From fahooper at trapo.com Sun Mar 1 07:43:17 2009 From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:43:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] External Hard Drive Failing In-Reply-To: <49A9B376.7040402@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <17A3E76FEF174E82ABACE3A44158AE3C@FRED6998B25045> I doubt it -- with the possible exception of Stuart's freezing idea. Steve Gibson has been working for a long time to make the program everything that it should be. In his security podcast (where his "pay" is a reading of a SpinRite success story) he has mentioned many subtleties that indicate just how much thought and effort he has put into it. I've never seen a purely for-profit product with that kind of dedication. Again, good luck, Fred -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:58 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] External Hard Drive Failing Is there anything a little less pricey? Mind you if I have to pay USD89 to rescue my priceless data (that I thought was put safely away), I will. If I don't have to pay that much I 'd rather not. Thanks Tina Fred Hooper wrote: > I've used SpinRite for years both for fixing and preventing drive failure. I > know of no downside to using it. > > Good luck, > Fred > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:09 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] External Hard Drive Failing > > I do not have it (although I keep meaning to get it), I have always heard > good things about SpinRite. > http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm > > > > Thanks, > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:56 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] External Hard Drive Failing > > Hi, > > I've been using a SimpleTech 120Gb USB external hard drive for my backup > storage. It's also the one place I've been putting all my downloaded > files, and all my photos. It started making little sounds reminiscent > of a floppy drive having trouble reading a diskette formatted on another > drive - you know, the bearings are worn just a little differently, so > the tracks don't line up perfectly when the disk is being accessed in > one machine, but there is no problem when it's being accessed in the > other machine. The external drive started making that kind of sound - > having a little trouble reading. I was thinking that I would replace > that hard drive soon, but it stopped reading before I got around to > replacing it. Now any attempt to access it results in the message that > the drive is not formatted and would I like to format it now. No, I > don't want to format it now - I want to copy all the backed up stuff I > have on it and put it all on the nice new 500Gb external hard drive I > have. > > What tools are out there that do what the Norton Utilities used to do > back in DOS days? There used to be a good Norton Utility that let one > have access to a disk that DOS couldn't read - what's out there now that > I might use to recover the good stuff I put away on this drive for > safekeeping? > > I will appreciate any help at all on this. > > Tina > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 08:07:07 2009 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:07:07 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] External Hard Drive Failing In-Reply-To: <17A3E76FEF174E82ABACE3A44158AE3C@FRED6998B25045> References: <49A9B376.7040402@torchlake.com> <17A3E76FEF174E82ABACE3A44158AE3C@FRED6998B25045> Message-ID: I bought Spinrite many years ago, version 1 I think. And I upgraded at least once, Probably in the 1990 time frame. Last year I had some drive issues and I was able to do an Upgrade to the current version even though it had been many years and several versions since my purchase. I didn't have my license number. I had moved to a different address. I had a different e-mail address. Yet I was recognized as a previous customer and they honored me by giving me an upgrade price. Spinrite isn't cheap but it does what it does better than anything else. GK On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Fred Hooper wrote: > I doubt it -- with the possible exception of Stuart's freezing idea. Steve > Gibson has been working for a long time to make the program everything that > it should be. In his security podcast (where his "pay" is a reading of a > SpinRite success story) he has mentioned many subtleties that indicate just > how much thought and effort he has put into it. I've never seen a purely > for-profit product with that kind of dedication. > > Again, good luck, > Fred > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:58 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] External Hard Drive Failing > > Is there anything a little less pricey? ?Mind you if I have to pay USD89 > to rescue my priceless data (that I thought was put safely away), I > will. ?If I don't have to pay that much I 'd rather not. > Thanks > Tina > > Fred Hooper wrote: >> I've used SpinRite for years both for fixing and preventing drive failure. > I >> know of no downside to using it. >> >> Good luck, >> Fred >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid >> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:09 PM >> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] External Hard Drive Failing >> >> I do not have it (although I keep meaning to get it), I have always heard >> good things about SpinRite. >> http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bobby >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris >> Fields >> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:56 PM >> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >> Subject: [dba-Tech] External Hard Drive Failing >> >> Hi, >> >> I've been using a SimpleTech 120Gb USB external hard drive for my backup >> storage. ?It's also the one place I've been putting all my downloaded >> files, and all my photos. ?It started making little sounds reminiscent >> of a floppy drive having trouble reading a diskette formatted on another >> drive - you know, the bearings are worn just a little differently, so >> the tracks don't line up perfectly when the disk is being accessed in >> one machine, but there is no problem when it's being accessed in the >> other machine. ?The external drive started making that kind of sound - >> having a little trouble reading. ?I was thinking that I would replace >> that hard drive soon, but it stopped reading before I got around to >> replacing it. ?Now any attempt to access it results in the message that >> the drive is not formatted and would I like to format it now. ?No, I >> don't want to format it now - I want to copy all the backed up stuff I >> have on it and put it all on the nice new 500Gb external hard drive I >> have. >> >> What tools are out there that do what the Norton Utilities used to do >> back in DOS days? ?There used to be a good Norton Utility that let one >> have access to a disk that DOS couldn't read - what's out there now that >> I might use to recover the good stuff I put away on this drive for >> safekeeping? >> >> I will appreciate any help at all on this. >> >> Tina >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 08:07:16 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:07:16 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] HEY Martin -- are you on this list? Re: External Hard Drive Failing References: <17A3E76FEF174E82ABACE3A44158AE3C@FRED6998B25045> Message-ID: <50B7CCAE37EB4ADDBB70557D4F9CC042@SusanOne> Tina, I know that Martin Reid might have a trick up his sleeve -- if he's on this list! If not, you might post this to the OT list with a subject aimed at him. Susan H. >I doubt it -- with the possible exception of Stuart's freezing idea. Steve > Gibson has been working for a long time to make the program everything > that > it should be. In his security podcast (where his "pay" is a reading of a > SpinRite success story) he has mentioned many subtleties that indicate > just > how much thought and effort he has put into it. I've never seen a purely > for-profit product with that kind of dedication. From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 18:51:04 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:51:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls Message-ID: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to worry about a local firewall on that system, right? Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 19:11:17 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:11:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: firewalls Message-ID: Well first... I don't know why, but now this system is asking for a password. As far as I know, it is not password protected. I never used one and Lexie said she doesn't use one. Why would it suddenly start asking for a password? Susan H. >I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a >wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to >worry about a local firewall on that system, right? > > Susan H. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Mar 1 19:11:34 2009 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:11:34 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> Message-ID: <49ABBEE6.6013.132EAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Maybe. You don't need to use Windows Firewall. Using a router/firewall removes the majority of threats from direct outside attack. It doesn't stop you from getting caught through other vectors such as malicious websites, emails etc. Third party software firewalls such as Comodo , Sunbelt, ZoneAlarm etc give the added protection of checking//filtering outgoing traffic. They will block and let you know if you have been compromised by malware which is trying to send out your personal info or use you as a spambot. On 1 Mar 2009 at 19:51, Susan Harkins wrote: > I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a > wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to worry > about a local firewall on that system, right? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 19:42:44 2009 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:42:44 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> Message-ID: Yes. Pretty much anyway. Does it have file shares to any other system on your network? The router will protect you pretty well from outsiders trying to get at your systems. GK On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a > wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to worry > about a local firewall on that system, right? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Sun Mar 1 19:58:22 2009 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:58:22 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> Message-ID: Susan, I do have a DSL Modem which incorporates a hardware firewall, but BitDefender on my PC still blocks a Trojan or Virus every few weeks. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:43 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] firewalls Yes. Pretty much anyway. Does it have file shares to any other system on your network? The router will protect you pretty well from outsiders trying to get at your systems. GK On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a > wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to worry > about a local firewall on that system, right? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Mar 1 20:19:56 2009 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:19:56 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne>, , Message-ID: <49ABCEEC.9952.51C84F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> It appears that either you're not very careful about what you download or what sites you visit or you use MS Outlook :-) On 1 Mar 2009 at 19:58, Dan Waters wrote: > Susan, > > I do have a DSL Modem which incorporates a hardware firewall, but > BitDefender on my PC still blocks a Trojan or Virus every few weeks. > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:43 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] firewalls > > Yes. Pretty much anyway. Does it have file shares to any other system > on your network? The router will protect you pretty well from > outsiders trying to get at your systems. > > GK > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > > I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a > > wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to > worry > > about a local firewall on that system, right? > > > > Susan H. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Mar 2 01:28:58 2009 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:28:58 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Price and quality of OneCare In-Reply-To: <49AA4D47.24163.907F008@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <49A9A4C2.1060403@torchlake.com> <49AA4D47.24163.907F008@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <8891961E49174017B3D5946DF67598D5@creativesystemdesigns.com> Has anyone else had experience with OneCare? It is about $30.00 US for 3 computers, for a year. Is this a good, bad or indifferent product? Jim From jon.tydda at lonza.com Mon Mar 2 04:54:19 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:54:19 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trend Micro Office Scan Message-ID: Hi all Does anyone know anything about Trend Micro OfficeScan? I've got a bunch of clients that haven't updated for "a while", and I can't figure out why. Trend's online support is somewhat less than helpful, and if I see one more page with Google written on it today I'll go blind. As far as I can tell, they're not updating because Tmlisten.exe is either not starting, or starting and then stopping. Also helpfully, these events aren't captured in the event log, and while they are logged in various other log files, it just tells me that it's not working, but not why. Jon Jon Tydda MCP IT Support Analyst Lonza Biologics PLC 228 Bath Road Slough Berkshire SL1 4DX UK Registered Number: 2742471 Tel: +44 (0) 1753 777077 Fax: +44 (0) 1753 777001 mailto:jon.tydda at lonza.com http://www.lonza.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Mar 2 08:25:13 2009 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:25:13 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: <49ABCEEC.9952.51C84F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne>, , <49ABCEEC.9952.51C84F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: It appears that you believe that only going to certain sites and not using Outlook will keep Trojans and Virus' off your PC. :-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:20 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] firewalls It appears that either you're not very careful about what you download or what sites you visit or you use MS Outlook :-) On 1 Mar 2009 at 19:58, Dan Waters wrote: > Susan, > > I do have a DSL Modem which incorporates a hardware firewall, but > BitDefender on my PC still blocks a Trojan or Virus every few weeks. > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:43 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] firewalls > > Yes. Pretty much anyway. Does it have file shares to any other system > on your network? The router will protect you pretty well from > outsiders trying to get at your systems. > > GK > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > > I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a > > wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to > worry > > about a local firewall on that system, right? > > > > Susan H. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Mar 2 09:22:30 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:22:30 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trend Micro Office Scan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <023301c99b4a$b422bb30$1c683190$@net> Hi Jon, Its , of course, just a guess but I'm thinking something extraordinary has happened to cause a bunch of PCs to not update. One here and there is par for the course with any product but a whole slew of them would indicate to me that if the problem is found on one that would probably be the resolution for all of them. I'd check in there have been changes in the routing configurations on the network, the firewall settings, windows security updates that correlate with the time this began. I'm sure you've done all that already so the other issue I'd check first is to see if those particular machine's firewalls are blocking the agent update ports (whatever that may be for Trend). Also - a couple of questions: Have you tried to force a push from the server or from the PC tried to pull in the update? Are all the machines on the network the same (imaged)? Did this just start happening recently or have they not checked in for "quite a while"? Are they all on the same subnet? Do they have a "machine name" of 15 characters or less? Is Trend's support so bad that it can't help you through this? I've had problems with Symantec and McAfee support but have only had one fairly lame problem with Trend in the past (they did eventually come through with a solution - just took longer than expected.) Normally, when it is just one PC's agent acting this way the quick fix is to remove the agent and reinstall so I'd suggest starting with one of your problem machines to see if that helps. Once you have the agent removed completely then the server should detect this and distribute a new agent to it (if the server is set to automatically distribute agents to new machines) otherwise you could try to push it out manually or go to the PC and pull it in. HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:54 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Trend Micro Office Scan Hi all Does anyone know anything about Trend Micro OfficeScan? I've got a bunch of clients that haven't updated for "a while", and I can't figure out why. Trend's online support is somewhat less than helpful, and if I see one more page with Google written on it today I'll go blind. As far as I can tell, they're not updating because Tmlisten.exe is either not starting, or starting and then stopping. Also helpfully, these events aren't captured in the event log, and while they are logged in various other log files, it just tells me that it's not working, but not why. From eptept at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 10:24:47 2009 From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:24:47 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> Message-ID: <4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com> Susan, You have secured the router, correct? On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a > wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to > worry > about a local firewall on that system, right? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 10:48:26 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:48:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> <4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> Oh, the dh did it, and I seriously doubt it he did anything other than run the wizard. It was connected and running fine, but after rebooting, I can't get in -- wants a password, which totally busts me at this point. I can't log on at all, so it's not like I can get in and hack another account -- I can't log in at all. Once I can log on again, I'll secure the router. Lexie uses that computer and my best guess is she did and just doesn't remember. I called her, but she said she didn't. I've no clue who, when, how... I'm in the process of downloading ophcrack -- man is that thing huge! ;( Interesting, the wireless won't work on the laptop. :( It keeps looking for a file -- I'll deal with that some other time. Susan H. > Susan, > You have secured the router, correct? > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a >> wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to >> worry >> about a local firewall on that system, right? >> >> Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Mar 2 10:57:43 2009 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:57:43 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: <3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne><4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com> <3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> Message-ID: <75CF68DA7CAA491D8B40A5380FD3DC93@HAL9005> I had that problem once and found the password on a web site by googling the manufacturer and model and password. IIRC, I also once hit the reset button on the router which set it back to its factory settings and then the password was either blank or admin. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:48 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] firewalls Oh, the dh did it, and I seriously doubt it he did anything other than run the wizard. It was connected and running fine, but after rebooting, I can't get in -- wants a password, which totally busts me at this point. I can't log on at all, so it's not like I can get in and hack another account -- I can't log in at all. Once I can log on again, I'll secure the router. Lexie uses that computer and my best guess is she did and just doesn't remember. I called her, but she said she didn't. I've no clue who, when, how... I'm in the process of downloading ophcrack -- man is that thing huge! ;( Interesting, the wireless won't work on the laptop. :( It keeps looking for a file -- I'll deal with that some other time. Susan H. > Susan, > You have secured the router, correct? > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using >> a wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need >> to worry about a local firewall on that system, right? >> >> Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Mar 2 11:00:34 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:00:34 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: <3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> <4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com> <3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> Message-ID: <02d501c99b58$6758ccf0$360a66d0$@net> Susan, All routers have a default lgin & password. What brand is it? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:48 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] firewalls Oh, the dh did it, and I seriously doubt it he did anything other than run the wizard. It was connected and running fine, but after rebooting, I can't get in -- wants a password, which totally busts me at this point. I can't log on at all, so it's not like I can get in and hack another account -- I can't log in at all. Once I can log on again, I'll secure the router. Lexie uses that computer and my best guess is she did and just doesn't remember. I called her, but she said she didn't. I've no clue who, when, how... I'm in the process of downloading ophcrack -- man is that thing huge! ;( Interesting, the wireless won't work on the laptop. :( It keeps looking for a file -- I'll deal with that some other time. Susan H. > Susan, > You have secured the router, correct? > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a >> wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to >> worry >> about a local firewall on that system, right? >> >> Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 11:14:46 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:14:46 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne><4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com><3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> <75CF68DA7CAA491D8B40A5380FD3DC93@HAL9005> Message-ID: <8F17462ADBDB4F1CB78C442D97A45A5E@SusanOne> >I had that problem once and found the password on a web site by googling >the > manufacturer and model and password. =====How curious! I'll give that a try. > > IIRC, I also once hit the reset button on the router which set it back to > its factory settings and then the password was either blank or admin. =====No luck for the wicked today! ;) Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 11:15:43 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:15:43 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> <4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com><3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> <02d501c99b58$6758ccf0$360a66d0$@net> Message-ID: <29F4573D3DE64B25BB177862CA559206@SusanOne> Does it kick in even the adapter's not plugged in? I asked Bill last night if the wizard had prompted for a password and he said no. It's a Belkin Wireless G Router. Susan H. > Susan, > All routers have a default lgin & password. What brand is it? From jon.tydda at lonza.com Mon Mar 2 11:21:47 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:21:47 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trend Micro Office Scan In-Reply-To: <023301c99b4a$b422bb30$1c683190$@net> References: <023301c99b4a$b422bb30$1c683190$@net> Message-ID: Thanks for these suggestions John. The PCs are from all over the network, different subnets, different IP ranges. Other PCs on those ranges and subnets work fine. Windows firewall is disabled by Group Policy. The server thinks that the PCs are offline, because the Tmlisten service is not running, so we can't push updates to them. The PCs see that the Tmlisten service is offline, and can't do a pull update. The machine names are all less than 15 characters. When I say "Trend Support", I meant their website, which has been having database issues all day. I haven't contacted them directly, as I don't know what level of support we have with them. I've managed to get onto their website now and found some things to try, so I'm giving them a go. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:23 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trend Micro Office Scan Hi Jon, Its , of course, just a guess but I'm thinking something extraordinary has happened to cause a bunch of PCs to not update. One here and there is par for the course with any product but a whole slew of them would indicate to me that if the problem is found on one that would probably be the resolution for all of them. I'd check in there have been changes in the routing configurations on the network, the firewall settings, windows security updates that correlate with the time this began. I'm sure you've done all that already so the other issue I'd check first is to see if those particular machine's firewalls are blocking the agent update ports (whatever that may be for Trend). Also - a couple of questions: Have you tried to force a push from the server or from the PC tried to pull in the update? Are all the machines on the network the same (imaged)? Did this just start happening recently or have they not checked in for "quite a while"? Are they all on the same subnet? Do they have a "machine name" of 15 characters or less? Is Trend's support so bad that it can't help you through this? I've had problems with Symantec and McAfee support but have only had one fairly lame problem with Trend in the past (they did eventually come through with a solution - just took longer than expected.) Normally, when it is just one PC's agent acting this way the quick fix is to remove the agent and reinstall so I'd suggest starting with one of your problem machines to see if that helps. Once you have the agent removed completely then the server should detect this and distribute a new agent to it (if the server is set to automatically distribute agents to new machines) otherwise you could try to push it out manually or go to the PC and pull it in. HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:54 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Trend Micro Office Scan Hi all Does anyone know anything about Trend Micro OfficeScan? I've got a bunch of clients that haven't updated for "a while", and I can't figure out why. Trend's online support is somewhat less than helpful, and if I see one more page with Google written on it today I'll go blind. As far as I can tell, they're not updating because Tmlisten.exe is either not starting, or starting and then stopping. Also helpfully, these events aren't captured in the event log, and while they are logged in various other log files, it just tells me that it's not working, but not why. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 14:16:51 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:16:51 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> <4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com><3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> <02d501c99b58$6758ccf0$360a66d0$@net> Message-ID: <6D5E47AB1552403EBE60658F45B9D52B@SusanOne> I'm in... thanks everyone. Now, how do I secure the wireless router? I remember running one before and securing it, but I don't remember what I did -- I'll look around for a good link, but if someone already has one, let me know. Susan H. > Susan, > All routers have a default lgin & password. What brand is it? From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 15:04:11 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:04:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> <4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com><3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> <02d501c99b58$6758ccf0$360a66d0$@net> Message-ID: <81D7700F71FE454BBCF21053C330DE13@SusanOne> Well, I changed the default password and SSID. Susan H. > Susan, > All routers have a default lgin & password. What brand is it? From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 15:38:34 2009 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:38:34 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: <81D7700F71FE454BBCF21053C330DE13@SusanOne> References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne> <4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com> <3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne> <02d501c99b58$6758ccf0$360a66d0$@net> <81D7700F71FE454BBCF21053C330DE13@SusanOne> Message-ID: Always good to put in some kind of encryption with a key you enter on both the router and the wireless PC. Also something called MAC ADDRESS FILTERING is a good thing. You tell the router that he can only talk to certain devices. You get the PC's MAC address by using the ipconfig command in a DOS window. GK. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Well, I changed the default password and SSID. > > Susan H. >> Susan, >> All routers have a default lgin & password. What brand is it? > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 17:25:29 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:25:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne><4f4bf9510903020824j5d34edectd525fccb5351d42b@mail.gmail.com><3F06378900D64E6B9EFB6A39900E3AF0@SusanOne><02d501c99b58$6758ccf0$360a66d0$@net><81D7700F71FE454BBCF21053C330DE13@SusanOne> Message-ID: <7B1118D860E24FEB9D7CFEFBCC94C90A@SusanOne> I'm unsure enough about that, that I didn't do it. The router's secured, and the wireless is connecting -- link is very slow though. :( Any way to improve that? Susan H. > Always good to put in some kind of encryption with a key you enter on > both the router and the wireless PC. Also something called MAC ADDRESS > FILTERING is a good thing. You tell the router that he can only talk > to certain devices. You get the PC's MAC address by using the ipconfig > command in a DOS window. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Mar 2 17:59:05 2009 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:59:05 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] firewalls In-Reply-To: References: <7222E15C3DB646A8978C4B51396CFAC8@SusanOne>, <49ABCEEC.9952.51C84F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, Message-ID: <49ACFF69.15107.3FC4CEC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Of course I should have mention Interent Explorer too :-) -- Stuart On 2 Mar 2009 at 8:25, Dan Waters wrote: > It appears that you believe that only going to certain sites and not using > Outlook will keep Trojans and Virus' off your PC. :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:20 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] firewalls > > It appears that either you're not very careful about what you download or > what sites you visit > or you use MS Outlook :-) > > On 1 Mar 2009 at 19:58, Dan Waters wrote: > > > Susan, > > > > I do have a DSL Modem which incorporates a hardware firewall, but > > BitDefender on my PC still blocks a Trojan or Virus every few weeks. > > > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:43 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and > > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] firewalls > > > > Yes. Pretty much anyway. Does it have file shares to any other system > > on your network? The router will protect you pretty well from > > outsiders trying to get at your systems. > > > > GK > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > > > I just hooked up an older computer using Windows 2000 for Lexie using a > > > wireless router. The router has a firewall. That means I don't need to > > worry > > > about a local firewall on that system, right? > > > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kjos > > garykjos at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 11:47:17 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:47:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload Message-ID: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system is slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, performance might not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown came about the same time. I'm rebooting several times a day right now. My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a resume and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the other system -- get a page error and can't even attempt. Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my Windows firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on IE, but that doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess I'll spend the day running scans for that... I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, everything goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. Susan H. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Mar 4 11:50:05 2009 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:50:05 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> Message-ID: I would try unplugging your machine from the router and go direct to the cable - cut the router out of the loop. If it goes fast then it's probably a router problem. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:47 AM To: DBA Tech List Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system is slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, performance might not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown came about the same time. I'm rebooting several times a day right now. My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a resume and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the other system -- get a page error and can't even attempt. Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my Windows firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on IE, but that doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess I'll spend the day running scans for that... I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, everything goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 11:56:30 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:56:30 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Can't get IE to upload Message-ID: Well... the resume went through this time -- been trying since early this morning -- guess it was just a busy server. Both systems are still slow as molasses though. Any help there would be appreciated. Susan H. >I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system is >slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, performance >might not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown came about the >same time. > > I'm rebooting several times a day right now. > > My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a > resume and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the other > system -- get a page error and can't even attempt. > > Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... > could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my Windows > firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on IE, but > that doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess I'll spend the > day running scans for that... > > I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, everything > goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. > > Susan H. From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Wed Mar 4 12:05:13 2009 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:05:13 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> Message-ID: <8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS> Susan, Like Rocky, suggested, try going directly to the Broadband connection, then run some timing tests with DSL Reports or speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and make sure that your broadband connection is working up to speed. Then plug in the router, and use a direct connection and test again. Then go wireless and test again, this should give you real numbers instead of slow or fast, making troubleshooting much easier. The other day I was having similar problems and with out boring you with the details it turned out to be a broken wire to the DSL Modem. Who would have thought that DSL would work at all with only one wire connected? It did at times but never over about 1/3 normal speed. HTH Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "DBA Tech List" Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system is slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, performance might not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown came about the same time. I'm rebooting several times a day right now. My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a resume and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the other system -- get a page error and can't even attempt. Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my Windows firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on IE, but that doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess I'll spend the day running scans for that... I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, everything goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Mar 4 12:11:06 2009 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:11:06 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: <8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS> References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> <8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS> Message-ID: <3FC5B7792F724B3B9CDDFF4A8BD3E654@danwaters> I had the Line/Phone connections switched once - DSL worked, but only at 1/4 speed. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:05 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload Susan, Like Rocky, suggested, try going directly to the Broadband connection, then run some timing tests with DSL Reports or speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and make sure that your broadband connection is working up to speed. Then plug in the router, and use a direct connection and test again. Then go wireless and test again, this should give you real numbers instead of slow or fast, making troubleshooting much easier. The other day I was having similar problems and with out boring you with the details it turned out to be a broken wire to the DSL Modem. Who would have thought that DSL would work at all with only one wire connected? It did at times but never over about 1/3 normal speed. HTH Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "DBA Tech List" Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system is slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, performance might not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown came about the same time. I'm rebooting several times a day right now. My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a resume and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the other system -- get a page error and can't even attempt. Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my Windows firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on IE, but that doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess I'll spend the day running scans for that... I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, everything goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 12:37:49 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:37:49 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> <8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS> Message-ID: <5BA9B68893654C5E83804141C515AB5F@SusanOne> Last Result: Download Speed: 1025 kbps (128.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 128 kbps (16 KB/sec transfer rate) ======For my purposes, that's adequate. Wireless system is similar -- #'s are just a hair different. This must just be my local systems -- memory, malware, something like that. Susan H. > Susan, > > Like Rocky, suggested, try going directly to the Broadband connection, > then > run some timing tests with DSL Reports or speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and > make > sure that your broadband connection is working up to speed. Then plug in > the > router, and use a direct connection and test again. Then go wireless and > test again, this should give you real numbers instead of slow or fast, > making troubleshooting much easier. > > The other day I was having similar problems and with out boring you with > the > details it turned out to be a broken wire to the DSL Modem. Who would > have > thought that DSL would work at all with only one wire connected? It did > at > times but never over about 1/3 normal speed. > > > HTH > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harkins" > To: "DBA Tech List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:47 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload > > > I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system is > slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, performance > might > not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown came about the same > time. > > I'm rebooting several times a day right now. > > My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a > resume > and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the other system -- > get a page error and can't even attempt. > > Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... > could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my Windows > firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on IE, but > that > doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess I'll spend the day > running scans for that... > > I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, everything > goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Wed Mar 4 13:11:51 2009 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:11:51 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: <5BA9B68893654C5E83804141C515AB5F@SusanOne> References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne><8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS> <5BA9B68893654C5E83804141C515AB5F@SusanOne> Message-ID: <8D2FA0B7D80B44CFA6BF191224C6135C@BPCS> If your getting that through your wireless and router then it would appear that your problem this time was the web site. You might put a shortcut to the speed test site on your desktop and check it when ever it seems slow. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload Last Result: Download Speed: 1025 kbps (128.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 128 kbps (16 KB/sec transfer rate) ======For my purposes, that's adequate. Wireless system is similar -- #'s are just a hair different. This must just be my local systems -- memory, malware, something like that. Susan H. > Susan, > > Like Rocky, suggested, try going directly to the Broadband connection, > then > run some timing tests with DSL Reports or speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and > make > sure that your broadband connection is working up to speed. Then plug in > the > router, and use a direct connection and test again. Then go wireless and > test again, this should give you real numbers instead of slow or fast, > making troubleshooting much easier. > > The other day I was having similar problems and with out boring you with > the > details it turned out to be a broken wire to the DSL Modem. Who would > have > thought that DSL would work at all with only one wire connected? It did > at > times but never over about 1/3 normal speed. > > > HTH > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harkins" > To: "DBA Tech List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:47 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload > > > I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system is > slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, performance > might > not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown came about the same > time. > > I'm rebooting several times a day right now. > > My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a > resume > and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the other system -- > get a page error and can't even attempt. > > Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... > could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my Windows > firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on IE, but > that > doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess I'll spend the day > running scans for that... > > I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, everything > goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 13:15:39 2009 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:15:39 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> Message-ID: We had very slow internet response here at work this morning. To the point of my abaondoning it and actually doing work. ;-) Perhaps it was related to your issues. GK On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system is > slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, performance might > not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown came about the same > time. > > I'm rebooting several times a day right now. > > My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a resume > and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the other system -- > get a page error and can't even attempt. > > Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... > could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my Windows > firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on IE, but that > doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess I'll spend the day > running scans for that... > > I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, everything > goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 13:18:40 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:18:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> Message-ID: <781C6B8637EB4C17881BD267FC15F133@SusanOne> Anything's possible, just suddenly disappeared. Susan H. > We had very slow internet response here at work this morning. To the > point of my abaondoning it and actually doing work. ;-) Perhaps it was > related to your issues. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Mar 4 13:18:23 2009 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:18:23 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> Message-ID: You think she caused it? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:16 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload We had very slow internet response here at work this morning. To the point of my abaondoning it and actually doing work. ;-) Perhaps it was related to your issues. GK On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless > system is slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, > performance might not be related to the router at all, but the > slowdown came about the same time. > > I'm rebooting several times a day right now. > > My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a > resume and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the > other system -- get a page error and can't even attempt. > > Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... > could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my > Windows firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on > IE, but that doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess > I'll spend the day running scans for that... > > I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, > everything goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Mar 4 13:29:50 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:29:50 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: <5BA9B68893654C5E83804141C515AB5F@SusanOne> References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> <8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS> <5BA9B68893654C5E83804141C515AB5F@SusanOne> Message-ID: <033601c99cff$963885d0$c2a99170$@net> Susan, Unless you've upgraded, your pc doesn't have enough RAM. That is the main reason it is slow. 512MB ram is bare minimum for XP anymore. 1GB is typical now. I've seen you mention that you've added programs recently so that will make it slower yet, because many applications install background processes that run all the time. I (we) can help you install more RAM if you purchase it or, as I mentioned before, I can send some used modules down. I would just to need you to remind me which type you need. Go to crucial.com and run their scanner. It will provide this info. HTH John B PS: Also make sure you update Vipre - you should be on def ver 5020. 5019 was a bit of a pig. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:38 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload Last Result: Download Speed: 1025 kbps (128.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 128 kbps (16 KB/sec transfer rate) ======For my purposes, that's adequate. Wireless system is similar -- #'s are just a hair different. This must just be my local systems -- memory, malware, something like that. Susan H. > Susan, > > Like Rocky, suggested, try going directly to the Broadband connection, > then > run some timing tests with DSL Reports or speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and > make > sure that your broadband connection is working up to speed. Then plug in > the > router, and use a direct connection and test again. Then go wireless and > test again, this should give you real numbers instead of slow or fast, > making troubleshooting much easier. > > The other day I was having similar problems and with out boring you with > the > details it turned out to be a broken wire to the DSL Modem. Who would > have > thought that DSL would work at all with only one wire connected? It did > at > times but never over about 1/3 normal speed. > > > HTH > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harkins" > To: "DBA Tech List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:47 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload > > > I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system is > slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, performance > might > not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown came about the same > time. > > I'm rebooting several times a day right now. > > My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a > resume > and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the other system -- > get a page error and can't even attempt. > > Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... > could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my Windows > firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on IE, but > that > doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess I'll spend the day > running scans for that... > > I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, everything > goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 13:45:26 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:45:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> <8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS><5BA9B68893654C5E83804141C515AB5F@SusanOne> <033601c99cff$963885d0$c2a99170$@net> Message-ID: <0C2B1F7EA3FF47FA8A9282495E0EEE41@SusanOne> I know -- I meant to do this and didn't -- just talked to Bill about it a few days ago. I'm sure I could install it myself. a.. Maximum Memory Capacity: 2048MB b.. Currently Installed Memory: 256MB c.. Available Memory Slots: 1 d.. Number of Banks: 2 e.. Dual Channel Support: No f.. CPU Manufacturer: GenuineIntel g.. CPU Family: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz Model 2, Stepping 4 h.. CPU Speed: 1999 MHz i.. If you've got something, I'd just as soon work with you -- what'd ya got? :) Susan H. > Susan, > Unless you've upgraded, your pc doesn't have enough RAM. That is the main > reason it is slow. 512MB ram is bare minimum for XP anymore. 1GB is > typical > now. I've seen you mention that you've added programs recently so that > will > make it slower yet, because many applications install background processes > that run all the time. I (we) can help you install more RAM if you > purchase > it or, as I mentioned before, I can send some used modules down. I would > just to need you to remind me which type you need. Go to crucial.com and > run > their scanner. It will provide this info. From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Wed Mar 4 13:58:18 2009 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:58:18 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Susan, if the router isn't relatively new you might want to check if there is a Firmware update for it. Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:57 PM To: DBA Tech List Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Can't get IE to upload Well... the resume went through this time -- been trying since early this morning -- guess it was just a busy server. Both systems are still slow as molasses though. Any help there would be appreciated. Susan H. >I installed a Belkin Wireless G router the other day -- wireless system >is slow as molasses and mine is almost as bad now. Of course, >performance might not be related to the router at all, but the slowdown >came about the same time. > > I'm rebooting several times a day right now. > > My main problem right this minute is I'm trying to use IE to upload a > resume and it just will not go -- churns and churns... forget the > other system -- get a page error and can't even attempt. > > Could be many things -- the server I'm trying to upload is busy, down... > could be IE on my end. Even though the router has a firewall, my > Windows firewalls are still enabled. I haven't changed any settings on > IE, but that doesn't mean anything... could be malware, so I guess > I'll spend the day running scans for that... > > I truly am really tired of this -- about 3 or 4 times a year, > everything goes nuts... I'm ready to buy a Mac. > > Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 14:02:04 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:02:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Can't get IE to upload References: Message-ID: <936F47F9C2A44E569D55036E37BFB830@SusanOne> Brand new, but probably worth a check, just the same. Susan H. > Susan, if the router isn't relatively new you might want to check if > there is a Firmware update for it. From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Mar 4 15:19:50 2009 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:19:50 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Vipre (was: Can't get IE to upload) Message-ID: Hi John Thanks! That explained why my trusted IntelliStation went nuts the other day. A thread exists on this: http://getsatisfaction.com/sunbeltsoftware/topics/vipre_enterprised_hosed_as_of_4pm_03_02_2009 /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 04-03-2009 20:29 >>> PS: Also make sure you update Vipre - you should be on def ver 5020. 5019 was a bit of a pig. From john at winhaven.net Wed Mar 4 19:07:46 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:07:46 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Vipre (was: Can't get IE to upload) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <044601c99d2e$cb768b50$6263a1f0$@net> Hi Gustav, It was an update that did what many had requested but it took about 15 minutes to apply and on older machines or machines that were in use it caused a problem due to the high CPU usage. If you walked away and left it alone it probably worked fine but if you tried to troubleshoot why it appeared locked up then the update probably got corrupted and it became an endless loop. I just returned from one of my client's with Vipre Enterprise and they nor any of my other client's experiences an issues with it. I can say that the update - once in place - made for a nice improvement in speed on the Enterprise console end. BTW the console in .Net based if that explains anything ;o) John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 3:20 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Vipre (was: Can't get IE to upload) Hi John Thanks! That explained why my trusted IntelliStation went nuts the other day. A thread exists on this: http://getsatisfaction.com/sunbeltsoftware/topics/vipre_enterprised_hosed_as _of_4pm_03_02_2009 /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 04-03-2009 20:29 >>> PS: Also make sure you update Vipre - you should be on def ver 5020. 5019 was a bit of a pig. From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 19:19:37 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:19:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Vipre (was: Can't get IE to upload) References: <044601c99d2e$cb768b50$6263a1f0$@net> Message-ID: <05B0CF5ED9C0420AB3B5846065253149@SusanOne> > It was an update that did what many had requested but it took about 15 > minutes to apply and on older machines or machines that were in use it > caused a problem due to the high CPU usage. If you walked away and left it > alone it probably worked fine but if you tried to troubleshoot why it > appeared locked up then the update probably got corrupted and it became an > endless loop. I just returned from one of my client's with Vipre > Enterprise > and they nor any of my other client's experiences an issues with it. I can > say that the update - once in place - made for a nice improvement in speed > on the Enterprise console end. ======Sounds like what's been going on with me -- but I'm fine now -- I don't know if that was the problem or not -- I did update manually earlier when you told me to. Things are much better. Susan H. From john at winhaven.net Wed Mar 4 23:42:47 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:42:47 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: <0C2B1F7EA3FF47FA8A9282495E0EEE41@SusanOne> References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> <8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS><5BA9B68893654C5E83804141C515AB5F@SusanOne> <033601c99cff$963885d0$c2a99170$@net> <0C2B1F7EA3FF47FA8A9282495E0EEE41@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005001c99d55$37162930$a5427b90$@net> I have to track down my box of used RAM and I'll let you know if I have any that meets these specs. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:45 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload I know -- I meant to do this and didn't -- just talked to Bill about it a few days ago. I'm sure I could install it myself. a.. Maximum Memory Capacity: 2048MB b.. Currently Installed Memory: 256MB c.. Available Memory Slots: 1 d.. Number of Banks: 2 e.. Dual Channel Support: No f.. CPU Manufacturer: GenuineIntel g.. CPU Family: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz Model 2, Stepping 4 h.. CPU Speed: 1999 MHz i.. If you've got something, I'd just as soon work with you -- what'd ya got? :) Susan H. > Susan, > Unless you've upgraded, your pc doesn't have enough RAM. That is the main > reason it is slow. 512MB ram is bare minimum for XP anymore. 1GB is > typical > now. I've seen you mention that you've added programs recently so that > will > make it slower yet, because many applications install background processes > that run all the time. I (we) can help you install more RAM if you > purchase > it or, as I mentioned before, I can send some used modules down. I would > just to need you to remind me which type you need. Go to crucial.com and > run > their scanner. It will provide this info. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Mar 5 01:12:54 2009 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:12:54 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Vipre (was: Can't get IE to upload) Message-ID: Hi John I left the machine for the night updating and it has finished in the morning. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 05-03-2009 02:07 >>> Hi Gustav, It was an update that did what many had requested but it took about 15 minutes to apply and on older machines or machines that were in use it caused a problem due to the high CPU usage. If you walked away and left it alone it probably worked fine but if you tried to troubleshoot why it appeared locked up then the update probably got corrupted and it became an endless loop. I just returned from one of my client's with Vipre Enterprise and they nor any of my other client's experiences an issues with it. I can say that the update - once in place - made for a nice improvement in speed on the Enterprise console end. BTW the console in .Net based if that explains anything ;o) John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 3:20 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Vipre (was: Can't get IE to upload) Hi John Thanks! That explained why my trusted IntelliStation went nuts the other day. A thread exists on this: http://getsatisfaction.com/sunbeltsoftware/topics/vipre_enterprised_hosed_as_of_4pm_03_02_2009 /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 04-03-2009 20:29 >>> PS: Also make sure you update Vipre - you should be on def ver 5020. 5019 was a bit of a pig. From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 09:04:42 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:04:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> <8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS><5BA9B68893654C5E83804141C515AB5F@SusanOne> <033601c99cff$963885d0$c2a99170$@net><0C2B1F7EA3FF47FA8A9282495E0EEE41@SusanOne> <005001c99d55$37162930$a5427b90$@net> Message-ID: <5C525DBD1D404CD3A93EBFD68353E296@SusanOne> My box of used RAM... :) That makes me giggle. Susan H. >I have to track down my box of used RAM and I'll let you know if I have any > that meets these specs. From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Mar 5 09:38:03 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:38:03 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload In-Reply-To: <5C525DBD1D404CD3A93EBFD68353E296@SusanOne> References: <1E339CFF4E9247E0A777CDCA9736CA7B@SusanOne> <8602F237471445F3A1950352145852F7@BPCS><5BA9B68893654C5E83804141C515AB5F@SusanOne> <033601c99cff$963885d0$c2a99170$@net><0C2B1F7EA3FF47FA8A9282495E0EEE41@SusanOne> <005001c99d55$37162930$a5427b90$@net> <5C525DBD1D404CD3A93EBFD68353E296@SusanOne> Message-ID: Why? Doesn't everyone have a box like that? I know I have :-) Most of it I'll never find a use for, such as the old 8/16mb simms and dimms, but there's still some useful stuff in there that I've scavenged from old systems. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:05 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Can't get IE to upload My box of used RAM... :) That makes me giggle. Susan H. >I have to track down my box of used RAM and I'll let you know if I have >any that meets these specs. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 09:02:27 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:02:27 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel List feature Message-ID: Excel 2003 and 2007 offer the List feature on the Data menu. I don't have 2002 installed -- can someone check and see if 2002 has it -- I don't think it does. Susan H. From garykjos at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 13:40:41 2009 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:40:41 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel List feature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I does not. The Data menu on my copy has Sort Filter Form Subtotals Validation ----------------- Table Test to Columns Consolidate Group and Outline -------------------------- PivotTableandPivotChart Report -------------------------- Import External Data Refresh Data (greyed out on mine) I forgot I had Office 2002 on my secondary system here at work. I have 2003 on primary system. GK On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Excel 2003 and 2007 offer the List feature on the Data menu. I don't have > 2002 installed -- can someone check and see if 2002 has it -- I don't think > it does. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 13:42:34 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:42:34 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel List feature References: Message-ID: <7A81F71BB7DB4F37B54084D37F2A4AC9@SusanOne> Thanks! Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Kjos" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel List feature >I does not. > > The Data menu on my copy has > > Sort > Filter > Form > Subtotals > Validation > ----------------- > Table > Test to Columns > Consolidate > Group and Outline > -------------------------- > PivotTableandPivotChart Report > -------------------------- > Import External Data > Refresh Data (greyed out on mine) > > > I forgot I had Office 2002 on my secondary system here at work. I have > 2003 on primary system. > > GK > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: >> Excel 2003 and 2007 offer the List feature on the Data menu. I don't have >> 2002 installed -- can someone check and see if 2002 has it -- I don't >> think >> it does. >> >> Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 13:42:23 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:42:23 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] JavaFx Message-ID: <6E374AC8F82E427A966055D4885401A3@SusanOne> Has anyone played around with JavaFX? I'm writing about RIA's this afternoon and the pr is that JavaFX is more approachable that traditional RIA software -- soemthing I might be interested in looking at myself at some point, if that's true. Susan H. From erbachs at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 08:28:56 2009 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:28:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior Message-ID: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> Dear Group, I've used Vipre for a few months on my system (Windows XP x64) and on my wife's XP system. Didn't have any problems ... until a couple of days at the end of last week. After what I'm about to describe happened a couple of times, I started out after a fresh reboot by running SysInternals' Process Explorer showing the Performance Graph for the SBAMSvc.exe service. Then I'd start Thunderbird. The performance graph for the Vipre service would jump up to 50% CPU utilization (most of that was core CPU). Then, after email was downloaded, I'd click on any message to read it and the CPU utilization would jump to 100%. Most of that CPU utilization (about 70%) was core CPU. The CPU utilization stayed at 100% so I thought I'd shut down the service using Process Explorer. After having accomplished that and seeing the CPU utilization plunge back to 0, I tried re-starting Vipre; that is, I ran it from the Start menu instead of going into Services and re-starting it from there. Three times this happened: complete system freeze. No mouse, no keyboard, no disk activity...so I hit the power switch. After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 MHz system w/8 GB of RAM. My wife's system (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/2 GB of RAM) has a different problem. She's got more disk space than I do...about 1300 GB, so a Vipre scan takes longer. But on Feb.26 her Deep scan ran for 291 minutes. That jumped to 459, 463, 470, and 463 minutes on March 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Then on March 6th it jumped to 1092 minutes! (For what it's worth, my 244 minute scan on March 5th jumped to 488 minutes on March 6th for 500 MB of storage space). Yesterday morning I woke up real early and saw that her Deep scan was projected to take about 1100 minutes so I cancelled it. I then set the nightly scan to be a Quick scan, which took about 2-3 minutes. I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI http://www.NeenahPolitics.com http://www.TheTownCrank.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Tue Mar 10 08:38:13 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:38:13 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A defrag wouldn't hurt, I suppose. My deep scans don't take anywhere near that long - I've got Core 2 Duo 2.4 with 4gb of RAM, and about 700gb of space. The scan "only" takes around 3 hours, but that's at the same time as the spyware scans from Ad-Aware, Spybot and ZoneAlarm (I scan my pc religiously once a week, on Saturday nights). I'm going to upgrade to a Quad Core 2.66 next week (I just got my bonus!), so it'll be interesting to see how that affects scanning speed. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:29 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior Dear Group, I've used Vipre for a few months on my system (Windows XP x64) and on my wife's XP system. Didn't have any problems ... until a couple of days at the end of last week. After what I'm about to describe happened a couple of times, I started out after a fresh reboot by running SysInternals' Process Explorer showing the Performance Graph for the SBAMSvc.exe service. Then I'd start Thunderbird. The performance graph for the Vipre service would jump up to 50% CPU utilization (most of that was core CPU). Then, after email was downloaded, I'd click on any message to read it and the CPU utilization would jump to 100%. Most of that CPU utilization (about 70%) was core CPU. The CPU utilization stayed at 100% so I thought I'd shut down the service using Process Explorer. After having accomplished that and seeing the CPU utilization plunge back to 0, I tried re-starting Vipre; that is, I ran it from the Start menu instead of going into Services and re-starting it from there. Three times this happened: complete system freeze. No mouse, no keyboard, no disk activity...so I hit the power switch. After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 MHz system w/8 GB of RAM. My wife's system (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/2 GB of RAM) has a different problem. She's got more disk space than I do...about 1300 GB, so a Vipre scan takes longer. But on Feb.26 her Deep scan ran for 291 minutes. That jumped to 459, 463, 470, and 463 minutes on March 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Then on March 6th it jumped to 1092 minutes! (For what it's worth, my 244 minute scan on March 5th jumped to 488 minutes on March 6th for 500 MB of storage space). Yesterday morning I woke up real early and saw that her Deep scan was projected to take about 1100 minutes so I cancelled it. I then set the nightly scan to be a Quick scan, which took about 2-3 minutes. I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI http://www.NeenahPolitics.com http://www.TheTownCrank.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Mar 10 08:43:29 2009 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:43:29 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior Message-ID: Hi Steve Sounds perhaps like the thread "Vipre (was: Can't get IE to upload)" 2009-03-05? That said, a deep scan every night seems vastly overkill to me. I do it a couple of times a year. /gustav >>> erbachs at gmail.com 10-03-2009 14:28 >>> Dear Group, I've used Vipre for a few months on my system (Windows XP x64) and on my wife's XP system. Didn't have any problems ... until a couple of days at the end of last week. After what I'm about to describe happened a couple of times, I started out after a fresh reboot by running SysInternals' Process Explorer showing the Performance Graph for the SBAMSvc.exe service. Then I'd start Thunderbird. The performance graph for the Vipre service would jump up to 50% CPU utilization (most of that was core CPU). Then, after email was downloaded, I'd click on any message to read it and the CPU utilization would jump to 100%. Most of that CPU utilization (about 70%) was core CPU. The CPU utilization stayed at 100% so I thought I'd shut down the service using Process Explorer. After having accomplished that and seeing the CPU utilization plunge back to 0, I tried re-starting Vipre; that is, I ran it from the Start menu instead of going into Services and re-starting it from there. Three times this happened: complete system freeze. No mouse, no keyboard, no disk activity...so I hit the power switch. After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 MHz system w/8 GB of RAM. My wife's system (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/2 GB of RAM) has a different problem. She's got more disk space than I do...about 1300 GB, so a Vipre scan takes longer. But on Feb.26 her Deep scan ran for 291 minutes. That jumped to 459, 463, 470, and 463 minutes on March 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Then on March 6th it jumped to 1092 minutes! (For what it's worth, my 244 minute scan on March 5th jumped to 488 minutes on March 6th for 500 MB of storage space). Yesterday morning I woke up real early and saw that her Deep scan was projected to take about 1100 minutes so I cancelled it. I then set the nightly scan to be a Quick scan, which took about 2-3 minutes. I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI http://www.NeenahPolitics.com http://www.TheTownCrank.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 08:43:42 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:43:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27A35C8A0F35486A918BF2056BF1FA32@SusanOne> I'm having trouble too -- it hasn't updated since the 5th and it won't update -- it's like it can't connect -- the dialog box just sits there, with no activity. :( I love it though... I guess I should stop and restart it? Susan H. > Dear Group, >> > After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran > Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's > fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the > startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. >> I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but > I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last > for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. =====I have the same problem -- I schedule it for 1 AM and it's still running in the morning. I pause it and then restart it the next evening. Takes 2 nights! Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 08:44:51 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:44:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Photo editor Message-ID: <7710C0F9C25B43C9A81D6D59574CE72E@SusanOne> I'm looking for a free photo editor with a name like "Irfie" -- any help? It means nothing to me, but a friend's system died and she's mourning the loss of this particular software most of all. The name's not quite right, cause I can't find it. Susan H. From mmattys at rochester.rr.com Tue Mar 10 08:47:32 2009 From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Mike Mattys) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:47:32 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Photo editor References: <7710C0F9C25B43C9A81D6D59574CE72E@SusanOne> Message-ID: <23094BBEC7284B38AD45700416C8FD01@Mattys> www.irfanview.com Don't forget to download the plug-ins. - Michael R Mattys MapPoint and Database Dev www.mattysconsulting.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "DBA Tech List" Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Photo editor > I'm looking for a free photo editor with a name like "Irfie" -- any help? > It means nothing to me, but a friend's system died and she's mourning the > loss of this particular software most of all. The name's not quite right, > cause I can't find it. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Tue Mar 10 08:47:54 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:47:54 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Photo editor In-Reply-To: <7710C0F9C25B43C9A81D6D59574CE72E@SusanOne> References: <7710C0F9C25B43C9A81D6D59574CE72E@SusanOne> Message-ID: I think you mean IrfanView. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:45 PM To: DBA Tech List Subject: [dba-Tech] Photo editor I'm looking for a free photo editor with a name like "Irfie" -- any help? It means nothing to me, but a friend's system died and she's mourning the loss of this particular software most of all. The name's not quite right, cause I can't find it. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Mar 10 08:47:37 2009 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:47:37 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Photo editor Message-ID: Hi Susan IrfanView it is. Just google ... /gustav >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 10-03-2009 14:44 >>> I'm looking for a free photo editor with a name like "Irfie" -- any help? It means nothing to me, but a friend's system died and she's mourning the loss of this particular software most of all. The name's not quite right, cause I can't find it. Susan H From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 08:56:14 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:56:14 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Photo editor References: Message-ID: <30EE598928094378848DE8B481E607B7@SusanOne> Guys -- thank you so much -- I'm sure that's it because I remember it myself -- but didn't before. Thank you! Susan H. > Hi Susan > > IrfanView it is. Just google ... > > /gustav > >>>> ssharkins at gmail.com 10-03-2009 14:44 >>> > I'm looking for a free photo editor with a name like "Irfie" -- any help? > It means nothing to me, but a friend's system died and she's mourning the > loss of this particular software most of all. The name's not quite right, > cause I can't find it. > > Susan H > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Mar 10 11:14:38 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:14:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <022a01c9a19b$4ff3cb70$efdb6250$@net> Hi Steve, Sorry to see you had problems. Did you try to contact Sunbelt technical support? They have a technical support phone numbers (yes, you can actually talk to them) and a chat directly on their web page. Used to irritate me because it floated around. (I haven't noticed if they parked the thing or not but I complained loudly about the floating bit.) Valid beef - I think this may be what happened to Tina also, who I tried (in vain) to help through this issue. I thought it was related to the 5019 issue (see below) but it wasn't. The next day I found out about the Thunderbird issue but it was too late to help by then. This is a known issue that recently came about. Vipre was causing high CPU usage when using Thunderbird. Sunbelt released a fix about 3 hours after the issue became known. Every security product is going to have issues. The main difference for me (besides being a better product than the others ;o) is that Sunbelt support actually will let you call them and for their enterprise products they have forums where you can participate and get real answers. They do have consumer forums but they were based on a third party forum site and they are revamping their support site so that everything is all in one place. Just to let you know a bit about what's going on in the Vipre world - Sunbelt released a couple of new technologies to combat the constantly evolving malware threats (like AntiVirusXP2009). This interview is a pretty good read (although it seems to be a bit too verbatim at times). (Drew and some of you that are interested in virtualization would probably like to read this.) http://www.h-online.com/security/New-VIPRE-fangs-An-interview-with-Sunbelt-C EO-Alex-Eckelberry--/features/112535/0 5019 Issue: When Sunbelt released the MX-V technology last month (via update 5019) it created havoc in a couple of enterprise situations. They had actually sent out a notice to all enterprise customers and resellers that they were going to do this and that everyone should be aware that the update for this would be larger than normal and hence take more bandwidth than normal. Normally, Vipre updates are purposely kept to a small size, one thing we like in an enterprise environment (versus the McAfee Super-dats at over 100MB a crack). Things went fairly bad on a couple of sites (6000 plus clients on a network can use up some bandwidth). I was reading the Vipre list pretty thoroughly as I didn't want any of clients to suffer network stoppages because of this and I was fairly surprised at the eventual outcome of these tense situations. (One of my clients suffered one issue, fairly minor, Oracle.exe was prevented from starting on reboot. I didn't even know they had Oracle - it's a background process for another product that I didn't install. Added it to the admin known good apps and all is well.) After all was said and done, the network/security admins all praised Sunbelt for their constant communication and support throughout the problem. Even though this had basically interrupted their business, these people PRAISED Sunbelt for how they handled it because of their past horrific experiences with other enterprise security vendors such as Symantec, McAfee, Trend, etc. I was a bit shocked. These were the same people who a day or two earlier were ready to hang Sunbelt staff for their sins. I guess the reality is that this is a field wrought with problems and live support is the key to success. After everything was back to normal the CEO of Sunbelt actually emailed a letter of apology for the problems and listing a series of items they were going to implement internally so that it would never happen again. In other words they actually listen to their customer base. I wish I could find the letter. I would forward it. Unfortunately I delete Vipre Enterprise list emails as there is an online archive of it and I have yet to find the letter in the archives. I rarely think about CEO's of large companies but I think if I were to be one, this is how I would do it. If you read the interview above - he evens talks like me ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:29 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior Dear Group, I've used Vipre for a few months on my system (Windows XP x64) and on my wife's XP system. Didn't have any problems ... until a couple of days at the end of last week. After what I'm about to describe happened a couple of times, I started out after a fresh reboot by running SysInternals' Process Explorer showing the Performance Graph for the SBAMSvc.exe service. Then I'd start Thunderbird. The performance graph for the Vipre service would jump up to 50% CPU utilization (most of that was core CPU). Then, after email was downloaded, I'd click on any message to read it and the CPU utilization would jump to 100%. Most of that CPU utilization (about 70%) was core CPU. The CPU utilization stayed at 100% so I thought I'd shut down the service using Process Explorer. After having accomplished that and seeing the CPU utilization plunge back to 0, I tried re-starting Vipre; that is, I ran it from the Start menu instead of going into Services and re-starting it from there. Three times this happened: complete system freeze. No mouse, no keyboard, no disk activity...so I hit the power switch. After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 MHz system w/8 GB of RAM. My wife's system (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/2 GB of RAM) has a different problem. She's got more disk space than I do...about 1300 GB, so a Vipre scan takes longer. But on Feb.26 her Deep scan ran for 291 minutes. That jumped to 459, 463, 470, and 463 minutes on March 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Then on March 6th it jumped to 1092 minutes! (For what it's worth, my 244 minute scan on March 5th jumped to 488 minutes on March 6th for 500 MB of storage space). Yesterday morning I woke up real early and saw that her Deep scan was projected to take about 1100 minutes so I cancelled it. I then set the nightly scan to be a Quick scan, which took about 2-3 minutes. I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI http://www.NeenahPolitics.com http://www.TheTownCrank.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Mar 10 11:14:38 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:14:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: <27A35C8A0F35486A918BF2056BF1FA32@SusanOne> References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> <27A35C8A0F35486A918BF2056BF1FA32@SusanOne> Message-ID: <022201c9a19b$4f8d4170$eea7c450$@net> Susan, If you are getting a service warning 3-4 times a day that it couldn't update then it may be that your firewall is blocking the update port. Other than that there is no reason that it should not be updating. If you turn the firewall off and it's still not updating I think you should uninstall Vipre, reboot and then reinstall it. PS: I found my box of RAM finally! Now I have to match it against your specs to see if any might work. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:44 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior I'm having trouble too -- it hasn't updated since the 5th and it won't update -- it's like it can't connect -- the dialog box just sits there, with no activity. :( I love it though... I guess I should stop and restart it? Susan H. > Dear Group, >> > After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran > Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's > fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the > startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. >> I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but > I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last > for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. =====I have the same problem -- I schedule it for 1 AM and it's still running in the morning. I pause it and then restart it the next evening. Takes 2 nights! Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Mar 10 11:14:38 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:14:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <022301c9a19b$4fac3b20$ef04b160$@net> I run a deeps can on Tuesday nights and a quick scan every day at noon. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior Hi Steve Sounds perhaps like the thread "Vipre (was: Can't get IE to upload)" 2009-03-05? That said, a deep scan every night seems vastly overkill to me. I do it a couple of times a year. /gustav >>> erbachs at gmail.com 10-03-2009 14:28 >>> Dear Group, I've used Vipre for a few months on my system (Windows XP x64) and on my wife's XP system. Didn't have any problems ... until a couple of days at the end of last week. After what I'm about to describe happened a couple of times, I started out after a fresh reboot by running SysInternals' Process Explorer showing the Performance Graph for the SBAMSvc.exe service. Then I'd start Thunderbird. The performance graph for the Vipre service would jump up to 50% CPU utilization (most of that was core CPU). Then, after email was downloaded, I'd click on any message to read it and the CPU utilization would jump to 100%. Most of that CPU utilization (about 70%) was core CPU. The CPU utilization stayed at 100% so I thought I'd shut down the service using Process Explorer. After having accomplished that and seeing the CPU utilization plunge back to 0, I tried re-starting Vipre; that is, I ran it from the Start menu instead of going into Services and re-starting it from there. Three times this happened: complete system freeze. No mouse, no keyboard, no disk activity...so I hit the power switch. After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 MHz system w/8 GB of RAM. My wife's system (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/2 GB of RAM) has a different problem. She's got more disk space than I do...about 1300 GB, so a Vipre scan takes longer. But on Feb.26 her Deep scan ran for 291 minutes. That jumped to 459, 463, 470, and 463 minutes on March 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Then on March 6th it jumped to 1092 minutes! (For what it's worth, my 244 minute scan on March 5th jumped to 488 minutes on March 6th for 500 MB of storage space). Yesterday morning I woke up real early and saw that her Deep scan was projected to take about 1100 minutes so I cancelled it. I then set the nightly scan to be a Quick scan, which took about 2-3 minutes. I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI http://www.NeenahPolitics.com http://www.TheTownCrank.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 11:22:59 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:22:59 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com><27A35C8A0F35486A918BF2056BF1FA32@SusanOne> <022201c9a19b$4f8d4170$eea7c450$@net> Message-ID: <827374CFBA134FF08EE33D7ED1D8349E@SusanOne> Yes, firewall's on, but I now have a wireless router with a firewall -- Okay to turn off Windows firewall to see if that's it? I had to reboot to update today. Susan H. > Susan, > If you are getting a service warning 3-4 times a day that it couldn't > update > then it may be that your firewall is blocking the update port. Other than > that there is no reason that it should not be updating. If you turn the > firewall off and it's still not updating I think you should uninstall > Vipre, > reboot and then reinstall it. > > PS: I found my box of RAM finally! Now I have to match it against your > specs > to see if any might work. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:44 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior > > I'm having trouble too -- it hasn't updated since the 5th and it won't > update -- it's like it can't connect -- the dialog box just sits there, > with > > no activity. :( > > I love it though... I guess I should stop and restart it? > > Susan H. > > >> Dear Group, >>> >> After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran >> Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's >> fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the >> startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. >>> I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but >> I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last >> for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. > > =====I have the same problem -- I schedule it for 1 AM and it's still > running in the morning. I pause it and then restart it the next evening. > Takes 2 nights! > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Mar 10 11:45:13 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:45:13 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: <827374CFBA134FF08EE33D7ED1D8349E@SusanOne> References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com><27A35C8A0F35486A918BF2056BF1FA32@SusanOne> <022201c9a19b$4f8d4170$eea7c450$@net> <827374CFBA134FF08EE33D7ED1D8349E@SusanOne> Message-ID: <027e01c9a19f$95b503f0$c11f0bd0$@net> Yes, it's ok to turn the firewall off if you're testing something. Just don't go about business as usual before turning it back on. I really think for you the best, easiest thing to do would be to download the Vipre install, uninstall, reset your firewall to defaults, reboot and reinstall. Go to http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/ to download the trial version, (it should pick up your license key from the registry when you reinstall). Once you reinstall if the firewall prompts you for something let it go through and tell it to always allow that action. Then try your other software and do the same. If a firewall prompts you out of the blue then it's time to be suspicious. Jot down the process asking to be let though and ask this list if it's ok :o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:23 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior Yes, firewall's on, but I now have a wireless router with a firewall -- Okay to turn off Windows firewall to see if that's it? From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Mar 11 01:57:03 2009 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:57:03 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] X-Plane In-Reply-To: <6E374AC8F82E427A966055D4885401A3@SusanOne> References: <6E374AC8F82E427A966055D4885401A3@SusanOne> Message-ID: <40744B5F074447339C7D29FDCE4C3286@creativesystemdesigns.com> I have been looking at the X-Plane program. It is a flight-simulator like MS Flight Sim but that is where the similarity ends. This is a real training simulator program. It is actually being used in training facilities. It runs of Windows, Mac and Linux and for a short time is selling for only $39.00. http://www.x-plane.com/ There are many additional scenery and new plane simulations coming on line all the time. I understand that there is a new a Lockheed Starfighter simulator coming on line shortly. (If this was supposed to be a secret you did not hear it from me.) ;-) Check out this YouTube vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WPy4JQ6FjE Helicopters, single engine, passenger planes, bombers, fighters, experimentals, gliders... simulate what if scenarios of weather, mechanical failures, complex landings and challenges of all kind. Jim From erbachs at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 12:01:38 2009 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:01:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39cb22f30903111001y3a99a290lbacede5f24cd3cc5@mail.gmail.com> John, Defrag is probably a good idea for Janet's PC. She does a LOT with graphics and music. She constantly has to off-load excess stuff to DVD or a backup drive. For now I've got her system running "Quick" scans overnight...just takes a couple minutes. Steve Erbach On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > A defrag wouldn't hurt, I suppose. My deep scans don't take anywhere near that long - I've got Core 2 Duo 2.4 with 4gb of RAM, and about 700gb of space. The scan "only" takes around 3 hours, but that's at the same time as the spyware scans from Ad-Aware, Spybot and ZoneAlarm (I scan my pc religiously once a week, on Saturday nights). I'm going to upgrade to a Quad Core 2.66 next week (I just got my bonus!), so it'll be interesting to see how that affects scanning speed. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:29 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior > > Dear Group, > > I've used Vipre for a few months on my system (Windows XP x64) and on my wife's XP system. ?Didn't have any problems ... until a couple of days at the end of last week. > > After what I'm about to describe happened a couple of times, I started out after a fresh reboot by running SysInternals' Process Explorer showing the Performance Graph for the SBAMSvc.exe service. From erbachs at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 12:03:00 2009 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:03:00 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39cb22f30903111003v76e23419ge05f3d4d763ffa86@mail.gmail.com> Gustav, You're right; I read that thread AFTER I posted this one. Sorry! I will take your advice about the frequency of deep scans under advisement. Thanks. Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Steve > > Sounds perhaps like the thread "Vipre (was: Can't get IE to upload)" 2009-03-05? > > That said, a deep scan every night seems vastly overkill to me. I do it a couple of times a year. > > /gustav > > >>>> erbachs at gmail.com 10-03-2009 14:28 >>> > Dear Group, > > I've used Vipre for a few months on my system (Windows XP x64) and on > my wife's XP system. ?Didn't have any problems ... until a couple of > days at the end of last week. > > After what I'm about to describe happened a couple of times, I started > out after a fresh reboot by running SysInternals' Process Explorer > showing the Performance Graph for the SBAMSvc.exe service. From erbachs at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 12:12:20 2009 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:12:20 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: <022a01c9a19b$4ff3cb70$efdb6250$@net> References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> <022a01c9a19b$4ff3cb70$efdb6250$@net> Message-ID: <39cb22f30903111012k6e51b15t93368dc7b45a7511@mail.gmail.com> John, >> Sorry to see you had problems. << I didn't mean to cause you any grief. I've lived with balky computers for about half my life now; I'm not likely to shed tears over the latest incident. I haven't tried contacting Sunbelt support; I rarely call the manufacturer any more. I figured that there were other avenues. I considered trying a Sunbelt forum if it had gone on for too long...but running a Quick scan instead of a Deep scan on Janet's machine solved her issue for now; and mine suddenly started behaving as I related in my first message. Yes, it's nice to know *why* stuff (read "shit") like this happens. >> Every security product is going to have issues. << This is so. I don't want to go so far as to do what Dickford claims to be doing -- or *not* doing; that is, going "bare". While I don't visit dicey sites and I don't let my kids use my system, I like having a little peace-of-mind coverage. >> These were the same people who a day or two earlier were ready to hang Sunbelt staff for their sins. I guess the reality is that this is a field wrought with problems and live support is the key to success. << *Very* interesting! I'd have to hand it to Sunbelt, too. Sounds like they went the extra furlong on this one. >> If you read the interview above - he evens talks like me ;o) << Nah! He doesn't have that Winneconne accent! Thanks, John. Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:14 AM, John Bartow wrote: > Hi Steve, > Sorry to see you had problems. Did you try to contact Sunbelt technical > support? They have a technical support phone numbers (yes, you can actually > talk to them) and a chat directly on their web page. Used to irritate me > because it floated around. (I haven't noticed if they parked the thing or > not but I complained loudly about the floating bit.) > > Valid beef - I think this may be what happened to Tina also, who I tried (in > vain) to help through this issue. I thought it was related to the 5019 issue > (see below) but it wasn't. The next day I found out about the Thunderbird > issue but it was too late to help by then. > > This is a known issue that recently came about. Vipre was causing high CPU > usage when using Thunderbird. Sunbelt released a fix about 3 hours after the > issue became known. > > Every security product is going to have issues. The main difference for me > (besides being a better product than the others ;o) is that Sunbelt support > actually will let you call them and for their enterprise products they have > forums where you can participate and get real answers. They do have consumer > forums but they were based on a third party forum site and they are > revamping their support site so that everything is all in one place. > > Just to let you know a bit about what's going on in the Vipre world - > Sunbelt released a couple of new technologies to combat the constantly > evolving malware threats (like AntiVirusXP2009). > This interview is a pretty good read (although it seems to be a bit too > verbatim at times). (Drew and some of you that are interested in > virtualization would probably like to read this.) > http://www.h-online.com/security/New-VIPRE-fangs-An-interview-with-Sunbelt-C > EO-Alex-Eckelberry--/features/112535/0 > > 5019 Issue: > When Sunbelt released the MX-V technology last month (via update 5019) it > created havoc in a couple of enterprise situations. They had actually sent > out a notice to all enterprise customers and resellers that they were going > to do this and that everyone should be aware that the update for this would > be larger than normal and hence take more bandwidth than normal. Normally, > Vipre updates are purposely kept to a small size, one thing we like in an > enterprise environment (versus the McAfee Super-dats at over 100MB a crack). > Things went fairly bad on a couple of sites (6000 plus clients on a network > can use up some bandwidth). I was reading the Vipre list pretty thoroughly > as I didn't want any of clients to suffer network stoppages because of this > and I was fairly surprised at the eventual outcome of these tense > situations. (One of my clients suffered one issue, fairly minor, Oracle.exe > was prevented from starting on reboot. I didn't even know they had Oracle - > it's a background process for another product that I didn't install. Added > it to the admin known good apps and all is well.) After all was said and > done, the network/security admins all praised Sunbelt for their constant > communication and support throughout the problem. Even though this had > basically interrupted their business, these people PRAISED Sunbelt for how > they handled it because of their past horrific experiences with other > enterprise security vendors such as Symantec, McAfee, Trend, etc. I was a > bit shocked. These were the same people who a day or two earlier were ready > to hang Sunbelt staff for their sins. I guess the reality is that this is a > field wrought with problems and live support is the key to success. > > After everything was back to normal the CEO of Sunbelt actually emailed a > letter of apology for the problems and listing a series of items they were > going to implement internally so that it would never happen again. In other > words they actually listen to their customer base. I wish I could find the > letter. I would forward it. Unfortunately I delete Vipre Enterprise list > emails as there is an online archive of it and I have yet to find the letter > in the archives. > > I rarely think about CEO's of large companies but I think if I were to be > one, this is how I would do it. If you read the interview above - he evens > talks like me ;o) From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Wed Mar 11 12:48:19 2009 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:48:19 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] X-Plane In-Reply-To: <40744B5F074447339C7D29FDCE4C3286@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <6E374AC8F82E427A966055D4885401A3@SusanOne> <40744B5F074447339C7D29FDCE4C3286@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <0550466F519E459599488867901C0ADD@BPCS> Wow, that looks great, $39? What a deal. I down loaded the demo, and if it works on my Vista 64 machine I'll spring for it. Now if I could only make the time to play with it. Thanks Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:57 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] X-Plane I have been looking at the X-Plane program. It is a flight-simulator like MS Flight Sim but that is where the similarity ends. This is a real training simulator program. It is actually being used in training facilities. It runs of Windows, Mac and Linux and for a short time is selling for only $39.00. http://www.x-plane.com/ There are many additional scenery and new plane simulations coming on line all the time. I understand that there is a new a Lockheed Starfighter simulator coming on line shortly. (If this was supposed to be a secret you did not hear it from me.) ;-) Check out this YouTube vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WPy4JQ6FjE Helicopters, single engine, passenger planes, bombers, fighters, experimentals, gliders... simulate what if scenarios of weather, mechanical failures, complex landings and challenges of all kind. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 15:42:30 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:42:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Looking for Office add-ins and free security tools Message-ID: <9F85569DEFE240B7B09992A40B0F36A9@SusanOne> I'm writing about Office add-in's and free security tools -- I'd like to know your favorites on both. If there's enough response, I'll list the developers in the free security tools, similar to the one I did last month on "10 IT professionals share the tools they can't live without" -- it'll be a list of developers, with a short bio and a little free pr. Only criteria is, it has to be free and has to be a security product -- it's Okay if there's a free edition and a more powerful buy-in edition. The Office add-in, will be strictly a list of add-ins, but I hope you'll play along. :) I don't think this is so off topic as to do it privately -- I would imagine most members will be interested in the responses. However, moderators -- if you want this off list, let us know. Once I have a list, I'll take it private. I won't discuss the actual article or its contents (developer bio's and the like) on list. Thanks! Susan H. From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Mar 12 06:47:38 2009 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:47:38 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B8F65A.70001@torchlake.com> Hi Steve, That sounds very much like what happened to my system and my Dad's. This is apparently because our automatic definitions update happened during the couple of hours that a bad definition update was on the server - Monday March 2 I think, definition 5019. For my own system, I followed the instructions given on SunBelt's website - download a file to disable Vipre's services, uninstall Vipre, download another file to reinstall Vipre, update definitions. This was not successful. What did work was to use SystemRestore and put my system back to February 28, then update the definitions. In my case, since I had actually uninstalled all of of Vipre, I had to reinstall Vipre after the SystemRestore, but having learned my lesson spending all day Saturday to fix my system, I fixed my Dad's system in twenty minutes. None of my other computers was on at the time the bad definitions file was on the server. So, life is good and my system is back to normal. T Steve Erbach wrote: > Dear Group, > > I've used Vipre for a few months on my system (Windows XP x64) and on > my wife's XP system. Didn't have any problems ... until a couple of > days at the end of last week. > > After what I'm about to describe happened a couple of times, I started > out after a fresh reboot by running SysInternals' Process Explorer > showing the Performance Graph for the SBAMSvc.exe service. > > Then I'd start Thunderbird. The performance graph for the Vipre > service would jump up to 50% CPU utilization (most of that was core > CPU). Then, after email was downloaded, I'd click on any message to > read it and the CPU utilization would jump to 100%. Most of that CPU > utilization (about 70%) was core CPU. > > The CPU utilization stayed at 100% so I thought I'd shut down the > service using Process Explorer. After having accomplished that and > seeing the CPU utilization plunge back to 0, I tried re-starting > Vipre; that is, I ran it from the Start menu instead of going into > Services and re-starting it from there. Three times this happened: > complete system freeze. No mouse, no keyboard, no disk activity...so > I hit the power switch. > > After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran > Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's > fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the > startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. > > I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 MHz system w/8 GB of RAM. > > My wife's system (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/2 GB of RAM) has a > different problem. She's got more disk space than I do...about 1300 > GB, so a Vipre scan takes longer. But on Feb.26 her Deep scan ran for > 291 minutes. That jumped to 459, 463, 470, and 463 minutes on March > 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Then on March 6th it jumped to 1092 minutes! > (For what it's worth, my 244 minute scan on March 5th jumped to 488 > minutes on March 6th for 500 MB of storage space). > > Yesterday morning I woke up real early and saw that her Deep scan was > projected to take about 1100 minutes so I cancelled it. I then set > the nightly scan to be a Quick scan, which took about 2-3 minutes. > > I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but > I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last > for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. > > Regards, > > Steve Erbach > Neenah, WI > http://www.NeenahPolitics.com > http://www.TheTownCrank.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Mar 12 06:56:04 2009 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:56:04 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior In-Reply-To: <022a01c9a19b$4ff3cb70$efdb6250$@net> References: <39cb22f30903100628g28a9c1coc3ea09fc0c27e0ff@mail.gmail.com> <022a01c9a19b$4ff3cb70$efdb6250$@net> Message-ID: <49B8F854.1060106@torchlake.com> John, Thanks so much for your continuing help and generosity of spirit. Vipre is an excellent product and I will continue to use it. By the end of last Saturday I was exhausted and very frustrated over the loss of a whole day's work time. After a good night's sleep, I took care of Dad's computer in a flash. He has very little experience with the issues of security that we in this group take in stride, so his first question to me was "What do you think about Avast? Should I switch to that?" I said that every security product has glitches come along, and I acknowledged that this glitch was serious, but I tried to show that I still have more confidence in Vipre than in any of the other products out there. T John Bartow wrote: > Hi Steve, > Sorry to see you had problems. Did you try to contact Sunbelt technical > support? They have a technical support phone numbers (yes, you can actually > talk to them) and a chat directly on their web page. Used to irritate me > because it floated around. (I haven't noticed if they parked the thing or > not but I complained loudly about the floating bit.) > > Valid beef - I think this may be what happened to Tina also, who I tried (in > vain) to help through this issue. I thought it was related to the 5019 issue > (see below) but it wasn't. The next day I found out about the Thunderbird > issue but it was too late to help by then. > > This is a known issue that recently came about. Vipre was causing high CPU > usage when using Thunderbird. Sunbelt released a fix about 3 hours after the > issue became known. > > Every security product is going to have issues. The main difference for me > (besides being a better product than the others ;o) is that Sunbelt support > actually will let you call them and for their enterprise products they have > forums where you can participate and get real answers. They do have consumer > forums but they were based on a third party forum site and they are > revamping their support site so that everything is all in one place. > > Just to let you know a bit about what's going on in the Vipre world - > Sunbelt released a couple of new technologies to combat the constantly > evolving malware threats (like AntiVirusXP2009). > This interview is a pretty good read (although it seems to be a bit too > verbatim at times). (Drew and some of you that are interested in > virtualization would probably like to read this.) > http://www.h-online.com/security/New-VIPRE-fangs-An-interview-with-Sunbelt-C > EO-Alex-Eckelberry--/features/112535/0 > > 5019 Issue: > When Sunbelt released the MX-V technology last month (via update 5019) it > created havoc in a couple of enterprise situations. They had actually sent > out a notice to all enterprise customers and resellers that they were going > to do this and that everyone should be aware that the update for this would > be larger than normal and hence take more bandwidth than normal. Normally, > Vipre updates are purposely kept to a small size, one thing we like in an > enterprise environment (versus the McAfee Super-dats at over 100MB a crack). > Things went fairly bad on a couple of sites (6000 plus clients on a network > can use up some bandwidth). I was reading the Vipre list pretty thoroughly > as I didn't want any of clients to suffer network stoppages because of this > and I was fairly surprised at the eventual outcome of these tense > situations. (One of my clients suffered one issue, fairly minor, Oracle.exe > was prevented from starting on reboot. I didn't even know they had Oracle - > it's a background process for another product that I didn't install. Added > it to the admin known good apps and all is well.) After all was said and > done, the network/security admins all praised Sunbelt for their constant > communication and support throughout the problem. Even though this had > basically interrupted their business, these people PRAISED Sunbelt for how > they handled it because of their past horrific experiences with other > enterprise security vendors such as Symantec, McAfee, Trend, etc. I was a > bit shocked. These were the same people who a day or two earlier were ready > to hang Sunbelt staff for their sins. I guess the reality is that this is a > field wrought with problems and live support is the key to success. > > After everything was back to normal the CEO of Sunbelt actually emailed a > letter of apology for the problems and listing a series of items they were > going to implement internally so that it would never happen again. In other > words they actually listen to their customer base. I wish I could find the > letter. I would forward it. Unfortunately I delete Vipre Enterprise list > emails as there is an online archive of it and I have yet to find the letter > in the archives. > > I rarely think about CEO's of large companies but I think if I were to be > one, this is how I would do it. If you read the interview above - he evens > talks like me ;o) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:29 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting Vipre behavior > > Dear Group, > > I've used Vipre for a few months on my system (Windows XP x64) and on > my wife's XP system. Didn't have any problems ... until a couple of > days at the end of last week. > > After what I'm about to describe happened a couple of times, I started > out after a fresh reboot by running SysInternals' Process Explorer > showing the Performance Graph for the SBAMSvc.exe service. > > Then I'd start Thunderbird. The performance graph for the Vipre > service would jump up to 50% CPU utilization (most of that was core > CPU). Then, after email was downloaded, I'd click on any message to > read it and the CPU utilization would jump to 100%. Most of that CPU > utilization (about 70%) was core CPU. > > The CPU utilization stayed at 100% so I thought I'd shut down the > service using Process Explorer. After having accomplished that and > seeing the CPU utilization plunge back to 0, I tried re-starting > Vipre; that is, I ran it from the Start menu instead of going into > Services and re-starting it from there. Three times this happened: > complete system freeze. No mouse, no keyboard, no disk activity...so > I hit the power switch. > > After a couple days of this, I started my system back up and ran > Process Explorer and whatever else I run normally...and everything's > fine! I didn't un-install anything; I didn't change anything in the > startup programs...Vipre just started working as it's supposed to. > > I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 MHz system w/8 GB of RAM. > > My wife's system (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/2 GB of RAM) has a > different problem. She's got more disk space than I do...about 1300 > GB, so a Vipre scan takes longer. But on Feb.26 her Deep scan ran for > 291 minutes. That jumped to 459, 463, 470, and 463 minutes on March > 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Then on March 6th it jumped to 1092 minutes! > (For what it's worth, my 244 minute scan on March 5th jumped to 488 > minutes on March 6th for 500 MB of storage space). > > Yesterday morning I woke up real early and saw that her Deep scan was > projected to take about 1100 minutes so I cancelled it. I then set > the nightly scan to be a Quick scan, which took about 2-3 minutes. > > I'm mainly venting and I'm happy that my system has settled down...but > I'd like my wife's system to run Deep scans at night that don't last > for 18 hours...and I don't know what to do about it. > > Regards, > > Steve Erbach > Neenah, WI > http://www.NeenahPolitics.com > http://www.TheTownCrank.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 08:18:55 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:18:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones Message-ID: <21279DEE5E854ADDA7BF96B9D88AE2F7@SusanOne> Do any of you support iPhones for users? If so, what kind of support do they require? Susan H. From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Mar 13 08:35:09 2009 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:35:09 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones Message-ID: Hi Susan Not actively. User must be on her/his knees. Set up and test of the e-mail settings. /gustav >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 13-03-2009 14:18 >>> Do any of you support iPhones for users? If so, what kind of support do they require? Susan H. From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Mar 13 08:41:51 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:41:51 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We don't support them either. They're very good at helping users set up their exchange email without any intervention from us though... Which is sightly annoying. It's sometimes hard to tell users that we don't support them, because it's not company policy to let them access email on their personal phones. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:35 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] iPhones Hi Susan Not actively. User must be on her/his knees. Set up and test of the e-mail settings. /gustav >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 13-03-2009 14:18 >>> Do any of you support iPhones for users? If so, what kind of support do they require? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 08:44:36 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:44:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones References: Message-ID: <359838A6A65D4DB1AE2EEF01D0759A3D@SusanOne> What I've been reading suggests a lot of security holes, not for the company at large, but the person themselves -- something I hadn't been aware of before starting this research. I think there's a lot more people need to be aware of, but I don't know how many companies are actually supplying and support iPhones for their employees -- so I don't know whether it's a legitmate topic of not. Susan H. > Hi Susan > > Not actively. User must be on her/his knees. > Set up and test of the e-mail settings. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 08:46:50 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:46:50 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones References: Message-ID: <587D96AD4AC3455C8E626FBCCA66E224@SusanOne> Well, that's interesting -- do you see them becoming a support issue in the foreseeable future? Why don't you support them? Susan H. > We don't support them either. They're very good at helping users set up > their exchange email without any intervention from us though... Which is > sightly annoying. It's sometimes hard to tell users that we don't support > them, because it's not company policy to let them access email on their > personal phones. From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Mar 13 08:52:38 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:52:38 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones In-Reply-To: <587D96AD4AC3455C8E626FBCCA66E224@SusanOne> References: <587D96AD4AC3455C8E626FBCCA66E224@SusanOne> Message-ID: We only support company issued hardware, and we don't issue iPhones yet, that's all. If we started supporting every device everyone wanted to connect to the network, we'd never have time to do any actual work, plus we'd have to be conversant with every single phone and PDA out there... Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:47 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] iPhones Well, that's interesting -- do you see them becoming a support issue in the foreseeable future? Why don't you support them? Susan H. > We don't support them either. They're very good at helping users set > up their exchange email without any intervention from us though... > Which is sightly annoying. It's sometimes hard to tell users that we > don't support them, because it's not company policy to let them access > email on their personal phones. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 08:58:46 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:58:46 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones References: <587D96AD4AC3455C8E626FBCCA66E224@SusanOne> Message-ID: Do you see that type of support in the future -- a niche for somebody? "Jon's the iPhone guy, ask him..." Susan H. > We only support company issued hardware, and we don't issue iPhones yet, > that's all. If we started supporting every device everyone wanted to > connect to the network, we'd never have time to do any actual work, plus > we'd have to be conversant with every single phone and PDA out there... From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Mar 13 09:36:25 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:36:25 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones In-Reply-To: References: <587D96AD4AC3455C8E626FBCCA66E224@SusanOne> Message-ID: Not here. We only hand out HTC phones, and have about 5 different models of those to keep up with (and yes, they're all different!), so that's hard enough, without adding other people's technology and menu maps into the equation. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:59 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] iPhones Do you see that type of support in the future -- a niche for somebody? "Jon's the iPhone guy, ask him..." Susan H. > We only support company issued hardware, and we don't issue iPhones > yet, that's all. If we started supporting every device everyone wanted > to connect to the network, we'd never have time to do any actual work, > plus we'd have to be conversant with every single phone and PDA out there... _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 10:10:35 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:10:35 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Automation between Word and Excel/Access Message-ID: <3B75A10F9B4C469B85D0010D85FDC7F6@SusanOne> Is there a way to connect/link a Word field to an Access field or an Excel cell/range? Susan H. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 11:03:02 2009 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:03:02 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Automation between Word and Excel/Access In-Reply-To: <3B75A10F9B4C469B85D0010D85FDC7F6@SusanOne> References: <3B75A10F9B4C469B85D0010D85FDC7F6@SusanOne> Message-ID: <29f585dd0903130903h41e5089dw52f410f1b3aac8ac@mail.gmail.com> There may well be, but the stuff I've done used bookmarks instead. That was because I was running things from Access. Not sure how to handle it if Word is the boss instead. A. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Is there a way to connect/link a Word field to an Access field or an Excel > cell/range? > > Susan H. > From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 11:06:12 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:06:12 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Automation between Word and Excel/Access References: <3B75A10F9B4C469B85D0010D85FDC7F6@SusanOne> <29f585dd0903130903h41e5089dw52f410f1b3aac8ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5FF2FCD4B5F444399380790B20453E64@SusanOne> I know how to get information from a Word field into Access, but it takes a lot of code, but if that's the only way, I can do it -- just wondering if there was an easier way. Susan H. > There may well be, but the stuff I've done used bookmarks instead. That > was > because I was running things from Access. Not sure how to handle it if > Word > is the boss instead. > > A. From joe.rojas at symmetrynb.com Fri Mar 13 11:11:15 2009 From: joe.rojas at symmetrynb.com (Rojas, Joe) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:11:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones In-Reply-To: References: <587D96AD4AC3455C8E626FBCCA66E224@SusanOne> Message-ID: <5BAE0A5B5D7E414D96584521B26E6C09C42602@DPYUSNBEXS1.snb.local> I support them. But then again, I'm the IT Manager and the only iPhone user. I was nice to myself and granted my request. Just trying to be the kinder, gentler IT guy. Joe -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:36 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] iPhones Not here. We only hand out HTC phones, and have about 5 different models of those to keep up with (and yes, they're all different!), so that's hard enough, without adding other people's technology and menu maps into the equation. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:59 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] iPhones Do you see that type of support in the future -- a niche for somebody? "Jon's the iPhone guy, ask him..." Susan H. > We only support company issued hardware, and we don't issue iPhones > yet, that's all. If we started supporting every device everyone wanted > to connect to the network, we'd never have time to do any actual work, > plus we'd have to be conversant with every single phone and PDA out there... _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 11:13:44 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:13:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones References: <587D96AD4AC3455C8E626FBCCA66E224@SusanOne> <5BAE0A5B5D7E414D96584521B26E6C09C42602@DPYUSNBEXS1.snb.local> Message-ID: <240E6D8CF54F49C3950EBC1F74BD5309@SusanOne> That's too funny! ;) Do you see iPhone support as something coming down the road, or something to avoid if at all possible? Susan H. >I support them. > > But then again, I'm the IT Manager and the only iPhone user. > I was nice to myself and granted my request. > Just trying to be the kinder, gentler IT guy. From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Mar 13 11:20:18 2009 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:20:18 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <597913E10D7B4171AF582705F2A935D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> To really do anything on the iphones you have to do a crack to get into the OS. As soon as that is done we are heading into unsupported territory. When someone approaches me on iphone issues I always reference them to this young fellow who specializes in these ventures. Passive support but little else. Jim >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 13-03-2009 14:18 >>> Do any of you support iPhones for users? If so, what kind of support do they require? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 12:31:47 2009 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:31:47 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Automation between Word and Excel/Access In-Reply-To: <5FF2FCD4B5F444399380790B20453E64@SusanOne> References: <3B75A10F9B4C469B85D0010D85FDC7F6@SusanOne> <29f585dd0903130903h41e5089dw52f410f1b3aac8ac@mail.gmail.com> <5FF2FCD4B5F444399380790B20453E64@SusanOne> Message-ID: <29f585dd0903131031g66c18e9eo6ba4d9ffee5b0af8@mail.gmail.com> Have you checked Helen Feddema's site? She's pretty much the go-to person on office automation. You may find something useful there. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > I know how to get information from a Word field into Access, but it takes a > lot of code, but if that's the only way, I can do it -- just wondering if > there was an easier way. > > Susan H. > From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 12:44:16 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:44:16 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Automation between Word and Excel/Access References: <3B75A10F9B4C469B85D0010D85FDC7F6@SusanOne><29f585dd0903130903h41e5089dw52f410f1b3aac8ac@mail.gmail.com><5FF2FCD4B5F444399380790B20453E64@SusanOne> <29f585dd0903131031g66c18e9eo6ba4d9ffee5b0af8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1E0924658D62410DBBE9C892D62EFB6E@SusanOne> Yeah, she is the authority, isn't she? :) Wow... Yes, the code we use is very similar. Susan H. > Have you checked Helen Feddema's site? She's pretty much the go-to person > on > office automation. You may find something useful there. From ssharkins at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 11:57:17 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:57:17 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? Message-ID: I've put an old system with Windows 2000 back online and I can't find an Automatic Update feature -- it's been so long, I just don't remember. Does anyone know off the top of their head if AU was around back then, but part of another panel -- checked Administrative and didn't find anything. Susan H. From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Sat Mar 14 13:36:31 2009 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:36:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Susan, If all else fails use this URL and save the shortcut. Microsoft update will also update Office and other MS programs as well as Windows. I'm not sure Win 2000 is still being updated but you can easily find out with this URL. It should select the correct location automatically as my machine went to the Vista Update. http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/ HTH Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "DBA Tech List" Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? I've put an old system with Windows 2000 back online and I can't find an Automatic Update feature -- it's been so long, I just don't remember. Does anyone know off the top of their head if AU was around back then, but part of another panel -- checked Administrative and didn't find anything. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 13:41:45 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:41:45 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? References: Message-ID: I'm having all kinds of trouble -- this system hasn't been used in years and so, it doesn't have the latest updates and trying to get them is frustrating. I keep getting, "you must install X update first..." when that's the update I'm trying to install! I was just thinking about letting MS do it via the update page. Susan H. > Hi Susan, > > If all else fails use this URL and save the shortcut. Microsoft update > will > also update Office and other MS programs as well as Windows. I'm not sure > Win 2000 is still being updated but you can easily find out with this URL. > It should select the correct location automatically as my machine went to > the Vista Update. > > > > http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/ > > > HTH > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harkins" > To: "DBA Tech List" > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:57 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? > > > I've put an old system with Windows 2000 back online and I can't find an > Automatic Update feature -- it's been so long, I just don't remember. Does > anyone know off the top of their head if AU was around back then, but part > of another panel -- checked Administrative and didn't find anything. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Sun Mar 15 11:14:36 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:14:36 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001b01c9a589$2278bb50$676a31f0$@net> Open Internet Explorer then go to the menu item Tools | Windows Update. Because this PC is so far behind on updates I'm sure you will be prompted to download new Windows Update ActiveX and MS Genuine Product checking add-ins and such. Do them and you'll eventually get to the real deal. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:42 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? I'm having all kinds of trouble -- this system hasn't been used in years and so, it doesn't have the latest updates and trying to get them is frustrating. I keep getting, "you must install X update first..." when that's the update I'm trying to install! I was just thinking about letting MS do it via the update page. Susan H. > Hi Susan, > > If all else fails use this URL and save the shortcut. Microsoft update > will > also update Office and other MS programs as well as Windows. I'm not sure > Win 2000 is still being updated but you can easily find out with this URL. > It should select the correct location automatically as my machine went to > the Vista Update. > > > > http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/ > > > HTH > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harkins" > To: "DBA Tech List" > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:57 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? > > > I've put an old system with Windows 2000 back online and I can't find an > Automatic Update feature -- it's been so long, I just don't remember. Does > anyone know off the top of their head if AU was around back then, but part > of another panel -- checked Administrative and didn't find anything. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 14:31:40 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:31:40 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? References: <001b01c9a589$2278bb50$676a31f0$@net> Message-ID: <529B3D02453244028DE2A722E9AF37CB@SusanOne> It took all day yesterday, but I do have Automatic Updating now on the Windows 2000 system, but AVG won't install. I thought AVG needed SP4, but evidentially it doesn't run on 2000 period. Bummer, if that's correct. Susan H. > Open Internet Explorer then go to the menu item Tools | Windows Update. > Because this PC is so far behind on updates I'm sure you will be prompted > to > download new Windows Update ActiveX and MS Genuine Product checking > add-ins > and such. Do them and you'll eventually get to the real deal. From john at winhaven.net Sun Mar 15 19:36:55 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:36:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? In-Reply-To: <529B3D02453244028DE2A722E9AF37CB@SusanOne> References: <001b01c9a589$2278bb50$676a31f0$@net> <529B3D02453244028DE2A722E9AF37CB@SusanOne> Message-ID: <025201c9a5cf$4f0aa200$ed1fe600$@net> Vipre will. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:32 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? It took all day yesterday, but I do have Automatic Updating now on the Windows 2000 system, but AVG won't install. I thought AVG needed SP4, but evidentially it doesn't run on 2000 period. Bummer, if that's correct. Susan H. > Open Internet Explorer then go to the menu item Tools | Windows Update. > Because this PC is so far behind on updates I'm sure you will be prompted > to > download new Windows Update ActiveX and MS Genuine Product checking > add-ins > and such. Do them and you'll eventually get to the real deal. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 19:40:20 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:40:20 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? References: <001b01c9a589$2278bb50$676a31f0$@net><529B3D02453244028DE2A722E9AF37CB@SusanOne> <025201c9a5cf$4f0aa200$ed1fe600$@net> Message-ID: <3E046E3AB681448B9E63B26762E4EA06@SusanOne> Is my license good for more than one system? Susan H. > Vipre will. > > It took all day yesterday, but I do have Automatic Updating now on the > Windows 2000 system, but AVG won't install. I thought AVG needed SP4, but > evidentially it doesn't run on 2000 period. Bummer, if that's correct. From drboz at pacbell.net Sun Mar 15 20:47:24 2009 From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:47:24 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? References: <001b01c9a589$2278bb50$676a31f0$@net><529B3D02453244028DE2A722E9AF37CB@SusanOne><025201c9a5cf$4f0aa200$ed1fe600$@net> <3E046E3AB681448B9E63B26762E4EA06@SusanOne> Message-ID: <012201c9a5d9$281a2c60$6501a8c0@Don> Vipre has a "special" home network deal.... good for as many computers as you have on your home network. Saves a good bit when you have many.... Don B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 -- no automatic updating? > Is my license good for more than one system? > > Susan H. > > >> Vipre will. >> >> It took all day yesterday, but I do have Automatic Updating now on the >> Windows 2000 system, but AVG won't install. I thought AVG needed SP4, but >> evidentially it doesn't run on 2000 period. Bummer, if that's correct. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 18:36:05 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:36:05 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] .NET Message-ID: <77560AC2E3D545E196F9175CFC0E3E1B@SusanOne> I'm running SQL Server Express and VB Express. I have the following versions of .NET: 2.0 SP 2 3.0 SP 2 3.5 SP1 Shouldn't I be able to uninstall the first two and still be Okay? I'm just curious why .NET doesn't take care of this automatically when you install a later version. Susan From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 18:47:36 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:47:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] What is this? Message-ID: <401638F54A744492A9F463E279B13270@SusanOne> Microsoft MSDN 2005 Express Edition - ENU This is showing up in Add or Remove Programs and it's absolutley huge -- as big as Office and SQL Server Express. When I click support it takes me to an only .NET Framework support site. MSDN is documentation, support, software downloads -- this isn't something I need installed on my local system is it? I don't recall downloading it, so I'm a little hesitate to uninstall it, but it's huge -- would love to get rid of it. Susan H. From bheid at sc.rr.com Mon Mar 16 19:14:43 2009 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:14:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] .NET In-Reply-To: <77560AC2E3D545E196F9175CFC0E3E1B@SusanOne> References: <77560AC2E3D545E196F9175CFC0E3E1B@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000001c9a695$5feb3dc0$1fc1b940$@rr.com> Because other programs that were compiled against the 1.1, 2.0, or 3.0 still need those frameworks installed to run. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:36 PM To: DBA Tech List Subject: [dba-Tech] .NET I'm running SQL Server Express and VB Express. I have the following versions of .NET: 2.0 SP 2 3.0 SP 2 3.5 SP1 Shouldn't I be able to uninstall the first two and still be Okay? I'm just curious why .NET doesn't take care of this automatically when you install a later version. Susan _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 19:20:25 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:20:25 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] .NET References: <77560AC2E3D545E196F9175CFC0E3E1B@SusanOne> <000001c9a695$5feb3dc0$1fc1b940$@rr.com> Message-ID: <0174AD548AD64E8FB2174832A63251D5@SusanOne> I don't have any custom programs -- just running SQL Server Express and VB Express, but example projects are in 2008. I have SQL Server Express and VB Express 2005 installed, but probably getting ready to uninstall them. I would be surprised to learn that they couldn't run on the latest version of .NET -- could that really be possible? Susan H. > Because other programs that were compiled against the 1.1, 2.0, or 3.0 > still > need those frameworks installed to run. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 19:23:54 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:23:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Macromedia MX won't uninstall Message-ID: Macromedia MX won't uninstall -- files are all still on my system. Any clues? I've run through the process several times -- it runs, says it's done, but everything's still there. Susan H. From rustykh at yahoo.com Tue Mar 17 09:50:18 2009 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Macromedia MX won't uninstall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <375799.82793.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I've seen some programs that won't finish their uninstall until you've rebooted. Have you rebooted since running the uninstall? Rusty ________________________________ From: Susan Harkins To: DBA Tech List Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:23:54 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Macromedia MX won't uninstall Macromedia MX won't uninstall -- files are all still on my system. Any clues? I've run through the process several times -- it runs, says it's done, but everything's still there. Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 09:56:10 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:56:10 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Macromedia MX won't uninstall References: <375799.82793.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <09E653D89E094FC089CCB51F883BA842@SusanOne> Yes, twice in fact. :( It's still there. I haven't had a chance to do much research, but haven't found anything helpful yet. Susan H. > I've seen some programs that won't finish their uninstall until you've > rebooted. Have you rebooted since running the uninstall? From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 10:47:03 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Open source trend -- seeking opinions and insight Message-ID: <7ED2B29983E24D0DA11310C3ADEBCCFE@SusanOne> I'm writing about open source -- in short, the trend and why -- seems money is the motivator, but once in place, orgs benefit from the flexibility and reduced dependency on vendors. If you're supporting open source, would you comment? I'd like to hear your views -- good and bad. Thanks! Susan H. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 13:14:11 2009 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:14:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] IBM to buy Sun? Message-ID: <29f585dd0903181114lff9443eye598a026b60cfbc8@mail.gmail.com> See: http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=14817 Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 14:22:15 2009 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:22:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Stupid USB stick Message-ID: <29f585dd0903181222y33073fc1jd456e695505fdda7@mail.gmail.com> I have a notebook with a 250GB USB hard disk, which until this morning was known as drive e:\. I also have a memory stick, which I decided to insert. It bumped the big disk to drive f:\ and claimed drive e:\ for itself. This screwed up many things. Even after removing the stick, I cannot make the big disk reclaim its rightful place as drive e:\. Is there a way to force a device to a specific drive letter and keep it there? Ideally I would like the big disk to remain as drive e:\ at all times and the memory stick to become drive f:\. If it matters, I'm running Vista with a service pack. Thanks, Arthur From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Mar 18 14:27:39 2009 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:27:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Stupid USB stick In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0903181222y33073fc1jd456e695505fdda7@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0903181222y33073fc1jd456e695505fdda7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BD705B45A99423F8BC28647DA887CAD@danwaters> Try this: Select Control Panel | Administrative Tools | Computer Management Then click on Disk Management in the left column under Storage. Then in the right side, right click one of the drives and select 'Change Drive Letter and Paths.' I think that's it! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:22 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Stupid USB stick I have a notebook with a 250GB USB hard disk, which until this morning was known as drive e:\. I also have a memory stick, which I decided to insert. It bumped the big disk to drive f:\ and claimed drive e:\ for itself. This screwed up many things. Even after removing the stick, I cannot make the big disk reclaim its rightful place as drive e:\. Is there a way to force a device to a specific drive letter and keep it there? Ideally I would like the big disk to remain as drive e:\ at all times and the memory stick to become drive f:\. If it matters, I'm running Vista with a service pack. Thanks, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 14:29:13 2009 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:29:13 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Stupid USB stick In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0903181222y33073fc1jd456e695505fdda7@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0903181222y33073fc1jd456e695505fdda7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm not at my Vista machine but in XP if you go into control panel / Adminstrative Tools / Computer Management / Storage / Disk Management you can assign any letter to any drive. I think that works in Vista too as I think I've done it for my CD Drives to get them out of the way of the USB Memory card reader drive letters. GK On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I have a notebook with a 250GB USB hard disk, which until this morning was > known as drive e:\. I also have a memory stick, which I decided to insert. > It bumped the big disk to drive f:\ and claimed drive e:\ for itself. This > screwed up many things. Even after removing the stick, I cannot make the big > disk reclaim its rightful place as drive e:\. > > Is there a way to force a device to a specific drive letter and keep it > there? Ideally I would like the big disk to remain as drive e:\ at all times > and the memory stick to become drive f:\. > > If it matters, I'm running Vista with a service pack. > > Thanks, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Mar 18 14:34:05 2009 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:34:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Stupid USB stick In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0903181222y33073fc1jd456e695505fdda7@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0903181222y33073fc1jd456e695505fdda7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C14CAD.1040501@earthlink.net> That used to happen to me with Iomega zip drives (RIP). Is it the peripheral that's dumb, or Winders? P. Arthur Fuller wrote: > I have a notebook with a 250GB USB hard disk, which until this morning was > known as drive e:\. I also have a memory stick, which I decided to insert. > It bumped the big disk to drive f:\ and claimed drive e:\ for itself. This > screwed up many things. Even after removing the stick, I cannot make the big > disk reclaim its rightful place as drive e:\. > > Is there a way to force a device to a specific drive letter and keep it > there? Ideally I would like the big disk to remain as drive e:\ at all times > and the memory stick to become drive f:\. > > If it matters, I'm running Vista with a service pack. > > Thanks, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/09 07:17:00 > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 14:48:24 2009 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:48:24 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Stupid USB stick In-Reply-To: <4BD705B45A99423F8BC28647DA887CAD@danwaters> References: <29f585dd0903181222y33073fc1jd456e695505fdda7@mail.gmail.com> <4BD705B45A99423F8BC28647DA887CAD@danwaters> Message-ID: <29f585dd0903181248u2e7b0b4dib31287b544c46392@mail.gmail.com> Thanks a ton. That did the trick. Yippee! Arthur On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Try this: > > Select Control Panel | Administrative Tools | Computer Management > > Then click on Disk Management in the left column under Storage. > > Then in the right side, right click one of the drives and select 'Change > Drive Letter and Paths.' > > I think that's it! > > Dan > From bheid at sc.rr.com Wed Mar 18 16:22:01 2009 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:22:01 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Stupid USB stick In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0903181248u2e7b0b4dib31287b544c46392@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0903181222y33073fc1jd456e695505fdda7@mail.gmail.com> <4BD705B45A99423F8BC28647DA887CAD@danwaters> <29f585dd0903181248u2e7b0b4dib31287b544c46392@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006801c9a80f$93f65520$bbe2ff60$@rr.com> Arthur, One thing I do is give my permanently mounted external drives a much lower (or higher depending on how you look at it) drive letter. My external drive is R: and my two DVD drives are s: and T:. This helps with the ever-changing drive letters of temp usb drives. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:48 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stupid USB stick Thanks a ton. That did the trick. Yippee! Arthur On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Try this: > > Select Control Panel | Administrative Tools | Computer Management > > Then click on Disk Management in the left column under Storage. > > Then in the right side, right click one of the drives and select 'Change > Drive Letter and Paths.' > > I think that's it! > > Dan > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Mar 19 19:55:20 2009 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:55:20 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Open source trend -- seeking opinions and insight In-Reply-To: <7ED2B29983E24D0DA11310C3ADEBCCFE@SusanOne> References: <7ED2B29983E24D0DA11310C3ADEBCCFE@SusanOne> Message-ID: Hi Susan: Just got back and have to leave tomorrow until Tuesday so a quick one... Yes, I do a bit of Open Source support. Ubuntu Linux is my favourite desktop OS, along with Sun Office, kmail(mail/contact/etc...), Samba (Linux to Windows network support), FireFox (internet) etc. I have created an ISO disk, using Ubuntu, along with a collection of Open Source and Linux supported packages that allows me to install a full system on any computer in an hour or less. It is great for clients who want to utilize their old computers and put a new system onboard with all the latest features. I can then sell computers on Craig's List, just give them away on FreeCycle or maybe offer them to a school. The latest version of Ubuntu is very refined, simple to use and if a client is having problems I can just remote-in and check things out. I think it is such a waste of good hardware, that's only problem is it just can not run the latest Windows OS. I think someone with a little more energy could make quite a profitable business out of refurbishing old computers in a similar style. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:47 AM To: DBA Tech List Subject: [dba-Tech] Open source trend -- seeking opinions and insight I'm writing about open source -- in short, the trend and why -- seems money is the motivator, but once in place, orgs benefit from the flexibility and reduced dependency on vendors. If you're supporting open source, would you comment? I'd like to hear your views -- good and bad. Thanks! Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 20:51:59 2009 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:51:59 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Open source trend -- seeking opinions and insight In-Reply-To: References: <7ED2B29983E24D0DA11310C3ADEBCCFE@SusanOne> Message-ID: <29f585dd0903191851h499e628bk82d56f6ede4f8de7@mail.gmail.com> Here here here for Ubuntu. I like it a lot too. Brain-dead simple to install, and it all fits on a memory stick so it's easy to bring to a client. Arthur From john at winhaven.net Thu Mar 19 23:28:01 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:28:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue Message-ID: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> Hi all, I've got an odd one to deal with. PC won't connect to a simple network. I scanned with 6 different AV/anti-malware scanners and three different root kit scanners. I cleaned it of any infections and unneeded software. I installed Vipre and SP firewall. I flushed the DNS and reset with netsh. I tested the wiring. I can get onto every network I've had it on except the one it is supposed to connect to. The (new Netgear) router dhcp serves 192.168.0.x but it won't serve this PC. The PC goes to a 169. address. I can connect this PC to another (Dlink) router which dhcp serves 192.168.0.x no problem. I can connect it to an SMC router that dhcp 192.168.2.x no problem. All of the routers are working fine with the other PCs in the nets. I can connect a notebook into this same Ethernet cable and get served. I switched patch cables. I checked for possible DNS redirectors. I'm beating my head - I must be missing something. Any ideas? From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Mar 20 09:56:19 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:56:19 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue In-Reply-To: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> References: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> Message-ID: Have you checked that the router isn't doing something clever with MAC addresses, and blocking it? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:28 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue Hi all, I've got an odd one to deal with. PC won't connect to a simple network. I scanned with 6 different AV/anti-malware scanners and three different root kit scanners. I cleaned it of any infections and unneeded software. I installed Vipre and SP firewall. I flushed the DNS and reset with netsh. I tested the wiring. I can get onto every network I've had it on except the one it is supposed to connect to. The (new Netgear) router dhcp serves 192.168.0.x but it won't serve this PC. The PC goes to a 169. address. I can connect this PC to another (Dlink) router which dhcp serves 192.168.0.x no problem. I can connect it to an SMC router that dhcp 192.168.2.x no problem. All of the routers are working fine with the other PCs in the nets. I can connect a notebook into this same Ethernet cable and get served. I switched patch cables. I checked for possible DNS redirectors. I'm beating my head - I must be missing something. Any ideas? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From john at winhaven.net Fri Mar 20 10:15:53 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:15:53 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue In-Reply-To: References: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> Message-ID: <010701c9a96e$c3076bf0$491643d0$@net> That's a good thought. I did check to make sure the router didn't have MAC Address filtering turned on. I just trusted that if it wasn't turned on it wasn't doing it, is there any way to check other than that? Does it sound like I'm getting paranoid? ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:56 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue Have you checked that the router isn't doing something clever with MAC addresses, and blocking it? From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Mar 20 10:29:05 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:29:05 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue In-Reply-To: <010701c9a96e$c3076bf0$491643d0$@net> References: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> <010701c9a96e$c3076bf0$491643d0$@net> Message-ID: Probably depends on the router. I'd check that there weren't any entries in the MAC address list, just in case the on/off switch wasn't working :-) Have you got another pc you can put that network card in to prove that's not the problem? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue That's a good thought. I did check to make sure the router didn't have MAC Address filtering turned on. I just trusted that if it wasn't turned on it wasn't doing it, is there any way to check other than that? Does it sound like I'm getting paranoid? ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:56 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue Have you checked that the router isn't doing something clever with MAC addresses, and blocking it? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From john at winhaven.net Fri Mar 20 10:46:23 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:46:23 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue In-Reply-To: References: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> <010701c9a96e$c3076bf0$491643d0$@net> Message-ID: <012a01c9a973$0583b2a0$108b17e0$@net> Good idea. I'll check the MAC list. Its an onboard NIC so I couldn't swap it but it works with everything else. I think I'll turn that one off and stick a new PCI NIC in and see if that solves the problem. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:29 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue Probably depends on the router. I'd check that there weren't any entries in the MAC address list, just in case the on/off switch wasn't working :-) Have you got another pc you can put that network card in to prove that's not the problem? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue That's a good thought. I did check to make sure the router didn't have MAC Address filtering turned on. I just trusted that if it wasn't turned on it wasn't doing it, is there any way to check other than that? Does it sound like I'm getting paranoid? ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:56 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue Have you checked that the router isn't doing something clever with MAC addresses, and blocking it? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 11:10:45 2009 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:10:45 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue In-Reply-To: <012a01c9a973$0583b2a0$108b17e0$@net> References: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> <010701c9a96e$c3076bf0$491643d0$@net> <012a01c9a973$0583b2a0$108b17e0$@net> Message-ID: Isn't the IP address set by the DHCP server? It's not a DNS thing. And can't Windows do that it'self? Perhaps this PC is trying to be it's own DHCP server instead of relying on the router? But I'm pretty much a novice at this network geeking stuff. GK On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, John Bartow wrote: > Good idea. I'll check the MAC list. > > Its an onboard NIC so I couldn't swap it but it works with everything else. > I think I'll turn that one off and stick a new PCI NIC in and see if that > solves the problem. > > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - > Slough > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:29 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue > > Probably depends on the router. I'd check that there weren't any entries in > the MAC address list, just in case the on/off switch wasn't working :-) > > Have you got another pc you can put that network card in to prove that's not > the problem? > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:16 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue > > That's a good thought. I did check to make sure the router didn't have MAC > Address filtering turned on. I just trusted that if it wasn't turned on it > wasn't doing it, is there any way to check other than that? Does it sound > like I'm getting paranoid? ;o) > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - > Slough > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:56 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue > > Have you checked that the router isn't doing something clever with MAC > addresses, and blocking it? > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and > privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than > the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in > error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from > your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Mar 20 11:14:10 2009 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:14:10 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue In-Reply-To: References: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> <010701c9a96e$c3076bf0$491643d0$@net> <012a01c9a973$0583b2a0$108b17e0$@net> Message-ID: That's a good point, is DHCP enabled on the router? :-P Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:11 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue Isn't the IP address set by the DHCP server? It's not a DNS thing. And can't Windows do that it'self? Perhaps this PC is trying to be it's own DHCP server instead of relying on the router? But I'm pretty much a novice at this network geeking stuff. GK On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, John Bartow wrote: > Good idea. I'll check the MAC list. > > Its an onboard NIC so I couldn't swap it but it works with everything else. > I think I'll turn that one off and stick a new PCI NIC in and see if > that solves the problem. > > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon > - Slough > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:29 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue > > Probably depends on the router. I'd check that there weren't any > entries in the MAC address list, just in case the on/off switch wasn't > working :-) > > Have you got another pc you can put that network card in to prove > that's not the problem? > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John > Bartow > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:16 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue > > That's a good thought. I did check to make sure the router didn't have > MAC Address filtering turned on. I just trusted that if it wasn't > turned on it wasn't doing it, is there any way to check other than > that? Does it sound like I'm getting paranoid? ;o) > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon > - Slough > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:56 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue > > Have you checked that the router isn't doing something clever with MAC > addresses, and blocking it? > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Fri Mar 20 11:50:37 2009 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:50:37 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue In-Reply-To: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> References: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> Message-ID: <669F2D9C560A4E3F9B4BD6D2402F6044@BPCS> John, You might try setting the pc to a fixed IP in the problem to something just below the lowest IP that the router will issue say if it's low is 192.0.50 then try 192.168.0.48 or something. If this gets you into the network then you know its a DHCP problem and since it will connect to other DHCP servers then the problem is probably in the router. HTH Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bartow" To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue Hi all, I've got an odd one to deal with. PC won't connect to a simple network. I scanned with 6 different AV/anti-malware scanners and three different root kit scanners. I cleaned it of any infections and unneeded software. I installed Vipre and SP firewall. I flushed the DNS and reset with netsh. I tested the wiring. I can get onto every network I've had it on except the one it is supposed to connect to. The (new Netgear) router dhcp serves 192.168.0.x but it won't serve this PC. The PC goes to a 169. address. I can connect this PC to another (Dlink) router which dhcp serves 192.168.0.x no problem. I can connect it to an SMC router that dhcp 192.168.2.x no problem. All of the routers are working fine with the other PCs in the nets. I can connect a notebook into this same Ethernet cable and get served. I switched patch cables. I checked for possible DNS redirectors. I'm beating my head - I must be missing something. Any ideas? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Fri Mar 20 12:08:06 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:08:06 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue In-Reply-To: <669F2D9C560A4E3F9B4BD6D2402F6044@BPCS> References: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> <669F2D9C560A4E3F9B4BD6D2402F6044@BPCS> Message-ID: <019c01c9a97e$7073a3d0$515aeb70$@net> Good idea. I'll try that. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:51 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue John, You might try setting the pc to a fixed IP in the problem to something just below the lowest IP that the router will issue say if it's low is 192.0.50 then try 192.168.0.48 or something. If this gets you into the network then you know its a DHCP problem and since it will connect to other DHCP servers then the problem is probably in the router. From john at winhaven.net Fri Mar 20 12:08:06 2009 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:08:06 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue In-Reply-To: References: <000601c9a914$41a6a490$c4f3edb0$@net> <010701c9a96e$c3076bf0$491643d0$@net> <012a01c9a973$0583b2a0$108b17e0$@net> Message-ID: <019d01c9a97e$70dee8c0$529cba40$@net> Yes, DHCP is on :o) This particular router serves a small office where there's 10-20 PCs connected. I actually configured the router but I can't say that no one has 'fooled' with it since - hence I should check the MAC list. I did check all the settings but I didn't turn the MAC filter on so that I check see the list if any existed. (My router will maintain the MAC filter list even if I turn it off.) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:14 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Puzzling network issue That's a good point, is DHCP enabled on the router? :-P From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 06:27:44 2009 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:27:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Evironment variables Message-ID: <29f585dd0903230427l66f4ac3fg3530f7c54846e2f7@mail.gmail.com> I can't seem to find the location in Vista where one can adjust the path. Anyone know where it lurks? TIA, Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 06:33:47 2009 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:33:47 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Evironment variables Message-ID: <29f585dd0903230433w44f4fe35s151dc5442683316b@mail.gmail.com> I can't seem to find the location in Vista where one can adjust the path. Anyone know where it lurks? TIA, Arthur From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Mar 23 06:55:35 2009 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:55:35 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Evironment variables In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0903230433w44f4fe35s151dc5442683316b@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0903230433w44f4fe35s151dc5442683316b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C80557.23645.114D6A70@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Control Panel - System - Advanced System Settings Click "Environment variables" on the "Advanced" tab -- Stuart On 23 Mar 2009 at 7:33, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I can't seem to find the location in Vista where one can adjust the path. > Anyone know where it lurks? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 08:16:47 2009 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:16:47 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Evironment variables In-Reply-To: <49C80557.23645.114D6A70@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <29f585dd0903230433w44f4fe35s151dc5442683316b@mail.gmail.com> <49C80557.23645.114D6A70@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <29f585dd0903230616m4b011baas2f301b9fffe39bb7@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Stuart. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Control Panel - System - Advanced System Settings > > Click "Environment variables" on the "Advanced" tab > > -- > Stuart > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 13:34:10 2009 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:34:10 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Quickly export Outlook e-mail items to Excel Message-ID: A reader used some code I provided in an article that exports Outlook items to an Excel workbook. However, he says that emails with a digital signature get skipped -- anyone else seen this? Susan H. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Mar 31 11:03:56 2009 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:03:56 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Confiker Scanner Message-ID: <463DC7D449D0422596C3C9A51A2779EC@HAL9005> Does anyone have a link to a good Conficker scanner? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Mar 31 11:04:22 2009 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:04:22 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop Advice Message-ID: <699FAB2327514BFFA430AC7742571519@HAL9005> Dear List(s): I need a new laptop like I need a third leg. But my current machine is about 5-6 years old - a 64 bit Compaq that runs slower than a stuck pig but is perfectly adequate for the occasions I need it - rare road trips and vacations - visits to clients. It also weighs about 200 pounds (feels that way after carrying it for about 6 minutes) and have batteries which will run it for a fabulous 60-70 minutes. Dell, bless their hearts, keep sending me teasers about Inspiron 15s. I really, really WANT one. So now they're offering two of them: This one is $377: My Components IntelR CeleronR 585 (1MB cache/2.16GHz/667Mhz FSB) Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic Edition SP1 Jet Black Microsoft Works 1Yr Ltd Warranty and Mail-In Service Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch display (1366x768) 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz 160GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD 8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card No Webcam Option 4-cell battery High Definition Audio 2.0 My Software & Accessories My Service Dell Remote Access, free basic service Dell Online Backup 2GB for 1 year My Accessories McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days Also Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader 9.0 Integrated 10/100 Network Card IntelR CELERONR Processor Windows VistaT Basic No ISP requested This one is $464: My Components IntelR PentiumR Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache) Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic Edition SP1 Jet Black Microsoft Works 1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch display (1366x768) 3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD 8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card No Webcam Option 6-cell battery High Definition Audio 2.0 My Software & Accessories WildTangent Games My Service Dell Remote Access, free basic service Dell Online Backup 2GB for 1 year My Accessories McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days Also Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader 9.0 Integrated 10/100 Network Card IntelR PentiumR Dual-Core Processor Windows VistaT Basic No ISP requested Free shipping. Question is about the Celeron vs the Duo Core. In the early days of Celeron I always avoided them because they were much slower and I needed the processing power. But maybe that's changed. Votes? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 11:29:01 2009 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:29:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice In-Reply-To: <699FAB2327514BFFA430AC7742571519@HAL9005> References: <699FAB2327514BFFA430AC7742571519@HAL9005> Message-ID: I agree with Drew. For $90 you get a dual core Pentium verses a single core Celeron. It's running at about the same clock speed but will be a lot faster. The Dual Core front side bus speed is 800 verses 667 for the celeron. That is the speed to the RAM I beleive. So every time you hit RAM you will be a bit more than 10% faster. And that happens often. And you get another gig of RAM. 2 verses 3 GB. Double the hard drive space at 320 verses 160GB. Seems like a no brainer for me. Option #2. I'd spend another $30 on the upgrade to Vista Home Premium. Here's the differences between Vista Versions http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx My opinion but you did ask ;-) GK On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > Dear List(s): > > > > I need a new laptop like I need a third leg. ?But my current machine is > about 5-6 years old - a 64 bit Compaq that runs slower than a stuck pig but > is perfectly adequate for the occasions I need it - rare road trips and > vacations - visits to clients. ?It also weighs about 200 pounds (feels that > way after carrying it for about 6 minutes) and have batteries which will run > it for a fabulous 60-70 minutes. > > Dell, bless their hearts, keep sending me teasers about Inspiron 15s. ?I > really, really WANT one. So now they're offering two of them: > > This one is $377: > > My Components > IntelR CeleronR 585 (1MB cache/2.16GHz/667Mhz FSB) > Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic Edition SP1 > Jet Black > Microsoft Works 1Yr Ltd Warranty and Mail-In > Service Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch display > (1366x768) 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at > 800MHz 160GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) > Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD > 8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) > Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card > No Webcam Option 21)> 4-cell battery High Definition Audio > 2.0 My Software & Accessories My Service > Dell Remote Access, free basic service Dell > Online Backup 2GB for 1 year My Accessories > McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days > Also Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader 9.0 > Integrated 10/100 Network Card IntelR CELERONR Processor Windows VistaT > Basic No ISP requested > > This one is $464: > My Components > IntelR PentiumR Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache) > Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic Edition SP1 > Jet Black > Microsoft Works > 1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis > Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch display > (1366x768) 3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at > 800MHz 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) > Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD > 8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) > Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card > No Webcam Option 21)> 6-cell battery High Definition Audio > 2.0 My Software & Accessories WildTangent > Games My Service Dell Remote Access, free > basic service Dell Online Backup 2GB for 1 > year My Accessories McAfee SecurityCenter > with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days 25)> Also Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader 9.0 Integrated 10/100 Network Card > IntelR PentiumR Dual-Core Processor Windows VistaT Basic No ISP requested > > Free shipping. ?Question is about the Celeron vs the Duo Core. ?In the early > days of Celeron I always avoided them because they were much slower and I > needed the processing power. But maybe that's changed. > > Votes? > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-OT mailing list > dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Mar 31 11:31:40 2009 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:31:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice In-Reply-To: References: <699FAB2327514BFFA430AC7742571519@HAL9005> Message-ID: Thanks. That's what I need to know. I've got Vista Ultimate on one box. Wonder if I can get away with loading it on a second box? OTOH, I have a secret source for that and O2K7 Pro - they cost me about $10 each. So I should probably just get a second one. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:29 AM To: Off Topic Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice I agree with Drew. For $90 you get a dual core Pentium verses a single core Celeron. It's running at about the same clock speed but will be a lot faster. The Dual Core front side bus speed is 800 verses 667 for the celeron. That is the speed to the RAM I beleive. So every time you hit RAM you will be a bit more than 10% faster. And that happens often. And you get another gig of RAM. 2 verses 3 GB. Double the hard drive space at 320 verses 160GB. Seems like a no brainer for me. Option #2. I'd spend another $30 on the upgrade to Vista Home Premium. Here's the differences between Vista Versions http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx My opinion but you did ask ;-) GK On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > Dear List(s): > > > > I need a new laptop like I need a third leg. ?But my current machine > is about 5-6 years old - a 64 bit Compaq that runs slower than a stuck > pig but is perfectly adequate for the occasions I need it - rare road > trips and vacations - visits to clients. ?It also weighs about 200 > pounds (feels that way after carrying it for about 6 minutes) and have > batteries which will run it for a fabulous 60-70 minutes. > > Dell, bless their hearts, keep sending me teasers about Inspiron 15s. ? > I really, really WANT one. So now they're offering two of them: > > This one is $377: > > My Components > IntelR CeleronR 585 (1MB cache/2.16GHz/667Mhz FSB) > Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic > Edition SP1 Jet Black > Microsoft Works > 1Yr Ltd Warranty and Mail-In Service > Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch display > (1366x768) 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 > at 800MHz 160GB SATA Hard Drive > (5400RPM) Intel Graphics Media > Accelerator X4500HD 8X CD / DVD Burner > (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Dell > Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card > No Webcam Option 4-cell battery > High Definition Audio 2.0 > My Software & Accessories My Service > Dell Remote Access, free basic service 813)> Dell Online Backup 2GB for 1 year 34)> My Accessories McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, > anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days Also > Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader 9.0 Integrated 10/100 Network Card > IntelR CELERONR Processor Windows VistaT Basic No ISP requested > > This one is $464: > My Components > IntelR PentiumR Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache) > Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic > Edition SP1 Jet Black > Microsoft Works > > 1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis > Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch display > (1366x768) 3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 > at 800MHz 320GB SATA Hard Drive > (5400RPM) Intel Graphics Media > Accelerator X4500HD 8X CD / DVD Burner > (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Dell > Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card > No Webcam Option 6-cell battery > High Definition Audio 2.0 > My Software & Accessories WildTangent > Games My Service Dell Remote Access, > free basic service Dell Online Backup > 2GB for 1 year My Accessories McAfee > SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days > Also Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader > 9.0 Integrated 10/100 Network Card IntelR PentiumR Dual-Core Processor > Windows VistaT Basic No ISP requested > > Free shipping. ?Question is about the Celeron vs the Duo Core. ?In the > early days of Celeron I always avoided them because they were much > slower and I needed the processing power. But maybe that's changed. > > Votes? > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-OT mailing list > dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Tue Mar 31 11:35:40 2009 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:35:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Confiker Scanner In-Reply-To: <463DC7D449D0422596C3C9A51A2779EC@HAL9005> References: <463DC7D449D0422596C3C9A51A2779EC@HAL9005> Message-ID: Hi Rocky, Several are listed in this article. http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=4053&tag=nl.e539 Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin" To: "'Off Topic'" ; "List" Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Confiker Scanner Does anyone have a link to a good Conficker scanner? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net Tue Mar 31 11:40:05 2009 From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:40:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice References: <699FAB2327514BFFA430AC7742571519@HAL9005> Message-ID: <024D73A06C284EE9B1B34CE06FE5EAE1@XPcomputer> Or you could stay with Windows XP -- Dell has that as an option as well on certain models. Carolyn Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Kjos" To: "Off Topic" Cc: "List" Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice I agree with Drew. For $90 you get a dual core Pentium verses a single core Celeron. It's running at about the same clock speed but will be a lot faster. The Dual Core front side bus speed is 800 verses 667 for the celeron. That is the speed to the RAM I beleive. So every time you hit RAM you will be a bit more than 10% faster. And that happens often. And you get another gig of RAM. 2 verses 3 GB. Double the hard drive space at 320 verses 160GB. Seems like a no brainer for me. Option #2. I'd spend another $30 on the upgrade to Vista Home Premium. Here's the differences between Vista Versions http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx My opinion but you did ask ;-) GK On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > Dear List(s): > > > > I need a new laptop like I need a third leg. But my current machine is > about 5-6 years old - a 64 bit Compaq that runs slower than a stuck pig > but > is perfectly adequate for the occasions I need it - rare road trips and > vacations - visits to clients. It also weighs about 200 pounds (feels that > way after carrying it for about 6 minutes) and have batteries which will > run > it for a fabulous 60-70 minutes. > > Dell, bless their hearts, keep sending me teasers about Inspiron 15s. I > really, really WANT one. So now they're offering two of them: > > This one is $377: > > My Components > IntelR CeleronR 585 (1MB cache/2.16GHz/667Mhz FSB) > Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic Edition > SP1 > Jet Black > Microsoft Works 1Yr Ltd Warranty and > Mail-In > Service Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch > display > (1366x768) 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at > 800MHz 160GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) > Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD > 8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R > Drive) > Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card > No Webcam Option > 21)> 4-cell battery High Definition Audio > 2.0 My Software & Accessories My Service > Dell Remote Access, free basic service > Dell > Online Backup 2GB for 1 year My > Accessories > McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days > Also Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader 9.0 > Integrated 10/100 Network Card IntelR CELERONR Processor Windows VistaT > Basic No ISP requested > > This one is $464: > My Components > IntelR PentiumR Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache) > Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic Edition > SP1 > Jet Black > Microsoft Works > 1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis > Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch display > (1366x768) 3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at > 800MHz 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) > Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD > 8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R > Drive) > Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card > No Webcam Option > 21)> 6-cell battery High Definition Audio > 2.0 My Software & Accessories WildTangent > Games My Service Dell Remote Access, free > basic service Dell Online Backup 2GB for > 1 > year My Accessories McAfee SecurityCenter > with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days > 25)> Also Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader 9.0 Integrated 10/100 Network > Card > IntelR PentiumR Dual-Core Processor Windows VistaT Basic No ISP requested > > Free shipping. Question is about the Celeron vs the Duo Core. In the early > days of Celeron I always avoided them because they were much slower and I > needed the processing power. But maybe that's changed. > > Votes? > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-OT mailing list > dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Mar 31 11:47:10 2009 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:47:10 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice In-Reply-To: <024D73A06C284EE9B1B34CE06FE5EAE1@XPcomputer> References: <699FAB2327514BFFA430AC7742571519@HAL9005> <024D73A06C284EE9B1B34CE06FE5EAE1@XPcomputer> Message-ID: I got some XP licenses as well. Much more comfortable with that. But I've got Vista on my secondary box and it ain't bad. Access 2007 is the worst thing they've come up with since Windows ME. But Vista I can live with and I'm thinking I'd better learn it while I've got some time. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Johnson Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:40 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice Or you could stay with Windows XP -- Dell has that as an option as well on certain models. Carolyn Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Kjos" To: "Off Topic" Cc: "List" Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice I agree with Drew. For $90 you get a dual core Pentium verses a single core Celeron. It's running at about the same clock speed but will be a lot faster. The Dual Core front side bus speed is 800 verses 667 for the celeron. That is the speed to the RAM I beleive. So every time you hit RAM you will be a bit more than 10% faster. And that happens often. And you get another gig of RAM. 2 verses 3 GB. Double the hard drive space at 320 verses 160GB. Seems like a no brainer for me. Option #2. I'd spend another $30 on the upgrade to Vista Home Premium. Here's the differences between Vista Versions http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx My opinion but you did ask ;-) GK On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > Dear List(s): > > > > I need a new laptop like I need a third leg. But my current machine is > about 5-6 years old - a 64 bit Compaq that runs slower than a stuck pig > but > is perfectly adequate for the occasions I need it - rare road trips and > vacations - visits to clients. It also weighs about 200 pounds (feels that > way after carrying it for about 6 minutes) and have batteries which will > run > it for a fabulous 60-70 minutes. > > Dell, bless their hearts, keep sending me teasers about Inspiron 15s. I > really, really WANT one. So now they're offering two of them: > > This one is $377: > > My Components > IntelR CeleronR 585 (1MB cache/2.16GHz/667Mhz FSB) > Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic Edition > SP1 > Jet Black > Microsoft Works 1Yr Ltd Warranty and > Mail-In > Service Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch > display > (1366x768) 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at > 800MHz 160GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) > Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD > 8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R > Drive) > Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card > No Webcam Option > 21)> 4-cell battery High Definition Audio > 2.0 My Software & Accessories My Service > Dell Remote Access, free basic service > Dell > Online Backup 2GB for 1 year My > Accessories > McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days > Also Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader 9.0 > Integrated 10/100 Network Card IntelR CELERONR Processor Windows VistaT > Basic No ISP requested > > This one is $464: > My Components > IntelR PentiumR Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache) > Genuine Windows VistaR Home Basic Edition > SP1 > Jet Black > Microsoft Works > 1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis > Glossy, widescreen 15.6 inch display > (1366x768) 3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at > 800MHz 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) > Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD > 8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R > Drive) > Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card > No Webcam Option > 21)> 6-cell battery High Definition Audio > 2.0 My Software & Accessories WildTangent > Games My Service Dell Remote Access, free > basic service Dell Online Backup 2GB for > 1 > year My Accessories McAfee SecurityCenter > with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days > 25)> Also Includes AdobeR AcrobatR Reader 9.0 Integrated 10/100 Network > Card > IntelR PentiumR Dual-Core Processor Windows VistaT Basic No ISP requested > > Free shipping. Question is about the Celeron vs the Duo Core. In the early > days of Celeron I always avoided them because they were much slower and I > needed the processing power. But maybe that's changed. > > Votes? > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-OT mailing list > dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From phil.rosenkranz at co.yakima.wa.us Tue Mar 31 11:52:16 2009 From: phil.rosenkranz at co.yakima.wa.us (Phil Rosenkranz) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:52:16 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice In-Reply-To: References: <699FAB2327514BFFA430AC7742571519@HAL9005><024D73A06C284EE9B1B34CE06FE5EAE1@XPcomputer> Message-ID: <2922DDFA04097D429C8E8E94767BADAD182D5B3F@ntx.co.yakima.wa.us> Ditto on Access 2007. A real piece of "work". Phil Rosenkranz?|?Program Coordinator/Applications Specialist | ?Yakima County Public Services? Direct?509.574.2250 | Toll Free 800.572.7354 | Fax 509.574.2301 -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:47 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice I got some XP licenses as well. Much more comfortable with that. But I've got Vista on my secondary box and it ain't bad. Access 2007 is the worst thing they've come up with since Windows ME. But Vista I can live with and I'm thinking I'd better learn it while I've got some time. Rocky From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Mar 31 12:12:31 2009 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:12:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Confiker Scanner In-Reply-To: References: <463DC7D449D0422596C3C9A51A2779EC@HAL9005> Message-ID: <7284505020CB410FBDE0E794EAF355FC@HAL9005> Thanks. Downloaded the Microsoft one and it's scanning the whole box now. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:36 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Confiker Scanner Hi Rocky, Several are listed in this article. http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=4053&tag=nl.e539 Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin" To: "'Off Topic'" ; "List" Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Confiker Scanner Does anyone have a link to a good Conficker scanner? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Mar 31 16:02:00 2009 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:02:00 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice In-Reply-To: References: <699FAB2327514BFFA430AC7742571519@HAL9005>, <024D73A06C284EE9B1B34CE06FE5EAE1@XPcomputer>, Message-ID: <49D31168.10036.2175C31F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I agree with Gary, except that I'd go for Business, not Home Premium, especially if you will occasionally need to connect to clients' networks ( and download NetSetMan to management your network settings in this event). I'd also put VirtualBox on it soo that can run XP/Access 2003 when you want. -- Stuart On 31 Mar 2009 at 9:47, Rocky Smolin wrote: > I got some XP licenses as well. Much more comfortable with that. But I've > got Vista on my secondary box and it ain't bad. Access 2007 is the worst > thing they've come up with since Windows ME. But Vista I can live with and > I'm thinking I'd better learn it while I've got some time. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Johnson > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:40 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice > > Or you could stay with Windows XP -- Dell has that as an option as well on > certain models. > > Carolyn Johnson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Kjos" > To: "Off Topic" > Cc: "List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Laptop Advice > > > I agree with Drew. For $90 you get a dual core Pentium verses a single > core Celeron. It's running at about the same clock speed but will be a > lot faster. The Dual Core front side bus speed is 800 verses 667 for > the celeron. That is the speed to the RAM I beleive. So every time you > hit RAM you will be a bit more than 10% faster. And that happens > often. And you get another gig of RAM. 2 verses 3 GB. Double the hard > drive space at 320 verses 160GB. > > Seems like a no brainer for me. Option #2. > > I'd spend another $30 on the upgrade to Vista Home Premium. > > Here's the differences between Vista Versions > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx > > My opinion but you did ask ;-) > > GK > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Rocky Smolin > wrote: > > > > Dear List(s): > > > > > > > > I need a new laptop like I need a third leg. But my current machine is > > about 5-6 years old - a 64 bit Compaq that runs slower than a stuck pig > > but > > is perfectly adequate for the occasions I need it - rare road trips and > > vacations - visits to clients. It also weighs about 200 pounds (feels that > > way after carrying it for about 6 minutes) and have batteries which will > > run > > it for a fabulous 60-70 minutes. > > > > Dell, bless their hearts, keep sending me teasers about Inspiron 15s. I > > really, really WANT one. So now they're offering two of them: