From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Aug  1 01:34:44 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:34:44 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hamachi on the road
In-Reply-To: <20070801024649.DBE60BD3B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <0JM3009R50Q6BIG2@l-daemon>

John; It definitely is the best and most secure as well. The part I like is
that those servers can be reached through any firewall, on any network or
where ever they happen to be. I could not do business without it.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of
Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hamachi on the road

I set up Hamachi on my three servers before I left home, as well as my
laptop which I have with me.  I bought the pay version, one month license,
for each server.  That basically gives me the ability to load it as a
service which is not available with the free version.  Tonight I am in a
hotel with "high speed internet" and I can see all of the shares on all of
my servers, right over the Hamachi link.  I can also remote desktop in to
all three machines over the Hamachi IP address.

COOL stuff.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Aug  1 10:13:33 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:13:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] McAfee's A/V software runs amok on Windows Vista's tray
In-Reply-To: <20070801024649.DBE60BD3B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <20070801024649.DBE60BD3B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <045001c7d44e$86f85df0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>


its anti-virus software is spawning a new little red M (an icon for McAfee)
into the tray of the copy of Windows Vista...
...it does this every 4 minutes and 10 seconds.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=689




From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Aug  1 20:55:51 2007
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:55:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] McAfee's A/V software runs amok on Windows Vista's
	tray
In-Reply-To: <045001c7d44e$86f85df0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <20070801024649.DBE60BD3B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
	<045001c7d44e$86f85df0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950708011855y575efedch94ec4def58748330@mail.gmail.com>

I have McAfee on Vista and don't have this problem. It does a
reinstall about every freaking day though which bothers me to no end.
But it does that on XP too.I get it free as part of my cable internet
package so I can't complain too much I guess.

GK

On 8/1/07, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
>
> its anti-virus software is spawning a new little red M (an icon for McAfee)
> into the tray of the copy of Windows Vista...
> ...it does this every 4 minutes and 10 seconds.
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=689
>
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Aug  1 23:23:21 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:23:21 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] McAfee's A/V software runs amok on Windows
	Vista'stray
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950708011855y575efedch94ec4def58748330@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070801024649.DBE60BD3B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com><045001c7d44e$86f85df0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
	<aea6c4950708011855y575efedch94ec4def58748330@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ea01c7d4bc$dc8cbea0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

I actually post it here for people that might have to troubleshoot it, right
now ther eis no solution but I'm sure thye'll have on esoon.

Why do you put up with that? AVG Free is Vista compatible:
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/avg-anti-virus-free/lng/us/tpl/v5#details

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:56 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] McAfee's A/V software runs amok on Windows
Vista'stray

I have McAfee on Vista and don't have this problem. It does a reinstall
about every freaking day though which bothers me to no end.
But it does that on XP too.I get it free as part of my cable internet
package so I can't complain too much I guess.




From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 13:03:12 2007
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:03:12 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] McAfee's A/V software runs amok on Windows
	Vista'stray
In-Reply-To: <00ea01c7d4bc$dc8cbea0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <20070801024649.DBE60BD3B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
	<045001c7d44e$86f85df0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
	<aea6c4950708011855y575efedch94ec4def58748330@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ea01c7d4bc$dc8cbea0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950708021103g5647bfdgd6f8c97e3be5b1b2@mail.gmail.com>

I'm a tolerent person. So it runs an installation routine every day or
so....it still works. I think ;-)  I've got it on 2 laptops and 3
desktops now. Had my last Norton subscription run out a couple months
back and so I uninstalled that and loaded this on that one too.

GK

On 8/1/07, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> I actually post it here for people that might have to troubleshoot it, right
> now ther eis no solution but I'm sure thye'll have on esoon.
>
> Why do you put up with that? AVG Free is Vista compatible:
> http://free.grisoft.com/doc/avg-anti-virus-free/lng/us/tpl/v5#details
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:56 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] McAfee's A/V software runs amok on Windows
> Vista'stray
>
> I have McAfee on Vista and don't have this problem. It does a reinstall
> about every freaking day though which bothers me to no end.
> But it does that on XP too.I get it free as part of my cable internet
> package so I can't complain too much I guess.
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Aug  2 14:27:01 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:27:01 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] McAfee's A/V software runs amok on WindowsVista'stray
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950708021103g5647bfdgd6f8c97e3be5b1b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070801024649.DBE60BD3B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com><045001c7d44e$86f85df0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><aea6c4950708011855y575efedch94ec4def58748330@mail.gmail.com><00ea01c7d4bc$dc8cbea0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
	<aea6c4950708021103g5647bfdgd6f8c97e3be5b1b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008401c7d53b$19dcb570$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Out of the frying pan, into the fire!

;o) 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos

<snip>
Had my last Norton subscription run out a couple months back and so I
uninstalled that and loaded this on that one too.




From john at winhaven.net  Fri Aug  3 14:20:46 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:20:46 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <008a01c7d328$c94b3410$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b><002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><e04a6c920707301748h48ac7958s38cf06dd68d9f43a@mail.gmail.com>
	<008a01c7d328$c94b3410$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <019101c7d603$64d2a1c0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

BTW I didn't have to de-crapify this notebook. Dell advertises that their
Vostro line come without pre-loaded software and they were not lying. I
could have chosen to not have this Dell Networking Assistant not preloaded
and given that there wasn't any other junk on it, I tend to believe it
wouldn't have been preloaded.

Vostro - nice low end notebook without the preloaded junk.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow

I just thought I'd check it out before I de-crapify the machine and it was a
curiosity :o)




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug  6 10:24:24 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 08:24:24 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Rules
Message-ID: <003001c7d83d$deb7a350$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

When I set up a rule in outlook to move an email to a specific folder it
sometimes leaves a copy of the email in the original folder.  Any idea why
this happens and what the fix is?

MTIA

Rocky



From john at winhaven.net  Mon Aug  6 10:30:29 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:30:29 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Rules
In-Reply-To: <003001c7d83d$deb7a350$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <003001c7d83d$deb7a350$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <040201c7d83e$b8e38940$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

No idea - every now and then I have a rule that breaks (I use a lot of them)

I would recommend you rebuild the rule from scratch.

HTH
John 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:24 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Rules

Dear List:

When I set up a rule in outlook to move an email to a specific folder it
sometimes leaves a copy of the email in the original folder.  Any idea why
this happens and what the fix is?




From drboz at pacbell.net  Mon Aug  6 11:03:50 2007
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 09:03:50 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Rules
References: <003001c7d83d$deb7a350$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000a01c7d843$61f45740$6501a8c0@don>

Make sure that the instruction of what to do with the message also includes 
the "stop processing more rules" clause.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "List" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:24 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Rules


> Dear List:
>
> When I set up a rule in outlook to move an email to a specific folder it
> sometimes leaves a copy of the email in the original folder.  Any idea why
> this happens and what the fix is?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky
>
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From drboz at pacbell.net  Mon Aug  6 11:08:15 2007
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 09:08:15 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Rules
Message-ID: <001901c7d843$ffe366d0$6501a8c0@don>

Ooops... that's for outlook express... my bad

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Bozarth" <drboz at pacbell.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Rules


> Make sure that the instruction of what to do with the message also 
> includes the "stop processing more rules" clause.
>
> Don B.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> To: "List" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:24 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Rules
>
>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> When I set up a rule in outlook to move an email to a specific folder it
>> sometimes leaves a copy of the email in the original folder.  Any idea 
>> why
>> this happens and what the fix is?
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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> 



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Aug  6 15:24:56 2007
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:24:56 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <019101c7d603$64d2a1c0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><003601c7d2fd$1af59750$
	0500a8c0@jt2b><002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><e04a6c920707301748h
	48ac7958s38cf06dd68d9f43a@mail.gmail.com><008a01c7d328$c94b3410$6402a8c0@Sc
	uzzPaq> <019101c7d603$64d2a1c0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAA@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>


I bought a business desktop recently and one of the main reasons I went
the business route was to avoid the craplets, thus putting me in the
position of paying extra for the privilege of NOT receiving something!
Is this a great country or what!?! 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:21 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

BTW I didn't have to de-crapify this notebook. Dell advertises that
their
Vostro line come without pre-loaded software and they were not lying. I
could have chosen to not have this Dell Networking Assistant not
preloaded
and given that there wasn't any other junk on it, I tend to believe it
wouldn't have been preloaded.

Vostro - nice low end notebook without the preloaded junk.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow

I just thought I'd check it out before I de-crapify the machine and it
was a
curiosity :o)


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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Aug  6 15:41:33 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:41:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAA@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>
References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b><002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><e04a6c920707301748h48ac7958s38cf06dd68d9f43a@mail.gmail.com><008a01c7d328$c94b3410$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
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Message-ID: <04e201c7d86a$2d60f390$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Yea, sure is ;o)

Dell, HP, Gateway and Sony (among others) have taken a LOT of heat lately
concerning the bundling of crap-ware. I think the Mac commercials really
spurred this on. Dell has repsonded with the Vostro. I just bought another
one for another Home Business startup. Everyone wants low cost so...
We'll see how they hold up.

Go Apple! U-RA-ra...

and then there's the iPhone :o(

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account


I bought a business desktop recently and one of the main reasons I went the
business route was to avoid the craplets, thus putting me in the position of
paying extra for the privilege of NOT receiving something!
Is this a great country or what!?! 
Jim Hale




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug  6 16:11:57 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:11:57 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <04e201c7d86a$2d60f390$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <007f01c7d86e$6c855cb0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

I would imagine that the crapware vendors are paying something to have their
crap pre-installed.  If so, losing that revenue  stream might force them to
raise the price of a box, no?

Rocky





 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:42 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

Yea, sure is ;o)

Dell, HP, Gateway and Sony (among others) have taken a LOT of heat lately
concerning the bundling of crap-ware. I think the Mac commercials really
spurred this on. Dell has repsonded with the Vostro. I just bought another
one for another Home Business startup. Everyone wants low cost so...
We'll see how they hold up.

Go Apple! U-RA-ra...

and then there's the iPhone :o(

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account


I bought a business desktop recently and one of the main reasons I went the
business route was to avoid the craplets, thus putting me in the position of
paying extra for the privilege of NOT receiving something!
Is this a great country or what!?! 
Jim Hale


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug  6 16:18:25 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:18:25 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAA@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>
Message-ID: <20070806211827.28FB3BDCE@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

The first thing I do is go into uninstall and uninstall all the crap.  It is
not hard, nor particularly time consuming.  Unfortunately we all know that
windows does not do a particularly great job of uninstalling so there are
directories scattered all over with pieces of junk.  One good pass with
Registry mechanic cleans up most of that.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account


I bought a business desktop recently and one of the main reasons I went the
business route was to avoid the craplets, thus putting me in the position of
paying extra for the privilege of NOT receiving something!
Is this a great country or what!?! 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:21 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

BTW I didn't have to de-crapify this notebook. Dell advertises that their
Vostro line come without pre-loaded software and they were not lying. I
could have chosen to not have this Dell Networking Assistant not preloaded
and given that there wasn't any other junk on it, I tend to believe it
wouldn't have been preloaded.

Vostro - nice low end notebook without the preloaded junk.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow

I just thought I'd check it out before I de-crapify the machine and it was a
curiosity :o)


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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Aug  6 16:27:58 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:27:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <20070806211827.28FB3BDCE@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAA@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>
	<20070806211827.28FB3BDCE@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <04ed01c7d870$b4c6c250$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

There's actually a service online for de-crapifying - its free for home
users.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:18 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

The first thing I do is go into uninstall and uninstall all the crap.  It is
not hard, nor particularly time consuming.  Unfortunately we all know that
windows does not do a particularly great job of uninstalling so there are
directories scattered all over with pieces of junk.  One good pass with
Registry mechanic cleans up most of that.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account




From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Aug  6 16:52:11 2007
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:52:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <20070806211827.28FB3BDCE@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAA@corp-es01.fleetpride.loc
	al> <20070806211827.28FB3BDCE@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAB@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>


I bought registry mechanic this weekend and ran it on my machine (which
has been running slooow). It found 860 "errors" of which it only fixed
135 automatically. So I am left with a bunch of indecipherable registry
keys that may or may not be deleted safely. Kind of like saying "good
news, we found out why you're dying but there is nothing we can do about
it unless you want to perform the operation yourself. Oh, and if you
don't do it right you die anyway" :-(
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:18 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

The first thing I do is go into uninstall and uninstall all the crap.
It is
not hard, nor particularly time consuming.  Unfortunately we all know
that
windows does not do a particularly great job of uninstalling so there
are
directories scattered all over with pieces of junk.  One good pass with
Registry mechanic cleans up most of that.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account


I bought a business desktop recently and one of the main reasons I went
the
business route was to avoid the craplets, thus putting me in the
position of
paying extra for the privilege of NOT receiving something!
Is this a great country or what!?! 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:21 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

BTW I didn't have to de-crapify this notebook. Dell advertises that
their
Vostro line come without pre-loaded software and they were not lying. I
could have chosen to not have this Dell Networking Assistant not
preloaded
and given that there wasn't any other junk on it, I tend to believe it
wouldn't have been preloaded.

Vostro - nice low end notebook without the preloaded junk.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug  6 17:33:46 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:33:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAB@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>
Message-ID: <20070806223347.F1BD8BD60@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

I have an old version - 5.2.0.310.  It fixes everything it finds.  No se why
yours doesn't. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:52 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account


I bought registry mechanic this weekend and ran it on my machine (which has
been running slooow). It found 860 "errors" of which it only fixed
135 automatically. So I am left with a bunch of indecipherable registry keys
that may or may not be deleted safely. Kind of like saying "good news, we
found out why you're dying but there is nothing we can do about it unless
you want to perform the operation yourself. Oh, and if you don't do it right
you die anyway" :-( Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:18 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

The first thing I do is go into uninstall and uninstall all the crap.
It is
not hard, nor particularly time consuming.  Unfortunately we all know that
windows does not do a particularly great job of uninstalling so there are
directories scattered all over with pieces of junk.  One good pass with
Registry mechanic cleans up most of that.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account


I bought a business desktop recently and one of the main reasons I went
the
business route was to avoid the craplets, thus putting me in the
position of
paying extra for the privilege of NOT receiving something!
Is this a great country or what!?! 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:21 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

BTW I didn't have to de-crapify this notebook. Dell advertises that
their
Vostro line come without pre-loaded software and they were not lying. I
could have chosen to not have this Dell Networking Assistant not
preloaded
and given that there wasn't any other junk on it, I tend to believe it
wouldn't have been preloaded.

Vostro - nice low end notebook without the preloaded junk.

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 19:02:49 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 20:02:49 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <04ed01c7d870$b4c6c250$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
References: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAA@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>
	<20070806211827.28FB3BDCE@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
	<04ed01c7d870$b4c6c250$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708061702s67585655nfb1bfe5ea98e5ded@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/6/07, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> There's actually a service online for de-crapifying - its free for home
> users.

And it's called??

And the URL is??

Sheesh. Throw that out with no details. I tell ya, what are we going
to do with you>?

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug  6 19:35:12 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 20:35:12 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708061702s67585655nfb1bfe5ea98e5ded@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070807003514.6464ABD43@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

http://www.yorkspace.com/pc-de-crapifier/ 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:03 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

On 8/6/07, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> There's actually a service online for de-crapifying - its free for 
> home users.

And it's called??

And the URL is??

Sheesh. Throw that out with no details. I tell ya, what are we going to do
with you>?

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 20:08:09 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:08:09 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Download Location
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708061808v4e79c739yb446fd564f4fb574@mail.gmail.com>

Would someone please remind me how to change the default location of where
Firefox places downloaded files. I can't seem to find it.

TIA,
Arthur


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug  6 20:27:50 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:27:50 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Download Location
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708061808v4e79c739yb446fd564f4fb574@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070807012751.98139BC62@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

Tools/options/main/Downloads 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:08 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Download Location

Would someone please remind me how to change the default location of where
Firefox places downloaded files. I can't seem to find it.

TIA,
Arthur
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug  6 21:05:33 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:05:33 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kerio Personal firewall now Subbelt personal Firewall
Message-ID: <20070807020535.04F85BE4A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>



John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Aug  6 22:30:09 2007
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:30:09 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kerio Personal firewall now Subbelt personal Firewall
In-Reply-To: <20070807020535.04F85BE4A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <20070807020535.04F85BE4A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <46B7E741.863.155642ED@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 6 Aug 2007 at 22:05, jwcolby wrote:

> 
> 

Are you trying to tell us something? :-)




From john at winhaven.net  Mon Aug  6 22:34:07 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:34:07 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kerio Personal firewall now Subbelt personal Firewall
In-Reply-To: <20070807020535.04F85BE4A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <20070807020535.04F85BE4A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <059f01c7d8a3$cf726cc0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Hi John,
Its what I have on my wife's notebook and I had monitored it for quite a
long time in "free mode". So I finally decided that I had done that long
enough to know how it worked in that mode and decided to pay for the full
version a couple of months ago. I was surprised when I got their web site.
They never made an issue out of it. I'm an affiliate (as I am with a lot of
security products) and they never sent me a news flash about it (which they
do about almost everything). Their web site looks like their announcing it
now but I still haven't gotten any affiliate updates about it. If you click
here you'll see that they still have Kerio in their banner ads. 

If you click on one of the ads or links you'll also get my affiliate cookie
for that company and they give me credit for any sales you make while that
cookie is still active - which given all the cookie cleaners and internet
cleanup utilities now is probably about 3 seconds ;o) If the cookie makes it
all the way over to a real purchase (a few dozen times) I get a kickback
that gives me enough to actually buy a real cookie! Mmm. Actually, I donate
it back to DBA.

Kerio is still what the corporate product is called and is a separate
company.

BEST part of this thread though is that Sunbelt is selling their firewall at
50% off for a limited time. $10 for the full version right now! Yep, I got
on board a little to earlier again. Cha-ching.

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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Kerio Personal firewall now Subbelt personal Firewall



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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Aug  6 22:39:15 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:39:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <20070807003514.6464ABD43@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <e04a6c920708061702s67585655nfb1bfe5ea98e5ded@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070807003514.6464ABD43@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <05a401c7d8a4$877c3990$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Thanks 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:35 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

http://www.yorkspace.com/pc-de-crapifier/ 





From john at winhaven.net  Mon Aug  6 22:39:15 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:39:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708061702s67585655nfb1bfe5ea98e5ded@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAA@corp-es01.fleetpride.local><20070806211827.28FB3BDCE@smtp-auth.no-ip.com><04ed01c7d870$b4c6c250$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
	<e04a6c920708061702s67585655nfb1bfe5ea98e5ded@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <05a501c7d8a4$87cfb0c0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Sorry - I'm flying around here like a nut lately getting ready for our trip
to Alaska. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:03 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

On 8/6/07, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> There's actually a service online for de-crapifying - its free for 
> home users.

And it's called??

And the URL is??

Sheesh. Throw that out with no details. I tell ya, what are we going to do
with you>?

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Tue Aug  7 06:02:09 2007
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:02:09 +0100 
Subject: [dba-Tech] Citrix connections
Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D0372@ALCEXLG1>

Does anyone know if there's a quick and easy way to copy the settings from
one Citrix Connection (as say a *.ini file) from one PC and deploy them to
another PC (or 50) so that I don't have to physically set up the connections
for each user on each machine?
 
 
Jon


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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Aug  7 07:35:01 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 08:35:01 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Download Location
In-Reply-To: <20070807012751.98139BC62@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <29f585dd0708061808v4e79c739yb446fd564f4fb574@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070807012751.98139BC62@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708070535q227bc532y329496ebe3e316c1@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, JC. I don't know how I missed that. It's not exactly hidden. I swear
that I went through every tab on that sheet  several times and missed it.
Anyway, now I'm a happy camper.

A.

On 8/6/07, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Tools/options/main/Downloads
>
>
>


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Aug  7 07:41:47 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 08:41:47 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Download Location
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708070535q227bc532y329496ebe3e316c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070807124148.DBD73BEE3@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

8-) 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:35 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox Download Location

Thanks, JC. I don't know how I missed that. It's not exactly hidden. I swear
that I went through every tab on that sheet  several times and missed it.
Anyway, now I'm a happy camper.

A.

On 8/6/07, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Tools/options/main/Downloads
>
>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Aug  7 08:43:16 2007
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 08:43:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <20070806223347.F1BD8BD60@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAB@corp-es01.fleetpride.loc
	al> <20070806223347.F1BD8BD60@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAD@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>


I checked and turns out I have Migos registry repair (a Fry special) not
registry mechanic. Most of the errors it won't fix are for file paths it
can't find but doesn't want to delete since the docs say programs may
need them. In any case using it didn't speed up the machine much. I may
have to lobotomize the hard drive and reload. This machine is running
windows 2000 prof and I hate the thought of reinstalling everything,
assuming I can find the disks.
Jim Hale
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:34 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

I have an old version - 5.2.0.310.  It fixes everything it finds.  No se
why
yours doesn't. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:52 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account


I bought registry mechanic this weekend and ran it on my machine (which
has
been running slooow). It found 860 "errors" of which it only fixed
135 automatically. So I am left with a bunch of indecipherable registry
keys
that may or may not be deleted safely. Kind of like saying "good news,
we
found out why you're dying but there is nothing we can do about it
unless
you want to perform the operation yourself. Oh, and if you don't do it
right
you die anyway" :-( Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:18 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

The first thing I do is go into uninstall and uninstall all the crap.
It is
not hard, nor particularly time consuming.  Unfortunately we all know
that
windows does not do a particularly great job of uninstalling so there
are
directories scattered all over with pieces of junk.  One good pass with
Registry mechanic cleans up most of that.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account


I bought a business desktop recently and one of the main reasons I went
the
business route was to avoid the craplets, thus putting me in the
position of
paying extra for the privilege of NOT receiving something!
Is this a great country or what!?! 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:21 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account

BTW I didn't have to de-crapify this notebook. Dell advertises that
their
Vostro line come without pre-loaded software and they were not lying. I
could have chosen to not have this Dell Networking Assistant not
preloaded
and given that there wasn't any other junk on it, I tend to believe it
wouldn't have been preloaded.

Vostro - nice low end notebook without the preloaded junk.

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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Aug  7 09:51:31 2007
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:51:31 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account
In-Reply-To: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAD@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>
References: <FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAB@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>
	<20070806223347.F1BD8BD60@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
	<FBEA4C39D7934A47A057CDFD3CF070EF4CADAD@corp-es01.fleetpride.local>
Message-ID: <074b01c7d902$715ab340$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

Hi Jim,
I Haven't tried Migos - had never even heard of it before.

Here's some that I have tested and/or use:

CCleaner - free:
http://www.ccleaner.com/ 

PCPitstop's Optimize - free scan - I forget now if they still offer a 15 day
trial (but this one is quick and lean and doesn't suck up system resources
in between running it. I also recommend the online scan, it gives good info
and generally tells you how to manually fix things:
http://www.pcpitstop.com/store/optimize.asp

I'm testing System Mechanic 7 right now but at this point I don't recommend
it because its one of those "do everything" utility programs (like Norton
System Works). The security part is not good at all and the resources used
for monitoring in between sessions is unacceptable. It does a great job with
the registry though.

Norton's System Works is fairly mundane at cleaning and optimizing these
days. The resources used for monitoring in between sessions is unacceptable.

There are a lot of Registry cleaners out there that can cause problems
though so be careful what you try. I was testing one free download that made
a royal mess of my registry - it had been recommended by one of the trade
rags too. I sometimes wonder if the rags test any of this stuff or just pass
on links!

Some more links to free tools:
http://www.winhaven.net/tools/FreeSystemChecks.html
http://www.winhaven.net/security/ChecksUps.html

HTH
John B.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account


I checked and turns out I have Migos registry repair (a Fry special) not
registry mechanic. Most of the errors it won't fix are for file paths it
can't find but doesn't want to delete since the docs say programs may need
them. In any case using it didn't speed up the machine much. I may have to
lobotomize the hard drive and reload. This machine is running windows 2000
prof and I hate the thought of reinstalling everything, assuming I can find
the disks.
Jim Hale




From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Aug 10 09:20:32 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:20:32 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the last file in a folder
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708100720m30eea811l69acfc7d88011126@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm working on some Excel VBA in which I need to determine the last file in
a folder. The folder contains one file for each business day in a month, all
named like this: 062907 (June 29). I can't necessarily trust the date stamp
on the file so I have to go by the filenames and determine the "largest"
filename, as it were.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Arthur


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Aug 10 09:22:02 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:22:02 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Refer to an Excel formula
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708100722h64877f50tfc3513571d47e165@mail.gmail.com>

I want to grab a formula from an Excel cell and then parse it. What's the
syntax to grab the formula as text so I can then extract part of it using
the standard text functions?

TIA,
Arthur


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Aug 10 09:38:28 2007
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:38:28 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the last file in a folder
Message-ID: <s6bc94ab.055@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

You could read in the filenames one by one with Dir.
Convert the filename to YYMMDD to sort correctly, and detect if it is larger than the previously stored; if so, replace the stored filename with the current.
When you have read all the filenames, you are done.

/gustav

>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 10-08-2007 16:20 >>>
Hi all,

I'm working on some Excel VBA in which I need to determine the last file in
a folder. The folder contains one file for each business day in a month, all
named like this: 062907 (June 29). I can't necessarily trust the date stamp
on the file so I have to go by the filenames and determine the "largest"
filename, as it were.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Arthur




From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk  Fri Aug 10 09:45:06 2007
From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:45:06 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the last file in a folder
Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D03D6@ALCEXLG1>

Arthur,

I've got some code here that I use to check the latest version of an add in.
If you'd like me to post the code I can, but I think it's a bit long for the
list, else I can just mail you a copy of the code. It's all full of error
handling, correctly set up dims and everything. And yes, that means someone
else wrote it :-)


Jon

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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 3:38 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the last file in a folder


Hi Arthur

You could read in the filenames one by one with Dir.
Convert the filename to YYMMDD to sort correctly, and detect if it is larger
than the previously stored; if so, replace the stored filename with the
current.
When you have read all the filenames, you are done.

/gustav

>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 10-08-2007 16:20 >>>
Hi all,

I'm working on some Excel VBA in which I need to determine the last file in
a folder. The folder contains one file for each business day in a month, all
named like this: 062907 (June 29). I can't necessarily trust the date stamp
on the file so I have to go by the filenames and determine the "largest"
filename, as it were.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Arthur


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 10 10:00:40 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:00:40 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the last file in a folder
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708100720m30eea811l69acfc7d88011126@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0JMK004NEC5T0UZ0@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

Would checking the file attributes in a directory be what you want? Check
this out: http://j-walk.com/ss//excel/tips/tip97.htm

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:21 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the last file in a folder

Hi all,

I'm working on some Excel VBA in which I need to determine the last file in
a folder. The folder contains one file for each business day in a month, all
named like this: 062907 (June 29). I can't necessarily trust the date stamp
on the file so I have to go by the filenames and determine the "largest"
filename, as it were.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 10 10:06:36 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:06:36 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Refer to an Excel formula
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708100722h64877f50tfc3513571d47e165@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0JMK00I6FCFPJHG0@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

Would you not just go into Tools > Macro > Visual Basic Editor create any
function and then call that function from the cell?

Jim

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:22 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Refer to an Excel formula

I want to grab a formula from an Excel cell and then parse it. What's the
syntax to grab the formula as text so I can then extract part of it using
the standard text functions?

TIA,
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Aug 10 11:40:34 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:40:34 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the last file in a folder
In-Reply-To: <0JMK004NEC5T0UZ0@l-daemon>
References: <29f585dd0708100720m30eea811l69acfc7d88011126@mail.gmail.com>
	<0JMK004NEC5T0UZ0@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708100940qb6e0e65gac1ff940ca828c07@mail.gmail.com>

Perfect. Thanks a bunch.

Arthur

On 8/10/07, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Arthur:
>
> Would checking the file attributes in a directory be what you want? Check
> this out: http://j-walk.com/ss//excel/tips/tip97.htm
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:21 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the last file in a folder
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm working on some Excel VBA in which I need to determine the last file
> in
> a folder. The folder contains one file for each business day in a month,
> all
> named like this: 062907 (June 29). I can't necessarily trust the date
> stamp
> on the file so I have to go by the filenames and determine the "largest"
> filename, as it were.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Aug 10 11:51:09 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:51:09 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Refer to an Excel formula
In-Reply-To: <0JMK00I6FCFPJHG0@l-daemon>
References: <29f585dd0708100722h64877f50tfc3513571d47e165@mail.gmail.com>
	<0JMK00I6FCFPJHG0@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708100951h235ee968te9ea5b1cd0a4d8ae@mail.gmail.com>

I've got it now. It's brain-dead simple. Good thing, since I'm brain-dead.

Dim sFormula as String
sFormula = Range("A1").Formula

Doh!
Arthur

On 8/10/07, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Arthur:
>
> Would you not just go into Tools > Macro > Visual Basic Editor create any
> function and then call that function from the cell?
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:22 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Refer to an Excel formula
>
> I want to grab a formula from an Excel cell and then parse it. What's the
> syntax to grab the formula as text so I can then extract part of it using
> the standard text functions?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sat Aug 11 22:05:30 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:05:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam
In-Reply-To: <20070812001200.4C228BC63@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <09a701c7dc6f$47c1c3f0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>
	<20070812001200.4C228BC63@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708112005s40dc07e1r7b2b2c6b77fe75b0@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/11/07, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> What really needs to happen is to make the clients like Outlook etc be able
> to SEND with a specific email address / account, based on the address being
> sent to.  Default to main but allow setting a specific address to do the
> send if desired.  You can receive from all email addresses / accounts but
> the send is all from the same address / account (the default).

I'm sorry to have to say this, but use a better e-mail client. Pegasus
Mail allows me to send as different Identities. I can even set it up
so that if I am in a folder then replies and new mails are
automatically from a specific e-mail address.

Here is an example. All of my e-mail to
listmaster at databaseadvisors.com gets filtered into a specific folder.
When I reply to an e-mail in that folder, it automatically gets sent
from my listmaster identity, which includes my e-mail address as
listmaster at databaseadvisors.com. My personal bryan at carbonnell.ca
account is the default but if I'm in that particular folder,
listmaster gets used. And I've got a few other identitis that I use on
a regular basis.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sat Aug 11 22:07:11 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:07:11 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam
In-Reply-To: <46BE5506.3030309@mvps.org>
References: <0JMM0039TVCSF5NA@l-daemon> <46BE5506.3030309@mvps.org>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708112007h131582d3q2a0d27b9082401b3@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/11/07, Steve Schapel <miscellany at mvps.org> wrote:
> My experience so far (22 hours :-) ) with scrubbing my email by routing
> it through Gmail, is a very high number of false positives, i.e. most of
> the legitimate email is being spam-dunked by Gmail.

That will drop. I get maybe 5-10 false positives a week on a volume of
well over 1500 good email.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Aug 13 03:22:04 2007
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:22:04 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam
Message-ID: <s6c030e6.068@cactus.dk>

Hi John

You wrote:
---
This concept of using gmail as a filter is certainly intriguing, but unfortunately all the spam comes in on my jwcolby address which I do not want to expose to eternal archiving.
---

Well, archiving may not implement more than performing a backup which most ISPs do regularly in some way. We don't know what Google does but my guess it that they don't do anything which cannot be used for selling more adds. Reading e-mails do not add to this while indexing and finding patterns may do. But again, we don't know.

If privacy is of true concern for you, don't use e-mail or at least encrypt it. Remember always to regard a normal e-mail as an open postcard; you never know the route it traveled, nor which eyes may have browsed it.

/gustav




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug 13 08:54:50 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:54:50 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam
In-Reply-To: <s6c030e6.068@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20070813135452.5352DC0AA@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

That raises a question for me.  I was under the impression that each packet
could and often did take an entirely different route across the internet,
which was used to explain the early problems with VOIP - packets arriving
out of order doe to the different routing.  So what really happens?  Do
strings of packets take the same route until... What?  I know nothing about
this stuff but was told that in real life, the only real way to get 100% of
the packets of anything was to physically tap in at the entry/exit point of
the building. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 4:22 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam

Hi John

You wrote:
---
This concept of using gmail as a filter is certainly intriguing, but
unfortunately all the spam comes in on my jwcolby address which I do not
want to expose to eternal archiving.
---

Well, archiving may not implement more than performing a backup which most
ISPs do regularly in some way. We don't know what Google does but my guess
it that they don't do anything which cannot be used for selling more adds.
Reading e-mails do not add to this while indexing and finding patterns may
do. But again, we don't know.

If privacy is of true concern for you, don't use e-mail or at least encrypt
it. Remember always to regard a normal e-mail as an open postcard; you never
know the route it traveled, nor which eyes may have browsed it.

/gustav


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 13 09:24:35 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:24:35 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] test
Message-ID: <000e01c7ddb5$aca17530$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

just testing




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug 13 21:13:12 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:13:12 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail as spam filter
Message-ID: <20070814021313.ECBEBBCFD@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

I have a Gmail account picked up in 1994 and never used, full of spam though
including 16 spams in the in box.

So how do you direct gmail to pick up email from a pop mail account?  I am a
little leery of doing this because I use no-ip to do alternate port email
form me (not use port 25) so that I can send emails through cable vendors
that block port 25.  

How would I cause Gmail to pick up my mail, and then use my email client to
get it from Gmail, and in particular delete the email in Gmail inbox when it
is picked up by the email client?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 14 07:26:05 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:26:05 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail as spam filter
In-Reply-To: <20070814021313.ECBEBBCFD@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <20070814021313.ECBEBBCFD@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708140526k241e9b82w6ac132a514beed8f@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/13/07, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

> So how do you direct gmail to pick up email from a pop mail account?  I am a
> little leery of doing this because I use no-ip to do alternate port email
> form me (not use port 25) so that I can send emails through cable vendors
> that block port 25.

https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=21288&topic=1565

> How would I cause Gmail to pick up my mail, and then use my email client to
> get it from Gmail, and in particular delete the email in Gmail inbox when it
> is picked up by the email client?

Start with
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13273&topic=1556

and then goto
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103&topic=1556
and select your e-mail client.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 14 07:28:22 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:28:22 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam
In-Reply-To: <46C10FBC.9050202@mvps.org>
References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED6DF7@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com>
	<46C10FBC.9050202@mvps.org>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708140528t5f16349wa4c6ce777c65cf02@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/13/07, Steve Schapel <miscellany at mvps.org> wrote:
> Thanks, Lambert.  Just out of interest, I changed my setup from my main
> mail server forwarding the mail to Gmail, to getting Gmail to POP the
> mail from the other server.  I don't know whether it is just
> circumstantial, but the false positives are no longer happening.

It's probably the forwards that were causing the false positives.

It was probably a combination of factors, not the least of which was
the forwarding and the envelope not matching the headers.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Aug 14 07:48:28 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:48:28 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail as spam filter
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708140526k241e9b82w6ac132a514beed8f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070814124830.1FC9EBC7E@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

Thanks Bryan. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:26 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Gmail as spam filter

On 8/13/07, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

> So how do you direct gmail to pick up email from a pop mail account?  
> I am a little leery of doing this because I use no-ip to do alternate 
> port email form me (not use port 25) so that I can send emails through 
> cable vendors that block port 25.

https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=21288&topic=1565

> How would I cause Gmail to pick up my mail, and then use my email 
> client to get it from Gmail, and in particular delete the email in 
> Gmail inbox when it is picked up by the email client?

Start with
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13273&topic=1556

and then goto
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103&topic=1556
and select your e-mail client.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Aug 15 13:44:42 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:44:42 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook hotkeys
Message-ID: <001c01c7df6c$5bfc1e60$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Can you assign a keyboard shortcut to an Outlook macro? In Access, we call
these shortcuts hotkeys (I think). I'm looking through help, but just not
finding what I need. 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Aug 16 12:46:38 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:46:38 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Filling Word fields
Message-ID: <004501c7e02d$667c70d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

I have a reader that wants to fill Word fields based on the selection of
another field -- sort of like choosing a Zip code and having code fill in
the appropriate city and state. This is easily done in Access and if
necessary, I could use Access to drive the whole thing. I'm wondering if
this can be done in Word without involving Access? Has anyone done anything
like this before?

Susan H.  



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Thu Aug 16 13:29:16 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:29:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Filling Word fields
In-Reply-To: <004501c7e02d$667c70d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <004501c7e02d$667c70d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708161129v2b19be02t1b62c63a428dda9@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/16/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a reader that wants to fill Word fields based on the selection of
> another field -- sort of like choosing a Zip code and having code fill in
> the appropriate city and state. This is easily done in Access and if
> necessary, I could use Access to drive the whole thing. I'm wondering if
> this can be done in Word without involving Access? Has anyone done anything
> like this before?

No, but I just knocked together a quick and dirty example (sent
off-line as well).

Assuming that the document has 2 text form fields, one called Text1
and the other called Text2 you could have Text1 run the following
Macro in the OnExit property which would update the text in Text2

Public Sub sPickNumber()

Dim doc As Document
Dim intNumber As Integer

intNumber = Val(ThisDocument.FormFields("Text1").Result)

Select Case intNumber
  Case 1
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "One"
  Case 2
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Two"
  Case 3
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Three"
  Case 4
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Four"
  Case 5
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Five"
  Case Else
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Invalid Entry"
End Select

End Sub

Basically what it does is puts the text for the numbers 1 through 5 in
Text2 depending on the numerical value of the entry in Text1.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Aug 16 13:34:29 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:34:29 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Filling Word fields
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708161129v2b19be02t1b62c63a428dda9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004501c7e02d$667c70d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708161129v2b19be02t1b62c63a428dda9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c7e034$1adb9d70$048e01c7@SusanOne>

OK, but what if there are lots and lots of possibilities -- like in the case
of zip codes -- can Word maintain a list on its own -- kind of like a
reference list or something? I don't even know the right terminology to use
for Word -- so I apologize. 

Thanks for the example Bryan. :) 

Susan H. 

On 8/16/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a reader that wants to fill Word fields based on the selection 
> of another field -- sort of like choosing a Zip code and having code 
> fill in the appropriate city and state. This is easily done in Access 
> and if necessary, I could use Access to drive the whole thing. I'm 
> wondering if this can be done in Word without involving Access? Has 
> anyone done anything like this before?

No, but I just knocked together a quick and dirty example (sent off-line as
well).

Assuming that the document has 2 text form fields, one called Text1 and the
other called Text2 you could have Text1 run the following Macro in the
OnExit property which would update the text in Text2

Public Sub sPickNumber()

Dim doc As Document
Dim intNumber As Integer

intNumber = Val(ThisDocument.FormFields("Text1").Result)

Select Case intNumber
  Case 1
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "One"
  Case 2
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Two"
  Case 3
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Three"
  Case 4
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Four"
  Case 5
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Five"
  Case Else
    ThisDocument.FormFields("Text2").Result = "Invalid Entry"
End Select

End Sub

Basically what it does is puts the text for the numbers 1 through 5 in
Text2 depending on the numerical value of the entry in Text1.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Thu Aug 16 13:43:18 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:43:18 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Filling Word fields
In-Reply-To: <000b01c7e034$1adb9d70$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <004501c7e02d$667c70d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708161129v2b19be02t1b62c63a428dda9@mail.gmail.com>
	<000b01c7e034$1adb9d70$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708161143v576474d8u80ee6d180661e16a@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/16/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, but what if there are lots and lots of possibilities -- like in the case
> of zip codes -- can Word maintain a list on its own -- kind of like a
> reference list or something? I don't even know the right terminology to use
> for Word -- so I apologize.

Not easily it can't. It would all have to be hard coded into the macro.

If there is a large amount of data, then it should really be in a DB,
or at the very least an Excel spreadsheet. Then with either format,
your reader can use automation from within Word to compare the value
in Text1 and put the appropriate value in Text2.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Aug 16 19:23:06 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:23:06 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
Message-ID: <00bc01c7e064$c9cc4f70$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's
office.  Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle.  Re-running the
wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but
the signal was weak and it was shaky.  So I upgraded the router to this
super netgear job.  Good router still not strong enough signal.  Lots of
teeth gnashing and unhappiness.

A month ago I got an Airlink repeater.  The signal was not incredibly strong
but not reliable.  Changed channels.  No soap.  Talked to numerous tech
supporters all over the Indian sub-continent.  Today I returned it to Fry's.


What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called
'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router,
then plug it into the wall.  You RJ45 the other one to the target computer
and plug it into the wall.  And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in
place of the CAT-5.  So now she's commected with what seems to be a very
solid connection.  Just like a ran a wire down there.  4 minute install.  No
software.  No configuring.  Plug 'n' Play.

If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even
do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop.  Just use the
house wiring.  

How long has this been going on? Who knew?  (Probably some of you, I'm
sure).


Rocky



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Aug 16 20:36:35 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:36:35 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c7e064$c9cc4f70$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <20070817013637.40CE6BF9B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

Any specs, url where I can see one? 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:23 PM
To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's
office.  Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle.  Re-running the
wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but
the signal was weak and it was shaky.  So I upgraded the router to this
super netgear job.  Good router still not strong enough signal.  Lots of
teeth gnashing and unhappiness.

A month ago I got an Airlink repeater.  The signal was not incredibly strong
but not reliable.  Changed channels.  No soap.  Talked to numerous tech
supporters all over the Indian sub-continent.  Today I returned it to Fry's.


What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called
'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router,
then plug it into the wall.  You RJ45 the other one to the target computer
and plug it into the wall.  And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in
place of the CAT-5.  So now she's commected with what seems to be a very
solid connection.  Just like a ran a wire down there.  4 minute install.  No
software.  No configuring.  Plug 'n' Play.

If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even
do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop.  Just use the
house wiring.  

How long has this been going on? Who knew?  (Probably some of you, I'm
sure).


Rocky

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Aug 16 21:11:07 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:11:07 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <20070817013637.40CE6BF9B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7e073$df5c0880$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Google 'netgear xe102g'.  That's the two-pack.  But they also come in
singles. I paid $100 because I had to solve the problem like NOW! (you're
married, you understand).  But if you've got a couple days you can get them
cheaper like Amazon, Buy.com etc.

Rocky





 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:37 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Any specs, url where I can see one? 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:23 PM
To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's
office.  Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle.  Re-running the
wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but
the signal was weak and it was shaky.  So I upgraded the router to this
super netgear job.  Good router still not strong enough signal.  Lots of
teeth gnashing and unhappiness.

A month ago I got an Airlink repeater.  The signal was not incredibly strong
but not reliable.  Changed channels.  No soap.  Talked to numerous tech
supporters all over the Indian sub-continent.  Today I returned it to Fry's.


What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called
'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router,
then plug it into the wall.  You RJ45 the other one to the target computer
and plug it into the wall.  And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in
place of the CAT-5.  So now she's commected with what seems to be a very
solid connection.  Just like a ran a wire down there.  4 minute install.  No
software.  No configuring.  Plug 'n' Play.

If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even
do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop.  Just use the
house wiring.  

How long has this been going on? Who knew?  (Probably some of you, I'm
sure).


Rocky

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Aug 16 22:04:29 2007
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:04:29 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <000301c7e073$df5c0880$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <20070817013637.40CE6BF9B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>,
	<000301c7e073$df5c0880$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <46C5103D.20122.10BAB21@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 16 Aug 2007 at 19:11, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> Google 'netgear xe102g'.  That's the two-pack.  But they also come in
> singles. I paid $100 because I had to solve the problem like NOW! (you're
> married, you understand).  But if you've got a couple days you can get them
> cheaper like Amazon, Buy.com etc.

For an extra 50 bucks, you can get the xe104g.  
The 102 is only 14Mbps, the 104 is 84Mbps.   











From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Aug 16 23:29:49 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:29:49 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <46C5103D.20122.10BAB21@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <002301c7e087$3fbb8850$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

I don't think the difference in speed will be noticeable given the stuff
we're doing.  If the link stays up for a couple days straight she'll be
overjoyed.

Rocky
 




 	
	

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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:04 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

On 16 Aug 2007 at 19:11, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> Google 'netgear xe102g'.  That's the two-pack.  But they also come in 
> singles. I paid $100 because I had to solve the problem like NOW! 
> (you're married, you understand).  But if you've got a couple days you 
> can get them cheaper like Amazon, Buy.com etc.

For an extra 50 bucks, you can get the xe104g.  
The 102 is only 14Mbps, the 104 is 84Mbps.   









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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 17 00:46:30 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:46:30 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c7e064$c9cc4f70$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <CE941B0054B343AAAFE3DB976DA7BD06@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Rocky:

This solution is a great way to do LAN wiring without the need to re-run
cables around a building. The concept has been out there in various
implementations for years but there are a couple of gotcha'.

1. The house/building wiring can be poor... no better than bad LAN wiring.
House/Building wiring is generally of a poor quality in compared with
standard network wiring. The impedance should be within a tight range...
notice the numbering on the LAN cabling. Poor quality wiring can eventually
fry you NIC cards and routers.
2. The whole scheme requires that the wiring has been setup correctly. No
cross-overs between the hot and cold alternate cabling. A good profession
electrician will have wired a house correctly but get a few amateurs mucking
around and you will never know which line in hot. (Ever wonder why the plugs
have two different sized holes/prongs) If your circuit somehow gets crossed
or shorted, you can easily blow out all your electrical equipment.

Just a note.

Jim
     

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:23 PM
To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's
office.  Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle.  Re-running the
wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but
the signal was weak and it was shaky.  So I upgraded the router to this
super netgear job.  Good router still not strong enough signal.  Lots of
teeth gnashing and unhappiness.

A month ago I got an Airlink repeater.  The signal was not incredibly strong
but not reliable.  Changed channels.  No soap.  Talked to numerous tech
supporters all over the Indian sub-continent.  Today I returned it to Fry's.


What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called
'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router,
then plug it into the wall.  You RJ45 the other one to the target computer
and plug it into the wall.  And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in
place of the CAT-5.  So now she's commected with what seems to be a very
solid connection.  Just like a ran a wire down there.  4 minute install.  No
software.  No configuring.  Plug 'n' Play.

If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even
do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop.  Just use the
house wiring.  

How long has this been going on? Who knew?  (Probably some of you, I'm
sure).


Rocky

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From robert at servicexp.com  Fri Aug 17 06:28:53 2007
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:28:53 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <CE941B0054B343AAAFE3DB976DA7BD06@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <00bc01c7e064$c9cc4f70$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
	<CE941B0054B343AAAFE3DB976DA7BD06@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7e0c1$cb7ec020$0801a8c0@roberts>

Jim,
 I was under the impression that most, in not all, now have built in
polarity recognition system?

WBR
Robert

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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:47 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Rocky:

This solution is a great way to do LAN wiring without the need to re-run
cables around a building. The concept has been out there in various
implementations for years but there are a couple of gotcha'.

1. The house/building wiring can be poor... no better than bad LAN wiring.
House/Building wiring is generally of a poor quality in compared with
standard network wiring. The impedance should be within a tight range...
notice the numbering on the LAN cabling. Poor quality wiring can eventually
fry you NIC cards and routers.
2. The whole scheme requires that the wiring has been setup correctly. No
cross-overs between the hot and cold alternate cabling. A good profession
electrician will have wired a house correctly but get a few amateurs mucking
around and you will never know which line in hot. (Ever wonder why the plugs
have two different sized holes/prongs) If your circuit somehow gets crossed
or shorted, you can easily blow out all your electrical equipment.

Just a note.

Jim
     

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:23 PM
To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's
office.  Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle.  Re-running the
wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but
the signal was weak and it was shaky.  So I upgraded the router to this
super netgear job.  Good router still not strong enough signal.  Lots of
teeth gnashing and unhappiness.

A month ago I got an Airlink repeater.  The signal was not incredibly strong
but not reliable.  Changed channels.  No soap.  Talked to numerous tech
supporters all over the Indian sub-continent.  Today I returned it to Fry's.


What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called
'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router,
then plug it into the wall.  You RJ45 the other one to the target computer
and plug it into the wall.  And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in
place of the CAT-5.  So now she's commected with what seems to be a very
solid connection.  Just like a ran a wire down there.  4 minute install.  No
software.  No configuring.  Plug 'n' Play.

If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even
do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop.  Just use the
house wiring.  

How long has this been going on? Who knew?  (Probably some of you, I'm
sure).


Rocky

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 17 12:20:05 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:20:05 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <000301c7e0c1$cb7ec020$0801a8c0@roberts>
Message-ID: <7A23431EB2BA489490EBBBBB76564A34@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Robert:

You are correct. There are only problems when the hot and cold lines get
crossed or there is a major short like a toaster has a melt down then the
recognition system is irrelevant.
 
Many years ago there was a LAN network system called ARCNet. It was also
known as the bard-wire network because of its ability to run on virtually
any wiring. To compensate the NIC cards were really built heavy duty. The
circuits were large enough to solder with a wood burning tool and the
Capacitors were a thick as a finger. I have yet to see such heavy-duty
equipment in today's computers.

I have always mistrusted these 'through the house wiring type networks' but
in some cases they may be OK... It is just that the local network community
say they are the greatest things... for business as components are always
failing.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 4:29 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Jim,
 I was under the impression that most, in not all, now have built in
polarity recognition system?

WBR
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:47 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Rocky:

This solution is a great way to do LAN wiring without the need to re-run
cables around a building. The concept has been out there in various
implementations for years but there are a couple of gotcha'.

1. The house/building wiring can be poor... no better than bad LAN wiring.
House/Building wiring is generally of a poor quality in compared with
standard network wiring. The impedance should be within a tight range...
notice the numbering on the LAN cabling. Poor quality wiring can eventually
fry you NIC cards and routers.
2. The whole scheme requires that the wiring has been setup correctly. No
cross-overs between the hot and cold alternate cabling. A good profession
electrician will have wired a house correctly but get a few amateurs mucking
around and you will never know which line in hot. (Ever wonder why the plugs
have two different sized holes/prongs) If your circuit somehow gets crossed
or shorted, you can easily blow out all your electrical equipment.

Just a note.

Jim
     

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:23 PM
To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's
office.  Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle.  Re-running the
wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but
the signal was weak and it was shaky.  So I upgraded the router to this
super netgear job.  Good router still not strong enough signal.  Lots of
teeth gnashing and unhappiness.

A month ago I got an Airlink repeater.  The signal was not incredibly strong
but not reliable.  Changed channels.  No soap.  Talked to numerous tech
supporters all over the Indian sub-continent.  Today I returned it to Fry's.


What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called
'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router,
then plug it into the wall.  You RJ45 the other one to the target computer
and plug it into the wall.  And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in
place of the CAT-5.  So now she's commected with what seems to be a very
solid connection.  Just like a ran a wire down there.  4 minute install.  No
software.  No configuring.  Plug 'n' Play.

If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even
do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop.  Just use the
house wiring.  

How long has this been going on? Who knew?  (Probably some of you, I'm
sure).


Rocky

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Aug 17 15:38:03 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:38:03 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question: go to a named range?
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708171338o2aa8e2dbld8e2d757984cfb17@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I have three similarly named ranges in a worksheet. Depending on values
external to the ranges, I need to populate various cells in one of the three
ranges. Each range consists of a column containing titles and a column to
contain the values. I know how to select a range, but I don't think that's
what I want to do. Instead, given external value A I want to go to the range
corresponding to A and enter values into its second column. I want to go to
the named range's first cell (well actually, the first cell in the second
column). Is there a convenient "relative" way to refer to the cells in a
range, relative to the first cell, something like offset?

TIA,
Arthur


From rustykh at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 15:45:44 2007
From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:45:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New Kodak printers
Message-ID: <232760.45642.qm@web60518.mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have any experience with the new kodak multifunction inkjet printers that have the 9.99 black and 14.99 color cartridges?  If so, can I get some pros and cons from your experience?

TIA,

Rusty


       
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From robert at servicexp.com  Fri Aug 17 15:58:38 2007
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:58:38 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <7A23431EB2BA489490EBBBBB76564A34@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <000301c7e0c1$cb7ec020$0801a8c0@roberts>
	<7A23431EB2BA489490EBBBBB76564A34@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <001101c7e111$63280810$0801a8c0@roberts>

Jim, 
 I guess we need to define what you mean by "hot and cold lines". If you
applying these term as (hot)=L1 and (cold)= Neutral in typical 120v utility
provided power then we are talking about the same thing.

When L1 (the small prong on the plug) and Neutral (the larger prong on the
plug) are reversed that is called "reversed polarity",  Most of these
systems are equipped with polarity recognition system. Meaning when reversed
polarity is detected they shut down and generally give indication of the
condition, allowing no harm to any attached (or it self for that matter)
device.

We may not be talking about the same thing....   



WBR
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:20 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Robert:

You are correct. There are only problems when the hot and cold lines get
crossed or there is a major short like a toaster has a melt down then the
recognition system is irrelevant.
 
Many years ago there was a LAN network system called ARCNet. It was also
known as the bard-wire network because of its ability to run on virtually
any wiring. To compensate the NIC cards were really built heavy duty. The
circuits were large enough to solder with a wood burning tool and the
Capacitors were a thick as a finger. I have yet to see such heavy-duty
equipment in today's computers.

I have always mistrusted these 'through the house wiring type networks' but
in some cases they may be OK... It is just that the local network community
say they are the greatest things... for business as components are always
failing.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 4:29 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Jim,
 I was under the impression that most, in not all, now have built in
polarity recognition system?

WBR
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:47 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Rocky:

This solution is a great way to do LAN wiring without the need to re-run
cables around a building. The concept has been out there in various
implementations for years but there are a couple of gotcha'.

1. The house/building wiring can be poor... no better than bad LAN wiring.
House/Building wiring is generally of a poor quality in compared with
standard network wiring. The impedance should be within a tight range...
notice the numbering on the LAN cabling. Poor quality wiring can eventually
fry you NIC cards and routers.
2. The whole scheme requires that the wiring has been setup correctly. No
cross-overs between the hot and cold alternate cabling. A good profession
electrician will have wired a house correctly but get a few amateurs mucking
around and you will never know which line in hot. (Ever wonder why the plugs
have two different sized holes/prongs) If your circuit somehow gets crossed
or shorted, you can easily blow out all your electrical equipment.

Just a note.

Jim
     

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:23 PM
To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's
office.  Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle.  Re-running the
wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but
the signal was weak and it was shaky.  So I upgraded the router to this
super netgear job.  Good router still not strong enough signal.  Lots of
teeth gnashing and unhappiness.

A month ago I got an Airlink repeater.  The signal was not incredibly strong
but not reliable.  Changed channels.  No soap.  Talked to numerous tech
supporters all over the Indian sub-continent.  Today I returned it to Fry's.


What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called
'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router,
then plug it into the wall.  You RJ45 the other one to the target computer
and plug it into the wall.  And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in
place of the CAT-5.  So now she's commected with what seems to be a very
solid connection.  Just like a ran a wire down there.  4 minute install.  No
software.  No configuring.  Plug 'n' Play.

If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even
do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop.  Just use the
house wiring.  

How long has this been going on? Who knew?  (Probably some of you, I'm
sure).


Rocky

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Aug 17 19:19:13 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:19:13 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question: go to a named range?
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708171338o2aa8e2dbld8e2d757984cfb17@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0708171338o2aa8e2dbld8e2d757984cfb17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007c01c7e12d$689658d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Arthur, I'm not positive, but look into the Cells property:

rangeobject.cells(row,column)

Susan H. 

Hi all,

I have three similarly named ranges in a worksheet. Depending on values
external to the ranges, I need to populate various cells in one of the three
ranges. Each range consists of a column containing titles and a column to
contain the values. I know how to select a range, but I don't think that's
what I want to do. Instead, given external value A I want to go to the range
corresponding to A and enter values into its second column. I want to go to
the named range's first cell (well actually, the first cell in the second
column). Is there a convenient "relative" way to refer to the cells in a
range, relative to the first cell, something like offset?

TIA,
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 17 21:36:38 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:36:38 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] New Kodak printers
In-Reply-To: <232760.45642.qm@web60518.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CB480BD8699A47B48324ADFFB8BFCAA8@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Rsuty; you definitely have perked my interest. Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:46 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] New Kodak printers

Does anyone have any experience with the new kodak multifunction inkjet
printers that have the 9.99 black and 14.99 color cartridges?  If so, can I
get some pros and cons from your experience?

TIA,

Rusty


       
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 17 22:02:37 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:02:37 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <001101c7e111$63280810$0801a8c0@roberts>
Message-ID: <C08A2ED1C8524558A58C63F2033A8074@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Robert:

Alternate current need 2 lines to work. If either line is disconnected the
circuit is broken and power stopped. A potential problem exists when the
circuit is hooked up wrong and instead of an appliance shutting off the hot
line; it shuts off the neutral line. In this case if there is any problem
within the appliance the circuit is live again. 

If you wish to test the theory, stick a fork in your toaster, while holding
on to the tap, when it is off and if your hair stands on end the circuit is
hooked up backwards. If not, your house wiring is correctly.

If the devises can recognize this potential condition you are right there is
no issue. If some amateur hooked up one circuit in the house backwards as
soon as a device is inserted in bad plug and turned on, down goes the
system. If you have something like a table saw in the basement, a place
where many a home-owner and novice electrician learned their trade... I do
not think the polarity recognition system was designed as an off and on
switch.

Jim 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:59 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Jim, 
 I guess we need to define what you mean by "hot and cold lines". If you
applying these term as (hot)=L1 and (cold)= Neutral in typical 120v utility
provided power then we are talking about the same thing.

When L1 (the small prong on the plug) and Neutral (the larger prong on the
plug) are reversed that is called "reversed polarity",  Most of these
systems are equipped with polarity recognition system. Meaning when reversed
polarity is detected they shut down and generally give indication of the
condition, allowing no harm to any attached (or it self for that matter)
device.

We may not be talking about the same thing....   



WBR
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:20 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Robert:

You are correct. There are only problems when the hot and cold lines get
crossed or there is a major short like a toaster has a melt down then the
recognition system is irrelevant.
 
Many years ago there was a LAN network system called ARCNet. It was also
known as the bard-wire network because of its ability to run on virtually
any wiring. To compensate the NIC cards were really built heavy duty. The
circuits were large enough to solder with a wood burning tool and the
Capacitors were a thick as a finger. I have yet to see such heavy-duty
equipment in today's computers.

I have always mistrusted these 'through the house wiring type networks' but
in some cases they may be OK... It is just that the local network community
say they are the greatest things... for business as components are always
failing.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 4:29 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Jim,
 I was under the impression that most, in not all, now have built in
polarity recognition system?

WBR
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:47 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Rocky:

This solution is a great way to do LAN wiring without the need to re-run
cables around a building. The concept has been out there in various
implementations for years but there are a couple of gotcha'.

1. The house/building wiring can be poor... no better than bad LAN wiring.
House/Building wiring is generally of a poor quality in compared with
standard network wiring. The impedance should be within a tight range...
notice the numbering on the LAN cabling. Poor quality wiring can eventually
fry you NIC cards and routers.
2. The whole scheme requires that the wiring has been setup correctly. No
cross-overs between the hot and cold alternate cabling. A good profession
electrician will have wired a house correctly but get a few amateurs mucking
around and you will never know which line in hot. (Ever wonder why the plugs
have two different sized holes/prongs) If your circuit somehow gets crossed
or shorted, you can easily blow out all your electrical equipment.

Just a note.

Jim
     

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:23 PM
To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's
office.  Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle.  Re-running the
wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but
the signal was weak and it was shaky.  So I upgraded the router to this
super netgear job.  Good router still not strong enough signal.  Lots of
teeth gnashing and unhappiness.

A month ago I got an Airlink repeater.  The signal was not incredibly strong
but not reliable.  Changed channels.  No soap.  Talked to numerous tech
supporters all over the Indian sub-continent.  Today I returned it to Fry's.


What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called
'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router,
then plug it into the wall.  You RJ45 the other one to the target computer
and plug it into the wall.  And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in
place of the CAT-5.  So now she's commected with what seems to be a very
solid connection.  Just like a ran a wire down there.  4 minute install.  No
software.  No configuring.  Plug 'n' Play.

If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even
do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop.  Just use the
house wiring.  

How long has this been going on? Who knew?  (Probably some of you, I'm
sure).


Rocky

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From robert at servicexp.com  Fri Aug 17 23:16:21 2007
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:16:21 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <C08A2ED1C8524558A58C63F2033A8074@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <001101c7e111$63280810$0801a8c0@roberts>
	<C08A2ED1C8524558A58C63F2033A8074@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <000601c7e14e$896c18d0$0801a8c0@roberts>

Jim,
 I spent 15 years in the Residential / Commercial HVAC/R service field, so I
understand what you are trying to say, but thanks for your intelligent and
thoughtful lesson nonetheless.. Your concern is simply not an issue here,
and if it was long ago (Are there any published reports of such?), it is
most certainly not now.  Interference from power strips, UPS systems,
induction motors... ect are MUCH bigger issues... It's SO much easier to
detect and respond to polarity issues, then say frequency shifts, brown
outs, or the other host of more complicated power line problems.

That is one interesting test.. One should be careful about such foolish
advice.


WBR
Robert
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:03 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Robert:

Alternate current need 2 lines to work. If either line is disconnected the
circuit is broken and power stopped. A potential problem exists when the
circuit is hooked up wrong and instead of an appliance shutting off the hot
line; it shuts off the neutral line. In this case if there is any problem
within the appliance the circuit is live again. 

If you wish to test the theory, stick a fork in your toaster, while holding
on to the tap, when it is off and if your hair stands on end the circuit is
hooked up backwards. If not, your house wiring is correctly.

If the devises can recognize this potential condition you are right there is
no issue. If some amateur hooked up one circuit in the house backwards as
soon as a device is inserted in bad plug and turned on, down goes the
system. If you have something like a table saw in the basement, a place
where many a home-owner and novice electrician learned their trade... I do
not think the polarity recognition system was designed as an off and on
switch.

Jim 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:59 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Jim,
 I guess we need to define what you mean by "hot and cold lines". If you
applying these term as (hot)=L1 and (cold)= Neutral in typical 120v utility
provided power then we are talking about the same thing.

When L1 (the small prong on the plug) and Neutral (the larger prong on the
plug) are reversed that is called "reversed polarity",  Most of these
systems are equipped with polarity recognition system. Meaning when reversed
polarity is detected they shut down and generally give indication of the
condition, allowing no harm to any attached (or it self for that matter)
device.

We may not be talking about the same thing....   



WBR
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:20 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Robert:

You are correct. There are only problems when the hot and cold lines get
crossed or there is a major short like a toaster has a melt down then the
recognition system is irrelevant.
 
Many years ago there was a LAN network system called ARCNet. It was also
known as the bard-wire network because of its ability to run on virtually
any wiring. To compensate the NIC cards were really built heavy duty. The
circuits were large enough to solder with a wood burning tool and the
Capacitors were a thick as a finger. I have yet to see such heavy-duty
equipment in today's computers.

I have always mistrusted these 'through the house wiring type networks' but
in some cases they may be OK... It is just that the local network community
say they are the greatest things... for business as components are always
failing.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 4:29 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Jim,
 I was under the impression that most, in not all, now have built in
polarity recognition system?

WBR
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:47 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Rocky:

This solution is a great way to do LAN wiring without the need to re-run
cables around a building. The concept has been out there in various
implementations for years but there are a couple of gotcha'.

1. The house/building wiring can be poor... no better than bad LAN wiring.
House/Building wiring is generally of a poor quality in compared with
standard network wiring. The impedance should be within a tight range...
notice the numbering on the LAN cabling. Poor quality wiring can eventually
fry you NIC cards and routers.
2. The whole scheme requires that the wiring has been setup correctly. No
cross-overs between the hot and cold alternate cabling. A good profession
electrician will have wired a house correctly but get a few amateurs mucking
around and you will never know which line in hot. (Ever wonder why the plugs
have two different sized holes/prongs) If your circuit somehow gets crossed
or shorted, you can easily blow out all your electrical equipment.

Just a note.

Jim
     

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:23 PM
To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's
office.  Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle.  Re-running the
wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but
the signal was weak and it was shaky.  So I upgraded the router to this
super netgear job.  Good router still not strong enough signal.  Lots of
teeth gnashing and unhappiness.

A month ago I got an Airlink repeater.  The signal was not incredibly strong
but not reliable.  Changed channels.  No soap.  Talked to numerous tech
supporters all over the Indian sub-continent.  Today I returned it to Fry's.


What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called
'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router,
then plug it into the wall.  You RJ45 the other one to the target computer
and plug it into the wall.  And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in
place of the CAT-5.  So now she's commected with what seems to be a very
solid connection.  Just like a ran a wire down there.  4 minute install.  No
software.  No configuring.  Plug 'n' Play.

If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even
do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop.  Just use the
house wiring.  

How long has this been going on? Who knew?  (Probably some of you, I'm
sure).


Rocky

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 17 23:37:24 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:37:24 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved
In-Reply-To: <000601c7e14e$896c18d0$0801a8c0@roberts>
Message-ID: <F4881D4945ED4324B427F6EA109F2C2C@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Robert:

You are right of course. It would be a one-time test I afraid.... I would
hope no one would take such as comment seriously. It is like testing a leaky
gas line with a match? (Whoops said it again...) ;-) Welcome to the
Darwinian awards.

If my concerns are not an issue I stand corrected... but the general
perception continues

Jim
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:16 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Jim,
 I spent 15 years in the Residential / Commercial HVAC/R service field, so I
understand what you are trying to say, but thanks for your intelligent and
thoughtful lesson nonetheless.. Your concern is simply not an issue here,
and if it was long ago (Are there any published reports of such?), it is
most certainly not now.  Interference from power strips, UPS systems,
induction motors... ect are MUCH bigger issues... It's SO much easier to
detect and respond to polarity issues, then say frequency shifts, brown
outs, or the other host of more complicated power line problems.

That is one interesting test.. One should be careful about such foolish
advice.


WBR
Robert
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:03 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved

Hi Robert:

Alternate current need 2 lines to work. If either line is disconnected the
circuit is broken and power stopped. A potential problem exists when the
circuit is hooked up wrong and instead of an appliance shutting off the hot
line; it shuts off the neutral line. In this case if there is any problem
within the appliance the circuit is live again. 

If you wish to test the theory, stick a fork in your toaster, while holding
on to the tap, when it is off and if your hair stands on end the circuit is
hooked up backwards. If not, your house wiring is correctly.

If the devises can recognize this potential condition you are right there is
no issue. If some amateur hooked up one circuit in the house backwards as
soon as a device is inserted in bad plug and turned on, down goes the
system. If you have something like a table saw in the basement, a place
where many a home-owner and novice electrician learned their trade... I do
not think the polarity recognition system was designed as an off and on
switch.

Jim 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 13:39:56 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:39:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
Message-ID: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>

I want to make some business cards. I know I can buy stock, but I want to
include a photo on the cards. I could probably try this with Word, but I'm
wondering if anyone has any experience with including a photo on a business
card -- what should I do, not do??? Can I learn from your mistakes? It'll be
black and white, which certainly will make it easier. 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 13:39:56 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:39:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook outcmd.dat
Message-ID: <002901c7e1c7$2f2083b0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

The file outcmd.dat contains all the custom changes for the Outlook command
bars. I'm wondering. If you delete it, Outlook resets everything to their
installed defaults. Now, it makes sense that I could copy this file to other
systems to automatically include customization on other systems. It might
also serve as a backup to my customization. 

Will it work that way? 

Susan H.  



From Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk  Sat Aug 18 13:52:58 2007
From: Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:52:58 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B31038290275A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Susan

http://www.ehow.com/how_4954_make-business-cards.html

Some instructions

Martin


Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
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Sent: 18 August 2007 19:39
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards

I want to make some business cards. I know I can buy stock, but I want to
include a photo on the cards. I could probably try this with Word, but I'm
wondering if anyone has any experience with including a photo on a business
card -- what should I do, not do??? Can I learn from your mistakes? It'll be
black and white, which certainly will make it easier.

Susan H.

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 14:10:02 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:10:02 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B31038290275A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B31038290275A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <002d01c7e1cb$62f19a40$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Thanks Martin -- that was pretty easy. :) 

Susan H. 

http://www.ehow.com/how_4954_make-business-cards.html




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Aug 18 14:19:10 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:19:10 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <006101c7e1cc$a79a6540$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

I got mine from Vista Print.  There's 3-4 on-line companies doing it.  Lots
of stock formats or you can upload your own image.  They're cheap and fast. 

Rocky
 




 	
	

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards

I want to make some business cards. I know I can buy stock, but I want to
include a photo on the cards. I could probably try this with Word, but I'm
wondering if anyone has any experience with including a photo on a business
card -- what should I do, not do??? Can I learn from your mistakes? It'll be
black and white, which certainly will make it easier. 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 14:28:48 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:28:48 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <006101c7e1cc$a79a6540$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<006101c7e1cc$a79a6540$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003201c7e1ce$051281c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

I might consider that if I can't get what I want on my own -- don't need
anything fancy fortunately. :) Although, hey -- it would be cool to see lots
of examples -- might inspire me. 

If any of you do your own, would you send me the file at
ssharkins at gmail.com? I'd like to see what everyone's doing. 

Susan H. 

I got mine from Vista Print.  There's 3-4 on-line companies doing it.  Lots
of stock formats or you can upload your own image.  They're cheap and fast. 

Rocky
 




 	
	

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Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards

I want to make some business cards. I know I can buy stock, but I want to
include a photo on the cards. I could probably try this with Word, but I'm
wondering if anyone has any experience with including a photo on a business
card -- what should I do, not do??? Can I learn from your mistakes? It'll be
black and white, which certainly will make it easier. 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 14:30:39 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:30:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <006101c7e1cc$a79a6540$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<006101c7e1cc$a79a6540$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003301c7e1ce$44a75cc0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

And another thing... What about using an oval instead of a square for the
folder, or perhaps even deleting all the background? Are these things
possible? 

Susan H.  


I got mine from Vista Print.  There's 3-4 on-line companies doing it.  Lots
of stock formats or you can upload your own image.  They're cheap and fast. 

Rocky
 




 	
	

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards

I want to make some business cards. I know I can buy stock, but I want to
include a photo on the cards. I could probably try this with Word, but I'm
wondering if anyone has any experience with including a photo on a business
card -- what should I do, not do??? Can I learn from your mistakes? It'll be
black and white, which certainly will make it easier. 

Susan H. 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Aug 18 14:37:47 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:37:47 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <003201c7e1ce$051281c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <006501c7e1cf$417169a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

And after you do them yourself, you still have to go to the printer with
something they can print from.  Vista Print or other on-line - you never
leave your desk and they show up in the mail.  Certain charm to that. I got
a reproduction of my business card that gets inserted into emails.  I'll
send you one off line.

Rocky
  




 	
	

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:29 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Business cards

I might consider that if I can't get what I want on my own -- don't need
anything fancy fortunately. :) Although, hey -- it would be cool to see lots
of examples -- might inspire me. 

If any of you do your own, would you send me the file at
ssharkins at gmail.com? I'd like to see what everyone's doing. 

Susan H. 

I got mine from Vista Print.  There's 3-4 on-line companies doing it.  Lots
of stock formats or you can upload your own image.  They're cheap and fast. 

Rocky
 




 	
	

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Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards

I want to make some business cards. I know I can buy stock, but I want to
include a photo on the cards. I could probably try this with Word, but I'm
wondering if anyone has any experience with including a photo on a business
card -- what should I do, not do??? Can I learn from your mistakes? It'll be
black and white, which certainly will make it easier. 

Susan H. 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Aug 18 14:39:52 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:39:52 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <003301c7e1ce$44a75cc0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <006701c7e1cf$8c3cc060$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Don't know.

Rocky
 




 	
	

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Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:31 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Business cards

And another thing... What about using an oval instead of a square for the
folder, or perhaps even deleting all the background? Are these things
possible? 

Susan H.  


I got mine from Vista Print.  There's 3-4 on-line companies doing it.  Lots
of stock formats or you can upload your own image.  They're cheap and fast. 

Rocky
 




 	
	

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards

I want to make some business cards. I know I can buy stock, but I want to
include a photo on the cards. I could probably try this with Word, but I'm
wondering if anyone has any experience with including a photo on a business
card -- what should I do, not do??? Can I learn from your mistakes? It'll be
black and white, which certainly will make it easier. 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 14:46:32 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:46:32 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <006501c7e1cf$417169a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <003201c7e1ce$051281c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<006501c7e1cf$417169a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003a01c7e1d0$7d13df50$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Or, you can just print them using your own printer. 

Susan H. 

And after you do them yourself, you still have to go to the printer with
something they can print from.  



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Aug 18 15:35:31 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:35:31 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <003a01c7e1d0$7d13df50$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <007801c7e1d7$521eb1b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Yeah but they always look sort of homemade.  You have to put some card stock
through the printer and then cut them nicely.  The Vista Prints were like
under $15 with shipping for 250 of them. Couldn't beat it with a stick.

Check it:

http://www.vistaprint.com/vp/ns/gallery.aspx?g=9&xnav=TsrImage



Rocky
 




 	
	

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To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Business cards

Or, you can just print them using your own printer. 

Susan H. 

And after you do them yourself, you still have to go to the printer with
something they can print from.  

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 16:00:23 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:00:23 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Security Zones -- Restricted
Message-ID: <005601c7e1da$cd1dc970$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Checking the Security Zones in Outlook and I have a number of Restricted
Sites. I'm wondering how Outlook creates this list? Most of these I don't
recall ever visiting. I'm just not finding anything in Help.

Susan H.



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 17:08:43 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:08:43 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question: go to a named range?
In-Reply-To: <007c01c7e12d$689658d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <29f585dd0708171338o2aa8e2dbld8e2d757984cfb17@mail.gmail.com>
	<007c01c7e12d$689658d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708181508v4749fc91m7eaa1c40fafd14a6@mail.gmail.com>

Even simpler than that, SSH, although your advice is Another example of,
"you discover the answer right after you click 'Send'. My only excuse (cuz I
forget the others) is that I'm very old. It turns out to be brain-dead
simple. Good thing, since I'm brain-dead. There are no stupid questions only
stupid people. I stand as exemplar of the latter category. O Well.

On 8/17/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Arthur, I'm not positive, but look into the Cells property:
>
> rangeobject.cells(row,column)
>
> Susan H.
>


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 17:21:56 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:21:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question: go to a named range?
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708181508v4749fc91m7eaa1c40fafd14a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0708171338o2aa8e2dbld8e2d757984cfb17@mail.gmail.com><007c01c7e12d$689658d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<29f585dd0708181508v4749fc91m7eaa1c40fafd14a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c7e1e6$30a3d740$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Well, you're a tease -- what is the simpler solution? 

I answer all my questions as soon as I click Send -- it's almost as good as
ringing Pavlov's bell. 

Susan H. 

Even simpler than that, SSH, although your advice is Another example of,
"you discover the answer right after you click 'Send'. My only excuse (cuz I
forget the others) is that I'm very old. It turns out to be brain-dead
simple. Good thing, since I'm brain-dead. There are no stupid questions only
stupid people. I stand as exemplar of the latter category. O Well.




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Aug 18 22:44:25 2007
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:44:25 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <003d01c7e213$3d4979f0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Susan,

I buy business card stock - the kind with clean snap-off edges (Avery
something).  Then I go to a local store that has a color laser printer where
they will print something for about $0.70/side.  I get both sides printed
with cards I designed.  I tweak the design every 6 months or so.

I used to print on heavy cardstock, and then cut them on a paper cutter.
The Avery cards turn out looking more professional.

Good Luck!
Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 1:40 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards

I want to make some business cards. I know I can buy stock, but I want to
include a photo on the cards. I could probably try this with Word, but I'm
wondering if anyone has any experience with including a photo on a business
card -- what should I do, not do??? Can I learn from your mistakes? It'll be
black and white, which certainly will make it easier. 

Susan H. 

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 07:39:53 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:39:53 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question: go to a named range?
In-Reply-To: <006a01c7e1e6$30a3d740$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <29f585dd0708171338o2aa8e2dbld8e2d757984cfb17@mail.gmail.com>
	<007c01c7e12d$689658d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<29f585dd0708181508v4749fc91m7eaa1c40fafd14a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<006a01c7e1e6$30a3d740$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708190539t7a1ef4dayfb82f17cd6e5e597@mail.gmail.com>

It's called GoTo. Whoever woulda thunk it? Doh!

On 8/18/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, you're a tease -- what is the simpler solution?
>
> I answer all my questions as soon as I click Send -- it's almost as good
> as
> ringing Pavlov's bell.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Even simpler than that, SSH, although your advice is Another example of,
> "you discover the answer right after you click 'Send'. My only excuse (cuz
> I
> forget the others) is that I'm very old. It turns out to be brain-dead
> simple. Good thing, since I'm brain-dead. There are no stupid questions
> only
> stupid people. I stand as exemplar of the latter category. O Well.
>
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 07:40:44 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:40:44 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Business cards
In-Reply-To: <003d01c7e213$3d4979f0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
References: <002801c7e1c7$2e0e5060$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<003d01c7e213$3d4979f0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <000601c7e25e$3025b810$048e01c7@SusanOne>

A friend made some for me years ago and he used the type you're talking
about -- I couldn't tell that they weren't professionally done. 

Susan H. 

I used to print on heavy cardstock, and then cut them on a paper cutter.
The Avery cards turn out looking more professional.


































































































































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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 07:46:24 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:46:24 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question: go to a named range?
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708190539t7a1ef4dayfb82f17cd6e5e597@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0708171338o2aa8e2dbld8e2d757984cfb17@mail.gmail.com><007c01c7e12d$689658d0$048e01c7@SusanOne><29f585dd0708181508v4749fc91m7eaa1c40fafd14a6@mail.gmail.com><006a01c7e1e6$30a3d740$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<29f585dd0708190539t7a1ef4dayfb82f17cd6e5e597@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000701c7e25e$f5cd63b0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

GoTo handles an offset? 

Susan H. 

It's called GoTo. Whoever woulda thunk it? Doh!




From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 07:56:51 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:56:51 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question: go to a named range?
In-Reply-To: <000701c7e25e$f5cd63b0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <29f585dd0708171338o2aa8e2dbld8e2d757984cfb17@mail.gmail.com>
	<007c01c7e12d$689658d0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<29f585dd0708181508v4749fc91m7eaa1c40fafd14a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<006a01c7e1e6$30a3d740$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<29f585dd0708190539t7a1ef4dayfb82f17cd6e5e597@mail.gmail.com>
	<000701c7e25e$f5cd63b0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708190556i233e2e9awc0b94158c2274c52@mail.gmail.com>

I am in no position to call myself expert at Excel VBA. But it turns out
that extensive experience in Access VBA pays off. I've just done some code
that opens numerous workbooks and grabs numbers from them to populate a
newly-created workbook, and it wasn't difficult at all.

GoTo doesn't handle an offset, but it does place you in the first cell of
the specified range, from which you can use OffSet with impunity, it
appears. I'm just discovering what is possible doing this, but I'm having
fun!

To answer your precise question, GoTo appears to take me to the place of
interest, and once that's established, then OffSet works nicely. Perhaps
there is a better way to do it, but for the moment this works.

On 8/19/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> GoTo handles an offset?
>
> Susan H.
>
> It's called GoTo. Whoever woulda thunk it? Doh!
>
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 08:25:57 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:25:57 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question: go to a named range?
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708190556i233e2e9awc0b94158c2274c52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0708171338o2aa8e2dbld8e2d757984cfb17@mail.gmail.com><007c01c7e12d$689658d0$048e01c7@SusanOne><29f585dd0708181508v4749fc91m7eaa1c40fafd14a6@mail.gmail.com><006a01c7e1e6$30a3d740$048e01c7@SusanOne><29f585dd0708190539t7a1ef4dayfb82f17cd6e5e597@mail.gmail.com><000701c7e25e$f5cd63b0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<29f585dd0708190556i233e2e9awc0b94158c2274c52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002101c7e264$81fc48b0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

To answer your precise question, GoTo appears to take me to the place of
interest, and once that's established, then OffSet works nicely. Perhaps
there is a better way to do it, but for the moment this works.

=========It works... That's my only goal. :) 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 09:53:58 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:53:58 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word dropdown fields
Message-ID: <000201c7e270$c8257120$048e01c7@SusanOne>

I know how to add fields to a Word document, and I can even add items
programmatically. The problem is, the dropdown fields looks nothing like I
expected. It looks like a text field and there's dropdown arrow to display
the field's list. I don't get it. The dropdown enabled option is checked. 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 10:15:00 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:15:00 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nevermind (FW: Word dropdown fields)
Message-ID: <001601c7e273$bc82beb0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

 
<groan>

You have to protect the form to enable the field. 

Susan H. 

I know how to add fields to a Word document, and I can even add items
programmatically. The problem is, the dropdown fields looks nothing like I
expected. It looks like a text field and there's dropdown arrow to display
the field's list. I don't get it. The dropdown enabled option is checked. 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 11:17:55 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:17:55 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] One more thing on Word dropdown field
Message-ID: <002601c7e27c$827cfd80$048e01c7@SusanOne>

I'm not seeing any way to actually compare the selected value -- only the
position of the selected value. For instance, if the user selects the first
item, which is "blue" -- the 

ActiveDocument.FormFields("field").DropDown.Value

Returns 1

If the user selects the second item, which is red, it returns 2. 

I can't find a statement to return "blue" and "red." 

Can you do that? 

Susan H. 



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 12:28:29 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:28:29 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] One more thing on Word dropdown field
In-Reply-To: <002601c7e27c$827cfd80$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <002601c7e27c$827cfd80$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/19/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not seeing any way to actually compare the selected value -- only the
> position of the selected value. For instance, if the user selects the first
> item, which is "blue" -- the
>
> ActiveDocument.FormFields("field").DropDown.Value
>
> Returns 1
>
> If the user selects the second item, which is red, it returns 2.
>
> I can't find a statement to return "blue" and "red."
>
> Can you do that?

Off the top of my head, try .Result instead of .Value

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 13:17:19 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:17:19 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] One more thing on Word dropdown field
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002601c7e27c$827cfd80$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c7e28d$2f691370$048e01c7@SusanOne>

 

Off the top of my head, try .Result instead of .Value

======I think... It wasn't in the Intellisence list, but I'll try it and see
what happens. Thanks!

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 13:18:16 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:18:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] One more thing on Word dropdown field
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002601c7e27c$827cfd80$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001001c7e28d$55092fc0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Dropdown field seems to handle only one column of values -- is this true? 

Susan H. 




From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 14:10:40 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:10:40 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word code to dynamically fill Word fields using Access
	data
Message-ID: <000001c7e294$a500d1c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

The following code fills a Word dropdown field using the LastName fields
from the Northwind Employees table. Then, depending on the selected value,
it fills in three Word text fields. 

It works, but I don't know enough about Word to know if this is the best and
most efficient way to tackle this. I'm writing about this because a reader
requested a solution - so I want to make sure I'm using the best "Word"
solution -- because I've tackled this like an Access developer. 

I really expected an easier way to query Access data from Word, but didn't
find one -- but that doesn't mean there isn't one, just means I didn't find
it. 

Susan H. 



Option Explicit

Sub FillDependentFields()
  'Fill form fields based on selected employee
  'in wfEmployeeDropdown.
  Dim db As DAO.Database
  Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
  Dim strSQL As String
  strSQL = "SELECT FirstName, Title, BirthDate FROM Employees " _
   & "WHERE LastName = '" _
   & ThisDocument.FormFields("wfEmployeeDropdown").Result _
   & "'"
  Debug.Print strSQL
  Set db = OpenDatabase(Name:="C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office11\OFFICE11\SAMPLES\Northwind.mdb")
  Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)
  'Ignore Null values from Access data.
  On Error Resume Next
  ThisDocument.FormFields("wfFirstName").Result = rst(0).Value
  ThisDocument.FormFields("wfTitle").Result = rst(1).Value
  ThisDocument.FormFields("wfBirthDate").Result = rst(2).Value
  Set db = Nothing
  Set rst = Nothing
End Sub

Private Sub Document_Close()
  'Clear form fields.
  ActiveDocument.FormFields("wfEmployeeDropdown").DropDown.ListEntries.Clear
  ActiveDocument.FormFields("wfFirstName").TextInput.Clear
  ActiveDocument.FormFields("wfTitle").TextInput.Clear
  ActiveDocument.FormFields("wfBirthDate").TextInput.Clear
End Sub

Private Sub Document_Open()
  'Populate employee dropdown field.
  Dim db As DAO.Database
  Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
  Dim strSQL As String
  strSQL = "SELECT LastName FROM Employees ORDER BY LastName"
  Debug.Print strSQL
  'Update path to database file.
  Set db = OpenDatabase(Name:="C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office11\OFFICE11\SAMPLES\Northwind.mdb")
  Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)
  Do While Not rst.EOF
    With
ActiveDocument.FormFields("wfEmployeeDropdown").DropDown.ListEntries
      .Add Name:=rst(0)
    End With
    rst.MoveNext
  Loop
  Set db = Nothing
  Set rst = Nothing
End Sub
  



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 14:13:16 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:13:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] One more thing on Word dropdown field
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002601c7e27c$827cfd80$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000701c7e295$03e2fb00$048e01c7@SusanOne>

.Result works, but I was using the wrong syntax -- need ThisDocument instead
of ActiveDocument. 

Susan H. 

On 8/19/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not seeing any way to actually compare the selected value -- only 
> the position of the selected value. For instance, if the user selects 
> the first item, which is "blue" -- the
>
> ActiveDocument.FormFields("field").DropDown.Value
>
> Returns 1
>
> If the user selects the second item, which is red, it returns 2.
>
> I can't find a statement to return "blue" and "red."
>
> Can you do that?

Off the top of my head, try .Result instead of .Value

--
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From rustykh at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 19 20:52:56 2007
From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New Kodak printers
Message-ID: <832006.12962.qm@web60511.mail.yahoo.com>

I've looked at the specs on these things and they look good.  I'd really like to know if people are getting the same number of printed pages per cartridge as they were on a comparable hp/canon/epson etc...  and if the printers are holding up okay.  

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:36:38 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] New Kodak printers


Hi Rsuty; you definitely have perked my interest. Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:46 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] New Kodak printers

Does anyone have any experience with the new kodak multifunction inkjet
printers that have the 9.99 black and 14.99 color cartridges?  If so, can I
get some pros and cons from your experience?

TIA,

Rusty


       
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Aug 20 20:10:21 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:10:21 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word dropdown field limit
Message-ID: <000001c7e390$0e206bb0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Word's dropdown field only allows 25 items. Is there another Office
component that you could use if you have more -- something similar to the MS
Forms controls that you can use in Access. 

Susan H. 



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 04:35:42 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:35:42 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word code to dynamically fill Word fields using
	Access data
In-Reply-To: <000001c7e294$a500d1c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <000001c7e294$a500d1c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708210235n4b89acefqb808972c89271086@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Susan,

Finally have more than 3 free seconds to read e-mail. Comments in-line....

On 8/19/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> It works, but I don't know enough about Word to know if this is the best and
> most efficient way to tackle this. I'm writing about this because a reader
> requested a solution - so I want to make sure I'm using the best "Word"
> solution -- because I've tackled this like an Access developer.

At first blush, this is probably the same way I would have tackled it too.

> I really expected an easier way to query Access data from Word, but didn't
> find one -- but that doesn't mean there isn't one, just means I didn't find
> it.

You mean like easy integration of products? Ha Ha Ha. Thanks for the
good laugh first thing in the morning :)

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 04:36:14 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:36:14 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] One more thing on Word dropdown field
In-Reply-To: <001001c7e28d$55092fc0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <002601c7e27c$827cfd80$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>
	<001001c7e28d$55092fc0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708210236p6c3dea46o98059c1559200eec@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/19/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dropdown field seems to handle only one column of values -- is this true?

Yep. Not like the good old Access Combos.

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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 04:39:05 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:39:05 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] One more thing on Word dropdown field
In-Reply-To: <000701c7e295$03e2fb00$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <002601c7e27c$827cfd80$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>
	<000701c7e295$03e2fb00$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708210239m44f2911p21bd8b149d610026@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/19/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> .Result works, but I was using the wrong syntax -- need ThisDocument instead
> of ActiveDocument.

What I normally do is declare a Word Document object and use that
throughout the code..

dim doc as Word.Document

....

doc.blah_blah = blah

....

doc.blah_blah = blah

etc.

set doc = nothing

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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 04:40:18 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:40:18 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] One more thing on Word dropdown field
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708210239m44f2911p21bd8b149d610026@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002601c7e27c$827cfd80$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708191028s21431fabh12803a395b6aae23@mail.gmail.com>
	<000701c7e295$03e2fb00$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708210239m44f2911p21bd8b149d610026@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708210240h2c8859aaref059379aefd1284@mail.gmail.com>

oops forgot one line....

On 8/21/07, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/19/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> > .Result works, but I was using the wrong syntax -- need ThisDocument instead
> > of ActiveDocument.
>
> What I normally do is declare a Word Document object and use that
> throughout the code..
>

> dim doc as Word.Document

Set doc = ActiveDocument ' or ThisDocument

> ....
>
> doc.blah_blah = blah
>
> ....
>
> doc.blah_blah = blah
>
> etc.
>
> set doc = nothing
>
> --
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
>


-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 04:49:30 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:49:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word dropdown field limit
In-Reply-To: <000001c7e390$0e206bb0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <000001c7e390$0e206bb0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708210249u3e56d4j5edb40a220b77f9e@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/20/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> Word's dropdown field only allows 25 items. Is there another Office
> component that you could use if you have more -- something similar to the MS
> Forms controls that you can use in Access.

I'm pretty sure that I've run up against this limit before and had no
luck finding anything that would work, but I can't say with 100%
certainty.

The mind is going :( That or it's just too early in the morning :)

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 09:12:51 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:12:51 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word code to dynamically fill Word fields
	usingAccess data
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708210235n4b89acefqb808972c89271086@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001c7e294$a500d1c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708210235n4b89acefqb808972c89271086@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005301c7e3fd$610f1d40$048e01c7@SusanOne>

 

At first blush, this is probably the same way I would have tackled it too.

=======GMTA. I have looked into mail merge, but it appears to work only with
a table or query -- so it was going to be more work than the route I took --
at least that's what I think. There may be an easy way to pass a parameter
to an Access query using built-in features, but I couldn't find one.

> I really expected an easier way to query Access data from Word, but 
> didn't find one -- but that doesn't mean there isn't one, just means I 
> didn't find it.

You mean like easy integration of products? Ha Ha Ha. Thanks for the good
laugh first thing in the morning :)

=======You're easily entertained. My work here is done. :) 

Susan H. 



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 12:14:27 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:14:27 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word code to dynamically fill Word fields
	usingAccess data
In-Reply-To: <005301c7e3fd$610f1d40$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <000001c7e294$a500d1c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<e04a6c920708210235n4b89acefqb808972c89271086@mail.gmail.com>
	<005301c7e3fd$610f1d40$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708211014u69814ce7l6e929f50313c8ff6@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/21/07, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> At first blush, this is probably the same way I would have tackled it too.
>
> =======GMTA.

Yea, but fools seldom differ :)

> I have looked into mail merge, but it appears to work only with
> a table or query -- so it was going to be more work than the route I took --
> at least that's what I think. There may be an easy way to pass a parameter
> to an Access query using built-in features, but I couldn't find one.

I have never really liked MailMerge. Too many limitations (or at least
ones that are easier to code around than figure out :) for my liking.

> > I really expected an easier way to query Access data from Word, but
> > didn't find one -- but that doesn't mean there isn't one, just means I
> > didn't find it.
>
> You mean like easy integration of products? Ha Ha Ha. Thanks for the good
> laugh first thing in the morning :)
>
> =======You're easily entertained. My work here is done. :)

Very easily. Just ask anyone :)

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 15:23:55 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:23:55 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Inhibit Save prompt when closing Word document
Message-ID: <002801c7e431$35a896c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Is there anyone to inhibit the save prompt when closing a document? I'm
working with a form and I don't want users to save any changes. It's
strictly a fill-in, print, dump form. 

Susan H. 



From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Aug 21 15:38:43 2007
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:38:43 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Inhibit Save prompt when closing Word document
In-Reply-To: <002801c7e431$35a896c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <002801c7e431$35a896c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <002a01c7e433$446ede10$0500a8c0@jt2b>

In Excel you tell it that it's already saved, can't remember the syntax off
the top of my head though, sorry!


Jon

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Subject: [dba-Tech] Inhibit Save prompt when closing Word document

Is there anyone to inhibit the save prompt when closing a document? I'm
working with a form and I don't want users to save any changes. It's
strictly a fill-in, print, dump form. 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 15:42:13 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:42:13 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Inhibit Save prompt when closing Word document
In-Reply-To: <002a01c7e433$446ede10$0500a8c0@jt2b>
References: <002801c7e431$35a896c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<002a01c7e433$446ede10$0500a8c0@jt2b>
Message-ID: <003a01c7e433$c1e1e360$048e01c7@SusanOne>

The Save method lets you inhibit the prompt, but if you do, it saves the
document automatically -- I don't want that and I can't find a way around
it!

Susan H. 

In Excel you tell it that it's already saved, can't remember the syntax off
the top of my head though, sorry!



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Aug 21 18:52:35 2007
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:52:35 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Inhibit Save prompt when closing Word document
In-Reply-To: <002801c7e431$35a896c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <002801c7e431$35a896c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <46CB7AC3.27332.1A1BC663@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 21 Aug 2007 at 16:23, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Is there anyone to inhibit the save prompt when closing a document? I'm
> working with a form and I don't want users to save any changes. It's
> strictly a fill-in, print, dump form. 
> 


Private Sub Document_Close()
ActiveDocument.Saved = True
End Sub




From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 21:03:19 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:03:19 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Inhibit Save prompt when closing Word document
In-Reply-To: <46CB7AC3.27332.1A1BC663@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <002801c7e431$35a896c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<46CB7AC3.27332.1A1BC663@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <002f01c7e460$a19b4790$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Will this close without changing? That's what I need -- no prompt, no save. 

Susan H.  


Private Sub Document_Close()
ActiveDocument.Saved = True
End Sub



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Aug 21 21:54:03 2007
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:54:03 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Inhibit Save prompt when closing Word document
In-Reply-To: <002f01c7e460$a19b4790$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <002801c7e431$35a896c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>,
	<46CB7AC3.27332.1A1BC663@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<002f01c7e460$a19b4790$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <46CBA54B.6098.1AC1E974@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Sure will.  It sets the document's "Saved" flag to True, so Word 
thinks that the document hasn't been edited since it was last saved.

No edits = no save prompt.


On 21 Aug 2007 at 22:03, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Will this close without changing? That's what I need -- no prompt, no save. 
> 
> Susan H.  
> 
> 
> Private Sub Document_Close()
> ActiveDocument.Saved = True
> End Sub
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 22:07:37 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:07:37 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Inhibit Save prompt when closing Word document
In-Reply-To: <46CBA54B.6098.1AC1E974@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <002801c7e431$35a896c0$048e01c7@SusanOne>,
	<46CB7AC3.27332.1A1BC663@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<002f01c7e460$a19b4790$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<46CBA54B.6098.1AC1E974@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <004e01c7e469$9a312700$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Great -- that's exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks!

Susan H. 

Sure will.  It sets the document's "Saved" flag to True, so Word thinks that
the document hasn't been edited since it was last saved.

No edits = no save prompt.




From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Aug 22 11:56:43 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:56:43 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708220956x4dd2d955vc8dddb3255bc474a@mail.gmail.com>

Can someone advise what is occurring when I get an error message from Excel
that says "Overflow." That's all it says.

TIA,
Arthur


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Aug 22 12:19:41 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:19:41 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708220956x4dd2d955vc8dddb3255bc474a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070822171943.160A8BF53@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

This generally occurs when water behind a dam reaches the top and starts to
"over flow" or flow over the top of the dam.  Now, applying this metaphor to
Excel, I would guess that the spreadsheet is becoming full of numbers and
are starting to "over flow" or flow over the top of the spreadsheet.  

I had this happen one time and I ended up with numbers all over the floor.
To make matters worse, I was inserting numbers into the spreadsheet with a
program that had pulled a recordset with millions of records so I was trying
to mop up the numbers at the same time I was frantically searching for how
to stop the program from running.  It was a MESS!!!  I had numbers spilling
down the stairs, my kids were running around downstairs collecting them in
cups and pouring them all over each other.  We were cleaning up numbers for
weeks - under the beds, in the bath tub, even number handprints on the
fridge.  

Take my word for it, get this thing fixed QUICKLY or you could have a
disaster on your hands.

Is it Friday yet?  ;-)


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:57 PM
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

Can someone advise what is occurring when I get an error message from Excel
that says "Overflow." That's all it says.

TIA,
Arthur
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Aug 22 12:35:15 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:35:15 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error
In-Reply-To: <20070822171943.160A8BF53@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <29f585dd0708220956x4dd2d955vc8dddb3255bc474a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070822171943.160A8BF53@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <008301c7e4e2$ceb66430$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Arthur... It means that an expression is stuck or cycling without an anchor
to stop it. ;) Dividing by 0 produces an "overflow" in Access -- same thing
really. 

JC, you just wrote a children's book -- you realize that right???? ;) 

Susan H. 

This generally occurs when water behind a dam reaches the top and starts to
"over flow" or flow over the top of the dam.  Now, applying this metaphor to
Excel, I would guess that the spreadsheet is becoming full of numbers and
are starting to "over flow" or flow over the top of the spreadsheet.  

I had this happen one time and I ended up with numbers all over the floor.
To make matters worse, I was inserting numbers into the spreadsheet with a
program that had pulled a recordset with millions of records so I was trying
to mop up the numbers at the same time I was frantically searching for how
to stop the program from running.  It was a MESS!!!  I had numbers spilling
down the stairs, my kids were running around downstairs collecting them in
cups and pouring them all over each other.  We were cleaning up numbers for
weeks - under the beds, in the bath tub, even number handprints on the
fridge.  

Take my word for it, get this thing fixed QUICKLY or you could have a
disaster on your hands.

Is it Friday yet?  ;-)


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

Can someone advise what is occurring when I get an error message from Excel
that says "Overflow." That's all it says.

TIA,
Arthur
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From rustykh at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 12:44:58 2007
From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error
Message-ID: <956943.82902.qm@web60521.mail.yahoo.com>

Sounds like you needed a number cruncher ;-)

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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:19:41 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

This generally occurs when water behind a dam reaches the top and starts to
"over flow" or flow over the top of the dam.  Now, applying this metaphor to
Excel, I would guess that the spreadsheet is becoming full of numbers and
are starting to "over flow" or flow over the top of the spreadsheet.  

I had this happen one time and I ended up with numbers all over the floor.
To make matters worse, I was inserting numbers into the spreadsheet with a
program that had pulled a recordset with millions of records so I was trying
to mop up the numbers at the same time I was frantically searching for how
to stop the program from running.  It was a MESS!!!  I had numbers spilling
down the stairs, my kids were running around downstairs collecting them in
cups and pouring them all over each other.  We were cleaning up numbers for
weeks - under the beds, in the bath tub, even number handprints on the
fridge.  

Take my word for it, get this thing fixed QUICKLY or you could have a
disaster on your hands.

Is it Friday yet?  ;-)


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:57 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

Can someone advise what is occurring when I get an error message from Excel
that says "Overflow." That's all it says.

TIA,
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Aug 22 12:50:50 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:50:50 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708220956x4dd2d955vc8dddb3255bc474a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <902F20815A3A4FEEA994ADB1304448D3@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Arthur:

This usually happens when you have one cell, say cell A:1, formula calling
another cell, say F:2, and the local formula is calling back to the first
one. You know the old endless loop thing.

It could also be that some formula is resulting in division by zero at odd
times or even nulls.

Excel is not as sophisticated as Access in managing code.

Jim  

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Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

Can someone advise what is occurring when I get an error message from Excel
that says "Overflow." That's all it says.

TIA,
Arthur
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Aug 22 12:49:20 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:49:20 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error
In-Reply-To: <008301c7e4e2$ceb66430$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <20070822174921.CA873BD29@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

>JC, you just wrote a children's book -- you realize that right???? ;) 

Just the ticket for my intended audience, right?  ;-)


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:35 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

Arthur... It means that an expression is stuck or cycling without an anchor
to stop it. ;) Dividing by 0 produces an "overflow" in Access -- same thing
really. 

JC, you just wrote a children's book -- you realize that right???? ;) 

Susan H. 

This generally occurs when water behind a dam reaches the top and starts to
"over flow" or flow over the top of the dam.  Now, applying this metaphor to
Excel, I would guess that the spreadsheet is becoming full of numbers and
are starting to "over flow" or flow over the top of the spreadsheet.  

I had this happen one time and I ended up with numbers all over the floor.
To make matters worse, I was inserting numbers into the spreadsheet with a
program that had pulled a recordset with millions of records so I was trying
to mop up the numbers at the same time I was frantically searching for how
to stop the program from running.  It was a MESS!!!  I had numbers spilling
down the stairs, my kids were running around downstairs collecting them in
cups and pouring them all over each other.  We were cleaning up numbers for
weeks - under the beds, in the bath tub, even number handprints on the
fridge.  

Take my word for it, get this thing fixed QUICKLY or you could have a
disaster on your hands.

Is it Friday yet?  ;-)


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:57 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

Can someone advise what is occurring when I get an error message from Excel
that says "Overflow." That's all it says.

TIA,
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Aug 22 13:11:32 2007
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:11:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error
In-Reply-To: <20070822174921.CA873BD29@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <01596588E0F040BE8D71410A3F050BD4@creativesystemdesigns.com>

John; this is the time you call in Susan. A perfect book for all those with
computer jobs, working at home with kids... Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:49 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

>JC, you just wrote a children's book -- you realize that right???? ;) 

Just the ticket for my intended audience, right?  ;-)


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:35 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

Arthur... It means that an expression is stuck or cycling without an anchor
to stop it. ;) Dividing by 0 produces an "overflow" in Access -- same thing
really. 

JC, you just wrote a children's book -- you realize that right???? ;) 

Susan H. 

This generally occurs when water behind a dam reaches the top and starts to
"over flow" or flow over the top of the dam.  Now, applying this metaphor to
Excel, I would guess that the spreadsheet is becoming full of numbers and
are starting to "over flow" or flow over the top of the spreadsheet.  

I had this happen one time and I ended up with numbers all over the floor.
To make matters worse, I was inserting numbers into the spreadsheet with a
program that had pulled a recordset with millions of records so I was trying
to mop up the numbers at the same time I was frantically searching for how
to stop the program from running.  It was a MESS!!!  I had numbers spilling
down the stairs, my kids were running around downstairs collecting them in
cups and pouring them all over each other.  We were cleaning up numbers for
weeks - under the beds, in the bath tub, even number handprints on the
fridge.  

Take my word for it, get this thing fixed QUICKLY or you could have a
disaster on your hands.

Is it Friday yet?  ;-)


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error

Can someone advise what is occurring when I get an error message from Excel
that says "Overflow." That's all it says.

TIA,
Arthur
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Aug 22 13:08:53 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:08:53 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error
In-Reply-To: <20070822174921.CA873BD29@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
References: <008301c7e4e2$ceb66430$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<20070822174921.CA873BD29@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <009301c7e4e7$8175ae60$048e01c7@SusanOne>

LOL... Well... I for one consider that a compliment on most days. :) 

Susan H. 

>JC, you just wrote a children's book -- you realize that right???? ;)

Just the ticket for my intended audience, right?  ;-)




From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Aug 22 13:13:10 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:13:10 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel overflow error
In-Reply-To: <01596588E0F040BE8D71410A3F050BD4@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <20070822174921.CA873BD29@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
	<01596588E0F040BE8D71410A3F050BD4@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <009401c7e4e8$1bdf8ed0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Truthfully, the image of all those overflowing numbers is an excellent
visual idea for a nonfiction book on numbers -- it really is. I can see JC
easily selling the concept to a publisher -- he just needs the story. :) 

Now, I really don't want to get scolded for going off topic, so I won't say
anymore on the subject, but truthfully -- a work at home dad with kids
underfoot is an extremely sellable idea. That's the take away value --
allowing kids to see how families interact in different ways -- how parents
fulfill obligations differently -- all very "in" -- but you have to hide it
all in a story that will make the kids laugh without realizing that they
just learned something -- take away value wouldn't have to be about learning
numbers, but a social concept -- father who works at home -- more common
these days. 

Susan H. 

John; this is the time you call in Susan. A perfect book for all those with
computer jobs, working at home with kids... Jim 





From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Aug 24 09:10:14 2007
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:10:14 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A couple of Excel questions
Message-ID: <29f585dd0708240710h70824400mc9b46cb1c910462f@mail.gmail.com>

Forgive the double-post. I wasn't sure whether this belongs on dba-Tech or
if it's ok here.


1. When I change column widths on one sheet, it seems to change them on all
sheets. Can't I affect only one sheet?
2. On one of my sheets there is a column that does a VLOOKUP() into another
sheet. Except for the relative row number of the lookup value, the formulae
are identical down the column. But two lookups fail. There doesn't seem to
be anything different about these two. In one case the lookup value is 4431
and the other 11503. I tried switching them to strings and ditto in lookup
table, to no avail. Any idea why these two, and only these two out of about
80 lookups, fail?

TIA,
Arthur


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Aug 24 09:24:13 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:24:13 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A couple of Excel questions
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0708240710h70824400mc9b46cb1c910462f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0708240710h70824400mc9b46cb1c910462f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7e65a$75def6a0$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Arthur, you've probably done both of the following, but just in case. 

First, format the entire column the same. 
Second, recopy the formula. 

Whenever a copied formula fails like that for me -- one of the two almost
always fixes it for me. 

Susan H. 

Forgive the double-post. I wasn't sure whether this belongs on dba-Tech or
if it's ok here.


1. When I change column widths on one sheet, it seems to change them on all
sheets. Can't I affect only one sheet?
2. On one of my sheets there is a column that does a VLOOKUP() into another
sheet. Except for the relative row number of the lookup value, the formulae
are identical down the column. But two lookups fail. There doesn't seem to
be anything different about these two. In one case the lookup value is 4431
and the other 11503. I tried switching them to strings and ditto in lookup
table, to no avail. Any idea why these two, and only these two out of about
80 lookups, fail?




From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Aug 26 13:07:38 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:07:38 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on averages
Message-ID: <000301c7e80c$030be030$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Excel's AVG function uses 0's. Is there an easy way tell Excel to ignore the
0's? I only want to average existing values, but I don't want to update the
range. 

Susan H. 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Aug 26 21:15:48 2007
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:15:48 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on averages
In-Reply-To: <000301c7e80c$030be030$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <000301c7e80c$030be030$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <46D233D4.2376.345EB07C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

You need to create an "array formula" (q.v. in Help.)

"An array formula can perform multiple calculations and then return 
either a single result or multiple results. Array formulas act on two 
or more sets of values known as array arguments. Each array argument 
must have the same number of rows and columns. You create array 
formulas in the same way that you create other formulas, except you 
press CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER to enter the formula."


If your values are in cells C2:C7 enter the following into cell C8:

=AVERAGE(IF(C2:C7<>0,C2:C7,""))

Instead of pressing Enter once you have typed this, press 
Ctrl+Shift+Enter. 

On 26 Aug 2007 at 14:07, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Excel's AVG function uses 0's. Is there an easy way tell Excel to ignore the
> 0's? I only want to average existing values, but I don't want to update the
> range. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 27 08:20:00 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:20:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
Message-ID: <003001c7e8ac$f8c30da0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

My wife's cousin keeps in touch with both his grown kids with web cams. Says
they all three get on at the same time.

Seems like a good idea.  What do I need to know before I try this?  Is it
plug and play?  Or do you need special software? Any recommendations?

TIA

Rocky



From Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk  Mon Aug 27 08:23:29 2007
From: Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:23:29 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <003001c7e8ac$f8c30da0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <003001c7e8ac$f8c30da0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CD6@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Rocky

Plug an play and MSN Live messenger. Good mic and head set and of you go. let me know when your all set up.

We use it with Tricia's sister in Canada.

Martin



Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 14:20
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

My wife's cousin keeps in touch with both his grown kids with web cams. Says
they all three get on at the same time.

Seems like a good idea.  What do I need to know before I try this?  Is it
plug and play?  Or do you need special software? Any recommendations?

TIA

Rocky

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 08:30:19 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:30:19 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on averages
In-Reply-To: <46D233D4.2376.345EB07C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <000301c7e80c$030be030$048e01c7@SusanOne>
	<46D233D4.2376.345EB07C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000101c7e8ae$6b8a5590$048e01c7@SusanOne>

Bill Patten sent me a simpler solution: 

=SUM(range)/COUNTIF(range,">0") 

It works well, but I didn't test it thoroughly because I realized it doesn't
work for me. My situation is more complex than I stated because I wasn't
really thinking. I need a ytd expression that includes only the passed
months -- a passed month could include a 0 value, so Bill's expression
doesn't work for me. I don't see any way around a separate expression for
each month, but I did want to share Bill's expression with you guys because
it's so simple -- I should've thought of it myself! ;) 

Bill's expression does exactly what I requested -- doesn't include 0's in a
range. 

Susan H. 

You need to create an "array formula" (q.v. in Help.)

"An array formula can perform multiple calculations and then return either a
single result or multiple results. Array formulas act on two or more sets of
values known as array arguments. Each array argument must have the same
number of rows and columns. You create array formulas in the same way that
you create other formulas, except you press CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER to enter the
formula."


If your values are in cells C2:C7 enter the following into cell C8:

=AVERAGE(IF(C2:C7<>0,C2:C7,""))

Instead of pressing Enter once you have typed this, press 
Ctrl+Shift+Enter. 

On 26 Aug 2007 at 14:07, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Excel's AVG function uses 0's. Is there an easy way tell Excel to 
> ignore the 0's? I only want to average existing values, but I don't 
> want to update the range.
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 27 08:32:25 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:32:25 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CD6@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
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Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.   

Rocky



 	
	

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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Rocky

Plug an play and MSN Live messenger. Good mic and head set and of you go.
let me know when your all set up.

We use it with Tricia's sister in Canada.

Martin



Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 14:20
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

My wife's cousin keeps in touch with both his grown kids with web cams. Says
they all three get on at the same time.

Seems like a good idea.  What do I need to know before I try this?  Is it
plug and play?  Or do you need special software? Any recommendations?

TIA

Rocky

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From Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk  Mon Aug 27 08:39:12 2007
From: Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:39:12 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <004001c7e8ae$b5189870$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CD6@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004001c7e8ae$b5189870$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CD8@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Rocky

This is the ones I got for use in work and also got one for home . Suppose its the same old story you get what you pay for, This one did everything we needed it to do.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GE9XQ2/ref=pd_cp_e_3/104-7662658-0026352?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_r=01NESG46VD4C0XZX4N9J&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=250314601&pf_rd_i=B000GOUE7Y

Martin



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________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 14:32
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.

Rocky






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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Rocky

Plug an play and MSN Live messenger. Good mic and head set and of you go.
let me know when your all set up.

We use it with Tricia's sister in Canada.

Martin



Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 14:20
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

My wife's cousin keeps in touch with both his grown kids with web cams. Says
they all three get on at the same time.

Seems like a good idea.  What do I need to know before I try this?  Is it
plug and play?  Or do you need special software? Any recommendations?

TIA

Rocky

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 08:44:31 2007
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:44:31 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <004001c7e8ae$b5189870$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CD6@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<004001c7e8ae$b5189870$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000901c7e8b0$664f4e30$048e01c7@SusanOne>

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it? 

Susan H. 

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.   




From Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk  Mon Aug 27 08:53:08 2007
From: Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:53:08 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <000901c7e8b0$664f4e30$048e01c7@SusanOne>
References: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CD6@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<004001c7e8ae$b5189870$0301a8c0@HAL9005>,
	<000901c7e8b0$664f4e30$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CD9@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>

I have 2MB Broadband and its workable.

Martin


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________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at gmail.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 14:44
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug 27 08:59:46 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:59:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <000901c7e8b0$664f4e30$048e01c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <20070827135955.78371BECB@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it? 

Susan H. 

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.   


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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Mon Aug 27 09:05:31 2007
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:05:31 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <003001c7e8ac$f8c30da0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <003001c7e8ac$f8c30da0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001801c7e8b3$546ce080$0500a8c0@jt2b>

MSN messenger is the really easy way to do it, just buy a webcam, install
it, and install messenger. Dead easy.


Jon 

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 14:20
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

My wife's cousin keeps in touch with both his grown kids with web cams. Says
they all three get on at the same time.

Seems like a good idea.  What do I need to know before I try this?  Is it
plug and play?  Or do you need special software? Any recommendations?

TIA

Rocky

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 27 09:07:28 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:07:28 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CD8@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <004b01c7e8b3$9aa800c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Looks nice - $30 and free shipping.  Thanks.

Rocky
 




 	
	

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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:39 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Rocky

This is the ones I got for use in work and also got one for home . Suppose
its the same old story you get what you pay for, This one did everything we
needed it to do.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GE9XQ2/ref=pd_cp_e_3/104-7662658-002635
2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_r=01NESG46VD4C0XZX4N9J&pf_rd
_t=201&pf_rd_p=250314601&pf_rd_i=B000GOUE7Y

Martin



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________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 14:32
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.

Rocky






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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Rocky

Plug an play and MSN Live messenger. Good mic and head set and of you go.
let me know when your all set up.

We use it with Tricia's sister in Canada.

Martin



Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
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To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

My wife's cousin keeps in touch with both his grown kids with web cams. Says
they all three get on at the same time.

Seems like a good idea.  What do I need to know before I try this?  Is it
plug and play?  Or do you need special software? Any recommendations?

TIA

Rocky

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 27 09:08:10 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:08:10 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <20070827135955.78371BECB@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <004c01c7e8b3$b3587fa0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky 




 	
	

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it? 

Susan H. 

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.   


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From Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk  Mon Aug 27 09:09:52 2007
From: Mwp.Reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:09:52 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <004c01c7e8b3$b3587fa0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <20070827135955.78371BECB@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>,
	<004c01c7e8b3$b3587fa0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CDA@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>

your sound card. You should have a socket on the pc somewhere.

Martin


Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky







-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Mon Aug 27 09:14:56 2007
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:14:56 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <004c01c7e8b3$b3587fa0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <20070827135955.78371BECB@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
	<004c01c7e8b3$b3587fa0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001901c7e8b4$a53cefe0$0500a8c0@jt2b>

The soundcard. I've got a Creative Webcam Live! Pro (apparently), and a
separate headset with microphone that plugs into the soundcard. Works a
treat.


Jon

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky 




 	
	

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it? 

Susan H. 

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.   


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 27 09:25:30 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:25:30 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CDA@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <005401c7e8b6$1f752010$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Sound card handles both input and output?  I have separate jacks for
speakers and mic.  Do I need a different sound card?

Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

your sound card. You should have a socket on the pc somewhere.

Martin


Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky







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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Mon Aug 27 09:32:06 2007
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:32:06 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <005401c7e8b6$1f752010$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3103AF877CDA@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<005401c7e8b6$1f752010$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001a01c7e8b7$0b12a920$0500a8c0@jt2b>

Yes, should be a mic in and speaker out. Doesn't work any other way...
Unless I missed something :-)

The basic soundcard on the new HPs at work has line in and line out, so I'd
imagine most would have this feature.


Jon 

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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:26
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Sound card handles both input and output?  I have separate jacks for
speakers and mic.  Do I need a different sound card?

Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

your sound card. You should have a socket on the pc somewhere.

Martin


Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky







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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 27 09:47:24 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:47:24 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <001a01c7e8b7$0b12a920$0500a8c0@jt2b>
Message-ID: <006101c7e8b9$2e5625e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Yeah but they're saying to plug the headset, which has one plug for both
microphone and audio into the sound card.  My sound card has three jacks
(with somewhat obscure icons on them).  Does one of them integrate the input
and output in one?

Rocky





 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:32 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yes, should be a mic in and speaker out. Doesn't work any other way...
Unless I missed something :-)

The basic soundcard on the new HPs at work has line in and line out, so I'd
imagine most would have this feature.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:26
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Sound card handles both input and output?  I have separate jacks for
speakers and mic.  Do I need a different sound card?

Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

your sound card. You should have a socket on the pc somewhere.

Martin


Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky







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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Mon Aug 27 09:57:52 2007
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:57:52 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
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Oh. My headset has two jacks, that's what was confusing me. I can't see how
it would work with only one connection.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:47
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yeah but they're saying to plug the headset, which has one plug for both
microphone and audio into the sound card.  My sound card has three jacks
(with somewhat obscure icons on them).  Does one of them integrate the input
and output in one?

Rocky





 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:32 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yes, should be a mic in and speaker out. Doesn't work any other way...
Unless I missed something :-)

The basic soundcard on the new HPs at work has line in and line out, so I'd
imagine most would have this feature.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:26
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Sound card handles both input and output?  I have separate jacks for
speakers and mic.  Do I need a different sound card?

Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

your sound card. You should have a socket on the pc somewhere.

Martin


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________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky







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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 27 10:11:32 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:11:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
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Aha.  Headset with two jacks.  Makes sense.  Al my headsets have one jack
but they're for the telephone.

Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:58 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Oh. My headset has two jacks, that's what was confusing me. I can't see how
it would work with only one connection.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:47
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yeah but they're saying to plug the headset, which has one plug for both
microphone and audio into the sound card.  My sound card has three jacks
(with somewhat obscure icons on them).  Does one of them integrate the input
and output in one?

Rocky





 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:32 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yes, should be a mic in and speaker out. Doesn't work any other way...
Unless I missed something :-)

The basic soundcard on the new HPs at work has line in and line out, so I'd
imagine most would have this feature.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:26
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Sound card handles both input and output?  I have separate jacks for
speakers and mic.  Do I need a different sound card?

Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

your sound card. You should have a socket on the pc somewhere.

Martin


Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky







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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 10:14:19 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:14:19 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <006101c7e8b9$2e5625e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <001a01c7e8b7$0b12a920$0500a8c0@jt2b>
	<006101c7e8b9$2e5625e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708270814l703d49e3ye39527fc8b33b573@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/27/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software
<rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Yeah but they're saying to plug the headset, which has one plug for both
> microphone and audio into the sound card.  My sound card has three jacks
> (with somewhat obscure icons on them).  Does one of them integrate the input
> and output in one?

I've never heard of a headset/mic with only 1 connector. What make?

But on your sound card the connections probably are:
1) Speaker out
2) Mic In
3) Line In

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 10:15:14 2007
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:15:14 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <006801c7e8bc$8dde4bc0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <001b01c7e8ba$a4ea0630$0500a8c0@jt2b>
	<006801c7e8bc$8dde4bc0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920708270815g6f09f215v28b38833d05ce988@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/27/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software
<rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Aha.  Headset with two jacks.  Makes sense.  Al my headsets have one jack
> but they're for the telephone.

You'll need one for the computer.

-- 
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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug 27 10:21:46 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:21:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <006101c7e8b9$2e5625e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <20070827152155.C96CCC018@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

Rocky,

You have to buy special headsets for this.  These are not the same as for
your cell phone or your cordless house phone.  These headsets have a mice
plug and a headset plug, TWO mini jacks on one cord.  You then plug the one
with the little Microphone picture into the mic input to the PC and plug the
headphone picture into the speaker (I think).  On my laptop there are only
two jacks and there are two plugs from the headset. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:47 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yeah but they're saying to plug the headset, which has one plug for both
microphone and audio into the sound card.  My sound card has three jacks
(with somewhat obscure icons on them).  Does one of them integrate the input
and output in one?

Rocky





 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:32 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yes, should be a mic in and speaker out. Doesn't work any other way...
Unless I missed something :-)

The basic soundcard on the new HPs at work has line in and line out, so I'd
imagine most would have this feature.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:26
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Sound card handles both input and output?  I have separate jacks for
speakers and mic.  Do I need a different sound card?

Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

your sound card. You should have a socket on the pc somewhere.

Martin


Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky







-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 27 10:22:33 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:22:33 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920708270814l703d49e3ye39527fc8b33b573@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008501c7e8be$17ad92b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

The only headsets I've ever used were for telephone - one jack.  So I guess
the PC headsets have two, then?

Rocky





 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:14 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

On 8/27/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> Yeah but they're saying to plug the headset, which has one plug for 
> both microphone and audio into the sound card.  My sound card has 
> three jacks (with somewhat obscure icons on them).  Does one of them 
> integrate the input and output in one?

I've never heard of a headset/mic with only 1 connector. What make?

But on your sound card the connections probably are:
1) Speaker out
2) Mic In
3) Line In

--
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug 27 10:23:11 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:23:11 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <006801c7e8bc$8dde4bc0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <20070827152320.AFA28C108@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

Yesir, different beasts.  You MIGHT be able to find a little splitter widget
that takes the single thing from your phone headset and turns it into two
plugs for your sound card. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:12 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Aha.  Headset with two jacks.  Makes sense.  Al my headsets have one jack
but they're for the telephone.

Rocky
 




 	
	

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:58 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Oh. My headset has two jacks, that's what was confusing me. I can't see how
it would work with only one connection.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:47
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yeah but they're saying to plug the headset, which has one plug for both
microphone and audio into the sound card.  My sound card has three jacks
(with somewhat obscure icons on them).  Does one of them integrate the input
and output in one?

Rocky





 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:32 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yes, should be a mic in and speaker out. Doesn't work any other way...
Unless I missed something :-)

The basic soundcard on the new HPs at work has line in and line out, so I'd
imagine most would have this feature.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:26
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Sound card handles both input and output?  I have separate jacks for
speakers and mic.  Do I need a different sound card?

Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

your sound card. You should have a socket on the pc somewhere.

Martin


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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
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Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky







-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Aug 27 10:25:09 2007
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:25:09 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <20070827152155.C96CCC018@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>
Message-ID: <008601c7e8be$75311650$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Aha. Two plugs.  Who knew?  But if two people on my end want to talk at the
same time to someone on the other end then I guess it's back to external mic
and speakers, which you say doesn't work well?  Like Mom and Dad both
wanting to talk with Junior at college.

Oh, another thing - when you want to talk, do you have to set up a time
beforehand?  You can't really 'call', can you?


Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:22 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Rocky,

You have to buy special headsets for this.  These are not the same as for
your cell phone or your cordless house phone.  These headsets have a mice
plug and a headset plug, TWO mini jacks on one cord.  You then plug the one
with the little Microphone picture into the mic input to the PC and plug the
headphone picture into the speaker (I think).  On my laptop there are only
two jacks and there are two plugs from the headset. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:47 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yeah but they're saying to plug the headset, which has one plug for both
microphone and audio into the sound card.  My sound card has three jacks
(with somewhat obscure icons on them).  Does one of them integrate the input
and output in one?

Rocky





 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:32 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Yes, should be a mic in and speaker out. Doesn't work any other way...
Unless I missed something :-)

The basic soundcard on the new HPs at work has line in and line out, so I'd
imagine most would have this feature.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:26
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Sound card handles both input and output?  I have separate jacks for
speakers and mic.  Do I need a different sound card?

Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

your sound card. You should have a socket on the pc somewhere.

Martin


Martin Reid
Telephone: 02890974465
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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 27 August 2007 15:08
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Where do you plug in the headset then?

Rocky







-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

MAKE SURE that you use a headset with microphone.  Listening to the sound to
speakers and speaking into a mike will cause VERY annoying feedback!!  I do
Skype with one client occasionally and he does not have a headset, and I can
tell you that it is distracting almost to the point of unusable.  You will
speak and then hear yourself about 1/2 second later.  For some reason it
causes the brain to go spastic and makes it very difficult to talk.  OK,
maybe my brain is just spastic but take my word for it, don't do that.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

How about speed? Would the lowest broadband handle it?

Susan H.

Any camera will do?  I see some pretty inexpensive at Fry's.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Aug 27 10:43:21 2007
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:43:21 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web Cam
In-Reply-To: <008601c7e8be$75311650$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <20070827154330.ED3C5BFDA@smtp-auth.no-ip.com>

Nope, not at all.  Anyone who speaks can be heard by all listeners.  I have
never tried Skype with a camera on my end (nor much call for that) but my
client had one built in to his notebook lid and I could see him in it.  The
refresh was slow, one snapshot every few seconds and we both have high speed
internet connection.  And of course I have never tried multiple connections
at the same time (teleconference) though I believe that with Skype you can
have at least three on the phone at the same time.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:25 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Aha. Two plugs.  Who knew?  But if two people on my end want to talk at the
same time to someone on the other end then I guess it's back to external mic
and speakers, which you say doesn't work well?  Like Mom and Dad both
wanting to talk with Junior at college.

Oh, another thing - when you want to talk, do you have to set up a time
beforehand?  You can't really 'call', can you?


Rocky
 




 	
	

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:22 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web Cam

Rocky,

You have to buy special headsets for this.  These are not the same as for
your cell phone or your cordless house phone.  These headsets have a mice
plug and a headset plug, TWO mini jacks on one cord.  You then plug the one
with the little Microphone picture into the mic input to the PC and plug the
headphone picture into the speaker (I think).  On my laptop there are only
two jacks and there are two plugs from the headset. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com



From rustykh at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 29 13:20:40 2007
From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone familiar with Sharepoint services 2.0?
Message-ID: <669097.38253.qm@web60517.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm wondering if it's possible to put a shortcut to run an application on a sharepoint site, like a desktop shortcut.  I'd like to build a menu system in sharepoint to run internally developed applications.




       
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