From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Nov 1 00:56:10 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:56:10 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hyper-V Free download In-Reply-To: References: <4f4bf9510810271238l7b53c005kfd6e07ab63a0a6c4@mail.gmail.com> <033f01c939fd$875b3360$96119a20$@net> <03d701c93a07$70fcaf40$52f60dc0$@net> <020901c93aa6$60abe530$2203af90$@net> <7042DD728A93436795CA4CD4B37CB200@creativesystemdesigns.com> <7DD9E434850B4D9EAF6F5BFB89D32E11@danwaters> Message-ID: Hi All: Here is a link to a free download of Microsofts new Hyper-V server: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6067CB24-06CC-483A- AF92-B919F699C3A0&displaylang=en Jim From john at winhaven.net Fri Nov 7 12:24:14 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:24:14 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Thunderbird Bcc Message-ID: <03f101c94106$0a1a3a30$1e4eae90$@net> Any ideas on how to BCC more than one email address in thunderbird without having to click BCC next to each one? John B. From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Nov 9 08:18:08 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:18:08 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] disabled hyperlinks Message-ID: <197101c94275$fec4ffa0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> A reader complains that Word hyperlinks don't work for any of his client systems who are on Windows Server 2003. I'm going to take a look at the Help files and kb, and it might be easy to find, but if you know of a setting that will disable hyperlinks, please let me know. Thanks! Susan H. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Nov 9 09:09:11 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:09:11 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] disabled hyperlinks In-Reply-To: <197101c94275$fec4ffa0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <197101c94275$fec4ffa0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <491789B7.8203.6D2B36F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Doesn't create links, or you can't click on a link? There are a number of settings in word that can affect this. If the first: Autocorrect - Autoformat and Autocorrect - Autoformat As You Type - Internet and Network Paths with hyperlinks If the second: Tools - Options - Edit - Use Ctrl + Click to follow hyperlink or Tools - Options - View - Show Field Codes Alternatively it may be this problem: kbprb KB823301 - Hyperlinks Do Not Work in Outlook Express or in Word SYMPTOMS In Microsoft Outlook Express and in Microsoft Word, hyperlinks appear in underlined blue text, but when you click a hyperlink, nothing may occur. RESOLUTION To resolve this problem, follow these steps: 1. Click Start, click Run, type the following command in the Run dialog box, and then click OK: regsvr32 urlmon.dll 2. Repeat step 1 for each of the following commands: regsvr32 mshtml.dll regsvr32 shdocvw.dll regsvr32 browseui.dll regsvr32 msjava.dll On 9 Nov 2008 at 9:18, Susan Harkins wrote: > A reader complains that Word hyperlinks don't work for any of his client > systems who are on Windows Server 2003. I'm going to take a look at the Help > files and kb, and it might be easy to find, but if you know of a setting > that will disable hyperlinks, please let me know. > > Thanks! > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Nov 9 09:09:21 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 10:09:21 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] disabled hyperlinks References: <197101c94275$fec4ffa0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <491789B7.8203.6D2B36F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <19f401c9427d$265d3e40$2f8601c7@SusanOne> The links don't work, I think. Thanks for the list -- I appreciate your help. Susan H. > Doesn't create links, or you can't click on a link? > > There are a number of settings in word that can affect this. > > If the first: > Autocorrect - Autoformat and > Autocorrect - Autoformat As You Type > - Internet and Network Paths with hyperlinks > > If the second: > Tools - Options - Edit - Use Ctrl + Click to follow hyperlink > or > Tools - Options - View - Show Field Codes > > > Alternatively it may be this problem: > > kbprb KB823301 - Hyperlinks Do Not Work in Outlook Express or in Word > > SYMPTOMS > In Microsoft Outlook Express and in Microsoft Word, hyperlinks appear in > underlined blue > text, but when you click a hyperlink, nothing may occur. > > RESOLUTION > To resolve this problem, follow these steps: > 1. Click Start, click Run, type the following command in the Run dialog > box, and then > click OK: regsvr32 urlmon.dll > > 2. Repeat step 1 for each of the following commands: > > regsvr32 mshtml.dll > regsvr32 shdocvw.dll > regsvr32 browseui.dll > regsvr32 msjava.dll > > > > > On 9 Nov 2008 at 9:18, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> A reader complains that Word hyperlinks don't work for any of his client >> systems who are on Windows Server 2003. I'm going to take a look at the >> Help >> files and kb, and it might be easy to find, but if you know of a setting >> that will disable hyperlinks, please let me know. >> >> Thanks! >> Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Mon Nov 10 03:03:53 2008 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:03:53 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] disabled hyperlinks In-Reply-To: <19f401c9427d$265d3e40$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: I had this problem here a couple of weeks ago: When users created hyperlinks they worked fine, until they emailed the document the links were in, and then they got corrupted... Get them to open Word, Tools, Options, Generaal, Web Options, Files, and untick "Update Links on Save". Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:09 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] disabled hyperlinks The links don't work, I think. Thanks for the list -- I appreciate your help. Susan H. > Doesn't create links, or you can't click on a link? > > There are a number of settings in word that can affect this. > > If the first: > Autocorrect - Autoformat and > Autocorrect - Autoformat As You Type > - Internet and Network Paths with hyperlinks > > If the second: > Tools - Options - Edit - Use Ctrl + Click to follow hyperlink or Tools > - Options - View - Show Field Codes > > > Alternatively it may be this problem: > > kbprb KB823301 - Hyperlinks Do Not Work in Outlook Express or in Word > > SYMPTOMS > In Microsoft Outlook Express and in Microsoft Word, hyperlinks appear > in underlined blue text, but when you click a hyperlink, nothing may > occur. > > RESOLUTION > To resolve this problem, follow these steps: > 1. Click Start, click Run, type the following command in the Run > dialog box, and then click OK: regsvr32 urlmon.dll > > 2. Repeat step 1 for each of the following commands: > > regsvr32 mshtml.dll > regsvr32 shdocvw.dll > regsvr32 browseui.dll > regsvr32 msjava.dll > > > > > On 9 Nov 2008 at 9:18, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> A reader complains that Word hyperlinks don't work for any of his >> client systems who are on Windows Server 2003. I'm going to take a >> look at the Help files and kb, and it might be easy to find, but if >> you know of a setting that will disable hyperlinks, please let me >> know. >> >> Thanks! >> Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Nov 10 11:57:01 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:57:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint master slide Message-ID: <1d7801c9435d$bd30eed0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I made changes to the master slide and as expected, PP made the changes throughout the presentation -- except for one. I changed the color of an AutoShape, but doing so on the master slide didn't update the same autoshape for the presentation. I can't seem to find an "apply to all" option -- any help? Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Nov 10 12:04:02 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:04:02 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: PowerPoint master slide Message-ID: <1d8e01c9435e$b80175a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Another one -- this is peculiar -- I deleted the Date placeholder and moved the footer on the Slide Master, but it didn't update the slides. This is odd -- the slides already exist, but isn't that the whold point of the master? Susan H. >I made changes to the master slide and as expected, PP made the changes >throughout the presentation -- except for one. I changed the color of an >AutoShape, but doing so on the master slide didn't update the same >autoshape for the presentation. I can't seem to find an "apply to all" >option -- any help? > > Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Nov 10 12:09:23 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:09:23 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: PowerPoint master slide Message-ID: <1d9f01c9435f$78cec260$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Nevermind. Susan H. > Another one -- this is peculiar -- I deleted the Date placeholder and > moved the footer on the Slide Master, but it didn't update the slides. > This is odd -- the slides already exist, but isn't that the whold point of > the master? > > Susan H. > > >>I made changes to the master slide and as expected, PP made the changes >>throughout the presentation -- except for one. I changed the color of an >>AutoShape, but doing so on the master slide didn't update the same >>autoshape for the presentation. I can't seem to find an "apply to all" >>option -- any help? >> >> Susan H. > From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Nov 11 09:34:40 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:34:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs Message-ID: <28e201c94413$12f233a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Anybody have any experience with Google.docs -- can you recommend or criticize? Susan H. From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Nov 11 11:35:57 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:35:57 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs Message-ID: Hi Susan We did play with it. It seems to function OK. However, we have no clients using it which is a bit surprising as the price is right. /gustav >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 11-11-2008 16:34 >>> Anybody have any experience with Google.docs -- can you recommend or criticize? Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Nov 11 11:36:26 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:36:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs References: Message-ID: <299b01c94424$2fa9fa30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Isn't it free? It looks interesting to me too and seems like it would be a great alternative for smaller businesses. Susan H. > Hi Susan > > We did play with it. It seems to function OK. > However, we have no clients using it which is a bit surprising as the > price is right. > > /gustav > >>>> ssharkins at gmail.com 11-11-2008 16:34 >>> > Anybody have any experience with Google.docs -- can you recommend or > criticize? > > Susan H. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Nov 11 11:46:16 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:46:16 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs Message-ID: Hi Susan Yes and yes. /gustav >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 11-11-2008 18:36 >>> Isn't it free? It looks interesting to me too and seems like it would be a great alternative for smaller businesses. Susan H. > Hi Susan > > We did play with it. It seems to function OK. > However, we have no clients using it which is a bit surprising as the > price is right. > > /gustav > >>>> ssharkins at gmail.com 11-11-2008 16:34 >>> > Anybody have any experience with Google.docs -- can you recommend or > criticize? > > Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Nov 11 11:54:16 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:54:16 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Searching newsgroups and user groups Message-ID: <29ad01c94426$887a9230$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I must be getting old -- I swear I can remember when you could filter a google search to newsgroups and the such, but now I can find no such option. Is it gone? Susan H. From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Tue Nov 11 12:09:59 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:09:59 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah if you want your data on Google server which a lot of people don't. MS will be offering something similar soon as they face the same problem Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock [Gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: 11 November 2008 17:46 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google.docs Hi Susan Yes and yes. /gustav >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 11-11-2008 18:36 >>> Isn't it free? It looks interesting to me too and seems like it would be a great alternative for smaller businesses. Susan H. > Hi Susan > > We did play with it. It seems to function OK. > However, we have no clients using it which is a bit surprising as the > price is right. > > /gustav > >>>> ssharkins at gmail.com 11-11-2008 16:34 >>> > Anybody have any experience with Google.docs -- can you recommend or > criticize? > > Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Nov 11 13:08:13 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:08:13 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs References: Message-ID: <2a0101c94430$ee031c30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> > Yeah if you want your data on Google server which a lot of people don't. =======I was wondering about security -- is it reasonably good? Susan H. From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Tue Nov 11 13:44:04 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:44:04 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs In-Reply-To: <2a0101c94430$ee031c30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: , <2a0101c94430$ee031c30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: Its Google I assume it is excellent. But would you want your company accounts or Personnel letters held on someone else's server I know I would not. In fact both Google and MS have offered us free services for all staff and students and we turned it down. We don't want any of our stuff on anyone's servers but our own. That way we are in total control of everything. Something goes wrong then we have only ourselves to blame. I don't like Google docs ands its a bit like word version -9 it more like notepad on the web than a Word Processor. I need a word processor. Other people find it wonderful so its simply different tools for differnt people. I live in a Microsoft world and thats it really. Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at gmail.com] Sent: 11 November 2008 19:08 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google.docs > Yeah if you want your data on Google server which a lot of people don't. =======I was wondering about security -- is it reasonably good? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Nov 11 13:51:23 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:51:23 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs References: , <2a0101c94430$ee031c30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <2a5e01c94436$e1784c50$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I agree -- no, you wouldn't want sensitive data on it. But I can see small businesses using it -- upload a document that needs to see several pairs of eyes -- much simpler than E-mailing it back and forth. Susan H. > Its Google I assume it is excellent. But would you want your company > accounts or Personnel letters held on someone else's server I know I would > not. In fact both Google and MS have offered us free services for all > staff and students and we turned it down. We don't want any of our stuff > on anyone's servers but our own. That way we are in total control of > everything. Something goes wrong then we have only ourselves to blame. > > I don't like Google docs ands its a bit like word version -9 it more like > notepad on the web than a Word Processor. I need a word processor. Other > people find it wonderful so its simply different tools for differnt > people. I live in a Microsoft world and thats it really. > > Martin > > > Martin WP Reid > Information Services > Queen's University > Riddel Hall > 185 Stranmillis Road > Belfast > BT9 5EE > Tel : 02890974465 > Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk > ________________________________________ > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > [ssharkins at gmail.com] > Sent: 11 November 2008 19:08 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google.docs > >> Yeah if you want your data on Google server which a lot of people don't. > > =======I was wondering about security -- is it reasonably good? > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Tue Nov 11 13:54:51 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs In-Reply-To: <2a5e01c94436$e1784c50$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: , <2a0101c94430$ee031c30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> , <2a5e01c94436$e1784c50$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: If you have a windows 2003 server just use WSS. Its free and has a bigger feature set. Also your in charge of the security. You also have Microsoft Groove which again put you in control either on MS Servers or you own. Also have Windows live. Free as well and very soon you are going to have Microsoft Office on line for about $15 a month. Plus full SharePoint and SQL Server DBs hosted in MS data Centres. Same issues etc but the choice is growing. I can save a Word doc directly in Office Live from Word itself. I don't need to go to a web site and start up some crappy text editor. There's lots of choices. The only thing I would say Google docs has is that it is free. other people love it. Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at gmail.com] Sent: 11 November 2008 19:51 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google.docs I agree -- no, you wouldn't want sensitive data on it. But I can see small businesses using it -- upload a document that needs to see several pairs of eyes -- much simpler than E-mailing it back and forth. Susan H. > Its Google I assume it is excellent. But would you want your company > accounts or Personnel letters held on someone else's server I know I would > not. In fact both Google and MS have offered us free services for all > staff and students and we turned it down. We don't want any of our stuff > on anyone's servers but our own. That way we are in total control of > everything. Something goes wrong then we have only ourselves to blame. > > I don't like Google docs ands its a bit like word version -9 it more like > notepad on the web than a Word Processor. I need a word processor. Other > people find it wonderful so its simply different tools for differnt > people. I live in a Microsoft world and thats it really. > > Martin > > > Martin WP Reid > Information Services > Queen's University > Riddel Hall > 185 Stranmillis Road > Belfast > BT9 5EE > Tel : 02890974465 > Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk > ________________________________________ > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > [ssharkins at gmail.com] > Sent: 11 November 2008 19:08 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google.docs > >> Yeah if you want your data on Google server which a lot of people don't. > > =======I was wondering about security -- is it reasonably good? > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Tue Nov 11 14:03:34 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:03:34 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google.docs In-Reply-To: References: , <2a0101c94430$ee031c30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> , <2a5e01c94436$e1784c50$2f8601c7@SusanOne>, Message-ID: Just opened docs and havnt been there for a while. Crappy text editor was a little to much. (<: Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid [mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk] Sent: 11 November 2008 19:54 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google.docs If you have a windows 2003 server just use WSS. Its free and has a bigger feature set. Also your in charge of the security. You also have Microsoft Groove which again put you in control either on MS Servers or you own. Also have Windows live. Free as well and very soon you are going to have Microsoft Office on line for about $15 a month. Plus full SharePoint and SQL Server DBs hosted in MS data Centres. Same issues etc but the choice is growing. I can save a Word doc directly in Office Live from Word itself. I don't need to go to a web site and start up some crappy text editor. There's lots of choices. The only thing I would say Google docs has is that it is free. other people love it. Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at gmail.com] Sent: 11 November 2008 19:51 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google.docs I agree -- no, you wouldn't want sensitive data on it. But I can see small businesses using it -- upload a document that needs to see several pairs of eyes -- much simpler than E-mailing it back and forth. Susan H. > Its Google I assume it is excellent. But would you want your company > accounts or Personnel letters held on someone else's server I know I would > not. In fact both Google and MS have offered us free services for all > staff and students and we turned it down. We don't want any of our stuff > on anyone's servers but our own. That way we are in total control of > everything. Something goes wrong then we have only ourselves to blame. > > I don't like Google docs ands its a bit like word version -9 it more like > notepad on the web than a Word Processor. I need a word processor. Other > people find it wonderful so its simply different tools for differnt > people. I live in a Microsoft world and thats it really. > > Martin > > > Martin WP Reid > Information Services > Queen's University > Riddel Hall > 185 Stranmillis Road > Belfast > BT9 5EE > Tel : 02890974465 > Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk > ________________________________________ > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > [ssharkins at gmail.com] > Sent: 11 November 2008 19:08 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google.docs > >> Yeah if you want your data on Google server which a lot of people don't. > > =======I was wondering about security -- is it reasonably good? > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Wed Nov 12 05:50:19 2008 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:50:19 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Searching newsgroups and user groups In-Reply-To: <29ad01c94426$887a9230$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: I use GGSearch from http://www.frysianfools.com/ggsearch/. I find it very handy and usefull. Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Susan Harkins Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. November 2008 18:54 An: DBA Tech List Betreff: [dba-Tech] Searching newsgroups and user groups I must be getting old -- I swear I can remember when you could filter a google search to newsgroups and the such, but now I can find no such option. Is it gone? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 12 12:20:08 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:20:08 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? Message-ID: <6E391D5BB3A9414F942A6A985EFA967B@HAL9005> I just moved a computer - opened it and blew the dust out - and now it won't start. I get three beeps from one of the Chiclets on the mother board and then nothing. Reseated all the connectors. HD is turning. CD loads. It's a Dell Dimension 4400, 1.6GHz P4, about 4 years old. Motherboard problem? TIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Nov 12 12:24:41 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:24:41 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? References: <6E391D5BB3A9414F942A6A985EFA967B@HAL9005> Message-ID: <047e01c944f3$ef2f3580$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Put the dust back! Susan H. >I just moved a computer - opened it and blew the dust out - and now it >won't > start. I get three beeps from one of the Chiclets on the mother board and > then nothing. Reseated all the connectors. HD is turning. CD loads. > It's > a Dell Dimension 4400, 1.6GHz P4, about 4 years old. Motherboard problem? From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 12 12:30:47 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:30:47 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? In-Reply-To: <6E391D5BB3A9414F942A6A985EFA967B@HAL9005> References: <6E391D5BB3A9414F942A6A985EFA967B@HAL9005> Message-ID: <6687E0DC9D9042838C316658532669D7@HAL9005> Never mind I found it. Had to reseat the RAM card. Googled 'computer startup three beeps' and got links right to the problem. Is there anything that ISN'T on the web? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:20 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? I just moved a computer - opened it and blew the dust out - and now it won't start. I get three beeps from one of the Chiclets on the mother board and then nothing. Reseated all the connectors. HD is turning. CD loads. It's a Dell Dimension 4400, 1.6GHz P4, about 4 years old. Motherboard problem? TIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Nov 12 12:32:12 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:32:12 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? In-Reply-To: <047e01c944f3$ef2f3580$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <501F860A1CC641B29EC81B13242CE63E@MINSTER> ROTFLMAO Andy Lacey -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: 12 November 2008 18:25 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? Put the dust back! Susan H. >I just moved a computer - opened it and blew the dust out - and now it >won't > start. I get three beeps from one of the Chiclets on the mother board and > then nothing. Reseated all the connectors. HD is turning. CD loads. > It's > a Dell Dimension 4400, 1.6GHz P4, about 4 years old. Motherboard problem? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Wed Nov 12 12:33:19 2008 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:33:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? References: <6E391D5BB3A9414F942A6A985EFA967B@HAL9005> Message-ID: <982331.92511.qm@web65406.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> When you reseated all othe connectors did you re-seat the ram sticks and if it has a stand alone video card, try reseating that.? We've seen a handful of motherboards go bad on 4400's.? Of course they were out of warranty. ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: List Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:20:08 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? I just moved a computer - opened it and blew the dust out - and now it won't start.? I get three beeps from one of the Chiclets on the mother board and then nothing.? Reseated all the connectors. HD is turning.? CD loads.? It's a Dell Dimension 4400, 1.6GHz P4, about 4 years old. Motherboard problem? ??? TIA, ??? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 12 12:34:01 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:34:01 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? In-Reply-To: <047e01c944f3$ef2f3580$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <6E391D5BB3A9414F942A6A985EFA967B@HAL9005> <047e01c944f3$ef2f3580$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <34747789FDD4421180E820AB3D6451C1@HAL9005> Well, the Good Book tells us that we come from dust and return to dust. I looked in there and thought well, there's somebody in there either comin' or goin'. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? Put the dust back! Susan H. >I just moved a computer - opened it and blew the dust out - and now it >won't start. I get three beeps from one of the Chiclets on the mother >board and then nothing. Reseated all the connectors. HD is turning. >CD loads. > It's > a Dell Dimension 4400, 1.6GHz P4, about 4 years old. Motherboard problem? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Nov 12 12:38:49 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:38:49 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead Computer? In-Reply-To: <6E391D5BB3A9414F942A6A985EFA967B@HAL9005> References: <6E391D5BB3A9414F942A6A985EFA967B@HAL9005> Message-ID: Nothing on the montor at all? No BIOS info? No "Push F1 to ender setup" I think Video card. It's static season up here in the land of heated indoor air. Did you ground yourself before you touched any thing? I'd start by disconnecting things. And did you reseat the RAM? That is worth a try. Or even the Ram. I have had bad ram cause problems like that. Is the fan on the CPU turning? But I would try to disconnect everything and pull any expansion cards from it and see if it still beeps three times. Then if that seems to work start plugging things back in one at a time. And remember just yesterday you were lamenting not needing a new computer ;-) GK On 11/12/08, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > I just moved a computer - opened it and blew the dust out - and now it won't > start. I get three beeps from one of the Chiclets on the mother board and > then nothing. Reseated all the connectors. HD is turning. CD loads. It's > a Dell Dimension 4400, 1.6GHz P4, about 4 years old. Motherboard problem? > > > TIA, > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 12 16:20:00 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:20:00 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? Message-ID: <51510E8C23384790B7ACD68D48B1EC57@HAL9005> Here's a web site of all the words in the English language. I think. http://common-lisp.net/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=cl-irc&path=%2Ftrunk%2 Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1 Is there an easy way to count them? Rocky From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 12 16:26:08 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:26:08 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? In-Reply-To: <51510E8C23384790B7ACD68D48B1EC57@HAL9005> References: <51510E8C23384790B7ACD68D48B1EC57@HAL9005> Message-ID: <2847B3443138401FBBB09DADD8BF0875@HAL9005> Got it. 235882 - copied and pasted into a table Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:20 PM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? Here's a web site of all the words in the English language. I think. http://common-lisp.net/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=cl-irc&path=%2Ftrunk%2 Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1 Is there an easy way to count them? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Nov 12 17:32:19 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:32:19 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? In-Reply-To: <2847B3443138401FBBB09DADD8BF0875@HAL9005> References: <51510E8C23384790B7ACD68D48B1EC57@HAL9005>, <2847B3443138401FBBB09DADD8BF0875@HAL9005> Message-ID: <491BF423.31503.1F6EF12@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Not all the words! I just noticed it doesn't contain the word "gullible" -- Stuart On 12 Nov 2008 at 14:26, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access wrote: > Got it. 235882 - copied and pasted into a table > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > Beach Access Software > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:20 PM > To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? > > Here's a web site of all the words in the English language. I think. > > http://common-lisp.net/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=cl-irc&path=%2Ftrunk%2 > Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1 > 2Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1> > > > > Is there an easy way to count them? > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 12 17:54:02 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:54:02 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? In-Reply-To: <491BF423.31503.1F6EF12@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <51510E8C23384790B7ACD68D48B1EC57@HAL9005>, <2847B3443138401FBBB09DADD8BF0875@HAL9005> <491BF423.31503.1F6EF12@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Mine do. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:32 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How many words? Not all the words! I just noticed it doesn't contain the word "gullible" -- Stuart On 12 Nov 2008 at 14:26, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access wrote: > Got it. 235882 - copied and pasted into a table > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin at Beach Access Software > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:20 PM > To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? > > Here's a web site of all the words in the English language. I think. > > http://common-lisp.net/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=cl-irc&path=%2Ft > runk%2 > Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1 > trunk% > 2Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1> > > > > Is there an easy way to count them? > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Nov 12 18:46:00 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:46:00 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? In-Reply-To: References: <51510E8C23384790B7ACD68D48B1EC57@HAL9005>, <491BF423.31503.1F6EF12@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, Message-ID: <491C0568.28935.23A6523@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> You checked? Remind me again what "gullible" means! On 12 Nov 2008 at 15:54, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access wrote: > Mine do. > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:32 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How many words? > > Not all the words! > > I just noticed it doesn't contain the word "gullible" > > -- > Stuart > > On 12 Nov 2008 at 14:26, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access wrote: > > > Got it. 235882 - copied and pasted into a table > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > > Smolin at Beach Access Software > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:20 PM > > To: 'Off Topic'; List > > Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? > > > > Here's a web site of all the words in the English language. I think. > > > > http://common-lisp.net/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=cl-irc&path=%2Ft > > runk%2 > > Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1 > > > trunk% > > 2Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1> > > > > > > > > Is there an easy way to count them? > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 12 19:06:54 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:06:54 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? In-Reply-To: <491C0568.28935.23A6523@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <51510E8C23384790B7ACD68D48B1EC57@HAL9005>, <491BF423.31503.1F6EF12@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <491C0568.28935.23A6523@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <3DEFF5C1044149A0A8821829202576E0@HAL9005> D'oh! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:46 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How many words? You checked? Remind me again what "gullible" means! On 12 Nov 2008 at 15:54, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access wrote: > Mine do. > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart > McLachlan > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:32 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How many words? > > Not all the words! > > I just noticed it doesn't contain the word "gullible" > > -- > Stuart > > On 12 Nov 2008 at 14:26, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access wrote: > > > Got it. 235882 - copied and pasted into a table > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > > Smolin at Beach Access Software > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:20 PM > > To: 'Off Topic'; List > > Subject: [dba-Tech] How many words? > > > > Here's a web site of all the words in the English language. I think. > > > > http://common-lisp.net/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=cl-irc&path=%2 > > Ft > > runk%2 > > Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1 > > > 2F > > trunk% > > 2Fexample%2Fwords&sc=1> > > > > > > > > Is there an easy way to count them? > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Nov 13 09:21:41 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:21:41 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? Message-ID: <131324C1374B46DE9A215964083E2D33@HAL9005> A 320GB HD @ 5200RPM or a 250GB HD @ 7200RPM? Do the rpms make a huge difference in data transfer? Rocky From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Nov 13 09:52:20 2008 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:52:20 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? In-Reply-To: <131324C1374B46DE9A215964083E2D33@HAL9005> Message-ID: Short answer, yes they do. You'll notice the difference between the two when you're using them. I'd go for the 250 myself, unless you need those extra 70gb... Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:22 PM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? A 320GB HD @ 5200RPM or a 250GB HD @ 7200RPM? Do the rpms make a huge difference in data transfer? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From john at winhaven.net Thu Nov 13 10:20:23 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:20:23 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? In-Reply-To: <131324C1374B46DE9A215964083E2D33@HAL9005> References: <131324C1374B46DE9A215964083E2D33@HAL9005> Message-ID: <018c01c945ab$bacf6d10$306e4730$@net> Hi Rocky, Depends, generally the higher rotation speed would be faster but it depends on the age of the drives (which you probably aren't going to find out until you have them in hand). Higher burst speeds, disk buffers and wider bandwidth can make some difference in the overall performance. Hard drives are somewhat difficult to test because the test situation doesn't reflect typical usage (which of course is dependent on you). The tests are kind of "brute force" for the most part and hard drives have some intelligence built into their subsystems which adapt to various scenarios. Long story short - I'd buy the faster RPM because its more than likely the newer technology of the two. If it's just for backup storage I wouldn't get either one. I'd get the biggest external USB drive possible (within my budget) and schedule backups for off hours so the speed wouldn't matter :o) John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:22 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? A 320GB HD @ 5200RPM or a 250GB HD @ 7200RPM? Do the rpms make a huge difference in data transfer? From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Nov 13 10:28:18 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:28:18 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? In-Reply-To: <018c01c945ab$bacf6d10$306e4730$@net> References: <131324C1374B46DE9A215964083E2D33@HAL9005> <018c01c945ab$bacf6d10$306e4730$@net> Message-ID: I've found that for Access work in particular rotation speed makes a big difference. As you say there are other factors such as buffering that factor into it too, but in most cases the faster rotation will translate to faster transfer rate and faster seek times. As files get fragmented the faster seek time will really make a difference. In my opinion. I had a 10,000 rpm SCSI drive in one of my older systems - until it croaked - and that baby screamed when doing Access work. I really miss that. GK On 11/13/08, John Bartow wrote: > Hi Rocky, > Depends, generally the higher rotation speed would be faster but it depends > on the age of the drives (which you probably aren't going to find out until > you have them in hand). Higher burst speeds, disk buffers and wider > bandwidth can make some difference in the overall performance. Hard drives > are somewhat difficult to test because the test situation doesn't reflect > typical usage (which of course is dependent on you). The tests are kind of > "brute force" for the most part and hard drives have some intelligence built > into their subsystems which adapt to various scenarios. > > Long story short - I'd buy the faster RPM because its more than likely the > newer technology of the two. If it's just for backup storage I wouldn't get > either one. I'd get the biggest external USB drive possible (within my > budget) and schedule backups for off hours so the speed wouldn't matter :o) > > John B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > Beach Access Software > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:22 AM > To: List; 'Off Topic' > Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? > > A 320GB HD @ 5200RPM or > a 250GB HD @ 7200RPM? > > Do the rpms make a huge difference in data transfer? > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Nov 13 10:41:54 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:41:54 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? In-Reply-To: References: <131324C1374B46DE9A215964083E2D33@HAL9005> Message-ID: <7C7C03ABB25F470B9E204DADAA88CE38@HAL9005> And the extra 70, or 270, if you really need it could come from an extra external HD I suppose. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:52 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What's Better? Short answer, yes they do. You'll notice the difference between the two when you're using them. I'd go for the 250 myself, unless you need those extra 70gb... Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:22 PM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? A 320GB HD @ 5200RPM or a 250GB HD @ 7200RPM? Do the rpms make a huge difference in data transfer? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Nov 13 10:45:19 2008 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:45:19 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? In-Reply-To: <7C7C03ABB25F470B9E204DADAA88CE38@HAL9005> Message-ID: Absolutely. Although the external hard drive I've got is only a 5400rpm, and you can really tell. Admittedly it's only 40gb (it's a laptop drive with a USB adaprot on the box) and a few years old, but it was slow even then. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:42 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What's Better? And the extra 70, or 270, if you really need it could come from an extra external HD I suppose. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:52 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What's Better? Short answer, yes they do. You'll notice the difference between the two when you're using them. I'd go for the 250 myself, unless you need those extra 70gb... Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:22 PM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? A 320GB HD @ 5200RPM or a 250GB HD @ 7200RPM? Do the rpms make a huge difference in data transfer? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Nov 13 10:50:16 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:50:16 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? In-Reply-To: <018c01c945ab$bacf6d10$306e4730$@net> References: <131324C1374B46DE9A215964083E2D33@HAL9005> <018c01c945ab$bacf6d10$306e4730$@net> Message-ID: Got it. Gracias. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:20 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What's Better? Hi Rocky, Depends, generally the higher rotation speed would be faster but it depends on the age of the drives (which you probably aren't going to find out until you have them in hand). Higher burst speeds, disk buffers and wider bandwidth can make some difference in the overall performance. Hard drives are somewhat difficult to test because the test situation doesn't reflect typical usage (which of course is dependent on you). The tests are kind of "brute force" for the most part and hard drives have some intelligence built into their subsystems which adapt to various scenarios. Long story short - I'd buy the faster RPM because its more than likely the newer technology of the two. If it's just for backup storage I wouldn't get either one. I'd get the biggest external USB drive possible (within my budget) and schedule backups for off hours so the speed wouldn't matter :o) John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:22 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? A 320GB HD @ 5200RPM or a 250GB HD @ 7200RPM? Do the rpms make a huge difference in data transfer? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Nov 13 10:55:42 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:55:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint behavior -- text formats change when using Promote Message-ID: <07b101c945b0$add444a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> When I click Promote to move text to a new slide, PowerPoint changes the font formats for the text that's left in place. The body of the message takes on the title formats. This is the oddest behavior -- can someone explain it and tell me how to avoid it? Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Nov 13 11:27:35 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:27:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nevermind, kind of... (Fw: PowerPoint behavior -- text formats change when using Promote) Message-ID: <082f01c945b5$1f64b2e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I think I know why it happened, but I don't understand the behavior. I copied the text from a Word document and I guess the action of promoting deleting codes, but I don't know why that would happen. I can speculate, but seems kind of... problematic at best. I formatted the text in PP before promoting and it works fine. Susan H. > When I click Promote to move text to a new slide, PowerPoint changes the > font formats for the text that's left in place. The body of the message > takes on the title formats. This is the oddest behavior -- can someone > explain it and tell me how to avoid it? > > Susan H. From john at winhaven.net Thu Nov 13 15:07:18 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:07:18 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nevermind, kind of... (Fw: PowerPoint behavior -- text formats change when using Promote) In-Reply-To: <082f01c945b5$1f64b2e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <082f01c945b5$1f64b2e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <012301c945d3$d01f54a0$705dfde0$@net> Word and Powerpoint interact (they have special menu items for exchanging info) so if you copy and pasted formatted test from one to the other those codes would carry over. Use "Paste Special" and choose unformatted text and I'd guess the problem doesn't show up at all. John B. From bheid at sc.rr.com Thu Nov 13 16:14:15 2008 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:14:15 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] What's Better? In-Reply-To: References: <131324C1374B46DE9A215964083E2D33@HAL9005> <018c01c945ab$bacf6d10$306e4730$@net> Message-ID: <00b801c945dd$2a8a85a0$7f9f90e0$@rr.com> I agree that faster RPMs generally mean faster access. In my experience, the 5400 RPM drives are slower (usually in laptops) compared to a comparable 7200 RMP drive (in most desktops). I am in the process of gathering the parts for a new build and I just got the WD Velociraptor 10,000 RPM drive because it is considered one of the fastest non-SCSI drives out there. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:28 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What's Better? I've found that for Access work in particular rotation speed makes a big difference. As you say there are other factors such as buffering that factor into it too, but in most cases the faster rotation will translate to faster transfer rate and faster seek times. As files get fragmented the faster seek time will really make a difference. In my opinion. I had a 10,000 rpm SCSI drive in one of my older systems - until it croaked - and that baby screamed when doing Access work. I really miss that. GK From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Nov 13 16:32:42 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:32:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Cisco Network Engineer Message-ID: <001f01c945df$bf02b8e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> > > > Cisco 6.0 knowledge a must > 75 user environment > Current or recent experience setting up a call manager environment > Independent individual > > East Bay or Colusa, CA areas > > If you know of anyone, send me a resume privately > > Thanks! > Susan H. From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Nov 20 10:11:46 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:11:46 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Test Message-ID: Check one two. Syllabus Syllabus -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Nov 20 10:15:30 2008 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:15:30 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Receiving you loud and clear Syllabus, you are cleared for take-off. Over. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:12 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Test Check one two. Syllabus Syllabus -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Nov 20 10:26:05 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:26:05 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks! GK On 11/20/08, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > Receiving you loud and clear Syllabus, you are cleared for take-off. > Over. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:12 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Test > > Check one two. Syllabus Syllabus > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of > which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission > in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Nov 20 13:15:43 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:15:43 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] emailing from a DOD based program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06A687F76E1640FE8C1AE2FD18057C13@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All: Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command prompt and can even run some command apps but little more. MTIA Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Nov 20 15:03:12 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:03:12 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] API sound function Message-ID: <09a401c94b53$68f75c20$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Does sndPlaySound32 play only wav files? Is there an API that's more versatile and can handle other audio files? Susan H. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Nov 20 15:20:24 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:20:24 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] emailing from a DOD based program In-Reply-To: <06A687F76E1640FE8C1AE2FD18057C13@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , , <06A687F76E1640FE8C1AE2FD18057C13@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <49266138.10906.24AC0FF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> If you can run a command app, you should be able to do it with Blat. http://sourceforge.net/projects/blat Blat - A Win32 command line SMTP mailer. Use it to automatically eMail logs, the contents of a html FORM, or whatever else you need to send. On 20 Nov 2008 at 11:15, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi All: > > Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running > within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command prompt > and can even run some command apps but little more. > > MTIA > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Nov 20 16:53:55 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:53:55 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] emailing from a DOD based program In-Reply-To: <49266138.10906.24AC0FF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <06A687F76E1640FE8C1AE2FD18057C13@creativesystemdesigns.com> <49266138.10906.24AC0FF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4901F2E1338E41BEAF4A29B34EBCC323@creativesystemdesigns.com> Thank you Stewart: I had already downloaded BLAT as the internet seemed to suggest your recommendation but was very much looking forward to a confirmation from someone who has actually used the product... like yourself. This is a real rush... the client is in some sort of panic... which is unusual for this individual but someone has stirred her up. It has to be finished by tonight. Would you by any chance that your would have a 'rough' sample of just what the DOS portion of the code would look like considering that BLAT will be posting directly to the ISP mail server as port 25 is of course blocked. This would just expedite the process... MTIA Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:20 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] emailing from a DOD based program If you can run a command app, you should be able to do it with Blat. http://sourceforge.net/projects/blat Blat - A Win32 command line SMTP mailer. Use it to automatically eMail logs, the contents of a html FORM, or whatever else you need to send. On 20 Nov 2008 at 11:15, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi All: > > Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running > within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command prompt > and can even run some command apps but little more. > > MTIA > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Nov 20 19:59:55 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:59:55 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] emailing from a DOD based program In-Reply-To: <4901F2E1338E41BEAF4A29B34EBCC323@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <49266138.10906.24AC0FF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <4901F2E1338E41BEAF4A29B34EBCC323@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4926A2BB.26297.E24AF4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I presume you mean the Port 25 can only access the ISP's SMTP server, rather than the port being totally *blocked*. About the simplest would be: BLAT - -to accessd at shaw.ca -f stuart at lexacorp.com.pg -subject "Test Message" -body "This is a test message from Stuart to Jim" -server smtp.global.net.pg Note the initial "-" that's in lieu of "-" since do not have a text file containing the message body. Replace the "smtp.global.net.pg" with the ISPs mail server. -- Stuart On 20 Nov 2008 at 14:53, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Thank you Stewart: > > I had already downloaded BLAT as the internet seemed to suggest your > recommendation but was very much looking forward to a confirmation from > someone who has actually used the product... like yourself. > > This is a real rush... the client is in some sort of panic... which is > unusual for this individual but someone has stirred her up. It has to be > finished by tonight. > > Would you by any chance that your would have a 'rough' sample of just what > the DOS portion of the code would look like considering that BLAT will be > posting directly to the ISP mail server as port 25 is of course blocked. > This would just expedite the process... > > MTIA > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:20 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] emailing from a DOD based program > > If you can run a command app, you should be able to do it with Blat. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/blat > > Blat - A Win32 command line SMTP mailer. Use it to automatically > eMail logs, the > contents of a html FORM, or whatever else you need to send. > > On 20 Nov 2008 at 11:15, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Hi All: > > > > Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running > > within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command > prompt > > and can even run some command apps but little more. > > > > MTIA > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Nov 20 21:53:25 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:53:25 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] emailing from a DOD based program In-Reply-To: <4926A2BB.26297.E24AF4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <49266138.10906.24AC0FF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4901F2E1338E41BEAF4A29B34EBCC323@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4926A2BB.26297.E24AF4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <058181080C794340BC48CAE13AEF1F08@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Stuart: Thank you muchly... I will work on this and get it running by the weekend but there may be some question for you not yet. ;-) Thanks again. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:00 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] emailing from a DOD based program I presume you mean the Port 25 can only access the ISP's SMTP server, rather than the port being totally *blocked*. About the simplest would be: BLAT - -to accessd at shaw.ca -f stuart at lexacorp.com.pg -subject "Test Message" -body "This is a test message from Stuart to Jim" -server smtp.global.net.pg Note the initial "-" that's in lieu of "-" since do not have a text file containing the message body. Replace the "smtp.global.net.pg" with the ISPs mail server. -- Stuart On 20 Nov 2008 at 14:53, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Thank you Stewart: > > I had already downloaded BLAT as the internet seemed to suggest your > recommendation but was very much looking forward to a confirmation from > someone who has actually used the product... like yourself. > > This is a real rush... the client is in some sort of panic... which is > unusual for this individual but someone has stirred her up. It has to be > finished by tonight. > > Would you by any chance that your would have a 'rough' sample of just what > the DOS portion of the code would look like considering that BLAT will be > posting directly to the ISP mail server as port 25 is of course blocked. > This would just expedite the process... > > MTIA > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:20 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] emailing from a DOD based program > > If you can run a command app, you should be able to do it with Blat. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/blat > > Blat - A Win32 command line SMTP mailer. Use it to automatically > eMail logs, the > contents of a html FORM, or whatever else you need to send. > > On 20 Nov 2008 at 11:15, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Hi All: > > > > Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running > > within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command > prompt > > and can even run some command apps but little more. > > > > MTIA > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 09:11:04 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:11:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] API sound function Message-ID: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> After some testing, I've found that sndPlaySound32 only plays wav files. I'm trying to play other sound files from inside Word -- is that possible? Can't find any code that plays anything other than wav files. Susan H. > Does sndPlaySound32 play only wav files? Is there an API that's more > versatile and can handle other audio files? > > Susan H. From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Nov 21 09:28:49 2008 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:28:49 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deploying adm template for Group Policy. Message-ID: I'm trying to import an ADM file into my group policy, but for the life of me, I can't work out how to do it... I tried in my normal account, and then with a Domain Admin account, and I just can't see any option to import anything. I've tried searching the web, and it's telling me to right click on "Administrative Templates", but I can't find that either in Group Policy Management, or in Users and Computers. Am I going blind, or just missing something really obvious? If it makes any difference, it's a Windows 2003 Active Directory domain. Jon Jon Tydda MCP IT Support Analyst Lonza Biologics PLC 228 Bath Road Slough Berkshire SL1 4DX UK Registered Number: 2742471 Tel: +44 (0) 1753 777077 Fax: +44 (0) 1753 777001 mailto:jon.tydda at lonza.com http://www.lonza.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Fri Nov 21 09:37:32 2008 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:37:32 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] API sound function References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <575B1DEE8DE54331BF2CA0EBAA361119@s1800> I play mp3 from Access - oh, well, that's Access97 - I need to dig into the code to find out what I'm using for it. will get to it tomorrow Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "DBA Tech List" Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] API sound function > After some testing, I've found that sndPlaySound32 only plays wav files. > I'm > trying to play other sound files from inside Word -- is that possible? > Can't > find any code that plays anything other than wav files. > > Susan H. > >> Does sndPlaySound32 play only wav files? Is there an API that's more >> versatile and can handle other audio files? >> >> Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1803 - Release Date: 21.11.2008 09:37 From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 09:40:58 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:40:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Clicked button event in Word Message-ID: <0c0201c94bef$8de8a1f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I want to use a custom button (probably on the toolbar) to stop a process in Word. Now, I suppose I can use Timer to continually check for the button's clicked state, but is there a more abrupt way -- just when the button's clicked -- STOP whatever VBA processing is going on? A timer seems like a rather clunky way to do it. Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 09:42:56 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:42:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] API sound function References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <575B1DEE8DE54331BF2CA0EBAA361119@s1800> Message-ID: <0c0b01c94bef$d410af60$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Lembit, don't spend any time on this -- I might not even go this route. Just, if someone knows of something off the top of their head, please share it. Susan H. >I play mp3 from Access - oh, well, that's Access97 - > I need to dig into the code to find out what I'm using for it. > > will get to it tomorrow > > >> After some testing, I've found that sndPlaySound32 only plays wav files. >> I'm >> trying to play other sound files from inside Word -- is that possible? >> Can't >> find any code that plays anything other than wav files. >> >> Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 09:54:18 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:54:18 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Need for Timer event in Word Message-ID: <0c4101c94bf1$6ab55500$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I've been asked to provide a generic function in Word that will play a specific sound at intervals. Initially I thought, no big deal, but I was thinking in Access terms. Word has no Timer event, so I'm wondering now how to approach this problem. Any ideas? Susan H. From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Fri Nov 21 09:52:41 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:52:41 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] API sound function In-Reply-To: <0c0b01c94bef$d410af60$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <575B1DEE8DE54331BF2CA0EBAA361119@s1800>, <0c0b01c94bef$d410af60$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: Susan On this page search for MP3 http://www.accessmvp.com/DJSteele/SmartAccess.html Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at gmail.com] Sent: 21 November 2008 15:42 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] API sound function Lembit, don't spend any time on this -- I might not even go this route. Just, if someone knows of something off the top of their head, please share it. Susan H. >I play mp3 from Access - oh, well, that's Access97 - > I need to dig into the code to find out what I'm using for it. > > will get to it tomorrow > > >> After some testing, I've found that sndPlaySound32 only plays wav files. >> I'm >> trying to play other sound files from inside Word -- is that possible? >> Can't >> find any code that plays anything other than wav files. >> >> Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 09:58:08 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:58:08 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] API sound function References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><575B1DEE8DE54331BF2CA0EBAA361119@s1800>, <0c0b01c94bef$d410af60$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <0c4e01c94bf1$f4bd54a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Thanks Martin! Susan H. > Susan > > On this page search for MP3 > > http://www.accessmvp.com/DJSteele/SmartAccess.html > > Martin > > > > Martin WP Reid > Information Services > Queen's University > Riddel Hall > 185 Stranmillis Road > Belfast > BT9 5EE > Tel : 02890974465 > Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk > ________________________________________ > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > [ssharkins at gmail.com] > Sent: 21 November 2008 15:42 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] API sound function > > Lembit, don't spend any time on this -- I might not even go this route. > Just, if someone knows of something off the top of their head, please > share > it. > > Susan H. > > >>I play mp3 from Access - oh, well, that's Access97 - >> I need to dig into the code to find out what I'm using for it. >> >> will get to it tomorrow >> >> >>> After some testing, I've found that sndPlaySound32 only plays wav files. >>> I'm >>> trying to play other sound files from inside Word -- is that possible? >>> Can't >>> find any code that plays anything other than wav files. >>> >>> Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Fri Nov 21 10:04:56 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:04:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint behavior -- text formats change when usingPromote In-Reply-To: <07b101c945b0$add444a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <07b101c945b0$add444a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <4926DC28.7060301@torchlake.com> Hi Susan, I tried to duplicate what you said you did. My experience did not match yours. I got exactly what I expected - the promoted text became the heading on a new slide. No unexpected changes happened to the text remaining on the original slide. The only change I would expect would be a font-size increase to make use of the additional space - if that setting is turned on and if the space change is significant. The setting is under AutoCorrect > AutoFormat as you type > AutoFit body text to placeholder. Is that possibly what's going on? I'm using Office 2003. Tina Susan Harkins wrote: > When I click Promote to move text to a new slide, PowerPoint changes the > font formats for the text that's left in place. The body of the message > takes on the title formats. This is the oddest behavior -- can someone > explain it and tell me how to avoid it? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 10:12:04 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:12:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint behavior -- text formats change whenusingPromote References: <07b101c945b0$add444a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <4926DC28.7060301@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <0c9001c94bf3$e7c085e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I was copying text from Word and I think that was the problem -- but I don't really understand why -- something with unseen/unknown format codes I suspect. Susan H. > Hi Susan, > > I tried to duplicate what you said you did. My experience did not match > yours. I got exactly what I expected - the promoted text became the > heading on a new slide. No unexpected changes happened to the text > remaining on the original slide. The only change I would expect would > be a font-size increase to make use of the additional space - if that > setting is turned on and if the space change is significant. The > setting is under AutoCorrect > AutoFormat as you type > AutoFit body > text to placeholder. Is that possibly what's going on? > > I'm using Office 2003. > > Tina > > Susan Harkins wrote: >> When I click Promote to move text to a new slide, PowerPoint changes the >> font formats for the text that's left in place. The body of the message >> takes on the title formats. This is the oddest behavior -- can someone >> explain it and tell me how to avoid it? >> >> Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Fri Nov 21 10:52:04 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:52:04 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Need for Timer event in Word In-Reply-To: <0c4101c94bf1$6ab55500$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <0c4101c94bf1$6ab55500$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <9B1370830B6D4895BD040C8D0F7380D9@danwaters> Hi Susan, This is a class module for timing events (named clsStopWatch): --------------------------------------------------------------- Private MlngStart As Long Private Declare Function GetTickCount Lib "kernel32" () As Long Public Sub StartTimer() MlngStart = GetTickCount End Sub Public Function EndTimer() As Long EndTimer = (GetTickCount - MlngStart) End Function --------------------------------------------------------------- This is how it's used in a procedure: --------------------------------------------------------------- Private MstwStopWatch As clsStopWatch Private Sub RecordDeltaMilliseconds(stgStartStop As String, stgTestName As String) Dim stg As String Select Case stgStartStop Case "Start" Set MstwStopWatch = New clsStopWatch MstwStopWatch.StartTimer Case "Stop" stg = "INSERT INTO tblTimingData ( TestName, MilliSeconds )" _ & " VALUES ('" & stgTestName & "', " & MstwStopWatch.EndTimer & ")" DoCmd.SetWarnings False DoCmd.RunSQL stg DoCmd.SetWarnings True End Select End Sub --------------------------------------------------------------- Good Luck! Dan PS - This came from the VBA Developer's Handbook -----Original Message----- Subject: [dba-Tech] Need for Timer event in Word I've been asked to provide a generic function in Word that will play a specific sound at intervals. Initially I thought, no big deal, but I was thinking in Access terms. Word has no Timer event, so I'm wondering now how to approach this problem. Any ideas? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Nov 21 11:11:01 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:11:01 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Truetype font edit tool Message-ID: Hi all Where can I find a free tool to edit a Truetype or Opentype font? Perhaps a trial copy that is not crippled? It's only one character I have to modify, so a high flying tool is not needed. /gustav From jon at tydda.plus.com Fri Nov 21 15:17:52 2008 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:17:52 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deploying adm template for Group Policy. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84A196BE9BBC40609F35148DEAA94120@jt2c> I found out why I can't do this... It's because I'm not an Enterprise Administrator. Apparently this new company is a fair bit bigger than I thought :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: 21 November 2008 15:29 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Deploying adm template for Group Policy. I'm trying to import an ADM file into my group policy, but for the life of me, I can't work out how to do it... I tried in my normal account, and then with a Domain Admin account, and I just can't see any option to import anything. I've tried searching the web, and it's telling me to right click on "Administrative Templates", but I can't find that either in Group Policy Management, or in Users and Computers. Am I going blind, or just missing something really obvious? If it makes any difference, it's a Windows 2003 Active Directory domain. Jon Jon Tydda MCP IT Support Analyst Lonza Biologics PLC 228 Bath Road Slough Berkshire SL1 4DX UK Registered Number: 2742471 Tel: +44 (0) 1753 777077 Fax: +44 (0) 1753 777001 mailto:jon.tydda at lonza.com http://www.lonza.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Nov 21 17:11:38 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:11:38 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] API sound function In-Reply-To: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <4927CCCA.32302.3240156@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> What sort of files do you want to play? How about converting the other files to .wav? There are plenty of freeware program that will convert audio files. -- Stuart On 21 Nov 2008 at 10:11, Susan Harkins wrote: > After some testing, I've found that sndPlaySound32 only plays wav files. I'm > trying to play other sound files from inside Word -- is that possible? Can't > find any code that plays anything other than wav files. > > Susan H. > > > Does sndPlaySound32 play only wav files? Is there an API that's more > > versatile and can handle other audio files? > > > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 17:19:26 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:19:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] API sound function References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <4927CCCA.32302.3240156@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <0f0c01c94c2f$9a341c10$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I've decided to just stick with a wav file, if I do it at all -- after seeing that Class for timing, I may just skip it! ;) Susan H. > What sort of files do you want to play? > How about converting the other files to .wav? > There are plenty of freeware program that will convert audio files. > > -- > Stuart > > On 21 Nov 2008 at 10:11, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> After some testing, I've found that sndPlaySound32 only plays wav files. >> I'm >> trying to play other sound files from inside Word -- is that possible? >> Can't >> find any code that plays anything other than wav files. >> >> Susan H. >> >> > Does sndPlaySound32 play only wav files? Is there an API that's more >> > versatile and can handle other audio files? >> > >> > Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Nov 21 17:20:23 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:20:23 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Truetype font edit tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4927CED7.12908.32C049B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> First place I look for any of these questions is Pricelessware http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ That pointed me to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fontforge/ FontForge allows you to edit outline and bitmap fonts. You may create new ones or modify old ones. It is also a format converter and can interconvert between PostScript (ascii & binary Type1, some Type3, some Type0), TrueType, OpenType (Type2), CID, SVG -- Stuart On 21 Nov 2008 at 18:11, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Where can I find a free tool to edit a Truetype or Opentype font? Perhaps a trial copy that is not crippled? > It's only one character I have to modify, so a high flying tool is not needed. > > /gustav > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 23 19:30:22 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:30:22 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Best cheap mp3 editor In-Reply-To: <575B1DEE8DE54331BF2CA0EBAA361119@s1800> References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <575B1DEE8DE54331BF2CA0EBAA361119@s1800> Message-ID: <5F0174BD3783434DA446EA95F5ADF52A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi all: There are so many MP3 editors (not players) out there, but what would be a good app to do some simple clean up and voice editing of mp3 file... cut/paste/assemble etc.? TIA Jim From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun Nov 23 20:06:28 2008 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:06:28 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Best cheap mp3 editor In-Reply-To: <5F0174BD3783434DA446EA95F5ADF52A@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <575B1DEE8DE54331BF2CA0EBAA361119@s1800> <5F0174BD3783434DA446EA95F5ADF52A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <492A0C24.7020802@earthlink.net> Audacity. PB Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi all: > > There are so many MP3 editors (not players) out there, but what would be a > good app to do some simple clean up and voice editing of mp3 file... > cut/paste/assemble etc.? > > TIA > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1777 - Release Date: 11/9/2008 9:53 AM > > From bgeldart at verizon.net Sun Nov 23 20:41:58 2008 From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:41:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Best cheap mp3 editor In-Reply-To: <5F0174BD3783434DA446EA95F5ADF52A@creativesystemdesigns.com > References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <575B1DEE8DE54331BF2CA0EBAA361119@s1800> <5F0174BD3783434DA446EA95F5ADF52A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <0KAT00HRNH2FPCSG@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> I can recommend Polderbits Recorder/Editor. Simple, but quick and efficient. At 11/23/2008 08:30 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >Hi all: > >There are so many MP3 editors (not players) out there, but what would be a >good app to do some simple clean up and voice editing of mp3 file... >cut/paste/assemble etc.? > >TIA >Jim > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com Bob Geldart BGeldart at verizon.net Maynard, MA From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Nov 24 02:17:03 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:17:03 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Best cheap mp3 editor In-Reply-To: <492A0C24.7020802@earthlink.net> References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>, <5F0174BD3783434DA446EA95F5ADF52A@creativesystemdesigns.com>, <492A0C24.7020802@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <492AEF9F.26725.5D44C1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I agree On 23 Nov 2008 at 20:06, Peter Brawley wrote: > Audacity. > > PB > > Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Hi all: > > > > There are so many MP3 editors (not players) out there, but what would be a > > good app to do some simple clean up and voice editing of mp3 file... > > cut/paste/assemble etc.? > > > > TIA > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1777 - Release Date: 11/9/2008 9:53 AM > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Nov 24 03:05:44 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:05:44 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Truetype font edit tool Message-ID: Hi Stuart Thanks. I don't know but I think I searched all over, so how could I miss this great tool which seems to be able to do just about anything regarding fonts. Now I just have to find out how to operate it - I haven't planed for a future as a font designer ... /gustav >>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 22-11-2008 00:20 >>> First place I look for any of these questions is Pricelessware http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ That pointed me to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fontforge/ FontForge allows you to edit outline and bitmap fonts. You may create new ones or modify old ones. It is also a format converter and can interconvert between PostScript (ascii & binary Type1, some Type3, some Type0), TrueType, OpenType (Type2), CID, SVG -- Stuart On 21 Nov 2008 at 18:11, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Where can I find a free tool to edit a Truetype or Opentype font? Perhaps a trial copy that is not crippled? > It's only one character I have to modify, so a high flying tool is not needed. > > /gustav > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Mon Nov 24 07:31:28 2008 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:31:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Best cheap mp3 editor In-Reply-To: <492AEF9F.26725.5D44C1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <5F0174BD3783434DA446EA95F5ADF52A@creativesystemdesigns.com> <492A0C24.7020802@earthlink.net> <492AEF9F.26725.5D44C1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: At the risk of posting a Me Too, but I agree that Audacity is top notch. Bryan On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > I agree > > > On 23 Nov 2008 at 20:06, Peter Brawley wrote: > >> Audacity. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Nov 24 09:59:18 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:59:18 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Best cheap mp3 editor In-Reply-To: References: <0bb701c94beb$60b67da0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <5F0174BD3783434DA446EA95F5ADF52A@creativesystemdesigns.com> <492A0C24.7020802@earthlink.net> <492AEF9F.26725.5D44C1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Hi Peter, Bob, Stuart and Bryan: Thanks for the tips... It seems to be 3 to 1 for Audacity. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Best cheap mp3 editor At the risk of posting a Me Too, but I agree that Audacity is top notch. Bryan On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > I agree > > > On 23 Nov 2008 at 20:06, Peter Brawley wrote: > >> Audacity. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Fri Nov 28 00:13:02 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:13:02 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - Vipre Security Software - Black Friday Sale Message-ID: <032e01c95120$5ed88020$1c898060$@net> Just got notice of this: Sunbelt Software is offering an incredible Black Friday Sale on VIPRE Antivirus + Antispyware. Starting Friday November 28th your customers can pick up a single user license of VIPRE for only $9.95. Customers will also receive a $20 savings on multiple user licenses and unlimited home site licenses of VIPRE. Encourage your customers to take advantage of this 70% savings. The VIPRE Black Friday sale run Friday November 28th, 2008 and runs for 24 hours (EST). I don't think there will ever be a better deal than this. If you're using AVG, Norton, McAfee, or anything else - now is the time for a switch! Click here to learn more: http://www.winhaven.net/security/virus.html John B From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Nov 29 23:33:03 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:33:03 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting software In-Reply-To: <032e01c95120$5ed88020$1c898060$@net> References: <032e01c95120$5ed88020$1c898060$@net> Message-ID: <1D03DCC77BB74ED787BFD2BDF5D9FA2D@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All: Here is an interesting piece of software. This product is supposed to protect your system from rogue applications. According to my son-in-law the app has been running on Linux for years but now it has made a move to Windows. This might be an application for those concerned about viruses and malware and other disruptive products on your system: http://www.sandboxie.com/ . It comes highly recommended. Jim From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Nov 30 01:26:57 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:26:57 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] (no subject) Message-ID: <38687806BBF443138ED35C782932E518@HAL9005> Dear Lists: I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's 85. But I digress..). I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of the box. The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on the internet briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the Vista machine (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I cannot to save me find that dialog box again. But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network address from the router. In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero received. Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But apparently not. BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. And no other AV or firewall software is running. What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Nov 30 01:38:03 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:38:03 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting software In-Reply-To: <1D03DCC77BB74ED787BFD2BDF5D9FA2D@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <032e01c95120$5ed88020$1c898060$@net>, <1D03DCC77BB74ED787BFD2BDF5D9FA2D@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4932CF7B.26468.525F21@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Another way to protect your machine: I just bought a new laptop on Friday ( Core 2 Duo 2.4, 4GB Ram, 320GB Hard drive). I've spent the last two days getting it set up including copying everything over from my old laptop and re-installing software.( and I'm not finished yet) First thing I did was instal VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/ Then I set up a clean virtual machine running XP Pro and installed Firefox and a few utilities that I use all the time. I cloned that a few times and set up one with Office 2003 and one with Office 2007, one with Visual Studio and kept one as a clean box. Now I can do all my surfing, downloading and software development and testing in any one of the virtual machines. If something goes wrong, I can either roll it back or just dump the whole thing and clone a new one. It's brilliant. -- Stuart On 29 Nov 2008 at 21:33, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Hi All: > > Here is an interesting piece of software. This product is supposed to > protect your system from rogue applications. According to my son-in-law the > app has been running on Linux for years but now it has made a move to > Windows. > > This might be an application for those concerned about viruses and malware > and other disruptive products on your system: http://www.sandboxie.com/ . It > comes highly recommended. > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Sun Nov 30 05:36:18 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:36:18 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <38687806BBF443138ED35C782932E518@HAL9005> References: <38687806BBF443138ED35C782932E518@HAL9005> Message-ID: I recommend you click Start and then "Help and Support" (Bottom or firth column) and type in something like "Network Connection Not Working" in the search box and hit enter. I've had great luck with Vista's help contrary to earlier Microsoft help experiences. I get "Troubleshoot Network Connection Problems" as the first thing. You have to be careful to not SET UP a network though as that seems to foul up everything. I'm guessing the network adapter is inactive or something like that. Sounds like you may have been into the "Set up the network" which since you already had a network wasn't the thing to do and may have gummed up the works. You are right it SHOULD be easier but I think it's part of the more secure" nature of Vista getting in the way. Welcome to Vista! GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware buyer - he > has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - gave me a color > laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on the > internet briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network connections > for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled the modem and > router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This one is > set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network address > from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this Vista box > on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-OT mailing list > dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 30 05:59:34 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:59:34 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting software In-Reply-To: <4932CF7B.26468.525F21@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <032e01c95120$5ed88020$1c898060$@net> <1D03DCC77BB74ED787BFD2BDF5D9FA2D@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4932CF7B.26468.525F21@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <071351C873694B7EA4192EB987C51F09@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Stuart: This most likely has been discussed at length here but I have been away for a while and just have not had the time to dig through many of the conversations. At this moment I am putting together a new LAN for a client and there are a number of systems all with an inter-related hand written POS (I have been building it for almost 20 years on contract). The application is an arcain piece which the client has been completely happy with... and it does everything they need. The program rudely runs on the current systems but tends to make a pig of it's self as its core has little functionality designed to share its space. The app is perfect for VPC. Now which VPC to use. MS VPC, VMWARE or VirtualBox. What is needed is a VPC which will allow an older OS and App to be able to connect, print and mail across the LAN. So which one is best? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:38 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Interesting software Another way to protect your machine: I just bought a new laptop on Friday ( Core 2 Duo 2.4, 4GB Ram, 320GB Hard drive). I've spent the last two days getting it set up including copying everything over from my old laptop and re-installing software.( and I'm not finished yet) First thing I did was instal VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/ Then I set up a clean virtual machine running XP Pro and installed Firefox and a few utilities that I use all the time. I cloned that a few times and set up one with Office 2003 and one with Office 2007, one with Visual Studio and kept one as a clean box. Now I can do all my surfing, downloading and software development and testing in any one of the virtual machines. If something goes wrong, I can either roll it back or just dump the whole thing and clone a new one. It's brilliant. -- Stuart On 29 Nov 2008 at 21:33, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Hi All: > > Here is an interesting piece of software. This product is supposed to > protect your system from rogue applications. According to my son-in-law the > app has been running on Linux for years but now it has made a move to > Windows. > > This might be an application for those concerned about viruses and malware > and other disruptive products on your system: http://www.sandboxie.com/ . It > comes highly recommended. > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 30 06:16:58 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:16:58 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <38687806BBF443138ED35C782932E518@HAL9005> Message-ID: <16D00538EE2F48BAB8C350FAC5B2DB2B@creativesystemdesigns.com> I will concur with Gary as Vista has become more difficult to connect across the LAN. After a number of the latest updates XP/server2003/2008 are starting to behave in the same way. It took a day to get my Linux boxes to talk again, my wireless laptop refuses to connect directly, only through remote-desktop and the new Server2008 has started refusing remote-admin connections and is only allowing connections through its shares and then only via the VPN. (Everything was working when I left, the systems did one update between and when I arrived back; it is now there are problems.) I think it is the latest MS 'security' updates that have been causing the issues. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:36 AM To: Off Topic Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) I recommend you click Start and then "Help and Support" (Bottom or firth column) and type in something like "Network Connection Not Working" in the search box and hit enter. I've had great luck with Vista's help contrary to earlier Microsoft help experiences. I get "Troubleshoot Network Connection Problems" as the first thing. You have to be careful to not SET UP a network though as that seems to foul up everything. I'm guessing the network adapter is inactive or something like that. Sounds like you may have been into the "Set up the network" which since you already had a network wasn't the thing to do and may have gummed up the works. You are right it SHOULD be easier but I think it's part of the more secure" nature of Vista getting in the way. Welcome to Vista! GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware buyer - he > has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - gave me a color > laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on the > internet briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network connections > for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled the modem and > router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This one is > set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network address > from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this Vista box > on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-OT mailing list > dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 30 06:27:23 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:27:23 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is it just me In-Reply-To: <16D00538EE2F48BAB8C350FAC5B2DB2B@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <38687806BBF443138ED35C782932E518@HAL9005> <16D00538EE2F48BAB8C350FAC5B2DB2B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <82CE0E495A49410A8F4DF71BE221CAC7@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All: Is it just me or is the DBA_Tech list cross-posting to the DBA_OT list? Jim From garykjos at gmail.com Sun Nov 30 09:07:19 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:07:19 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is it just me In-Reply-To: <82CE0E495A49410A8F4DF71BE221CAC7@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <38687806BBF443138ED35C782932E518@HAL9005> <16D00538EE2F48BAB8C350FAC5B2DB2B@creativesystemdesigns.com> <82CE0E495A49410A8F4DF71BE221CAC7@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Not happening to me. We do have some people that Cross Post to those two lists sometimes. Using Gmail it's hard to know for sure without looking at the headers but I didn't see any cross posting on this message. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi All: > > Is it just me or is the DBA_Tech list cross-posting to the DBA_OT list? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Nov 30 09:21:00 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:21:00 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is it just me In-Reply-To: References: <38687806BBF443138ED35C782932E518@HAL9005><16D00538EE2F48BAB8C350FAC5B2DB2B@creativesystemdesigns.com><82CE0E495A49410A8F4DF71BE221CAC7@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <3BC5C7BDC06F4AEBAFE79AAB77930220@HAL9005> I do it when I have a tech issue. I'd cross post to AccessD as well to get the most eyes looking at my problem but it off topic for AccessD and I get in trouble with the moderators. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is it just me Not happening to me. We do have some people that Cross Post to those two lists sometimes. Using Gmail it's hard to know for sure without looking at the headers but I didn't see any cross posting on this message. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi All: > > Is it just me or is the DBA_Tech list cross-posting to the DBA_OT list? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Nov 30 10:46:50 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:46:50 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Nov 30 10:58:00 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:58:00 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> <8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> Message-ID: <884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005> OK I was a good boy, put a password on. So now I can connect to Vista box from another box. Then I discovered the Vista switch which requires users to enter a password to get on the Vista machine. Turned that off and now I'm no longer prompted for a password . Closer and closer. Now if I could just figure out what's wrong with that hub and get the last machine on the LAN. Which isn't too important. It's an old P3 which I put upstairs at Max's old workstation. When he comes back he'll have his laptop and wireless. So he'll be able to work. Still I'd like to get that last bit working. BTW, At the moment, the modem goes into the hub. Hub goes to router. Not sure why I have it that way but since it's working I'm reluctant to start switching things around. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:47 AM To: 'Off Topic' Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Sun Nov 30 11:01:17 2008 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:01:17 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> <8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> Message-ID: <959DA53FB7434425935EF73F094A63C0@BPCS> HI Rocky, I haven't tested this but it might work, try adding a password then do the following that I downloaded from the web to allow your PC to turn on with out a password but would let you enter a password to connect from another machine. If you want to connect often, you could map the Vista machine and store the login/password in the mapping procedure. >From an Ed Bott piece 7/07 ****** Don't do this if your system contains confidential data and is physically insecure. It's a very bad idea to enable auto-logon on a notebook, for instance, because anyone who walks away with the notebook can get to its contents just by turning it on. The same is true if your system is in a location that can't be locked up, such as a cubicle in an office bullpen. A passerby who wants to break into your computer only has to hit the power switch and wait for your system to restart and log on automatically to your account. Also, don't follow the instructions from some older Windows versions to enter your default password in the Registry. That option works but leaves your logon password exposed in clear text where anyone can find it. The option described here saves this value as an encrypted LSA secret, which is many times more secure. As long as you understand and accept the risks, here's how to enable auto-logon (these steps work identically in all Vista editions, including Home Basic and Home Premium). These instructions assume you are using a workgroup configuration and not logging on to a Windows domain: 1. From an account in the Administrators group, click Start. In the search box, type netplwiz and press Enter. This opens the Advanced User Accounts Control Panel shown here. 2. Clear the check box to the left of Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer and then click Apply. 3. In the Automatically Log On dialog box, enter the user name assigned to the account you want to Windows to use each time you start up. Enter the password in both dialog boxes. 4. Click OK to save your changes. Now restart your system. You should bypass the logon screen and go straight to your desktop, just as you did in XP. ************* HTH Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Off Topic'" Cc: "List" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Sun Nov 30 11:01:17 2008 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:01:17 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> <8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> Message-ID: <959DA53FB7434425935EF73F094A63C0@BPCS> HI Rocky, I haven't tested this but it might work, try adding a password then do the following that I downloaded from the web to allow your PC to turn on with out a password but would let you enter a password to connect from another machine. If you want to connect often, you could map the Vista machine and store the login/password in the mapping procedure. >From an Ed Bott piece 7/07 ****** Don't do this if your system contains confidential data and is physically insecure. It's a very bad idea to enable auto-logon on a notebook, for instance, because anyone who walks away with the notebook can get to its contents just by turning it on. The same is true if your system is in a location that can't be locked up, such as a cubicle in an office bullpen. A passerby who wants to break into your computer only has to hit the power switch and wait for your system to restart and log on automatically to your account. Also, don't follow the instructions from some older Windows versions to enter your default password in the Registry. That option works but leaves your logon password exposed in clear text where anyone can find it. The option described here saves this value as an encrypted LSA secret, which is many times more secure. As long as you understand and accept the risks, here's how to enable auto-logon (these steps work identically in all Vista editions, including Home Basic and Home Premium). These instructions assume you are using a workgroup configuration and not logging on to a Windows domain: 1. From an account in the Administrators group, click Start. In the search box, type netplwiz and press Enter. This opens the Advanced User Accounts Control Panel shown here. 2. Clear the check box to the left of Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer and then click Apply. 3. In the Automatically Log On dialog box, enter the user name assigned to the account you want to Windows to use each time you start up. Enter the password in both dialog boxes. 4. Click OK to save your changes. Now restart your system. You should bypass the logon screen and go straight to your desktop, just as you did in XP. ************* HTH Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Off Topic'" Cc: "List" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Sun Nov 30 11:06:09 2008 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:06:09 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005> References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com><8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> <884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005> Message-ID: <2DF31A581F6E4573914B8E6F89BA078F@BPCS> Hi again, As more and more machines are coming with 1g Nic cards and you can buy 1G switches in the $40 range. You might consider replacing the hub with a switch, plug all your PC's into the switch and feed the switch from the router. This would increase your network speed between boxes with 1G NIC's, like doing backups to a NAS. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Off Topic'" Cc: "List" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) OK I was a good boy, put a password on. So now I can connect to Vista box from another box. Then I discovered the Vista switch which requires users to enter a password to get on the Vista machine. Turned that off and now I'm no longer prompted for a password . Closer and closer. Now if I could just figure out what's wrong with that hub and get the last machine on the LAN. Which isn't too important. It's an old P3 which I put upstairs at Max's old workstation. When he comes back he'll have his laptop and wireless. So he'll be able to work. Still I'd like to get that last bit working. BTW, At the moment, the modem goes into the hub. Hub goes to router. Not sure why I have it that way but since it's working I'm reluctant to start switching things around. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:47 AM To: 'Off Topic' Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Sun Nov 30 11:06:09 2008 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:06:09 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005> References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com><8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> <884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005> Message-ID: <2DF31A581F6E4573914B8E6F89BA078F@BPCS> Hi again, As more and more machines are coming with 1g Nic cards and you can buy 1G switches in the $40 range. You might consider replacing the hub with a switch, plug all your PC's into the switch and feed the switch from the router. This would increase your network speed between boxes with 1G NIC's, like doing backups to a NAS. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Off Topic'" Cc: "List" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) OK I was a good boy, put a password on. So now I can connect to Vista box from another box. Then I discovered the Vista switch which requires users to enter a password to get on the Vista machine. Turned that off and now I'm no longer prompted for a password . Closer and closer. Now if I could just figure out what's wrong with that hub and get the last machine on the LAN. Which isn't too important. It's an old P3 which I put upstairs at Max's old workstation. When he comes back he'll have his laptop and wireless. So he'll be able to work. Still I'd like to get that last bit working. BTW, At the moment, the modem goes into the hub. Hub goes to router. Not sure why I have it that way but since it's working I'm reluctant to start switching things around. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:47 AM To: 'Off Topic' Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Sun Nov 30 11:17:14 2008 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:17:14 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005> References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com><8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005> <884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005> Message-ID: <2C47EFBF23424EDBBD5EC8A9A8399A9F@BPCS> I bought this switch at Fry's for $45 a couple of months ago, here is one for $29 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2201255 Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Off Topic'" Cc: "List" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) OK I was a good boy, put a password on. So now I can connect to Vista box from another box. Then I discovered the Vista switch which requires users to enter a password to get on the Vista machine. Turned that off and now I'm no longer prompted for a password . Closer and closer. Now if I could just figure out what's wrong with that hub and get the last machine on the LAN. Which isn't too important. It's an old P3 which I put upstairs at Max's old workstation. When he comes back he'll have his laptop and wireless. So he'll be able to work. Still I'd like to get that last bit working. BTW, At the moment, the modem goes into the hub. Hub goes to router. Not sure why I have it that way but since it's working I'm reluctant to start switching things around. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:47 AM To: 'Off Topic' Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Nov 30 12:02:55 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:02:55 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <2C47EFBF23424EDBBD5EC8A9A8399A9F@BPCS> References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com><8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005><884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005> <2C47EFBF23424EDBBD5EC8A9A8399A9F@BPCS> Message-ID: Bill: Thanks for all the replies. What's the difference between a switch and a hub? Best, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) I bought this switch at Fry's for $45 a couple of months ago, here is one for $29 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2 201255 Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Off Topic'" Cc: "List" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) OK I was a good boy, put a password on. So now I can connect to Vista box from another box. Then I discovered the Vista switch which requires users to enter a password to get on the Vista machine. Turned that off and now I'm no longer prompted for a password . Closer and closer. Now if I could just figure out what's wrong with that hub and get the last machine on the LAN. Which isn't too important. It's an old P3 which I put upstairs at Max's old workstation. When he comes back he'll have his laptop and wireless. So he'll be able to work. Still I'd like to get that last bit working. BTW, At the moment, the modem goes into the hub. Hub goes to router. Not sure why I have it that way but since it's working I'm reluctant to start switching things around. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:47 AM To: 'Off Topic' Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Nov 30 12:10:05 2008 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:10:05 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com><8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005><884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005><2C47EFBF23424EDBBD5EC8A9A8399A9F@BPCS> Message-ID: <8C8607174CDE41EBA4D7A630AB4D4020@jt2c> A switch actively directs traffic from the port it's coming from to the port it's looking for, where a hub is just a free for all. Hubs are a little bit slower because of all this traffic. Without a switch, if you're transferring lots of info over yur own network, you could DDOS yourself, and you wouldn't like that! ;-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: 30 November 2008 18:03 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) Bill: Thanks for all the replies. What's the difference between a switch and a hub? Best, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) I bought this switch at Fry's for $45 a couple of months ago, here is one for $29 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2 201255 Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Off Topic'" Cc: "List" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) OK I was a good boy, put a password on. So now I can connect to Vista box from another box. Then I discovered the Vista switch which requires users to enter a password to get on the Vista machine. Turned that off and now I'm no longer prompted for a password . Closer and closer. Now if I could just figure out what's wrong with that hub and get the last machine on the LAN. Which isn't too important. It's an old P3 which I put upstairs at Max's old workstation. When he comes back he'll have his laptop and wireless. So he'll be able to work. Still I'd like to get that last bit working. BTW, At the moment, the modem goes into the hub. Hub goes to router. Not sure why I have it that way but since it's working I'm reluctant to start switching things around. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:47 AM To: 'Off Topic' Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Sun Nov 30 14:33:14 2008 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:33:14 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <8CB211F53B5F591-D64-1D@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com><8DAB24DF23884D0083F2C09B81CA413E@HAL9005><884A825BEA9544F99C15FC5029C94AE2@HAL9005><2C47EFBF23424EDBBD5EC8A9A8399A9F@BPCS> Message-ID: <68C953B5D5AA4FACBA421DA2C0A092A9@BPCS> Hi Rocky, In addition to what Jon said, I believe (I don't know this for sure so you might check it out) that most hubs will transfer at the speed of the slowest connection, so that if you plug in 2 1G's and a 10/100 everything will be 100, a switch isolates each connection so that the 2 1G's can transfer at the 1G speed and if you are transferring to the 10/100 everything travels at 100. I'm sure that there are people here that can let us know if I'm wrong. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) Bill: Thanks for all the replies. What's the difference between a switch and a hub? Best, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) I bought this switch at Fry's for $45 a couple of months ago, here is one for $29 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2 201255 Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Off Topic'" Cc: "List" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject) OK I was a good boy, put a password on. So now I can connect to Vista box from another box. Then I discovered the Vista switch which requires users to enter a password to get on the Vista machine. Turned that off and now I'm no longer prompted for a password . Closer and closer. Now if I could just figure out what's wrong with that hub and get the last machine on the LAN. Which isn't too important. It's an old P3 which I put upstairs at Max's old workstation. When he comes back he'll have his laptop and wireless. So he'll be able to work. Still I'd like to get that last bit working. BTW, At the moment, the modem goes into the hub. Hub goes to router. Not sure why I have it that way but since it's working I'm reluctant to start switching things around. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:47 AM To: 'Off Topic' Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Getting closer. The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on my router and I need 5. So one of the ports is connected to a hub. The hub seems to be the problem. It's working because the modem is connected to the hub. So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody. Some of them can't browse the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track down. However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog box asking for User name and password. When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user account - I'm administrator - with no password. However, blank passwords are not allowed. Now what do I do? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install issue. Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables... Dickford -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software To: 'Off Topic' Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!! Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DBCfour at aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:37 AM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-OT] (no subject) Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out. Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it only made it on breifly. When you reset everything and everybody, maybe all the addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to get it's address assigned. Donna In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, garykjos at gmail.com writes: I thought of one other thing to watch for.... When you bring up your browser, do the router or network switch lights blink at all to show activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even getting out of the Vista box and to focus there. Good luck. My guess is it will be a small change to make it work. Kind of like finding the needle in the haystack though. I thought I was going to go through it again when I added a gigabit ethernet card to the Vista box - I don't name my boxes very well, it's called Duocore - and had to switch over from the onboard ethernet to the add in card one. Take small steps is all I can advise as I don't remember what exactly I did but it is working now. GK On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive hardware > buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of printers - > gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using either. He's > 85. But I digress..). > I used the restore disk so it's a clean machine - just like out of > the box. > > The Vista machine can't see the network or the internet. I got it on > the intern et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the > Vista machine > (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the network > connections for the other machines. So I shut everybody down, cycled > the modem and router. Now everybody is back except the Vista machine. > > I see that there's two type of networks - public and private. This > one is set to public. Don't know what that's all about. > > Diagnose and repair also has options to automatically get new IP setting, > and reset the network adapter. Neither worked. But the one time I was able > to find the dialog box with the IP address I see that it's not a > 192.168.1.xxx like the rest of the machines on the network. But I > cannot to > save me find that dialog box again. > > But I'm guessing that's the problem - not picking up a good network > address from the router. > > In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many packets send - zero > received. > > Now you'd think that Vista would be able to do this by itself. But > apparently not. > > BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate that variable. > And no other AV or firewall software is running. > > What am I overlooking? Is there something simple that gets this > Vista box on my LAN and out to the internet? > > > > MTIA, **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-OT mailing list dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kpelletti at chubb.com Sun Nov 30 22:00:32 2008 From: kpelletti at chubb.com (kpelletti at chubb.com) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:00:32 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] doc sharing software - recommended tool? Message-ID: Hi everybody - I have temporarily re-subscribed (new job going well) so I can ask you all if you have a tip on this...... I am looking for some (preferably freeware) software to allow users in my dept and in Singapore to share some requirement docs. At the moment multiple stakeholders are all making changes to the one requirements doc across the network and that could go pear shaped pretty quickly. Features I need are: - Checkin/out (only one editable version at one time) - Version control We already share docs across the network but need a tool to provide some level of control. TIA Kath Kath Pelletti | Business Analyst |