[dba-Tech] OT: FridayHumor:Anewpetitiontosupportoutdated(?)technologies...

Shamil Salakhetdinov shamil at users.mns.ru
Mon May 2 10:37:46 CDT 2005


Hi Gustav,

> One classic though - which smells really bad -
> is the small "pilot project
So never ever participate in the "small pilot projects"?
What about Proof Of Concept(POC) kind of projects? - when it's not even
clear is that possible to implement what client wanted to be developed?

> "the big job is canceled by the stupid superiors".
They are always stupid? :)
I mean have you seen/met with some smart high level and not that high level
managers? :)
That was my experience here in Soviet Union and then Russia that there are
very few good managers.
What a surprise was when I have found that there on the West there are also
a few good managers! (This is not I who thought most of them not good
enough - these were native people of these Western countries I worked with
who characterized them this way...)
I have seen two good managers so far and not the high level - what I have
heard/seen of rather high level managers - they were always "stupid
superiors" :)

The (rhetoric) question is how this World is still running with all that
"stupid superiors" making the decisions influencing millions of peoples and
billions of dollars...

...as far as I see here in Russia a capitalistic country is mainly a
chaotically developing  "beast"(what a surprise!?)  - the least state tries
to "touch" it, the best for its self-development...

... the tragedy of the Soviet Union(if we will not take into account
genocide against its own people in 20ies-50ies of the last century) and of
nowadays Russia is that state is trying to have too much bureaucratic
control on capitalistic businesses and in the same time lets them to exploit
to the max their workers and employees. If the state here gave more freedom
to the businesses and in the same time didn't let them to exploit that heavy
their workers everything would have developed here much faster...

...yes, I know it's easy to say "stupid superiors" - and it's not that
easy(?) to be these supermanagers...

Best regards,
Shamil
--
Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT:
FridayHumor:Anewpetitiontosupportoutdated(?)technologies...


> Hi Shamil
>
> It sounds like you have met a lot of these bad guys. And unfortunately
> you mostly have to learn by experience.
>
> One classic though - which smells really bad - is the small "pilot
> project"; if carried out successfully the big project with the fat
> budget is waiting for you. However, all sorts of things must be changed
> or polished because "the pilot project must be perfect and approved
> before we launch the big job". You work like a mad only to find out that
> "the big job is canceled by the stupid superiors".
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> shamil at users.mns.ru 05/02 1:23 pm >>>
> Hello Gustav --
>
> > Some of these companies promise you the World
> Yes, I have "been there seen that..."
>
> <<<
> but the bad ones you just have to learn how
> > they smell so you can step back before real work is delivered.
> >>>
> Do you have some special "detectors" for this their bad smelling? :)
> I mean the cliche words, behavioral patterns they use to postpone
> payment or
> even cancel any payments?
>
> They are usually in a hurry and don't have time for any, even very
> short
> specs - right?
> When the first (prototype) version is delivered they change their mind
> considerably and are trying to force you to redo a lot and again
> without any
> specs, formal docs,  advance payments etc. They delay testing of the
> ready
> software saying their customer didn't pay them yet... They don't have
> acceptance test specs, do not want you to spend time to prepare such
> specs
> in advance and with every test cycle they find new and new "bugs" to
> fix,
> which are in fact change requests etc.etc.
>
> Thank you,
> Best regards,
> Shamil
> --
> Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday Humor:
> Anewpetitiontosupportoutdated(?)technologies...
>
>
> > Hi Shamil
> >
> > Some of these companies promise you the World but when it comes to
> > paying your invoice they try to reduce it, delay the payment - even
> > cancel the payment - by whatever method and excuse they can find or
> by
> > claiming your delivery to not be as agreed.
> > The trick is that you are weak and need your money, thus sooner or
> > later you either give up or are ready to whatever compromise just to
> get
> > some money. I've seen it all. Of course, most companies employ
> decent
> > people and behave correctly, but the bad ones you just have to learn
> how
> > they smell so you can step back before real work is delivered.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > >>> shamil at users.mns.ru 05/02 3:12 am >>>
> >
> > What "worst" should I be prepared for?
>
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