From marklbreen at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 09:09:58 2009
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:09:58 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
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Hello Rocky,

I have lot and lots of experience with printing single labels.  Not sure how
to help here but....

First thing to get right is your page size and orientation.  Playing around
has always worked well for me in Access.  You can try setting the page
smaller than the actual labels to start with then gradually expand the label
to fit the actual size of the paper.  *Primary advice.  Do not rush this
phase.  *If you do not get the page size and orientation right, first, you
cannot print labels.  So create a single table with five records, with one
field with values test1, test2 ... test5 and get that printing.  You will
have to play with drivers and margins (usually I find it best to set 0 as
the margins and handle the layout within the label.  At times you will find
you are unable to get something to work for you in the Access/Windows
Printer Driver working and then you will start to notice that there are
printer settings that you can manually set.  At other times, you will notice
that the windows driver overwrites the printer settings.

Sometimes you will notice that a setting does exist in the printer driver,
but you could not see that from within MS Access.  I repeat again, get this
stuff right and the rest will be easy.  Until you learn your Printer /
Driver and then MS Access printing abilitys in little labels, you may
struggle.

Sometimes you find that the Windows Driver for the printer is poor, and you
need to remove it and switch to the Manufacturers driver, and sometimes you
need to trash the manufacturer's driver and find that Bill Gates driver
works a treat !

If you need to print qtys, sometimes it is useful to set the qty in the
printer itself.

Finally, for manufacturing environments, I usually printer a Header label
and the footer label with job numbers etc, this also works well.

I have used many termal transfer printers, but in recent years I have
learned to love Printronix machines, but Zebra are also some of the best.

When you have your hardware, and labels, let us know and if I can help, I
will try.

Oh, and make sure to have ten thousand labels to start with :)

I recall once telling the customer that I needed about 30,000 labels for
volume testing, when the customer told me that the labels cost approx ?0.50,
I adjusted my qty down to 10 labels :)

I have spent my youth printing labels :)

Mark





2009/12/1 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>

> Dear List(s):
>
> I have a client who wants a label printer - single labels off a roll. It
> will be printing the label from a record in my database from a bound form.
> So I want as simple as possible.  Haven't fooled with these for years.  Any
> recommendations - cheap, simple, easy to drive from an Access app?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
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>
>


From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Dec  1 09:18:28 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:18:28 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
	<c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B2B11A89@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

When we did lots of label printing, we found it easier to create a report in Crystal Reports, and pass the results through that into the label printer.

We used Zebra and Toshiba TEC label printers, although I much prefer the Toshibas to the Zebras - the driver had much more that you could configure, and play with to fix. When the Zebra went wrong, it was guesswork...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:10 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Label Printer

Hello Rocky,

I have lot and lots of experience with printing single labels.  Not sure how to help here but....

First thing to get right is your page size and orientation.  Playing around has always worked well for me in Access.  You can try setting the page smaller than the actual labels to start with then gradually expand the label to fit the actual size of the paper.  *Primary advice.  Do not rush this phase.  *If you do not get the page size and orientation right, first, you cannot print labels.  So create a single table with five records, with one field with values test1, test2 ... test5 and get that printing.  You will have to play with drivers and margins (usually I find it best to set 0 as the margins and handle the layout within the label.  At times you will find you are unable to get something to work for you in the Access/Windows Printer Driver working and then you will start to notice that there are printer settings that you can manually set.  At other times, you will notice that the windows driver overwrites the printer settings.

Sometimes you will notice that a setting does exist in the printer driver, but you could not see that from within MS Access.  I repeat again, get this stuff right and the rest will be easy.  Until you learn your Printer / Driver and then MS Access printing abilitys in little labels, you may struggle.

Sometimes you find that the Windows Driver for the printer is poor, and you need to remove it and switch to the Manufacturers driver, and sometimes you need to trash the manufacturer's driver and find that Bill Gates driver works a treat !

If you need to print qtys, sometimes it is useful to set the qty in the printer itself.

Finally, for manufacturing environments, I usually printer a Header label and the footer label with job numbers etc, this also works well.

I have used many termal transfer printers, but in recent years I have learned to love Printronix machines, but Zebra are also some of the best.

When you have your hardware, and labels, let us know and if I can help, I will try.

Oh, and make sure to have ten thousand labels to start with :)

I recall once telling the customer that I needed about 30,000 labels for volume testing, when the customer told me that the labels cost approx ?0.50, I adjusted my qty down to 10 labels :)

I have spent my youth printing labels :)

Mark





2009/12/1 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>

> Dear List(s):
>
> I have a client who wants a label printer - single labels off a roll.
> It will be printing the label from a record in my database from a bound form.
> So I want as simple as possible.  Haven't fooled with these for years.
> Any recommendations - cheap, simple, easy to drive from an Access app?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec  1 09:32:28 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:32:28 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
	<c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B35F633A5DF400A8B613B9CDEE4AE85@HAL9005>

Mark:

Thanks for the advice.  Is it wishful thinking that if I install the label printer as a printer and set the report to that specific printer that the label will just come out all nice and neat? 

Rocky  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Label Printer

Hello Rocky,

I have lot and lots of experience with printing single labels.  Not sure how to help here but....

First thing to get right is your page size and orientation.  Playing around has always worked well for me in Access.  You can try setting the page smaller than the actual labels to start with then gradually expand the label to fit the actual size of the paper.  *Primary advice.  Do not rush this phase.  *If you do not get the page size and orientation right, first, you cannot print labels.  So create a single table with five records, with one field with values test1, test2 ... test5 and get that printing.  You will have to play with drivers and margins (usually I find it best to set 0 as the margins and handle the layout within the label.  At times you will find you are unable to get something to work for you in the Access/Windows Printer Driver working and then you will start to notice that there are printer settings that you can manually set.  At other times, you will notice that the windows driver overwrites the printer settings.

Sometimes you will notice that a setting does exist in the printer driver, but you could not see that from within MS Access.  I repeat again, get this stuff right and the rest will be easy.  Until you learn your Printer / Driver and then MS Access printing abilitys in little labels, you may struggle.

Sometimes you find that the Windows Driver for the printer is poor, and you need to remove it and switch to the Manufacturers driver, and sometimes you need to trash the manufacturer's driver and find that Bill Gates driver works a treat !

If you need to print qtys, sometimes it is useful to set the qty in the printer itself.

Finally, for manufacturing environments, I usually printer a Header label and the footer label with job numbers etc, this also works well.

I have used many termal transfer printers, but in recent years I have learned to love Printronix machines, but Zebra are also some of the best.

When you have your hardware, and labels, let us know and if I can help, I will try.

Oh, and make sure to have ten thousand labels to start with :)

I recall once telling the customer that I needed about 30,000 labels for volume testing, when the customer told me that the labels cost approx ?0.50, I adjusted my qty down to 10 labels :)

I have spent my youth printing labels :)

Mark





2009/12/1 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>

> Dear List(s):
>
> I have a client who wants a label printer - single labels off a roll. 
> It will be printing the label from a record in my database from a bound form.
> So I want as simple as possible.  Haven't fooled with these for years.  
> Any recommendations - cheap, simple, easy to drive from an Access app?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 09:57:01 2009
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:57:01 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <4B35F633A5DF400A8B613B9CDEE4AE85@HAL9005>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
	<c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B35F633A5DF400A8B613B9CDEE4AE85@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <c7fd28d00912010757o6c1cc4e3ucbdd58f0cc03a072@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Rocky,

It is not wishful thinking, the printing process is identical to printing
from MS word on a laser printer.  In fact, when I try to learn a new
printer, I often start off with MS Word.  If you cannot do a test with Word
or Excel to the Zebra / Printronix / Other printer, how can MS Access print.


So,

1) get the hard ware installed
2) review the setting in the printer (do not skip this bit)
3) review the driver options
4) install the driver that ships making sure to check it is is Vista / 64bit
/ Windows 2008 Server etc compatible
5) try to set the page size to 1 inch by 1 inch (or what ever your label
size is)
6) try to print from Word or Excel
7) create a report in Access and try to print that
8) Get clever with a few lines of code to call the docmd.openreport command
and experiment with not print printpreviewing, which will allow you to send
three docs sequentially which may be a header, body and footer.
9) Presto - it is all easy to do and MS Access proves to be a brilliant
Reporting / code behind tool with only 10 lines of code.


On one big application I work in for the last few years, we have printer
thousands of complex in this mode and it is so each to make changes when
required.

If you have to print millions of labels a month, I have a whole other set of
advice to give :)  Which is what I spent my youth on.

Again, if you are struggling just call me any time on +353 86 8066970 GMT
time though

Mark




2009/12/1 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>

> Mark:
>
> Thanks for the advice.  Is it wishful thinking that if I install the label
> printer as a printer and set the report to that specific printer that the
> label will just come out all nice and neat?
>
> Rocky
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:10 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Label Printer
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> I have lot and lots of experience with printing single labels.  Not sure
> how to help here but....
>
> First thing to get right is your page size and orientation.  Playing around
> has always worked well for me in Access.  You can try setting the page
> smaller than the actual labels to start with then gradually expand the label
> to fit the actual size of the paper.  *Primary advice.  Do not rush this
> phase.  *If you do not get the page size and orientation right, first, you
> cannot print labels.  So create a single table with five records, with one
> field with values test1, test2 ... test5 and get that printing.  You will
> have to play with drivers and margins (usually I find it best to set 0 as
> the margins and handle the layout within the label.  At times you will find
> you are unable to get something to work for you in the Access/Windows
> Printer Driver working and then you will start to notice that there are
> printer settings that you can manually set.  At other times, you will notice
> that the windows driver overwrites the printer settings.
>
> Sometimes you will notice that a setting does exist in the printer driver,
> but you could not see that from within MS Access.  I repeat again, get this
> stuff right and the rest will be easy.  Until you learn your Printer /
> Driver and then MS Access printing abilitys in little labels, you may
> struggle.
>
> Sometimes you find that the Windows Driver for the printer is poor, and you
> need to remove it and switch to the Manufacturers driver, and sometimes you
> need to trash the manufacturer's driver and find that Bill Gates driver
> works a treat !
>
> If you need to print qtys, sometimes it is useful to set the qty in the
> printer itself.
>
> Finally, for manufacturing environments, I usually printer a Header label
> and the footer label with job numbers etc, this also works well.
>
> I have used many termal transfer printers, but in recent years I have
> learned to love Printronix machines, but Zebra are also some of the best.
>
> When you have your hardware, and labels, let us know and if I can help, I
> will try.
>
> Oh, and make sure to have ten thousand labels to start with :)
>
> I recall once telling the customer that I needed about 30,000 labels for
> volume testing, when the customer told me that the labels cost approx ?0.50,
> I adjusted my qty down to 10 labels :)
>
> I have spent my youth printing labels :)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/12/1 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>
> > Dear List(s):
> >
> > I have a client who wants a label printer - single labels off a roll.
> > It will be printing the label from a record in my database from a bound
> form.
> > So I want as simple as possible.  Haven't fooled with these for years.
> > Any recommendations - cheap, simple, easy to drive from an Access app?
> >
> >
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> >
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 09:59:23 2009
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:59:23 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <c7fd28d00912010757o6c1cc4e3ucbdd58f0cc03a072@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
	<c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B35F633A5DF400A8B613B9CDEE4AE85@HAL9005>
	<c7fd28d00912010757o6c1cc4e3ucbdd58f0cc03a072@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c7fd28d00912010759q2e616396l5fa7637c80d91f34@mail.gmail.com>

One more thing.

Learn the hardware, learn how to install the paper and the ribbon.

About ten times in the last ten years, I have spent a day or two struggling
with a machine only to find out that I installed the ribbon incorrectly and
once I re-routed the ribbon / paper, all was Ok.

Oh, and one more last thing.  Try to buy good ribbons, the cheap and nasty
ribbons are cheap and nasty.

Mark



2009/12/1 Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com>

> Hello Rocky,
>
> It is not wishful thinking, the printing process is identical to printing
> from MS word on a laser printer.  In fact, when I try to learn a new
> printer, I often start off with MS Word.  If you cannot do a test with Word
> or Excel to the Zebra / Printronix / Other printer, how can MS Access print.
>
>
> So,
>
> 1) get the hard ware installed
> 2) review the setting in the printer (do not skip this bit)
> 3) review the driver options
> 4) install the driver that ships making sure to check it is is Vista /
> 64bit / Windows 2008 Server etc compatible
> 5) try to set the page size to 1 inch by 1 inch (or what ever your label
> size is)
> 6) try to print from Word or Excel
> 7) create a report in Access and try to print that
> 8) Get clever with a few lines of code to call the docmd.openreport command
> and experiment with not print printpreviewing, which will allow you to send
> three docs sequentially which may be a header, body and footer.
> 9) Presto - it is all easy to do and MS Access proves to be a brilliant
> Reporting / code behind tool with only 10 lines of code.
>
>
> On one big application I work in for the last few years, we have printer
> thousands of complex in this mode and it is so each to make changes when
> required.
>
> If you have to print millions of labels a month, I have a whole other set
> of advice to give :)  Which is what I spent my youth on.
>
> Again, if you are struggling just call me any time on +353 86 8066970 GMT
> time though
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> 2009/12/1 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>
>> Mark:
>>
>> Thanks for the advice.  Is it wishful thinking that if I install the label
>> printer as a printer and set the report to that specific printer that the
>> label will just come out all nice and neat?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
>> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:10 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Label Printer
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> I have lot and lots of experience with printing single labels.  Not sure
>> how to help here but....
>>
>> First thing to get right is your page size and orientation.  Playing
>> around has always worked well for me in Access.  You can try setting the
>> page smaller than the actual labels to start with then gradually expand the
>> label to fit the actual size of the paper.  *Primary advice.  Do not rush
>> this phase.  *If you do not get the page size and orientation right, first,
>> you cannot print labels.  So create a single table with five records, with
>> one field with values test1, test2 ... test5 and get that printing.  You
>> will have to play with drivers and margins (usually I find it best to set 0
>> as the margins and handle the layout within the label.  At times you will
>> find you are unable to get something to work for you in the Access/Windows
>> Printer Driver working and then you will start to notice that there are
>> printer settings that you can manually set.  At other times, you will notice
>> that the windows driver overwrites the printer settings.
>>
>> Sometimes you will notice that a setting does exist in the printer driver,
>> but you could not see that from within MS Access.  I repeat again, get this
>> stuff right and the rest will be easy.  Until you learn your Printer /
>> Driver and then MS Access printing abilitys in little labels, you may
>> struggle.
>>
>> Sometimes you find that the Windows Driver for the printer is poor, and
>> you need to remove it and switch to the Manufacturers driver, and sometimes
>> you need to trash the manufacturer's driver and find that Bill Gates driver
>> works a treat !
>>
>> If you need to print qtys, sometimes it is useful to set the qty in the
>> printer itself.
>>
>> Finally, for manufacturing environments, I usually printer a Header label
>> and the footer label with job numbers etc, this also works well.
>>
>> I have used many termal transfer printers, but in recent years I have
>> learned to love Printronix machines, but Zebra are also some of the best.
>>
>> When you have your hardware, and labels, let us know and if I can help, I
>> will try.
>>
>> Oh, and make sure to have ten thousand labels to start with :)
>>
>> I recall once telling the customer that I needed about 30,000 labels for
>> volume testing, when the customer told me that the labels cost approx ?0.50,
>> I adjusted my qty down to 10 labels :)
>>
>> I have spent my youth printing labels :)
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/12/1 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>
>> > Dear List(s):
>> >
>> > I have a client who wants a label printer - single labels off a roll.
>> > It will be printing the label from a record in my database from a bound
>> form.
>> > So I want as simple as possible.  Haven't fooled with these for years.
>> > Any recommendations - cheap, simple, easy to drive from an Access app?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > MTIA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Rocky
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > dba-Tech mailing list
>> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> >
>> >
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>>
>>
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>>
>
>


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec  1 10:31:15 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:31:15 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <c7fd28d00912010757o6c1cc4e3ucbdd58f0cc03a072@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005><c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com><4B35F633A5DF400A8B613B9CDEE4AE85@HAL9005>
	<c7fd28d00912010757o6c1cc4e3ucbdd58f0cc03a072@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E69065D266ED483A9B5681C5571C0B66@HAL9005>

Mark:

Thanks again.  This guy wants the printer on his desk to just pump them out one at a time, slap on a promo piece or envelope. So, real low volume.  Means real low cost of HW & SW.  That's why I'm trying to figure this before I get into it too deep.  He favors the Brother QL-500 - low cost and available at Staples.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:57 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Label Printer

Hello Rocky,

It is not wishful thinking, the printing process is identical to printing from MS word on a laser printer.  In fact, when I try to learn a new printer, I often start off with MS Word.  If you cannot do a test with Word or Excel to the Zebra / Printronix / Other printer, how can MS Access print.


So,

1) get the hard ware installed
2) review the setting in the printer (do not skip this bit)
3) review the driver options
4) install the driver that ships making sure to check it is is Vista / 64bit / Windows 2008 Server etc compatible
5) try to set the page size to 1 inch by 1 inch (or what ever your label size is)
6) try to print from Word or Excel
7) create a report in Access and try to print that
8) Get clever with a few lines of code to call the docmd.openreport command and experiment with not print printpreviewing, which will allow you to send three docs sequentially which may be a header, body and footer.
9) Presto - it is all easy to do and MS Access proves to be a brilliant Reporting / code behind tool with only 10 lines of code.


On one big application I work in for the last few years, we have printer thousands of complex in this mode and it is so each to make changes when required.

If you have to print millions of labels a month, I have a whole other set of advice to give :)  Which is what I spent my youth on.

Again, if you are struggling just call me any time on +353 86 8066970 GMT time though

Mark




2009/12/1 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>

> Mark:
>
> Thanks for the advice.  Is it wishful thinking that if I install the 
> label printer as a printer and set the report to that specific printer 
> that the label will just come out all nice and neat?
>
> Rocky
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:10 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Label Printer
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> I have lot and lots of experience with printing single labels.  Not 
> sure how to help here but....
>
> First thing to get right is your page size and orientation.  Playing 
> around has always worked well for me in Access.  You can try setting 
> the page smaller than the actual labels to start with then gradually 
> expand the label to fit the actual size of the paper.  *Primary 
> advice.  Do not rush this phase.  *If you do not get the page size and 
> orientation right, first, you cannot print labels.  So create a single 
> table with five records, with one field with values test1, test2 ... 
> test5 and get that printing.  You will have to play with drivers and 
> margins (usually I find it best to set 0 as the margins and handle the 
> layout within the label.  At times you will find you are unable to get 
> something to work for you in the Access/Windows Printer Driver working 
> and then you will start to notice that there are printer settings that 
> you can manually set.  At other times, you will notice that the windows driver overwrites the printer settings.
>
> Sometimes you will notice that a setting does exist in the printer 
> driver, but you could not see that from within MS Access.  I repeat 
> again, get this stuff right and the rest will be easy.  Until you 
> learn your Printer / Driver and then MS Access printing abilitys in 
> little labels, you may struggle.
>
> Sometimes you find that the Windows Driver for the printer is poor, 
> and you need to remove it and switch to the Manufacturers driver, and 
> sometimes you need to trash the manufacturer's driver and find that 
> Bill Gates driver works a treat !
>
> If you need to print qtys, sometimes it is useful to set the qty in 
> the printer itself.
>
> Finally, for manufacturing environments, I usually printer a Header 
> label and the footer label with job numbers etc, this also works well.
>
> I have used many termal transfer printers, but in recent years I have 
> learned to love Printronix machines, but Zebra are also some of the best.
>
> When you have your hardware, and labels, let us know and if I can 
> help, I will try.
>
> Oh, and make sure to have ten thousand labels to start with :)
>
> I recall once telling the customer that I needed about 30,000 labels 
> for volume testing, when the customer told me that the labels cost 
> approx ?0.50, I adjusted my qty down to 10 labels :)
>
> I have spent my youth printing labels :)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/12/1 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>
> > Dear List(s):
> >
> > I have a client who wants a label printer - single labels off a roll.
> > It will be printing the label from a record in my database from a 
> > bound
> form.
> > So I want as simple as possible.  Haven't fooled with these for years.
> > Any recommendations - cheap, simple, easy to drive from an Access app?
> >
> >
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> >
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Dec  2 00:05:27 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:05:27 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] JavaScript language; the next language
In-Reply-To: <c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
	<c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FEB7ED734F0F4965A0BB11958B24C538@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

We have all discussed the growth and evolution of various languages but
there may be another super language which will dominate the web and
therefore most of our future product development.

CommonJS effort sets JavaScript on path for world domination.

http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/12/commonjs-effort-sets-javascript-on-p
ath-for-world-domination.ars

Jim 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Dec  2 07:52:34 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:52:34 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free e-book: Windows Server 2008 R2
Message-ID: <sb167f51.063@cactus.dk>

Hi all

This is a free 160 page download at Microsoft:

Introducing Windows Server 2008 R2

http://co1piltwb.partners.extranet.microsoft.com/mcoeredir/mcoeredirect.aspx?linkId=12927447&s1=bec18166-5cd7-dfec-fa17-607994aaff96

/gustav




From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Dec  2 13:15:01 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:15:01 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free e-book: Windows Server 2008 R2
In-Reply-To: <sb167f51.063@cactus.dk>
References: <sb167f51.063@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <B95846F2607A4F7BA27EE4350FFBDA87@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Thanks for the link Gustav. I have been working with Windows Server 2008
enterprize version for the last couple of years but I am sure there is a lot
more to learn.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:53 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free e-book: Windows Server 2008 R2

Hi all

This is a free 160 page download at Microsoft:

Introducing Windows Server 2008 R2

http://co1piltwb.partners.extranet.microsoft.com/mcoeredir/mcoeredirect.aspx
?linkId=12927447&s1=bec18166-5cd7-dfec-fa17-607994aaff96

/gustav


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Dec  3 08:45:47 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 06:45:47 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bing maps powered by SilverLight
In-Reply-To: <FEB7ED734F0F4965A0BB11958B24C538@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
	<c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
	<FEB7ED734F0F4965A0BB11958B24C538@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <1AA214D73FE84E7EBD59183DD11A556E@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

See the beta Bing maps powered by Silverlight. It should immediately put you
in your home town:

http://www.bing.com/maps/explore

...all sorts of bells and whistles.

Jim




From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Dec  3 14:55:47 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:55:47 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] An energy self contained island
In-Reply-To: <1AA214D73FE84E7EBD59183DD11A556E@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
	<c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>
	<FEB7ED734F0F4965A0BB11958B24C538@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<1AA214D73FE84E7EBD59183DD11A556E@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <2E701F4CBFA04D4B9424C500958B0759@creativesystemdesigns.com>

A small Danish island becomes the first self contained energy sufficent spot
on earth.

http://www.smartplanet.com/business/blog/smart-takes/danish-island-becomes-o
ne-of-first-places-on-earth-to-be-energy-self-sufficient/2443

Jim



From bheid at sc.rr.com  Thu Dec  3 21:59:26 2009
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:59:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bing maps powered by SilverLight
In-Reply-To: <1AA214D73FE84E7EBD59183DD11A556E@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>	<c7fd28d00912010709o6dc11dceg2fc10ab076d9140@mail.gmail.com>	<FEB7ED734F0F4965A0BB11958B24C538@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<1AA214D73FE84E7EBD59183DD11A556E@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <002901ca7496$2bf7d8a0$83e789e0$@rr.com>

Wow, that is really cool looking.  Thanks for the link.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bing maps powered by SilverLight

Hi All:

See the beta Bing maps powered by Silverlight. It should immediately put you
in your home town:

http://www.bing.com/maps/explore

...all sorts of bells and whistles.

Jim


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec  4 03:17:36 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:17:36 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] An energy self contained island
Message-ID: <sb18e1ce.096@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Yes, interesting story. 
I've added a couple of links for more info.

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 03-12-2009 21:55 >>>
A small Danish island becomes the first self contained energy sufficent spot on earth.

http://www.smartplanet.com/business/blog/smart-takes/danish-island-becomes-one-of-first-places-on-earth-to-be-energy-self-sufficient/2443

Jim




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec  4 04:35:13 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:35:13 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
Message-ID: <sb18f41b.002@cactus.dk>

Hi all

I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the small screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading e-mails?

The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800 MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?

/gustav




From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 06:41:20 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:41:20 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
In-Reply-To: <sb18f41b.002@cactus.dk>
References: <sb18f41b.002@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912040441w5a35d76bn576bdf9e027b638b@mail.gmail.com>

We recently had a thread on the OT list that touched on that subject
and someone, I know who it is but won't name names since I haven't
asked his permission, commented that he has an HP Netbook on which he
runs Office 2003 and Visual Studio 2008 and SQL Server Express and
they run at an acceptable level of performance to him. Hopefully he
will reply here with some more details. He mentioned the screen size
being an issue and that he connects to an external monitor with it to
get around that problem when he needs more screen space. I think it
might someone depend on what you are used to and what you find
acceptable for performance.

Prior to reading that post there I was thinking that they were only
good for browsing etc. My company has one Senior manager that uses a
Netbook and he has had issues several times with not being able to
open some large spreadsheets. He does work with some REALLY LARGE
spreadsheets though.

GK

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the small screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading e-mails?
>
> The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800 MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
> But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?
>
> /gustav
>
>
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>



-- 
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garykjos at gmail.com


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec  4 07:06:40 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:06:40 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
Message-ID: <sb191792.008@cactus.dk>

Thanks Gary!

/gustav


>>> garykjos at gmail.com 04-12-2009 13:41 >>>
We recently had a thread on the OT list that touched on that subject
and someone, I know who it is but won't name names since I haven't
asked his permission, commented that he has an HP Netbook on which he
runs Office 2003 and Visual Studio 2008 and SQL Server Express and
they run at an acceptable level of performance to him. Hopefully he
will reply here with some more details. He mentioned the screen size
being an issue and that he connects to an external monitor with it to
get around that problem when he needs more screen space. I think it
might someone depend on what you are used to and what you find
acceptable for performance.

Prior to reading that post there I was thinking that they were only
good for browsing etc. My company has one Senior manager that uses a
Netbook and he has had issues several times with not being able to
open some large spreadsheets. He does work with some REALLY LARGE
spreadsheets though.

GK

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the small screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading e-mails?
>
> The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800 MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
> But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?
>
> /gustav




From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Dec  4 10:42:44 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:42:44 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912040441w5a35d76bn576bdf9e027b638b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sb18f41b.002@cactus.dk>
	<aea6c4950912040441w5a35d76bn576bdf9e027b638b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B2CCB9C9C754007B286AFD82BB8951D@creativesystemdesigns.com>

I have a friend whose daughter who uses a netbooks for doing her
'cartooning'. She carries it around with her school books and when she has a
few moments uses a platic tip pen and switches the screen to tablet mode and
does some sketching... she is very talented.

In relationship to the ipod the computer is huge and it can runs apps the
ipods can not. It connectes to wireless so you're never out of touch, holds
a  massive amounts of tunes... great for tweeter fans etc. It can even run
Picassa and download pictures from the camera. I believe you can get these
computers with up to 2 GB of RAM and that should be more than enough for any
program.

I think its one big draw back is it is for 'young eyes' but it sure is a lot
easier to pack around than a laptop.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:41 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?

We recently had a thread on the OT list that touched on that subject
and someone, I know who it is but won't name names since I haven't
asked his permission, commented that he has an HP Netbook on which he
runs Office 2003 and Visual Studio 2008 and SQL Server Express and
they run at an acceptable level of performance to him. Hopefully he
will reply here with some more details. He mentioned the screen size
being an issue and that he connects to an external monitor with it to
get around that problem when he needs more screen space. I think it
might someone depend on what you are used to and what you find
acceptable for performance.

Prior to reading that post there I was thinking that they were only
good for browsing etc. My company has one Senior manager that uses a
Netbook and he has had issues several times with not being able to
open some large spreadsheets. He does work with some REALLY LARGE
spreadsheets though.

GK

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom
processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the small
screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading
e-mails?
>
> The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800
MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my
slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
> But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Dec  4 10:46:02 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:46:02 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] An energy self contained island
In-Reply-To: <sb18e1ce.096@cactus.dk>
References: <sb18e1ce.096@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <73391AB522C24C2FA22743BAB0DC6ADF@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Gustav:

Where are the extra links?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:18 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] An energy self contained island

Hi Jim

Yes, interesting story. 
I've added a couple of links for more info.

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 03-12-2009 21:55 >>>
A small Danish island becomes the first self contained energy sufficent spot
on earth.

http://www.smartplanet.com/business/blog/smart-takes/danish-island-becomes-o
ne-of-first-places-on-earth-to-be-energy-self-sufficient/2443

Jim


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec  4 10:51:35 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:51:35 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] An energy self contained island
Message-ID: <sb194c44.015@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

On the blog!

But here they are as well:

http://sustainablecities.dk/en/city-projects/cases/samsoe-a-role-model-in-self-sufficiency 

Sams? Energy Academy:
http://energiakademiet.dk/default_uk.asp 

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 04-12-2009 17:46 >>>
Hi Gustav:

Where are the extra links?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:18 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] An energy self contained island

Hi Jim

Yes, interesting story. 
I've added a couple of links for more info.

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 03-12-2009 21:55 >>>
A small Danish island becomes the first self contained energy sufficent spot on earth.

http://www.smartplanet.com/business/blog/smart-takes/danish-island-becomes-one-of-first-places-on-earth-to-be-energy-self-sufficient/2443

Jim




From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 12:23:27 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:23:27 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word mail merge with Outlook contacts
Message-ID: <47F834B4A8334F7A9A9AAFB1EABE7AA8@SusanOne>

A reader uses Word Mail Merge Wizard with Outlook's Contacts. The wizard 
gives you the opportunity to filter and sort the Outlook Contacts by almost 
every field except Categories and that's the one he needs to sort by.

Any help?

Susan H. 



From kathryn at bassett.net  Fri Dec  4 13:02:58 2009
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:02:58 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word mail merge with Outlook contacts
In-Reply-To: <47F834B4A8334F7A9A9AAFB1EABE7AA8@SusanOne>
References: <47F834B4A8334F7A9A9AAFB1EABE7AA8@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <005101ca7514$658cc340$30a649c0$@net>

Susan asked:
> A reader uses Word Mail Merge Wizard with Outlook's Contacts. The wizard
> gives you the opportunity to filter and sort the Outlook Contacts by
almost
> every field except Categories and that's the one he needs to sort by.

Give the reader this link:
http://www.bassett.net/storage/mergeproblem/mergeproblem.htm 
The key is to make the contact view first, including sorting by the fields
there.


--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net?? 





From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 13:59:40 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:59:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Pictures and PowerPoint
Message-ID: <70BF02445B684FA6987ACBA67596ACCF@SusanOne>

Can you insert a picture into an AutoShape? I've been trying, and reviewed 
help.

Susan  H. 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Dec  4 15:21:39 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:21:39 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Pictures and PowerPoint
In-Reply-To: <70BF02445B684FA6987ACBA67596ACCF@SusanOne>
References: <70BF02445B684FA6987ACBA67596ACCF@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B197D63.23519.119EF69A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

IN 2003.


Create the Autoshape.

Right click on it and select Format Autoshape.
On the Colors and Lines tab, pull down the Fill - Color combobox and select Fill Effects.
Click on the Picture tab.
Select your picture.

Voila!

-- 
Stuart

On 4 Dec 2009 at 14:59, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Can you insert a picture into an AutoShape? I've been trying, and reviewed 
> help.
> 
> Susan  H. 
> 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Dec  5 11:57:09 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:57:09 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
Message-ID: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>

I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook.  She was advised to
partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C
partition, and user data goes into the D partition.

But where do you install the applications?

And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?

Thanks!
Dan




From garykjos at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 14:25:19 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:25:19 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912051225j1302cb09wdd818e20e3d0d313@mail.gmail.com>

I believe that the software would also go into the C: drive in this
scenario. D: would be for user data  The main advantage would be from
an ease of backup perspective. You back up the D drive where your data
is stored frequently. You don't need to back up the C drive since you
have the original software distribution media.

GK

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook. ?She was advised to
> partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C
> partition, and user data goes into the D partition.
>
> But where do you install the applications?
>
> And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Dec  5 15:37:49 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:37:49 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
Message-ID: <sb1ae0cd.026@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Thanks. Yes, I've noticed that many comes with 2 GB of ram and a decent screen, though small. But given the size and the runtime per battery charge I imagine you might carry it with you at occasions where you normally would not.

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 04-12-2009 17:42:44 >>>
I have a friend whose daughter who uses a netbooks for doing her
'cartooning'. She carries it around with her school books and when she has a
few moments uses a platic tip pen and switches the screen to tablet mode and
does some sketching... she is very talented.

In relationship to the ipod the computer is huge and it can runs apps the
ipods can not. It connectes to wireless so you're never out of touch, holds
a  massive amounts of tunes... great for tweeter fans etc. It can even run
Picassa and download pictures from the camera. I believe you can get these
computers with up to 2 GB of RAM and that should be more than enough for any
program.

I think its one big draw back is it is for 'young eyes' but it sure is a lot
easier to pack around than a laptop.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:41 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?

We recently had a thread on the OT list that touched on that subject
and someone, I know who it is but won't name names since I haven't
asked his permission, commented that he has an HP Netbook on which he
runs Office 2003 and Visual Studio 2008 and SQL Server Express and
they run at an acceptable level of performance to him. Hopefully he
will reply here with some more details. He mentioned the screen size
being an issue and that he connects to an external monitor with it to
get around that problem when he needs more screen space. I think it
might someone depend on what you are used to and what you find
acceptable for performance.

Prior to reading that post there I was thinking that they were only
good for browsing etc. My company has one Senior manager that uses a
Netbook and he has had issues several times with not being able to
open some large spreadsheets. He does work with some REALLY LARGE
spreadsheets though.

GK

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom
processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the small
screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading
e-mails?
>
> The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800
MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my
slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
> But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?
>
> /gustav




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Dec  5 16:24:52 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:24:52 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912051225j1302cb09wdd818e20e3d0d313@mail.gmail.com>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>
	<aea6c4950912051225j1302cb09wdd818e20e3d0d313@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C65D3A4F6E5843A794B383B31BD992A2@HAL9005>

Lately I've seen the D: partition holding the restore stuff - IOW, you can
restore your machine to its out of the box .
condition with the stuff that's on D:.  Like you used to do with the restore
disks that came with every machine.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

I believe that the software would also go into the C: drive in this
scenario. D: would be for user data  The main advantage would be from an
ease of backup perspective. You back up the D drive where your data is
stored frequently. You don't need to back up the C drive since you have the
original software distribution media.

GK

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook. ?She was advised 
> to partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C 
> partition, and user data goes into the D partition.
>
> But where do you install the applications?
>
> And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



--
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Dec  5 16:42:04 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:42:04 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <C65D3A4F6E5843A794B383B31BD992A2@HAL9005>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>,
	<aea6c4950912051225j1302cb09wdd818e20e3d0d313@mail.gmail.com>,
	<C65D3A4F6E5843A794B383B31BD992A2@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4B1AE1BC.5565.170EF34C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Which is of no use at all if your disk crashes since both partitions are on the same physical 
disk.

And since all your settings ie the "user" tree goes on C and since this is the default location 
for just about everything, you do need to back up C regularly as well.

About the only advantage that I can see is that you can back up each drive alternately 
thereby taking half the time and half the backup media space  each time you do a backup.


-- 
Stuart

On 5 Dec 2009 at 14:24, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Lately I've seen the D: partition holding the restore stuff - IOW, you can
> restore your machine to its out of the box .
> condition with the stuff that's on D:.  Like you used to do with the restore
> disks that came with every machine.
> 
> R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:25 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
> 
> I believe that the software would also go into the C: drive in this
> scenario. D: would be for user data  The main advantage would be from an
> ease of backup perspective. You back up the D drive where your data is
> stored frequently. You don't need to back up the C drive since you have the
> original software distribution media.
> 
> GK
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> > I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook. ?She was advised 
> > to partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C 
> > partition, and user data goes into the D partition.
> >
> > But where do you install the applications?
> >
> > And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
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> 





From bgeldart at verizon.net  Sat Dec  5 18:47:51 2009
From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:47:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <4B1AE1BC.5565.170EF34C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>
	<aea6c4950912051225j1302cb09wdd818e20e3d0d313@mail.gmail.com>
	<C65D3A4F6E5843A794B383B31BD992A2@HAL9005>
	<4B1AE1BC.5565.170EF34C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0KU700LH9HONOKVE@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>

FWIW,

I used to have two internal drives--one for programs, one for 
data--and backed up each one to a folder in the other.

I've now got a PC with a 750G HDD, and a SATA HDD docking station 
(toaster), kind of like an external drive. I have a 500G that gets 
cloned once a month via the docking station and Acronis. Once a week, 
I back up the data to another drive in the docking station. By having 
the drives externally, they aren't draining the PC power 
continuously, nor wearing  out prematurely. Works well for me.

I have a netbook that I just use on trips and to carry some apps I 
can work on away from home. Gets sync'd to the PC when I'm home, so 
the PC is the backup for the netbook.

Bob

At 12/5/2009 05:42 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>Which is of no use at all if your disk crashes since both partitions 
>are on the same physical
>disk.
>
>And since all your settings ie the "user" tree goes on C and since 
>this is the default location
>for just about everything, you do need to back up C regularly as well.
>
>About the only advantage that I can see is that you can back up each 
>drive alternately
>thereby taking half the time and half the backup media space  each 
>time you do a backup.
>
>
>--
>Stuart
>
>On 5 Dec 2009 at 14:24, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>
> > Lately I've seen the D: partition holding the restore stuff - IOW, you can
> > restore your machine to its out of the box .
> > condition with the stuff that's on D:.  Like you used to do with 
> the restore
> > disks that came with every machine.
> >
> > R
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:25 PM
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
> >
> > I believe that the software would also go into the C: drive in this
> > scenario. D: would be for user data  The main advantage would be from an
> > ease of backup perspective. You back up the D drive where your data is
> > stored frequently. You don't need to back up the C drive since you have the
> > original software distribution media.
> >
> > GK
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> > > I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook.  She was advised
> > > to partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C
> > > partition, and user data goes into the D partition.
> > >
> > > But where do you install the applications?
> > >
> > > And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gary Kjos
> > garykjos at gmail.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>
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Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA  

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Dec  6 03:22:51 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 01:22:51 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <0KU700LH9HONOKVE@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>
	<aea6c4950912051225j1302cb09wdd818e20e3d0d313@mail.gmail.com>
	<C65D3A4F6E5843A794B383B31BD992A2@HAL9005>
	<4B1AE1BC.5565.170EF34C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<0KU700LH9HONOKVE@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <5D4E5EBAD5294419861082DD88F25BBA@creativesystemdesigns.com>

That's is a really good configuration.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Geldart
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:48 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Cc: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

FWIW,

I used to have two internal drives--one for programs, one for 
data--and backed up each one to a folder in the other.

I've now got a PC with a 750G HDD, and a SATA HDD docking station 
(toaster), kind of like an external drive. I have a 500G that gets 
cloned once a month via the docking station and Acronis. Once a week, 
I back up the data to another drive in the docking station. By having 
the drives externally, they aren't draining the PC power 
continuously, nor wearing  out prematurely. Works well for me.

I have a netbook that I just use on trips and to carry some apps I 
can work on away from home. Gets sync'd to the PC when I'm home, so 
the PC is the backup for the netbook.

Bob

At 12/5/2009 05:42 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>Which is of no use at all if your disk crashes since both partitions 
>are on the same physical
>disk.
>
>And since all your settings ie the "user" tree goes on C and since 
>this is the default location
>for just about everything, you do need to back up C regularly as well.
>
>About the only advantage that I can see is that you can back up each 
>drive alternately
>thereby taking half the time and half the backup media space  each 
>time you do a backup.
>
>
>--
>Stuart
>
>On 5 Dec 2009 at 14:24, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>
> > Lately I've seen the D: partition holding the restore stuff - IOW, you
can
> > restore your machine to its out of the box .
> > condition with the stuff that's on D:.  Like you used to do with 
> the restore
> > disks that came with every machine.
> >
> > R
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:25 PM
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
> >
> > I believe that the software would also go into the C: drive in this
> > scenario. D: would be for user data  The main advantage would be from an
> > ease of backup perspective. You back up the D drive where your data is
> > stored frequently. You don't need to back up the C drive since you have
the
> > original software distribution media.
> >
> > GK
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com>
wrote:
> > > I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook.  She was advised
> > > to partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C
> > > partition, and user data goes into the D partition.
> > >
> > > But where do you install the applications?
> > >
> > > And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gary Kjos
> > garykjos at gmail.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 11:04:18 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:04:18 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint
Message-ID: <6C5C54D901D146CB8D6AAEEE4A078CDE@SusanOne>

I've created a short PowerPoint presentation on attracting butterflies for a 
Master Gardener class that I'm taking. The one thing it's missing is flying 
butterflies. I just don't have the expertise to do something like that. I've 
found several on line, but they're all too cutsy and childish. I want 
something pretty and understated.

If any of you already have something like that and you wouldn't mind letting 
me use it, you'll receive full credits in the end slide where I'm crediting 
photos.

I don't really have to have this -- presentation is pretty good just as it 
is, but I thought how cool it would be to just an occasional butterfly flit 
around for a second or maybe just flap its wings.

Susan H. 



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Dec  6 11:26:15 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:26:15 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint
In-Reply-To: <6C5C54D901D146CB8D6AAEEE4A078CDE@SusanOne>
References: <6C5C54D901D146CB8D6AAEEE4A078CDE@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <20020A8A6458490FAD856E5AE99933D6@danwaters>

Hi Susan,

I just did a search for butterflies on Google, and then selected Images.
There are a lot to choose from - and they definitely look good!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:04 AM
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint

I've created a short PowerPoint presentation on attracting butterflies for a

Master Gardener class that I'm taking. The one thing it's missing is flying 
butterflies. I just don't have the expertise to do something like that. I've

found several on line, but they're all too cutsy and childish. I want 
something pretty and understated.

If any of you already have something like that and you wouldn't mind letting

me use it, you'll receive full credits in the end slide where I'm crediting 
photos.

I don't really have to have this -- presentation is pretty good just as it 
is, but I thought how cool it would be to just an occasional butterfly flit 
around for a second or maybe just flap its wings.

Susan H. 

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Dec  6 11:27:33 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:27:33 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>
Message-ID: <2FDCFC0FD54949E8809608315612BB73@danwaters>

To Gary, Rocky, Stuart, Bob, and Jim,

No D for me please!

Thanks!  
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook.  She was advised to
partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C
partition, and user data goes into the D partition.

But where do you install the applications?

And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?

Thanks!
Dan


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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 15:09:00 2009
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:09:00 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
In-Reply-To: <sb18f41b.002@cactus.dk>
References: <sb18f41b.002@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <c7fd28d00912061309o50213c3an8958bc639d2c1b1e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Gustav,

I have an Asus and it is great for my 10 year old to play patience, but the
screen is not good enough even for gmail, useless for anything else.

My wife and daughter love it though and one a month, I can check my email on
it.

Thanks

Mark



2009/12/4 Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>

> Hi all
>
> I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom
> processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the small
> screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading
> e-mails?
>
> The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800
> MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my
> slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
> But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Dec  6 15:32:49 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:32:49 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
Message-ID: <sb1c3121.028@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

I noticed that Asus has a model with a 7" screen - to me that is comparable to a mobile phone. It's priced here at ~USD 200 so you get what you pay for.
Most machines, however, have a 10" screen which is tiny but acceptable for some but not all serious tasks.

/gustav


>>> marklbreen at gmail.com 06-12-2009 22:09 >>>
Hello Gustav,

I have an Asus and it is great for my 10 year old to play patience, but the
screen is not good enough even for gmail, useless for anything else.

My wife and daughter love it though and one a month, I can check my email on it.

Thanks

Mark



2009/12/4 Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>

> Hi all
>
> I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom
> processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the small
> screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading
> e-mails?
>
> The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800
> MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my
> slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
> But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?
>
> /gustav




From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 15:44:00 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:44:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint
References: <6C5C54D901D146CB8D6AAEEE4A078CDE@SusanOne>
	<20020A8A6458490FAD856E5AE99933D6@danwaters>
Message-ID: <128666DBD2314FF2B7F2FD07A90147D1@SusanOne>

Dan, that's where I started, but there's very little that's animated that 
doesn't look like it belongs on a 4 year old's purse. :)

Susan H.


> Hi Susan,
>
> I just did a search for butterflies on Google, and then selected Images.
> There are a lot to choose from - and they definitely look good!
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:04 AM
> To: DBA Tech List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint
>
> I've created a short PowerPoint presentation on attracting butterflies for 
> a
>
> Master Gardener class that I'm taking. The one thing it's missing is 
> flying
> butterflies. I just don't have the expertise to do something like that. 
> I've
>
> found several on line, but they're all too cutsy and childish. I want
> something pretty and understated.
>
> If any of you already have something like that and you wouldn't mind 
> letting
>
> me use it, you'll receive full credits in the end slide where I'm 
> crediting
> photos.
>
> I don't really have to have this -- presentation is pretty good just as it
> is, but I thought how cool it would be to just an occasional butterfly 
> flit
> around for a second or maybe just flap its wings.
>
> Susan H.
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 20:30:20 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:30:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] A PowerPoint question on timing slides
Message-ID: <1E41CA775AD84F558433BDCFBDA501A7@SusanOne>

I'm working on a presentation that is self-running. However, I want a viewer 
to be able to click and advance slides at will as well. In the Advance Slide 
setting in the Slide Transition Task Pane, I've checked both On Mouse Click 
and Automatically After -- and applied a time setting for the latter.

To me, that should do both -- advance automatically while also advancing if 
the mouse is clicked. However, it ignores the mouse.

Is there a setting someplace that inhibits this setting?

Susan H. 



From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 21:25:27 2009
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff B)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:25:27 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] A PowerPoint question on timing slides
In-Reply-To: <1E41CA775AD84F558433BDCFBDA501A7@SusanOne>
References: <1E41CA775AD84F558433BDCFBDA501A7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4b1c7550.5644f10a.6430.ffffd52c@mx.google.com>

Did you click on 'apply to all'?

Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
?
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff.developer at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:30 PM
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] A PowerPoint question on timing slides

I'm working on a presentation that is self-running. However, I want a viewer

to be able to click and advance slides at will as well. In the Advance Slide

setting in the Slide Transition Task Pane, I've checked both On Mouse Click 
and Automatically After -- and applied a time setting for the latter.

To me, that should do both -- advance automatically while also advancing if 
the mouse is clicked. However, it ignores the mouse.

Is there a setting someplace that inhibits this setting?

Susan H. 

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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 02:56:20 2009
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:56:20 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
In-Reply-To: <sb1c3121.028@cactus.dk>
References: <sb1c3121.028@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <c7fd28d00912070056g502f49e3kf7056a1f9b461432@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Gustav,

Yes, it is very small, and not just that, it is also running Linux, which
adds a little interest to the household computers, and it is white, which
also adds some interest for the ladies here.

The kids love it, and it just lays around the house, like a calculator would
lay around, this is what I like about it, and I paid ?100 for it, which is
also a great price, if we spill coffee into it, no problem.

I do not have a 10" screen here, but I would prefer to read a technical
journal or even read up on the website of linqpad, rather than attempt to
develop on a small machine.

let us know what you decide on and how you get on.

Of Course, virtual PC-ing into another machine is a really great hybrid
option, where you get the best of most of your hardware platform,

Thanks

Mark





2009/12/6 Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>

> Hi Mark
>
> I noticed that Asus has a model with a 7" screen - to me that is comparable
> to a mobile phone. It's priced here at ~USD 200 so you get what you pay for.
> Most machines, however, have a 10" screen which is tiny but acceptable for
> some but not all serious tasks.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 06-12-2009 22:09 >>>
> Hello Gustav,
>
> I have an Asus and it is great for my 10 year old to play patience, but the
> screen is not good enough even for gmail, useless for anything else.
>
> My wife and daughter love it though and one a month, I can check my email
> on it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> 2009/12/4 Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom
> > processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the
> small
> > screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading
> > e-mails?
> >
> > The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800
> > MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my
> > slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
> > But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?
> >
> > /gustav
>
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Mon Dec  7 08:05:37 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:05:37 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <2FDCFC0FD54949E8809608315612BB73@danwaters>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters>
	<2FDCFC0FD54949E8809608315612BB73@danwaters>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF767@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Too bad. 

I've been partitioning my boot drive like this for years. Most recent case where is saved by rear end was when I allowed Windows XP SP3 to install itself a while back. The result was a system that would not boot at all. Fortunately I use DriveImage XML to backup the entire boot partition from time to time. So I was able to get the machine back in action is 30 minutes by restoring a pre-SP3 image. Because the C partition only contains programs I lost nothing. I don't even have my My Documents folder on the boot drive for this kind of reason.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:28 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

To Gary, Rocky, Stuart, Bob, and Jim,

No D for me please!

Thanks!  
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook.  She was advised to partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C partition, and user data goes into the D partition.

But where do you install the applications?

And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?

Thanks!
Dan


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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 08:17:22 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:17:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] A PowerPoint question on timing slides
References: <1E41CA775AD84F558433BDCFBDA501A7@SusanOne>
	<4b1c7550.5644f10a.6430.ffffd52c@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <693B649CD4D44AEA9C9012F88214B2F2@SusanOne>

No, didn't think I needed to, I've run though each slide, and both settings 
are checked for all slides, but I'll take a look at that.

Thanks!
Susan H.

Did you click on 'apply to all'?

Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Dec  7 08:54:55 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:54:55 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF767@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters><2FDCFC0FD54949E8809608315612BB73@danwaters>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF767@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <87E9A05FE4664BB8B78333FF11AB262D@danwaters>

Hi Lambert,

If you have a recent image of the C partition on the D partition, how do you
use that to restore you PC to working condition?

This sounds like a good use of a D partition, but I don't know how to
restore from an image.

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:06 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

Too bad. 

I've been partitioning my boot drive like this for years. Most recent case
where is saved by rear end was when I allowed Windows XP SP3 to install
itself a while back. The result was a system that would not boot at all.
Fortunately I use DriveImage XML to backup the entire boot partition from
time to time. So I was able to get the machine back in action is 30 minutes
by restoring a pre-SP3 image. Because the C partition only contains programs
I lost nothing. I don't even have my My Documents folder on the boot drive
for this kind of reason.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:28 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

To Gary, Rocky, Stuart, Bob, and Jim,

No D for me please!

Thanks!  
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook.  She was advised to
partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C
partition, and user data goes into the D partition.

But where do you install the applications?

And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?

Thanks!
Dan


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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Mon Dec  7 09:08:15 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:08:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <87E9A05FE4664BB8B78333FF11AB262D@danwaters>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters><2FDCFC0FD54949E8809608315612BB73@danwaters>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF767@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<87E9A05FE4664BB8B78333FF11AB262D@danwaters>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF7A1@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Sorry. Did not make myself clear. 

As it happens I store the images on an external drive, but I could equally well use the D partition for the image storage. However that is not ideal as with an actual drive death (head crash or whatever) the D partition would be inaccessible also. So an external drive is what I use. I assess that using a bootable CD which has BartPE and DriveImage XLM on it.

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ <= BartPE
http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm

The D partition is simply used for data and it has its own backup process which does not involve any image software. I use BackUp4All for my general purpose, scheduled backups.
http://www.backup4all.com/


Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

Hi Lambert,

If you have a recent image of the C partition on the D partition, how do you use that to restore you PC to working condition?

This sounds like a good use of a D partition, but I don't know how to restore from an image.

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:06 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

Too bad. 

I've been partitioning my boot drive like this for years. Most recent case where is saved by rear end was when I allowed Windows XP SP3 to install itself a while back. The result was a system that would not boot at all.
Fortunately I use DriveImage XML to backup the entire boot partition from time to time. So I was able to get the machine back in action is 30 minutes by restoring a pre-SP3 image. Because the C partition only contains programs I lost nothing. I don't even have my My Documents folder on the boot drive for this kind of reason.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:28 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

To Gary, Rocky, Stuart, Bob, and Jim,

No D for me please!

Thanks!  
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

I have a friend who just got a new Samsung netbook.  She was advised to partition the disk into C and D, where the OS (W7) goes into the C partition, and user data goes into the D partition.

But where do you install the applications?

And what is the actual value of using a C and a D partition?

Thanks!
Dan


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Dec  7 09:47:15 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:47:15 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF7A1@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <261E8B82F56849B4BD607E3C56B6BAE4@danwaters><2FDCFC0FD54949E8809608315612BB73@danwaters><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF767@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><87E9A05FE4664BB8B78333FF11AB262D@danwaters>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF7A1@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <238AA137E6794ACE93A0FFF8BA2A34FE@danwaters>

I understand!

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:08 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

Sorry. Did not make myself clear. 

As it happens I store the images on an external drive, but I could equally
well use the D partition for the image storage. However that is not ideal as
with an actual drive death (head crash or whatever) the D partition would be
inaccessible also. So an external drive is what I use. I assess that using a
bootable CD which has BartPE and DriveImage XLM on it.

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ <= BartPE
http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm

The D partition is simply used for data and it has its own backup process
which does not involve any image software. I use BackUp4All for my general
purpose, scheduled backups.
http://www.backup4all.com/


Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C & D Partitions

Hi Lambert,

If you have a recent image of the C partition on the D partition, how do you
use that to restore you PC to working condition?

This sounds like a good use of a D partition, but I don't know how to
restore from an image.

Thanks!
Dan




From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 10:34:51 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:34:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] A PowerPoint question on timing slides
References: <1E41CA775AD84F558433BDCFBDA501A7@SusanOne>
	<4b1c7550.5644f10a.6430.ffffd52c@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <9A915C071BA540DE860D88608CDD8385@SusanOne>

Doesn't seem to matter -- mouse click doesn't work! :(

Susan H.


Did you click on 'apply to all'?

I'm working on a presentation that is self-running. However, I want a viewer

to be able to click and advance slides at will as well. In the Advance Slide

setting in the Slide Transition Task Pane, I've checked both On Mouse Click
and Automatically After -- and applied a time setting for the latter.

To me, that should do both -- advance automatically while also advancing if
the mouse is clicked. However, it ignores the mouse.

Is there a setting someplace that inhibits this setting?

Susan H.

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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 10:56:51 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:56:51 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] A PowerPoint question on timing slides
In-Reply-To: <9A915C071BA540DE860D88608CDD8385@SusanOne>
References: <1E41CA775AD84F558433BDCFBDA501A7@SusanOne>	<4b1c7550.5644f10a.6430.ffffd52c@mx.google.com>
	<9A915C071BA540DE860D88608CDD8385@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4b1d33e2.1c07d00a.3651.6003@mx.google.com>

It works as expected in 2007 but I couldn't get it to work in 2003 - bug?

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 07 December 2009 16:35
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A PowerPoint question on timing slides

Doesn't seem to matter -- mouse click doesn't work! :(

Susan H.


Did you click on 'apply to all'?

I'm working on a presentation that is self-running. However, I want a viewer

to be able to click and advance slides at will as well. In the Advance Slide

setting in the Slide Transition Task Pane, I've checked both On Mouse Click
and Automatically After -- and applied a time setting for the latter.

To me, that should do both -- advance automatically while also advancing if
the mouse is clicked. However, it ignores the mouse.

Is there a setting someplace that inhibits this setting?

Susan H.

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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 01:54:32 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:54:32 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
In-Reply-To: <sb194c44.015@cactus.dk>
References: <sb194c44.015@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4b1e0644.0e67f10a.564c.ffffe056@mx.google.com>

OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux

Can anybody find me a good THIN sql client for Linux I need to find one in
the next day, I am stuck on an escalation and we really need this. So any
help appreciated.

Thanks

Max




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Dec  8 02:12:04 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:12:04 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
Message-ID: <sb1e1881.065@cactus.dk>

Hi Max

Not much, eh, info you provide, but you could start with some running in Java:

http://java-source.net/open-source/sql-clients 

/gustav

>>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 08-12-2009 08:54 >>>
OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux

Can anybody find me a good THIN sql client for Linux I need to find one in
the next day, I am stuck on an escalation and we really need this. So any
help appreciated.

Thanks

Max




From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 05:56:09 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 05:56:09 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912040441w5a35d76bn576bdf9e027b638b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sb18f41b.002@cactus.dk>
	<aea6c4950912040441w5a35d76bn576bdf9e027b638b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912080356s2a7cdc30t847c8497d2b0d4cf@mail.gmail.com>

Doug said I could repost his message from the OT thread I mentioned.
So here is Doug Steele's recent post regarding his experience with a
Netbook system......

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have an HP110 Mini netbook, and I really like it - it is SO small and
handy.  On it I have installed Office 2003 (with Access), SQL Server
Express, Visual Studio 2008 Pro, Windows 7.  They all run acceptably.  I
upgraded from 1gb RAM to 2gb but that hasn't really made much of a
difference, much to my surprise.  I also have a 4gb SD card permanently set
up for caching.

Serious development work is possible, but only if I'm plugged into a 17"
monitor.  The small keyboard is a bit of a learning experience.

For the road, though, it's fantastic.  Much easier to read pdfs or watch
movies than on my iPhone. Battery life is acceptable (around 4 hours); if I
was going on a trip I'd invest in the double size battery pack.

Doug Steele

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> We recently had a thread on the OT list that touched on that subject
> and someone, I know who it is but won't name names since I haven't
> asked his permission, commented that he has an HP Netbook on which he
> runs Office 2003 and Visual Studio 2008 and SQL Server Express and
> they run at an acceptable level of performance to him. Hopefully he
> will reply here with some more details. He mentioned the screen size
> being an issue and that he connects to an external monitor with it to
> get around that problem when he needs more screen space. I think it
> might someone depend on what you are used to and what you find
> acceptable for performance.
>
> Prior to reading that post there I was thinking that they were only
> good for browsing etc. My company has one Senior manager that uses a
> Netbook and he has had issues several times with not being able to
> open some large spreadsheets. He does work with some REALLY LARGE
> spreadsheets though.
>
> GK
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the small screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading e-mails?
>>
>> The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800 MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
>> But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
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> garykjos at gmail.com
>



-- 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Dec  8 06:08:08 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:08:08 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] How fast is Atom processor?
Message-ID: <sb1e4fc6.076@cactus.dk>

Thanks Gary! I'm seeing a picture now.

/gustav


>>> garykjos at gmail.com 08-12-2009 12:56 >>>
Doug said I could repost his message from the OT thread I mentioned.
So here is Doug Steele's recent post regarding his experience with a
Netbook system......

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have an HP110 Mini netbook, and I really like it - it is SO small and
handy.  On it I have installed Office 2003 (with Access), SQL Server
Express, Visual Studio 2008 Pro, Windows 7.  They all run acceptably.  I
upgraded from 1gb RAM to 2gb but that hasn't really made much of a
difference, much to my surprise.  I also have a 4gb SD card permanently set
up for caching.

Serious development work is possible, but only if I'm plugged into a 17"
monitor.  The small keyboard is a bit of a learning experience.

For the road, though, it's fantastic.  Much easier to read pdfs or watch
movies than on my iPhone. Battery life is acceptable (around 4 hours); if I
was going on a trip I'd invest in the double size battery pack.

Doug Steele

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> We recently had a thread on the OT list that touched on that subject
> and someone, I know who it is but won't name names since I haven't
> asked his permission, commented that he has an HP Netbook on which he
> runs Office 2003 and Visual Studio 2008 and SQL Server Express and
> they run at an acceptable level of performance to him. Hopefully he
> will reply here with some more details. He mentioned the screen size
> being an issue and that he connects to an external monitor with it to
> get around that problem when he needs more screen space. I think it
> might someone depend on what you are used to and what you find
> acceptable for performance.
>
> Prior to reading that post there I was thinking that they were only
> good for browsing etc. My company has one Senior manager that uses a
> Netbook and he has had issues several times with not being able to
> open some large spreadsheets. He does work with some REALLY LARGE
> spreadsheets though.
>
> GK
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm wondering if the small and cheap netbook machines with an Atom processor are useful for any kind of development work? Respecting the small screen of course. Or are they just toys for browsing the web and reading e-mails?
>>
>> The info to locate tells similar stories, that it is comparable to an 800 MHz/1 GHz 130 nm Pentium-M. That doesn't sound impressive compared to my slowest workstation with Pentium 4, 2.2 GHz.
>> But do any of you have any practical experience with these machines?
>>
>> /gustav




From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 07:04:44 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:04:44 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
In-Reply-To: <sb1e1881.065@cactus.dk>
References: <sb1e1881.065@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <cda8f54e0912080504t716e6779t436311b0d65e50d@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, sorry about that Gustav, It is actually my son who asked me to
post this and I am not familiar with his project, but apparently he
needs it as ODBC and not JDBC resolution.

Thanks Gustav,

Max


On 08/12/2009, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Max
>
> Not much, eh, info you provide, but you could start with some running in
> Java:
>
> http://java-source.net/open-source/sql-clients
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 08-12-2009 08:54 >>>
> OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
>
> Can anybody find me a good THIN sql client for Linux I need to find one in
> the next day, I am stuck on an escalation and we really need this. So any
> help appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Max
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Dec  8 07:33:37 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:33:37 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
Message-ID: <sb1e63d7.078@cactus.dk>

Hi Max

So wouldn't this be the time where you as the wise father teach him about Google? And to describe in a proper way what he his is doing and looking for - an ODBC driver is not for every database engine but for one only, so which one? And what does "thin" mean? I've never heard about fat ODBC clients. Fast or slow perhaps, or more or less buggy, but often you should just be happy if one exists for your engine.

I'm not up-to-date on this. But a google on ODBC on Linux reveals a bunch of links. One good place to start could be here:

http://www.easysoft.com/products/data_access/odbc-sql-server-driver/getting-started.html 

/gustav

>>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 08-12-2009 14:04 >>>
Yes, sorry about that Gustav, It is actually my son who asked me to
post this and I am not familiar with his project, but apparently he
needs it as ODBC and not JDBC resolution.

Thanks Gustav,

Max


On 08/12/2009, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Max
>
> Not much, eh, info you provide, but you could start with some running in
> Java:
>
> http://java-source.net/open-source/sql-clients 
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 08-12-2009 08:54 >>>
> OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
>
> Can anybody find me a good THIN sql client for Linux I need to find one in
> the next day, I am stuck on an escalation and we really need this. So any
> help appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Max




From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 09:15:40 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:15:40 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
In-Reply-To: <sb1e63d7.078@cactus.dk>
References: <sb1e63d7.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <cda8f54e0912080715n75f39058wda68e89eebb7a801@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Gustav,

I will be interested to see how he responds <g>

Max


On 08/12/2009, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Max
>
> So wouldn't this be the time where you as the wise father teach him about
> Google? And to describe in a proper way what he his is doing and looking for
> - an ODBC driver is not for every database engine but for one only, so which
> one? And what does "thin" mean? I've never heard about fat ODBC clients.
> Fast or slow perhaps, or more or less buggy, but often you should just be
> happy if one exists for your engine.
>
> I'm not up-to-date on this. But a google on ODBC on Linux reveals a bunch of
> links. One good place to start could be here:
>
> http://www.easysoft.com/products/data_access/odbc-sql-server-driver/getting-started.html
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 08-12-2009 14:04 >>>
> Yes, sorry about that Gustav, It is actually my son who asked me to
> post this and I am not familiar with his project, but apparently he
> needs it as ODBC and not JDBC resolution.
>
> Thanks Gustav,
>
> Max
>
>
> On 08/12/2009, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>> Hi Max
>>
>> Not much, eh, info you provide, but you could start with some running in
>> Java:
>>
>> http://java-source.net/open-source/sql-clients
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>>>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 08-12-2009 08:54 >>>
>> OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
>>
>> Can anybody find me a good THIN sql client for Linux I need to find one in
>> the next day, I am stuck on an escalation and we really need this. So any
>> help appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Max
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Dec  8 10:36:36 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:36:36 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
In-Reply-To: <4b1e0644.0e67f10a.564c.ffffe056@mx.google.com>
References: <sb194c44.015@cactus.dk>
	<4b1e0644.0e67f10a.564c.ffffe056@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <3982655240544C92B9A9593A1863E1FA@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Max:

I am not quite sure what you are asking for but the fastest and smallest
full implementation of a Linux SQL would be SQLite. I have not used it
myself but friends highly recommend it. It can be and is even embedded on
chips. Note: There are dozens of SQL databases that run on Linux in fact the
only major SQL DB that does not run on Linux/Unix is MS SQL.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:55 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux

OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux

Can anybody find me a good THIN sql client for Linux I need to find one in
the next day, I am stuck on an escalation and we really need this. So any
help appreciated.

Thanks

Max


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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 13:11:02 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:11:02 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
In-Reply-To: <3982655240544C92B9A9593A1863E1FA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <sb194c44.015@cactus.dk>	<4b1e0644.0e67f10a.564c.ffffe056@mx.google.com>
	<3982655240544C92B9A9593A1863E1FA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4b1ea4d3.0d67f10a.15b4.ffff8938@mx.google.com>

Thanks very much Jim.
I will pass this  on.
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 08 December 2009 16:37
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux

Hi Max:

I am not quite sure what you are asking for but the fastest and smallest
full implementation of a Linux SQL would be SQLite. I have not used it
myself but friends highly recommend it. It can be and is even embedded on
chips. Note: There are dozens of SQL databases that run on Linux in fact the
only major SQL DB that does not run on Linux/Unix is MS SQL.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:55 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux

OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux

Can anybody find me a good THIN sql client for Linux I need to find one in
the next day, I am stuck on an escalation and we really need this. So any
help appreciated.

Thanks

Max


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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Dec  8 14:22:41 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:22:41 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Windows connection sharing
In-Reply-To: <3982655240544C92B9A9593A1863E1FA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <sb194c44.015@cactus.dk>	<4b1e0644.0e67f10a.564c.ffffe056@mx.google.com>
	<3982655240544C92B9A9593A1863E1FA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <011c01ca7844$313f1f10$93bd5d30$@net>

Does anyone use windows connection sharing for Internet access anymore?

I was wondering if I could use WCS on a PC with a Cellular 3G connection to
access the Internet from another PC via a wireless router. 

Any comments?

John B.



From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 14:31:22 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:31:22 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Windows connection sharing
In-Reply-To: <011c01ca7844$313f1f10$93bd5d30$@net>
References: <sb194c44.015@cactus.dk>	<4b1e0644.0e67f10a.564c.ffffe056@mx.google.com>	<3982655240544C92B9A9593A1863E1FA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<011c01ca7844$313f1f10$93bd5d30$@net>
Message-ID: <4b1eb7af.1c07d00a.6b92.ffff8abc@mx.google.com>

Hi John,
I don't see why not. I have done it via a wired network where the internet
connection was via a uk mobile (read that as a cell phone) but what I could
not do was to set up a web site as dial-ins were not handled over the mobile
connection.

Max


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Sent: 08 December 2009 20:23
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Windows connection sharing

Does anyone use windows connection sharing for Internet access anymore?

I was wondering if I could use WCS on a PC with a Cellular 3G connection to
access the Internet from another PC via a wireless router. 

Any comments?

John B.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Dec  8 15:28:05 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:28:05 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Windows connection sharing
In-Reply-To: <011c01ca7844$313f1f10$93bd5d30$@net>
References: <sb194c44.015@cactus.dk>
	<4b1e0644.0e67f10a.564c.ffffe056@mx.google.com>
	<3982655240544C92B9A9593A1863E1FA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<011c01ca7844$313f1f10$93bd5d30$@net>
Message-ID: <DDE3A7DFF56C4CBFABF6BE3D55920EA6@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi John:

I am not quite sure what you asking in regards to windows sharing but I
support many networks remote via Windows Desktop but always through a
LogMeIn Hamachi directpipe (can connect to remote shares like
'\\5.12.345.12\SharedFolder' and asign a letter to it once connected) and
barring that I use some LogMeIn on stations off the servers. For Linux
Clients/Servers I use Putty, UltraVNC and between Linux and Linux/Windows
stations/servers I use a Linux Term Server Client (on all major distros).

HTH
Jim  

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:23 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Windows connection sharing

Does anyone use windows connection sharing for Internet access anymore?

I was wondering if I could use WCS on a PC with a Cellular 3G connection to
access the Internet from another PC via a wireless router. 

Any comments?

John B.

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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Dec  8 23:34:49 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:34:49 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Windows connection sharing
In-Reply-To: <DDE3A7DFF56C4CBFABF6BE3D55920EA6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <sb194c44.015@cactus.dk>	<4b1e0644.0e67f10a.564c.ffffe056@mx.google.com>	<3982655240544C92B9A9593A1863E1FA@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<011c01ca7844$313f1f10$93bd5d30$@net>
	<DDE3A7DFF56C4CBFABF6BE3D55920EA6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <022f01ca7891$5389eee0$fa9dcca0$@net>

Jim,
Basically it would be connecting one PC through another to get to the
Internet. Or reversed, using one PC's internet connection for another PC to
connect to the internet. The only connection would be wireless/Ethernet.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:28 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Using Windows connection sharing

Hi John:

I am not quite sure what you asking in regards to windows sharing but I
support many networks remote via Windows Desktop but always through a
LogMeIn Hamachi directpipe (can connect to remote shares like
'\\5.12.345.12\SharedFolder' and asign a letter to it once connected) and
barring that I use some LogMeIn on stations off the servers. For Linux
Clients/Servers I use Putty, UltraVNC and between Linux and Linux/Windows
stations/servers I use a Linux Term Server Client (on all major distros).

HTH
Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:23 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Windows connection sharing

Does anyone use windows connection sharing for Internet access anymore?

I was wondering if I could use WCS on a PC with a Cellular 3G connection to
access the Internet from another PC via a wireless router. 

Any comments?

John B.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Dec  9 07:43:16 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:43:16 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Using Windows connection sharing
Message-ID: <sb1fb796.009@cactus.dk>

Hi John

I guess you can. But many new models routers have a USB connection for such a modem to be used either as the primary or a fall-back WAN connection. This may be a better option.

/gustav


>>> john at winhaven.net 08-12-2009 21:22:41 >>>
Does anyone use windows connection sharing for Internet access anymore?

I was wondering if I could use WCS on a PC with a Cellular 3G connection to
access the Internet from another PC via a wireless router. 

Any comments?

John B.




From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 08:23:07 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:23:07 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD
Message-ID: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Brother DCP110C printer. Recently I got another computer and wanted
to install the Brother drivers but I cannot find the disk. Does anyone have
said printer and its installation CD? If so, I'd really appreciate you
zipping it and sending it to me off-list. It doesn't seem to be available on
the Brother Canada site, unfortunately.

TIA,
Arthur


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Dec  9 08:44:51 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:44:51 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>
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Is this it?

http://www.nodevice.com/driver/DCP-110C/get41273.html

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

I have a Brother DCP110C printer. Recently I got another computer and wanted
to install the Brother drivers but I cannot find the disk. Does anyone have
said printer and its installation CD? If so, I'd really appreciate you
zipping it and sending it to me off-list. It doesn't seem to be available on
the Brother Canada site, unfortunately.

TIA,
Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Dec  9 08:45:41 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:45:41 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85DD2D38C57E4A7BABFBF9995494E348@HAL9005>

Or this?

http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/lpr_drivers.html

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

I have a Brother DCP110C printer. Recently I got another computer and wanted
to install the Brother drivers but I cannot find the disk. Does anyone have
said printer and its installation CD? If so, I'd really appreciate you
zipping it and sending it to me off-list. It doesn't seem to be available on
the Brother Canada site, unfortunately.

TIA,
Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Dec  9 08:46:20 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:46:20 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BD3C364417C143BD91D4BB6EAAC0D056@HAL9005>

Another possibility?

http://www.soft32.com/Download/Free/Brother_DCP_110C_USB/4-172261-1.html

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

I have a Brother DCP110C printer. Recently I got another computer and wanted
to install the Brother drivers but I cannot find the disk. Does anyone have
said printer and its installation CD? If so, I'd really appreciate you
zipping it and sending it to me off-list. It doesn't seem to be available on
the Brother Canada site, unfortunately.

TIA,
Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Dec  9 08:47:09 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:47:09 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <97D06D34EAA844D9A0745C61147C5BEC@HAL9005>

Actually I just Googled 'Brother DCP110C " and got a bunch of possible
sites.  

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

I have a Brother DCP110C printer. Recently I got another computer and wanted
to install the Brother drivers but I cannot find the disk. Does anyone have
said printer and its installation CD? If so, I'd really appreciate you
zipping it and sending it to me off-list. It doesn't seem to be available on
the Brother Canada site, unfortunately.

TIA,
Arthur
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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Wed Dec  9 08:49:00 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:49:00 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD
In-Reply-To: <97D06D34EAA844D9A0745C61147C5BEC@HAL9005>
References: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com>
	<97D06D34EAA844D9A0745C61147C5BEC@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B7DCC563@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

Busy today? :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Actually I just Googled 'Brother DCP110C " and got a bunch of possible sites.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

I have a Brother DCP110C printer. Recently I got another computer and wanted to install the Brother drivers but I cannot find the disk. Does anyone have said printer and its installation CD? If so, I'd really appreciate you zipping it and sending it to me off-list. It doesn't seem to be available on the Brother Canada site, unfortunately.

TIA,
Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Dec  9 09:14:35 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:14:35 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD
In-Reply-To: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B7DCC563@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
References: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com><97D06D34EAA844D9A0745C61147C5BEC@HAL9005>
	<A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B7DCC563@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <876A7DE7E26D47E2A7ADDDA475A13D04@HAL9005>

Not yet...only 7am here.  Just finishing second cup of tea... 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Slough
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:49 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Busy today? :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Actually I just Googled 'Brother DCP110C " and got a bunch of possible
sites.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

I have a Brother DCP110C printer. Recently I got another computer and wanted
to install the Brother drivers but I cannot find the disk. Does anyone have
said printer and its installation CD? If so, I'd really appreciate you
zipping it and sending it to me off-list. It doesn't seem to be available on
the Brother Canada site, unfortunately.

TIA,
Arthur
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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Wed Dec  9 09:19:24 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:19:24 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD
In-Reply-To: <876A7DE7E26D47E2A7ADDDA475A13D04@HAL9005>
References: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com><97D06D34EAA844D9A0745C61147C5BEC@HAL9005>
	<A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B7DCC563@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
	<876A7DE7E26D47E2A7ADDDA475A13D04@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B7DCC5C6@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

Tea, that sounds like a plan...

I'm rolling out 150 new mobile phones to users - logging them on a databaase, matching new sim cards with phones and phone numbers, assigning them to users, installing security certificates so they'll be able to get email on them and organising the transfer from one provider to another. Fun fun fun!


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:15 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Not yet...only 7am here.  Just finishing second cup of tea...

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:49 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Busy today? :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Actually I just Googled 'Brother DCP110C " and got a bunch of possible sites.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

I have a Brother DCP110C printer. Recently I got another computer and wanted to install the Brother drivers but I cannot find the disk. Does anyone have said printer and its installation CD? If so, I'd really appreciate you zipping it and sending it to me off-list. It doesn't seem to be available on the Brother Canada site, unfortunately.

TIA,
Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Dec  9 09:29:12 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:29:12 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD
In-Reply-To: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B7DCC5C6@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
References: <29f585dd0912090623y4c8cafefq73f87ac3c889054a@mail.gmail.com><97D06D34EAA844D9A0745C61147C5BEC@HAL9005><A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B7DCC563@chvex03.lonzagroup.net><876A7DE7E26D47E2A7ADDDA475A13D04@HAL9005>
	<A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B7DCC5C6@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <C9FE8B2C0D574055832EEA933A799264@HAL9005>

I only drink two cups in the morning.  But the cup holds a pint. 

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Slough
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:19 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Tea, that sounds like a plan...

I'm rolling out 150 new mobile phones to users - logging them on a
databaase, matching new sim cards with phones and phone numbers, assigning
them to users, installing security certificates so they'll be able to get
email on them and organising the transfer from one provider to another. Fun
fun fun!


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:15 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Not yet...only 7am here.  Just finishing second cup of tea...

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Slough
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:49 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Busy today? :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

Actually I just Googled 'Brother DCP110C " and got a bunch of possible
sites.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lost Installation CD

I have a Brother DCP110C printer. Recently I got another computer and wanted
to install the Brother drivers but I cannot find the disk. Does anyone have
said printer and its installation CD? If so, I'd really appreciate you
zipping it and sending it to me off-list. It doesn't seem to be available on
the Brother Canada site, unfortunately.

TIA,
Arthur
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 12:24:56 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:24:56 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing file for Excel Text to Speech feature
Message-ID: <3A7E09EC6AF94F53B5F30EF3AFF26BD6@SusanOne>

I tried to install the Text to Speech feature in Excel and got a missing 
file error -- 

C:MSOCache\All Users\90000409-6000-11D3-3CFE-0150048383C9\45561401.CAB

I tried to find it online, but no luck. If someone has this file, would they 
mind sending it to me?

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 11:44:36 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:44:36 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Word calculating field question
Message-ID: <ABA362C5DC02495DA1D9DBF8B57F0E74@SusanOne>

I want to use a Word field to evaluate another field value in a calculation. 
How can I do this? For instance, if one field is today's date (DATE), how 
can I get a formula in EQ field to reference the date field?

I have Equation Editor installed and I don't have any problem inserting 
simple equations.

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 15:37:27 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:37:27 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Word calculating field question
Message-ID: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>

After doing a bit of research, it seems the only way to do this is to create 
a bookmark that points to the field and refer to the bookmark. Is this 
really the only and best way to do this?

Susan H.


>I want to use a Word field to evaluate another field value in a 
>calculation. How can I do this? For instance, if one field is today's date 
>(DATE), how can I get a formula in EQ field to reference the date field?
>
> I have Equation Editor installed and I don't have any problem inserting 
> simple equations.
>



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Fri Dec 11 08:28:34 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:28:34 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Word calculating field question
In-Reply-To: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com>

Hi Susan,

I'm not sure, but the hassles involved in doing any calculations in Word 
are why I generally don't.  You can write formulas in a Word table cell 
that refer to other table cells, but it's ever so much more difficult 
than using Excel, and there's precious little guidance in the Help.  I 
use bookmarks and cross-references often in Word, but usually for 
location (page number) or for table of contents.  Another possibility 
comes to mind - form fields.  Word has many of them - I usually use just 
a few of those, as in "Click here and type the name" or whatever, and 
check boxes.  Have you looked into those?

T

Susan Harkins wrote:
> After doing a bit of research, it seems the only way to do this is to create 
> a bookmark that points to the field and refer to the bookmark. Is this 
> really the only and best way to do this?
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>   
>> I want to use a Word field to evaluate another field value in a 
>> calculation. How can I do this? For instance, if one field is today's date 
>> (DATE), how can I get a formula in EQ field to reference the date field?
>>
>> I have Equation Editor installed and I don't have any problem inserting 
>> simple equations.
>>
>>     
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 08:33:11 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:33:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Word calculating field question
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>
	<4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>

Tina, I'm inserting form fields into a table. But for the life of me, I 
can't figure out how to refer to them so I can plug one into a formula.

Hire Date Form Field
Probation End: HireDate + 90

It seems like it should be simple, but maybe Word just can't do this. I 
can't figure out how to name the form field, and I thought you could. I 
could swear I've done this before, but I'm just not having any luck.

Susan H.



> Hi Susan,
>
> I'm not sure, but the hassles involved in doing any calculations in Word
> are why I generally don't.  You can write formulas in a Word table cell
> that refer to other table cells, but it's ever so much more difficult
> than using Excel, and there's precious little guidance in the Help.  I
> use bookmarks and cross-references often in Word, but usually for
> location (page number) or for table of contents.  Another possibility
> comes to mind - form fields.  Word has many of them - I usually use just
> a few of those, as in "Click here and type the name" or whatever, and
> check boxes.  Have you looked into those?
>
> T
>
> Susan Harkins wrote:
>> After doing a bit of research, it seems the only way to do this is to 
>> create
>> a bookmark that points to the field and refer to the bookmark. Is this
>> really the only and best way to do this?
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I want to use a Word field to evaluate another field value in a
>>> calculation. How can I do this? For instance, if one field is today's 
>>> date
>>> (DATE), how can I get a formula in EQ field to reference the date field?
>>>
>>> I have Equation Editor installed and I don't have any problem inserting
>>> simple equations.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>>
>>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 08:36:07 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:36:07 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
Message-ID: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>

In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read" 
setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"

So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message in 
the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.

Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this "automatically 
opens" the message and allows viruses in.

They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what they're 
talking about?

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-2354

Susan H. 



From john at winhaven.net  Fri Dec 11 08:49:31 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <01f901ca7a71$26111fb0$72335f10$@net>

If they had a decent security program it wouldn't matter what they had
outlook do.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:36 AM
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read" 
setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"

So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message in 
the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.

Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this "automatically

opens" the message and allows viruses in.

They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what they're 
talking about?

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-2354

Susan H. 

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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Fri Dec 11 08:49:57 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:49:57 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

AFIK, Outlook has had various security patches in place for year that prevent it from running any scripts in HTML formatted messages and to hide unhealthy attachments. See this old article for instance...
http://windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9132

In any case it's pretty lame to say "don't open a message, you might get a virus infection." This might be true of you have no or out of date anti-virus software but only a very foolish Windows user would do that. No?

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:36 AM
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read" 
setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"

So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message in the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.

Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this "automatically opens" the message and allows viruses in.

They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what they're talking about?

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-2354

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 08:53:17 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:53:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
	<01f901ca7a71$26111fb0$72335f10$@net>
Message-ID: <F9340D5BABE347AA9089EEB7CF33CF5D@SusanOne>

Yeah, but is their complaint valid. If so, I need to offer some kind of 
explanation. I really don't know what they mean by "automatically open." 
Criminy... it IS Microsoft, they would have something so easy to screw up...

Susan H.



> If they had a decent security program it wouldn't matter what they had
> outlook do.


> In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read"
> setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"
>
> So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message in
> the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.
>
> Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this 
> "automatically
>
> opens" the message and allows viruses in.
>
> They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what they're
> talking about?
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-2354
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 09:11:23 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:11:23 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <F9340D5BABE347AA9089EEB7CF33CF5D@SusanOne>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
	<01f901ca7a71$26111fb0$72335f10$@net>
	<F9340D5BABE347AA9089EEB7CF33CF5D@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912110711j3f9ed463pb49eb234b305a6ec@mail.gmail.com>

Well my understanding was that if the page displays in the preview
pane and there is some kind of HTML badness in it, then that HTML
would execute. I think that might have been patched but I'm not sure.

If you search on "Outlook preview pane virus" you will find lots of
info on it including these

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/261255

http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/antivirus.asp

http://www.appsynthesis.com/techtips/articles/187%20Outlook%20-%20Previewing%20Email.htm

http://apcsnh.com/vacm/previewpaneoff.html

GK


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, but is their complaint valid. If so, I need to offer some kind of
> explanation. I really don't know what they mean by "automatically open."
> Criminy... it IS Microsoft, they would have something so easy to screw up...
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>
>> If they had a decent security program it wouldn't matter what they had
>> outlook do.
>
>
>> In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read"
>> setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"
>>
>> So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message in
>> the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.
>>
>> Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this
>> "automatically
>>
>> opens" the message and allows viruses in.
>>
>> They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what they're
>> talking about?
>>
>> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-2354
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 09:18:05 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:18:05 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <34442EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne>

Thanks Lambert -- exactly what I needed. :)

You know -- like John -- the first thing I thought of was... who's not 
running virus protection? But, even so, I have to be responsible for what I 
write.

Now, I vaguely remember all this, but I guess it's just so old that my old 
brain has let it go to make room for newer more exciting stuff. :)

Susan H.


> AFIK, Outlook has had various security patches in place for year that 
> prevent it from running any scripts in HTML formatted messages and to hide 
> unhealthy attachments. See this old article for instance...
> http://windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9132
>
> In any case it's pretty lame to say "don't open a message, you might get a 
> virus infection." This might be true of you have no or out of date 
> anti-virus software but only a very foolish Windows user would do that. 
> No?
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:36 AM
> To: DBA Tech List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
>
> In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read"
> setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"
>
> So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message in 
> the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.
>
> Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this 
> "automatically opens" the message and allows viruses in.
>
> They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what they're 
> talking about?
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-2354
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Dec 11 09:40:20 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:40:20 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <34442EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<34442EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>

Some people who consider themselves "techies" never let go of old procedures
and can't be convinced that they should. A very arrogant fellow I know (on
university staff) I know still reformats and reinstalls windows every year
because that was considered by some to be a good practice back in Windows 95
days. I doubt he will ever stop doing this.

I optimize and rejuvenate PCs all the time and in ten years have probably
had to reformat and reinstall a dozen times. That's generally caused by a
bad infection that someone else tried and failed to remediate, not because
windows needs it. He doesn't care because some "expert" recommended that he
do what he does and I'm certainly not as much of an expert because I don't
have my PhD.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:18 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Thanks Lambert -- exactly what I needed. :)

You know -- like John -- the first thing I thought of was... who's not 
running virus protection? But, even so, I have to be responsible for what I 
write.

Now, I vaguely remember all this, but I guess it's just so old that my old 
brain has let it go to make room for newer more exciting stuff. :)

Susan H.


> AFIK, Outlook has had various security patches in place for year that 
> prevent it from running any scripts in HTML formatted messages and to hide

> unhealthy attachments. See this old article for instance...
> http://windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9132
>
> In any case it's pretty lame to say "don't open a message, you might get a

> virus infection." This might be true of you have no or out of date 
> anti-virus software but only a very foolish Windows user would do that. 
> No?
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:36 AM
> To: DBA Tech List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
>
> In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read"
> setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"
>
> So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message in 
> the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.
>
> Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this 
> "automatically opens" the message and allows viruses in.
>
> They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what they're 
> talking about?
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-2354
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Fri Dec 11 09:46:58 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:46:58 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<34442EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne>
	<025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B918685E@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

I remember that, you used to HAVE to reinstall Windows once a year, because otherwise you wouldn't be able to do anything with it after about 14 months. It's a lot better with XP - I hadn't had to reinstall a computer due to a software problem in nearly 10 years until I had a WMI problem at home a couple of years ago, and someone convinced me that life was too short to hunt the error down :-)

Good (and getting better) anti-malware software is probably a big help in this too, but better Windows software is undeniably at the root of it.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:40 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Some people who consider themselves "techies" never let go of old procedures and can't be convinced that they should. A very arrogant fellow I know (on university staff) I know still reformats and reinstalls windows every year because that was considered by some to be a good practice back in Windows 95 days. I doubt he will ever stop doing this.

I optimize and rejuvenate PCs all the time and in ten years have probably had to reformat and reinstall a dozen times. That's generally caused by a bad infection that someone else tried and failed to remediate, not because windows needs it. He doesn't care because some "expert" recommended that he do what he does and I'm certainly not as much of an expert because I don't have my PhD.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:18 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Thanks Lambert -- exactly what I needed. :)

You know -- like John -- the first thing I thought of was... who's not running virus protection? But, even so, I have to be responsible for what I write.

Now, I vaguely remember all this, but I guess it's just so old that my old brain has let it go to make room for newer more exciting stuff. :)

Susan H.


> AFIK, Outlook has had various security patches in place for year that
> prevent it from running any scripts in HTML formatted messages and to
> hide

> unhealthy attachments. See this old article for instance...
> http://windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9132
>
> In any case it's pretty lame to say "don't open a message, you might
> get a

> virus infection." This might be true of you have no or out of date
> anti-virus software but only a very foolish Windows user would do that.
> No?
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
> Harkins
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:36 AM
> To: DBA Tech List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
>
> In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read"
> setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"
>
> So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message
> in the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.
>
> Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this
> "automatically opens" the message and allows viruses in.
>
> They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what
> they're talking about?
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-23
> 54
>
> Susan H.
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 09:51:42 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:51:42 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><34442EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne><025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>
	<A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B918685E@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <A4691F3F9E7847A98A9ABC24797D0650@SusanOne>

It's a lot better with XP - I hadn't had to reinstall a computer due to a 
software problem in nearly 10 years until I had a WMI problem at home a 
couple of years ago, and someone convinced me that life was too short to 
hunt the error down :-)

==========Speaking of... yesterday, I had to work hard to install Microsoft 
Equation Editor -- really put me through the wringer, but finally installed 
the Location tool (can't remember the exact name) and miraculous, the Editor 
finally appeared. Now, however, everytime I do something in IE I get a 
script error. :(

Susan H. 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec 11 10:07:23 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:07:23 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Wannabe Techies (was: Outlook question)
Message-ID: <sb227c74.084@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Don't tell that to the Mac fan-boys. They may have improved, but I clearly remember one having a Macintosh - the original standup with the tiny b/w built-in tube - that he regularly (every month or so) reinstalled completely to have "fresh files" ... After asking what that was about, I suddenly understood that he firmly believed that the files on the harddrive slowly vanished over time.

It's in the category with the hi-fi nerds who believe in rectified(!) silver molecules in speaker cables and audible acoustic (physical) feedback to a cd-rom in a cd-rom drive (remotely and theoretically possible, of course, but not at a level where you are able to be present in the room). I need air.

/gustav


>>> john at winhaven.net 11-12-2009 16:40 >>>
Some people who consider themselves "techies" never let go of old procedures
and can't be convinced that they should. A very arrogant fellow I know (on
university staff) I know still reformats and reinstalls windows every year
because that was considered by some to be a good practice back in Windows 95
days. I doubt he will ever stop doing this.

I optimize and rejuvenate PCs all the time and in ten years have probably
had to reformat and reinstall a dozen times. That's generally caused by a
bad infection that someone else tried and failed to remediate, not because
windows needs it. He doesn't care because some "expert" recommended that he
do what he does and I'm certainly not as much of an expert because I don't
have my PhD.




From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Fri Dec 11 10:38:40 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:38:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Word calculating field question
In-Reply-To: <9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne><4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com>
	<9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B227590.7020703@torchlake.com>

Susan, I'll try to look further into this - won't get to it until 
tonight, though.  I'll let you know what I find.
T

Susan Harkins wrote:
> Tina, I'm inserting form fields into a table. But for the life of me, I 
> can't figure out how to refer to them so I can plug one into a formula.
>
> Hire Date Form Field
> Probation End: HireDate + 90
>
> It seems like it should be simple, but maybe Word just can't do this. I 
> can't figure out how to name the form field, and I thought you could. I 
> could swear I've done this before, but I'm just not having any luck.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>
>   
>> Hi Susan,
>>
>> I'm not sure, but the hassles involved in doing any calculations in Word
>> are why I generally don't.  You can write formulas in a Word table cell
>> that refer to other table cells, but it's ever so much more difficult
>> than using Excel, and there's precious little guidance in the Help.  I
>> use bookmarks and cross-references often in Word, but usually for
>> location (page number) or for table of contents.  Another possibility
>> comes to mind - form fields.  Word has many of them - I usually use just
>> a few of those, as in "Click here and type the name" or whatever, and
>> check boxes.  Have you looked into those?
>>
>> T
>>
>> Susan Harkins wrote:
>>     
>>> After doing a bit of research, it seems the only way to do this is to 
>>> create
>>> a bookmark that points to the field and refer to the bookmark. Is this
>>> really the only and best way to do this?
>>>
>>> Susan H.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I want to use a Word field to evaluate another field value in a
>>>> calculation. How can I do this? For instance, if one field is today's 
>>>> date
>>>> (DATE), how can I get a formula in EQ field to reference the date field?
>>>>
>>>> I have Equation Editor installed and I don't have any problem inserting
>>>> simple equations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 11:00:55 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:00:55 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Word calculating field question
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne><4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com><9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>
	<4B227590.7020703@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <F9CF8BDF69ED404EBE652BD7E4EA978B@SusanOne>

Tina, if you learn something, maybe we could write this one together? 

Susan H. 


> Susan, I'll try to look further into this - won't get to it until 
> tonight, though.  I'll let you know what I find.
> T
> 
> Susan Harkins wrote:
>> Tina, I'm inserting form fields into a table. But for the life of me, I 
>> can't figure out how to refer to them so I can plug one into a formula.
>>
>> Hire Date Form Field
>> Probation End: HireDate + 90



From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Dec 11 14:34:06 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:34:06 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<34442EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne>
	<025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>
Message-ID: <02FB4C57343A49A3B9BB9E4F3F9FC7E0@creativesystemdesigns.com>

You have struck a pet peeve of mine... but with your acknowledgement allow
me to prattle on off-topic from your OT. ;-)

I feel that a certifications and/or degrees are an acknowledgement of
diligence, in the pursuit of knowledge, in a discipline of study and a
demonstration of excitement, in a particular field of interest. Some
individuals rank people, not by their character, intelligence or
accomplishments by rather by the paper they have garnered.

My mother was a bright individual, who was attending university at sixteen,
with a full scholarship but had to leave in her second year as her father, a
gardener by profession, died. She then had to go to work as a stenographer
to support her mother and younger siblings and did so for the next 15
years...until she was married and had children of her own.

A story she related was of one of her bosses, of elevated rank due to his
education credentials, knowing little of her life story, chastised her for
being uneducated and of a common background. She responded with; "The
greatest man that ever walked the earth was the son of a carpenter." (This
response probably struck home with far greater impact then, some 70 years
ago, than it would now.)

Some of the most educated people can be some of most the embarrassingly
ignorant.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Some people who consider themselves "techies" never let go of old procedures
and can't be convinced that they should. A very arrogant fellow I know (on
university staff) I know still reformats and reinstalls windows every year
because that was considered by some to be a good practice back in Windows 95
days. I doubt he will ever stop doing this.

I optimize and rejuvenate PCs all the time and in ten years have probably
had to reformat and reinstall a dozen times. That's generally caused by a
bad infection that someone else tried and failed to remediate, not because
windows needs it. He doesn't care because some "expert" recommended that he
do what he does and I'm certainly not as much of an expert because I don't
have my PhD.



From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:33:56 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:33:56 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager
In-Reply-To: <9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>	<4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com>
	<9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4b22acf6.1067f10a.6c10.ffffab7e@mx.google.com>

Hi all,
I am just about to install windows 7 and  I need to create a partition in
which to store the current drive c: before hand so that I can access it all
again if need be. (I only have one HD on the PC).

I am considering using this (free) partition manager:

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

does anybody have any thoughts or advice on this?

Thanks

Max




From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:38:10 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:38:10 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <02FB4C57343A49A3B9BB9E4F3F9FC7E0@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>	<34442EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne>	<025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>
	<02FB4C57343A49A3B9BB9E4F3F9FC7E0@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4b22adf4.0f67f10a.7edf.ffffab00@mx.google.com>

Nice one Jim

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 11 December 2009 20:34
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

You have struck a pet peeve of mine... but with your acknowledgement allow
me to prattle on off-topic from your OT. ;-)

I feel that a certifications and/or degrees are an acknowledgement of
diligence, in the pursuit of knowledge, in a discipline of study and a
demonstration of excitement, in a particular field of interest. Some
individuals rank people, not by their character, intelligence or
accomplishments by rather by the paper they have garnered.

My mother was a bright individual, who was attending university at sixteen,
with a full scholarship but had to leave in her second year as her father, a
gardener by profession, died. She then had to go to work as a stenographer
to support her mother and younger siblings and did so for the next 15
years...until she was married and had children of her own.

A story she related was of one of her bosses, of elevated rank due to his
education credentials, knowing little of her life story, chastised her for
being uneducated and of a common background. She responded with; "The
greatest man that ever walked the earth was the son of a carpenter." (This
response probably struck home with far greater impact then, some 70 years
ago, than it would now.)

Some of the most educated people can be some of most the embarrassingly
ignorant.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Some people who consider themselves "techies" never let go of old procedures
and can't be convinced that they should. A very arrogant fellow I know (on
university staff) I know still reformats and reinstalls windows every year
because that was considered by some to be a good practice back in Windows 95
days. I doubt he will ever stop doing this.

I optimize and rejuvenate PCs all the time and in ten years have probably
had to reformat and reinstall a dozen times. That's generally caused by a
bad infection that someone else tried and failed to remediate, not because
windows needs it. He doesn't care because some "expert" recommended that he
do what he does and I'm certainly not as much of an expert because I don't
have my PhD.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Dec 11 14:45:06 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:45:06 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B918685E@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<34442EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne>
	<025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>
	<A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B918685E@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <95B1584A30BA4A989BB95B652533419D@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Here is a computer of an older design and it works very well... and it does
not have to be reformated every so many years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0anIyVGeWOI

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Slough
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:47 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

I remember that, you used to HAVE to reinstall Windows once a year, because
otherwise you wouldn't be able to do anything with it after about 14 months.
It's a lot better with XP - I hadn't had to reinstall a computer due to a
software problem in nearly 10 years until I had a WMI problem at home a
couple of years ago, and someone convinced me that life was too short to
hunt the error down :-)

Good (and getting better) anti-malware software is probably a big help in
this too, but better Windows software is undeniably at the root of it.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:40 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Some people who consider themselves "techies" never let go of old procedures
and can't be convinced that they should. A very arrogant fellow I know (on
university staff) I know still reformats and reinstalls windows every year
because that was considered by some to be a good practice back in Windows 95
days. I doubt he will ever stop doing this.

I optimize and rejuvenate PCs all the time and in ten years have probably
had to reformat and reinstall a dozen times. That's generally caused by a
bad infection that someone else tried and failed to remediate, not because
windows needs it. He doesn't care because some "expert" recommended that he
do what he does and I'm certainly not as much of an expert because I don't
have my PhD.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:18 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Thanks Lambert -- exactly what I needed. :)

You know -- like John -- the first thing I thought of was... who's not
running virus protection? But, even so, I have to be responsible for what I
write.

Now, I vaguely remember all this, but I guess it's just so old that my old
brain has let it go to make room for newer more exciting stuff. :)

Susan H.


> AFIK, Outlook has had various security patches in place for year that
> prevent it from running any scripts in HTML formatted messages and to
> hide

> unhealthy attachments. See this old article for instance...
> http://windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9132
>
> In any case it's pretty lame to say "don't open a message, you might
> get a

> virus infection." This might be true of you have no or out of date
> anti-virus software but only a very foolish Windows user would do that.
> No?
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
> Harkins
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:36 AM
> To: DBA Tech List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
>
> In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read"
> setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"
>
> So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message
> in the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.
>
> Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this
> "automatically opens" the message and allows viruses in.
>
> They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what
> they're talking about?
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-23
> 54
>
> Susan H.
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Dec 11 14:52:22 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:52:22 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager
In-Reply-To: <4b22acf6.1067f10a.6c10.ffffab7e@mx.google.com>
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>
	<4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com>
	<9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>
	<4b22acf6.1067f10a.6c10.ffffab7e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <F2122FA7064A457FBB8AC1FC35E06669@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Max:

I have heard that this partition manager is a good choice:

http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=1181235&tag=leftCol
;post-1280

...as recommended and demonstrated from the following link:

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=1280&tag=leftCol;post-1306

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:34 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager

Hi all,
I am just about to install windows 7 and  I need to create a partition in
which to store the current drive c: before hand so that I can access it all
again if need be. (I only have one HD on the PC).

I am considering using this (free) partition manager:

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

does anybody have any thoughts or advice on this?

Thanks

Max


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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:55:48 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:55:48 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager
In-Reply-To: <F2122FA7064A457FBB8AC1FC35E06669@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>	<4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com>	<9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>	<4b22acf6.1067f10a.6c10.ffffab7e@mx.google.com>
	<F2122FA7064A457FBB8AC1FC35E06669@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4b22b217.1067f10a.6c10.ffffac79@mx.google.com>

Thanks Jim, I will have a look at that.

Max

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 11 December 2009 20:52
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager

Hi Max:

I have heard that this partition manager is a good choice:

http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=1181235&tag=leftCol
;post-1280

...as recommended and demonstrated from the following link:

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=1280&tag=leftCol;post-1306

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:34 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager

Hi all,
I am just about to install windows 7 and  I need to create a partition in
which to store the current drive c: before hand so that I can access it all
again if need be. (I only have one HD on the PC).

I am considering using this (free) partition manager:

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

does anybody have any thoughts or advice on this?

Thanks

Max


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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:59:47 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:59:47 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager
In-Reply-To: <F2122FA7064A457FBB8AC1FC35E06669@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>	<4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com>	<9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>	<4b22acf6.1067f10a.6c10.ffffab7e@mx.google.com>
	<F2122FA7064A457FBB8AC1FC35E06669@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4b22b305.0d67f10a.2cf5.ffffaf14@mx.google.com>

Ah,

Sorry, I should have mentioned it is a 64 bit PC and Easus does not handle
this.  I did actually download and try this before it warned me.

Cheers

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 11 December 2009 20:52
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager

Hi Max:

I have heard that this partition manager is a good choice:

http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=1181235&tag=leftCol
;post-1280

...as recommended and demonstrated from the following link:

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=1280&tag=leftCol;post-1306

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:34 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager

Hi all,
I am just about to install windows 7 and  I need to create a partition in
which to store the current drive c: before hand so that I can access it all
again if need be. (I only have one HD on the PC).

I am considering using this (free) partition manager:

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

does anybody have any thoughts or advice on this?

Thanks

Max


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Dec 11 15:04:25 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:04:25 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Here is something that is truly awesome...
In-Reply-To: <F2122FA7064A457FBB8AC1FC35E06669@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>
	<4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com>
	<9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>
	<4b22acf6.1067f10a.6c10.ffffab7e@mx.google.com>
	<F2122FA7064A457FBB8AC1FC35E06669@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <7ED527D5686C452FBE5CF99153FC6CEB@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Google has been working on a new quantum computer image search engine for
their site in conjunction with a computer company out of Vancouver:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18272-google-demonstrates-quantum-comp
uter-image-search.html

This new technology has incredible potential. Follow the link to the company
for further details:

http://www.dwavesys.com

Jim



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Dec 11 15:04:23 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:04:23 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <F9340D5BABE347AA9089EEB7CF33CF5D@SusanOne>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>,
	<F9340D5BABE347AA9089EEB7CF33CF5D@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B22B3D7.120.8966F71@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

1.  If the email contains "web bugs" or "tracking links" they will be triggered by the preview 
pane unless you configure Outlook to not display linked images.

2. As far as malicious code in emails are concerned, see 
http://ask-leo.com/can_i_really_catch_an_email_virus_just_by_looking.html

It says in part: "Mail will not infect you just by looking at it if you are running a current 
version of Outlook or Outlook Express, and keep any version of the two up to date with the 
latest patches."   

Note the words "current" and "latest patches".   This  and the  comment below about "a 
decent security program"  both assume that you are only going to get emails containing 
known exploits which are covered by AV definition and/or patches.  It offers no protection 
against the next attack coming up.   Bottom line is that when the preview pane is used,  the 
email *is* effectively "opened".  If it contains HTML, this will be rendered by the Internet 
Explorer engine and you will be vulnerable to new attacks that come up.

-- 
Stuart

Happy and safe user of 
Pegasus Mail for 15 years.


On 11 Dec 2009 at 9:53, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Yeah, but is their complaint valid. If so, I need to offer some kind of 
> explanation. I really don't know what they mean by "automatically open." 
> Criminy... it IS Microsoft, they would have something so easy to screw up...
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> > If they had a decent security program it wouldn't matter what they had
> > outlook do.
> 
> 
> > In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read"
> > setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"
> >
> > So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message in
> > the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.
> >
> > Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this 
> > "automatically
> >
> > opens" the message and allows viruses in.
> >
> > They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what they're
> > talking about?
> >
> > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-2354
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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> 
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 15:53:26 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:53:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>,
	<F9340D5BABE347AA9089EEB7CF33CF5D@SusanOne>
	<4B22B3D7.120.8966F71@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CEB5C9586A72410D8DF1A4B686CB15AA@SusanOne>

> Note the words "current" and "latest patches".   This  and the  comment 
> below about "a
> decent security program"  both assume that you are only going to get 
> emails containing
> known exploits which are covered by AV definition and/or patches.  It 
> offers no protection
> against the next attack coming up.   Bottom line is that when the preview 
> pane is used,  the
> email *is* effectively "opened".  If it contains HTML, this will be 
> rendered by the Internet
> Explorer engine and you will be vulnerable to new attacks that come up.

=======Well, I'm not the expert, but I'm not sure I agree -- if the hole has 
been patched, what "next attack" are you talking about? Wouldn't any new 
attacks need a new, as yet, unpatched vulnerability?

Susan H. 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Dec 11 16:16:36 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:16:36 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <CEB5C9586A72410D8DF1A4B686CB15AA@SusanOne>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>,
	<CEB5C9586A72410D8DF1A4B686CB15AA@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B22C4C4.4799.8D88D10@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I'm talking about the attack which someone develops next week when they find yet another 
security hole in IE. Until the exploit has infected a lot of people just like you, there won't be a 
patch for it.  Patches don't prevent new attacks, they just prevent old ones.

As long as your email program uses a full blown web browser engine just to render the text 
in an email, you are exposed to every new IE (or Firefox if you use Thunderbird for your 
email program) exploit that comes along until they release a patch for it.  

Having the preview pane automatically render the HTML in an email is effectively the same 
as clicking on a link and visiting a malicious website.   

-- 
Stuart

On 11 Dec 2009 at 16:53, Susan Harkins wrote:

> =======Well, I'm not the expert, but I'm not sure I agree -- if the hole has 
> been patched, what "next attack" are you talking about? Wouldn't any new 
> attacks need a new, as yet, unpatched vulnerability?
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Dec 11 16:29:06 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:29:06 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <4B22C4C4.4799.8D88D10@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>,
	<CEB5C9586A72410D8DF1A4B686CB15AA@SusanOne>,
	<4B22C4C4.4799.8D88D10@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4B22C7B2.24598.8E3FD31@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Here ya go - just what I was saying.  Use a browser to render email and all sorts of nasty 
things can happen:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/11/thunderbird_threat/


On 12 Dec 2009 at 8:16, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> I'm talking about the attack which someone develops next week when they find yet another 
> security hole in IE. Until the exploit has infected a lot of people just like you, there won't be a 
> patch for it.  Patches don't prevent new attacks, they just prevent old ones.
> 
> As long as your email program uses a full blown web browser engine just to render the text 
> in an email, you are exposed to every new IE (or Firefox if you use Thunderbird for your 
> email program) exploit that comes along until they release a patch for it.  
> 
> Having the preview pane automatically render the HTML in an email is effectively the same 
> as clicking on a link and visiting a malicious website.   
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 11 Dec 2009 at 16:53, Susan Harkins wrote:
> 
> > =======Well, I'm not the expert, but I'm not sure I agree -- if the hole has 
> > been patched, what "next attack" are you talking about? Wouldn't any new 
> > attacks need a new, as yet, unpatched vulnerability?
> > 
> > Susan H. 
> > 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Dec 11 16:56:21 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:56:21 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager
In-Reply-To: <4b22b305.0d67f10a.2cf5.ffffaf14@mx.google.com>
References: <B7AF51E5CC7D49A48D5A2ADE02065398@SusanOne>
	<4B225712.8000106@torchlake.com>
	<9B47E0096C7349A79AAEE5D0FE547473@SusanOne>
	<4b22acf6.1067f10a.6c10.ffffab7e@mx.google.com>
	<F2122FA7064A457FBB8AC1FC35E06669@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4b22b305.0d67f10a.2cf5.ffffaf14@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <937D9982EA294242B14E8AE39861EA3E@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Too bad... Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:00 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager

Ah,

Sorry, I should have mentioned it is a 64 bit PC and Easus does not handle
this.  I did actually download and try this before it warned me.

Cheers

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 11 December 2009 20:52
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager

Hi Max:

I have heard that this partition manager is a good choice:

http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=1181235&tag=leftCol
;post-1280

...as recommended and demonstrated from the following link:

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=1280&tag=leftCol;post-1306

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:34 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 and partion manager

Hi all,
I am just about to install windows 7 and  I need to create a partition in
which to store the current drive c: before hand so that I can access it all
again if need be. (I only have one HD on the PC).

I am considering using this (free) partition manager:

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

does anybody have any thoughts or advice on this?

Thanks

Max


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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 17:33:50 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:33:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>,
	<CEB5C9586A72410D8DF1A4B686CB15AA@SusanOne>
	<4B22C4C4.4799.8D88D10@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <223038A828E94288A03806D292989D2B@SusanOne>

> As long as your email program uses a full blown web browser engine just to 
> render the text
> in an email, you are exposed to every new IE (or Firefox if you use 
> Thunderbird for your
> email program) exploit that comes along until they release a patch for it.
>
> Having the preview pane automatically render the HTML in an email is 
> effectively the same
> as clicking on a link and visiting a malicious website.

====But isn't that the case, period?

Susan H. 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Dec 11 17:39:05 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:39:05 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <223038A828E94288A03806D292989D2B@SusanOne>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>,
	<223038A828E94288A03806D292989D2B@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B22D819.25984.9241248@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

No, it's not the case.  There are a number of email programs that do not use a browser fro 
rendering, they have there own HTML engine which is purely that.  It reads the markup and 
formats the text but doesn't execute code/scripts etc under any circumstances.

Pegasus Mail is one such program.  :-)

-- 
Stuart

On 11 Dec 2009 at 18:33, Susan Harkins wrote:

> > As long as your email program uses a full blown web browser engine just to 
> > render the text
> > in an email, you are exposed to every new IE (or Firefox if you use 
> > Thunderbird for your
> > email program) exploit that comes along until they release a patch for it.
> >
> > Having the preview pane automatically render the HTML in an email is 
> > effectively the same
> > as clicking on a link and visiting a malicious website.
> 
> ====But isn't that the case, period?
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Dec 12 14:09:22 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:09:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <95B1584A30BA4A989BB95B652533419D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><3444
	2EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne><025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net><A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B918685E@chvex03.
	lonzagroup.net>
	<95B1584A30BA4A989BB95B652533419D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4B23F872.2020500@torchlake.com>

Love it!  Thanks, Jim.  The first real Babbage Difference Engine!  
Another older design that works quite well is the abacus - but the 
Babbage!  Wow!
T

Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Here is a computer of an older design and it works very well... and it does
> not have to be reformated every so many years:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0anIyVGeWOI
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
> Slough
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:47 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
>
> I remember that, you used to HAVE to reinstall Windows once a year, because
> otherwise you wouldn't be able to do anything with it after about 14 months.
> It's a lot better with XP - I hadn't had to reinstall a computer due to a
> software problem in nearly 10 years until I had a WMI problem at home a
> couple of years ago, and someone convinced me that life was too short to
> hunt the error down :-)
>
> Good (and getting better) anti-malware software is probably a big help in
> this too, but better Windows software is undeniably at the root of it.
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:40 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
>
> Some people who consider themselves "techies" never let go of old procedures
> and can't be convinced that they should. A very arrogant fellow I know (on
> university staff) I know still reformats and reinstalls windows every year
> because that was considered by some to be a good practice back in Windows 95
> days. I doubt he will ever stop doing this.
>
> I optimize and rejuvenate PCs all the time and in ten years have probably
> had to reformat and reinstall a dozen times. That's generally caused by a
> bad infection that someone else tried and failed to remediate, not because
> windows needs it. He doesn't care because some "expert" recommended that he
> do what he does and I'm certainly not as much of an expert because I don't
> have my PhD.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:18 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
>
> Thanks Lambert -- exactly what I needed. :)
>
> You know -- like John -- the first thing I thought of was... who's not
> running virus protection? But, even so, I have to be responsible for what I
> write.
>
> Now, I vaguely remember all this, but I guess it's just so old that my old
> brain has let it go to make room for newer more exciting stuff. :)
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>   
>> AFIK, Outlook has had various security patches in place for year that
>> prevent it from running any scripts in HTML formatted messages and to
>> hide
>>     
>
>   
>> unhealthy attachments. See this old article for instance...
>> http://windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9132
>>
>> In any case it's pretty lame to say "don't open a message, you might
>> get a
>>     
>
>   
>> virus infection." This might be true of you have no or out of date
>> anti-virus software but only a very foolish Windows user would do that.
>> No?
>>
>> Lambert
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
>> Harkins
>> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:36 AM
>> To: DBA Tech List
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
>>
>> In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read"
>> setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"
>>
>> So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message
>> in the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.
>>
>> Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this
>> "automatically opens" the message and allows viruses in.
>>
>> They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what
>> they're talking about?
>>
>> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-23
>> 54
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Dec 12 16:04:09 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:04:09 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] AVI to FLV converor
In-Reply-To: <4B23F872.2020500@torchlake.com>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<"3444 2EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058"@SusanOne>
	<025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>
	<A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B918685E@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
	<95B1584A30BA4A989BB95B652533419D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4B23F872.2020500@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <D6AD483B150D4570A5132B3FD759D01F@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Would anyone recommend a good AVI to FLV convertor?

There are a lot of products out there let along YouTube but a client wants
to have their own... one that does not drop the quality or the quality can
be selected. 

Any personal recommendation?

MTIA
Jim 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Dec 12 16:46:22 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:46:22 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] AVI to FLV converor
In-Reply-To: <D6AD483B150D4570A5132B3FD759D01F@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>,
	<4B23F872.2020500@torchlake.com>,
	<D6AD483B150D4570A5132B3FD759D01F@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4B241D3E.2718.E1A2C85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

The leading open source converter library is  ffmpeg:
http://ffmpeg.org/

A lot of the converter applications out there use it.

You can get a free  Windows GUI for it - Winff
http://winff.org


-- 
Stuart

On 12 Dec 2009 at 14:04, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Would anyone recommend a good AVI to FLV convertor?
> 
> There are a lot of products out there let along YouTube but a client wants
> to have their own... one that does not drop the quality or the quality can
> be selected. 
> 
> Any personal recommendation?
> 
> MTIA
> Jim 
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Dec 12 21:08:24 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:08:24 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] AVI to FLV converor
In-Reply-To: <4B241D3E.2718.E1A2C85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>
	<4B23F872.2020500@torchlake.com>
	<D6AD483B150D4570A5132B3FD759D01F@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4B241D3E.2718.E1A2C85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <2D3A804BEF8B4D4E98481B91D3313084@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Thanks for the information Stuart.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:46 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] AVI to FLV converor

The leading open source converter library is  ffmpeg:
http://ffmpeg.org/

A lot of the converter applications out there use it.

You can get a free  Windows GUI for it - Winff
http://winff.org


-- 
Stuart

On 12 Dec 2009 at 14:04, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Would anyone recommend a good AVI to FLV convertor?
> 
> There are a lot of products out there let along YouTube but a client wants
> to have their own... one that does not drop the quality or the quality can
> be selected. 
> 
> Any personal recommendation?
> 
> MTIA
> Jim 
> 
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Dec 14 09:47:10 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:47:10 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
In-Reply-To: <95B1584A30BA4A989BB95B652533419D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <99D4FE1EB275494F8649345C26CB754A@SusanOne>	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290C57@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>	<34442EE08BEC434D8F593EA8CE3CF058@SusanOne>	<025301ca7a78$3eeffd60$bccff820$@net>	<A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207B918685E@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
	<95B1584A30BA4A989BB95B652533419D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <045b01ca7cd4$b4406330$1cc12990$@net>

Interesting, thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:45 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Here is a computer of an older design and it works very well... and it does
not have to be reformated every so many years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0anIyVGeWOI

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Slough
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:47 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

I remember that, you used to HAVE to reinstall Windows once a year, because
otherwise you wouldn't be able to do anything with it after about 14 months.
It's a lot better with XP - I hadn't had to reinstall a computer due to a
software problem in nearly 10 years until I had a WMI problem at home a
couple of years ago, and someone convinced me that life was too short to
hunt the error down :-)

Good (and getting better) anti-malware software is probably a big help in
this too, but better Windows software is undeniably at the root of it.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:40 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Some people who consider themselves "techies" never let go of old procedures
and can't be convinced that they should. A very arrogant fellow I know (on
university staff) I know still reformats and reinstalls windows every year
because that was considered by some to be a good practice back in Windows 95
days. I doubt he will ever stop doing this.

I optimize and rejuvenate PCs all the time and in ten years have probably
had to reformat and reinstall a dozen times. That's generally caused by a
bad infection that someone else tried and failed to remediate, not because
windows needs it. He doesn't care because some "expert" recommended that he
do what he does and I'm certainly not as much of an expert because I don't
have my PhD.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:18 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook question

Thanks Lambert -- exactly what I needed. :)

You know -- like John -- the first thing I thought of was... who's not
running virus protection? But, even so, I have to be responsible for what I
write.

Now, I vaguely remember all this, but I guess it's just so old that my old
brain has let it go to make room for newer more exciting stuff. :)

Susan H.


> AFIK, Outlook has had various security patches in place for year that
> prevent it from running any scripts in HTML formatted messages and to
> hide

> unhealthy attachments. See this old article for instance...
> http://windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9132
>
> In any case it's pretty lame to say "don't open a message, you might
> get a

> virus infection." This might be true of you have no or out of date
> anti-virus software but only a very foolish Windows user would do that.
> No?
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
> Harkins
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:36 AM
> To: DBA Tech List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook question
>
> In a recent blog, I showed the readers how to disable the automatic "read"
> setting -- you know how Outlook bolds messages until they're "read?"
>
> So, there's a simple setting that still allows you to view the message
> in the Reader Pane, but doesn't unbold the message header.
>
> Well, I've got a couple of readers who are claiming that this
> "automatically opens" the message and allows viruses in.
>
> They might be right, but I admit I'm confused. Anyone know what
> they're talking about?
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/msoffice/?p=2354&tag=leftCol;post-23
> 54
>
> Susan H.
>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 08:55:35 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:55:35 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse buttons no longer working in Word
Message-ID: <29f585dd0912150655o12e7a024t29219a07811f6eb8@mail.gmail.com>

I've done something (no idea what) that has caused the left and right mouse
clicks to be ignored within Word. The buttons work fine in all other
programs, and the mouse wheel continues to work correctly in Word, but for
some reason the buttons fail in Word, and only Word. I can't even click
somewhere to set the focus! Needless to say, this is maddening!

Anyone got an idea what is causing this? Even better, a fix?

TIA,
Arthur


From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec 15 09:41:13 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:41:13 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse buttons no longer working in Word
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0912150655o12e7a024t29219a07811f6eb8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0912150655o12e7a024t29219a07811f6eb8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E287D731B@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Word 2007?  This might be the answer...
http://www.itwriting.com/blog/140-annoying-word-2007-problem-cant-select-text.html#comment-72871 

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:56 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse buttons no longer working in Word

I've done something (no idea what) that has caused the left and right mouse clicks to be ignored within Word. The buttons work fine in all other programs, and the mouse wheel continues to work correctly in Word, but for some reason the buttons fail in Word, and only Word. I can't even click somewhere to set the focus! Needless to say, this is maddening!

Anyone got an idea what is causing this? Even better, a fix?

TIA,
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 08:32:38 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:32:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse buttons no longer working in Word
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E287D731B@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <29f585dd0912150655o12e7a024t29219a07811f6eb8@mail.gmail.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E287D731B@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0912160632n28c8765tffa03a10da71f739@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Lambert,

I'll give this a try.

A.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Heenan, Lambert <
Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:

> Word 2007?  This might be the answer...
>
> http://www.itwriting.com/blog/140-annoying-word-2007-problem-cant-select-text.html#comment-72871
>
> Lambert
>


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 12:05:58 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:05:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Double-click shortcuts
Message-ID: <975D1ACAE05248E9811281F376A4DD58@SusanOne>

I'm looking for double-click and right-click shortcuts in any Office 
application.

This is for an article and I'll give you credit, as always.

Susan H. 



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Dec 18 09:40:02 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:40:02 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
Message-ID: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>

Anybody have experience with noise canceling headphones and can tell me
what's a good product?

The Bose brand is like 2-3x the cost of anything else.  Could they really be
that much better?

TIA

Rocky

 


From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Fri Dec 18 10:04:32 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:04:32 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
In-Reply-To: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>
References: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207BD8411B7@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

I've got a marvellous pair of Sennheiser "in ear" headphones, which are like the little earbud headphones you used to get, but they really do block out other sound. They only cost me around $30-40, but I can't believe the sound quality.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 3:40 PM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones

Anybody have experience with noise canceling headphones and can tell me what's a good product?

The Bose brand is like 2-3x the cost of anything else.  Could they really be that much better?

TIA

Rocky




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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 10:06:07 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:06:07 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Home Server Trouble
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912180806y66c46822p71e152c85ef66980@mail.gmail.com>

Not looking for help here so much as just whining.

My HP Mediasmart server running Windows Home Server is not working.
It's headless - no monitor, keyboard or CD/DVD drive on it and it
won't allow me to bring up the Server Console from my main machine. It
has a RED status indicator.  I first noticed that red indicator last
night just before i went to bed and I rather than investigate it then
I decided to give it until morning to try and resolve it itselt.
Really didn't expect that to happen. This morning it was still that
way and I did a search of the HP support info when I got to the office
and it has instructed me to push a paper clip into a hole on the front
of the box and read the codes. Most of the codes indicate I will need
to "Contact HP Support" so it's not looking good.

I've had it for two years I think and really haven't had any previous
issues with it. It's been faithfully backing up all my systems nightly
during that time. I've restored an entire drive and some selected
files from those backups.

Just kind of freaking that I can't log into it. Kind of a helpless feeling.

But since I'm not in a spot that any of my other systems are failing
right now I guess the timing is as good as any. Now that statement
will put the pressure on for getting it up and running again.

Something else to play with I guess. Not a problem but an opportunity.

-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Dec 18 10:43:18 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:43:18 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
In-Reply-To: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>
References: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <C496FCCDCBD44A45815F354291B979BF@danwaters>

Hi Rocky,

I bought a pair of JBuds J2 Premium Noise Isolating earplugs.  Notice 'noise
isolating' instead of 'noise cancelling'.  They don't actively cancel any
noise, but the soft insert does a good job of quieting the outside noise.

The sound quality on these is really impressive.  The ear plug is about 1/2"
long, which provides room for a sound 'chamber', which produces really good
bass for such a small device.  These are the best ear plugs I've ever
listened to!

They cost about $14 on Amazon, and come in a variety of colors.

Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:40 AM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones

Anybody have experience with noise canceling headphones and can tell me
what's a good product?

The Bose brand is like 2-3x the cost of anything else.  Could they really be
that much better?

TIA

Rocky

 




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Dec 18 11:03:17 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:03:17 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
In-Reply-To: <C496FCCDCBD44A45815F354291B979BF@danwaters>
References: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>
	<C496FCCDCBD44A45815F354291B979BF@danwaters>
Message-ID: <F464A7E86F904571B464B7D4DB355CD2@HAL9005>

Thanks.  I'll check them out.  But they're for Max who needs to study in the
frat house where he's living and it's noisy.  So over the ear might be
better.  He really needs quiet versus music and he mentioned noise
cancelers.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:43 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones

Hi Rocky,

I bought a pair of JBuds J2 Premium Noise Isolating earplugs.  Notice 'noise
isolating' instead of 'noise cancelling'.  They don't actively cancel any
noise, but the soft insert does a good job of quieting the outside noise.

The sound quality on these is really impressive.  The ear plug is about 1/2"
long, which provides room for a sound 'chamber', which produces really good
bass for such a small device.  These are the best ear plugs I've ever
listened to!

They cost about $14 on Amazon, and come in a variety of colors.

Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:40 AM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones

Anybody have experience with noise canceling headphones and can tell me
what's a good product?

The Bose brand is like 2-3x the cost of anything else.  Could they really be
that much better?

TIA

Rocky

 


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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 11:33:21 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:33:21 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
In-Reply-To: <F464A7E86F904571B464B7D4DB355CD2@HAL9005>
References: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>
	<C496FCCDCBD44A45815F354291B979BF@danwaters>
	<F464A7E86F904571B464B7D4DB355CD2@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912180933w1ed2cf8cvf9f28f3db144721d@mail.gmail.com>

I personally can't tolerate the "In Ear" headphones. OK for a bit but
they get to me after a while. Maybe if I toughed though it I would
build up a tolerance.

GK

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Thanks. ?I'll check them out. ?But they're for Max who needs to study in the
> frat house where he's living and it's noisy. ?So over the ear might be
> better. ?He really needs quiet versus music and he mentioned noise
> cancelers.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:43 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
>
> Hi Rocky,
>
> I bought a pair of JBuds J2 Premium Noise Isolating earplugs. ?Notice 'noise
> isolating' instead of 'noise cancelling'. ?They don't actively cancel any
> noise, but the soft insert does a good job of quieting the outside noise.
>
> The sound quality on these is really impressive. ?The ear plug is about 1/2"
> long, which provides room for a sound 'chamber', which produces really good
> bass for such a small device. ?These are the best ear plugs I've ever
> listened to!
>
> They cost about $14 on Amazon, and come in a variety of colors.
>
> Good Luck!
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:40 AM
> To: 'Off Topic'; List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
>
> Anybody have experience with noise canceling headphones and can tell me
> what's a good product?
>
> The Bose brand is like 2-3x the cost of anything else. ?Could they really be
> that much better?
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Dec 18 11:38:31 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:38:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
In-Reply-To: <F464A7E86F904571B464B7D4DB355CD2@HAL9005>
References: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005><C496FCCDCBD44A45815F354291B979BF@danwaters>
	<F464A7E86F904571B464B7D4DB355CD2@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <32AB9170A6674AE5B1123963BA51CEF1@danwaters>

Those are definitely more expensive.  They have the ability to detect what
the outside sound is, and play the opposite sound, thus making things
actually quiet.

I think these are less than they used to be, but still a little costly.  I
do use Amazon comments extensively to learn about products and to gauge how
good a particular one is.

Dan  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:03 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones

Thanks.  I'll check them out.  But they're for Max who needs to study in the
frat house where he's living and it's noisy.  So over the ear might be
better.  He really needs quiet versus music and he mentioned noise
cancelers.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:43 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones

Hi Rocky,

I bought a pair of JBuds J2 Premium Noise Isolating earplugs.  Notice 'noise
isolating' instead of 'noise cancelling'.  They don't actively cancel any
noise, but the soft insert does a good job of quieting the outside noise.

The sound quality on these is really impressive.  The ear plug is about 1/2"
long, which provides room for a sound 'chamber', which produces really good
bass for such a small device.  These are the best ear plugs I've ever
listened to!

They cost about $14 on Amazon, and come in a variety of colors.

Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:40 AM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones

Anybody have experience with noise canceling headphones and can tell me
what's a good product?

The Bose brand is like 2-3x the cost of anything else.  Could they really be
that much better?

TIA

Rocky

 


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From kens.programming at verizon.net  Fri Dec 18 11:43:36 2009
From: kens.programming at verizon.net (kens.programming)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:43:36 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
In-Reply-To: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>
References: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <51EB0C9AE4154D41AEAAC79AA30D48E3@STOKER.com>

Rocky,

I have purchased the Sharper Image Quiet Place headphones for myself and my
wife and found them to be excellent, and for 1/3 the price of the Bose.  I
know Sharper Image is going through bankruptcy but I am currently looking at
them on ebay right now to purchase a pair for my mother for Christmas this
year as she has expressed interest in a pair of "Bose-like noise cancelling
headphones", to use her words.

Thanks
 
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:40 AM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones

Anybody have experience with noise canceling headphones and can tell me
what's a good product?

The Bose brand is like 2-3x the cost of anything else.  Could they really be
that much better?

TIA

Rocky

 




From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Dec 18 11:49:35 2009
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:49:35 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
In-Reply-To: <51EB0C9AE4154D41AEAAC79AA30D48E3@STOKER.com>
References: <488D49A3E989432B9F539A8D6D27EEA7@HAL9005>
	<51EB0C9AE4154D41AEAAC79AA30D48E3@STOKER.com>
Message-ID: <4B2BC0AF.2040008@earthlink.net>

For pop music this doesn't matter, but for other sorts of music it's 
crucial: doesn't Bose technology destroy the original soundstage image 
in favour of an "enhanced" soundstage image?

PB

----

kens.programming wrote:
> Rocky,
>
> I have purchased the Sharper Image Quiet Place headphones for myself and my
> wife and found them to be excellent, and for 1/3 the price of the Bose.  I
> know Sharper Image is going through bankruptcy but I am currently looking at
> them on ebay right now to purchase a pair for my mother for Christmas this
> year as she has expressed interest in a pair of "Bose-like noise cancelling
> headphones", to use her words.
>
> Thanks
>  
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:40 AM
> To: 'Off Topic'; List
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Noise canceling headphones
>
> Anybody have experience with noise canceling headphones and can tell me
> what's a good product?
>
> The Bose brand is like 2-3x the cost of anything else.  Could they really be
> that much better?
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky
>
>  
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From john at winhaven.net  Sat Dec 19 00:16:29 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:16:29 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Home Server Trouble
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912180806y66c46822p71e152c85ef66980@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aea6c4950912180806y66c46822p71e152c85ef66980@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008201ca8072$cd92af90$68b80eb0$@net>

Hey Gary, 
If it's anything like my Acer WHS you can just push the power button and it
will recycle and the red light will be gone. Red light for means it needs to
be rebooted because of an update.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:06 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Home Server Trouble

Not looking for help here so much as just whining.

My HP Mediasmart server running Windows Home Server is not working.
It's headless - no monitor, keyboard or CD/DVD drive on it and it
won't allow me to bring up the Server Console from my main machine. It
has a RED status indicator.  I first noticed that red indicator last
night just before i went to bed and I rather than investigate it then
I decided to give it until morning to try and resolve it itselt.
Really didn't expect that to happen. This morning it was still that
way and I did a search of the HP support info when I got to the office
and it has instructed me to push a paper clip into a hole on the front
of the box and read the codes. Most of the codes indicate I will need
to "Contact HP Support" so it's not looking good.

I've had it for two years I think and really haven't had any previous
issues with it. It's been faithfully backing up all my systems nightly
during that time. I've restored an entire drive and some selected
files from those backups.

Just kind of freaking that I can't log into it. Kind of a helpless feeling.

But since I'm not in a spot that any of my other systems are failing
right now I guess the timing is as good as any. Now that statement
will put the pressure on for getting it up and running again.

Something else to play with I guess. Not a problem but an opportunity.

-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 06:11:50 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:11:50 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Home Server Trouble
In-Reply-To: <008201ca8072$cd92af90$68b80eb0$@net>
References: <aea6c4950912180806y66c46822p71e152c85ef66980@mail.gmail.com>
	<008201ca8072$cd92af90$68b80eb0$@net>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912190411v6307c8edi29ae582995948533@mail.gmail.com>

I had rebooted it a few times so no such luck.

The error code indicated.... nothing actually, So I resorted to the
"Server Recovery" CD and that has got me going again. Basically
reinstalled Windows Server. All the data appears to be there but I had
to re enter all the users and it doesn't seem to recognize any of my
systems anymore so I've had to uninstall and reinstall the client
software on - well only on my main system and my laptop so far. Still
have Marty's laptops - old and new - and my old desktop and the home
Theater PC to do that on.

I did configure the remote access this time which I had not the first
time so maybe I will make some use of that and there will be a benefit
to the exercise.

GK

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:16 AM, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> Hey Gary,
> If it's anything like my Acer WHS you can just push the power button and it
> will recycle and the red light will be gone. Red light for means it needs to
> be rebooted because of an update.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:06 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Home Server Trouble
>
> Not looking for help here so much as just whining.
>
> My HP Mediasmart server running Windows Home Server is not working.
> It's headless - no monitor, keyboard or CD/DVD drive on it and it
> won't allow me to bring up the Server Console from my main machine. It
> has a RED status indicator. ?I first noticed that red indicator last
> night just before i went to bed and I rather than investigate it then
> I decided to give it until morning to try and resolve it itselt.
> Really didn't expect that to happen. This morning it was still that
> way and I did a search of the HP support info when I got to the office
> and it has instructed me to push a paper clip into a hole on the front
> of the box and read the codes. Most of the codes indicate I will need
> to "Contact HP Support" so it's not looking good.
>
> I've had it for two years I think and really haven't had any previous
> issues with it. It's been faithfully backing up all my systems nightly
> during that time. I've restored an entire drive and some selected
> files from those backups.
>
> Just kind of freaking that I can't log into it. Kind of a helpless feeling.
>
> But since I'm not in a spot that any of my other systems are failing
> right now I guess the timing is as good as any. Now that statement
> will put the pressure on for getting it up and running again.
>
> Something else to play with I guess. Not a problem but an opportunity.
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
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-- 
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garykjos at gmail.com



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 15:24:39 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:24:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Good article from Tina!
Message-ID: <97068B20D38D4BB29EA6D7401F3AC1B4@SusanOne>

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=1253&alertspromo=100907&tag=nl.rSINGLE

Susan H. 



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Mon Dec 21 16:19:15 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:19:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Good article from Tina!
In-Reply-To: <97068B20D38D4BB29EA6D7401F3AC1B4@SusanOne>
References: <97068B20D38D4BB29EA6D7401F3AC1B4@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B2FF463.6050600@torchlake.com>

Susan,
Nice of you to credit me with this, but you wrote the article.  I just 
provided some information for it.
T

Susan Harkins wrote:
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=1253&alertspromo=100907&tag=nl.rSINGLE
>
> Susan H. 
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 10:23:17 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:23:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
Message-ID: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne>

A few times a month, I receive emails that contain longs lists -- and the 
format is never the same. I must then copy those lists into an Excel 
spreadsheet. It is time consuming. :(

I'm going to play around with this today and see if I can't find some kind 
of shortcut by copying it into Word first... but there's got to be a better 
way than just pasting each item individually into an Excel cell.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Susan H. 



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Dec 26 10:41:39 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:41:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne>
References: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B363CC3.9050002@torchlake.com>

Hi Susan,

If you copy the lists into a Word document, are they such that it would 
be easy to use Table>Convert>Ttext to table?  If so, then the new table 
would be easy to export into Excel. 

Hope you had a wonderful day, yesterday - I did.

T

Susan Harkins wrote:
> A few times a month, I receive emails that contain longs lists -- and the 
> format is never the same. I must then copy those lists into an Excel 
> spreadsheet. It is time consuming. :(
>
> I'm going to play around with this today and see if I can't find some kind 
> of shortcut by copying it into Word first... but there's got to be a better 
> way than just pasting each item individually into an Excel cell.
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Susan H. 
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>   


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 12:02:13 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:02:13 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
References: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne>
	<4B363CC3.9050002@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne>

The problem is that there's no consistent format -- responders just type as 
they like. I have to cut and paste into Word where I delete hard returns. 
Then, I paste into an Excel cell -- that works Okay but is a real pia when 
there's a lot of comments.

I really don't think there's an easier way other than to convince the powers 
that be that a web app is the way to go! ;) That would eliminate 99% of the 
work, but would cost money to develop.

Susan H.


> Hi Susan,
>
> If you copy the lists into a Word document, are they such that it would
> be easy to use Table>Convert>Ttext to table?  If so, then the new table
> would be easy to export into Excel.
>
> Hope you had a wonderful day, yesterday - I did.
>
> T
>
> Susan Harkins wrote:
>> A few times a month, I receive emails that contain longs lists -- and the
>> format is never the same. I must then copy those lists into an Excel
>> spreadsheet. It is time consuming. :(
>>
>> I'm going to play around with this today and see if I can't find some 
>> kind
>> of shortcut by copying it into Word first... but there's got to be a 
>> better
>> way than just pasting each item individually into an Excel cell.
>>
>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 12:42:24 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:42:24 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne>
References: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne>	<4B363CC3.9050002@torchlake.com>
	<BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4b365921.0f67f10a.0e4d.1c51@mx.google.com>

Susan,
Hi, hope you have had a nice Xmas.

It you get the entries into a web  form then it is an easy matter to send
that to an email and parse the entries out  into Access.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 26 December 2009 18:02
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet

The problem is that there's no consistent format -- responders just type as 
they like. I have to cut and paste into Word where I delete hard returns. 
Then, I paste into an Excel cell -- that works Okay but is a real pia when 
there's a lot of comments.

I really don't think there's an easier way other than to convince the powers

that be that a web app is the way to go! ;) That would eliminate 99% of the 
work, but would cost money to develop.

Susan H.


> Hi Susan,
>
> If you copy the lists into a Word document, are they such that it would
> be easy to use Table>Convert>Ttext to table?  If so, then the new table
> would be easy to export into Excel.
>
> Hope you had a wonderful day, yesterday - I did.
>
> T
>
> Susan Harkins wrote:
>> A few times a month, I receive emails that contain longs lists -- and the
>> format is never the same. I must then copy those lists into an Excel
>> spreadsheet. It is time consuming. :(
>>
>> I'm going to play around with this today and see if I can't find some 
>> kind
>> of shortcut by copying it into Word first... but there's got to be a 
>> better
>> way than just pasting each item individually into an Excel cell.
>>
>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Dec 26 12:57:07 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:57:07 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne>
References: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne><4B363CC3.9050002@torchlake.com>
	<BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <AC014C6440AA43F596FB5CA180D8EDDE@HAL9005>

Another option being used by one of my clients is to supply the customers
with a template - they use excel but I suppose you could use Word.

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:02 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet

The problem is that there's no consistent format -- responders just type as
they like. I have to cut and paste into Word where I delete hard returns. 
Then, I paste into an Excel cell -- that works Okay but is a real pia when
there's a lot of comments.

I really don't think there's an easier way other than to convince the powers
that be that a web app is the way to go! ;) That would eliminate 99% of the
work, but would cost money to develop.

Susan H.


> Hi Susan,
>
> If you copy the lists into a Word document, are they such that it 
> would be easy to use Table>Convert>Ttext to table?  If so, then the 
> new table would be easy to export into Excel.
>
> Hope you had a wonderful day, yesterday - I did.
>
> T
>
> Susan Harkins wrote:
>> A few times a month, I receive emails that contain longs lists -- and 
>> the format is never the same. I must then copy those lists into an 
>> Excel spreadsheet. It is time consuming. :(
>>
>> I'm going to play around with this today and see if I can't find some 
>> kind of shortcut by copying it into Word first... but there's got to 
>> be a better way than just pasting each item individually into an 
>> Excel cell.
>>
>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 13:06:23 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:06:23 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
References: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne>	<4B363CC3.9050002@torchlake.com><BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne>
	<4b365921.0f67f10a.0e4d.1c51@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <0B6718DA944C4B10A7CF7AA1E30AD374@SusanOne>

We had a nice holiday -- thank you. :) Same to you!

Actually, with a web application, we don't even need email, a spreadsheet, 
or Access. Everything could be entered, viewed, filtered, via a browser. 
(Well, we'd need a database to store the actually data of course.) It seems 
like the right way to go to me and it wouldn't be a complicated application. 
Just getting the people who pay the bills to listen to me...

Susan H.


> Susan,
> Hi, hope you have had a nice Xmas.
>
> It you get the entries into a web  form then it is an easy matter to send
> that to an email and parse the entries out  into Access.



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 13:07:28 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:07:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
References: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne><4B363CC3.9050002@torchlake.com><BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne>
	<AC014C6440AA43F596FB5CA180D8EDDE@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <3EA84FAB566D48FEACB0365DC015B2D6@SusanOne>

I hadn't really thought of that, but that forces our reviewers to have a 
specific piece of software -- wonder if google docs would be an option? I 
hadn't thought of that -- thanks Rocky.

Susan H.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet


> Another option being used by one of my clients is to supply the customers
> with a template - they use excel but I suppose you could use Word.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:02 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
>
> The problem is that there's no consistent format -- responders just type 
> as
> they like. I have to cut and paste into Word where I delete hard returns.
> Then, I paste into an Excel cell -- that works Okay but is a real pia when
> there's a lot of comments.
>
> I really don't think there's an easier way other than to convince the 
> powers
> that be that a web app is the way to go! ;) That would eliminate 99% of 
> the
> work, but would cost money to develop.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>> Hi Susan,
>>
>> If you copy the lists into a Word document, are they such that it
>> would be easy to use Table>Convert>Ttext to table?  If so, then the
>> new table would be easy to export into Excel.
>>
>> Hope you had a wonderful day, yesterday - I did.
>>
>> T
>>
>> Susan Harkins wrote:
>>> A few times a month, I receive emails that contain longs lists -- and
>>> the format is never the same. I must then copy those lists into an
>>> Excel spreadsheet. It is time consuming. :(
>>>
>>> I'm going to play around with this today and see if I can't find some
>>> kind of shortcut by copying it into Word first... but there's got to
>>> be a better way than just pasting each item individually into an
>>> Excel cell.
>>>
>>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Susan H.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
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>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Dec 26 14:34:23 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:34:23 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <3EA84FAB566D48FEACB0365DC015B2D6@SusanOne>
References: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne><4B363CC3.9050002@torchlake.com><BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne><AC014C6440AA43F596FB5CA180D8EDDE@HAL9005>
	<3EA84FAB566D48FEACB0365DC015B2D6@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <32606529C2114F81AC1EBD1047CA899D@HAL9005>

Almost everybody's got Word and Excel yes?  Or how about Open Office?   

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 11:07 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet

I hadn't really thought of that, but that forces our reviewers to have a
specific piece of software -- wonder if google docs would be an option? I
hadn't thought of that -- thanks Rocky.

Susan H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet


> Another option being used by one of my clients is to supply the customers
> with a template - they use excel but I suppose you could use Word.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:02 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
>
> The problem is that there's no consistent format -- responders just type 
> as
> they like. I have to cut and paste into Word where I delete hard returns.
> Then, I paste into an Excel cell -- that works Okay but is a real pia when
> there's a lot of comments.
>
> I really don't think there's an easier way other than to convince the 
> powers
> that be that a web app is the way to go! ;) That would eliminate 99% of 
> the
> work, but would cost money to develop.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>> Hi Susan,
>>
>> If you copy the lists into a Word document, are they such that it
>> would be easy to use Table>Convert>Ttext to table?  If so, then the
>> new table would be easy to export into Excel.
>>
>> Hope you had a wonderful day, yesterday - I did.
>>
>> T
>>
>> Susan Harkins wrote:
>>> A few times a month, I receive emails that contain longs lists -- and
>>> the format is never the same. I must then copy those lists into an
>>> Excel spreadsheet. It is time consuming. :(
>>>
>>> I'm going to play around with this today and see if I can't find some
>>> kind of shortcut by copying it into Word first... but there's got to
>>> be a better way than just pasting each item individually into an
>>> Excel cell.
>>>
>>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Susan H.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 14:56:08 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:56:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
References: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne><4B363CC3.9050002@torchlake.com><BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne><AC014C6440AA43F596FB5CA180D8EDDE@HAL9005><3EA84FAB566D48FEACB0365DC015B2D6@SusanOne>
	<32606529C2114F81AC1EBD1047CA899D@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <5715B30049134DF4848A5CDFBF69A75A@SusanOne>

I'm going to think about it and then try to discuss it with someone/anyone 
who will listen. Right now, the manhours wasted on compiling this stuff is 
just insane.

Susan H.

> Almost everybody's got Word and Excel yes?  Or how about Open Office?



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Dec 26 15:33:20 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:33:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] From body of email to a spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <5715B30049134DF4848A5CDFBF69A75A@SusanOne>
References: <9D8BB41CD72043A0A08F8519AB323700@SusanOne><4B363CC3.9050002@torchlake.com><BDE61708A3094E09B634CC73C4B3D719@SusanOne
	><AC014C6440AA43F596FB5CA180D8EDDE@HAL9005><3EA84FAB566D48FEACB0365DC015B2D6@SusanOne><32606529C2114F81AC1EBD1047CA899D@HAL9005
	> <5715B30049134DF4848A5CDFBF69A75A@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B368120.1040909@torchlake.com>

Hi again Susan,

So, please tell me a little more about what needs doing - what sort of 
stuff is being sent to you via email that you need to organize in an 
Excel workbook?  You mentioned lists - lists of what and in what sort of 
format do these lists generally arrive?  Are there any patterns to 
them?  Could the users be convinced to plug them into a plain text 
document in the right order?  Do you have any way to control the user 
input?  Push some more info my way and I'll put my brain back to work on 
this.
T

Susan Harkins wrote:
> I'm going to think about it and then try to discuss it with someone/anyone 
> who will listen. Right now, the manhours wasted on compiling this stuff is 
> just insane.
>
> Susan H.
>
>   
>> Almost everybody's got Word and Excel yes?  Or how about Open Office?
>>     
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>   


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Dec 27 23:58:01 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:58:01 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Now this is a Library
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912190411v6307c8edi29ae582995948533@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aea6c4950912180806y66c46822p71e152c85ef66980@mail.gmail.com>
	<008201ca8072$cd92af90$68b80eb0$@net>
	<aea6c4950912190411v6307c8edi29ae582995948533@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BA9677370F7B48D196C0729834F89F7A@creativesystemdesigns.com>

This is one of the most incredible libraries I have ever seen...

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-10/ff_walker?currentPage=all
#

Jim



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 09:41:01 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:41:01 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf
Message-ID: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>

I need something to convert doc files to pdf -- and I'll be doing so 
regularly. Because of the confidential nature of what I'm doing, I'm not 
comfortable doing this online or sending it to someone to convert for free. 
Free would be great, but only if I can download it and use it on my system.

If anyone has a multi-license to Acrobat and would like to sell me a piece, 
I'd be glad to do that -- if it's legal. I don't need a lot of 
functionality -- just need to convert docs to pdf and to be able to comment 
in an existing pdf file. I have Acrobat Reader, but you can't do anything 
but view files with it.

Acrobat wants to charge me $100 a year just to convert files -- little 
pricy, but a single license for Acrobat's pretty pricey too, for what little 
I'm going to be doing with it.

Susan H. 



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 09:47:41 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:47:41 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf
In-Reply-To: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
References: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <A73C772C1CFF47DCA722D13B908A8334@HAL9005>

I've been using primo pdf for a long time - free, effective, simple. 

http://www.primopdf.com/index.aspx

There are others - I'm sure other will chime in with their favorites.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:41 AM
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf

I need something to convert doc files to pdf -- and I'll be doing so
regularly. Because of the confidential nature of what I'm doing, I'm not
comfortable doing this online or sending it to someone to convert for free. 
Free would be great, but only if I can download it and use it on my system.

If anyone has a multi-license to Acrobat and would like to sell me a piece,
I'd be glad to do that -- if it's legal. I don't need a lot of functionality
-- just need to convert docs to pdf and to be able to comment in an existing
pdf file. I have Acrobat Reader, but you can't do anything but view files
with it.

Acrobat wants to charge me $100 a year just to convert files -- little
pricy, but a single license for Acrobat's pretty pricey too, for what little
I'm going to be doing with it.

Susan H. 

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 09:53:41 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:53:41 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf
In-Reply-To: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
References: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4b3a260d.0d67f10a.0997.ffffbde8@mx.google.com>

Zillions of freebies around Susan,

I am using CutePDF to output a Doc file as PDF.  It was literally the first
one on the  list that done the job.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 29 December 2009 15:41
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf

I need something to convert doc files to pdf -- and I'll be doing so 
regularly. Because of the confidential nature of what I'm doing, I'm not 
comfortable doing this online or sending it to someone to convert for free. 
Free would be great, but only if I can download it and use it on my system.

If anyone has a multi-license to Acrobat and would like to sell me a piece, 
I'd be glad to do that -- if it's legal. I don't need a lot of 
functionality -- just need to convert docs to pdf and to be able to comment 
in an existing pdf file. I have Acrobat Reader, but you can't do anything 
but view files with it.

Acrobat wants to charge me $100 a year just to convert files -- little 
pricy, but a single license for Acrobat's pretty pricey too, for what little

I'm going to be doing with it.

Susan H. 

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 10:13:56 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:13:56 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf
In-Reply-To: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
References: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912290813wcce85cn766102b42bf70855@mail.gmail.com>

I have used CUTEPDF for many years and have been very happy with it.
It's a printer driver to any application You can save documents in pdf
directly from Office 2007 can't you? Or are they not Office apps?

Neither of those options will allow you to comment in an existing pdf
file though.

As far as I know you need Acrobat to do that.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I need something to convert doc files to pdf -- and I'll be doing so
> regularly. Because of the confidential nature of what I'm doing, I'm not
> comfortable doing this online or sending it to someone to convert for free.
> Free would be great, but only if I can download it and use it on my system.
>
> If anyone has a multi-license to Acrobat and would like to sell me a piece,
> I'd be glad to do that -- if it's legal. I don't need a lot of
> functionality -- just need to convert docs to pdf and to be able to comment
> in an existing pdf file. I have Acrobat Reader, but you can't do anything
> but view files with it.
>
> Acrobat wants to charge me $100 a year just to convert files -- little
> pricy, but a single license for Acrobat's pretty pricey too, for what little
> I'm going to be doing with it.
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 10:27:10 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:27:10 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
Message-ID: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 10:27:26 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:27:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf
References: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
	<aea6c4950912290813wcce85cn766102b42bf70855@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8558F2EC57D4036A3F13C8207F1AE5A@SusanOne>



>I have used CUTEPDF for many years and have been very happy with it.
> It's a printer driver to any application You can save documents in pdf
> directly from Office 2007 can't you? Or are they not Office apps?

=======Yes, I think so, but I don't have 07 installed on this system. I can 
mail it to myself on the other system, but Bill's usually on that one. I've 
recommended CUTEPDF for years, myself, I don't know why I didn't think of 
it.
>
Susan H. 



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Tue Dec 29 10:52:59 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:52:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf
In-Reply-To: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
References: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B3A33EB.8050205@torchlake.com>

Hi Susan,

I saw that others have already recommended CutePDF and PrimoPDF.  PDF995 
is another good freebie.  My scanner software upgrade gave me 
ScanSoftPDFCreate! which is also good - I think it came as part of my 
OmniPage upgrade.  I haven't explored this, yet, but I think the 
OmniPage will let me edit a PDF file.

I've recently run across a free graphics program, Inkscape, that will 
open and edit PDF files. 

Hope this helps,
T



Susan Harkins wrote:
> I need something to convert doc files to pdf -- and I'll be doing so 
> regularly. Because of the confidential nature of what I'm doing, I'm not 
> comfortable doing this online or sending it to someone to convert for free. 
> Free would be great, but only if I can download it and use it on my system.
>
> If anyone has a multi-license to Acrobat and would like to sell me a piece, 
> I'd be glad to do that -- if it's legal. I don't need a lot of 
> functionality -- just need to convert docs to pdf and to be able to comment 
> in an existing pdf file. I have Acrobat Reader, but you can't do anything 
> but view files with it.
>
> Acrobat wants to charge me $100 a year just to convert files -- little 
> pricy, but a single license for Acrobat's pretty pricey too, for what little 
> I'm going to be doing with it.
>
> Susan H. 
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>   


From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 10:57:21 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:57:21 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>

Are the  WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?

Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search help
for  ICS Internet Connection Sharing)

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 




From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 11:24:44 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:24:44 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>

I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago)
I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte
boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to
have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your router
documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on the switch
or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to connecting
additional hubs and or switches.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
>
> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem is that
> I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
> the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on the hub goes to a
> Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
> access to the network and the net through two other XE102s. ?Everything
> works a treat.
>
> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
> an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
> internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
> 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
> invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
> 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>
> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
> ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
> (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
> I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.
>
> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
> ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com



From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 29 11:26:09 2009
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:26:09 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf
In-Reply-To: <4B3A33EB.8050205@torchlake.com>
References: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
	<4B3A33EB.8050205@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <4B3A3BB1.8020406@earthlink.net>

Last time I tried PDF995, it didn't do links properly. Do CutePDF and 
PrimoPDF?

PB

-----

Tina Norris Fields wrote:
> Hi Susan,
>
> I saw that others have already recommended CutePDF and PrimoPDF.  PDF995 
> is another good freebie.  My scanner software upgrade gave me 
> ScanSoftPDFCreate! which is also good - I think it came as part of my 
> OmniPage upgrade.  I haven't explored this, yet, but I think the 
> OmniPage will let me edit a PDF file.
>
> I've recently run across a free graphics program, Inkscape, that will 
> open and edit PDF files. 
>
> Hope this helps,
> T
>
>
>
> Susan Harkins wrote:
>   
>> I need something to convert doc files to pdf -- and I'll be doing so 
>> regularly. Because of the confidential nature of what I'm doing, I'm not 
>> comfortable doing this online or sending it to someone to convert for free. 
>> Free would be great, but only if I can download it and use it on my system.
>>
>> If anyone has a multi-license to Acrobat and would like to sell me a piece, 
>> I'd be glad to do that -- if it's legal. I don't need a lot of 
>> functionality -- just need to convert docs to pdf and to be able to comment 
>> in an existing pdf file. I have Acrobat Reader, but you can't do anything 
>> but view files with it.
>>
>> Acrobat wants to charge me $100 a year just to convert files -- little 
>> pricy, but a single license for Acrobat's pretty pricey too, for what little 
>> I'm going to be doing with it.
>>
>> Susan H. 
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>   
>>     
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
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>
>   


From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 11:42:24 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:42:24 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf
In-Reply-To: <4B3A3BB1.8020406@earthlink.net>
References: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
	<4B3A33EB.8050205@torchlake.com> <4B3A3BB1.8020406@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912290942r4a7c3fb4r2d4bcbcbd9bf66f@mail.gmail.com>

Couldn't tell you that Peter. My documents don't have links in them.

Have a look yourself

http://www.cutepdf.com/

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Peter Brawley
<peter.brawley at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Last time I tried PDF995, it didn't do links properly. Do CutePDF and
> PrimoPDF?
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
> Tina Norris Fields wrote:
>> Hi Susan,
>>
>> I saw that others have already recommended CutePDF and PrimoPDF. ?PDF995
>> is another good freebie. ?My scanner software upgrade gave me
>> ScanSoftPDFCreate! which is also good - I think it came as part of my
>> OmniPage upgrade. ?I haven't explored this, yet, but I think the
>> OmniPage will let me edit a PDF file.
>>
>> I've recently run across a free graphics program, Inkscape, that will
>> open and edit PDF files.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> T
>>
>>
>>
>> Susan Harkins wrote:
>>
>>> I need something to convert doc files to pdf -- and I'll be doing so
>>> regularly. Because of the confidential nature of what I'm doing, I'm not
>>> comfortable doing this online or sending it to someone to convert for free.
>>> Free would be great, but only if I can download it and use it on my system.
>>>
>>> If anyone has a multi-license to Acrobat and would like to sell me a piece,
>>> I'd be glad to do that -- if it's legal. I don't need a lot of
>>> functionality -- just need to convert docs to pdf and to be able to comment
>>> in an existing pdf file. I have Acrobat Reader, but you can't do anything
>>> but view files with it.
>>>
>>> Acrobat wants to charge me $100 a year just to convert files -- little
>>> pricy, but a single license for Acrobat's pretty pricey too, for what little
>>> I'm going to be doing with it.
>>>
>>> Susan H.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2592 - Release Date: 12/29/09 07:47:00
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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>



-- 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 12:40:23 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:40:23 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>
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I have only one network so the sharing tab is not available.  

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Are the  WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?

Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search help
for  ICS Internet Connection Sharing)

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 12:44:46 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:44:46 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005>

Yeah, all the same workgroup.  When I pull the wire from the hub and plug it
into the router it works regardless of machine.  ICS can't be enabled
because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Are the  WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?

Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search help
for  ICS Internet Connection Sharing)

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Dec 29 12:44:29 2009
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:44:29 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf
In-Reply-To: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
References: <0D3BF932C5D0426F9DE1D3D5D4CE7DB7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829502B2388207@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Office 2007/2010

Martin

Martin
Martin WP Reid
Information Services
The Library at Queen's
Tel : 02890976174
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
Sharepoint Training Portal
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at gmail.com]
Sent: 29 December 2009 15:41
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Convert Word docs to pdf

I need something to convert doc files to pdf -- and I'll be doing so
regularly. Because of the confidential nature of what I'm doing, I'm not
comfortable doing this online or sending it to someone to convert for free.
Free would be great, but only if I can download it and use it on my system.

If anyone has a multi-license to Acrobat and would like to sell me a piece,
I'd be glad to do that -- if it's legal. I don't need a lot of
functionality -- just need to convert docs to pdf and to be able to comment
in an existing pdf file. I have Acrobat Reader, but you can't do anything
but view files with it.

Acrobat wants to charge me $100 a year just to convert files -- little
pricy, but a single license for Acrobat's pretty pricey too, for what little
I'm going to be doing with it.

Susan H.

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 12:57:02 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:57:02 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>
	<9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912291057j673dfccep194c136af6ad1b4e@mail.gmail.com>

Have a look here

http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/commands/ipconfig.aspx

You could try to do an ipconfig /all

and then an ipconfig /release

followed by another

ipconfig /all

on the workstation connected to the hub.

You have to do Run and then cmd.exe to get a dos box to do ipconfig

GK
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Yeah, all the same workgroup. ?When I pull the wire from the hub and plug it
> into the router it works regardless of machine. ?ICS can't be enabled
> because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Are the ?WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?
>
> Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search help
> for ?ICS Internet Connection Sharing)
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
> To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem is that
> I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
> the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on the hub goes to a
> Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
> access to the network and the net through two other XE102s. ?Everything
> works a treat.
>
> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
> an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
> internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
> 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
> invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
> 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>
> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
> ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
> (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
> I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.
>
> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
> ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 13:19:19 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:19:19 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <AD30096074BD49AF9AA9B82701A7A33C@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>	<4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>
	<AD30096074BD49AF9AA9B82701A7A33C@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4b3a563e.0e67f10a.1fc4.ffffd071@mx.google.com>

No, not the sharing tab Rocky.  Go to Control Panel/System and you will find
the "workgroup" setting.  These normally default to WORKGROUP or MSHOME but
whatever, they need to be the same.

In the Windows Help, type in "Shared Internet Connection" and follow the
helps which will include the IP settings etc.  Again, this is NOT the
Sharing Tab.



Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 18:40
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

I have only one network so the sharing tab is not available.  

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Are the  WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?

Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search help
for  ICS Internet Connection Sharing)

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 13:21:08 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:21:08 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>	<4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>
	<9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4b3a56ad.1067f10a.37b0.ffffcd42@mx.google.com>

ICS is used where one  computer on the network has access to the internet
and is willing to share that connection with other computers on the network.
I think you are misreading the help dialog.

Max



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 18:45
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Yeah, all the same workgroup.  When I pull the wire from the hub and plug it
into the router it works regardless of machine.  ICS can't be enabled
because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Are the  WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?

Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search help
for  ICS Internet Connection Sharing)

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 14:09:25 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:09:25 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912291057j673dfccep194c136af6ad1b4e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005><4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com><9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291057j673dfccep194c136af6ad1b4e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <75D19076F86E45A6B2F76924EA47A74A@HAL9005>

/Release and /all didn't change anything.  IPv4 address is still
169.254.225.78.  Should be something like 192.168.1.x.

I did ipconfig /renew and got the message "An error occurred while renewing
interface Local Area Connection : unable to contact your DHCP server.
Request has timed out."

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Have a look here

http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/commands/ipconfig.aspx

You could try to do an ipconfig /all

and then an ipconfig /release

followed by another

ipconfig /all

on the workstation connected to the hub.

You have to do Run and then cmd.exe to get a dos box to do ipconfig

GK
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> Yeah, all the same workgroup. ?When I pull the wire from the hub and 
> plug it into the router it works regardless of machine. ?ICS can't be 
> enabled because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max 
> Wanadoo
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Are the ?WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?
>
> Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search 
> help for ?ICS Internet Connection Sharing)
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
> To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem 
> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on 
> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>
> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 
> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of 
> fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>
> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And 
> years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub 
> is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the 
> cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it
worked.
>
> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 14:14:50 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:14:50 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <75D19076F86E45A6B2F76924EA47A74A@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>
	<9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291057j673dfccep194c136af6ad1b4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<75D19076F86E45A6B2F76924EA47A74A@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912291214t2c93cabi62dfb7af360b6de4@mail.gmail.com>

Did you try different ports on the hub?  Maybe one is bad?  But you
said you could get to the other systems from that system even with
that BAD IP address.

Go buy your switch.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> /Release and /all didn't change anything. ?IPv4 address is still
> 169.254.225.78. ?Should be something like 192.168.1.x.
>
> I did ipconfig /renew and got the message "An error occurred while renewing
> interface Local Area Connection : unable to contact your DHCP server.
> Request has timed out."
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Have a look here
>
> http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/commands/ipconfig.aspx
>
> You could try to do an ipconfig /all
>
> and then an ipconfig /release
>
> followed by another
>
> ipconfig /all
>
> on the workstation connected to the hub.
>
> You have to do Run and then cmd.exe to get a dos box to do ipconfig
>
> GK
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>> Yeah, all the same workgroup. ?When I pull the wire from the hub and
>> plug it into the router it works regardless of machine. ?ICS can't be
>> enabled because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max
>> Wanadoo
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> Are the ?WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?
>>
>> Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search
>> help for ?ICS Internet Connection Sharing)
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
>> Smolin
>> Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
>> To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem
>> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I
>> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on
>> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives
>> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net
>> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>>
>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network
>> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is
>> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says
>> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of
>> fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>>
>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And
>> years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub
>> is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the
>> cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it
> worked.
>>
>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the
>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>
>>
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
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>>
>
>
>
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>
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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Dec 29 14:22:11 2009
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:22:11 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <75D19076F86E45A6B2F76924EA47A74A@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005><4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com><9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005><aea6c4950912291057j673dfccep194c136af6ad1b4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<75D19076F86E45A6B2F76924EA47A74A@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>

169.254.x.x is an automatic configuration address - explained here:
http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_i_connect_with_a_169254xx_ip_address.html

Another site
(http://www.pctechbytes.com/network/networkdetail.php?Fix-169.254.x.x-IP-Add
ress-Problem-4) suggests this: 

If the computer network was working then quit:

1. Release and renew the IP Address. Go to Start>Run and type cmd and hit
OK. At the prompt, type ipconfig /release and then reboot. You could just
type ipconfig /renew next, but rebooting is more thorough.
2. If that doesn't work, release the IP again and shutdown. Next power cycle
the modem and router.

A third site (http://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshootingipconfig.htm) says: 

Why do I get 169.254.x.x IP?

Symptom: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved
169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255 for Automatic Private IP Addressing. If the
computer can't get ip from DHCP, APIPA provides an address that is
guaranteed not to conflict with routable addresses.

Resolutions: 1) Make sure you have good connection.
2) Check the hardware and settings.
3) Make sure the DHCP is working.
4) For the test, you can assign static ip. If static ip works, it is
possible DHCP issue. If static ip doesn't work, check the hardware or
connection.
5) WinSock2 stack may be corrupted and need to repair. 

Hope that's of some use!


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 20:09
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

/Release and /all didn't change anything.  IPv4 address is still
169.254.225.78.  Should be something like 192.168.1.x.

I did ipconfig /renew and got the message "An error occurred while renewing
interface Local Area Connection : unable to contact your DHCP server.
Request has timed out."

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Have a look here

http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/commands/ipconfig.aspx

You could try to do an ipconfig /all

and then an ipconfig /release

followed by another

ipconfig /all

on the workstation connected to the hub.

You have to do Run and then cmd.exe to get a dos box to do ipconfig

GK
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> Yeah, all the same workgroup. ?When I pull the wire from the hub and 
> plug it into the router it works regardless of machine. ?ICS can't be 
> enabled because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max 
> Wanadoo
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Are the ?WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?
>
> Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search 
> help for ?ICS Internet Connection Sharing)
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
> To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem 
> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on 
> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>
> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of 
> fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>
> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And 
> years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub 
> is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the 
> cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it
worked.
>
> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



--
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 14:38:46 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:38:46 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com>
	<9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291057j673dfccep194c136af6ad1b4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<75D19076F86E45A6B2F76924EA47A74A@HAL9005>
	<8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912291238s27c7f373pac382efd26c960@mail.gmail.com>

There, a reply from someone who KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING on this
subject, Unlike ME. ;-)

No offense to anyone else who replied to this tread of course. Only
referring to myself with that comment.

Thanks Jon.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Jon Tydda <jon at tydda.plus.com> wrote:
> 169.254.x.x is an automatic configuration address - explained here:
> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_i_connect_with_a_169254xx_ip_address.html
>
> Another site
> (http://www.pctechbytes.com/network/networkdetail.php?Fix-169.254.x.x-IP-Add
> ress-Problem-4) suggests this:
>
> If the computer network was working then quit:
>
> 1. Release and renew the IP Address. Go to Start>Run and type cmd and hit
> OK. At the prompt, type ipconfig /release and then reboot. You could just
> type ipconfig /renew next, but rebooting is more thorough.
> 2. If that doesn't work, release the IP again and shutdown. Next power cycle
> the modem and router.
>
> A third site (http://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshootingipconfig.htm) says:
>
> Why do I get 169.254.x.x IP?
>
> Symptom: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved
> 169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255 for Automatic Private IP Addressing. If the
> computer can't get ip from DHCP, APIPA provides an address that is
> guaranteed not to conflict with routable addresses.
>
> Resolutions: 1) Make sure you have good connection.
> 2) Check the hardware and settings.
> 3) Make sure the DHCP is working.
> 4) For the test, you can assign static ip. If static ip works, it is
> possible DHCP issue. If static ip doesn't work, check the hardware or
> connection.
> 5) WinSock2 stack may be corrupted and need to repair.
>
> Hope that's of some use!
>
>
> Jon


-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 14:39:04 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:39:04 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <4b3a563e.0e67f10a.1fc4.ffffd071@mx.google.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>	<4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com><AD30096074BD49AF9AA9B82701A7A33C@HAL9005>
	<4b3a563e.0e67f10a.1fc4.ffffd071@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <A96D38113B6F46D29124FD07A9FFA2F3@HAL9005>

Workgroup is WORKGROUP - same as for all the comps.  

In the Networking Tab - properties - Obtain IP address automatically is
checked.  I'm sort of reluctant to change that.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:19 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

No, not the sharing tab Rocky.  Go to Control Panel/System and you will find
the "workgroup" setting.  These normally default to WORKGROUP or MSHOME but
whatever, they need to be the same.

In the Windows Help, type in "Shared Internet Connection" and follow the
helps which will include the IP settings etc.  Again, this is NOT the
Sharing Tab.



Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 18:40
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

I have only one network so the sharing tab is not available.  

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Are the  WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?

Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search help
for  ICS Internet Connection Sharing)

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


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From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Dec 29 14:49:02 2009
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:49:02 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912291238s27c7f373pac382efd26c960@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005><4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com><9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005><aea6c4950912291057j673dfccep194c136af6ad1b4e@mail.gmail.com><75D19076F86E45A6B2F76924EA47A74A@HAL9005><8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>
	<aea6c4950912291238s27c7f373pac382efd26c960@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3AAFA6F5D86940929EF83A14CD9910F9@jt2c>

I only knew the first line (about it being an auto cofig address), I just
googled the rest :-P

Very often it's how you phrase your google search that gives you the
answers. They should teach that at school, definitely a useful life skill!


Jon 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: 29 December 2009 20:39
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

There, a reply from someone who KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING on this subject,
Unlike ME. ;-)

No offense to anyone else who replied to this tread of course. Only
referring to myself with that comment.

Thanks Jon.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Jon Tydda <jon at tydda.plus.com> wrote:
> 169.254.x.x is an automatic configuration address - explained here:
> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_i_connect_with_a_169254xx_ip_address.html
>
> Another site
> (http://www.pctechbytes.com/network/networkdetail.php?Fix-169.254.x.x-
> IP-Add
> ress-Problem-4) suggests this:
>
> If the computer network was working then quit:
>
> 1. Release and renew the IP Address. Go to Start>Run and type cmd and 
> hit OK. At the prompt, type ipconfig /release and then reboot. You 
> could just type ipconfig /renew next, but rebooting is more thorough.
> 2. If that doesn't work, release the IP again and shutdown. Next power 
> cycle the modem and router.
>
> A third site (http://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshootingipconfig.htm)
says:
>
> Why do I get 169.254.x.x IP?
>
> Symptom: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved
> 169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255 for Automatic Private IP Addressing. If 
> the computer can't get ip from DHCP, APIPA provides an address that is 
> guaranteed not to conflict with routable addresses.
>
> Resolutions: 1) Make sure you have good connection.
> 2) Check the hardware and settings.
> 3) Make sure the DHCP is working.
> 4) For the test, you can assign static ip. If static ip works, it is 
> possible DHCP issue. If static ip doesn't work, check the hardware or 
> connection.
> 5) WinSock2 stack may be corrupted and need to repair.
>
> Hope that's of some use!
>
>
> Jon


--
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garykjos at gmail.com
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 14:53:19 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:53:19 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005><4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com><9AFE1C54E62245B8908F56EB091BAD0A@HAL9005><aea6c4950912291057j673dfccep194c136af6ad1b4e@mail.gmail.com><75D19076F86E45A6B2F76924EA47A74A@HAL9005>
	<8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>
Message-ID: <49D3F31FD8004B05B3C941DECD1A6894@HAL9005>

Well, the sites describe my problem.  And it's probably the hub because
everything that doesn't work through the hub works through the router.
Sounds like a switch might be a faster solve.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:22 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

169.254.x.x is an automatic configuration address - explained here:
http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_i_connect_with_a_169254xx_ip_address.html

Another site
(http://www.pctechbytes.com/network/networkdetail.php?Fix-169.254.x.x-IP-Add
ress-Problem-4) suggests this: 

If the computer network was working then quit:

1. Release and renew the IP Address. Go to Start>Run and type cmd and hit
OK. At the prompt, type ipconfig /release and then reboot. You could just
type ipconfig /renew next, but rebooting is more thorough.
2. If that doesn't work, release the IP again and shutdown. Next power cycle
the modem and router.

A third site (http://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshootingipconfig.htm) says: 

Why do I get 169.254.x.x IP?

Symptom: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved
169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255 for Automatic Private IP Addressing. If the
computer can't get ip from DHCP, APIPA provides an address that is
guaranteed not to conflict with routable addresses.

Resolutions: 1) Make sure you have good connection.
2) Check the hardware and settings.
3) Make sure the DHCP is working.
4) For the test, you can assign static ip. If static ip works, it is
possible DHCP issue. If static ip doesn't work, check the hardware or
connection.
5) WinSock2 stack may be corrupted and need to repair. 

Hope that's of some use!


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 20:09
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

/Release and /all didn't change anything.  IPv4 address is still
169.254.225.78.  Should be something like 192.168.1.x.

I did ipconfig /renew and got the message "An error occurred while renewing
interface Local Area Connection : unable to contact your DHCP server.
Request has timed out."

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Have a look here

http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/commands/ipconfig.aspx

You could try to do an ipconfig /all

and then an ipconfig /release

followed by another

ipconfig /all

on the workstation connected to the hub.

You have to do Run and then cmd.exe to get a dos box to do ipconfig

GK
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> Yeah, all the same workgroup. ?When I pull the wire from the hub and 
> plug it into the router it works regardless of machine. ?ICS can't be 
> enabled because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max 
> Wanadoo
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Are the ?WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?
>
> Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search 
> help for ?ICS Internet Connection Sharing)
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
> To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem 
> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on 
> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>
> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of 
> fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>
> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And 
> years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub 
> is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the 
> cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it
worked.
>
> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec 29 15:00:27 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:00:27 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <A96D38113B6F46D29124FD07A9FFA2F3@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<4b3a34fa.0d67f10a.0c13.ffffb8a1@mx.google.com><AD30096074BD49AF9AA9B82701A7A33C@HAL9005>
	<4b3a563e.0e67f10a.1fc4.ffffd071@mx.google.com>
	<A96D38113B6F46D29124FD07A9FFA2F3@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DC5@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

When you set the IP address manually it's quite simple. Before you start you should check a couple of IP addresses on your system: the current DNS server, and the current default gateway. Either check which DNS (Domain Name Server) you are using (IPCONFIG /ALL will tell you that) and make a note of it, or Google "fast DNS servers" to find some out there. I use OpenDNS which has IP Addresses 208.67.222.222 and  208.67.220.220. 

IPCONFIG /ALL will also tell you your default gateway: i.e the IP address of your router, usually 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1

So armed with that information you can set up all your computers for manual IP addresses thus..

* Uncheck the 'Obtain IP address automatically' option which will enable all the other input boxes.
* Enter an IP Address for the first computer, say 192.168.1.200
* the Subnet Mask will automatically fill with the value 255.255.255.0
* enter the IP address of the default gateway
* enter the IP addresses of your chosen DNS server

Repeat these steps for all the other computers on the network, choosing different IP addresses for each computer. 

The main advantage of manually assigning IP addresses that I see is a reduction in IP Address clashes. This is usually caused by someone hibernating (or suspending) a computer. While that computer is off-line, if a new computer hooks up it will ask for an IP address, and it may very well be given the same IP address as the hibernated machine. When that machine wakes up both users will start to get IP address conflicts.

So, when manually assigning IP addresses, use those in the higher range that your router is set up to dish out. That way, guest computers that connect can use automatic IP address assignment, and they will be given addresses in the lower range, thus avoiding conflicts.

HTH

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:39 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Workgroup is WORKGROUP - same as for all the comps.  

In the Networking Tab - properties - Obtain IP address automatically is checked.  I'm sort of reluctant to change that.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:19 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

No, not the sharing tab Rocky.  Go to Control Panel/System and you will find the "workgroup" setting.  These normally default to WORKGROUP or MSHOME but whatever, they need to be the same.

In the Windows Help, type in "Shared Internet Connection" and follow the helps which will include the IP settings etc.  Again, this is NOT the Sharing Tab.



Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 18:40
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

I have only one network so the sharing tab is not available.  

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Are the  WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?

Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search help for  ICS Internet Connection Sharing)

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Dec 29 17:27:16 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:27:16 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <49D3F31FD8004B05B3C941DECD1A6894@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>,
	<8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>,
	<49D3F31FD8004B05B3C941DECD1A6894@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4B3A9054.4613.385D866@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

If it's an old hub, the ports are probably not "auto-configuring".   You may need a "cross-over 
cable" to connect the hub to the router (unless on of the ports on it is marked as a cross-
over port - in which case, use that one to connect to the router)..



-- 
Stuart



On 29 Dec 2009 at 12:53, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Well, the sites describe my problem.  And it's probably the hub because
> everything that doesn't work through the hub works through the router.
> Sounds like a switch might be a faster solve.
> 
> R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:22 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> 
> 169.254.x.x is an automatic configuration address - explained here:
> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_i_connect_with_a_169254xx_ip_address.html
> 
> Another site
> (http://www.pctechbytes.com/network/networkdetail.php?Fix-169.254.x.x-IP-Add
> ress-Problem-4) suggests this: 
> 
> If the computer network was working then quit:
> 
> 1. Release and renew the IP Address. Go to Start>Run and type cmd and hit
> OK. At the prompt, type ipconfig /release and then reboot. You could just
> type ipconfig /renew next, but rebooting is more thorough.
> 2. If that doesn't work, release the IP again and shutdown. Next power cycle
> the modem and router.
> 
> A third site (http://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshootingipconfig.htm) says: 
> 
> Why do I get 169.254.x.x IP?
> 
> Symptom: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved
> 169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255 for Automatic Private IP Addressing. If the
> computer can't get ip from DHCP, APIPA provides an address that is
> guaranteed not to conflict with routable addresses.
> 
> Resolutions: 1) Make sure you have good connection.
> 2) Check the hardware and settings.
> 3) Make sure the DHCP is working.
> 4) For the test, you can assign static ip. If static ip works, it is
> possible DHCP issue. If static ip doesn't work, check the hardware or
> connection.
> 5) WinSock2 stack may be corrupted and need to repair. 
> 
> Hope that's of some use!
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: 29 December 2009 20:09
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> 
> /Release and /all didn't change anything.  IPv4 address is still
> 169.254.225.78.  Should be something like 192.168.1.x.
> 
> I did ipconfig /renew and got the message "An error occurred while renewing
> interface Local Area Connection : unable to contact your DHCP server.
> Request has timed out."
> 
> R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> 
> Have a look here
> 
> http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/commands/ipconfig.aspx
> 
> You could try to do an ipconfig /all
> 
> and then an ipconfig /release
> 
> followed by another
> 
> ipconfig /all
> 
> on the workstation connected to the hub.
> 
> You have to do Run and then cmd.exe to get a dos box to do ipconfig
> 
> GK
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
> > Yeah, all the same workgroup. ?When I pull the wire from the hub and 
> > plug it into the router it works regardless of machine. ?ICS can't be 
> > enabled because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).
> >
> > R
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max 
> > Wanadoo
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> >
> > Are the ?WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?
> >
> > Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search 
> > help for ?ICS Internet Connection Sharing)
> >
> > Max
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> > Smolin
> > Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
> > To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem 
> > is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
> > connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on 
> > the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
> > another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
> > through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
> >
> > But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
> > cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
> > but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
> > connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
> > that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of 
> > fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
> >
> > Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And 
> > years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub 
> > is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the 
> > cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it
> worked.
> >
> > Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
> > empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
> >
> >
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> >
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
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> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> 
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> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 19:24:47 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:24:47 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <4B3A9054.4613.385D866@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>,
	<8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>,
	<49D3F31FD8004B05B3C941DECD1A6894@HAL9005>
	<4B3A9054.4613.385D866@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <A26C038A9A9049BAAFE2388FA2FDCD09@HAL9005>

No crossover but one of the post is labeled Link with a button next to it
normal/uplink.  It's set to uplink. And that port is the one connected to
the router.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:27 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

If it's an old hub, the ports are probably not "auto-configuring".   You may
need a "cross-over 
cable" to connect the hub to the router (unless on of the ports on it is
marked as a cross- over port - in which case, use that one to connect to the
router)..



--
Stuart



On 29 Dec 2009 at 12:53, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Well, the sites describe my problem.  And it's probably the hub because
> everything that doesn't work through the hub works through the router.
> Sounds like a switch might be a faster solve.
> 
> R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:22 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> 
> 169.254.x.x is an automatic configuration address - explained here:
> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_i_connect_with_a_169254xx_ip_address.html
> 
> Another site
>
(http://www.pctechbytes.com/network/networkdetail.php?Fix-169.254.x.x-IP-Add
> ress-Problem-4) suggests this: 
> 
> If the computer network was working then quit:
> 
> 1. Release and renew the IP Address. Go to Start>Run and type cmd and hit
> OK. At the prompt, type ipconfig /release and then reboot. You could just
> type ipconfig /renew next, but rebooting is more thorough.
> 2. If that doesn't work, release the IP again and shutdown. Next power
cycle
> the modem and router.
> 
> A third site (http://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshootingipconfig.htm)
says: 
> 
> Why do I get 169.254.x.x IP?
> 
> Symptom: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved
> 169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255 for Automatic Private IP Addressing. If the
> computer can't get ip from DHCP, APIPA provides an address that is
> guaranteed not to conflict with routable addresses.
> 
> Resolutions: 1) Make sure you have good connection.
> 2) Check the hardware and settings.
> 3) Make sure the DHCP is working.
> 4) For the test, you can assign static ip. If static ip works, it is
> possible DHCP issue. If static ip doesn't work, check the hardware or
> connection.
> 5) WinSock2 stack may be corrupted and need to repair. 
> 
> Hope that's of some use!
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: 29 December 2009 20:09
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> 
> /Release and /all didn't change anything.  IPv4 address is still
> 169.254.225.78.  Should be something like 192.168.1.x.
> 
> I did ipconfig /renew and got the message "An error occurred while
renewing
> interface Local Area Connection : unable to contact your DHCP server.
> Request has timed out."
> 
> R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> 
> Have a look here
> 
> http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/commands/ipconfig.aspx
> 
> You could try to do an ipconfig /all
> 
> and then an ipconfig /release
> 
> followed by another
> 
> ipconfig /all
> 
> on the workstation connected to the hub.
> 
> You have to do Run and then cmd.exe to get a dos box to do ipconfig
> 
> GK
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
> > Yeah, all the same workgroup. ?When I pull the wire from the hub and 
> > plug it into the router it works regardless of machine. ?ICS can't be 
> > enabled because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).
> >
> > R
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max 
> > Wanadoo
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> >
> > Are the ?WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?
> >
> > Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search 
> > help for ?ICS Internet Connection Sharing)
> >
> > Max
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> > Smolin
> > Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
> > To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem 
> > is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
> > connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on 
> > the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
> > another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
> > through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
> >
> > But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
> > cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
> > but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
> > connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
> > that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of 
> > fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
> >
> > Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And 
> > years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub 
> > is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the 
> > cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it
> worked.
> >
> > Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
> > empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
> >
> >
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> >
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Dec 30 02:05:43 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:05:43 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
Message-ID: <sb3b1807.029@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

True. 10/100 stuff can be obtained by collecting it.

/gustav

>>> garykjos at gmail.com 29-12-2009 22:08 >>>

.. Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. 




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Dec 30 02:12:02 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:12:02 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
Message-ID: <sb3b196f.030@cactus.dk>

Hi Lambert

I think this is not seen often. Modern DHCP servers like those in most routers maintain an ARP table of MAC addresses and their lastly assigned IP addresses and assign these as long as the DHCP pool is larger than workstations trying to obtain an address.

/gustav

>>> Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com 29-12-2009 22:00 >>>

The main advantage of manually assigning IP addresses that I see is a reduction in IP Address clashes. This is usually caused by someone hibernating (or suspending) a computer. While that computer is off-line, if a new computer hooks up it will ask for an IP address, and it may very well be given the same IP address as the hibernated machine. When that machine wakes up both users will start to get IP address conflicts.





From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Wed Dec 30 02:58:26 2009
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:58:26 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <A26C038A9A9049BAAFE2388FA2FDCD09@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>,
	<8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>,
	<49D3F31FD8004B05B3C941DECD1A6894@HAL9005>
	<4B3A9054.4613.385D866@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<A26C038A9A9049BAAFE2388FA2FDCD09@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207C6F86406@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>

Try pressing the button, and setting it to normal. That should solve the problem.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:25 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

No crossover but one of the post is labeled Link with a button next to it normal/uplink.  It's set to uplink. And that port is the one connected to the router.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:27 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

If it's an old hub, the ports are probably not "auto-configuring".   You may
need a "cross-over
cable" to connect the hub to the router (unless on of the ports on it is marked as a cross- over port - in which case, use that one to connect to the router)..



--
Stuart



On 29 Dec 2009 at 12:53, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Well, the sites describe my problem.  And it's probably the hub because
> everything that doesn't work through the hub works through the router.
> Sounds like a switch might be a faster solve.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:22 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> 169.254.x.x is an automatic configuration address - explained here:
> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_i_connect_with_a_169254xx_ip_address.html
>
> Another site
>
(http://www.pctechbytes.com/network/networkdetail.php?Fix-169.254.x.x-IP-Add
> ress-Problem-4) suggests this:
>
> If the computer network was working then quit:
>
> 1. Release and renew the IP Address. Go to Start>Run and type cmd and hit
> OK. At the prompt, type ipconfig /release and then reboot. You could just
> type ipconfig /renew next, but rebooting is more thorough.
> 2. If that doesn't work, release the IP again and shutdown. Next power
cycle
> the modem and router.
>
> A third site (http://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshootingipconfig.htm)
says:
>
> Why do I get 169.254.x.x IP?
>
> Symptom: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved
> 169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255 for Automatic Private IP Addressing. If the
> computer can't get ip from DHCP, APIPA provides an address that is
> guaranteed not to conflict with routable addresses.
>
> Resolutions: 1) Make sure you have good connection.
> 2) Check the hardware and settings.
> 3) Make sure the DHCP is working.
> 4) For the test, you can assign static ip. If static ip works, it is
> possible DHCP issue. If static ip doesn't work, check the hardware or
> connection.
> 5) WinSock2 stack may be corrupted and need to repair.
>
> Hope that's of some use!
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: 29 December 2009 20:09
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> /Release and /all didn't change anything.  IPv4 address is still
> 169.254.225.78.  Should be something like 192.168.1.x.
>
> I did ipconfig /renew and got the message "An error occurred while
renewing
> interface Local Area Connection : unable to contact your DHCP server.
> Request has timed out."
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Have a look here
>
> http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/commands/ipconfig.aspx
>
> You could try to do an ipconfig /all
>
> and then an ipconfig /release
>
> followed by another
>
> ipconfig /all
>
> on the workstation connected to the hub.
>
> You have to do Run and then cmd.exe to get a dos box to do ipconfig
>
> GK
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
> > Yeah, all the same workgroup.  When I pull the wire from the hub and
> > plug it into the router it works regardless of machine.  ICS can't be
> > enabled because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).
> >
> > R
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max
> > Wanadoo
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> >
> > Are the  WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?
> >
> > Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled (search
> > help for  ICS Internet Connection Sharing)
> >
> > Max
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin
> > Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
> > To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem
> > is that I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I
> > connected one of the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on
> > the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives
> > another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net
> > through two other XE102s.  Everything works a treat.
> >
> > But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
> > cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network
> > but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is
> > connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says
> > that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of
> > fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
> >
> > Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And
> > years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub
> > is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the
> > cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it
> worked.
> >
> > Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the
> > empty ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?
> >
> >
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> >
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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> >
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> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 09:35:19 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:35:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] SharePoint 2010 Workflows
Message-ID: <05A0606BCD5B4713A5CFD3A688D291A4@SusanOne>

Anyone with a solid expertise in SharePoint 2010 Workflows -- not a paying 
job or anything, but looking for folks with good knowledge to review a work 
in progress.

Susan H. 



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Dec 30 11:31:05 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:31:05 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207C6F86406@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>,
	<8DC04E61871348E8972914BF3A90063F@jt2c>,
	<49D3F31FD8004B05B3C941DECD1A6894@HAL9005><4B3A9054.4613.385D866@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><A26C038A9A9049BAAFE2388FA2FDCD09@HAL9005>
	<A750CC0AAE63CB489C58478FF67DE63207C6F86406@chvex03.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <7F546B4A0317480DA998D764A5DDE2E2@HAL9005>

No soap.  Normal or uplink - no difference.

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Slough
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:58 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Try pressing the button, and setting it to normal. That should solve the
problem.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:25 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

No crossover but one of the post is labeled Link with a button next to it
normal/uplink.  It's set to uplink. And that port is the one connected to
the router.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:27 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

If it's an old hub, the ports are probably not "auto-configuring".   You may
need a "cross-over
cable" to connect the hub to the router (unless on of the ports on it is
marked as a cross- over port - in which case, use that one to connect to the
router)..



--
Stuart



On 29 Dec 2009 at 12:53, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Well, the sites describe my problem.  And it's probably the hub 
> because everything that doesn't work through the hub works through the
router.
> Sounds like a switch might be a faster solve.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:22 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> 169.254.x.x is an automatic configuration address - explained here:
> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_i_connect_with_a_169254xx_ip_address.html
>
> Another site
>
(http://www.pctechbytes.com/network/networkdetail.php?Fix-169.254.x.x-IP-Add
> ress-Problem-4) suggests this:
>
> If the computer network was working then quit:
>
> 1. Release and renew the IP Address. Go to Start>Run and type cmd and 
> hit OK. At the prompt, type ipconfig /release and then reboot. You 
> could just type ipconfig /renew next, but rebooting is more thorough.
> 2. If that doesn't work, release the IP again and shutdown. Next power
cycle
> the modem and router.
>
> A third site (http://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshootingipconfig.htm)
says:
>
> Why do I get 169.254.x.x IP?
>
> Symptom: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved
> 169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255 for Automatic Private IP Addressing. If 
> the computer can't get ip from DHCP, APIPA provides an address that is 
> guaranteed not to conflict with routable addresses.
>
> Resolutions: 1) Make sure you have good connection.
> 2) Check the hardware and settings.
> 3) Make sure the DHCP is working.
> 4) For the test, you can assign static ip. If static ip works, it is 
> possible DHCP issue. If static ip doesn't work, check the hardware or 
> connection.
> 5) WinSock2 stack may be corrupted and need to repair.
>
> Hope that's of some use!
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> Sent: 29 December 2009 20:09
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> /Release and /all didn't change anything.  IPv4 address is still 
> 169.254.225.78.  Should be something like 192.168.1.x.
>
> I did ipconfig /renew and got the message "An error occurred while
renewing
> interface Local Area Connection : unable to contact your DHCP server.
> Request has timed out."
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Have a look here
>
> http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/commands/ipconfig.aspx
>
> You could try to do an ipconfig /all
>
> and then an ipconfig /release
>
> followed by another
>
> ipconfig /all
>
> on the workstation connected to the hub.
>
> You have to do Run and then cmd.exe to get a dos box to do ipconfig
>
> GK
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rocky Smolin 
> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
> > Yeah, all the same workgroup.  When I pull the wire from the hub and 
> > plug it into the router it works regardless of machine.  ICS can't 
> > be enabled because I've only one network (so says the help dialog).
> >
> > R
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max 
> > Wanadoo
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:57 AM
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> >
> > Are the  WorkGroups the same, ie WORKGROUP or MSHOME etc?
> >
> > Also the pc with the internet access needs to have ICS enabled 
> > (search help for  ICS Internet Connection Sharing)
> >
> > Max
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> > Smolin
> > Sent: 29 December 2009 16:27
> > To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem 
> > is that I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
> > connected one of the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on 
> > the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
> > another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
> > through two other XE102s.  Everything works a treat.
> >
> > But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
> > cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
> > but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
> > connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
> > that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind 
> > of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router
(?).
> >
> > Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. 
> > And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think 
> > the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) 
> > and the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports 
> > - and it
> worked.
> >
> > Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
> > empty ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?
> >
> >
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> >
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Thu Dec 31 06:38:17 2009
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:38:17 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] SharePoint 2010 Workflows
In-Reply-To: <05A0606BCD5B4713A5CFD3A688D291A4@SusanOne>
References: <05A0606BCD5B4713A5CFD3A688D291A4@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829502B2388208@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>

yip

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
The Library at Queen's
Tel : 02890976174
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
Sharepoint Training Portal
________________________________________
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at gmail.com]
Sent: 30 December 2009 15:35
To: DBA Tech List
Subject: [dba-Tech] SharePoint 2010 Workflows

Anyone with a solid expertise in SharePoint 2010 Workflows -- not a paying
job or anything, but looking for folks with good knowledge to review a work
in progress.

Susan H.

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