From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sun Oct 1 00:19:00 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 01:19:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] uController progress Message-ID: <000001c6e519$1affe980$647aa8c0@m6805> Well, it's been a huge weekend. Thursday and Friday I received the Atmel Dragon debug board and all of the parts I ordered. Using the breadboard and an ATMega32 uController I build up a barebones controller. I got the AVR Studio downloaded and the freeware WinAVR 'C' language installed and working through AVR Studio. I compiled and ran an assembler program and watched the pins toggle through the emulator. I then found and created a project for a little 'C' program named "Blinky", ran it and watched it run in the emulator - toggling output pins. I got the Dragon debug board hooked up and talking through the USB port. I then built a JTAG 10 pin cable to hook up the controller circuit to the Dragon and thus to the AVR Studio. I turned on all of the hardware and the AVR Studio can read the internals of the ATMega32 uController on the breadboard. I then compiled the "Blinky" program to a hex file and apparently successfully uploaded the hex file to the uController. It wouldn't run, at least I can't tell that it is. I had set up LEDs on Port A and Blinky used Port D. So I changed the 'C' program (Blinky) to use Port A. Still no go. Sigh. It's 01:15 now and time to get some sleep, see what occurs to me in the morning. I suppose I will go back and throw in LEDs on the Port D pins and go back to the original Blinky to see if that works. If not... Hmm... not sure what. I'm happy though, I have come a long way in a few short days. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sun Oct 1 00:40:15 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 01:40:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Blinky Lives! Message-ID: <000e01c6e51c$131b9ea0$647aa8c0@m6805> Update, I just got the little 'C' program (Blinky) functioning, talking to the leds on Port A. This is cool! Now I can go to bed! ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Sun Oct 1 16:48:56 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 14:48:56 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sending files between machines Message-ID: <006501c6e5a3$65c88d70$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I have a new box ? call it machine 1. It?s no the network with Machine 2. >From M1 I can push stuff from M1 to M2 and pull stuff from M2 to M1. From M2 I can see and browse M1, pull stuff from M1 to M2, but I cannot push stuff from M2 to M1. I get ?Cannot copy?? Make sure the disk is not full or write protected?? All drives are shared. Any ideas how to get around this? MTIA, Rocky -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 9/29/2006 From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Oct 1 17:15:03 2006 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:15:03 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sending files between machines In-Reply-To: <006501c6e5a3$65c88d70$6401a8c0@HAL9005> References: <006501c6e5a3$65c88d70$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4520CA87.27936.175CE36C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 1 Oct 2006 at 14:48, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I have a new box - call it machine 1. It?s no the network with Machine 2. > From M1 I can push stuff from M1 to M2 and pull stuff from M2 to M1. From > M2 I can see and browse M1, pull stuff from M1 to M2, but I cannot push > stuff from M2 to M1. I get "Cannot copy..." Make sure the disk is not full or > write protected..." Assuming peer to peer networking on XP. Are you using the same login and password on both machines? Do you have Simple or Classic sharing set up? Have you checked that the share permissions on M1 are not set as RO? -- Stuart From bchacc at san.rr.com Sun Oct 1 17:28:02 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:28:02 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sending files between machines In-Reply-To: <4520CA87.27936.175CE36C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <006a01c6e5a8$dba248b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Stuart: Oops - that was it - set M1 to share on the network but forgot to allow users to modify the files. Both are XP Home. No login on either - I never set up a second user account. Where do I check for simple vs. Classic sharing? Thanks, Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:15 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Sending files between machines On 1 Oct 2006 at 14:48, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I have a new box - call it machine 1. It?s no the network with Machine 2. > From M1 I can push stuff from M1 to M2 and pull stuff from M2 to M1. From > M2 I can see and browse M1, pull stuff from M1 to M2, but I cannot push > stuff from M2 to M1. I get "Cannot copy..." Make sure the disk is not full or > write protected..." Assuming peer to peer networking on XP. Are you using the same login and password on both machines? Do you have Simple or Classic sharing set up? Have you checked that the share permissions on M1 are not set as RO? -- Stuart _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 9/29/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 9/29/2006 From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Oct 1 17:55:58 2006 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:55:58 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sending files between machines In-Reply-To: <006a01c6e5a8$dba248b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> References: <4520CA87.27936.175CE36C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <006a01c6e5a8$dba248b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4520D41E.10642.C7693385@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 1 Oct 2006 at 15:28, Beach Access Software wrote: > Stuart: > > Oops - that was it - set M1 to share on the network but forgot to allow > users to modify the files. > > Both are XP Home. No login on either - I never set up a second user account. > Where do I check for simple vs. Classic sharing? Don't worry about it. If you are using XP Home, Simple is all you get. Here's a good article on setting up and using SFS. http://www.theeldergeek.com/quick_guide_to_simple_file_sharing.htm -- Stuart McLachlan From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Oct 2 03:34:32 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:34:32 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file Message-ID: Hi all We found that ThinkPad portables are delivered with a tool that can do this, Power DVD Creator. It runs as is only on IBM/Lenovo machines and in realtime ... /gustav >>> Gustav at cactus.dk 28-09-2006 09:39:40 >>> Hi Jon But it is slow (real time). These recordings last for hours, that's why my colleague looks for a cheap and fast software converter. He found TMPGEnc MPEG Editor 2.0: http://www.tmpgenc.net/en/e_main.html At USD 60 I find it cheap but the client thinks otherwise ... /gustav >>> jon at tydda.plus.com 27-09-2006 21:21 >>> I've got one of those, dead easy to use too. Plug in the SCART socket of your VCR or use the AV cables, and straight into a USB port. Really couldn't be easier. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: 27 September 2006 13:05 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file On 27 Sep 2006 at 9:25, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Does anyone (Lembit?) know how to convert those camcorder vr video > files to a "normal" editable format? My colleague can find a shareware > tool but it will only handle 30 mins and the session in question lasts for hours. If the camcorder has an S-Video or RCA composite video output, you can get a USB video capture device complete with editing software from about $50 or so. Just google "USB video capture" -- Stuart From poc231st at hotmail.com Wed Oct 18 15:43:16 2006 From: poc231st at hotmail.com (Patti OConnor) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:43:16 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language In-Reply-To: <000001c6b7f8$bcec6820$647aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: Has anyone use the Python programming language. What is it like, how is it, comments. I was reviewing SPSS version additions and it mentioned including the Python language on the CD and was wondering if it would be beneficial. Thanks *********************** * Patti OConnor *********************** _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Wed Oct 18 16:56:50 2006 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:56:50 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4536A322.4010309@shaw.ca> I believe Python integrates into the backend of SPSS via API calls, although there are Python freeware COM libraries. I would use for speed or if I was using with an Apache Web Server to display SPSS data. Python can run on MS or Linux/Unix boxes. For day to day use, I prefer frontend COM access with VBA, SAXBasic, or ODBC to get at SPSS files. SAS stats package has similar methods. I am a few years out of date on this though. It really depends on where you data and main SPSS package resides or are you just using the desktop version of SPSS. The last time I used was on a IBM VM mainframe. Sample quick and dirty VBA Dim objspssapp As Object Set objspssapp = CreateObject("SPSS.Application") Set objSyntaxDoc = objspssapp.OpenSyntaxDoc("c:\try.sps") objSyntaxDoc.Visible = True 'False objSyntaxDoc.Run objSyntaxDoc.Close objspssapp.Quit Exit Function Patti OConnor wrote: >Has anyone use the Python programming language. What is it like, how is it, >comments. I was reviewing SPSS version additions and it mentioned including >the Python language on the CD and was wondering if it would be beneficial. > >Thanks >*********************** >* Patti OConnor >*********************** > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From artful at rogers.com Wed Oct 18 17:48:19 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061018224819.64489.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Although anything but expert, I am a big fan of the Python language (and also of Ruby). There are abundant tutorials around, and a few of the samples should be enough to decide your interest (or not) in Python. A scan of the jobs available indicates that skill in it could add $20/hr. to your rate -- not an iron-clad rule of course, but that's what a casual look reveals. Arthur ----- Original Message ---- From: Patti OConnor To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:43:16 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language Has anyone use the Python programming language. What is it like, how is it, comments. I was reviewing SPSS version additions and it mentioned including the Python language on the CD and was wondering if it would be beneficial. Thanks *********************** * Patti OConnor *********************** _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 18 20:19:20 2006 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:19:20 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language In-Reply-To: <20061018224819.64489.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20061018224819.64489.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4536D298.5060805@earthlink.net> Yep. been looking at it. For an old c junkie, c# is the cat's pyjamas. What does c# do for the rate :-) ? P. artful at rogers.com wrote: > Although anything but expert, I am a big fan of the Python language (and also of Ruby). There are abundant tutorials around, and a few of the samples should be enough to decide your interest (or not) in Python. A scan of the jobs available indicates that skill in it could add $20/hr. to your rate -- not an iron-clad rule of course, but that's what a casual look reveals. > > Arthur > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Patti OConnor > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:43:16 PM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language > > Has anyone use the Python programming language. What is it like, how is it, > comments. I was reviewing SPSS version additions and it mentioned including > the Python language on the CD and was wondering if it would be beneficial. > > Thanks > *********************** > * Patti OConnor > *********************** > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get today's hot entertainment gossip > http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Oct 19 02:26:54 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:26:54 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language Message-ID: Hi P Never heard that expression ... is it about that a cat really doesn't need a pyjamas? /gustav >>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 19-10-2006 03:19 >>> Yep. been looking at it. For an old c junkie, c# is the cat's pyjamas. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Oct 19 04:20:55 2006 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:20:55 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45374377.20735.F22477D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 19 Oct 2006 at 9:26, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi P > > Never heard that expression ... is it about that a cat really doesn't need a > pyjamas? Wikipedia: An English slang phrase coined by w:Thomas A. Dorgan. The phrase means "the height of excellence" and became popular in the U.S. in the 1920s,[1] along with bee's knees, "the cat's whiskers" (possibly from the use of these in radio crystal sets), and similar phrases that didn't endure: "the eel's ankle", "the elephant's instep", "the snake's hip" and "the capybara's spats".-- Stuart From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Oct 19 04:33:15 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:33:15 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language Message-ID: Hi Stuart Thanks! Quite colourful expressions. /gustav >>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 19-10-2006 11:20 >>> On 19 Oct 2006 at 9:26, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi P > > Never heard that expression ... is it about that a cat really doesn't need a > pyjamas? Wikipedia: An English slang phrase coined by w:Thomas A. Dorgan. The phrase means "the height of excellence" and became popular in the U.S. in the 1920s,[1] along with bee's knees, "the cat's whiskers" (possibly from the use of these in radio crystal sets), and similar phrases that didn't endure: "the eel's ankle", "the elephant's instep", "the snake's hip" and "the capybara's spats".-- Stuart From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Thu Oct 19 08:51:31 2006 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:51:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <453782E3.4080504@earthlink.net> >Never heard that expression ... is it about >that a cat really doesn't need a pyjamas? According to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/the_cat's_pajamas, it was coined by one Thomas Dorgan in the US in the early C20. PB > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 From carbonnb at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 10:53:28 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:53:28 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language In-Reply-To: References: <000001c6b7f8$bcec6820$647aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: On 10/18/06, Patti OConnor wrote: > Has anyone use the Python programming language. What is it like, how is it, > comments. I was reviewing SPSS version additions and it mentioned including > the Python language on the CD and was wondering if it would be beneficial. Patti, I have used Python before. It's actually what the software that runs DBAs mailing lists is written in. It's different than VB(A) but I don't think it's a huge stretch to learn. I mean I learned it enough to write some patches to customise our list software. As to how useful it is to SPSS, I can't say, mailnly because I have no idea what SPSS is :) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Thu Oct 19 14:06:49 2006 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:06:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language In-Reply-To: References: <000001c6b7f8$bcec6820$647aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <4537CCC9.7000108@shaw.ca> There are 3 or 4 major statistical packages in North America. I can think of others but would be language restricted to ones like APL Most started life 30 years ago on mainframes, now on desktops Exposure to them depended on what university or even government department that you worked or studied in, or even University faculty. SAS - Statisical Analysis System SPSS - Statisical Program for the Social Sciences MATLAB - MathLab for engineering R and S Plus open source version of SAS R is a bigger hit in the Academic world rather than IT. The possible open source replacement for SAS is R, http://www.r-project.org/ There are some very notable differences between SAS and R. Cutting edge statistics - Many are developed in R (or in its commercial cousin - S Plus). It takes a while for them to make it into SAS. Graphics - R produces amazing graphics better than SAS-Graph SAS and R are totally different in the way they work, how they are structured, what the statements look like, and so on. R provides a wide variety of statistical (linear and nonlinear modelling, classical statistical tests, time-series analysis, classification, clustering, ...) and graphical techniques, and is highly extensible. The S language is often the vehicle of choice for research in statistical methodology, and R provides an Open Source route to participation in that activity. Bryan Carbonnell wrote: >On 10/18/06, Patti OConnor wrote: > > >>Has anyone use the Python programming language. What is it like, how is it, >>comments. I was reviewing SPSS version additions and it mentioned including >>the Python language on the CD and was wondering if it would be beneficial. >> >> > >Patti, > >I have used Python before. It's actually what the software that runs >DBAs mailing lists is written in. > >It's different than VB(A) but I don't think it's a huge stretch to >learn. I mean I learned it enough to write some patches to customise >our list software. > >As to how useful it is to SPSS, I can't say, mailnly because I have no >idea what SPSS is :) > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From john at winhaven.net Sun Oct 22 18:17:35 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:17:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles In-Reply-To: <7c8826480609280945k302fd195teb21c1d4d5df8e3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007e01c6f630$42965790$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Hi Billy, I just wanted to follow up now that I've had a chance to try it on all the machines. Thanks - this did the trick! John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Billy Pang Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:45 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles are you using microsoft outlook? go to control panel --> mail --> show profiles. On the bottom of the properties windows, choose "always use this profile" instead of "prompt for a profile to be used". hth Billy On 9/27/06, John Bartow wrote: > > Anyone know how to get the Mail Profile on Windows 2000/XP to stop > asking which one to use? > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Billy Pang http://dbnotes.blogspot.com/ "Once the game is over, the King and the pawn go back in the same box." - Italian proverb _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tuxedoman888 at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 20:53:04 2006 From: tuxedoman888 at gmail.com (Billy Pang) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:53:04 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles In-Reply-To: <007e01c6f630$42965790$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <7c8826480609280945k302fd195teb21c1d4d5df8e3d@mail.gmail.com> <007e01c6f630$42965790$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <7c8826480610221853j31dd6701jdb463553957b0f9b@mail.gmail.com> No problem:) Thanks for letting us know. On 10/22/06, John Bartow wrote: > > Hi Billy, > I just wanted to follow up now that I've had a chance to try it on all the > machines. Thanks - this did the trick! > > John B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Billy Pang > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:45 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > are you using microsoft outlook? go to control panel --> mail --> show > profiles. On the bottom of the properties windows, choose "always use > this > profile" instead of "prompt for a profile to be used". > hth > Billy > > > On 9/27/06, John Bartow wrote: > > > > Anyone know how to get the Mail Profile on Windows 2000/XP to stop > > asking which one to use? > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > Billy Pang > http://dbnotes.blogspot.com/ > "Once the game is over, the King and the pawn go back in the same box." - > Italian proverb _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Billy Pang http://dbnotes.blogspot.com/ "Once the game is over, the King and the pawn go back in the same box." - Italian proverb From poc231st at hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18:18:14 2006 From: poc231st at hotmail.com (Patti OConnor) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:18:14 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Python programming language In-Reply-To: <4536A322.4010309@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Thanks for your help and information. I will review the code sent when I get a few free moments SPSS is a statistical software similar to SAS. Thanks *********************** * Patti OConnor *********************** _________________________________________________________________ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Oct 27 09:46:25 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:46:25 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Re-Installing Access 2000 Message-ID: <00a701c6f9d6$ad894590$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Dear list: I posted this to AccessD but didn't get any responses. Anyone here have any insight for me? MTIA, Rocky _____ From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:32 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re-Installing Access 2000 Dear List: On my new box I have a complete O2K3 install. And I'm using Outlook. I'd like to install just A2K as well, but the last time I tried this, it hosed the O2K3 Outlook. Apparently you cannot install any component of A2K without also installing Outlook. So I'm looking for a way around this problem that doesn't require me to back up everything in Outlook, uninstall O2K3, install O2K, and then O2K3, and then reload all the Outlook stuff. Is this possible? MTIA, Rocky From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Fri Oct 27 09:58:07 2006 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:58:07 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Re-Installing Access 2000 References: <00a701c6f9d6$ad894590$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Rocky I think you have to install the versions in order. I also believe the latest version of outlook will take over if you choose to isntall it. I dont know if you can install A2000 now that you have 2003 on. Martin Martin WP Reid Training and Assessment Unit Riddle Hall Belfast tel: 02890 974477 ________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access Software Sent: Fri 27/10/2006 15:46 To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Re-Installing Access 2000 Dear list: I posted this to AccessD but didn't get any responses. Anyone here have any insight for me? MTIA, Rocky _____ From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:32 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re-Installing Access 2000 Dear List: On my new box I have a complete O2K3 install. And I'm using Outlook. I'd like to install just A2K as well, but the last time I tried this, it hosed the O2K3 Outlook. Apparently you cannot install any component of A2K without also installing Outlook. So I'm looking for a way around this problem that doesn't require me to back up everything in Outlook, uninstall O2K3, install O2K, and then O2K3, and then reload all the Outlook stuff. Is this possible? MTIA, Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Oct 27 10:28:39 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:28:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Re-Installing Access 2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00d601c6f9dc$94518690$6401a8c0@HAL9005> How depressing! Maybe I'll switch back to OE first. Then uninstall O2K3 and do the reinstalls in order. Get my emails and address book and accounts moved over to OE first. I recall having some problem with it that drove me to Thunderbird. Then Thunderbird quit sending attachments. So, given that I have to do some Access<-->Outlook automation from time to time, I thought I'd just get with the rest of the world and use Outlook. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:58 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Re-Installing Access 2000 Rocky I think you have to install the versions in order. I also believe the latest version of outlook will take over if you choose to isntall it. I dont know if you can install A2000 now that you have 2003 on. Martin Martin WP Reid Training and Assessment Unit Riddle Hall Belfast tel: 02890 974477 ________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access Software Sent: Fri 27/10/2006 15:46 To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Re-Installing Access 2000 Dear list: I posted this to AccessD but didn't get any responses. Anyone here have any insight for me? MTIA, Rocky _____ From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:32 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re-Installing Access 2000 Dear List: On my new box I have a complete O2K3 install. And I'm using Outlook. I'd like to install just A2K as well, but the last time I tried this, it hosed the O2K3 Outlook. Apparently you cannot install any component of A2K without also installing Outlook. So I'm looking for a way around this problem that doesn't require me to back up everything in Outlook, uninstall O2K3, install O2K, and then O2K3, and then reload all the Outlook stuff. Is this possible? MTIA, Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.14/501 - Release Date: 10/26/2006 From john at winhaven.net Fri Oct 27 15:15:25 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:15:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Re-Installing Access 2000 In-Reply-To: <00a701c6f9d6$ad894590$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <025901c6fa04$a65ec640$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I did not know that you couldn't install Access 2k without Outlook installing. If that's the case I'd suggest you look into a trial version of Outback or some other Outlook backup program. Then backup your Outlook before installing the O2K. You're going to have to reinstall A2k3 after the A2k so adding O2k3 to process really won't require much effort if you have a backup program with which to restore all your settings and files. Sorry not much help - haven't run into that "ugly" yet ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software On my new box I have a complete O2K3 install. And I'm using Outlook. I'd like to install just A2K as well, but the last time I tried this, it hosed the O2K3 Outlook. Apparently you cannot install any component of A2K without also installing Outlook. So I'm looking for a way around this problem that doesn't require me to back up everything in Outlook, uninstall O2K3, install O2K, and then O2K3, and then reload all the Outlook stuff. From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Oct 30 08:22:02 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:22:02 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Message-ID: <002a01c6fc2e$c5326ff0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: Is there a way to run the task manager on Machine #2 from Machine #1? Rocky From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Oct 30 08:34:01 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:34:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Re-Installing Access 2000 In-Reply-To: <025901c6fa04$a65ec640$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <00a701c6f9d6$ad894590$6401a8c0@HAL9005> <025901c6fa04$a65ec640$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: On 10/27/06, John Bartow wrote: > I did not know that you couldn't install Access 2k without Outlook > installing. If that's the case I'd suggest you look into a trial version of > Outback or some other Outlook backup program. Then backup your Outlook > before installing the O2K. You're going to have to reinstall A2k3 after the > A2k so adding O2k3 to process really won't require much effort if you have a > backup program with which to restore all your settings and files. > > Sorry not much help - haven't run into that "ugly" yet ;o) I'm not so sure that this is true. I've done full O2K without Outlook more times that I care to count. The last time I installed Outlook was when OL97 was new, so you can do the math on that one :) Not to mention that our IT folks do it all the time. We use Groupwise not Outlook here at work. Some components of Outlook may be installed (or other Office components), which will hose newer versions of Outlook. That's I can't say for sure. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Mon Oct 30 08:39:51 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:39:51 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C18C1@ALCEXLG1> If you mean like right clicking on it and selecting "connect to other pc" like you can do with computer manager, I don't think so. There are things available to do it though, Dameware NT Utilities does it, or you can just remote desktop it and do it like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:22 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dear List: Is there a way to run the task manager on Machine #2 from Machine #1? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Oct 30 08:56:06 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:56:06 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C18C1@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: <003801c6fc33$878d8bd0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:40 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager If you mean like right clicking on it and selecting "connect to other pc" like you can do with computer manager, I don't think so. There are things available to do it though, Dameware NT Utilities does it, or you can just remote desktop it and do it like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:22 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dear List: Is there a way to run the task manager on Machine #2 from Machine #1? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Mon Oct 30 08:57:02 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:57:02 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C18C7@ALCEXLG1> What OS is it? I'll have a play with a couple of pc's here, see if I can come up with something. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:56 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:40 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager If you mean like right clicking on it and selecting "connect to other pc" like you can do with computer manager, I don't think so. There are things available to do it though, Dameware NT Utilities does it, or you can just remote desktop it and do it like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:22 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dear List: Is there a way to run the task manager on Machine #2 from Machine #1? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Oct 30 09:06:12 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:06:12 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C18C7@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: <003901c6fc34$f08b0760$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Mine is XP Home. One that I want to monitor is XP Home the other is XP Pro. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:57 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager What OS is it? I'll have a play with a couple of pc's here, see if I can come up with something. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:56 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:40 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager If you mean like right clicking on it and selecting "connect to other pc" like you can do with computer manager, I don't think so. There are things available to do it though, Dameware NT Utilities does it, or you can just remote desktop it and do it like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:22 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dear List: Is there a way to run the task manager on Machine #2 from Machine #1? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Oct 30 09:44:03 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:44:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <003801c6fc33$878d8bd0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <001c01c6fc3a$3aa3bdb0$657aa8c0@m6805> VNC is one answer. Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours. You can "log on" to your child's machine and literally see whatever he is seeing. Thus you see the keystrokes as he types them, mouse movements and clicks, programs opening and closing etc. If the child is not using the machine, you can "remote control" the machine to look at what programs are open etc. Whenever the machine is being remotely monitored an icon in the lower right of the tool tray turns a different color. That is the only indication, unless you try to move the mouse or type on the keyboard. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:40 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager If you mean like right clicking on it and selecting "connect to other pc" like you can do with computer manager, I don't think so. There are things available to do it though, Dameware NT Utilities does it, or you can just remote desktop it and do it like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:22 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dear List: Is there a way to run the task manager on Machine #2 from Machine #1? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Oct 30 09:56:29 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:29 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <001c01c6fc3a$3aa3bdb0$657aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <004901c6fc3b$f6aa8c40$6401a8c0@HAL9005> " Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours." Sounds tricky. Is it? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:44 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager VNC is one answer. Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours. You can "log on" to your child's machine and literally see whatever he is seeing. Thus you see the keystrokes as he types them, mouse movements and clicks, programs opening and closing etc. If the child is not using the machine, you can "remote control" the machine to look at what programs are open etc. Whenever the machine is being remotely monitored an icon in the lower right of the tool tray turns a different color. That is the only indication, unless you try to move the mouse or type on the keyboard. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:40 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager If you mean like right clicking on it and selecting "connect to other pc" like you can do with computer manager, I don't think so. There are things available to do it though, Dameware NT Utilities does it, or you can just remote desktop it and do it like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:22 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dear List: Is there a way to run the task manager on Machine #2 from Machine #1? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Mon Oct 30 09:59:02 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:59:02 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C18CB@ALCEXLG1> No, just install the software on it. Maybe put a password on the software so that no-one else can login. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:56 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager " Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours." Sounds tricky. Is it? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:44 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager VNC is one answer. Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours. You can "log on" to your child's machine and literally see whatever he is seeing. Thus you see the keystrokes as he types them, mouse movements and clicks, programs opening and closing etc. If the child is not using the machine, you can "remote control" the machine to look at what programs are open etc. Whenever the machine is being remotely monitored an icon in the lower right of the tool tray turns a different color. That is the only indication, unless you try to move the mouse or type on the keyboard. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:40 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager If you mean like right clicking on it and selecting "connect to other pc" like you can do with computer manager, I don't think so. There are things available to do it though, Dameware NT Utilities does it, or you can just remote desktop it and do it like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:22 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dear List: Is there a way to run the task manager on Machine #2 from Machine #1? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Mon Oct 30 10:00:12 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:00:12 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C18CC@ALCEXLG1> Actually, I use one called RAdmin, pretty good, very simple to use. Only problem is that some spyware programs detect it as a threat :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:56 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager " Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours." Sounds tricky. Is it? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:44 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager VNC is one answer. Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours. You can "log on" to your child's machine and literally see whatever he is seeing. Thus you see the keystrokes as he types them, mouse movements and clicks, programs opening and closing etc. If the child is not using the machine, you can "remote control" the machine to look at what programs are open etc. Whenever the machine is being remotely monitored an icon in the lower right of the tool tray turns a different color. That is the only indication, unless you try to move the mouse or type on the keyboard. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:40 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager If you mean like right clicking on it and selecting "connect to other pc" like you can do with computer manager, I don't think so. There are things available to do it though, Dameware NT Utilities does it, or you can just remote desktop it and do it like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:22 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dear List: Is there a way to run the task manager on Machine #2 from Machine #1? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Oct 30 10:48:11 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:48:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <004901c6fc3b$f6aa8c40$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <001d01c6fc43$30482280$657aa8c0@m6805> Dead simple (once you have done it a dozen times ;-). Log on to the (child's) machine that the server will be installed on Browse to the web site where you will download VNC from. I use Tight VNC or Real VNC. Google for those and follow the links. Download the software. Install. One of the options will ask if you want to install the server and load it as a service. Say yes. Reboot the child's machine after the install. Determine the network address, of the child's machine - 192.168.0.X is typical, though you might have modified your network to use an alternate set such as 192.168.101.X. Write it down. Go to your machine Repeat instructions to install VNC on your machine. You may or may not decide to install the server on your own machine depending on whether you want to remote control your own machine from somewhere else. It can be handy, especially from inside your own network. Reboot your machine. Run VNC. When it asks what to log in to, enter the network address of your child's machine. If it is working, VNC will open the desktop of the child's machine. Click the X in the upper right to close monitoring. Understand that network addresses are usually dynamically assigned, which means that number MAY change. Usually they don't but occasionally they do, but always after a reboot. It is possible to statically assign addresses. Usually this is done in the firewall if that is the address "server". If you need this and / or don't understand this, say so and help will be given. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager " Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours." Sounds tricky. Is it? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:44 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager VNC is one answer. Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours. You can "log on" to your child's machine and literally see whatever he is seeing. Thus you see the keystrokes as he types them, mouse movements and clicks, programs opening and closing etc. If the child is not using the machine, you can "remote control" the machine to look at what programs are open etc. Whenever the machine is being remotely monitored an icon in the lower right of the tool tray turns a different color. That is the only indication, unless you try to move the mouse or type on the keyboard. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Oct 30 10:59:17 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:59:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <001d01c6fc43$30482280$657aa8c0@m6805> References: <004901c6fc3b$f6aa8c40$6401a8c0@HAL9005> <001d01c6fc43$30482280$657aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: On 10/30/06, JWColby wrote: > Determine the network address, of the child's machine - 192.168.0.X is > typical, though you might have modified your network to use an alternate set > such as 192.168.101.X. Write it down. This step needs to be changed slightly if you are using DHCP in your router to assign IPs. I just use the name of the PC to connect and my router does the name->IP translation for me. > Reboot your machine. Run VNC. When it asks what to log in to, enter the > network address of your child's machine. If it is working, VNC will open > the desktop of the child's machine. Or the computer name. > Understand that network addresses are usually dynamically assigned, which > means that number MAY change. Usually they don't but occasionally they do, > but always after a reboot. It is possible to statically assign addresses. Mine change quite frequently depending on the order in which they are powered on, that's why I use the computer name. To get the computer name, just right click on the Myh Computer Icon on your desktop, select Properties, click the Computer Name tab, and you want the "Full Computer Name: from that tab. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Mon Oct 30 11:02:16 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:02:16 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C18CE@ALCEXLG1> Depends on your router, on my Netgear DG834PN I can assign addresses to specific PCs, then use DHCP to give out other addresses as needed. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:59 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager On 10/30/06, JWColby wrote: > Determine the network address, of the child's machine - 192.168.0.X is > typical, though you might have modified your network to use an alternate set > such as 192.168.101.X. Write it down. This step needs to be changed slightly if you are using DHCP in your router to assign IPs. I just use the name of the PC to connect and my router does the name->IP translation for me. > Reboot your machine. Run VNC. When it asks what to log in to, enter the > network address of your child's machine. If it is working, VNC will open > the desktop of the child's machine. Or the computer name. > Understand that network addresses are usually dynamically assigned, which > means that number MAY change. Usually they don't but occasionally they do, > but always after a reboot. It is possible to statically assign addresses. Mine change quite frequently depending on the order in which they are powered on, that's why I use the computer name. To get the computer name, just right click on the Myh Computer Icon on your desktop, select Properties, click the Computer Name tab, and you want the "Full Computer Name: from that tab. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:30:34 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:30:34 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C18CE@ALCEXLG1> References: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D71C18CE@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: On 10/30/06, Jon Tydda wrote: > Depends on your router, on my Netgear DG834PN I can assign addresses to > specific PCs, then use DHCP to give out other addresses as needed. The router gives out the static ip? Why not just assign it at the PC level? -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Oct 30 11:49:01 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:49:01 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <001d01c6fc43$30482280$657aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <008001c6fc4b$af3a2d10$6401a8c0@HAL9005> "I use Tight VNC or Real VNC." Which one would you recommend? I'd lean towards easy versus full-featured or powerful. Thanks Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:48 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dead simple (once you have done it a dozen times ;-). Log on to the (child's) machine that the server will be installed on Browse to the web site where you will download VNC from. I use Tight VNC or Real VNC. Google for those and follow the links. Download the software. Install. One of the options will ask if you want to install the server and load it as a service. Say yes. Reboot the child's machine after the install. Determine the network address, of the child's machine - 192.168.0.X is typical, though you might have modified your network to use an alternate set such as 192.168.101.X. Write it down. Go to your machine Repeat instructions to install VNC on your machine. You may or may not decide to install the server on your own machine depending on whether you want to remote control your own machine from somewhere else. It can be handy, especially from inside your own network. Reboot your machine. Run VNC. When it asks what to log in to, enter the network address of your child's machine. If it is working, VNC will open the desktop of the child's machine. Click the X in the upper right to close monitoring. Understand that network addresses are usually dynamically assigned, which means that number MAY change. Usually they don't but occasionally they do, but always after a reboot. It is possible to statically assign addresses. Usually this is done in the firewall if that is the address "server". If you need this and / or don't understand this, say so and help will be given. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager " Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours." Sounds tricky. Is it? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:44 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager VNC is one answer. Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours. You can "log on" to your child's machine and literally see whatever he is seeing. Thus you see the keystrokes as he types them, mouse movements and clicks, programs opening and closing etc. If the child is not using the machine, you can "remote control" the machine to look at what programs are open etc. Whenever the machine is being remotely monitored an icon in the lower right of the tool tray turns a different color. That is the only indication, unless you try to move the mouse or type on the keyboard. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:51:32 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:51:32 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <008001c6fc4b$af3a2d10$6401a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001d01c6fc43$30482280$657aa8c0@m6805> <008001c6fc4b$af3a2d10$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: On 10/30/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > "I use Tight VNC or Real VNC." > > Which one would you recommend? I'd lean towards easy versus full-featured > or powerful. UltraVNC is what I use and recommend. (Just to add more to the fire :) Dead simple installation. Dead simple use. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:52:31 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:52:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: References: <001d01c6fc43$30482280$657aa8c0@m6805> <008001c6fc4b$af3a2d10$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: On 10/30/06, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > On 10/30/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > > "I use Tight VNC or Real VNC." > > > > Which one would you recommend? I'd lean towards easy versus full-featured > > or powerful. > > UltraVNC is what I use and recommend. (Just to add more to the fire :) > > Dead simple installation. Dead simple use. (Hit send too fast) But tons of options if you need/want them. Defaults work wonderfully though. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Oct 30 13:08:31 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:08:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001f01c6fc56$cace9100$657aa8c0@m6805> Good idea using the computer name. I don't often do this within my own network, though I have upon occasion. As my children get older, I probably will more. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 11:59 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager On 10/30/06, JWColby wrote: > Determine the network address, of the child's machine - 192.168.0.X is > typical, though you might have modified your network to use an > alternate set such as 192.168.101.X. Write it down. This step needs to be changed slightly if you are using DHCP in your router to assign IPs. I just use the name of the PC to connect and my router does the name->IP translation for me. > Reboot your machine. Run VNC. When it asks what to log in to, enter > the network address of your child's machine. If it is working, VNC > will open the desktop of the child's machine. Or the computer name. > Understand that network addresses are usually dynamically assigned, > which means that number MAY change. Usually they don't but > occasionally they do, but always after a reboot. It is possible to statically assign addresses. Mine change quite frequently depending on the order in which they are powered on, that's why I use the computer name. To get the computer name, just right click on the Myh Computer Icon on your desktop, select Properties, click the Computer Name tab, and you want the "Full Computer Name: from that tab. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Oct 30 13:10:40 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:10:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: <008001c6fc4b$af3a2d10$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <002001c6fc57$17c30950$657aa8c0@m6805> Depends on the situation. Some are faster, some are more full featured. On a local LAN speed really doesn't matter as much as if you are doing this over the internet. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:49 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager "I use Tight VNC or Real VNC." Which one would you recommend? I'd lean towards easy versus full-featured or powerful. Thanks Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:48 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager Dead simple (once you have done it a dozen times ;-). Log on to the (child's) machine that the server will be installed on Browse to the web site where you will download VNC from. I use Tight VNC or Real VNC. Google for those and follow the links. Download the software. Install. One of the options will ask if you want to install the server and load it as a service. Say yes. Reboot the child's machine after the install. Determine the network address, of the child's machine - 192.168.0.X is typical, though you might have modified your network to use an alternate set such as 192.168.101.X. Write it down. Go to your machine Repeat instructions to install VNC on your machine. You may or may not decide to install the server on your own machine depending on whether you want to remote control your own machine from somewhere else. It can be handy, especially from inside your own network. Reboot your machine. Run VNC. When it asks what to log in to, enter the network address of your child's machine. If it is working, VNC will open the desktop of the child's machine. Click the X in the upper right to close monitoring. Understand that network addresses are usually dynamically assigned, which means that number MAY change. Usually they don't but occasionally they do, but always after a reboot. It is possible to statically assign addresses. Usually this is done in the firewall if that is the address "server". If you need this and / or don't understand this, say so and help will be given. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager " Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours." Sounds tricky. Is it? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:44 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager VNC is one answer. Set up a VNC server on his machine, then set up the VNC client on yours. You can "log on" to your child's machine and literally see whatever he is seeing. Thus you see the keystrokes as he types them, mouse movements and clicks, programs opening and closing etc. If the child is not using the machine, you can "remote control" the machine to look at what programs are open etc. Whenever the machine is being remotely monitored an icon in the lower right of the tool tray turns a different color. That is the only indication, unless you try to move the mouse or type on the keyboard. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager I was looking for a quick and dirty way to monitor my kids' computer usage. Just to know what programs he's running at the moment. Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Oct 30 17:02:08 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:02:08 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Task Manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003001c6fc77$6f7f9da0$0200a8c0@jt2> Cos I can do it without having to go downstairs to the other PCs :-) Can you tell I'm a sysadmin at work? If I can't do it remotely, it don't get done! Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: 30 October 2006 17:31 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Task Manager On 10/30/06, Jon Tydda wrote: > Depends on your router, on my Netgear DG834PN I can assign addresses > to specific PCs, then use DHCP to give out other addresses as needed. The router gives out the static ip? Why not just assign it at the PC level? -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Oct 30 20:00:54 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:00:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Raid controller Message-ID: <002b01c6fc90$66de1b40$657aa8c0@m6805> I purchased an Areca 1220 SATA 8 disk raid controller, with (7) Seagate 10.1 320 gb hard disks to create a raid system with. One of the disks was damaged and had to be RMAd. I went ahead and created a Raid 5 array using the 6 remaining drives. This gave me about 1.0 terra bytes on one volume and about 370 gb on another volume, both Raid 5. I just received the RMAd drive back, popped it in, added it to the array and told the controller to convert to Raid 6 for both volumes. That was early this afternoon, and the controller has finished the conversion of the large array to Raid 6 and is about 50% finished converting the smaller array to Raid 6, all consuming ZERO CPU and doing so while I was using the arrays pretty heavily. The controller is also very fast. Raid 5/6 writes are about the speed of the individual drives and reads are much faster (~raid 0 speed according to Areca) These disks are about $95 from Newegg and can be purchased with free shipping if you keep your eyes open so that is a real $95 / disk. This particular controller is currently about $500. This made my actual cost about $1200 for 1400gb in a Raid 6 config. Someday I hope that the Seagate 10.1 750 gb drives drop into this price range in which case I will upgrade. ATM those drives are about $375-$400 each which makes them out of my range. I am impressed with this Areca controller which is the point of this email. Areca makes controllers that handle various numbers of disks. The controller uses a PCI-X8 connection to the CPU so you must have a PCI-X capable motherboard. If you need more disks, they also have a 12, 16 and 24 disk controller, for more money of course. Nice controller so far! John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com