From bchacc at san.rr.com Sat Sep 2 10:57:34 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 08:57:34 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thunderbird to Outlook Message-ID: <003301c6cea8$815dbef0$6901a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List(s): Does anyone know a way to transfer all of the email I've got in Thunderbird to Outlook? I've checked the web and can't find anything useful. MTIA Rocky From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Sat Sep 2 12:37:36 2006 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:37:36 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thunderbird to Outlook In-Reply-To: <003301c6cea8$815dbef0$6901a8c0@HAL9005> References: <003301c6cea8$815dbef0$6901a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <44F9C160.50703@shaw.ca> Here are 3 popular general mail conversion programs all in the $50 range. http://www.slipstick.com/config/convmsg.htm My brother has used extended Transend Migrator but that was for legal Ediscovery cases. You could try this as Netscape is Mozilla based How to import messages and addresses from Netscape Messenger 4.5 and later in Outlook 2002 and Outlook 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=291601 Beach Access Software wrote: >Dear List(s): > > > >Does anyone know a way to transfer all of the email I've got in Thunderbird >to Outlook? I've checked the web and can't find anything useful. > > > >MTIA > > > >Rocky > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From djkr at msn.com Sun Sep 3 05:35:06 2006 From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:35:06 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] .exe always runs Acrobat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If anyone's followed this, I found the place in the Registry which affects this issue. I've added a postscript to the web page, giving a VERY simple registry edit which does the trick (*with the usual disclaimers). John -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John) Robinson Sent: 31 August 2006 23:37 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] .exe always runs Acrobat Billy, that was a good link. Thanks! I finally got to the client yesterday and fixed the problem. In fact, the registry edit didn't do the job, but there were some useful tips - for instance, if .exe files won't work and you really want to run a particular one, then change its extension to .com temporarily. In the end, it came down to the final suggestion, trying to handle the exe association in Explorer's File Types. The difficulty is that you can't see this unless you "create" it afresh, whereupon the pre-existing entry magically appears. I've put up a page with the details if you're interested (watch for wrap): http://www.djkr.co.uk/djkrco/tech/misc/EXE_file_association_problem.doc We haven't been able to reproduce exactly the finger trouble that brought about the problem, but there is an area of vulnerability that I'm sure was involved. If the user goes to the executable and right-clicks on "Pin to Start menu", then what appears on the Start menu is a particular kind of shortcut (don't know what MS call it, but it's not the usual sort). It will appear on the Start menu with the name of the .exe file, which he will want to change to something more meaningful. Right-click on it and select Rename, and all will be well: the name of the link will have been chaged. But if instead of Rename he selected Properties, he would have been able to change the name there, too. BUT - in this case he's changing the name of the actual executable itself! The name on the Menu changes too, but his troubles have only just begun... Although nothing showed up in the registry, I still suspect the problem was in there somewhere. I've got Before and After copies (100MB each) and will explore when I have time. John -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: 24 August 2006 21:56 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] .exe always runs Acrobat Yes, you can put the registry entries into a text file and save it as a *.reg. Then double click the file, it'll enter the required data into the registry without using regedit. Voila... Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Billy Pang Sent: 24 August 2006 21:24 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues; djkr at msn.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] .exe always runs Acrobat i found this... "How to Fix a Broken .EXE Association" http://filext.com/info/showthread.php?t=12 it is possible to fix problem by editing the registry without using regedit? i haven't tried it so not sure if it works. anyways hope it helps and good luck Billy On 8/24/06, DJK(John) Robinson wrote: > > Got a phone call from a (database) client in a pickle. > > He's running Win XP, and has done *something* that has resulted in > Adobe Acrobat trying to run whenever he tries to run ANY .exe program: > Word, regedit, ..., as if Explorer had somehow got a file type > association of exe with Acrobat - which doesn't make sense. > > Double-clicking on a .doc file opens up Word ok, for instance, but > trying to run Word directly brings up Acrobat. > > The last thing he recalls doing was something like pinning a new > program onto the upper pane in the Start menu, and then changing its > ?name, ?properties. Sorry, it gets a bit confused here. > > I've got him to run System Restore from command prompt in Safe Mode, > to get back to a previous checkpoint, but this failed at a late stage > on starting up Windows when it was apparently trying to run its own > restore utility program - yes, an exe, which tried to run Acrobat > ...!!&$%"@%! > > This is outside my experience, and it's a difficult thing to try to > look up in the KB. > > Any bright ideas I can pass on to him when he gets back to work in > about 12 > hours? > > John > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Billy Pang http://dbnotes.blogspot.com/ "Once the game is over, the King and the pawn go back in the same box." - Italian proverb _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 09:06:35 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:06:35 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Message-ID: <000401c6d286$d4a0dac0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I can?t find the setting to stop Outlook from starting automatically when I power up the comp. Does anyone know where this switch is? I couldn?t find this in either Help or the Net. After startup, the first time I click anything in Outlook it hangs and I have to use the task manager to exit. When I restart Outlook, it runs fine. So I?m thinking, I?ll just disable the startup and start it manually after the comp has finished its other startups to see if that?s the problem. But I can?t find where to turn it off. It?s not even on The Ultimate Troubleshooter list. MTIA Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From bheid at appdevgrp.com Thu Sep 7 09:32:35 2006 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:32:35 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E24F52@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D3588D@ADGSERVER> Did you look in your startup folder? Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Dear List: I can?t find the setting to stop Outlook from starting automatically when I power up the comp. Does anyone know where this switch is? I couldn?t find this in either Help or the Net. After startup, the first time I click anything in Outlook it hangs and I have to use the task manager to exit. When I restart Outlook, it runs fine. So I?m thinking, I?ll just disable the startup and start it manually after the comp has finished its other startups to see if that?s the problem. But I can?t find where to turn it off. It?s not even on The Ultimate Troubleshooter list. MTIA Rocky From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 10:31:48 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:31:48 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D3588D@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <000d01c6d292$bc5f53e0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Yeah - there's nothing in it! Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:33 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Did you look in your startup folder? Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Dear List: I can?t find the setting to stop Outlook from starting automatically when I power up the comp. Does anyone know where this switch is? I couldn?t find this in either Help or the Net. After startup, the first time I click anything in Outlook it hangs and I have to use the task manager to exit. When I restart Outlook, it runs fine. So I?m thinking, I?ll just disable the startup and start it manually after the comp has finished its other startups to see if that?s the problem. But I can?t find where to turn it off. It?s not even on The Ultimate Troubleshooter list. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 10:33:59 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:33:59 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Message-ID: <000e01c6d293$0a38adf0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? TIA Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From bheid at appdevgrp.com Thu Sep 7 10:52:12 2006 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:52:12 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E24F86@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D3588F@ADGSERVER> What about Remote Assistance? I use it to occasionally help people. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:34 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Dear List: I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? TIA Rocky Rocky Smolin From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Sep 7 11:02:11 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:02:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <000e01c6d293$0a38adf0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> References: <000e01c6d293$0a38adf0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Windows XP has something called Remote Desktop Connection built in. Go to Accessories/Communications/Remote Desktop Connection and have a look. It's what we use here where I work and it works pretty well. All over a network connection though. Your results may vary of course. GK On 9/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. > Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her > stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything > better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Sep 7 11:03:55 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:03:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup In-Reply-To: <000d01c6d292$bc5f53e0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D3588D@ADGSERVER> <000d01c6d292$bc5f53e0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Did you look at it for all the users defined on your machine.... like the ALL USERS one? GK On 9/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Yeah - there's nothing in it! > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:33 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup > > Did you look in your startup folder? > > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access > Software > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM > To: List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup > > > Dear List: > > > > I can't find the setting to stop Outlook from starting automatically when I > power up the comp. Does anyone know where this switch is? I couldn't find > this in either Help or the Net. > > > > After startup, the first time I click anything in Outlook it hangs and I > have to use the task manager to exit. > > > > When I restart Outlook, it runs fine. So I'm thinking, I'll just disable > the startup and start it manually after the comp has finished its other > startups to see if that's the problem. But I can't find where to turn it > off. It's not even on The Ultimate Troubleshooter list. > > > > MTIA > > > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 11:06:15 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:06:15 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D3588F@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <000a01c6d297$8c1c7e10$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Bobby: Thanks. I'll take a look at that. What's been your experience? Any problems? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:52 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere What about Remote Assistance? I use it to occasionally help people. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:34 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Dear List: I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? TIA Rocky Rocky Smolin _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From john at winhaven.net Thu Sep 7 11:14:29 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:14:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup In-Reply-To: <000401c6d286$d4a0dac0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <014b01c6d298$b2b9f0b0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Use the advanced mode of Spybot S&D to look at the startup items. It should be listed there. If so uncheck it. HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:07 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Dear List: I can't find the setting to stop Outlook from starting automatically when I power up the comp. Does anyone know where this switch is? I couldn't find this in either Help or the Net. After startup, the first time I click anything in Outlook it hangs and I have to use the task manager to exit. When I restart Outlook, it runs fine. So I'm thinking, I'll just disable the startup and start it manually after the comp has finished its other startups to see if that's the problem. But I can't find where to turn it off. It's not even on The Ultimate Troubleshooter list. MTIA Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Thu Sep 7 11:19:48 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:19:48 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <000e01c6d293$0a38adf0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <014f01c6d299$710f86b0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I use PC Anywhere with one client and I've been using Netop Remote Control per Gustav's advice a few years ago. It is much nicer than PCA. http://www.netop.com/netop-1.htm There are some free remote controls out there but I haven't found one I'm happy with. The other thing that may work is something like GoToMyPC which is IIRC web based, so only the client installs anything. www.gotomypc.com HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:34 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Dear List: I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? TIA Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 11:23:30 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:23:30 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <000a01c6d297$8c1c7e10$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <001301c6d299$f8642620$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Just tried it on two of my machines here. Easy. No problems. Any limitations that would drive me to PC Anywhere? Thanks and regards, Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:06 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Bobby: Thanks. I'll take a look at that. What's been your experience? Any problems? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:52 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere What about Remote Assistance? I use it to occasionally help people. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:34 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Dear List: I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? TIA Rocky Rocky Smolin _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 11:26:15 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:26:15 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001401c6d29a$57b16d40$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Yeah. There's no startup folder in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs like there is in C:\Documents and Settings\Rocky Smolin\Start Menu\Programs. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Did you look at it for all the users defined on your machine.... like the ALL USERS one? GK On 9/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Yeah - there's nothing in it! > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:33 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup > > Did you look in your startup folder? > > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access > Software > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM > To: List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup > > > Dear List: > > > > I can't find the setting to stop Outlook from starting automatically when I > power up the comp. Does anyone know where this switch is? I couldn't find > this in either Help or the Net. > > > > After startup, the first time I click anything in Outlook it hangs and I > have to use the task manager to exit. > > > > When I restart Outlook, it runs fine. So I'm thinking, I'll just disable > the startup and start it manually after the comp has finished its other > startups to see if that's the problem. But I can't find where to turn it > off. It's not even on The Ultimate Troubleshooter list. > > > > MTIA > > > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 11:31:02 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:31:02 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c6d29b$02c497c0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> RDC gave me a prompt which didn't 'see' any of the other machines in my network - said there were no terminal server in the workgroup. Anyway it wasn't clear how you'd connect to someone else' machine who isn't in your network. But Remote Assistance seems to work. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:02 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Windows XP has something called Remote Desktop Connection built in. Go to Accessories/Communications/Remote Desktop Connection and have a look. It's what we use here where I work and it works pretty well. All over a network connection though. Your results may vary of course. GK On 9/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. > Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her > stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything > better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From slee at asu.edu Thu Sep 7 11:36:25 2006 From: slee at asu.edu (S Lee) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:36:25 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Message-ID: <68656C04C7C0AA4883E870908A8577B2015A2D1B@EX03.asurite.ad.asu.edu> I have used http://www.tightvnc.com/ to connect to a computer in Brazil. It worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere RDC gave me a prompt which didn't 'see' any of the other machines in my network - said there were no terminal server in the workgroup. Anyway it wasn't clear how you'd connect to someone else' machine who isn't in your network. But Remote Assistance seems to work. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:02 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Windows XP has something called Remote Desktop Connection built in. Go to Accessories/Communications/Remote Desktop Connection and have a look. It's what we use here where I work and it works pretty well. All over a network connection though. Your results may vary of course. GK On 9/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. > Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her > stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything > better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 11:36:55 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:36:55 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup In-Reply-To: <014b01c6d298$b2b9f0b0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <000101c6d29b$d5228150$6701a8c0@HAL9005> That done it! Thanks John. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:14 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Use the advanced mode of Spybot S&D to look at the startup items. It should be listed there. If so uncheck it. HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:07 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Dear List: I can't find the setting to stop Outlook from starting automatically when I power up the comp. Does anyone know where this switch is? I couldn't find this in either Help or the Net. After startup, the first time I click anything in Outlook it hangs and I have to use the task manager to exit. When I restart Outlook, it runs fine. So I'm thinking, I'll just disable the startup and start it manually after the comp has finished its other startups to see if that's the problem. But I can't find where to turn it off. It's not even on The Ultimate Troubleshooter list. MTIA Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From bill_Patten at earthlink.net Thu Sep 7 11:39:16 2006 From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:39:16 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup References: <001401c6d29a$57b16d40$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <003701c6d29c$29639100$6701a8c0@BPCS> Rocky, Go to start -> run then type msconfig then select startup. This should show you all the startup things, and more importantly where they are located, either the registry or which start folder. You can un check it here if you chose but then you get pestered by the warning prompt. I think it is better to identify where the call is made and go remove it there like in HKLM\software\ Microsoft\windows\currentversion\run in the registry and remove it there. HTH B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beach Access Software" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Yeah. There's no startup folder in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs like there is in C:\Documents and Settings\Rocky Smolin\Start Menu\Programs. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Did you look at it for all the users defined on your machine.... like the ALL USERS one? GK On 9/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Yeah - there's nothing in it! > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:33 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup > > Did you look in your startup folder? > > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access > Software > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM > To: List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup > > > Dear List: > > > > I can't find the setting to stop Outlook from starting automatically when I > power up the comp. Does anyone know where this switch is? I couldn't find > this in either Help or the Net. > > > > After startup, the first time I click anything in Outlook it hangs and I > have to use the task manager to exit. > > > > When I restart Outlook, it runs fine. So I'm thinking, I'll just disable > the startup and start it manually after the comp has finished its other > startups to see if that's the problem. But I can't find where to turn it > off. It's not even on The Ultimate Troubleshooter list. > > > > MTIA > > > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Thu Sep 7 11:40:43 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <000e01c6d293$0a38adf0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <20060907164043.91812.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Personally, I'm a big fan of Terminal Services, but that might require more setup on her end than she is ready for. ----- Original Message ---- From: Beach Access Software To: List Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2006 11:33:59 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Dear List: I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? TIA Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 12:02:15 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:02:15 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup In-Reply-To: <003701c6d29c$29639100$6701a8c0@BPCS> Message-ID: <000a01c6d29f$5efc64b0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Got it thought Spybot but that would probably have done it as well. Thanks and regards, Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:39 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Rocky, Go to start -> run then type msconfig then select startup. This should show you all the startup things, and more importantly where they are located, either the registry or which start folder. You can un check it here if you chose but then you get pestered by the warning prompt. I think it is better to identify where the call is made and go remove it there like in HKLM\software\ Microsoft\windows\currentversion\run in the registry and remove it there. HTH B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beach Access Software" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Yeah. There's no startup folder in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs like there is in C:\Documents and Settings\Rocky Smolin\Start Menu\Programs. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup Did you look at it for all the users defined on your machine.... like the ALL USERS one? GK On 9/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Yeah - there's nothing in it! > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:33 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup > > Did you look in your startup folder? > > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access > Software > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM > To: List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook startup > > > Dear List: > > > > I can't find the setting to stop Outlook from starting automatically when I > power up the comp. Does anyone know where this switch is? I couldn't find > this in either Help or the Net. > > > > After startup, the first time I click anything in Outlook it hangs and I > have to use the task manager to exit. > > > > When I restart Outlook, it runs fine. So I'm thinking, I'll just disable > the startup and start it manually after the comp has finished its other > startups to see if that's the problem. But I can't find where to turn it > off. It's not even on The Ultimate Troubleshooter list. > > > > MTIA > > > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 7 12:03:37 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:03:37 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <68656C04C7C0AA4883E870908A8577B2015A2D1B@EX03.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <000b01c6d29f$8fb40310$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Looks interesting from a brief look at the web site. How do you establish a connection to the remote machine? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of S Lee Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:36 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere I have used http://www.tightvnc.com/ to connect to a computer in Brazil. It worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere RDC gave me a prompt which didn't 'see' any of the other machines in my network - said there were no terminal server in the workgroup. Anyway it wasn't clear how you'd connect to someone else' machine who isn't in your network. But Remote Assistance seems to work. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:02 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Windows XP has something called Remote Desktop Connection built in. Go to Accessories/Communications/Remote Desktop Connection and have a look. It's what we use here where I work and it works pretty well. All over a network connection though. Your results may vary of course. GK On 9/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. > Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her > stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything > better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 From slee at asu.edu Thu Sep 7 12:10:43 2006 From: slee at asu.edu (S Lee) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:10:43 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Message-ID: <68656C04C7C0AA4883E870908A8577B2015A2D1D@EX03.asurite.ad.asu.edu> I opened the viewing session and connected to the remote IP. The remote had a server session running, and received a prompt that I was incoming. It took a couple tries to connect, because the server session was looking for an authorized ID - I guess that's how the remote got set up beforehand. Once I had the ID, connecting was fine. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:04 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Looks interesting from a brief look at the web site. How do you establish a connection to the remote machine? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of S Lee Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:36 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere I have used http://www.tightvnc.com/ to connect to a computer in Brazil. It worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere RDC gave me a prompt which didn't 'see' any of the other machines in my network - said there were no terminal server in the workgroup. Anyway it wasn't clear how you'd connect to someone else' machine who isn't in your network. But Remote Assistance seems to work. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:02 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Windows XP has something called Remote Desktop Connection built in. Go to Accessories/Communications/Remote Desktop Connection and have a look. It's what we use here where I work and it works pretty well. All over a network connection though. Your results may vary of course. GK On 9/7/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. > Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her > stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything > better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at appdevgrp.com Thu Sep 7 12:20:00 2006 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:20:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E24F96@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35890@ADGSERVER> Rocky, I have had good results with it. I also use TightVNC along with Hamachi to control my home pc from work and vice-versa. The thing is with TightVNC, the controlled machine does not have to give permission first. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:06 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Bobby: Thanks. I'll take a look at that. What's been your experience? Any problems? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:52 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere What about Remote Assistance? I use it to occasionally help people. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:34 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere Dear List: I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I can show her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? TIA Rocky Rocky Smolin _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Thu Sep 7 16:38:18 2006 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:38:18 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <000e01c6d293$0a38adf0$6701a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <005601c6d2c5$f009eb50$6501a8c0@Kathryn> http://logmein.com free version. I've installed it on my Dad's computer and logged in successfully even though he's on dialup. I also log in to two of my client's computers. Many times it's saved my having to make a trip to their home. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Beach Access Software > Sent: 07 Sep 2006 8:34 am > To: List > Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere > > Dear List: > > > > I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. > Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I > can show her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. > But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release > Date: 9/5/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Sep 7 17:12:50 2006 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:12:50 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <25533459.1157665311795.JavaMail.root@sniper51> Message-ID: <004401c6d2ca$c267ff20$0200a8c0@danwaters> Kathryn, Does remote logging in work if the other PC has WXP Home? Or is WXP Pro necessary? Dan -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere http://logmein.com free version. I've installed it on my Dad's computer and logged in successfully even though he's on dialup. I also log in to two of my client's computers. Many times it's saved my having to make a trip to their home. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Beach Access Software > Sent: 07 Sep 2006 8:34 am > To: List > Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere > > Dear List: > > > > I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. > Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I > can show her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. > But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release > Date: 9/5/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Thu Sep 7 19:20:17 2006 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:20:17 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere In-Reply-To: <004401c6d2ca$c267ff20$0200a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <007101c6d2dc$90e71820$6501a8c0@Kathryn> Sorry, no idea. It just so happens that I told me Dad that I wouldn't help him anymore unless he used XPpro, so he's had that ever since I got him a new computer last year. I don't have time to explore the LogMeIn site to see what they have to say. I don't see any reasome why Home wouldn't work though, as LogMeIn runs in the systray. Kathryn > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: 07 Sep 2006 3:13 pm > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere > > Kathryn, > > Does remote logging in work if the other PC has WXP Home? Or > is WXP Pro necessary? > > Dan > > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere > > http://logmein.com free version. I've installed it on my > Dad's computer and logged in successfully even though he's on > dialup. I also log in to two of my client's computers. Many > times it's saved my having to make a trip to their home. > > -- > Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) > "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" > kathryn at bassett.net > http://bassett.net > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach > > Access Software > > Sent: 07 Sep 2006 8:34 am > > To: List > > Subject: [dba-Tech] PC Anywhere > > > > Dear List: > > > > > > > > I need to have better communications with my Taiwan distributor. > > Specifically, I need to control her computer from mine so I > can show > > her stuff in my app. We can talk by phone or Skype. > > But is there anything better than PC Anywhere for this purpose? > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > > > Beach Access Software > > > > 858-259-4334 > > > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release > > Date: 9/5/2006 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Sep 8 10:57:29 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:57:29 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless on an ME laptop Message-ID: <006b01c6d35f$7d0aa000$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: Friend of mine, psychologist, recently upgraded an old laptop with ME to a real computer (Dell with XP, etc.) He wants to put the old laptop in a second office with the old printer, and give that machine internet access. The old box had high speed through the NIC. He would prefer not to run a wire so I?m thinking that a wireless router, and USB access point (the old box DOES have USB ports) on the ME box would do the trick. HOWEVER. I?ve read a lot on the lists about what a piece of dog poop ME is. So if anyone knows of a reason why this operating system should not be joined in holy matrimony to this wireless router let him speak now. MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/441 - Release Date: 9/7/2006 From john at winhaven.net Fri Sep 8 11:26:28 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:26:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless on an ME laptop In-Reply-To: <006b01c6d35f$7d0aa000$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <012301c6d363$89ca2ff0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> ME _is_ crap but if its just an extra computer and it has worked for him in the past don't worry about it. Just add a USB wireless adapter and go for it. If he has had problems with it crashing, displaying errors, etc. then think about upgrading it to w2k or wxp. Either will run on some pretty low end hardware if you add enough RAM. (Most laptops new enough to run ME would have an additional RAM slot available.) Look on the manufacturer's web site to see if they have driver available for the newer OSs. HTH John B. From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Sep 8 11:48:59 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:48:59 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless on an ME laptop In-Reply-To: <012301c6d363$89ca2ff0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <008601c6d366$aef6e9a0$6801a8c0@HAL9005> John: Thanks for the advice. RAM upgrade would cost more than the computer is worth. So we'll just try the Access Point approach and keep our fingers crossed. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 9:26 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless on an ME laptop ME _is_ crap but if its just an extra computer and it has worked for him in the past don't worry about it. Just add a USB wireless adapter and go for it. If he has had problems with it crashing, displaying errors, etc. then think about upgrading it to w2k or wxp. Either will run on some pretty low end hardware if you add enough RAM. (Most laptops new enough to run ME would have an additional RAM slot available.) Look on the manufacturer's web site to see if they have driver available for the newer OSs. HTH John B. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/441 - Release Date: 9/7/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/441 - Release Date: 9/7/2006 From john at winhaven.net Fri Sep 8 13:39:43 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:39:43 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless on an ME laptop In-Reply-To: <008601c6d366$aef6e9a0$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <000101c6d376$277839b0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> With winME you may want to knock on wood too ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:49 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless on an ME laptop John: Thanks for the advice. RAM upgrade would cost more than the computer is worth. So we'll just try the Access Point approach and keep our fingers crossed. Rocky From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be Mon Sep 11 08:19:40 2006 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:19:40 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Roaming profile erase after logoff Message-ID: Does their exist some registry key to erase a romaing profile from a workstation as soon as the user logs off? Erwin Craps Zaakvoerder Nieuwe internetwinkel op www.ithelps.be/shop www.ithelps.be/onsgezin bezoek ook eens de website van mijn zus www.friedacraps.be This E-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and E-mail confirmation to the sender. IT Helps - I.T. Help Center *** Box Office Belgium & Luxembourg www.ithelps.be * www.boxoffice.be * www.stadleuven.be IT Helps bvba* ** Mercatorpad 3 ** 3000 Leuven IT Helps * Phone: +32 16 296 404 * Fax: +32 16 296 405 E-mail: Info at ithelps.be Box Office ** Fax: +32 16 296 406 ** Box Office E-mail: Staff at boxoffice.be From bchacc at san.rr.com Wed Sep 13 08:32:50 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:32:50 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Message-ID: <002001c6d739$1c91c220$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office with several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is married to an IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, everybody in these individual offices can work off of the wireless router and they all have to pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What other problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. One is Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from someone else but he picks up the mail from the web. MTIA, Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Sep 13 08:43:51 2006 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:43:51 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) References: <002001c6d739$1c91c220$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Rocky We put one in up on the next floor.Can in theory have 250 users. Martin Martin WP Reid Training and Assessment Unit Riddle Hall Belfast tel: 02890 974477 ________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access Software Sent: Wed 13/09/2006 14:32 To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Dear List: I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office with several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is married to an IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, everybody in these individual offices can work off of the wireless router and they all have to pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What other problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. One is Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from someone else but he picks up the mail from the web. MTIA, Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at appdevgrp.com Wed Sep 13 08:50:51 2006 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:50:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E257FE@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D358C5@ADGSERVER> Well, one thing I can think of... If this is a non-business account, you might run into traffic volume issues with the ISP. That is, if there is too much traffic, the ISP may complain. I think my router is supposed to be able to handle up to 255 connections. But I bet the practical limit is much lower. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:33 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Dear List: I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office with several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is married to an IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, everybody in these individual offices can work off of the wireless router and they all have to pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What other problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. One is Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from someone else but he picks up the mail from the web. MTIA, Rocky Rocky Smolin From bchacc at san.rr.com Wed Sep 13 08:55:44 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:55:44 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002b01c6d73c$4f339cf0$6801a8c0@HAL9005> How many concurrent users before response time beings to slow? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:44 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Rocky We put one in up on the next floor.Can in theory have 250 users. Martin Martin WP Reid Training and Assessment Unit Riddle Hall Belfast tel: 02890 974477 ________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access Software Sent: Wed 13/09/2006 14:32 To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Dear List: I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office with several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is married to an IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, everybody in these individual offices can work off of the wireless router and they all have to pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What other problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. One is Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from someone else but he picks up the mail from the web. MTIA, Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 09:04:26 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:04:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) In-Reply-To: <002001c6d739$1c91c220$6801a8c0@HAL9005> References: <002001c6d739$1c91c220$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: My rounter will manage 255 connections I think. Pretty much is stealing though. No different than shoplifting or using unlicensed software.. There could be some verbage in the user agreement regarding single entities or something I suppose. There is also security issues as with any networking situation and of course the degradation of sharing the bandwidth between many users. GK On 9/13/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office with > several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is married to an > IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, everybody in these > individual offices can work off of the wireless router and they all have to > pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). > > > > How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What other > problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? > > > > He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. One is > Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from someone else but he > picks up the mail from the web. > > > > MTIA, > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Sep 13 09:05:00 2006 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:05:00 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) References: <002b01c6d73c$4f339cf0$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Dont knwo but will ask. Its a discontinued model will get you its details. Martin Martin WP Reid Training and Assessment Unit Riddle Hall Belfast tel: 02890 974477 ________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access Software Sent: Wed 13/09/2006 14:55 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) How many concurrent users before response time beings to slow? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:44 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Rocky We put one in up on the next floor.Can in theory have 250 users. Martin Martin WP Reid Training and Assessment Unit Riddle Hall Belfast tel: 02890 974477 ________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access Software Sent: Wed 13/09/2006 14:32 To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Dear List: I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office with several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is married to an IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, everybody in these individual offices can work off of the wireless router and they all have to pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What other problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. One is Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from someone else but he picks up the mail from the web. MTIA, Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Sep 13 09:21:22 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:21:22 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00aa01c6d73f$e48b8c60$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Gary, I had to check into this for a customer (restaurant) that wanted set up a pubic wi-fi access point via their cable account. The cable company said there isn't an issue with it as long as their customers are not selling the access to their service. May be different in different parts of the world though. John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Pretty much is stealing though. No different than shoplifting or using unlicensed software.. There could be some verbage in the user agreement regarding single entities or something I suppose. There is also security issues as with any networking situation and of course the degradation of sharing the bandwidth between many users. GK From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Sep 13 09:26:22 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:26:22 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) In-Reply-To: <002001c6d739$1c91c220$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <001501c6d740$97217970$657aa8c0@m6805> A wireless router will have an effective bandwidth of less than 52 mBIT / sec. Given that the average cable connection is <3-5 mbit / sec, the wireless device itself will not be the bottleneck. Issues: 1) Security. The wireless router effectively creates one big network, linking all of the computers using that router together into one network. Each user should have their own firewall which then feeds THEIR wireless feed into this. 2) ISP Bandwidth. At 3 mbit . Sec, it only takes one yahoo uploading or downloading files, listening to music, watching video clips etc to suck up most of the available bandwidth. 3) Legalities. AFAIK it is quite legal for a single business (or home) to do this within their business. To group businesses on one feed is questionable. Whether the individual business would be liable I don't know, but it is considered "theft of service" and the cable companies don't like this. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:33 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Dear List: I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office with several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is married to an IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, everybody in these individual offices can work off of the wireless router and they all have to pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What other problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. One is Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from someone else but he picks up the mail from the web. MTIA, Rocky Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Sep 13 09:26:42 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:26:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) In-Reply-To: <002001c6d739$1c91c220$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <00ab01c6d740$a2ded870$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> It sounds like a small office where number of users (generally < 250) isn't going to be the issue but rather traffic versus bandwidth. Of course if everyone is pitching in to cover the cost of the one connection then they can always increase the bandwidth. (IRRC AT&T's DSL goes up to 6MB download rates now). Think of it as a public access point at Starbucks or the like - they can have hundreds on at once. HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office with several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is married to an IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, everybody in these individual offices can work off of the wireless router and they all have to pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What other problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. One is Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from someone else but he picks up the mail from the web. From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 10:43:41 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:43:41 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) In-Reply-To: <00aa01c6d73f$e48b8c60$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <00aa01c6d73f$e48b8c60$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: I guess it would be pretty hard to enforce anyway. On 9/13/06, John Bartow wrote: > Gary, > I had to check into this for a customer (restaurant) that wanted set up a > pubic wi-fi access point via their cable account. The cable company said > there isn't an issue with it as long as their customers are not selling the > access to their service. May be different in different parts of the world > though. > > John B. -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be Wed Sep 13 13:05:53 2006 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:05:53 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Message-ID: There's one issue I not see to be covered yet, unless I missed it. That is that most low cost routers can theoreticly manage 255 users (typicaly a C class IP range), the processing unit itself is not powerfull enough. Once I had a wireless router, I think an SMC that overheated after 30 minutes or so when transfering files from a fixed pc to a wireless pc (both local, not internet). This was due to the encryption that caused the CPU to overheat. This is still true for current low cost routers. The cpu power is way to weak to support many users simulteaniously mainly due to the encyption that needs to be done. Overheating is one issue, and network speed seems to drop rapidly when using several encrypted wireless channels. The wireless bandwith will also be devided by the number if users, I don't now how that goes but you can not have 54Mbps each and every user. Ofcourse because xdsl is so slow compared to wired or wireless networks that will not be a real issue for x number of users. Anyway, I would not go above 10 users per wireless low cost router (for internet access). If you also gonna use it for local network access, try to use cabling rather then wireless. I theres is 1 or more heavy internet users, you gonna get complaints over slowness. And don't forget you need also internal good security because your collegue internet users could get access to your computer. That can also be solved with the router. There are routers where you can confige only internet access and not local networking. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:44 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) I guess it would be pretty hard to enforce anyway. On 9/13/06, John Bartow wrote: > Gary, > I had to check into this for a customer (restaurant) that wanted set > up a pubic wi-fi access point via their cable account. The cable > company said there isn't an issue with it as long as their customers > are not selling the access to their service. May be different in > different parts of the world though. > > John B. -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Wed Sep 13 16:32:54 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:32:54 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003301c6d77c$2dceec50$0300a8c0@jt2> Yeah, specifically says that I can't do that in my broadband agreement. Although I'd be more concerned about keeping my pc secure from the other people in the building... A good firewall and AV would be essential. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: 13 September 2006 15:04 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) My rounter will manage 255 connections I think. Pretty much is stealing though. No different than shoplifting or using unlicensed software.. There could be some verbage in the user agreement regarding single entities or something I suppose. There is also security issues as with any networking situation and of course the degradation of sharing the bandwidth between many users. GK On 9/13/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office > with several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is > married to an IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, > everybody in these individual offices can work off of the wireless > router and they all have to pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). > > > > How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What > other problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? > > > > He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. > One is Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from > someone else but he picks up the mail from the web. > > > > MTIA, > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: > 9/12/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Sep 14 13:39:44 2006 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:39:44 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF7E@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> Recently I took advantage of Time Warner's offer to upgrade to their premier broadband service.This is supposed to increase speed to between 6-8 Mbps down and .5 up from 2-4 Mbps currently. My main machine, as measured using several internet sites, stayed at exactly 1.73 Mbps. Upload increased from .17 to .35. After complaining TW had me check my other machines (after rebooting all machines and resetting the modem and router). Sure enough the other machines increased markedly to 4.9 Mbps. The slow machine is a 6 year old Dell optiplex running windows 2000 prof with Norton firewall and virus protection. The other machines are cheap but newer HPs running Windows XP prof. and Norton antivirus (no firewall). The router is a standard linksys. I turned off the Norton firewall with no improvement. Does anyone know what is going on here and how to fix it? TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Sep 14 13:56:50 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:56:50 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) In-Reply-To: <003301c6d77c$2dceec50$0300a8c0@jt2> Message-ID: <007a01c6d82f$89c7e800$6801a8c0@HAL9005> Thanks to everyone who responded. The info was very useful to my friend. Me too. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:33 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) Yeah, specifically says that I can't do that in my broadband agreement. Although I'd be more concerned about keeping my pc secure from the other people in the building... A good firewall and AV would be essential. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: 13 September 2006 15:04 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] One (router) to Many (users) My rounter will manage 255 connections I think. Pretty much is stealing though. No different than shoplifting or using unlicensed software.. There could be some verbage in the user agreement regarding single entities or something I suppose. There is also security issues as with any networking situation and of course the degradation of sharing the bandwidth between many users. GK On 9/13/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > > > I have a friend who is a clinical psychologist and is in an office > with several other offices adjacent. One of the recent move-ins is > married to an IT type who is going to set up a wireless router. Then, > everybody in these individual offices can work off of the wireless > router and they all have to pay only one fee to the ISP (in this case AT&T). > > > > How many people can be using one wireless router at a time? What > other problems might he anticipate from this arrangement? > > > > He gets all of his email from the web, BTW. One account is a Yahoo. > One is Road Runner which he has at home. The third one is from > someone else but he picks up the mail from the web. > > > > MTIA, > > > > Rocky > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: > 9/12/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 9/13/2006 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Sep 14 14:57:05 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:57:05 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF7E@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> Message-ID: <000401c6d837$f4e5ce60$657aa8c0@m6805> Are you sure the "old machine" just isn't the bottleneck? There is overhead in everything you are trying to do. Your system as a whole may just not be fast enough to handle any more speed. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:40 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Recently I took advantage of Time Warner's offer to upgrade to their premier broadband service.This is supposed to increase speed to between 6-8 Mbps down and .5 up from 2-4 Mbps currently. My main machine, as measured using several internet sites, stayed at exactly 1.73 Mbps. Upload increased from .17 to .35. After complaining TW had me check my other machines (after rebooting all machines and resetting the modem and router). Sure enough the other machines increased markedly to 4.9 Mbps. The slow machine is a 6 year old Dell optiplex running windows 2000 prof with Norton firewall and virus protection. The other machines are cheap but newer HPs running Windows XP prof. and Norton antivirus (no firewall). The router is a standard linksys. I turned off the Norton firewall with no improvement. Does anyone know what is going on here and how to fix it? TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Sep 14 15:15:37 2006 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:15:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF82@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> Could be but I can't figure out how to test it. I tried running the internet speed test with no apps running but no joy, same result. I don't think it is a slow NIC cause files zip around the intranet OK. Jim -----Original Message----- From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:57 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Are you sure the "old machine" just isn't the bottleneck? There is overhead in everything you are trying to do. Your system as a whole may just not be fast enough to handle any more speed. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:40 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Recently I took advantage of Time Warner's offer to upgrade to their premier broadband service.This is supposed to increase speed to between 6-8 Mbps down and .5 up from 2-4 Mbps currently. My main machine, as measured using several internet sites, stayed at exactly 1.73 Mbps. Upload increased from .17 to .35. After complaining TW had me check my other machines (after rebooting all machines and resetting the modem and router). Sure enough the other machines increased markedly to 4.9 Mbps. The slow machine is a 6 year old Dell optiplex running windows 2000 prof with Norton firewall and virus protection. The other machines are cheap but newer HPs running Windows XP prof. and Norton antivirus (no firewall). The router is a standard linksys. I turned off the Norton firewall with no improvement. Does anyone know what is going on here and how to fix it? TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Sep 14 15:41:55 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:41:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF82@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF82@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> Message-ID: Some of the speed test sites have utilities to test your settings. I have used the one at; http://www.dslreports.com/tools It's called TWEAK TEST and is near the bottom of the tools page.It's a Java app that doesn't actually change anything just transmits a file back and forth and then displays results - you have to enter info about your connection and system to get the results and recommendations. GK On 9/14/06, Hale, Jim wrote: > Could be but I can't figure out how to test it. I tried running the internet > speed test with no apps running but no joy, same result. I don't think it is > a slow NIC cause files zip around the intranet OK. > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:57 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband > > > Are you sure the "old machine" just isn't the bottleneck? There is overhead > in everything you are trying to do. Your system as a whole may just not be > fast enough to handle any more speed. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:40 PM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband > > Recently I took advantage of Time Warner's offer to upgrade to their premier > broadband service.This is supposed to increase speed to between 6-8 Mbps > down and .5 up from 2-4 Mbps currently. My main machine, as measured using > several internet sites, stayed at exactly 1.73 Mbps. Upload increased from > .17 to .35. After complaining TW had me check my other machines (after > rebooting all machines and resetting the modem and router). Sure enough the > other machines increased markedly to 4.9 Mbps. The slow machine is a 6 year > old Dell optiplex running windows 2000 prof with Norton firewall and virus > protection. The other machines are cheap but newer HPs running Windows XP > prof. and Norton antivirus (no firewall). The router is a standard linksys. > I turned off the Norton firewall with no improvement. Does anyone know what > is going on here and how to fix it? TIA Jim Hale > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or > taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other > than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are > responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments > for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused > by any virus transmitted by this email. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, > you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any > attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Sep 14 15:48:44 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:48:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF82@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> Message-ID: <001001c6d83f$2c3b7070$657aa8c0@m6805> What are the specs on this thing? OS, cpu / speed, memory? Hard disk size / free, defrag state? You turned off the firewall, can you also turn off NAV? Not sure if it would affect a internet speed test or not. One thing you might try is getting ahold of one of those internet speed optimizers. CableNut is one I use. It tests the machine and the internet connection, then sets up windows / network stuff to optimize the registry stuff for that machine for that internet connection. Might be worth a shot. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Could be but I can't figure out how to test it. I tried running the internet speed test with no apps running but no joy, same result. I don't think it is a slow NIC cause files zip around the intranet OK. Jim -----Original Message----- From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:57 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Are you sure the "old machine" just isn't the bottleneck? There is overhead in everything you are trying to do. Your system as a whole may just not be fast enough to handle any more speed. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:40 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Recently I took advantage of Time Warner's offer to upgrade to their premier broadband service.This is supposed to increase speed to between 6-8 Mbps down and .5 up from 2-4 Mbps currently. My main machine, as measured using several internet sites, stayed at exactly 1.73 Mbps. Upload increased from .17 to .35. After complaining TW had me check my other machines (after rebooting all machines and resetting the modem and router). Sure enough the other machines increased markedly to 4.9 Mbps. The slow machine is a 6 year old Dell optiplex running windows 2000 prof with Norton firewall and virus protection. The other machines are cheap but newer HPs running Windows XP prof. and Norton antivirus (no firewall). The router is a standard linksys. I turned off the Norton firewall with no improvement. Does anyone know what is going on here and how to fix it? TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Sep 14 15:56:23 2006 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:56:23 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband In-Reply-To: <11939304.1158266769449.JavaMail.root@sniper42> Message-ID: <002a01c6d840$3dbb27e0$0200a8c0@danwaters> Gary, You can go to www.speedguide.net/downloads.php and get a free app call TCP Optimizer. This will optimize the settings on your PC for internet connections. My DSL provider, Qwest(!), suggests this on their DSL troubleshooting web page. It did improve my speed by going from about 325 kbps to 1300 kbps. Dan Waters -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Some of the speed test sites have utilities to test your settings. I have used the one at; http://www.dslreports.com/tools It's called TWEAK TEST and is near the bottom of the tools page.It's a Java app that doesn't actually change anything just transmits a file back and forth and then displays results - you have to enter info about your connection and system to get the results and recommendations. GK On 9/14/06, Hale, Jim wrote: > Could be but I can't figure out how to test it. I tried running the internet > speed test with no apps running but no joy, same result. I don't think it is > a slow NIC cause files zip around the intranet OK. > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:57 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband > > > Are you sure the "old machine" just isn't the bottleneck? There is overhead > in everything you are trying to do. Your system as a whole may just not be > fast enough to handle any more speed. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:40 PM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband > > Recently I took advantage of Time Warner's offer to upgrade to their premier > broadband service.This is supposed to increase speed to between 6-8 Mbps > down and .5 up from 2-4 Mbps currently. My main machine, as measured using > several internet sites, stayed at exactly 1.73 Mbps. Upload increased from > .17 to .35. After complaining TW had me check my other machines (after > rebooting all machines and resetting the modem and router). Sure enough the > other machines increased markedly to 4.9 Mbps. The slow machine is a 6 year > old Dell optiplex running windows 2000 prof with Norton firewall and virus > protection. The other machines are cheap but newer HPs running Windows XP > prof. and Norton antivirus (no firewall). The router is a standard linksys. > I turned off the Norton firewall with no improvement. Does anyone know what > is going on here and how to fix it? TIA Jim Hale > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or > taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other > than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are > responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments > for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused > by any virus transmitted by this email. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. 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No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Sep 14 15:57:08 2006 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 06:57:08 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF7E@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF7E@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> Message-ID: <450A4EC4.23431.D331152@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 14 Sep 2006 at 13:39, Hale, Jim wrote: > Recently I took advantage of Time Warner's offer to upgrade to their premier > broadband service.This is supposed to increase speed to between 6-8 Mbps > down and .5 up from 2-4 Mbps currently. My main machine, as measured using > several internet sites, stayed at exactly 1.73 Mbps. Upload increased from > .17 to .35. After complaining TW had me check my other machines (after > rebooting all machines and resetting the modem and router). Sure enough the > other machines increased markedly to 4.9 Mbps. The slow machine is a 6 year > old Dell optiplex running windows 2000 prof with Norton firewall and virus > protection. The other machines are cheap but newer HPs running Windows XP > prof. and Norton antivirus (no firewall). The router is a standard linksys. > I turned off the Norton firewall with no improvement. Does anyone know what > is going on here and how to fix it? TIA Jim Hale > I'd suspect the TCP settings on the old machine. It's probaby optimized for dail-up and there may be anumber of factors involved including packet fragmentation and buffer sizes. Grab a copy of TCP Optimizer from http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php "Description: The TCP Optimizer is a free, easy Windows program that provides an intuitive interface for tuning and optimizing your Internet connection. There is no installation required, just download and run. The program can aid both the novice and the advanced user in tweaking related TCP/IP parameters in the Windows Registry, making it easy to tune your system to the type of Internet connection used..."-- Stuart From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Sep 14 15:58:25 2006 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:58:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF85@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> Thanks, I'll look at it when I go home tonight -----Original Message----- From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:49 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband What are the specs on this thing? OS, cpu / speed, memory? Hard disk size / free, defrag state? You turned off the firewall, can you also turn off NAV? Not sure if it would affect a internet speed test or not. One thing you might try is getting ahold of one of those internet speed optimizers. CableNut is one I use. It tests the machine and the internet connection, then sets up windows / network stuff to optimize the registry stuff for that machine for that internet connection. Might be worth a shot. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Sep 14 16:00:39 2006 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:00:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF87@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> I'll give it a go tonight, Thanks Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:42 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Some of the speed test sites have utilities to test your settings. I have used the one at; http://www.dslreports.com/tools It's called TWEAK TEST and is near the bottom of the tools page.It's a Java app that doesn't actually change anything just transmits a file back and forth and then displays results - you have to enter info about your connection and system to get the results and recommendations. GK *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From artful at rogers.com Fri Sep 15 10:37:49 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Duo-core processors In-Reply-To: <007101c6d2dc$90e71820$6501a8c0@Kathryn> Message-ID: <20060915153749.20181.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> This may be stupid questions (or in the immortal words of The Simpsons, there are no stupid questions, only stupid people). But I digress. Is a duo-core CPU viewed by such processes as SQL 2005 as 2 CPUs? And assuming that it is, and further assuming that there are 2GB of RAM aboard, how does the system decide which vcpu gets how much RAM? In particular, I was thinking about parallel queries in SQL. TIA, Arthur From jim.moss at jlmoss.net Fri Sep 15 10:59:37 2006 From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:59:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Duo-core processors In-Reply-To: <20060915153749.20181.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <007101c6d2dc$90e71820$6501a8c0@Kathryn> <20060915153749.20181.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50146.65.196.182.34.1158335977.squirrel@65.196.182.34> Dual core processors are seen by the OS as 1 CPU > This may be stupid questions (or in the immortal words of The Simpsons, > there are no stupid questions, only stupid people). But I digress. > > Is a duo-core CPU viewed by such processes as SQL 2005 as 2 CPUs? And > assuming that it is, and further assuming that there are 2GB of RAM > aboard, how does the system decide which vcpu gets how much RAM? In > particular, I was thinking about parallel queries in SQL. > > TIA, > Arthur > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From darsant at gmail.com Fri Sep 15 11:18:17 2006 From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:18:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Duo-core processors In-Reply-To: <50146.65.196.182.34.1158335977.squirrel@65.196.182.34> References: <007101c6d2dc$90e71820$6501a8c0@Kathryn> <20060915153749.20181.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <50146.65.196.182.34.1158335977.squirrel@65.196.182.34> Message-ID: <53c8e05a0609150918l283ba962xbd543bf00c9d30a@mail.gmail.com> Not quite true. The OS sees it as two logical CPUs and assigns tasks as such. You can go into task manager and assign to one CPU or another. However, for hardware requirements, Windows by default treats it as a "hyper-threading" processor - IE you can run 4 'true' cores within XP, which has a physical processor cap of I think 2 IIRC. The AMD Dual Cores at least have an expanded identification that signifies them as dual cores, and not just hyper-threaded. This is recognized by newer versions of Windows and other OS's, but is backwards compatible, appearing as the HyperThreaded processor to OSes using the old ID format. SQL Server should recognize it as two seperate logical CPUs - Visual Studio will shoot builds off to both cores seperately if you have the latest version. However, I've never used SQL Server, so Microsoft may have it set up seperately. In general, if a program enumerates the available CPUs, they will see CPU 0 and CPU 1 available on a single dual core machine. You can force thread affinity to one or the other, but in general Windows will optimize thread affinity for you. ASAIK, there is no different addressing for RAM, it's just allocated from the global pool. Windows might do optimizing under the hood, but a pointer to memory is the same without regard to which processor you're sitting on. Josh On 9/15/06, Jim Moss wrote: > Dual core processors are seen by the OS as 1 CPU > > > This may be stupid questions (or in the immortal words of The Simpsons, > > there are no stupid questions, only stupid people). But I digress. > > > > Is a duo-core CPU viewed by such processes as SQL 2005 as 2 CPUs? And > > assuming that it is, and further assuming that there are 2GB of RAM > > aboard, how does the system decide which vcpu gets how much RAM? In > > particular, I was thinking about parallel queries in SQL. > > > > TIA, > > Arthur > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Josh McFarlane http://www.joshmcfarlane.com "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." -Albert Einstein From jon at tydda.plus.com Fri Sep 15 15:29:29 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 21:29:29 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DDF7E@corp-es01.fleetpride.com> Message-ID: <005501c6d905$a817be30$0300a8c0@jt2> I had a similar problem... One of the PCs in the house was working fine, one of the other was was having all sorts of disconnection problems, and just wasn't fast... So I tried loads of things, before buying a new router, which cured it. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: 14 September 2006 19:40 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow broadband Recently I took advantage of Time Warner's offer to upgrade to their premier broadband service.This is supposed to increase speed to between 6-8 Mbps down and .5 up from 2-4 Mbps currently. My main machine, as measured using several internet sites, stayed at exactly 1.73 Mbps. Upload increased from .17 to .35. After complaining TW had me check my other machines (after rebooting all machines and resetting the modem and router). Sure enough the other machines increased markedly to 4.9 Mbps. The slow machine is a 6 year old Dell optiplex running windows 2000 prof with Norton firewall and virus protection. The other machines are cheap but newer HPs running Windows XP prof. and Norton antivirus (no firewall). The router is a standard linksys. I turned off the Norton firewall with no improvement. Does anyone know what is going on here and how to fix it? TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From artful at rogers.com Mon Sep 18 12:44:34 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Vista RC In-Reply-To: <005501c6d905$a817be30$0300a8c0@jt2> Message-ID: <20060918174434.80678.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have three computers that one might think the Vista RC would work on, but it works on none of them. 1. Toshiba Tecra 2GB RAM 2 GZ disk. Message says "cannot install on this box without a BIOS upgrade." The Tosh site is less than useful, in terms of easily finding the BIOS to download. 2. HP duo-core 2GB RAM, purchased only months ago. 64-bit Install hangs -- boots up ok then dies. 3. P4 1.5 GZ 1.5 GB RAM, 32-bit install won't even boot. For some reason this box doesn't even recognize the DVD, although the others do. Anyone got any ideas? TIA, Arthur From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Sep 18 13:47:04 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:47:04 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Vista RC In-Reply-To: <20060918174434.80678.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002001c6db52$d6c3b870$0300a8c0@jt2> Personally, I'd try the 32 bit install for the HP duo core, evenif it IS a 64 bit chip... I know that support for 64 bit chips isn't wonderful in XP, and I'd wonder if they'd have bothered doing it for the beta version of Vista... Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com Sent: 18 September 2006 18:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Vista RC I have three computers that one might think the Vista RC would work on, but it works on none of them. 1. Toshiba Tecra 2GB RAM 2 GZ disk. Message says "cannot install on this box without a BIOS upgrade." The Tosh site is less than useful, in terms of easily finding the BIOS to download. 2. HP duo-core 2GB RAM, purchased only months ago. 64-bit Install hangs -- boots up ok then dies. 3. P4 1.5 GZ 1.5 GB RAM, 32-bit install won't even boot. For some reason this box doesn't even recognize the DVD, although the others do. Anyone got any ideas? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Sep 18 15:37:34 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:37:34 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Vista RC In-Reply-To: <20060918174434.80678.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008e01c6db62$45c05b70$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Reminds me of the old joke that starts: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:45 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Vista RC I have three computers that one might think the Vista RC would work on, but it works on none of them. 1. Toshiba Tecra 2GB RAM 2 GZ disk. Message says "cannot install on this box without a BIOS upgrade." The Tosh site is less than useful, in terms of easily finding the BIOS to download. 2. HP duo-core 2GB RAM, purchased only months ago. 64-bit Install hangs -- boots up ok then dies. 3. P4 1.5 GZ 1.5 GB RAM, 32-bit install won't even boot. For some reason this box doesn't even recognize the DVD, although the others do. Anyone got any ideas? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 From artful at rogers.com Mon Sep 18 20:24:42 2006 From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Vista RC In-Reply-To: <002001c6db52$d6c3b870$0300a8c0@jt2> Message-ID: <20060919012442.96781.qmail@web88212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Good thought. I'll try that. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jon Tydda To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:47:04 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Vista RC Personally, I'd try the 32 bit install for the HP duo core, evenif it IS a 64 bit chip... I know that support for 64 bit chips isn't wonderful in XP, and I'd wonder if they'd have bothered doing it for the beta version of Vista... Jon From john at winhaven.net Wed Sep 20 12:38:42 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:38:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] CD burning machine Message-ID: <015601c6dcdb$9ddf6650$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Hi all, I need to put together a machine for burning multiple CDs. I want to add ten CD/RW drives if possible. And I want to make this from used parts that I have if possible. I have: a case with 10 5-1/4" bays 7 CD/RW drives A socket 478 MB with 2 IDE channels A Pentium 4 RAM A 450w power supply I can get an add-in PCI card for about $40 which will give me two more IDE channels So given that I have 1 HD on the IDE that gives me 7 IDE devices that I can run. I could add another PCI/IDE card but I'm worried about not having enough interrupts. Any thoughts/ideas on this would be appreciated. John B. From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 12:51:56 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:51:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] CD burning machine In-Reply-To: <015601c6dcdb$9ddf6650$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <015601c6dcdb$9ddf6650$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: Are you planning to run 10 copies of the burning program at the same time? Is that gonna work? On 9/20/06, John Bartow wrote: > Hi all, > I need to put together a machine for burning multiple CDs. I want to add ten > CD/RW drives if possible. And I want to make this from used parts that I > have if possible. > > I have: > a case with 10 5-1/4" bays > 7 CD/RW drives > A socket 478 MB with 2 IDE channels > A Pentium 4 > RAM > A 450w power supply > > I can get an add-in PCI card for about $40 which will give me two more IDE > channels > > So given that I have 1 HD on the IDE that gives me 7 IDE devices that I can > run. I could add another PCI/IDE card but I'm worried about not having > enough interrupts. > > Any thoughts/ideas on this would be appreciated. > > John B. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Sep 20 14:01:15 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:01:15 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] CD burning machine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <01a501c6dce7$2620aeb0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Gary, Nero can burn to multiple units at once. I'm doing three right now. I generally burn 10 at a time, at least once a week, so my goal is to have ten burners that I feed once and am done. I looked into the units that burn and print CDs automagically but $1500 is a lot of mula for what I'm doing. Plus supplies for them would probably have to be specialized so I would imagine the costs for those would go up too. Repetitive, piece work activities are the type of thing that drives me nuts so I'm trying to alleviate a drain on my psyche :o) From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 15:10:17 2006 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:10:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] CD burning machine In-Reply-To: <01a501c6dce7$2620aeb0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <01a501c6dce7$2620aeb0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: I see. I didn't know that Nero could do that. I've been experiencing a lot of CD failures of late - well "a lot" may be stretching it. I have had exactly 3 fail so far. All home burned music CD's and all with adheisive labels attached to them. The ones that failed were burned in 2001 and 2002. I was burning about 3 a week for a while there so I have a pretty large library of my Station KJOS disks. I have been reurning the ones that have gone bad on my from the playlists and no longer use adheisive labels on my burned CD's as that seems to be the main difference between the ones that have failed and the ones that have not. Good luck with your megaburner. Let us know if it works out. GK On 9/20/06, John Bartow wrote: > Gary, > Nero can burn to multiple units at once. I'm doing three right now. I > generally burn 10 at a time, at least once a week, so my goal is to have ten > burners that I feed once and am done. > > I looked into the units that burn and print CDs automagically but $1500 is a > lot of mula for what I'm doing. Plus supplies for them would probably have > to be specialized so I would imagine the costs for those would go up too. > > Repetitive, piece work activities are the type of thing that drives me nuts > so I'm trying to alleviate a drain on my psyche :o) > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Sep 20 16:07:58 2006 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:07:58 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] CD burning machine In-Reply-To: References: , <01a501c6dce7$2620aeb0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq>, Message-ID: <45123A4E.7764.24BA4D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 20 Sep 2006 at 15:10, Gary Kjos wrote: > I see. I didn't know that Nero could do that. I've been experiencing a > lot of CD failures of late - well "a lot" may be stretching it. I have > had exactly 3 fail so far. All home burned music CD's and all with > adheisive labels attached to them. The ones that failed were burned in > 2001 and 2002. I was burning about 3 a week for a while there so I > have a pretty large library of my Station KJOS disks. I have been > reurning the ones that have gone bad on my from the playlists and no > longer use adheisive labels on my burned CD's as that seems to be the > main difference between the ones that have failed and the ones that > have not. Yep, labels appear to be the main culprit in killing CDs. Here's a good article on CD life: http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=15800263 -- Stuart From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Sep 21 09:05:43 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:05:43 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Webcam person-to-person Message-ID: Hi all A client needs to meet with customers face to face via unspecified webcams. It should be via a service, not peer-to-peer, like these: http://www.megameeting.com/pers http://www.cuworld.com/live_webcam_streaming.htmonal.html No conference, just two attendees. No specific hardware should be needed. Anyone having experience with this? /gustav From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Thu Sep 21 11:29:38 2006 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:29:38 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles Message-ID: A while back IT created two profiles in Outlook 2003, one was for a new project with it's own mailbox and the other was for regular Outlook. It's a pain in the a** because you have to close Outlook in order to change profiles. Can I whack these profiles without losing anything. Ed Edward P. Tesiny Assistant Director for Evaluation Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement New York State OASAS 1450 Western Ave. Albany, New York 12203-3526 Phone: (518) 485-7189 Fax: (518) 485-5769 Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Sep 21 12:37:01 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:37:01 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006e01c6dda4$8c516f40$657aa8c0@m6805> LOL, I notice you aren't asking IT that question. ;-) I am guessing that each profile has it's own associated mail box, so if you whack the profile... The mailbox file itself MIGHT still be there but you will no doubt need to import the emails / addresses etc into the outlook mailbox still in use so that you can see all your correspondence. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:30 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles A while back IT created two profiles in Outlook 2003, one was for a new project with it's own mailbox and the other was for regular Outlook. It's a pain in the a** because you have to close Outlook in order to change profiles. Can I whack these profiles without losing anything. Ed Edward P. Tesiny Assistant Director for Evaluation Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement New York State OASAS 1450 Western Ave. Albany, New York 12203-3526 Phone: (518) 485-7189 Fax: (518) 485-5769 Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From JRojas at tnco-inc.com Thu Sep 21 12:47:26 2006 From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:47:26 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDDD0@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com> If the mailboxes are on an Exchange Server you could actually "combine" the two mailboxes into one profile. It varies depending on the version of outlook you're using but you need to open the profile settings, go to the advanced tab and add the mailbox to the "Open these additional mailboxes" section. Thanks, Joe Rojas IT Manager TNCO, Inc. 781-447-6661 x7506 jrojas at tnco-inc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:30 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles A while back IT created two profiles in Outlook 2003, one was for a new project with it's own mailbox and the other was for regular Outlook. It's a pain in the a** because you have to close Outlook in order to change profiles. Can I whack these profiles without losing anything. Ed Edward P. Tesiny Assistant Director for Evaluation Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement New York State OASAS 1450 Western Ave. Albany, New York 12203-3526 Phone: (518) 485-7189 Fax: (518) 485-5769 Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Thu Sep 21 13:31:20 2006 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:31:20 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4512DA78.9010209@shaw.ca> Might get an answer here. http://www.slipstick.com Tesiny, Ed wrote: >A while back IT created two profiles in Outlook 2003, one was for a new >project with it's own mailbox and the other was for regular Outlook. >It's a pain in the a** because you have to close Outlook in order to >change profiles. Can I whack these profiles without losing anything. >Ed > >Edward P. Tesiny >Assistant Director for Evaluation >Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement >New York State OASAS >1450 Western Ave. >Albany, New York 12203-3526 >Phone: (518) 485-7189 >Fax: (518) 485-5769 >Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Thu Sep 21 13:47:08 2006 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:47:08 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles Message-ID: Well, I'm almost there. I added the mailbox (MATS) to my outlook tree and when I sent mail to it, it shows up. Problem is when I was using the MATS profile I created a rule that forwarded the email to my Outlook Inbox and even though I deleted the MATS profile, the rule I created under the MATS profile still works. Any idea how to delete the rule? Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > MartyConnelly > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:31 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles > > Might get an answer here. > http://www.slipstick.com > > > Tesiny, Ed wrote: > > >A while back IT created two profiles in Outlook 2003, one > was for a new > >project with it's own mailbox and the other was for regular Outlook. > >It's a pain in the a** because you have to close Outlook in order to > >change profiles. Can I whack these profiles without losing anything. > >Ed > > > >Edward P. Tesiny > >Assistant Director for Evaluation > >Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement > >New York State OASAS > >1450 Western Ave. > >Albany, New York 12203-3526 > >Phone: (518) 485-7189 > >Fax: (518) 485-5769 > >Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > > >_______________________________________________ > >dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > Marty Connelly > Victoria, B.C. > Canada > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be Fri Sep 22 01:26:12 2006 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:26:12 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles Message-ID: You will need to change security on the secondmailbox to for that specific user, but if it already work with two profiles on same user, it is already set. Please keep in mind that if you replay a mail from the second mailbox you will replay as the main user profile, hower I noticed that in O2K3 it already fills in the other users send as. But you also need "send on behalf of" rights on the Exchange server because that I believe that is not included in the "full mailbox access". -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Joe Rojas Verzonden: donderdag 21 september 2006 19:47 Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles If the mailboxes are on an Exchange Server you could actually "combine" the two mailboxes into one profile. It varies depending on the version of outlook you're using but you need to open the profile settings, go to the advanced tab and add the mailbox to the "Open these additional mailboxes" section. Thanks, Joe Rojas IT Manager TNCO, Inc. 781-447-6661 x7506 jrojas at tnco-inc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:30 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles A while back IT created two profiles in Outlook 2003, one was for a new project with it's own mailbox and the other was for regular Outlook. It's a pain in the a** because you have to close Outlook in order to change profiles. Can I whack these profiles without losing anything. Ed Edward P. Tesiny Assistant Director for Evaluation Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement New York State OASAS 1450 Western Ave. Albany, New York 12203-3526 Phone: (518) 485-7189 Fax: (518) 485-5769 Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Fri Sep 22 09:10:50 2006 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:10:50 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles (solved) Message-ID: FWIW, the only way I could delete the rules was to recreate the MATS profile and sure enough there were 3 rules still there. Deleted them, then deleted the MATS profile and all is good. Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Erwin Craps - IT Helps > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:26 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles > > You will need to change security on the secondmailbox to for that > specific user, but if it already work with two profiles on > same user, it > is already set. > > Please keep in mind that if you replay a mail from the second mailbox > you will replay as the main user profile, hower I noticed that in O2K3 > it already fills in the other users send as. > But you also need "send on behalf of" rights on the Exchange server > because that I believe that is not included in the "full mailbox > access". > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Joe Rojas > Verzonden: donderdag 21 september 2006 19:47 > Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles > > If the mailboxes are on an Exchange Server you could actually > "combine" > the two mailboxes into one profile. > > It varies depending on the version of outlook you're using > but you need > to open the profile settings, go to the advanced tab and add > the mailbox > to the "Open these additional mailboxes" section. > > Thanks, > Joe Rojas > IT Manager > TNCO, Inc. > 781-447-6661 x7506 > jrojas at tnco-inc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:30 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Profiles > > A while back IT created two profiles in Outlook 2003, one was > for a new > project with it's own mailbox and the other was for regular Outlook. > It's a pain in the a** because you have to close Outlook in order to > change profiles. Can I whack these profiles without losing anything. > Ed > > Edward P. Tesiny > Assistant Director for Evaluation > Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement New York State > OASAS 1450 > Western Ave. > Albany, New York 12203-3526 > Phone: (518) 485-7189 > Fax: (518) 485-5769 > Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Sep 24 18:20:59 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:20:59 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper Message-ID: <000301c6e030$1b176d50$0300a8c0@jt2> Anyone out there use Webroot Spysweeper version 5? I've had it installed for a while, and it's pretty good, but I've just discovered 65000 temporary files in it's folder... they're all 0k in size, so it's only using 17mb, but still, 65k files is a lot... It's taken ten minutes to delete them all, I was just wondering if that was normal behaviour for it... Jon From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Sep 25 00:08:33 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:08:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? Message-ID: <000001c6e060$a76eda60$657aa8c0@m6805> Well, I did it; I ordered most of the stuff required to build a controller project. Back in 1997 or so, while I was living in Puebla Mexico, I was tasked with building a controller based phone debit card vending machine. I designed it from the ground up, specing the micro-controller (a zworld z8xxx based SBC), using a bill acceptor and a custom built vending hopper to vend the debit cards. The micro was a ready built board with a ton of i/o pins, rs488, rs232 etc. It cost $180 qty 1. The language was a custom 'C' dialect written for ZWorld for use on their boards. In the end, 250 of the machines were produced, about 100 actually went into use around Puebla and in the subway in Mexico DF. Eventually the company went under, I found AccessD (1997) and I have been in this world ever since. It was the most fun I have ever had on a job, and I have been itching to get back in to controllers ever since. This time around I did the research and selected the Atmel family, specifically the AVR line http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/devices.asp?family_id=607 These are extremely cheap, extremely powerful u-controllers. I purchased a handful of them as well as a programmer / debugger board and a demo board http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?family_id=607 &family_name=AVR+8%2DBit+RISC+&tool_id=3146 which can be (re) programmed. I briefly considered the PIC family of controllers but they are pretty archaic and once I discovered the AVR I was sold. Life is cool again. Of course it is a learning curve reminiscent of .Net. I have been out of the controller world for many years and have to learn everything from scratch, the chips, the IDE, the 'C' compiler, the programmer / debugger. The tools so far are sooooo cool. There is a free IDE, assembler, 'C' language etc. The emulator actually allows you to watch the program run (I have written my first assembler program, though I don't have hardware yet), watch the registers, I/O pins etc, do all of the things you need to do to program - breakpoints, watchpoints etc. Of course I haven't written 'C' code since 1997... Controllers are a gas though, and once mastered allow you to do so many cool things with very simple circuits and some code. In this case I am looking to build a PWM motor controller for my son's ride-on Gator. From there, the moon. As my son gets older perhaps we can do some robotics stuff together. So is anyone out there doing anything with controllers, want to chat about it? Anyone want to get into it? It is really neat stuff and these chips are cheap and immensely powerful. How about 40 pins, 16 MIPS, 32K program, eerom, ram etc for $13 for the controller? Or 8 pins, 2K program, eerom, ram, etc for $2. A breadboard, some resistors / LEDs (or even LCDs) and you are off and running. Want to build a sun tracker for your solar array? A robot that will follow a line on the floor? An alarm system for your house? A battle bot? Should be fun. I have a forum on my web site we can use if anyone wants to join the fun. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Mon Sep 25 03:04:53 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:04:53 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? References: <000001c6e060$a76eda60$657aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <002001c6e079$4af6f100$1400a8c0@v1000> YES, yes, here! I have been working since a few weeks on this and finished a program which reads from my EIB bus and displays the results on a 2 x 16 LCD. Things like Window in basement is open or such. It was pretty easy to get started. I am using assembly language and am surprised how easy it was. I have still a lot of plans with this and things that I have not found a good answer for, like communication with a PC,... I am using Microchip. I have got the ICD2 (debugger) and PICDEM 2 PLUS demo board, which I am using for programming. I have buildt the circuit hardware with one of these universal boards. have not yet made a pc-board. Right now I am building an Access db, which reads the .asm file and modifies it to insert customized message-texts. Microchip has forums and also a 7/24 support group (free). I am interested in participating in your forum. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "Tech - Database Advisors Inc." ; "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:08 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > Well, I did it; I ordered most of the stuff required to build a controller > project. > > Back in 1997 or so, while I was living in Puebla Mexico, I was tasked with > building a controller based phone debit card vending machine. I designed > it > from the ground up, specing the micro-controller (a zworld z8xxx based > SBC), > using a bill acceptor and a custom built vending hopper to vend the debit > cards. The micro was a ready built board with a ton of i/o pins, rs488, > rs232 etc. It cost $180 qty 1. The language was a custom 'C' dialect > written for ZWorld for use on their boards. In the end, 250 of the > machines > were produced, about 100 actually went into use around Puebla and in the > subway in Mexico DF. Eventually the company went under, I found AccessD > (1997) and I have been in this world ever since. > > It was the most fun I have ever had on a job, and I have been itching to > get > back in to controllers ever since. > > This time around I did the research and selected the Atmel family, > specifically the AVR line > > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/devices.asp?family_id=607 > > These are extremely cheap, extremely powerful u-controllers. I purchased > a > handful of them as well as a programmer / debugger board and a demo board > > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?family_id=607 > AVR+8%2DBit+RISC+&tool_id=3146> > &family_name=AVR+8%2DBit+RISC+&tool_id=3146 > > which can be (re) programmed. > > I briefly considered the PIC family of controllers but they are pretty > archaic and once I discovered the AVR I was sold. > > Life is cool again. Of course it is a learning curve reminiscent of .Net. > I have been out of the controller world for many years and have to learn > everything from scratch, the chips, the IDE, the 'C' compiler, the > programmer / debugger. The tools so far are sooooo cool. There is a free > IDE, assembler, 'C' language etc. The emulator actually allows you to > watch > the program run (I have written my first assembler program, though I don't > have hardware yet), watch the registers, I/O pins etc, do all of the > things > you need to do to program - breakpoints, watchpoints etc. Of course I > haven't written 'C' code since 1997... > > Controllers are a gas though, and once mastered allow you to do so many > cool > things with very simple circuits and some code. In this case I am looking > to build a PWM motor controller for my son's ride-on Gator. From there, > the > moon. As my son gets older perhaps we can do some robotics stuff > together. > > So is anyone out there doing anything with controllers, want to chat about > it? Anyone want to get into it? It is really neat stuff and these chips > are cheap and immensely powerful. How about 40 pins, 16 MIPS, 32K > program, > eerom, ram etc for $13 for the controller? Or 8 pins, 2K program, eerom, > ram, etc for $2. A breadboard, some resistors / LEDs (or even LCDs) and > you are off and running. > > Want to build a sun tracker for your solar array? A robot that will > follow > a line on the floor? An alarm system for your house? A battle bot? > > Should be fun. I have a forum on my web site we can use if anyone wants > to > join the fun. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 22.09.2006 > > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Sep 25 07:51:44 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:51:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <002001c6e079$4af6f100$1400a8c0@v1000> Message-ID: <000e01c6e0a1$5bf22470$657aa8c0@m6805> Lembit, I thought of you when I posted this, knowing that you had been working on controlling your new home. If you are just getting started using the PIC I would highly suggest that you at least consider switching to the Atmel. The prices are about the same but the ATMEL AVR is a completely modern architecture and doesn't have the 2kByte program space issue that the PIC has. Plus it is supposed to be much faster as all instructions execute in one clock cycle, so an 8 MHz device is 8 MIPS. As I mentioned, I started by looking at the PIC but when I found the Atmel AVR I was hooked. You can get devices (though certainly not the hundreds of choices you can find in the PIC) ranging from low end up to 128KBytes program space. http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/param_table.asp?family_id=607&OrderBy=part _no&Direction=ASC Depending on the uC selected, the controllers I am using can have built in UARTs, as well as 1 wire (a misnomer) comms which are often more useful that UART in uCs. These are cool little widgets. The one thing they seem to be missing that you can get in the PIC are D to A converters, though with built-in PWM stuff you can use a PWM output and a filter to build a D to A. Given the prices, http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1000 1&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&categoryId=106010 http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&sto reId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=204089&pa=204089PS (and you can get them even cheaper over on Digikey) I am looking at building functional blocks where little uCs each do one thing and they talk to each other over 1 wire. For my project I need a couple of PWM motor controllers talking to a central machine controller. The motor controller software could be run on the machine controller, or a little 20 pin uC could be placed out on a motor controller PCB with everything required to completely run a motor (Hbridge power MOSFETs circuits and the PWM micro), then it could just receive commands from the central controller - direction, speed and softstart ramp time - as instructions sent over the 1 wire interface. Assembly language is indeed easy, in fact way easier than 'C' to get started in. The biggest problem is that you have to really get into the instruction set and pneumonic for assembler whereas C shields you from that. There is a freeware C compiler that is available for my uC family. http://gcc.gnu.org/ If you stick with the PIC you might see if it is available for that as well. In the Atmel toolset it was a breeze to get set up and integrated into the IDE. I have my first C program running: #include #include void wait(void); int main (void) { // set PORTD for output DDRD = 0xFF; while(1) { for(int i = 1; i <= 128; i = i*2) { PORTD = i; _delay_loop_2(30000); } for(int i = 128; i > 1; i -= i/2) { PORTD = i; _delay_loop_2(30000); } } } Anyway, I am glad to hear you are into this and let's talk. This is going to be a lot of fun. Makes me wich I was retired so I didn't have to do real work. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:05 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? YES, yes, here! I have been working since a few weeks on this and finished a program which reads from my EIB bus and displays the results on a 2 x 16 LCD. Things like Window in basement is open or such. It was pretty easy to get started. I am using assembly language and am surprised how easy it was. I have still a lot of plans with this and things that I have not found a good answer for, like communication with a PC,... I am using Microchip. I have got the ICD2 (debugger) and PICDEM 2 PLUS demo board, which I am using for programming. I have buildt the circuit hardware with one of these universal boards. have not yet made a pc-board. Right now I am building an Access db, which reads the .asm file and modifies it to insert customized message-texts. Microchip has forums and also a 7/24 support group (free). I am interested in participating in your forum. Lembit From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Sep 25 10:58:10 2006 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:58:10 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper In-Reply-To: <000301c6e030$1b176d50$0300a8c0@jt2> References: <000301c6e030$1b176d50$0300a8c0@jt2> Message-ID: <4517FC92.7070309@torchlake.com> Hi Jon, I'm using Spysweeper version 5.0.5. I looked into its Temp folder and found only one file. In the main folder, there are 40 objects - all image files, or dll's, or exe's, no tmp's. Tina Jon Tydda wrote: > Anyone out there use Webroot Spysweeper version 5? > > I've had it installed for a while, and it's pretty good, but I've just > discovered 65000 temporary files in it's folder... they're all 0k in size, > so it's only using 17mb, but still, 65k files is a lot... > > It's taken ten minutes to delete them all, I was just wondering if that was > normal behaviour for it... > > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From john at winhaven.net Mon Sep 25 11:18:35 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:18:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper In-Reply-To: <000301c6e030$1b176d50$0300a8c0@jt2> Message-ID: <08d601c6e0be$40f9ab30$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Jon, Check for an update. IIRC the beta of 5 did this and maybe the first release version but I think they patched it. I like SpySweeper in that it does it job very well but I've found it to be somewhat of a resource hog. It seems to require a very fast CPU and lot of RAM to not be noticed. Running it on the same system with Symantec's NAV or NIS 2006 leaves the end user with little resources for themselves :o) What is your experience? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Anyone out there use Webroot Spysweeper version 5? I've had it installed for a while, and it's pretty good, but I've just discovered 65000 temporary files in it's folder... they're all 0k in size, so it's only using 17mb, but still, 65k files is a lot... From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Mon Sep 25 11:49:37 2006 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:49:37 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <002001c6e079$4af6f100$1400a8c0@v1000> References: <000001c6e060$a76eda60$657aa8c0@m6805> <002001c6e079$4af6f100$1400a8c0@v1000> Message-ID: <451808A1.8030203@shaw.ca> Here is another starter method to do it with VB.Net, However it makes use of PBASIC (Parallax Basic) language for the controller. Turn Your PC Into a Motion Sensing Security Device with .NET http://www.devx.com/dotnet/Article/32278 I got into controllers by mistake once, writing code in PL/M for remote weather stations for DOT in Canada, It was used with Intel 8036 8K chips. Somebody misread my resume and assumed PL/M was a subset of IBM PL1. Luckily I had some assembler experience. Lembit Soobik wrote: >YES, yes, here! > >I have been working since a few weeks on this and finished a program which >reads from my EIB bus and displays the results on a 2 x 16 LCD. Things like >Window in basement is open or such. >It was pretty easy to get started. >I am using assembly language and am surprised how easy it was. >I have still a lot of plans with this and things that I have not found a >good answer for, like communication with a PC,... > >I am using Microchip. I have got the ICD2 (debugger) and PICDEM 2 PLUS demo >board, which I am using for programming. >I have buildt the circuit hardware with one of these universal boards. have >not yet made a pc-board. > >Right now I am building an Access db, which reads the .asm file and modifies >it to insert customized message-texts. > >Microchip has forums and also a 7/24 support group (free). > >I am interested in participating in your forum. > >Lembit > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "JWColby" >To: "Tech - Database Advisors Inc." ; >"'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:08 AM >Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > > > > >>Well, I did it; I ordered most of the stuff required to build a controller >>project. >> >>Back in 1997 or so, while I was living in Puebla Mexico, I was tasked with >>building a controller based phone debit card vending machine. I designed >>it >>from the ground up, specing the micro-controller (a zworld z8xxx based >>SBC), >>using a bill acceptor and a custom built vending hopper to vend the debit >>cards. The micro was a ready built board with a ton of i/o pins, rs488, >>rs232 etc. It cost $180 qty 1. The language was a custom 'C' dialect >>written for ZWorld for use on their boards. In the end, 250 of the >>machines >>were produced, about 100 actually went into use around Puebla and in the >>subway in Mexico DF. Eventually the company went under, I found AccessD >>(1997) and I have been in this world ever since. >> >>It was the most fun I have ever had on a job, and I have been itching to >>get >>back in to controllers ever since. >> >>This time around I did the research and selected the Atmel family, >>specifically the AVR line >> >>http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/devices.asp?family_id=607 >> >>These are extremely cheap, extremely powerful u-controllers. I purchased >>a >>handful of them as well as a programmer / debugger board and a demo board >> >>http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?family_id=607 >>>AVR+8%2DBit+RISC+&tool_id=3146> >>&family_name=AVR+8%2DBit+RISC+&tool_id=3146 >> >>which can be (re) programmed. >> >>I briefly considered the PIC family of controllers but they are pretty >>archaic and once I discovered the AVR I was sold. >> >>Life is cool again. Of course it is a learning curve reminiscent of .Net. >>I have been out of the controller world for many years and have to learn >>everything from scratch, the chips, the IDE, the 'C' compiler, the >>programmer / debugger. The tools so far are sooooo cool. There is a free >>IDE, assembler, 'C' language etc. The emulator actually allows you to >>watch >>the program run (I have written my first assembler program, though I don't >>have hardware yet), watch the registers, I/O pins etc, do all of the >>things >>you need to do to program - breakpoints, watchpoints etc. Of course I >>haven't written 'C' code since 1997... >> >>Controllers are a gas though, and once mastered allow you to do so many >>cool >>things with very simple circuits and some code. In this case I am looking >>to build a PWM motor controller for my son's ride-on Gator. From there, >>the >>moon. As my son gets older perhaps we can do some robotics stuff >>together. >> >>So is anyone out there doing anything with controllers, want to chat about >>it? Anyone want to get into it? It is really neat stuff and these chips >>are cheap and immensely powerful. How about 40 pins, 16 MIPS, 32K >>program, >>eerom, ram etc for $13 for the controller? Or 8 pins, 2K program, eerom, >>ram, etc for $2. A breadboard, some resistors / LEDs (or even LCDs) and >>you are off and running. >> >>Want to build a sun tracker for your solar array? A robot that will >>follow >>a line on the floor? An alarm system for your house? A battle bot? >> >>Should be fun. I have a forum on my web site we can use if anyone wants >>to >>join the fun. >> >>John W. Colby >>Colby Consulting >>www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 22.09.2006 >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Sep 25 14:09:41 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:09:41 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper In-Reply-To: <4517FC92.7070309@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <002601c6e0d6$27bc8fd0$0300a8c0@jt2> I've got 5.0.7, guess that's what I get for upgrading when they tell me to :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: 25 September 2006 16:58 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper Hi Jon, I'm using Spysweeper version 5.0.5. I looked into its Temp folder and found only one file. In the main folder, there are 40 objects - all image files, or dll's, or exe's, no tmp's. Tina Jon Tydda wrote: > Anyone out there use Webroot Spysweeper version 5? > > I've had it installed for a while, and it's pretty good, but I've just > discovered 65000 temporary files in it's folder... they're all 0k in > size, so it's only using 17mb, but still, 65k files is a lot... > > It's taken ten minutes to delete them all, I was just wondering if > that was normal behaviour for it... > > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Sep 25 14:11:31 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:11:31 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper In-Reply-To: <08d601c6e0be$40f9ab30$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <002701c6e0d6$6956d7c0$0300a8c0@jt2> Yeah, I tend to run all my scans on a Sunday night - Spybot, Ad-Aware, SpySweeper and the Zonealarm AS, and they do hog all my cpu time. I run Spybot and Adaware first, then the other two when they're done. Can't do any more than that or it all goes horribly wrong. For reference, I'm using a 14 month old P4 3.2 HT with 2gb RAM... Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: 25 September 2006 17:19 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper Jon, Check for an update. IIRC the beta of 5 did this and maybe the first release version but I think they patched it. I like SpySweeper in that it does it job very well but I've found it to be somewhat of a resource hog. It seems to require a very fast CPU and lot of RAM to not be noticed. Running it on the same system with Symantec's NAV or NIS 2006 leaves the end user with little resources for themselves :o) What is your experience? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Anyone out there use Webroot Spysweeper version 5? I've had it installed for a while, and it's pretty good, but I've just discovered 65000 temporary files in it's folder... they're all 0k in size, so it's only using 17mb, but still, 65k files is a lot... _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From john at winhaven.net Mon Sep 25 14:16:21 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:16:21 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper In-Reply-To: <002601c6e0d6$27bc8fd0$0300a8c0@jt2> Message-ID: <004501c6e0d7$168e41d0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> They have pretty good support so give them a holler! From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Sep 25 14:27:15 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:27:15 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper In-Reply-To: <004501c6e0d7$168e41d0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <002d01c6e0d8$9be06510$0300a8c0@jt2> Good call... One support ticket opened :-) I'll post any results I get here for you all. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: 25 September 2006 20:16 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper They have pretty good support so give them a holler! _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Sep 25 16:16:00 2006 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:16:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Now It's Firefox In-Reply-To: <004601c6c797$434fcc10$657aa8c0@m6805> References: <004601c6c797$434fcc10$657aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <45184710.2070001@torchlake.com> Well, JC, you certainly have a good birthday - it's my husband Larry's birthday as well (and our wedding anniversary - he chose the date so he'd have no trouble remembering it). He's older than you, but you'll get there someday. Tina JWColby wrote: >> ... you get a reminder that it's so and so's birthday coming up on August >> > 30th. Right Donna? > > Mine is Nov 5th. Put it in your Palm. > > I'll be 52 this year, and there will be a world wide celebration as all my > friends and acquaintances on AccessD stop to drink a pint. Well... Actually > most of them would stop to drink a pint anyway... ;-) But now they have an > official reason for doing so on that day. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:12 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Now It's Firefox > > I don't use the Palm for e-mail. My current one does do WIFI and bluetooth > communications but I haven't actually tried it at either. > For me it's being able to take my calendar with me to meetings and my > contacts with me when I want to. Like a traveling rolodex. And it has the > very same data as is on the computer files. And if I change it on the > compute rit's cahnged on the palm and if I change it on the Palm it's > changed on the computer. With my previous two Palm devices I had keyboards > that i could connect and it was essentially a very small laptop that could > be used for notetaking although to tell the truth I really hardly ever used > that feature. I carry my phone with me most of the time but I seldom get any > calls on it as I don't really give out the number too much. It's a small one > so it fits in my pocket. I also have a seperate camera in the same pocket. > Don't like the cameras in the phones so I passed on that when I got my last > phone. I like a REAL camera. The one I carry with me at all times is the > size of an Altoids box. So I'm used to having things in my pocket. In my > other pocket I have my keys, a foldup pair of reading glasses and a swiss > army knife. > I like having pockets and I USE my pockets. > > I used to use a Daytimer paper calendar. And I carried it with me > everywhere. I used a small sized one and it was a big change for me to go > electronic. The big kicker for me was the CONTACTS part of the Daytimer. > Once a year or so I had to recopy all the contacts into a new paper book and > that drove me crazy. I had crossed out numbers and names and smudged ink and > at one point I vowed I would never go through recopying that address book > again. And that was what got me to look at my first Palm device. And Using > the Outlook Calendar has gotten me quite a lot of acclaim for remembering > peoples birthdays and anniversaries because you set them up once and tell it > it recurs every year and WALLA, you get a reminder that it's so and so's > birthday coming up on August 30th. Right Donna? > > And my Palm also allows me to sync to multiple computers and that propegates > all that stuff into the Outlook that lives on those other computers. Like my > office computer and my home computer and my laptop computer. The Palm is the > bridge between all those systems. > > And it plays a nice game of solitare if I am waiting for someone in a > meeting room. Or Yahtzee. Or Monopoly. Or Chess. > > And it stays in my backpack when I don't need it. Just fine. As does my > phone if I don't want it with me - pretty seldom as I view the cell phone as > something I CALL OUT ON and not something that other people call me on. > > But whatever works for you works for you. What I have works for me. > > GK > > On 8/24/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote: > >> Oh, BTW I don't use a Palm. God willing I never will. I don't like >> to carry my cell phone and when I don't 'accidentally' forget to take >> it with me, about half the time I 'forget' to turn it on. >> >> I hope to never have a blackberry. I don't WANT to get my email >> anywhere I go. I don't care about sports scores. I don't care about >> the stock market from hour to hour. >> >> Guess I'm just a low tech guy. >> >> >> Rocky >> >> Gary Kjos wrote: >> >>> Ah the joys of not using Microsoft software. Curious as to why you >>> would use OE instead of regular Outlook? You have Office licenses >>> right? I use the calendar, the task lists, the contacts of course - >>> even for non-email contacts, the Notes have logs of all my golf >>> scores on them, in addition to the email functionality..... and it >>> all syncronizes with my Palm device so I can carry all that with me >>> wherever I go if I want to. >>> >>> GK >>> >>> On 8/24/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software >>> > wrote: > >>>> First it was Thunderbird - can't send emails with attachments - >>>> times out. Now it's Firefox - when I print something it comes out >>>> in a real tiny font. Printed some boarding passes and they >>>> wouldn't scan at the gate because the bar code was too small. >>>> >>>> Hate to go back to OE and IE but that might be what has to happen. >>>> >>>> Anybody know why Firefox might print something real small? >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> Rocky >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rocky Smolin >>>> Beach Access Software >>>> 858-259-4334 >>>> www.e-z-mrp.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-OT mailing list >>>> dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Rocky Smolin >> Beach Access Software >> 858-259-4334 >> www.e-z-mrp.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From john at winhaven.net Mon Sep 25 16:36:29 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:36:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpySweeper In-Reply-To: <002701c6e0d6$6956d7c0$0300a8c0@jt2> Message-ID: <009101c6e0ea$aa057010$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I was actually referring to the real time scanner part of SpySweeper. I also run CounterSpy and PestPatrol and have been testing Ewido for a couple of months now. (All on separate machines - of course!) Although they all have moments of resource hoggishness (?) SpySweeper seems to rule the mud hole on that aspect. Just check the process list and see how much RAM/CPU it is using on a regular basis. Typically on my P4 (Pest Patrol) & P3 (CounterSpy) the RAM use is about 25MBs (for the real time spyware component and the overall system's CPU usage is about 3% when not running any end user or developer apps. I don't have a SpySweeper PC running right now but as I recall it was quite a bit higher on average. Sometimes when things are running a bit slow I check this and the usage is way up. It usually goes down after a couple of minutes though so its either scanning something or having a hissy fit ;o) BTW so far Ewido seems to be fairly easy on the system resources, but I'm not completely finished with my eval on it. I'm also testing CounterSpy v2.0 Beta right now. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Yeah, I tend to run all my scans on a Sunday night - Spybot, Ad-Aware, SpySweeper and the Zonealarm AS, and they do hog all my cpu time. I run Spybot and Adaware first, then the other two when they're done. Can't do any more than that or it all goes horribly wrong. For reference, I'm using a 14 month old P4 3.2 HT with 2gb RAM... From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Tue Sep 26 06:47:08 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:47:08 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? References: <000e01c6e0a1$5bf22470$657aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <030c01c6e161$7f482670$1800a8c0@s1800> Thanks for the info, JC, for now I have completed the program ( I will add some features later). I will look into the ATMEL controllers also, and maybe switch for the next project. I really wanted to add a feature to connect the PIC to the PC for some up/download of data, but I found that it will be pretty complicated to write the software on the PC which can talk to the USB port, and there are software packages which allow to develop USB drivers, but they want 3500 to 4500 bucks for it, so that is no good. maybe RS232. will have to evaluate that way. and then the PC board needs to be designed. have to find out which SW to use. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > Lembit, > > I thought of you when I posted this, knowing that you had been working on > controlling your new home. > > If you are just getting started using the PIC I would highly suggest that > you at least consider switching to the Atmel. The prices are about the > same > but the ATMEL AVR is a completely modern architecture and doesn't have the > 2kByte program space issue that the PIC has. Plus it is supposed to be > much > faster as all instructions execute in one clock cycle, so an 8 MHz device > is > 8 MIPS. As I mentioned, I started by looking at the PIC but when I found > the Atmel AVR I was hooked. > > You can get devices (though certainly not the hundreds of choices you can > find in the PIC) ranging from low end up to 128KBytes program space. > > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/param_table.asp?family_id=607&OrderBy=part > _no&Direction=ASC > > Depending on the uC selected, the controllers I am using can have built in > UARTs, as well as 1 wire (a misnomer) comms which are often more useful > that > UART in uCs. These are cool little widgets. The one thing they seem to > be > missing that you can get in the PIC are D to A converters, though with > built-in PWM stuff you can use a PWM output and a filter to build a D to > A. > > Given the prices, > > http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1000 > 1&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&categoryId=106010 > http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&sto > reId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=204089&pa=204089PS > > (and you can get them even cheaper over on Digikey) I am looking at > building > functional blocks where little uCs each do one thing and they talk to each > other over 1 wire. For my project I need a couple of PWM motor > controllers > talking to a central machine controller. The motor controller software > could be run on the machine controller, or a little 20 pin uC could be > placed out on a motor controller PCB with everything required to > completely > run a motor (Hbridge power MOSFETs circuits and the PWM micro), then it > could just receive commands from the central controller - direction, speed > and softstart ramp time - as instructions sent over the 1 wire interface. > > Assembly language is indeed easy, in fact way easier than 'C' to get > started > in. The biggest problem is that you have to really get into the > instruction > set and pneumonic for assembler whereas C shields you from that. > > There is a freeware C compiler that is available for my uC family. > > http://gcc.gnu.org/ > > If you stick with the PIC you might see if it is available for that as > well. > In the Atmel toolset it was a breeze to get set up and integrated into the > IDE. > > I have my first C program running: > > #include > #include > void wait(void); > int main (void) > { > // set PORTD for output > DDRD = 0xFF; > while(1) > { > for(int i = 1; i <= 128; i = i*2) > { > PORTD = i; > _delay_loop_2(30000); > } > for(int i = 128; i > 1; i -= i/2) > { > PORTD = i; > _delay_loop_2(30000); > } > } > } > > Anyway, I am glad to hear you are into this and let's talk. This is going > to be a lot of fun. Makes me wich I was retired so I didn't have to do > real > work. ;-) > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:05 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > > YES, yes, here! > > I have been working since a few weeks on this and finished a program which > reads from my EIB bus and displays the results on a 2 x 16 LCD. Things > like > Window in basement is open or such. > It was pretty easy to get started. > I am using assembly language and am surprised how easy it was. > I have still a lot of plans with this and things that I have not found a > good answer for, like communication with a PC,... > > I am using Microchip. I have got the ICD2 (debugger) and PICDEM 2 PLUS > demo > board, which I am using for programming. > I have buildt the circuit hardware with one of these universal boards. > have > not yet made a pc-board. > > Right now I am building an Access db, which reads the .asm file and > modifies > it to insert customized message-texts. > > Microchip has forums and also a 7/24 support group (free). > > I am interested in participating in your forum. > > Lembit > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Sep 26 07:07:38 2006 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:07:38 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <030c01c6e161$7f482670$1800a8c0@s1800> References: <000e01c6e0a1$5bf22470$657aa8c0@m6805>, <030c01c6e161$7f482670$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: <4519A4AA.8233.2A44D4D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 26 Sep 2006 at 13:47, Lembit Soobik wrote: > I really wanted to add a feature to connect the PIC to the PC for some > up/download of data, but I found that it will be pretty complicated to write > the software on the PC which can talk to the USB port, and there are > software packages which allow to develop USB drivers, but they want 3500 to > 4500 bucks for it, so that is no good. maybe RS232. will have to evaluate > that way. How about using a USB-Serial adapter. First hit on google is http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Serial.html Anything from $13 upwards. -- Stuart From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Sep 26 07:35:52 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:35:52 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <030c01c6e161$7f482670$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: <003b01c6e168$4eba2bf0$657aa8c0@m6805> Lembit, >and then the PC board needs to be designed. have to find out which SW to use. A few cad packages discussed briefly http://www.ladyada.net/resources/pcbdesign.html I am looking at EagleCad since it seems to be widely used and lots of people know about it. http://www.cadsoft.de/ They have a FREE package that is fully functional but will only allow two trace layers and a smallish PCB size, still plenty big for small projects - 100x80 mm. And if you decide to pay, the next step up is fairly reasonable though a bit steep at $600 for the entire schematic / router. And... There is a "non-profit" license (fits you I think) for $125 which upgrades the free to the standard version (4 signal layers and 160x100mm size). I think I am going to do that if I like the free version. And to top it all off, they do everything in English and GERMAN! What more can you ask? ;-) As for the upload/download via USB, I think the Atmel stuff has cheap boards already designed (for sale) and software in place to allow this, another reason to do the next version with those processors. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 7:47 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? Thanks for the info, JC, for now I have completed the program ( I will add some features later). I will look into the ATMEL controllers also, and maybe switch for the next project. I really wanted to add a feature to connect the PIC to the PC for some up/download of data, but I found that it will be pretty complicated to write the software on the PC which can talk to the USB port, and there are software packages which allow to develop USB drivers, but they want 3500 to 4500 bucks for it, so that is no good. maybe RS232. will have to evaluate that way. and then the PC board needs to be designed. have to find out which SW to use. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > Lembit, > > I thought of you when I posted this, knowing that you had been working on > controlling your new home. > > If you are just getting started using the PIC I would highly suggest that > you at least consider switching to the Atmel. The prices are about the > same > but the ATMEL AVR is a completely modern architecture and doesn't have the > 2kByte program space issue that the PIC has. Plus it is supposed to be > much > faster as all instructions execute in one clock cycle, so an 8 MHz device > is > 8 MIPS. As I mentioned, I started by looking at the PIC but when I found > the Atmel AVR I was hooked. > > You can get devices (though certainly not the hundreds of choices you can > find in the PIC) ranging from low end up to 128KBytes program space. > > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/param_table.asp?family_id=607&OrderBy=part > _no&Direction=ASC > > Depending on the uC selected, the controllers I am using can have built in > UARTs, as well as 1 wire (a misnomer) comms which are often more useful > that > UART in uCs. These are cool little widgets. The one thing they seem to > be > missing that you can get in the PIC are D to A converters, though with > built-in PWM stuff you can use a PWM output and a filter to build a D to > A. > > Given the prices, > > http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1000 > 1&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&categoryId=106010 > http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&sto > reId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=204089&pa=204089PS > > (and you can get them even cheaper over on Digikey) I am looking at > building > functional blocks where little uCs each do one thing and they talk to each > other over 1 wire. For my project I need a couple of PWM motor > controllers > talking to a central machine controller. The motor controller software > could be run on the machine controller, or a little 20 pin uC could be > placed out on a motor controller PCB with everything required to > completely > run a motor (Hbridge power MOSFETs circuits and the PWM micro), then it > could just receive commands from the central controller - direction, speed > and softstart ramp time - as instructions sent over the 1 wire interface. > > Assembly language is indeed easy, in fact way easier than 'C' to get > started > in. The biggest problem is that you have to really get into the > instruction > set and pneumonic for assembler whereas C shields you from that. > > There is a freeware C compiler that is available for my uC family. > > http://gcc.gnu.org/ > > If you stick with the PIC you might see if it is available for that as > well. > In the Atmel toolset it was a breeze to get set up and integrated into the > IDE. > > I have my first C program running: > > #include > #include > void wait(void); > int main (void) > { > // set PORTD for output > DDRD = 0xFF; > while(1) > { > for(int i = 1; i <= 128; i = i*2) > { > PORTD = i; > _delay_loop_2(30000); > } > for(int i = 128; i > 1; i -= i/2) > { > PORTD = i; > _delay_loop_2(30000); > } > } > } > > Anyway, I am glad to hear you are into this and let's talk. This is going > to be a lot of fun. Makes me wich I was retired so I didn't have to do > real > work. ;-) > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:05 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > > YES, yes, here! > > I have been working since a few weeks on this and finished a program which > reads from my EIB bus and displays the results on a 2 x 16 LCD. Things > like > Window in basement is open or such. > It was pretty easy to get started. > I am using assembly language and am surprised how easy it was. > I have still a lot of plans with this and things that I have not found a > good answer for, like communication with a PC,... > > I am using Microchip. I have got the ICD2 (debugger) and PICDEM 2 PLUS > demo > board, which I am using for programming. > I have buildt the circuit hardware with one of these universal boards. > have > not yet made a pc-board. > > Right now I am building an Access db, which reads the .asm file and > modifies > it to insert customized message-texts. > > Microchip has forums and also a 7/24 support group (free). > > I am interested in participating in your forum. > > Lembit > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at appdevgrp.com Tue Sep 26 07:50:55 2006 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:50:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E36E65@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35924@ADGSERVER> I have been wanting for quite some time to build a controller for my telescope so that I can hook up some encoders and have goto capability. But that will have to wait for a time when I have more time. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:05 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? Importance: Low YES, yes, here! I have been working since a few weeks on this and finished a program which reads from my EIB bus and displays the results on a 2 x 16 LCD. Things like Window in basement is open or such. It was pretty easy to get started. I am using assembly language and am surprised how easy it was. I have still a lot of plans with this and things that I have not found a good answer for, like communication with a PC,... I am using Microchip. I have got the ICD2 (debugger) and PICDEM 2 PLUS demo board, which I am using for programming. I have buildt the circuit hardware with one of these universal boards. have not yet made a pc-board. Right now I am building an Access db, which reads the .asm file and modifies it to insert customized message-texts. Microchip has forums and also a 7/24 support group (free). I am interested in participating in your forum. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "Tech - Database Advisors Inc." ; "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:08 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > Well, I did it; I ordered most of the stuff required to build a controller > project. > > Back in 1997 or so, while I was living in Puebla Mexico, I was tasked with > building a controller based phone debit card vending machine. I designed > it > from the ground up, specing the micro-controller (a zworld z8xxx based > SBC), > using a bill acceptor and a custom built vending hopper to vend the debit > cards. The micro was a ready built board with a ton of i/o pins, rs488, > rs232 etc. It cost $180 qty 1. The language was a custom 'C' dialect > written for ZWorld for use on their boards. In the end, 250 of the > machines > were produced, about 100 actually went into use around Puebla and in the > subway in Mexico DF. Eventually the company went under, I found AccessD > (1997) and I have been in this world ever since. > > It was the most fun I have ever had on a job, and I have been itching to > get > back in to controllers ever since. > > This time around I did the research and selected the Atmel family, > specifically the AVR line > > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/devices.asp?family_id=607 > > These are extremely cheap, extremely powerful u-controllers. I purchased > a > handful of them as well as a programmer / debugger board and a demo board > > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?family_id=607 > AVR+8%2DBit+RISC+&tool_id=3146> > &family_name=AVR+8%2DBit+RISC+&tool_id=3146 > > which can be (re) programmed. > > I briefly considered the PIC family of controllers but they are pretty > archaic and once I discovered the AVR I was sold. > > Life is cool again. Of course it is a learning curve reminiscent of .Net. > I have been out of the controller world for many years and have to learn > everything from scratch, the chips, the IDE, the 'C' compiler, the > programmer / debugger. The tools so far are sooooo cool. There is a free > IDE, assembler, 'C' language etc. The emulator actually allows you to > watch > the program run (I have written my first assembler program, though I don't > have hardware yet), watch the registers, I/O pins etc, do all of the > things > you need to do to program - breakpoints, watchpoints etc. Of course I > haven't written 'C' code since 1997... > > Controllers are a gas though, and once mastered allow you to do so many > cool > things with very simple circuits and some code. In this case I am looking > to build a PWM motor controller for my son's ride-on Gator. From there, > the > moon. As my son gets older perhaps we can do some robotics stuff > together. > > So is anyone out there doing anything with controllers, want to chat about > it? Anyone want to get into it? It is really neat stuff and these chips > are cheap and immensely powerful. How about 40 pins, 16 MIPS, 32K > program, > eerom, ram etc for $13 for the controller? Or 8 pins, 2K program, eerom, > ram, etc for $2. A breadboard, some resistors / LEDs (or even LCDs) and > you are off and running. > > Want to build a sun tracker for your solar array? A robot that will > follow > a line on the floor? An alarm system for your house? A battle bot? > > Should be fun. I have a forum on my web site we can use if anyone wants > to > join the fun. > > John W. 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(VPS 0639-1, 09/25/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 9/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 9/25/2006 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Sep 26 08:27:57 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:27:57 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35924@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <003f01c6e16f$96e64290$657aa8c0@m6805> That may be a case of "better to buy it". It is probably quite easy to control the motors, but the professional controllers for telescopes automatically sense the position of the telescope using GPS, do tracking to account for the movement of the earth while viewing etc, plus they have a database of all the objects. Of course if your manufacturer doesn't offer one then it might be up to you. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: OT: Is anyone into controllers? I have been wanting for quite some time to build a controller for my telescope so that I can hook up some encoders and have goto capability. But that will have to wait for a time when I have more time. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:05 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? Importance: Low YES, yes, here! I have been working since a few weeks on this and finished a program which reads from my EIB bus and displays the results on a 2 x 16 LCD. Things like Window in basement is open or such. It was pretty easy to get started. I am using assembly language and am surprised how easy it was. I have still a lot of plans with this and things that I have not found a good answer for, like communication with a PC,... I am using Microchip. I have got the ICD2 (debugger) and PICDEM 2 PLUS demo board, which I am using for programming. I have buildt the circuit hardware with one of these universal boards. have not yet made a pc-board. Right now I am building an Access db, which reads the .asm file and modifies it to insert customized message-texts. Microchip has forums and also a 7/24 support group (free). I am interested in participating in your forum. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "Tech - Database Advisors Inc." ; "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:08 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > Well, I did it; I ordered most of the stuff required to build a > controller project. > > Back in 1997 or so, while I was living in Puebla Mexico, I was tasked > with building a controller based phone debit card vending machine. I > designed it from the ground up, specing the micro-controller (a zworld > z8xxx based SBC), using a bill acceptor and a custom built vending > hopper to vend the debit cards. The micro was a ready built board > with a ton of i/o pins, rs488, > rs232 etc. It cost $180 qty 1. The language was a custom 'C' dialect > written for ZWorld for use on their boards. In the end, 250 of the > machines were produced, about 100 actually went into use around Puebla > and in the subway in Mexico DF. Eventually the company went under, I > found AccessD > (1997) and I have been in this world ever since. > > It was the most fun I have ever had on a job, and I have been itching > to get back in to controllers ever since. > > This time around I did the research and selected the Atmel family, > specifically the AVR line > > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/devices.asp?family_id=607 > > These are extremely cheap, extremely powerful u-controllers. I > purchased a handful of them as well as a programmer / debugger board > and a demo board > > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?family_id=607 > AVR+8%2DBit+RISC+&tool_id=3146> > &family_name=AVR+8%2DBit+RISC+&tool_id=3146 > > which can be (re) programmed. > > I briefly considered the PIC family of controllers but they are pretty > archaic and once I discovered the AVR I was sold. > > Life is cool again. Of course it is a learning curve reminiscent of .Net. > I have been out of the controller world for many years and have to > learn everything from scratch, the chips, the IDE, the 'C' compiler, > the programmer / debugger. The tools so far are sooooo cool. There > is a free IDE, assembler, 'C' language etc. The emulator actually > allows you to watch the program run (I have written my first assembler > program, though I don't have hardware yet), watch the registers, I/O > pins etc, do all of the things you need to do to program - > breakpoints, watchpoints etc. Of course I haven't written 'C' code > since 1997... > > Controllers are a gas though, and once mastered allow you to do so > many cool things with very simple circuits and some code. In this > case I am looking to build a PWM motor controller for my son's ride-on > Gator. From there, the moon. As my son gets older perhaps we can do > some robotics stuff together. > > So is anyone out there doing anything with controllers, want to chat > about it? Anyone want to get into it? It is really neat stuff and > these chips are cheap and immensely powerful. How about 40 pins, 16 > MIPS, 32K program, eerom, ram etc for $13 for the controller? Or 8 > pins, 2K program, eerom, ram, etc for $2. A breadboard, some > resistors / LEDs (or even LCDs) and you are off and running. > > Want to build a sun tracker for your solar array? A robot that will > follow a line on the floor? An alarm system for your house? A battle > bot? > > Should be fun. I have a forum on my web site we can use if anyone > wants to join the fun. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Tue Sep 26 08:41:17 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:41:17 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? References: <000e01c6e0a1$5bf22470$657aa8c0@m6805>, <030c01c6e161$7f482670$1800a8c0@s1800> <4519A4AA.8233.2A44D4D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <003001c6e171$7205e1e0$1800a8c0@s1800> thank you , Stuart, the microprocessor side is not that difficult. The problem is, how to write/read the USB port from the PC side without needing to develop a driver or such. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > On 26 Sep 2006 at 13:47, Lembit Soobik wrote: > >> I really wanted to add a feature to connect the PIC to the PC for some >> up/download of data, but I found that it will be pretty complicated to >> write >> the software on the PC which can talk to the USB port, and there are >> software packages which allow to develop USB drivers, but they want 3500 >> to >> 4500 bucks for it, so that is no good. maybe RS232. will have to evaluate >> that way. > > How about using a USB-Serial adapter. > First hit on google is http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Serial.html > Anything from $13 upwards. > > > > -- > Stuart > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Tue Sep 26 08:59:06 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:59:06 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? References: <003b01c6e168$4eba2bf0$657aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <003501c6e173$ee9293f0$1800a8c0@s1800> you may want to check the Olimex site. They have quite a few free CAD packages listed. What do you use for simulation? I have got TINA, which let me do quite a bit, but I have not got all the spice models yet. TINA includes also a PCB package. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > Lembit, > >>and then the PC board needs to be designed. have to find out which SW to > use. > > A few cad packages discussed briefly > http://www.ladyada.net/resources/pcbdesign.html > > I am looking at EagleCad since it seems to be widely used and lots of > people > know about it. > > http://www.cadsoft.de/ > > They have a FREE package that is fully functional but will only allow two > trace layers and a smallish PCB size, still plenty big for small > projects - > 100x80 mm. And if you decide to pay, the next step up is fairly > reasonable > though a bit steep at $600 for the entire schematic / router. And... > There > is a "non-profit" license (fits you I think) for $125 which upgrades the > free to the standard version (4 signal layers and 160x100mm size). I > think > I am going to do that if I like the free version. > > And to top it all off, they do everything in English and GERMAN! What > more > can you ask? ;-) > > As for the upload/download via USB, I think the Atmel stuff has cheap > boards > already designed (for sale) and software in place to allow this, another > reason to do the next version with those processors. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 7:47 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > > Thanks for the info, JC, > for now I have completed the program ( I will add some features later). > I will look into the ATMEL controllers also, and maybe switch for the next > project. > > I really wanted to add a feature to connect the PIC to the PC for some > up/download of data, but I found that it will be pretty complicated to > write > the software on the PC which can talk to the USB port, and there are > software packages which allow to develop USB drivers, but they want 3500 > to > 4500 bucks for it, so that is no good. > maybe RS232. will have to evaluate that way. > > and then the PC board needs to be designed. have to find out which SW to > use. > > Lembit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JWColby" > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > > >> Lembit, >> >> I thought of you when I posted this, knowing that you had been working on >> controlling your new home. >> >> If you are just getting started using the PIC I would highly suggest that >> you at least consider switching to the Atmel. The prices are about the >> same >> but the ATMEL AVR is a completely modern architecture and doesn't have >> the >> 2kByte program space issue that the PIC has. Plus it is supposed to be >> much >> faster as all instructions execute in one clock cycle, so an 8 MHz device >> is >> 8 MIPS. As I mentioned, I started by looking at the PIC but when I found >> the Atmel AVR I was hooked. >> >> You can get devices (though certainly not the hundreds of choices you can >> find in the PIC) ranging from low end up to 128KBytes program space. >> >> > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/param_table.asp?family_id=607&OrderBy=part >> _no&Direction=ASC >> >> Depending on the uC selected, the controllers I am using can have built >> in >> UARTs, as well as 1 wire (a misnomer) comms which are often more useful >> that >> UART in uCs. These are cool little widgets. The one thing they seem to >> be >> missing that you can get in the PIC are D to A converters, though with >> built-in PWM stuff you can use a PWM output and a filter to build a D to >> A. >> >> Given the prices, >> >> > http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1000 >> 1&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&categoryId=106010 >> > http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&sto >> reId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=204089&pa=204089PS >> >> (and you can get them even cheaper over on Digikey) I am looking at >> building >> functional blocks where little uCs each do one thing and they talk to >> each >> other over 1 wire. For my project I need a couple of PWM motor >> controllers >> talking to a central machine controller. The motor controller software >> could be run on the machine controller, or a little 20 pin uC could be >> placed out on a motor controller PCB with everything required to >> completely >> run a motor (Hbridge power MOSFETs circuits and the PWM micro), then it >> could just receive commands from the central controller - direction, >> speed >> and softstart ramp time - as instructions sent over the 1 wire interface. >> >> Assembly language is indeed easy, in fact way easier than 'C' to get >> started >> in. The biggest problem is that you have to really get into the >> instruction >> set and pneumonic for assembler whereas C shields you from that. >> >> There is a freeware C compiler that is available for my uC family. >> >> http://gcc.gnu.org/ >> >> If you stick with the PIC you might see if it is available for that as >> well. >> In the Atmel toolset it was a breeze to get set up and integrated into >> the >> IDE. >> >> I have my first C program running: >> >> #include >> #include >> void wait(void); >> int main (void) >> { >> // set PORTD for output >> DDRD = 0xFF; >> while(1) >> { >> for(int i = 1; i <= 128; i = i*2) >> { >> PORTD = i; >> _delay_loop_2(30000); >> } >> for(int i = 128; i > 1; i -= i/2) >> { >> PORTD = i; >> _delay_loop_2(30000); >> } >> } >> } >> >> Anyway, I am glad to hear you are into this and let's talk. This is >> going >> to be a lot of fun. Makes me wich I was retired so I didn't have to do >> real >> work. ;-) >> >> John W. Colby >> Colby Consulting >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik >> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:05 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? >> >> YES, yes, here! >> >> I have been working since a few weeks on this and finished a program >> which >> reads from my EIB bus and displays the results on a 2 x 16 LCD. Things >> like >> Window in basement is open or such. >> It was pretty easy to get started. >> I am using assembly language and am surprised how easy it was. >> I have still a lot of plans with this and things that I have not found a >> good answer for, like communication with a PC,... >> >> I am using Microchip. I have got the ICD2 (debugger) and PICDEM 2 PLUS >> demo >> board, which I am using for programming. >> I have buildt the circuit hardware with one of these universal boards. >> have >> not yet made a pc-board. >> >> Right now I am building an Access db, which reads the .asm file and >> modifies >> it to insert customized message-texts. >> >> Microchip has forums and also a 7/24 support group (free). >> >> I am interested in participating in your forum. >> >> Lembit >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at appdevgrp.com Tue Sep 26 09:01:51 2006 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:01:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E36FD3@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35928@ADGSERVER> It is a home-built telescope. It is a 10" Dobsonian and is not motorized. I had a friend (who has since moved away) that did this with one of his scopes. Once you did the alignment on 3 stars, the controller kept track of the time and knew where the scope was pointed. The idea is that the controller itself would display the coordinates of where the scope was pointing. This alone can get you anywhere you want to go. But it would also be able to interface to a laptop/pc. There are protocols that could be followed that allow many of the commercial software astronomy programs to be able to interface with the controller and show you on the screen where you are pointed. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:28 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: OT: Is anyone into controllers? Importance: Low That may be a case of "better to buy it". It is probably quite easy to control the motors, but the professional controllers for telescopes automatically sense the position of the telescope using GPS, do tracking to account for the movement of the earth while viewing etc, plus they have a database of all the objects. Of course if your manufacturer doesn't offer one then it might be up to you. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Sep 26 10:12:07 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:12:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <003501c6e173$ee9293f0$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: <004501c6e17e$22e527d0$657aa8c0@m6805> >What do you use for simulation? Of the circuit? I haven't gotten there yet. I downloaded the EagleCad free package but haven't even created a schematic yet. I really just decided to get into this stuff last Friday. Of the Software? The Atmel stuff has an emulator built into the IDE so you can run your software and actually watch the registers, memory etc. I doubt that it will return real-time graphs though. Part of the problem here is that with controllers the physical circuits are generally pretty simple, and the timing generally isn't critical. The software does all of the work. Yea, if you get into things like A-D and D-A then there is the physical response of the analog part as the components change but with much of what a controller will do, the physical circuit timing simply doesn't matter. What difference does it make if a response to a window opening in an alarm system is off my a few microseconds? I am building a little system to turn on/off the (added on) lights on my son's Ride-On Gator toy. It needs to sense power applied to the wheels, then turn on the headlights. When power is removed from the wheels, it delays shutting off the lights for 30 seconds. Hardware simulation pretty much not required. I will be building a motor controller for the wheels. One problem with these Ride-On toys is that 12V is applied all at once to the wheels, and with the sudden start (high torque), after awhile the gears strip inside the gearboxes. This will be a simple controller, which watches the accelerator pedal (currently a simple on/off switch). When turned on, it will use PWM to ramp up the power applied to the motor so that torque is applied over a second or two rather than instantly. Again, is simulation required? Well, in this case I need to be able to watch the software execute. The hardware will be an H-Bridge Mosfet circuit applying power to the wheels. I suppose simulation would be nice there so I could see what happens with component changes - do the mosfets spend much time in the linear region, and if so how do I modify the circuit to turn on the transistors harder (quicker). In the end though, I am a hobbyist, not even an EE so my understanding of that stuff and even how to create and run simulations is rather weak to say the least. Are they available with the EagleCad? I don't know. Googling on EagleCad and Spice returns hits that indicate it might be. Given my budget, even if it doesn't it probably doesn't matter since I probably couldn't afford anything that would have that stuff. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:59 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? you may want to check the Olimex site. They have quite a few free CAD packages listed. What do you use for simulation? I have got TINA, which let me do quite a bit, but I have not got all the spice models yet. TINA includes also a PCB package. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > Lembit, > >>and then the PC board needs to be designed. have to find out which SW to > use. > > A few cad packages discussed briefly > http://www.ladyada.net/resources/pcbdesign.html > > I am looking at EagleCad since it seems to be widely used and lots of > people > know about it. > > http://www.cadsoft.de/ > > They have a FREE package that is fully functional but will only allow two > trace layers and a smallish PCB size, still plenty big for small > projects - > 100x80 mm. And if you decide to pay, the next step up is fairly > reasonable > though a bit steep at $600 for the entire schematic / router. And... > There > is a "non-profit" license (fits you I think) for $125 which upgrades the > free to the standard version (4 signal layers and 160x100mm size). I > think > I am going to do that if I like the free version. > > And to top it all off, they do everything in English and GERMAN! What > more > can you ask? ;-) > > As for the upload/download via USB, I think the Atmel stuff has cheap > boards > already designed (for sale) and software in place to allow this, another > reason to do the next version with those processors. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Tue Sep 26 11:18:58 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:18:58 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed In-Reply-To: <001901c6e16f$56e167b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001901c6e16f$56e167b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: On 9/26/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > Does anyone know why this guy's email to me is getting rejected/know what > this means: > Reason: Rejection greeting returned by server. > Diagnostic code: smtp;550-clmboh-mx-04.mgw.rr.com E Rocky, This last line is the most important line for figuring it out. It looks like a 550 error. It's a permanent failure, so it's not going through, obviously. The first 5 (5xx) indicates it's a permanent failure. The second 5 (x5x) indicates its a Mail Delivery Protocol error. There is a problem between the 2 servers talking. So it looks like there is a problem with the servers talking. Because the sender is in Italy, I would suspect that it's a problem on his end not talking to your mail servers. He should contact his ISP and ask them to look into it from their end. Although looking at it again, the Reason given is "Rejection greeting returned by server." which is from your ISP. It may indicate that they are using some sort of RBL spam filtering and his e-mails are being caught in it. Something to check from your end as well. Bottom line is the servers aren't talking properly. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From bchacc at san.rr.com Tue Sep 26 12:10:28 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:10:28 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008401c6e18e$ab26a500$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Bryan: Thanks for the info. I'm going to send it over to Road Runner and see if they have anything to say. I'll let you know. He's in India, BTW. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:19 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed On 9/26/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > Does anyone know why this guy's email to me is getting rejected/know what > this means: > Reason: Rejection greeting returned by server. > Diagnostic code: smtp;550-clmboh-mx-04.mgw.rr.com E Rocky, This last line is the most important line for figuring it out. It looks like a 550 error. It's a permanent failure, so it's not going through, obviously. The first 5 (5xx) indicates it's a permanent failure. The second 5 (x5x) indicates its a Mail Delivery Protocol error. There is a problem between the 2 servers talking. So it looks like there is a problem with the servers talking. Because the sender is in Italy, I would suspect that it's a problem on his end not talking to your mail servers. He should contact his ISP and ask them to look into it from their end. Although looking at it again, the Reason given is "Rejection greeting returned by server." which is from your ISP. It may indicate that they are using some sort of RBL spam filtering and his e-mails are being caught in it. Something to check from your end as well. Bottom line is the servers aren't talking properly. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 9/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 9/25/2006 From carbonnb at gmail.com Tue Sep 26 12:43:48 2006 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:43:48 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed In-Reply-To: <008401c6e18e$ab26a500$6401a8c0@HAL9005> References: <008401c6e18e$ab26a500$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: On 9/26/06, Beach Access Software wrote: > Thanks for the info. I'm going to send it over to Road Runner and see if > they have anything to say. I'll let you know. He's in India, BTW. I guess that I can't distinguish between t and n -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Sep 26 15:48:43 2006 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:48:43 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <003001c6e171$7205e1e0$1800a8c0@s1800> References: <000e01c6e0a1$5bf22470$657aa8c0@m6805>, <003001c6e171$7205e1e0$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: <451A1ECB.22411.4815A6C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 26 Sep 2006 at 15:41, Lembit Soobik wrote: > thank you , Stuart, > the microprocessor side is not that difficult. > The problem is, how to write/read the USB port from the PC side without > needing to develop a driver or such. You don't need to. The cables generally come with drivers which make them look like standard serial connections. As an example, I run CMap on my laptop on a boat with a Garmin 76 GPS. Th GPS has a standard serial interface, my laptop doesn't have an serial port and the CMap software doesn't know anything about USB ports, it only knows how to interface to a Com1: to Com4:. When I plug my GPS to my laptop usin the adapter cable, the GPS thinks it is talking over a standard RS323 interface and CMap thinks that it is reading/writing on Com2: (my laptop thinks that the built in modem is sitting on Com1:) -- Stuart From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Sep 27 02:25:21 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:25:21 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file Message-ID: Hi all Does anyone (Lembit?) know how to convert those camcorder vr video files to a "normal" editable format? My colleague can find a shareware tool but it will only handle 30 mins and the session in question lasts for hours. /gustav From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Wed Sep 27 03:30:15 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:30:15 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? References: <000e01c6e0a1$5bf22470$657aa8c0@m6805>, <003001c6e171$7205e1e0$1800a8c0@s1800> <451A1ECB.22411.4815A6C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <003e01c6e20f$28a9eed0$1800a8c0@s1800> oh, thats great. Thanks a lot. now I only need to find out how to talk to the serial, but I think there must be some dll or such around somewhere. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > On 26 Sep 2006 at 15:41, Lembit Soobik wrote: > >> thank you , Stuart, >> the microprocessor side is not that difficult. >> The problem is, how to write/read the USB port from the PC side without >> needing to develop a driver or such. > > You don't need to. The cables generally come with drivers which make them > look like standard serial connections. > > As an example, I run CMap on my laptop on a boat with a Garmin 76 GPS. > > Th GPS has a standard serial interface, my laptop doesn't have an serial > port and the CMap software doesn't know anything about USB ports, it only > knows how to interface to a Com1: to Com4:. > > When I plug my GPS to my laptop usin the adapter cable, the GPS thinks it > is talking over a standard RS323 interface and CMap thinks that it is > reading/writing on Com2: (my laptop thinks that the built in modem is > sitting on Com1:) > > > -- > Stuart > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Wed Sep 27 03:35:23 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:35:23 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file References: Message-ID: <004501c6e20f$e06e9c50$1800a8c0@s1800> I dont know the Panasonic vr format, much less how to convert it. Is this a camera that writes on a CD? I use the mini DV tapes and read them into Avid Liquid for editing. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file > Hi all > > Does anyone (Lembit?) know how to convert those camcorder vr video files > to a "normal" editable format? > My colleague can find a shareware tool but it will only handle 30 mins and > the session in question lasts for hours. > > /gustav > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Sep 27 03:55:24 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:55:24 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file Message-ID: Hi Lembit Yes, the camera records the file on a built-in DVD drive. /gustav >>> lembit.dbamail at t-online.de 27-09-2006 10:35:23 >>> I dont know the Panasonic vr format, much less how to convert it. Is this a camera that writes on a CD? I use the mini DV tapes and read them into Avid Liquid for editing. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file > Hi all > > Does anyone (Lembit?) know how to convert those camcorder vr video files > to a "normal" editable format? > My colleague can find a shareware tool but it will only handle 30 mins and > the session in question lasts for hours. > > /gustav From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Wed Sep 27 06:26:20 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:26:20 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file References: Message-ID: <004101c6e227$c1a229f0$1800a8c0@s1800> Well, I dont know, but I have just sent a mail to somebody who could perhaps know. Does Panasonic not provide such converter? or do they offer a proprietary and expensive editing System? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file > Hi Lembit > > Yes, the camera records the file on a built-in DVD drive. > > /gustav > >>>> lembit.dbamail at t-online.de 27-09-2006 10:35:23 >>> > I dont know the Panasonic vr format, much less how to convert it. > Is this a camera that writes on a CD? > I use the mini DV tapes and read them into Avid Liquid for editing. > > Lembit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gustav Brock" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:25 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file > > >> Hi all >> >> Does anyone (Lembit?) know how to convert those camcorder vr video files >> to a "normal" editable format? >> My colleague can find a shareware tool but it will only handle 30 mins >> and >> the session in question lasts for hours. >> >> /gustav > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Sep 27 06:34:05 2006 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:34:05 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <003e01c6e20f$28a9eed0$1800a8c0@s1800> References: <000e01c6e0a1$5bf22470$657aa8c0@m6805>, <003e01c6e20f$28a9eed0$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: <451AEE4D.4302.78C1C1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 27 Sep 2006 at 10:30, Lembit Soobik wrote: > oh, thats great. Thanks a lot. > now I only need to find out how to talk to the serial, > but I think there must be some dll or such around somewhere. In Access, or VB the simplest way is to use the MSComm control. Personally, I use PowerBasic (http://www.powerbasic.com) for this sort of thing. Here's a bit of sample code to show how complicated it is to write something to a serial port : LOCAL strPort AS STRING LOCAL strData AS STRING LOCAL lngFilenum as LONG strPort = "COM1" 'comm port to write to strData = "ATZ" & CHR$(13,10) 'data to write to port lngFileNum = FREEFILE 'get next free handle COMM OPEN portstr AS lngFilenum COMM SET lngFilenum, BAUD = 9600 ' 9600 baud COMM SET lngFilenum, BYTE = 8 ' 8 bits COMM SET lngFilenum, PARITY = %FALSE ' No parity COMM SET lngFilenum, STOP = 0 ' 1 stop bit COMM SET lngFilenum, TXBUFFER = 2048 ' transmit buffer COMM SET lngFilenum, RXBUFFER = 4096 ' receive buffer COMM SEND lngFilenum, strData COMM CLOSE lngFilenum One of the sample apps that come with PB contains all the code you need to read and write to a comm port. -- Stuart From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Sep 27 06:40:33 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:40:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? In-Reply-To: <003e01c6e20f$28a9eed0$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: <000c01c6e229$bec732a0$647aa8c0@m6805> When I was doing a program at the screw company, I used the serial object that comes with VB (not vba). I think it was an OCX IIRC. I placed it on a form and hooked the events up. I could then program the uart (start, stop parity, baud) and then read/write the buffers. The only issue is that the object is part of VB and you have to have some kind of license installed on the machine. It was a while ago and I don't remember the details. I do know I wrapped it in a class however. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:30 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? oh, thats great. Thanks a lot. now I only need to find out how to talk to the serial, but I think there must be some dll or such around somewhere. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > On 26 Sep 2006 at 15:41, Lembit Soobik wrote: > >> thank you , Stuart, >> the microprocessor side is not that difficult. >> The problem is, how to write/read the USB port from the PC side without >> needing to develop a driver or such. > > You don't need to. The cables generally come with drivers which make them > look like standard serial connections. > > As an example, I run CMap on my laptop on a boat with a Garmin 76 GPS. > > Th GPS has a standard serial interface, my laptop doesn't have an serial > port and the CMap software doesn't know anything about USB ports, it only > knows how to interface to a Com1: to Com4:. > > When I plug my GPS to my laptop usin the adapter cable, the GPS thinks it > is talking over a standard RS323 interface and CMap thinks that it is > reading/writing on Com2: (my laptop thinks that the built in modem is > sitting on Com1:) > > > -- > Stuart > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Sep 27 06:56:31 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:56:31 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file Message-ID: Hi Lembit OK, let's see what he can recommend. I don't think any tool is provided with the camera. We've found this tool at a price: http://www.softarch.com/us/products/GreatVideo/GreatVideoWin.html and at InterVideo: Now you can easily modify content on DVD VR format discs. DVD VR discs are commonly used in home recorders or DVRs, but most DVD players can't read them. DVD Copy 5 solves this issue, by supporting copying both +VR and -VR formats to DVD format. VR format discs can be converted to DVD-Video, VCD, SVCD, DivX? or WMV CD for better compatibility and easier sharing. and, still at a price: http://www.mediostream.com/products/index_neodvd.html neoDVD 7 supports all DVD formats: DVD-VIDEO, DVD+VR and DVD-VR. /gustav >>> lembit.dbamail at t-online.de 27-09-2006 13:26:20 >>> Well, I dont know, but I have just sent a mail to somebody who could perhaps know. Does Panasonic not provide such converter? or do they offer a proprietary and expensive editing System? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file > Hi Lembit > > Yes, the camera records the file on a built-in DVD drive. > > /gustav > >>>> lembit.dbamail at t-online.de 27-09-2006 10:35:23 >>> > I dont know the Panasonic vr format, much less how to convert it. > Is this a camera that writes on a CD? > I use the mini DV tapes and read them into Avid Liquid for editing. > > Lembit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gustav Brock" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:25 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file > > >> Hi all >> >> Does anyone (Lembit?) know how to convert those camcorder vr video files >> to a "normal" editable format? >> My colleague can find a shareware tool but it will only handle 30 mins >> and >> the session in question lasts for hours. >> >> /gustav From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Sep 27 07:04:53 2006 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:04:53 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <451AF585.20386.94F2BC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 27 Sep 2006 at 9:25, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Does anyone (Lembit?) know how to convert those camcorder vr video files to > a "normal" editable format? My colleague can find a shareware tool but it > will only handle 30 mins and the session in question lasts for hours. If the camcorder has an S-Video or RCA composite video output, you can get a USB video capture device complete with editing software from about $50 or so. Just google "USB video capture" -- Stuart From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Wed Sep 27 07:32:38 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:32:38 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? References: <000e01c6e0a1$5bf22470$657aa8c0@m6805>, <003e01c6e20f$28a9eed0$1800a8c0@s1800> <451AEE4D.4302.78C1C1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <010a01c6e231$051b54f0$1800a8c0@s1800> wow, thanks a lot, Stuart, I did use Power Basic some years ago, so I will go and install it and use it for this. thanks Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > On 27 Sep 2006 at 10:30, Lembit Soobik wrote: > >> oh, thats great. Thanks a lot. >> now I only need to find out how to talk to the serial, >> but I think there must be some dll or such around somewhere. > > In Access, or VB the simplest way is to use the MSComm control. > > Personally, I use PowerBasic (http://www.powerbasic.com) for this sort of > thing. Here's a bit of sample code to show how complicated it is to write > something to a serial port : > > LOCAL strPort AS STRING > LOCAL strData AS STRING > LOCAL lngFilenum as LONG > > strPort = "COM1" 'comm port to write to > strData = "ATZ" & CHR$(13,10) 'data to write to port > > lngFileNum = FREEFILE 'get next free handle > > COMM OPEN portstr AS lngFilenum > COMM SET lngFilenum, BAUD = 9600 ' 9600 baud > COMM SET lngFilenum, BYTE = 8 ' 8 bits > COMM SET lngFilenum, PARITY = %FALSE ' No parity > COMM SET lngFilenum, STOP = 0 ' 1 stop bit > COMM SET lngFilenum, TXBUFFER = 2048 ' transmit buffer > COMM SET lngFilenum, RXBUFFER = 4096 ' receive buffer > COMM SEND lngFilenum, strData > COMM CLOSE lngFilenum > > One of the sample apps that come with PB contains all the code you need to > read and write to a comm port. > > > -- > Stuart > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Wed Sep 27 07:33:34 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:33:34 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? References: <000c01c6e229$bec732a0$647aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <010f01c6e231$26409780$1800a8c0@s1800> thanks, John Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > When I was doing a program at the screw company, I used the serial object > that comes with VB (not vba). I think it was an OCX IIRC. I placed it on > a > form and hooked the events up. I could then program the uart (start, stop > parity, baud) and then read/write the buffers. The only issue is that the > object is part of VB and you have to have some kind of license installed > on > the machine. It was a while ago and I don't remember the details. I do > know I wrapped it in a class however. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:30 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > > oh, thats great. Thanks a lot. > now I only need to find out how to talk to the serial, but I think there > must be some dll or such around somewhere. > > Lembit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart McLachlan" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Is anyone into controllers? > > >> On 26 Sep 2006 at 15:41, Lembit Soobik wrote: >> >>> thank you , Stuart, >>> the microprocessor side is not that difficult. >>> The problem is, how to write/read the USB port from the PC side without >>> needing to develop a driver or such. >> >> You don't need to. The cables generally come with drivers which make them >> look like standard serial connections. >> >> As an example, I run CMap on my laptop on a boat with a Garmin 76 GPS. >> >> Th GPS has a standard serial interface, my laptop doesn't have an serial >> port and the CMap software doesn't know anything about USB ports, it only >> knows how to interface to a Com1: to Com4:. >> >> When I plug my GPS to my laptop usin the adapter cable, the GPS thinks it >> is talking over a standard RS323 interface and CMap thinks that it is >> reading/writing on Com2: (my laptop thinks that the built in modem is >> sitting on Com1:) >> >> >> -- >> Stuart >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Sep 27 13:33:38 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:33:38 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls In-Reply-To: <451AEE4D.4302.78C1C1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <002f01c6e263$73ad8870$647aa8c0@m6805> Does anyone know of an inexpensive foot switch or better an analog (potentiometer) foot pedal? I can find them as part of game controllers but I really want just the pedal part. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Wed Sep 27 14:21:34 2006 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:21:34 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file In-Reply-To: <451AF585.20386.94F2BC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <009501c6e26a$259c0330$0300a8c0@jt2> I've got one of those, dead easy to use too. Plug in the SCART socket of your VCR or use the AV cables, and straight into a USB port. Really couldn't be easier. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: 27 September 2006 13:05 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file On 27 Sep 2006 at 9:25, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Does anyone (Lembit?) know how to convert those camcorder vr video > files to a "normal" editable format? My colleague can find a shareware > tool but it will only handle 30 mins and the session in question lasts for hours. If the camcorder has an S-Video or RCA composite video output, you can get a USB video capture device complete with editing software from about $50 or so. Just google "USB video capture" -- Stuart _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From bchacc at san.rr.com Wed Sep 27 14:45:15 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:45:15 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls In-Reply-To: <002f01c6e263$73ad8870$647aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <009901c6e26d$743a5390$6401a8c0@HAL9005> I'd like a foot mouse. Saw one on the web but it didn't look good. I think there's a market out there. Two hands on the keyboard and a foot on the mouse. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:34 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls Does anyone know of an inexpensive foot switch or better an analog (potentiometer) foot pedal? I can find them as part of game controllers but I really want just the pedal part. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: 9/26/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: 9/26/2006 From john at winhaven.net Wed Sep 27 15:22:35 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:22:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls In-Reply-To: <002f01c6e263$73ad8870$647aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <02f801c6e272$abd8d060$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I really have no idea what you're thinking of but here's a link to a foot pedal that I set a music instructor up with last year, in addition to the music program, etc. There's a serial or USB foot pedal: http://www.smartmusic.com/order/accessories.aspx HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Does anyone know of an inexpensive foot switch or better an analog (potentiometer) foot pedal? I can find them as part of game controllers but I really want just the pedal part. From john at winhaven.net Wed Sep 27 17:42:56 2006 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:42:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles Message-ID: <034b01c6e286$46d1afc0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Anyone know how to get the Mail Profile on Windows 2000/XP to stop asking which one to use? From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Sep 28 02:39:40 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:39:40 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file Message-ID: Hi Jon But it is slow (real time). These recordings last for hours, that's why my colleague looks for a cheap and fast software converter. He found TMPGEnc MPEG Editor 2.0: http://www.tmpgenc.net/en/e_main.html At USD 60 I find it cheap but the client thinks otherwise ... /gustav >>> jon at tydda.plus.com 27-09-2006 21:21 >>> I've got one of those, dead easy to use too. Plug in the SCART socket of your VCR or use the AV cables, and straight into a USB port. Really couldn't be easier. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: 27 September 2006 13:05 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Convert Panasonic vr video file On 27 Sep 2006 at 9:25, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Does anyone (Lembit?) know how to convert those camcorder vr video > files to a "normal" editable format? My colleague can find a shareware > tool but it will only handle 30 mins and the session in question lasts for hours. If the camcorder has an S-Video or RCA composite video output, you can get a USB video capture device complete with editing software from about $50 or so. Just google "USB video capture" -- Stuart From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Sep 28 02:42:51 2006 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:42:51 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls Message-ID: Hi John How about paying a visit to the local music instrument store? /gustav -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:34 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls Does anyone know of an inexpensive foot switch or better an analog (potentiometer) foot pedal? I can find them as part of game controllers but I really want just the pedal part. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Thu Sep 28 04:23:09 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:23:09 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD170@ALCEXLG1> Hi all I've got a bit of a strange problem with a scheduled task that doesn't run when it should. It's a batch file which runs various reports from a database, all of which could potentially take a while, so I have it set to run at 5am every weekday. I've been unable to get it to run on the db server, so I've got it running on a client. It works ok when I run it manually when I'm logged in, but it doesn't when I'm not, despite having unticked the "Run only when logged in" box and entering a valid account and password. It seems to start the process, but it doesn't actually run the batch file, by which I mean that when you look in scheduled tasks it claims to be running, but there's nothing else happening... I've been running it manually this week, but obviously that's not ideal for an automated task :-) I'd rather keep the pc logged off if I can help it, as it's the one that's used for our VPN connection, and not my desktop (I have a different installation of the DB client on my desktop and it won't work on here). If anyone's got any ideas, I'd be grateful. Thanks Jon The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Sep 28 06:46:34 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:46:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls In-Reply-To: <02f801c6e272$abd8d060$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <007001c6e2f3$c047d060$647aa8c0@m6805> I am looking for something inexpensive to use as an analog (as in continuously variable) accelerator pedal for my son's ride-on toy. ATM it is just a simple go/nogo switch. I am working on a controller to interface to that switch to allow me to do a "soft start" to ramp up the motors over time to spare the gearboxes the huge torque they see now as the motors just come full on. While I am at it I would like to actually allow a realistic accelerator which can be varied from off to full on over a range. Someone pointed me to hall effect transistors but I haven't found a useful system there either. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:23 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls I really have no idea what you're thinking of but here's a link to a foot pedal that I set a music instructor up with last year, in addition to the music program, etc. There's a serial or USB foot pedal: http://www.smartmusic.com/order/accessories.aspx HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Does anyone know of an inexpensive foot switch or better an analog (potentiometer) foot pedal? I can find them as part of game controllers but I really want just the pedal part. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Thu Sep 28 06:50:25 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:50:25 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD17E@ALCEXLG1> Something like a foot controlled dimmer switch? Wonder if you could build your own... Jon -----Original Message----- From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:47 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls I am looking for something inexpensive to use as an analog (as in continuously variable) accelerator pedal for my son's ride-on toy. ATM it is just a simple go/nogo switch. I am working on a controller to interface to that switch to allow me to do a "soft start" to ramp up the motors over time to spare the gearboxes the huge torque they see now as the motors just come full on. While I am at it I would like to actually allow a realistic accelerator which can be varied from off to full on over a range. Someone pointed me to hall effect transistors but I haven't found a useful system there either. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:23 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls I really have no idea what you're thinking of but here's a link to a foot pedal that I set a music instructor up with last year, in addition to the music program, etc. There's a serial or USB foot pedal: http://www.smartmusic.com/order/accessories.aspx HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Does anyone know of an inexpensive foot switch or better an analog (potentiometer) foot pedal? I can find them as part of game controllers but I really want just the pedal part. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Sep 28 08:14:22 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:14:22 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD17E@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: <007101c6e300$047c54c0$647aa8c0@m6805> I am building my own. ATM I am looking for the foot pedal itself which I do not want to get into building. I don't do plastic molding. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:50 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls Something like a foot controlled dimmer switch? Wonder if you could build your own... Jon -----Original Message----- From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:47 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls I am looking for something inexpensive to use as an analog (as in continuously variable) accelerator pedal for my son's ride-on toy. ATM it is just a simple go/nogo switch. I am working on a controller to interface to that switch to allow me to do a "soft start" to ramp up the motors over time to spare the gearboxes the huge torque they see now as the motors just come full on. While I am at it I would like to actually allow a realistic accelerator which can be varied from off to full on over a range. Someone pointed me to hall effect transistors but I haven't found a useful system there either. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:23 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls I really have no idea what you're thinking of but here's a link to a foot pedal that I set a music instructor up with last year, in addition to the music program, etc. There's a serial or USB foot pedal: http://www.smartmusic.com/order/accessories.aspx HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Does anyone know of an inexpensive foot switch or better an analog (potentiometer) foot pedal? I can find them as part of game controllers but I really want just the pedal part. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Thu Sep 28 08:37:54 2006 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:37:54 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls References: <007001c6e2f3$c047d060$647aa8c0@m6805> Message-ID: <000e01c6e303$4d8dbf20$1800a8c0@s1800> John, how about this: - phase 1: have the existing switch start a slow ramp-up controlled by the microcontroller. - phase 2: add some manual switches which define ramp-up and final speed. - then I would build an own pedal either with LEDs and phototransistors or two coils and the pedal moving a ferrit core thus increasing/decreasing the transfer between coils. one coil having a simple oscillator, the other charging a C, and you measure the dc with your controller Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls >I am looking for something inexpensive to use as an analog (as in > continuously variable) accelerator pedal for my son's ride-on toy. ATM it > is just a simple go/nogo switch. I am working on a controller to > interface > to that switch to allow me to do a "soft start" to ramp up the motors over > time to spare the gearboxes the huge torque they see now as the motors > just > come full on. While I am at it I would like to actually allow a realistic > accelerator which can be varied from off to full on over a range. Someone > pointed me to hall effect transistors but I haven't found a useful system > there either. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:23 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls > > I really have no idea what you're thinking of but here's a link to a foot > pedal that I set a music instructor up with last year, in addition to the > music program, etc. > > There's a serial or USB foot pedal: > http://www.smartmusic.com/order/accessories.aspx > > HTH > John B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby > > Does anyone know of an inexpensive foot switch or better an analog > (potentiometer) foot pedal? I can find them as part of game controllers > but > I really want just the pedal part. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Sep 28 08:49:29 2006 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:49:29 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls In-Reply-To: <000e01c6e303$4d8dbf20$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: <007201c6e304$ec433680$647aa8c0@m6805> Yea, I am going with the current setup, just using pwm to change the duty cycle over time (a couple of seconds) to "ramp up" the speed. In the end that will be good enough in any case. In fact his car has a reverse, "low speed" and a "high speed" in the gear stick so there are in fact two different forward speeds now. The variable foot switch is just a "down the road" thing. I like to have my ducks lined up before I get to the point of needing the ducks. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:38 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls John, how about this: - phase 1: have the existing switch start a slow ramp-up controlled by the microcontroller. - phase 2: add some manual switches which define ramp-up and final speed. - then I would build an own pedal either with LEDs and phototransistors or two coils and the pedal moving a ferrit core thus increasing/decreasing the transfer between coils. one coil having a simple oscillator, the other charging a C, and you measure the dc with your controller Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWColby" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls >I am looking for something inexpensive to use as an analog (as in > continuously variable) accelerator pedal for my son's ride-on toy. ATM it > is just a simple go/nogo switch. I am working on a controller to > interface > to that switch to allow me to do a "soft start" to ramp up the motors over > time to spare the gearboxes the huge torque they see now as the motors > just > come full on. While I am at it I would like to actually allow a realistic > accelerator which can be varied from off to full on over a range. Someone > pointed me to hall effect transistors but I haven't found a useful system > there either. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:23 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Foot switches / controls > > I really have no idea what you're thinking of but here's a link to a foot > pedal that I set a music instructor up with last year, in addition to the > music program, etc. > > There's a serial or USB foot pedal: > http://www.smartmusic.com/order/accessories.aspx > > HTH > John B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby > > Does anyone know of an inexpensive foot switch or better an analog > (potentiometer) foot pedal? I can find them as part of game controllers > but > I really want just the pedal part. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tuxedoman888 at gmail.com Thu Sep 28 11:45:10 2006 From: tuxedoman888 at gmail.com (Billy Pang) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:45:10 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles In-Reply-To: <034b01c6e286$46d1afc0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <034b01c6e286$46d1afc0$6501a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <7c8826480609280945k302fd195teb21c1d4d5df8e3d@mail.gmail.com> are you using microsoft outlook? go to control panel --> mail --> show profiles. On the bottom of the properties windows, choose "always use this profile" instead of "prompt for a profile to be used". hth Billy On 9/27/06, John Bartow wrote: > > Anyone know how to get the Mail Profile on Windows 2000/XP to stop asking > which one to use? > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Billy Pang http://dbnotes.blogspot.com/ "Once the game is over, the King and the pawn go back in the same box." - Italian proverb From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Fri Sep 29 04:26:31 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:26:31 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD18F@ALCEXLG1> Update on this... I left the PC in question logged on last night, and it still didn't run. That's a pain... So it looks like it won't run properly from the task scheduler. I might try it with fewer lines in the batch file, see if that makes a difference... Jon -----Original Message----- From: Jon Tydda Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:23 AM To: Dba-Tech (E-mail) Subject: Scheduled tasks problem Hi all I've got a bit of a strange problem with a scheduled task that doesn't run when it should. It's a batch file which runs various reports from a database, all of which could potentially take a while, so I have it set to run at 5am every weekday. I've been unable to get it to run on the db server, so I've got it running on a client. It works ok when I run it manually when I'm logged in, but it doesn't when I'm not, despite having unticked the "Run only when logged in" box and entering a valid account and password. It seems to start the process, but it doesn't actually run the batch file, by which I mean that when you look in scheduled tasks it claims to be running, but there's nothing else happening... I've been running it manually this week, but obviously that's not ideal for an automated task :-) I'd rather keep the pc logged off if I can help it, as it's the one that's used for our VPN connection, and not my desktop (I have a different installation of the DB client on my desktop and it won't work on here). If anyone's got any ideas, I'd be grateful. Thanks Jon The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Sep 29 08:15:33 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:15:33 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD18F@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: <004301c6e3c9$58f9dee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Are you using Windows scheduler? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:27 AM To: 'Dba-Tech (E-mail)' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Update on this... I left the PC in question logged on last night, and it still didn't run. That's a pain... So it looks like it won't run properly from the task scheduler. I might try it with fewer lines in the batch file, see if that makes a difference... Jon -----Original Message----- From: Jon Tydda Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:23 AM To: Dba-Tech (E-mail) Subject: Scheduled tasks problem Hi all I've got a bit of a strange problem with a scheduled task that doesn't run when it should. It's a batch file which runs various reports from a database, all of which could potentially take a while, so I have it set to run at 5am every weekday. I've been unable to get it to run on the db server, so I've got it running on a client. It works ok when I run it manually when I'm logged in, but it doesn't when I'm not, despite having unticked the "Run only when logged in" box and entering a valid account and password. It seems to start the process, but it doesn't actually run the batch file, by which I mean that when you look in scheduled tasks it claims to be running, but there's nothing else happening... I've been running it manually this week, but obviously that's not ideal for an automated task :-) I'd rather keep the pc logged off if I can help it, as it's the one that's used for our VPN connection, and not my desktop (I have a different installation of the DB client on my desktop and it won't work on here). If anyone's got any ideas, I'd be grateful. Thanks Jon The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Fri Sep 29 08:17:38 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:17:38 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD19C@ALCEXLG1> Yes. I managed to get it working by scheduling each report separately rather than all 8 in a batch file. It's odd as I have a similar one on the server which runs 32 different commands one after the other, but no dice here. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Are you using Windows scheduler? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:27 AM To: 'Dba-Tech (E-mail)' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Update on this... I left the PC in question logged on last night, and it still didn't run. That's a pain... So it looks like it won't run properly from the task scheduler. I might try it with fewer lines in the batch file, see if that makes a difference... Jon -----Original Message----- From: Jon Tydda Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:23 AM To: Dba-Tech (E-mail) Subject: Scheduled tasks problem Hi all I've got a bit of a strange problem with a scheduled task that doesn't run when it should. It's a batch file which runs various reports from a database, all of which could potentially take a while, so I have it set to run at 5am every weekday. I've been unable to get it to run on the db server, so I've got it running on a client. It works ok when I run it manually when I'm logged in, but it doesn't when I'm not, despite having unticked the "Run only when logged in" box and entering a valid account and password. It seems to start the process, but it doesn't actually run the batch file, by which I mean that when you look in scheduled tasks it claims to be running, but there's nothing else happening... I've been running it manually this week, but obviously that's not ideal for an automated task :-) I'd rather keep the pc logged off if I can help it, as it's the one that's used for our VPN connection, and not my desktop (I have a different installation of the DB client on my desktop and it won't work on here). If anyone's got any ideas, I'd be grateful. Thanks Jon The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Sep 29 08:41:52 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:41:52 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD19C@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: <004401c6e3cd$05c9f440$6401a8c0@HAL9005> The 32 command job on the server is in a batch file? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:18 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Yes. I managed to get it working by scheduling each report separately rather than all 8 in a batch file. It's odd as I have a similar one on the server which runs 32 different commands one after the other, but no dice here. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Are you using Windows scheduler? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:27 AM To: 'Dba-Tech (E-mail)' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Update on this... I left the PC in question logged on last night, and it still didn't run. That's a pain... So it looks like it won't run properly from the task scheduler. I might try it with fewer lines in the batch file, see if that makes a difference... Jon -----Original Message----- From: Jon Tydda Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:23 AM To: Dba-Tech (E-mail) Subject: Scheduled tasks problem Hi all I've got a bit of a strange problem with a scheduled task that doesn't run when it should. It's a batch file which runs various reports from a database, all of which could potentially take a while, so I have it set to run at 5am every weekday. I've been unable to get it to run on the db server, so I've got it running on a client. It works ok when I run it manually when I'm logged in, but it doesn't when I'm not, despite having unticked the "Run only when logged in" box and entering a valid account and password. It seems to start the process, but it doesn't actually run the batch file, by which I mean that when you look in scheduled tasks it claims to be running, but there's nothing else happening... I've been running it manually this week, but obviously that's not ideal for an automated task :-) I'd rather keep the pc logged off if I can help it, as it's the one that's used for our VPN connection, and not my desktop (I have a different installation of the DB client on my desktop and it won't work on here). If anyone's got any ideas, I'd be grateful. Thanks Jon The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. 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Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Fri Sep 29 08:46:45 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:46:45 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD19F@ALCEXLG1> Yep, here's a sample of it... REM Update Jobs \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" RSLTCALC \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" CUSTOM UPDATEJOBS REM Files used by several tables. \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA WORK CHROM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA SAMPLES Active Samples \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA TESTS TESTS_CHROM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA WORK PREP \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA WORK WETCHEM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA TESTS TESTS_WETCHEM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA DETS DETS_PREP After that, there's a lot more exporting going on, to set up various work lists for the analysts. This is the batch file that doesn't work. It runs when you double click it, but not when scheduled. REM For Daily Disposal Reports c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_Haz_S, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_S, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_L, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_Haz_W, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_W, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_CUST01, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_CUST02, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_CUST03, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_AQC, Disposal List, F Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:42 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem The 32 command job on the server is in a batch file? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:18 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Yes. I managed to get it working by scheduling each report separately rather than all 8 in a batch file. It's odd as I have a similar one on the server which runs 32 different commands one after the other, but no dice here. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Are you using Windows scheduler? Rocky The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Sep 29 09:06:59 2006 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 07:06:59 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD19F@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: <004801c6e3d0$880a31b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005> Well, if it's working now with separate calls, that's where I usually stop. But if you're curious, I suppose you could try combining two calls into a batch then adding more calls every night to see which one is causing the batch to fail. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:47 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Yep, here's a sample of it... REM Update Jobs \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" RSLTCALC \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" CUSTOM UPDATEJOBS REM Files used by several tables. \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA WORK CHROM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA SAMPLES Active Samples \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA TESTS TESTS_CHROM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA WORK PREP \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA WORK WETCHEM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA TESTS TESTS_WETCHEM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA DETS DETS_PREP After that, there's a lot more exporting going on, to set up various work lists for the analysts. This is the batch file that doesn't work. It runs when you double click it, but not when scheduled. REM For Daily Disposal Reports c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_Haz_S, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_S, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_L, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_Haz_W, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_W, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_CUST01, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_CUST02, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_CUST03, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_AQC, Disposal List, F Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:42 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem The 32 command job on the server is in a batch file? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:18 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Yes. I managed to get it working by scheduling each report separately rather than all 8 in a batch file. It's odd as I have a similar one on the server which runs 32 different commands one after the other, but no dice here. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Are you using Windows scheduler? Rocky The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Fri Sep 29 09:10:02 2006 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:10:02 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D70CD1A1@ALCEXLG1> Yeah, just seems odd that a longer, more involved one works, and this doesn't. Oh well. Next hurdle is to make it work at 5am on Monday morning... Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:07 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Well, if it's working now with separate calls, that's where I usually stop. But if you're curious, I suppose you could try combining two calls into a batch then adding more calls every night to see which one is causing the batch to fail. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:47 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Yep, here's a sample of it... REM Update Jobs \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" RSLTCALC \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" CUSTOM UPDATEJOBS REM Files used by several tables. \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA WORK CHROM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA SAMPLES Active Samples \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA TESTS TESTS_CHROM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA WORK PREP \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA WORK WETCHEM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA TESTS TESTS_WETCHEM \\ALCAISLG1\AISLIMS\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="D:\AIS32JT.INI" EXPORTDATA DETS DETS_PREP After that, there's a lot more exporting going on, to set up various work lists for the analysts. This is the batch file that doesn't work. It runs when you double click it, but not when scheduled. REM For Daily Disposal Reports c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_Haz_S, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_S, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_L, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_Haz_W, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_W, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_CUST01, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_CUST02, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_CUST03, Disposal List, F c:\AISLIMS\AIS32.EXE /INI="C:\AIS32JT.INI" ReportSamples Disposal_AQC, Disposal List, F Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:42 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem The 32 command job on the server is in a batch file? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:18 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Yes. I managed to get it working by scheduling each report separately rather than all 8 in a batch file. It's odd as I have a similar one on the server which runs 32 different commands one after the other, but no dice here. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Scheduled tasks problem Are you using Windows scheduler? Rocky The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291