

/gustav

>>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 27-02-2005 19:35:26 >>>
Microsoft Office SharePoint Portal Server 2003 (the current release) is

a Content Management System which belongs to the Microsoft Office 
family. It
is a collaborative portal application based on the Windows SharePoint 
Services platform, a free component of Windows Server 2003. Cheapest
form
is Win 2003 server Small Business Version. I think based on WEBDav 
protocol. You also have to decide on using Windows SharePoint Services
and SharePoint Portal Server 2003, alone or in combination.
See to chose a suitable sharepoint version
http://www.gotsharepoint.com/ 
or here
http://www.gotsharepoint.com/advisor/default.asp 

http://office.microsoft.com/en-ca/FX010909721033.aspx 

Content Management Systems
CMSs allow end-users (typically authors) to create new content in the 
form of documents. These document may be entered as plain text or
perhaps
with markup to manage document layout and structure. The system then 
uses rules to style the article, which separates the display from the 
content, which has a number of advantages when trying to get many 
articles to conform to a consistent "look and feel". The system then 
adds the articles to a larger collection for publishing. The systems 
also often include some sort of concept of the workflow for the target

users, which defines how the new content is to be routed around the
system. A good example of a CMS would be a system for managing a 
newspaper. In such a system the reporters type articles into the
system, 
which stores
them in a database. Along with the article the system stores
attributes, 
including keywords, the date and time of filing, the reporter's name, 
etc. The
system then uses these attributes to find out, given its workflow
rules, 
who should proofread the article, approve it for publication, edit it,

etc. Later the
editors can choose which articles to include (or ignore) in an edition

of the newspaper, which is then laid out and printed automatically. You

can also add wikki's blogs forums etc.


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Dan
>
>I don't have the exact cost. However, it is about USD 6000 for the
>server and maybe USD 100 for each seat (CAL). For a large company
this
>is peanuts but for our small clients it is prohibitive.
>
>As John says, it is in the Action Pack which we do have, but we
haven't
>bothered installing it due to it's very limited potential caused by
the
>license fees.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>dwaters at usinternet.com 27-02-2005 17:18:04 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Hi Gustav,
>
>Do you know what the license costs would be?  This could make the
>difference for my customer.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
>Brock
>Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:26 AM
>To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
>
>Hi Dan
>
>One of the cons is the high license costs.
>
>I haven't been working with it. 
>Does anyone know of a public Sharepoint server you can connect to and
>do live test?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>dwaters at usinternet.com 26-02-2005 17:08:41 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for
>about 9 months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was
>supposed to
>be the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people from various IT
>functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT
>manager has suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a possible
>alternative
>before he makes a decision on what technology to use.  
>
>So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of what
>Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing
-
>
>how have people really used it to their advantage and what should it
>not be used for? 
>
>Thanks!
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Feb 27 14:29:51 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:29:51 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
Message-ID: <s2223bdd.015@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty and Dan

Here's link which describes what's "Portal" and what's not:

  http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/Sharepoint.asp


Perhaps the "Portal" is what is charged heavily for while the
"Services" are free?

/gustav

>>> Gustav at cactus.dk 27-02-2005 20:13:36 >>>
Hi Marty

Strange. Are you sure there is only one version? Perhaps like for
Exchange, an "Enterprise" version is available too? 

/gustav

>>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 27-02-2005 19:35:26 >>>
Microsoft Office SharePoint Portal Server 2003 (the current release)
is

a Content Management System which belongs to the Microsoft Office 
family. It is a collaborative portal application based on the Windows
SharePoint 
Services platform, a free component of Windows Server 2003. Cheapest
form is Win 2003 server Small Business Version. I think based on WEBDav

protocol. You also have to decide on using Windows SharePoint Services
and SharePoint Portal Server 2003, alone or in combination.
See to chose a suitable sharepoint version
http://www.gotsharepoint.com/ 
or here
http://www.gotsharepoint.com/advisor/default.asp 

http://office.microsoft.com/en-ca/FX010909721033.aspx 

Content Management Systems
CMSs allow end-users (typically authors) to create new content in the 
form of documents. These document may be entered as plain text or
perhaps
with markup to manage document layout and structure. The system then 
uses rules to style the article, which separates the display from the 
content, which has a number of advantages when trying to get many 
articles to conform to a consistent "look and feel". The system then 
adds the articles to a larger collection for publishing. The systems 
also often include some sort of concept of the workflow for the target

users, which defines how the new content is to be routed around the
system. A good example of a CMS would be a system for managing a 
newspaper. In such a system the reporters type articles into the
system, which stores them in a database. Along with the article the
system stores
attributes, including keywords, the date and time of filing, the
reporter's name, 
etc. The system then uses these attributes to find out, given its
workflow
rules, who should proofread the article, approve it for publication,
edit it,
etc. Later the editors can choose which articles to include (or ignore)
in an edition
of the newspaper, which is then laid out and printed automatically.
You
can also add wikki's blogs forums etc.


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Dan
>
>I don't have the exact cost. However, it is about USD 6000 for the
>server and maybe USD 100 for each seat (CAL). For a large company
this
>is peanuts but for our small clients it is prohibitive.
>
>As John says, it is in the Action Pack which we do have, but we
haven't
>bothered installing it due to it's very limited potential caused by
the
>license fees.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>dwaters at usinternet.com 27-02-2005 17:18:04 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Hi Gustav,
>
>Do you know what the license costs would be?  This could make the
>difference for my customer.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
>Brock
>Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:26 AM
>To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Overview of Sharepoint Server
>
>Hi Dan
>
>One of the cons is the high license costs.
>
>I haven't been working with it. 
>Does anyone know of a public Sharepoint server you can connect to and
>do live test?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>dwaters at usinternet.com 26-02-2005 17:08:41 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I have a customer I've been trying to get a project started with for
>about 9 months now (large company).  Two weeks ago we had what was
>supposed to
>be the last 'approval' meeting with a group of people from various IT
>functions.  Yesterday my customer told me that a higher-level IT
>manager has suggested that he look at Sharepoint Server as a possible
>alternative before he makes a decision on what technology to use.  
>
>So - can someone point me to where I can read a good overview of what
>Sharepoint does?  What are it's pros/cons, etc.  Beyond MS marketing
-
>
>how have people really used it to their advantage and what should it
>not be used for? 
>
>Thanks!
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Sun Feb 27 15:16:43 2005
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:16:43 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
References: <002e01c51877$6c021da0$6c01a8c0@ColbyM6805><001601c518b9$8f5e8580$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru><000701c518be$02fb6590$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru><39cb22f3050223050287e9ff1@mail.gmail.com><002301c519fd$dd0eeb90$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
	<421D1A41.2010303@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000c01c51d11$a5051370$6401a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>

Marty,

I meant mainly UML used for OOP real-life projects design & development not
just UML for database model diagramming - the latter is rather trivial these
days, the first is still state-of-the-art. But the first was investigated a
lot during last ten+ years and there are very useful results IMO.  I did
recently get through "Applying UML and Patterns" by Craig Larman - it shows
that UML is a practical not an academic tool and that when combined with
Software Design Patterns then it becomes even more powerful and more
practical tool...

Shamil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion


> UML. I had a funny a couple of months ago, when I got called into a
> company to check their records rentention periods
> for corporate compliance. I asked for a simple diagram of database
> links. This was a large company and had a couple
> of hundred databases spread around the country. Nobody had one. Don't
> you guys use UML or data models
> No that is passe, I was told. Each DBA seemed to run his own fiefdom. I
> finally got one of the older hands to sketch me out a map on the backs
> of beer coasters.
> Transfered that to Visio then to System Architect. About a week later
> the CIO got a copy of my basic diagrams
> and demanded a fully fleshed out one, he had been looking for one for a
> couple of years.
>
>
> Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>
> >>Developers know that no technology will take them
> >>to the promised land that has been promised many times
> >>
> >>
> >Steve,
> >
> >I believe the sentence above will become false in another 50-100 years :)
> >
> >Not in my lifetime probably :(
> >
> >OOP&D, software design patterns, UML and UML-based software design &
> >development methodologies and practices, agile and extreme programming,
> >managed code (like C# & VB.NET, managed C++),  effective risk, team &
> >project management... - all these are promising, really useful and
therefore
> >solid foundation to get the road to the promised land built somewhere in
not
> >that far from today future....
> >
> >Shamil
> >--
> >Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
> >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> ><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:02 PM
> >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Shamil,
> >>
> >>I visited your home page and was struck by the quote there. It
> >>reminded me of something I'd seen in InfoWorld a few years ago written
> >>by a former programmer:
> >>
> >>"If art is making order out of chaos, then software developers are
artists
> >>at the highest level. Sure, you will hear about advances that promise to
> >>make the life of the software developer easier -- object-oriented
> >>programming, integrated development environments, and now Web
services --
> >>but walk into any development shop and the developers stare intently
into
> >>their monitors, facing conundrum after conundrum, but still fighting the
> >>machine and bending it to their will. Developers know that no technology
> >>will take them to the promised land that has been promised many times,
but
> >>faith in his or her ability to conquer the machine drives the sometimes
> >>Sisyphean task."
> >>
> >>I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer.
> >>
> >>Steve Erbach
> >>Neenah, WI
> >>USA
> >>
> >>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300, Shamil Salakhetdinov
> >><shamil at users.mns.ru> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was hanging
> >>>VS.NET 2003.
> >>>It works OK now after I removed this add-in...
> >>>
> >>>So, I think this wrapper is useful...
> >>>
> >>>Shamil
> >>>--
> >>>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>dba-Tech mailing list
> >>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >dba-Tech mailing list
> >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
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From djkr at msn.com  Sun Feb 27 16:01:08 2005
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:01:08 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] AV product breaches
In-Reply-To: <42220DB8.4070401@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV121A0F7976B3C96005DAC1D2670@phx.gbl>

Just for the record ...

ICL mainframes from the early 70s (that's the 1970s - more than thirty years
ago!) had two things in hardware, both exploited by operating system
software:

1.	EPB (Execute Permission Bit) had to be set to allow code execution.
By default it was not set.

2.	Bounded descriptors.  A pointer wasn't just an address (to the start
of a buffer), but also said how big the buffer was.  Hardware interrupted if
you tried to write past the end.

Results?  NO data executed as code;  NO buffer overruns.  Period.

Great innovations from Intel/MS?  Hmmph!

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MartyConnelly
> Sent: 27 February 2005 18:13
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] AV product breaches
> 
> 
> You can also approach this through hardware, I believe some IBM 
> mainframes have had this for years
> On desktop cpu's this method has several names. Microsoft has several 
> names so does Intel and AMD.
> This has to be checked before implementation in production 
> environments.
> 
> See execute disable bit Win XP SP 2 enables it on 32 bit 
> machines 
> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/infrastructure/security/flash.htm
> 
> One solution is to use Win XP SP2 and brand new Intel or AMD 32 bit 
> chips with Execute Disable bit set
> Right now it is only available in Intel Itanium Servers  and 
> AMD Athalon 
> 64 bit servers. 
> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/infrastructure/security/xdbit.htm
> 
> What it does, is set apart pages of memory to be data only, so code 
> cannot be executed from it.
> 
> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/infrastructure/security/flash.htm
> 
> On CPUs that support execution protection (NX) technology, Windows XP 
> Service Pack 2 marks data pages non-executable. This feature of the 
> underlying hardware prevents execution of code from pages 
> marked in this 
> way. This prevents attackers from overrunning a marked data 
> buffer with 
> code and then executing the code; it would have stopped the 
> Blaster worm 
> dead in its tracks. The only processor families that 
> currently support 
> NX are the 64-bit AMD K8 and Intel Itanium; however, 
> Microsoft expects 
> future 32-bit and 64-bit processors to provide hardware based 
> execution 
> protection.. In addition to supporting NX, Service Pack 2 implements 
> sandboxing. All binaries in the system have been recompiled 
> with buffer 
> security checks enabled to allow the runtime libraries to catch most 
> stack buffer overruns, and "cookies" have been added to the heap to 
> allow the runtime libraries to catch most heap buffer overruns.
> 
> Steve Erbach wrote:
> 
> >John,
> >
> >FWIW, Jerry Pournelle has commented on his web site that all 
> the focus 
> >on C++ over the years is reaping the whirlwind, so to speak. 
> That is, 
> >with a more strongly typed language, there would be no such thing as 
> >buffer overflows. Do you or does anyone else here have a 
> feel for that?
> >
> >Steve Erbach
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:45:06 -0600, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> 
> >wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Just got this from Watchguard:
> >>
> >>Trend Micro AV Ushers Hackers Right In
> >>
> >>* 
> >><http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?
VName=Vuln
>>erabil
>>ity+in+VSAPI+ARJ+parsing+could+allow+Remote+Code+execution> Trend 
>>ity+in+VSAPI+ARJ+parsing+could+allow+Remote+Code+execution> Micro's
>>ARJ Buffer Overflow Alert
>>
>>A similar thin ghappened to Symantec a couple weeks ago:
>>*        <http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/189> ISS X-Force's ARJ
>>Buffer Overflow Alert
>>
>>John B.
>>    
>>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Feb 27 18:30:37 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:30:37 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] AV product breaches
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV121A0F7976B3C96005DAC1D2670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001001c51d2c$b9a2d4f0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL.  What you forget is that the PC started from a FOUR BIT processor
called a 4004 by Intel in 1972 or thereabouts.  

Do you really think that the mainframes with all that fancy stuff just
appeared out of thin air that way?  They started from machines in the
forties, made from relays and later vacuum tubes.  You may rest assured that
those old machines did not have any of that fancy stuff either.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 5:01 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] AV product breaches


Just for the record ...

ICL mainframes from the early 70s (that's the 1970s - more than thirty years
ago!) had two things in hardware, both exploited by operating system
software:

1.	EPB (Execute Permission Bit) had to be set to allow code execution.
By default it was not set.

2.	Bounded descriptors.  A pointer wasn't just an address (to the start
of a buffer), but also said how big the buffer was.  Hardware interrupted if
you tried to write past the end.

Results?  NO data executed as code;  NO buffer overruns.  Period.

Great innovations from Intel/MS?  Hmmph!

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MartyConnelly
> Sent: 27 February 2005 18:13
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] AV product breaches
> 
> 
> You can also approach this through hardware, I believe some IBM
> mainframes have had this for years
> On desktop cpu's this method has several names. Microsoft has several 
> names so does Intel and AMD.
> This has to be checked before implementation in production 
> environments.
> 
> See execute disable bit Win XP SP 2 enables it on 32 bit
> machines 
> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/infrastructure/security/flash.htm
> 
> One solution is to use Win XP SP2 and brand new Intel or AMD 32 bit
> chips with Execute Disable bit set
> Right now it is only available in Intel Itanium Servers  and 
> AMD Athalon 
> 64 bit servers. 
> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/infrastructure/security/xdbit.htm
> 
> What it does, is set apart pages of memory to be data only, so code
> cannot be executed from it.
> 
> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/infrastructure/security/flash.htm
> 
> On CPUs that support execution protection (NX) technology, Windows XP
> Service Pack 2 marks data pages non-executable. This feature of the 
> underlying hardware prevents execution of code from pages 
> marked in this 
> way. This prevents attackers from overrunning a marked data 
> buffer with 
> code and then executing the code; it would have stopped the 
> Blaster worm 
> dead in its tracks. The only processor families that 
> currently support 
> NX are the 64-bit AMD K8 and Intel Itanium; however, 
> Microsoft expects 
> future 32-bit and 64-bit processors to provide hardware based 
> execution 
> protection.. In addition to supporting NX, Service Pack 2 implements 
> sandboxing. All binaries in the system have been recompiled 
> with buffer 
> security checks enabled to allow the runtime libraries to catch most 
> stack buffer overruns, and "cookies" have been added to the heap to 
> allow the runtime libraries to catch most heap buffer overruns.
> 
> Steve Erbach wrote:
> 
> >John,
> >
> >FWIW, Jerry Pournelle has commented on his web site that all
> the focus
> >on C++ over the years is reaping the whirlwind, so to speak.
> That is,
> >with a more strongly typed language, there would be no such thing as
> >buffer overflows. Do you or does anyone else here have a 
> feel for that?
> >
> >Steve Erbach
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:45:06 -0600, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>
> >wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Just got this from Watchguard:
> >>
> >>Trend Micro AV Ushers Hackers Right In
> >>
> >>*
> >><http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?
VName=Vuln
>>erabil
>>ity+in+VSAPI+ARJ+parsing+could+allow+Remote+Code+execution> Trend
>>ity+in+VSAPI+ARJ+parsing+could+allow+Remote+Code+execution> Micro's
>>ARJ Buffer Overflow Alert
>>
>>A similar thin ghappened to Symantec a couple weeks ago:
>>*        <http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/189> ISS X-Force's ARJ
>>Buffer Overflow Alert
>>
>>John B.
>>    
>>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Mon Feb 28 06:39:50 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:39:50 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] cannot access Workgroup
References: <b874372a0502251111692570b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a801c51d92$97fda3a0$0400a8c0@m2533>

since a few days I have this problem with my network (some Win2k and some
WinXP, no WinXP Service Pack 2):
- I cannot access 'Workgroup' on most PCs, on some I can but it shows only
the PC itself, no others.
- I can however search ALL of the other computers and put a shortcut of any
folder into the 'Network' and access anything I want this way.
- I could live with that except for this case:
- - I had to change the location of an Access97 Backend and cannot now
relink it with the table linking manager in Access, because it will not show
me the shortcuts in the network.

- I have turned off Zone Alarm: no effect

- I have not found how to turn off the WinXP firewall, but since there are
two Win2000 PCs on the network and they dont behave better, I doubt that
helps

- cables, hardware, router, switches must be ok, since the connections all
work when I do a Search Computer ?

any idea where to look?

thanks
Lembit



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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Feb 28 10:22:40 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:22:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hash Algorithm
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A153@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hello,

I am looking a code snippet that would take in a string and convert it to a
fixed length encrypted string. As well as a code snippet that would take the
encrypted string and return the original string.
Preferably in VB or vbscript.

I am trying to create a session-less web application but there are times
where information needs to be passed from page to page, like someone's
username, that is sensitive and wouldn't want someone either reading or
sending it themselves. If I can encrypt this string, it would stop casual
users from sending this data themselves by creating a web page with a form
and posting it to the web server.

Thanks,
JR




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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Feb 28 10:47:03 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:47:03 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hash Algorithm
Message-ID: <s2235925.025@cactus.dk>

Hi JR

What you describe is en/decryption, not a hash algorithm which is "one
way" only.
We use the module below for this which runs very fast.

/gustav


Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

' PC1 Cipher 128-bit key
' (c) Alexander Pukall 1991
' Can be used freely even for commercial applications
'
' MS Access 97 version by
' Gustav Brock, Cactus Data ApS
' gustav at cactus.dk 
'
' 2002-03-09. V1.0
'   Initial port from Visual Basic.
' 2002-06-23. V1.1
'   Code clean up and constants added.
'   Redundant code removed.
'   Modified to fully comply with VB datatypes.
'   Modified to not crash for certain passwords.
'   Modified for high speed conversion of long strings ( > 32K).
' 2002-06-24. V1.2
'   Functions added for en/decrypting to/from binary strings.

' Usage:
'   SetPassword(password) sets password prior to en/decryption.
'   GetPassword() retrieves current password.
'   StrEncrypt(DecryptedString) returns encrypted ascii string.
'   StrDecrypt(EncryptedString_ascii) returns decrypted string.
'   StrEncryptBin(DecryptedString) returns encrypted binary string.
'   StrDecryptBin(EncryptedString_binary) returns decrypted string.
'
' Encrypted ascii string is twice the length of the decrypted string.
' Encrypted ascii string contains low ascii chars from a to p only.
' Encrypted binary string is same length as the decrypted string.
' Encrypted binary string may contain any char including Chr(0).
' Password may contain any ascii char including Chr(0).
' Password is maintained in global variable strPC1Password16.

  Private Const clngHexMax  As Long = &H10
  Private Const clngBytMax  As Long = &H100
  ' Maximum value of unsigned Integer.
  Private Const clngIntMax  As Long = &H10000
  ' clngAscMin defines beginning of a 16 letter range from a to p.
  Private Const clngAscMin  As Long = &H61
  
  Public strPC1Password16   As String * clngHexMax
  
  Private x1a0(9)           As Long
  Private cle(17)           As Long
  Private x1a2              As Long
  
  Private lngInt            As Long
  Private lngRes            As Long
  Private lngTmp            As Long
  
  Private ax                As Long
  Private bx                As Long
  Private cx                As Long
  Private dx                As Long
  Private si                As Long
  Private i                 As Long
  Private c                 As Long
  Private d                 As Long
  Private e                 As Long
  
  Private strEncrypted      As String
  Private strDecrypted      As String

Public Function SetPassword(ByRef strPassword As String) As Integer

  Dim intPasswordLength As Integer
  
  ' Remove leading and trailing spaces from password.
  strPassword = Trim(strPassword)

  ' Set global variable and limit password to fixed length of 16
characters.
  strPC1Password16 = strPassword

  ' Find and return net length of password.
  intPasswordLength = Len(strPassword)
  
  SetPassword = intPasswordLength
  
End Function

Public Function GetPassword() As String

  ' Get global variable strPC1Password16.
  GetPassword = RTrim(strPC1Password16)
  
End Function

Public Function StrEncrypt(ByVal strInput As String) As String

  strDecrypted = strInput
  Call Encrypt(False)
  
  StrEncrypt = strEncrypted

End Function

Public Function StrDecrypt(ByVal strInput As String) As String
  
  strEncrypted = strInput
  Call Decrypt(False)
  
  StrDecrypt = strDecrypted

End Function

Public Function StrEncryptBin(ByVal strInput As String) As String

  strDecrypted = strInput
  Call Encrypt(True)
  
  StrEncryptBin = strEncrypted

End Function

Public Function StrDecryptBin(ByVal strInput As String) As String
  
  strEncrypted = strInput
  Call Decrypt(True)
  
  StrDecryptBin = strDecrypted

End Function

Private Sub Encrypt(ByVal booBinary As Boolean)

  Dim strX  As String
  Dim lngC  As Long
  Dim lngD  As Long
  Dim lngM  As Long
  Dim lngN  As Long
  Dim lngX  As Long

  si = 0
  x1a2 = 0
  i = 0
  
  strX = strDecrypted
  lngX = Len(strX)
  strEncrypted = Space(lngX * (2 - Abs(booBinary)))
  
  For lngN = 1 To clngHexMax
    cle(lngN) = Asc(Mid(strPC1Password16, lngN, 1))
  Next lngN
  
  For lngN = 1 To lngX
    c = Asc(Mid(strX, lngN, 1))
  
    ' Calculate lngInt.
    Call Assemble
  
    lngC = lngInt \ clngBytMax
    lngD = lngInt Mod clngBytMax
    
    For lngM = 1 To clngHexMax
      cle(lngM) = cle(lngM) Xor c
    Next lngM
  
    c = c Xor (lngC Xor lngD)
    
    If booBinary = False Then
      ' Build ascii string.
      d = (c \ clngHexMax) Mod clngHexMax
      e = c Mod clngHexMax
      ' clngAscMin + d gives one letter range from a to p for the 4
high bits of c.
      ' clngAscMin + e gives one letter range from a to p for the 4 low
bits of c.
      ' Perform high speed insertion of encrypted character.
      Mid(strEncrypted, (lngN * 2) - 1, 1) = Chr(clngAscMin + d)
      Mid(strEncrypted, (lngN * 2) - 0, 1) = Chr(clngAscMin + e)
    Else
      ' Build binary string.
      ' Perform high speed insertion of encrypted character.
      Mid(strEncrypted, lngN, 1) = Chr(c)
    End If
  Next lngN
  
End Sub

Private Sub Decrypt(ByVal booBinary As Boolean)

  Dim strX  As String
  Dim lngC  As Long
  Dim lngD  As Long
  Dim lngM  As Long
  Dim lngN  As Long
  Dim lngX  As Long

  si = 0
  x1a2 = 0
  i = 0
  
  strX = strEncrypted
  lngX = Len(strX) \ (2 - Abs(booBinary))
  strDecrypted = Space(lngX)
  
  For lngN = 1 To clngHexMax
    cle(lngN) = Asc(Mid(strPC1Password16, lngN, 1))
  Next lngN
  
  For lngN = 1 To lngX
    If booBinary = False Then
      d = Asc(Mid(strX, (lngN * 2) - 1, 1))
      If d >= clngAscMin Then
        ' Transform the letter to the 4 high bits of c.
        d = d - clngAscMin
        If d < clngHexMax Then
          d = d * clngHexMax
        End If
      End If
      e = Asc(Mid(strX, (lngN * 2) - 0, 1))
      If e >= clngAscMin Then
        ' Transform the letter to the 4 low bits of c.
        e = e - clngAscMin
        If e < clngHexMax Then
          c = d + e
        End If
      End If
    Else
      c = Asc(Mid(strX, lngN, 1))
    End If
    
    ' Calculate lngInt.
    Call Assemble
    
    lngC = (lngInt \ clngBytMax) Mod clngBytMax
    lngD = lngInt Mod clngBytMax
    c = c Xor (lngC Xor lngD)
    
    For lngM = 1 To clngHexMax
      cle(lngM) = cle(lngM) Xor c
    Next lngM
    
    ' Perform high speed insertion of decrypted character.
    Mid(strDecrypted, lngN, 1) = Chr(c)
  Next lngN

End Sub

Private Sub Assemble()

  Dim lngM  As Long
  Dim lngN  As Long
  
  x1a0(0) = ((cle(1) * clngBytMax) + cle(2)) Mod clngIntMax
  Call Code
  lngInt = lngRes
  
  For lngM = 1 To (clngHexMax / 2) - 1
    lngN = lngM * 2
    x1a0(lngM) = x1a0(lngM - 1) Xor ((cle(lngN + 1) * clngBytMax) +
cle(lngN + 2))
    Call Code
    lngInt = lngInt Xor lngRes
  Next lngM
  
  i = 0
  
End Sub

Private Sub Code()

  Const clngKeyB  As Long = &H4E35
  Const clngKeyC  As Long = &H15A
  
  dx = (x1a2 + i) Mod clngIntMax
  ax = x1a0(i)
  cx = clngKeyC
  bx = clngKeyB
  
  lngTmp = ax
  ax = si
  si = lngTmp
  
  lngTmp = ax
  ax = dx
  dx = lngTmp
  
  If (ax <> 0) Then
    ax = ((ax Mod clngIntMax) * (bx Mod clngIntMax)) Mod clngIntMax
  End If
  
  lngTmp = ax
  ax = cx
  cx = lngTmp
  
  If (ax <> 0) Then
    ax = ((ax Mod clngIntMax) * (si Mod clngIntMax)) Mod clngIntMax
    cx = (ax + cx) Mod clngIntMax
  End If
  
  lngTmp = ax
  ax = si
  si = lngTmp
  ax = ((ax Mod clngIntMax) * (bx Mod clngIntMax)) Mod clngIntMax
  dx = (cx + dx) Mod clngIntMax
  
  ax = ax + 1
  
  x1a2 = dx
  x1a0(i) = ax
  
  lngRes = ax Xor dx
  i = i + 1

End Sub


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>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 28-02-2005 17:22:40 >>>
Hello,

I am looking a code snippet that would take in a string and convert it
to a
fixed length encrypted string. As well as a code snippet that would
take the
encrypted string and return the original string.
Preferably in VB or vbscript.

I am trying to create a session-less web application but there are
times
where information needs to be passed from page to page, like someone's
username, that is sensitive and wouldn't want someone either reading
or
sending it themselves. If I can encrypt this string, it would stop
casual
users from sending this data themselves by creating a web page with a
form
and posting it to the web server.

Thanks,
JR




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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Feb 28 12:51:33 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:51:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hash Algorithm (en/decryption)
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A154@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the code snippet as well as the terminology correction.
Encryption is not my specialty. :)

I was wondering, what is the password used for?

JR



-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:47 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hash Algorithm

Hi JR

What you describe is en/decryption, not a hash algorithm which is "one
way" only.
We use the module below for this which runs very fast.

/gustav 



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 28 13:23:44 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:23:44 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] cannot access Workgroup
References: <b874372a0502251111692570b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<00a801c51d92$97fda3a0$0400a8c0@m2533>
Message-ID: <42236FC0.50109@shaw.ca>

Maybe look through the forum archives here
http:\\www.windowsbbs.com

Lembit Soobik wrote:

>since a few days I have this problem with my network (some Win2k and some
>WinXP, no WinXP Service Pack 2):
>- I cannot access 'Workgroup' on most PCs, on some I can but it shows only
>the PC itself, no others.
>- I can however search ALL of the other computers and put a shortcut of any
>folder into the 'Network' and access anything I want this way.
>- I could live with that except for this case:
>- - I had to change the location of an Access97 Backend and cannot now
>relink it with the table linking manager in Access, because it will not show
>me the shortcuts in the network.
>
>- I have turned off Zone Alarm: no effect
>
>- I have not found how to turn off the WinXP firewall, but since there are
>two Win2000 PCs on the network and they dont behave better, I doubt that
>helps
>
>- cables, hardware, router, switches must be ok, since the connections all
>work when I do a Search Computer ?
>
>any idea where to look?
>
>thanks
>Lembit
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Feb 28 20:04:51 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:04:51 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] FrontPage List?
Message-ID: <000701c51e03$0e350ca0$123a11d8@danwaters>

Hello to all,

 

I'm trying to learn FrontPage and could use some occasional advice.  Like
why setting up a 'dropdown' menu triggers a pop-up blocker and how I can
avoid this.

 

Does anyone know of a FrontPage list similar to this one?

 

Thanks!

 

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.