[dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Thu Mar 27 16:28:34 CDT 2008


Which would imply that if a VM isn't running, then you don't need a license
for that machine, at that instance. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:43 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access

John

Its an issue we have come up against. I have a meeting with MS licensing
when I get back to work. We will be running development platforms for each
developer - Windows Server 2003/MOSS 2007/Office 2007/VS 2005 and SQL
Server. The cost to us for each VM could be huge.

The theory as I understand it is that you do need a licence for each OS
running in a VM and that applies to Office etc as well. I will get a better
picture of what they expect once I get back to work. I think its just like
having another physical machine sitting beside you and they would expect
licences for that.

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
Queen's University
Riddel Hall
185 Stranmillis Road
Belfast
BT9 5EE
Tel : 02890974465
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
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Sent: 27 March 2008 20:35
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Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access

The whole "buy a version of windows to run on your already running version
of windows" is a little lame.  OTOH if you are a linux guru you can run
linux on the hardware (server) and then run your XP License on the virtual
machine.  Do you need a new copy of XP for every virtual machine if you are
only running one VM at a time?  Hmm...

I think they (MS) are trying to handle the instance of companies running 5
virtual machines AT THE SAME TIME on a single server.  Obviously you need a
new license of Windows for each VM in that case.  It is not so obvious in
your case.

If you are a developer, you would be well advised to get the action pack
which gives you 10 copies of the various Oss anyway, then you have plenty to
go around.  Of course that also costs a cool $300 per year.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:24 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access

Hi Martin,

Given that I have a full XP Pro installation on my computer (with all the
updates), is there any way to share that OS with a Virtual Machine?

Or, would I take my installation CDs (that came with my computer), and copy
them into a folder to be shared?  Right now, I feel a little bit like Alice
after she fell down the rabbit hole.  Each solution seems to have a catch I
can't quite get around.  I don't have multiple licenses for my Windows XP
Pro.  I do have an older Windows XP Home lying around somewhere, and I have
Win98 still installed on one machine.

For helping my client, I may be better off just installing Access 97 on my
Win98 machine - if that isn't going to ruin my Access 2K already installed
on that machine.  Or, do I dare install Access 97 on my Windows XP Pro
machine?  I've casually read a few of the threads about multiple Access
versions installed on the same machine, but I didn't pay a lot of attention,
because I didn't need to know at that time.

Still falling down the rabbit hole, eager for any assistance before the Red
Queen orders my head be chopped off!!

Thanks,
Tina

Martin W Reid wrote:
> I just installed a server farm at home using Virtual PC on an external
Hard Drive. Made it up as I went along but now have a SharePoint server VM
up and running.
>
> To answer your question I think?
>
> You can download fully working Virtual Machine but in the case of 
> Windows
you simply treat it as another physical machine and install every thing from
the ground up. You will have to have a copy of XP or Visa to install as the
OS on the Virtual PC. You will also need a licence for the OS on the VM and
for everything you put on it.
>
> You can put the XP installation files on the host machine and then 
> simply
share the folder with the Virtual PC thats how I did it. I did find after
the OS was installed everything installed better if the install files when
run directly on the VM.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Martin WP Reid
> Information Services
> Queen's University
> Riddel Hall
> 185 Stranmillis Road
> Belfast
> BT9 5EE
> Tel : 02890974465
> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
>
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