From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Dec 2 21:51:40 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 22:51:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Action pack and X64 Message-ID: <000001c7168e$58432130$e1265b05@m6805> Does anyone know if the action pack contains the X64 versions of 2003 and SQL Server? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Sat Dec 2 22:29:41 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 20:29:41 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Action pack and X64 In-Reply-To: <000001c7168e$58432130$e1265b05@m6805> Message-ID: <008c01c71693$a6d1cf40$6401a8c0@HAL9005> The only x64 disc I got was Windows XP Pro. But I let my subscription lapse. So it may be in the newer package. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 7:52 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Action pack and X64 Does anyone know if the action pack contains the X64 versions of 2003 and SQL Server? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 9:39 PM From djkr at msn.com Sun Dec 3 04:12:37 2006 From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:12:37 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Action pack and X64 In-Reply-To: <008c01c71693$a6d1cf40$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: That's the only one explicitly mentioned in the list: https://partner.microsoft.com/40013779 I don't have Action Pack. I'd ask my son-in-law, but they're out on survey for a week or two. John -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: 03 December 2006 04:30 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Action pack and X64 The only x64 disc I got was Windows XP Pro. But I let my subscription lapse. So it may be in the newer package. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 7:52 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Action pack and X64 Does anyone know if the action pack contains the X64 versions of 2003 and SQL Server? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 9:39 PM _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Dec 5 14:06:35 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 14:06:35 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS Monitoring software Message-ID: <1fd801c718a8$ddab9390$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I'm looking for UPS monitoring software which will work across a network. I need it to monitor another machine which has a UPS on it and shutdown the hosting PC when the other machine detects a power outage. I have one big UPS where the main PC is and it communicates with the PC. the other PCs are plugged into UPSs that don't communicate with the PC and would like them all to shut down when the big one tells them to. They're all APC unit and APC PowerChute Business edition recognizes them but they apparently have their software crippled to not allow this with lower cost units. Their tech support said it won't work with those lower cost units. Measly $200 UPSs - what are they good for?! ;o) Any ideas? From jeff.developer at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 12:05:28 2006 From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff Barrows) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:05:28 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dialup and Internet Explorer Message-ID: <2dad32080612061005o37c9d08dl89dc14803dacc62c@mail.gmail.com> I hope that someone o there can help me. I have a friend on dialup, refuses to upgrade to dsl or cable, with a problem. He can make a connection with his dialup modem, but he cannot open ANY web pages with IE or Netscape. If I connect his pc to my DSL connection, I have no problem opening IE and surfing the web. Cannot seem to find anything wrong with the modem, just will not display anything. Nothing was added or removed from the system before this started. He has since rebuilt the pc and continues to have the same problem. Anyone have any ideas on what to do or where to go for help? TIA Jeff Barrows From bgeldart at verizon.net Wed Dec 6 12:26:21 2006 From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:26:21 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dialup and Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <2dad32080612061005o37c9d08dl89dc14803dacc62c@mail.gmail.co m> References: <2dad32080612061005o37c9d08dl89dc14803dacc62c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20061206132415.03e394c0@incoming.verizon.net> Make sure there are no hidden windows waiting for a response (cookie alerts, etc). Every once in a while my wife will call for help for non-responsive programs, and I've found that to be a common problem. Bob At 12/6/2006 01:05 PM, you wrote: >I hope that someone o there can help me. I have a friend on dialup, refuses >to upgrade to dsl or cable, with a problem. He can make a connection with >his dialup modem, but he cannot open ANY web pages with IE or Netscape. If >I connect his pc to my DSL connection, I have no problem opening IE and >surfing the web. Cannot seem to find anything wrong with the modem, just >will not display anything. Nothing was added or removed from the system >before this started. He has since rebuilt the pc and continues to have the >same problem. > >Anyone have any ideas on what to do or where to go for help? > >TIA > >Jeff Barrows >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com Bob Geldart BGeldart at verizon.net Maynard, MA From john at winhaven.net Wed Dec 6 13:55:37 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:55:37 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dialup and Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20061206132415.03e394c0@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <073f01c71970$8059d170$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Jeff, You also want to momentarily disable any real time scanners such as anti-virus, anti-spyware and firewalls. Also, if the driver was updated from the Windows Update site you may want to uninstall it and install the original (manufacturers) drivers. I have had issues in the past with WU drivers. Check out this site for assistance: http://driveragent.com/?PHPSESSID=13da5f51e8b00acd2a95b35c5cb2b65f Also, you may to scan the PC for problems/issues. Here's a pretty good site for that: http://www.pcpitstop.com/default.asp HTH JohnB. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Geldart Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:26 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dialup and Internet Explorer Make sure there are no hidden windows waiting for a response (cookie alerts, etc). Every once in a while my wife will call for help for non-responsive programs, and I've found that to be a common problem. Bob At 12/6/2006 01:05 PM, you wrote: >I hope that someone o there can help me. I have a friend on dialup, >refuses to upgrade to dsl or cable, with a problem. He can make a >connection with his dialup modem, but he cannot open ANY web pages with >IE or Netscape. If I connect his pc to my DSL connection, I have no >problem opening IE and surfing the web. Cannot seem to find anything >wrong with the modem, just will not display anything. Nothing was >added or removed from the system before this started. He has since >rebuilt the pc and continues to have the same problem. > >Anyone have any ideas on what to do or where to go for help? > >TIA > >Jeff Barrows >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com Bob Geldart BGeldart at verizon.net Maynard, MA _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Wed Dec 6 17:27:53 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:27:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch Message-ID: <20061206232753.80667.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> How do I put a program on the Quick Launch bar? Can I do it with an Access app or does it have to be an EXE? Thx, Arthur From kp at sdsonline.net Wed Dec 6 17:32:20 2006 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:32:20 +1100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch References: <20061206232753.80667.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000201c7198e$dd4c8b20$6401a8c0@office> Just create a shortcut to the app, then drag that to the Quick Launch toolbar. You can also modify the properties from there with a r-click, and change the icon etc. I have an mdb here on Quick Launch. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: artful at rogers.com To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:27 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch How do I put a program on the Quick Launch bar? Can I do it with an Access app or does it have to be an EXE? Thx, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Wed Dec 6 17:39:22 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 23:39:22 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch In-Reply-To: <20061206232753.80667.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c7198f$c2167d60$0200a8c0@jt2> Do you mean the one on the task bar? The "quick and dirty" way is to make a shortcut to the program, file or command you want to run, then drag that onto the quick launch bar. It's saved in a folder somewhere in your current user settings - C:\Documents and Settings\Jon Tydda\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch (That's for XP Pro, might be different for 2K). Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com Sent: 06 December 2006 23:28 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch How do I put a program on the Quick Launch bar? Can I do it with an Access app or does it have to be an EXE? Thx, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Dec 6 17:39:34 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:39:34 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch In-Reply-To: <20061206232753.80667.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <088801c7198f$c96d4df0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> AFAIK anything you drag and drop there will work - I tried it with an exe and an mdb just now and they both worked. Of course the better way to do it is to make a shortcut and drag that (or copy and paste it) to the quicklaunch. If you wanted to programmatically add something, it would have to reference: C:\Documents and Settings\{UserName}\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:28 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch How do I put a program on the Quick Launch bar? Can I do it with an Access app or does it have to be an EXE? Thx, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Wed Dec 6 17:46:13 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:46:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch Message-ID: <20061206234613.78551.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thanks! ----- Original Message ---- From: John Bartow To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch AFAIK anything you drag and drop there will work - I tried it with an exe and an mdb just now and they both worked. Of course the better way to do it is to make a shortcut and drag that (or copy and paste it) to the quicklaunch. If you wanted to programmatically add something, it would have to reference: C:\Documents and Settings\{UserName}\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:28 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch How do I put a program on the Quick Launch bar? Can I do it with an Access app or does it have to be an EXE? Thx, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Wed Dec 6 17:46:28 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:46:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch Message-ID: <20061206234628.17920.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thanks! ----- Original Message ---- From: Jon Tydda To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:39:22 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch Do you mean the one on the task bar? The "quick and dirty" way is to make a shortcut to the program, file or command you want to run, then drag that onto the quick launch bar. It's saved in a folder somewhere in your current user settings - C:\Documents and Settings\Jon Tydda\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch (That's for XP Pro, might be different for 2K). Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com Sent: 06 December 2006 23:28 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Launch How do I put a program on the Quick Launch bar? Can I do it with an Access app or does it have to be an EXE? Thx, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Dec 7 10:35:17 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:35:17 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer Message-ID: <004a01c71a1d$ae064a10$6401a8c0@HAL9005> So along with my new Dell package they gave me a printer. On the packing slip it said Dell 725 but they sent me an 810 All-In-One. So I get a scanner/copier in the bargain. It has one tank :-( and prints black by somehow combining the three colors. OTOH the tank capacity is extremely small. So the cost per page is not.economical. But I scan to PowerPoint and print on another printer so, no biggie. It was still free. It comes with a 90 day warranty. So it failed on day 92. No one is surprised by this are they? Long story short, I raised a fuss with Dell and they gave me $75 coupon to use as I see fit and I think I'll put it towards their 1110 laser printers - maybe the refurbished job. But I digress. The problem with the AIO is that I get this message "Unsupported cartridge type" and of course, it won't print, head clean, or anything until I put in a supported cartridge type. Thing is, it's the same cartridge that was in there from day one (95 days ago) and I haven't printed 20 pages with it. So I'm wondering if it's the cartridge which failed or the print head. If cartridge, I can replace it for the low, low price of about $30 (pbbbttt), but I don't want to spend money for the cart and find out the printer still won't work. The whole printer can't cost more than about nineteen cents to put together and they sell if for the why-pay-less price of $69. So what's your opinion? Bad cartridge or bad printer? MTIA and Regards, Rocky From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Thu Dec 7 10:42:53 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:42:53 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C1B33@ALCEXLG1> My gut feeling is that it's the cartridge, but experience has told me that if you spend $30 on a cartridge, it'll be the printer that's bust, and no-one's going to accept an opened printer cartridge as a return... All our laser printers at work are on a maintenance agreement, when they go wrong, someone else fixes them for me. I love it. The colour inkjets are "disposable". If I can't fix it in half an hour, my instructions are to strip them for useful parts, then bin them and buy new ones. Your Dell printer sounds like it's a lot cheaper than the inkjets we buy, so as it was free, I'd probably prod about at it for ten minutes or so, then chuck it personally... You might ask your friends if any of them have a dell cartridge you can try... Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:35 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer So along with my new Dell package they gave me a printer. On the packing slip it said Dell 725 but they sent me an 810 All-In-One. So I get a scanner/copier in the bargain. It has one tank :-( and prints black by somehow combining the three colors. OTOH the tank capacity is extremely small. So the cost per page is not.economical. But I scan to PowerPoint and print on another printer so, no biggie. It was still free. It comes with a 90 day warranty. So it failed on day 92. No one is surprised by this are they? Long story short, I raised a fuss with Dell and they gave me $75 coupon to use as I see fit and I think I'll put it towards their 1110 laser printers - maybe the refurbished job. But I digress. The problem with the AIO is that I get this message "Unsupported cartridge type" and of course, it won't print, head clean, or anything until I put in a supported cartridge type. Thing is, it's the same cartridge that was in there from day one (95 days ago) and I haven't printed 20 pages with it. So I'm wondering if it's the cartridge which failed or the print head. If cartridge, I can replace it for the low, low price of about $30 (pbbbttt), but I don't want to spend money for the cart and find out the printer still won't work. The whole printer can't cost more than about nineteen cents to put together and they sell if for the why-pay-less price of $69. So what's your opinion? Bad cartridge or bad printer? MTIA and Regards, Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 11:45:06 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:45:06 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer In-Reply-To: <004a01c71a1d$ae064a10$6401a8c0@HAL9005> References: <004a01c71a1d$ae064a10$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: It is my opinion that you pretty much get what you pay for with printers. I got a free dell printer with a laptop I bought a year ago and have yet to open the box. I would have selected NONE in the printer option box if they had let me rather then them even shipping me the thing. Let me look at my Dell Order history and see what model it is......Mine was a Dell 720 Color printer. Been sitting in my office closet since August 28, 2005. I would cut your losses and abandon it. GK On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > So along with my new Dell package they gave me a printer. On the packing > slip it said Dell 725 but they sent me an 810 All-In-One. So I get a > scanner/copier in the bargain. It has one tank :-( and prints black by > somehow combining the three colors. OTOH the tank capacity is extremely > small. So the cost per page is not.economical. But I scan to PowerPoint and > print on another printer so, no biggie. It was still free. > > > > It comes with a 90 day warranty. So it failed on day 92. No one is > surprised by this are they? Long story short, I raised a fuss with Dell and > they gave me $75 coupon to use as I see fit and I think I'll put it towards > their 1110 laser printers - maybe the refurbished job. But I digress. > > > > The problem with the AIO is that I get this message "Unsupported cartridge > type" and of course, it won't print, head clean, or anything until I put in > a supported cartridge type. > > > > Thing is, it's the same cartridge that was in there from day one (95 days > ago) and I haven't printed 20 pages with it. So I'm wondering if it's the > cartridge which failed or the print head. If cartridge, I can replace it > for the low, low price of about $30 (pbbbttt), but I don't want to spend > money for the cart and find out the printer still won't work. The whole > printer can't cost more than about nineteen cents to put together and they > sell if for the why-pay-less price of $69. > > > > So what's your opinion? Bad cartridge or bad printer? > > > > MTIA and Regards, > > > > Rocky > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Dec 7 11:54:12 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:54:12 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <009001c71a28$b48e57f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Probably right. Although it's still a scanner. I've got a Canon Pixma ip1600 in the garage. I got two of them free, one with each of the 19" flat screens I got at Fry's. I guess they're hoping I buy a lot of cartridges. It's still boxed. Never used. Except I took the cartridge out of it for the other one. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:45 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer It is my opinion that you pretty much get what you pay for with printers. I got a free dell printer with a laptop I bought a year ago and have yet to open the box. I would have selected NONE in the printer option box if they had let me rather then them even shipping me the thing. Let me look at my Dell Order history and see what model it is......Mine was a Dell 720 Color printer. Been sitting in my office closet since August 28, 2005. I would cut your losses and abandon it. GK On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > So along with my new Dell package they gave me a printer. On the packing > slip it said Dell 725 but they sent me an 810 All-In-One. So I get a > scanner/copier in the bargain. It has one tank :-( and prints black by > somehow combining the three colors. OTOH the tank capacity is extremely > small. So the cost per page is not.economical. But I scan to PowerPoint and > print on another printer so, no biggie. It was still free. > > > > It comes with a 90 day warranty. So it failed on day 92. No one is > surprised by this are they? Long story short, I raised a fuss with Dell and > they gave me $75 coupon to use as I see fit and I think I'll put it towards > their 1110 laser printers - maybe the refurbished job. But I digress. > > > > The problem with the AIO is that I get this message "Unsupported cartridge > type" and of course, it won't print, head clean, or anything until I put in > a supported cartridge type. > > > > Thing is, it's the same cartridge that was in there from day one (95 days > ago) and I haven't printed 20 pages with it. So I'm wondering if it's the > cartridge which failed or the print head. If cartridge, I can replace it > for the low, low price of about $30 (pbbbttt), but I don't want to spend > money for the cart and find out the printer still won't work. The whole > printer can't cost more than about nineteen cents to put together and they > sell if for the why-pay-less price of $69. > > > > So what's your opinion? Bad cartridge or bad printer? > > > > MTIA and Regards, > > > > Rocky > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 4:07 PM From john at winhaven.net Thu Dec 7 11:54:37 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:54:37 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer In-Reply-To: <004a01c71a1d$ae064a10$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <027301c71a28$c379c560$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> IMO low end junk not worth the time to waste trying to get it to work. Give it to someone you don't like :o) From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 11:59:45 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:59:45 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer In-Reply-To: <009001c71a28$b48e57f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> References: <009001c71a28$b48e57f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Wow. And you are about to get another free Canon printer for buying the new camera? I think you need to start looking at free printers as a NEGATIVE instead of a positive attribute of a deal. My view of getting free stuff that I don't realy want is that I already have TOO MUCH STUFF in my house and I really shouldn't be bringing in more unless it is something I really really need. GK On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Probably right. Although it's still a scanner. I've got a Canon Pixma > ip1600 in the garage. I got two of them free, one with each of the 19" flat > screens I got at Fry's. I guess they're hoping I buy a lot of cartridges. > > It's still boxed. Never used. Except I took the cartridge out of it for > the other one. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:45 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer > > It is my opinion that you pretty much get what you pay for with > printers. I got a free dell printer with a laptop I bought a year ago > and have yet to open the box. I would have selected NONE in the > printer option box if they had let me rather then them even shipping > me the thing. Let me look at my Dell Order history and see what model > it is......Mine was a Dell 720 Color printer. Been sitting in my > office closet since August 28, 2005. > > I would cut your losses and abandon it. > > GK > > On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > > So along with my new Dell package they gave me a printer. On the packing > > slip it said Dell 725 but they sent me an 810 All-In-One. So I get a > > scanner/copier in the bargain. It has one tank :-( and prints black by > > somehow combining the three colors. OTOH the tank capacity is extremely > > small. So the cost per page is not.economical. But I scan to PowerPoint > and > > print on another printer so, no biggie. It was still free. > > > > > > > > It comes with a 90 day warranty. So it failed on day 92. No one is > > surprised by this are they? Long story short, I raised a fuss with Dell > and > > they gave me $75 coupon to use as I see fit and I think I'll put it > towards > > their 1110 laser printers - maybe the refurbished job. But I digress. > > > > > > > > The problem with the AIO is that I get this message "Unsupported cartridge > > type" and of course, it won't print, head clean, or anything until I put > in > > a supported cartridge type. > > > > > > > > Thing is, it's the same cartridge that was in there from day one (95 days > > ago) and I haven't printed 20 pages with it. So I'm wondering if it's the > > cartridge which failed or the print head. If cartridge, I can replace it > > for the low, low price of about $30 (pbbbttt), but I don't want to spend > > money for the cart and find out the printer still won't work. The whole > > printer can't cost more than about nineteen cents to put together and they > > sell if for the why-pay-less price of $69. > > > > > > > > So what's your opinion? Bad cartridge or bad printer? > > > > > > > > MTIA and Regards, > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 > 4:07 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Dec 7 12:17:11 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:17:11 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <009401c71a2b$ea300540$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Agreed. I looked on line and found the camera for $180. And I looked at the specs on the printer and they were pretty dismal. Not a bad printer but like all of the low end printers they just seem like an vehicle to sell ink cartridges. But Dell gave me this $75 coupon so I think I'll get the laser printer. Had one for years (NEC Superscript) and loved it. We don't have a laser right now. Just 6 ink jets (including the one in the garage and the hosed AIO). I do very little color. And that $75 is burning a hole in my pocket. :o) Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:00 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer Wow. And you are about to get another free Canon printer for buying the new camera? I think you need to start looking at free printers as a NEGATIVE instead of a positive attribute of a deal. My view of getting free stuff that I don't realy want is that I already have TOO MUCH STUFF in my house and I really shouldn't be bringing in more unless it is something I really really need. GK On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Probably right. Although it's still a scanner. I've got a Canon Pixma > ip1600 in the garage. I got two of them free, one with each of the 19" flat > screens I got at Fry's. I guess they're hoping I buy a lot of cartridges. > > It's still boxed. Never used. Except I took the cartridge out of it for > the other one. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:45 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer > > It is my opinion that you pretty much get what you pay for with > printers. I got a free dell printer with a laptop I bought a year ago > and have yet to open the box. I would have selected NONE in the > printer option box if they had let me rather then them even shipping > me the thing. Let me look at my Dell Order history and see what model > it is......Mine was a Dell 720 Color printer. Been sitting in my > office closet since August 28, 2005. > > I would cut your losses and abandon it. > > GK > > On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > > So along with my new Dell package they gave me a printer. On the packing > > slip it said Dell 725 but they sent me an 810 All-In-One. So I get a > > scanner/copier in the bargain. It has one tank :-( and prints black by > > somehow combining the three colors. OTOH the tank capacity is extremely > > small. So the cost per page is not.economical. But I scan to PowerPoint > and > > print on another printer so, no biggie. It was still free. > > > > > > > > It comes with a 90 day warranty. So it failed on day 92. No one is > > surprised by this are they? Long story short, I raised a fuss with Dell > and > > they gave me $75 coupon to use as I see fit and I think I'll put it > towards > > their 1110 laser printers - maybe the refurbished job. But I digress. > > > > > > > > The problem with the AIO is that I get this message "Unsupported cartridge > > type" and of course, it won't print, head clean, or anything until I put > in > > a supported cartridge type. > > > > > > > > Thing is, it's the same cartridge that was in there from day one (95 days > > ago) and I haven't printed 20 pages with it. So I'm wondering if it's the > > cartridge which failed or the print head. If cartridge, I can replace it > > for the low, low price of about $30 (pbbbttt), but I don't want to spend > > money for the cart and find out the printer still won't work. The whole > > printer can't cost more than about nineteen cents to put together and they > > sell if for the why-pay-less price of $69. > > > > > > > > So what's your opinion? Bad cartridge or bad printer? > > > > > > > > MTIA and Regards, > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 > 4:07 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 4:07 PM From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 12:21:02 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:21:02 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer In-Reply-To: <009401c71a2b$ea300540$6401a8c0@HAL9005> References: <009401c71a2b$ea300540$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Dell has the Powershot A540 for $199.95. You could use the coupon there..... http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A0620517 GK On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Agreed. I looked on line and found the camera for $180. And I looked at > the specs on the printer and they were pretty dismal. Not a bad printer but > like all of the low end printers they just seem like an vehicle to sell ink > cartridges. > > But Dell gave me this $75 coupon so I think I'll get the laser printer. Had > one for years (NEC Superscript) and loved it. We don't have a laser right > now. Just 6 ink jets (including the one in the garage and the hosed AIO). I > do very little color. > > And that $75 is burning a hole in my pocket. :o) > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:00 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer > > Wow. And you are about to get another free Canon printer for buying > the new camera? I think you need to start looking at free printers as > a NEGATIVE instead of a positive attribute of a deal. My view of > getting free stuff that I don't realy want is that I already have TOO > MUCH STUFF in my house and I really shouldn't be bringing in more > unless it is something I really really need. > > GK > > On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > > Probably right. Although it's still a scanner. I've got a Canon Pixma > > ip1600 in the garage. I got two of them free, one with each of the 19" > flat > > screens I got at Fry's. I guess they're hoping I buy a lot of cartridges. > > > > It's still boxed. Never used. Except I took the cartridge out of it for > > the other one. > > > > Rocky > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:45 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer > > > > It is my opinion that you pretty much get what you pay for with > > printers. I got a free dell printer with a laptop I bought a year ago > > and have yet to open the box. I would have selected NONE in the > > printer option box if they had let me rather then them even shipping > > me the thing. Let me look at my Dell Order history and see what model > > it is......Mine was a Dell 720 Color printer. Been sitting in my > > office closet since August 28, 2005. > > > > I would cut your losses and abandon it. > > > > GK > > > > On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > > > So along with my new Dell package they gave me a printer. On the > packing > > > slip it said Dell 725 but they sent me an 810 All-In-One. So I get a > > > scanner/copier in the bargain. It has one tank :-( and prints black by > > > somehow combining the three colors. OTOH the tank capacity is extremely > > > small. So the cost per page is not.economical. But I scan to PowerPoint > > and > > > print on another printer so, no biggie. It was still free. > > > > > > > > > > > > It comes with a 90 day warranty. So it failed on day 92. No one is > > > surprised by this are they? Long story short, I raised a fuss with Dell > > and > > > they gave me $75 coupon to use as I see fit and I think I'll put it > > towards > > > their 1110 laser printers - maybe the refurbished job. But I digress. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with the AIO is that I get this message "Unsupported > cartridge > > > type" and of course, it won't print, head clean, or anything until I put > > in > > > a supported cartridge type. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thing is, it's the same cartridge that was in there from day one (95 > days > > > ago) and I haven't printed 20 pages with it. So I'm wondering if it's > the > > > cartridge which failed or the print head. If cartridge, I can replace > it > > > for the low, low price of about $30 (pbbbttt), but I don't want to spend > > > money for the cart and find out the printer still won't work. The whole > > > printer can't cost more than about nineteen cents to put together and > they > > > sell if for the why-pay-less price of $69. > > > > > > > > > > > > So what's your opinion? Bad cartridge or bad printer? > > > > > > > > > > > > MTIA and Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kjos > > garykjos at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 > > 4:07 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 > 4:07 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Dec 7 12:45:20 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:45:20 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <009b01c71a2f$d92ba610$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Now THERE'S an idea! Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:21 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer Dell has the Powershot A540 for $199.95. You could use the coupon there..... http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19& sku=A0620517 GK On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Agreed. I looked on line and found the camera for $180. And I looked at > the specs on the printer and they were pretty dismal. Not a bad printer but > like all of the low end printers they just seem like an vehicle to sell ink > cartridges. > > But Dell gave me this $75 coupon so I think I'll get the laser printer. Had > one for years (NEC Superscript) and loved it. We don't have a laser right > now. Just 6 ink jets (including the one in the garage and the hosed AIO). I > do very little color. > > And that $75 is burning a hole in my pocket. :o) > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:00 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer > > Wow. And you are about to get another free Canon printer for buying > the new camera? I think you need to start looking at free printers as > a NEGATIVE instead of a positive attribute of a deal. My view of > getting free stuff that I don't realy want is that I already have TOO > MUCH STUFF in my house and I really shouldn't be bringing in more > unless it is something I really really need. > > GK > > On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > > Probably right. Although it's still a scanner. I've got a Canon Pixma > > ip1600 in the garage. I got two of them free, one with each of the 19" > flat > > screens I got at Fry's. I guess they're hoping I buy a lot of cartridges. > > > > It's still boxed. Never used. Except I took the cartridge out of it for > > the other one. > > > > Rocky > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:45 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My New Piece of Cra...I mean, Printer > > > > It is my opinion that you pretty much get what you pay for with > > printers. I got a free dell printer with a laptop I bought a year ago > > and have yet to open the box. I would have selected NONE in the > > printer option box if they had let me rather then them even shipping > > me the thing. Let me look at my Dell Order history and see what model > > it is......Mine was a Dell 720 Color printer. Been sitting in my > > office closet since August 28, 2005. > > > > I would cut your losses and abandon it. > > > > GK > > > > On 12/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > > > So along with my new Dell package they gave me a printer. On the > packing > > > slip it said Dell 725 but they sent me an 810 All-In-One. So I get a > > > scanner/copier in the bargain. It has one tank :-( and prints black by > > > somehow combining the three colors. OTOH the tank capacity is extremely > > > small. So the cost per page is not.economical. But I scan to PowerPoint > > and > > > print on another printer so, no biggie. It was still free. > > > > > > > > > > > > It comes with a 90 day warranty. So it failed on day 92. No one is > > > surprised by this are they? Long story short, I raised a fuss with Dell > > and > > > they gave me $75 coupon to use as I see fit and I think I'll put it > > towards > > > their 1110 laser printers - maybe the refurbished job. But I digress. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with the AIO is that I get this message "Unsupported > cartridge > > > type" and of course, it won't print, head clean, or anything until I put > > in > > > a supported cartridge type. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thing is, it's the same cartridge that was in there from day one (95 > days > > > ago) and I haven't printed 20 pages with it. So I'm wondering if it's > the > > > cartridge which failed or the print head. If cartridge, I can replace > it > > > for the low, low price of about $30 (pbbbttt), but I don't want to spend > > > money for the cart and find out the printer still won't work. The whole > > > printer can't cost more than about nineteen cents to put together and > they > > > sell if for the why-pay-less price of $69. > > > > > > > > > > > > So what's your opinion? Bad cartridge or bad printer? > > > > > > > > > > > > MTIA and Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kjos > > garykjos at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 > > 4:07 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 > 4:07 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 4:07 PM From artful at rogers.com Thu Dec 7 23:26:38 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 21:26:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Binder Message-ID: <20061208052638.46612.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Does anyone here know this technology? I confess that I know next to nothing. From what I can gather, it enables you to stitch together numerous files into a single document, then produce it as if it were one single document. Perhaps I'm wrong, but here's what I want it to do: 1. 20 Word documents 2. Glue them together. 3. Get one TOC that integrates them all, deigns the page numbers, etc. 4. I revise Chapter 4 and Save and the new document reflects the changes, repaginates, etc. Am I asking too much? Do I have to build my document out of 255 separate Word files using Copy/Paste, or can Binder do this for me? TIA, Arthur From artful at rogers.com Fri Dec 8 00:01:29 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:01:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Size Matters Message-ID: <20061208060129.29825.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> LaCie is offering huge memory sticks (8GB) for $99.99. See insider at lacie.com. Arthur From john at winhaven.net Fri Dec 8 00:26:38 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 00:26:38 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Binder In-Reply-To: <20061208052638.46612.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <020201c71a91$d57a7160$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Hi Arthur, I have never had much success with binder. I don't think it is supported anymore. Last I tried it was with O97. interestingly, Lotus SmartSuite had the similar functionality built into WordPro. I use Acrobat to combine files types but I'm not sure it would fit what you're doing. From john at winhaven.net Fri Dec 8 00:26:38 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 00:26:38 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Size Matters In-Reply-To: <20061208060129.29825.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <020101c71a91$d5080080$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Cool. Thanks for the heads up! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com LaCie is offering huge memory sticks (8GB) for $99.99. See insider at lacie.com. From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Fri Dec 8 03:00:10 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:00:10 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Binder Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C1B34@ALCEXLG1> Yes, that's exactly what it's for. We used to use it for our SOP documents. It can handle a fair number of fairly big files. I've got it in Office 2k, but I have the premium version installed here, which is $1200 worth of software, so probably not that many people will be using it... I don't know if it's in Professional, it's definitely not in Standard or Small Business edition. We don't use it any more because of the licensing issues, and it made documents that were in the order of 200mb, which is a little unwieldy for people to open on older hardware. Jon -----Original Message----- From: artful at rogers.com [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:27 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Binder Does anyone here know this technology? I confess that I know next to nothing. From what I can gather, it enables you to stitch together numerous files into a single document, then produce it as if it were one single document. Perhaps I'm wrong, but here's what I want it to do: 1. 20 Word documents 2. Glue them together. 3. Get one TOC that integrates them all, deigns the page numbers, etc. 4. I revise Chapter 4 and Save and the new document reflects the changes, repaginates, etc. Am I asking too much? Do I have to build my document out of 255 separate Word files using Copy/Paste, or can Binder do this for me? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From artful at rogers.com Fri Dec 8 07:39:10 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 05:39:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove all traces of Office 2007 beta Message-ID: <20061208133910.83177.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I thought that I had successfully removed the O2k7 beta from my main squeeze, but apparently not. I downloaded the 60-day trial version and when I try to run it, I'm told that I must remove the beta first. I thought I did this already. I checked and double-checked, and even rebooted, but I still get the same message. Is there a "completely remove" pattern or set of instructions? TIA, Arthur From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Fri Dec 8 19:19:28 2006 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:19:28 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove all traces of Office 2007 beta In-Reply-To: <20061208133910.83177.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20061208133910.83177.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <457A0F20.8020805@shaw.ca> Somewhere I have seen odd uninstall instructions for Beta 1 of Office 2007 maybe on woodys watch. http://news.office-watch.com/zd.aspx?9 This procedure might require a restore or registry backup How to uninstall an application when it does not appear in Add/Remove Programs http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2005/10/30/487096.aspx The MS Version of above Description of the Windows Installer CleanUp Utility http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;290301 the Office 2007 final build number is 12.0.4518.1014 artful at rogers.com wrote: >I thought that I had successfully removed the O2k7 beta from my main squeeze, but apparently not. I downloaded the 60-day trial version and when I try to run it, I'm told that I must remove the beta first. I thought I did this already. I checked and double-checked, and even rebooted, but I still get the same message. > >Is there a "completely remove" pattern or set of instructions? > >TIA, >Arthur >__ > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From Jeff at outbaktech.com Sat Dec 9 17:12:07 2006 From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 17:12:07 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Message-ID: Anyone want to recommend their favorite Dual Monitor Video Card? I am looking for 1 card to run both monitors. Jeff Barrows MCP, MCAD, MCSD Outbak Technologies, LLC Racine, WI Phone: (262) 634-0653 jeff at outbaktech.com From bill_Patten at earthlink.net Sat Dec 9 17:41:52 2006 From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 15:41:52 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards References: Message-ID: <03ca01c71beb$9ac5b060$0202fea9@BPCS> Jeff, I have a Matrox Millennium G450 Dual Head card that has worked fine, however it will not display Vista Aero. For that you need 3D graphics and more memory. I'd look for a Vista compatible if I was replacing my cards. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Barrows" To: "Dba-Tech" ; "dba-OT" Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:12 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Anyone want to recommend their favorite Dual Monitor Video Card? I am looking for 1 card to run both monitors. Jeff Barrows MCP, MCAD, MCSD Outbak Technologies, LLC Racine, WI Phone: (262) 634-0653 jeff at outbaktech.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Dec 9 19:01:18 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 20:01:18 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards In-Reply-To: <03ca01c71beb$9ac5b060$0202fea9@BPCS> Message-ID: <003401c71bf6$b3a07290$657aa8c0@m6805> Isn't it possible to turn the 3d stuff off though? I mean who needs it? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:42 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Jeff, I have a Matrox Millennium G450 Dual Head card that has worked fine, however it will not display Vista Aero. For that you need 3D graphics and more memory. I'd look for a Vista compatible if I was replacing my cards. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Barrows" To: "Dba-Tech" ; "dba-OT" Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:12 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Anyone want to recommend their favorite Dual Monitor Video Card? I am looking for 1 card to run both monitors. Jeff Barrows MCP, MCAD, MCSD Outbak Technologies, LLC Racine, WI Phone: (262) 634-0653 jeff at outbaktech.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_Patten at earthlink.net Sat Dec 9 19:38:50 2006 From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 17:38:50 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards References: <003401c71bf6$b3a07290$657aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <04f501c71bfb$f21d5ba0$0202fea9@BPCS> Hey John, I suppose you don't need it, but when I tried to look at the 3D in MS Virtual Earth, it would not work on my Matrox, so I wound up looking at it on my laptop which does have 3D. I just feel that if your purchasing new equipment it probably doesn't cost that much more to get close to the bleeding edge, and who knows you might want it someday. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Isn't it possible to turn the 3d stuff off though? I mean who needs it? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:42 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Jeff, I have a Matrox Millennium G450 Dual Head card that has worked fine, however it will not display Vista Aero. For that you need 3D graphics and more memory. I'd look for a Vista compatible if I was replacing my cards. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Barrows" To: "Dba-Tech" ; "dba-OT" Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:12 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Anyone want to recommend their favorite Dual Monitor Video Card? I am looking for 1 card to run both monitors. Jeff Barrows MCP, MCAD, MCSD Outbak Technologies, LLC Racine, WI Phone: (262) 634-0653 jeff at outbaktech.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Dec 9 20:02:39 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 21:02:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards In-Reply-To: <04f501c71bfb$f21d5ba0$0202fea9@BPCS> Message-ID: <003a01c71bff$45f8c450$657aa8c0@m6805> Well of course you can do what you want. I am looking at server equipment right now and I have to buy a new video card simply because the old video card socket doesn't even exist on a lot of the new motherboards, including the one I bought. Nasty shock when I couldn't even turn on my new machine. I just resist when the OS tells me I need a near-gaming quality card in order to boot. Say what? I routinely turn off all of that fancy crap that was in XP that slowed everything down. Even on my desk top I have no use for menus that take 1/2 second to slide down. Some brain damaged moron should have been colbyized (20000 feet, out the door without a parachute) for that one. And then they made that the default. MORONS! I haven't seen Vista mind you. Maybe they have that 3-d "killer app" that I will just HAVE to have. I'm betting it is just fancy desktop crap that just slows things down. I have seen the future... and by and large it was designed by morons. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:39 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Hey John, I suppose you don't need it, but when I tried to look at the 3D in MS Virtual Earth, it would not work on my Matrox, so I wound up looking at it on my laptop which does have 3D. I just feel that if your purchasing new equipment it probably doesn't cost that much more to get close to the bleeding edge, and who knows you might want it someday. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Isn't it possible to turn the 3d stuff off though? I mean who needs it? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:42 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Jeff, I have a Matrox Millennium G450 Dual Head card that has worked fine, however it will not display Vista Aero. For that you need 3D graphics and more memory. I'd look for a Vista compatible if I was replacing my cards. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Barrows" To: "Dba-Tech" ; "dba-OT" Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:12 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Anyone want to recommend their favorite Dual Monitor Video Card? I am looking for 1 card to run both monitors. Jeff Barrows MCP, MCAD, MCSD Outbak Technologies, LLC Racine, WI Phone: (262) 634-0653 jeff at outbaktech.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Sun Dec 10 02:18:08 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:18:08 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dual Monitor Video Cards Message-ID: Hi John We all do. (Ask MS). /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 10-12-2006 02:01 >>> Isn't it possible to turn the 3d stuff off though? I mean who needs it? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Dec 11 16:37:33 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:37:33 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Message-ID: <006d01c71d74$f3981270$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I know IE is laced into Windows in lots of interesting ways. Should I do it? Rocky From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Dec 11 16:46:27 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:46:27 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] [-SPAM-] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <006d01c71d74$f3981270$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <000001c71d76$321ff4d0$0200a8c0@jt2> Yep, I think it's great. I've not used firefox, but after only a few weeks of using IE7, I already dread having to use IE6 on my work pc. It's faster, has more control over what's loading, and is more secure than IE6. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: 11 December 2006 22:38 To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List Subject: [-SPAM-] [dba-Tech] IE 7 Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I know IE is laced into Windows in lots of interesting ways. Should I do it? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From darsant at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 16:51:37 2006 From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:51:37 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <006d01c71d74$f3981270$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> References: <006d01c71d74$f3981270$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <53c8e05a0612111451r2a7ec4em7f814f203a4b439a@mail.gmail.com> Well, it looks neat, but like you said, it's laced into Windows in a lot of ways. I haven't yet because I don't feel like having bleeding edge security flaws in a browser that has OS privileges. At least if Firefox has flaws, the worst it can do is execute something with limited user level privs. Josh On 12/11/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I know IE is laced > into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > Should I do it? > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Josh McFarlane http://www.joshmcfarlane.com "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." -Albert Einstein From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Mon Dec 11 18:54:23 2006 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:54:23 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a0612111451r2a7ec4em7f814f203a4b439a@mail.gmail.com> References: <006d01c71d74$f3981270$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> <53c8e05a0612111451r2a7ec4em7f814f203a4b439a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457DFDBF.5020105@shaw.ca> wininet.dll has changed their error handling in IE7 so it only checks for null pointers now. If you are an application developer using WinInet and you start getting crashes in these functions, take a look at the pointer values getting passed to these functions. You are going to have to check the parameters being passed are valid. A lot of FTP programs use wininet. See Changes in WinInet API validation code could lead to Unexpected Behavior http://blogs.msdn.com/wndp/archive/2005/08/18/453124.aspx Josh McFarlane wrote: >Well, it looks neat, but like you said, it's laced into Windows in a >lot of ways. I haven't yet because I don't feel like having bleeding >edge security flaws in a browser that has OS privileges. At least if >Firefox has flaws, the worst it can do is execute something with >limited user level privs. > >Josh > >On 12/11/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > > >>Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I know IE is laced >>into Windows in lots of interesting ways. >> >> >> >>Should I do it? >> >> >> >>Rocky >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From john at winhaven.net Mon Dec 11 20:53:20 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:53:20 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <006d01c71d74$f3981270$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <03e601c71d98$af43d040$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I've been running it for awhile now. Its actually got me to run Firefox more just because I'm sick of troubleshooting why a website won't display what its supposed to in IE7. Strict is a good thing but its also a pain in the rear when you don't have to the time to dig into why. But, I have no problems with it messing up windows at all and I do use ftp on a regular basis. I would recommend you install it as long as you have a backup plan (FireFox, etc.) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 4:38 PM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I know IE is laced into Windows in lots of interesting ways. Should I do it? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Wed Dec 13 09:23:05 2006 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:23:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Message-ID: I've been using IE7 for almost two weeks and haven't had any problems, I use FireFox probably 75% of the time. Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Beach Access Software > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:38 PM > To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I > know IE is laced > into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > Should I do it? > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 09:32:51 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:32:51 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I did upgrade to IE7 on my new computer. Before I screwed up the netowrk connection and now can't connect to anything ;-( GK On 12/13/06, Tesiny, Ed wrote: > I've been using IE7 for almost two weeks and haven't had any problems, I > use FireFox probably 75% of the time. > > Ed Tesiny > EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > Beach Access Software > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:38 PM > > To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List > > Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > > > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I > > know IE is laced > > into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > > > > > Should I do it? > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From James at fcidms.com Wed Dec 13 09:42:56 2006 From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:42:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008a01c71ecd$5c8e7f40$800101df@fci.local> Rocky: Make sure you are not using Quickbooks before you upgrade. The only version of Quickbooks that works with IE 7 is the 2007 version. We got stung by this one and it wasn't pretty. James Barash > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Beach Access Software > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:38 PM > To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I > know IE is laced > into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > Should I do it? > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Dec 13 09:50:51 2006 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:50:51 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Message-ID: <20061213155102.80B5C655E1@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Am using IE7. No crashes, and I like the tabs, but I'll swear it's slower connecting to sites than IE6. Have switched off phishing filter cos I read that that was one cause of speed problems, but still not thrilled. Click on IE and there's a lengthy pause while it displays "Connecting....", whereas IE6 was much snappier. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Date: 13/12/06 15:33 I did upgrade to IE7 on my new computer. Before I screwed up the netowrk connection and now can't connect to anything ;-( GK On 12/13/06, Tesiny, Ed wrote: > I've been using IE7 for almost two weeks and haven't had any problems, I > use FireFox probably 75% of the time. > > Ed Tesiny > EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > Beach Access Software > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:38 PM > > To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List > > Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > > > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I > > know IE is laced > > into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > > > > > Should I do it? > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 From bchacc at san.rr.com Wed Dec 13 10:00:38 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:00:38 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <008a01c71ecd$5c8e7f40$800101df@fci.local> Message-ID: <002801c71ecf$d5c50170$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> Ah. Good one. I don't use QuickBooks but I was thinking of interfacing my manufacturing software to it. So I'll need QB 2007. Maybe they'll give me a developer copy. If I'm not using QB but I fire up an earlier version for testing, what will happen. Will QB just not work or will it hose other stuff on my system? Thanks and regards, Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of James Barash Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:43 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Rocky: Make sure you are not using Quickbooks before you upgrade. The only version of Quickbooks that works with IE 7 is the 2007 version. We got stung by this one and it wasn't pretty. James Barash > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Beach Access Software > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:38 PM > To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I > know IE is laced > into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > Should I do it? > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/584 - Release Date: 12/12/2006 11:17 PM From bchacc at san.rr.com Wed Dec 13 10:01:21 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:01:21 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <20061213155102.80B5C655E1@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Message-ID: <002901c71ecf$ef87b3a0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> Have you tried Firefox? Curious how the response time compares. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:51 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Am using IE7. No crashes, and I like the tabs, but I'll swear it's slower connecting to sites than IE6. Have switched off phishing filter cos I read that that was one cause of speed problems, but still not thrilled. Click on IE and there's a lengthy pause while it displays "Connecting....", whereas IE6 was much snappier. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Date: 13/12/06 15:33 I did upgrade to IE7 on my new computer. Before I screwed up the netowrk connection and now can't connect to anything ;-( GK On 12/13/06, Tesiny, Ed wrote: > I've been using IE7 for almost two weeks and haven't had any problems, I > use FireFox probably 75% of the time. > > Ed Tesiny > EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > Beach Access Software > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:38 PM > > To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List > > Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > > > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I > > know IE is laced > > into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > > > > > Should I do it? > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/584 - Release Date: 12/12/2006 11:17 PM From James at fcidms.com Wed Dec 13 11:35:21 2006 From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:35:21 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <002801c71ecf$d5c50170$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <009f01c71edd$10e07660$800101df@fci.local> Rocky: We only had problems with Quickbooks. Quickbooks uses an embeded IE as its interface and I suspect some of the new security features cause the problems. Symantec has promised a patch to fix the problems but it's not available yet. Any software that uses IE the same way might have problems but I'm unaware of any other software written the same way. James -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:01 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Ah. Good one. I don't use QuickBooks but I was thinking of interfacing my manufacturing software to it. So I'll need QB 2007. Maybe they'll give me a developer copy. If I'm not using QB but I fire up an earlier version for testing, what will happen. Will QB just not work or will it hose other stuff on my system? Thanks and regards, Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of James Barash Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:43 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Rocky: Make sure you are not using Quickbooks before you upgrade. The only version of Quickbooks that works with IE 7 is the 2007 version. We got stung by this one and it wasn't pretty. James Barash > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Beach Access Software > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:38 PM > To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I > know IE is laced > into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > Should I do it? > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/584 - Release Date: 12/12/2006 11:17 PM _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Dec 13 11:42:06 2006 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:42:06 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <002901c71ecf$ef87b3a0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <012201c71ede$01d3cfe0$16648552@minster33c3r25> Sorry Rocky, no I haven't. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Beach Access Software > Sent: 13 December 2006 16:01 > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > > Have you tried Firefox? Curious how the response time compares. > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:51 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > Am using IE7. No crashes, and I like the tabs, but I'll swear > it's slower connecting to sites than IE6. Have switched off > phishing filter cos I read that that was one cause of speed > problems, but still not thrilled. Click on IE and there's a > lengthy pause while it displays "Connecting....", whereas IE6 > was much snappier. > > -- > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > --------- Original Message -------- > From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > Date: 13/12/06 15:33 > > > I did upgrade to IE7 on my new computer. Before I screwed up > the netowrk connection and now can't connect to anything ;-( > > GK > > On 12/13/06, Tesiny, Ed wrote: > > I've been using IE7 for almost two weeks and haven't had > any problems, > > I use FireFox probably 75% of the time. > > > > Ed Tesiny > > EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach > > > Access Software > > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:38 PM > > > To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List > > > Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > > > > > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I > know IE is > > > laced into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I do it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > ________________________________________________ > Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/584 - Release > Date: 12/12/2006 11:17 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From john at winhaven.net Wed Dec 13 12:02:54 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:02:54 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] QuickBooks (was: IE 7) In-Reply-To: <008a01c71ecd$5c8e7f40$800101df@fci.local> Message-ID: <01e501c71ee0$ea61bd10$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Hi James, Intuit sent out a notice on this, I didn't get it but some of my clients did. QB 2004 doesn't work with IE7 - I had a client experience that issue (I had to unistall IE7 and mark it to not download with Windows Critical Updates). I don't know about QB 2005, but will soon find out as I have clients using it. QB 2006 does work with IE7 (I have client using that too). I think you have to have the auto update feature on or do a manual update. BTW, anything worth the upgrading from 2006 to 2007? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of James Barash Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:43 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Rocky: Make sure you are not using Quickbooks before you upgrade. The only version of Quickbooks that works with IE 7 is the 2007 version. We got stung by this one and it wasn't pretty. James Barash From john at winhaven.net Wed Dec 13 12:54:11 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:54:11 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <002801c71ecf$d5c50170$6a01a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <023001c71ee8$226a0d50$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Rocky, For that you'll want to sign up as a Intuit Developer - its free and includes some software price breaks. http://developer.intuit.com/?lid=button -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:01 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Ah. Good one. I don't use QuickBooks but I was thinking of interfacing my manufacturing software to it. So I'll need QB 2007. Maybe they'll give me a developer copy. From john at winhaven.net Wed Dec 13 12:54:11 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:54:11 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 In-Reply-To: <20061213155102.80B5C655E1@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Message-ID: <023101c71ee8$2347c320$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I'd have to agree with that. I think Firefox is quicker too but it depends on the site. I also have AT&T custom browser which I think is based on Navigator/Moxilla but I'm not sure. Its slow too. I suppose its time to check out Opera too. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:51 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Am using IE7. No crashes, and I like the tabs, but I'll swear it's slower connecting to sites than IE6. Have switched off phishing filter cos I read that that was one cause of speed problems, but still not thrilled. Click on IE and there's a lengthy pause while it displays "Connecting....", whereas IE6 was much snappier. From pharold at proftesting.com Wed Dec 13 15:59:38 2006 From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry L Harold) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:59:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Message-ID: <00F5FCB4F80FDB4EB03FBAAEAD97CEAD335C23@EXCHANGE.ptiorl.local> PaperTiger also uses an IE interface to browse - only shows blank tabs & screens after upgrading from IE6 to IE7. The only solution they have at the moment is to uninstall IE7 and go back to IE6. Perry Harold Professional Testing Inc 407-264-2993 pharold at proftesting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:01 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Have you tried Firefox? Curious how the response time compares. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:51 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Am using IE7. No crashes, and I like the tabs, but I'll swear it's slower connecting to sites than IE6. Have switched off phishing filter cos I read that that was one cause of speed problems, but still not thrilled. Click on IE and there's a lengthy pause while it displays "Connecting....", whereas IE6 was much snappier. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IE 7 Date: 13/12/06 15:33 I did upgrade to IE7 on my new computer. Before I screwed up the netowrk connection and now can't connect to anything ;-( GK On 12/13/06, Tesiny, Ed wrote: > I've been using IE7 for almost two weeks and haven't had any problems, > I use FireFox probably 75% of the time. > > Ed Tesiny > EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach > > Access Software > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:38 PM > > To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List > > Subject: [dba-Tech] IE 7 > > > > Windows is nagging me to install IE7. I use Firefox but I know IE is > > laced into Windows in lots of interesting ways. > > > > > > > > Should I do it? > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/584 - Release Date: 12/12/2006 11:17 PM _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Dec 15 08:09:34 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:09:34 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Registry Mechanic Message-ID: <001401c72052$a7f1d780$657aa8c0@m6805> Has anyone noticed that the purchase of Registry Mechanic includes (in very fine print) that is a "subscription" to the software, that lasts one year, and that it will automatically bill your credit card when the "subscription" is up? This is a PROGRAM, not an antivirus definition or something. Annoying! So does anyone recommend a registry cleaner that doesn't try to clean my bank account while it is at it? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Fri Dec 15 08:25:03 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:25:03 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird Printer setting... Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C1C03@ALCEXLG1> Hi all Got a bit of an odd thing happening here, where when you print a document, the printer keeps a copy of it in the queue, with the status "printed". Then, when you restart your pc, the printer immediately spits out a copy of everything in the queue. Needless to say, as well as being horribly wasteful, this is REALLY annoying, especially when you forget to clear the queue before you reboot. It only seems to be happening to the HP printers on the network, but it's affecting several of them, all different models. I was wondering if anyone had encountered this before, and knew where to look to turn it off... There is a setting in each printer that says "Keep printed documents", but this is unchecked on all of them... Any ideas? Jon The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From john at winhaven.net Fri Dec 15 08:39:50 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:39:50 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird Printer setting... In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C1C03@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: <018a01c72056$e0b3bb20$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Hi Jon, I haven't run into that yet. You could check for HP updates. May be a known issue. Maybe due to some Windows updates or something. From john at winhaven.net Fri Dec 15 08:39:50 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:39:50 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Registry Mechanic In-Reply-To: <001401c72052$a7f1d780$657aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <018b01c72056$e0dc2ab0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Hi JC, No I haven't tried that one yet. I've tried quite a few others, some OTS some shareware, a couple freeware. PC Pitstop Optimize works pretty good and is quick. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:10 AM So does anyone recommend a registry cleaner that doesn't try to clean my bank account while it is at it? From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Fri Dec 15 08:47:16 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:47:16 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Registry Mechanic Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C1C06@ALCEXLG1> I use "Complete Registry Cleaner". Cost me about $20 I think, and has fixed a variety of problems on various machines. Can't remember the url off the top of my head, I'll see if I can find it when I get home. Jon -----Original Message----- From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:10 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Registry Mechanic Has anyone noticed that the purchase of Registry Mechanic includes (in very fine print) that is a "subscription" to the software, that lasts one year, and that it will automatically bill your credit card when the "subscription" is up? This is a PROGRAM, not an antivirus definition or something. Annoying! So does anyone recommend a registry cleaner that doesn't try to clean my bank account while it is at it? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Dec 15 11:43:33 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:43:33 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PGP automation Message-ID: <002a01c72070$8b8602b0$657aa8c0@m6805> I just got off the phone with PGP's ONLY rep for the SDK for automating PGP. The price for "if it's going to run on a server (and use more than one key) is $7,500!!! $995 for the developer's SDK where it will talk to a licensed copy of PGP. So.... is anyone out there using (automating) PGP? Is anyone out there using the open source version and automating that? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Dec 16 14:46:26 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:46:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] dhcp stuff Message-ID: <001501c72153$420d2b70$657aa8c0@m6805> I am trying to get my router (DL-624) to be the DHCP server (which it has always been) and to assign static addresses to my various computers. I have discovered the mac addresses, built up the list of statically assigned mac / ip address sets etc. One of my machines has two 1gb NICs. For come reason, one of those NICs ends up being assigned a Dynamic address even though the router has a mac / ip pair in the static assignment table and it is enabled. I have double checked everything. The NIC that windows claims is the second port is the culprit. If I go into the properties inside of windows and specifically tell it to use a given address (statically assigned inside of Windows) it does take that address, but if I tell it to dynamically acquire an address it gets the dynamic address that the router assigns. The router, at this instant, has TWO IP addresses for this NIC - a statically assigned (now matching both in the router table and in Windows) and a dynamically assigned address by the router. If I try (for example) to remote desktop into the dynamically assigned address the attempt fails, which makes sense because the actual port (mac address) is statically assigned (in windows and the router) to a different address. I am wondering why the router dynamically assigns an address to that MAC even though there is an entry in the static address table for that MAC, and in fact I have told Windows to statically assign an address to that NIC to match that static address assigned by the router. In essence, I can now remote desktop in (from inside of my network) to either nic on that machine, at the "statically assigned" ip addresses, and cannot remote desktop to the "dynamically assigned" ip address for the offending mac, so I know now which addresses are valid. But why the dynamic assignment which is in fact not used by the machine? I sure wish I understood this stuff better. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Dec 18 11:10:21 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:10:21 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Database Advisors lists Message-ID: <003a01c722c7$66c0b4d0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Dear dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com, Isn?t access-d a great list? We?re the kind of community that actually works?we get the technical help we need free, and without the ego trappings that you?ll suffer from on other lists. 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Email: HYPERLINK "mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com"mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com Website: HYPERLINK "http://www.databaseadvisors.com/" \nhttp://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 12/18/2006 From carbonnb at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 08:34:40 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:34:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers Message-ID: I have got 2 d-link routers (DI-704P print server router, and a DI-524 wireless) that I'm trying to hook up together, to give me wireless and the print server. Does anyone have any ideas how to set them up, so that the wireless is just an access point and not a router? What I'm after is the 704 to be the DHCP server, that serves up IPs for everything, so that all the IPs are in the same subnet, including the wireless access point. I'm at a loss as to how to set them up. Ideas, suggestions, "You can't do that" comments are all greatfully accpeted. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Tue Dec 19 08:40:50 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:40:50 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C1C43@ALCEXLG1> I don't know about the D-Link ones, but all the Netgear Routers I've used have a configuration screen where you can turn off DHCP, and routing etc. I'm guessing that the D-Link ones would, but not assuming, because that makes an Ass out of U and Ming. Whoever he is. Sorry, been at the Christmas spirit a bit early :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:35 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers I have got 2 d-link routers (DI-704P print server router, and a DI-524 wireless) that I'm trying to hook up together, to give me wireless and the print server. Does anyone have any ideas how to set them up, so that the wireless is just an access point and not a router? What I'm after is the 704 to be the DHCP server, that serves up IPs for everything, so that all the IPs are in the same subnet, including the wireless access point. I'm at a loss as to how to set them up. Ideas, suggestions, "You can't do that" comments are all greatfully accpeted. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From john at winhaven.net Tue Dec 19 11:35:54 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:35:54 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <081e01c72394$231502e0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Bryan, If I undertsand this correctly yoou'll be using the DI-524 as the router and the DI-704P as the access point for your printer to be networked. If so, the first thing to do is download the latest firmware from Dlink http://support.dlink.com/downloads/ (because it will set all your setting s back to default. While there download the manual if you don't have it. Next, check the list of compatible printers for the 704P. (Just because your printer isn't in the list doesn't mean it won't work work though.) Then download the manual and applications for it. After that it you have questions let me know, by some odd coincidence I happen to have both of those units. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:35 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers I have got 2 d-link routers (DI-704P print server router, and a DI-524 wireless) that I'm trying to hook up together, to give me wireless and the print server. Does anyone have any ideas how to set them up, so that the wireless is just an access point and not a router? What I'm after is the 704 to be the DHCP server, that serves up IPs for everything, so that all the IPs are in the same subnet, including the wireless access point. I'm at a loss as to how to set them up. Ideas, suggestions, "You can't do that" comments are all greatfully accpeted. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.25/593 - Release Date: 12/19/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.25/593 - Release Date: 12/19/2006 From carbonnb at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 15:01:44 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:01:44 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers In-Reply-To: <081e01c72394$231502e0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <081e01c72394$231502e0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: On 12/19/06, John Bartow wrote: > Bryan, > If I undertsand this correctly yoou'll be using the DI-524 as the router and > the DI-704P as the access point for your printer to be networked. not quite. the 704 will be the router and access point for the printer. The 524 will be the Wireless access pont, not routing, just switching/hubbing :) > If so, the first thing to do is download the latest firmware from Dlink > http://support.dlink.com/downloads/ (because it will set all your setting s > back to default. While there download the manual if you don't have it. Done and got 'em > Next, check the list of compatible printers for the 704P. (Just because your > printer isn't in the list doesn't mean it won't work work though.) Then > download the manual and applications for it. THe printer is working fine on the 704 > After that it you have questions let me know, by some odd coincidence I > happen to have both of those units. Where I am running into issues is with wireless connectivity. I have changed the IP of the 524 to 192.168.0.2 and disabled the DHCP server in it. Wirelessly I can get to the admin pages of both routers, but I can't get out to the 'net. The way its setup right now is: Cable Modem --> WAN port on 704, LAN Port of 704 --> LAN port of 524 Right now the 704 is connected to the 524 with a regular CAT5 cable, but I have read conflicting info about needing a cross-over cable. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Dec 19 15:30:14 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:30:14 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003401c723b4$df7d3a40$657aa8c0@m6805> The first thing you should know is that normally you hook the WAN input of a router up to a normal channel of the object "ahead" of you in the LAN. IOW, if there is a cable modem then a router, the router's WAN goes to the output of the cable modem. If you hook up the WAN from a router to a normal channel of another router, then you "isolate" the router second in line. It can see out, but the lead router can't see down in to the second in line router. Thus you would want to hook a normal channel of the second router to a normal channel of the first router, NOT the WAN of the second router to a normal channel of the first router, UNLESS you intentionally want to have an isolated network. Take all this with a grain of salt however as I am in no way a notwork guy. I went out and bought an 8 channel gigabit switch. I hook the wireless up to the cable modem (head of the chain), then the gb switch up to the wireless router (tail of the chain). All of my hardwired machines I hook to the gb switch. In this day and age a lot of machines have gb NICs so if everyone talks amongst themselves over the gb switch they can do so at a much higher speed. Going out to the web, they all share a connection from the switch to the router (typically 100mb) and from there throttled waaaaaaay down to the typical 5 mbit (or in my case 3mb) out to the internet. Likewise since the wireless is typically 56 mbit, it does no harm being inside of the head 100mb router as it can't handle the gb speeds anyway. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:02 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers On 12/19/06, John Bartow wrote: > Bryan, > If I undertsand this correctly yoou'll be using the DI-524 as the > router and the DI-704P as the access point for your printer to be networked. not quite. the 704 will be the router and access point for the printer. The 524 will be the Wireless access pont, not routing, just switching/hubbing :) > If so, the first thing to do is download the latest firmware from > Dlink http://support.dlink.com/downloads/ (because it will set all > your setting s back to default. While there download the manual if you don't have it. Done and got 'em > Next, check the list of compatible printers for the 704P. (Just > because your printer isn't in the list doesn't mean it won't work work > though.) Then download the manual and applications for it. THe printer is working fine on the 704 > After that it you have questions let me know, by some odd coincidence > I happen to have both of those units. Where I am running into issues is with wireless connectivity. I have changed the IP of the 524 to 192.168.0.2 and disabled the DHCP server in it. Wirelessly I can get to the admin pages of both routers, but I can't get out to the 'net. The way its setup right now is: Cable Modem --> WAN port on 704, LAN Port of 704 --> LAN port of 524 Right now the 704 is connected to the 524 with a regular CAT5 cable, but I have read conflicting info about needing a cross-over cable. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Dec 20 11:21:21 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:21:21 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <065b01c7245b$45421110$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> OK. I have done this two separate ways depending on the needs of the site but it would appear to me that you don't want to segregate the wireless from the LAN. You basically want all of your wired and wireless to be in a cohesive LAN correct? So that you can share files and devices? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:02 PM not quite. the 704 will be the router and access point for the printer. The 524 will be the Wireless access pont, not routing, just switching/hubbing :) Where I am running into issues is with wireless connectivity. I have changed the IP of the 524 to 192.168.0.2 and disabled the DHCP server in it. Wirelessly I can get to the admin pages of both routers, but I can't get out to the 'net. The way its setup right now is: Cable Modem --> WAN port on 704, LAN Port of 704 --> LAN port of 524 Right now the 704 is connected to the 524 with a regular CAT5 cable, but I have read conflicting info about needing a cross-over cable. From carbonnb at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 11:42:38 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:42:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers In-Reply-To: <065b01c7245b$45421110$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <065b01c7245b$45421110$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: On 12/20/06, John Bartow wrote: > OK. > > I have done this two separate ways depending on the needs of the site but it > would appear to me that you don't want to segregate the wireless from the > LAN. You basically want all of your wired and wireless to be in a cohesive > LAN correct? So that you can share files and devices? You are correct sir on both counts -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From john at winhaven.net Wed Dec 20 11:47:19 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:47:19 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] robotics Message-ID: <067d01c7245e$e581e710$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> JC (and all you other robotics fans): You may find this interesting: http://msdn.microsoft.com/robotics/ From john at winhaven.net Wed Dec 20 11:52:31 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:52:31 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <068201c7245f$a0d316b0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I've done this with Linksys, SMC, Netgear and a couple of oddball brands but not the dlink. I'll have to try it out with the dlink units to see if they work the same. (The dlink units I have are extras so I can reconfigure them for testing this.) I'll get back to you on it. From carbonnb at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 12:02:39 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:02:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers In-Reply-To: <068201c7245f$a0d316b0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <068201c7245f$a0d316b0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: On 12/20/06, John Bartow wrote: > I've done this with Linksys, SMC, Netgear and a couple of oddball brands but > not the dlink. I'll have to try it out with the dlink units to see if they > work the same. (The dlink units I have are extras so I can reconfigure them > for testing this.) I'll get back to you on it. Thanks John. Do you want to just come up here and do it FOR me? :) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From john at winhaven.net Wed Dec 20 12:33:48 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:33:48 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] "Daisy-Chaining" D-Link Routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <06ac01c72465$64008140$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Would if I could. I think once I do it here I can step you through it pretty easily though :o) From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Dec 23 21:47:53 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:47:53 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting reading Message-ID: <00d401c7270e$4b3972b0$1501a8c0@m6805> http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT121106171654 &p=1 John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Wed Dec 27 10:15:01 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:15:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free Software Message-ID: Got this from another list I'm on and maybe of some use to folks here: >Just found this new site: >http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/about/ > >They give away full versions of a software package,free. A different >one every day. It's setup as a way of getting "word of mouth" going >for the software. You have to install and activate it the same day >(otherwise it won't work). > >You get a full version of the software (no features disabled), but no >technical support and no option to upgrade in future. > >I googled the name and haven't found any warnings about the site, yet... > >Enjoy -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From artful at rogers.com Wed Dec 27 10:35:12 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 08:35:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] How Things Change Message-ID: <20061227163512.69748.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I just looked at my free space and thought, sheesh, only 88GB left. About 20 years ago a friend of mine bought the first hard disk I'd ever seen. He paid $3500 for a 5MB disk for his Apple III. I imagine that in 20 years, hard disks will be measured in petabytes, and we'll still be running out of space. Arthur From bheid at sc.rr.com Wed Dec 27 11:31:38 2006 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:31:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] How Things Change In-Reply-To: <20061227163512.69748.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601c729dc$de080540$2d01a8c0@bhxp> Yeah, I hate it when any given drive/partition gets below 20GB. I feel like I am about out of space. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:35 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] How Things Change I just looked at my free space and thought, sheesh, only 88GB left. About 20 years ago a friend of mine bought the first hard disk I'd ever seen. He paid $3500 for a 5MB disk for his Apple III. I imagine that in 20 years, hard disks will be measured in petabytes, and we'll still be running out of space. Arthur