[dba-Tech] Norton Antivirus Activation

John Bartow john at winhaven.net
Wed Mar 15 20:28:56 CST 2006


Francisco,
If they weren't better than the 3 freebies I wouldn't make an issue of it,
but you are clearly mistaken. And I'm not a brand name adherent (as anyone
that reads my posts would know). Do your own evaluation of all of them at
the same time and you'll never make such a statement again. MS anti-spyware
is a joke these days (I still use it PCs where they won't PAY for a real
time anti-spyware program). It holds up well to the statement "its better
than nothing". 

I also use Spybot S&D and Adaware (and a number of other products) on a
regular basis and they just don't compare. Often times they will claim to
have removed the malware but haven't or in the case of Spybot will want to
do a scan at startup which rarely accomplishes anything. Don't get me wrong,
I love those products. They will install and run in safe mode CS won't
<grr>. And they are better than MS's. But they don't hold up against
CounterSpy, Pest Patrol or SpySweeper. These three are consistently top
rated while others bounce up and down depending who's doing the rating.
CounterSpy actually uses the MS-AS malware database as ONE of its THREE data
sources (because they had a contract before MS bought Giant) so how you can
claim that MS-AS is better I just don't know! I hope MS does come through
with a decent AS product but I'm not waiting for the day.

If you know about anti-spyware, you also know that at this point in time no
one product will detect and remove all spyware.

As far as firewalls go, I agree, Sygate PF is great. I probably learned
about it from this list years ago. But its dead. Therefore I replaced it
with Kerio, which I probably learned about from this list too. So while
Kerio will only get better, Sygate will only get antiquated. And the real
big catch is: how do I refer people to a dead product?

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:52 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Norton Antivirus Activation

i dunno , i've used these products before and my general thoughts were that
they don't hold their own against quality products such as spybot or adaware
or even MS's antispyware. for firewalls, i still quite prefer sygate. I
haven't ran into something that is better for the monies. tho now that
symantec bought them only to kill the product.




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