From erbachs at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 05:58:12 2008
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 05:58:12 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...
In-Reply-To: <003301c8c338$0bcc6a70$1800a8c0@s1800>
References: <39cb22f30805271516g60847c60t318cb50cdac037a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<007601c8c10f$d80efbf0$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300316o33b0a55cue8955e520dfe08bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<006401c8c24b$aa659960$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300617ic652504h1f8fcdc6a8e0ff97@mail.gmail.com>
	<763F268DA7974CDBAAF9E52D6BB649A5@BPCS>
	<39cb22f30805301813s4337b2aeg2d0e5870b6c656a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<003301c8c338$0bcc6a70$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30806010358v69e756d6s272ff6e46c7b35e@mail.gmail.com>

Lembit,

Now, now...the reason I started this thread was to ask how to take a
GOOD drive from one system and get it working in another.  Backup is a
different beast.

Steve Erbach

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Lembit Soobik
<lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote:
> "He said that he's familiar with
> Acronis but he just carries around a spare IDE card and cable for that
> kind of work.  No image drive necessary."
>
> so, once a drive fails, he picks his IDE card and magically has all his data
> back.
> so simple.
> ehmmm - does he use his 60-foot flat panel for that magic?
>
> Lembit
>


From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sun Jun  1 09:19:36 2008
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 16:19:36 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...
References: <39cb22f30805271516g60847c60t318cb50cdac037a5@mail.gmail.com><007601c8c10f$d80efbf0$1800a8c0@s1800><39cb22f30805300316o33b0a55cue8955e520dfe08bd@mail.gmail.com><006401c8c24b$aa659960$1800a8c0@s1800><39cb22f30805300617ic652504h1f8fcdc6a8e0ff97@mail.gmail.com><763F268DA7974CDBAAF9E52D6BB649A5@BPCS><39cb22f30805301813s4337b2aeg2d0e5870b6c656a7@mail.gmail.com><003301c8c338$0bcc6a70$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30806010358v69e756d6s272ff6e46c7b35e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004601c8c3f2$854c4810$1800a8c0@s1800>

yes, right. sorry.
Since I'm used to always do backup images to other machines on the network, 
in my environment it would be the logical thing to do to use the latest 
image for the new machine. also, somehow I was under the impression thst the 
old machine had failed....
Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...


> Lembit,
>
> Now, now...the reason I started this thread was to ask how to take a
> GOOD drive from one system and get it working in another.  Backup is a
> different beast.
>
> Steve Erbach
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Lembit Soobik
> <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote:
>> "He said that he's familiar with
>> Acronis but he just carries around a spare IDE card and cable for that
>> kind of work.  No image drive necessary."
>>
>> so, once a drive fails, he picks his IDE card and magically has all his 
>> data
>> back.
>> so simple.
>> ehmmm - does he use his 60-foot flat panel for that magic?
>>
>> Lembit
>>
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From bill_patten at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun  1 11:06:02 2008
From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 09:06:02 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30806010358v69e756d6s272ff6e46c7b35e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39cb22f30805271516g60847c60t318cb50cdac037a5@mail.gmail.com><007601c8c10f$d80efbf0$1800a8c0@s1800><39cb22f30805300316o33b0a55cue8955e520dfe08bd@mail.gmail.com><006401c8c24b$aa659960$1800a8c0@s1800><39cb22f30805300617ic652504h1f8fcdc6a8e0ff97@mail.gmail.com><763F268DA7974CDBAAF9E52D6BB649A5@BPCS><39cb22f30805301813s4337b2aeg2d0e5870b6c656a7@mail.gmail.com><003301c8c338$0bcc6a70$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30806010358v69e756d6s272ff6e46c7b35e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E6D2D5FD61BB4C219609EF6D0F5E9239@BPCS>

Hey Steve, you are of course correct, a backup is a different beast, however 
as long as you have NAS or another PC with with room to store the backup on 
it's the same amount of work. And the added bonus of having a backup should 
the "New" drive fail in a couple of days.

Oh and by the way, you can use Acronis to clone directly from one drive to 
another (But this wouldn't allow you to use the Universal Restore feature). 
Since server backup software is very expensive I have 2 250G SATA Drives and 
clone my server once a month, then run the server on the new clone to make 
sure that it is good copy and set the other aside for backup.

Obviously my server isn't mission critical. <Grin>


Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...


Lembit,

Now, now...the reason I started this thread was to ask how to take a
GOOD drive from one system and get it working in another.  Backup is a
different beast.

Steve Erbach

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Lembit Soobik
<lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote:
> "He said that he's familiar with
> Acronis but he just carries around a spare IDE card and cable for that
> kind of work.  No image drive necessary."
>
> so, once a drive fails, he picks his IDE card and magically has all his 
> data
> back.
> so simple.
> ehmmm - does he use his 60-foot flat panel for that magic?
>
> Lembit
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun  1 11:42:00 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:42:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...
In-Reply-To: <E6D2D5FD61BB4C219609EF6D0F5E9239@BPCS>
References: <39cb22f30805271516g60847c60t318cb50cdac037a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<007601c8c10f$d80efbf0$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300316o33b0a55cue8955e520dfe08bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<006401c8c24b$aa659960$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300617ic652504h1f8fcdc6a8e0ff97@mail.gmail.com>
	<763F268DA7974CDBAAF9E52D6BB649A5@BPCS>
	<39cb22f30805301813s4337b2aeg2d0e5870b6c656a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<003301c8c338$0bcc6a70$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30806010358v69e756d6s272ff6e46c7b35e@mail.gmail.com>
	<E6D2D5FD61BB4C219609EF6D0F5E9239@BPCS>
Message-ID: <138188B57C9E4B119BDDDEFC65A35ECE@creativesystemdesigns.com>

As it seems that the conscientious is that Acronis is the best package for a
complete image and boot sector drive backup and restore what would be the
appropriate package(s) within their product group to best perform this/these
tasks?

I wish to be able to easily clone a pefect copy of a master drive onto a new
hard drive.... and then be able to boot up immediately.

MTIA

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:06 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...

Hey Steve, you are of course correct, a backup is a different beast, however

as long as you have NAS or another PC with with room to store the backup on 
it's the same amount of work. And the added bonus of having a backup should 
the "New" drive fail in a couple of days.

Oh and by the way, you can use Acronis to clone directly from one drive to 
another (But this wouldn't allow you to use the Universal Restore feature). 
Since server backup software is very expensive I have 2 250G SATA Drives and

clone my server once a month, then run the server on the new clone to make 
sure that it is good copy and set the other aside for backup.

Obviously my server isn't mission critical. <Grin>


Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...


Lembit,

Now, now...the reason I started this thread was to ask how to take a
GOOD drive from one system and get it working in another.  Backup is a
different beast.

Steve Erbach

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Lembit Soobik
<lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote:
> "He said that he's familiar with
> Acronis but he just carries around a spare IDE card and cable for that
> kind of work.  No image drive necessary."
>
> so, once a drive fails, he picks his IDE card and magically has all his 
> data
> back.
> so simple.
> ehmmm - does he use his 60-foot flat panel for that magic?
>
> Lembit
>
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From bill_patten at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun  1 12:13:47 2008
From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 10:13:47 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...
In-Reply-To: <138188B57C9E4B119BDDDEFC65A35ECE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <39cb22f30805271516g60847c60t318cb50cdac037a5@mail.gmail.com><007601c8c10f$d80efbf0$1800a8c0@s1800><39cb22f30805300316o33b0a55cue8955e520dfe08bd@mail.gmail.com><006401c8c24b$aa659960$1800a8c0@s1800><39cb22f30805300617ic652504h1f8fcdc6a8e0ff97@mail.gmail.com><763F268DA7974CDBAAF9E52D6BB649A5@BPCS><39cb22f30805301813s4337b2aeg2d0e5870b6c656a7@mail.gmail.com><003301c8c338$0bcc6a70$1800a8c0@s1800><39cb22f30806010358v69e756d6s272ff6e46c7b35e@mail.gmail.com><E6D2D5FD61BB4C219609EF6D0F5E9239@BPCS>
	<138188B57C9E4B119BDDDEFC65A35ECE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <614ACB6EBCC54B22ABFF36E5BC493780@BPCS>

Jim,
Acronis Home will do a clone and is cheaper than Workstation. It will not 
allow you to use the Universal Repair. You can down load a demo of either 
and test it. Looking on line you can often find reduced prices for the Home 
version. I think the demo will even allow you to create the bootable CD so 
you can test the clone feature, but it probably has some kind of expiration 
date.

When cloning Server 2003 I found that you have to be careful and not allow 
the server to boot with both drives still installed, it will wipe out one of 
them. (I suspect it re-writes the MBR on one but didn't bother to look into 
it. I just turn off the computer when the clone is complete and remove one 
of the drives before I apply power.

HTH


Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...


As it seems that the conscientious is that Acronis is the best package for a
complete image and boot sector drive backup and restore what would be the
appropriate package(s) within their product group to best perform this/these
tasks?

I wish to be able to easily clone a pefect copy of a master drive onto a new
hard drive.... and then be able to boot up immediately.

MTIA

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:06 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...

Hey Steve, you are of course correct, a backup is a different beast, however

as long as you have NAS or another PC with with room to store the backup on
it's the same amount of work. And the added bonus of having a backup should
the "New" drive fail in a couple of days.

Oh and by the way, you can use Acronis to clone directly from one drive to
another (But this wouldn't allow you to use the Universal Restore feature).
Since server backup software is very expensive I have 2 250G SATA Drives and

clone my server once a month, then run the server on the new clone to make
sure that it is good copy and set the other aside for backup.

Obviously my server isn't mission critical. <Grin>


Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...


Lembit,

Now, now...the reason I started this thread was to ask how to take a
GOOD drive from one system and get it working in another.  Backup is a
different beast.

Steve Erbach

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Lembit Soobik
<lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote:
> "He said that he's familiar with
> Acronis but he just carries around a spare IDE card and cable for that
> kind of work.  No image drive necessary."
>
> so, once a drive fails, he picks his IDE card and magically has all his
> data
> back.
> so simple.
> ehmmm - does he use his 60-foot flat panel for that magic?
>
> Lembit
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun  1 14:10:35 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:10:35 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...
In-Reply-To: <614ACB6EBCC54B22ABFF36E5BC493780@BPCS>
References: <39cb22f30805271516g60847c60t318cb50cdac037a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<007601c8c10f$d80efbf0$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300316o33b0a55cue8955e520dfe08bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<006401c8c24b$aa659960$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300617ic652504h1f8fcdc6a8e0ff97@mail.gmail.com>
	<763F268DA7974CDBAAF9E52D6BB649A5@BPCS>
	<39cb22f30805301813s4337b2aeg2d0e5870b6c656a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<003301c8c338$0bcc6a70$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30806010358v69e756d6s272ff6e46c7b35e@mail.gmail.com>
	<E6D2D5FD61BB4C219609EF6D0F5E9239@BPCS>
	<138188B57C9E4B119BDDDEFC65A35ECE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<614ACB6EBCC54B22ABFF36E5BC493780@BPCS>
Message-ID: <974A305CD38941BF865F6DC7D83FD8A1@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Bill, thanks for the tips. I will definitely use this.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...

Jim,
Acronis Home will do a clone and is cheaper than Workstation. It will not 
allow you to use the Universal Repair. You can down load a demo of either 
and test it. Looking on line you can often find reduced prices for the Home 
version. I think the demo will even allow you to create the bootable CD so 
you can test the clone feature, but it probably has some kind of expiration 
date.

When cloning Server 2003 I found that you have to be careful and not allow 
the server to boot with both drives still installed, it will wipe out one of

them. (I suspect it re-writes the MBR on one but didn't bother to look into 
it. I just turn off the computer when the clone is complete and remove one 
of the drives before I apply power.

HTH


Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...


As it seems that the conscientious is that Acronis is the best package for a
complete image and boot sector drive backup and restore what would be the
appropriate package(s) within their product group to best perform this/these
tasks?

I wish to be able to easily clone a pefect copy of a master drive onto a new
hard drive.... and then be able to boot up immediately.

MTIA

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:06 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...

Hey Steve, you are of course correct, a backup is a different beast, however

as long as you have NAS or another PC with with room to store the backup on
it's the same amount of work. And the added bonus of having a backup should
the "New" drive fail in a couple of days.

Oh and by the way, you can use Acronis to clone directly from one drive to
another (But this wouldn't allow you to use the Universal Restore feature).
Since server backup software is very expensive I have 2 250G SATA Drives and

clone my server once a month, then run the server on the new clone to make
sure that it is good copy and set the other aside for backup.

Obviously my server isn't mission critical. <Grin>


Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...


Lembit,

Now, now...the reason I started this thread was to ask how to take a
GOOD drive from one system and get it working in another.  Backup is a
different beast.

Steve Erbach

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Lembit Soobik
<lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote:
> "He said that he's familiar with
> Acronis but he just carries around a spare IDE card and cable for that
> kind of work.  No image drive necessary."
>
> so, once a drive fails, he picks his IDE card and magically has all his
> data
> back.
> so simple.
> ehmmm - does he use his 60-foot flat panel for that magic?
>
> Lembit
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun  1 14:19:33 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:19:33 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Publishing and File portals
In-Reply-To: <614ACB6EBCC54B22ABFF36E5BC493780@BPCS>
References: <39cb22f30805271516g60847c60t318cb50cdac037a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<007601c8c10f$d80efbf0$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300316o33b0a55cue8955e520dfe08bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<006401c8c24b$aa659960$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300617ic652504h1f8fcdc6a8e0ff97@mail.gmail.com>
	<763F268DA7974CDBAAF9E52D6BB649A5@BPCS>
	<39cb22f30805301813s4337b2aeg2d0e5870b6c656a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<003301c8c338$0bcc6a70$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30806010358v69e756d6s272ff6e46c7b35e@mail.gmail.com>
	<E6D2D5FD61BB4C219609EF6D0F5E9239@BPCS>
	<138188B57C9E4B119BDDDEFC65A35ECE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<614ACB6EBCC54B22ABFF36E5BC493780@BPCS>
Message-ID: <8869C39DD38540AEB7F62B089C591E4D@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Here is a couple of interesting sites.

The first one allows you to publish a magazine or sales catalogue online
given you an excellent interface and loaded with features. The product is
totally free and claims to be that indefinitely: http://issuu.com/

The second is a drag and drop portal for transferring large files between
friends and businesses. Availability time frame can be set as well as
security applied. The resource is also free: http://issuu.com/

Check them out.

Jim 



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Jun  2 00:22:09 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:22:09 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
Message-ID: <008501c8c470$9b325f10$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder with a
couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I know.
There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
Settings. 

What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder so I
can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta be a
bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much and I'm
running out of room.

Does anyone know of such a utility?

MTIA

Rocky



 	
	
 

 




From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Mon Jun  2 00:59:44 2008
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:59:44 +1200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
Message-ID: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE01A102@server.BondSoftware.local>

I use TreeSizeFree from Jam Software.  Does the job for me.
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

Stephen 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, 2 June 2008 5:31 p.m.
To: Stephen
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder
with a couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I
know.
There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
Settings. 

What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder
so I can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta
be a bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much
and I'm running out of room.

Does anyone know of such a utility?

MTIA

Rocky



 	
	
 

 


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From Erwin.News at ithelps.eu  Mon Jun  2 01:48:47 2008
From: Erwin.News at ithelps.eu (Erwin News - IT helps)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:48:47 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
References: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE01A102@server.BondSoftware.local>
Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02773DD@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

There is the free i.Disk I use to use before but it only calculates
sizes.
http://www.memecode.com/idisk.php


I purchased the more complete FolderSizes because it also counts the
number of files.
The quantity of files slows down some operations enormously like when
using roaming profiles.
Mainly because all those small files need to be viruschcked each time
before copying.
Or even when trying to save a file...
http://www.foldersizes.com/
I'm very much pleases with this soft.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:00 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

I use TreeSizeFree from Jam Software.  Does the job for me.
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

Stephen 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, 2 June 2008 5:31 p.m.
To: Stephen
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder
with a couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I
know.
There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
Settings. 

What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder
so I can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta
be a bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much
and I'm running out of room.

Does anyone know of such a utility?

MTIA

Rocky



 	
	
 

 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Jun  2 01:51:48 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:51:48 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
In-Reply-To: <008501c8c470$9b325f10$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <008501c8c470$9b325f10$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <48442524.8330.47F659E3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I like WinDirStat

http://windirstat.info/

On 1 Jun 2008 at 22:22, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder with a
> couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I know.
> There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
> Settings. 
> 
> What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
> like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder so I
> can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta be a
> bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much and I'm
> running out of room.
> 
> Does anyone know of such a utility?
> 
> MTIA
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> 
>  	
> 	
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Jun  2 02:42:10 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:42:10 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Publishing and File portals
Message-ID: <s843c098.053@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Should both links be the same?

While Issuu certainly is a nice implementation, this gives me the opportunity to express that one of the major misunderstandings of bringing print style material to the web is to simulate a book in a web browser. The web is not a book, neither is the browser, so why should a browser be operated like a book? The argument is that everyone knows how to operate a physical book and that is true - but still, a browser is not a physical book. Should you never have operated a physical book, the browser and Issuu wouldn't even do as a book simulator to learn you the task.

/gustav

>>> accessd at shaw.ca 01-06-2008 21:19 >>>
Hi All:

Here is a couple of interesting sites.

The first one allows you to publish a magazine or sales catalogue online
given you an excellent interface and loaded with features. The product is
totally free and claims to be that indefinitely: http://issuu.com/ 

The second is a drag and drop portal for transferring large files between
friends and businesses. Availability time frame can be set as well as
security applied. The resource is also free: http://issuu.com/ 

Check them out.

Jim 




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Jun  2 03:36:34 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:36:34 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
Message-ID: <s843cd44.056@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Also Scanner of Steffen Gerlach:

  http://www.steffengerlach.de/freeware/

Features a unique concentric pie chart style graph from which you can instantly jump to any folder.
Also, a nice tool for your toolbox as it is one exe only - no installation - so you can run it from an USB stick.

/gustav


>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 02-06-2008 07:22 >>>
Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder with a
couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I know.
There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
Settings. 

What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder so I
can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta be a
bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much and I'm
running out of room.

Does anyone know of such a utility?

MTIA

Rocky




From jon at tydda.plus.com  Mon Jun  2 04:29:54 2008
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:29:54 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
In-Reply-To: <008501c8c470$9b325f10$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <008501c8c470$9b325f10$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <B927F9F5EADC466497102AD3A864C4D5@jt2c>

Treesize is the one I use. Can't remember where I got it from thuogh, but it
does exactly that.


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 02 June 2008 06:22
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder with a
couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I know.
There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
Settings. 

What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder so I
can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta be a
bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much and I'm
running out of room.

Does anyone know of such a utility?

MTIA

Rocky



 	
	
 

 


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Jun  2 05:23:44 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:23:44 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Large scale virtualization
Message-ID: <s843e65f.062@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Dell and VMware have got a contract for the City of Copenhagen to replace more than 600 hundred servers spread on 15 locations all over town with 32 centralised R900 quad processor servers each equipped with 128GB ram - that is "full house", 32 sockets of 4GB each. Total disk storage will be 204TB.

The expectations to reduced power consumption alone should bring cost savings of about USD 333,000 per year.

No doubt that virtualization is hot.

/gustav




From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 06:41:59 2008
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:41:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...
In-Reply-To: <004601c8c3f2$854c4810$1800a8c0@s1800>
References: <39cb22f30805271516g60847c60t318cb50cdac037a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<007601c8c10f$d80efbf0$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300316o33b0a55cue8955e520dfe08bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<006401c8c24b$aa659960$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30805300617ic652504h1f8fcdc6a8e0ff97@mail.gmail.com>
	<763F268DA7974CDBAAF9E52D6BB649A5@BPCS>
	<39cb22f30805301813s4337b2aeg2d0e5870b6c656a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<003301c8c338$0bcc6a70$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<39cb22f30806010358v69e756d6s272ff6e46c7b35e@mail.gmail.com>
	<004601c8c3f2$854c4810$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30806020441s20a661e2j79c5be08ec93dadb@mail.gmail.com>

Lembit,

? yes, right. sorry. ?

That made me chuckle.  I could hear John Cleese saying that in a Monty
Python episode.

? somehow I was under the impression thst the old machine had failed.... ?

No, it had just "seen better days".  It had its power supply replaced,
but it still works all right.  I was primarily interested in how to
reduce the pain of re-installing umpteen pieces of software on a brand
new computer to get it up to the level of functionality that an
existing system has.

In my experience, it takes a couple weeks for things to be back to
"normal" when one buys a new machine to replace an old one.  Sure,
favorites and address books and email and data files can be
transferred, no sweat.  The sweat comes when one re-installs all that
blankety-blank software!  The "bucket brigade" with an alternate IDE
controller seems to me to offer as direct a route as possible,
considering that there's a different hard disk controller in the new
machine.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI
USA

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Lembit Soobik
<lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote:
> yes, right. sorry.
> Since I'm used to always do backup images to other machines on the network,
> in my environment it would be the logical thing to do to use the latest
> image for the new machine. also, somehow I was under the impression thst the
> old machine had failed....
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...
>
>
>> Lembit,
>>
>> Now, now...the reason I started this thread was to ask how to take a
>> GOOD drive from one system and get it working in another.  Backup is a
>> different beast.
>>
>> Steve Erbach



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jun  2 08:09:38 2008
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:09:38 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Spammers
Message-ID: <4843F112.2050302@colbyconsulting.com>

A friend of mine is receiving "not received" or "rejected" 
emails by the hundreds per week.  I thought her computer was 
probably hijacked and had her bring it over.  After running 
all of my scans I am seeing nothing.

She mentioned that it was her "business email address", and 
that the cable company had "given her a new password".  With 
her computer in hand, I opened Outlook express and see just 
a few personal emails, and no sign of infections etc.

I am now thinking that perhaps someone has hijacked her 
email account assigned by the cable company, and that 
perhaps she uses through a browser (web based email).  If 
that is the case, then her computer is not sending these 
emails, which certainly correlates with what I am seeing on 
her physical machine.

So is it possible for spammers to hijack a browser based 
email and send spam through that without infecting the PC of 
the owner?

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Jun  2 08:30:22 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:30:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Spammers
In-Reply-To: <4843F112.2050302@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4843F112.2050302@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <10F0646C8B53459CB808F49F56265D88@danwaters>

Yes!  This happened to me.

Apparently because I had posted my email address on my website, someone
began using my email address.  To keep me from receiving these, I changed a
setting in email parameters on the web site (I don't remember what though),
put my email address behind a link on my site, and change the email address
from dan.waters at promationsystems.com to dan.waters@@@@@promationsystems.com.

HTH,
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Spammers

A friend of mine is receiving "not received" or "rejected" 
emails by the hundreds per week.  I thought her computer was 
probably hijacked and had her bring it over.  After running 
all of my scans I am seeing nothing.

She mentioned that it was her "business email address", and 
that the cable company had "given her a new password".  With 
her computer in hand, I opened Outlook express and see just 
a few personal emails, and no sign of infections etc.

I am now thinking that perhaps someone has hijacked her 
email account assigned by the cable company, and that 
perhaps she uses through a browser (web based email).  If 
that is the case, then her computer is not sending these 
emails, which certainly correlates with what I am seeing on 
her physical machine.

So is it possible for spammers to hijack a browser based 
email and send spam through that without infecting the PC of 
the owner?

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 08:33:41 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:33:41 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Spammers
In-Reply-To: <4843F112.2050302@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4843F112.2050302@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950806020633k16b4b930i110b08c6a5665f91@mail.gmail.com>

I get messages like that from time to time. When this has happened to
me it's always been a case of SPOOFING I think it's called. If you go
in and look at the rejected e-mail detail you might see that these
messages didn't come from her e-mail address at all but were just
pretending to come from that address.   Have a look at this Wikipedea
entry for Backscatter which is maybe what your friend is experiencing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_%28e-mail%29

GK

On 6/2/08, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> A friend of mine is receiving "not received" or "rejected"
> emails by the hundreds per week.  I thought her computer was
> probably hijacked and had her bring it over.  After running
> all of my scans I am seeing nothing.
>
> She mentioned that it was her "business email address", and
> that the cable company had "given her a new password".  With
> her computer in hand, I opened Outlook express and see just
> a few personal emails, and no sign of infections etc.
>
> I am now thinking that perhaps someone has hijacked her
> email account assigned by the cable company, and that
> perhaps she uses through a browser (web based email).  If
> that is the case, then her computer is not sending these
> emails, which certainly correlates with what I am seeing on
> her physical machine.
>
> So is it possible for spammers to hijack a browser based
> email and send spam through that without infecting the PC of
> the owner?
>
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Jun  2 16:29:44 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:29:44 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
In-Reply-To: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE01A102@server.BondSoftware.local>
References: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE01A102@server.BondSoftware.local>
Message-ID: <00e301c8c4f7$c69949c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Stephen:

Exactly what I was looking for.   Thank you.

And thanks to all who responded.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 11:00 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

I use TreeSizeFree from Jam Software.  Does the job for me.
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

Stephen 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, 2 June 2008 5:31 p.m.
To: Stephen
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder with a
couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I know.
There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
Settings. 

What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder so I
can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta be a
bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much and I'm
running out of room.

Does anyone know of such a utility?

MTIA

Rocky



 	
	
 

 


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Jun  2 17:02:51 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:02:51 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
In-Reply-To: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02773DD@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
References: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE01A102@server.BondSoftware.local>
	<430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02773DD@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <00e401c8c4fc$66c1d1c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

I like that one, too.  Little harder on old eyes than TreeSize, though.  But
nice. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin News - IT
helps
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 11:49 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

There is the free i.Disk I use to use before but it only calculates sizes.
http://www.memecode.com/idisk.php


I purchased the more complete FolderSizes because it also counts the number
of files.
The quantity of files slows down some operations enormously like when using
roaming profiles.
Mainly because all those small files need to be viruschcked each time before
copying.
Or even when trying to save a file...
http://www.foldersizes.com/
I'm very much pleases with this soft.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:00 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

I use TreeSizeFree from Jam Software.  Does the job for me.
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

Stephen 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, 2 June 2008 5:31 p.m.
To: Stephen
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder with a
couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I know.
There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
Settings. 

What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder so I
can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta be a
bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much and I'm
running out of room.

Does anyone know of such a utility?

MTIA

Rocky



 	
	
 

 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Jun  2 17:09:07 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:09:07 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
In-Reply-To: <s843cd44.056@cactus.dk>
References: <s843cd44.056@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4844FC23.21516.4B3E2DEB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I agree wholeheartedly. That's the other one I was trying to remember 

I've used it for frequently over the years, but didn't have a copy available and couldn't 
remember the name.


On 2 Jun 2008 at 10:36, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi Rocky
> 
> Also Scanner of Steffen Gerlach:
> 
>   http://www.steffengerlach.de/freeware/
> 
> Features a unique concentric pie chart style graph from which you can instantly jump to any folder.
> Also, a nice tool for your toolbox as it is one exe only - no installation - so you can run it from an USB stick.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 02-06-2008 07:22 >>>
> Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder with a
> couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I know.
> There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
> Settings. 
> 
> What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
> like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder so I
> can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta be a
> bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much and I'm
> running out of room.
> 
> Does anyone know of such a utility?
> 
> MTIA
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Jun  2 18:00:21 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:00:21 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
In-Reply-To: <48442524.8330.47F659E3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <008501c8c470$9b325f10$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
	<48442524.8330.47F659E3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00e501c8c504$6f54d230$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Another good one!  My cyber cup runneth over.  Thanks. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 11:52 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

I like WinDirStat

http://windirstat.info/

On 1 Jun 2008 at 22:22, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder 
> with a couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I
know.
> There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents 
> and Settings.
> 
> What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder 
> structure like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in 
> the folder so I can track down the big ones and free up some space.  
> There's gotta be a bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean 
> up didn't do much and I'm running out of room.
> 
> Does anyone know of such a utility?
> 
> MTIA
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> 
>  	
> 	
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From bgeldart at verizon.net  Mon Jun  2 18:13:53 2008
From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:13:53 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
In-Reply-To: <008501c8c470$9b325f10$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <008501c8c470$9b325f10$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <0K1U00KN0ZK4WVC3@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>

Used to be an easy/quick way to do it at a DOS prompt, list all files 
below plus subdirectories, then sort by size, and output to printer or file.

Dir /S /O-S > Filename.txt

At 6/2/2008 01:22 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
>Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder with a
>couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I know.
>There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and
>Settings.
>
>What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder structure
>like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in the folder so I
>can track down the big ones and free up some space.  There's gotta be a
>bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up didn't do much and I'm
>running out of room.
>
>Does anyone know of such a utility?
>
>Rocky


Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA  

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Jun  3 00:36:19 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:36:19 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Folder Size
In-Reply-To: <0K1U00KN0ZK4WVC3@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <008501c8c470$9b325f10$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
	<0K1U00KN0ZK4WVC3@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <015301c8c53b$c052e6e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

But thanks to rapid and sophisticated advances in technology we are no
longer burdened by quick and easy ways to do things.  


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Geldart
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:14 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Folder Size

Used to be an easy/quick way to do it at a DOS prompt, list all files below
plus subdirectories, then sort by size, and output to printer or file.

Dir /S /O-S > Filename.txt

At 6/2/2008 01:22 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
>Somewhere in that damn Documents and Settings folder there's a folder 
>with a couple gigabytes of stuff.  Could be six folders deep for all I
know.
>There's about 900+ sub-folders and 60,000+ files under my Documents and 
>Settings.
>
>What I'm looking for is a utility that will display the folder 
>structure like windows explorer does but with the size of the files in 
>the folder so I can track down the big ones and free up some space.  
>There's gotta be a bunch of files in there I don't need.  Disk clean up 
>didn't do much and I'm running out of room.
>
>Does anyone know of such a utility?
>
>Rocky


Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jun  3 07:01:07 2008
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:01:07 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Can I Email send but not receive
Message-ID: <48453283.2000208@colbyconsulting.com>

Here is the deal.  I have several different servers.  I do 
work on those servers and results end up in local 
directories on those servers.  I need to be able to SEND 
email from those servers, attaching the files on their local 
directories, BUT I do not want those email clients on those 
servers to pick up the email.

I want every email client to SEND on my jwcolby@ address but 
I only want to pick up the mail on my laptop.  this would 
allow me to send from any machine but all responses to the 
emails would come back to my laptop email client.

So is it possible to set up an email client (Thunderbird) to 
have an outgoing server, but no incoming server?  Send, but 
never receive?

I do NOT want to have an email address for each server 
(which was my first thought) because I don't want to have to 
go to each machine to check for responses.

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jun  3 17:39:08 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:39:08 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Can I Email send but not receive
In-Reply-To: <48453283.2000208@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <48453283.2000208@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <484654AC.3313.50805C0D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I don't know about Thunderbird specifically, but any decent email program will do this.

Just configure the email client of your choice with the same SMTP (sending) configuration 
on each machine,  but leave the POP3 (receiving configuration blank)

-- 
Stuart

On 3 Jun 2008 at 8:01, jwcolby wrote:

> Here is the deal.  I have several different servers.  I do 
> work on those servers and results end up in local 
> directories on those servers.  I need to be able to SEND 
> email from those servers, attaching the files on their local 
> directories, BUT I do not want those email clients on those 
> servers to pick up the email.
> 
> I want every email client to SEND on my jwcolby@ address but 
> I only want to pick up the mail on my laptop.  this would 
> allow me to send from any machine but all responses to the 
> emails would come back to my laptop email client.
> 
> So is it possible to set up an email client (Thunderbird) to 
> have an outgoing server, but no incoming server?  Send, but 
> never receive?
> 
> I do NOT want to have an email address for each server 
> (which was my first thought) because I don't want to have to 
> go to each machine to check for responses.
> 
> -- 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jun  3 19:10:59 2008
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:10:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Can I Email send but not receive
In-Reply-To: <484654AC.3313.50805C0D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <48453283.2000208@colbyconsulting.com>
	<484654AC.3313.50805C0D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4845DD93.5030107@colbyconsulting.com>

 > Just configure the email client of your choice with the 
same SMTP (sending) configuration  on each machine,  but 
leave the POP3 (receiving configuration blank)

I think I can do that.

Thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> I don't know about Thunderbird specifically, but any decent email program will do this.
> 
> Just configure the email client of your choice with the same SMTP (sending) configuration 
> on each machine,  but leave the POP3 (receiving configuration blank)
> 


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Jun  5 06:29:43 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:29:43 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Google servers
Message-ID: <s847ea6a.049@cactus.dk>

Hi all

More on Google and their home-built rack sized blade servers ...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9955184-7.html?tag=nefd.lede

/gustav




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Jun  8 23:50:36 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:50:36 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card
Message-ID: <014601c8c9ec$5be99a40$0301a8c0@HAL9005>



Dear List:
 
I had to reformat the hard drive of one of my kid's computers.  Pretty much
got it reloaded - Windows XP SP2 - but - no sound.  No device installed.  
 
It's an HP Pavilion a1221n.  And I don't have the restore disks or the
documentation so I don't know what sound card is in there or how to install
it.  
 
Any ideas on how to proceed?  Short of opening the box and looking - what
kind of sound card is in there, how to install it, update the drivers, etc?
 
MTIA,
 
Rocky
 
 
 
 


From bill_patten at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun  9 00:22:11 2008
From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:22:11 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card
In-Reply-To: <014601c8c9ec$5be99a40$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <014601c8c9ec$5be99a40$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <D419693D30DD420B991CF1E66AC5E7D0@BPCS>

Hi Rocky,

Found this on Google, hope it helps

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&product=1148037&dlc=en

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "List" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:50 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card




Dear List:

I had to reformat the hard drive of one of my kid's computers.  Pretty much
got it reloaded - Windows XP SP2 - but - no sound.  No device installed.

It's an HP Pavilion a1221n.  And I don't have the restore disks or the
documentation so I don't know what sound card is in there or how to install
it.

Any ideas on how to proceed?  Short of opening the box and looking - what
kind of sound card is in there, how to install it, update the drivers, etc?

MTIA,

Rocky




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From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 08:12:33 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:12:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card
In-Reply-To: <014601c8c9ec$5be99a40$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <014601c8c9ec$5be99a40$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950806090612m52dec72fo1f4aa4e7b0de5474@mail.gmail.com>

Here's your drivers;

<http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=1148037&lang=en>


Also see the "solve a problem" dialog on the left.

GK


On 6/8/08, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I had to reformat the hard drive of one of my kid's computers.  Pretty much
> got it reloaded - Windows XP SP2 - but - no sound.  No device installed.
>
> It's an HP Pavilion a1221n.  And I don't have the restore disks or the
> documentation so I don't know what sound card is in there or how to install
> it.
>
> Any ideas on how to proceed?  Short of opening the box and looking - what
> kind of sound card is in there, how to install it, update the drivers, etc?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Jun  9 08:29:59 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:29:59 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950806090612m52dec72fo1f4aa4e7b0de5474@mail.gmail.com>
References: <014601c8c9ec$5be99a40$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950806090612m52dec72fo1f4aa4e7b0de5474@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c8ca34$eaa5be60$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

That's the page I had been to and that Bill sent me to.  That was last night
& I couldn't see anything there I could use.   This morning it looks
different. :o)

There's a page in the 'solve a problem' area that looks promising titled 'No
Audio Device in Windows XP' which is exactly what the problem is.  I'll give
it a go.  Actually, I'll give it to Noah.  It's his machine.  Let him figure
it out!

Thanks. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:13 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Sound Card

Here's your drivers;

<http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&p
roduct=1148037&lang=en>


Also see the "solve a problem" dialog on the left.

GK


On 6/8/08, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I had to reformat the hard drive of one of my kid's computers.  Pretty 
> much got it reloaded - Windows XP SP2 - but - no sound.  No device
installed.
>
> It's an HP Pavilion a1221n.  And I don't have the restore disks or the 
> documentation so I don't know what sound card is in there or how to 
> install it.
>
> Any ideas on how to proceed?  Short of opening the box and looking - 
> what kind of sound card is in there, how to install it, update the
drivers, etc?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


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garykjos at gmail.com
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Jun  9 12:43:54 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:43:54 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cannot drag and drop or copy and paste folder in Windows
	XP
Message-ID: <s84d8812.096@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Now what is this? A client machine won't copy a folder (any folder) to another folder. Nothing happens. Extremely strange.

No virus or spyware should be present, and the SFC util (System File Scan) has been used, and the SP2 currently installed on the machine has been re-applied. But no cigar.

Any ideas?

/gustav




From pharold at proftesting.com  Mon Jun  9 13:13:27 2008
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry L Harold)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:13:27 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card
References: <014601c8c9ec$5be99a40$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <A13E55BC636DE945B76BEE728A33F47B24AEE6@exchange.ptiorl.local>

The HP site has a pretty good listing of devices in specific models.  It
then lets you go and retrieve the drivers for the device. 


Perry Harold
Professional Testing Inc
407-264-2993
pharold at proftesting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:51 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card



Dear List:
 
I had to reformat the hard drive of one of my kid's computers.  Pretty
much got it reloaded - Windows XP SP2 - but - no sound.  No device
installed.  
 
It's an HP Pavilion a1221n.  And I don't have the restore disks or the
documentation so I don't know what sound card is in there or how to
install it.  
 
Any ideas on how to proceed?  Short of opening the box and looking -
what kind of sound card is in there, how to install it, update the
drivers, etc?
 
MTIA,
 
Rocky
 
 
 
 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Jun  9 13:40:05 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:40:05 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card
In-Reply-To: <A13E55BC636DE945B76BEE728A33F47B24AEE6@exchange.ptiorl.local>
References: <014601c8c9ec$5be99a40$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
	<A13E55BC636DE945B76BEE728A33F47B24AEE6@exchange.ptiorl.local>
Message-ID: <007f01c8ca60$3c4e6160$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Yeah, using the proper archeological tools and a bit of luck, we now have
sound!

Thanks 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Perry L Harold
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:13 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Sound Card

The HP site has a pretty good listing of devices in specific models.  It
then lets you go and retrieve the drivers for the device. 


Perry Harold
Professional Testing Inc
407-264-2993
pharold at proftesting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:51 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card



Dear List:
 
I had to reformat the hard drive of one of my kid's computers.  Pretty much
got it reloaded - Windows XP SP2 - but - no sound.  No device installed.  
 
It's an HP Pavilion a1221n.  And I don't have the restore disks or the
documentation so I don't know what sound card is in there or how to install
it.  
 
Any ideas on how to proceed?  Short of opening the box and looking - what
kind of sound card is in there, how to install it, update the drivers, etc?
 
MTIA,
 
Rocky
 
 
 
 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  9 13:48:09 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:48:09 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound Card
In-Reply-To: <001e01c8ca34$eaa5be60$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <014601c8c9ec$5be99a40$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950806090612m52dec72fo1f4aa4e7b0de5474@mail.gmail.com>
	<001e01c8ca34$eaa5be60$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <D9B604DBCA6442B89F117EA597F7D5C6@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Rocky:

Just got back from a contract install so rhis may be a little late. If all
the componenets like sound, lan and video are built into the motherboard a
CD usually accompanynes the product sale. This CD inconjunction with the XP
disks allows you to set up the system.

Most manufactures will allow you to download the CD contents when you
request info giving the computer model and possiblily series number. (Each
model has a slightly different mother config.)

The XP installation does not necessarily recognize the mother board
configuration and will just install the defaults or closest match. (Just
thank you lucky stars that you are not installing Vista as it is not unusual
to find you only have VGA 8 bit graphics and a system refusing to update as
it may be a security risk.) After the install is done, given that you now
have the config CD, go to: Start > My Computer > <right-mouse-click> >
Properties > Hardware > Device manager. 

If you notice components with a yellow question mark or have items that are
not working like your sound card. Prepare to update the drivers on
components that are not working... <right-mouse click> Update Driver >
Install from a List or specific location... Follow instructions and point to
either CD drive or directory, where ever you placed the CD data. 

After that you may have to go to turn on items like the sound card through
the Start > Control Panel > Sound and Audio...

The only other issues you may have if is the BIOS is setup to run components
that you do not have like a RAID, which you will not be using or have
above-board cards like a LAN or sound card that has replaced the onboard
card... then you may have to boot into the bios and turn off these
mother-board components.

If you need any more help just post here.

Jim     

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:30 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Sound Card

That's the page I had been to and that Bill sent me to.  That was last night
& I couldn't see anything there I could use.   This morning it looks
different. :o)

There's a page in the 'solve a problem' area that looks promising titled 'No
Audio Device in Windows XP' which is exactly what the problem is.  I'll give
it a go.  Actually, I'll give it to Noah.  It's his machine.  Let him figure
it out!

Thanks. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:13 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Sound Card

Here's your drivers;

<http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&p
roduct=1148037&lang=en>


Also see the "solve a problem" dialog on the left.

GK


On 6/8/08, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I had to reformat the hard drive of one of my kid's computers.  Pretty 
> much got it reloaded - Windows XP SP2 - but - no sound.  No device
installed.
>
> It's an HP Pavilion a1221n.  And I don't have the restore disks or the 
> documentation so I don't know what sound card is in there or how to 
> install it.
>
> Any ideas on how to proceed?  Short of opening the box and looking - 
> what kind of sound card is in there, how to install it, update the
drivers, etc?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  9 13:59:49 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:59:49 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cannot drag and drop or copy and paste folder in
 Windows	XP
In-Reply-To: <s84d8812.096@cactus.dk>
References: <s84d8812.096@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <64070A88A3C34D4DBD87C4049A79C35E@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Gustav:

No permissions error? Sounds like a virus as it would take the deletison or
modification of one of Windows system DLLs to cause that. One quick fix you
might try is to set the pemissions of all the items in the local registry
list to Full-Control for admin and try it again. Start > Run > Regedit >
HKEY_LOCAL_Machine > <right-mouse-click> > permissions > Adminisration  and
tick <Full Control> 

Have had some success with very strange permissions issues using this
method.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 10:44 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cannot drag and drop or copy and paste folder in Windows
XP

Hi all

Now what is this? A client machine won't copy a folder (any folder) to
another folder. Nothing happens. Extremely strange.

No virus or spyware should be present, and the SFC util (System File Scan)
has been used, and the SP2 currently installed on the machine has been
re-applied. But no cigar.

Any ideas?

/gustav


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From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 14:36:11 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:36:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cannot drag and drop or copy and paste folder in
	Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <s84d8812.096@cactus.dk>
References: <s84d8812.096@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950806091236u6c394b71g52a6fbdf24b4bc1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Gustav,

Can it copy it with a command line copy command?

Can it rename a folder?  Also your message implies it can copy
individual files OK?  Just not folders?  And it can make a new folder
OK just not copy one?

Is there perhaps a thumbs.db system file in that folder?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/116018-45-cannot-copy-move-folders-access-rights


GK

On 6/9/08, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Now what is this? A client machine won't copy a folder (any folder) to another folder. Nothing happens. Extremely strange.
>
> No virus or spyware should be present, and the SFC util (System File Scan) has been used, and the SP2 currently installed on the machine has been re-applied. But no cigar.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> /gustav
>
>
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Jun 10 07:26:19 2008
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:26:19 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
Message-ID: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3107FD37434A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>

I have a Dell XPS Gen 3 system. It has a unique power supply which of course has now died. What I want to do is take all the bits out and put them into another case. Of course knowing nothing about hardware I don't know which motherboard is fitted to the XPS therefore don't know which case to get. Any help appreciated.

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
Queen's University
Riddel Hall
185 Stranmillis Road
Belfast
BT9 5EE
Tel : 02890974465
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk



From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 08:44:52 2008
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:44:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
In-Reply-To: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3107FD37434A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3107FD37434A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <2dad32080806100644t5d7ecff0ub19667cd2181dda0@mail.gmail.com>

Why not just get a new power supply?

On 6/10/08, Martin W Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> I have a Dell XPS Gen 3 system. It has a unique power supply which of
> course has now died. What I want to do is take all the bits out and put them
> into another case. Of course knowing nothing about hardware I don't know
> which motherboard is fitted to the XPS therefore don't know which case to
> get. Any help appreciated.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Martin WP Reid
> Information Services
> Queen's University
> Riddel Hall
> 185 Stranmillis Road
> Belfast
> BT9 5EE
> Tel : 02890974465
> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
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>


From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Jun 10 08:51:39 2008
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:51:39 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
In-Reply-To: <2dad32080806100644t5d7ecff0ub19667cd2181dda0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3107FD37434A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<2dad32080806100644t5d7ecff0ub19667cd2181dda0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B311ED0985BAC@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Its  a special inhouse model from dell and no one seems to have them.

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
Queen's University
Riddel Hall
185 Stranmillis Road
Belfast
BT9 5EE
Tel : 02890974465
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows [jeff.developer at gmail.com]
Sent: 10 June 2008 14:44
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

Why not just get a new power supply?

On 6/10/08, Martin W Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> I have a Dell XPS Gen 3 system. It has a unique power supply which of
> course has now died. What I want to do is take all the bits out and put them
> into another case. Of course knowing nothing about hardware I don't know
> which motherboard is fitted to the XPS therefore don't know which case to
> get. Any help appreciated.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Martin WP Reid
> Information Services
> Queen's University
> Riddel Hall
> 185 Stranmillis Road
> Belfast
> BT9 5EE
> Tel : 02890974465
> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Jun 10 09:11:28 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:11:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
In-Reply-To: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B311ED0985BAC@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3107FD37434A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<2dad32080806100644t5d7ecff0ub19667cd2181dda0@mail.gmail.com>
	<E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B311ED0985BAC@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <01CA25AAB7074F339768993624824A6C@danwaters>

Martin,

I built a fast PC last fall with zero regrets! (Faster than me anyway).  I
had looked at Dell but figured I could get a fast PC if I built it myself
for the same or a lower cost.

Not long ago I looked at my brother's Dell desktop and found that the hard
drive had unique connector ports - a non standard hard drive!  And this was
on a basic Dell desktop.  There was a connector for another hard drive, but
again it would have to have been ordered from Dell (if available).

Your PC probably has other unique parts on it as well.  So . . .

I would suggest considering starting from scratch.  If you build your own PC
all the parts will have a standard configuration.  So you can replace a
component if you want to, and easily find a replacement if you have to.

I'd guess that several people on this list have done the same, and could
provide suggestions and answers as you go.

To pique your interest here's an article about building a $350 PC:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2319499,00.asp

HTH!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:52 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

Its  a special inhouse model from dell and no one seems to have them.

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
Queen's University
Riddel Hall
185 Stranmillis Road
Belfast
BT9 5EE
Tel : 02890974465
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
[jeff.developer at gmail.com]
Sent: 10 June 2008 14:44
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

Why not just get a new power supply?

On 6/10/08, Martin W Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> I have a Dell XPS Gen 3 system. It has a unique power supply which of
> course has now died. What I want to do is take all the bits out and put
them
> into another case. Of course knowing nothing about hardware I don't know
> which motherboard is fitted to the XPS therefore don't know which case to
> get. Any help appreciated.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Martin WP Reid
> Information Services
> Queen's University
> Riddel Hall
> 185 Stranmillis Road
> Belfast
> BT9 5EE
> Tel : 02890974465
> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Jun 10 10:21:43 2008
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:21:43 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
In-Reply-To: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B311ED0985BAC@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3107FD37434A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<2dad32080806100644t5d7ecff0ub19667cd2181dda0@mail.gmail.com>
	<E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B311ED0985BAC@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <B471498006BE4A06A67E012A0B738FA8@jt2c>

Ebay! We got a "unique" power supply for a HP PC at work from Ebay... HP had
them for ?50 or so, we got it on Ebay (fron one of the shops, not second
hand or anything) for around ?30.

Could also try Googling the part number...

But if you do want to move it all over, everything's an ATX board these
days, unless it's a really tiny bx, in which case it'll be micro ATX.

HTH


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: 10 June 2008 14:52
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

Its  a special inhouse model from dell and no one seems to have them.

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
Queen's University
Riddel Hall
185 Stranmillis Road
Belfast
BT9 5EE
Tel : 02890974465
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
[jeff.developer at gmail.com]
Sent: 10 June 2008 14:44
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

Why not just get a new power supply?

On 6/10/08, Martin W Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> I have a Dell XPS Gen 3 system. It has a unique power supply which of 
> course has now died. What I want to do is take all the bits out and 
> put them into another case. Of course knowing nothing about hardware I 
> don't know which motherboard is fitted to the XPS therefore don't know 
> which case to get. Any help appreciated.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Martin WP Reid
> Information Services
> Queen's University
> Riddel Hall
> 185 Stranmillis Road
> Belfast
> BT9 5EE
> Tel : 02890974465
> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Tue Jun 10 11:00:06 2008
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:00:06 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
References: <E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B3107FD37434A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<2dad32080806100644t5d7ecff0ub19667cd2181dda0@mail.gmail.com><E59F7B6A13672C408C58831FF0622B311ED0985BAC@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<01CA25AAB7074F339768993624824A6C@danwaters>
Message-ID: <002c01c8cb13$0dd3f170$1800a8c0@s1800>

"> Not long ago I looked at my brother's Dell desktop and found that the 
hard
> drive had unique connector ports - a non standard hard drive!  And this 
> was
> on a basic Dell desktop.  There was a connector for another hard drive, 
> but
> again it would have to have been ordered from Dell (if available)."

OMG!!!
Was the connector on the MB also different or did they just have a special 
cable?
and how about the power connectors on the MB?

what a mean company. I will never, never buy HP.

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board


> Martin,
>
> I built a fast PC last fall with zero regrets! (Faster than me anyway).  I
> had looked at Dell but figured I could get a fast PC if I built it myself
> for the same or a lower cost.
>
> Not long ago I looked at my brother's Dell desktop and found that the hard
> drive had unique connector ports - a non standard hard drive!  And this 
> was
> on a basic Dell desktop.  There was a connector for another hard drive, 
> but
> again it would have to have been ordered from Dell (if available).
>
> Your PC probably has other unique parts on it as well.  So . . .
>
> I would suggest considering starting from scratch.  If you build your own 
> PC
> all the parts will have a standard configuration.  So you can replace a
> component if you want to, and easily find a replacement if you have to.
>
> I'd guess that several people on this list have done the same, and could
> provide suggestions and answers as you go.
>
> To pique your interest here's an article about building a $350 PC:
> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2319499,00.asp
>
> HTH!
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:52 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
>
> Its  a special inhouse model from dell and no one seems to have them.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Martin WP Reid
> Information Services
> Queen's University
> Riddel Hall
> 185 Stranmillis Road
> Belfast
> BT9 5EE
> Tel : 02890974465
> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
> ________________________________________
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
> [jeff.developer at gmail.com]
> Sent: 10 June 2008 14:44
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
>
> Why not just get a new power supply?
>
> On 6/10/08, Martin W Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I have a Dell XPS Gen 3 system. It has a unique power supply which of
>> course has now died. What I want to do is take all the bits out and put
> them
>> into another case. Of course knowing nothing about hardware I don't know
>> which motherboard is fitted to the XPS therefore don't know which case to
>> get. Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> Martin WP Reid
>> Information Services
>> Queen's University
>> Riddel Hall
>> 185 Stranmillis Road
>> Belfast
>> BT9 5EE
>> Tel : 02890974465
>> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jun 10 12:54:50 2008
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:54:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
In-Reply-To: <002c01c8cb13$0dd3f170$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <200806101754.m5AHsemU006346@databaseadvisors.com>

Sony and some others do the same thing. Parts are big bucks for the OEMs.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:00 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

"> Not long ago I looked at my brother's Dell desktop and found that the
hard
> drive had unique connector ports - a non standard hard drive!  And 
> this was on a basic Dell desktop.  There was a connector for another 
> hard drive, but again it would have to have been ordered from Dell (if 
> available)."

OMG!!!
Was the connector on the MB also different or did they just have a special
cable?
and how about the power connectors on the MB?

what a mean company. I will never, never buy HP.



From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Tue Jun 10 13:23:22 2008
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:23:22 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
References: <200806101754.m5AHsemU006346@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000401c8cb27$11a02490$1800a8c0@s1800>

so, are the MBs and drives both modified, i.e., have non-standard 
connectors?
how about the power connectors on the MB?

thanks
Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board


> Sony and some others do the same thing. Parts are big bucks for the OEMs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:00 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
>
> "> Not long ago I looked at my brother's Dell desktop and found that the
> hard
>> drive had unique connector ports - a non standard hard drive!  And
>> this was on a basic Dell desktop.  There was a connector for another
>> hard drive, but again it would have to have been ordered from Dell (if
>> available)."
>
> OMG!!!
> Was the connector on the MB also different or did they just have a special
> cable?
> and how about the power connectors on the MB?
>
> what a mean company. I will never, never buy HP.
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jun 10 15:49:41 2008
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:49:41 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
In-Reply-To: <000401c8cb27$11a02490$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <200806102049.m5AKnT46000659@databaseadvisors.com>

There is usually a small non-standard connector in addition to the standard
connectors.

The other problem can be the size shape of the power supply for the various
available specialized cases. The connectors are all standard but the units
aren't.

John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:23 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

so, are the MBs and drives both modified, i.e., have non-standard
connectors?
how about the power connectors on the MB?

thanks
Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board


> Sony and some others do the same thing. Parts are big bucks for the OEMs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:00 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
>
> "> Not long ago I looked at my brother's Dell desktop and found that the
> hard
>> drive had unique connector ports - a non standard hard drive!  And
>> this was on a basic Dell desktop.  There was a connector for another
>> hard drive, but again it would have to have been ordered from Dell (if
>> available)."
>
> OMG!!!
> Was the connector on the MB also different or did they just have a special
> cable?
> and how about the power connectors on the MB?
>
> what a mean company. I will never, never buy HP.
>
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>
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Jun 10 15:54:22 2008
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:54:22 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
In-Reply-To: <200806102049.m5AKnT46000659@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <000401c8cb27$11a02490$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<200806102049.m5AKnT46000659@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <2E37B3AB5D4045F8881ECD8174C9ACF5@jt2c>

That's what we had with the HP one, it was a really funny shape, no normal
unit would have fitted the case.

PITA if you ask me...


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: 10 June 2008 21:50
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

There is usually a small non-standard connector in addition to the standard
connectors.

The other problem can be the size shape of the power supply for the various
available specialized cases. The connectors are all standard but the units
aren't.

John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:23 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

so, are the MBs and drives both modified, i.e., have non-standard
connectors?
how about the power connectors on the MB?

thanks
Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board


> Sony and some others do the same thing. Parts are big bucks for the OEMs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit 
> Soobik
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:00 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
>
> "> Not long ago I looked at my brother's Dell desktop and found that 
> the hard
>> drive had unique connector ports - a non standard hard drive!  And 
>> this was on a basic Dell desktop.  There was a connector for another 
>> hard drive, but again it would have to have been ordered from Dell 
>> (if available)."
>
> OMG!!!
> Was the connector on the MB also different or did they just have a 
> special cable?
> and how about the power connectors on the MB?
>
> what a mean company. I will never, never buy HP.
>
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>
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> 17:25
>
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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Tue Jun 10 15:55:32 2008
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:55:32 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
References: <200806102049.m5AKnT46000659@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <001201c8cb3c$5344c030$1800a8c0@s1800>

thank you.
so Martin can connect his MB to a standard PS.

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board


> There is usually a small non-standard connector in addition to the 
> standard
> connectors.
>
> The other problem can be the size shape of the power supply for the 
> various
> available specialized cases. The connectors are all standard but the units
> aren't.
>
> John B.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:23 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
>
> so, are the MBs and drives both modified, i.e., have non-standard
> connectors?
> how about the power connectors on the MB?
>
> thanks
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
>
>
>> Sony and some others do the same thing. Parts are big bucks for the OEMs.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:00 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
>>
>> "> Not long ago I looked at my brother's Dell desktop and found that the
>> hard
>>> drive had unique connector ports - a non standard hard drive!  And
>>> this was on a basic Dell desktop.  There was a connector for another
>>> hard drive, but again it would have to have been ordered from Dell (if
>>> available)."
>>
>> OMG!!!
>> Was the connector on the MB also different or did they just have a 
>> special
>> cable?
>> and how about the power connectors on the MB?
>>
>> what a mean company. I will never, never buy HP.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
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>> 09.06.2008
>
>> 17:25
>>
>>
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jun 10 16:25:54 2008
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:25:54 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
In-Reply-To: <001201c8cb3c$5344c030$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <200806102125.m5ALPgne021354@databaseadvisors.com>

I can't ask say for sure. I'd have to know the Dell Service Tag number of
the computer. That's a consumer model and not something I generally deal
with.


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:56 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mother Board

thank you.
so Martin can connect his MB to a standard PS.

Lembit



From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jun 10 18:09:05 2008
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:09:05 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mother Board
In-Reply-To: <200806102125.m5ALPgne021354@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200806102308.m5AN8qGM015657@databaseadvisors.com>

I have no idea how "ask" got in that sentence! 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow

I can't ask say for sure. I'd have to know the Dell Service Tag number of
the computer. That's a consumer model and not something I generally deal
with.



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 14:41:38 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:41:38 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word comment question
Message-ID: <00e301c8cbfb$2bc3a110$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

Can you inhibit the author's name at the beginning of each comment? 

Susan H. 

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 13:41:32 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:41:32 -0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
Message-ID: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>

A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without
opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering
whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, size,
rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.

Anyone know?

TIA,
Arthur


From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Jun 17 13:47:37 2008
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:47:37 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84A9596ACA2843A3988C5E77EBC4B94C@jt2c>

Arthur, 

That should all be detailed in the BIOS. You could even download a program
called Hardtune, which will tell you al lthat kinad thing too.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: 17 June 2008 19:42
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box

A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without
opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering
whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, size,
rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.

Anyone know?

TIA,
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 14:36:35 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:36:35 -0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <84A9596ACA2843A3988C5E77EBC4B94C@jt2c>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<84A9596ACA2843A3988C5E77EBC4B94C@jt2c>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0806171236p2ca73456m14bbd17597c4c407@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Joh. I googled Hardtune and all I came up with is what appear to be
references to a band of that name. But I'll keep hunting. None of this would
be necessary if I could figure out how to get the drive out. It's in a Dell
Optiplex GS620 and it's simple enough to open the case and unscrew two
screws, but it appears that four screws are holding the drive in, and I
can't seem to get the other side of the box off. I figured maybe it was one
of those things with rails and it just slides out, but it won't budge.

Anyone got one of these machines? How about you Gustav? I know you're a big
Dell fan :)

My gut tells me that it's a Maxtor EIDE, partly because the RAM is twin 512
chips and the drive is only 80 gigs, so I'm pretty sure that it's EIDE. I
thought that at one time SATA cables were distinguished from IDE cables by
having a black edge as well as the red edge. Is that still true, if it ever
was?

A.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Jon Tydda <jon at tydda.plus.com> wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> That should all be detailed in the BIOS. You could even download a program
> called Hardtune, which will tell you al lthat kinad thing too.
>
>
> Jon
>


From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Jun 17 14:44:19 2008
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:44:19 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0806171236p2ca73456m14bbd17597c4c407@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com><84A9596ACA2843A3988C5E77EBC4B94C@jt2c>
	<29f585dd0806171236p2ca73456m14bbd17597c4c407@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BDD25EAA0833424798F685D24F8800D7@jt2c>

Sorry Arthur, it's HDTune. The version I have is 2.1, but that's hundreds of
years old now :-)

Look here: http://www.hdtune.com/


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: 17 June 2008 20:37
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

Thanks, Joh. I googled Hardtune and all I came up with is what appear to be
references to a band of that name. But I'll keep hunting. None of this would
be necessary if I could figure out how to get the drive out. It's in a Dell
Optiplex GS620 and it's simple enough to open the case and unscrew two
screws, but it appears that four screws are holding the drive in, and I
can't seem to get the other side of the box off. I figured maybe it was one
of those things with rails and it just slides out, but it won't budge.

Anyone got one of these machines? How about you Gustav? I know you're a big
Dell fan :)

My gut tells me that it's a Maxtor EIDE, partly because the RAM is twin 512
chips and the drive is only 80 gigs, so I'm pretty sure that it's EIDE. I
thought that at one time SATA cables were distinguished from IDE cables by
having a black edge as well as the red edge. Is that still true, if it ever
was?

A.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Jon Tydda <jon at tydda.plus.com> wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> That should all be detailed in the BIOS. You could even download a 
> program called Hardtune, which will tell you al lthat kinad thing too.
>
>
> Jon
>
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From rustykh at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 17 14:59:12 2008
From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:59:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
Message-ID: <706351.86088.qm@web65410.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Arthur,

Is the cage the hard drive sits in a 3.5" drive cage attached to the bottom of the rest of the drive cage?  If so, I've seen on Dell computers where you have to remove the drive cage that the hard drive sits in.  It's usually just one or two screws then the hard drive cage slips right out.

Rusty
  


----- Original Message ----
From: Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:36:35 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box

Thanks, Joh. I googled Hardtune and all I came up with is what appear to be
references to a band of that name. But I'll keep hunting. None of this would
be necessary if I could figure out how to get the drive out. It's in a Dell
Optiplex GS620 and it's simple enough to open the case and unscrew two
screws, but it appears that four screws are holding the drive in, and I
can't seem to get the other side of the box off. I figured maybe it was one
of those things with rails and it just slides out, but it won't budge.

Anyone got one of these machines? How about you Gustav? I know you're a big
Dell fan :)

My gut tells me that it's a Maxtor EIDE, partly because the RAM is twin 512
chips and the drive is only 80 gigs, so I'm pretty sure that it's EIDE. I
thought that at one time SATA cables were distinguished from IDE cables by
having a black edge as well as the red edge. Is that still true, if it ever
was?

A.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Jon Tydda <jon at tydda.plus.com> wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> That should all be detailed in the BIOS. You could even download a program
> called Hardtune, which will tell you al lthat kinad thing too.
>
>
> Jon
>
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From bill_patten at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 17 15:41:41 2008
From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:41:41 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B51996165B9443E0A773AF49F63B4AB1@BPCS>

Arthur,

Download a free program called SIW from www.gtropala.com or Google SIW. Run 
the program and then on the left tree click on Hardware/storage devices. 
Then highlight the hard drive on the top of the right hand window and you 
will find more information about the hard drive than you can ever want to 
know in the lower pane.

You will then find that SIW will give you all kinds of data about your 
computer including some passwords, license codes and on and on.

If you are using Vista you will get can't load a dll but most things work 
anyway if you keep on going.


HTH

Bill


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box


A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without
opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering
whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, size,
rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.

Anyone know?

TIA,
Arthur
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From bill_patten at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 17 15:47:28 2008
From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:47:28 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81CAFEF2C8F9462CB257DB74BEB501BD@BPCS>

Arthur,

Just a quick update on SIW, I just upgraded to the latest version and I no 
longer get the DLL error in Vista...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box


A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without
opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering
whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, size,
rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.

Anyone know?

TIA,
Arthur
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From drboz at pacbell.net  Tue Jun 17 16:35:22 2008
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:35:22 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<81CAFEF2C8F9462CB257DB74BEB501BD@BPCS>
Message-ID: <010601c8d0c2$0d1ff490$6701a8c0@Don>

Neither HDTune nor SIW will always properly identify the drive. 
Particularly in RAID configurations, where a SATA drive may be reported as 
IDE.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Patten" <bill_patten at embarqmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
box


> Arthur,
>
> Just a quick update on SIW, I just upgraded to the latest version and I no
> longer get the DLL error in Vista...
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, 
> size,
> rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
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From bill_patten at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 17 19:42:00 2008
From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:42:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <010601c8d0c2$0d1ff490$6701a8c0@Don>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com><81CAFEF2C8F9462CB257DB74BEB501BD@BPCS>
	<010601c8d0c2$0d1ff490$6701a8c0@Don>
Message-ID: <0D2C6861B551444A8B5996D5C98CDF1B@BPCS>

Hi Don,

You could be correct about always, but SIW does show my interface as ATA SATA-II and it does give me the model and serial number so I guess if I thought it was wrong I could always Google the model number.

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Bozarth" <drboz at pacbell.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box


Neither HDTune nor SIW will always properly identify the drive. 
Particularly in RAID configurations, where a SATA drive may be reported as 
IDE.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Patten" <bill_patten at embarqmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
box


> Arthur,
>
> Just a quick update on SIW, I just upgraded to the latest version and I no
> longer get the DLL error in Vista...
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, 
> size,
> rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Jun 18 08:05:42 2008
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:05:42 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <010601c8d0c2$0d1ff490$6701a8c0@Don>
Message-ID: <BLU103-DAV2BC7991323864F71B3DABD2AB0@phx.gbl>

SIW and RAID - I have two RAID controllers in PCI slots;  one is labelled
'SCSI', the other 'IDE'.  Both are running only SATA drives.  No actual
drive information is available.  Otherwise SIW looks interesting and useful.

HD Tune 2.55, on the other hand, seized up my PC completely - two minutes
per mouse movement, before I finally got it to reboot.  After reboot, with
nothing else running, it failed to do anything, permanently showing either
hourglass or 'not responding', yet still succeeding in slugging my PC if I
tried to do something useful like use Task Manager (to throw it off).
Clearly cr*p software, now uninstalled and never to be tried again!!
Actually it did do just one useful thing: uninstall.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Don Bozarth
Sent: 17 June 2008 22:35
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box


Neither HDTune nor SIW will always properly identify the drive. 
Particularly in RAID configurations, where a SATA drive may be reported as 
IDE.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Patten" <bill_patten at embarqmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
box


> Arthur,
>
> Just a quick update on SIW, I just upgraded to the latest version and 
> I no longer get the DLL error in Vista...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
> box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without 
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering 
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, 
> size, rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Jun 18 08:28:13 2008
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:28:13 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-DAV2BC7991323864F71B3DABD2AB0@phx.gbl>
References: <010601c8d0c2$0d1ff490$6701a8c0@Don>
	<BLU103-DAV2BC7991323864F71B3DABD2AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7B45474BEC18493987EBA8108B13C7E3@jt2c>

Oh, sorry to hear that John. I've never had a problem with HD Tune. I
installed 2.55 myself last night,and have had no detrimental effects. But
you probably didn't want to hear that :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 18 June 2008 14:06
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

SIW and RAID - I have two RAID controllers in PCI slots;  one is labelled
'SCSI', the other 'IDE'.  Both are running only SATA drives.  No actual
drive information is available.  Otherwise SIW looks interesting and useful.

HD Tune 2.55, on the other hand, seized up my PC completely - two minutes
per mouse movement, before I finally got it to reboot.  After reboot, with
nothing else running, it failed to do anything, permanently showing either
hourglass or 'not responding', yet still succeeding in slugging my PC if I
tried to do something useful like use Task Manager (to throw it off).
Clearly cr*p software, now uninstalled and never to be tried again!!
Actually it did do just one useful thing: uninstall.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Don Bozarth
Sent: 17 June 2008 22:35
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box


Neither HDTune nor SIW will always properly identify the drive. 
Particularly in RAID configurations, where a SATA drive may be reported as
IDE.

Don B.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Patten" <bill_patten at embarqmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box


> Arthur,
>
> Just a quick update on SIW, I just upgraded to the latest version and 
> I no longer get the DLL error in Vista...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
> box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without 
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering 
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, 
> size, rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From djkr at msn.com  Wed Jun 18 08:52:41 2008
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:52:41 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <7B45474BEC18493987EBA8108B13C7E3@jt2c>
Message-ID: <BLU103-DAV16BBABE12BCB2BFC27E76D2AB0@phx.gbl>

I'm happy for you, Jon, and hope it continues to work for you.  But you will
understand why I would have to give HDTune 0/10 for anyone asking my
opinion, particularly any clients.  It's not as though my PC is anything
weird like a Dell ...

John


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: 18 June 2008 14:28
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box


Oh, sorry to hear that John. I've never had a problem with HD Tune. I
installed 2.55 myself last night,and have had no detrimental effects. But
you probably didn't want to hear that :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 18 June 2008 14:06
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

SIW and RAID - I have two RAID controllers in PCI slots;  one is labelled
'SCSI', the other 'IDE'.  Both are running only SATA drives.  No actual
drive information is available.  Otherwise SIW looks interesting and useful.

HD Tune 2.55, on the other hand, seized up my PC completely - two minutes
per mouse movement, before I finally got it to reboot.  After reboot, with
nothing else running, it failed to do anything, permanently showing either
hourglass or 'not responding', yet still succeeding in slugging my PC if I
tried to do something useful like use Task Manager (to throw it off).
Clearly cr*p software, now uninstalled and never to be tried again!!
Actually it did do just one useful thing: uninstall.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Don Bozarth
Sent: 17 June 2008 22:35
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box


Neither HDTune nor SIW will always properly identify the drive. 
Particularly in RAID configurations, where a SATA drive may be reported as
IDE.

Don B.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Patten" <bill_patten at embarqmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box


> Arthur,
>
> Just a quick update on SIW, I just upgraded to the latest version and
> I no longer get the DLL error in Vista...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
> box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering 
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, 
> size, rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Wed Jun 18 09:13:05 2008
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:13:05 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-DAV16BBABE12BCB2BFC27E76D2AB0@phx.gbl>
References: <7B45474BEC18493987EBA8108B13C7E3@jt2c>
	<BLU103-DAV16BBABE12BCB2BFC27E76D2AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C07B73F0E6B44E2E909ADDA84142E2E7@jt2c>

Totally :-)


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 18 June 2008 14:53
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

I'm happy for you, Jon, and hope it continues to work for you.  But you will
understand why I would have to give HDTune 0/10 for anyone asking my
opinion, particularly any clients.  It's not as though my PC is anything
weird like a Dell ...

John


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: 18 June 2008 14:28
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box


Oh, sorry to hear that John. I've never had a problem with HD Tune. I
installed 2.55 myself last night,and have had no detrimental effects. But
you probably didn't want to hear that :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 18 June 2008 14:06
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

SIW and RAID - I have two RAID controllers in PCI slots;  one is labelled
'SCSI', the other 'IDE'.  Both are running only SATA drives.  No actual
drive information is available.  Otherwise SIW looks interesting and useful.

HD Tune 2.55, on the other hand, seized up my PC completely - two minutes
per mouse movement, before I finally got it to reboot.  After reboot, with
nothing else running, it failed to do anything, permanently showing either
hourglass or 'not responding', yet still succeeding in slugging my PC if I
tried to do something useful like use Task Manager (to throw it off).
Clearly cr*p software, now uninstalled and never to be tried again!!
Actually it did do just one useful thing: uninstall.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Don Bozarth
Sent: 17 June 2008 22:35
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box


Neither HDTune nor SIW will always properly identify the drive. 
Particularly in RAID configurations, where a SATA drive may be reported as
IDE.

Don B.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Patten" <bill_patten at embarqmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box


> Arthur,
>
> Just a quick update on SIW, I just upgraded to the latest version and 
> I no longer get the DLL error in Vista...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
> box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without 
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering 
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, 
> size, rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 15:10:26 2008
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:10:26 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0806171236p2ca73456m14bbd17597c4c407@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<84A9596ACA2843A3988C5E77EBC4B94C@jt2c>
	<29f585dd0806171236p2ca73456m14bbd17597c4c407@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920806181310j433f5037qed8be9ed0a54c3bb@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Joh. I googled Hardtune and all I came up with is what appear to be
> references to a band of that name. But I'll keep hunting. None of this would
> be necessary if I could figure out how to get the drive out. It's in a Dell
> Optiplex GS620 and it's simple enough to open the case and unscrew two

Just goto Dell's website. There is a place where you can enter the
service code $ I think and it will tell you the specs of the box.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 16:00:11 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:00:11 -0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920806181310j433f5037qed8be9ed0a54c3bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<84A9596ACA2843A3988C5E77EBC4B94C@jt2c>
	<29f585dd0806171236p2ca73456m14bbd17597c4c407@mail.gmail.com>
	<e04a6c920806181310j433f5037qed8be9ed0a54c3bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0806181400h427f31a6i40ee2aece80c5854@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to you all for the wealth of info. Lots to consider and weigh and try
out. Yet another instance of why I love this group.

Arthur
Defeater of the Saxons, etc.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks, Joh. I googled Hardtune and all I came up with is what appear to
> be
> > references to a band of that name. But I'll keep hunting. None of this
> would
> > be necessary if I could figure out how to get the drive out. It's in a
> Dell
> > Optiplex GS620 and it's simple enough to open the case and unscrew two
>
> Just goto Dell's website. There is a place where you can enter the
> service code $ I think and it will tell you the specs of the box.
>
> --
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 06:59:44 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:59:44 -0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bizarre Web Site Behavior
Message-ID: <29f585dd0806190459r28eec989yec87f274a4bf584c@mail.gmail.com>

We just had a user report a very bizarre event. He logged onto our site
using his userID and password, and the data presented to him belonged to
someone else. There's no way that someone could incorrectly type both the
user name and password and guess 100% correct on both counts. I'm no expert
on IIS but I can't see anything wrong with the sproc that manages the login.
Is it possible that IIS confused its sessions? I have no idea where to look
for the resolution to this problem. It should also be pointed out that this
has never happened before (or since).

Arthur


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 19 11:55:30 2008
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:55:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bizarre Web Site Behavior
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0806190459r28eec989yec87f274a4bf584c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0806190459r28eec989yec87f274a4bf584c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485A8F82.2040802@earthlink.net>

>Is it possible that IIS confused its sessions?

If the other user was online, mebbe. Otherwise an index error?

P.

Arthur Fuller wrote:
> We just had a user report a very bizarre event. He logged onto our site
> using his userID and password, and the data presented to him belonged to
> someone else. There's no way that someone could incorrectly type both the
> user name and password and guess 100% correct on both counts. I'm no expert
> on IIS but I can't see anything wrong with the sproc that manages the login.
> Is it possible that IIS confused its sessions? I have no idea where to look
> for the resolution to this problem. It should also be pointed out that this
> has never happened before (or since).
>
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG. 
> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 6/18/2008 7:09 AM
>   


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 12:20:02 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:20:02 -0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bizarre Web Site Behavior
In-Reply-To: <485A8F82.2040802@earthlink.net>
References: <29f585dd0806190459r28eec989yec87f274a4bf584c@mail.gmail.com>
	<485A8F82.2040802@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0806191020i3f366039o769b2537801130c9@mail.gmail.com>

Could be, I guess, but I've never seen it happen before. Could be just one
of those special treats from Bill Gates.

A.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Peter Brawley <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> >Is it possible that IIS confused its sessions?
>
> If the other user was online, mebbe. Otherwise an index error?
>
> P.
>


From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Jun 21 06:29:56 2008
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:29:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <B51996165B9443E0A773AF49F63B4AB1@BPCS>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<B51996165B9443E0A773AF49F63B4AB1@BPCS>
Message-ID: <485CE634.9030505@torchlake.com>

Bill,

The site is www.gtopala.com.  You have an extra "r" in there.

Tina

Bill Patten wrote:
> Arthur,
>
> Download a free program called SIW from www.gtropala.com or Google SIW. Run 
> the program and then on the left tree click on Hardware/storage devices. 
> Then highlight the hard drive on the top of the right hand window and you 
> will find more information about the hard drive than you can ever want to 
> know in the lower pane.
>
> You will then find that SIW will give you all kinds of data about your 
> computer including some passwords, license codes and on and on.
>
> If you are using Vista you will get can't load a dll but most things work 
> anyway if you keep on going.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, size,
> rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>   


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Jun 21 07:33:53 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:33:53 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <485CE634.9030505@torchlake.com>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com><B51996165B9443E0A773AF49F63B4AB1@BPCS>
	<485CE634.9030505@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <001101c8d39b$11787e00$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Tine:

I just found this one yesterday, but it looks like maybe a sub-set of yours.
I had a svchost process taking 50% of the CPU cycles and came across this
trying to google what was going wrong.

It's a bit too technical for me but maybe somebody will like it.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:30 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

Bill,

The site is www.gtopala.com.  You have an extra "r" in there.

Tina

Bill Patten wrote:
> Arthur,
>
> Download a free program called SIW from www.gtropala.com or Google 
> SIW. Run the program and then on the left tree click on Hardware/storage
devices.
> Then highlight the hard drive on the top of the right hand window and 
> you will find more information about the hard drive than you can ever 
> want to know in the lower pane.
>
> You will then find that SIW will give you all kinds of data about your 
> computer including some passwords, license codes and on and on.
>
> If you are using Vista you will get can't load a dll but most things 
> work anyway if you keep on going.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
> box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without 
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering 
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, 
> size, rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>   
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 21 11:55:11 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:55:11 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <001101c8d39b$11787e00$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<B51996165B9443E0A773AF49F63B4AB1@BPCS>
	<485CE634.9030505@torchlake.com>
	<001101c8d39b$11787e00$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <0D564C43A51F44F9BF52F1DC47A92795@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Guys: 

This is an excellent product for finding problems on your home business
servers. The amount of information that it gives back can be a bit
overwhelming so, if you do not have to, do not allow it to run more than a
few minutes. If you are hunting for an intermittent problem make sure you
have a few GB free for the log file.

The app did point out, that in certain condition both MS Outlook and IE6
bleed like stuck pigs and have to be terminated using Task Manger.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 5:34 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

Tine:

I just found this one yesterday, but it looks like maybe a sub-set of yours.
I had a svchost process taking 50% of the CPU cycles and came across this
trying to google what was going wrong.

It's a bit too technical for me but maybe somebody will like it.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:30 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

Bill,

The site is www.gtopala.com.  You have an extra "r" in there.

Tina

Bill Patten wrote:
> Arthur,
>
> Download a free program called SIW from www.gtropala.com or Google 
> SIW. Run the program and then on the left tree click on Hardware/storage
devices.
> Then highlight the hard drive on the top of the right hand window and 
> you will find more information about the hard drive than you can ever 
> want to know in the lower pane.
>
> You will then find that SIW will give you all kinds of data about your 
> computer including some passwords, license codes and on and on.
>
> If you are using Vista you will get can't load a dll but most things 
> work anyway if you keep on going.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
> box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without 
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering 
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, 
> size, rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>   
_______________________________________________
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Jun 21 12:12:17 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:12:17 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the box
In-Reply-To: <0D564C43A51F44F9BF52F1DC47A92795@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <29f585dd0806171141i654719c3j2f22b9ff62e311c7@mail.gmail.com><B51996165B9443E0A773AF49F63B4AB1@BPCS><485CE634.9030505@torchlake.com><001101c8d39b$11787e00$0301a8c0@HAL9005>
	<0D564C43A51F44F9BF52F1DC47A92795@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <005b01c8d3c1$f56e1400$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

I just found out the AVG 8.0 using the Resident Shield was virus scanning my
mdb while I was developing it.  Slowed everything to a crawl.  Found some
info on the web that led me to the dialog box where is shows what file
extensions it checks and I took out md*.




Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

Guys: 

This is an excellent product for finding problems on your home business
servers. The amount of information that it gives back can be a bit
overwhelming so, if you do not have to, do not allow it to run more than a
few minutes. If you are hunting for an intermittent problem make sure you
have a few GB free for the log file.

The app did point out, that in certain condition both MS Outlook and IE6
bleed like stuck pigs and have to be terminated using Task Manger.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 5:34 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

Tine:

I just found this one yesterday, but it looks like maybe a sub-set of yours.
I had a svchost process taking 50% of the CPU cycles and came across this
trying to google what was going wrong.

It's a bit too technical for me but maybe somebody will like it.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:30 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the
box

Bill,

The site is www.gtopala.com.  You have an extra "r" in there.

Tina

Bill Patten wrote:
> Arthur,
>
> Download a free program called SIW from www.gtropala.com or Google 
> SIW. Run the program and then on the left tree click on 
> Hardware/storage
devices.
> Then highlight the hard drive on the top of the right hand window and 
> you will find more information about the hard drive than you can ever 
> want to know in the lower pane.
>
> You will then find that SIW will give you all kinds of data about your 
> computer including some passwords, license codes and on and on.
>
> If you are using Vista you will get can't load a dll but most things 
> work anyway if you keep on going.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:41 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Determine the hard drive type without opening the 
> box
>
>
> A while back I started a thread about determining the CPU type without 
> opening the box, and received several good answers. Now I'm wondering 
> whether I can determine the type of hard drive(s) installed -- maker, 
> size, rpm, IDE or SCSI or SATA, etc.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>   
_______________________________________________
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Jun 25 12:47:22 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:47:22 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Reset Windows passwords with the Offline NT Password and
	Registry Editor
Message-ID: <004901c8d6eb$85f3b8a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005>

Interesting video on Tech Republic today.  Maybe someone can use this:
 
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=140?tag=nl.e099.dl062508
<http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=140?tag=nl.e099.dl062508&tag=nl
.e099> &tag=nl.e099


 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 

 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 13:05:16 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:05:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Office Live Small Business
Message-ID: <01e001c8d6ee$06c7b150$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

Do/have any of you recommended Office Live Small Business to smaller clients? If so, how'd it go?

Susan H. 

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 08:19:24 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:19:24 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Flags in Outlook
Message-ID: <012b01c8d78f$41ec4ec0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=585

====Readers are asking if there's anyway to add flags to Outlook. I don't know of any and I don't think you can. Anyone know a way? You really don't have to read the above, just dropped it in "in case." 

Susan H. 

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 09:49:00 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:00 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics
Message-ID: <013401c8d92e$1d1be6f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

I need some quick statistics on telecommuting -- I need to know how the trend is growing (or not). I'll be looking, but if you know a site that has this kind of information, a link would save me some research time. 

Thanks!
Susan H. 

From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Jun 28 11:17:33 2008
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:17:33 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics
In-Reply-To: <013401c8d92e$1d1be6f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <013401c8d92e$1d1be6f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4866641D.6020904@torchlake.com>

And, Susan, when you find out more about the subject and its trends, 
please share that information.  I am personally trying to secure a 
position as adjunct instructor online with some college or university.  
My middle daughter is a techie-type with Bank of America and does a 
great deal of remote work - in fact, I believe she is classified as a 
"remote worker."  I do not have statistics to share, I just have some 
personal experiences - both my degrees were completed online, so all of 
my instructors were to some degree "remote workers" or "telecommuters," 
as were all my classmates.  One of my classmates was serving in 
Afghanistan when he began the degree program - the university is in 
Bellevue, Nebraska - quite a "commute."
 
Thanks for tackling this research.
Tina

Susan Harkins wrote:
> I need some quick statistics on telecommuting -- I need to know how the trend is growing (or not). I'll be looking, but if you know a site that has this kind of information, a link would save me some research time. 
>
> Thanks!
> Susan H. 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>   


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 28 17:22:00 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:22:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics
In-Reply-To: <013401c8d92e$1d1be6f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <013401c8d92e$1d1be6f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <B96890D1B165407A82CE3398734C24B7@creativesystemdesigns.com>

You have probably already viewed these sites but if you have not here are
the links:

http://www.networkworld.com/net.worker/research/quickstats.html
http://www.allbusiness.com/telecommuting/3132006-1.html
http://www.tjobs.com/

Most of my support work is done from my office where I support clients as
far away as Florida, England and even once in Australia. 

As far as I am concerned the trend is growing rapidly as I have been very
busy working through Toronto for Fujitsu, Soroc, Banctec, Getronics,
Staples, McDonalds, Body Shop, Mariposa, Sony, Payless, CIBC, BMO, Nova
Scotia, Dell etc etc... 

Just finished setting a Travel Agency up so their workers can just
telecommute through a web phone system. There will be only 3 workers in the
store front office, just to keep a profile. Once their web is stable they
will be closing the office all together.

I am current working on a large job that will see all the main servers moved
out of over 1100 banks and replace with small cheap desktop type servers
which are little more than Cyrix satellite terminals. All the work within
the banks will be done via remote applications, hosted out of Toronto and
many cases remote workers.   

Five years ago this would have been all out of the question. I predict that
within 5 years most of us will just be remote workers using remote
applications.

Regards
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:49 AM
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics

I need some quick statistics on telecommuting -- I need to know how the
trend is growing (or not). I'll be looking, but if you know a site that has
this kind of information, a link would save me some research time. 

Thanks!
Susan H. 
_______________________________________________
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 17:26:59 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:26:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics
References: <013401c8d92e$1d1be6f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<B96890D1B165407A82CE3398734C24B7@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <00f601c8d96e$17117870$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

>
> As far as I am concerned the trend is growing rapidly as I have been very
> busy working through Toronto for Fujitsu, Soroc, Banctec, Getronics,
> Staples, McDonalds, Body Shop, Mariposa, Sony, Payless, CIBC, BMO, Nova
> Scotia, Dell etc etc...

=========Not rapidly enough, as far as I'm concerned. Also, the larger 
companies are more apt to work with remote employees. Smaller companies are 
still stuck in the Dark Ages, and I can't say why, although, I can complain 
about it. :) A quick check on dice.com showed 1/2 a percent for a general 
search on "SQL Server developer" allowing telecommute. Potential clients 
still want me to sit in a cubicle under their thumb. I didn't do that 10 
years ago and I don't know why I would do it now -- but doesn't seem any 
better than 10 years ago.

>
> Five years ago this would have been all out of the question. I predict 
> that
> within 5 years most of us will just be remote workers using remote
> applications.

==========Beam him up Scotty! ;)

Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 28 18:09:01 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:09:01 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics
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Hi Susan:

I find it difficult to believe that there is only half a percent of remote
work available but certain types of jobs dictate on site work support as
much of my jobs are that.
 
You may have been looking at the wrong place for remote projects and jobs.
Check out http://www.guru.com. I have picked up a number of remote job
opportunities both direct and indirect through this online pimping
company... I am sure there is a lot more out there.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:27 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] statistics

>
> As far as I am concerned the trend is growing rapidly as I have been very
> busy working through Toronto for Fujitsu, Soroc, Banctec, Getronics,
> Staples, McDonalds, Body Shop, Mariposa, Sony, Payless, CIBC, BMO, Nova
> Scotia, Dell etc etc...

=========Not rapidly enough, as far as I'm concerned. Also, the larger 
companies are more apt to work with remote employees. Smaller companies are 
still stuck in the Dark Ages, and I can't say why, although, I can complain 
about it. :) A quick check on dice.com showed 1/2 a percent for a general 
search on "SQL Server developer" allowing telecommute. Potential clients 
still want me to sit in a cubicle under their thumb. I didn't do that 10 
years ago and I don't know why I would do it now -- but doesn't seem any 
better than 10 years ago.

>
> Five years ago this would have been all out of the question. I predict 
> that
> within 5 years most of us will just be remote workers using remote
> applications.

==========Beam him up Scotty! ;)

Susan H. 

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From drboz at pacbell.net  Sat Jun 28 18:05:23 2008
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:05:23 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics
References: <013401c8d92e$1d1be6f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><B96890D1B165407A82CE3398734C24B7@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<00f601c8d96e$17117870$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <001601c8d973$723c9ae0$6601a8c0@Don>

I've been telecommuting for over 20 years... and I do work for a large 
corporation... but that doesn't take them out of the dark ages.  We have a 
VP who is adamantly opposed to telecommuting... and yes he wants everyone to 
be under someones thumb.

Now I'll be the first to say that not everyone can or should telecommute... 
it takes a discipline that some folks just don't have.  That "office" space 
in my home is my "office" at work... don't interrupt me, don't bother me 
with questions, don't talk to me when I'm on the phone, etc., etc.  My 
results over those 20+ years are better than most who occupy a "real" 
office, and that does make a difference.

When they decide I can't telecomute anymore, I'll decide to retire.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] statistics


> >
>> As far as I am concerned the trend is growing rapidly as I have been very
>> busy working through Toronto for Fujitsu, Soroc, Banctec, Getronics,
>> Staples, McDonalds, Body Shop, Mariposa, Sony, Payless, CIBC, BMO, Nova
>> Scotia, Dell etc etc...
>
> =========Not rapidly enough, as far as I'm concerned. Also, the larger
> companies are more apt to work with remote employees. Smaller companies 
> are
> still stuck in the Dark Ages, and I can't say why, although, I can 
> complain
> about it. :) A quick check on dice.com showed 1/2 a percent for a general
> search on "SQL Server developer" allowing telecommute. Potential clients
> still want me to sit in a cubicle under their thumb. I didn't do that 10
> years ago and I don't know why I would do it now -- but doesn't seem any
> better than 10 years ago.
>
>>
>> Five years ago this would have been all out of the question. I predict
>> that
>> within 5 years most of us will just be remote workers using remote
>> applications.
>
> ==========Beam him up Scotty! ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 18:48:42 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:48:42 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics
References: <013401c8d92e$1d1be6f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><B96890D1B165407A82CE3398734C24B7@creativesystemdesigns.com><00f601c8d96e$17117870$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<EBE2407F7BD249008E1835B9CF88F490@creativesystemdesigns.com>
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Thanks -- it'll make a good comparison. Yes, I realize that some jobs don't 
lend well to remote work, but I used the term developer for a reason --  
that's one of the jobs that you would think would be the easiest to support 
remotely.

A quick check on MS Access developer, found hundreds, but only 10 that 
supported telecommuting, and then in actually reviewing those hits, I found 
that MS Access was a tag-along and not the main skill.

sologig.com is for freelancers and contract workers almost exclusively --  
almost none of them are for telecommuters.

Susan H.


> Hi Susan:
>
> I find it difficult to believe that there is only half a percent of remote
> work available but certain types of jobs dictate on site work support as
> much of my jobs are that.
>
> You may have been looking at the wrong place for remote projects and jobs.
> Check out http://www.guru.com. I have picked up a number of remote job
> opportunities both direct and indirect through this online pimping
> company... I am sure there is a lot more out there.



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 18:54:20 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:54:20 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics
References: <013401c8d92e$1d1be6f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><B96890D1B165407A82CE3398734C24B7@creativesystemdesigns.com><00f601c8d96e$17117870$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<001601c8d973$723c9ae0$6601a8c0@Don>
Message-ID: <015601c8d97a$55ad2ff0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

The Cobb Group experimented with it and they were, in all honestly, a 
perfect match for remote working, in my opinion. We did meet regularly, but 
teleconfercing and meeting software make even that unnecessary.

I did it for about 9 weeks when my dad was dying of cancer. I moved my 
computers into his living room and worked from his place. It worked very 
well in my opinion, but weeks after I returned my boss told me that it 
didn't. I asked her for examples of problems, but she couldn't supply 
them -- she just said it was difficult. I think that what that really meant 
was -- "... it wasn't what we were all used to and some of us had to adapt 
to different expectations for a while, and we didn't like it..."  -- but I 
didn't say that to her of course.

It is different and it does require a different set of rules and 
expectations.

Susan H.



> I've been telecommuting for over 20 years... and I do work for a large
> corporation... but that doesn't take them out of the dark ages.  We have a
> VP who is adamantly opposed to telecommuting... and yes he wants everyone 
> to
> be under someones thumb.
>
> Now I'll be the first to say that not everyone can or should 
> telecommute...
> it takes a discipline that some folks just don't have.  That "office" 
> space
> in my home is my "office" at work... don't interrupt me, don't bother me
> with questions, don't talk to me when I'm on the phone, etc., etc.  My
> results over those 20+ years are better than most who occupy a "real"
> office, and that does make a difference.
>
> When they decide I can't telecomute anymore, I'll decide to retire.
>
> Don B.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] statistics
>
>
>> >
>>> As far as I am concerned the trend is growing rapidly as I have been 
>>> very
>>> busy working through Toronto for Fujitsu, Soroc, Banctec, Getronics,
>>> Staples, McDonalds, Body Shop, Mariposa, Sony, Payless, CIBC, BMO, Nova
>>> Scotia, Dell etc etc...
>>
>> =========Not rapidly enough, as far as I'm concerned. Also, the larger
>> companies are more apt to work with remote employees. Smaller companies
>> are
>> still stuck in the Dark Ages, and I can't say why, although, I can
>> complain
>> about it. :) A quick check on dice.com showed 1/2 a percent for a general
>> search on "SQL Server developer" allowing telecommute. Potential clients
>> still want me to sit in a cubicle under their thumb. I didn't do that 10
>> years ago and I don't know why I would do it now -- but doesn't seem any
>> better than 10 years ago.
>>
>>>
>>> Five years ago this would have been all out of the question. I predict
>>> that
>>> within 5 years most of us will just be remote workers using remote
>>> applications.
>>
>> ==========Beam him up Scotty! ;)
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 28 19:06:33 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:06:33 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] statistics
In-Reply-To: <001601c8d973$723c9ae0$6601a8c0@Don>
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	<001601c8d973$723c9ae0$6601a8c0@Don>
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Hi Don:

Back in the early 90's IBM did a study on work production for remote and
office workers. The results were that remote workers produced more and so
the company has continued to encourage telecommuting where at all possible.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Don Bozarth
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:05 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] statistics

I've been telecommuting for over 20 years... and I do work for a large 
corporation... but that doesn't take them out of the dark ages.  We have a 
VP who is adamantly opposed to telecommuting... and yes he wants everyone to

be under someones thumb.

Now I'll be the first to say that not everyone can or should telecommute... 
it takes a discipline that some folks just don't have.  That "office" space 
in my home is my "office" at work... don't interrupt me, don't bother me 
with questions, don't talk to me when I'm on the phone, etc., etc.  My 
results over those 20+ years are better than most who occupy a "real" 
office, and that does make a difference.

When they decide I can't telecomute anymore, I'll decide to retire.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] statistics


> >
>> As far as I am concerned the trend is growing rapidly as I have been very
>> busy working through Toronto for Fujitsu, Soroc, Banctec, Getronics,
>> Staples, McDonalds, Body Shop, Mariposa, Sony, Payless, CIBC, BMO, Nova
>> Scotia, Dell etc etc...
>
> =========Not rapidly enough, as far as I'm concerned. Also, the larger
> companies are more apt to work with remote employees. Smaller companies 
> are
> still stuck in the Dark Ages, and I can't say why, although, I can 
> complain
> about it. :) A quick check on dice.com showed 1/2 a percent for a general
> search on "SQL Server developer" allowing telecommute. Potential clients
> still want me to sit in a cubicle under their thumb. I didn't do that 10
> years ago and I don't know why I would do it now -- but doesn't seem any
> better than 10 years ago.
>
>>
>> Five years ago this would have been all out of the question. I predict
>> that
>> within 5 years most of us will just be remote workers using remote
>> applications.
>
> ==========Beam him up Scotty! ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 09:23:35 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:23:35 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Too funny!
Message-ID: <012301c8d9f3$b8f7d870$2f8601c7@SusanOne>



http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Stalled-Server-Room.aspx>

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 30 11:50:41 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:50:41 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dynamic DNS
In-Reply-To: <012301c8d9f3$b8f7d870$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <012301c8d9f3$b8f7d870$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <19DD5B2E5626456EA2A15EF92F5F80C6@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Recently, due to external forces, my servers were off line for a few hours
and I was blissfully unaware until I started getting calls... (My static IP
had been changed without my knowledge...)

I have been looking into dynamic DNS services that could solve any future
similar issues. Hera are the two I have been reviewing but I wonder is any
of you have had experience with the folowing two products:

1. http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/
...and...
2. http://www.dnsomatic.com/

I am leaning towards the second product as it links to my NameService
provider, ZoneEdit

Comments please.

Jim