From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 07:31:04 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:31:04 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Message-ID: <002e01c7bca4$dd1e2ff0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 07:33:16 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:33:16 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail Message-ID: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Any of you tried waxmail -- www.waxmail.biz -- I think it looks really cool, but haven't tried it. According to the blitz, this software lets you send "voice" mail via an Outlook e-mail message. Susan H. From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Mon Jul 2 07:38:03 2007 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:38:03 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <002e01c7bca4$dd1e2ff0$2132fad1@SusanOne> References: <002e01c7bca4$dd1e2ff0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: Worked for me. Typos fixed and mail set. Martin Martin Reid Telephone: 02890974465 ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at setel.com] Sent: 02 July 2007 13:31 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 2 07:39:02 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:39:02 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <002e01c7bca4$dd1e2ff0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <20070702123912.B8D86BF14@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 08:08:34 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:08:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: References: <002e01c7bca4$dd1e2ff0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005001c7bcaa$197eefc0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Well, I'm glad I asked! ;) I guess I should ask -- no updates for 2007 yet, right? Susan H. Worked for me. Typos fixed and mail set. Martin From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 08:08:34 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:08:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <20070702123912.B8D86BF14@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <002e01c7bca4$dd1e2ff0$2132fad1@SusanOne> <20070702123912.B8D86BF14@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <005101c7bcaa$1bcbc5f0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Yes, we discussed VB last week. It's definitely a consideration for me, but right now, I don't even have the time to read about it. I kept all the posts. This month, I plan to reformat and start over. It's time, but I'm not going to try to do it before then. I don't have the expertise or the free time incase I screw it up. :) Susan H. Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 08:17:51 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:17:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <005101c7bcaa$1bcbc5f0$2132fad1@SusanOne> References: <002e01c7bca4$dd1e2ff0$2132fad1@SusanOne><20070702123912.B8D86BF14@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <005101c7bcaa$1bcbc5f0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005801c7bcab$653462f0$2132fad1@SusanOne> I meant VM ... I need a keeper. ;) Susan H. Yes, we discussed VB last week. It's definitely a consideration for me, but right now, I don't even have the time to read about it. I kept all the posts. This month, I plan to reformat and start over. It's time, but I'm not going to try to do it before then. I don't have the expertise or the free time incase I screw it up. :) From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Mon Jul 2 08:48:05 2007 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:48:05 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <005001c7bcaa$197eefc0$2132fad1@SusanOne> References: <002e01c7bca4$dd1e2ff0$2132fad1@SusanOne> , <005001c7bcaa$197eefc0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: Not as far as I know. No SP yet. Martin Martin Reid Telephone: 02890974465 ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at setel.com] Sent: 02 July 2007 14:08 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Well, I'm glad I asked! ;) I guess I should ask -- no updates for 2007 yet, right? From JRojas at tnco-inc.com Mon Jul 2 08:51:43 2007 From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:51:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug References: <20070702123912.B8D86BF14@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5775C4F29@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com> Hi John, Which product from VMWare is free? I am looking for a VM product for a desktop. Need to run Win98 in a VM. Joe Rojas Information Technology Manager Symmetry Medical TNCO 15 Colebrook Blvd Whitman MA 02382 781-447-6661 x7506 jrojas at tnco-inc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:39 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 2 08:56:12 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:56:12 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Message-ID: <380-22007712135612485@M2W039.mail2web.com> John: How long odes it take to switch between machines (mine is 4MHz P4, 1GB RAM) Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:39:02 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft? Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 09:03:27 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:03:27 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne> References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: On 7/2/07, Susan Harkins wrote: > Any of you tried waxmail -- www.waxmail.biz -- I think it looks really cool, > but haven't tried it. > > According to the blitz, this software lets you send "voice" mail via an > Outlook e-mail message. I am not going to say anything about this utter waste of bandwidth. I mean, if you want to talk to someone there is the phone or Skype or the like. Why waste the bandwith on an already over taxed e-mail system because of spam. Sigh who thinks up this crap. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 2 11:00:50 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:00:50 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <380-22007712135612485@M2W039.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <20070702160100.CD9CDBED7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Rocky, With a four megahertz P4 it will take... Oh... About 60 minutes to switch between machines. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:56 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug John: How long odes it take to switch between machines (mine is 4MHz P4, 1GB RAM) Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:39:02 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - MicrosoftR Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 2 11:14:20 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:14:20 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Message-ID: <380-22007712161420222@M2W002.mail2web.com> But seriously... Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:00:50 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Rocky, With a four megahertz P4 it will take... Oh... About 60 minutes to switch between machines. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:56 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug John: How long odes it take to switch between machines (mine is 4MHz P4, 1GB RAM) Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:39:02 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - MicrosoftR Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ? Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft? Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 2 11:23:11 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:23:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <380-22007712161420222@M2W002.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <20070702162322.5C058BCB6@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> But seriously... The last thing I know of that was 4 megahertz was the old PCXTs and none of them ran a P4. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 12:14 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug But seriously... Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:00:50 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Rocky, With a four megahertz P4 it will take... Oh... About 60 minutes to switch between machines. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:56 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug John: How long odes it take to switch between machines (mine is 4MHz P4, 1GB RAM) Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:39:02 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - MicrosoftR Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on MicrosoftR Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 2 11:21:53 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:21:53 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Expression Web Free Trial In-Reply-To: <001e01c7b859$0560ab50$0200a8c0@danwaters> References: <007201c7b678$a766c750$84b82ad1@SusanOne><000801c7b688$1ac53dd0$0200a8c0@danwaters><00cf01c7b6a5$7bcf7100$84b82ad1@SusanOne><000301c7b6b9$a87d08c0$0200a8c0@danwaters><001001c7b742$26932310$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><000001c7b7ef$3d550fc0$0200a8c0@danwaters><012401c7b812$7ffc9410$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <001e01c7b859$0560ab50$0200a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <024001c7bcc5$1c3fc930$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I received my copy of Expression Web (various flavors) with my MSDN update last week. So they truly changed their minds and included it. Originally I was told they would not be including it for the MSDN subscribers. Now I'll take it a bit more seriously. From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 12:33:20 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:33:20 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Whoa... ;) You know Bryan, just because you don't see a need for it, doesn't mean some won't find it useful. :) I've got a grandbaby in Oregon. I would love to hear have a file of his gibberish that I can replay and vice versa. Of course, I could send a taped recording, but this seems quick and easy. Susan H. I am not going to say anything about this utter waste of bandwidth. I mean, if you want to talk to someone there is the phone or Skype or the like. Why waste the bandwith on an already over taxed e-mail system because of spam. Sigh who thinks up this crap. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/873 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 11:54 PM From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 2 12:38:39 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:38:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <20070702173850.12EC8BE85@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Susan, I could just call you. Half of what I say is gibberish anyway so you might find that just as good. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:33 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail Whoa... ;) You know Bryan, just because you don't see a need for it, doesn't mean some won't find it useful. :) I've got a grandbaby in Oregon. I would love to hear have a file of his gibberish that I can replay and vice versa. Of course, I could send a taped recording, but this seems quick and easy. Susan H. I am not going to say anything about this utter waste of bandwidth. I mean, if you want to talk to someone there is the phone or Skype or the like. Why waste the bandwith on an already over taxed e-mail system because of spam. Sigh who thinks up this crap. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/873 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 11:54 PM _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 2 12:40:08 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:40:08 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Message-ID: <380-2200771217408913@M2W018.mail2web.com> sorry...my bad...4GHz Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:23:11 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug But seriously... The last thing I know of that was 4 megahertz was the old PCXTs and none of them ran a P4. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 12:14 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug But seriously... Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:00:50 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Rocky, With a four megahertz P4 it will take... Oh... About 60 minutes to switch between machines. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:56 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug John: How long odes it take to switch between machines (mine is 4MHz P4, 1GB RAM) Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:39:02 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - MicrosoftR Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on MicrosoftR Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ? What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 2 12:50:43 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:50:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <380-2200771217408913@M2W018.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <20070702175054.CACA2BE58@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Rocky, Not that I can answer much anyway, I have gotten VMs up and running but never spent much time playing with them. I don't understand what you are looking for when you say "switching between machines". Physically switching is done using hot keys on the keyboard so it takes just a second or two. The virtual swaps (overhead?) for the software is almost negligible. AFAICT, all virtual machines occupy the 2 GBytes of "program memory" available on the host machine (when using a 32 bit OS as the host). You determine how much memory each virtual machine is going to have in a parameter screen. Thus you could have 4 virtual machines each allocated 500 mb, or two virtual machines each allocated one gigabyte etc. As you can see, the limits of a 32 bit OS is becoming very real in many different areas. Who'd uv thunk that 4 gigs of ram would be too small? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:40 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug sorry...my bad...4GHz Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:23:11 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug But seriously... The last thing I know of that was 4 megahertz was the old PCXTs and none of them ran a P4. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 12:14 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug But seriously... Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:00:50 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Rocky, With a four megahertz P4 it will take... Oh... About 60 minutes to switch between machines. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:56 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug John: How long odes it take to switch between machines (mine is 4MHz P4, 1GB RAM) Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:39:02 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - MicrosoftR Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on MicrosoftR Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 13:17:46 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:17:46 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <20070702173850.12EC8BE85@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> <20070702173850.12EC8BE85@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <005001c7bcda$38f262d0$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Okay if I can call you at 2:00 in the morning when I can't sleep and I need to hear that baby???? ;) Susan H. I could just call you. Half of what I say is gibberish anyway so you might find that just as good. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 2 14:42:50 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 15:42:50 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <005001c7bcda$38f262d0$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <20070702194301.6F653BCC8@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> LOL. At 2 in the morning EVERYTHING I say will be gibberish. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:18 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail Okay if I can call you at 2:00 in the morning when I can't sleep and I need to hear that baby???? ;) Susan H. I could just call you. Half of what I say is gibberish anyway so you might find that just as good. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 14:54:49 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 15:54:49 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne> <000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: On 7/2/07, Susan Harkins wrote: > Whoa... ;) > > You know Bryan, just because you don't see a need for it, doesn't mean some > won't find it useful. :) I've got a grandbaby in Oregon. I would love to > hear have a file of his gibberish that I can replay and vice versa. Of > course, I could send a taped recording, but this seems quick and easy. OK. Point made, but really, why does it need to be integrated into your email? Why not just record an MP3 and attach that? I just see this as another excellent vector for spreading malware via outlook and outlook express, but then again I'm kind of biased against MS and their internet offerings. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 2 15:09:33 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:09:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Message-ID: <380-2200771220933229@M2W021.mail2web.com> So it would seem that an upgrade from 1GB to 2GB RAM would be in order if I want to run 2 VMs. My only real need is for a W2K/A2K confuguration for copmiling and testing. Although I could set up a Linux VM and learn some Linux, yes? Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:50:43 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Rocky, Not that I can answer much anyway, I have gotten VMs up and running but never spent much time playing with them. I don't understand what you are looking for when you say "switching between machines". Physically switching is done using hot keys on the keyboard so it takes just a second or two. The virtual swaps (overhead?) for the software is almost negligible. AFAICT, all virtual machines occupy the 2 GBytes of "program memory" available on the host machine (when using a 32 bit OS as the host). You determine how much memory each virtual machine is going to have in a parameter screen. Thus you could have 4 virtual machines each allocated 500 mb, or two virtual machines each allocated one gigabyte etc. As you can see, the limits of a 32 bit OS is becoming very real in many different areas. Who'd uv thunk that 4 gigs of ram would be too small? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:40 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug sorry...my bad...4GHz Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:23:11 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug But seriously... The last thing I know of that was 4 megahertz was the old PCXTs and none of them ran a P4. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 12:14 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug But seriously... Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:00:50 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Rocky, With a four megahertz P4 it will take... Oh... About 60 minutes to switch between machines. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:56 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug John: How long odes it take to switch between machines (mine is 4MHz P4, 1GB RAM) Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:39:02 -0400 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - MicrosoftR Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on MicrosoftR Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ? Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft? Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 15:10:21 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:10:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne><000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> OK. Point made, but really, why does it need to be integrated into your email? Why not just record an MP3 and attach that? ============Because I don't have an MP3 player? Or if I do, I don't know it. :) I don't even know what that is. You see, not all of us have lots of technical tools and toys. I just see this as another excellent vector for spreading malware via outlook and outlook express, but then again I'm kind of biased against MS and their internet offerings. ============You think this is more dangerous than sending any other attachment? Outlook by default doesn't even download attachments -- you have to jump through a few hoops to download most attachments. As for bias -- for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want an iPhone -- emperor's news clothes and all... ;) They may be super cool, but I'm still in the dark ages -- don't even use a cell phone. :) Susan H. From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 15:13:33 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:13:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <380-2200771220933229@M2W021.mail2web.com> References: <380-2200771220933229@M2W021.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <006101c7bce5$77e382c0$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Can you run more than 2? Susan H. So it would seem that an upgrade from 1GB to 2GB RAM would be in order if I want to run 2 VMs. My only real need is for a W2K/A2K confuguration for copmiling and testing. From JRojas at tnco-inc.com Mon Jul 2 15:44:37 2007 From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:44:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] VMWARE Question for John Colby References: <20070702123912.B8D86BF14@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5775C4F32@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com> Hi John, Do you know which product from VMWare is free? I need to have Win98 running on a VM and would like to use VMWare instead of Microsoft is possible. Joe Rojas Information Technology Manager Symmetry Medical TNCO 15 Colebrook Blvd Whitman MA 02382 781-447-6661 x7506 jrojas at tnco-inc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:39 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 15:56:09 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 15:56:09 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne> <000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: Windows Media Player plays MP3's. you don't have Windows Media Player? I think it is a standard windows component. GK. On 7/2/07, Susan Harkins wrote: > > OK. Point made, but really, why does it need to be integrated into your > email? Why not just record an MP3 and attach that? > > ============Because I don't have an MP3 player? Or if I do, I don't know it. > :) I don't even know what that is. You see, not all of us have lots of > technical tools and toys. > > I just see this as another excellent vector for spreading malware via > outlook and outlook express, but then again I'm kind of biased against MS > and their internet offerings. > > ============You think this is more dangerous than sending any other > attachment? Outlook by default doesn't even download attachments -- you have > to jump through a few hoops to download most attachments. > > As for bias -- for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want > an iPhone -- emperor's news clothes and all... ;) They may be super cool, > but I'm still in the dark ages -- don't even use a cell phone. :) > > Susan H. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Jul 2 16:03:02 2007 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 22:03:02 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne><000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne><005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <001901c7bcec$61325220$0300a8c0@jt2b> Yep, that's right. Plenty of freebies out there too if you don't like WMP. WinAmp is good, and doesn't take over your system like Real Player does, but they're both free, which is a good price :-) I personally use WMP though, does what it says on the tin... Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: 02 July 2007 21:56 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail Windows Media Player plays MP3's. you don't have Windows Media Player? I think it is a standard windows component. GK. On 7/2/07, Susan Harkins wrote: > > OK. Point made, but really, why does it need to be integrated into > your email? Why not just record an MP3 and attach that? > > ============Because I don't have an MP3 player? Or if I do, I don't know it. > :) I don't even know what that is. You see, not all of us have lots of > technical tools and toys. > > I just see this as another excellent vector for spreading malware via > outlook and outlook express, but then again I'm kind of biased against > MS and their internet offerings. > > ============You think this is more dangerous than sending any other > attachment? Outlook by default doesn't even download attachments -- > you have to jump through a few hoops to download most attachments. > > As for bias -- for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would > want an iPhone -- emperor's news clothes and all... ;) They may be > super cool, but I'm still in the dark ages -- don't even use a cell > phone. :) > > Susan H. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Mon Jul 2 16:05:25 2007 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 22:05:25 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <001901c7bcec$61325220$0300a8c0@jt2b> References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne><000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne><005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> , <001901c7bcec$61325220$0300a8c0@jt2b> Message-ID: Today is my first day without a cell phone in years. I give mine to Liam last night and IT IS GREAT! I can WALK down the road in work without the threat of someone ringing me. I can have lunch without someone ringing. I can have coffee - no calls, go for a smoke, no calls. Boss cant ring mew when I am out - no calls. I told the University if they want me to use one they can buy it and pay the bills. Other than that I will be cell phone free from now on. Now if I could only dump the PDA, Tablet PC, Campus Wireless Network, IPod and Laptop (<: Martin Martin Reid Telephone: 02890974465 ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda [jon at tydda.plus.com] Sent: 02 July 2007 22:03 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail Yep, that's right. Plenty of freebies out there too if you don't like WMP. WinAmp is good, and doesn't take over your system like Real Player does, but they're both free, which is a good price :-) I personally use WMP though, does what it says on the tin... Jon From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Jul 2 16:12:28 2007 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 22:12:28 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne><000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne><005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne>, <001901c7bcec$61325220$0300a8c0@jt2b> Message-ID: <001a01c7bced$b341e660$0300a8c0@jt2b> I'd love to give up my mobiles, especially the work one. I really hate being on call. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid Sent: 02 July 2007 22:05 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail Today is my first day without a cell phone in years. I give mine to Liam last night and IT IS GREAT! I can WALK down the road in work without the threat of someone ringing me. I can have lunch without someone ringing. I can have coffee - no calls, go for a smoke, no calls. Boss cant ring mew when I am out - no calls. I told the University if they want me to use one they can buy it and pay the bills. Other than that I will be cell phone free from now on. Now if I could only dump the PDA, Tablet PC, Campus Wireless Network, IPod and Laptop (<: Martin Martin Reid Telephone: 02890974465 ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda [jon at tydda.plus.com] Sent: 02 July 2007 22:03 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail Yep, that's right. Plenty of freebies out there too if you don't like WMP. WinAmp is good, and doesn't take over your system like Real Player does, but they're both free, which is a good price :-) I personally use WMP though, does what it says on the tin... Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 2 16:42:54 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:42:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne><000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne><005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <006501c7bcf1$f36c74e0$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Windows Media Player plays MP3's. you don't have Windows Media Player? I think it is a standard windows component. ========If it's part of Windows, I guess I have it. Susan H. From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Mon Jul 2 16:57:07 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:57:07 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne><000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@Susan One> <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: BTW speaking of malware I was deluged this weekend with spam with pdf files attached. This is new. Anyone aware of any new viruses, worms or other nasties being spread by pdfs? Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:10 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail OK. Point made, but really, why does it need to be integrated into your email? Why not just record an MP3 and attach that? ============Because I don't have an MP3 player? Or if I do, I don't know it. :) I don't even know what that is. You see, not all of us have lots of technical tools and toys. I just see this as another excellent vector for spreading malware via outlook and outlook express, but then again I'm kind of biased against MS and their internet offerings. ============You think this is more dangerous than sending any other attachment? Outlook by default doesn't even download attachments -- you have to jump through a few hoops to download most attachments. As for bias -- for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want an iPhone -- emperor's news clothes and all... ;) They may be super cool, but I'm still in the dark ages -- don't even use a cell phone. :) Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 19:36:17 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:36:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne> <000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> <001901c7bcec$61325220$0300a8c0@jt2b> Message-ID: I just turn off my ringer if I don't want to take calls. Of course I don't get many calls either. GK On 7/2/07, Martin W Reid wrote: > Today is my first day without a cell phone in years. I give mine to Liam last night and IT IS GREAT! I can WALK down the road in work without the threat of someone ringing me. I can have lunch without someone ringing. I can have coffee - no calls, go for a smoke, no calls. Boss cant ring mew when I am out - no calls. I told the University if they want me to use one they can buy it and pay the bills. Other than that I will be cell phone free from now on. > > Now if I could only dump the PDA, Tablet PC, Campus Wireless Network, IPod and Laptop (<: > > Martin > > > Martin Reid > Telephone: 02890974465 > ________________________________________ > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda [jon at tydda.plus.com] > Sent: 02 July 2007 22:03 > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail > > Yep, that's right. Plenty of freebies out there too if you don't like WMP. > WinAmp is good, and doesn't take over your system like Real Player does, but > they're both free, which is a good price :-) > > I personally use WMP though, does what it says on the tin... > > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 2 21:03:54 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 22:03:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug In-Reply-To: <006101c7bce5$77e382c0$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <20070703020406.5E0E2BCFF@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> You can run a dozen I suppose, if you have enough memory and you set the VMs up small enough. You might for some reason want a VM running DOS with 16 mbytes, Windows 95 running 32 mbytes, Windows ME running 128 mbytes, Windows 98 running 128 mbytes, Windows 2K running 256 mbytes and Windows XP running 512 Mbytes. So you would have 6 virtual machines requiring just over 1 gbytes of RAM. All of these virtual machines could be running simultaneously if you have enough RAM on the host machine. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:14 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Can you run more than 2? Susan H. So it would seem that an upgrade from 1GB to 2GB RAM would be in order if I want to run 2 VMs. My only real need is for a W2K/A2K confuguration for copmiling and testing. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 2 21:36:00 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 22:36:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] VMWARE Question for John Colby In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5775C4F32@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com> Message-ID: <20070703023612.3540CBCBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Joe, >Do you know which product from VMWare is free? http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:45 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VMWARE Question for John Colby Hi John, Do you know which product from VMWare is free? I need to have Win98 running on a VM and would like to use VMWare instead of Microsoft is possible. Joe Rojas Information Technology Manager Symmetry Medical TNCO 15 Colebrook Blvd Whitman MA 02382 781-447-6661 x7506 jrojas at tnco-inc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:39 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Susan, Did you know that the VMWare virtual machines thing can CLONE your existing system into a virtual machine. You get everything that you now have, but it is running in a virtual machine. Once you do that you can (for example) install the 2007 office version and test that completely out in a virtual machine. BTW that is all free stuff and more or less point and click "just do it". John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:31 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2007 bug Could someone check the following bug for me? I haven't installed 2007 yet -- can't have it and 2003 on the same system and my husband has my other system tied up right now. If you set Outlook 2007 to check spelling before sending a message, it goes through the motions, but actually sends the errors. This happens only if you are using plain text formatting. You can use plain text, but you must press F7 to run Spell Check instead of relying on the automated option. Both options are in the Options menu -- don't know what group that equates to in 2007 though. Just set both options: check spelling before sending and plain text and then send a message with a typo to yourself. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 3 00:04:26 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:04:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne><000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <251601c7bd2f$a1c8c330$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Hi Jim, I got some of those too. Haven't had a chance to look into yet though. John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail BTW speaking of malware I was deluged this weekend with spam with pdf files attached. This is new. Anyone aware of any new viruses, worms or other nasties being spread by pdfs? Jim Hale From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Tue Jul 3 04:07:23 2007 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:07:23 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne><000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <003201c7bd51$91ac5760$1800a8c0@s1800> got some too. did a bulk shift-delete. I think they might be something like filename.pdf.exe and if you have your windows set to hide the extension it will show as filename.pdf and you think you can open it, but then it executes. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hale, Jim" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail > > BTW speaking of malware I was deluged this weekend with spam with pdf > files attached. This is new. Anyone aware of any new viruses, worms or > other nasties being spread by pdfs? > Jim Hale > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan > Harkins > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:10 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail > > > OK. Point made, but really, why does it need to be integrated into your > email? Why not just record an MP3 and attach that? > > ============Because I don't have an MP3 player? Or if I do, I don't know > it. > :) I don't even know what that is. You see, not all of us have lots of > technical tools and toys. > > I just see this as another excellent vector for spreading malware via > outlook and outlook express, but then again I'm kind of biased against > MS and their internet offerings. > > ============You think this is more dangerous than sending any other > attachment? Outlook by default doesn't even download attachments -- you > have to jump through a few hoops to download most attachments. > > As for bias -- for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would > want an iPhone -- emperor's news clothes and all... ;) They may be super > cool, but I'm still in the dark ages -- don't even use a cell phone. :) > > Susan H. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, > you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any > attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 02.07.2007 > 15:35 > > From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 07:00:45 2007 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:00:45 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne> <000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne> <005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: Hello Susan, This is strange, for some reason, in Ireland, we are phone crazy. I know nobody that does not have a mobile phone, kids from the age of eight to ten also all, (and I really mean well over 90% of the kids) have phones. Every "older person" I know, i.e., 60 plus also has phones. I have experienced that it is not the same in england and Germany, so I am often facincated about why we are so crazy for phones. BTW, I would love an iPhone and am currently attempting to acquire one :) Mark in Ireland On 02/07/07, Susan Harkins wrote: > > > OK. Point made, but really, why does it need to be integrated into your > email? Why not just record an MP3 and attach that? > > ============Because I don't have an MP3 player? Or if I do, I don't know > it. > :) I don't even know what that is. You see, not all of us have lots of > technical tools and toys. > > I just see this as another excellent vector for spreading malware via > outlook and outlook express, but then again I'm kind of biased against MS > and their internet offerings. > > ============You think this is more dangerous than sending any other > attachment? Outlook by default doesn't even download attachments -- you > have > to jump through a few hoops to download most attachments. > > As for bias -- for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want > an iPhone -- emperor's news clothes and all... ;) They may be super cool, > but I'm still in the dark ages -- don't even use a cell phone. :) > > Susan H. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 3 07:09:17 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:09:17 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: <003201c7bd51$91ac5760$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: <20070703120930.A8B7DBD43@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> No they are PDFs. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail got some too. did a bulk shift-delete. I think they might be something like filename.pdf.exe and if you have your windows set to hide the extension it will show as filename.pdf and you think you can open it, but then it executes. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hale, Jim" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail > > BTW speaking of malware I was deluged this weekend with spam with pdf > files attached. This is new. Anyone aware of any new viruses, worms or > other nasties being spread by pdfs? > Jim Hale > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan > Harkins > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:10 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Waxmail > > > OK. Point made, but really, why does it need to be integrated into your > email? Why not just record an MP3 and attach that? > > ============Because I don't have an MP3 player? Or if I do, I don't know > it. > :) I don't even know what that is. You see, not all of us have lots of > technical tools and toys. > > I just see this as another excellent vector for spreading malware via > outlook and outlook express, but then again I'm kind of biased against > MS and their internet offerings. > > ============You think this is more dangerous than sending any other > attachment? Outlook by default doesn't even download attachments -- you > have to jump through a few hoops to download most attachments. > > As for bias -- for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would > want an iPhone -- emperor's news clothes and all... ;) They may be super > cool, but I'm still in the dark ages -- don't even use a cell phone. :) > > Susan H. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, > you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any > attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 02.07.2007 > 15:35 > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at setel.com Tue Jul 3 08:26:42 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:26:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Waxmail In-Reply-To: References: <003501c7bca5$2b6eb5d0$2132fad1@SusanOne><000001c7bccf$16cfae70$93b62ad1@SusanOne><005e01c7bce5$05479b20$93b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <002101c7bd75$d267a6a0$f232fad1@SusanOne> Well, over here, they stood in line over night to buy them -- they're getting the attention of a rock star! ;) I don't get it, but that's Okay. They're also very expensive. We have a cell phone that we keep in the car for emergencies. We don't carry one on us like most people do anymore. Of course, we have a regular land line and we're always home, so I'm not sure there's really much difference. :) Susan H. Hello Susan, This is strange, for some reason, in Ireland, we are phone crazy. I know nobody that does not have a mobile phone, kids from the age of eight to ten also all, (and I really mean well over 90% of the kids) have phones. Every "older person" I know, i.e., 60 plus also has phones. I have experienced that it is not the same in england and Germany, so I am often facincated about why we are so crazy for phones. BTW, I would love an iPhone and am currently attempting to acquire one :) Mark in Ireland On 02/07/07, Susan Harkins wrote: > > > OK. Point made, but really, why does it need to be integrated into > your email? Why not just record an MP3 and attach that? > > ============Because I don't have an MP3 player? Or if I do, I don't > know it. > :) I don't even know what that is. You see, not all of us have lots of > technical tools and toys. > > I just see this as another excellent vector for spreading malware via > outlook and outlook express, but then again I'm kind of biased against > MS and their internet offerings. > > ============You think this is more dangerous than sending any other > attachment? Outlook by default doesn't even download attachments -- > you have to jump through a few hoops to download most attachments. > > As for bias -- for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would > want an iPhone -- emperor's news clothes and all... ;) They may be > super cool, but I'm still in the dark ages -- don't even use a cell > phone. :) > > Susan H. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/873 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 11:54 PM From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 3 18:38:07 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (john at winhaven.net) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:38:07 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Word reveal codes Message-ID: <000d01c7bdcb$36499070$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Someone recently asked about "revealing codes" in Word and I just ran across this so I thought maybe you'd be interested. Not exactly as low level as Word Perfect's reveal codes but it may helpful: Open your document, then select Format, Reveal Formatting (or press Shift-F1), Word will open a pane on the right showing you the precise formatting for the text where your cursor is, or for the current selection if you have more than one thing (word, character, etc.) selected. There's also a checkbox on the pane which toggles all hidden formatting codes on and off. From ssharkins at setel.com Wed Jul 4 08:19:26 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 09:19:26 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question Message-ID: <003301c7be3d$f3407a00$58b62ad1@SusanOne> A reader has asked if there's anyway to display the day's name in Calendar View: Wednesday, July 4. I've checked all the calendar options and looked through Help and I can't find anything. Anyone know if this can be done? Susan H. From john at winhaven.net Thu Jul 5 10:01:07 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:01:07 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question In-Reply-To: <003301c7be3d$f3407a00$58b62ad1@SusanOne> References: <003301c7be3d$f3407a00$58b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <019201c7bf15$520f6eb0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Hi Susan, Which version of Outlook? My Outlook 2003 Calendar has name displayed on each view, there is just a different placement of the day name. In month view its a column at the top, in week view its on the op of each day block. John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 8:19 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question A reader has asked if there's anyway to display the day's name in Calendar View: Wednesday, July 4. I've checked all the calendar options and looked through Help and I can't find anything. Anyone know if this can be done? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Jul 5 10:26:31 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:26:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions Message-ID: I have upgraded from Outlook 2000 to 2003. In 2000 if I opened an email and deleted it the next email would open, a behavior that makes it easy to read threads. In 2003 when I delete the email it dumps me back into the inbox. How can I configure Outlook 2003 to open the next email the same as 2000 did? Also, when I set up my email accounts in 2003 they receive the email from all accounts into one inbox. How do I get Outlook to receive email from separate accounts into separate inboxes? TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Thu Jul 5 10:26:31 2007 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:26:31 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D0163@ALCEXLG1> The first part is easy, that's in tools, options, email options. The first line of that says "After moving or deleting an open item:" and gives you a choice of things to do, open the next item, open the previous item or return to inbox. As for the second, I don't have a copy of 2003 near me, so I can't play to find out. I'll have a look when I get home if no-one's fixed it for you. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:27 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions I have upgraded from Outlook 2000 to 2003. In 2000 if I opened an email and deleted it the next email would open, a behavior that makes it easy to read threads. In 2003 when I delete the email it dumps me back into the inbox. How can I configure Outlook 2003 to open the next email the same as 2000 did? Also, when I set up my email accounts in 2003 they receive the email from all accounts into one inbox. How do I get Outlook to receive email from separate accounts into separate inboxes? TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 5 11:00:47 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:00:47 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions Message-ID: <380-22007745160477@M2W030.mail2web.com> Jim: Can you set up separate folders for each account and use rules to sort the mail by 'To' containing the email address? Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: Jon Tydda Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:26:31 +0100 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions The first part is easy, that's in tools, options, email options. The first line of that says "After moving or deleting an open item:" and gives you a choice of things to do, open the next item, open the previous item or return to inbox. As for the second, I don't have a copy of 2003 near me, so I can't play to find out. I'll have a look when I get home if no-one's fixed it for you. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:27 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions I have upgraded from Outlook 2000 to 2003. In 2000 if I opened an email and deleted it the next email would open, a behavior that makes it easy to read threads. In 2003 when I delete the email it dumps me back into the inbox. How can I configure Outlook 2003 to open the next email the same as 2000 did? Also, when I set up my email accounts in 2003 they receive the email from all accounts into one inbox. How do I get Outlook to receive email from separate accounts into separate inboxes? TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ? Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft? Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Jul 5 11:25:03 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:25:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D0163@ALCEXLG1> References: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D0163@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: Thanks! I get lost in those menus and never would have found it withoout your help. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:27 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions The first part is easy, that's in tools, options, email options. The first line of that says "After moving or deleting an open item:" and gives you a choice of things to do, open the next item, open the previous item or return to inbox. As for the second, I don't have a copy of 2003 near me, so I can't play to find out. I'll have a look when I get home if no-one's fixed it for you. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:27 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions I have upgraded from Outlook 2000 to 2003. In 2000 if I opened an email and deleted it the next email would open, a behavior that makes it easy to read threads. In 2003 when I delete the email it dumps me back into the inbox. How can I configure Outlook 2003 to open the next email the same as 2000 did? Also, when I set up my email accounts in 2003 they receive the email from all accounts into one inbox. How do I get Outlook to receive email from separate accounts into separate inboxes? TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Jul 5 11:26:42 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:26:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions In-Reply-To: <380-22007745160477@M2W030.mail2web.com> References: <380-22007745160477@M2W030.mail2web.com> Message-ID: I think so, but I know in 2000 I had separate inboxes for each account so I'm thinking there should be a way to do the same in 2003. Jim way -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:01 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 questions Jim: Can you set up separate folders for each account and use rules to sort the mail by 'To' containing the email address? Rocky *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Jul 5 11:54:51 2007 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:54:51 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Global Tracking security chip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0JKP003ZATFMNDU4@l-daemon> Hi All: Has anyone heard of or used Global Tracking Security chips. A potential client is asking about information on this as they will be putting on an art show where there are many irreplaceable pieces that will be displayed. MTIA Jim From ssharkins at setel.com Thu Jul 5 17:43:42 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:43:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ghost links in Excel Message-ID: <001001c7bf55$f097e400$7432fad1@SusanOne> Any of you have experience with ghost links in Excel -- links that are no longer live but that Excel says are still hanging around? I know how to get rid of them, I'm just wondering if these phantom links really bother anything? Susan H. From ssharkins at setel.com Fri Jul 6 08:07:50 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:07:50 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question In-Reply-To: <019201c7bf15$520f6eb0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <003301c7be3d$f3407a00$58b62ad1@SusanOne> <019201c7bf15$520f6eb0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <005901c7bfce$b5dbaf30$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> Good question and I'm sorry I wasn't more specific. In Week view, this reader's layout isn't displaying the day at the top of each day. He's getting 03 July 04 July I get Monday, July 02, Tuesday, July 03, and so on. I haven't been able to find an option for changing this -- I'm sure it's there. Susan H. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:01 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question Hi Susan, Which version of Outlook? My Outlook 2003 Calendar has name displayed on each view, there is just a different placement of the day name. In month view its a column at the top, in week view its on the op of each day block. John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 8:19 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question A reader has asked if there's anyway to display the day's name in Calendar View: Wednesday, July 4. I've checked all the calendar options and looked through Help and I can't find anything. Anyone know if this can be done? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/882 - Release Date: 6/30/2007 3:10 PM From erbachs at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 08:16:56 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:16:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton Message-ID: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> Dear Group, I've been looking at a laptop that belongs to the daughter of a friend of mine. I was asked to look at two main things: 1) the DVD player/recorder doesn't do what it's supposed to do any more; 2) the Office suite doesn't work I treated the laptop as if it were infected with viruses and spyware at first and found, remarkably, that the owner had done a decent job of keeping things up-to-date and clean. So I tackled the problems head-on. I think that the DVD issue will have to be resolved by purchasing one of the commercial DVD decoders, InterVideo or whatever. The DVD will play music CDs and will record data CDs, but it pops up a "missing decoder" message in Windows Media Player when trying to play a DVD. OK. That's the end of THAT trail. Office, I thought, would be a no-brainer after I saw that the owner had not gone through the activation process yet. You know, the 50-use limit. I activated Office and then made sure that she was set up for Microsoft Update instead of just Windows Update. Her system downloaded a bunch of upgrades for Office 2003 and now it's up-to-date. Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint all work like they're supposed to. But not Word. During the Office upgrade process there were a couple of times when I opened Word documents successfully. But now the Word splash screen appears and just hangs there forever. When I go to terminate the task in Task Manager, Word shows as "Running". Then when I try to re-start Word, it asks me if I want to start it in "Safe" mode. Safe mode works. This, of course, isn't Windows Safe Mode that I have to start using F8 during the POST...it's a "Safe" mode I never encountered before that seems specific to Word. To back up a bit...while I was treating the laptop as if it were infected with spyware and such, I found that the owner had installed McAfee anti-virus along with Norton Internet Security. The laptop ran slowly, I thought, on startup. It took quite a few minutes before all the system tray programs were running and then, finally, I'd see the Norton Internet Security (NIS) icon snuggled up against the System Tray by itself. So I figured that maybe there was some conflict between McAfee and Norton. One other factor is that the eval period for NIS is over and Norton was alerting the user to subscribe. So I decided to disable all the Symantec stuff. I went to Computer Management and found all the Symantec Services and disabled them. Now the laptop seemed to start faster and I thought I was getting somewhere. But then I tried to get Word working. That's when it began to hang on the splash screen. I downloaded and ran SysInternals Process Explorer and found that when Word fired up it spawned a "sub-process" running "underneath" it: NAVW32.EXE, a Norton anti-virus process. I could not terminate the Norton process. I could terminate Word, of course, but the Norton process stayed active; then Word would ask to start in Safe mode the next time. I then decided to un-install Norton since its trial period had expired anyway. The uninstall process failed. I then said the heck with it and downloaded the Norton Removal Tool. I ran the NRT and ... nothing. I'm familiar with how it looks as I'd run it on my own workstation a day or two earlier to get rid of Norton Utilities 2006. I ran it again and still nothing. Again. Nothing. I looked in Sysinternals Process Explorer and saw THREE NRT processes running, taking up 68 KB each, but no I/O and no CPU cycles. I am now officially stumped. I can't un-install Norton and the Norton Removal Tool doesn't work. Any ideas as to what might be happening here? Registry corruption? Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 08:19:16 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:19:16 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question In-Reply-To: <005901c7bfce$b5dbaf30$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> References: <003301c7be3d$f3407a00$58b62ad1@SusanOne> <019201c7bf15$520f6eb0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <005901c7bfce$b5dbaf30$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: On 7/6/07, Susan Harkins wrote: > Good question and I'm sorry I wasn't more specific. > > In Week view, this reader's layout isn't displaying the day at the top of > each day. He's getting > > 03 July > 04 July > > I get Monday, July 02, Tuesday, July 03, and so on. > > I haven't been able to find an option for changing this -- I'm sure it's > there. That sounds like it may be a windows setting issue. Probably different time settings in windows. Check in Regional and Language Options in the Control Panel. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From ssharkins at setel.com Fri Jul 6 08:23:13 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:23:13 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question In-Reply-To: <005901c7bfce$b5dbaf30$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> References: <003301c7be3d$f3407a00$58b62ad1@SusanOne><019201c7bf15$520f6eb0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <005901c7bfce$b5dbaf30$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <006001c7bfd0$cf091450$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> I also think this might be an international issue -- I've asked him what his international setting is. Susan H. Good question and I'm sorry I wasn't more specific. In Week view, this reader's layout isn't displaying the day at the top of each day. He's getting 03 July 04 July I get Monday, July 02, Tuesday, July 03, and so on. I haven't been able to find an option for changing this -- I'm sure it's there. Susan H. From ssharkins at setel.com Fri Jul 6 08:26:44 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:26:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question In-Reply-To: References: <003301c7be3d$f3407a00$58b62ad1@SusanOne><019201c7bf15$520f6eb0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><005901c7bfce$b5dbaf30$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <006401c7bfd1$4c6906d0$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> Bryan, after seeing his settings (he sent me a screen shot), that's what I've decided too -- I've asked him to check that but haven't heard back yet. Susan H. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:19 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question On 7/6/07, Susan Harkins wrote: > Good question and I'm sorry I wasn't more specific. > > In Week view, this reader's layout isn't displaying the day at the top > of each day. He's getting > > 03 July > 04 July > > I get Monday, July 02, Tuesday, July 03, and so on. > > I haven't been able to find an option for changing this -- I'm sure > it's there. That sounds like it may be a windows setting issue. Probably different time settings in windows. Check in Regional and Language Options in the Control Panel. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/882 - Release Date: 6/30/2007 3:10 PM From carbonnb at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 08:32:07 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:32:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question In-Reply-To: <006401c7bfd1$4c6906d0$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> References: <003301c7be3d$f3407a00$58b62ad1@SusanOne> <019201c7bf15$520f6eb0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <005901c7bfce$b5dbaf30$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> <006401c7bfd1$4c6906d0$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: On 7/6/07, Susan Harkins wrote: > Bryan, after seeing his settings (he sent me a screen shot), that's what > I've decided too -- I've asked him to check that but haven't heard back yet. I should have also added that this is just a WAG, since I don't use Outlook. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Jul 6 08:51:30 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:51:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> LOL, I HATE Norton, for exactly this kind of crap. I can tell you that in order to uninstall I had to actually call their tech support (which was a SEVERAL HOUR runaround with the least knowledgeable bunch of yahoos you can imagine), INSISTING that I be bumped up the food chain until I finally found the one person in their entire organization who actually knew anything at all. And of course I no longer use Norton, and I actively recommend that others avoid it like the plague, which in fact it has become. As for your particular problem... I think you are in for a long and tedious "search the web for answers". See if you can find any Norton related services started, and shut them down. Find EVERYTHING that you can on the disk Norton related and try to delete those directories. Boot into safe mode (so the Norton stuff does not load) and delete the actual directories. I use Registry Mechanic to then clean up registry pointers to non-existing directories etc. Good luck on that, and I hope to see you again on our forums before you die. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton Dear Group, I've been looking at a laptop that belongs to the daughter of a friend of mine. I was asked to look at two main things: 1) the DVD player/recorder doesn't do what it's supposed to do any more; 2) the Office suite doesn't work I treated the laptop as if it were infected with viruses and spyware at first and found, remarkably, that the owner had done a decent job of keeping things up-to-date and clean. So I tackled the problems head-on. I think that the DVD issue will have to be resolved by purchasing one of the commercial DVD decoders, InterVideo or whatever. The DVD will play music CDs and will record data CDs, but it pops up a "missing decoder" message in Windows Media Player when trying to play a DVD. OK. That's the end of THAT trail. Office, I thought, would be a no-brainer after I saw that the owner had not gone through the activation process yet. You know, the 50-use limit. I activated Office and then made sure that she was set up for Microsoft Update instead of just Windows Update. Her system downloaded a bunch of upgrades for Office 2003 and now it's up-to-date. Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint all work like they're supposed to. But not Word. During the Office upgrade process there were a couple of times when I opened Word documents successfully. But now the Word splash screen appears and just hangs there forever. When I go to terminate the task in Task Manager, Word shows as "Running". Then when I try to re-start Word, it asks me if I want to start it in "Safe" mode. Safe mode works. This, of course, isn't Windows Safe Mode that I have to start using F8 during the POST...it's a "Safe" mode I never encountered before that seems specific to Word. To back up a bit...while I was treating the laptop as if it were infected with spyware and such, I found that the owner had installed McAfee anti-virus along with Norton Internet Security. The laptop ran slowly, I thought, on startup. It took quite a few minutes before all the system tray programs were running and then, finally, I'd see the Norton Internet Security (NIS) icon snuggled up against the System Tray by itself. So I figured that maybe there was some conflict between McAfee and Norton. One other factor is that the eval period for NIS is over and Norton was alerting the user to subscribe. So I decided to disable all the Symantec stuff. I went to Computer Management and found all the Symantec Services and disabled them. Now the laptop seemed to start faster and I thought I was getting somewhere. But then I tried to get Word working. That's when it began to hang on the splash screen. I downloaded and ran SysInternals Process Explorer and found that when Word fired up it spawned a "sub-process" running "underneath" it: NAVW32.EXE, a Norton anti-virus process. I could not terminate the Norton process. I could terminate Word, of course, but the Norton process stayed active; then Word would ask to start in Safe mode the next time. I then decided to un-install Norton since its trial period had expired anyway. The uninstall process failed. I then said the heck with it and downloaded the Norton Removal Tool. I ran the NRT and ... nothing. I'm familiar with how it looks as I'd run it on my own workstation a day or two earlier to get rid of Norton Utilities 2006. I ran it again and still nothing. Again. Nothing. I looked in Sysinternals Process Explorer and saw THREE NRT processes running, taking up 68 KB each, but no I/O and no CPU cycles. I am now officially stumped. I can't un-install Norton and the Norton Removal Tool doesn't work. Any ideas as to what might be happening here? Registry corruption? Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Fri Jul 6 09:01:34 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:01:34 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ghost links in Excel In-Reply-To: <001001c7bf55$f097e400$7432fad1@SusanOne> References: <001001c7bf55$f097e400$7432fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: They are annoying but I've never had them cause me problems. There is an add in that has been around forever that can be used to find and delete undesired links. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:44 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Ghost links in Excel Any of you have experience with ghost links in Excel -- links that are no longer live but that Excel says are still hanging around? I know how to get rid of them, I'm just wondering if these phantom links really bother anything? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Fri Jul 6 09:08:46 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:08:46 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: And if all else fails I know a priest who still does exorcisms:-(. I have gotten rid of Norton on my machines as the hassle became greater than the value. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 8:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton LOL, I HATE Norton, for exactly this kind of crap. I can tell you that in order to uninstall I had to actually call their tech support (which was a SEVERAL HOUR runaround with the least knowledgeable bunch of yahoos you can imagine), INSISTING that I be bumped up the food chain until I finally found the one person in their entire organization who actually knew anything at all. And of course I no longer use Norton, and I actively recommend that others avoid it like the plague, which in fact it has become. As for your particular problem... I think you are in for a long and tedious "search the web for answers". See if you can find any Norton related services started, and shut them down. Find EVERYTHING that you can on the disk Norton related and try to delete those directories. Boot into safe mode (so the Norton stuff does not load) and delete the actual directories. I use Registry Mechanic to then clean up registry pointers to non-existing directories etc. Good luck on that, and I hope to see you again on our forums before you die. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton Dear Group, I've been looking at a laptop that belongs to the daughter of a friend of mine. I was asked to look at two main things: 1) the DVD player/recorder doesn't do what it's supposed to do any more; 2) the Office suite doesn't work I treated the laptop as if it were infected with viruses and spyware at first and found, remarkably, that the owner had done a decent job of keeping things up-to-date and clean. So I tackled the problems head-on. I think that the DVD issue will have to be resolved by purchasing one of the commercial DVD decoders, InterVideo or whatever. The DVD will play music CDs and will record data CDs, but it pops up a "missing decoder" message in Windows Media Player when trying to play a DVD. OK. That's the end of THAT trail. Office, I thought, would be a no-brainer after I saw that the owner had not gone through the activation process yet. You know, the 50-use limit. I activated Office and then made sure that she was set up for Microsoft Update instead of just Windows Update. Her system downloaded a bunch of upgrades for Office 2003 and now it's up-to-date. Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint all work like they're supposed to. But not Word. During the Office upgrade process there were a couple of times when I opened Word documents successfully. But now the Word splash screen appears and just hangs there forever. When I go to terminate the task in Task Manager, Word shows as "Running". Then when I try to re-start Word, it asks me if I want to start it in "Safe" mode. Safe mode works. This, of course, isn't Windows Safe Mode that I have to start using F8 during the POST...it's a "Safe" mode I never encountered before that seems specific to Word. To back up a bit...while I was treating the laptop as if it were infected with spyware and such, I found that the owner had installed McAfee anti-virus along with Norton Internet Security. The laptop ran slowly, I thought, on startup. It took quite a few minutes before all the system tray programs were running and then, finally, I'd see the Norton Internet Security (NIS) icon snuggled up against the System Tray by itself. So I figured that maybe there was some conflict between McAfee and Norton. One other factor is that the eval period for NIS is over and Norton was alerting the user to subscribe. So I decided to disable all the Symantec stuff. I went to Computer Management and found all the Symantec Services and disabled them. Now the laptop seemed to start faster and I thought I was getting somewhere. But then I tried to get Word working. That's when it began to hang on the splash screen. I downloaded and ran SysInternals Process Explorer and found that when Word fired up it spawned a "sub-process" running "underneath" it: NAVW32.EXE, a Norton anti-virus process. I could not terminate the Norton process. I could terminate Word, of course, but the Norton process stayed active; then Word would ask to start in Safe mode the next time. I then decided to un-install Norton since its trial period had expired anyway. The uninstall process failed. I then said the heck with it and downloaded the Norton Removal Tool. I ran the NRT and ... nothing. I'm familiar with how it looks as I'd run it on my own workstation a day or two earlier to get rid of Norton Utilities 2006. I ran it again and still nothing. Again. Nothing. I looked in Sysinternals Process Explorer and saw THREE NRT processes running, taking up 68 KB each, but no I/O and no CPU cycles. I am now officially stumped. I can't un-install Norton and the Norton Removal Tool doesn't work. Any ideas as to what might be happening here? Registry corruption? Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From erbachs at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 10:40:25 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:40:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707060840v15d6afe7jeef8d70c5848019e@mail.gmail.com> John, ? Good luck on that, and I hope to see you again on our forums before you die. ;-) ? Arf! Arf! I have this picture in my mind now of a Gahan Wilson-like cartoon of my crumbling, cobweb covered skeleton poised over this laptop with a hundred "Not Responding" messages strewn all over the screen... Thanks for the encouragement. I've rid our own PCs here at home of all Norton stuff, but this friend's laptop is going to be ugly. Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On 7/6/07, jwcolby wrote: > LOL, I HATE Norton, for exactly this kind of crap. I can tell you that in > order to uninstall I had to actually call their tech support (which was a > SEVERAL HOUR runaround with the least knowledgeable bunch of yahoos you can > imagine), INSISTING that I be bumped up the food chain until I finally found > the one person in their entire organization who actually knew anything at > all. > > And of course I no longer use Norton, and I actively recommend that others > avoid it like the plague, which in fact it has become. > > As for your particular problem... I think you are in for a long and tedious > "search the web for answers". See if you can find any Norton related > services started, and shut them down. Find EVERYTHING that you can on the > disk Norton related and try to delete those directories. Boot into safe > mode (so the Norton stuff does not load) and delete the actual directories. > I use Registry Mechanic to then clean up registry pointers to non-existing > directories etc. > > Good luck on that, and I hope to see you again on our forums before you die. > ;-) > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com From erbachs at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 10:42:08 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:42:08 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707060842q7d44dddbgd8d50b6456492067@mail.gmail.com> Jim, William Peter Blatty's new novel: The Norton Exorcist. Coming soon to a theater near you! Steve Erbach On 7/6/07, Hale, Jim wrote: > > And if all else fails I know a priest who still does exorcisms:-(. I > have gotten rid of Norton on my machines as the hassle became greater > than the value. > Jim Hale > From ssharkins at setel.com Fri Jul 6 12:20:32 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:20:32 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook Calendar Display Question In-Reply-To: References: <003301c7be3d$f3407a00$58b62ad1@SusanOne><019201c7bf15$520f6eb0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><005901c7bfce$b5dbaf30$d1b82ad1@SusanOne><006401c7bfd1$4c6906d0$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <008601c7bff1$f6005930$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> But that was it -- he's using English (South African) -- I checked it myself and it doesn't include the day's name. Susan H. I should have also added that this is just a WAG, since I don't use Outlook. -- From garykjos at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 12:21:25 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:21:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30707060840v15d6afe7jeef8d70c5848019e@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707060840v15d6afe7jeef8d70c5848019e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well if it's just been reloaded, perhaps that is what to do again.....start over and reload it without the nasties. Perhaps. GK On 7/6/07, Steve Erbach wrote: > John, > > ? Good luck on that, and I hope to see you again on our forums before you die. > ;-) ? > > Arf! Arf! I have this picture in my mind now of a Gahan Wilson-like > cartoon of my crumbling, cobweb covered skeleton poised over this > laptop with a hundred "Not Responding" messages strewn all over the > screen... > > Thanks for the encouragement. I've rid our own PCs here at home of > all Norton stuff, but this friend's laptop is going to be ugly. > > Steve Erbach > Neenah, WI -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From ssharkins at setel.com Fri Jul 6 12:22:19 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:22:19 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ghost links in Excel In-Reply-To: References: <001001c7bf55$f097e400$7432fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <008c01c7bff2$35953430$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> Offered by MS? I can't seem to create one. I was going to write about them -- just a short thing, but if I can't create one myself, can't help thinking it isn't a big problem. Susan H. They are annoying but I've never had them cause me problems. There is an add in that has been around forever that can be used to find and delete undesired links. From erbachs at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 12:36:15 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:36:15 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707060840v15d6afe7jeef8d70c5848019e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707061036x75b25a52wba98317b06693b9f@mail.gmail.com> Gary, I've already spent a dozen hours on this silly thing over the past week. I remember now, very clearly, why I never went into the hardware configuration and installation end of the confuser biz. Steve Erbach On 7/6/07, Gary Kjos wrote: > Well if it's just been reloaded, perhaps that is what to do > again.....start over and reload it without the nasties. Perhaps. > > GK > > On 7/6/07, Steve Erbach wrote: > > John, > > > > ? Good luck on that, and I hope to see you again on our forums before you die. > > ;-) ? > > > > Arf! Arf! I have this picture in my mind now of a Gahan Wilson-like > > cartoon of my crumbling, cobweb covered skeleton poised over this > > laptop with a hundred "Not Responding" messages strewn all over the > > screen... > > > > Thanks for the encouragement. I've rid our own PCs here at home of > > all Norton stuff, but this friend's laptop is going to be ugly. > > > > Steve Erbach > > Neenah, WI From erbachs at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 12:51:38 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:51:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> John, Well, I pulled Norton Internet Security out like a weed. I downloaded Registry Mechanic and let it do its free-version work...I'll advise the owner to buy the full program to clear up the remaining issues...but at least Word works! I can open any document and the built-in virus scan runs (presumably McAfee now that Norton has been ripped out), and voil?! There's the document! That was kinda fun, actually, destroying a software installation in Safe Mode. I hope that the .NET-style of application gains more currency. I'm really rather tired of the registry. Steve Erbach On 7/6/07, jwcolby wrote: > LOL, I HATE Norton, for exactly this kind of crap. I can tell you that in > order to uninstall I had to actually call their tech support (which was a > SEVERAL HOUR runaround with the least knowledgeable bunch of yahoos you can > imagine), INSISTING that I be bumped up the food chain until I finally found > the one person in their entire organization who actually knew anything at > all. > > And of course I no longer use Norton, and I actively recommend that others > avoid it like the plague, which in fact it has become. > > As for your particular problem... I think you are in for a long and tedious > "search the web for answers". See if you can find any Norton related > services started, and shut them down. Find EVERYTHING that you can on the > disk Norton related and try to delete those directories. Boot into safe > mode (so the Norton stuff does not load) and delete the actual directories. > I use Registry Mechanic to then clean up registry pointers to non-existing > directories etc. > > Good luck on that, and I hope to see you again on our forums before you die. > ;-) > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com From garykjos at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 13:34:52 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:34:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yea! Good job Steve! GK On 7/6/07, Steve Erbach wrote: > John, > > Well, I pulled Norton Internet Security out like a weed. I downloaded > Registry Mechanic and let it do its free-version work...I'll advise > the owner to buy the full program to clear up the remaining > issues...but at least Word works! I can open any document and the > built-in virus scan runs (presumably McAfee now that Norton has been > ripped out), and voil?! There's the document! > > That was kinda fun, actually, destroying a software installation in > Safe Mode. I hope that the .NET-style of application gains more > currency. I'm really rather tired of the registry. > > Steve Erbach > > On 7/6/07, jwcolby wrote: > > LOL, I HATE Norton, for exactly this kind of crap. I can tell you that in > > order to uninstall I had to actually call their tech support (which was a > > SEVERAL HOUR runaround with the least knowledgeable bunch of yahoos you can > > imagine), INSISTING that I be bumped up the food chain until I finally found > > the one person in their entire organization who actually knew anything at > > all. > > > > And of course I no longer use Norton, and I actively recommend that others > > avoid it like the plague, which in fact it has become. > > > > As for your particular problem... I think you are in for a long and tedious > > "search the web for answers". See if you can find any Norton related > > services started, and shut them down. Find EVERYTHING that you can on the > > disk Norton related and try to delete those directories. Boot into safe > > mode (so the Norton stuff does not load) and delete the actual directories. > > I use Registry Mechanic to then clean up registry pointers to non-existing > > directories etc. > > > > Good luck on that, and I hope to see you again on our forums before you die. > > ;-) > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From pharold at proftesting.com Fri Jul 6 14:46:49 2007 From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry L Harold) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 15:46:49 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00F5FCB4F80FDB4EB03FBAAEAD97CEAD03D21A@EXCHANGE.ptiorl.local> Norton had(s) an add-in for Word that if it wasn't removed before Norton was un-installed would cause Word to hang and not run. It wouldn't uninstall on it's own. I remember fixing it but it took several tries and a couple days. I think I had to reinstall NAV and then remove the add-in then uninstall Norton and it cleared. Perry Harold Professional Testing Inc -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton Dear Group, I've been looking at a laptop that belongs to the daughter of a friend of mine. I was asked to look at two main things: 1) the DVD player/recorder doesn't do what it's supposed to do any more; 2) the Office suite doesn't work I treated the laptop as if it were infected with viruses and spyware at first and found, remarkably, that the owner had done a decent job of keeping things up-to-date and clean. So I tackled the problems head-on. I think that the DVD issue will have to be resolved by purchasing one of the commercial DVD decoders, InterVideo or whatever. The DVD will play music CDs and will record data CDs, but it pops up a "missing decoder" message in Windows Media Player when trying to play a DVD. OK. That's the end of THAT trail. Office, I thought, would be a no-brainer after I saw that the owner had not gone through the activation process yet. You know, the 50-use limit. I activated Office and then made sure that she was set up for Microsoft Update instead of just Windows Update. Her system downloaded a bunch of upgrades for Office 2003 and now it's up-to-date. Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint all work like they're supposed to. But not Word. During the Office upgrade process there were a couple of times when I opened Word documents successfully. But now the Word splash screen appears and just hangs there forever. When I go to terminate the task in Task Manager, Word shows as "Running". Then when I try to re-start Word, it asks me if I want to start it in "Safe" mode. Safe mode works. This, of course, isn't Windows Safe Mode that I have to start using F8 during the POST...it's a "Safe" mode I never encountered before that seems specific to Word. To back up a bit...while I was treating the laptop as if it were infected with spyware and such, I found that the owner had installed McAfee anti-virus along with Norton Internet Security. The laptop ran slowly, I thought, on startup. It took quite a few minutes before all the system tray programs were running and then, finally, I'd see the Norton Internet Security (NIS) icon snuggled up against the System Tray by itself. So I figured that maybe there was some conflict between McAfee and Norton. One other factor is that the eval period for NIS is over and Norton was alerting the user to subscribe. So I decided to disable all the Symantec stuff. I went to Computer Management and found all the Symantec Services and disabled them. Now the laptop seemed to start faster and I thought I was getting somewhere. But then I tried to get Word working. That's when it began to hang on the splash screen. I downloaded and ran SysInternals Process Explorer and found that when Word fired up it spawned a "sub-process" running "underneath" it: NAVW32.EXE, a Norton anti-virus process. I could not terminate the Norton process. I could terminate Word, of course, but the Norton process stayed active; then Word would ask to start in Safe mode the next time. I then decided to un-install Norton since its trial period had expired anyway. The uninstall process failed. I then said the heck with it and downloaded the Norton Removal Tool. I ran the NRT and ... nothing. I'm familiar with how it looks as I'd run it on my own workstation a day or two earlier to get rid of Norton Utilities 2006. I ran it again and still nothing. Again. Nothing. I looked in Sysinternals Process Explorer and saw THREE NRT processes running, taking up 68 KB each, but no I/O and no CPU cycles. I am now officially stumped. I can't un-install Norton and the Norton Removal Tool doesn't work. Any ideas as to what might be happening here? Registry corruption? Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Jul 6 14:54:15 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 15:54:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Congrats. It makes you look like a hero too! ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:52 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton John, Well, I pulled Norton Internet Security out like a weed. I downloaded Registry Mechanic and let it do its free-version work...I'll advise the owner to buy the full program to clear up the remaining issues...but at least Word works! I can open any document and the built-in virus scan runs (presumably McAfee now that Norton has been ripped out), and voil?! There's the document! That was kinda fun, actually, destroying a software installation in Safe Mode. I hope that the .NET-style of application gains more currency. I'm really rather tired of the registry. Steve Erbach On 7/6/07, jwcolby wrote: > LOL, I HATE Norton, for exactly this kind of crap. I can tell you > that in order to uninstall I had to actually call their tech support > (which was a SEVERAL HOUR runaround with the least knowledgeable bunch > of yahoos you can imagine), INSISTING that I be bumped up the food > chain until I finally found the one person in their entire > organization who actually knew anything at all. > > And of course I no longer use Norton, and I actively recommend that > others avoid it like the plague, which in fact it has become. > > As for your particular problem... I think you are in for a long and > tedious "search the web for answers". See if you can find any Norton > related services started, and shut them down. Find EVERYTHING that > you can on the disk Norton related and try to delete those > directories. Boot into safe mode (so the Norton stuff does not load) and delete the actual directories. > I use Registry Mechanic to then clean up registry pointers to > non-existing directories etc. > > Good luck on that, and I hope to see you again on our forums before you die. > ;-) > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Fri Jul 6 15:56:47 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 15:56:47 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ghost links in Excel In-Reply-To: <008c01c7bff2$35953430$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> References: <001001c7bf55$f097e400$7432fad1@SusanOne> <008c01c7bff2$35953430$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188449 This wizard has been around since office 97. I believe it will work with 1997, 2000, 2003. I don't know about 2007 Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:22 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Ghost links in Excel Offered by MS? I can't seem to create one. I was going to write about them -- just a short thing, but if I can't create one myself, can't help thinking it isn't a big problem. Susan H. They are annoying but I've never had them cause me problems. There is an add in that has been around forever that can be used to find and delete undesired links. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From erbachs at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 07:32:47 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 07:32:47 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <00F5FCB4F80FDB4EB03FBAAEAD97CEAD03D21A@EXCHANGE.ptiorl.local> References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <00F5FCB4F80FDB4EB03FBAAEAD97CEAD03D21A@EXCHANGE.ptiorl.local> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707070532s709df071w925e2e13bc2280f@mail.gmail.com> Perry, Interesting. That's definitely the behavior I saw...and NAVW32.EXE was running as a "sub-task" (I don't know how else to refer to it) in Process Explorer under WINWORD.EXE. I had been trying simply to disable the Norton services using the Windows Computer Management tool and to disable the Startup Norton programs using WinPatrol. That was enough to get Word to hang as you described, it appears. I guess I got lucky going into Windows Safe Mode and doing the slash-and-burn on anything Norton. Steve Erbach On 7/6/07, Perry L Harold wrote: > Norton had(s) an add-in for Word that if it wasn't removed before Norton > was un-installed would cause Word to hang and not run. It wouldn't > uninstall on it's own. I remember fixing it but it took several tries > and a couple days. I think I had to reinstall NAV and then remove the > add-in then uninstall Norton and it cleared. > > > Perry Harold > Professional Testing Inc > From erbachs at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 07:37:55 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 07:37:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> <20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> John, Hero, schmero, I've had the laptop now for 9 days! Sheesh! What kind of "expert" takes 9 days to fix something...and I still didn't get that DVD to work. Ah, me. I can certainly urge my friend's daughter to retain all CDs that come with the laptop in any future laptop acquisitions. And maybe I'll quietly withdraw from the field of "fixing" PCs that have software problems. My god! It's too much. Steve Erbach On 7/6/07, jwcolby wrote: > Congrats. It makes you look like a hero too! ;-) > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting From erbachs at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 07:39:32 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 07:39:32 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707070539w6bb2095cm6d7208f052bf283d@mail.gmail.com> Gary, Thanks. It doesn't make me look more kindly on future requests to "fix" other PCs, though. There are too many things that can go wrong and I don't have the money to buy all the tools necessary. Steve Erbach On 7/6/07, Gary Kjos wrote: > Yea! Good job Steve! > > GK > > On 7/6/07, Steve Erbach wrote: > > John, > > > > Well, I pulled Norton Internet Security out like a weed. I downloaded > > Registry Mechanic and let it do its free-version work...I'll advise > > the owner to buy the full program to clear up the remaining > > issues...but at least Word works! I can open any document and the > > built-in virus scan runs (presumably McAfee now that Norton has been > > ripped out), and voil?! There's the document! > > > > That was kinda fun, actually, destroying a software installation in > > Safe Mode. I hope that the .NET-style of application gains more > > currency. I'm really rather tired of the registry. > > > > Steve Erbach From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Jul 7 07:55:24 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 08:55:24 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070707125545.7FB9CBD46@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Steve, Back in the 80s I fixed stuff - back then down to the chip level with schematics, o'scopes and soldering irons. It was interesting but not a particularly high paying job. Today it is more "swap boards" and VERY low paying. Troubleshooting software problems is much more complex though just because of the shear complexity of the various pieces and their interactions. Trying to do that as a business is tough. If people pay $500 for a machine, they cannot understand how you can charge them $60 / hour for 5 hours to run down some devilish problem. And that is why I became a programmer. Not enough of them, more demand than supply, and yet still that fascinating "solving a puzzle" environment. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 8:38 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton John, Hero, schmero, I've had the laptop now for 9 days! Sheesh! What kind of "expert" takes 9 days to fix something...and I still didn't get that DVD to work. Ah, me. I can certainly urge my friend's daughter to retain all CDs that come with the laptop in any future laptop acquisitions. And maybe I'll quietly withdraw from the field of "fixing" PCs that have software problems. My god! It's too much. Steve Erbach On 7/6/07, jwcolby wrote: > Congrats. It makes you look like a hero too! ;-) > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Sat Jul 7 10:23:56 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 10:23:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com><20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Steve, Have you checked the hardware driver for the DVD under Device Manager? You should be able to uninstall the device and it should be found and reinstalled on next boot up (or run the add hardware applet). If its a matter of having the software to burn DVDs that a different issue. The manufacturer should have a download area for the software that came with the computer. Otherwise someone here may be able to email a copy of it to you if they have the same brand. John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:38 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton John, Hero, schmero, I've had the laptop now for 9 days! Sheesh! What kind of "expert" takes 9 days to fix something...and I still didn't get that DVD to work. Ah, me. I can certainly urge my friend's daughter to retain all CDs that come with the laptop in any future laptop acquisitions. And maybe I'll quietly withdraw from the field of "fixing" PCs that have software problems. My god! It's too much. Steve Erbach On 7/6/07, jwcolby wrote: > Congrats. It makes you look like a hero too! ;-) > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Sat Jul 7 15:49:20 2007 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:49:20 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> <20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> <013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <468FFC50.9070607@shaw.ca> TechNet Driver Resources includes Vista http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7077966 John Bartow wrote: >Steve, >Have you checked the hardware driver for the DVD under Device Manager? > >You should be able to uninstall the device and it should be found and >reinstalled on next boot up (or run the add hardware applet). > >If its a matter of having the software to burn DVDs that a different issue. >The manufacturer should have a download area for the software that came with >the computer. Otherwise someone here may be able to email a copy of it to >you if they have the same brand. > >John B. > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach >Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:38 AM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton > >John, > >Hero, schmero, I've had the laptop now for 9 days! Sheesh! What kind of >"expert" takes 9 days to fix something...and I still didn't get that DVD to >work. > >Ah, me. I can certainly urge my friend's daughter to retain all CDs that >come with the laptop in any future laptop acquisitions. > >And maybe I'll quietly withdraw from the field of "fixing" PCs that have >software problems. My god! It's too much. > >Steve Erbach > >On 7/6/07, jwcolby wrote: > > >>Congrats. It makes you look like a hero too! ;-) >> >> >>John W. Colby >>Colby Consulting >> >> >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From erbachs at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 19:45:36 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 19:45:36 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <20070707125545.7FB9CBD46@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> <20070707125545.7FB9CBD46@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707071745t7761f57al221141f0592ea2f5@mail.gmail.com> John, ? Trying to do that as a business is tough. If people pay $500 for a machine, they cannot understand how you can charge them $60 / hour for 5 hours to run down some devilish problem. ? And that is why I became a programmer. Not enough of them, more demand than supply, and yet still that fascinating "solving a puzzle" environment. ? For a few months two years ago or so I put out the word that I'd clean up systems for a low fee ($50). It was pin money, more or less. Now that I've gotten into the full-time working world again (13 months, now) I've done very little of this sort of thing. This particular case is one where a friend asked me to help her daughter out. If the types of problems were more predictable it would be a bit more enjoyable. But having to research something new every stinking time has gotten old. I like what I'm doing in my current job, and weekly pay is awfully nice. 15 years of my own business was about 5 years too long. I was stupidly stubborn about seeking full-time employment. Steve Erbach On 7/7/07, jwcolby wrote: > Steve, > > Back in the 80s I fixed stuff - back then down to the chip level with > schematics, o'scopes and soldering irons. It was interesting but not a > particularly high paying job. Today it is more "swap boards" and VERY low > paying. Troubleshooting software problems is much more complex though just > because of the shear complexity of the various pieces and their > interactions. Trying to do that as a business is tough. If people pay $500 > for a machine, they cannot understand how you can charge them $60 / hour for > 5 hours to run down some devilish problem. > > And that is why I became a programmer. Not enough of them, more demand than > supply, and yet still that fascinating "solving a puzzle" environment. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com From erbachs at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 19:49:13 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 19:49:13 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> <20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> <013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707071749h2931b782wce0011af95100426@mail.gmail.com> John, The DVD situation is a problem with the decoder. Microsoft Media Player throws an error saying that no compatible decoder is installed. Of course, the owner of the laptop has lost the installation CDs, and the laptop crashed some time ago, and I'm trying to fix it up. Silly me. The DVD works fine for CD music and CD recording...it's the decoding of DVDs and recording them that doesn't work any more. It isn't something I know a whole lot about and research has shown me that the owner would be well-served by purchasing InterVideo software. I just don't want to do it for her, ya know what I mean? Thank you for your input, as always. Steve Erbach On 7/7/07, John Bartow wrote: > Steve, > Have you checked the hardware driver for the DVD under Device Manager? > > You should be able to uninstall the device and it should be found and > reinstalled on next boot up (or run the add hardware applet). > > If its a matter of having the software to burn DVDs that a different issue. > The manufacturer should have a download area for the software that came with > the computer. Otherwise someone here may be able to email a copy of it to > you if they have the same brand. > > John B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:38 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton > > John, > > Hero, schmero, I've had the laptop now for 9 days! Sheesh! What kind of > "expert" takes 9 days to fix something...and I still didn't get that DVD to > work. > > Ah, me. I can certainly urge my friend's daughter to retain all CDs that > come with the laptop in any future laptop acquisitions. > > And maybe I'll quietly withdraw from the field of "fixing" PCs that have > software problems. My god! It's too much. > > Steve Erbach From erbachs at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 19:51:06 2007 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 19:51:06 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <468FFC50.9070607@shaw.ca> References: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> <20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> <013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <468FFC50.9070607@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <39cb22f30707071751i5549c2b4rd61687fa9f8d0342@mail.gmail.com> Marty, Thank for that link. I'll definitely save it. But this situation calls for an MPEG-2 decoder and they aren't free. So I'll let the owner know that she has to cough up a few bucks for one as well as for Registry Mechanic to clean up the vestiges of Norton registry entries left over after I pulled Norton off the system through the hard disk's nostrils. Steve Erbach On 7/7/07, MartyConnelly wrote: > TechNet Driver Resources includes Vista > > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7077966 > > John Bartow wrote: > > >Steve, > >Have you checked the hardware driver for the DVD under Device Manager? > > > >You should be able to uninstall the device and it should be found and > >reinstalled on next boot up (or run the add hardware applet). > > > >If its a matter of having the software to burn DVDs that a different issue. > >The manufacturer should have a download area for the software that came with > >the computer. Otherwise someone here may be able to email a copy of it to > >you if they have the same brand. > > > >John B. From carbonnb at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 08:23:54 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 09:23:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30707071751i5549c2b4rd61687fa9f8d0342@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> <20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> <013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <468FFC50.9070607@shaw.ca> <39cb22f30707071751i5549c2b4rd61687fa9f8d0342@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/7/07, Steve Erbach wrote: > Thank for that link. I'll definitely save it. But this situation > calls for an MPEG-2 decoder and they aren't free. So I'll let the What kind of laptop? The laptop manufacturer should have the software available for download from their website. Free even. Check that out. I know Dell, Compaq and IBM all do. That should save them a few bucks. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 10:32:07 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:32:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: References: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> <20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> <013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <468FFC50.9070607@shaw.ca> <39cb22f30707071751i5549c2b4rd61687fa9f8d0342@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0707080832o6c73f17scec92628c449541d@mail.gmail.com> So does Toshiba, On 7/8/07, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > > On 7/7/07, Steve Erbach wrote: > > > Thank for that link. I'll definitely save it. But this situation > > calls for an MPEG-2 decoder and they aren't free. So I'll let the > > What kind of laptop? The laptop manufacturer should have the software > available for download from their website. Free even. > > Check that out. I know Dell, Compaq and IBM all do. That should save > them a few bucks. > From mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com Sun Jul 8 11:51:13 2007 From: mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com (Mike Tope) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:51:13 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton References: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com><20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com><39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com><013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <468FFC50.9070607@shaw.ca> <39cb22f30707071751i5549c2b4rd61687fa9f8d0342@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005901c7c180$32948f80$0207a8c0@charybdis> I seem to remember an Mpeg2 decoder that Windows Media Player can use, open source, free to download, called ffdshow. Worth a look maybe, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow Mike Tope ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Erbach" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton > Marty, > > Thank for that link. I'll definitely save it. But this situation > calls for an MPEG-2 decoder and they aren't free. So I'll let the > owner know that she has to cough up a few bucks for one as well as for > Registry Mechanic to clean up the vestiges of Norton registry entries > left over after I pulled Norton off the system through the hard disk's > nostrils. > > Steve Erbach > > > On 7/7/07, MartyConnelly wrote: >> TechNet Driver Resources includes Vista >> >> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7077966 >> >> John Bartow wrote: >> >> >Steve, >> >Have you checked the hardware driver for the DVD under Device Manager? >> > >> >You should be able to uninstall the device and it should be found and >> >reinstalled on next boot up (or run the add hardware applet). >> > >> >If its a matter of having the software to burn DVDs that a different >> >issue. >> >The manufacturer should have a download area for the software that came >> >with >> >the computer. Otherwise someone here may be able to email a copy of it >> >to >> >you if they have the same brand. >> > >> >John B. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 13:04:41 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 13:04:41 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30707070539w6bb2095cm6d7208f052bf283d@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f30707060616ua55f312i49ceb118604d4aa2@mail.gmail.com> <20070706135150.BD213BFBC@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> <39cb22f30707070539w6bb2095cm6d7208f052bf283d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have to really, really like somebody to work on their computer. And I will tell them even then that I will have a quick look and then give them my feeling on if it is within my capabilities and time availability to fix it or if they need to take it to the shop. Both my brother and brother-in-law now usually take their computers directly to the shop before even asking me anymore. SUCCESS! I've trained them! ;-) They usually will ask me for an opinion on what is the problem. But since I live an hour or 2 away from each of them, they know it could be weeks before I would be able to look at it in person. And now I have convinced them to buy some current hardware too instead of making due with the old boat anchor stuff they had been using.That helped solve a lot of problems. GK On 7/7/07, Steve Erbach wrote: > Gary, > > Thanks. It doesn't make me look more kindly on future requests to > "fix" other PCs, though. There are too many things that can go wrong > and I don't have the money to buy all the tools necessary. > > Steve Erbach > > On 7/6/07, Gary Kjos wrote: > > Yea! Good job Steve! > > > > GK > > > > On 7/6/07, Steve Erbach wrote: > > > John, > > > > > > Well, I pulled Norton Internet Security out like a weed. I downloaded > > > Registry Mechanic and let it do its free-version work...I'll advise > > > the owner to buy the full program to clear up the remaining > > > issues...but at least Word works! I can open any document and the > > > built-in virus scan runs (presumably McAfee now that Norton has been > > > ripped out), and voil?! There's the document! > > > > > > That was kinda fun, actually, destroying a software installation in > > > Safe Mode. I hope that the .NET-style of application gains more > > > currency. I'm really rather tired of the registry. > > > > > > Steve Erbach > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From garykjos at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 13:05:59 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 13:05:59 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop and Norton In-Reply-To: References: <39cb22f30707061051q3c783eb1q66ca7a80a12f274a@mail.gmail.com> <20070706195435.D3DC9BEE7@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <39cb22f30707070537g423c6b86w7ad7b9c20074bd45@mail.gmail.com> <013001c7c0aa$d75e18f0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <468FFC50.9070607@shaw.ca> <39cb22f30707071751i5549c2b4rd61687fa9f8d0342@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I believe he said it was a Gateway. GK On 7/8/07, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > On 7/7/07, Steve Erbach wrote: > > > Thank for that link. I'll definitely save it. But this situation > > calls for an MPEG-2 decoder and they aren't free. So I'll let the > > What kind of laptop? The laptop manufacturer should have the software > available for download from their website. Free even. > > Check that out. I know Dell, Compaq and IBM all do. That should save > them a few bucks. > > -- > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well > preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, > shouting "What a great ride!" > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From ssharkins at setel.com Sun Jul 8 13:09:48 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:09:48 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dynamic range in Excel Message-ID: <000001c7c18b$3232bf70$5132fad1@SusanOne> I want to select a range and then use VBA to create a list of all the content in that range. I can't remember how to tell VBA to work with the selected range -- I don't want to hard code a reference. I'm positive I've done this before, but I just can't find it. I can't even get close enough in Help to find it. Thanks! Susan H. From ssharkins at setel.com Sun Jul 8 13:23:13 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:23:13 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] NEVERMIND -- RE: Dynamic range in Excel In-Reply-To: <000001c7c18b$3232bf70$5132fad1@SusanOne> References: <000001c7c18b$3232bf70$5132fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000801c7c18d$0c74a8f0$5132fad1@SusanOne> I swear, it never fails that seconds after I ask, I find what I need. Susan H. I want to select a range and then use VBA to create a list of all the content in that range. I can't remember how to tell VBA to work with the selected range -- I don't want to hard code a reference. I'm positive I've done this before, but I just can't find it. I can't even get close enough in Help to find it. Thanks! Susan H. From ssharkins at setel.com Sun Jul 8 14:12:29 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:12:29 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel Message-ID: <000501c7c193$eead3330$d4b82ad1@SusanOne> I don't know the first thing about handling errors in Excel -- I'm looking for something similar to the On Error statement in Access. Susan H. From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Jul 8 14:28:12 2007 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:28:12 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel In-Reply-To: <000501c7c193$eead3330$d4b82ad1@SusanOne> References: <000501c7c193$eead3330$d4b82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000001c7c196$1fe8e3c0$0500a8c0@jt2b> Should both be the same surely? You definitely use On Error in Excel, I've got some code (not here though, helpfully) with it in. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: 08 July 2007 20:12 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel I don't know the first thing about handling errors in Excel -- I'm looking for something similar to the On Error statement in Access. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From ssharkins at setel.com Sun Jul 8 14:43:04 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:43:04 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel In-Reply-To: <000001c7c196$1fe8e3c0$0500a8c0@jt2b> References: <000501c7c193$eead3330$d4b82ad1@SusanOne> <000001c7c196$1fe8e3c0$0500a8c0@jt2b> Message-ID: <000301c7c198$34f3c850$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> I'll give it a try -- I started to and then couldn't find anything in Excel's VBA Help so thought it just didn't exist in Excel. Here's another one that should be simple -- I'm trying to use a range name -- but it returns an error -- here's what I've tried -- where OrderID is the named range: Set rg = Range(OrderID.Address) Set rg = OrderID.Address Set rg = OrderID I want to use rg in the following: Range(rg.Address).AdvancedFilter Action:=xlFilterCopy, CopyToRange:=Range("H1"), Unique:=True When I was using Selection, it worked fine Set rg = Selection 'Create unique list Range(rg.Address).AdvancedFilter Action:=xlFilterCopy, _ CopyToRange:=Range("H1"), Unique:=True -- but I hoped to eliminate user error by naming the source list and using the named range instead of forcing the user to select the source list. Susan H. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 3:28 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel Should both be the same surely? You definitely use On Error in Excel, I've got some code (not here though, helpfully) with it in. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: 08 July 2007 20:12 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel I don't know the first thing about handling errors in Excel -- I'm looking for something similar to the On Error statement in Access. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/882 - Release Date: 6/30/2007 3:10 PM From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Jul 8 14:58:20 2007 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:58:20 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel In-Reply-To: <000301c7c198$34f3c850$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> References: <000501c7c193$eead3330$d4b82ad1@SusanOne><000001c7c196$1fe8e3c0$0500a8c0@jt2b> <000301c7c198$34f3c850$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000401c7c19a$557a6f00$0500a8c0@jt2b> Way over my head I'm afraid, sorry Susan Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: 08 July 2007 20:43 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel I'll give it a try -- I started to and then couldn't find anything in Excel's VBA Help so thought it just didn't exist in Excel. Here's another one that should be simple -- I'm trying to use a range name -- but it returns an error -- here's what I've tried -- where OrderID is the named range: Set rg = Range(OrderID.Address) Set rg = OrderID.Address Set rg = OrderID I want to use rg in the following: Range(rg.Address).AdvancedFilter Action:=xlFilterCopy, CopyToRange:=Range("H1"), Unique:=True When I was using Selection, it worked fine Set rg = Selection 'Create unique list Range(rg.Address).AdvancedFilter Action:=xlFilterCopy, _ CopyToRange:=Range("H1"), Unique:=True -- but I hoped to eliminate user error by naming the source list and using the named range instead of forcing the user to select the source list. Susan H. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 3:28 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel Should both be the same surely? You definitely use On Error in Excel, I've got some code (not here though, helpfully) with it in. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: 08 July 2007 20:12 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Error handling in Excel I don't know the first thing about handling errors in Excel -- I'm looking for something similar to the On Error statement in Access. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/882 - Release Date: 6/30/2007 3:10 PM _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From ssharkins at setel.com Sun Jul 8 15:33:18 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 16:33:18 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Defined Names in VBA (was RE: Error handling in Excel) In-Reply-To: <000401c7c19a$557a6f00$0500a8c0@jt2b> References: <000501c7c193$eead3330$d4b82ad1@SusanOne><000001c7c196$1fe8e3c0$0500a8c0@jt2b><000301c7c198$34f3c850$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> <000401c7c19a$557a6f00$0500a8c0@jt2b> Message-ID: <001701c7c19f$38a05160$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> Well, the following works, but seems rather convoluted to me. OrderID is a defined range. UniqueList is a single cell where the AdvancedFilter feature creates a unique list from the items in OrderID. I didn't expect using a defined name to be so difficult -- and it probably isn't. There is probably an easier way to accomplish this. If anyone has suggestions, I'm listening. I do absolutely no development in Excel -- I'm winging it. Susan H. Function UniqueList() 'Populate control with 'unique list. Dim rgSource As Range Dim rgTarget As Range 'Get source and unique list 'range addresses. Range("OrderID").Select Set rgSource = Selection Range("UniqueList").Select Set rgTarget = Selection 'Create unique list. Range(rgSource.Address).AdvancedFilter Action:=xlFilterCopy, _ CopyToRange:=Range(rgTarget.Address), Unique:=True 'Set combo control's Row Source property. rgTarget.Activate UserForm1.cboUniqueList.RowSource = Selection.CurrentRegion.Address 'Display user form. UserForm1.Show End Function Way over my head I'm afraid, sorry Susan Jon From ssharkins at setel.com Sun Jul 8 20:07:24 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 21:07:24 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel -- dynamic range name Message-ID: <000b01c7c1c5$83d215d0$93b82ad1@SusanOne> The only way I know of to create a dynamic range name when the list of items increases/decreases is to create a range name that's one cell more than needed and insert a row before adding a new record -- that stretches the range to include the new row. Is this the best way? Susan H. From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Mon Jul 9 09:16:41 2007 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:16:41 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bureau Calendar - Outlook 2003 SP2 Message-ID: Hi All, I've sent this email to Sue Mosher's Yahoo Group and Tek-Tips but didn't get any takers. I have setup a Bureau calendar on my PC where everyone in the Bureau can put their meetings, days off, appointments. It works fine. I've setup two more Bureau systems on other PCs they work fine. Tried to setup another today and it just won't work. Here's what I did. I right click on the calendar under my mailbox and create a new calendar. I right click on my mailbox and in properties I add all staff I want to use it and give them "Reviewer" permission. Then I right click the Bureau calendar properties and give staff "Author" permission. Then I visit staff PCs and add my mailbox to their PC i.e., Tools-->Email accounts-->View or change existing e-mail accounts-->Next-->Change-->More Settings-->Advanced tab-->Add-->Add Mailbox and click OK-->Next-->Finish. Basically I'm giving staff permission to view the Bureau calendar and add information. I have this setup on my PC and on two other peoples PCs and they all work fine. On this system today, only the mailbox shows but not the Bureau Calendar. I triple checked the permissions and they all look right. Anyone have any suggestions? Our IT folks don't know why it's not working. MTIA Ed Edward P. Tesiny Assistant Director for Evaluation Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement New York State OASAS 1450 Western Ave. Albany, New York 12203-3526 Phone: (518) 485-7189 Fax: (518) 485-5769 Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Mon Jul 9 09:19:42 2007 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:19:42 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bureau Calendar - Outlook 2003 SP2 Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D0175@ALCEXLG1> We've got a similar thing here, but it's set up on the exchange server in the public folders bit. Permissions are set etc, so that only the IT Dept can see it - we use it to tell each other when we're off etc. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:17 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Bureau Calendar - Outlook 2003 SP2 Hi All, I've sent this email to Sue Mosher's Yahoo Group and Tek-Tips but didn't get any takers. I have setup a Bureau calendar on my PC where everyone in the Bureau can put their meetings, days off, appointments. It works fine. I've setup two more Bureau systems on other PCs they work fine. Tried to setup another today and it just won't work. Here's what I did. I right click on the calendar under my mailbox and create a new calendar. I right click on my mailbox and in properties I add all staff I want to use it and give them "Reviewer" permission. Then I right click the Bureau calendar properties and give staff "Author" permission. Then I visit staff PCs and add my mailbox to their PC i.e., Tools-->Email accounts-->View or change existing e-mail accounts-->Next-->Change-->More Settings-->Advanced tab-->Add-->Add Mailbox and click OK-->Next-->Finish. Basically I'm giving staff permission to view the Bureau calendar and add information. I have this setup on my PC and on two other peoples PCs and they all work fine. On this system today, only the mailbox shows but not the Bureau Calendar. I triple checked the permissions and they all look right. Anyone have any suggestions? Our IT folks don't know why it's not working. MTIA Ed Edward P. Tesiny Assistant Director for Evaluation Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement New York State OASAS 1450 Western Ave. Albany, New York 12203-3526 Phone: (518) 485-7189 Fax: (518) 485-5769 Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Mon Jul 9 10:05:19 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:05:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel -- dynamic range name In-Reply-To: <000b01c7c1c5$83d215d0$93b82ad1@SusanOne> References: <000b01c7c1c5$83d215d0$93b82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: A better way is to use a formula. Go Insert, name, define, in the "names in workbook" box type the name you want for the range. In the "refers to" box type =offset($a$1,0,0,counta($a$1:$a$10000),counta($1:$1)). The range will change dynamically as rows or columns are added. To check go edit, goto and enter the name of your range and click OK. The entire range should be highlighted. If the range is greater than 10,000 records you have to increase $a$10000. You can of course use $a$65000 to cover the entire column but this slows things down. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:07 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel -- dynamic range name The only way I know of to create a dynamic range name when the list of items increases/decreases is to create a range name that's one cell more than needed and insert a row before adding a new record -- that stretches the range to include the new row. Is this the best way? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Mon Jul 9 10:12:19 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:12:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Defined Names in VBA (was RE: Error handling inExcel) In-Reply-To: <001701c7c19f$38a05160$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> References: <000501c7c193$eead3330$d4b82ad1@SusanOne><000001c7c196$1fe8e3c0$ 0500a8c0@jt2b><000301c7c198$34f3c850$b1b62ad1@SusanOne><000401c7c19a$557a6f 00$0500a8c0@jt2b> <001701c7c19f$38a05160$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: I use this function to determine if a range exists. PS I normally run this function from Access hence appXcel which should be deleted if you are running from within Excel. HTH Jim Hale Private Function RangeNameExists(nname) As Boolean ' Returns TRUE if the range name exists Dim n As Excel.Name RangeNameExists = False For Each n In appXcel.ActiveWorkbook.Names If UCase(n.Name) = UCase(nname) Then RangeNameExists = True Exit Function End If Next n Set n = Nothing End Function -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 3:33 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Defined Names in VBA (was RE: Error handling inExcel) Well, the following works, but seems rather convoluted to me. OrderID is a defined range. UniqueList is a single cell where the AdvancedFilter feature creates a unique list from the items in OrderID. I didn't expect using a defined name to be so difficult -- and it probably isn't. There is probably an easier way to accomplish this. If anyone has suggestions, I'm listening. I do absolutely no development in Excel -- I'm winging it. Susan H. Function UniqueList() 'Populate control with 'unique list. Dim rgSource As Range Dim rgTarget As Range 'Get source and unique list 'range addresses. Range("OrderID").Select Set rgSource = Selection Range("UniqueList").Select Set rgTarget = Selection 'Create unique list. Range(rgSource.Address).AdvancedFilter Action:=xlFilterCopy, _ CopyToRange:=Range(rgTarget.Address), Unique:=True 'Set combo control's Row Source property. rgTarget.Activate UserForm1.cboUniqueList.RowSource = Selection.CurrentRegion.Address 'Display user form. UserForm1.Show End Function Way over my head I'm afraid, sorry Susan Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Mon Jul 9 10:11:45 2007 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:11:45 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bureau Calendar - Outlook 2003 SP2 In-Reply-To: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D0175@ALCEXLG1> References: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D0175@ALCEXLG1> Message-ID: Our IT people don't want to put it on the exchange server because they would have to do addition/deletions of staff and they say that's too much work. Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:20 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bureau Calendar - Outlook 2003 SP2 > > We've got a similar thing here, but it's set up on the > exchange server in > the public folders bit. Permissions are set etc, so that only > the IT Dept > can see it - we use it to tell each other when we're off etc. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:17 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Bureau Calendar - Outlook 2003 SP2 > > > Hi All, > I've sent this email to Sue Mosher's Yahoo Group and Tek-Tips > but didn't > get any takers. > > I have setup a Bureau calendar on my PC where everyone in the > Bureau can > put their meetings, days off, appointments. It works fine. > I've setup > two more Bureau systems on other PCs they work fine. Tried to setup > another today and it just won't work. > > Here's what I did. I right click on the calendar under my > mailbox and > create a new calendar. I right click on my mailbox and in > properties I > add all staff I want to use it and give them "Reviewer" permission. > Then I right click the Bureau calendar properties and give staff > "Author" permission. Then I visit staff PCs and add my > mailbox to their > PC i.e., Tools-->Email accounts-->View or change existing e-mail > accounts-->Next-->Change-->More Settings-->Advanced tab-->Add-->Add > Mailbox and click OK-->Next-->Finish. Basically I'm giving staff > permission to view the Bureau calendar and add information. > I have this > setup on my PC and on two other peoples PCs and they all work > fine. On > this system today, only the mailbox shows but not the Bureau Calendar. > I triple checked the permissions and they all look right. Anyone have > any suggestions? Our IT folks don't know why it's not working. > MTIA > Ed > > Edward P. Tesiny > Assistant Director for Evaluation > Bureau of Evaluation and Practice Improvement > New York State OASAS > 1450 Western Ave. > Albany, New York 12203-3526 > Phone: (518) 485-7189 > Fax: (518) 485-5769 > Email: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally > privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and > are subject > to the legal notice available on request from : > webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk > ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. > Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, > Rotherham, S60 1BZ. > Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 9 10:26:14 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:26:14 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel - format a named range Message-ID: <20070709152640.7944DBE23@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> I need to format a named range to currency. I have the range created but I cannot find any method of the range object which will do a format on the range. How is this done? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Mon Jul 9 10:25:44 2007 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 16:25:44 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel - format a named range Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D0176@ALCEXLG1> Try using the macro recorder - do it manually, and nick the relevant bits of the code from there for your macro. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:26 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel - format a named range I need to format a named range to currency. I have the range created but I cannot find any method of the range object which will do a format on the range. How is this done? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 9 11:06:25 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:06:25 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Defined Names in VBA (was RE: Error handlinginExcel) In-Reply-To: References: <000501c7c193$eead3330$d4b82ad1@SusanOne><000001c7c196$1fe8e3c0$0500a8c0@jt2b><000301c7c198$34f3c850$b1b62ad1@SusanOne><000401c7c19a$557a6f00$0500a8c0@jt2b> <001701c7c19f$38a05160$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005101c7c243$1c690330$27b82ad1@SusanOne> Would this help my problem -- getting the AdvancedFilter method to recognize a named range? Actually, I had trouble getting anything to work with a named range directly. Susan H. I use this function to determine if a range exists. PS I normally run this function from Access hence appXcel which should be deleted if you are running from within Excel. HTH Jim Hale Private Function RangeNameExists(nname) As Boolean ' Returns TRUE if the range name exists Dim n As Excel.Name RangeNameExists = False For Each n In appXcel.ActiveWorkbook.Names If UCase(n.Name) = UCase(nname) Then RangeNameExists = True Exit Function End If Next n Set n = Nothing End Function -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 3:33 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Defined Names in VBA (was RE: Error handling inExcel) Well, the following works, but seems rather convoluted to me. OrderID is a defined range. UniqueList is a single cell where the AdvancedFilter feature creates a unique list from the items in OrderID. I didn't expect using a defined name to be so difficult -- and it probably isn't. There is probably an easier way to accomplish this. If anyone has suggestions, I'm listening. I do absolutely no development in Excel -- I'm winging it. Susan H. Function UniqueList() 'Populate control with 'unique list. Dim rgSource As Range Dim rgTarget As Range 'Get source and unique list 'range addresses. Range("OrderID").Select Set rgSource = Selection Range("UniqueList").Select Set rgTarget = Selection 'Create unique list. Range(rgSource.Address).AdvancedFilter Action:=xlFilterCopy, _ CopyToRange:=Range(rgTarget.Address), Unique:=True 'Set combo control's Row Source property. rgTarget.Activate UserForm1.cboUniqueList.RowSource = Selection.CurrentRegion.Address 'Display user form. UserForm1.Show End Function Way over my head I'm afraid, sorry Susan Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/890 - Release Date: 7/7/2007 3:26 PM From ssharkins at setel.com Mon Jul 9 11:06:26 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:06:26 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel -- dynamic range name In-Reply-To: References: <000b01c7c1c5$83d215d0$93b82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005201c7c243$1e757500$27b82ad1@SusanOne> I'll give it a try -- thanks Jim! Susan H. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:05 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel -- dynamic range name A better way is to use a formula. Go Insert, name, define, in the "names in workbook" box type the name you want for the range. In the "refers to" box type =offset($a$1,0,0,counta($a$1:$a$10000),counta($1:$1)). The range will change dynamically as rows or columns are added. To check go edit, goto and enter the name of your range and click OK. The entire range should be highlighted. If the range is greater than 10,000 records you have to increase $a$10000. You can of course use $a$65000 to cover the entire column but this slows things down. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:07 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel -- dynamic range name The only way I know of to create a dynamic range name when the list of items increases/decreases is to create a range name that's one cell more than needed and insert a row before adding a new record -- that stretches the range to include the new row. Is this the best way? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/890 - Release Date: 7/7/2007 3:26 PM From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jul 9 11:47:42 2007 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:47:42 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel - format a named range Message-ID: Hi John It's not a method but the property NumberFomat of your range you wish to set to the format string of your choice. /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 09-07-2007 17:26 >>> I need to format a named range to currency. I have the range created but I cannot find any method of the range object which will do a format on the range. How is this done? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 9 12:22:16 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:22:16 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel - format a named range In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070709172243.1AACCBEC9@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Gotcha, thanks! Don't ya think you'd be able to set all the format stuff via a format method? Bold, back color, fore color, font, numeric format etc? That was what I was looking for. And of course... NOT! John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:48 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel - format a named range Hi John It's not a method but the property NumberFomat of your range you wish to set to the format string of your choice. /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 09-07-2007 17:26 >>> I need to format a named range to currency. I have the range created but I cannot find any method of the range object which will do a format on the range. How is this done? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Mon Jul 9 13:16:47 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:16:47 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista networking Message-ID: Has anyone started working with Vista on a home wireless network? I bought a new T60 notebook with Vista Ultima and set it up to run wireless on my home network. It found the internet no problemo but refuses to see my network. The networked machines are peer to peer running XPpro off a linksys router and include a NATS drive and several networked printers. I have one XP box working wireless with no problems so I suspect I just am not setting up the T60 corrertly. When I tried to change the wireless connection to use a set IP address it said it couldn't find the network. Any hints to help this network novice? Thanks, Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 14:02:36 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:02:36 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista networking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jim, I have one Vista system on my home network. It is a wired system though. I have other wireless systems and it can see them and they can see it. It also is able to use the Ethernet connected printer without any problem. I just used the wizards and such. Might have turned off the firewalls on both sides to get it to go, it's been a couple months since I got the Vista update loaded. Do you have a workgroup set up? You might have to set up that workgroup name on the new box. Also if you use the search for help feature on the vista system it should lead you through the settings it thinks you would need to change. I'm at the office where we don't have any Vista machines so I can't really give any more specific clues. I can check again when i get home. One other thing, might you have your Linksys set up to restricted mode and your new computer might actually be running off one of your neighbors routers?? You "SHOULD" have your router set to not just talk to anyone right? ;-) Mac address filtering and some kind of encryption are pretty much the standard security settings you would want to have turned on. On my machines I can usually see two and sometimes as many as four neighbors wireless networks. Mine doesn't usually show up as I don't have it broadcasting something or another. So I have to have a machine set up security wise to match what the router is looking for or else it doesn't show in the list of available networks. Maybe you can't see your own network because you are actually connecting to someone elses. Maybe. GK On 7/9/07, Hale, Jim wrote: > > Has anyone started working with Vista on a home wireless network? I > bought a new T60 notebook with Vista Ultima and set it up to run > wireless on my home network. It found the internet no problemo but > refuses to see my network. The networked machines are peer to peer > running XPpro off a linksys router and include a NATS drive and several > networked printers. I have one XP box working wireless with no problems > so I suspect I just am not setting up the T60 corrertly. When I tried to > change the wireless connection to use a set IP address it said it > couldn't find the network. Any hints to help this network novice? > Thanks, > Jim Hale > > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, > you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any > attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Mon Jul 9 14:13:39 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:13:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista networking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, I'll turn off the firewall tonight and see if that does the trick. I have checked and I am on the correct network. The workgroup is also set up. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 2:03 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Vista networking Hi Jim, I have one Vista system on my home network. It is a wired system though. I have other wireless systems and it can see them and they can see it. It also is able to use the Ethernet connected printer without any problem. I just used the wizards and such. Might have turned off the firewalls on both sides to get it to go, it's been a couple months since I got the Vista update loaded. Do you have a workgroup set up? You might have to set up that workgroup name on the new box. Also if you use the search for help feature on the vista system it should lead you through the settings it thinks you would need to change. I'm at the office where we don't have any Vista machines so I can't really give any more specific clues. I can check again when i get home. One other thing, might you have your Linksys set up to restricted mode and your new computer might actually be running off one of your neighbors routers?? You "SHOULD" have your router set to not just talk to anyone right? ;-) Mac address filtering and some kind of encryption are pretty much the standard security settings you would want to have turned on. On my machines I can usually see two and sometimes as many as four neighbors wireless networks. Mine doesn't usually show up as I don't have it broadcasting something or another. So I have to have a machine set up security wise to match what the router is looking for or else it doesn't show in the list of available networks. Maybe you can't see your own network because you are actually connecting to someone elses. Maybe. GK On 7/9/07, Hale, Jim wrote: > > Has anyone started working with Vista on a home wireless network? I > bought a new T60 notebook with Vista Ultima and set it up to run > wireless on my home network. It found the internet no problemo but > refuses to see my network. The networked machines are peer to peer > running XPpro off a linksys router and include a NATS drive and several > networked printers. I have one XP box working wireless with no problems > so I suspect I just am not setting up the T60 corrertly. When I tried to > change the wireless connection to use a set IP address it said it > couldn't find the network. Any hints to help this network novice? > Thanks, > Jim Hale > > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. 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If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 11:50:27 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:50:27 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any FoxPro Message-ID: <29f585dd0707100950mbc82f79vcd5b2f3c0c42ac34@mail.gmail.com> I have a friend who has an old version of FoxPro and he needs to export some data out of it. It's been ages since I used FoxPro last. I think the last versions I have are 6.0 and 7.0, and they are even installed. Can someone with FoxPro knowledge give me an idea what the export options and methods are? Thanks! Arthur From pharold at proftesting.com Tue Jul 10 16:08:48 2007 From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry L Harold) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:08:48 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any FoxPro In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0707100950mbc82f79vcd5b2f3c0c42ac34@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0707100950mbc82f79vcd5b2f3c0c42ac34@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00F5FCB4F80FDB4EB03FBAAEAD97CEAD48BFB8@EXCHANGE.ptiorl.local> After opening the table(dbf) Start with Database - Copy To It gives dialog for which fields to export, the export file format and the file name. The dialog also allows for scope with for and while statements. Perry Harold Professional Testing Inc -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:50 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Any FoxPro I have a friend who has an old version of FoxPro and he needs to export some data out of it. It's been ages since I used FoxPro last. I think the last versions I have are 6.0 and 7.0, and they are even installed. Can someone with FoxPro knowledge give me an idea what the export options and methods are? Thanks! Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From eptept at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 19:07:28 2007 From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:07:28 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Access Graph/Chart Message-ID: <4f4bf9510707101707w651a54abje89a9b612f4e2e6@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, Can anyone point me to a site where they discuss the use of this "tool" I wasn't able to Google anything of use. This is a real pita, just rying to put a few simple graphs in a report. TIA Ed From ssharkins at setel.com Tue Jul 10 19:51:40 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:51:40 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Access Graph/Chart In-Reply-To: <4f4bf9510707101707w651a54abje89a9b612f4e2e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f4bf9510707101707w651a54abje89a9b612f4e2e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <009901c7c355$a5562070$35b62ad1@SusanOne> The graph tool is limited, but I don't remember it being difficult to use. What are you trying to do that you can't? Susan H. Can anyone point me to a site where they discuss the use of this "tool" I wasn't able to Google anything of use. This is a real pita, just rying to put a few simple graphs in a report. From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Tue Jul 10 21:07:32 2007 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:07:32 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Access Graph/Chart In-Reply-To: <4f4bf9510707101707w651a54abje89a9b612f4e2e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f4bf9510707101707w651a54abje89a9b612f4e2e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46943B64.6080808@shaw.ca> Garry Robinson used to have articles on vb123.com but I can't find them Here is a 97 mdb with examples http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=186855 I use TeeChart ActiveX control it is a lot more comprehensive. Ed Tesiny wrote: >Hi All, >Can anyone point me to a site where they discuss the use of this "tool" I >wasn't able to Google anything of use. This is a real pita, just rying to >put a few simple graphs in a report. >TIA >Ed > > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From ssharkins at setel.com Wed Jul 11 09:55:44 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:55:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall Message-ID: <00aa01c7c3cb$8fc135d0$bd34fad1@SusanOne> I'm probably going to have to reinstall Outlook -- the translator files have been corrupted and I'm trying to export data to an Access data and it just can't do it. I don't mind losing settings or rules -- that sort of thing, but will reinstalling destroy the mail in my pst folders and entries in my address book? Or will the installation process maintain them? Susan H. From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Wed Jul 11 09:57:19 2007 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:57:19 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D019F@ALCEXLG1> It can be a bit hit and miss sometimes, but if you search for the *.pst and take a copy of it, you're going to be ok in case it does kill it. The only problem I've had with that is that when you reimport the pst afterwards, the two sets of contact folders get confused and seem to argue about which one is going to be the primary one. It usually ends up with the empty one winning, and I can't figure out how to make them behave, which is irritating, to say the least. Jon Oh yeah, I'm gonna look for your excel thing too :-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:56 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall I'm probably going to have to reinstall Outlook -- the translator files have been corrupted and I'm trying to export data to an Access data and it just can't do it. I don't mind losing settings or rules -- that sort of thing, but will reinstalling destroy the mail in my pst folders and entries in my address book? Or will the installation process maintain them? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 11 10:03:30 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:03:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall In-Reply-To: <00aa01c7c3cb$8fc135d0$bd34fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <20070711150333.D1474BE8A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Susan, The addresses and emails all reside inside of the PST. With a simple reinstall you might not lose anything at all. The various settings are scattered all over hell's half acre, in files and also in the registry. However if you just reinstall, those probably will not be touched (will remain intact). John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall I'm probably going to have to reinstall Outlook -- the translator files have been corrupted and I'm trying to export data to an Access data and it just can't do it. I don't mind losing settings or rules -- that sort of thing, but will reinstalling destroy the mail in my pst folders and entries in my address book? Or will the installation process maintain them? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 10:15:04 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:15:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall In-Reply-To: <20070711150333.D1474BE8A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <00aa01c7c3cb$8fc135d0$bd34fad1@SusanOne> <20070711150333.D1474BE8A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: I'd back the pst files up someplace just to be safe though. That's not a bad idea to do on a regular basis anyway. GK On 7/11/07, jwcolby wrote: > Susan, > > The addresses and emails all reside inside of the PST. With a simple > reinstall you might not lose anything at all. The various settings are > scattered all over hell's half acre, in files and also in the registry. > However if you just reinstall, those probably will not be touched (will > remain intact). > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:56 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall > > > > I'm probably going to have to reinstall Outlook -- the translator files have > been corrupted and I'm trying to export data to an Access data and it just > can't do it. > > I don't mind losing settings or rules -- that sort of thing, but will > reinstalling destroy the mail in my pst folders and entries in my address > book? Or will the installation process maintain them? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From ssharkins at setel.com Wed Jul 11 11:04:02 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:04:02 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall In-Reply-To: References: <00aa01c7c3cb$8fc135d0$bd34fad1@SusanOne><20070711150333.D1474BE8A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <001201c7c3d5$1d875fd0$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> Right -- thanks everyone. Susan H. I'd back the pst files up someplace just to be safe though. That's not a bad idea to do on a regular basis anyway. From ssharkins at setel.com Wed Jul 11 11:51:11 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:51:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook permissions Message-ID: <004f01c7c3db$b047ad10$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> If I'm responding to someone else's email via permissions to their folder, and I replace that user's name with mine, any response to my response will come to me, right? Susan H. From john at winhaven.net Wed Jul 11 12:55:58 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:55:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall In-Reply-To: <00aa01c7c3cb$8fc135d0$bd34fad1@SusanOne> References: <00aa01c7c3cb$8fc135d0$bd34fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000c01c7c3e4$bd28b570$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Hi Susan, Here are two links (the second being more thorough) on how to save all of your outlook files and settings. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;196492 http://www.slipstick.com/config/backup.asp I know - "couldn't there just be a command to backup Outlook data?! Outlook knows where to look for crying out loud!" I say it all the time. One of these days I'll have some time and write some code to do this - yeah right. ;o) Good luck - John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins I'm probably going to have to reinstall Outlook -- the translator files have been corrupted and I'm trying to export data to an Access data and it just can't do it. I don't mind losing settings or rules -- that sort of thing, but will reinstalling destroy the mail in my pst folders and entries in my address book? Or will the installation process maintain them? From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 11 13:08:28 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:08:28 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall In-Reply-To: <000c01c7c3e4$bd28b570$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <20070711180831.D64BCBE9A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> This is one of the most frustrating things about Outlook is the hoops you have to jump through to copy it off to another machine or even get it reinstalled on a new machine. It is just stupid really. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:56 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall Hi Susan, Here are two links (the second being more thorough) on how to save all of your outlook files and settings. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;196492 http://www.slipstick.com/config/backup.asp I know - "couldn't there just be a command to backup Outlook data?! Outlook knows where to look for crying out loud!" I say it all the time. One of these days I'll have some time and write some code to do this - yeah right. ;o) Good luck - John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins I'm probably going to have to reinstall Outlook -- the translator files have been corrupted and I'm trying to export data to an Access data and it just can't do it. I don't mind losing settings or rules -- that sort of thing, but will reinstalling destroy the mail in my pst folders and entries in my address book? Or will the installation process maintain them? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Jul 11 13:19:21 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:19:21 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall In-Reply-To: <000c01c7c3e4$bd28b570$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <000301c7c3e8$00da8b60$0301a8c0@HAL9005> This is good to know as I rave Office 2003 on my main box and need Access 2000. But to install IIRC I have to uninstall 2003, and install 2000 and THEN 2003. Which I've been reluctant to do because I'm so tied to OL now. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:56 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall Hi Susan, Here are two links (the second being more thorough) on how to save all of your outlook files and settings. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;196492 http://www.slipstick.com/config/backup.asp I know - "couldn't there just be a command to backup Outlook data?! Outlook knows where to look for crying out loud!" I say it all the time. One of these days I'll have some time and write some code to do this - yeah right. ;o) Good luck - John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins I'm probably going to have to reinstall Outlook -- the translator files have been corrupted and I'm trying to export data to an Access data and it just can't do it. I don't mind losing settings or rules -- that sort of thing, but will reinstalling destroy the mail in my pst folders and entries in my address book? Or will the installation process maintain them? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 7/10/2007 5:44 PM From john at winhaven.net Wed Jul 11 13:29:09 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:29:09 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook reinstall In-Reply-To: <20070711180831.D64BCBE9A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <000c01c7c3e4$bd28b570$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <20070711180831.D64BCBE9A@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <002501c7c3e9$603dd610$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Agreed! Most of this could be done via VBA - but where's the time? It seems that MS just left this hanging out there for developers to fill in the gap. A bone thrown our way :oP``` Wow, thanks, eh? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby This is one of the most frustrating things about Outlook is the hoops you have to jump through to copy it off to another machine or even get it reinstalled on a new machine. It is just stupid really. From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Wed Jul 11 13:56:37 2007 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:56:37 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook permissions References: <004f01c7c3db$b047ad10$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B4829@stekelbes.ithelps.local> If you are talking of a Exchange Server installation and remove the senders name from the "From" field. Yes... But the original person will no longer receive replys. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook permissions If I'm responding to someone else's email via permissions to their folder, and I replace that user's name with mine, any response to my response will come to me, right? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at setel.com Wed Jul 11 14:09:36 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:09:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook permissions In-Reply-To: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B4829@stekelbes.ithelps.local> References: <004f01c7c3db$b047ad10$b1b62ad1@SusanOne> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B4829@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <003c01c7c3ef$12dea650$5d34fad1@SusanOne> If you are talking of a Exchange Server installation and remove the senders name from the "From" field. Yes... But the original person will no longer receive replys. ======That's to be expected and acceptable -- I just wanted to make sure that I understood the repercussions. Thanks! Susan H. From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Wed Jul 11 15:06:02 2007 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:06:02 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook permissions References: <004f01c7c3db$b047ad10$b1b62ad1@SusanOne><430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B4829@stekelbes.ithelps.local> <003c01c7c3ef$12dea650$5d34fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B482C@stekelbes.ithelps.local> You may leave the senders name on the "From" field (beeing your collegue) if you want the reply to your answer to return to your collegue (ahumm do you follow me?). But in that case you also need "send as" permission on the Exchange server mailbox from you collegue. I believe if you do have permission the "from" field is filled with your collegue name if not it is blanc. But that can be different depending on the Outlook version!? MSO 2003 does. Erwin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:10 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook permissions If you are talking of a Exchange Server installation and remove the senders name from the "From" field. Yes... But the original person will no longer receive replys. ======That's to be expected and acceptable -- I just wanted to make sure that I understood the repercussions. Thanks! Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 11 15:11:03 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:11:03 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow to open. Message-ID: <20070711201107.24B27BD3D@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> My IE is taking a long time to open. It seems to have something to do with google toolbar since when I uncheck that IE pops right open, when I check it again it opens slowly (30 seconds or so). Took awhile to figure it out (waiting 30 seconds every time I tried something). John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Jul 11 15:26:05 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:26:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowto open. In-Reply-To: <20070711201107.24B27BD3D@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <20070711201107.24B27BD3D@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <007e01c7c3f9$b5d2e9c0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> If its IE 7 unistall google toolbar and change your default search engine to google by clickin gon the search icon's options feature. I have a dozen or so options there with google as the default and it works sweet. I do the same in Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby My IE is taking a long time to open. It seems to have something to do with google toolbar since when I uncheck that IE pops right open, when I check it again it opens slowly (30 seconds or so). Took awhile to figure it out (waiting 30 seconds every time I tried something). From jon at tydda.plus.com Wed Jul 11 15:29:13 2007 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:29:13 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] IE sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowto open. In-Reply-To: <20070711201107.24B27BD3D@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <20070711201107.24B27BD3D@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <001801c7c3fa$2599df70$0500a8c0@jt2b> Delete it, then reinstall it, I say. If it's still slow afterwards, nerf it from your system. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: 11 July 2007 21:11 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] IE sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowto open. My IE is taking a long time to open. It seems to have something to do with google toolbar since when I uncheck that IE pops right open, when I check it again it opens slowly (30 seconds or so). Took awhile to figure it out (waiting 30 seconds every time I tried something). John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From ssharkins at setel.com Wed Jul 11 16:09:10 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:09:10 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook permissions In-Reply-To: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B482C@stekelbes.ithelps.local> References: <004f01c7c3db$b047ad10$b1b62ad1@SusanOne><430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B4829@stekelbes.ithelps.local><003c01c7c3ef$12dea650$5d34fad1@SusanOne> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B482C@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <002301c7c3ff$bb18f400$d1b82ad1@SusanOne> You may leave the senders name on the "From" field (beeing your collegue) if you want the reply to your answer to return to your collegue (ahumm do you follow me?). ==========In my version, if author or publisher the message contains both -- from you on so and so's behalf. Susan H. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Jul 11 22:03:42 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:03:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2003 x64; SQL Server 2005 X64 Message-ID: <20070712030347.0B7E8BDA9@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Is anyone out there running Windows 2003 X64? If so would you care to comment on what was involved in getting it to happen, drivers, getting the software etc. Same question for SQl Server 2005 X64. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Jul 12 10:21:58 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:21:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] DSNs location Message-ID: Can someone tell me where the DSNs are stored in XP prof? 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From Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk Thu Jul 12 10:28:26 2007 From: Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk (Jon Tydda) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:28:26 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] DSNs location Message-ID: <3F27A64D4EF89140AC765068A7F373D73D01AD@ALCEXLG1> They're in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI for both XP and 2000. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:22 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] DSNs location Can someone tell me where the DSNs are stored in XP prof? I need to copy them to a different machine TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:22 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] DSNs location Can someone tell me where the DSNs are stored in XP prof? I need to copy them to a different machine TIA Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 18:23:57 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:23:57 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel manipulations Message-ID: <29f585dd0707121623n1a3d3815k3f4827d2cf9e64c2@mail.gmail.com> Can anyone supply example(s) of manipulating Excel data strictly within Excel? No database or Word connections required. I want to narrow the confines of my learning experience strictly to Excel at the moment. TIA, Arthur From ssharkins at setel.com Fri Jul 13 08:28:19 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:28:19 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA Message-ID: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne> I asked this over on Access-d, but didn't see a response. Sorry for those of you that are seeing a repeat. I'm trying to export mail items to an Access data. A wizard takes care of this nicely, if you go the manual route. The wizard will create a database if it doesn't exist and will export all the fields without specifically mapping them to an Access table -- it works great. Using VBA, the only way I've found to do the same is to cycle through all the mail fields and using a Recordset object add them to an existing database with the appropriate table fields. Now, I expected to find some easy-to-implement export method in the form, but I haven't. My code lets the user select a folder and checks for the folder "type" using a For loop that counts items in the folder: For I = CurrentFolder.Items.Count To 1 Step -1 but then I have to hardcode all the mail fields -- was hoping to avoid all that. Is there an export function? I can't find it in Outlook's VBA Help. Also, I really thought a For Each would be better, but can't get the objects right. Susan H. From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Fri Jul 13 08:30:55 2007 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:30:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel manipulations In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0707121623n1a3d3815k3f4827d2cf9e64c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0707121623n1a3d3815k3f4827d2cf9e64c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What kind of thing do you want to do? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel manipulations Can anyone supply example(s) of manipulating Excel data strictly within Excel? No database or Word connections required. I want to narrow the confines of my learning experience strictly to Excel at the moment. 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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Fri Jul 13 21:48:23 2007 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:48:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA In-Reply-To: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> You could try this Link Outlook contacts to an Access database a folder might work. http://office.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/HA011165811033.aspx or Here is a sample of code. You'll need to modify it to accomplish what you want exactly. 'From: "siebeneck yon (slc1yps)" Public Function ReadMail() Dim OL As Outlook.Application Dim nsOL As Outlook.NameSpace Dim fldFolder As Outlook.MAPIFolder Dim DB As DAO.Database Dim RS As DAO.Recordset Dim olMailList As Object Dim olMailLists As Object Set DB = CurrentDb() Set RS = DB.OpenRecordset("tbAccessL") Set OL = New Outlook.Application Set nsOL = OL.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set fldFolder = nsOL.Folders("Personal Folders").Folders("Inbox").Folders("Access-L") Set olMailLists = fldFolder.Items For Each olMailList In olMailLists With RS .AddNew !MsgSender = olMailList.SenderName !MsgSubject = olMailList.Subject !MsgSent = olMailList.ReceivedTime .Update End With Next olMailList Set fldFolder = Nothing Set nsOL = Nothing Set OL = Nothing RS.Close Set RS = Nothing DB.Close Set DB = Nothing End Function Susan Harkins wrote: >I asked this over on Access-d, but didn't see a response. Sorry for those of >you that are seeing a repeat. > >I'm trying to export mail items to an Access data. A wizard takes care of >this nicely, if you go the manual route. The wizard will create a database >if it doesn't exist and will export all the fields without specifically >mapping them to an Access table -- it works great. > >Using VBA, the only way I've found to do the same is to cycle through all >the mail fields and using a Recordset object add them to an existing >database with the appropriate table fields. > >Now, I expected to find some easy-to-implement export method in the form, >but I haven't. My code lets the user select a folder and checks for the >folder "type" using a For loop that counts items in the folder: > >For I = CurrentFolder.Items.Count To 1 Step -1 > >but then I have to hardcode all the mail fields -- was hoping to avoid all >that. > >Is there an export function? I can't find it in Outlook's VBA Help. Also, I >really thought a For Each would be better, but can't get the objects right. > >Susan H. > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From ssharkins at setel.com Sat Jul 14 07:48:04 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:48:04 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA In-Reply-To: <46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne> <46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <00e201c7c615$617970b0$9fb62ad1@SusanOne> That's pretty close to what I'm already using, but the For is different -- I'd prefer to use a For Each over a For Count if possible, so I'll give that a try. FWIW, I downloaded a VBA Help file for Outlook yesterday and there is no export function, which surprises me. If Outlook has one, it's staying well hidden. ;) Thanks for the link Marty. I'll take a look. Susan H. You could try this Link Outlook contacts to an Access database a folder might work. http://office.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/HA011165811033.aspx or From ssharkins at setel.com Sat Jul 14 10:54:29 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:54:29 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA In-Reply-To: <46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne> <46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <000001c7c62f$4b59b000$dab82ad1@SusanOne> Marty, I'm using code. Here's what I'm currently using and it works fine, but I am confused about a few things: For intCounter = objFolder.Items.Count To 1 Step -1 '----- 'database and table can be open, but records won't show 'up until you close and reopen table. '----- With objFolder.Items(intCounter) If .Class = olMail Then adoRS.AddNew adoRS("Subject") = .Subject adoRS("Body") = .Body adoRS("FromName") = .SenderName adoRS("ToName") = .To 'adoRS("FromName") = .FromName 'adoRS("FromAddress") = .FromAddress 'adoRS("FromType") = .FromType ' adoRS("ToName") = .ToName ' adoRS("ToAddress") = .ToAddress ' adoRS("ToType") = .ToType ' adoRS("CCName") = .CCName ' adoRS("CCAddress") = .CCAddress ' adoRS("CCType") = .CCType ' adoRS("BCCName") = .BCCName ' adoRS("BCCAddress") = .BCCAddress ' adoRS("BCCType") = .BCCType ' adoRS("Importance") = .Importance ' adoRS("Sensitivity") = .Sensitivity adoRS.Update End If End With Next First, I simply can't get a For Each right -- I'm sure that's my misunderstanding of the object model. I'd also rather use a second For Each to cycle through all the current mail item's "fields" -- but can't get that either. I tried to hard code them, but most throw an error -- as you can see by the comment out lines. To learn the field names, I used the export wizard to create a target database. I used the resulting table field names, but apparently, they don't match Outlook's internal names -- that just doesn't make good sense to me. :( Does anyone know of a link that maps Outlook's internal field names? I'm totally lost. Susan H. Here is a sample of code. You'll need to modify it to accomplish what you want exactly. 'From: "siebeneck yon (slc1yps)" Public Function ReadMail() From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Sat Jul 14 12:14:58 2007 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:14:58 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA In-Reply-To: <000001c7c62f$4b59b000$dab82ad1@SusanOne> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne> <46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> <000001c7c62f$4b59b000$dab82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <46990492.4090009@shaw.ca> Usually the error I see here is adoRS("CCName") = .CCName .CCName is Null and adoRS("CCName")doesn't allow Nulls in the table field Occassionally on some models like WMI but not Outlook .CCName is defined as an array rather than a string adoRS("CCName") = .CCName(0) so you pass the start of the null terminated array Susan Harkins wrote: >Marty, I'm using code. Here's what I'm currently using and it works fine, >but I am confused about a few things: > > For intCounter = objFolder.Items.Count To 1 Step -1 > > '----- > 'database and table can be open, but records won't show > 'up until you close and reopen table. > '----- > > With objFolder.Items(intCounter) > If .Class = olMail Then > adoRS.AddNew > adoRS("Subject") = .Subject > adoRS("Body") = .Body > adoRS("FromName") = .SenderName > adoRS("ToName") = .To > 'adoRS("FromName") = .FromName > 'adoRS("FromAddress") = .FromAddress > 'adoRS("FromType") = .FromType >' adoRS("ToName") = .ToName >' adoRS("ToAddress") = .ToAddress >' adoRS("ToType") = .ToType >' adoRS("CCName") = .CCName >' adoRS("CCAddress") = .CCAddress >' adoRS("CCType") = .CCType >' adoRS("BCCName") = .BCCName >' adoRS("BCCAddress") = .BCCAddress >' adoRS("BCCType") = .BCCType >' adoRS("Importance") = .Importance >' adoRS("Sensitivity") = .Sensitivity > adoRS.Update > End If > End With > Next > > >First, I simply can't get a For Each right -- I'm sure that's my >misunderstanding of the object model. I'd also rather use a second For Each >to cycle through all the current mail item's "fields" -- but can't get that >either. I tried to hard code them, but most throw an error -- as you can see >by the comment out lines. > >To learn the field names, I used the export wizard to create a target >database. I used the resulting table field names, but apparently, they don't >match Outlook's internal names -- that just doesn't make good sense to me. >:( Does anyone know of a link that maps Outlook's internal field names? I'm >totally lost. > >Susan H. > >Here is a sample of code. You'll need >to modify it to accomplish what you want exactly. >'From: "siebeneck yon (slc1yps)" >Public Function ReadMail() > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From ssharkins at setel.com Sat Jul 14 12:23:35 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:23:35 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA In-Reply-To: <46990492.4090009@shaw.ca> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne><46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> <000001c7c62f$4b59b000$dab82ad1@SusanOne> <46990492.4090009@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <003401c7c63b$b6966c30$dab82ad1@SusanOne> Thanks Marty -- you might be right -- I'll take a look. Susan H. Usually the error I see here is adoRS("CCName") = .CCName .CCName is Null and adoRS("CCName")doesn't allow Nulls in the table field Occassionally on some models like WMI but not Outlook .CCName is defined as an array rather than a string adoRS("CCName") = .CCName(0) so you pass the start of the null terminated array Susan Harkins wrote: >Marty, I'm using code. Here's what I'm currently using and it works >fine, but I am confused about a few things: > > For intCounter = objFolder.Items.Count To 1 Step -1 > > '----- > 'database and table can be open, but records won't show 'up until > you close and reopen table. > '----- > > With objFolder.Items(intCounter) > If .Class = olMail Then > adoRS.AddNew > adoRS("Subject") = .Subject > adoRS("Body") = .Body > adoRS("FromName") = .SenderName > adoRS("ToName") = .To > 'adoRS("FromName") = .FromName > 'adoRS("FromAddress") = .FromAddress > 'adoRS("FromType") = .FromType >' adoRS("ToName") = .ToName >' adoRS("ToAddress") = .ToAddress >' adoRS("ToType") = .ToType >' adoRS("CCName") = .CCName >' adoRS("CCAddress") = .CCAddress >' adoRS("CCType") = .CCType >' adoRS("BCCName") = .BCCName >' adoRS("BCCAddress") = .BCCAddress >' adoRS("BCCType") = .BCCType >' adoRS("Importance") = .Importance >' adoRS("Sensitivity") = .Sensitivity > adoRS.Update > End If > End With > Next > > >First, I simply can't get a For Each right -- I'm sure that's my >misunderstanding of the object model. I'd also rather use a second For >Each to cycle through all the current mail item's "fields" -- but can't >get that either. I tried to hard code them, but most throw an error -- >as you can see by the comment out lines. > >To learn the field names, I used the export wizard to create a target >database. I used the resulting table field names, but apparently, they >don't match Outlook's internal names -- that just doesn't make good sense to me. >:( Does anyone know of a link that maps Outlook's internal field names? >I'm totally lost. > >Susan H. > >Here is a sample of code. You'll need >to modify it to accomplish what you want exactly. >'From: "siebeneck yon (slc1yps)" >Public Function ReadMail() > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 2007/07/12 04:08 PM From ssharkins at setel.com Sat Jul 14 13:09:04 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:09:04 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA In-Reply-To: <46990492.4090009@shaw.ca> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne><46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> <000001c7c62f$4b59b000$dab82ad1@SusanOne> <46990492.4090009@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <004601c7c642$11540a50$dab82ad1@SusanOne> Just in case anybody's curious -- this is the code I ended up using to get the internal field names -- I call them fields, but Outlook calls them properties -- this code gave me properties I don't want, but I can deal with that. It seems like these "fields" or properties should be separate from the others and maybe there is a way to get at them without the other properties, but I couldn't find it: Sub GetFieldNames() Dim myolApp As Application Dim myNameSpace As Outlook.NameSpace Dim myFolder As Outlook.MAPIFolder Dim myItem As Outlook.MailItem Dim prop As Object Set myolApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application") Set myNameSpace = myolApp.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set myFolder = myNameSpace.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderInbox) Set myItem = myFolder.Items(2) For Each prop In myItem.ItemProperties Debug.Print prop.Name Next End Sub Susan H. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly Sent: 14 July 2007 01:15 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA Usually the error I see here is adoRS("CCName") = .CCName .CCName is Null and adoRS("CCName")doesn't allow Nulls in the table field Occassionally on some models like WMI but not Outlook .CCName is defined as an array rather than a string adoRS("CCName") = .CCName(0) so you pass the start of the null terminated array Susan Harkins wrote: >Marty, I'm using code. Here's what I'm currently using and it works >fine, but I am confused about a few things: > > For intCounter = objFolder.Items.Count To 1 Step -1 > > '----- > 'database and table can be open, but records won't show 'up until > you close and reopen table. > '----- > > With objFolder.Items(intCounter) > If .Class = olMail Then > adoRS.AddNew > adoRS("Subject") = .Subject > adoRS("Body") = .Body > adoRS("FromName") = .SenderName > adoRS("ToName") = .To > 'adoRS("FromName") = .FromName > 'adoRS("FromAddress") = .FromAddress > 'adoRS("FromType") = .FromType >' adoRS("ToName") = .ToName >' adoRS("ToAddress") = .ToAddress >' adoRS("ToType") = .ToType >' adoRS("CCName") = .CCName >' adoRS("CCAddress") = .CCAddress >' adoRS("CCType") = .CCType >' adoRS("BCCName") = .BCCName >' adoRS("BCCAddress") = .BCCAddress >' adoRS("BCCType") = .BCCType >' adoRS("Importance") = .Importance >' adoRS("Sensitivity") = .Sensitivity > adoRS.Update > End If > End With > Next > > >First, I simply can't get a For Each right -- I'm sure that's my >misunderstanding of the object model. I'd also rather use a second For >Each to cycle through all the current mail item's "fields" -- but can't >get that either. I tried to hard code them, but most throw an error -- >as you can see by the comment out lines. > >To learn the field names, I used the export wizard to create a target >database. I used the resulting table field names, but apparently, they >don't match Outlook's internal names -- that just doesn't make good sense to me. >:( Does anyone know of a link that maps Outlook's internal field names? >I'm totally lost. > >Susan H. > >Here is a sample of code. You'll need >to modify it to accomplish what you want exactly. >'From: "siebeneck yon (slc1yps)" >Public Function ReadMail() > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 2007/07/12 04:08 PM From ssharkins at setel.com Sat Jul 14 13:32:35 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:32:35 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] On Error in Outlook (RE: Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA) In-Reply-To: <004601c7c642$11540a50$dab82ad1@SusanOne> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne><46983977.3030405@shaw.ca><000001c7c62f$4b59b000$dab82ad1@SusanOne><46990492.4090009@shaw.ca> <004601c7c642$11540a50$dab82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005101c7c645$5a1e0b70$dab82ad1@SusanOne> Oh yeah, one more thing I don't understand -- can Outlook not handle On Error? It returns a "label not defined" error. Susan H. Just in case anybody's curious -- this is the code I ended up using to get the internal field names -- I call them fields, but Outlook calls them properties -- this code gave me properties I don't want, but I can deal with that. It seems like these "fields" or properties should be separate from the others and maybe there is a way to get at them without the other properties, but I couldn't find it: From ssharkins at setel.com Sat Jul 14 13:32:35 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:32:35 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA In-Reply-To: <004601c7c642$11540a50$dab82ad1@SusanOne> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne><46983977.3030405@shaw.ca><000001c7c62f$4b59b000$dab82ad1@SusanOne><46990492.4090009@shaw.ca> <004601c7c642$11540a50$dab82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005201c7c645$5beefae0$dab82ad1@SusanOne> Well, here's an interesting behavior -- the wizard exports descriptions for the Importance and Sensitivity properties, Normal shows up mostly. Using VBA to do the same, these properties export integers -- now I have to find what the integers stand for. There is just no end to this... I still don't understand why Outlook exports fields/properties manually that I can't seem to find using VBA. Susan H. Just in case anybody's curious -- this is the code I ended up using to get the internal field names -- I call them fields, but Outlook calls them properties -- this code gave me properties I don't want, but I can deal with that. It seems like these "fields" or properties should be separate from the others and maybe there is a way to get at them without the other properties, but I couldn't find it: Sub GetFieldNames() Dim myolApp As Application Dim myNameSpace As Outlook.NameSpace Dim myFolder As Outlook.MAPIFolder Dim myItem As Outlook.MailItem Dim prop As Object Set myolApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application") Set myNameSpace = myolApp.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set myFolder = myNameSpace.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderInbox) Set myItem = myFolder.Items(2) For Each prop In myItem.ItemProperties Debug.Print prop.Name Next End Sub Susan H. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly Sent: 14 July 2007 01:15 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA Usually the error I see here is adoRS("CCName") = .CCName .CCName is Null and adoRS("CCName")doesn't allow Nulls in the table field Occassionally on some models like WMI but not Outlook .CCName is defined as an array rather than a string adoRS("CCName") = .CCName(0) so you pass the start of the null terminated array Susan Harkins wrote: >Marty, I'm using code. Here's what I'm currently using and it works >fine, but I am confused about a few things: > > For intCounter = objFolder.Items.Count To 1 Step -1 > > '----- > 'database and table can be open, but records won't show 'up until > you close and reopen table. > '----- > > With objFolder.Items(intCounter) > If .Class = olMail Then > adoRS.AddNew > adoRS("Subject") = .Subject > adoRS("Body") = .Body > adoRS("FromName") = .SenderName > adoRS("ToName") = .To > 'adoRS("FromName") = .FromName > 'adoRS("FromAddress") = .FromAddress > 'adoRS("FromType") = .FromType >' adoRS("ToName") = .ToName >' adoRS("ToAddress") = .ToAddress >' adoRS("ToType") = .ToType >' adoRS("CCName") = .CCName >' adoRS("CCAddress") = .CCAddress >' adoRS("CCType") = .CCType >' adoRS("BCCName") = .BCCName >' adoRS("BCCAddress") = .BCCAddress >' adoRS("BCCType") = .BCCType >' adoRS("Importance") = .Importance >' adoRS("Sensitivity") = .Sensitivity > adoRS.Update > End If > End With > Next > > >First, I simply can't get a For Each right -- I'm sure that's my >misunderstanding of the object model. I'd also rather use a second For >Each to cycle through all the current mail item's "fields" -- but can't >get that either. I tried to hard code them, but most throw an error -- >as you can see by the comment out lines. > >To learn the field names, I used the export wizard to create a target >database. I used the resulting table field names, but apparently, they >don't match Outlook's internal names -- that just doesn't make good >sense to me. >:( Does anyone know of a link that maps Outlook's internal field names? >I'm totally lost. > >Susan H. > >Here is a sample of code. You'll need >to modify it to accomplish what you want exactly. >'From: "siebeneck yon (slc1yps)" >Public Function ReadMail() > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 2007/07/12 04:08 PM _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 2007/07/12 04:08 PM From ssharkins at setel.com Sat Jul 14 14:28:16 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:28:16 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Exporting from Outlook to Excel Message-ID: <001301c7c64d$2135e4b0$9232fad1@SusanOne> I tried the exporting code I'm using to export Outlook e-mail messages to Access with Excel. I created a new DSN first and hoped it would work. First, one of the properties balked, so I commented it out. The new DSN didn't like the recordset's Update property -- said I needed an updateable query. Well, I just don't work enough with Excel VBA to know what the problem is. Can I use an ADODB Recordset object to copy data to an Excel worksheet? If so, is there a different Update method I should use? Susan H. From ssharkins at setel.com Sun Jul 15 07:51:14 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:51:14 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Live Toolbar Message-ID: <001e01c7c6de$e04d7340$7db82ad1@SusanOne> Download Windows Live Toolbar Windows Live Toolbar helps you to start a search from any Web page and get better protection against phishing scams and viruses. =====Any of you use this and what do you think of it? Susan H. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 15:56:42 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:56:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question Message-ID: <29f585dd0707151356w7cca9d67pde7a36396e7c4fbd@mail.gmail.com> Is there any reason that anyone can think of to use Excel macros rather than VBA code? I'm no Excel expert so this is a legit question. TIA, Arthur From dwaters at usinternet.com Sun Jul 15 16:07:57 2007 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:07:57 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0707151356w7cca9d67pde7a36396e7c4fbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0707151356w7cca9d67pde7a36396e7c4fbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000101c7c724$3823f860$0200a8c0@danwaters> Aaaah. MS Terminology. In Excel, a macro IS VBA code. Unlike Access, the other Office applications use VBA code for their macros. And, I glad for that. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question Is there any reason that anyone can think of to use Excel macros rather than VBA code? I'm no Excel expert so this is a legit question. TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 17 13:06:54 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:06:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow email Message-ID: <20070717180655.C19FFBD3F@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> I have a truly bizarre problem. I use Outlook. TaDum. No, that is not the problem, the problem is that of all the emails in one of my folders, if I open any email past a certain date and try to reply, the characters type in like molases. I have narrowed it down to a specific email, before which I can type in a reply at full speed, but after which ALL replies look like I am using remote access over a 2400 baud modem. For those of you who have never used a modem... Never mind. My client sent me an email and when I try to write a response, the characters do not even begin to appear until 20 seconds after typing them. Any ideas how this could be? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 13:24:19 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:24:19 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow email In-Reply-To: <20070717180655.C19FFBD3F@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <20070717180655.C19FFBD3F@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: On 7/17/07, jwcolby wrote: > My client sent me an email and when I try to write a response, the > characters do not even begin to appear until 20 seconds after typing them. > > Any ideas how this could be? Corruption in your PST? -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 17 13:35:39 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:35:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow email In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070717183541.75B80BBF3@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Maybe. The emails are there, I can read them, I can respond to them (with plenty of patience). Is there a "repair" option for a pst, and if so how do I do it. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow email On 7/17/07, jwcolby wrote: > My client sent me an email and when I try to write a response, the > characters do not even begin to appear until 20 seconds after typing them. > > Any ideas how this could be? Corruption in your PST? -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 13:36:15 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:36:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] On Bryan Carbonell Message-ID: <29f585dd0707171136o5ddf6ae6pc4c432d0cd8ad243@mail.gmail.com> A while back, I and a client had needs of Bryan's expertise, and he supplied same with splendid results. I just want to thank him in public, and to recommend him to this community should you wish some expertise in the OLE integration category. He does beautiful work. Arthur From carbonnb at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 13:43:54 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:43:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow email In-Reply-To: <20070717183541.75B80BBF3@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> References: <20070717183541.75B80BBF3@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: On 7/17/07, jwcolby wrote: > Maybe. The emails are there, I can read them, I can respond to them (with > plenty of patience). Is there a "repair" option for a pst, and if so how do > I do it. Start| Control Panel| Add Remove Programs | Uninstall Outlook.... Oops, sorry bias showing through again. I'll have to let someone more knowledgeable on Outlook answer that. Although, I seem to recall there is. Tools menu maybe? Maybe it's a separate download from MS. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From carbonnb at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 13:47:07 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:47:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] On Bryan Carbonell In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0707171136o5ddf6ae6pc4c432d0cd8ad243@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0707171136o5ddf6ae6pc4c432d0cd8ad243@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/17/07, Arthur Fuller wrote: > A while back, I and a client had needs of Bryan's expertise, and he supplied > same with splendid results. I just want to thank him in public, and to > recommend him to this community should you wish some expertise in the OLE > integration category. He does beautiful work. Uh, thanks Arthur.... Cheque's in the mail... :) No, seriously thanks. I appreciate the comments. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 13:49:40 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:49:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow email In-Reply-To: References: <20070717183541.75B80BBF3@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA010563001033.aspx It's called Inbox Repair Tool but it is included with Outlook. Make a backup first. Good luck. GK On 7/17/07, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > On 7/17/07, jwcolby wrote: > > Maybe. The emails are there, I can read them, I can respond to them (with > > plenty of patience). Is there a "repair" option for a pst, and if so how do > > I do it. > > Start| Control Panel| Add Remove Programs | Uninstall Outlook.... > > Oops, sorry bias showing through again. > > I'll have to let someone more knowledgeable on Outlook answer that. > Although, I seem to recall there is. > > Tools menu maybe? > Maybe it's a separate download from MS. > > -- > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well > preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, > shouting "What a great ride!" > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 17 14:40:50 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:40:50 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow email In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070717194052.7E4A7BD07@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Went searching and... http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/showpost.aspx?pageindex=4&siteid=17&post id=1836325&sb=0&d=1&at=7&ft=11&tf=0&pageid=2 Of particular interest is one a little bit down the page stating that if you click tools / options / security tab / OK (don't even have to do anything in the tab, just click on it) the problem goes away. And indeed it does. Although I have also read that you have to do that every time you open outlook... What a POS! John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:50 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow email http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA010563001033.aspx It's called Inbox Repair Tool but it is included with Outlook. Make a backup first. Good luck. GK On 7/17/07, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > On 7/17/07, jwcolby wrote: > > Maybe. The emails are there, I can read them, I can respond to them > > (with plenty of patience). Is there a "repair" option for a pst, > > and if so how do I do it. > > Start| Control Panel| Add Remove Programs | Uninstall Outlook.... > > Oops, sorry bias showing through again. > > I'll have to let someone more knowledgeable on Outlook answer that. > Although, I seem to recall there is. > > Tools menu maybe? > Maybe it's a separate download from MS. > > -- > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well > preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, > shouting "What a great ride!" > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Tue Jul 17 16:14:01 2007 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:14:01 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow email In-Reply-To: <20070717194052.7E4A7BD07@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <008201c7c8b7$66326ea0$6401a8c0@Kathryn> I assume that the offending email is not plain text. If you don't absolutely need it in rich text or html, then open the email, then Edit > Edit Message and then Format > Plain Text. Close the message and answer yes to saving it. I've never had your problem, but I'll bet that clears it up without having to do that security tab bit every time. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: 17 Jul 2007 12:41 pm > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow email > > Went searching and... > > http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/showpost.aspx?pageindex=4& > siteid=17&post > id=1836325&sb=0&d=1&at=7&ft=11&tf=0&pageid=2 > > Of particular interest is one a little bit down the page > stating that if you click tools / options / security tab / OK > (don't even have to do anything in the tab, just click on it) > the problem goes away. > > And indeed it does. Although I have also read that you have > to do that every time you open outlook... > > What a POS! > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:50 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow email > > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA010563001033.aspx > > It's called Inbox Repair Tool but it is included with Outlook. > > Make a backup first. Good luck. > > GK > > On 7/17/07, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > > On 7/17/07, jwcolby wrote: > > > Maybe. The emails are there, I can read them, I can > respond to them > > > (with plenty of patience). Is there a "repair" option for a pst, > > > and if so how do I do it. > > > > Start| Control Panel| Add Remove Programs | Uninstall Outlook.... > > > > Oops, sorry bias showing through again. > > > > I'll have to let someone more knowledgeable on Outlook answer that. > > Although, I seem to recall there is. > > > > Tools menu maybe? > > Maybe it's a separate download from MS. > > > > -- > > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com > > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well > > preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, > > shouting "What a great ride!" > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release > Date: 16 Jul 07 5:42 pm > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: 16 Jul 07 5:42 pm From ssharkins at setel.com Tue Jul 17 16:22:21 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:22:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow email In-Reply-To: <008201c7c8b7$66326ea0$6401a8c0@Kathryn> References: <20070717194052.7E4A7BD07@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> <008201c7c8b7$66326ea0$6401a8c0@Kathryn> Message-ID: <002c01c7c8b8$91186060$e334fad1@SusanOne> I use plain text and my email is as slow as molasses, but that's not Outlook, just my country bumpkin dial-up -- but I am going to cable in a few weeks. :) But, what John describes does happen to me occasionally. It's intermittent and I have no idea what causes it. After a few minutes, it seems to clear up on its own. In August or September I plan to reformat and start over. Susan H. I assume that the offending email is not plain text. If you don't absolutely need it in rich text or html, then open the email, then Edit > Edit Message and then Format > Plain Text. Close the message and answer yes to saving it. I've never had your problem, but I'll bet that clears it up without having to do that security tab bit every time. From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Tue Jul 17 19:21:18 2007 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:21:18 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Exporting from Outlook to Excel In-Reply-To: <001301c7c64d$2135e4b0$9232fad1@SusanOne> References: <001301c7c64d$2135e4b0$9232fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <469D5CFE.9090600@shaw.ca> Assuming you have your Outlook data in an ADODB recordset Just change the VBA code that is using an Access table put into an ADODB recordset. This was written for Access VBA to Excel. There are about a dozen ways to do this including using a linked xls file from the linked table manger, docmd.transferspreadsheet or direct ADO Here are a couple 'needs references to ADO and ADOX (ADO 2.7 Ext Lib) Dim oConn As ADODB.Connection Dim oCmd As ADODB.Command Dim oRS As ADODB.Recordset ' Open a connection to the Excel spreadsheet Set oConn = New ADODB.Connection oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _ "Data Source=Expenses.xls;" & _ "Extended Properties=""Excel 8.0;HDR=Yes;"";" '8.0 is Excel 97 ' Create a command object and set its ActiveConnection Set oCmd = New ADODB.Command oCmd.ActiveConnection = oConn ' This SQL statement selects a cell range in the "Expenses" ' worksheet ' oCmd.CommandText = "SELECT * from `Expenses$A2:C4`" ' This SQL statement selects a named cell range ' defined in the workbook oCmd.CommandText = "SELECT * from `Range1`" ' Open a recordset containing the worksheet data. Set oRS = New ADODB.Recordset oRS.Open oCmd, , adOpenKeyset, adLockOptimistic Debug.Print oRS.RecordCount 'From here you could move columns to a Access table ' Update last row of spreadsheet oRS.MoveLast oRS(0).Value = -1 oRS.Update ' Add a new row oRS.AddNew oRS(0).Value = 7 oRS(1).Value = 8 oRS(2).Value = 9 oRS.Update Debug.Print oRS.RecordCount Note: in the connection string, "HDR=Yes" means that there is a header row in the cell range (or named ranged), so the provider will NOT include the first row (of the selection) into the recordset. If "HDR=No", then the provider will include the first row (of the cell range or named ranged) into the recordset. --------------------- Another way this allows you to get at individual sheet names This is meant to run from VB so specifies mdb name, you could use currentDB 'ExportSpreadSheet "c:\excel\excelrankfunction.mdb","c:\excel\products.xls" ,"BooksXLS","Books" Sub ExportSpreadSheet(strAccessFile As String, strExcelFile As String, _ strAccessTable As String, strSheetName As String) 'Export Access table into named Excel worksheet 'needs ADO reference, using ADO 2.7 'Will not work if .xls file open Dim cnSrc As New ADODB.Connection Dim num_copied As Long Dim strSQL As String cnSrc.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _ "Data Source=" & strAccessFile & ";" strSQL = "SELECT * INTO [Excel 8.0;" & _ "Database=" & strExcelFile & "].[" & strSheetName & "] FROM " & _ strAccessTable Debug.Print strSQL cnSrc.Execute strSQL, num_copied cnSrc.Close MsgBox "Copied " & num_copied & " records." End Sub 'ImportSpreadSheet "c:\excel\excelrankfunction.mdb","c:\excel\products.xls" ,"BooksXLS","Books" Sub ImportSpreadSheet(strAccessFile As String, strExcelFile As String, _ strAccessTable As String, strSheetName As String) 'Import named Excel worksheet into Access table 'needs ADO reference, using ADO 2.7 ' Access table must not exist Dim cnSrc As New ADODB.Connection Dim num_copied As Long Dim strSQL cnSrc.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _ "Data Source=" & strAccessFile & ";" strSQL = "SELECT * INTO " & strAccessTable & " From [Excel 8.0;" & _ "Database=" & strExcelFile & "].[" & strSheetName & "]" Debug.Print strSQL cnSrc.Execute strSQL, num_copied cnSrc.Close MsgBox "Copied " & num_copied & " records." End Sub Susan Harkins wrote: >I tried the exporting code I'm using to export Outlook e-mail messages to >Access with Excel. I created a new DSN first and hoped it would work. First, >one of the properties balked, so I commented it out. The new DSN didn't like >the recordset's Update property -- said I needed an updateable query. > >Well, I just don't work enough with Excel VBA to know what the problem is. > >Can I use an ADODB Recordset object to copy data to an Excel worksheet? If >so, is there a different Update method I should use? > >Susan H. > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Tue Jul 17 19:23:21 2007 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:23:21 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA In-Reply-To: <005201c7c645$5beefae0$dab82ad1@SusanOne> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne> <46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> <000001c7c62f$4b59b000$dab82ad1@SusanOne> <46990492.4090009@shaw.ca> <004601c7c642$11540a50$dab82ad1@SusanOne> <005201c7c645$5beefae0$dab82ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <469D5D79.7080801@shaw.ca> You might want to hunt through http://www.outlookcode.com Some of the VBA code is wrtten for Outlook forms so you may have to look at the .frm files in NotePad. Susan Harkins wrote: >Well, here's an interesting behavior -- the wizard exports descriptions for >the Importance and Sensitivity properties, Normal shows up mostly. > >Using VBA to do the same, these properties export integers -- now I have to >find what the integers stand for. There is just no end to this... > >I still don't understand why Outlook exports fields/properties manually that >I can't seem to find using VBA. > >Susan H. > >Just in case anybody's curious -- this is the code I ended up using to get >the internal field names -- I call them fields, but Outlook calls them >properties -- this code gave me properties I don't want, but I can deal with >that. It seems like these "fields" or properties should be separate from the >others and maybe there is a way to get at them without the other properties, >but I couldn't find it: > >Sub GetFieldNames() >Dim myolApp As Application >Dim myNameSpace As Outlook.NameSpace >Dim myFolder As Outlook.MAPIFolder >Dim myItem As Outlook.MailItem >Dim prop As Object >Set myolApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application") >Set myNameSpace = myolApp.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set myFolder = >myNameSpace.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderInbox) >Set myItem = myFolder.Items(2) >For Each prop In myItem.ItemProperties > Debug.Print prop.Name >Next >End Sub > >Susan H. > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly >Sent: 14 July 2007 01:15 PM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA > >Usually the error I see here is > >adoRS("CCName") = .CCName >.CCName is Null and >adoRS("CCName")doesn't allow Nulls > >in the table field > >Occassionally on some models like WMI but not Outlook .CCName is defined as >an array rather than a string >adoRS("CCName") = .CCName(0) >so you pass the start of the null terminated array > > > >Susan Harkins wrote: > > > >>Marty, I'm using code. Here's what I'm currently using and it works >>fine, but I am confused about a few things: >> >>For intCounter = objFolder.Items.Count To 1 Step -1 >> >> '----- >> 'database and table can be open, but records won't show 'up until >>you close and reopen table. >> '----- >> >> With objFolder.Items(intCounter) >> If .Class = olMail Then >> adoRS.AddNew >> adoRS("Subject") = .Subject >> adoRS("Body") = .Body >> adoRS("FromName") = .SenderName >> adoRS("ToName") = .To >> 'adoRS("FromName") = .FromName >> 'adoRS("FromAddress") = .FromAddress >> 'adoRS("FromType") = .FromType >>' adoRS("ToName") = .ToName >>' adoRS("ToAddress") = .ToAddress >>' adoRS("ToType") = .ToType >>' adoRS("CCName") = .CCName >>' adoRS("CCAddress") = .CCAddress >>' adoRS("CCType") = .CCType >>' adoRS("BCCName") = .BCCName >>' adoRS("BCCAddress") = .BCCAddress >>' adoRS("BCCType") = .BCCType >>' adoRS("Importance") = .Importance >>' adoRS("Sensitivity") = .Sensitivity >> adoRS.Update >> End If >> End With >> Next >> >> >>First, I simply can't get a For Each right -- I'm sure that's my >>misunderstanding of the object model. I'd also rather use a second For >>Each to cycle through all the current mail item's "fields" -- but can't >>get that either. I tried to hard code them, but most throw an error -- >>as you can see by the comment out lines. >> >>To learn the field names, I used the export wizard to create a target >>database. I used the resulting table field names, but apparently, they >>don't match Outlook's internal names -- that just doesn't make good >>sense >> >> >to me. > > >>:( Does anyone know of a link that maps Outlook's internal field names? >>I'm totally lost. >> >>Susan H. >> >>Here is a sample of code. You'll need >>to modify it to accomplish what you want exactly. >>'From: "siebeneck yon (slc1yps)" >>Public Function ReadMail() >> >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >Marty Connelly >Victoria, B.C. >Canada > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 2007/07/12 >04:08 PM > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 2007/07/12 >04:08 PM > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 17 20:40:03 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:40:03 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow email In-Reply-To: <008201c7c8b7$66326ea0$6401a8c0@Kathryn> Message-ID: <20070718014004.82F74BD2C@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Kathryn, >If you don't absolutely need it in rich text or html, then These are emails from my clients, of which I get dozens a day. And yes it does appear to have something to do with html emails. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:14 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow email I assume that the offending email is not plain text. If you don't absolutely need it in rich text or html, then open the email, then Edit > Edit Message and then Format > Plain Text. Close the message and answer yes to saving it. I've never had your problem, but I'll bet that clears it up without having to do that security tab bit every time. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: 17 Jul 2007 12:41 pm > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow email > > Went searching and... > > http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/showpost.aspx?pageindex=4& > siteid=17&post > id=1836325&sb=0&d=1&at=7&ft=11&tf=0&pageid=2 > > Of particular interest is one a little bit down the page stating that > if you click tools / options / security tab / OK (don't even have to > do anything in the tab, just click on it) the problem goes away. > > And indeed it does. Although I have also read that you have to do > that every time you open outlook... > > What a POS! > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com From ssharkins at setel.com Tue Jul 17 20:57:00 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:57:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cycling through Outlook Items using VBA In-Reply-To: <469D5D79.7080801@shaw.ca> References: <002d01c7c551$aed20210$f434fad1@SusanOne><46983977.3030405@shaw.ca> <000001c7c62f$4b59b000$dab82ad1@SusanOne><46990492.4090009@shaw.ca> <004601c7c642$11540a50$dab82ad1@SusanOne><005201c7c645$5beefae0$dab82ad1@SusanOne> <469D5D79.7080801@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <001101c7c8de$f30aba90$d434fad1@SusanOne> I got it to work -- I just found it odd that I had to go about it the hard way. :) Susan H. You might want to hunt through http://www.outlookcode.com Some of the VBA code is wrtten for Outlook forms so you may have to look at the .frm files in NotePad. From ssharkins at setel.com Tue Jul 17 20:57:00 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:57:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Exporting from Outlook to Excel In-Reply-To: <469D5CFE.9090600@shaw.ca> References: <001301c7c64d$2135e4b0$9232fad1@SusanOne> <469D5CFE.9090600@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <001201c7c8de$f589c450$d434fad1@SusanOne> Thanks Marty, I'm going to hang on to that. :) Susan H. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly Sent: 17 July 2007 08:21 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Exporting from Outlook to Excel Assuming you have your Outlook data in an ADODB recordset Just change the VBA code that is using an Access table put into an ADODB recordset. This was written for Access VBA to Excel. There are about a dozen ways to do this including using a linked xls file from the linked table manger, docmd.transferspreadsheet or direct ADO Here are a couple 'needs references to ADO and ADOX (ADO 2.7 Ext Lib) Dim oConn As ADODB.Connection Dim oCmd As ADODB.Command Dim oRS As ADODB.Recordset ' Open a connection to the Excel spreadsheet Set oConn = New ADODB.Connection oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _ "Data Source=Expenses.xls;" & _ "Extended Properties=""Excel 8.0;HDR=Yes;"";" '8.0 is Excel 97 ' Create a command object and set its ActiveConnection Set oCmd = New ADODB.Command oCmd.ActiveConnection = oConn ' This SQL statement selects a cell range in the "Expenses" ' worksheet ' oCmd.CommandText = "SELECT * from `Expenses$A2:C4`" ' This SQL statement selects a named cell range ' defined in the workbook oCmd.CommandText = "SELECT * from `Range1`" ' Open a recordset containing the worksheet data. Set oRS = New ADODB.Recordset oRS.Open oCmd, , adOpenKeyset, adLockOptimistic Debug.Print oRS.RecordCount 'From here you could move columns to a Access table ' Update last row of spreadsheet oRS.MoveLast oRS(0).Value = -1 oRS.Update ' Add a new row oRS.AddNew oRS(0).Value = 7 oRS(1).Value = 8 oRS(2).Value = 9 oRS.Update Debug.Print oRS.RecordCount Note: in the connection string, "HDR=Yes" means that there is a header row in the cell range (or named ranged), so the provider will NOT include the first row (of the selection) into the recordset. If "HDR=No", then the provider will include the first row (of the cell range or named ranged) into the recordset. --------------------- Another way this allows you to get at individual sheet names This is meant to run from VB so specifies mdb name, you could use currentDB 'ExportSpreadSheet "c:\excel\excelrankfunction.mdb","c:\excel\products.xls" ,"BooksXLS","Books" Sub ExportSpreadSheet(strAccessFile As String, strExcelFile As String, _ strAccessTable As String, strSheetName As String) 'Export Access table into named Excel worksheet 'needs ADO reference, using ADO 2.7 'Will not work if .xls file open Dim cnSrc As New ADODB.Connection Dim num_copied As Long Dim strSQL As String cnSrc.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _ "Data Source=" & strAccessFile & ";" strSQL = "SELECT * INTO [Excel 8.0;" & _ "Database=" & strExcelFile & "].[" & strSheetName & "] FROM " & _ strAccessTable Debug.Print strSQL cnSrc.Execute strSQL, num_copied cnSrc.Close MsgBox "Copied " & num_copied & " records." End Sub 'ImportSpreadSheet "c:\excel\excelrankfunction.mdb","c:\excel\products.xls" ,"BooksXLS","Books" Sub ImportSpreadSheet(strAccessFile As String, strExcelFile As String, _ strAccessTable As String, strSheetName As String) 'Import named Excel worksheet into Access table 'needs ADO reference, using ADO 2.7 ' Access table must not exist Dim cnSrc As New ADODB.Connection Dim num_copied As Long Dim strSQL cnSrc.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _ "Data Source=" & strAccessFile & ";" strSQL = "SELECT * INTO " & strAccessTable & " From [Excel 8.0;" & _ "Database=" & strExcelFile & "].[" & strSheetName & "]" Debug.Print strSQL cnSrc.Execute strSQL, num_copied cnSrc.Close MsgBox "Copied " & num_copied & " records." End Sub Susan Harkins wrote: >I tried the exporting code I'm using to export Outlook e-mail messages >to Access with Excel. I created a new DSN first and hoped it would >work. First, one of the properties balked, so I commented it out. The >new DSN didn't like the recordset's Update property -- said I needed an updateable query. > >Well, I just don't work enough with Excel VBA to know what the problem is. > >Can I use an ADODB Recordset object to copy data to an Excel worksheet? >If so, is there a different Update method I should use? > >Susan H. > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.6/902 - Release Date: 2007/07/15 02:21 PM From ssharkins at setel.com Wed Jul 18 16:55:50 2007 From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:55:50 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] What do you guys think of Windows Defender Message-ID: <000001c7c986$69354d50$c0b62ad1@SusanOne> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Susan H. From jon at tydda.plus.com Wed Jul 18 17:09:28 2007 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:09:28 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] What do you guys think of Windows Defender In-Reply-To: <000001c7c986$69354d50$c0b62ad1@SusanOne> References: <000001c7c986$69354d50$c0b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005001c7c988$4facd310$0500a8c0@jt2b> I've got it, for various reasons. 1) it used to be Giant, which at the time was the best anti-spyware software available. 2) it's from a trusted source 3) it's free I run it regularly, alongside other AS software (Spybot, Ad-Aware, Counter Spy), and it doesn't find anything... Ever. At least, not for me. But you can't argue with the price :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: 18 July 2007 22:56 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] What do you guys think of Windows Defender http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From john at winhaven.net Wed Jul 18 17:21:19 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:21:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] What do you guys think of Windows Defender In-Reply-To: <000001c7c986$69354d50$c0b62ad1@SusanOne> References: <000001c7c986$69354d50$c0b62ad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <021101c7c989$f7f2b750$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Not of much use - I have never actually found anything serious with it. And, worse of all, I have read stories of performance issues being cleared up when it was removed. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins From john at winhaven.net Fri Jul 20 10:01:37 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:01:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Request for new DBA List to discuss specific subjects Message-ID: <00fe01c7cade$e0dae1e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> If anyone has a request for a new DBA list to discuss a specific subject please email me directly. Also, please leave this subject line in tact so I can sort these messages into a new email folder. Thanks, John Bartow, President Database Advisors, Inc. Email: mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 17:46:27 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:46:27 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] New install Message-ID: <29f585dd0707221546v11571bb6v76c546dd92d74273@mail.gmail.com> A horrible thing happened to me yesterday. I purchased a new monitor and unplugged my old one and shut off the box and plugged in the new one and turned it back on and suddenly everything went sideways -- endless loop of reboots. I took it to the local store and got Johnny to plonk in a new HD and to boot from there, and whew! It worked and I still have all the data on the big fat HD -- it's tough to back up a 250GB even when it's only about half full. Once I got the box back, I immediately backed up the important stuff and burned a CD and also copied it to my memory stick and thence to another box. What a relief! Oh God, this kind thing is tough on the heart of an old man like me. We're saved! More precisely, the work I did in the last couple of weeks is saved -- which at the most modest of our rates, represents lots of loot. There's an even better part to this story. My pal Johnny plonked in a new HD, made it the bootable one, reinstalled XP Media Edition, re-registered my copy and called me to tell me the box was ready. I got all my data back, although I do have to do some re-installing of software, but the performance is WAY WAY better than it was. This is not due to a faster HD. I think it's due to a clean registry. I run RegClean fairly often but apparently that is nowhere near enough to optimize performance. As a writer and developer and experimenter, I often put a lot of stuff on and then forget that's even there, which perhaps explains why more than half of the 250GB disk is occupied: things I used once or maybe twice, such as JDeveloper. Apparently this stuff adds up and you end up with a machine that runs at about 25% of what it's capable of with a clean install. So this time I'm going to try something new: install only what I need and only when I need it. I can't believe the difference in performance. You don't timers to notice. Compared to how the box performed before the crisis, the current performance is like lightning vs. sound. Suddenly computing is fun again, instead of "hurry up and wait". So, this story ends with a happy ending and a very happy camper. The only thing worse than writing code once is writing it twice. Fortunately, thanks to Johnny, I'm rescued and don't have to. I'm now attempting to set up a backup system that will be reliable and foolproof (wot a concept). In days of old there was a fantastic utility called JET from (IIRC) Pioneer Software. It was essentially a smarter xcopy, but with fabulous arguments that would let you do just about anything. I wish I could find a replacement for it, that would do the following: 1. copy all files changed today to the target; 2. copy all files, comparing dates on the target's file system, and copying newer versions + new files (recursively); 3. list all files changed today; 4. fix all the bugs in all files I changed today LOL. Somehow I guess the fourth requirement is beyond scope, but the other three ought to be within scope. Anyone know of a tool that can do the first three requirements? TIA, Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jul 22 18:19:11 2007 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:19:11 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] New install In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0707221546v11571bb6v76c546dd92d74273@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0JLL00FRLSJM0S80@l-daemon> Hi Arthur: It does not appear to be an unusual problem. At a clients site a couple of weeks ago just attached a new flat screen, rebooted and 'Blue Screen'. Monitors are definitely not 100% compatible. On one of my old 'beater boxes' there is a problem with the video card and when running my Win2000 on the box would 'Blue Screen' at regular intervals. I decided to attempt to install a version of Linux and see if a few more months could be got out of it. Well the screen still locks up at regular intervals but as Linux and its screen drivers are not integrated as Windows systems are, it just requires you to re-login and nothing is lost. That was 2 years ago. Glad to hear nothing was lost. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 3:46 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New install A horrible thing happened to me yesterday. I purchased a new monitor and unplugged my old one and shut off the box and plugged in the new one and turned it back on and suddenly everything went sideways -- endless loop of reboots. I took it to the local store and got Johnny to plonk in a new HD and to boot from there, and whew! It worked and I still have all the data on the big fat HD -- it's tough to back up a 250GB even when it's only about half full. Once I got the box back, I immediately backed up the important stuff and burned a CD and also copied it to my memory stick and thence to another box. What a relief! Oh God, this kind thing is tough on the heart of an old man like me. We're saved! More precisely, the work I did in the last couple of weeks is saved -- which at the most modest of our rates, represents lots of loot. There's an even better part to this story. My pal Johnny plonked in a new HD, made it the bootable one, reinstalled XP Media Edition, re-registered my copy and called me to tell me the box was ready. I got all my data back, although I do have to do some re-installing of software, but the performance is WAY WAY better than it was. This is not due to a faster HD. I think it's due to a clean registry. I run RegClean fairly often but apparently that is nowhere near enough to optimize performance. As a writer and developer and experimenter, I often put a lot of stuff on and then forget that's even there, which perhaps explains why more than half of the 250GB disk is occupied: things I used once or maybe twice, such as JDeveloper. Apparently this stuff adds up and you end up with a machine that runs at about 25% of what it's capable of with a clean install. So this time I'm going to try something new: install only what I need and only when I need it. I can't believe the difference in performance. You don't timers to notice. Compared to how the box performed before the crisis, the current performance is like lightning vs. sound. Suddenly computing is fun again, instead of "hurry up and wait". So, this story ends with a happy ending and a very happy camper. The only thing worse than writing code once is writing it twice. Fortunately, thanks to Johnny, I'm rescued and don't have to. I'm now attempting to set up a backup system that will be reliable and foolproof (wot a concept). In days of old there was a fantastic utility called JET from (IIRC) Pioneer Software. It was essentially a smarter xcopy, but with fabulous arguments that would let you do just about anything. I wish I could find a replacement for it, that would do the following: 1. copy all files changed today to the target; 2. copy all files, comparing dates on the target's file system, and copying newer versions + new files (recursively); 3. list all files changed today; 4. fix all the bugs in all files I changed today LOL. Somehow I guess the fourth requirement is beyond scope, but the other three ought to be within scope. Anyone know of a tool that can do the first three requirements? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun Jul 22 18:26:10 2007 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:26:10 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] New install In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0707221546v11571bb6v76c546dd92d74273@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0707221546v11571bb6v76c546dd92d74273@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A3E792.1080903@earthlink.net> >endless loop of reboots Did you catch the error msgs? What had the new monitor 'done'? PB ----- Arthur Fuller wrote: > A horrible thing happened to me yesterday. I purchased a new monitor and > unplugged my old one and shut off the box and plugged in the new one and > turned it back on and suddenly everything went sideways -- endless loop of > reboots. I took it to the local store and got Johnny to plonk in a new HD > and to boot from there, and whew! It worked and I still have all the data on > the big fat HD -- it's tough to back up a 250GB even when it's only about > half full. > > Once I got the box back, I immediately backed up the important stuff and > burned a CD and also copied it to my memory stick and thence to another box. > > What a relief! Oh God, this kind thing is tough on the heart of an old man > like me. We're saved! More precisely, the work I did in the last couple of > weeks is saved -- which at the most modest of our rates, represents lots of > loot. > > There's an even better part to this story. My pal Johnny plonked in a new > HD, made it the bootable one, reinstalled XP Media Edition, re-registered my > copy and called me to tell me the box was ready. I got all my data back, > although I do have to do some re-installing of software, but the performance > is WAY WAY better than it was. This is not due to a faster HD. I think it's > due to a clean registry. I run RegClean fairly often but apparently that is > nowhere near enough to optimize performance. > > As a writer and developer and experimenter, I often put a lot of stuff on > and then forget that's even there, which perhaps explains why more than half > of the 250GB disk is occupied: things I used once or maybe twice, such as > JDeveloper. Apparently this stuff adds up and you end up with a machine that > runs at about 25% of what it's capable of with a clean install. > > So this time I'm going to try something new: install only what I need and > only when I need it. > > I can't believe the difference in performance. You don't timers to notice. > Compared to how the box performed before the crisis, the current performance > is like lightning vs. sound. Suddenly computing is fun again, instead of > "hurry up and wait". > > So, this story ends with a happy ending and a very happy camper. The only > thing worse than writing code once is writing it twice. Fortunately, thanks > to Johnny, I'm rescued and don't have to. > > I'm now attempting to set up a backup system that will be reliable and > foolproof (wot a concept). In days of old there was a fantastic utility > called JET from (IIRC) Pioneer Software. It was essentially a smarter xcopy, > but with fabulous arguments that would let you do just about anything. I > wish I could find a replacement for it, that would do the following: > > 1. copy all files changed today to the target; > 2. copy all files, comparing dates on the target's file system, and copying > newer versions + new files (recursively); > 3. list all files changed today; > 4. fix all the bugs in all files I changed today LOL. > > Somehow I guess the fourth requirement is beyond scope, but the other three > ought to be within scope. Anyone know of a tool that can do the first three > requirements? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 20:43:55 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:43:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] New install In-Reply-To: <46A3E792.1080903@earthlink.net> References: <29f585dd0707221546v11571bb6v76c546dd92d74273@mail.gmail.com> <46A3E792.1080903@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <29f585dd0707221843h5647a6ebn479155ed73b678b1@mail.gmail.com> There were no error messages. The machine would boot, I'd momentarily see the XP logo, then we're rebooting again. Safe mode with any of the options resulted in the same behaviour. The important thing is that I got back my data. Makin' a list and checkin' it twice. Backup to CD every day is nice! On 7/22/07, Peter Brawley wrote: > > >endless loop of reboots > > Did you catch the error msgs? What had the new monitor 'done'? > > PB > > ----- > > Arthur Fuller wrote: > > A horrible thing happened to me yesterday. I purchased a new monitor and > > unplugged my old one and shut off the box and plugged in the new one and > > turned it back on and suddenly everything went sideways -- endless loop > of > > reboots. I took it to the local store and got Johnny to plonk in a new > HD > > and to boot from there, and whew! It worked and I still have all the > data on > > the big fat HD -- it's tough to back up a 250GB even when it's only > about > > half full. > > > > Once I got the box back, I immediately backed up the important stuff and > > burned a CD and also copied it to my memory stick and thence to another > box. > > > > What a relief! Oh God, this kind thing is tough on the heart of an old > man > > like me. We're saved! More precisely, the work I did in the last couple > of > > weeks is saved -- which at the most modest of our rates, represents lots > of > > loot. > > > > There's an even better part to this story. My pal Johnny plonked in a > new > > HD, made it the bootable one, reinstalled XP Media Edition, > re-registered my > > copy and called me to tell me the box was ready. I got all my data back, > > although I do have to do some re-installing of software, but the > performance > > is WAY WAY better than it was. This is not due to a faster HD. I think > it's > > due to a clean registry. I run RegClean fairly often but apparently that > is > > nowhere near enough to optimize performance. > > > > As a writer and developer and experimenter, I often put a lot of stuff > on > > and then forget that's even there, which perhaps explains why more than > half > > of the 250GB disk is occupied: things I used once or maybe twice, such > as > > JDeveloper. Apparently this stuff adds up and you end up with a machine > that > > runs at about 25% of what it's capable of with a clean install. > > > > So this time I'm going to try something new: install only what I need > and > > only when I need it. > > > > I can't believe the difference in performance. You don't timers to > notice. > > Compared to how the box performed before the crisis, the current > performance > > is like lightning vs. sound. Suddenly computing is fun again, instead of > > "hurry up and wait". > > > > So, this story ends with a happy ending and a very happy camper. The > only > > thing worse than writing code once is writing it twice. Fortunately, > thanks > > to Johnny, I'm rescued and don't have to. > > > > I'm now attempting to set up a backup system that will be reliable and > > foolproof (wot a concept). In days of old there was a fantastic utility > > called JET from (IIRC) Pioneer Software. It was essentially a smarter > xcopy, > > but with fabulous arguments that would let you do just about anything. I > > wish I could find a replacement for it, that would do the following: > > > > 1. copy all files changed today to the target; > > 2. copy all files, comparing dates on the target's file system, and > copying > > newer versions + new files (recursively); > > 3. list all files changed today; > > 4. fix all the bugs in all files I changed today LOL. > > > > Somehow I guess the fourth requirement is beyond scope, but the other > three > > ought to be within scope. Anyone know of a tool that can do the first > three > > requirements? > > > > TIA, > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 21:01:57 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:01:57 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Future of Programming, and a Provocative Book About It Message-ID: <29f585dd0707221901h28b51c55x89eae3664cba77de@mail.gmail.com> I'm reading a book by a guy who knows Java extremely well (he wrote about a dozen books on the topic) and in his opinion, Java's moment in the sun has passed. He proposes a couple of alternatives as the future: these do not include .NET but do include Ruby on Rails (RoR hereinafter). The book is called "Beyond Java" and it's by Bruce A. Tate and its ISBN is 0-596-10094-9. Whether or not you agree with his opinions, this man can write! I'm not all the way through the book yet, but it would appear that RoR is his candidate for Next Language (Paradigm) to Learn. He thinks that both Java and .NET are dead in their tracks, and cites numerous reasons why he thinks so. Even should you choose to disagree with his theses (which are explained in detail), this is the finest book on programming that I've read in years. A. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jul 22 22:00:36 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:00:36 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance Message-ID: <002701c7ccd5$a4f94b50$0301a8c0@HAL9005> I have a prospect in Ecuador that would like an on-line demo. I suggested Remote Assistance since we've both got it. I just tested it on two of my boxes here and it seems pretty easy. He' saying that I should issue the invitation to him. When I made the connection it was view only. What I'm wondering is if there's a way for him to see anything in my machine other than what's on my screen. MTIA Rocky From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jul 23 00:07:34 2007 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:07:34 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Future of Programming, and a Provocative Book About It In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0707221901h28b51c55x89eae3664cba77de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0JLM00GYD8O8F081@l-daemon> Hi Arthur: So what is his name? Is he Paul Graham? If it is there is an interesting interview with the fellow at: http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds12-3/paulgraham.html Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:02 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] The Future of Programming, and a Provocative Book About It I'm reading a book by a guy who knows Java extremely well (he wrote about a dozen books on the topic) and in his opinion, Java's moment in the sun has passed. He proposes a couple of alternatives as the future: these do not include .NET but do include Ruby on Rails (RoR hereinafter). The book is called "Beyond Java" and it's by Bruce A. Tate and its ISBN is 0-596-10094-9. Whether or not you agree with his opinions, this man can write! I'm not all the way through the book yet, but it would appear that RoR is his candidate for Next Language (Paradigm) to Learn. He thinks that both Java and .NET are dead in their tracks, and cites numerous reasons why he thinks so. Even should you choose to disagree with his theses (which are explained in detail), this is the finest book on programming that I've read in years. A. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jul 23 00:17:11 2007 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:17:11 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Future of Programming, and a Provocative Book About It In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0707221901h28b51c55x89eae3664cba77de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0JLM00CTN949Z071@l-daemon> Never mind... -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:02 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] The Future of Programming, and a Provocative Book About It I'm reading a book by a guy who knows Java extremely well (he wrote about a dozen books on the topic) and in his opinion, Java's moment in the sun has passed. He proposes a couple of alternatives as the future: these do not include .NET but do include Ruby on Rails (RoR hereinafter). The book is called "Beyond Java" and it's by Bruce A. Tate and its ISBN is 0-596-10094-9. Whether or not you agree with his opinions, this man can write! I'm not all the way through the book yet, but it would appear that RoR is his candidate for Next Language (Paradigm) to Learn. He thinks that both Java and .NET are dead in their tracks, and cites numerous reasons why he thinks so. Even should you choose to disagree with his theses (which are explained in detail), this is the finest book on programming that I've read in years. A. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 23 07:07:27 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:07:27 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance In-Reply-To: <002701c7ccd5$a4f94b50$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <20070723120735.94DFEBD66@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Remote assistance is designed to allow someone to remotely control a machine. You can control his machine, or he can control yours. Since the software runs on your machine he would have to control your machine which you do not want. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:01 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance I have a prospect in Ecuador that would like an on-line demo. I suggested Remote Assistance since we've both got it. I just tested it on two of my boxes here and it seems pretty easy. He' saying that I should issue the invitation to him. When I made the connection it was view only. What I'm wondering is if there's a way for him to see anything in my machine other than what's on my screen. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Mon Jul 23 08:51:28 2007 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:51:28 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance In-Reply-To: <002701c7ccd5$a4f94b50$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <002701c7ccd5$a4f94b50$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Rocky, Another way to give him a demo would be to use Captivate, you do the demo and it gets recorded, audio too. I believe you can get a 30 day demo for free, easy to use too. http://www.adobe.com/downloads/ Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:01 PM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance > > > > I have a prospect in Ecuador that would like an on-line demo. > I suggested > Remote Assistance since we've both got it. I just tested it > on two of my > boxes here and it seems pretty easy. > > He' saying that I should issue the invitation to him. When I made the > connection it was view only. What I'm wondering is if > there's a way for him > to see anything in my machine other than what's on my screen. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 23 09:01:07 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:01:07 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001901c7cd31$eace7900$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Ed: I think I need interactive as he will be asking questions and wanting to see different functions. Can't tell at the moment what he'll be interested in. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:51 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance Rocky, Another way to give him a demo would be to use Captivate, you do the demo and it gets recorded, audio too. I believe you can get a 30 day demo for free, easy to use too. http://www.adobe.com/downloads/ Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin at Beach Access Software > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:01 PM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance > > > > I have a prospect in Ecuador that would like an on-line demo. > I suggested > Remote Assistance since we've both got it. I just tested it on two of > my boxes here and it seems pretty easy. > > He' saying that I should issue the invitation to him. When I made the > connection it was view only. What I'm wondering is if there's a way > for him to see anything in my machine other than what's on my screen. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 7:02 PM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 23 09:04:49 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:04:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance In-Reply-To: <20070723120735.94DFEBD66@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Message-ID: <001a01c7cd32$6f3d84b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> When I tried it here, I sent an invitation from Machine #2 to machine #1. Machine #1 accepted and the connection status says "Connected/Screen View Only". So I'm trying to figure out a way from machine #1 that I can view/copy/alter files in Machine #2. I don't know the program well enough to feel perfectly comfortable with it. Do you know how #1 can control #2? TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:07 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance Remote assistance is designed to allow someone to remotely control a machine. You can control his machine, or he can control yours. Since the software runs on your machine he would have to control your machine which you do not want. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:01 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance I have a prospect in Ecuador that would like an on-line demo. I suggested Remote Assistance since we've both got it. I just tested it on two of my boxes here and it seems pretty easy. He' saying that I should issue the invitation to him. When I made the connection it was view only. What I'm wondering is if there's a way for him to see anything in my machine other than what's on my screen. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 7:02 PM From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 23 09:15:20 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:15:20 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance In-Reply-To: <001a01c7cd32$6f3d84b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <20070723141529.7384DBF06@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> I tried one time to do this with my sister-in-law and failed to get the connection (over the internet). I know nothing at all about this program except that it is designed to gain control of another machine in order to provide remote assistance to the remote machine, which implies remote control. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:05 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance When I tried it here, I sent an invitation from Machine #2 to machine #1. Machine #1 accepted and the connection status says "Connected/Screen View Only". So I'm trying to figure out a way from machine #1 that I can view/copy/alter files in Machine #2. I don't know the program well enough to feel perfectly comfortable with it. Do you know how #1 can control #2? TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:07 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance Remote assistance is designed to allow someone to remotely control a machine. You can control his machine, or he can control yours. Since the software runs on your machine he would have to control your machine which you do not want. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:01 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance I have a prospect in Ecuador that would like an on-line demo. I suggested Remote Assistance since we've both got it. I just tested it on two of my boxes here and it seems pretty easy. He' saying that I should issue the invitation to him. When I made the connection it was view only. What I'm wondering is if there's a way for him to see anything in my machine other than what's on my screen. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 7:02 PM _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 23 09:32:36 2007 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:32:36 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance In-Reply-To: <002701c7ccd5$a4f94b50$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <002701c7ccd5$a4f94b50$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <000801c7cd36$50befb50$0200a8c0@danwaters> Rocky, You can use a program like Go To My PC, which is mostly marketed as a way to get at your home or office PC while on the road, but also has features to demo over the web. You can control if the viewer can just view or has full control. If they have full control, you can turn it off instantly while you're watching your screen. I've use this, and it worked well. BOL! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:01 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance I have a prospect in Ecuador that would like an on-line demo. I suggested Remote Assistance since we've both got it. I just tested it on two of my boxes here and it seems pretty easy. He' saying that I should issue the invitation to him. When I made the connection it was view only. What I'm wondering is if there's a way for him to see anything in my machine other than what's on my screen. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Jul 23 09:53:43 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:53:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance In-Reply-To: <001a01c7cd32$6f3d84b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <20070723145352.68F17BCA1@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> Or for that matter something like VNC. I think it has the same ability. It does have the issue of setting up a port forward in your firewall though. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:05 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance When I tried it here, I sent an invitation from Machine #2 to machine #1. Machine #1 accepted and the connection status says "Connected/Screen View Only". So I'm trying to figure out a way from machine #1 that I can view/copy/alter files in Machine #2. I don't know the program well enough to feel perfectly comfortable with it. Do you know how #1 can control #2? TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:07 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance Remote assistance is designed to allow someone to remotely control a machine. You can control his machine, or he can control yours. Since the software runs on your machine he would have to control your machine which you do not want. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:01 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Assistance I have a prospect in Ecuador that would like an on-line demo. I suggested Remote Assistance since we've both got it. I just tested it on two of my boxes here and it seems pretty easy. He' saying that I should issue the invitation to him. When I made the connection it was view only. What I'm wondering is if there's a way for him to see anything in my machine other than what's on my screen. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 7:02 PM _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 13:11:53 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:11:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] International IE Settings Message-ID: Has anyone here ever had any experience with dealing with Chinese characters in IE? I've got an issue with identical settings on 2 different PCs, one showing the correct characters, the other showing the wrong characters. Anyone have any ideas? -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 23 13:12:42 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:12:42 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files Message-ID: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> I have some symphonies in mp3 files but each of the movements is in a separate file - so four files per symphony. Is there a way to combine them into one file? MTIA Rocky From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 13:19:26 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:19:26 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > I have some symphonies in mp3 files but each of the movements is in a > separate file - so four files per symphony. Is there a way to combine them > into one file? You certainly can, but you will need an audio editor. One that I have used before is called Audacity. It's a Free/Open source software and can be found at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Keep in mind, that if you want to export the finished file to an MP3, you will also need to get LAME MP3 encoder. Just see the Audacity Windows download page for the links. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 23 13:23:37 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:23:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <05ba01c7cd56$97cdffd0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I can do that in Sound Forge, I think Audacity can do that too (that would be the free open source sound tool). If you wish, send me he files offline and I'll put them together for you. From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 13:27:22 2007 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:27:22 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Yeah, Audacity is pretty cool. It's the software that is used with the USB Turntable I have. You can "clean up" the digitized files with it too. GK On 7/23/07, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software > wrote: > > > I have some symphonies in mp3 files but each of the movements is in a > > separate file - so four files per symphony. Is there a way to combine them > > into one file? > > You certainly can, but you will need an audio editor. > > One that I have used before is called Audacity. > > It's a Free/Open source software and can be found at > http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ > > Keep in mind, that if you want to export the finished file to an MP3, > you will also need to get LAME MP3 encoder. Just see the Audacity > Windows download page for the links. > > -- > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well > preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, > shouting "What a great ride!" > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Mon Jul 23 13:29:49 2007 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:29:49 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <46A4F39D.5020404@earthlink.net> Audacity writes LAME mp3 files. PB Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software > wrote: > > >> I have some symphonies in mp3 files but each of the movements is in a >> separate file - so four files per symphony. Is there a way to combine them >> into one file? >> > > You certainly can, but you will need an audio editor. > > One that I have used before is called Audacity. > > It's a Free/Open source software and can be found at > http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ > > Keep in mind, that if you want to export the finished file to an MP3, > you will also need to get LAME MP3 encoder. Just see the Audacity > Windows download page for the links. > > From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Mon Jul 23 13:24:18 2007 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:24:18 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B006A77B@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Keep in mind that when saving a decompressed MP3 files back in to an MP3 file (or whatever lossy compression) will result in a lesser quality than the original MP3 file. Its like saving a JPG again and again. I never seen a tool that can stick MP3 togheter without decompressing and compressing again, but maybe it does exist. Erwin -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Bryan Carbonnell Verzonden: maandag 23 juli 2007 20:19 Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > I have some symphonies in mp3 files but each of the movements is in a > separate file - so four files per symphony. Is there a way to combine > them into one file? You certainly can, but you will need an audio editor. One that I have used before is called Audacity. It's a Free/Open source software and can be found at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Keep in mind, that if you want to export the finished file to an MP3, you will also need to get LAME MP3 encoder. Just see the Audacity Windows download page for the links. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 13:36:38 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:36:38 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: <46A4F39D.5020404@earthlink.net> References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <46A4F39D.5020404@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 7/23/07, Peter Brawley wrote: > Audacity writes LAME mp3 files. Only if you download and install the LAME Encoder. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From mmattys at rochester.rr.com Mon Jul 23 14:21:48 2007 From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:21:48 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B006A77B@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <00c301c7cd5e$b8446b20$0202a8c0@Laptop> Right - you should go with shn if possible See here: http://www.research.umbc.edu/~hamilton/shnlinks.html Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erwin Craps - IT Helps" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files > Keep in mind that when saving a decompressed MP3 files back in to an MP3 > file (or whatever lossy compression) will result in a lesser quality > than the original MP3 file. > > Its like saving a JPG again and again. > > I never seen a tool that can stick MP3 togheter without decompressing > and compressing again, but maybe it does exist. > > Erwin > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Bryan Carbonnell > Verzonden: maandag 23 juli 2007 20:19 > Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files > > On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software > wrote: > >> I have some symphonies in mp3 files but each of the movements is in a >> separate file - so four files per symphony. Is there a way to combine > >> them into one file? > > You certainly can, but you will need an audio editor. > > One that I have used before is called Audacity. > > It's a Free/Open source software and can be found at > http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ > > Keep in mind, that if you want to export the finished file to an MP3, > you will also need to get LAME MP3 encoder. Just see the Audacity > Windows download page for the links. > > -- > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved > body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a > great ride!" > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Mon Jul 23 14:22:21 2007 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:22:21 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] International IE Settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46A4FFED.1050505@shaw.ca> You may need a downloadable Windows Langage Pack installed What version of Chinese is being used as a locale there are 5 You maybe missing a Font see below Set by Control Panel --> Internet Properties --> Language I have some test xml files displayable in IE for multiple languages but no Chinese just 2 different Japanese Have a look through Kaplan's Internationalize Blog http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/default.aspx Maybe http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2007/07/07/3738133.aspx Defualt Fonts Simplified Chinese will default to using SimSun (fallback to PMingLiu, then MS UI Gothic, then Batang) Traditional Chinese will default to using PMingLiu (fallback to SimSun, then MS Mincho, then Batang) http://www.codeproject.com/w2k/win2klang.asp Bryan Carbonnell wrote: >Has anyone here ever had any experience with dealing with Chinese >characters in IE? > >I've got an issue with identical settings on 2 different PCs, one >showing the correct characters, the other showing the wrong >characters. > >Anyone have any ideas? > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 14:34:38 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:34:38 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] International IE Settings In-Reply-To: <46A4FFED.1050505@shaw.ca> References: <46A4FFED.1050505@shaw.ca> Message-ID: On 7/23/07, MartyConnelly wrote: > You may need a downloadable Windows Langage Pack installed > What version of Chinese is being used as a locale there are 5 > You maybe missing a Font see below > > Set by > Control Panel --> Internet Properties --> Language Nope. Not missing a font, nice try :) And it's actually Internet Properties -> Fonts We both have the identical settings. Fonts and all. > I have some test xml files displayable in IE for multiple languages > but no Chinese just 2 different Japanese Are these freely available? If they are, I'd love to try and fine one that checks Chinese. > Have a look through Kaplan's Internationalize Blog > > http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/default.aspx > > Maybe > http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2007/07/07/3738133.aspx Thanks. I guess this is evening reading after I'm done updating my resume. > Defualt Fonts > Simplified Chinese will default to using SimSun (fallback to PMingLiu, > then MS UI Gothic, then Batang) > Traditional Chinese will default to using PMingLiu (fallback to SimSun, > then MS Mincho, then Batang) We are actually using Arial Unicode MS > http://www.codeproject.com/w2k/win2klang.asp More reading. Thanks Marty. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 23 14:36:19 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:36:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B006A77B@stekelbes.ithelps.local> References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B006A77B@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <05f401c7cd60$bff1fc50$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> True, but then are you playing these mp3s on a high quality sound system or via the speakers built in to the flat panel monitor case/ears buds/other lousy output device? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files Keep in mind that when saving a decompressed MP3 files back in to an MP3 file (or whatever lossy compression) will result in a lesser quality than the original MP3 file. Its like saving a JPG again and again. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 23 15:15:36 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:15:36 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006401c7cd66$3b5d5880$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Thanks Bryan. I'll give it a go. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:19 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > I have some symphonies in mp3 files but each of the movements is in a > separate file - so four files per symphony. Is there a way to combine > them into one file? You certainly can, but you will need an audio editor. One that I have used before is called Audacity. It's a Free/Open source software and can be found at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Keep in mind, that if you want to export the finished file to an MP3, you will also need to get LAME MP3 encoder. Just see the Audacity Windows download page for the links. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 7:02 PM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 23 15:16:02 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:16:02 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: <05ba01c7cd56$97cdffd0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <006501c7cd66$4b09f310$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Thanks John. If Audacity fails me (or I fail it), I might take you up on the offer. Best, Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:24 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files I can do that in Sound Forge, I think Audacity can do that too (that would be the free open source sound tool). If you wish, send me he files offline and I'll put them together for you. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 7:02 PM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 23 15:17:58 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:17:58 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] International IE Settings In-Reply-To: <46A4FFED.1050505@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <006601c7cd66$8fe1d9d0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Bryan: I assume you've installed the standard Windows supplied East Asian language support? Rocky Bryan Carbonnell wrote: >Has anyone here ever had any experience with dealing with Chinese >characters in IE? > >I've got an issue with identical settings on 2 different PCs, one >showing the correct characters, the other showing the wrong characters. > >Anyone have any ideas? > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 7:02 PM From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Mon Jul 23 15:41:17 2007 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:41:17 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005><430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B006A77B@stekelbes.ithelps.local> <05f401c7cd60$bff1fc50$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B49AD@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Also true, I always seem to have the impression that classic music lovers only listen to classic music on a more or less decent sound system. That is of course not true. I'm a bit of a fanatic (any) music lover... Erwin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:36 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files True, but then are you playing these mp3s on a high quality sound system or via the speakers built in to the flat panel monitor case/ears buds/other lousy output device? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files Keep in mind that when saving a decompressed MP3 files back in to an MP3 file (or whatever lossy compression) will result in a lesser quality than the original MP3 file. Its like saving a JPG again and again. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 23 15:58:47 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:58:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <007a01c7cd6c$438db170$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Got it! Works good. Pasted the four movements of Brahms' 1st together and exported as MP3 (after I found the lame dll). I'm using the speakers on the computer - fairly decent Altec's with a sub-woofer on the floor. I can't tell the difference on these speakers. Thanks for a great lead! Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:19 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > I have some symphonies in mp3 files but each of the movements is in a > separate file - so four files per symphony. Is there a way to combine > them into one file? You certainly can, but you will need an audio editor. One that I have used before is called Audacity. It's a Free/Open source software and can be found at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Keep in mind, that if you want to export the finished file to an MP3, you will also need to get LAME MP3 encoder. Just see the Audacity Windows download page for the links. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 7:02 PM From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 23 17:37:01 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:37:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B49AD@stekelbes.ithelps.local> References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005><430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B006A77B@stekelbes.ithelps.local><05f401c7cd60$bff1fc50$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B49AD@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <066701c7cd79$fd6ca080$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I used to have top of the stereo equipment and cared for everything like it was thin sheets of glass. Now I burn everything to MP3 and listen to it in my office on tinny speakers if I have to ;o) I have a pretty nice speaker set with subwoofer but I don't turn up loud enough to make a difference. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:41 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files Also true, I always seem to have the impression that classic music lovers only listen to classic music on a more or less decent sound system. That is of course not true. I'm a bit of a fanatic (any) music lover... Erwin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:36 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files True, but then are you playing these mp3s on a high quality sound system or via the speakers built in to the flat panel monitor case/ears buds/other lousy output device? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files Keep in mind that when saving a decompressed MP3 files back in to an MP3 file (or whatever lossy compression) will result in a lesser quality than the original MP3 file. Its like saving a JPG again and again. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Mon Jul 23 18:11:56 2007 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:11:56 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005><430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B006A77B@stekelbes.ithelps.local><05f401c7cd60$bff1fc50$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B49AD@stekelbes.ithelps.local> <066701c7cd79$fd6ca080$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B49AF@stekelbes.ithelps.local> I dont like MP3 (or any lossy compression) I keep hearing the compression at any rate. I got me a Creative Zen Vison M 60GB and some very good Sony in-ear plugs. With those I got a very good sound (esspecialy bass) and more important in-ear plugs shuts off environmental sounds. The volume doesnt need to be that loud as with other ear sets to get some decent sound. I can advice everybody to use in-ear plugs... I bought that because I got kids always making noise and my wife cant stand loud music at home. Anyway, My Zen only supports up to 320Kbps, I can still here compression at that rate, I would prefer VBR instead of CBR, but it does not support VBR. On my computer I only use WMA lossless, ripped from real cd's (!), on my regular soundsystem I can't listen to MP3, the cracking in voices and instruments just irritates me and I cant enjoye listen to it, unless I'm busy dooing household stuff :-) Classic Music and MP3 don't go to well togheter. Instruments just compleetly disapear. But ofcourse if you just want to have some muzak while working thats ok.. Erwin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:37 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files I used to have top of the stereo equipment and cared for everything like it was thin sheets of glass. Now I burn everything to MP3 and listen to it in my office on tinny speakers if I have to ;o) I have a pretty nice speaker set with subwoofer but I don't turn up loud enough to make a difference. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:41 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files Also true, I always seem to have the impression that classic music lovers only listen to classic music on a more or less decent sound system. That is of course not true. I'm a bit of a fanatic (any) music lover... Erwin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:36 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files True, but then are you playing these mp3s on a high quality sound system or via the speakers built in to the flat panel monitor case/ears buds/other lousy output device? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files Keep in mind that when saving a decompressed MP3 files back in to an MP3 file (or whatever lossy compression) will result in a lesser quality than the original MP3 file. Its like saving a JPG again and again. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 20:10:38 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:10:38 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] International IE Settings In-Reply-To: <006601c7cd66$8fe1d9d0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <46A4FFED.1050505@shaw.ca> <006601c7cd66$8fe1d9d0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Bryan: > > I assume you've installed the standard Windows supplied East Asian language > support? Yep. My PC appears to be fine, it other folks that are having the issue. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 23 21:17:55 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:17:55 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] International IE Settings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00a601c7cd98$d8adcb60$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Then do THEY have the asian east language support installed? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:11 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] International IE Settings On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Bryan: > > I assume you've installed the standard Windows supplied East Asian > language support? Yep. My PC appears to be fine, it other folks that are having the issue. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 7:02 PM From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 21:51:41 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:51:41 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] International IE Settings In-Reply-To: <00a601c7cd98$d8adcb60$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <00a601c7cd98$d8adcb60$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: On 7/23/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Then do THEY have the asian east language support installed? Yes AFAIK they do. I sure HOPE they do, they are the translator for a project I'm working on. Maybe I'll just ask. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 23 21:53:47 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:53:47 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files In-Reply-To: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B49AF@stekelbes.ithelps.local> References: <004801c7cd55$102f0660$0301a8c0@HAL9005><430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B006A77B@stekelbes.ithelps.local><05f401c7cd60$bff1fc50$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B49AD@stekelbes.ithelps.local><066701c7cd79$fd6ca080$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B01B49AF@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <06b701c7cd9d$dc3a3430$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> With CDs the music is pretty crisp and clear but have you listened to an 8 track, cassette or vinyl LP lately? :o) That's what I was raised on. Or as I lovely refer to them: Snap, Crackle and Pop. MOst of my mp3s are ripped from CDs and, yes, I guess I'm pretty much just using MP3s as background muzak ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:12 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Combine mp3 files I dont like MP3 (or any lossy compression) I keep hearing the compression at any rate. I got me a Creative Zen Vison M 60GB and some very good Sony in-ear plugs. With those I got a very good sound (esspecialy bass) and more important in-ear plugs shuts off environmental sounds. The volume doesnt need to be that loud as with other ear sets to get some decent sound. I can advice everybody to use in-ear plugs... I bought that because I got kids always making noise and my wife cant stand loud music at home. Anyway, My Zen only supports up to 320Kbps, I can still here compression at that rate, I would prefer VBR instead of CBR, but it does not support VBR. On my computer I only use WMA lossless, ripped from real cd's (!), on my regular soundsystem I can't listen to MP3, the cracking in voices and instruments just irritates me and I cant enjoye listen to it, unless I'm busy dooing household stuff :-) Classic Music and MP3 don't go to well togheter. Instruments just compleetly disapear. But ofcourse if you just want to have some muzak while working thats ok.. Erwin From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 07:07:15 2007 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:07:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook Junk Folder Filter Message-ID: <002e01c7cf7d$878747c0$2532fad1@SusanOne> A month or so ago, I downloaded a new Outlook filter during the normal automated download process. It's gone nuts -- filtering very inappropriate emails into the junk folder. It isn't a problem because I check the folder regularly, but has anyone else noticed this? Susan H. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 26 07:18:49 2007 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:18:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook Junk Folder Filter In-Reply-To: <002e01c7cf7d$878747c0$2532fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <00e801c7cf7f$1f775920$0301a8c0@HAL9005> I'm running Outlook 2003 (11.8010.8036) SP2 and haven't had but very few emails go into junk that are not junk. When that happens I add the sender to the safe list right away so that may account for my good result. But I haven't seen what you're seeing. Do you know what patch it was? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:07 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook Junk Folder Filter A month or so ago, I downloaded a new Outlook filter during the normal automated download process. It's gone nuts -- filtering very inappropriate emails into the junk folder. It isn't a problem because I check the folder regularly, but has anyone else noticed this? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/918 - Release Date: 7/25/2007 2:55 PM From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 07:44:35 2007 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:44:35 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook Junk Folder Filter In-Reply-To: <00e801c7cf7f$1f775920$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <002e01c7cf7d$878747c0$2532fad1@SusanOne> <00e801c7cf7f$1f775920$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <000701c7cf82$c01d9210$5f32fad1@SusanOne> No, only that it showed up on the automatic downloads a few weeks (???) ago. I'm sure that's the problem because some of these senders have been sending me mail for a long time and that's the only thing that's changed. Susan H. I'm running Outlook 2003 (11.8010.8036) SP2 and haven't had but very few emails go into junk that are not junk. When that happens I add the sender to the safe list right away so that may account for my good result. But I haven't seen what you're seeing. Do you know what patch it was? From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Jul 26 08:09:35 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:09:35 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook Junk Folder Filter In-Reply-To: <000701c7cf82$c01d9210$5f32fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <20070726130949.AACE7BC7F@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> I wish the junk mail filter worked a little better. I get the SAME junk mail (pictures of adobe and such) day after day from various sources. The only thing I can do is place the SENDER on a "do not allow" list. What about the content? All in all the built-in junk filter is very bad. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:45 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook Junk Folder Filter No, only that it showed up on the automatic downloads a few weeks (???) ago. I'm sure that's the problem because some of these senders have been sending me mail for a long time and that's the only thing that's changed. Susan H. I'm running Outlook 2003 (11.8010.8036) SP2 and haven't had but very few emails go into junk that are not junk. When that happens I add the sender to the safe list right away so that may account for my good result. But I haven't seen what you're seeing. Do you know what patch it was? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Thu Jul 26 09:46:12 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:46:12 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook Junk Folder Filter In-Reply-To: <002e01c7cf7d$878747c0$2532fad1@SusanOne> References: <002e01c7cf7d$878747c0$2532fad1@SusanOne> Message-ID: <01f601c7cf93$b6b95590$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Susan, You can tweak the junk mail filter a bit, go to Tools | Options [Junk Mail] The built in filter is better than nothing I guess. I get thousands a week so it was not doing the trick for me anymore. I tested a number of products and the only one which worked almost all of the time and didn't take a lot of setup work was CA's Anti-Spam. If Junk is a problem I would highly recommend it. If not then I would just use the built-in and put up with the occasional hassle. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:07 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook Junk Folder Filter A month or so ago, I downloaded a new Outlook filter during the normal automated download process. It's gone nuts -- filtering very inappropriate emails into the junk folder. It isn't a problem because I check the folder regularly, but has anyone else noticed this? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 13:12:23 2007 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:12:23 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Outlook Junk Folder Filter In-Reply-To: <01f601c7cf93$b6b95590$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <002e01c7cf7d$878747c0$2532fad1@SusanOne> <01f601c7cf93$b6b95590$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <007501c7cfb0$8b0e1c60$7232fad1@SusanOne> It's not a problem, I was just curious if anyone else had noticed a difference. But thanks for the tweaking advice -- I'll take a look. Susan H. You can tweak the junk mail filter a bit, go to Tools | Options [Junk Mail] The built in filter is better than nothing I guess. I get thousands a week so it was not doing the trick for me anymore. I tested a number of products and the only one which worked almost all of the time and didn't take a lot of setup work was CA's Anti-Spam. If Junk is a problem I would highly recommend it. If not then I would just use the built-in and put up with the occasional hassle. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 22:14:08 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:14:08 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Repeat Recommendation Message-ID: <29f585dd0707262014j6d798e08y33857c400e12d45e@mail.gmail.com> I'm -not quite finished this book yet, but I can safely say it's the best book about software I've read in years. It's called "Beyond Java" by Bruce A. Tate and its ISBN is 0-596-10094-9. O'Reilly is the publisher. It's a critique of Java, from the point of view of someone who's written a dozen or so books on the subject, but more importantly a description of the next big thing that will replace Java. His current candidate for that title is Ruby on Rails. I have no vested interest in recommending this book. I don't own a share of O'Reilly; in fact I don't even know if it's a public company. I don't know Bruce, although I wish I did, because it never is a bad idea to hang with people way smarter than you. In short, no closet interest in this recommendation, just a statement that this book has made me think, and think hard, about where we are and where we're going. Arthur From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jul 27 06:06:09 2007 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:06:09 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Repeat Recommendation Message-ID: Hi Arthur If you come to a conclusion, please share (would save me a book purchase, and I wouldn't find the time for reading it anyway) - as you know, I value you opinions. I'm struggling with dot net and don't even know where I could start with Ruby on Rails, not to say why(!) /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 27-07-2007 05:14 >>> I'm -not quite finished this book yet, but I can safely say it's the best book about software I've read in years. It's called "Beyond Java" by Bruce A. Tate and its ISBN is 0-596-10094-9. O'Reilly is the publisher. It's a critique of Java, from the point of view of someone who's written a dozen or so books on the subject, but more importantly a description of the next big thing that will replace Java. His current candidate for that title is Ruby on Rails. I have no vested interest in recommending this book. I don't own a share of O'Reilly; in fact I don't even know if it's a public company. I don't know Bruce, although I wish I did, because it never is a bad idea to hang with people way smarter than you. In short, no closet interest in this recommendation, just a statement that this book has made me think, and think hard, about where we are and where we're going. Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jul 28 03:39:03 2007 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:39:03 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Repeat Recommendation In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0707262014j6d798e08y33857c400e12d45e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0JLV00D2YRTQ3T52@l-daemon> Arthur; Doesn't Bruce recommend RoR as the language of choice and that would seem odd going from an object based language to a procedural based one?? Any comments? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:14 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Repeat Recommendation I'm -not quite finished this book yet, but I can safely say it's the best book about software I've read in years. It's called "Beyond Java" by Bruce A. Tate and its ISBN is 0-596-10094-9. O'Reilly is the publisher. It's a critique of Java, from the point of view of someone who's written a dozen or so books on the subject, but more importantly a description of the next big thing that will replace Java. His current candidate for that title is Ruby on Rails. I have no vested interest in recommending this book. I don't own a share of O'Reilly; in fact I don't even know if it's a public company. I don't know Bruce, although I wish I did, because it never is a bad idea to hang with people way smarter than you. In short, no closet interest in this recommendation, just a statement that this book has made me think, and think hard, about where we are and where we're going. Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 07:06:43 2007 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:06:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Repeat Recommendation In-Reply-To: <0JLV00D2YRTQ3T52@l-daemon> References: <29f585dd0707262014j6d798e08y33857c400e12d45e@mail.gmail.com> <0JLV00D2YRTQ3T52@l-daemon> Message-ID: <29f585dd0707280506x22238611ma70971a78432217e@mail.gmail.com> Ruby is a pure o-o language, from what I can see. It's a lot like Java but uses different keywords here and there, like def (for define). Arthur On 7/28/07, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Arthur; Doesn't Bruce recommend RoR as the language of choice and that > would > seem odd going from an object based language to a procedural based one?? > > Any comments? > > Jim > From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 30 17:47:06 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:47:06 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account Message-ID: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I always disable the guest account in WinXP. I am just setting up a new Dell laptop that came with the Dell Network Assistant so I decided to run it and see what it would do. The very firs thing it did was ask me to turn on the Guest account because "having it disabled can cause file sharing problems". Has anyone experienced problems by having the guest account disabled? Or know specifically why they want it enabled? John From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Jul 30 17:58:12 2007 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:58:12 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account In-Reply-To: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b> It's disabled on every PC I use, and on all the PCs at work, I've never seen anything about any sharing issues with it. Maybe it's a Dell thing. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: 30 July 2007 23:47 To: _DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account I always disable the guest account in WinXP. I am just setting up a new Dell laptop that came with the Dell Network Assistant so I decided to run it and see what it would do. The very firs thing it did was ask me to turn on the Guest account because "having it disabled can cause file sharing problems". Has anyone experienced problems by having the guest account disabled? Or know specifically why they want it enabled? John _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 30 18:07:09 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:07:09 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account In-Reply-To: <003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b> References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b> Message-ID: <002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Don't know but it just barked at me about it again. Its one of those pretty GUI things that are supposed to allow ordinary people to set up small networks. In my experience they let ordinary people screw things up really bad before they call someone in to help ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:58 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account It's disabled on every PC I use, and on all the PCs at work, I've never seen anything about any sharing issues with it. Maybe it's a Dell thing. From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Jul 30 18:15:43 2007 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:15:43 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account In-Reply-To: <002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b> <002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <003a01c7d2ff$8db3c210$0500a8c0@jt2b> Yeah, sounds about right :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: 31 July 2007 00:07 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account Don't know but it just barked at me about it again. Its one of those pretty GUI things that are supposed to allow ordinary people to set up small networks. In my experience they let ordinary people screw things up really bad before they call someone in to help ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:58 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account It's disabled on every PC I use, and on all the PCs at work, I've never seen anything about any sharing issues with it. Maybe it's a Dell thing. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 19:48:59 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:48:59 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account In-Reply-To: <002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b> <002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: On 7/30/07, John Bartow wrote: > Don't know but it just barked at me about it again. Bark back. You don't need it. > Its one of those pretty GUI things that are supposed to allow ordinary > people to set up small networks. In my experience they let ordinary people > screw things up really bad before they call someone in to help ;o) They probably want it on so that when any other PC with the guest account enabled will be able to access your files. The easiest way to do file sharing is to have the same named account on all the PCs with the same password. I do file sharing between my laptop and desktop all the time with the guest account off. Heck I even have sharing setup and working between Diane's PC and mine and she doesn't have the "shared" account that my laptop and desktop do. She just has the username and password and it works just fine. You're right. The Dell thing is to let people screw their PCs up so badly that you get rich and famous off of it :) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 30 23:10:52 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:10:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account In-Reply-To: References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b><002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <008a01c7d328$c94b3410$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I've never heard of a networking reason for having it enabled before but you're correct about the same account with the same password issue - which is why it is disabled from a security standpoint. Since I got involved in security in the early 90s the rule of thumb is never leave an account with a name that everyone already knows. One reason "SU" and "Administrator" are so dangerous out of the box. Rich & Famous - I'll have to leave in on, eh? I just thought I'd check it out before I de-crapify the machine and it was a curiosity :o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:49 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Guest account On 7/30/07, John Bartow wrote: > Don't know but it just barked at me about it again. Bark back. You don't need it. > Its one of those pretty GUI things that are supposed to allow ordinary > people to set up small networks. In my experience they let ordinary > people screw things up really bad before they call someone in to help > ;o) They probably want it on so that when any other PC with the guest account enabled will be able to access your files. The easiest way to do file sharing is to have the same named account on all the PCs with the same password. I do file sharing between my laptop and desktop all the time with the guest account off. Heck I even have sharing setup and working between Diane's PC and mine and she doesn't have the "shared" account that my laptop and desktop do. She just has the username and password and it works just fine. You're right. The Dell thing is to let people screw their PCs up so badly that you get rich and famous off of it :) From carbonnb at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 06:53:51 2007 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:53:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account In-Reply-To: <008a01c7d328$c94b3410$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b> <002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> <008a01c7d328$c94b3410$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: On 7/31/07, John Bartow wrote: > Rich & Famous - I'll have to leave in on, eh? Absolutely > I just thought I'd check it out before I de-crapify the machine and it was a > curiosity :o) I have the feeling it is set up to keep the support the support calls to a bare minimum. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 31 10:40:37 2007 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:40:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account In-Reply-To: References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><003601c7d2fd$1af59750$0500a8c0@jt2b><002c01c7d2fe$5b06ffe0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq><008a01c7d328$c94b3410$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <018a01c7d389$24bb6670$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> I think you have it! I've been asking myself they would spend the time and money on something like this. They can probably also train their call center people on how to use it easier than teaching windows/networking. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell > I just thought I'd check it out before I de-crapify the machine and it > was a curiosity :o) I have the feeling it is set up to keep the support calls to a bare minimum. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jul 31 20:50:57 2007 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:50:57 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Guest account In-Reply-To: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> References: <002401c7d2fb$8fc316e0$6402a8c0@ScuzzPaq> Message-ID: <46AFE701.15301.62A71B30@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Depends on what sort of sharing you are setting up on your network. If you use "Simple File Sharing", XP will always connect to shares using the Guest Account. In that situation, it can be problematic to disable the account. If you use classic file sharing, it's not a problem. On 30 Jul 2007 at 17:47, John Bartow wrote: > I always disable the guest account in WinXP. I am just setting up a new Dell > laptop that came with the Dell Network Assistant so I decided to run it and > see what it would do. The very firs thing it did was ask me to turn on the > Guest account because "having it disabled can cause file sharing problems". > > Has anyone experienced problems by having the guest account disabled? Or > know specifically why they want it enabled? > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Jul 31 21:46:48 2007 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:46:48 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hamachi on the road Message-ID: <20070801024649.DBE60BD3B@smtp-auth.no-ip.com> I set up Hamachi on my three servers before I left home, as well as my laptop which I have with me. I bought the pay version, one month license, for each server. That basically gives me the ability to load it as a service which is not available with the free version. Tonight I am in a hotel with "high speed internet" and I can see all of the shares on all of my servers, right over the Hamachi link. I can also remote desktop in to all three machines over the Hamachi IP address. COOL stuff. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com