From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jan  1 20:34:35 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:34:35 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] WMF vulnerability
In-Reply-To: <002801c60dfb$a4324c70$30a70c54@minster33c3r25>
References: <43B6522A.21299.557677B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <43B91DDB.27536.391B33@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Don't know how many of you are up on this, but be careful out there.
This one is VERY nasty

http://isc.sans.org/




-- 
Stuart




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jan  1 21:16:48 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:16:48 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] WMF vulnerability
References: <43B6522A.21299.557677B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<43B91DDB.27536.391B33@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <43B89B20.5020906@shaw.ca>

Yup, if you don't want to use the partial patch from Stuart's url.

Un-register the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer (Shimgvw.dll) on Windows 
XP Service Pack 1; Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows Server 2003 and 
Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/912840.mspx

This will stop browser infections. BUT

Just remember this won't protect you, if you store and save a downloaded 
jpeg, then view it with MS window fax viewer,  these guys can disguise a 
.wmf  file extension as a .jpeg file and the exploit will work as the 
fax viewer will interpret it correctly as a virus loaded wmf file.


Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>Don't know how many of you are up on this, but be careful out there.
>This one is VERY nasty
>
>http://isc.sans.org/
>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com  Mon Jan  2 10:48:40 2006
From: jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John Colby)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:48:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free Visual Studio e-learning from Microsoft
Message-ID: <000401c60fbc$63510440$647aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I just ran across this.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/learning/elearning_promo/default.aspx

It is a limited time offer which expires very soon.  One free course.  I am
examining it further now.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Jan  3 18:59:21 2006
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:59:21 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] COmputer Cases
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP07AA0D7497DF821A7B3969AE2F0@CEZ.ICE>

I am considering building a PVR/Media Centre PC and I'm looking for 
cases that will fit in with the "look" of my stereo components.

I have no idea where to start looking at cases, does anyone have any 
recommendations for a destop looking case that looks like a stereo 
component?

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken; a lifetime commitment for 
a pig.




From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Jan  3 19:16:30 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:16:30 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] COmputer Cases
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP07AA0D7497DF821A7B3969AE2F0@CEZ.ICE>
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP07AA0D7497DF821A7B3969AE2F0@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950601031716m55c16fben80da842663123ac8@mail.gmail.com>

ExtremeTech just updated their "build it" specifications for a mediacenter PC.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1893732,00.asp

The chose a Silverstone case you can get at Newegg.com or
Tigerdirect.com among other places.....

I just have a regular desktop PC connected to my big TV and I am
thinking that it makes too much noise. I should look at building my
own mediacenter system to replace it.

Keep us posted as to what you end up doing will ya?

GK

On 1/3/06, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I am considering building a PVR/Media Centre PC and I'm looking for
> cases that will fit in with the "look" of my stereo components.
>
> I have no idea where to start looking at cases, does anyone have any
> recommendations for a destop looking case that looks like a stereo
> component?
>
> --
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken; a lifetime commitment for
> a pig.
>
>
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garykjos at gmail.com


From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Jan  3 21:00:30 2006
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:00:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] COmputer Cases
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950601031716m55c16fben80da842663123ac8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP07AA0D7497DF821A7B3969AE2F0@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP07604492E5EFCA4F1431BAAE2F0@CEZ.ICE>

On 3 Jan 2006 at 19:16, Gary Kjos wrote:

> ExtremeTech just updated their "build it" specifications for a
> mediacenter PC. 
> 
> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1893732,00.asp
> 
> The chose a Silverstone case you can get at Newegg.com or
> Tigerdirect.com among other places.....
> 
> I just have a regular desktop PC connected to my big TV and I am
> thinking that it makes too much noise. I should look at building my
> own mediacenter system to replace it.
> 
> Keep us posted as to what you end up doing will ya?

If I can actually afford to do it I will. But it will more than 
likely be a Linux PVR/Media Centre.

After looking at the cost of the cases, I may have just priced myself 
right out of the PVR market.

An Silverstone LC18 case (the one wiht the touch panel), at a 
retailer I could find that sells them was almost $800!!

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't 
matter and those who matter don't mind - Dr.Seuss 




From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jan  3 21:01:14 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:01:14 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] COmputer Cases
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP07AA0D7497DF821A7B3969AE2F0@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <024401c610db$21116c30$6e01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Tiger Direct has quite a few.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:59 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] COmputer Cases

I am considering building a PVR/Media Centre PC and I'm looking for cases
that will fit in with the "look" of my stereo components.

I have no idea where to start looking at cases, does anyone have any
recommendations for a destop looking case that looks like a stereo
component?

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a
chicken; a lifetime commitment for a pig.


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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Jan  4 07:45:43 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 07:45:43 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] COmputer Cases
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP07604492E5EFCA4F1431BAAE2F0@CEZ.ICE>
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP07AA0D7497DF821A7B3969AE2F0@CEZ.ICE>
	<aea6c4950601031716m55c16fben80da842663123ac8@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP07604492E5EFCA4F1431BAAE2F0@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950601040545g33ed39f8l26ec21280abfd64b@mail.gmail.com>

Extremetech chose to go with the similar case without the LCD panel as
they said it would be not all that useful at the distance you would be
sitting from it. The ones I was looking at at Tigerdirect were between
$80 and $160.

On 1/3/06, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> After looking at the cost of the cases, I may have just priced myself
> right out of the PVR market.
>
> An Silverstone LC18 case (the one wiht the touch panel), at a
> retailer I could find that sells them was almost $800!!

--
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jan  4 08:05:31 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:05:31 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] COmputer Cases
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950601040545g33ed39f8l26ec21280abfd64b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP07AA0D7497DF821A7B3969AE2F0@CEZ.ICE>
	<aea6c4950601031716m55c16fben80da842663123ac8@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP07604492E5EFCA4F1431BAAE2F0@CEZ.ICE>
	<aea6c4950601040545g33ed39f8l26ec21280abfd64b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920601040605t1e36ab14x@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/01/06, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> Extremetech chose to go with the similar case without the LCD panel as
> they said it would be not all that useful at the distance you would be
> sitting from it. The ones I was looking at at Tigerdirect were between
> $80 and $160.

I know. The LC18 has a 7" touchscreen, which I though would be useful
for when the remote gets misplaced, which they normally do with 2
little girls running around the house :)

I like to have controls on the face of the component instead of just a
remote (even if I can use a keyboard and mouse). I have a 13" TV that
is all but useless because I can't program it from the front of the
TV, since I don't have the remote for it.

If I really want the PVR then I may just go with the less expensive one.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Thu Jan  5 09:16:39 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:16:39 -0000 
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8458F@ALCUXB>

Bah, Seagate have bought/merged with Maxtor...
 
Where am I going to go to buy a proper hard drive now? :-(
 
 
Jon


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From darsant at gmail.com  Thu Jan  5 09:31:28 2006
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:31:28 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8458F@ALCUXB>
References: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8458F@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a0601050731pea8000fpd69adfc0b621ccf1@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/5/06, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> wrote:
> Bah, Seagate have bought/merged with Maxtor...
>
> Where am I going to go to buy a proper hard drive now? :-(

Ewww. I always hated Maxtor. Lost a drive walking across the room
once... didn't drop it or anything, just walking, and the motor went
out.

Perhaps they'll keep their production lines seperate... we can only hope.

--
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jan  5 09:33:13 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:33:13 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8458F@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <003c01c6120d$58827fa0$6f01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

WD 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda


Bah, Seagate have bought/merged with Maxtor...
 
Where am I going to go to buy a proper hard drive now? :-(



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Jan  5 09:35:34 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:35:34 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
Message-ID: <s3bd4adc.005@cactus.dk>

Hi Jon

Hitachi (IBM)

That said, we see very few bad drives these days at our clients and no brand stands out neither positive nor negative.
Some years ago we encountered a bad batch of drives in a series of HP OmniBooks 4150 or 6000 but that's the exception ...

/gustav

>>> Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk 05-01-2006 16:16 >>>
Bah, Seagate have bought/merged with Maxtor...
 
Where am I going to go to buy a proper hard drive now? :-(
 
 
Jon




From darsant at gmail.com  Thu Jan  5 09:38:47 2006
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:38:47 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
In-Reply-To: <s3bd4adc.005@cactus.dk>
References: <s3bd4adc.005@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a0601050738g36f18154w3ae4804347840e5d@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/5/06, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Jon
>
> Hitachi (IBM)
>
> That said, we see very few bad drives these days at our clients and no brand stands out neither positive nor negative.

Personally, I've had bad experiences with server reliability on WD /
Hitachis / Maxtor. Seagate was the only brand that I trusted to put in
24/7 uptime servers.

Granted, the others work great as normal hard drives, I just get
finicky when using them on something data-reliant as I've had too many
horror stories in the systems builder business.

--
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jan  5 09:46:36 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:46:36 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a0601050738g36f18154w3ae4804347840e5d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c6120f$36474e50$6f01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

I've had issues with low end WDs but never the higher end drives.



From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jan  5 09:46:36 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:46:36 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
In-Reply-To: <s3bd4adc.005@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <003f01c6120f$367e15c0$6f01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Hi Gustav,
Did they HPs have Fujitsu drives?

I had a customer a few years ago with an HP PC which had a recall on the
hard drive if made by Fujitsu . We checked out the recall but they only
replaced the drive and did not cover the expense of installation or
transferring the OS, files, etc. She decided not to do it and one month
after the deadline her drive died.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Jan  5 10:23:01 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:23:01 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
Message-ID: <s3bd5617.009@cactus.dk>

Hi John

I don't remember (a colleague handled it) but it sounds likely. If you were lucky, the drive malfunctioned slightly and you had time to backup. A few days or a week later it died. Or it just died. We ended up having a hot connect at HP service bypassing al the usual phone desk border stuff ...

/gustav

>>> john at winhaven.net 05-01-2006 16:46 >>>
Hi Gustav,
Did they HPs have Fujitsu drives?

I had a customer a few years ago with an HP PC which had a recall on the
hard drive if made by Fujitsu . We checked out the recall but they only
replaced the drive and did not cover the expense of installation or
transferring the OS, files, etc. She decided not to do it and one month
after the deadline her drive died.




From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Thu Jan  5 10:39:25 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:39:25 -0000 
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC84591@ALCUXB>

Maxtor are about the only drives I've not had die on me... I've lost
Seagates (had three DOA), IBM's, WD and Fujitsu... Maxtor's are all I've
bought for the last 5 years for me, for work, and for other people. These
are all IDE/SATA drives, for servers at work we HAVE to use the HP SCSI
drives.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh McFarlane [mailto:darsant at gmail.com]
Sent: 05 January 2006 15:31
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dammit!


On 1/5/06, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> wrote:
> Bah, Seagate have bought/merged with Maxtor...
>
> Where am I going to go to buy a proper hard drive now? :-(

Ewww. I always hated Maxtor. Lost a drive walking across the room
once... didn't drop it or anything, just walking, and the motor went
out.

Perhaps they'll keep their production lines seperate... we can only hope.

--
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jan  5 14:53:52 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:53:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS releases WMF patch early.
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABF5B3@ADGSERVER>

Found the info for all of the versions here:
http://bink.nu/Article5764.bink

The direct XP link is here:
http://tinyurl.com/9mej3

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0c1b4c96-57ae-499e-
b89b-215b7bb4d8e9&DisplayLang=en

Enjoy,
Bobby

From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Jan  5 17:38:50 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:38:50 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS releases WMF patch early.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABF5B3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <016b01c61251$2ea84b30$d8ac0c54@minster33c3r25>

Thanks Bobby.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: 05 January 2006 20:54
> To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; 'Discussion of Hardware and 
> Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] MS releases WMF patch early.
> 
> 
> Found the info for all of the versions here: 
> http://bink.nu/Article5764.bink
> 
> The direct XP link is here:
> http://tinyurl.com/9mej3
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0c1b4
c96-57ae-499e-
b89b-215b7bb4d8e9&DisplayLang=en

Enjoy,
Bobby



From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Fri Jan  6 06:54:59 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:54:59 -0000 
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8459D@ALCUXB>

Got home last night to find that my ADSL modem/router was toast... This is
the third one I've had to replace due to power cuts etc, and the Electric
company say that they're not responsible for any damage caused. At over ?70
a throw, buying new DG834GT's is getting to be an expensive hobby.
 
So I'm thinking of investing in a UPS once the new router has arrived. I
don't really know what I'm looking for in a UPS as the only ones I've seen
are the huge ones at work that sit in the bottom of the racks. Ideally I'd
like something smaller and less obtrusive as it has to go in the living room
at home. Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
Thanks
 
 
Jon


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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Jan  6 07:10:58 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:10:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8459D@ALCUXB>
References: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8459D@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920601060510yb805261r@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/01/06, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> wrote:
> Got home last night to find that my ADSL modem/router was toast... This is
> the third one I've had to replace due to power cuts etc, and the Electric
> company say that they're not responsible for any damage caused. At over ?70
> a throw, buying new DG834GT's is getting to be an expensive hobby.
>
> So I'm thinking of investing in a UPS once the new router has arrived. I
> don't really know what I'm looking for in a UPS as the only ones I've seen
> are the huge ones at work that sit in the bottom of the racks. Ideally I'd
> like something smaller and less obtrusive as it has to go in the living room
> at home. Does anyone have any recommendations?

APC (http://www.apcc.com) are one of big player on this side of the
pond. I don't have any personal experience with them, but a friend of
mine has one and recommends them.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Jan  6 08:04:11 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:04:11 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920601060510yb805261r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8459D@ALCUXB>
	<e04a6c920601060510yb805261r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950601060604q1daa2348oc5a4d630ebbf93e4@mail.gmail.com>

I've got 3 APC UPS's on systems at work and at home and they have
served me well. They look basically like a huge power strip/surge
suppressor. About the size of a small shoebox with a cord on it.  If
nothing else at your house is getting damaged, I'd wonder about the
power problem - maybe it's actually the phone line that's the conduit
for the voltage spikes, so be sure you get one that has connections
for that in addition to the electrical power.

GK

On 1/6/06, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 06/01/06, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> wrote:
> > Got home last night to find that my ADSL modem/router was toast... This is
> > the third one I've had to replace due to power cuts etc, and the Electric
> > company say that they're not responsible for any damage caused. At over ?70
> > a throw, buying new DG834GT's is getting to be an expensive hobby.
> >
> > So I'm thinking of investing in a UPS once the new router has arrived. I
> > don't really know what I'm looking for in a UPS as the only ones I've seen
> > are the huge ones at work that sit in the bottom of the racks. Ideally I'd
> > like something smaller and less obtrusive as it has to go in the living room
> > at home. Does anyone have any recommendations?
>
> APC (http://www.apcc.com) are one of big player on this side of the
> pond. I don't have any personal experience with them, but a friend of
> mine has one and recommends them.
>
> --
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jan  6 08:27:47 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:27:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT]  Re:  UPS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D1D983@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABF5C1@ADGSERVER>

I'll second the APC line.  Not the most inexpensive, but great customer
service.  If you are going to connect other costly items to the UPS, I'd try
and get one that has AVR (automatic voltage regulation) on it.  Some of the
APC towers look nice and are relatively thin.

I have these in use at my house:
PC: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1000
I have only the PC on this so that I can get a better run time
Monitor, router, printers: APC Back-UPS Pro 1100 (can't find on APC site
now).  They have then at Sam's
Misc equipment:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BE500U (2 of
these)
HDTV: A belkin 800 or 1000VA UPS with AVR (got a good price on this).

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:11 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
Importance: Low


On 06/01/06, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> wrote:
> Got home last night to find that my ADSL modem/router was toast... This is
> the third one I've had to replace due to power cuts etc, and the Electric
> company say that they're not responsible for any damage caused. At over
?70
> a throw, buying new DG834GT's is getting to be an expensive hobby.
>
> So I'm thinking of investing in a UPS once the new router has arrived. I
> don't really know what I'm looking for in a UPS as the only ones I've seen
> are the huge ones at work that sit in the bottom of the racks. Ideally I'd
> like something smaller and less obtrusive as it has to go in the living
room
> at home. Does anyone have any recommendations?

APC (http://www.apcc.com) are one of big player on this side of the
pond. I don't have any personal experience with them, but a friend of
mine has one and recommends them.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jan  6 08:28:47 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:28:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS releases WMF patch early.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D1D930@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABF5C2@ADGSERVER>

You are welcome.  Came in this morning and Automatic Updates had already
downloaded it for installation.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:39 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS releases WMF patch early.


Thanks Bobby.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: 05 January 2006 20:54
> To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; 'Discussion of Hardware and 
> Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] MS releases WMF patch early.
> 
> 
> Found the info for all of the versions here: 
> http://bink.nu/Article5764.bink
> 
> The direct XP link is here:
> http://tinyurl.com/9mej3
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0c1b4
c96-57ae-499e-
b89b-215b7bb4d8e9&DisplayLang=en

Enjoy,
Bobby



From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Fri Jan  6 08:40:08 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:40:08 -0000 
Subject: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT]  Re:  UPS recommendations?
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845A0@ALCUXB>

Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll be doing some investigating... still a
week from payday though, so gives me some time to check them all out :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: 06 January 2006 14:28
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: UPS recommendations?


I'll second the APC line.  Not the most inexpensive, but great customer
service.  If you are going to connect other costly items to the UPS, I'd try
and get one that has AVR (automatic voltage regulation) on it.  Some of the
APC towers look nice and are relatively thin.

I have these in use at my house:
PC: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1000
I have only the PC on this so that I can get a better run time
Monitor, router, printers: APC Back-UPS Pro 1100 (can't find on APC site
now).  They have then at Sam's
Misc equipment:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BE500U (2 of
these)
HDTV: A belkin 800 or 1000VA UPS with AVR (got a good price on this).

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:11 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
Importance: Low


On 06/01/06, Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> wrote:
> Got home last night to find that my ADSL modem/router was toast... This is
> the third one I've had to replace due to power cuts etc, and the Electric
> company say that they're not responsible for any damage caused. At over
?70
> a throw, buying new DG834GT's is getting to be an expensive hobby.
>
> So I'm thinking of investing in a UPS once the new router has arrived. I
> don't really know what I'm looking for in a UPS as the only ones I've seen
> are the huge ones at work that sit in the bottom of the racks. Ideally I'd
> like something smaller and less obtrusive as it has to go in the living
room
> at home. Does anyone have any recommendations?

APC (http://www.apcc.com) are one of big player on this side of the
pond. I don't have any personal experience with them, but a friend of
mine has one and recommends them.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com

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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jan  6 08:51:41 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:51:41 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8459D@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <008e01c612d0$b4ae57e0$7001a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Hi Jon,
I sell a lot of UPSs. I personally have dealt with 5 brands. I have the APC
RS 1500 with extra battery pack for my network along with an older Triplite
model. Last year I put in a number of APCs, Triplite, Monster Power, and
Belkin units of various sizes.

I'm fairly disgusted with APC at this point. You pay top dollar for them
(because they are the big dogs in UPS) and the batteries do not seem to last
which is why I ended up getting the extra battery pack for my RS1500. It was
only a year and the main batteries had gone belly up. Previous to the RS1500
I had a different APC Smart UPS and the batteries went dead before 4 years
but cost so much to replace that I just bought the new unit. On the other
hand I've got one unit 750W on a client site that?s about 1 year old. I
checked the logs for it last week and it had handled 72 power events! Mostly
line noise but a few brown outs too. So it is holding up well. I used to use
them years ago in my former job and didn't have much problem with them
either, maybe I just get all the APC lemons in my office! I haven't been too
impressed with their customer support as of late.

My Triplite (they are one of the top UPS companies also) is 6 years old and
had to temporarily take over for it (which it isn't made for). But generally
the other smaller Triplites don't seem to hold up well. I've had a handful
go out due to power events. That is their job but it seems they get damaged
easier than the others. My supplier warned me that they do not honor their
warranties well but I have not had to deal with that so I have no personal
experience with their customer support

The Monster Power units were smaller ones that I got lot of them for a one
shot, good deal and passed on to my clients for their PCs. They have done
real well. One failed within a couple of weeks and they replaced it for
free. The replacement blew out a few weeks ago from a major power event. It
is in the home of one of the employees where I set all the other units up.
Its kind of a country home with poor power so the fact that one went bad and
the other blew already is real indicative of anything being wrong with them
per say. And, that's a UPSs job - sacrificing themselves for the sake of the
equipment! The majority of them are on a small network (all PCs have one)
where the power supply is very poor due to the florescent lights being old -
they buzz all the time and they're unwilling to replace them - its an awful
place to work. The UPS units have an alarm that I can't turn off (some
models allow that) and it chirps about every 10-20 minutes. At first the
staff called and said there was something wrong with them until I explained
it. They have been working under those conditions for about 2 years. Their
customer support was good.

I have been impressed with the Belkin units, which I originally were wary
of. My supplier recommended them and after some discussion, took his word on
it I have an entire small business running on them for a year now and
haven't had a single incident. All the PCs have a IIRC 650W unit and the
server has a bigger one that give it a half hour runtime in a power outage.
One of the things my supplier (who is also a consultant - he runs a couple
of businesses) said was that their customer support is good, I have dealt
with it personally though.

The monitoring/auto-shutdown software for all of them are similar and come
with the units.  Also some of the better units have AVR (automatic voltage
regulation). The Belkin units and some of the APC units I have out there do.

I never thought I'd say this but at this point I'd recommend the Belkin
units. Make sure you get one bigger with more Wattage output than what you
think you need. And study up on "Joules" a bit before proceeding.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:55 AM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?

Got home last night to find that my ADSL modem/router was toast... This is
the third one I've had to replace due to power cuts etc, and the Electric
company say that they're not responsible for any damage caused. At over ?70
a throw, buying new DG834GT's is getting to be an expensive hobby.
 
So I'm thinking of investing in a UPS once the new router has arrived. I
don't really know what I'm looking for in a UPS as the only ones I've seen
are the huge ones at work that sit in the bottom of the racks. Ideally I'd
like something smaller and less obtrusive as it has to go in the living room
at home. Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
Thanks
 
 
Jon


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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Fri Jan  6 09:12:20 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:12:20 -0000 
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845A1@ALCUXB>

Belkin it is then, thanks a lot John :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 06 January 2006 14:52
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?


Hi Jon,
I sell a lot of UPSs. I personally have dealt with 5 brands. I have the APC
RS 1500 with extra battery pack for my network along with an older Triplite
model. Last year I put in a number of APCs, Triplite, Monster Power, and
Belkin units of various sizes.

I'm fairly disgusted with APC at this point. You pay top dollar for them
(because they are the big dogs in UPS) and the batteries do not seem to last
which is why I ended up getting the extra battery pack for my RS1500. It was
only a year and the main batteries had gone belly up. Previous to the RS1500
I had a different APC Smart UPS and the batteries went dead before 4 years
but cost so much to replace that I just bought the new unit. On the other
hand I've got one unit 750W on a client site that's about 1 year old. I
checked the logs for it last week and it had handled 72 power events! Mostly
line noise but a few brown outs too. So it is holding up well. I used to use
them years ago in my former job and didn't have much problem with them
either, maybe I just get all the APC lemons in my office! I haven't been too
impressed with their customer support as of late.

My Triplite (they are one of the top UPS companies also) is 6 years old and
had to temporarily take over for it (which it isn't made for). But generally
the other smaller Triplites don't seem to hold up well. I've had a handful
go out due to power events. That is their job but it seems they get damaged
easier than the others. My supplier warned me that they do not honor their
warranties well but I have not had to deal with that so I have no personal
experience with their customer support

The Monster Power units were smaller ones that I got lot of them for a one
shot, good deal and passed on to my clients for their PCs. They have done
real well. One failed within a couple of weeks and they replaced it for
free. The replacement blew out a few weeks ago from a major power event. It
is in the home of one of the employees where I set all the other units up.
Its kind of a country home with poor power so the fact that one went bad and
the other blew already is real indicative of anything being wrong with them
per say. And, that's a UPSs job - sacrificing themselves for the sake of the
equipment! The majority of them are on a small network (all PCs have one)
where the power supply is very poor due to the florescent lights being old -
they buzz all the time and they're unwilling to replace them - its an awful
place to work. The UPS units have an alarm that I can't turn off (some
models allow that) and it chirps about every 10-20 minutes. At first the
staff called and said there was something wrong with them until I explained
it. They have been working under those conditions for about 2 years. Their
customer support was good.

I have been impressed with the Belkin units, which I originally were wary
of. My supplier recommended them and after some discussion, took his word on
it I have an entire small business running on them for a year now and
haven't had a single incident. All the PCs have a IIRC 650W unit and the
server has a bigger one that give it a half hour runtime in a power outage.
One of the things my supplier (who is also a consultant - he runs a couple
of businesses) said was that their customer support is good, I have dealt
with it personally though.

The monitoring/auto-shutdown software for all of them are similar and come
with the units.  Also some of the better units have AVR (automatic voltage
regulation). The Belkin units and some of the APC units I have out there do.

I never thought I'd say this but at this point I'd recommend the Belkin
units. Make sure you get one bigger with more Wattage output than what you
think you need. And study up on "Joules" a bit before proceeding.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:55 AM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?

Got home last night to find that my ADSL modem/router was toast... This is
the third one I've had to replace due to power cuts etc, and the Electric
company say that they're not responsible for any damage caused. At over ?70
a throw, buying new DG834GT's is getting to be an expensive hobby.
 
So I'm thinking of investing in a UPS once the new router has arrived. I
don't really know what I'm looking for in a UPS as the only ones I've seen
are the huge ones at work that sit in the bottom of the racks. Ideally I'd
like something smaller and less obtrusive as it has to go in the living room
at home. Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
Thanks
 
 
Jon


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From fahooper at trapo.com  Fri Jan  6 09:38:52 2006
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:38:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC8459D@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <001c01c612d7$4ca83b00$2e01a8c0@fredxp>

If it's the physical damage that outages cause and not the outages
themselves, you just need a better surge protector. Unfortunately, most of
them rely on MOV's which are progressively destroyed as they do their job,
thus the unit that contains them "wears out".

I use a Brick Wall (www.brickwall.com) surge protector for my computer (and
a different model for an audio system). Previous to using one in
outage/spike-prone Atlanta my son had to reprogram his AV Preamp almost
every week. It's now been two years without needing to reprogram.

They're expensive ($175+ USD) but you only have to buy them once.

When I get a UPS for my computer I'll put it behind the Brick Wall.

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:55 AM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?

Got home last night to find that my ADSL modem/router was toast... This is
the third one I've had to replace due to power cuts etc, and the Electric
company say that they're not responsible for any damage caused. At over ?70
a throw, buying new DG834GT's is getting to be an expensive hobby.
 
So I'm thinking of investing in a UPS once the new router has arrived. I
don't really know what I'm looking for in a UPS as the only ones I've seen
are the huge ones at work that sit in the bottom of the racks. Ideally I'd
like something smaller and less obtrusive as it has to go in the living room
at home. Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
Thanks
 
 
Jon


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From djkr at msn.com  Fri Jan  6 09:53:48 2006
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:53:48 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845A1@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV120355CA4D3B743E6BD89AD2210@phx.gbl>

Mine is a Belkin (UK) - Universal 1200VA.  Handles two PCs, 19" monitor etc,
with zero hassle, orderly close-down, event log, history etc.  Chose it a
couple of years back after doing a *lot* of reading/research (and rejecting
APC).  The current model has AVR too.

Good to hear John Bartow's professional views supporting my limited, amateur
experience!

Yes, get the biggest you can afford, then forget about it.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: 06 January 2006 15:12
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?


Belkin it is then, thanks a lot John :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 06 January 2006 14:52
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?


Hi Jon,
I sell a lot of UPSs. I personally have dealt with 5 brands. I have the APC
RS 1500 with extra battery pack for my network along with an older Triplite
model. Last year I put in a number of APCs, Triplite, Monster Power, and
Belkin units of various sizes.

I'm fairly disgusted with APC at this point. You pay top dollar for them
(because they are the big dogs in UPS) and the batteries do not seem to last
which is why I ended up getting the extra battery pack for my RS1500. It was
only a year and the main batteries had gone belly up. Previous to the RS1500
I had a different APC Smart UPS and the batteries went dead before 4 years
but cost so much to replace that I just bought the new unit. On the other
hand I've got one unit 750W on a client site that's about 1 year old. I
checked the logs for it last week and it had handled 72 power events! Mostly
line noise but a few brown outs too. So it is holding up well. I used to use
them years ago in my former job and didn't have much problem with them
either, maybe I just get all the APC lemons in my office! I haven't been too
impressed with their customer support as of late.

My Triplite (they are one of the top UPS companies also) is 6 years old and
had to temporarily take over for it (which it isn't made for). But generally
the other smaller Triplites don't seem to hold up well. I've had a handful
go out due to power events. That is their job but it seems they get damaged
easier than the others. My supplier warned me that they do not honor their
warranties well but I have not had to deal with that so I have no personal
experience with their customer support

The Monster Power units were smaller ones that I got lot of them for a one
shot, good deal and passed on to my clients for their PCs. They have done
real well. One failed within a couple of weeks and they replaced it for
free. The replacement blew out a few weeks ago from a major power event. It
is in the home of one of the employees where I set all the other units up.
Its kind of a country home with poor power so the fact that one went bad and
the other blew already is real indicative of anything being wrong with them
per say. And, that's a UPSs job - sacrificing themselves for the sake of the
equipment! The majority of them are on a small network (all PCs have one)
where the power supply is very poor due to the florescent lights being old -
they buzz all the time and they're unwilling to replace them - its an awful
place to work. The UPS units have an alarm that I can't turn off (some
models allow that) and it chirps about every 10-20 minutes. At first the
staff called and said there was something wrong with them until I explained
it. They have been working under those conditions for about 2 years. Their
customer support was good.

I have been impressed with the Belkin units, which I originally were wary
of. My supplier recommended them and after some discussion, took his word on
it I have an entire small business running on them for a year now and
haven't had a single incident. All the PCs have a IIRC 650W unit and the
server has a bigger one that give it a half hour runtime in a power outage.
One of the things my supplier (who is also a consultant - he runs a couple
of businesses) said was that their customer support is good, I have dealt
with it personally though.

The monitoring/auto-shutdown software for all of them are similar and come
with the units.  Also some of the better units have AVR (automatic voltage
regulation). The Belkin units and some of the APC units I have out there do.

I never thought I'd say this but at this point I'd recommend the Belkin
units. Make sure you get one bigger with more Wattage output than what you
think you need. And study up on "Joules" a bit before proceeding.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:55 AM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?

Got home last night to find that my ADSL modem/router was toast... This is
the third one I've had to replace due to power cuts etc, and the Electric
company say that they're not responsible for any damage caused. At over ?70
a throw, buying new DG834GT's is getting to be an expensive hobby.
 
So I'm thinking of investing in a UPS once the new router has arrived. I
don't really know what I'm looking for in a UPS as the only ones I've seen
are the huge ones at work that sit in the bottom of the racks. Ideally I'd
like something smaller and less obtrusive as it has to go in the living room
at home. Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
Thanks
 
 
Jon


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From djkr at msn.com  Fri Jan  6 10:33:16 2006
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:33:16 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV120355CA4D3B743E6BD89AD2210@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV220815E329384A516B84D6D2210@phx.gbl>

Should have said: shop around for price.  Misco, ebuyer, Watford, dabs look
OK.
J


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 06 January 2006 15:54
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] UPS recommendations?


Mine is a Belkin (UK) - Universal 1200VA.  Handles two PCs, 19" monitor etc,
with zero hassle, orderly close-down, event log, history etc.  Chose it a
couple of years back after doing a *lot* of reading/research (and rejecting
APC).  The current model has AVR too.

Good to hear John Bartow's professional views supporting my limited, amateur
experience!

Yes, get the biggest you can afford, then forget about it.

John
<---- snip ---->


From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jan  6 12:57:51 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:57:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dammit!
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC84591@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <200601061857.k06IvsV08381@databaseadvisors.com>

Since buying my first LaCie drive, I have not turned back.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: January 5, 2006 11:39 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dammit!

Maxtor are about the only drives I've not had die on me... I've lost
Seagates (had three DOA), IBM's, WD and Fujitsu... Maxtor's are all I've
bought for the last 5 years for me, for work, and for other people. These
are all IDE/SATA drives, for servers at work we HAVE to use the HP SCSI
drives.


Jon



From jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com  Sun Jan  8 10:24:14 2006
From: jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John Colby)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:24:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sensing email items in an outlook folder
Message-ID: <001f01c6146f$f79acac0$8ad60e05@ColbyM6805>

The following code was working in an Access project for sensing messages in
a folder and processing the email.  I am trying to build a little
application for preparing my spam to be sent off to BlueFrog for reporting.
The code is not working from directly inside of Outlook.  The code gets
here, but the Items collection never contains anything, even when there is
email in the folder.  Any ideas?

Function CheckForSpamMail(fldrSpamIncoming As Outlook.MAPIFolder) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_CheckForSpamMail
Dim msg As Outlook.MailItem
    Debug.Print fldrSpamIncoming.Name
    For Each msg In fldrSpamIncoming.Items
        Debug.Print "CheckForSpamMail - Processing message #" & intMsgCnt; "
of " & fldrSpamIncoming.Items.Count
        ProcessSpamMail fldrSpamIncoming, msg
    Next msg
'    intMsgCntOrig = fldrSpamIncoming.Items.Count
'    For intMsgCnt = 1 To intMsgCntOrig
'        Set msg = fldrSpamIncoming.Items(1)
'        Debug.Print "CheckForSpamMail - Processing message #" & intMsgCnt;
" of " & fldrSpamIncoming.Items.Count
'        ProcessSpamMail fldrSpamIncoming, msg
'    Next intMsgCnt
    
Exit_CheckForSpamMail:
On Error Resume Next
    Set msg = Nothing
Exit Function
Err_CheckForSpamMail:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case -2147352567 'No messages
        Resume Exit_CheckForSpamMail
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Number & ":" & Err.Description, , "Error in Function
dclsOutlook.CheckForSpamMail"
        Resume Exit_CheckForSpamMail
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Tue Jan 10 08:54:38 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:54:38 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845BC@ALCUXB>

Had some problems last night...
 
I turned my pc on, fired up Trillian, Outlook and Zmud, and waited a few
seconds for them to appear. Trillian and Zmud opened pretty quickly, and I
noticed that Outlook hadn't appeared. So I clicked the icon again, and a
message box appeared saying "Outlook failed to open correctly last time,
would you like to start in safe mode?" So I clicked no, and waited. Nothing.
I clicked it again, got the same error message and clicked on yes this time.
Again nothing happened. Then it asked if I'd like to do a detect and repair,
which I agreed to. The detect and repair started up, and failed halfway
through as it claimed to need the installation cd's, despite having the
install files on the hard drive...
 
It was at this point I got suspicious, and opened Internet Explorer to look
for information on a possible virus. IE closed about 2 seconds after
opening. So I opened McAfee virus scan in a vain attempt to scan my pc.
McAfee closed about a second after the splash screen appeared.
 
Fortunately, I had a copy of Stinger on my desk top, so I started that and
was relieved to see that it stayed open, although in the end, it didn't find
anything. Trend Micro's Sysclean didn't find anything either.
 
Sunday night I had run Spybot, Ad-Aware, Giant, and SpySweeper, as well as
diskcleanup and defrag, and had updated Windows to include the WMF patch on
Friday. The only thing I hadn't run was Trojan Hunter, so I started that up
and waited for it to disappear. It didn't. So I updated it, and ran a full
scan. This eventually picked up a file called "autoload.exe" and named it as
"Runner.100". I can't find information about this infection anywhere, but
removing it let me run Outlook and IE again, so I'm kinda pleased.
 
I am a little troubled at how easily my pc got infected despite having good
anti-virus software, lots of anti-spyware software, Zonealarm and the
hardware firewall in my router.
 
But I can thoroughly recommend Mischel's Trojan Hunter 4.2, available from
http://www.trojanhunter.com/ <http://www.trojanhunter.com/> 
 
 
Jon


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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jan 10 10:16:02 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:16:02 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845BC@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <000001c61601$27c0e850$7801a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Jon,
Good catch! It must be very new as I can't find any information on it
(including Trojan Hunter info). Have you found anything about how it was
delivered? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:55 AM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan

Had some problems last night...
 
I turned my pc on, fired up Trillian, Outlook and Zmud, and waited a few
seconds for them to appear. Trillian and Zmud opened pretty quickly, and I
noticed that Outlook hadn't appeared. So I clicked the icon again, and a
message box appeared saying "Outlook failed to open correctly last time,
would you like to start in safe mode?" So I clicked no, and waited. Nothing.
I clicked it again, got the same error message and clicked on yes this time.
Again nothing happened. Then it asked if I'd like to do a detect and repair,
which I agreed to. The detect and repair started up, and failed halfway
through as it claimed to need the installation cd's, despite having the
install files on the hard drive...
 
It was at this point I got suspicious, and opened Internet Explorer to look
for information on a possible virus. IE closed about 2 seconds after
opening. So I opened McAfee virus scan in a vain attempt to scan my pc.
McAfee closed about a second after the splash screen appeared.
 
Fortunately, I had a copy of Stinger on my desk top, so I started that and
was relieved to see that it stayed open, although in the end, it didn't find
anything. Trend Micro's Sysclean didn't find anything either.
 
Sunday night I had run Spybot, Ad-Aware, Giant, and SpySweeper, as well as
diskcleanup and defrag, and had updated Windows to include the WMF patch on
Friday. The only thing I hadn't run was Trojan Hunter, so I started that up
and waited for it to disappear. It didn't. So I updated it, and ran a full
scan. This eventually picked up a file called "autoload.exe" and named it as
"Runner.100". I can't find information about this infection anywhere, but
removing it let me run Outlook and IE again, so I'm kinda pleased.
 
I am a little troubled at how easily my pc got infected despite having good
anti-virus software, lots of anti-spyware software, Zonealarm and the
hardware firewall in my router.
 
But I can thoroughly recommend Mischel's Trojan Hunter 4.2, available from
http://www.trojanhunter.com/ <http://www.trojanhunter.com/> 
 
 
Jon


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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Tue Jan 10 10:27:01 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:27:01 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845C0@ALCUXB>

Not a clue, but I'm hoping that the av companies start including it in their
updates, as it's a right pain to get rid of.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 10 January 2006 16:16
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan


Jon,
Good catch! It must be very new as I can't find any information on it
(including Trojan Hunter info). Have you found anything about how it was
delivered? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:55 AM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan

Had some problems last night...
 
I turned my pc on, fired up Trillian, Outlook and Zmud, and waited a few
seconds for them to appear. Trillian and Zmud opened pretty quickly, and I
noticed that Outlook hadn't appeared. So I clicked the icon again, and a
message box appeared saying "Outlook failed to open correctly last time,
would you like to start in safe mode?" So I clicked no, and waited. Nothing.
I clicked it again, got the same error message and clicked on yes this time.
Again nothing happened. Then it asked if I'd like to do a detect and repair,
which I agreed to. The detect and repair started up, and failed halfway
through as it claimed to need the installation cd's, despite having the
install files on the hard drive...
 
It was at this point I got suspicious, and opened Internet Explorer to look
for information on a possible virus. IE closed about 2 seconds after
opening. So I opened McAfee virus scan in a vain attempt to scan my pc.
McAfee closed about a second after the splash screen appeared.
 
Fortunately, I had a copy of Stinger on my desk top, so I started that and
was relieved to see that it stayed open, although in the end, it didn't find
anything. Trend Micro's Sysclean didn't find anything either.
 
Sunday night I had run Spybot, Ad-Aware, Giant, and SpySweeper, as well as
diskcleanup and defrag, and had updated Windows to include the WMF patch on
Friday. The only thing I hadn't run was Trojan Hunter, so I started that up
and waited for it to disappear. It didn't. So I updated it, and ran a full
scan. This eventually picked up a file called "autoload.exe" and named it as
"Runner.100". I can't find information about this infection anywhere, but
removing it let me run Outlook and IE again, so I'm kinda pleased.
 
I am a little troubled at how easily my pc got infected despite having good
anti-virus software, lots of anti-spyware software, Zonealarm and the
hardware firewall in my router.
 
But I can thoroughly recommend Mischel's Trojan Hunter 4.2, available from
http://www.trojanhunter.com/ <http://www.trojanhunter.com/> 
 
 
Jon


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From lyle.hannum at co.wake.nc.us  Tue Jan 10 10:46:20 2006
From: lyle.hannum at co.wake.nc.us (lyle.hannum at co.wake.nc.us)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:46:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
In-Reply-To: <000001c61601$27c0e850$7801a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <OF0C8F9747.5320DA48-ON852570F2.005C1196-852570F2.005C2249@co.wake.nc.us>

zmud! excellent taste you have!

Lyle (long time mudder)



From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Tue Jan 10 10:53:12 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:53:12 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845C3@ALCUXB>

I've been mudding for 8 years or so now... can't understand what all these
graphics junkies are on about sometimes :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: lyle.hannum at co.wake.nc.us [mailto:lyle.hannum at co.wake.nc.us]
Sent: 10 January 2006 16:46
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan


zmud! excellent taste you have!

Lyle (long time mudder)

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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jan 10 23:35:38 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:35:38 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845C0@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <000801c61670$dc37caf0$7901a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

I thought I ran into your trojan tonight. I was working on a PC and cleaning
the typical junk off the desktop. I ran into this:
http://www.winhaven.net/security/ScreenShot.html

To the right you'll see a small quais-icon (scroll down and there's a blow
up of it beneath the large image)

If I clicked on it I could see that it had the image boundaries the same as
a typical icon but when clicked it would not do anything, I could get no
short cut menu form it when right clicking (got themenu for the desktop) and
I could not select it.

Anyone ever see anything that looked like that?

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:27 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan

Not a clue, but I'm hoping that the av companies start including it in their
updates, as it's a right pain to get rid of.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 10 January 2006 16:16
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan


Jon,
Good catch! It must be very new as I can't find any information on it
(including Trojan Hunter info). Have you found anything about how it was
delivered? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:55 AM
To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan

Had some problems last night...
 
I turned my pc on, fired up Trillian, Outlook and Zmud, and waited a few
seconds for them to appear. Trillian and Zmud opened pretty quickly, and I
noticed that Outlook hadn't appeared. So I clicked the icon again, and a
message box appeared saying "Outlook failed to open correctly last time,
would you like to start in safe mode?" So I clicked no, and waited. Nothing.
I clicked it again, got the same error message and clicked on yes this time.
Again nothing happened. Then it asked if I'd like to do a detect and repair,
which I agreed to. The detect and repair started up, and failed halfway
through as it claimed to need the installation cd's, despite having the
install files on the hard drive...
 
It was at this point I got suspicious, and opened Internet Explorer to look
for information on a possible virus. IE closed about 2 seconds after
opening. So I opened McAfee virus scan in a vain attempt to scan my pc.
McAfee closed about a second after the splash screen appeared.
 
Fortunately, I had a copy of Stinger on my desk top, so I started that and
was relieved to see that it stayed open, although in the end, it didn't find
anything. Trend Micro's Sysclean didn't find anything either.
 
Sunday night I had run Spybot, Ad-Aware, Giant, and SpySweeper, as well as
diskcleanup and defrag, and had updated Windows to include the WMF patch on
Friday. The only thing I hadn't run was Trojan Hunter, so I started that up
and waited for it to disappear. It didn't. So I updated it, and ran a full
scan. This eventually picked up a file called "autoload.exe" and named it as
"Runner.100". I can't find information about this infection anywhere, but
removing it let me run Outlook and IE again, so I'm kinda pleased.
 
I am a little troubled at how easily my pc got infected despite having good
anti-virus software, lots of anti-spyware software, Zonealarm and the
hardware firewall in my router.
 
But I can thoroughly recommend Mischel's Trojan Hunter 4.2, available from
http://www.trojanhunter.com/ <http://www.trojanhunter.com/> 
 
 
Jon


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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Wed Jan 11 03:36:24 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:36:24 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845C8@ALCUXB>

That's not my trojan, there wre no icons with mine. It was hidden in the
picture viewer part of Program files, in the Ulead folder.

I did some more checking last night, seems that the rules update for Trojan
Hunter which included that trojan were updated in June 2001, so it's fairly
old, yet I still can't find any informatin about it anywhere.

And thinking about it, I was wandering around some sites on Sunday night
looking for extra maps and downloads for Warhammer 40k Dawn of War, so I
might have picked it up there. They were the only sites I visited that were
outside the ones I regularly look at.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 11 January 2006 05:36
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan


I thought I ran into your trojan tonight. I was working on a PC and cleaning
the typical junk off the desktop. I ran into this:
http://www.winhaven.net/security/ScreenShot.html

To the right you'll see a small quais-icon (scroll down and there's a blow
up of it beneath the large image)

If I clicked on it I could see that it had the image boundaries the same as
a typical icon but when clicked it would not do anything, I could get no
short cut menu form it when right clicking (got themenu for the desktop) and
I could not select it.

Anyone ever see anything that looked like that?

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:27 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan

Not a clue, but I'm hoping that the av companies start including it in their
updates, as it's a right pain to get rid of.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 10 January 2006 16:16
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan


Jon,
Good catch! It must be very new as I can't find any information on it
(including Trojan Hunter info). Have you found anything about how it was
delivered? 


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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Wed Jan 11 07:09:12 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:09:12 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
References: <000801c61670$dc37caf0$7901a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <005501c616b0$3847e9d0$1400a8c0@v1000>

John,
did you check the folder Desktop - also for 'All Users' and 'Default User'?
any (hidden) file there that could cause it?

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan


>I thought I ran into your trojan tonight. I was working on a PC and 
>cleaning
> the typical junk off the desktop. I ran into this:
> http://www.winhaven.net/security/ScreenShot.html
>
> To the right you'll see a small quais-icon (scroll down and there's a blow
> up of it beneath the large image)
>
> If I clicked on it I could see that it had the image boundaries the same 
> as
> a typical icon but when clicked it would not do anything, I could get no
> short cut menu form it when right clicking (got themenu for the desktop) 
> and
> I could not select it.
>
> Anyone ever see anything that looked like that?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:27 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
>
> Not a clue, but I'm hoping that the av companies start including it in 
> their
> updates, as it's a right pain to get rid of.
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: 10 January 2006 16:16
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
>
>
> Jon,
> Good catch! It must be very new as I can't find any information on it
> (including Trojan Hunter info). Have you found anything about how it was
> delivered?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:55 AM
> To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
>
> Had some problems last night...
>
> I turned my pc on, fired up Trillian, Outlook and Zmud, and waited a few
> seconds for them to appear. Trillian and Zmud opened pretty quickly, and I
> noticed that Outlook hadn't appeared. So I clicked the icon again, and a
> message box appeared saying "Outlook failed to open correctly last time,
> would you like to start in safe mode?" So I clicked no, and waited. 
> Nothing.
> I clicked it again, got the same error message and clicked on yes this 
> time.
> Again nothing happened. Then it asked if I'd like to do a detect and 
> repair,
> which I agreed to. The detect and repair started up, and failed halfway
> through as it claimed to need the installation cd's, despite having the
> install files on the hard drive...
>
> It was at this point I got suspicious, and opened Internet Explorer to 
> look
> for information on a possible virus. IE closed about 2 seconds after
> opening. So I opened McAfee virus scan in a vain attempt to scan my pc.
> McAfee closed about a second after the splash screen appeared.
>
> Fortunately, I had a copy of Stinger on my desk top, so I started that and
> was relieved to see that it stayed open, although in the end, it didn't 
> find
> anything. Trend Micro's Sysclean didn't find anything either.
>
> Sunday night I had run Spybot, Ad-Aware, Giant, and SpySweeper, as well as
> diskcleanup and defrag, and had updated Windows to include the WMF patch 
> on
> Friday. The only thing I hadn't run was Trojan Hunter, so I started that 
> up
> and waited for it to disappear. It didn't. So I updated it, and ran a full
> scan. This eventually picked up a file called "autoload.exe" and named it 
> as
> "Runner.100". I can't find information about this infection anywhere, but
> removing it let me run Outlook and IE again, so I'm kinda pleased.
>
> I am a little troubled at how easily my pc got infected despite having 
> good
> anti-virus software, lots of anti-spyware software, Zonealarm and the
> hardware firewall in my router.
>
> But I can thoroughly recommend Mischel's Trojan Hunter 4.2, available from
> http://www.trojanhunter.com/ <http://www.trojanhunter.com/>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
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> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 
> 10.01.2006
> 



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jan 11 07:59:45 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:59:45 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?
Message-ID: <000201c616b7$478b8530$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Any recommendations on a freeware/shareware program to manage or remove
Add-Ons from Internet Explorer.  I've got multiple versions of the same ones
along with some unexplained IE 'stumbling'.

Thanks!
Dan




From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Wed Jan 11 08:21:21 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:21:21 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845D7@ALCUXB>

Spybot does that kind thing, as well as Microsoft's Anti-Spyware. If you've
got Win XP Pro SP2, I think there's also the option to manage the add-ins as
well.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: 11 January 2006 14:00
To: DBA-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?


Any recommendations on a freeware/shareware program to manage or remove
Add-Ons from Internet Explorer.  I've got multiple versions of the same ones
along with some unexplained IE 'stumbling'.

Thanks!
Dan


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From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jan 11 09:24:55 2006
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:24:55 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?
In-Reply-To: <000201c616b7$478b8530$0200a8c0@danwaters>
References: <000201c616b7$478b8530$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a0601110724t218bfb6bo47d930a659f7614@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/11/06, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> Any recommendations on a freeware/shareware program to manage or remove
> Add-Ons from Internet Explorer.  I've got multiple versions of the same ones
> along with some unexplained IE 'stumbling'.

Best program I've found to remove things from IE is HijackThis.

http://www.download.com/HijackThis/3000-8022_4-10227353.html

Doesn't remove the files from your hard drive, but lets you clean just
about anything out of IE and certain system settings that shouldn't be
there.

--
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jan 11 09:31:46 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:31:46 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845D7@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <007701c616c4$22ce8a00$7901a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

The three I use. Plus CounterSpy (which is similar to MSAS).

IMO Spybot S&D is the easiest one to use. IE's add-in mgr does allow you to
disable them without deleting them so you could go in and disable anything
you want and check the results (always restart IE after doing that).

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:21 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?

Spybot does that kind thing, as well as Microsoft's Anti-Spyware. If you've
got Win XP Pro SP2, I think there's also the option to manage the add-ins as
well.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: 11 January 2006 14:00
To: DBA-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?


Any recommendations on a freeware/shareware program to manage or remove
Add-Ons from Internet Explorer.  I've got multiple versions of the same ones
along with some unexplained IE 'stumbling'.

Thanks!
Dan


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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jan 11 09:34:57 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:34:57 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a0601110724t218bfb6bo47d930a659f7614@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007b01c616c4$942d36b0$7901a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Can you get that for free now or is there a free trial period with full
functionality? I always thought one had to buy it outright so I've never
tested it.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane

Best program I've found to remove things from IE is HijackThis.

http://www.download.com/HijackThis/3000-8022_4-10227353.html

Doesn't remove the files from your hard drive, but lets you clean just about
anything out of IE and certain system settings that shouldn't be there.



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jan 11 10:27:34 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:27:34 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?
In-Reply-To: <007b01c616c4$942d36b0$7901a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <53c8e05a0601110724t218bfb6bo47d930a659f7614@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43C5BE96.12300.5EB2A43@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

HijackThis is totally freeware. The authors homepage is here:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/index.html

On 11 Jan 2006 at 9:34, John Bartow wrote:

> Can you get that for free now or is there a free trial period with full
> functionality? I always thought one had to buy it outright so I've never
> tested it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
> 
> Best program I've found to remove things from IE is HijackThis.
> 
> http://www.download.com/HijackThis/3000-8022_4-10227353.html
> 
> Doesn't remove the files from your hard drive, but lets you clean just about
> anything out of IE and certain system settings that shouldn't be there.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

-- 
Stuart




From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jan 11 10:37:05 2006
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:37:05 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?
In-Reply-To: <43C5BE96.12300.5EB2A43@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <53c8e05a0601110724t218bfb6bo47d930a659f7614@mail.gmail.com>
	<007b01c616c4$942d36b0$7901a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
	<43C5BE96.12300.5EB2A43@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a0601110837m705603fasf65d20e99e6b1ac5@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/11/06, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> HijackThis is totally freeware. The authors homepage is here:
> http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/index.html

And to add a little more info, HijackThis is stand-alone software.
Download the exe, run it, copy it to a floppy, use it where-ever you
want, no hassle!
--
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jan 11 12:52:14 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:52:14 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove Add-Ons from IE?
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a0601110837m705603fasf65d20e99e6b1ac5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b701c616e0$23edf300$7901a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Great! Thanks for the info guys. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane


On 1/11/06, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> HijackThis is totally freeware. The authors homepage is here:
> http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/index.html

And to add a little more info, HijackThis is stand-alone software.
Download the exe, run it, copy it to a floppy, use it where-ever you want,
no hassle!



From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jan 11 17:52:26 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:52:26 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nasty little trojan
In-Reply-To: <005501c616b0$3847e9d0$1400a8c0@v1000>
Message-ID: <002c01c6170a$13cf1c90$7901a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

No, didn't check that. Good suggestion though - next time! But then again,
hopefully I never have to use it ;o) 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik

John,
did you check the folder Desktop - also for 'All Users' and 'Default User'?
any (hidden) file there that could cause it?

Lembit



From listmaster at databaseadvisors.com  Thu Jan 12 20:48:24 2006
From: listmaster at databaseadvisors.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:48:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Administrivia - DBA's New Executive Officers.
Message-ID: <43C6CEA8.24082.46E416@listmaster.databaseadvisors.com>

The Board of Directors of Database Advisors recently held elections 
for the executive committee for the upcoming year.

The Executive Officers for 2006 are:
President: John Bartow
Vice-President: Reuben Cummings
Secretary: Donna Cook
Treasurer: Keith Williamson

Congratulations to all.


-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - listmaster at databaseadvisors.com
Normal people worry me.




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jan 15 16:29:00 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:29:00 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] More on WMF Bug(?)
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC845BC@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <43CB594C.24487.D8E104D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

It's now looking like the WMF bug(?) is in fact a deliberate backdoor built 
into W2K and above.  Scary!

http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-022.htm

-- 
Stuart




From jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com  Mon Jan 16 14:15:31 2006
From: jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John Colby)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:15:31 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Ensuring FTP completion
Message-ID: <009901c61ad9$9c256680$647aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I am working on a system to FTP an MDB file to a web directory.  I need to
know that the file got there correctly.  Does anyone do this, and if so,
what tools do you use for the FTP up/down and how do you check to ensure
that the transfer completed?  I am going to need to do something like FTP up
under one name, then rename / delete the existing and rename the new to the
filename of the existing.  This has to be bulletproof though so I need to
know that it worked.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com  Mon Jan 16 14:26:08 2006
From: jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John Colby)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:26:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tying Outlook appointments into Access
Message-ID: <009a01c61adb$16a04500$647aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I have finally broken down and decided to make a major push to use outlook
appointments for scheduling my client work.  In order to make this work
however I need to be able to create the appointment in Outlook and have it
create a dummy billing (time) record in my billing database, and if I delete
or drag the edges of the appointment around, have it modify my billing
records.  I know how to automate outlook, get it instantiated and watch
events etc, but I have never fiddled with anything but messages and
attachments.  

Does anyone have example code for doing this kind of stuff, particularly the
"dragging of appointment times".  Done correctly I could make appointments,
then as the time comes to do the work, I could go in to the appointment and
fill in the work done right in outlook and have the data transferred to my
billing program.

Anyone?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 12:09:10 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:09:10 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Scaners
Message-ID: <e04a6c920601171009y782b1524o@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good quality scanner that will
handle photo negatives?

I'm looking to get one and it's been SOOOOO long since I've ever had
to deal with scanners that I don'tt even know where to start or what
to look for.

And if it works with Linux, all the better :-))

Thanks for any advice input,

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 13:31:46 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:31:46 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Scaners
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920601171009y782b1524o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e04a6c920601171009y782b1524o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950601171131m75dcc4a0j48240b3c60cd314d@mail.gmail.com>

I have an old HP 4100C that has served me well. It's only 600x600 DPI
though. Latest model HP's do 4800x9600 dpi.  Mine happens to be
recognised by Linux but the one I would buy now if I were shopping the
HP 4850 is NOT usable under Linux.

Here is a list of the scanners supported by the SANE Linux scanner
project (Scanning Access Now Easy)...

http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-mfgs-cvs.html

I've had good luck with HP printers and scanners and am biased towards
them because of that. Your results may differ ;-)

Good luck!

On 1/17/06, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good quality scanner that will
> handle photo negatives?
>
> I'm looking to get one and it's been SOOOOO long since I've ever had
> to deal with scanners that I don'tt even know where to start or what
> to look for.
>
> And if it works with Linux, all the better :-))
>
> Thanks for any advice input,
>
> --
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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>


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From bgeldart at verizon.net  Tue Jan 17 13:34:45 2006
From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:34:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Scaners
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920601171009y782b1524o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e04a6c920601171009y782b1524o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20060117140410.02c2b4e0@incoming.verizon.net>

Brian,

I've had an Epson Perfection 2450 for a couple of years and been pretty 
satisfied with it. It uses plastic masks for 2x2 slides and 35mm strips, 
plus 2?x3? and 3?x4? negatives or transparencies. There is a light source 
in the cover for working with negatives/transparencies. I think it cost me 
about $200 a couple or more years ago, has probably been superseded by 
newer model. Works well also for documents and photos. This flatbbed 
scanner is a good compromise between cost and utility. I have some older 
format (1940s-70s) larger format negatives I was interested in scanning.

Only minor gripe was that, scanner software looks for images when doing 
negs in the masks. Occasionally, a negative would not be a easily 
recognizable image, and the software would often provide an image cropped 
at one side or another. I was usually able to manipulate the mask or 
negative to obtain a better image.

The next step up for slides & negatives for me would probably be a 
dedicated slide/negative scanner at $500 and up, but they only do 35mm. I 
may do that, as I have thousands of slides and negatives taken over the 
last 49 years.

Bottom line, if my current scanner broke today, I would get a new Epson. 
Only question would be which model.

Bob

At 1/17/2006 01:09 PM, you wrote:
>Does anyone have a recommendation for a good quality scanner that will
>handle photo negatives?
>
>I'm looking to get one and it's been SOOOOO long since I've ever had
>to deal with scanners that I don'tt even know where to start or what
>to look for.
>
>And if it works with Linux, all the better :-))
>
>Thanks for any advice input,
>
>--
>Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
>Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
>preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>shouting "What a great ride!"
>_______________________________________________
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Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 21:18:24 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:18:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Scaners
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950601171131m75dcc4a0j48240b3c60cd314d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e04a6c920601171009y782b1524o@mail.gmail.com>
	<aea6c4950601171131m75dcc4a0j48240b3c60cd314d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920601171918se7b32f6p@mail.gmail.com>

On 17/01/06, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have an old HP 4100C that has served me well. It's only 600x600 DPI
> though. Latest model HP's do 4800x9600 dpi.  Mine happens to be
> recognised by Linux but the one I would buy now if I were shopping the
> HP 4850 is NOT usable under Linux.
>
> Here is a list of the scanners supported by the SANE Linux scanner
> project (Scanning Access Now Easy)...
>
> http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-mfgs-cvs.html

Thanks for this Gary, It looks like the motherlode of what scanner
works and doesn't in Linux. So it looks like some review reading and
comparing to the Sane list and see what comprimises I have to make.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 21:21:37 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:21:37 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Scaners
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20060117140410.02c2b4e0@incoming.verizon.net>
References: <e04a6c920601171009y782b1524o@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20060117140410.02c2b4e0@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920601171921g7180a2aer@mail.gmail.com>

On 17/01/06, Bob Geldart <bgeldart at verizon.net> wrote:

> I've had an Epson Perfection 2450 for a couple of years and been pretty
> satisfied with it. It uses plastic masks for 2x2 slides and 35mm strips,
> plus 2?x3? and 3?x4? negatives or transparencies. There is a light source
> in the cover for working with negatives/transparencies. I think it cost me
> about $200 a couple or more years ago, has probably been superseded by
> newer model. Works well also for documents and photos. This flatbbed
> scanner is a good compromise between cost and utility. I have some older
> format (1940s-70s) larger format negatives I was interested in scanning.

Thanks for this info Bob.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jan 17 21:46:13 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:46:13 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Scaners
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920601171921g7180a2aer@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00fc01c61be1$bb058310$6801a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Bryan,
My favorite scanner I've ever sold, setup or supported (and that's quite a
few over the years) was the Epson Perfection 610 Flatbed Scanner. I liked it
so much I got my mom one. That was 5 years ago and its still SWEET!

I have no idea if you can still get one or not and then if would work with
Linux is a big question too.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scaners

On 17/01/06, Bob Geldart <bgeldart at verizon.net> wrote:

> I've had an Epson Perfection 2450 for a couple of years and been 
> pretty satisfied with it. It uses plastic masks for 2x2 slides and 
> 35mm strips, plus 2?x3? and 3?x4? negatives or transparencies. There 
> is a light source in the cover for working with 
> negatives/transparencies. I think it cost me about $200 a couple or 
> more years ago, has probably been superseded by newer model. Works 
> well also for documents and photos. This flatbbed scanner is a good 
> compromise between cost and utility. I have some older format (1940s-70s)
larger format negatives I was interested in scanning.

Thanks for this info Bob.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jan 18 10:29:54 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:29:54 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
Message-ID: <43CE6D02.8020003@san.rr.com>

    Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  I 
don't find the help all that helpfull.

1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had 
that in the menu bar)
3) Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept 
text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?

The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.

MTIA

Rocky


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
From: 	dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com



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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Wed Jan 18 11:24:12 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:24:12 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC84658@ALCUXB>

Hi All
 
Got a weird one for you
 
I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either connected to
the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain ALCONTROLUK cannot be
found". Normally, if you can't get on to the network, it'll still log you on
with old cached credentials, providing you use the correct old password,
like laptops do when they're at home - this one won't.  
 
I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to expire it's IP
address or something, and I'm going to leave it a couple of days before I
plug it back in, but I was wondering if anyone had seen anything like it
before and could offer any suggestions?
 
Thanks
 
 
Jon


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ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited.
Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ.
Registered in England and Wales No 4057291


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jan 18 11:46:31 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:46:31 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
References: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC84658@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <43CE7EF7.1060807@shaw.ca>

Just a SWAG, but you could try to expire the DHCP lease

A lease is normally expired after three days of the client being off-
line (not renewing its lease).  You can also expire a lease manually
by issuing an...


  IPCONFIG /RELEASE


...command at the machine you want to expire.


DHCP Manager can be used to adjust the lease duration.


Jon Tydda wrote:

>Hi All
> 
>Got a weird one for you
> 
>I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either connected to
>the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain ALCONTROLUK cannot be
>found". Normally, if you can't get on to the network, it'll still log you on
>with old cached credentials, providing you use the correct old password,
>like laptops do when they're at home - this one won't.  
> 
>I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to expire it's IP
>address or something, and I'm going to leave it a couple of days before I
>plug it back in, but I was wondering if anyone had seen anything like it
>before and could offer any suggestions?
> 
>Thanks
> 
> 
>Jon
>
>
>The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally
>privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject
>to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk
>ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited.
>Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ.
>Registered in England and Wales No 4057291
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>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jan 18 12:52:53 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:52:53 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC84658@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <43CF1B25.8033.5D6F2F8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 18 Jan 2006 at 17:24, Jon Tydda wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> Got a weird one for you
> 
> I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either connected to
> the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain ALCONTROLUK cannot be
> found". Normally, if you can't get on to the network, it'll still log you on
> with old cached credentials, providing you use the correct old password,
> like laptops do when they're at home - this one won't.  
> 

What OS?  You need to log in to a local user account rather than a domain 
account.  There should be at least a local "administrator" account.

-- 
Stuart




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jan 18 13:01:58 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:01:58 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd:  [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]]
Message-ID: <43CE90A6.4060908@san.rr.com>


    Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  I 
don't find the help all that helpful.

1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had 
that in the menu bar)
3) Figured this one out myself-->Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept 
text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?

The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.

MTIA

Rocky


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
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To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com



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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 13:12:56 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:12:56 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] THUNDERBIRD HELP!!! - was: Welcome to the.....
Message-ID: <aea6c4950601181112q4d462bf8s131875cd57832c48@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps you should learn to change the subject of the message to get
some more responses ;-)

I'm primarily an Outlook user. And G-Mail. Sorry, can't help you.

GK

On 1/18/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>    Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  I
> don't find the help all that helpful.
>
> 1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
> 2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had
> that in the menu bar)
> 3) Figured this one out myself-->Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
> 4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept
> text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?
>
> The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:        Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
> Date:   Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
> From:   dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
> To:     bchacc at san.rr.com
>
>
>
> Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list
> is for the discussion of Hardware and Software related issues that
> don't belong into any specific list, but are still technical issues
> around the computer.
>
>
> To post to this list, send your email to:
>
>  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>
> General information about the mailing list is at:
>
>  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>
> If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to
> or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your
> subscription page at:
>
>  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/options/dba-tech/bchacc%40san.rr.com
>
>
> You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:
>
>  dba-Tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>
> with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the
> quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.
>
> You must know your password to change your options (including changing
> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
>
>  dakeimve
>
> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com mailing
> list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you
> prefer.  This reminder will also include instructions on how to
> unsubscribe or change your account options.  There is also a button on
> your options page that will email your current password to you.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jan 18 13:20:42 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:20:42 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] THUNDERBIRD HELP!!! - was: Welcome to the.....
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950601181112q4d462bf8s131875cd57832c48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aea6c4950601181112q4d462bf8s131875cd57832c48@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43CE950A.1070205@san.rr.com>

Oh, yeah, huh.

Rocky


Gary Kjos wrote:
> Perhaps you should learn to change the subject of the message to get
> some more responses ;-)
>
> I'm primarily an Outlook user. And G-Mail. Sorry, can't help you.
>
> GK
>
> On 1/18/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>   
>>    Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  I
>> don't find the help all that helpful.
>>
>> 1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
>> 2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had
>> that in the menu bar)
>> 3) Figured this one out myself-->Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
>> 4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept
>> text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?
>>
>> The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:        Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
>> Date:   Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
>> From:   dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>> To:     bchacc at san.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list
>> is for the discussion of Hardware and Software related issues that
>> don't belong into any specific list, but are still technical issues
>> around the computer.
>>
>>
>> To post to this list, send your email to:
>>
>>  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> General information about the mailing list is at:
>>
>>  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>
>> If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to
>> or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your
>> subscription page at:
>>
>>  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/options/dba-tech/bchacc%40san.rr.com
>>
>>
>> You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:
>>
>>  dba-Tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the
>> quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.
>>
>> You must know your password to change your options (including changing
>> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
>>
>>  dakeimve
>>
>> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com mailing
>> list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you
>> prefer.  This reminder will also include instructions on how to
>> unsubscribe or change your account options.  There is also a button on
>> your options page that will email your current password to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> 858-259-4334
>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
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>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> 858-259-4334
>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>     
>
>
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>
>   

-- 
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Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com



From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jan 18 13:28:56 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:28:56 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
In-Reply-To: <43CE6D02.8020003@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000301c61c65$6dfd76c0$6a01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

1) Multi-signatures per email address or one for each email address?

1a) If one per email address then: save a text file with your signature
block in it, then Tools | Acounts Settings | "attach this signature" and
browse to that file.

1b) If multiples for one address then I think you'll need to download and
install the extension called "signature" from
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=578&application=thunde
rbird 
then it is a simple right click function.

2) See 1b)

3) Tools | options | composition | check spelling before sending
4) Tools | options | composition | send options

One SPAM?! LUCKY! Mine has caught one or more every three minutes for the
last 2 years :o)

HTH
John B. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:30 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]

    Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  I
don't find the help all that helpfull.

1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had that
in the menu bar)
3) Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept text
and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?

The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.

MTIA

Rocky


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
From: 	dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com



Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list is for
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at:

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You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:

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with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and
you will get back a message with instructions.

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  dakeimve

Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com mailing list
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This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change
your account options.  There is also a button on your options page that will
email your current password to you.




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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Jan 18 13:47:57 2006
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:47:57 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <43CE7EF7.1060807@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <002201c61c68$147c3a20$0300a8c0@jt2>

I tried that, but I need to be able to log in, don't I? That's why I
unplugged it from the network, I know our leases are set at 3 days...


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: 18 January 2006 17:47
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem

Just a SWAG, but you could try to expire the DHCP lease

A lease is normally expired after three days of the client being off- line
(not renewing its lease).  You can also expire a lease manually by issuing
an...


  IPCONFIG /RELEASE


...command at the machine you want to expire.


DHCP Manager can be used to adjust the lease duration.


Jon Tydda wrote:

>Hi All
> 
>Got a weird one for you
> 
>I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either connected 
>to the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain ALCONTROLUK 
>cannot be found". Normally, if you can't get on to the network, it'll 
>still log you on with old cached credentials, providing you use the 
>correct old password, like laptops do when they're at home - this one
won't.
> 
>I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to expire 
>it's IP address or something, and I'm going to leave it a couple of 
>days before I plug it back in, but I was wondering if anyone had seen 
>anything like it before and could offer any suggestions?
> 
>Thanks
> 
> 
>Jon
>
>
>The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally 
>privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are 
>subject to the legal notice available on request from : 
>webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of
ALcontrol UK Limited.
>Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ.
>Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 
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>
>
>  
>

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Canada



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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Jan 18 13:49:01 2006
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:49:01 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <43CF1B25.8033.5D6F2F8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <002301c61c68$3b1dc0e0$0300a8c0@jt2>

XP Pro SP2 - yes there is a local administrator account, but (yes you've
guessed it) I don't know the password... I tried all the usual work ones,
and the obvious ones, but no avail. My boss wants me to reinstall Windows,
but I think it's overkill.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 18 January 2006 18:53
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem

On 18 Jan 2006 at 17:24, Jon Tydda wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> Got a weird one for you
> 
> I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either 
> connected to the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain 
> ALCONTROLUK cannot be found". Normally, if you can't get on to the 
> network, it'll still log you on with old cached credentials, providing 
> you use the correct old password, like laptops do when they're at home -
this one won't.
> 

What OS?  You need to log in to a local user account rather than a domain
account.  There should be at least a local "administrator" account.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jan 18 14:08:54 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:08:54 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
In-Reply-To: <000301c61c65$6dfd76c0$6a01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <000301c61c65$6dfd76c0$6a01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <43CEA056.1060207@san.rr.com>

John:

Thanks for all.  I downloaded and installed the sig extension but can't 
get it to work.  Where do you right click?  After you hit reply?  and 
where on the message?

Rocky



John Bartow wrote:
> 1) Multi-signatures per email address or one for each email address?
>
> 1a) If one per email address then: save a text file with your signature
> block in it, then Tools | Acounts Settings | "attach this signature" and
> browse to that file.
>
> 1b) If multiples for one address then I think you'll need to download and
> install the extension called "signature" from
> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=578&application=thunde
> rbird 
> then it is a simple right click function.
>
> 2) See 1b)
>
> 3) Tools | options | composition | check spelling before sending
> 4) Tools | options | composition | send options
>
> One SPAM?! LUCKY! Mine has caught one or more every three minutes for the
> last 2 years :o)
>
> HTH
> John B. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:30 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>
>     Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  I
> don't find the help all that helpfull.
>
> 1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
> 2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had that
> in the menu bar)
> 3) Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
> 4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept text
> and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?
>
> The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
> Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
> From: 	dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
> To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com
>
>
>
> Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list is for
> the discussion of Hardware and Software related issues that don't belong
> into any specific list, but are still technical issues around the computer.
>
>
> To post to this list, send your email to:
>
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>
> General information about the mailing list is at:
>
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>
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>
> with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and
> you will get back a message with instructions.
>
> You must know your password to change your options (including changing the
> password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
>
>   dakeimve
>
> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com mailing list
> passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer.
> This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change
> your account options.  There is also a button on your options page that will
> email your current password to you.
>
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>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jan 18 14:32:05 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:32:05 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
References: <002201c61c68$147c3a20$0300a8c0@jt2>
Message-ID: <43CEA5C5.3070703@shaw.ca>

Start in Safe Mode
then Start run "cmd"
and type in the Dos command


Jon Tydda wrote:

>I tried that, but I need to be able to log in, don't I? That's why I
>unplugged it from the network, I know our leases are set at 3 days...
>
>
>Jon 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: 18 January 2006 17:47
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
>
>Just a SWAG, but you could try to expire the DHCP lease
>
>A lease is normally expired after three days of the client being off- line
>(not renewing its lease).  You can also expire a lease manually by issuing
>an...
>
>
>  IPCONFIG /RELEASE
>
>
>...command at the machine you want to expire.
>
>
>DHCP Manager can be used to adjust the lease duration.
>
>
>Jon Tydda wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi All
>>
>>Got a weird one for you
>>
>>I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either connected 
>>to the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain ALCONTROLUK 
>>cannot be found". Normally, if you can't get on to the network, it'll 
>>still log you on with old cached credentials, providing you use the 
>>correct old password, like laptops do when they're at home - this one
>>    
>>
>won't.
>  
>
>>I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to expire 
>>it's IP address or something, and I'm going to leave it a couple of 
>>days before I plug it back in, but I was wondering if anyone had seen 
>>anything like it before and could offer any suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>Jon
>>
>>
>>The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally 
>>privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are 
>>subject to the legal notice available on request from : 
>>webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of
>>    
>>
>ALcontrol UK Limited.
>  
>
>>Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ.
>>Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 
>>_______________________________________________
>>dba-Tech mailing list
>>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jan 18 14:52:06 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 06:52:06 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <002301c61c68$3b1dc0e0$0300a8c0@jt2>
References: <43CF1B25.8033.5D6F2F8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <43CF3716.10095.6441A25@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 18 Jan 2006 at 19:49, Jon Tydda wrote:

> XP Pro SP2 - yes there is a local administrator account, but (yes you've
> guessed it) I don't know the password... I tried all the usual work ones,
> and the obvious ones, but no avail. My boss wants me to reinstall Windows,
> but I think it's overkill.
> 


Take a look at the various solutions here:
http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm

I recommend the 
"Offline NT Password & Registry Editor (v050303)"

I've used it successfully in a similar situation.

-- 
Stuart




From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jan 18 14:59:04 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:59:04 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
In-Reply-To: <43CEA056.1060207@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <001501c61c72$049e23c0$6a01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

First make sure it installed - tools | Extensions - it should be listed
there.

Double click on it to add/edit/delete signatures

Then reply to a message and type what you need to then right click where you
want the sig to begin and choose insert signature and pick which one.

There is some key combination for the default sig (it says in the default
listing) but I don't remember what it is.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:09 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]

John:

Thanks for all.  I downloaded and installed the sig extension but can't get
it to work.  Where do you right click?  After you hit reply?  and where on
the message?

Rocky



John Bartow wrote:
> 1) Multi-signatures per email address or one for each email address?
>
> 1a) If one per email address then: save a text file with your 
> signature block in it, then Tools | Acounts Settings | "attach this 
> signature" and browse to that file.
>
> 1b) If multiples for one address then I think you'll need to download 
> and install the extension called "signature" from 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=578&application=
> thunde
> rbird
> then it is a simple right click function.
>
> 2) See 1b)
>
> 3) Tools | options | composition | check spelling before sending
> 4) Tools | options | composition | send options
>
> One SPAM?! LUCKY! Mine has caught one or more every three minutes for 
> the last 2 years :o)
>
> HTH
> John B. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:30 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>
>     Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  
> I don't find the help all that helpfull.
>
> 1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
> 2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had 
> that in the menu bar)
> 3) Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
> 4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept 
> text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?
>
> The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
> Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
> From: 	dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
> To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com
>
>
>
> Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list 
> is for the discussion of Hardware and Software related issues that 
> don't belong into any specific list, but are still technical issues around
the computer.
>
>
> To post to this list, send your email to:
>
>   dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>
> General information about the mailing list is at:
>
>   http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>
> If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to 
> or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your 
> subscription page
> at:
>
>   
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/options/dba-tech/bchacc%40san.rr.c
> om
>
>
> You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:
>
>   dba-Tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>
> with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the 
> quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.
>
> You must know your password to change your options (including changing 
> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
>
>   dakeimve
>
> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com mailing 
> list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you
prefer.
> This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or 
> change your account options.  There is also a button on your options 
> page that will email your current password to you.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
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>
>
>   

--
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858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com

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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Jan 18 16:13:29 2006
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:13:29 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] THUNDERBIRD HELP!!! - was: Welcome to the.....
In-Reply-To: <43CEA056.1060207@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV14BC419562D0FAF09A7DB6D21D0@phx.gbl>

Welcome.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: 18 January 2006 20:09
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]


John:

Thanks for all.  I downloaded and installed the sig extension but can't 
get it to work.  Where do you right click?  After you hit reply?  and 
where on the message?

Rocky



John Bartow wrote:
> 1) Multi-signatures per email address or one for each email address?
>
> 1a) If one per email address then: save a text file with your 
> signature block in it, then Tools | Acounts Settings | "attach this 
> signature" and browse to that file.
>
> 1b) If multiples for one address then I think you'll need to download 
> and install the extension called "signature" from 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=578&application=
> thunde
> rbird 
> then it is a simple right click function.
>
> 2) See 1b)
>
> 3) Tools | options | composition | check spelling before sending
> 4) Tools | options | composition | send options
>
> One SPAM?! LUCKY! Mine has caught one or more every three minutes for 
> the last 2 years :o)
>
> HTH
> John B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:30 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>
>     Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  
> I don't find the help all that helpfull.
>
> 1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
> 2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had 
> that in the menu bar)
> 3) Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
> 4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept 
> text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?
>
> The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
> Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
> From: 	dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
> To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com
>
>
>
> Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list 
> is for the discussion of Hardware and Software related issues that 
> don't belong into any specific list, but are still technical issues 
> around the computer.
>
>
> To post to this list, send your email to:
>
>   dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>
> General information about the mailing list is at:
>
>   http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>
> If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to 
> or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your 
> subscription page
> at:
>
>   
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/options/dba-tech/bchacc%40san.rr.c
> om
>
>
> You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:
>
>   dba-Tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>
> with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the 
> quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.
>
> You must know your password to change your options (including changing 
> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
>
>   dakeimve
>
> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com mailing 
> list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you 
> prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to 
> unsubscribe or change your account options.  There is also a button on 
> your options page that will email your current password to you.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>   

-- 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jan 18 16:33:01 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:33:01 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
In-Reply-To: <001501c61c72$049e23c0$6a01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <001501c61c72$049e23c0$6a01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <43CEC21D.3030407@san.rr.com>

Got it!  Beautiful.  I thought I had restarted Thunderbird but when I 
restarted it again it installed.  Great extension.  Thanks for the help.

What other extensions do you like?

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com


John Bartow wrote:
> First make sure it installed - tools | Extensions - it should be listed
> there.
>
> Double click on it to add/edit/delete signatures
>
> Then reply to a message and type what you need to then right click where you
> want the sig to begin and choose insert signature and pick which one.
>
> There is some key combination for the default sig (it says in the default
> listing) but I don't remember what it is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:09 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>
> John:
>
> Thanks for all.  I downloaded and installed the sig extension but can't get
> it to work.  Where do you right click?  After you hit reply?  and where on
> the message?
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> John Bartow wrote:
>   
>> 1) Multi-signatures per email address or one for each email address?
>>
>> 1a) If one per email address then: save a text file with your 
>> signature block in it, then Tools | Acounts Settings | "attach this 
>> signature" and browse to that file.
>>
>> 1b) If multiples for one address then I think you'll need to download 
>> and install the extension called "signature" from 
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=578&application=
>> thunde
>> rbird
>> then it is a simple right click function.
>>
>> 2) See 1b)
>>
>> 3) Tools | options | composition | check spelling before sending
>> 4) Tools | options | composition | send options
>>
>> One SPAM?! LUCKY! Mine has caught one or more every three minutes for 
>> the last 2 years :o)
>>
>> HTH
>> John B. 
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:30 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>>
>>     Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  
>> I don't find the help all that helpfull.
>>
>> 1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
>> 2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had 
>> that in the menu bar)
>> 3) Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
>> 4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept 
>> text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?
>>
>> The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
>> Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
>> From: 	dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>> To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list 
>> is for the discussion of Hardware and Software related issues that 
>> don't belong into any specific list, but are still technical issues around
>>     
> the computer.
>   
>> To post to this list, send your email to:
>>
>>   dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> General information about the mailing list is at:
>>
>>   http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>
>> If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to 
>> or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your 
>> subscription page
>> at:
>>
>>   
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/options/dba-tech/bchacc%40san.rr.c
>> om
>>
>>
>> You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:
>>
>>   dba-Tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the 
>> quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.
>>
>> You must know your password to change your options (including changing 
>> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
>>
>>   dakeimve
>>
>> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com mailing 
>> list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you
>>     
> prefer.
>   
>> This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or 
>> change your account options.  There is also a button on your options 
>> page that will email your current password to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> 858-259-4334
>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> --
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>   

-- 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com



From kathryn at bassett.net  Wed Jan 18 16:59:52 2006
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:59:52 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC84658@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <20060118145958.C132C631@dm17.mta.everyone.net>

Try this: turn off computer, then unplug the router for a minute, turn it back on, then boot up again. I was having a problem at work, (though the problem was connecting to the wireless). Tried all kinds of things but rebooting the router did the trick - not using the button reset, but actually unplugging.

--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 9:24 am
> To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
> 
> Hi All
>  
> Got a weird one for you
>  
> I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either 
> connected to the network or not. When you try, it says "The 
> domain ALCONTROLUK cannot be found". Normally, if you can't 
> get on to the network, it'll still log you on with old cached 
> credentials, providing you use the correct old password, like 
> laptops do when they're at home - this one won't.  
>  
> I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to 
> expire it's IP address or something, and I'm going to leave 
> it a couple of days before I plug it back in, but I was 
> wondering if anyone had seen anything like it before and 
> could offer any suggestions?
>  
> Thanks
>  
>  
> Jon
> 
> 
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> be legally privileged. The contents are intended for 
> recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available 
> on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol 
> Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited.
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jan 18 20:24:01 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:24:01 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
In-Reply-To: <43CEC21D.3030407@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <008101c61c9f$6d6c7500$6a01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

I have the following installed:
Zoomy (easy increase/decrease of text size in message)
Signature (you know this one :o)
NestedQuote Remover (remove previous content while replying/forwarding)
Image Zoom (easy zooming in and out of imbedded images)
Fox Clocks (nice world time zone list for those who need to plan worldwide
meetings ;o) I keep mine down on the task bar as an icon)


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:33 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]

Got it!  Beautiful.  I thought I had restarted Thunderbird but when I
restarted it again it installed.  Great extension.  Thanks for the help.

What other extensions do you like?

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com


John Bartow wrote:
> First make sure it installed - tools | Extensions - it should be 
> listed there.
>
> Double click on it to add/edit/delete signatures
>
> Then reply to a message and type what you need to then right click 
> where you want the sig to begin and choose insert signature and pick which
one.
>
> There is some key combination for the default sig (it says in the 
> default
> listing) but I don't remember what it is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:09 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>
> John:
>
> Thanks for all.  I downloaded and installed the sig extension but 
> can't get it to work.  Where do you right click?  After you hit reply?  
> and where on the message?
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> John Bartow wrote:
>   
>> 1) Multi-signatures per email address or one for each email address?
>>
>> 1a) If one per email address then: save a text file with your 
>> signature block in it, then Tools | Acounts Settings | "attach this 
>> signature" and browse to that file.
>>
>> 1b) If multiples for one address then I think you'll need to download 
>> and install the extension called "signature" from 
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=578&application
>> =
>> thunde
>> rbird
>> then it is a simple right click function.
>>
>> 2) See 1b)
>>
>> 3) Tools | options | composition | check spelling before sending
>> 4) Tools | options | composition | send options
>>
>> One SPAM?! LUCKY! Mine has caught one or more every three minutes for 
>> the last 2 years :o)
>>
>> HTH
>> John B. 
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:30 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>>
>>     Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  
>> I don't find the help all that helpfull.
>>
>> 1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
>> 2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had 
>> that in the menu bar)
>> 3) Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
>> 4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept 
>> text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?
>>
>> The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
>> Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
>> From: 	dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>> To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list 
>> is for the discussion of Hardware and Software related issues that 
>> don't belong into any specific list, but are still technical issues 
>> around
>>     
> the computer.
>   
>> To post to this list, send your email to:
>>
>>   dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> General information about the mailing list is at:
>>
>>   http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>
>> If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to 
>> or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your 
>> subscription page
>> at:
>>
>>   
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/options/dba-tech/bchacc%40san.rr.
>> c
>> om
>>
>>
>> You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:
>>
>>   dba-Tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the 
>> quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.
>>
>> You must know your password to change your options (including 
>> changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
>>
>>   dakeimve
>>
>> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com 
>> mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable 
>> this if you
>>     
> prefer.
>   
>> This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or 
>> change your account options.  There is also a button on your options 
>> page that will email your current password to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> 858-259-4334
>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> --
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>   

--
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Jan 20 12:55:56 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:55:56 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
In-Reply-To: <008101c61c9f$6d6c7500$6a01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <008101c61c9f$6d6c7500$6a01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <43D1323C.6090008@san.rr.com>

John:

One thing I noticed with Thunderbird is that it's a bit weaker in the 
spell check.  I do double caps a lot - THe - which OE would correct to 
The.  Is there any spell check extensions that you know of?

Best,
 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com


John Bartow wrote:
> I have the following installed:
> Zoomy (easy increase/decrease of text size in message)
> Signature (you know this one :o)
> NestedQuote Remover (remove previous content while replying/forwarding)
> Image Zoom (easy zooming in and out of imbedded images)
> Fox Clocks (nice world time zone list for those who need to plan worldwide
> meetings ;o) I keep mine down on the task bar as an icon)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:33 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>
> Got it!  Beautiful.  I thought I had restarted Thunderbird but when I
> restarted it again it installed.  Great extension.  Thanks for the help.
>
> What other extensions do you like?
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> John Bartow wrote:
>   
>> First make sure it installed - tools | Extensions - it should be 
>> listed there.
>>
>> Double click on it to add/edit/delete signatures
>>
>> Then reply to a message and type what you need to then right click 
>> where you want the sig to begin and choose insert signature and pick which
>>     
> one.
>   
>> There is some key combination for the default sig (it says in the 
>> default
>> listing) but I don't remember what it is.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:09 PM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>>
>> John:
>>
>> Thanks for all.  I downloaded and installed the sig extension but 
>> can't get it to work.  Where do you right click?  After you hit reply?  
>> and where on the message?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>> John Bartow wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> 1) Multi-signatures per email address or one for each email address?
>>>
>>> 1a) If one per email address then: save a text file with your 
>>> signature block in it, then Tools | Acounts Settings | "attach this 
>>> signature" and browse to that file.
>>>
>>> 1b) If multiples for one address then I think you'll need to download 
>>> and install the extension called "signature" from 
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=578&application
>>> =
>>> thunde
>>> rbird
>>> then it is a simple right click function.
>>>
>>> 2) See 1b)
>>>
>>> 3) Tools | options | composition | check spelling before sending
>>> 4) Tools | options | composition | send options
>>>
>>> One SPAM?! LUCKY! Mine has caught one or more every three minutes for 
>>> the last 2 years :o)
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> John B. 
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
>>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:30 AM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>>>
>>>     Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  
>>> I don't find the help all that helpfull.
>>>
>>> 1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
>>> 2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE had 
>>> that in the menu bar)
>>> 3) Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
>>> 4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to accept 
>>> text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?
>>>
>>> The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.
>>>
>>> MTIA
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
>>> Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
>>> From: 	dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>>> To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list 
>>> is for the discussion of Hardware and Software related issues that 
>>> don't belong into any specific list, but are still technical issues 
>>> around
>>>     
>>>       
>> the computer.
>>   
>>     
>>> To post to this list, send your email to:
>>>
>>>   dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>> General information about the mailing list is at:
>>>
>>>   http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>
>>> If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to 
>>> or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your 
>>> subscription page
>>> at:
>>>
>>>   
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/options/dba-tech/bchacc%40san.rr.
>>> c
>>> om
>>>
>>>
>>> You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:
>>>
>>>   dba-Tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>> with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the 
>>> quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.
>>>
>>> You must know your password to change your options (including 
>>> changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
>>>
>>>   dakeimve
>>>
>>> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com 
>>> mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable 
>>> this if you
>>>     
>>>       
>> prefer.
>>   
>>     
>>> This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or 
>>> change your account options.  There is also a button on your options 
>>> page that will email your current password to you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rocky Smolin
>>> Beach Access Software
>>> 858-259-4334
>>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> --
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> 858-259-4334
>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> --
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>   

-- 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Sat Jan 21 13:09:40 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:09:40 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] Running BIOS setup from Windows
Message-ID: <003f01c61ebf$60e27b00$6501a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>

Hi All,

Did anybody use subj utilities like hwsetup?
(http://www.quepublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=102215&seqNum=4&rl=1)

I have never seen/used it - I just wanted to have something like BIOS setup
to run from Windows in "virtual" mode - I mean I don't need to change BIOS
setup options while MS Windows is running - I just wanted to investigate
them...

Thank you for any additional info on subject.
Shamil



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jan 22 11:50:13 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:50:13 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Running BIOS setup from Windows
References: <003f01c61ebf$60e27b00$6501a8c0@fincomplex.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <43D3C5D5.5040707@shaw.ca>

There are a lot of DOS assembler programs out there that save, restore 
and display the first 128 bytes of CMOS
You might wonder why they save only 128 bytes of CMOS even though
some modern computers have many times that amount in extendeded BIOS.  
The problem is the way
you get at the rest of it is proprietary.  The vendors won't disclose how
you get at it.  It is possible to disassemble the ROM BIOS to figure it
out in an individual case. There is also a way to get at BIOS passwords.

You can hit PrintScrn when in BIOS settings area to save settings to paper.
I used this on old 286's to remember cyls and heads disk settings, when 
the bios didn't check beforehand
as they do now.


You can view a lot of BIOS settings via WMI.
for example to find manufacture of BIOS
http://www.activexperts.com/activmonitor/windowsmanagement/adminscripts/computermanagement/hardware/#RetrBiosInfo.htm
or
http://www.activexperts.com/activmonitor/windowsmanagement/wmi/samples/hw/#Win32_BIOS.htm

On this above site there are a lot more vbs scripts that could be 
translated to VBA to get at specific info..

I suppose you could try the individual BIOS manufactures site. Going 
back about 10 years AMI
had some programs to display info.




Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Did anybody use subj utilities like hwsetup?
>(http://www.quepublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=102215&seqNum=4&rl=1)
>
>I have never seen/used it - I just wanted to have something like BIOS setup
>to run from Windows in "virtual" mode - I mean I don't need to change BIOS
>setup options while MS Windows is running - I just wanted to investigate
>them...
>
>Thank you for any additional info on subject.
>Shamil
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jan 22 12:29:44 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:29:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Barrett-Jackson Auto Auctions
In-Reply-To: <43D3C5D5.5040707@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <00fd01c61f81$d0fea770$8e01a8c0@rock>

I seem seriously to have missed the point on what cars are valuable. An
original mint condition Jaguar XKE sold for a mere half million while a
Chrysler Hemicuda sold for 2 million! Unf**king believable. Here you have
perhaps the greatest car ever designed (XKE) vs. another stupid lumbering
behemoth and somehow the behemoth scores four times more than the XKE. How
could this occur. Perhaps the old adage applies: if you want to know what
God thinks of money, look to whom he gave it.
Unbelievable, a HemiCuda worth four times the price of an XKE, both of which
are in mint condition. This is a stupid world.
Mind you, anyone who is there to pay a million or so for a car clearly has
too much money, but that is an aside. But given a choice between 4 Jag XKEs
and one HemiCuda, what would you choose? I like HemiCudas but let us be
realistic about this. How could one possibly fault the design of an XKE and
instead choose a HemiCuda? 
I guess this is why I am not affluent. I keep choosing design over HOT. You
get about 1.5 miles per gallon in a Hemi, which is obviously not why you
might have purchased one. But still, why on earth would you buy such an
angry dog? This is not a car! It is a display of somethingm, and I suspect
what that something is, but will venture no further than to reiterate
Fuller`s Fifth law: cubic inch displacement is inversely proportional to
sexual ability.

Arthur



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Jan 22 13:01:51 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:01:51 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Thunderbird Question
Message-ID: <43D3D69F.6070900@san.rr.com>

Dear Doctor Bartow:

In OE when I keyed a 'net address it automatically became a link 
underlined.  But in Thunderbird it doesn't. Is there a switch to tell it 
to make these URLs a n active link?

TIA


-- 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Jan 22 13:23:17 2006
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:23:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Thunderbird Question
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP07B8844C4E926B8FFE5C96AE110@CEZ.ICE>

On 22 Jan 2006 at 11:01, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> In OE when I keyed a 'net address it automatically became a link 
> underlined.  But in Thunderbird it doesn't. Is there a switch to tell it 
> to make these URLs a n active link?

Rocky,

For a link to be active on your end does not mean it will be an 
active link on the receivers end. Most modern e-mail clients will 
make the link active on the receiving end though.

When I put a URL in an e-mail (ie http://cbc.ca ) it is not active 
when I an typing it in. However, when I get it back it *will* be a 
clickable link. It's just a function of the e-mail client.

If it is keyed in correctly, I wouldn't worry about it being active 
on your end.

My non-Thunderbird using $0.02 worth  :)

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
There's a bug born every minute, and two to replace him.




From garykjos at gmail.com  Sun Jan 22 13:34:39 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:34:39 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Barrett-Jackson Auto Auctions
In-Reply-To: <00fd01c61f81$d0fea770$8e01a8c0@rock>
References: <43D3C5D5.5040707@shaw.ca> <00fd01c61f81$d0fea770$8e01a8c0@rock>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950601221134m33c7acefj515e7c61f6260444@mail.gmail.com>

The care value thing is mostly about how many of them there are. I'm
guessing the Hemi Cuda you saw was a convertible?? There just were not
that many Hemi Cuda's built. And many of the ones that were made were
probaby wrecked. How many XKE's were built??

There were 11 Hemi Cuda Convertibles built in 1971 and only 7 of those
were sold in the US.

Have a look at this article....
http://money.cnn.com/2003/06/26/pf/autos/cuda/

This one had a bit of $4.1Million. It was the last one made
http://vintagecars.about.com/od/historygreatmoments/ss/hemicuda_rw.htm
http://vintagecars.about.com/od/historygreatmoments/ss/hemicuda_rw_2.htm

Yes a V12 Jag would be a cool car. I wouldn't turn down either of them
if they were offered. Hard to beat TORQUE. The hemi definately had
that. Either would be to valueable to actually drive though. I'll take
just a relatively common car so I can actually drive it,

GK

On 1/22/06, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> I seem seriously to have missed the point on what cars are valuable. An
> original mint condition Jaguar XKE sold for a mere half million while a
> Chrysler Hemicuda sold for 2 million! Unf**king believable. Here you have
> perhaps the greatest car ever designed (XKE) vs. another stupid lumbering
> behemoth and somehow the behemoth scores four times more than the XKE. How
> could this occur. Perhaps the old adage applies: if you want to know what
> God thinks of money, look to whom he gave it.
> Unbelievable, a HemiCuda worth four times the price of an XKE, both of which
> are in mint condition. This is a stupid world.
> Mind you, anyone who is there to pay a million or so for a car clearly has
> too much money, but that is an aside. But given a choice between 4 Jag XKEs
> and one HemiCuda, what would you choose? I like HemiCudas but let us be
> realistic about this. How could one possibly fault the design of an XKE and
> instead choose a HemiCuda?
> I guess this is why I am not affluent. I keep choosing design over HOT. You
> get about 1.5 miles per gallon in a Hemi, which is obviously not why you
> might have purchased one. But still, why on earth would you buy such an
> angry dog? This is not a car! It is a display of somethingm, and I suspect
> what that something is, but will venture no further than to reiterate
> Fuller`s Fifth law: cubic inch displacement is inversely proportional to
> sexual ability.
>
> Arthur
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


--
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garykjos at gmail.com


From john at winhaven.net  Sun Jan 22 14:47:20 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:47:20 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech]  Thunderbird Question - Spell Check
In-Reply-To: <43D1323C.6090008@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00b301c61f95$0ab9e160$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Rocky,
I haven't found any spell check add-ins. The spellchecker itself is open
source but unfortunately I can't find any relevant information on it either.

Might I suggest increasing the typomatic response rate on your keyboard ;o)

I should talk - half the words in my emails come out garbled!

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:56 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]

John:

One thing I noticed with Thunderbird is that it's a bit weaker in the spell
check.  I do double caps a lot - THe - which OE would correct to The.  Is
there any spell check extensions that you know of?

Best,
 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com


John Bartow wrote:
> I have the following installed:
> Zoomy (easy increase/decrease of text size in message) Signature (you 
> know this one :o) NestedQuote Remover (remove previous content while 
> replying/forwarding) Image Zoom (easy zooming in and out of imbedded 
> images) Fox Clocks (nice world time zone list for those who need to 
> plan worldwide meetings ;o) I keep mine down on the task bar as an 
> icon)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:33 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>
> Got it!  Beautiful.  I thought I had restarted Thunderbird but when I 
> restarted it again it installed.  Great extension.  Thanks for the help.
>
> What other extensions do you like?
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> John Bartow wrote:
>   
>> First make sure it installed - tools | Extensions - it should be 
>> listed there.
>>
>> Double click on it to add/edit/delete signatures
>>
>> Then reply to a message and type what you need to then right click 
>> where you want the sig to begin and choose insert signature and pick 
>> which
>>     
> one.
>   
>> There is some key combination for the default sig (it says in the 
>> default
>> listing) but I don't remember what it is.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:09 PM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>>
>> John:
>>
>> Thanks for all.  I downloaded and installed the sig extension but 
>> can't get it to work.  Where do you right click?  After you hit reply?
>> and where on the message?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>> John Bartow wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> 1) Multi-signatures per email address or one for each email address?
>>>
>>> 1a) If one per email address then: save a text file with your 
>>> signature block in it, then Tools | Acounts Settings | "attach this 
>>> signature" and browse to that file.
>>>
>>> 1b) If multiples for one address then I think you'll need to 
>>> download and install the extension called "signature" from 
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=578&applicatio
>>> n
>>> =
>>> thunde
>>> rbird
>>> then it is a simple right click function.
>>>
>>> 2) See 1b)
>>>
>>> 3) Tools | options | composition | check spelling before sending
>>> 4) Tools | options | composition | send options
>>>
>>> One SPAM?! LUCKY! Mine has caught one or more every three minutes 
>>> for the last 2 years :o)
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> John B. 
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
>>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:30 AM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] [Fwd: Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list]
>>>
>>>     Oh, goody.  At last.  Now I start with my Thunderbird questions.  
>>> I don't find the help all that helpfull.
>>>
>>> 1) Is there a way to do multiple signatures like OE?
>>> 2) Is there a way to insert the signature when doing a reply? (OE 
>>> had that in the menu bar)
>>> 3) Is there a setting to trigger spell check on send?
>>> 4) Is there a way to globally set all recipients to be able to 
>>> accept text and HTML so that I don't get that message every time I send?
>>>
>>> The spam filter's beginning to work! It caught one today.
>>>
>>> MTIA
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Welcome to the "dba-Tech" mailing list
>>> Date: 	Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:21 -0600
>>> From: 	dba-tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>>> To: 	bchacc at san.rr.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Welcome to the dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com mailing list! This list 
>>> is for the discussion of Hardware and Software related issues that 
>>> don't belong into any specific list, but are still technical issues 
>>> around
>>>     
>>>       
>> the computer.
>>   
>>     
>>> To post to this list, send your email to:
>>>
>>>   dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>> General information about the mailing list is at:
>>>
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>>>
>>> If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch 
>>> to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your 
>>> subscription page
>>> at:
>>>
>>>   
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/options/dba-tech/bchacc%40san.rr.
>>> c
>>> om
>>>
>>>
>>> You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:
>>>
>>>   dba-Tech-request at databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>> with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the 
>>> quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.
>>>
>>> You must know your password to change your options (including 
>>> changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
>>>
>>>   dakeimve
>>>
>>> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your databaseadvisors.com 
>>> mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable 
>>> this if you
>>>     
>>>       
>> prefer.
>>   
>>     
>>> This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe 
>>> or change your account options.  There is also a button on your 
>>> options page that will email your current password to you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rocky Smolin
>>> Beach Access Software
>>> 858-259-4334
>>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> --
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> 858-259-4334
>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
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>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> --
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jan 22 14:48:20 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:48:20 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Barrett-Jackson Auto Auctions
Message-ID: <s3d3fdb6.043@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Don't speak of Jaguars. I had a Tudor white XJ 5.3C - the 12 cylinder coup? - for 13 years. Drove it every day and felt it like a privilege. The comfort of that car is second to none, a perfect match of a racing car and a limousine. My wife, Rita, loved it too. She drove it as often as I did. "The flying carpet" she called it and pressed the speeder causing only a quiet civilized humming.

It was nearly like this, except that it was all white and mounted with the newer aluminum wheels:

  http://www.classiccarclub.co.uk/carpages/jag_xj.asp 

Still, no one can design cars like Jaguar. I often study BMWs and Mercedes but they just don't get it. Master engineering, yes, but no sense for style. As a journalist here wrote after a test drive for an extended period of the latest model "grand Jaguar": You could live in that car.

Today my old car would cost a fortune in fuel consumption alone. My wife tells me to earn a lot of money; then I can buy any car I wish, she says. She knows what I would buy, and I would have no problem spending that kind of money for a real car. She would even appreciate it ...
Did I tell that her favourite car is the Jaguar XK150 S cabriolet? It is so beautiful, and she was hooked the first time we looked at one at a Jaguar car meeting. It had been refurbished using the original special red colour and looked brand new - ready to tour the country:

  http://www.bsmotoring.com/2002/02jun21_1.htm

Oh well, such cars are getting expensive to the degree where you don't dare to drive them. It's a pity as Jaguars are built to drive.
Tomorrow it's Monday. Better write some code and earn some money.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 22-01-2006 19:29 >>>
I seem seriously to have missed the point on what cars are valuable. An
original mint condition Jaguar XKE sold for a mere half million while a
Chrysler Hemicuda sold for 2 million! Unf**king believable. Here you have
perhaps the greatest car ever designed (XKE) vs. another stupid lumbering
behemoth and somehow the behemoth scores four times more than the XKE. How
could this occur. Perhaps the old adage applies: if you want to know what
God thinks of money, look to whom he gave it.
Unbelievable, a HemiCuda worth four times the price of an XKE, both of which
are in mint condition. This is a stupid world.
Mind you, anyone who is there to pay a million or so for a car clearly has
too much money, but that is an aside. But given a choice between 4 Jag XKEs
and one HemiCuda, what would you choose? I like HemiCudas but let us be
realistic about this. How could one possibly fault the design of an XKE and
instead choose a HemiCuda? 
I guess this is why I am not affluent. I keep choosing design over HOT. You
get about 1.5 miles per gallon in a Hemi, which is obviously not why you
might have purchased one. But still, why on earth would you buy such an
angry dog? This is not a car! It is a display of somethingm, and I suspect
what that something is, but will venture no further than to reiterate
Fuller`s Fifth law: cubic inch displacement is inversely proportional to
sexual ability.

Arthur




From john at winhaven.net  Sun Jan 22 14:50:31 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:50:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Thunderbird Question
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP07B8844C4E926B8FFE5C96AE110@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <00b401c61f95$7cb85080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Yea, what Bryan said :o)

It takes a bit of trust. But on the positive side it doesn't double the
intended hyperlink like Outlook does when you compose in html and then send
to a plain text recipient.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:23 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Thunderbird Question

On 22 Jan 2006 at 11:01, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> In OE when I keyed a 'net address it automatically became a link 
> underlined.  But in Thunderbird it doesn't. Is there a switch to tell 
> it to make these URLs a n active link?

Rocky,

For a link to be active on your end does not mean it will be an active link
on the receivers end. Most modern e-mail clients will make the link active
on the receiving end though.

When I put a URL in an e-mail (ie http://cbc.ca ) it is not active when I an
typing it in. However, when I get it back it *will* be a clickable link.
It's just a function of the e-mail client.

If it is keyed in correctly, I wouldn't worry about it being active on your
end.

My non-Thunderbird using $0.02 worth  :)

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca There's a bug born every minute,
and two to replace him.


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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jan 22 14:58:24 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:58:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Barrett-Jackson Auto Auctions
In-Reply-To: <s3d3fdb6.043@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <011e01c61f96$95c44060$8e01a8c0@rock>

Well, I had a BMW 2002 tii a couple of decades ago and it remains my
favourite car that I ever owned. But mind you, I never owned an XKE, merely
experienced the joy of driving one briefly. I also drove (never owned) a
Porsche 911. Wow! But frankly, I'd rather have a Sharapova. LOL. Although
the Hantuchovas are no slouches either.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: January 22, 2006 3:48 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Barrett-Jackson Auto Auctions

Hi Arthur

Don't speak of Jaguars. I had a Tudor white XJ 5.3C - the 12 cylinder coup?
- for 13 years. Drove it every day and felt it like a privilege. The comfort
of that car is second to none, a perfect match of a racing car and a
limousine. My wife, Rita, loved it too. She drove it as often as I did. "The
flying carpet" she called it and pressed the speeder causing only a quiet
civilized humming.

It was nearly like this, except that it was all white and mounted with the
newer aluminum wheels:

  http://www.classiccarclub.co.uk/carpages/jag_xj.asp 

Still, no one can design cars like Jaguar. I often study BMWs and Mercedes
but they just don't get it. Master engineering, yes, but no sense for style.
As a journalist here wrote after a test drive for an extended period of the
latest model "grand Jaguar": You could live in that car.

Today my old car would cost a fortune in fuel consumption alone. My wife
tells me to earn a lot of money; then I can buy any car I wish, she says.
She knows what I would buy, and I would have no problem spending that kind
of money for a real car. She would even appreciate it ...
Did I tell that her favourite car is the Jaguar XK150 S cabriolet? It is so
beautiful, and she was hooked the first time we looked at one at a Jaguar
car meeting. It had been refurbished using the original special red colour
and looked brand new - ready to tour the country:

  http://www.bsmotoring.com/2002/02jun21_1.htm

Oh well, such cars are getting expensive to the degree where you don't dare
to drive them. It's a pity as Jaguars are built to drive.
Tomorrow it's Monday. Better write some code and earn some money.

/gustav



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jan 22 15:03:15 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 16:03:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] LinkSys Router and FTP Server
In-Reply-To: <00b401c61f95$7cb85080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <011f01c61f97$4353dc90$8e01a8c0@rock>

Does anyone on this list run an FTP server through a LinkSys router? I would
like to set up an FTP server on one of my boxes, all of which are connected
to the LinkSys router. In addition, due to space limitations, I would want
the FTP server to address drives/directories on several boxes (one has all
my music, another has all my database stuff, etc.). Anyone who could help me
through this process is invited to respond privately (don't want to consume
bandwidth just for a private issue).
TIA,
Arthur



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sun Jan 22 15:33:46 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 16:33:46 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] LinkSys Router and FTP Server
In-Reply-To: <011f01c61f97$4353dc90$8e01a8c0@rock>
References: <00b401c61f95$7cb85080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
	<011f01c61f97$4353dc90$8e01a8c0@rock>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920601221333pb0eab70j@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/01/06, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> Does anyone on this list run an FTP server through a LinkSys router? I would
> like to set up an FTP server on one of my boxes, all of which are connected
> to the LinkSys router. In addition, due to space limitations, I would want
> the FTP server to address drives/directories on several boxes (one has all
> my music, another has all my database stuff, etc.). Anyone who could help me
> through this process is invited to respond privately (don't want to consume
> bandwidth just for a private issue).

Actually Arthur, this is perfect fodder for the list.

Now, I don't have any answers, just more questions, since I've never
done this before.

Did you open up the port in the router? Or setup any forwarding?

I had to setup port forwarding for my Bittorrent client before it would work.

Is your FTP server a Linux box or a windows box?

If it a Linux box, you can set it up so that it automounts the other
boxes, or directories of the other boxes. Once they are mounted you
can create symlinks in the FTP directory to point to those mount
points. If you do that, you will need to tell the FTP Server to follow
the symlinks.

If your FTP server is a windows box, then I can't be of much help.

Keep in mind that Rogers may block port 21 so that you can't setup an
FTP server on their network.

If all you are trying to do is access your directories from the net,
have a look at Hamachi (http://hamachi.cc/ - written by a guy from
Vancouver). It's a cool little tool. Basically what it does is give
you box a fixed ip in the 5.xxx.xxx.xxx range (an unused public ip
range) and allow you to connect to the box via tunneling. You will
need to install Hamachi on the box you are trying to connect from as
well. You can then browse the shares on the box or even connect to it
via VNC. It works even through your router without having to open up
any ports. It is even supposed to go through most corporate firewalls,
although it doesn't go through mine at work :(

That may be a possible solution too.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Jan 22 14:46:10 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:46:10 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Barrett-Jackson Auto Auctions
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950601221134m33c7acefj515e7c61f6260444@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000201c61f94$e10ec420$ea520c54@minster33c3r25>

Hey guys, shouldn't this be on OT?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: 22 January 2006 19:35
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Barrett-Jackson Auto Auctions
> 
> 
> The care value thing is mostly about how many of them there 
> are. I'm guessing the Hemi Cuda you saw was a convertible?? 
> There just were not that many Hemi Cuda's built. And many of 
> the ones that were made were probaby wrecked. How many XKE's 
> were built??
> 
> There were 11 Hemi Cuda Convertibles built in 1971 and only 7 
> of those were sold in the US.
> 
> Have a look at this article.... 
> http://money.cnn.com/2003/06/26/pf/autos/cuda/
> 
> This one had a bit of $4.1Million. It was the last one made 
> http://vintagecars.about.com/od/historygreatmoments/ss/hemicuda_rw.htm
> http://vintagecars.about.com/od/historygreatmoments/ss/hemicud
> a_rw_2.htm
> 
> Yes a V12 Jag would be a cool car. I wouldn't turn down 
> either of them if they were offered. Hard to beat TORQUE. The 
> hemi definately had that. Either would be to valueable to 
> actually drive though. I'll take just a relatively common car 
> so I can actually drive it,
> 
> GK
> 
> On 1/22/06, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> > I seem seriously to have missed the point on what cars are 
> valuable. 
> > An original mint condition Jaguar XKE sold for a mere half million 
> > while a Chrysler Hemicuda sold for 2 million! Unf**king believable. 
> > Here you have perhaps the greatest car ever designed (XKE) 
> vs. another 
> > stupid lumbering behemoth and somehow the behemoth scores 
> four times 
> > more than the XKE. How could this occur. Perhaps the old adage 
> > applies: if you want to know what God thinks of money, look 
> to whom he 
> > gave it. Unbelievable, a HemiCuda worth four times the price of an 
> > XKE, both of which are in mint condition. This is a stupid 
> world. Mind 
> > you, anyone who is there to pay a million or so for a car 
> clearly has 
> > too much money, but that is an aside. But given a choice 
> between 4 Jag 
> > XKEs and one HemiCuda, what would you choose? I like 
> HemiCudas but let 
> > us be realistic about this. How could one possibly fault 
> the design of 
> > an XKE and instead choose a HemiCuda? I guess this is why I am not 
> > affluent. I keep choosing design over HOT. You get about 
> 1.5 miles per 
> > gallon in a Hemi, which is obviously not why you might have 
> purchased 
> > one. But still, why on earth would you buy such an angry 
> dog? This is 
> > not a car! It is a display of somethingm, and I suspect what that 
> > something is, but will venture no further than to reiterate 
> Fuller`s 
> > Fifth law: cubic inch displacement is inversely 
> proportional to sexual 
> > ability.
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________
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> 



From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 22 16:36:09 2006
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 16:36:09 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Barrett-Jackson Auto Auctions
In-Reply-To: <s3d3fdb6.043@cactus.dk>
References: <s3d3fdb6.043@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <43D408D9.7050808@earthlink.net>

Hi Gustav

I also had a Jag, much longer ago, much older, much slower, much bigger. 
A Mark VII Saloon. Weighed a coupla tons. When the temp got down below 
-15C or so, it wouldn't even htink of moving. But man, it was more 
comfortable than any couch I've owned.

P.

Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Arthur
>
> Don't speak of Jaguars. I had a Tudor white XJ 5.3C - the 12 cylinder coup? - for 13 years. Drove it every day and felt it like a privilege. The comfort of that car is second to none, a perfect match of a racing car and a limousine. My wife, Rita, loved it too. She drove it as often as I did. "The flying carpet" she called it and pressed the speeder causing only a quiet civilized humming.
>
> It was nearly like this, except that it was all white and mounted with the newer aluminum wheels:
>
>   http://www.classiccarclub.co.uk/carpages/jag_xj.asp 
>
> Still, no one can design cars like Jaguar. I often study BMWs and Mercedes but they just don't get it. Master engineering, yes, but no sense for style. As a journalist here wrote after a test drive for an extended period of the latest model "grand Jaguar": You could live in that car.
>
> Today my old car would cost a fortune in fuel consumption alone. My wife tells me to earn a lot of money; then I can buy any car I wish, she says. She knows what I would buy, and I would have no problem spending that kind of money for a real car. She would even appreciate it ...
> Did I tell that her favourite car is the Jaguar XK150 S cabriolet? It is so beautiful, and she was hooked the first time we looked at one at a Jaguar car meeting. It had been refurbished using the original special red colour and looked brand new - ready to tour the country:
>
>   http://www.bsmotoring.com/2002/02jun21_1.htm
>
> Oh well, such cars are getting expensive to the degree where you don't dare to drive them. It's a pity as Jaguars are built to drive.
> Tomorrow it's Monday. Better write some code and earn some money.
>
> /gustav
>
>   
>>>> artful at rogers.com 22-01-2006 19:29 >>>
>>>>         
> I seem seriously to have missed the point on what cars are valuable. An
> original mint condition Jaguar XKE sold for a mere half million while a
> Chrysler Hemicuda sold for 2 million! Unf**king believable. Here you have
> perhaps the greatest car ever designed (XKE) vs. another stupid lumbering
> behemoth and somehow the behemoth scores four times more than the XKE. How
> could this occur. Perhaps the old adage applies: if you want to know what
> God thinks of money, look to whom he gave it.
> Unbelievable, a HemiCuda worth four times the price of an XKE, both of which
> are in mint condition. This is a stupid world.
> Mind you, anyone who is there to pay a million or so for a car clearly has
> too much money, but that is an aside. But given a choice between 4 Jag XKEs
> and one HemiCuda, what would you choose? I like HemiCudas but let us be
> realistic about this. How could one possibly fault the design of an XKE and
> instead choose a HemiCuda? 
> I guess this is why I am not affluent. I keep choosing design over HOT. You
> get about 1.5 miles per gallon in a Hemi, which is obviously not why you
> might have purchased one. But still, why on earth would you buy such an
> angry dog? This is not a car! It is a display of somethingm, and I suspect
> what that something is, but will venture no further than to reiterate
> Fuller`s Fifth law: cubic inch displacement is inversely proportional to
> sexual ability.
>
> Arthur
>
>
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jan 22 16:57:06 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:57:06 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] LinkSys Router and FTP Server
In-Reply-To: <011f01c61f97$4353dc90$8e01a8c0@rock>
References: <00b401c61f95$7cb85080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <43D49A62.21386.50DFE92@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 22 Jan 2006 at 16:03, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Does anyone on this list run an FTP server through a LinkSys router? I would
> like to set up an FTP server on one of my boxes, all of which are connected
> to the LinkSys router. In addition, due to space limitations, I would want
> the FTP server to address drives/directories on several boxes (one has all
> my music, another has all my database stuff, etc.). Anyone who could help me
> through this process is invited to respond privately (don't want to consume
> bandwidth just for a private issue). TIA, Arthur
> 

First thing to do is download the Filezilla Server from 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/

Set it up and play arouind with it including creating different users, 
assigning Home directories andcreating directory aliases between boxes.

Only you are comfortable with imanaging an FTP server, look at opening up 
the router to accessing from the internet.-- 
Stuart




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Jan 22 17:59:36 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:59:36 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Thunderbird Question
In-Reply-To: <00b401c61f95$7cb85080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <00b401c61f95$7cb85080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <43D41C68.3000900@san.rr.com>

OK.  I have faith.

Rocky


John Bartow wrote:
> Yea, what Bryan said :o)
>
> It takes a bit of trust. But on the positive side it doesn't double the
> intended hyperlink like Outlook does when you compose in html and then send
> to a plain text recipient.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Thunderbird Question
>
> On 22 Jan 2006 at 11:01, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:
>
>   
>> In OE when I keyed a 'net address it automatically became a link 
>> underlined.  But in Thunderbird it doesn't. Is there a switch to tell 
>> it to make these URLs a n active link?
>>     
>
> Rocky,
>
> For a link to be active on your end does not mean it will be an active link
> on the receivers end. Most modern e-mail clients will make the link active
> on the receiving end though.
>
> When I put a URL in an e-mail (ie http://cbc.ca ) it is not active when I an
> typing it in. However, when I get it back it *will* be a clickable link.
> It's just a function of the e-mail client.
>
> If it is keyed in correctly, I wouldn't worry about it being active on your
> end.
>
> My non-Thunderbird using $0.02 worth  :)
>
> --
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca There's a bug born every minute,
> and two to replace him.
>
>
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>
>   

-- 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Jan 23 01:35:19 2006
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:35:19 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] LinkSys Router and FTP Server
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B62C7@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

You need to activate FTP server on your computer and remove anonymous
FTP access to avoid that anyone can get in. And ofcourse use a long
password on the user that may access the the FTP user. Please note that
you will get very often dictionairy attacks on your FTP server.

I would suggest to use vitual folders (directories) in your FTP server
to share folders that are located on other computers. I'm not sure of
the Personal FTP server from Windows XP does that. The Windows server
version does that.
At least the FTP server will need a IP address on your local network
that does not change (either fixed or maybe you can specify in the
Linksys router that MAC address x always get the same IP address.

Then you need top open up your FTP port 21 for incoming trafic on the
Linksys Router and map it to the IP address of your FTP server.

You can share all of your computers if they have all an FTP server if
you can do port mapping on the Linksys router. This would mean that you
would access for example port 7322 from the internet and map it trough
the Linksys to port 21 of that specific computer.
This would mean that every computer has it own public port.
I STRONGLY ADVICE AGAINST THIS!!!
Opening up all you computers to the internet is a serious security risk.
IT IS BETTER TO OPEN UP 1 FTP SERVER, USE VIRTUAL FOLDERS AND MAKE SURE
THAT ONE COMPUTER IS ALWAYS UP-TO-DATE AND WELL SECURED!!!

It is far more difficult to keep x number of computers secure...

Greetz
Erwin




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Stuart McLachlan
Verzonden: zondag 22 januari 2006 23:57
Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] LinkSys Router and FTP Server

On 22 Jan 2006 at 16:03, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Does anyone on this list run an FTP server through a LinkSys router? I

> would like to set up an FTP server on one of my boxes, all of which 
> are connected to the LinkSys router. In addition, due to space 
> limitations, I would want the FTP server to address drives/directories

> on several boxes (one has all my music, another has all my database 
> stuff, etc.). Anyone who could help me through this process is invited

> to respond privately (don't want to consume bandwidth just for a 
> private issue). TIA, Arthur
> 

First thing to do is download the Filezilla Server from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/

Set it up and play arouind with it including creating different users,
assigning Home directories andcreating directory aliases between boxes.

Only you are comfortable with imanaging an FTP server, look at opening
up the router to accessing from the internet.-- Stuart


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From djkr at msn.com  Mon Jan 23 18:44:04 2006
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:44:04 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <43D408D9.7050808@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV65A5F496E32135B3663C2D2130@phx.gbl>

Folks, I need some advice, please, based on solid experience.

I build my own PCs, and have done for years, though the next one is overdue
and I need to get on with it.  I have settled into a comfortable groove of
using carefully chosen Intel processors and Supermicro motherboards, the
latter because they are just so reliable - absolutely zero problems, ever,
unlike others I've used.  I have no interest in overclocking or gaming -
just reasonably high-performance, reliable workstation performance.

Now it looks as though I'm going to be tempted away from Intel by AMD's
recent offerings.  So, dear folks, the question is this:  *if* I decide on
an Athlon 64 X2 4400 or 4800, what motherboard manufacturer can I rely on to
give me the ultra-reliable Supermicro experience I crave?

TIA
John


From john at winhaven.net  Mon Jan 23 18:57:46 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:57:46 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV65A5F496E32135B3663C2D2130@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <014801c62081$32d7a0a0$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

I've been using ASUS for AMD Athlons over the last year and half or two. No
problems. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:44 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?

Folks, I need some advice, please, based on solid experience.

I build my own PCs, and have done for years, though the next one is overdue
and I need to get on with it.  I have settled into a comfortable groove of
using carefully chosen Intel processors and Supermicro motherboards, the
latter because they are just so reliable - absolutely zero problems, ever,
unlike others I've used.  I have no interest in overclocking or gaming -
just reasonably high-performance, reliable workstation performance.

Now it looks as though I'm going to be tempted away from Intel by AMD's
recent offerings.  So, dear folks, the question is this:  *if* I decide on
an Athlon 64 X2 4400 or 4800, what motherboard manufacturer can I rely on to
give me the ultra-reliable Supermicro experience I crave?

TIA
John
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From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Mon Jan 23 19:14:41 2006
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:14:41 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <002701c6207f$46eed330$35eb0e05@dabsight>
References: <43D408D9.7050808@earthlink.net>
	<002701c6207f$46eed330$35eb0e05@dabsight>
Message-ID: <32942.65.196.182.34.1138065281.squirrel@65.196.182.34>

John,

I've used 20 - 30 MSI motherboards in the past 4 or 5 years without a
glitch. I've never owned anything except AMD cpus since my first 386/DX40
in the early 90's.

Jim

> Folks, I need some advice, please, based on solid experience.
>
> I build my own PCs, and have done for years, though the next one is
> overdue
> and I need to get on with it.  I have settled into a comfortable groove of
> using carefully chosen Intel processors and Supermicro motherboards, the
> latter because they are just so reliable - absolutely zero problems, ever,
> unlike others I've used.  I have no interest in overclocking or gaming -
> just reasonably high-performance, reliable workstation performance.
>
> Now it looks as though I'm going to be tempted away from Intel by AMD's
> recent offerings.  So, dear folks, the question is this:  *if* I decide on
> an Athlon 64 X2 4400 or 4800, what motherboard manufacturer can I rely on
> to
> give me the ultra-reliable Supermicro experience I crave?
>
> TIA
> John
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>




From artful at rogers.com  Mon Jan 23 19:38:45 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:38:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] LinkSys Router and FTP Server
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B62C7@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <027901c62086$eaa18c00$8e01a8c0@rock>

Thanks, Erwin! I will attempt to implement your suggestions.
Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: January 23, 2006 2:35 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LinkSys Router and FTP Server

You need to activate FTP server on your computer and remove anonymous
FTP access to avoid that anyone can get in. And ofcourse use a long
password on the user that may access the the FTP user. Please note that
you will get very often dictionairy attacks on your FTP server.

I would suggest to use vitual folders (directories) in your FTP server
to share folders that are located on other computers. I'm not sure of
the Personal FTP server from Windows XP does that. The Windows server
version does that.
At least the FTP server will need a IP address on your local network
that does not change (either fixed or maybe you can specify in the
Linksys router that MAC address x always get the same IP address.

Then you need top open up your FTP port 21 for incoming trafic on the
Linksys Router and map it to the IP address of your FTP server.

You can share all of your computers if they have all an FTP server if
you can do port mapping on the Linksys router. This would mean that you
would access for example port 7322 from the internet and map it trough
the Linksys to port 21 of that specific computer.
This would mean that every computer has it own public port.
I STRONGLY ADVICE AGAINST THIS!!!
Opening up all you computers to the internet is a serious security risk.
IT IS BETTER TO OPEN UP 1 FTP SERVER, USE VIRTUAL FOLDERS AND MAKE SURE
THAT ONE COMPUTER IS ALWAYS UP-TO-DATE AND WELL SECURED!!!

It is far more difficult to keep x number of computers secure...

Greetz
Erwin




From john at winhaven.net  Mon Jan 23 22:47:48 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:47:48 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <32942.65.196.182.34.1138065281.squirrel@65.196.182.34>
Message-ID: <019501c620a1$53eb7080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

I've used 2 MSI mbs and have had no problems either. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Moss
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:15 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?

John,

I've used 20 - 30 MSI motherboards in the past 4 or 5 years without a
glitch. I've never owned anything except AMD cpus since my first 386/DX40 in
the early 90's.

Jim



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Jan 24 04:54:02 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:54:02 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Number of files in Recent
Message-ID: <20060124105400.E72A6253E69@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

I've noticed that some of our Windows 2000 users have hundreds (in one case
over 1,500) shortcuts in their Recent folder. Does anyone know how to limit
this? It's a nuisance because these users have romaing profiles so all of
these tiny files are being copied back and forth across the network. What
the heck, I hear you say, but I'd like to keep things tidier if I can. And
to stress, I'm not talking about limiting the number of Recent documents one
sees in Windows, Word or anything else, but the number that are retained in
the Recent folder. Do they, in fact, ever get cleared out?

(By the way we are still on NT4 Server so Group Policies are not the
answer.)


--
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From djkr at msn.com  Tue Jan 24 06:37:54 2006
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:37:54 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <019501c620a1$53eb7080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV160309BACC1B2E25D1D2F0D2130@phx.gbl>

John and Jim

Thanks for this.  I'll definitely take a look at MSI and probably Asus.

Cruising some of my usual suppliers, I see some "repaired under warranty"
mobos at reduced price, mostly Gigabyte(6) but also some Asus(3) and MSI(3).
OK, not a big sample, nor a scientific one - I'd buy new myself anyway, but
seeing this stirred worries about quality.  Any thoughts on this?

Anyone else's experiences?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: 24 January 2006 04:48
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?


I've used 2 MSI mbs and have had no problems either. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Moss
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:15 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?

John,

I've used 20 - 30 MSI motherboards in the past 4 or 5 years without a
glitch. I've never owned anything except AMD cpus since my first 386/DX40 in
the early 90's.

Jim

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 07:36:20 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:36:20 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV160309BACC1B2E25D1D2F0D2130@phx.gbl>
References: <019501c620a1$53eb7080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
	<BAY106-DAV160309BACC1B2E25D1D2F0D2130@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950601240536x3854e9bes396f4800209d35f2@mail.gmail.com>

Ever look at Toms Hardware Guide website??

http://www.tomshardware.com/

Or Extremetech??

http://www.extremetech.com

Both evaluate and make recomendations on components. I have not
assembled any systems myself. I have friends that used to do it a few
years ago and had them do work for me a couple times. I have a
hankering to build a system now though.

GK

On 1/24/06, DJK(John) Robinson <djkr at msn.com> wrote:
> John and Jim
>
> Thanks for this.  I'll definitely take a look at MSI and probably Asus.
>
> Cruising some of my usual suppliers, I see some "repaired under warranty"
> mobos at reduced price, mostly Gigabyte(6) but also some Asus(3) and MSI(3).
> OK, not a big sample, nor a scientific one - I'd buy new myself anyway, but
> seeing this stirred worries about quality.  Any thoughts on this?
>
> Anyone else's experiences?
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
> Sent: 24 January 2006 04:48
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
>
>
> I've used 2 MSI mbs and have had no problems either.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Moss
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:15 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
>
> John,
>
> I've used 20 - 30 MSI motherboards in the past 4 or 5 years without a
> glitch. I've never owned anything except AMD cpus since my first 386/DX40 in
> the early 90's.
>
> Jim
>
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 09:27:52 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:27:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV160309BACC1B2E25D1D2F0D2130@phx.gbl>
References: <019501c620a1$53eb7080$6c01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
	<BAY106-DAV160309BACC1B2E25D1D2F0D2130@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920601240727o68309ed9q@mail.gmail.com>

On 24/01/06, DJK(John) Robinson <djkr at msn.com> wrote:
> John and Jim
>
> Thanks for this.  I'll definitely take a look at MSI and probably Asus.
>
> Cruising some of my usual suppliers, I see some "repaired under warranty"
> mobos at reduced price, mostly Gigabyte(6) but also some Asus(3) and MSI(3).
> OK, not a big sample, nor a scientific one - I'd buy new myself anyway, but
> seeing this stirred worries about quality.  Any thoughts on this?
>
> Anyone else's experiences?

I've got an ASUS MOBO in my Athlon box and have never had an issue with it.

When I build my PVR, I'm more than likely going to go with and ASUS MOBO again.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jan 24 09:37:06 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:37:06 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920601240727o68309ed9q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00bd01c620fc$08ab4f90$6f01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

I think I've used about 2 dozen ASUS/Athlon combos and they are all good. I
use that combo in the higher end workstations and servers. I used the MSI
MBs when I needed to cut the overall cost down. I've also used some Soyos
and a couple of other lesser knowns but only for home use. Got them because
the were cheap.

I'd use ASUS again in a heartbeat.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:28 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?

On 24/01/06, DJK(John) Robinson <djkr at msn.com> wrote:
> John and Jim
>
> Thanks for this.  I'll definitely take a look at MSI and probably Asus.
>
> Cruising some of my usual suppliers, I see some "repaired under warranty"
> mobos at reduced price, mostly Gigabyte(6) but also some Asus(3) and
MSI(3).
> OK, not a big sample, nor a scientific one - I'd buy new myself 
> anyway, but seeing this stirred worries about quality.  Any thoughts on
this?
>
> Anyone else's experiences?

I've got an ASUS MOBO in my Athlon box and have never had an issue with it.

When I build my PVR, I'm more than likely going to go with and ASUS MOBO
again.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Tue Jan 24 09:41:10 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:41:10 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC846AB@ALCUXB>

Wow, I thought I was the only person in the world who'd bought a Soyo. Not
made that mistake again, got a high end Intel board with my P4 when I built
that. Trying to navigate Soyo's site for drivers was next to impossible...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 24 January 2006 15:37
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?


I think I've used about 2 dozen ASUS/Athlon combos and they are all good. I
use that combo in the higher end workstations and servers. I used the MSI
MBs when I needed to cut the overall cost down. I've also used some Soyos
and a couple of other lesser knowns but only for home use. Got them because
the were cheap.

I'd use ASUS again in a heartbeat.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:28 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?

On 24/01/06, DJK(John) Robinson <djkr at msn.com> wrote:
> John and Jim
>
> Thanks for this.  I'll definitely take a look at MSI and probably Asus.
>
> Cruising some of my usual suppliers, I see some "repaired under warranty"
> mobos at reduced price, mostly Gigabyte(6) but also some Asus(3) and
MSI(3).
> OK, not a big sample, nor a scientific one - I'd buy new myself 
> anyway, but seeing this stirred worries about quality.  Any thoughts on
this?
>
> Anyone else's experiences?

I've got an ASUS MOBO in my Athlon box and have never had an issue with it.

When I build my PVR, I'm more than likely going to go with and ASUS MOBO
again.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jan 24 09:47:41 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:47:41 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC846AB@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <00c701c620fd$83c61790$6f01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

You made it through?! What was your secret? ;o)

I've hit some bad web sites looking for drivers but I think Soyo's has to be
one of the worst.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda

Wow, I thought I was the only person in the world who'd bought a Soyo. Not
made that mistake again, got a high end Intel board with my P4 when I built
that. Trying to navigate Soyo's site for drivers was next to impossible...



From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Tue Jan 24 09:51:08 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:51:08 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC846AE@ALCUXB>

I gave up and went to Via's site instead... figured they'd know what to do
with the Via Chipset just as much as Soyo would :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: 24 January 2006 15:48
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?


You made it through?! What was your secret? ;o)

I've hit some bad web sites looking for drivers but I think Soyo's has to be
one of the worst.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda

Wow, I thought I was the only person in the world who'd bought a Soyo. Not
made that mistake again, got a high end Intel board with my P4 when I built
that. Trying to navigate Soyo's site for drivers was next to impossible...

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From marcus at tsstech.com  Tue Jan 24 10:30:52 2006
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:30:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D016F694C@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

Bryan,

FYI: When building your PVR with AMD, some have had trouble with SATA
and VIA chipsets. Personally, I've had problems with S3 Resume and VIA
chipsets.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:28 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?

On 24/01/06, DJK(John) Robinson <djkr at msn.com> wrote:
> John and Jim
>
> Thanks for this.  I'll definitely take a look at MSI and probably
Asus.
>
> Cruising some of my usual suppliers, I see some "repaired under
warranty"
> mobos at reduced price, mostly Gigabyte(6) but also some Asus(3) and
MSI(3).
> OK, not a big sample, nor a scientific one - I'd buy new myself
anyway, but
> seeing this stirred worries about quality.  Any thoughts on this?
>
> Anyone else's experiences?

I've got an ASUS MOBO in my Athlon box and have never had an issue with
it.

When I build my PVR, I'm more than likely going to go with and ASUS MOBO
again.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jan 24 10:55:26 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:55:26 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D016F694C@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <010401c62106$f995c3e0$6f01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Some of you have been using VOIP (probably Vonage) for quite some time. I've
been holding off. How is it going with that?



From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 12:52:55 2006
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:52:55 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
Message-ID: <39cb22f30601241052x75eb89f5n7324072e559fd6d2@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

I've dealt with a fair number of dying hard disks over the years, but
this one behaves differently.

It's a 20GB drive from a Gateway PC, vintage 2001 or so.  It's loaded
with Windows XP -- only 128 MB of RAM, though -- and it's pretty slow.
 But that isn't the problem.

The problem comes when it starts.  The POST will not appear on-screen
and the system hangs.  No drive activity.

I plugged it into another system as a slave drive on an add-on IDE
controller.  When I turn on the system I get just so far in the
Windows start up sequence and it hangs.  When I disconnect the drive,
everything's fine.

I booted up the second system with my copy of Gibson's Spin Rite 6 and
ran a level 4 routine on the drive.  Apparently the drive is segmented
into two pieces, one 20 GB, and the other maybe a few megabytes.  The
20 GB drive sailed right through Spin Rite's tests, but when testing
began on that second small partition, Spin Rite hung.  The screens in
Spin Rite still worked, I could flip back and forth between the
different screens; but I could not Esc out and terminate.  The Spin
Rite menus would co-operate with my keystrokes, but cancelling the
session simply had no effect.  I could not terminate Spin Rite's tests
in mid-stream.

So, it looks like the second partition is hosed in some way and that
affects the hardware's ability to boot the PC normally.  Any of you
have any ideas?  I have not yet tried fdisk to erase that small
partition.  That's my next step.

--
Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


From marcus at tsstech.com  Tue Jan 24 14:00:15 2006
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:00:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D016F694F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

Steve,

If you have an external enclosure, use it to back up all the data. I
believe the second small partition is used by windows for dual booting
purposes even if you don't dual boot. Sounds like the drive may be going
bad. I wouldn't risk using the drive when new HD's are so cheap.

Scott Marcus

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:53 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk

Dear Group,

I've dealt with a fair number of dying hard disks over the years, but
this one behaves differently.

It's a 20GB drive from a Gateway PC, vintage 2001 or so.  It's loaded
with Windows XP -- only 128 MB of RAM, though -- and it's pretty slow.
 But that isn't the problem.

The problem comes when it starts.  The POST will not appear on-screen
and the system hangs.  No drive activity.

I plugged it into another system as a slave drive on an add-on IDE
controller.  When I turn on the system I get just so far in the
Windows start up sequence and it hangs.  When I disconnect the drive,
everything's fine.

I booted up the second system with my copy of Gibson's Spin Rite 6 and
ran a level 4 routine on the drive.  Apparently the drive is segmented
into two pieces, one 20 GB, and the other maybe a few megabytes.  The
20 GB drive sailed right through Spin Rite's tests, but when testing
began on that second small partition, Spin Rite hung.  The screens in
Spin Rite still worked, I could flip back and forth between the
different screens; but I could not Esc out and terminate.  The Spin
Rite menus would co-operate with my keystrokes, but cancelling the
session simply had no effect.  I could not terminate Spin Rite's tests
in mid-stream.

So, it looks like the second partition is hosed in some way and that
affects the hardware's ability to boot the PC normally.  Any of you
have any ideas?  I have not yet tried fdisk to erase that small
partition.  That's my next step.

--
Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Jan 24 15:51:24 2006
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:51:24 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B62DE@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

This second small partion (probably 8 or 10 MB  or so) is either the
system tools partition of your computer or the 8MB space Windows keeps
free when formatting in NTFS. So I wouldn't bother about that.

I would advice you to try to put this disk as a primary on your second
IDE controller in that other system and try to boot normaly on that
system. Then scan the faulty disk for virusses from your working system.
Also perform a checkdisk (mark fix en scan surface)

You could also try to see if its a MBR problem.
Format a floppy disk on a XP computer, copy the boot.ini, ntldr and
ntdetect.com to the floppy and alter the boot.ini file if necesary to
point to the disknumber and windows folder of the corrupt disk.
Try booting from the floppy on the corrupt system.
This way you can test if it is a MBR or track 0 problem.

There is a command called fixmbr to fix MBR but I'm not if you can do
this from a working system where the disk added. You can from the
windows XP command prompt (recovery console?).
You need to boot from the XP CD for this

Erwin



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:53 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk

Dear Group,

I've dealt with a fair number of dying hard disks over the years, but
this one behaves differently.

It's a 20GB drive from a Gateway PC, vintage 2001 or so.  It's loaded
with Windows XP -- only 128 MB of RAM, though -- and it's pretty slow.
 But that isn't the problem.

The problem comes when it starts.  The POST will not appear on-screen
and the system hangs.  No drive activity.

I plugged it into another system as a slave drive on an add-on IDE
controller.  When I turn on the system I get just so far in the Windows
start up sequence and it hangs.  When I disconnect the drive,
everything's fine.

I booted up the second system with my copy of Gibson's Spin Rite 6 and
ran a level 4 routine on the drive.  Apparently the drive is segmented
into two pieces, one 20 GB, and the other maybe a few megabytes.  The 20
GB drive sailed right through Spin Rite's tests, but when testing began
on that second small partition, Spin Rite hung.  The screens in Spin
Rite still worked, I could flip back and forth between the different
screens; but I could not Esc out and terminate.  The Spin Rite menus
would co-operate with my keystrokes, but cancelling the session simply
had no effect.  I could not terminate Spin Rite's tests in mid-stream.

So, it looks like the second partition is hosed in some way and that
affects the hardware's ability to boot the PC normally.  Any of you have
any ideas?  I have not yet tried fdisk to erase that small partition.
That's my next step.

--
Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Tue Jan 24 16:54:39 2006
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:54:39 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE:  Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <20060118145958.C132C631@dm17.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <20060124145442.F8F42872@dm16.mta.everyone.net>

Did you get this solved?
Kathryn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 3:00 pm
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
> 
> Try this: turn off computer, then unplug the router for a 
> minute, turn it back on, then boot up again. I was having a 
> problem at work, (though the problem was connecting to the 
> wireless). Tried all kinds of things but rebooting the router 
> did the trick - not using the button reset, but actually unplugging.
> 
> --
> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
> "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
> kathryn at bassett.net
> http://bassett.net   
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jon Tydda
> > Sent: 18 Jan 2006 9:24 am
> > To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
> > 
> > Hi All
> >  
> > Got a weird one for you
> >  
> > I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either 
> > connected to the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain 
> > ALCONTROLUK cannot be found". Normally, if you can't get on to the 
> > network, it'll still log you on with old cached 
> credentials, providing 
> > you use the correct old password, like laptops do when 
> they're at home 
> > - this one won't.
> >  
> > I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to expire 
> > it's IP address or something, and I'm going to leave it a couple of 
> > days before I plug it back in, but I was wondering if 
> anyone had seen 
> > anything like it before and could offer any suggestions?
> >  
> > Thanks
> >  
> >  
> > Jon
> > 
> > 
> > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also 
> be legally 
> > privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are 
> > subject to the legal notice available on request from : 
> > webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a 
> trading division 
> > of ALcontrol UK Limited.
> > Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 
> > 1BZ.
> > Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Jan 24 17:08:32 2006
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:08:32 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE:  Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <20060124145442.F8F42872@dm16.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <000401c6213b$186de480$0300a8c0@jt2>

Sorry, yes I did... I restarted it for the nth time, booted into sage mode
with networking, logged in, it tried to access the network, bluescreened,
restarted and has been working fine since then. I've run anti-virus,
anti-spyware, you name it, but I've found nothing. Weird, huh?


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: 24 January 2006 22:55
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem

Did you get this solved?
Kathryn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn 
> Bassett
> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 3:00 pm
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
> 
> Try this: turn off computer, then unplug the router for a minute, turn 
> it back on, then boot up again. I was having a problem at work, 
> (though the problem was connecting to the wireless). Tried all kinds 
> of things but rebooting the router did the trick - not using the 
> button reset, but actually unplugging.
> 
> --
> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is 
> my soap"
> kathryn at bassett.net
> http://bassett.net   
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Jon Tydda
> > Sent: 18 Jan 2006 9:24 am
> > To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
> > 
> > Hi All
> >  
> > Got a weird one for you
> >  
> > I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either 
> > connected to the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain 
> > ALCONTROLUK cannot be found". Normally, if you can't get on to the 
> > network, it'll still log you on with old cached
> credentials, providing
> > you use the correct old password, like laptops do when
> they're at home
> > - this one won't.
> >  
> > I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to expire 
> > it's IP address or something, and I'm going to leave it a couple of 
> > days before I plug it back in, but I was wondering if
> anyone had seen
> > anything like it before and could offer any suggestions?
> >  
> > Thanks
> >  
> >  
> > Jon
> > 
> > 
> > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also
> be legally
> > privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are 
> > subject to the legal notice available on request from :
> > webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a
> trading division
> > of ALcontrol UK Limited.
> > Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 
> > 1BZ.
> > Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jan 24 19:36:43 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:36:43 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE:  Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <000401c6213b$186de480$0300a8c0@jt2>
References: <000401c6213b$186de480$0300a8c0@jt2>
Message-ID: <43D6D62B.5090105@san.rr.com>

Ah, sage mode.  Yes.  Invoking Biblical wisdom to solve technical 
problems.  I do that, too.  I have also used percussive maintenance to 
good effect.

Rocky


Jon Tydda wrote:
> Sorry, yes I did... I restarted it for the nth time, booted into sage mode
> with networking, logged in, it tried to access the network, bluescreened,
> restarted and has been working fine since then. I've run anti-virus,
> anti-spyware, you name it, but I've found nothing. Weird, huh?
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: 24 January 2006 22:55
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem
>
> Did you get this solved?
> Kathryn
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn 
>> Bassett
>> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 3:00 pm
>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
>>
>> Try this: turn off computer, then unplug the router for a minute, turn 
>> it back on, then boot up again. I was having a problem at work, 
>> (though the problem was connecting to the wireless). Tried all kinds 
>> of things but rebooting the router did the trick - not using the 
>> button reset, but actually unplugging.
>>
>> --
>> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is 
>> my soap"
>> kathryn at bassett.net
>> http://bassett.net   
>>
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>>       
>> Jon Tydda
>>     
>>> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 9:24 am
>>> To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>  
>>> Got a weird one for you
>>>  
>>> I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either 
>>> connected to the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain 
>>> ALCONTROLUK cannot be found". Normally, if you can't get on to the 
>>> network, it'll still log you on with old cached
>>>       
>> credentials, providing
>>     
>>> you use the correct old password, like laptops do when
>>>       
>> they're at home
>>     
>>> - this one won't.
>>>  
>>> I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to expire 
>>> it's IP address or something, and I'm going to leave it a couple of 
>>> days before I plug it back in, but I was wondering if
>>>       
>> anyone had seen
>>     
>>> anything like it before and could offer any suggestions?
>>>  
>>> Thanks
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also
>>>       
>> be legally
>>     
>>> privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are 
>>> subject to the legal notice available on request from :
>>> webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a
>>>       
>> trading division
>>     
>>> of ALcontrol UK Limited.
>>> Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 
>>> 1BZ.
>>> Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>     
>
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Jan 24 21:08:18 2006
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:08:18 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reliable mobo maker for Athlon?
In-Reply-To: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D016F694C@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP1280F7D639C5DA382C6BCFAE120@CEZ.ICE>

On 24 Jan 2006 at 11:30, Scott Marcus wrote:

> FYI: When building your PVR with AMD, some have had trouble with SATA
> and VIA chipsets. Personally, I've had problems with S3 Resume and VIA
> chipsets.

Thanks for the heads up.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Windows 95/NT - 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit 
patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit 
microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of 
competition. :)




From jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com  Tue Jan 24 23:01:01 2006
From: jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John Colby)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:01:01 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE:  Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <43D6D62B.5090105@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00ac01c6216c$56f996a0$647aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>I have also used percussive maintenance to good effect.

"Get a bigger hammer!"  One of my personal favorites as well. 


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:37 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem

Ah, sage mode.  Yes.  Invoking Biblical wisdom to solve technical problems.
I do that, too.  I have also used percussive maintenance to good effect.

Rocky


Jon Tydda wrote:
> Sorry, yes I did... I restarted it for the nth time, booted into sage 
> mode with networking, logged in, it tried to access the network, 
> bluescreened, restarted and has been working fine since then. I've run 
> anti-virus, anti-spyware, you name it, but I've found nothing. Weird, huh?
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn 
> Bassett
> Sent: 24 January 2006 22:55
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem
>
> Did you get this solved?
> Kathryn
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn 
>> Bassett
>> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 3:00 pm
>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
>>
>> Try this: turn off computer, then unplug the router for a minute, 
>> turn it back on, then boot up again. I was having a problem at work, 
>> (though the problem was connecting to the wireless). Tried all kinds 
>> of things but rebooting the router did the trick - not using the 
>> button reset, but actually unplugging.
>>
>> --
>> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is 
>> my soap"
>> kathryn at bassett.net
>> http://bassett.net   
>>
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>>       
>> Jon Tydda
>>     
>>> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 9:24 am
>>> To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>  
>>> Got a weird one for you
>>>  
>>> I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either 
>>> connected to the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain 
>>> ALCONTROLUK cannot be found". Normally, if you can't get on to the 
>>> network, it'll still log you on with old cached
>>>       
>> credentials, providing
>>     
>>> you use the correct old password, like laptops do when
>>>       
>> they're at home
>>     
>>> - this one won't.
>>>  
>>> I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to expire 
>>> it's IP address or something, and I'm going to leave it a couple of 
>>> days before I plug it back in, but I was wondering if
>>>       
>> anyone had seen
>>     
>>> anything like it before and could offer any suggestions?
>>>  
>>> Thanks
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also
>>>       
>> be legally
>>     
>>> privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are 
>>> subject to the legal notice available on request from :
>>> webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a
>>>       
>> trading division
>>     
>>> of ALcontrol UK Limited.
>>> Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 
>>> 1BZ.
>>> Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>     
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jan 24 23:12:14 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:12:14 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE:  Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <00ac01c6216c$56f996a0$647aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <00ac01c6216c$56f996a0$647aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <43D708AE.2050001@san.rr.com>

If it doesn't fit...force it?

Rocky


John Colby wrote:
>> I have also used percussive maintenance to good effect.
>>     
>
> "Get a bigger hammer!"  One of my personal favorites as well. 
>
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:37 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem
>
> Ah, sage mode.  Yes.  Invoking Biblical wisdom to solve technical problems.
> I do that, too.  I have also used percussive maintenance to good effect.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> Jon Tydda wrote:
>   
>> Sorry, yes I did... I restarted it for the nth time, booted into sage 
>> mode with networking, logged in, it tried to access the network, 
>> bluescreened, restarted and has been working fine since then. I've run 
>> anti-virus, anti-spyware, you name it, but I've found nothing. Weird, huh?
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn 
>> Bassett
>> Sent: 24 January 2006 22:55
>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem
>>
>> Did you get this solved?
>> Kathryn
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn 
>>> Bassett
>>> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 3:00 pm
>>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
>>>
>>> Try this: turn off computer, then unplug the router for a minute, 
>>> turn it back on, then boot up again. I was having a problem at work, 
>>> (though the problem was connecting to the wireless). Tried all kinds 
>>> of things but rebooting the router did the trick - not using the 
>>> button reset, but actually unplugging.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is 
>>> my soap"
>>> kathryn at bassett.net
>>> http://bassett.net   
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Jon Tydda
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 9:24 am
>>>> To: Dba-Tech (E-mail)
>>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
>>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>>  
>>>> Got a weird one for you
>>>>  
>>>> I have a pc that won't let anyone log onto it. At all. Either 
>>>> connected to the network or not. When you try, it says "The domain 
>>>> ALCONTROLUK cannot be found". Normally, if you can't get on to the 
>>>> network, it'll still log you on with old cached
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> credentials, providing
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> you use the correct old password, like laptops do when
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> they're at home
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> - this one won't.
>>>>  
>>>> I've unplugged it from the network to see if I can get it to expire 
>>>> it's IP address or something, and I'm going to leave it a couple of 
>>>> days before I plug it back in, but I was wondering if
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> anyone had seen
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> anything like it before and could offer any suggestions?
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> be legally
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are 
>>>> subject to the legal notice available on request from :
>>>> webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> trading division
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> of ALcontrol UK Limited.
>>>> Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 
>>>> 1BZ.
>>>> Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>     
>>>       
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Wed Jan 25 03:09:15 2006
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:09:15 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE:  Weird PC logon problem
Message-ID: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC846B4@ALCUXB>

D'oh! I did of course mean safe mode. I don't think that herbs are going to
help computers very often :-)


JOn

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: 25 January 2006 01:37
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem


Ah, sage mode.  Yes.  Invoking Biblical wisdom to solve technical 
problems.  I do that, too.  I have also used percussive maintenance to 
good effect.

Rocky


Jon Tydda wrote:
> Sorry, yes I did... I restarted it for the nth time, booted into sage mode
> with networking, logged in, it tried to access the network, bluescreened,
> restarted and has been working fine since then. I've run anti-virus,
> anti-spyware, you name it, but I've found nothing. Weird, huh?
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn
Bassett
> Sent: 24 January 2006 22:55
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem
>
> Did you get this solved?
> Kathryn
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn 
>> Bassett
>> Sent: 18 Jan 2006 3:00 pm
>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
>>
>> Try this: turn off computer, then unplug the router for a minute, turn 
>> it back on, then boot up again. I was having a problem at work, 
>> (though the problem was connecting to the wireless). Tried all kinds 
>> of things but rebooting the router did the trick - not using the 
>> button reset, but actually unplugging.
>>
>> --
>> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is 
>> my soap"
>> kathryn at bassett.net
>> http://bassett.net


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jan 25 05:02:22 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:02:22 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE:  Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <87C856B802C3D511B69B0002A5CD10EAC846B4@ALCUXB>
Message-ID: <43D7E75E.16489.6BF8F5F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Sage (Sage), n.
A wise man; a man of gravity and wisdom; especially, a man venerable for 
years, and of sound judgment and prudence; a grave philosopher. 

Sounds like quite a few on this list :-)

On 25 Jan 2006 at 9:09, Jon Tydda wrote:

> D'oh! I did of course mean safe mode. I don't think that herbs are going to
> help computers very often :-)
> 
> 
> JOn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: 25 January 2006 01:37
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem
> 
> 
> Ah, sage mode.  Yes.  Invoking Biblical wisdom to solve technical 
> problems.  I do that, too.  I have also used percussive maintenance to good
> effect.
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> Jon Tydda wrote:
> > Sorry, yes I did... I restarted it for the nth time, booted into sage mode
> > with networking, logged in, it tried to access the network, bluescreened,
> > restarted and has been working fine since then. I've run anti-virus,
> > anti-spyware, you name it, but I've found nothing. Weird, huh?
> >
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn
> Bassett
> > Sent: 24 January 2006 22:55
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem
> >
> > Did you get this solved?
> > Kathryn
> >
> >   
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn
> >> Bassett Sent: 18 Jan 2006 3:00 pm To: 'Discussion of Hardware and
> >> Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
> >>
> >> Try this: turn off computer, then unplug the router for a minute, turn it
> >> back on, then boot up again. I was having a problem at work, (though the
> >> problem was connecting to the wireless). Tried all kinds of things but
> >> rebooting the router did the trick - not using the button reset, but
> >> actually unplugging.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my
> >> soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net
> 
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jan 25 10:24:17 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:24:17 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE:  Weird PC logon problem
In-Reply-To: <43D7E75E.16489.6BF8F5F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <43D7E75E.16489.6BF8F5F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <43D7A631.8080202@san.rr.com>

In technical acumen, some of us are men of gravity.  Some of us just suck.

Rocky


Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> Sage (Sage), n.
> A wise man; a man of gravity and wisdom; especially, a man venerable for 
> years, and of sound judgment and prudence; a grave philosopher. 
>
> Sounds like quite a few on this list :-)
>
> On 25 Jan 2006 at 9:09, Jon Tydda wrote:
>
>   
>> D'oh! I did of course mean safe mode. I don't think that herbs are going to
>> help computers very often :-)
>>
>>
>> JOn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
>> Sent: 25 January 2006 01:37
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem
>>
>>
>> Ah, sage mode.  Yes.  Invoking Biblical wisdom to solve technical 
>> problems.  I do that, too.  I have also used percussive maintenance to good
>> effect.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> Jon Tydda wrote:
>>     
>>> Sorry, yes I did... I restarted it for the nth time, booted into sage mode
>>> with networking, logged in, it tried to access the network, bluescreened,
>>> restarted and has been working fine since then. I've run anti-virus,
>>> anti-spyware, you name it, but I've found nothing. Weird, huh?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn
>>>       
>> Bassett
>>     
>>> Sent: 24 January 2006 22:55
>>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attn Jon - RE: Weird PC logon problem
>>>
>>> Did you get this solved?
>>> Kathryn
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn
>>>> Bassett Sent: 18 Jan 2006 3:00 pm To: 'Discussion of Hardware and
>>>> Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Weird PC logon problem
>>>>
>>>> Try this: turn off computer, then unplug the router for a minute, turn it
>>>> back on, then boot up again. I was having a problem at work, (though the
>>>> problem was connecting to the wireless). Tried all kinds of things but
>>>> rebooting the router did the trick - not using the button reset, but
>>>> actually unplugging.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my
>>>> soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net
>>>>         
>> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally
>> privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to
>> the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk
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>
>   

-- 
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Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com



From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Wed Jan 25 11:26:38 2006
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:26:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D170558D3C7@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>

To access our agency's data we have to use this %$#@& Oracle tool called
Discoverer.  Could one access Oracle tables using Access as a front end
through an ODBC connection.  If so, would it be a big deal to set this
up.  The last time I asked, the IT answer was we can't do that.  Never
got a why we can't do that???  Anyway, that person is now gone and I'm
wondering if I should give it another try.
Any thoughts/advice appreciated.
Ed
 
Edward P. Tesiny
Assistant Director for Evaluation
Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement
New York State OASAS
1450 Western Ave.
Albany, New York  12203-3526
Phone:  (518) 485-7189
Fax:  (518) 485-5769
Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
 


From djkr at msn.com  Wed Jan 25 12:23:30 2006
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:23:30 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
In-Reply-To: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D170558D3C7@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV30E5133FEE8536DE78F2DD2120@phx.gbl>

You can certainly reach Oracle tables from Access as front end via ODBC.  I
haven't done it recently - not since 2005 - so I'm rusty on details, but it
should NOT be a big deal!

(Setting it up initially needs: permissions obviously, DSN, and - uh -
something else Oracle-oriented on your PC I think.  Sorry, brain is
elsewhere!)

John


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed
Sent: 25 January 2006 17:27
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle


To access our agency's data we have to use this %$#@& Oracle tool called
Discoverer.  Could one access Oracle tables using Access as a front end
through an ODBC connection.  If so, would it be a big deal to set this up.
The last time I asked, the IT answer was we can't do that.  Never got a why
we can't do that???  Anyway, that person is now gone and I'm wondering if I
should give it another try. Any thoughts/advice appreciated. Ed
 
Edward P. Tesiny
Assistant Director for Evaluation
Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement
New York State OASAS
1450 Western Ave.
Albany, New York  12203-3526
Phone:  (518) 485-7189
Fax:  (518) 485-5769
Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
 
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Jan 25 12:28:18 2006
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:28:18 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
References: <000201c621dc$717b8540$35eb0e05@dabsight>
Message-ID: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2025E46@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Been a while but I think you may need SQL Net in addition to the ODBC drivers for Oracle but not 100% as its been some years form I used Access with Oracle. 
 
Bit of code from net below.
 
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Function AttachTable() As Variant
  On Error GoTo AttachTable_Err

  Dim db As Database
  Dim tdef As TableDef
  Dim strConnect As String

  Set db = CurrentDb()
  strConnect = "ODBC;DSN=oraweb;DBQ=qit-uq-cbiw_oraweb;DATABASE="
  ' NOTE: DSN is your ODBC Data Source Name; DBQ is your TNSNAMES.ORA entry name

  Set tdef = db.CreateTableDef("MY_ACCESS_TABLENAME")
  ' tdef.Attributes DB_ATTACHEDODBC
  tdef.Connect = strConnect
  tdef.SourceTableName = "MY_ORACLE_TABLENAME"
  db.TableDefs.Append tdef

AttachTable_Exit:
  Exit Function

AttachTable_Err:
  MsgBox "Error: " & Str(Err) & " - " & Error$ & " occured in global module."
  Resume AttachTable_Exit

End Function

 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

________________________________

From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of DJK(John) Robinson
Sent: Wed 25/01/2006 18:23
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle



You can certainly reach Oracle tables from Access as front end via ODBC.  I
haven't done it recently - not since 2005 - so I'm rusty on details, but it
should NOT be a big deal!

(Setting it up initially needs: permissions obviously, DSN, and - uh -
something else Oracle-oriented on your PC I think.  Sorry, brain is
elsewhere!)

John


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed
Sent: 25 January 2006 17:27
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle


To access our agency's data we have to use this %$#@& Oracle tool called
Discoverer.  Could one access Oracle tables using Access as a front end
through an ODBC connection.  If so, would it be a big deal to set this up.
The last time I asked, the IT answer was we can't do that.  Never got a why
we can't do that???  Anyway, that person is now gone and I'm wondering if I
should give it another try. Any thoughts/advice appreciated. Ed

Edward P. Tesiny
Assistant Director for Evaluation
Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement
New York State OASAS
1450 Western Ave.
Albany, New York  12203-3526
Phone:  (518) 485-7189
Fax:  (518) 485-5769
Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Jan 25 12:33:35 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:33:35 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
In-Reply-To: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D170558D3C7@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>
References: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D170558D3C7@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950601251033t18ba0f09v57646fb0bafc424d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ed,

Most certainly it is possible. I access Oracle data tables from Access
every day. Write applications for others to do it too.

You need to have an Oracle Database login. This may be an issue as
that allows you to loginto the database directly whereas with
Discoverer you are only given the access that is defined for that
tool. I use a seperate Oracle Database login from my regular one - one
that has Read Only access to the specific tables that I need to get
into in Access. With this login you can also use regular Oracle SQL to
query the Oracle database and output the results either to screen or
to a text file. You would do this through a tool like SQL Plus, SQL
Navigotor or TOAD. If you are using one of these tools you maybe
already have a Oracle Database Login. If you don't perhaps you don't
have the login you need. In our shop we also use Oracle Applications
and everybody has an Oracle Applications login, but that is not the
same as an Oracle Database Login and whenever someone needs one of
those to be set up the computer support folks seem to be confused.....
Our Database Administrators have to set up the Oracle Database Login.

Anyway, once you have a login, you will need to set up an ODBC Data
Source. You do this in Settings/Control Panel/Administrative
Tools/Data Sources (ODBC).

I have had good luck using either the Oracle ODBC Driver or the
Microsoft one. I have been able to access either Oracle 8i and 9i
format databases without problems

I always set mine up as a SYSTEM DSN although someone else here used
FILE DSN for a while and that worked too. Confused me quite a lot
though wo when I was in that ap a while back I switched it back to MY
WAY ;-)

Here in order to make it work something called SQLNET has to have been
installed on the system too. That is a component that is used by all
those above mentioned SQL tools. And you need one magic file called a
TNSNAMES.ORA file that contains the list of the Oracle DATABASES and
where they are located on your network. In our case this is set up
when the SQLNET is set up but sometimes needs modifications to get at
newly added databases.

It would be good if you could get to be buddies with one of the
Database Admins cause they know all this stuff like the back of their
hands and they can help you out when you get stuck.

I think the biggest hurdle for you will be getting that database
login. If you don't need to update anything but only need to read
data, asking for READONLY access will often calm the data police a bit
but even with that they may need to restrict you to a finite list of
tables. - OH, ONE MORE THING. In our Oracle installation, we have SO
MANY TABLES - that it confused Access when I got to the point of
trying to link to the tables in my database and NONE came up on the
selection list. What we determined was that we needed to use a login
that had visiblity to a shorter list of tables for it to work. That
was originally why we set up a special Access into Oracle database
login. Since that time because of SOX, we have had to set up custom
logins for each Access into Oracle user that only gives them visiblity
to the tables they need to see in their application. If they need
additional visibility then the DBA has to modify their list before
they can see it. Our Oracle Applications database has more than 10K
tables in it so hopefully that issue wouldn't apply to everyone that
would have a smaller database.

This all works pretty well for me. The response can be good. It
depends on what you are querying and if you are using the indexes to
join on etc. We have some 60 million record tables in our system that
I can get (snap your fingers) kind of response on if I do it right. Or
it can take all day if I don't.

Let me know if I can answer any questions.

Gary

On 1/25/06, Tesiny, Ed <EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us> wrote:
> To access our agency's data we have to use this %$#@& Oracle tool called
> Discoverer.  Could one access Oracle tables using Access as a front end
> through an ODBC connection.  If so, would it be a big deal to set this
> up.  The last time I asked, the IT answer was we can't do that.  Never
> got a why we can't do that???  Anyway, that person is now gone and I'm
> wondering if I should give it another try.
> Any thoughts/advice appreciated.
> Ed
>
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jan 25 12:35:15 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:35:15 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
References: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D170558D3C7@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>
Message-ID: <43D7C4E3.4070105@shaw.ca>

Assuming you have password authorization why not.

http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForOracleFromMicrosoft

I would use OLEDB
Open the Control Panel and start the ODBC Data Sources applet.
To see what ODBC and OleDB drivers you have installed.

Open an Oracle database using ADO and ODBC
http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_ado_oracle.html


Tesiny, Ed wrote:

>To access our agency's data we have to use this %$#@& Oracle tool called
>Discoverer.  Could one access Oracle tables using Access as a front end
>through an ODBC connection.  If so, would it be a big deal to set this
>up.  The last time I asked, the IT answer was we can't do that.  Never
>got a why we can't do that???  Anyway, that person is now gone and I'm
>wondering if I should give it another try.
>Any thoughts/advice appreciated.
>Ed
> 
>Edward P. Tesiny
>Assistant Director for Evaluation
>Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement
>New York State OASAS
>1450 Western Ave.
>Albany, New York  12203-3526
>Phone:  (518) 485-7189
>Fax:  (518) 485-5769
>Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
> 
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>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Wed Jan 25 12:36:34 2006
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:36:34 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
In-Reply-To: <43D7C4E3.4070105@shaw.ca>
References: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D170558D3C7@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>
	<43D7C4E3.4070105@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <28104.65.196.182.34.1138214194.squirrel@65.196.182.34>

Ed,

It probably has more to do with security than any other factor. My major
client won't allow me to have any connection to Oracle of any type due to
their security guidelines. My data tables are populated by the users
running reports daily, saving them and kicking off Monarch processes
that's part of an ETL load to my access backends.

Jim



> Assuming you have password authorization why not.
>
> http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForOracleFromMicrosoft
>
> I would use OLEDB
> Open the Control Panel and start the ODBC Data Sources applet.
> To see what ODBC and OleDB drivers you have installed.
>
> Open an Oracle database using ADO and ODBC
> http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_ado_oracle.html
>
>
> Tesiny, Ed wrote:
>
>>To access our agency's data we have to use this %$#@& Oracle tool called
>>Discoverer.  Could one access Oracle tables using Access as a front end
>>through an ODBC connection.  If so, would it be a big deal to set this
>>up.  The last time I asked, the IT answer was we can't do that.  Never
>>got a why we can't do that???  Anyway, that person is now gone and I'm
>>wondering if I should give it another try.
>>Any thoughts/advice appreciated.
>>Ed
>>
>>Edward P. Tesiny
>>Assistant Director for Evaluation
>>Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement
>>New York State OASAS
>>1450 Western Ave.
>>Albany, New York  12203-3526
>>Phone:  (518) 485-7189
>>Fax:  (518) 485-5769
>>Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
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From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Wed Jan 25 13:27:52 2006
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:27:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D170558D3C8@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>

Many Thanks,
Gary, Martin, John, Marty, Jim

Thanks for all the info., now I can fill out paperwork to get this
approved.  It would make quite a few people happy, Discoverer just
doesn't make it.
Ed

Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:34 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> Most certainly it is possible. I access Oracle data tables from Access
> every day. Write applications for others to do it too.
> 
> You need to have an Oracle Database login. This may be an issue as
> that allows you to loginto the database directly whereas with
> Discoverer you are only given the access that is defined for that
> tool. I use a seperate Oracle Database login from my regular one - one
> that has Read Only access to the specific tables that I need to get
> into in Access. With this login you can also use regular Oracle SQL to
> query the Oracle database and output the results either to screen or
> to a text file. You would do this through a tool like SQL Plus, SQL
> Navigotor or TOAD. If you are using one of these tools you maybe
> already have a Oracle Database Login. If you don't perhaps you don't
> have the login you need. In our shop we also use Oracle Applications
> and everybody has an Oracle Applications login, but that is not the
> same as an Oracle Database Login and whenever someone needs one of
> those to be set up the computer support folks seem to be confused.....
> Our Database Administrators have to set up the Oracle Database Login.
> 
> Anyway, once you have a login, you will need to set up an ODBC Data
> Source. You do this in Settings/Control Panel/Administrative
> Tools/Data Sources (ODBC).
> 
> I have had good luck using either the Oracle ODBC Driver or the
> Microsoft one. I have been able to access either Oracle 8i and 9i
> format databases without problems
> 
> I always set mine up as a SYSTEM DSN although someone else here used
> FILE DSN for a while and that worked too. Confused me quite a lot
> though wo when I was in that ap a while back I switched it back to MY
> WAY ;-)
> 
> Here in order to make it work something called SQLNET has to have been
> installed on the system too. That is a component that is used by all
> those above mentioned SQL tools. And you need one magic file called a
> TNSNAMES.ORA file that contains the list of the Oracle DATABASES and
> where they are located on your network. In our case this is set up
> when the SQLNET is set up but sometimes needs modifications to get at
> newly added databases.
> 
> It would be good if you could get to be buddies with one of the
> Database Admins cause they know all this stuff like the back of their
> hands and they can help you out when you get stuck.
> 
> I think the biggest hurdle for you will be getting that database
> login. If you don't need to update anything but only need to read
> data, asking for READONLY access will often calm the data police a bit
> but even with that they may need to restrict you to a finite list of
> tables. - OH, ONE MORE THING. In our Oracle installation, we have SO
> MANY TABLES - that it confused Access when I got to the point of
> trying to link to the tables in my database and NONE came up on the
> selection list. What we determined was that we needed to use a login
> that had visiblity to a shorter list of tables for it to work. That
> was originally why we set up a special Access into Oracle database
> login. Since that time because of SOX, we have had to set up custom
> logins for each Access into Oracle user that only gives them visiblity
> to the tables they need to see in their application. If they need
> additional visibility then the DBA has to modify their list before
> they can see it. Our Oracle Applications database has more than 10K
> tables in it so hopefully that issue wouldn't apply to everyone that
> would have a smaller database.
> 
> This all works pretty well for me. The response can be good. It
> depends on what you are querying and if you are using the indexes to
> join on etc. We have some 60 million record tables in our system that
> I can get (snap your fingers) kind of response on if I do it right. Or
> it can take all day if I don't.
> 
> Let me know if I can answer any questions.
> 
> Gary
> 
> On 1/25/06, Tesiny, Ed <EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us> wrote:
> > To access our agency's data we have to use this %$#@& 
> Oracle tool called
> > Discoverer.  Could one access Oracle tables using Access as 
> a front end
> > through an ODBC connection.  If so, would it be a big deal 
> to set this
> > up.  The last time I asked, the IT answer was we can't do 
> that.  Never
> > got a why we can't do that???  Anyway, that person is now 
> gone and I'm
> > wondering if I should give it another try.
> > Any thoughts/advice appreciated.
> > Ed
> >
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jan 25 15:33:44 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:33:44 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
References: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D170558D3C7@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>
Message-ID: <43D7EEB8.1050703@shaw.ca>

This might help too.
ADO Data Type mapping Table between Visual Basic, Access, SQL Server, 
Oracle,
http://www.carlprothman.net/Technology/DataTypeMapping/tabid/97/Default.aspx

And you might look at acquiring TOAD for Oracle, the IT guys might 
appreciate it.

http://www.quest.com/toad/app_sqldeveloper.asp

Tesiny, Ed wrote:

>To access our agency's data we have to use this %$#@& Oracle tool called
>Discoverer.  Could one access Oracle tables using Access as a front end
>through an ODBC connection.  If so, would it be a big deal to set this
>up.  The last time I asked, the IT answer was we can't do that.  Never
>got a why we can't do that???  Anyway, that person is now gone and I'm
>wondering if I should give it another try.
>Any thoughts/advice appreciated.
>Ed
> 
>Edward P. Tesiny
>Assistant Director for Evaluation
>Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement
>New York State OASAS
>1450 Western Ave.
>Albany, New York  12203-3526
>Phone:  (518) 485-7189
>Fax:  (518) 485-5769
>Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Jan 25 15:59:39 2006
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:59:39 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B62E9@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


You can link Oracle tables but you can also access with ADO.
I'm not an Oracle specialist but for one customer I'm dooing this for
several years now.

You need to install, using the Oracle installer, a softwareaddition to
the Orcale client thats is called Office OLE something support. That way
you can use ODBC connections and link a table. I'm not really sure is
this is sufficiant but I believe so.
The use of ADO from VBA is by default supported, but I believe from
Orcale 8 or 9 on.


Ofcourse your Oracle client must already be instaleld and properly
configures (TNS).

Erwin 



-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens MartyConnelly
Verzonden: woensdag 25 januari 2006 22:34
Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle

This might help too.
ADO Data Type mapping Table between Visual Basic, Access, SQL Server,
Oracle,
http://www.carlprothman.net/Technology/DataTypeMapping/tabid/97/Default.
aspx

And you might look at acquiring TOAD for Oracle, the IT guys might
appreciate it.

http://www.quest.com/toad/app_sqldeveloper.asp

Tesiny, Ed wrote:

>To access our agency's data we have to use this %$#@& Oracle tool 
>called Discoverer.  Could one access Oracle tables using Access as a 
>front end through an ODBC connection.  If so, would it be a big deal to

>set this up.  The last time I asked, the IT answer was we can't do 
>that.  Never got a why we can't do that???  Anyway, that person is now 
>gone and I'm wondering if I should give it another try.
>Any thoughts/advice appreciated.
>Ed
> 
>Edward P. Tesiny
>Assistant Director for Evaluation
>Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement New York State OASAS 1450

>Western Ave.
>Albany, New York  12203-3526
>Phone:  (518) 485-7189
>Fax:  (518) 485-5769
>Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
> 
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 25 16:08:16 2006
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:08:16 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
In-Reply-To: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D016F694F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
References: <AcYhGEKJOu64jHHvT3ibwn2FUkDkQQACB77w>
	<B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D016F694F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30601251408x703fe963l512c9d092d9873fe@mail.gmail.com>

Scott,

Well, I'm primarily interested in getting the data off of it.  Perhaps
I didn't make it clear, but I can't seem to get at the data with that
catty-wampus 2nd partition gumming up the works.

Steve Erbach

On 1/24/06, Scott Marcus <marcus at tsstech.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> If you have an external enclosure, use it to back up all the data. I
> believe the second small partition is used by windows for dual booting
> purposes even if you don't dual boot. Sounds like the drive may be going
> bad. I wouldn't risk using the drive when new HD's are so cheap.
>
> Scott Marcus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:53 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
>
> Dear Group,
>
> I've dealt with a fair number of dying hard disks over the years, but
> this one behaves differently.
>
> It's a 20GB drive from a Gateway PC, vintage 2001 or so.  It's loaded
> with Windows XP -- only 128 MB of RAM, though -- and it's pretty slow.
>  But that isn't the problem.
>
> The problem comes when it starts.  The POST will not appear on-screen
> and the system hangs.  No drive activity.
>
> I plugged it into another system as a slave drive on an add-on IDE
> controller.  When I turn on the system I get just so far in the
> Windows start up sequence and it hangs.  When I disconnect the drive,
> everything's fine.
>
> I booted up the second system with my copy of Gibson's Spin Rite 6 and
> ran a level 4 routine on the drive.  Apparently the drive is segmented
> into two pieces, one 20 GB, and the other maybe a few megabytes.  The
> 20 GB drive sailed right through Spin Rite's tests, but when testing
> began on that second small partition, Spin Rite hung.  The screens in
> Spin Rite still worked, I could flip back and forth between the
> different screens; but I could not Esc out and terminate.  The Spin
> Rite menus would co-operate with my keystrokes, but cancelling the
> session simply had no effect.  I could not terminate Spin Rite's tests
> in mid-stream.
>
> So, it looks like the second partition is hosed in some way and that
> affects the hardware's ability to boot the PC normally.  Any of you
> have any ideas?  I have not yet tried fdisk to erase that small
> partition.  That's my next step.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach


From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 25 16:12:26 2006
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:12:26 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B62DE@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
References: <AcYhF3Bat+17W2ypRCWWRjFMzcVpfwAFw1Pw>
	<46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B62DE@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30601251412y2ad9161er1a1bf79a2797549b@mail.gmail.com>

Erwin,

I probably didn't explain myself well enough in my original post. 
When I said that I mounted the drive as a slave on a secondary IDE
controller -- an extra one mounted in a slot, not the secondary on the
 motherboard -- and that the system only got so far with Windows
before fading out, I meant that the C: drive of the system in question
was the one running Windows and that it didn't make it to the login
screen.

If the drive won't boot on its "home" system, I'm curious as to how it
could boot as the primary drive on the secondary controller.

Thanks for replying to my question.  You've given me an idea or two.

Steve Erbach

On 1/24/06, Erwin Craps - IT Helps <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> wrote:
> This second small partion (probably 8 or 10 MB  or so) is either the
> system tools partition of your computer or the 8MB space Windows keeps
> free when formatting in NTFS. So I wouldn't bother about that.
>
> I would advice you to try to put this disk as a primary on your second
> IDE controller in that other system and try to boot normaly on that
> system. Then scan the faulty disk for virusses from your working system.
> Also perform a checkdisk (mark fix en scan surface)
>
> You could also try to see if its a MBR problem.
> Format a floppy disk on a XP computer, copy the boot.ini, ntldr and
> ntdetect.com to the floppy and alter the boot.ini file if necesary to
> point to the disknumber and windows folder of the corrupt disk.
> Try booting from the floppy on the corrupt system.
> This way you can test if it is a MBR or track 0 problem.
>
> There is a command called fixmbr to fix MBR but I'm not if you can do
> this from a working system where the disk added. You can from the
> windows XP command prompt (recovery console?).
> You need to boot from the XP CD for this
>
> Erwin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:53 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
>
> Dear Group,
>
> I've dealt with a fair number of dying hard disks over the years, but
> this one behaves differently.
>
> It's a 20GB drive from a Gateway PC, vintage 2001 or so.  It's loaded
> with Windows XP -- only 128 MB of RAM, though -- and it's pretty slow.
>  But that isn't the problem.
>
> The problem comes when it starts.  The POST will not appear on-screen
> and the system hangs.  No drive activity.
>
> I plugged it into another system as a slave drive on an add-on IDE
> controller.  When I turn on the system I get just so far in the Windows
> start up sequence and it hangs.  When I disconnect the drive,
> everything's fine.
>
> I booted up the second system with my copy of Gibson's Spin Rite 6 and
> ran a level 4 routine on the drive.  Apparently the drive is segmented
> into two pieces, one 20 GB, and the other maybe a few megabytes.  The 20
> GB drive sailed right through Spin Rite's tests, but when testing began
> on that second small partition, Spin Rite hung.  The screens in Spin
> Rite still worked, I could flip back and forth between the different
> screens; but I could not Esc out and terminate.  The Spin Rite menus
> would co-operate with my keystrokes, but cancelling the session simply
> had no effect.  I could not terminate Spin Rite's tests in mid-stream.
>
> So, it looks like the second partition is hosed in some way and that
> affects the hardware's ability to boot the PC normally.  Any of you have
> any ideas?  I have not yet tried fdisk to erase that small partition.
> That's my next step.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jan 25 16:35:17 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:35:17 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
In-Reply-To: <000201c621dc$717b8540$35eb0e05@dabsight>
References: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D170558D3C7@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>
Message-ID: <43D889C5.17761.939F205@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Jan 2006 at 18:23, DJK(John) Robinson wrote:

> You can certainly reach Oracle tables from Access as front end via ODBC.  I
> haven't done it recently - not since 2005 - so I'm rusty on details, but it
> should NOT be a big deal!

Wow - a whole 25 days ago - no wonder you're rusty. :-)



-- 
Stuart




From djkr at msn.com  Wed Jan 25 16:44:34 2006
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:44:34 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle
In-Reply-To: <43D889C5.17761.939F205@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV21B3292F3379396E75234FD2120@phx.gbl>

LOL


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 25 January 2006 22:35
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Access/Oracle


On 25 Jan 2006 at 18:23, DJK(John) Robinson wrote:

> You can certainly reach Oracle tables from Access as front end via 
> ODBC.  I haven't done it recently - not since 2005 - so I'm rusty on 
> details, but it should NOT be a big deal!

Wow - a whole 25 days ago - no wonder you're rusty. :-)



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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Jan 26 01:28:52 2006
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:28:52 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B62EC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I own situation where a bad master/slave signaling was happening,
blocking access to the slave.

I give it a shot when you are busy mounting the drive. Be sure to set
the jumper to master.

I might have missed something, but does your BIOS see the drive?

Erwin



From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Jan 26 17:57:21 2006
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:57:21 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B62EC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B62EC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30601261557m3fd57ba3v6756bf99d06beeb5@mail.gmail.com>

Erwin,

There have been some developments.  See my reply to John.  Thank you
so much for your suggestions.

Steve Erbach

On 1/26/06, Erwin Craps - IT Helps <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> wrote:
> I own situation where a bad master/slave signaling was happening,
> blocking access to the slave.
>
> I give it a shot when you are busy mounting the drive. Be sure to set
> the jumper to master.
>
> I might have missed something, but does your BIOS see the drive?
>
> Erwin
>


From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jan 26 20:17:39 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:17:39 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30601261557m3fd57ba3v6756bf99d06beeb5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c622e7$d962d300$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Sorry Steve,
My message was offline so I'll copy and paste it into this reply...

-----------------------------------------------
>From Steve:
What I had done was take that 20 GB drive and connect it to the SIIG
UltraATA 66 PCI controller in my old workstation.  The added controller
added 2 IDE connectors to my system's existing two, allowing for 8 IDE
devices.

I set up the drive as a slave on the same cable as another IDE hard disk
that was a master.  I already have 3 hard disks in this particular system.
This almost-dead drive makes 4 hard disks.

When I boot up the system I first see the drives connected to the onboard
IDE controllers.  Everything's copacetic there.  Then I see the drives on
the SIIG controller...and that dying 20 GB drive is recognized by the
controller.  So far, so good.  But when Windows gets to the XP progress bar
screen with the Windows copyright information, the progress bar never gets
going.  That is, the blue lights that traverse the progress bar never
appear.  I have to power off the machine.

Next I connected the dying drive as a slave on one of the main IDE
connectors.  It's on the same IDE channel that controls the CD drive in that
system.  Start up again...and THIS time, Windows boots normally!  The only
thing different is that the drive is connected to one of the onboard IDE
controllers instead of the SIIG controller.

I'm not copying data from the dying drive -- which doesn't seem to be dying
anymore -- to another drive via the LAN.  This is my son's hard disk and his
old Gateway system has started to flake out.

I think I'll try putting his drive back into the Gateway to see if the
thing'll start. 
-----------------------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:57 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Almost dead hard disk

Erwin,

There have been some developments.  See my reply to John.  Thank you so much
for your suggestions.

Steve Erbach

On 1/26/06, Erwin Craps - IT Helps <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> wrote:
> I own situation where a bad master/slave signaling was happening, 
> blocking access to the slave.
>
> I give it a shot when you are busy mounting the drive. Be sure to set 
> the jumper to master.
>
> I might have missed something, but does your BIOS see the drive?
>
> Erwin
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jan 27 10:10:11 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:10:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD
In-Reply-To: <000001c622e7$d962d300$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <000d01c6235c$2695e940$8e01a8c0@rock>

A friend of mine has a DVD of a concert and he wants to turn its soundtrack
into a CD so he can play it in his car. Can this be done? I have both a DVD
and CD burner but I have never tried this. 
Any suggestions?
TIA,
Arthur



From Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com  Fri Jan 27 10:23:30 2006
From: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com (Ehlers, Rick)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:23:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD
Message-ID: <A49154D170A54C42BCA71C9770A931E701F40FFB@excincymb02.cinergy.com>

Arthur,

Couldn't you use a sound recorder software to "record" the output from
the sound card to an mp3 file?

Rick Ehlers
  Power Services
  Performance And Valuation
  Annex - EX510
  Phone: (513) 287-2047
  Fax: (513) 287-3698
  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Fuller
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:10 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD

A friend of mine has a DVD of a concert and he wants to turn its
soundtrack into a CD so he can play it in his car. Can this be done? I
have both a DVD and CD burner but I have never tried this. 
Any suggestions?
TIA,
Arthur


From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jan 27 20:18:41 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:18:41 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <010401c62106$f995c3e0$6f01a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <014b01c623b1$28c5c0f0$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Anybody using it? I'm particularly interested in how some of the advanced
features such as Voice mail & FAXing are working out. 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Some of you have been using VOIP (probably Vonage) for quite some time. I've
been holding off. How is it going with that?

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From jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com  Fri Jan 27 21:02:59 2006
From: jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John Colby)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:02:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <014b01c623b1$28c5c0f0$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <001b01c623b7$593487c0$657aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I have had Vonage for about 2 years now.  It works well, but is not without
issues.  It uses your internet connection so anything that affects that
affects your phone calls.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:19 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Anybody using it? I'm particularly interested in how some of the advanced
features such as Voice mail & FAXing are working out. 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Some of you have been using VOIP (probably Vonage) for quite some time. I've
been holding off. How is it going with that?

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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jan 27 21:31:18 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:31:18 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <001b01c623b7$593487c0$657aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <015c01c623bb$4dc8ce60$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Hi John,
Have you used the voicemail or fax services? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:03 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

I have had Vonage for about 2 years now.  It works well, but is not without
issues.  It uses your internet connection so anything that affects that
affects your phone calls.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:19 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Anybody using it? I'm particularly interested in how some of the advanced
features such as Voice mail & FAXing are working out. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Some of you have been using VOIP (probably Vonage) for quite some time. I've
been holding off. How is it going with that?

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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jan 27 22:00:10 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:00:10 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <015c01c623bb$4dc8ce60$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <015d01c623bf$55f800c0$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Also, does it save a lot over the traditional phone services - either in
money or stress?

I have DSL and its not a problem at all but my phone service is. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:31 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Hi John,
Have you used the voicemail or fax services? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:03 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

I have had Vonage for about 2 years now.  It works well, but is not without
issues.  It uses your internet connection so anything that affects that
affects your phone calls.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:19 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Anybody using it? I'm particularly interested in how some of the advanced
features such as Voice mail & FAXing are working out. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Some of you have been using VOIP (probably Vonage) for quite some time. I've
been holding off. How is it going with that?

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From jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com  Fri Jan 27 22:44:12 2006
From: jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John Colby)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:44:12 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <015c01c623bb$4dc8ce60$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <000301c623c5$7ccc96b0$657aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I have used the fax service, I purchase a fax number.  The modem has two
phone lines, one for phone, the other for fax.  You have to pay $10 / month
for the fax line, and for that get something like 500 minutes a month of
phone time.  Not sure of the details.  It really doesn't pay for me but it
"looks good" on my web site.  I also have an 800 number which costs $5 /
month for 100 minutes, then 4.9c / min after that.  Again, just an
"appearance" thing.

The voice mail works fine, and can automatically send an email to you, and
even include a wave file on the email so you can hear it on your computer.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:31 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Hi John,
Have you used the voicemail or fax services? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:03 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

I have had Vonage for about 2 years now.  It works well, but is not without
issues.  It uses your internet connection so anything that affects that
affects your phone calls.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:19 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Anybody using it? I'm particularly interested in how some of the advanced
features such as Voice mail & FAXing are working out. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Some of you have been using VOIP (probably Vonage) for quite some time. I've
been holding off. How is it going with that?

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From jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com  Fri Jan 27 23:07:59 2006
From: jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John Colby)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:07:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <015d01c623bf$55f800c0$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <000401c623c8$cf24bac0$657aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

It saves me a TON of money for regular phone, which I give some back to them
in the fax and 800 number.  It is $25+ for unlimited local/long distance
anywhere in the US and Canada.  Also very low rates to places like Mexico
and Ireland.  $25 for unlimited phone is dirt cheap.  Of course you have to
have high speed internet, but since I have to have that anyway for my
business, I don't count that as a "phone" expense.  I talk to my clients for
1 hour regularly, 3 hours often.  At 10c / minute that is $6 / hour.  So it
only takes a few hours to pay for the $25.  Plus we call family all over the
country and talk as long as we wish.  

It is better quality than Cellular.

As a result of having Vonage, I have no real use for the "unlimited middle
of the night and weekend (what were those hours again)" cell phone crapola,
and so I switched my Cellular to Virgin Mobile, where I am now paying less
than $5 per month for cell phone - I don't use cell a lot, just a "pay phone
in my pocket" kind of thing.  My cell is "pay as you go".  It costs me 25c /
minute for the first 10 minutes a day, then 10c / min after that.  It turns
out for my usage patterns (I may make / receive 1 call every few days) that
is just incredibly cheap.  My wife is the same way.  Not the plan for a
teenager however.

So with Virgin Mobile my wife and I both have a cell, and it costs us a
minimum of $5 / month apiece ($15 every 90 days to keep the number active).
Not bad for "a pay phone in your pocket" - and it uses the Sprint network so
the quality isn't too bad.  I paid $20 apiece for the phones, delivered to
my door.  Basic but with everything I need.  No camera or all that happy HS
but who cares.  It's a cell phone.  

I used to pay ATT $36 / month for ONE cell phone, and the "privilege" of a
two year contract, early termination fees, piss poor customer service, and
my wife and I were always having a discussion over who would carry it when
we went out.

So if a client calls on my cell, then it costs me more, but then my client
pays a high enough hourly rate that the cost of the call is buried in the
noise of expenses.  Plus, they really don't call me on my cell all that much
since I work from home most of the time, so they get me on my Vonage line.

So there you have it.  I do like Vonage, and I do like Virgin Mobile.  And
if you decide to use either, let me know as I can get a referral "bonus" if
you give either company a code that says I sent you.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:00 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Also, does it save a lot over the traditional phone services - either in
money or stress?

I have DSL and its not a problem at all but my phone service is. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:31 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Hi John,
Have you used the voicemail or fax services? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:03 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

I have had Vonage for about 2 years now.  It works well, but is not without
issues.  It uses your internet connection so anything that affects that
affects your phone calls.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:19 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Anybody using it? I'm particularly interested in how some of the advanced
features such as Voice mail & FAXing are working out. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

Some of you have been using VOIP (probably Vonage) for quite some time. I've
been holding off. How is it going with that?

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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jan 27 23:48:29 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:48:29 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <000401c623c8$cf24bac0$657aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <016a01c623ce$778444b0$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Thanks John, that's what I needed to hear!

I'll definitely put you down as a referral. If there's anything I need to
know to do that please just send it to me at:
john at winhaven.net

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby

It saves me a TON of money for regular phone, which I give some back to them
in the fax and 800 number.  It is $25+ for unlimited local/long distance
anywhere in the US and Canada.  Also very low rates to places like Mexico
and Ireland.  $25 for unlimited phone is dirt cheap.  Of course you have to
have high speed internet, but since I have to have that anyway for my
business, I don't count that as a "phone" expense.  I talk to my clients for
1 hour regularly, 3 hours often.  At 10c / minute that is $6 / hour.  So it
only takes a few hours to pay for the $25.  Plus we call family all over the
country and talk as long as we wish.  

It is better quality than Cellular.

As a result of having Vonage, I have no real use for the "unlimited middle
of the night and weekend (what were those hours again)" cell phone crapola,
and so I switched my Cellular to Virgin Mobile, where I am now paying less
than $5 per month for cell phone - I don't use cell a lot, just a "pay phone
in my pocket" kind of thing.  My cell is "pay as you go".  It costs me 25c /
minute for the first 10 minutes a day, then 10c / min after that.  It turns
out for my usage patterns (I may make / receive 1 call every few days) that
is just incredibly cheap.  My wife is the same way.  Not the plan for a
teenager however.

So with Virgin Mobile my wife and I both have a cell, and it costs us a
minimum of $5 / month apiece ($15 every 90 days to keep the number active).
Not bad for "a pay phone in your pocket" - and it uses the Sprint network so
the quality isn't too bad.  I paid $20 apiece for the phones, delivered to
my door.  Basic but with everything I need.  No camera or all that happy HS
but who cares.  It's a cell phone.  

I used to pay ATT $36 / month for ONE cell phone, and the "privilege" of a
two year contract, early termination fees, piss poor customer service, and
my wife and I were always having a discussion over who would carry it when
we went out.

So if a client calls on my cell, then it costs me more, but then my client
pays a high enough hourly rate that the cost of the call is buried in the
noise of expenses.  Plus, they really don't call me on my cell all that much
since I work from home most of the time, so they get me on my Vonage line.

So there you have it.  I do like Vonage, and I do like Virgin Mobile.  And
if you decide to use either, let me know as I can get a referral "bonus" if
you give either company a code that says I sent you.



From erbachs at gmail.com  Sat Jan 28 12:16:25 2006
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:16:25 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <016a01c623ce$778444b0$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <000401c623c8$cf24bac0$657aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<016a01c623ce$778444b0$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30601281016g345a4f41i4bf1aa8cdddfe86c@mail.gmail.com>

John,

Janet has a client over there on Lake Winneconne that uses Vonage. 
He's a retired executive and has called me a couple of times to get it
working properly.

He tells me that overseas per minute rates with Vonage are
astoundingly low...for some countries as low as 2 cents a minute.  He
calls overseas frequently, so that's why he got the service.

This fellow uses an HP OfficeJet for his faxing.  That was the only
problematical thing as far as I could tell.  I don't know if he's
using it much since we could get it to send but receiving was
funny...I think it was because he didn't have a separate phone number
for faxing.

His electronic setup for his equipment is a treat:  Laptop, USB
keyboard and mouse, USB hub, OfficeJet, two Vonage phones, 5-port
phone jack, Linksys RT31P2 router w/two phone ports, Linksys WRT54G
wireless router, Netopia DSL modem, and a phone line splitter for his
local phone and the IP line.  My diagram of his setup is a work of
art.

Steve Erbach

On 1/27/06, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> Thanks John, that's what I needed to hear!
>
> I'll definitely put you down as a referral. If there's anything I need to
> know to do that please just send it to me at:
> john at winhaven.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
>
> It saves me a TON of money for regular phone, which I give some back to them
> in the fax and 800 number.  It is $25+ for unlimited local/long distance
> anywhere in the US and Canada.  Also very low rates to places like Mexico
> and Ireland.  $25 for unlimited phone is dirt cheap.  Of course you have to
> have high speed internet, but since I have to have that anyway for my
> business, I don't count that as a "phone" expense.  I talk to my clients for
> 1 hour regularly, 3 hours often.  At 10c / minute that is $6 / hour.  So it
> only takes a few hours to pay for the $25.  Plus we call family all over the
> country and talk as long as we wish.
>
> It is better quality than Cellular.
>
> As a result of having Vonage, I have no real use for the "unlimited middle
> of the night and weekend (what were those hours again)" cell phone crapola,
> and so I switched my Cellular to Virgin Mobile, where I am now paying less
> than $5 per month for cell phone - I don't use cell a lot, just a "pay phone
> in my pocket" kind of thing.  My cell is "pay as you go".  It costs me 25c /
> minute for the first 10 minutes a day, then 10c / min after that.  It turns
> out for my usage patterns (I may make / receive 1 call every few days) that
> is just incredibly cheap.  My wife is the same way.  Not the plan for a
> teenager however.
>
> So with Virgin Mobile my wife and I both have a cell, and it costs us a
> minimum of $5 / month apiece ($15 every 90 days to keep the number active).
> Not bad for "a pay phone in your pocket" - and it uses the Sprint network so
> the quality isn't too bad.  I paid $20 apiece for the phones, delivered to
> my door.  Basic but with everything I need.  No camera or all that happy HS
> but who cares.  It's a cell phone.
>
> I used to pay ATT $36 / month for ONE cell phone, and the "privilege" of a
> two year contract, early termination fees, piss poor customer service, and
> my wife and I were always having a discussion over who would carry it when
> we went out.
>
> So if a client calls on my cell, then it costs me more, but then my client
> pays a high enough hourly rate that the cost of the call is buried in the
> noise of expenses.  Plus, they really don't call me on my cell all that much
> since I work from home most of the time, so they get me on my Vonage line.
>
> So there you have it.  I do like Vonage, and I do like Virgin Mobile.  And
> if you decide to use either, let me know as I can get a referral "bonus" if
> you give either company a code that says I sent you.
>
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>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Sat Jan 28 12:20:31 2006
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:20:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD
In-Reply-To: <000d01c6235c$2695e940$8e01a8c0@rock>
References: <000001c622e7$d962d300$7201a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
	<000d01c6235c$2695e940$8e01a8c0@rock>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30601281020j2753b2c3se46854a28d8268f9@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur,

Interesting.  My wife has frequently taken cassette tapes and
converted them to CD using the tape deck's output into the sound card.
 Methinks that you'd have to do something like that since, clearly,
you can't make a digital copy.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On 1/27/06, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> A friend of mine has a DVD of a concert and he wants to turn its soundtrack
> into a CD so he can play it in his car. Can this be done? I have both a DVD
> and CD burner but I have never tried this.
> Any suggestions?
> TIA,
> Arthur


From jon at tydda.plus.com  Sat Jan 28 12:27:53 2006
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:27:53 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30601281020j2753b2c3se46854a28d8268f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003501c62438$8d69d690$0300a8c0@jt2>

My dad's gota bit of software which records anything put through the sound
card and turns it into MP3, WAV etc... It works pretty well, unless you've
got system sounds, as they come through as well :-P

Can't remember what it's called, but I'll find out and post again later.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: 28 January 2006 18:21
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD

Arthur,

Interesting.  My wife has frequently taken cassette tapes and converted them
to CD using the tape deck's output into the sound card.
 Methinks that you'd have to do something like that since, clearly, you
can't make a digital copy.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On 1/27/06, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> A friend of mine has a DVD of a concert and he wants to turn its 
> soundtrack into a CD so he can play it in his car. Can this be done? I 
> have both a DVD and CD burner but I have never tried this.
> Any suggestions?
> TIA,
> Arthur
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Sat Jan 28 12:35:53 2006
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:35:53 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD
In-Reply-To: <003501c62438$8d69d690$0300a8c0@jt2>
Message-ID: <003701c62439$ad469e20$0300a8c0@jt2>

Super MP3 recorder is its name.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: 28 January 2006 18:28
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD

My dad's gota bit of software which records anything put through the sound
card and turns it into MP3, WAV etc... It works pretty well, unless you've
got system sounds, as they come through as well :-P

Can't remember what it's called, but I'll find out and post again later.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: 28 January 2006 18:21
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD

Arthur,

Interesting.  My wife has frequently taken cassette tapes and converted them
to CD using the tape deck's output into the sound card.
 Methinks that you'd have to do something like that since, clearly, you
can't make a digital copy.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On 1/27/06, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> A friend of mine has a DVD of a concert and he wants to turn its 
> soundtrack into a CD so he can play it in his car. Can this be done? I 
> have both a DVD and CD burner but I have never tried this.
> Any suggestions?
> TIA,
> Arthur
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From john at winhaven.net  Sat Jan 28 12:57:39 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:57:39 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30601281016g345a4f41i4bf1aa8cdddfe86c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00cf01c6243c$b68ed710$7301a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Steve,
Thanks for the info.

I deal with a few of his type too. I always feel like I'm walking into
museums or something. Huge houses with no one in them. Butte des Morts is
getting that way too.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:16 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VOIP / Vonage

John,

Janet has a client over there on Lake Winneconne that uses Vonage. 
He's a retired executive and has called me a couple of times to get it
working properly.

He tells me that overseas per minute rates with Vonage are astoundingly
low...for some countries as low as 2 cents a minute.  He calls overseas
frequently, so that's why he got the service.

This fellow uses an HP OfficeJet for his faxing.  That was the only
problematical thing as far as I could tell.  I don't know if he's using it
much since we could get it to send but receiving was funny...I think it was
because he didn't have a separate phone number for faxing.

His electronic setup for his equipment is a treat:  Laptop, USB keyboard and
mouse, USB hub, OfficeJet, two Vonage phones, 5-port phone jack, Linksys
RT31P2 router w/two phone ports, Linksys WRT54G wireless router, Netopia DSL
modem, and a phone line splitter for his local phone and the IP line.  My
diagram of his setup is a work of art.

Steve Erbach

On 1/27/06, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> Thanks John, that's what I needed to hear!
>
> I'll definitely put you down as a referral. If there's anything I need 
> to know to do that please just send it to me at:
> john at winhaven.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
>
> It saves me a TON of money for regular phone, which I give some back 
> to them in the fax and 800 number.  It is $25+ for unlimited 
> local/long distance anywhere in the US and Canada.  Also very low 
> rates to places like Mexico and Ireland.  $25 for unlimited phone is 
> dirt cheap.  Of course you have to have high speed internet, but since 
> I have to have that anyway for my business, I don't count that as a 
> "phone" expense.  I talk to my clients for
> 1 hour regularly, 3 hours often.  At 10c / minute that is $6 / hour.  
> So it only takes a few hours to pay for the $25.  Plus we call family 
> all over the country and talk as long as we wish.
>
> It is better quality than Cellular.
>
> As a result of having Vonage, I have no real use for the "unlimited 
> middle of the night and weekend (what were those hours again)" cell 
> phone crapola, and so I switched my Cellular to Virgin Mobile, where I 
> am now paying less than $5 per month for cell phone - I don't use cell 
> a lot, just a "pay phone in my pocket" kind of thing.  My cell is "pay 
> as you go".  It costs me 25c / minute for the first 10 minutes a day, 
> then 10c / min after that.  It turns out for my usage patterns (I may 
> make / receive 1 call every few days) that is just incredibly cheap.  
> My wife is the same way.  Not the plan for a teenager however.
>
> So with Virgin Mobile my wife and I both have a cell, and it costs us 
> a minimum of $5 / month apiece ($15 every 90 days to keep the number
active).
> Not bad for "a pay phone in your pocket" - and it uses the Sprint 
> network so the quality isn't too bad.  I paid $20 apiece for the 
> phones, delivered to my door.  Basic but with everything I need.  No 
> camera or all that happy HS but who cares.  It's a cell phone.
>
> I used to pay ATT $36 / month for ONE cell phone, and the "privilege" 
> of a two year contract, early termination fees, piss poor customer 
> service, and my wife and I were always having a discussion over who 
> would carry it when we went out.
>
> So if a client calls on my cell, then it costs me more, but then my 
> client pays a high enough hourly rate that the cost of the call is 
> buried in the noise of expenses.  Plus, they really don't call me on 
> my cell all that much since I work from home most of the time, so they get
me on my Vonage line.
>
> So there you have it.  I do like Vonage, and I do like Virgin Mobile.  
> And if you decide to use either, let me know as I can get a referral 
> "bonus" if you give either company a code that says I sent you.
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Jan 28 19:27:26 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:27:26 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
Message-ID: <43DC19FE.4080202@san.rr.com>

At last my PII W98 machine has died (moment of silence, please).  The 
only thing I EVER used it for lately was to play DOOM II - the only 
computer game I ever play.  Or like. (I tried the new one but I didn't 
care for it.)

SO DOOM II will not run on my P3 or P4 machines and I can't figure out 
why, but it has something to do with the sound card.  It responds 
really, really, slowly.  There must be some way to get it to run on 
those boxes but I'm completely out of ideas.

Anybody know how to get DOOM II running on a P4?

MTIA,

Rocky

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858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com



From john at winhaven.net  Sat Jan 28 19:45:46 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:45:46 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
In-Reply-To: <43DC19FE.4080202@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <015001c62475$b98bfa90$7301a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Never played Doom. 

Move the sound card from your old doomed pc to the new one. If the new one
has it built in to the motherboard go into the bios and disable that. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:27 PM
To: dba-tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed

At last my PII W98 machine has died (moment of silence, please).  The only
thing I EVER used it for lately was to play DOOM II - the only computer game
I ever play.  Or like. (I tried the new one but I didn't care for it.)

SO DOOM II will not run on my P3 or P4 machines and I can't figure out why,
but it has something to do with the sound card.  It responds really, really,
slowly.  There must be some way to get it to run on those boxes but I'm
completely out of ideas.

Anybody know how to get DOOM II running on a P4?

MTIA,

Rocky

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Jan 28 20:22:50 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:22:50 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
In-Reply-To: <015001c62475$b98bfa90$7301a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <015001c62475$b98bfa90$7301a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <43DC26FA.2040101@san.rr.com>

Ack.  Prefer not to do that to HAL9004 my primary P4 box (It was the 
PII, HAL9000, that died).  HAL9001, the P3 is my music machine - all the 
mp3 stuff, good speakers - & I wonder if I'll get the same sound 
quality. Little reluctant to disrupt that box.. 

HAL 9002, my old primary machine, is a P4 which is now Max's and I 
suppose I could monkey with that.  Except that now that he's in high 
school he's up studying late, just when I want to play. 

I've also got a COMPAQ laptop with crappy little internal speakers.  
Wonder if it'll play on that?

There is a DOS compatibility feature and I tried that already to no avail.

And the reason I think it has to do with the sound is that when I 
configure it to run with the internal speaker it runs fine but there's 
no real sound.  And in that game the sound is very important. 

Maybe I can find an old W98 machine around here for real cheap.

But I keep thinking there's gotta be a way to get it to run on the P3 or P4.


Rocky

John Bartow wrote:
> Never played Doom. 
>
> Move the sound card from your old doomed pc to the new one. If the new one
> has it built in to the motherboard go into the bios and disable that. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:27 PM
> To: dba-tech
> Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
>
> At last my PII W98 machine has died (moment of silence, please).  The only
> thing I EVER used it for lately was to play DOOM II - the only computer game
> I ever play.  Or like. (I tried the new one but I didn't care for it.)
>
> SO DOOM II will not run on my P3 or P4 machines and I can't figure out why,
> but it has something to do with the sound card.  It responds really, really,
> slowly.  There must be some way to get it to run on those boxes but I'm
> completely out of ideas.
>
> Anybody know how to get DOOM II running on a P4?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
>
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Sat Jan 28 21:06:55 2006
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 03:06:55 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
In-Reply-To: <43DC19FE.4080202@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000301c62481$0f82cf90$0300a8c0@jt2>

I bought the Doom collecters edition for $5 or so, and they all run ok on my
P4 3.2 in Xp Pro SP2. Didn't have to do anything special for them either.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: 29 January 2006 01:27
To: dba-tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed

At last my PII W98 machine has died (moment of silence, please).  The only
thing I EVER used it for lately was to play DOOM II - the only computer game
I ever play.  Or like. (I tried the new one but I didn't care for it.)

SO DOOM II will not run on my P3 or P4 machines and I can't figure out why,
but it has something to do with the sound card.  It responds really, really,
slowly.  There must be some way to get it to run on those boxes but I'm
completely out of ideas.

Anybody know how to get DOOM II running on a P4?

MTIA,

Rocky

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Jan 28 22:10:57 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:10:57 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
In-Reply-To: <000301c62481$0f82cf90$0300a8c0@jt2>
References: <000301c62481$0f82cf90$0300a8c0@jt2>
Message-ID: <43DC4051.7050207@san.rr.com>

Doom collectors edition.  Where do I get that?

Rocky


Jon Tydda wrote:
> I bought the Doom collecters edition for $5 or so, and they all run ok on my
> P4 3.2 in Xp Pro SP2. Didn't have to do anything special for them either.
>
>
> Jon 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: 29 January 2006 01:27
> To: dba-tech
> Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
>
> At last my PII W98 machine has died (moment of silence, please).  The only
> thing I EVER used it for lately was to play DOOM II - the only computer game
> I ever play.  Or like. (I tried the new one but I didn't care for it.)
>
> SO DOOM II will not run on my P3 or P4 machines and I can't figure out why,
> but it has something to do with the sound card.  It responds really, really,
> slowly.  There must be some way to get it to run on those boxes but I'm
> completely out of ideas.
>
> Anybody know how to get DOOM II running on a P4?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
>
> --
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Sun Jan 29 08:27:46 2006
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:27:46 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
In-Reply-To: <43DC4051.7050207@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000401c624e0$2ce16100$0300a8c0@jt2>

No idea, I found it in a shop sale here in Blighty.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: 29 January 2006 04:11
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed

Doom collectors edition.  Where do I get that?

Rocky


Jon Tydda wrote:
> I bought the Doom collecters edition for $5 or so, and they all run ok 
> on my
> P4 3.2 in Xp Pro SP2. Didn't have to do anything special for them either.
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: 29 January 2006 01:27
> To: dba-tech
> Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
>
> At last my PII W98 machine has died (moment of silence, please).  The 
> only thing I EVER used it for lately was to play DOOM II - the only 
> computer game I ever play.  Or like. (I tried the new one but I didn't 
> care for it.)
>
> SO DOOM II will not run on my P3 or P4 machines and I can't figure out 
> why, but it has something to do with the sound card.  It responds 
> really, really, slowly.  There must be some way to get it to run on 
> those boxes but I'm completely out of ideas.
>
> Anybody know how to get DOOM II running on a P4?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
>
> --
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> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From bgeldart at verizon.net  Sun Jan 29 08:35:26 2006
From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:35:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
In-Reply-To: <000401c624e0$2ce16100$0300a8c0@jt2>
References: <43DC4051.7050207@san.rr.com> <000401c624e0$2ce16100$0300a8c0@jt2>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20060129093156.03772048@incoming.verizon.net>

Jon & Rocky,

I remember years ago when my son was playing Doom, one of his first real PC 
computer games. There was a patch for it that allowed shooting chickens 
from hand-held cannons. Every time one was fired, instead of a loud roar, 
there was a loud chicken squawk. Funniest thing!!

Bob

At 1/29/2006 09:27 AM, you wrote:
>No idea, I found it in a shop sale here in Blighty.
>
>
>Jon
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
>Beach Access Software
>Sent: 29 January 2006 04:11
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
>
>Doom collectors edition.  Where do I get that?
>
>Rocky
>
>
>Jon Tydda wrote:
> > I bought the Doom collecters edition for $5 or so, and they all run ok
> > on my P4 3.2 in Xp Pro SP2. Didn't have to do anything special for them 
> either.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> >
> > At last my PII W98 machine has died (moment of silence, please).  The
> > only thing I EVER used it for lately was to play DOOM II - the only
> > computer game I ever play.  Or like. (I tried the new one but I didn't
> > care for it.)
> >
> > SO DOOM II will not run on my P3 or P4 machines and I can't figure out
> > why, but it has something to do with the sound card.  It responds
> > really, really, slowly.  There must be some way to get it to run on
> > those boxes but I'm completely out of ideas.
> >
> > Anybody know how to get DOOM II running on a P4?


Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Jan 29 09:53:14 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:53:14 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20060129093156.03772048@incoming.verizon.net>
References: <43DC4051.7050207@san.rr.com> <000401c624e0$2ce16100$0300a8c0@jt2>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20060129093156.03772048@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <43DCE4EA.3000202@san.rr.com>

I had a patch once called evil Barney.  One of the monsters was replaced 
by Barney.  You got to blow him apart over and over.  Had a pre-schooler 
at the time and had that dam Barney song going in the house all the 
time.  It was a very satisfying patch.

One of the things that keeps the game going for me is that people can 
make their own maps.  So there's hundreds of levels and dozens of total 
conversions you can download from the Web - some of which are quite 
beautiful and creative. 

Rocky

Bob Geldart wrote:
> Jon & Rocky,
>
> I remember years ago when my son was playing Doom, one of his first real PC 
> computer games. There was a patch for it that allowed shooting chickens 
> from hand-held cannons. Every time one was fired, instead of a loud roar, 
> there was a loud chicken squawk. Funniest thing!!
>
> Bob
>
> At 1/29/2006 09:27 AM, you wrote:
>   
>> No idea, I found it in a shop sale here in Blighty.
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
>> Beach Access Software
>> Sent: 29 January 2006 04:11
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
>>
>> Doom collectors edition.  Where do I get that?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> Jon Tydda wrote:
>>     
>>> I bought the Doom collecters edition for $5 or so, and they all run ok
>>> on my P4 3.2 in Xp Pro SP2. Didn't have to do anything special for them 
>>>       
>> either.
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
>>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>>>
>>> At last my PII W98 machine has died (moment of silence, please).  The
>>> only thing I EVER used it for lately was to play DOOM II - the only
>>> computer game I ever play.  Or like. (I tried the new one but I didn't
>>> care for it.)
>>>
>>> SO DOOM II will not run on my P3 or P4 machines and I can't figure out
>>> why, but it has something to do with the sound card.  It responds
>>> really, really, slowly.  There must be some way to get it to run on
>>> those boxes but I'm completely out of ideas.
>>>
>>> Anybody know how to get DOOM II running on a P4?
>>>       
>
>
> Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
> Maynard, MA
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Sun Jan 29 10:47:30 2006
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:47:30 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
In-Reply-To: <43DCE4EA.3000202@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <001301c624f3$b1fd7af0$0300a8c0@jt2>

One of my friends took digital pictures of himself, or more likely just
scanned some pics in (thinking about it, were digital cameras available in
1996?) and put them into the game, so when we played multi-player at
college, every other player had his face, that was amusing :-)

Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: 29 January 2006 15:53
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed

I had a patch once called evil Barney.  One of the monsters was replaced by
Barney.  You got to blow him apart over and over.  Had a pre-schooler at the
time and had that dam Barney song going in the house all the time.  It was a
very satisfying patch.

One of the things that keeps the game going for me is that people can make
their own maps.  So there's hundreds of levels and dozens of total
conversions you can download from the Web - some of which are quite
beautiful and creative. 

Rocky

Bob Geldart wrote:
> Jon & Rocky,
>
> I remember years ago when my son was playing Doom, one of his first 
> real PC computer games. There was a patch for it that allowed shooting 
> chickens from hand-held cannons. Every time one was fired, instead of 
> a loud roar, there was a loud chicken squawk. Funniest thing!!
>
> Bob
>
> At 1/29/2006 09:27 AM, you wrote:
>   
>> No idea, I found it in a shop sale here in Blighty.
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: 29 January 2006 04:11
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
>>
>> Doom collectors edition.  Where do I get that?
>>
>> Rocky



From darsant at gmail.com  Sun Jan 29 11:03:55 2006
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:03:55 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] I'm Doomed
In-Reply-To: <001301c624f3$b1fd7af0$0300a8c0@jt2>
References: <43DCE4EA.3000202@san.rr.com> <001301c624f3$b1fd7af0$0300a8c0@jt2>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a0601290903l6558505bif4d8959ba2450aa2@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/29/06, Jon Tydda <jon at tydda.plus.com> wrote:
> One of my friends took digital pictures of himself, or more likely just
> scanned some pics in (thinking about it, were digital cameras available in
> 1996?) and put them into the game, so when we played multi-player at
> college, every other player had his face, that was amusing :-)

Back around the time of the Doom's, I remember having our land-line
locked up for about 2-3 hours each day as I dialed into my friend's
computer and we'd "network" over dial-up to play multiplayer.

It's so much easier now-a-days... 50+ people in a normal game.
--
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Jan 30 14:15:32 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:15:32 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D3AF33@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D34E91@ADGSERVER>

What if you rip it with something like DVD Decryptor?  Maybe you can access
the audio files that way?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:21 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Turn Soundtrack from a DVD into a CD


Arthur,

Interesting.  My wife has frequently taken cassette tapes and
converted them to CD using the tape deck's output into the sound card.
 Methinks that you'd have to do something like that since, clearly,
you can't make a digital copy.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On 1/27/06, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> A friend of mine has a DVD of a concert and he wants to turn its
soundtrack
> into a CD so he can play it in his car. Can this be done? I have both a
DVD
> and CD burner but I have never tried this.
> Any suggestions?
> TIA,
> Arthur
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Mon Jan 30 17:44:02 2006
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:44:02 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] vb script
Message-ID: <b874372a0601301544p751b55deud3256943ff02891@mail.gmail.com>

I have a text file with unicode characters... when I open it up in notepad i
can read these characters just fine, I am running a vbscript script over it
and I noticed that when It feeds the string into a variable it just uses
some other wierd characters instead example:


         Set docString = file.OpenAsTextStream(ForReading,
TristateUseDefault)
         txtString = docString.ReadAll


the result string is:
Spindeloption liefert ein h??heres Drehmoment im h??heren

but the source text document shows the following string

Spindeloption liefert ein h?heres Drehmoment im h?heren

This is being ran from a vbscript... anybody have any idea as to why?

--
-Francisco
http://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon!
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Jan 31 06:19:28 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:19:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] vb script
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D3B132@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D34E95@ADGSERVER>

I do not know much about vb script, but if you know it is coming in as
Unicode, why not use TristateTrue (-1) for the format?  Opening as the
system default may be this issue.

BTW, is there an RSS feed for your SQL blog?  I did not see a link.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; Discussion of Hardware
and Software issues; davidmcafee at gmail.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] vb script


I have a text file with unicode characters... when I open it up in notepad i
can read these characters just fine, I am running a vbscript script over it
and I noticed that when It feeds the string into a variable it just uses
some other wierd characters instead example:


         Set docString = file.OpenAsTextStream(ForReading,
TristateUseDefault)
         txtString = docString.ReadAll


the result string is:
Spindeloption liefert ein h??heres Drehmoment im h??heren

but the source text document shows the following string

Spindeloption liefert ein h?heres Drehmoment im h?heren

This is being ran from a vbscript... anybody have any idea as to why?

--
-Francisco
http://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon!
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...