From tinanfields at torchlake.com Wed Aug 4 14:08:18 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:08:18 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error Message-ID: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> Hi All, I could use a little help figuring this one out. My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. Nothing worked. Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I would love some guidance! Best regards, T From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Aug 4 15:36:42 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 13:36:42 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error In-Reply-To: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <75A8B2200B55459089063E8EC2399117@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Tina: There are a number of possibilities. That can be cause by three events: 1. A bleeding app... Bad coding resulting in memory leaks which will flood the memory causing a crash. That would suggest a new set of driver(s) was/were installed. 2. Hardware error. They could be physical issues with older or cheaper equipment that tends to just wear out. There is some free hardware testing software and then there is SpinRite if it is a hard drive issue... a bad spot on the drive could cause all sorts of havoc. 3. A file transfer, update or installation process that was inadvertently halted in mid progress leaving a seriously corrupted file. The file, " svchost " is just the internal/external communications manager and is unlikely to be the problem though it is first to report it. Without seeing the equipment or knowing anything else I would suspect a hardware issue. A bleeding app or driver would not be running continuously unless it was video driver or was caused by serious core dll corruption as the errors would not otherwise be so persistent. Of course it could always be malware but it seems that your son-in-law is a logical fellow and appears to have plenty of security software. If this is helpful I could provide more details on pursuing a particular error... but this is enough for now. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:08 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error Hi All, I could use a little help figuring this one out. My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. Nothing worked. Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I would love some guidance! Best regards, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com Wed Aug 4 15:51:19 2010 From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 16:51:19 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error In-Reply-To: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Very odd. Off the top of my head I might suggest checking these: In Internet Options, oh the Security tab: Is the windows update site listed in the Restricted Sites? Is it listed in the Trusted Sites? On the 'Advanced' tab have you tried hitting the 'Reset' button which restores all the defaults? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:08 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error Hi All, I could use a little help figuring this one out. My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. Nothing worked. Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I would love some guidance! Best regards, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Aug 4 17:45:42 2010 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 17:45:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error In-Reply-To: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <000301cb3426$c4b92260$4e2b6720$@winhaven.net> If this is Windows 7 he can open task manager and right click on the svchost processes, one at a time, and then choose go to services. It will jump over to the service associated witht hat particular svchost process (there will be many). He can then write down each service and check through which one might be causing the problem. I would start with any third party apps and disable them using autoruns. If one of those isn't the culprit then I'd move on through various windows services, disabling the ones that can be disabled, etc. Basically he's going to have to do some forensic work. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:08 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error Hi All, I could use a little help figuring this one out. My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. Nothing worked. Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I would love some guidance! Best regards, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Aug 4 18:38:39 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 16:38:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error In-Reply-To: <000301cb3426$c4b92260$4e2b6720$@winhaven.net> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <000301cb3426$c4b92260$4e2b6720$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <3BEDE36031214CD3B6D5304B4E4B1813@creativesystemdesigns.com> That would work John but as you say it will take some time. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:46 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error If this is Windows 7 he can open task manager and right click on the svchost processes, one at a time, and then choose go to services. It will jump over to the service associated witht hat particular svchost process (there will be many). He can then write down each service and check through which one might be causing the problem. I would start with any third party apps and disable them using autoruns. If one of those isn't the culprit then I'd move on through various windows services, disabling the ones that can be disabled, etc. Basically he's going to have to do some forensic work. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:08 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error Hi All, I could use a little help figuring this one out. My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. Nothing worked. Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I would love some guidance! Best regards, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Aug 4 22:38:01 2010 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 22:38:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error In-Reply-To: <3BEDE36031214CD3B6D5304B4E4B1813@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <000301cb3426$c4b92260$4e2b6720$@winhaven.net> <3BEDE36031214CD3B6D5304B4E4B1813@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <006301cb344f$9b526480$d1f72d80$@winhaven.net> For sure -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:39 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error That would work John but as you say it will take some time. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:46 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error If this is Windows 7 he can open task manager and right click on the svchost processes, one at a time, and then choose go to services. It will jump over to the service associated witht hat particular svchost process (there will be many). He can then write down each service and check through which one might be causing the problem. I would start with any third party apps and disable them using autoruns. If one of those isn't the culprit then I'd move on through various windows services, disabling the ones that can be disabled, etc. Basically he's going to have to do some forensic work. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:08 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error Hi All, I could use a little help figuring this one out. My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. Nothing worked. Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I would love some guidance! Best regards, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 04:25:29 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:25:29 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser In-Reply-To: <6776D7D5E0484EFAA65FF796F99F2CE4@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005> <000b01cb2dde$c14f4b20$43ede160$@rr.com> <3E4E71B0BA35423E9F63FA285F791A78@creativesystemdesigns.com> <6776D7D5E0484EFAA65FF796F99F2CE4@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hello Jim I recently spent 90 minutes discussing the future of the desktop with my brother-in-law who works for Microsoft since he left school. I said that I believed that in 5 years only, we will see windows disappearing from the standard desktop and people moving to browser based desktops. He laughed and said no way. I was saying that for the average user that needs word processor, spreadsheet and browser, we will finally be able to get off the Windows treadmill. Do you think that my time frame is too short? Considering how fast Chrome is moving, it could happen. Paul, my BIL, mentioned video editing, and other heavy apps, and I responded that those can stay on Windows, but they represent only 5-10% of users, 90% nowadays just need a browser. Even accounts software is moving finally, to a Saas or as we called in in early 2000's, an Application Service Provider - haha, how old fashioned that sounds now, almost like 80's hair styles on ladies nowadays. So, am I completely wrong with my "The Windows desktop will be reduced by 50% in 5 years time comment? Mark On 31 July 2010 02:48, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Here is an interesting article link discussing the current world of the > browser and as related to the internet. > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/16/browser_wars/ > > According to the latest stats IE no longer holds the dominate place among > browsers: > > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp > > What does this mean? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Aug 5 05:44:22 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:44:22 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 2000 SMTP Service: 535 5.7.3 Authentication unsuccessful Message-ID: Hi all A client has a Windows 2000 server running the SMTP Service of Windows using basic authentication. No Windows domain, just Workgroup. Perhaps after applying some Windows security updates, all of the sudden existing user accounts cannot authenticate. However, if I create a new user it authenticates right away. Though not running Exchange, this is very much what is described here: http://www.apijunkie.com/APIJunkie/blog/post.aspx?id=a9d57d96-7443-49ff-99bb-7cb4435f62f3 For historical reasons, one of the old accounts which uses the SMTP Service is the Administrator, which I don't think is wise to delete and recreate if at all possible. Any ideas how I can bring this account to authenticate again? /gustav From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Aug 5 05:58:51 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:58:51 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser In-Reply-To: References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005>, <6776D7D5E0484EFAA65FF796F99F2CE4@creativesystemdesigns.com>, Message-ID: <4C5A996B.27570.1DD7557@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Look at the millions of workstations in offices around the world where management just want their staff to do their jobs with word processors, spreadsheets, databases and internal email. I certainly don't see that changing too much in the next 5 years - at least, not in my part of the world. -- Stuart On 5 Aug 2010 at 10:25, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Jim > > I recently spent 90 minutes discussing the future of the desktop with > my brother-in-law who works for Microsoft since he left school. > > I said that I believed that in 5 years only, we will see windows > disappearing from the standard desktop and people moving to browser > based desktops. > > He laughed and said no way. I was saying that for the average user > that needs word processor, spreadsheet and browser, we will finally be > able to get off the Windows treadmill. > > Do you think that my time frame is too short? Considering how fast > Chrome is moving, it could happen. > > Paul, my BIL, mentioned video editing, and other heavy apps, and I > responded that those can stay on Windows, but they represent only > 5-10% of users, 90% nowadays just need a browser. Even accounts > software is moving finally, to a Saas or as we called in in early > 2000's, an Application Service Provider - haha, how old fashioned that > sounds now, almost like 80's hair styles on ladies nowadays. > > So, am I completely wrong with my "The Windows desktop will be reduced > by 50% in 5 years time comment? > > Mark > > > > On 31 July 2010 02:48, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Here is an interesting article link discussing the current world of > > the browser and as related to the internet. > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/16/browser_wars/ > > > > According to the latest stats IE no longer holds the dominate place > > among browsers: > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp > > > > What does this mean? > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 08:36:04 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:36:04 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser In-Reply-To: <4C5A996B.27570.1DD7557@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005> <6776D7D5E0484EFAA65FF796F99F2CE4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C5A996B.27570.1DD7557@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Hello Stuart, Are you saying that you agree or disagree with my proposition? I agree that there are millions of offices that just want basic office functionality, but none want the hassle of a local onsite File Server and Exchange Server. Witness Janet Erbach's recent experiences with Windows SBS. I would love to see all the 10 - 20 - 50 user networks switch to a skybox type storage and online WP, Spreadsheet and email. I love gmail for domains, but unfortunately google docs are not there yet. The new Office Live (have you all seen that -free online MS Office no installation required) is an attractive proposition. Thanks Mark On 5 August 2010 11:58, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Look at the millions of workstations in offices around the world where > management just want > their staff to do their jobs with word processors, spreadsheets, databases > and internal email. > > I certainly don't see that changing too much in the next 5 years - at > least, not in my part of the > world. > > -- > Stuart > > > On 5 Aug 2010 at 10:25, Mark Breen wrote: > > > Hello Jim > > > > I recently spent 90 minutes discussing the future of the desktop with > > my brother-in-law who works for Microsoft since he left school. > > > > I said that I believed that in 5 years only, we will see windows > > disappearing from the standard desktop and people moving to browser > > based desktops. > > > > He laughed and said no way. I was saying that for the average user > > that needs word processor, spreadsheet and browser, we will finally be > > able to get off the Windows treadmill. > > > > Do you think that my time frame is too short? Considering how fast > > Chrome is moving, it could happen. > > > > Paul, my BIL, mentioned video editing, and other heavy apps, and I > > responded that those can stay on Windows, but they represent only > > 5-10% of users, 90% nowadays just need a browser. Even accounts > > software is moving finally, to a Saas or as we called in in early > > 2000's, an Application Service Provider - haha, how old fashioned that > > sounds now, almost like 80's hair styles on ladies nowadays. > > > > So, am I completely wrong with my "The Windows desktop will be reduced > > by 50% in 5 years time comment? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > On 31 July 2010 02:48, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > Here is an interesting article link discussing the current world of > > > the browser and as related to the internet. > > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/16/browser_wars/ > > > > > > According to the latest stats IE no longer holds the dominate place > > > among browsers: > > > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp > > > > > > What does this mean? > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Aug 5 09:01:39 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:01:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error In-Reply-To: <000301cb3426$c4b92260$4e2b6720$@winhaven.net> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <000301cb3426$c4b92260$4e2b6720$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <4C5AC443.2090007@torchlake.com> Hi John, It's Windows XP Pro - but I have installed Sysinternals procexp.exe, so we can do the same procedure of checking each service to see who is making the mischief. Thanks, T John Bartow wrote: > If this is Windows 7 he can open task manager and right click on the svchost > processes, one at a time, and then choose go to services. It will jump over > to the service associated witht hat particular svchost process (there will > be many). He can then write down each service and check through which one > might be causing the problem. I would start with any third party apps and > disable them using autoruns. If one of those isn't the culprit then I'd move > on through various windows services, disabling the ones that can be > disabled, etc. Basically he's going to have to do some forensic work. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:08 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error > > Hi All, > > I could use a little help figuring this one out. > > My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be > booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe > application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced > memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I > have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some > software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, something > like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the > problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit application > (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling > the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some > corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and > nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the > postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted > Windows update, and the solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows > update and rebooting. > > When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could > not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the page. > This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I > launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows > update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. Nothing > worked. > > Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home office, > he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get this > figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of his > IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - they've > uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, they've > updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it > popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. > > Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I would > love some guidance! > > Best regards, > T > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Aug 5 09:04:07 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:04:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error In-Reply-To: <75A8B2200B55459089063E8EC2399117@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <75A8B2200B55459089063E8EC2399117@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4C5AC4D7.9060107@torchlake.com> Hi Jim, Yeah, I wish I'd thought to bring Spin-Rite with me. Maybe I'll do that today. One real likelihood is, apparently an incomplete Windows update - as in Internet goes down during the transfer. We had some storms out here recently that did interrupt our service, so it's a real possibility. Thanks, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina: > > There are a number of possibilities. That can be cause by three events: > > 1. A bleeding app... Bad coding resulting in memory leaks which will flood > the memory causing a crash. That would suggest a new set of driver(s) > was/were installed. > 2. Hardware error. They could be physical issues with older or cheaper > equipment that tends to just wear out. There is some free hardware testing > software and then there is SpinRite if it is a hard drive issue... a bad > spot on the drive could cause all sorts of havoc. > 3. A file transfer, update or installation process that was inadvertently > halted in mid progress leaving a seriously corrupted file. > > The file, " svchost " is just the internal/external communications manager > and is unlikely to be the problem though it is first to report it. > > Without seeing the equipment or knowing anything else I would suspect a > hardware issue. A bleeding app or driver would not be running continuously > unless it was video driver or was caused by serious core dll corruption as > the errors would not otherwise be so persistent. > > Of course it could always be malware but it seems that your son-in-law is a > logical fellow and appears to have plenty of security software. > > If this is helpful I could provide more details on pursuing a particular > error... but this is enough for now. > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:08 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error > > Hi All, > > I could use a little help figuring this one out. > > My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be > booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe > application error" usually with something like "instruction at > referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It > seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty > update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion > process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole > system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a > disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, > and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, > I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't > get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function > because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it > might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the > solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. > > When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I > could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display > the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on > the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried > Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search > results, too. Nothing worked. > > Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home > office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I > can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to > make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his > computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and > reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they > thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were > getting ready to sign off. > > Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I > would love some guidance! > > Best regards, > T > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Aug 5 09:05:37 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:05:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error In-Reply-To: References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4C5AC531.8070005@torchlake.com> Hi Lambert, Ah! I didn't think to check whether the Windows update site was listed there. Thanks, I'll do that. And, no, I haven't tried the 'Reset' button. Thanks, T Heenan, Lambert wrote: > Very odd. > > Off the top of my head I might suggest checking these: > > In Internet Options, oh the Security tab: > > Is the windows update site listed in the Restricted Sites? > Is it listed in the Trusted Sites? > > On the 'Advanced' tab have you tried hitting the 'Reset' button which restores all the defaults? > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:08 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error > > Hi All, > > I could use a little help figuring this one out. > > My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the solution coul! > d be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. > > When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. Nothing worked. > > Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. > > Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I would love some guidance! > > Best regards, > T > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 12:07:40 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:07:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com><000301cb3426$c4b92260$4e2b6720$@winhaven.net> <4C5AC443.2090007@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <780CAF1468564840BA3F4BE94112BF15@salvationomc4p> Tina, I had a similar situation about 6 weeks ago. I ran Spybot in Safe mode and it took care of it. Of couse, it was just a few weeks later when I had the big crash and had to wipe the hd and start over. I couldn't even do it -- could not recover Windows. The guy that did take care of it said Windows was trashed, and we all know that's not so uncommon -- been running that particular system for 10 years, so I guess it was inevitable. Susan H. ]> Hi John, > > It's Windows XP Pro - but I have installed Sysinternals procexp.exe, so > we can do the same procedure of checking each service to see who is > making the mischief. > > Thanks, > T > > John Bartow wrote: >> If this is Windows 7 he can open task manager and right click on the >> svchost >> processes, one at a time, and then choose go to services. It will jump >> over >> to the service associated witht hat particular svchost process (there >> will >> be many). He can then write down each service and check through which one >> might be causing the problem. I would start with any third party apps and >> disable them using autoruns. If one of those isn't the culprit then I'd >> move >> on through various windows services, disabling the ones that can be >> disabled, etc. Basically he's going to have to do some forensic work. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris >> Fields >> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:08 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error >> >> Hi All, >> >> I could use a little help figuring this one out. >> >> My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be >> booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe >> application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced >> memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I >> have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some >> software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, >> something >> like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the >> problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit >> application >> (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling >> the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some >> corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and >> nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the >> postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted >> Windows update, and the solution could be as easy as doing a manual >> Windows >> update and rebooting. >> >> When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could >> not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the >> page. >> This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I >> launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows >> update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. >> Nothing >> worked. >> >> Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home >> office, >> he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get >> this >> figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of >> his >> IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - >> they've >> uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, >> they've >> updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it >> popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. >> >> Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I >> would >> love some guidance! From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Aug 5 09:19:58 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:19:58 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error In-Reply-To: <780CAF1468564840BA3F4BE94112BF15@salvationomc4p> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com><000301cb3426$c4b92260$4e2b6720$@winhaven.net><4C5AC443.2090007@torchlake.com> <780CAF1468564840BA3F4BE94112BF15@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <4C5AC88E.5020400@torchlake.com> Hi Susan, Yeah, the possibility that this particular Windows setup is trashed is very real - scary. Thanks, T Susan Harkins wrote: > Tina, I had a similar situation about 6 weeks ago. I ran Spybot in Safe mode > and it took care of it. Of couse, it was just a few weeks later when I had > the big crash and had to wipe the hd and start over. I couldn't even do > it -- could not recover Windows. The guy that did take care of it said > Windows was trashed, and we all know that's not so uncommon -- been running > that particular system for 10 years, so I guess it was inevitable. > > Susan H. > ]> Hi John, > >> It's Windows XP Pro - but I have installed Sysinternals procexp.exe, so >> we can do the same procedure of checking each service to see who is >> making the mischief. >> >> Thanks, >> T >> >> John Bartow wrote: >> >>> If this is Windows 7 he can open task manager and right click on the >>> svchost >>> processes, one at a time, and then choose go to services. It will jump >>> over >>> to the service associated witht hat particular svchost process (there >>> will >>> be many). He can then write down each service and check through which one >>> might be causing the problem. I would start with any third party apps and >>> disable them using autoruns. If one of those isn't the culprit then I'd >>> move >>> on through various windows services, disabling the ones that can be >>> disabled, etc. Basically he's going to have to do some forensic work. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris >>> Fields >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:08 PM >>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I could use a little help figuring this one out. >>> >>> My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be >>> booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe >>> application error" usually with something like "instruction at referenced >>> memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It seems to me I >>> have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty update of some >>> software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion process, >>> something >>> like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole system, and in my case the >>> problem was solved by a reinstall and a disabling of the culprit >>> application >>> (it was hogging my CPU resources, and I really didn't need it). Googling >>> the svchost.exe error postings, I find that it is likely caused by some >>> corrupted dll file that didn't get to finish whatever it was doing, and >>> nothing else could function because of that bottleneck. Several of the >>> postings suggested that it might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted >>> Windows update, and the solution could be as easy as doing a manual >>> Windows >>> update and rebooting. >>> >>> When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I could >>> not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display the >>> page. >>> This was true whether I used the Windows update command on the menu or I >>> launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried Googling the Windows >>> update and clicking the link from the Google search results, too. >>> Nothing >>> worked. >>> >>> Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home >>> office, >>> he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I can get >>> this >>> figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to make use of >>> his >>> IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his computer - >>> they've >>> uninstalled all his malware protection and reinstalled fresh copies, >>> they've >>> updated his browser to IE8, they thought they had it fixed, and then it >>> popped up again, while they were getting ready to sign off. >>> >>> Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I >>> would >>> love some guidance! >>> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Aug 5 15:36:17 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:36:17 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser In-Reply-To: References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005> <000b01cb2dde$c14f4b20$43ede160$@rr.com> <3E4E71B0BA35423E9F63FA285F791A78@creativesystemdesigns.com> <6776D7D5E0484EFAA65FF796F99F2CE4@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <5CB4B7DEEDC642E2A27C6A24CA285BF0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Mark: Those are a lot of interesting questions. I can not speak to what will be but I can speak to what the trends are, whether the trends with continue in the current direction and at current pace is for someone with a better crystal ball than I have but the trends now are as follows: 1. A desktop is less important for deploying a standard set of business applications than it was 10 years ago and I suspect that trend will continue. Microsoft would have not deployed its Office products to the web if it did not feel it had to. 2. With that particular trend the OS becomes less important and now there are a number of excellent OSs emerging on the market. Android and Ubuntu Linux (and even MAC-BSD) have become the standard bearers of this new diversity. I.E. Microsoft has had to drop its desktops, on new computers to less than $50.00...it has become less profitable and even computers like Dell/IBM/HP/Sony/Fujitsu are starting to offer desktop choices like Android and Ubuntu Linux, both Open Source products. 3. Big companies like to be able to consolidate the business and the simplest way to do it is to deploy their company specific applications to the web. Now there is less reason to upgrade either remote hardware or software, it requires less local support, better control and distribution, updates in real time and centralized software upgrading, security, centralized analysis and backups. There is no downside to this model... so who cares what desktop is their attitude. (Upgrading sites is my business and I can see it moving that way virtually 100 percent.) 4. The proliferation of iPads, iPhone and Cell phones with desktops are out selling desktop type computer 3 to 1 and it been that way for over 3 years and shows no signing of slowing down. Microsoft has not been able to produce a creditable product to fill in that niche and by the time it does the market will be set and saturated. 5. The Backends of most of these new systems are Linux based. Over 80 percent at last count and even Microsoft's excellent efforts in producing more and better server products has apparently plateaued over the last 5 years. Linux based servers are so strong and reliable in this area, that big companies have stayed with what they know and trust...in addition there are so many excellent Linux/Unix based tools for managing large Networks... This has all lent itself toward web based server support. 6. Companies have been less inclined to support a particular proprietary OS and related products as a mistake in selection as related to scalability can be very expensive. Web based applications scale easily but desktop products do not or end up costing. Relate the cost of 1000 new Windows desktops to that of a new Website deployed to 1000 clients with a dozen different desktop and browser variants... no challenge. 7. Microsoft has continued to cut itself short when it comes to the internet. First with not embracing the new standards, like HTML5 and building it own proprietary browser which ends up costing in development time and money to the business world. MS's browser has move from it 70 percent of the market to 30 percent of the market share and it continues to drop. Rather than try to make their browser product more flexible, they have added a product like SilverLight (too little and too late as far as I can see) and are now attempting to bind their browser to the Windows desktop. I.e. having the browser graphics connected to local hardware. Microsoft is no longer in a command position, in the computer world and it will have to accept that reality. 8. As mentioned before Microsoft is cutting itself off from the Internet market by either being slow to follow market trends or stubbornly sticking to its own proprietary products. This all will in turn results is less desktop sales and more over-all browser implementation driven by very nimble and aggressive competition. To that end there are some positive signs from Microsoft as they have been actively pursuing Open Source projects which should keep them connected to the pulse computing trends. As an aside, about graphics products there are a few misconceptions. The smaller Adobe graphics products are deployed to the desktop and mostly Windows. As soon as you step up to the large graphic system like ArcInfo, InterGraph, AutoDesk, Professional StudioMax, XSI, and the Architectural, Engineering and Animation graphics programs you are in the UNIX and Linux world. In addition, the only thing that is holding back the internet, from completely swamping all products is its old and relatively slow infrastructure...but it will not be like that forever...fiber optic cabling is on its way. I have said much more than I had initially planned but once started it was hard to leave out the specific point and not explain that point. (I will also be using this as part of a speech I will be giving to a group of investmentor in a couple of weeks.) Regards Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Aug 5 18:37:19 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:37:19 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The game Foldit In-Reply-To: <5CB4B7DEEDC642E2A27C6A24CA285BF0@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005> <000b01cb2dde$c14f4b20$43ede160$@rr.com> <3E4E71B0BA35423E9F63FA285F791A78@creativesystemdesigns.com> <6776D7D5E0484EFAA65FF796F99F2CE4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <5CB4B7DEEDC642E2A27C6A24CA285BF0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <3977D81ACF8E4C369218E7FB2D22A607@creativesystemdesigns.com> Has anyone heard of the game Foldit? If you have a little time to waste and you want to do something that could be important as well this might be the challenge for you. http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/08/uw_game_proves_humans_can_beat_supe rcomputers_in_folding_proteins.html The game runs of your desktop but has version in Linux, Apple and Windows and can be entered/accessed via the following link. http://fold.it/portal/ Jim From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Aug 5 19:30:52 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:30:52 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] The game Foldit In-Reply-To: <3977D81ACF8E4C369218E7FB2D22A607@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005>, <5CB4B7DEEDC642E2A27C6A24CA285BF0@creativesystemdesigns.com>, <3977D81ACF8E4C369218E7FB2D22A607@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4C5B57BC.27842.4C4E190@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> It's mentioned today on The Register. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/05/foldit_victor/ On 5 Aug 2010 at 16:37, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Has anyone heard of the game Foldit? If you have a little time to > waste and you want to do something that could be important as well > this might be the challenge for you. > > http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/08/uw_game_proves_humans_can_bea > t_supe rcomputers_in_folding_proteins.html > > The game runs of your desktop but has version in Linux, Apple and > Windows and can be entered/accessed via the following link. > > http://fold.it/portal/ > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Aug 5 19:39:17 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:39:17 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser In-Reply-To: References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005>, <4C5A996B.27570.1DD7557@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, Message-ID: <4C5B59B5.18686.4CC97B5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I'm disagreeing with you. :-) Those 10 - 50 user networks are better served with an office suite (MS Office/Open Office) on each workstation, a basic file server and a simple mail server (Mercury Mail Server??). There are many parts of the world where internet access is too slow/expensive/unreliable (select any one, two or all three) to make cloud based computing a viable option. -- Stuart On 5 Aug 2010 at 14:36, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Stuart, > > Are you saying that you agree or disagree with my proposition? > > I agree that there are millions of offices that just want basic office > functionality, but none want the hassle of a local onsite File Server > and Exchange Server. Witness Janet Erbach's recent experiences with > Windows SBS. > > I would love to see all the 10 - 20 - 50 user networks switch to a > skybox type storage and online WP, Spreadsheet and email. I love > gmail for domains, but unfortunately google docs are not there yet. > The new Office Live (have you all seen that -free online MS Office no > installation required) is an attractive proposition. > > Thanks > > Mark > > > > > On 5 August 2010 11:58, Stuart McLachlan > wrote: > > > Look at the millions of workstations in offices around the world > > where management just want their staff to do their jobs with word > > processors, spreadsheets, databases and internal email. > > > > I certainly don't see that changing too much in the next 5 years - > > at least, not in my part of the world. > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > > > On 5 Aug 2010 at 10:25, Mark Breen wrote: > > > > > Hello Jim > > > > > > I recently spent 90 minutes discussing the future of the desktop > > > with my brother-in-law who works for Microsoft since he left > > > school. > > > > > > I said that I believed that in 5 years only, we will see windows > > > disappearing from the standard desktop and people moving to > > > browser based desktops. > > > > > > He laughed and said no way. I was saying that for the average > > > user that needs word processor, spreadsheet and browser, we will > > > finally be able to get off the Windows treadmill. > > > > > > Do you think that my time frame is too short? Considering how > > > fast Chrome is moving, it could happen. > > > > > > Paul, my BIL, mentioned video editing, and other heavy apps, and I > > > responded that those can stay on Windows, but they represent only > > > 5-10% of users, 90% nowadays just need a browser. Even accounts > > > software is moving finally, to a Saas or as we called in in early > > > 2000's, an Application Service Provider - haha, how old fashioned > > > that sounds now, almost like 80's hair styles on ladies nowadays. > > > > > > So, am I completely wrong with my "The Windows desktop will be > > > reduced by 50% in 5 years time comment? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31 July 2010 02:48, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > > > Here is an interesting article link discussing the current world > > > > of the browser and as related to the internet. > > > > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/16/browser_wars/ > > > > > > > > According to the latest stats IE no longer holds the dominate > > > > place among browsers: > > > > > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp > > > > > > > > What does this mean? > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Aug 5 20:04:23 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 18:04:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The game Foldit In-Reply-To: <4C5B57BC.27842.4C4E190@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005> <5CB4B7DEEDC642E2A27C6A24CA285BF0@creativesystemdesigns.com> <3977D81ACF8E4C369218E7FB2D22A607@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C5B57BC.27842.4C4E190@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <91D0A93AEEB649599836821C685DB243@creativesystemdesigns.com> The program/game has been around for a while I understand. I heard it mentioned a month or so ago but never thought about it and now it seem to have been publically announced and seems to be interesting. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:31 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The game Foldit It's mentioned today on The Register. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/05/foldit_victor/ On 5 Aug 2010 at 16:37, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Has anyone heard of the game Foldit? If you have a little time to > waste and you want to do something that could be important as well > this might be the challenge for you. > > http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/08/uw_game_proves_humans_can_bea > t_supe rcomputers_in_folding_proteins.html > > The game runs of your desktop but has version in Linux, Apple and > Windows and can be entered/accessed via the following link. > > http://fold.it/portal/ > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Aug 5 20:32:41 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 18:32:41 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser In-Reply-To: <4C5B59B5.18686.4CC97B5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005> <4C5A996B.27570.1DD7557@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C5B59B5.18686.4CC97B5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <83D2FE1391B24E8D8670856CD9E51C1D@creativesystemdesigns.com> Actually, where there are 10 to 50 users, where internet and resources are very limited, a Linux based alternative makes far more sense. Ubuntu desktop, Debian server, OpenOffice, Zimbra mail server (there are a few to choose from) Thunderbird mail client...Chrome, FireBird etc etc... Ubuntu was initially created to be able to utilize old equipment in areas where limited resources were available. All the .Net languages are available on Linux, through frameworks like Mono and Grasshopper and I understand there is even PowerBasic for Linux. Then there in Intranet web application which are very popular. (Did a client's 10 uesr site around the end of last year.) But in North America, Europe and much of the far east internet is fast and reliable. In summary, it all depends where you are doing a majority of your business. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:39 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser I'm disagreeing with you. :-) Those 10 - 50 user networks are better served with an office suite (MS Office/Open Office) on each workstation, a basic file server and a simple mail server (Mercury Mail Server??). There are many parts of the world where internet access is too slow/expensive/unreliable (select any one, two or all three) to make cloud based computing a viable option. -- Stuart On 5 Aug 2010 at 14:36, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Stuart, > > Are you saying that you agree or disagree with my proposition? > > I agree that there are millions of offices that just want basic office > functionality, but none want the hassle of a local onsite File Server > and Exchange Server. Witness Janet Erbach's recent experiences with > Windows SBS. > > I would love to see all the 10 - 20 - 50 user networks switch to a > skybox type storage and online WP, Spreadsheet and email. I love > gmail for domains, but unfortunately google docs are not there yet. > The new Office Live (have you all seen that -free online MS Office no > installation required) is an attractive proposition. > > Thanks > > Mark > > > > > On 5 August 2010 11:58, Stuart McLachlan > wrote: > > > Look at the millions of workstations in offices around the world > > where management just want their staff to do their jobs with word > > processors, spreadsheets, databases and internal email. > > > > I certainly don't see that changing too much in the next 5 years - > > at least, not in my part of the world. > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > > > On 5 Aug 2010 at 10:25, Mark Breen wrote: > > > > > Hello Jim > > > > > > I recently spent 90 minutes discussing the future of the desktop > > > with my brother-in-law who works for Microsoft since he left > > > school. > > > > > > I said that I believed that in 5 years only, we will see windows > > > disappearing from the standard desktop and people moving to > > > browser based desktops. > > > > > > He laughed and said no way. I was saying that for the average > > > user that needs word processor, spreadsheet and browser, we will > > > finally be able to get off the Windows treadmill. > > > > > > Do you think that my time frame is too short? Considering how > > > fast Chrome is moving, it could happen. > > > > > > Paul, my BIL, mentioned video editing, and other heavy apps, and I > > > responded that those can stay on Windows, but they represent only > > > 5-10% of users, 90% nowadays just need a browser. Even accounts > > > software is moving finally, to a Saas or as we called in in early > > > 2000's, an Application Service Provider - haha, how old fashioned > > > that sounds now, almost like 80's hair styles on ladies nowadays. > > > > > > So, am I completely wrong with my "The Windows desktop will be > > > reduced by 50% in 5 years time comment? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31 July 2010 02:48, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > > > Here is an interesting article link discussing the current world > > > > of the browser and as related to the internet. > > > > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/16/browser_wars/ > > > > > > > > According to the latest stats IE no longer holds the dominate > > > > place among browsers: > > > > > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp > > > > > > > > What does this mean? > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Aug 5 21:22:19 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:22:19 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser In-Reply-To: <4C5B59B5.18686.4CC97B5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <056EF16A2C384818A4FFD7310FE0447B@HAL9005> <4C5A996B.27570.1DD7557@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C5B59B5.18686.4CC97B5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: As for cloud based systems I have yet to see a real reason as there are better alternatives and the last one I played I broke. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:39 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser I'm disagreeing with you. :-) Those 10 - 50 user networks are better served with an office suite (MS Office/Open Office) on each workstation, a basic file server and a simple mail server (Mercury Mail Server??). There are many parts of the world where internet access is too slow/expensive/unreliable (select any one, two or all three) to make cloud based computing a viable option. -- Stuart On 5 Aug 2010 at 14:36, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Stuart, > > Are you saying that you agree or disagree with my proposition? > > I agree that there are millions of offices that just want basic office > functionality, but none want the hassle of a local onsite File Server > and Exchange Server. Witness Janet Erbach's recent experiences with > Windows SBS. > > I would love to see all the 10 - 20 - 50 user networks switch to a > skybox type storage and online WP, Spreadsheet and email. I love > gmail for domains, but unfortunately google docs are not there yet. > The new Office Live (have you all seen that -free online MS Office no > installation required) is an attractive proposition. > > Thanks > > Mark > > > > > On 5 August 2010 11:58, Stuart McLachlan > wrote: > > > Look at the millions of workstations in offices around the world > > where management just want their staff to do their jobs with word > > processors, spreadsheets, databases and internal email. > > > > I certainly don't see that changing too much in the next 5 years - > > at least, not in my part of the world. > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > > > On 5 Aug 2010 at 10:25, Mark Breen wrote: > > > > > Hello Jim > > > > > > I recently spent 90 minutes discussing the future of the desktop > > > with my brother-in-law who works for Microsoft since he left > > > school. > > > > > > I said that I believed that in 5 years only, we will see windows > > > disappearing from the standard desktop and people moving to > > > browser based desktops. > > > > > > He laughed and said no way. I was saying that for the average > > > user that needs word processor, spreadsheet and browser, we will > > > finally be able to get off the Windows treadmill. > > > > > > Do you think that my time frame is too short? Considering how > > > fast Chrome is moving, it could happen. > > > > > > Paul, my BIL, mentioned video editing, and other heavy apps, and I > > > responded that those can stay on Windows, but they represent only > > > 5-10% of users, 90% nowadays just need a browser. Even accounts > > > software is moving finally, to a Saas or as we called in in early > > > 2000's, an Application Service Provider - haha, how old fashioned > > > that sounds now, almost like 80's hair styles on ladies nowadays. > > > > > > So, am I completely wrong with my "The Windows desktop will be > > > reduced by 50% in 5 years time comment? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31 July 2010 02:48, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > > > Here is an interesting article link discussing the current world > > > > of the browser and as related to the internet. > > > > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/16/browser_wars/ > > > > > > > > According to the latest stats IE no longer holds the dominate > > > > place among browsers: > > > > > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp > > > > > > > > What does this mean? > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Fri Aug 6 09:06:40 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:06:40 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update In-Reply-To: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> Hi again, Well, the IT crew did not fix the problem. In fact, by the time they quit, the computer would not boot all the way - it would start and then shut down and restart endlessly. They did not know how to fix that. There was talk of replacing the computer as less expensive than continuing to pay for IT time. Yesterday morning, I took my Spin-Rite over to Brad's house, powered up the computer, went into Setup and changed the boot sequence so it would boot from the CD, popped Spin-Rite into the drive and rebooted. Spin-Rite, running at Level 2, found two sectors where most of the data could be recovered, but not all. Once Spin-Rite had done its magic, the computer booted, ran Chkdsk and launched Windows. However, IE would not go to the Interent at all. It would start and then disappear. (There was some other application I tried to launch that also started and disappeared.) I opened a command window and pinged my own website - that worked. I pinged the ISP and Microsoft, and both of those efforts timed out. But, at least I knew I did have a live connection to the Internet. In IE, I clicked Tools and Internet Options - was denied access to that with a message something like "this action has been canceled because of restrictions on this computer, please contact your system administrator." That was a real surprise - Brad was signed in as Administrator. At this point, I concluded that some Windows components were corrupted, possibly because they had been partially located in the unrecoverable sectors. I launched the Wizard for adding Windows components - the generic host process error message popped up - using ProcExp.exe set to scroll to new processes, I saw the dwwin.exe process was the one trying to run - I killed it, but the computer still bogged down. After another reboot, I went to Control Panel and uninstalled IE7. While I was doing that the generic host process error showed up again. This time I just ignored it, and the computer did not bog down. Once IE7 was uninstalled, the remaining IE 6 would go to the Internet. So, now we had a functioning computer again, but the error message that had begun all the efforts was still there. It turns out Brad has Acronis True Image Home installed and had a full backup of his system from July 27, with incremental backups for most of the succeeding days. So, I ran a restore of his full backup - after more than an hour of that restore, with 26 seconds to go according to the progress bar, a message popped up asking for the WinXP SP2 disk, because some 'original components' were required - that's what it said. I inserted my CD and clicked 'Retry' - the message box disappeared - but Acronis did not proceed from the 26 seconds remaining status - and I waited a long time until there just wasn't any drive activity at all. I closed up the Acronis. I went back to installing optional components from the WindowsXP SP2 disk. Probably because of the interruption in the Acronis image restore, there were duplicates of virtually all the shortcut links - on the desktop, in all the start menus, anywhere a shortcut existed there was a duplicate without the proper icon. I cleaned those up manually. Now, I was finally able to get to the Internet to download a fresh copy of Malwarebytes - which had been where the IT guys' efforts came apart the day before. Got it downloaded, ran it - it found 3 bad guys and wrote a log file of the findings - I told it to get rid of them and it did. One name I recall was approximately 'Trojan.Fraudcheck' - don't you just love the irony!?!? Before John Bartow asks me why Brad isn't using Vipre to protect that computer from such invasions, I will explain - the home office uses AVG by subscription. It is a 'house rule' that everybody will use the same subscription. So, AVG is what's guarding that computer. We had gone for quite some time without getting the svchost.exe error message, but now it did show up again. Using ProcExp, it was clear that dwwin.exe was still the culprit. Today, it is my intention to check what dlls dwwin.exe calls and get fresh copies of them plus the executable. Does anybody have additional advice for me? Thanks, T Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Hi All, > > I could use a little help figuring this one out. > > My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be > booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe > application error" usually with something like "instruction at > referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It > seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty > update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion > process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole > system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a > disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, > and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, > I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't > get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function > because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it > might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the > solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. > > When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I > could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display > the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on > the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried > Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search > results, too. Nothing worked. > > Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home > office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I > can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to > make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his > computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and > reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they > thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were > getting ready to sign off. > > Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I > would love some guidance! > > Best regards, > T > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Aug 6 12:26:00 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 10:26:00 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> Message-ID: > Does anybody have additional advice for me? > ==========I didn't get anywhere near as far as you did Tina! Fortunately, all my data files are stored on a second hd, so wiping the Windows drive clean was easier than chasing whatever hit me. The guy who fixed it charged me $65 and it was ready in a few hours -- tons better than what it would've cost me in lost work to try to recover from it. I hope your brother knows what a jewel you are! BTW, I'm running VIPRE and if your brother's troubles are the same as mine, VIPRE didn't catch it either. The technician that fixed it just said Windows was broke, which I can believe -- the system is 8 years old! Considering the service I got out of it, I guess it was due. Susan H. From tinanfields at torchlake.com Fri Aug 6 09:29:33 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:29:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update In-Reply-To: References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4C5C1C4D.1080002@torchlake.com> Maybe what I should have done is just wipe it and restore the Acronis image. I've never actually done that, so I could use some guidance there from the group. T Susan Harkins wrote: >> Does anybody have additional advice for me? >> >> > > ==========I didn't get anywhere near as far as you did Tina! Fortunately, > all my data files are stored on a second hd, so wiping the Windows drive > clean was easier than chasing whatever hit me. The guy who fixed it charged > me $65 and it was ready in a few hours -- tons better than what it would've > cost me in lost work to try to recover from it. I hope your brother knows > what a jewel you are! BTW, I'm running VIPRE and if your brother's troubles > are the same as mine, VIPRE didn't catch it either. The technician that > fixed it just said Windows was broke, which I can believe -- the system is > 8 years old! Considering the service I got out of it, I guess it was due. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From rustykh at yahoo.com Fri Aug 6 10:25:26 2010 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update In-Reply-To: <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <998194.69778.qm@web65414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Sometimes running just one malware removal tool doesn't get everything. Vipre has a command line rescue program that you can download for free. If you want to try it you can find it here: http://live.sunbeltsoftware.com/ I run a 25 workstation network with Vipre installed on all of them but still had a few machines get infected with a TDSS rootkit a few months ago. I was able to remove it with a Kaspersky utility designed for that specific infection, but they also have a manual removal tool here: http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/avptool2010?level=2 that you might want to try. HTH Rusty ________________________________ From: Tina Norris Fields To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 9:06:40 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update Hi again, Well, the IT crew did not fix the problem. In fact, by the time they quit, the computer would not boot all the way - it would start and then shut down and restart endlessly. They did not know how to fix that. There was talk of replacing the computer as less expensive than continuing to pay for IT time. Yesterday morning, I took my Spin-Rite over to Brad's house, powered up the computer, went into Setup and changed the boot sequence so it would boot from the CD, popped Spin-Rite into the drive and rebooted. Spin-Rite, running at Level 2, found two sectors where most of the data could be recovered, but not all. Once Spin-Rite had done its magic, the computer booted, ran Chkdsk and launched Windows. However, IE would not go to the Interent at all. It would start and then disappear. (There was some other application I tried to launch that also started and disappeared.) I opened a command window and pinged my own website - that worked. I pinged the ISP and Microsoft, and both of those efforts timed out. But, at least I knew I did have a live connection to the Internet. In IE, I clicked Tools and Internet Options - was denied access to that with a message something like "this action has been canceled because of restrictions on this computer, please contact your system administrator." That was a real surprise - Brad was signed in as Administrator. At this point, I concluded that some Windows components were corrupted, possibly because they had been partially located in the unrecoverable sectors. I launched the Wizard for adding Windows components - the generic host process error message popped up - using ProcExp.exe set to scroll to new processes, I saw the dwwin.exe process was the one trying to run - I killed it, but the computer still bogged down. After another reboot, I went to Control Panel and uninstalled IE7. While I was doing that the generic host process error showed up again. This time I just ignored it, and the computer did not bog down. Once IE7 was uninstalled, the remaining IE 6 would go to the Internet. So, now we had a functioning computer again, but the error message that had begun all the efforts was still there. It turns out Brad has Acronis True Image Home installed and had a full backup of his system from July 27, with incremental backups for most of the succeeding days. So, I ran a restore of his full backup - after more than an hour of that restore, with 26 seconds to go according to the progress bar, a message popped up asking for the WinXP SP2 disk, because some 'original components' were required - that's what it said. I inserted my CD and clicked 'Retry' - the message box disappeared - but Acronis did not proceed from the 26 seconds remaining status - and I waited a long time until there just wasn't any drive activity at all. I closed up the Acronis. I went back to installing optional components from the WindowsXP SP2 disk. Probably because of the interruption in the Acronis image restore, there were duplicates of virtually all the shortcut links - on the desktop, in all the start menus, anywhere a shortcut existed there was a duplicate without the proper icon. I cleaned those up manually. Now, I was finally able to get to the Internet to download a fresh copy of Malwarebytes - which had been where the IT guys' efforts came apart the day before. Got it downloaded, ran it - it found 3 bad guys and wrote a log file of the findings - I told it to get rid of them and it did. One name I recall was approximately 'Trojan.Fraudcheck' - don't you just love the irony!?!? Before John Bartow asks me why Brad isn't using Vipre to protect that computer from such invasions, I will explain - the home office uses AVG by subscription. It is a 'house rule' that everybody will use the same subscription. So, AVG is what's guarding that computer. We had gone for quite some time without getting the svchost.exe error message, but now it did show up again. Using ProcExp, it was clear that dwwin.exe was still the culprit. Today, it is my intention to check what dlls dwwin.exe calls and get fresh copies of them plus the executable. Does anybody have additional advice for me? Thanks, T Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Hi All, > > I could use a little help figuring this one out. > > My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be > booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe > application error" usually with something like "instruction at > referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It > seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty > update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion > process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole > system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a > disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, > and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, > I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't > get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function > because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it > might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the > solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. > > When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I > could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display > the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on > the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried > Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search > results, too. Nothing worked. > > Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home > office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I > can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to > make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his > computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and > reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they > thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were > getting ready to sign off. > > Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I > would love some guidance! > > Best regards, > T > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Aug 6 10:37:33 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:37:33 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update In-Reply-To: <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <46B0F9CF05E243918DF76F2ED9CD1C4B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Tina: Get a new hard drive. Once SpinRite starts finding hard sector failures that is generally a sign of more to come before the final failure. The corruption does seem to be near the boot tracks and those positions on the drive surface can not be substituted. AVG is a little dated as security software. I have run security scans on clients' drives with that product installed and found malware...in one case a number items. Sounds like you did every thing else right. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update Hi again, Well, the IT crew did not fix the problem. In fact, by the time they quit, the computer would not boot all the way - it would start and then shut down and restart endlessly. They did not know how to fix that. There was talk of replacing the computer as less expensive than continuing to pay for IT time. Yesterday morning, I took my Spin-Rite over to Brad's house, powered up the computer, went into Setup and changed the boot sequence so it would boot from the CD, popped Spin-Rite into the drive and rebooted. Spin-Rite, running at Level 2, found two sectors where most of the data could be recovered, but not all. Once Spin-Rite had done its magic, the computer booted, ran Chkdsk and launched Windows. However, IE would not go to the Interent at all. It would start and then disappear. (There was some other application I tried to launch that also started and disappeared.) I opened a command window and pinged my own website - that worked. I pinged the ISP and Microsoft, and both of those efforts timed out. But, at least I knew I did have a live connection to the Internet. In IE, I clicked Tools and Internet Options - was denied access to that with a message something like "this action has been canceled because of restrictions on this computer, please contact your system administrator." That was a real surprise - Brad was signed in as Administrator. At this point, I concluded that some Windows components were corrupted, possibly because they had been partially located in the unrecoverable sectors. I launched the Wizard for adding Windows components - the generic host process error message popped up - using ProcExp.exe set to scroll to new processes, I saw the dwwin.exe process was the one trying to run - I killed it, but the computer still bogged down. After another reboot, I went to Control Panel and uninstalled IE7. While I was doing that the generic host process error showed up again. This time I just ignored it, and the computer did not bog down. Once IE7 was uninstalled, the remaining IE 6 would go to the Internet. So, now we had a functioning computer again, but the error message that had begun all the efforts was still there. It turns out Brad has Acronis True Image Home installed and had a full backup of his system from July 27, with incremental backups for most of the succeeding days. So, I ran a restore of his full backup - after more than an hour of that restore, with 26 seconds to go according to the progress bar, a message popped up asking for the WinXP SP2 disk, because some 'original components' were required - that's what it said. I inserted my CD and clicked 'Retry' - the message box disappeared - but Acronis did not proceed from the 26 seconds remaining status - and I waited a long time until there just wasn't any drive activity at all. I closed up the Acronis. I went back to installing optional components from the WindowsXP SP2 disk. Probably because of the interruption in the Acronis image restore, there were duplicates of virtually all the shortcut links - on the desktop, in all the start menus, anywhere a shortcut existed there was a duplicate without the proper icon. I cleaned those up manually. Now, I was finally able to get to the Internet to download a fresh copy of Malwarebytes - which had been where the IT guys' efforts came apart the day before. Got it downloaded, ran it - it found 3 bad guys and wrote a log file of the findings - I told it to get rid of them and it did. One name I recall was approximately 'Trojan.Fraudcheck' - don't you just love the irony!?!? Before John Bartow asks me why Brad isn't using Vipre to protect that computer from such invasions, I will explain - the home office uses AVG by subscription. It is a 'house rule' that everybody will use the same subscription. So, AVG is what's guarding that computer. We had gone for quite some time without getting the svchost.exe error message, but now it did show up again. Using ProcExp, it was clear that dwwin.exe was still the culprit. Today, it is my intention to check what dlls dwwin.exe calls and get fresh copies of them plus the executable. Does anybody have additional advice for me? Thanks, T Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Hi All, > > I could use a little help figuring this one out. > > My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be > booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe > application error" usually with something like "instruction at > referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It > seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty > update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion > process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole > system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a > disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, > and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, > I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't > get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function > because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it > might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the > solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. > > When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I > could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display > the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on > the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried > Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search > results, too. Nothing worked. > > Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home > office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I > can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to > make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his > computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and > reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they > thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were > getting ready to sign off. > > Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I > would love some guidance! > > Best regards, > T > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Fri Aug 6 10:52:04 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:52:04 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update In-Reply-To: <998194.69778.qm@web65414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> <998194.69778.qm@web65414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C5C2FA4.5050609@torchlake.com> Thanks Rusty T Rusty Hammond wrote: > Sometimes running just one malware removal tool doesn't get everything. Vipre > has a command line rescue program that you can download for free. If you want > to try it you can find it here: http://live.sunbeltsoftware.com/ > > I run a 25 workstation network with Vipre installed on all of them but still had > a few machines get infected with a TDSS rootkit a few months ago. I was able to > remove it with a Kaspersky utility designed for that specific infection, but > they also have a manual removal tool here: > http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/avptool2010?level=2 that you might want to > try. > > HTH > > Rusty > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tina Norris Fields > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 9:06:40 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update > > Hi again, > > Well, the IT crew did not fix the problem. In fact, by the time they > quit, the computer would not boot all the way - it would start and then > shut down and restart endlessly. They did not know how to fix that. > There was talk of replacing the computer as less expensive than > continuing to pay for IT time. > > Yesterday morning, I took my Spin-Rite over to Brad's house, powered up > the computer, went into Setup and changed the boot sequence so it would > boot from the CD, popped Spin-Rite into the drive and rebooted. > Spin-Rite, running at Level 2, found two sectors where most of the data > could be recovered, but not all. Once Spin-Rite had done its magic, the > computer booted, ran Chkdsk and launched Windows. However, IE would not > go to the Interent at all. It would start and then disappear. (There was > some other application I tried to launch that also started and > disappeared.) I opened a command window and pinged my own website - > that worked. I pinged the ISP and Microsoft, and both of those efforts > timed out. But, at least I knew I did have a live connection to the > Internet. In IE, I clicked Tools and Internet Options - was denied > access to that with a message something like "this action has been > canceled because of restrictions on this computer, please contact your > system administrator." That was a real surprise - Brad was signed in as > Administrator. > > At this point, I concluded that some Windows components were corrupted, > possibly because they had been partially located in the unrecoverable > sectors. I launched the Wizard for adding Windows components - the > generic host process error message popped up - using ProcExp.exe set to > scroll to new processes, I saw the dwwin.exe process was the one trying > to run - I killed it, but the computer still bogged down. > > After another reboot, I went to Control Panel and uninstalled IE7. > While I was doing that the generic host process error showed up again. > This time I just ignored it, and the computer did not bog down. Once > IE7 was uninstalled, the remaining IE 6 would go to the Internet. So, > now we had a functioning computer again, but the error message that had > begun all the efforts was still there. > > It turns out Brad has Acronis True Image Home installed and had a full > backup of his system from July 27, with incremental backups for most of > the succeeding days. So, I ran a restore of his full backup - after > more than an hour of that restore, with 26 seconds to go according to > the progress bar, a message popped up asking for the WinXP SP2 disk, > because some 'original components' were required - that's what it said. > I inserted my CD and clicked 'Retry' - the message box disappeared - but > Acronis did not proceed from the 26 seconds remaining status - and I > waited a long time until there just wasn't any drive activity at all. I > closed up the Acronis. I went back to installing optional components > from the WindowsXP SP2 disk. Probably because of the interruption in > the Acronis image restore, there were duplicates of virtually all the > shortcut links - on the desktop, in all the start menus, anywhere a > shortcut existed there was a duplicate without the proper icon. I > cleaned those up manually. > > Now, I was finally able to get to the Internet to download a fresh copy > of Malwarebytes - which had been where the IT guys' efforts came apart > the day before. Got it downloaded, ran it - it found 3 bad guys and > wrote a log file of the findings - I told it to get rid of them and it > did. One name I recall was approximately 'Trojan.Fraudcheck' - don't > you just love the irony!?!? Before John Bartow asks me why Brad isn't > using Vipre to protect that computer from such invasions, I will explain > - the home office uses AVG by subscription. It is a 'house rule' that > everybody will use the same subscription. So, AVG is what's guarding > that computer. > > We had gone for quite some time without getting the svchost.exe error > message, but now it did show up again. Using ProcExp, it was clear that > dwwin.exe was still the culprit. Today, it is my intention to check > what dlls dwwin.exe calls and get fresh copies of them plus the executable. > > Does anybody have additional advice for me? > > Thanks, > T > > > > Tina Norris Fields wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I could use a little help figuring this one out. >> >> My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be >> booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe >> application error" usually with something like "instruction at >> referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It >> seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty >> update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion >> process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole >> system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a >> disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, >> and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, >> I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't >> get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function >> because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it >> might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the >> solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. >> >> When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I >> could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display >> the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on >> the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried >> Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search >> results, too. Nothing worked. >> >> Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home >> office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I >> can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to >> make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his >> computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and >> reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they >> thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were >> getting ready to sign off. >> >> Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I >> would love some guidance! >> >> Best regards, >> T >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat Aug 7 08:16:11 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 09:16:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 In-Reply-To: <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4C5D5C9B.9070306@torchlake.com> Back again, After looking at the huge number of dlls and other processes that appeared to be connected to dwwin.exe, I opted for a different approach. Acting on Rusty's comment, I used the Vipre rescue and had it run a deep scan. It found and cleaned 4 threat traces in the Registry. IE7 would still not allow access to Windows update - I could get to lots of Internet places, including microsoft.com, but anything that got close to updating Windows resulted in the notice that IE could not display that page, that I might not be connected to the Internet, etc. - not the common page I usually see when IE really can't reach the Internet, but one with messages in red font and enclosed in black-bordered boxes. Also, the errant redirect continued to happen - there are about three different ones that I saw more than once - one looked like a local news page, but it is not something Brad chose (http://www.news9today.net/money-news/latest-news.php?ex=002&tid=AOXUS1) I've followed up on that one now, myself - it is an advertisement entry point, if you try to select news, or politics, or anything from its navigation bar, you are sent to a page to sign up for making lots of money (http://www.quickcashkit.net/index2/?hop=inet2aff2&ex=002). - one is a 'find single mates' invitation (http://matelocal.com/2273/?subid=directcpv-preferred-1&affid=7167) - one was an urgent notice that the PC is infected, click here to fix it (looked very similar to the AntivirXP2009 that got my Dad's computer a couple years ago). Attempting to reach the Internet Options still yielded the message that that operation was "canceled due to security restrictions on this computer, please contact your system administrator." Persuaded that something was hijacking Brad's IE7, I downloaded HiJackThis and ran that - I am not experienced at reading that log, but I really didn't spot the culprit. If one of you is knowledgeable about analyzing that log, and would be willing to look it over, please let me know and I will pass it along to you. Since I could get to the Internet, I went to mozilla.com and downloaded the current Firefox, installed it and used it to get to microsoft.com where I downloaded IE8 for manual installation. Once IE8 was installed, we had access to the Tools > Internet Options dialog box. Yay! But, we still could not get to Windows update! And, the redirect still popped up. His OS was WinXP SP2, whose support ended July 13, 2010 - so, I searched for how to get SP3 when I couldn't get to Windows update. I did finally find a way to download that for manual installation. SP3 was successfully installed yesterday after supper. But, guess what - this morning, the redirect is still there, and IE cannot get to Windows update, and, of course the old bugaboo "generic service host error" is still popping up. This syndrome has to be an infection of some kind I'm thinking. Unless, as Jim suggested, the corruption is in a location that cannot be substituted and the only real solution is to get a new hard drive. Or, perhaps this is a combination of things 1) a corruption at the boot tracks, and 2) a hijacker of some sort. I'm ready to start pricing good SATA hard drives for Brad's computer. He has to have a functional and reliable computer for his business (don't we all?). But, it's very difficult for me to let go of a mystery like this - I really want to solve it. Do you wizards have any more good thoughts for me? What is redirecting Brad's IE browser? What is preventing IE from getting to Windows update? What is calling the svchost.exe error? Thanks again, T Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Hi again, > > Well, the IT crew did not fix the problem. In fact, by the time they > quit, the computer would not boot all the way - it would start and then > shut down and restart endlessly. They did not know how to fix that. > There was talk of replacing the computer as less expensive than > continuing to pay for IT time. > > Yesterday morning, I took my Spin-Rite over to Brad's house, powered up > the computer, went into Setup and changed the boot sequence so it would > boot from the CD, popped Spin-Rite into the drive and rebooted. > Spin-Rite, running at Level 2, found two sectors where most of the data > could be recovered, but not all. Once Spin-Rite had done its magic, the > computer booted, ran Chkdsk and launched Windows. However, IE would not > go to the Interent at all. It would start and then disappear. (There was > some other application I tried to launch that also started and > disappeared.) I opened a command window and pinged my own website - > that worked. I pinged the ISP and Microsoft, and both of those efforts > timed out. But, at least I knew I did have a live connection to the > Internet. In IE, I clicked Tools and Internet Options - was denied > access to that with a message something like "this action has been > canceled because of restrictions on this computer, please contact your > system administrator." That was a real surprise - Brad was signed in as > Administrator. > > At this point, I concluded that some Windows components were corrupted, > possibly because they had been partially located in the unrecoverable > sectors. I launched the Wizard for adding Windows components - the > generic host process error message popped up - using ProcExp.exe set to > scroll to new processes, I saw the dwwin.exe process was the one trying > to run - I killed it, but the computer still bogged down. > > After another reboot, I went to Control Panel and uninstalled IE7. > While I was doing that the generic host process error showed up again. > This time I just ignored it, and the computer did not bog down. Once > IE7 was uninstalled, the remaining IE 6 would go to the Internet. So, > now we had a functioning computer again, but the error message that had > begun all the efforts was still there. > > It turns out Brad has Acronis True Image Home installed and had a full > backup of his system from July 27, with incremental backups for most of > the succeeding days. So, I ran a restore of his full backup - after > more than an hour of that restore, with 26 seconds to go according to > the progress bar, a message popped up asking for the WinXP SP2 disk, > because some 'original components' were required - that's what it said. > I inserted my CD and clicked 'Retry' - the message box disappeared - but > Acronis did not proceed from the 26 seconds remaining status - and I > waited a long time until there just wasn't any drive activity at all. I > closed up the Acronis. I went back to installing optional components > from the WindowsXP SP2 disk. Probably because of the interruption in > the Acronis image restore, there were duplicates of virtually all the > shortcut links - on the desktop, in all the start menus, anywhere a > shortcut existed there was a duplicate without the proper icon. I > cleaned those up manually. > > Now, I was finally able to get to the Internet to download a fresh copy > of Malwarebytes - which had been where the IT guys' efforts came apart > the day before. Got it downloaded, ran it - it found 3 bad guys and > wrote a log file of the findings - I told it to get rid of them and it > did. One name I recall was approximately 'Trojan.Fraudcheck' - don't > you just love the irony!?!? Before John Bartow asks me why Brad isn't > using Vipre to protect that computer from such invasions, I will explain > - the home office uses AVG by subscription. It is a 'house rule' that > everybody will use the same subscription. So, AVG is what's guarding > that computer. > > We had gone for quite some time without getting the svchost.exe error > message, but now it did show up again. Using ProcExp, it was clear that > dwwin.exe was still the culprit. Today, it is my intention to check > what dlls dwwin.exe calls and get fresh copies of them plus the executable. > > Does anybody have additional advice for me? > > Thanks, > T > > > > Tina Norris Fields wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I could use a little help figuring this one out. >> >> My son-in-law, Brad, has this problem: during some operation, could be >> booting up, could be almost anything, he gets the warning "svchost.exe >> application error" usually with something like "instruction at >> referenced memory at "0x00000010" and "memory could not be read." It >> seems to me I have recently seen this error with a corrupted or faulty >> update of some software - I think I had that happen with an HP companion >> process, something like "image monitor" that bogged down my whole >> system, and in my case the problem was solved by a reinstall and a >> disabling of the culprit application (it was hogging my CPU resources, >> and I really didn't need it). Googling the svchost.exe error postings, >> I find that it is likely caused by some corrupted dll file that didn't >> get to finish whatever it was doing, and nothing else could function >> because of that bottleneck. Several of the postings suggested that it >> might be a failed or incomplete or corrupted Windows update, and the >> solution could be as easy as doing a manual Windows update and rebooting. >> >> When I tried to get to the Windows update site from his computer, I >> could not get there - IE consistently reported that it could not display >> the page. This was true whether I used the Windows update command on >> the menu or I launched the browser and typed in the URL. I tried >> Googling the Windows update and clicking the link from the Google search >> results, too. Nothing worked. >> >> Because he is doing work, often using a VPN connection with his home >> office, he has IT support available. I told him that while I believe I >> can get this figured out and fixed, it will probably be a lot faster to >> make use of his IT guys. Today, they have been working remotely on his >> computer - they've uninstalled all his malware protection and >> reinstalled fresh copies, they've updated his browser to IE8, they >> thought they had it fixed, and then it popped up again, while they were >> getting ready to sign off. >> >> Does anybody on this list know what I'm really dealing with here? I >> would love some guidance! >> >> Best regards, >> T >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Aug 7 13:08:19 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 11:08:19 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 In-Reply-To: <4C5D5C9B.9070306@torchlake.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com> <4C5D5C9B.9070306@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <005C144E82474CD38B6BA6002A0A64C5@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Tina: It looks like it is going to take some personal intervention to remove this virus. With IE, it takes its queues from a registry location where the default or home page is stored so IE itself is probably not infected. What is happening is that a process is being run that pushes a new location into registry and that is the same with 'blocked the access' to certain web locations. Run Regedit and navigate to somewhere like this: hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\internet explorer\... (from memory so check). In this location is all the setting that control IE. A dozen weird hacks can be pushed into this location. I would check "Main" In there is stored all the search/default/load locations. These are most likely chanced. Changing these will not give long term relief as the virus will do another update and you are back where you started from. Now you have to find the program that is doing the work. A sophisticated virus usually has a number of layers like an onion so removing it is not easy. Just finding and removing the working virus usually does not work as yet another segment of the program just replaces it and the app that does the replacement very likely also has auto-restarting backup. First look at the list of startup location given to you by Hack-This. There are only so many locations where apps will be automatically started. Check out each of the auto-boot files. Rest assured one of your villains will be there. It is carefully named so it sounds like a legitimate file but it is not. I.E. named winex... sounds legit but it is fake. It may actually be correctly named but will be placed in a wrong directory. When you find the culprit file and location you can delete it but that will not solve your problem as virus will just rewrite itself at the next cycle or reboot. I have fond a little trick to stopping the file from coming back. Go into notepad and save a file with the same name and to the same location as the one you just deleted, then within file-explorer find the file you just created and flag it read-only. This process of discovery and removal will be a bit trial and error as the virus is not going to be simple to remove... after all it have defeated all virus protection already. A tough virus usually has at least 3 to 5 locations where it reboots from. After finishing you can go to the IE regiry on the offending computer, bring up the IE registry settings as previously mentioned and do the same on your laptop... cross-reference and fix any thing that seems out of place. If you have not already done so run a rootkit checker. Here is a good location for getting information and possible Rootkit virus... http://www.pchell.com/support/rootkitremovaltools.shtml These are real tough nuts and they are not always successful removed. If you have one and it can not be removed re-installation is the only solution. Another method for fixing Windows is to rebuild the OS which will set everything back to initial install settings but all the data and info files will be in place and still there. When rebooting with the original CD, do not select the '...Recovery Console..." option, continue and select the repair option "R". Note: that any missing SPs or updates will have to be reinstalled. You can send me the Hack-this startup list and log files if you feel two sets of eyes would be better than one. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:16 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 Back again, After looking at the huge number of dlls and other processes that appeared to be connected to dwwin.exe, I opted for a different approach. Acting on Rusty's comment, I used the Vipre rescue and had it run a deep scan. It found and cleaned 4 threat traces in the Registry. IE7 would still not allow access to Windows update - I could get to lots of Internet places, including microsoft.com, but anything that got close to updating Windows resulted in the notice that IE could not display that page, that I might not be connected to the Internet, etc. - not the common page I usually see when IE really can't reach the Internet, but one with messages in red font and enclosed in black-bordered boxes. Also, the errant redirect continued to happen - there are about three different ones that I saw more than once - one looked like a local news page, but it is not something Brad chose (http://www.news9today.net/money-news/latest-news.php?ex=002&tid=AOXUS1) I've followed up on that one now, myself - it is an advertisement entry point, if you try to select news, or politics, or anything from its navigation bar, you are sent to a page to sign up for making lots of money (http://www.quickcashkit.net/index2/?hop=inet2aff2&ex=002). - one is a 'find single mates' invitation (http://matelocal.com/2273/?subid=directcpv-preferred-1&affid=7167) - one was an urgent notice that the PC is infected, click here to fix it (looked very similar to the AntivirXP2009 that got my Dad's computer a couple years ago). Attempting to reach the Internet Options still yielded the message that that operation was "canceled due to security restrictions on this computer, please contact your system administrator." Persuaded that something was hijacking Brad's IE7, I downloaded HiJackThis and ran that - I am not experienced at reading that log, but I really didn't spot the culprit. If one of you is knowledgeable about analyzing that log, and would be willing to look it over, please let me know and I will pass it along to you. Since I could get to the Internet, I went to mozilla.com and downloaded the current Firefox, installed it and used it to get to microsoft.com where I downloaded IE8 for manual installation. Once IE8 was installed, we had access to the Tools > Internet Options dialog box. Yay! But, we still could not get to Windows update! And, the redirect still popped up. His OS was WinXP SP2, whose support ended July 13, 2010 - so, I searched for how to get SP3 when I couldn't get to Windows update. I did finally find a way to download that for manual installation. SP3 was successfully installed yesterday after supper. But, guess what - this morning, the redirect is still there, and IE cannot get to Windows update, and, of course the old bugaboo "generic service host error" is still popping up. This syndrome has to be an infection of some kind I'm thinking. Unless, as Jim suggested, the corruption is in a location that cannot be substituted and the only real solution is to get a new hard drive. Or, perhaps this is a combination of things 1) a corruption at the boot tracks, and 2) a hijacker of some sort. I'm ready to start pricing good SATA hard drives for Brad's computer. He has to have a functional and reliable computer for his business (don't we all?). But, it's very difficult for me to let go of a mystery like this - I really want to solve it. Do you wizards have any more good thoughts for me? What is redirecting Brad's IE browser? What is preventing IE from getting to Windows update? What is calling the svchost.exe error? Thanks again, T From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Aug 8 06:21:39 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 07:21:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 In-Reply-To: <005C144E82474CD38B6BA6002A0A64C5@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com><4C5D5C9B.9070306@torchlake.com> <005C144E82474CD38B6BA6002A0A64C5@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4C5E9343.8070508@torchlake.com> Hi Jim, I've sent you the HiJackThis log from Brad's computer off-list. Thank you for looking it over for me. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina: > > It looks like it is going to take some personal intervention to remove this > virus. With IE, it takes its queues from a registry location where the > default or home page is stored so IE itself is probably not infected. > > What is happening is that a process is being run that pushes a new location > into registry and that is the same with 'blocked the access' to certain web > locations. Run Regedit and navigate to somewhere like this: > hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\internet explorer\... (from memory so > check). In this location is all the setting that control IE. A dozen weird > hacks can be pushed into this location. I would check "Main" In there is > stored all the search/default/load locations. These are most likely chanced. > Changing these will not give long term relief as the virus will do another > update and you are back where you started from. Now you have to find the > program that is doing the work. > > A sophisticated virus usually has a number of layers like an onion so > removing it is not easy. Just finding and removing the working virus usually > does not work as yet another segment of the program just replaces it and the > app that does the replacement very likely also has auto-restarting backup. > > First look at the list of startup location given to you by Hack-This. There > are only so many locations where apps will be automatically started. Check > out each of the auto-boot files. Rest assured one of your villains will be > there. It is carefully named so it sounds like a legitimate file but it is > not. I.E. named winex... sounds legit but it is fake. It may actually be > correctly named but will be placed in a wrong directory. > > When you find the culprit file and location you can delete it but that will > not solve your problem as virus will just rewrite itself at the next cycle > or reboot. I have fond a little trick to stopping the file from coming back. > > Go into notepad and save a file with the same name and to the same location > as the one you just deleted, then within file-explorer find the file you > just created and flag it read-only. > > This process of discovery and removal will be a bit trial and error as the > virus is not going to be simple to remove... after all it have defeated all > virus protection already. A tough virus usually has at least 3 to 5 > locations where it reboots from. > > After finishing you can go to the IE regiry on the offending computer, bring > up the IE registry settings as previously mentioned and do the same on your > laptop... cross-reference and fix any thing that seems out of place. > > If you have not already done so run a rootkit checker. Here is a good > location for getting information and possible Rootkit virus... > > http://www.pchell.com/support/rootkitremovaltools.shtml > > These are real tough nuts and they are not always successful removed. If you > have one and it can not be removed re-installation is the only solution. > > Another method for fixing Windows is to rebuild the OS which will set > everything back to initial install settings but all the data and info files > will be in place and still there. When rebooting with the original CD, do > not select the '...Recovery Console..." option, continue and select the > repair option "R". Note: that any missing SPs or updates will have to be > reinstalled. > > You can send me the Hack-this startup list and log files if you feel two > sets of eyes would be better than one. > > HTH > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:16 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 > > Back again, > > After looking at the huge number of dlls and other processes that > appeared to be connected to dwwin.exe, I opted for a different approach. > > Acting on Rusty's comment, I used the Vipre rescue and had it run a deep > scan. It found and cleaned 4 threat traces in the Registry. > IE7 would still not allow access to Windows update - I could get to lots > of Internet places, including microsoft.com, but anything that got close > to updating Windows resulted in the notice that IE could not display > that page, that I might not be connected to the Internet, etc. - not the > common page I usually see when IE really can't reach the Internet, but > one with messages in red font and enclosed in black-bordered boxes. > Also, the errant redirect continued to happen - there are about three > different ones that I saw more than once > - one looked like a local news page, but it is not something Brad chose > (http://www.news9today.net/money-news/latest-news.php?ex=002&tid=AOXUS1) > I've followed up on that one now, myself - it is an advertisement entry > point, if you try to select news, or politics, or anything from its > navigation bar, you are sent to a page to sign up for making lots of > money (A known bad url was replaced by VIPRE). > - one is a 'find single mates' invitation > (http://matelocal.com/2273/?subid=directcpv-preferred-1&affid=7167) > - one was an urgent notice that the PC is infected, click here to fix it > (looked very similar to the AntivirXP2009 that got my Dad's computer a > couple years ago). > Attempting to reach the Internet Options still yielded the message that > that operation was "canceled due to security restrictions on this > computer, please contact your system administrator." > > Persuaded that something was hijacking Brad's IE7, I downloaded > HiJackThis and ran that - I am not experienced at reading that log, but > I really didn't spot the culprit. If one of you is knowledgeable about > analyzing that log, and would be willing to look it over, please let me > know and I will pass it along to you. > > Since I could get to the Internet, I went to mozilla.com and downloaded > the current Firefox, installed it and used it to get to microsoft.com > where I downloaded IE8 for manual installation. Once IE8 was installed, > we had access to the Tools > Internet Options dialog box. Yay! But, we > still could not get to Windows update! And, the redirect still popped up. > > His OS was WinXP SP2, whose support ended July 13, 2010 - so, I searched > for how to get SP3 when I couldn't get to Windows update. I did finally > find a way to download that for manual installation. SP3 was > successfully installed yesterday after supper. But, guess what - this > morning, the redirect is still there, and IE cannot get to Windows > update, and, of course the old bugaboo "generic service host error" is > still popping up. > > This syndrome has to be an infection of some kind I'm thinking. Unless, > as Jim suggested, the corruption is in a location that cannot be > substituted and the only real solution is to get a new hard drive. Or, > perhaps this is a combination of things 1) a corruption at the boot > tracks, and 2) a hijacker of some sort. > > I'm ready to start pricing good SATA hard drives for Brad's computer. > He has to have a functional and reliable computer for his business > (don't we all?). But, it's very difficult for me to let go of a mystery > like this - I really want to solve it. Do you wizards have any more > good thoughts for me? What is redirecting Brad's IE browser? What is > preventing IE from getting to Windows update? What is calling the > svchost.exe error? > > Thanks again, > T > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Aug 9 12:51:33 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:51:33 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature Message-ID: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- probably is, you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the document you're using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop the source file. Does anyone know if you can do that? I need a good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If Office would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's all I need! Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Aug 9 12:54:33 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:54:33 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fw: Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature Message-ID: <5B1A006761704ED1A7D733D84D34969E@salvationomc4p> BTW, I know you can use the Screen Clipping feature to grab just what you want -- I'm just finding it a bit awkward to use. Susan H. A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- probably is, you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the document you're using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop the source file. Does anyone know if you can do that? I need a good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If Office would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's all I need! Susan H. From df.waters at comcast.net Mon Aug 9 09:54:22 2010 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 09:54:22 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature In-Reply-To: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: Hi Susan, I've been using SnagIt for a few years. You can crop the picture to exactly where you want to. At $50, it may not be cheap, but it's very capable. The latest version will even record some screen videos. I think they have a 30 day free demo. It's at www.techsmith.com. HTH, Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:52 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- probably is, you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the document you're using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop the source file. Does anyone know if you can do that? I need a good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If Office would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's all I need! Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Aug 9 13:21:46 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 11:21:46 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <661503EB1D864AD59A3F1BEADB28687C@salvationomc4p> Thanks Dan -- I like SnagIt too -- but at $50, I'll just keep struggling with Office 2010's Clipping feature. :) I'm not sure why I find it awkward... it's just a bit unpredicable, which is actually me of course, and not the tool! Susan H. > Hi Susan, > > I've been using SnagIt for a few years. You can crop the picture to > exactly > where you want to. > > At $50, it may not be cheap, but it's very capable. The latest version > will > even record some screen videos. I think they have a 30 day free demo. > It's > at www.techsmith.com. From hkotsch at arcor.de Mon Aug 9 11:15:11 2010 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:15:11 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature In-Reply-To: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/mwsnap.html http://www.hardcopy.de/hardcopy/english/index.php Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Susan Harkins Gesendet: Montag, 9. August 2010 19:52 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- probably is, you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the document you're using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop the source file. Does anyone know if you can do that? I need a good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If Office would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's all I need! Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Aug 9 11:35:52 2010 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 11:35:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature In-Reply-To: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: I use the Windows included PAINT accessory to crop. Paste the screen capture into paint, crop it and then save. I don't need to do a lot of it though. It saves as a BMP file though, which are pretty big. So I then use IRFANVIEW to convert to JPG. http://www.irfanview.com GK On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- probably is, you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the document you're using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop the source file. Does anyone know if you can do that? > > I need a good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If Office would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's all I need! > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Aug 9 11:48:13 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 09:48:13 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] So you want to become a programmer? In-Reply-To: References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <1636D7EDBAE243A09CAB56AE97BD924B@creativesystemdesigns.com> If you want to become a programmer or you son or your daughter wants to take on the romantic life of a programmer here are some things they or you should know. http://regulargeek.com/2010/08/07/12-things-a-programmer-really-needs-to-kno w/ With luck, in a few years wide eyed and innocent, groups of geeks will no longer flood the halls of colleges and universities dreaming of a life as a "programmer" and realize that their new jobs are less like the fantasies portrayed in movies and more like farm field hands. ;-) Jim From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com Mon Aug 9 12:11:06 2010 From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 13:11:06 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature In-Reply-To: References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: You can use irfanview to do the whole thing. First copy whatever screen you need (PrtScn), the paste it into ifranview. Next use the mouse to define the area you want to crop and then hit Control-C. You can now paste the crop into any other application you want to work with. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:36 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature I use the Windows included PAINT accessory to crop. Paste the screen capture into paint, crop it and then save. I don't need to do a lot of it though. It saves as a BMP file though, which are pretty big. So I then use IRFANVIEW to convert to JPG. http://www.irfanview.com GK On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- probably is, you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the document you're using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop the source file. Does anyone know if you can do that? > > I need a good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If Office would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's all I need! > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Aug 9 13:32:18 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 11:32:18 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? Message-ID: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p> Outlook Contacts Auto-Complete List The Auto-Complete List is a feature which displays suggestions for names and e-mail addresses as you begin to type them. These suggestions are possible matches from a list of names and e-mail addresses from the e-mail messages that you have sent. In Outlook 2010, the Auto-Complete List file (.nk2) is discontinued. The Auto-Complete List entries are now saved in your Microsoft Exchange Server mailbox or in the Outlook Data File (.pst) for your account. =========Have I read this correctly -- AutoComplete is available only if you're on Exchange? I can't get it to work in my copy of Outlook 2010 and can't find a setting to set it free! ;( Susan H. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Aug 9 13:46:35 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 04:46:35 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature In-Reply-To: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <4C604D0B.4655.1822FBE9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Irfanview! On 9 Aug 2010 at 10:51, Susan Harkins wrote: > A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- probably > is, you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the document > you're using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop the source > file. Does anyone know if you can do that? > > I need a good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If > Office would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's > all I need! > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Aug 9 13:50:52 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 04:50:52 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature In-Reply-To: References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p>, , Message-ID: <4C604E0C.32179.1826E77F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> No ned for PrtScn. Open Irfanview and hit "C", specify what capture options you want and click start. Then Ctrl+F11 does the capture ( unkess you have selected ."Custom Rectangle/Region capture" in which case it gives you a "capture cursor" immediately. -- Stuart On 9 Aug 2010 at 13:11, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > You can use irfanview to do the whole thing. First copy whatever > screen you need (PrtScn), the paste it into ifranview. Next use the > mouse to define the area you want to crop and then hit Control-C. You > can now paste the crop into any other application you want to work > with. > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:36 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert > Screenshot feature > > I use the Windows included PAINT accessory to crop. Paste the screen > capture into paint, crop it and then save. I don't need to do a lot of > it though. > > It saves as a BMP file though, which are pretty big. So I then use > IRFANVIEW to convert to JPG. > > http://www.irfanview.com > > GK > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Susan Harkins > wrote: > A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- > probably is, you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the > document you're using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop > the source file. Does anyone know if you can do that? > > I need a > good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If Office > would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's all I > need! > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Aug 9 13:53:04 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 04:53:04 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature In-Reply-To: References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p>, Message-ID: <4C604E90.12655.1828ED78@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Do the whole thing in Irfanview, including capture, crop, resample/reduce colour depth(if desired), convert. It's much simpler. -- Stuart On 9 Aug 2010 at 11:35, Gary Kjos wrote: > I use the Windows included PAINT accessory to crop. Paste the screen > capture into paint, crop it and then save. I don't need to do a lot of > it though. > > It saves as a BMP file though, which are pretty big. So I then use > IRFANVIEW to convert to JPG. > > http://www.irfanview.com > > GK > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Susan Harkins > wrote: > A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- > probably is, you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the > document you're using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop > the source file. Does anyone know if you can do that? > > I need a > good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If Office > would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's all I > need! > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Aug 9 16:56:46 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:56:46 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: Oh, I forgot about Paint -- what a good idea -- thank you! Susan H. >I use the Windows included PAINT accessory to crop. Paste the screen > capture into paint, crop it and then save. I don't need to do a lot of > it though. > > It saves as a BMP file though, which are pretty big. So I then use > IRFANVIEW to convert to JPG. > > http://www.irfanview.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Aug 9 13:57:21 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 04:57:21 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? In-Reply-To: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p> References: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <4C604F91.7411.182CD6BD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Based on "or in the Outlook Data File (.pst) for your account." I'd say you are reading it incorrectly. Just like mail folders, contacts, tasks etc - if you use an ES mailbox, it is stored there, if you use a .pst, it is stored there. -- Stuart On 9 Aug 2010 at 11:32, Susan Harkins wrote: > Outlook Contacts Auto-Complete List > The Auto-Complete List is a feature which displays suggestions for > names and e-mail addresses as you begin to type them. These > suggestions are possible matches from a list of names and e-mail > addresses from the e-mail messages that you have sent. > > In Outlook 2010, the Auto-Complete List file (.nk2) is discontinued. > The Auto-Complete List entries are now saved in your Microsoft > Exchange Server mailbox or in the Outlook Data File (.pst) for your > account. > > > > =========Have I read this correctly -- AutoComplete is available only > if you're on Exchange? I can't get it to work in my copy of Outlook > 2010 and can't find a setting to set it free! ;( > > > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From df.waters at comcast.net Mon Aug 9 14:04:36 2010 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:04:36 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook - Print 1st Page of an Email? Message-ID: <74C5127E409E40E7A8526C2FC624AD59@danwaters> Sometimes I want to print an email, but can't seem to find a way to print just the first page, short of only putting one page into the printer tray. Is there a way to control how many pages get printed? Thanks! Dan From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Aug 9 17:09:46 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:09:46 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? References: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p> <4C604F91.7411.182CD6BD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Okay, I'll keep looking, cause it isn't working for me. I must have glazed over the pst part though -- should've seen that myself. Susan H. > Based on "or in the Outlook Data File (.pst) for your account." I'd say > you are reading it > incorrectly. Just like mail folders, contacts, tasks etc - if you use an > ES mailbox, it is stored > there, if you use a .pst, it is stored there. > > From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Aug 9 14:51:20 2010 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:51:20 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook - Print 1st Page of an Email? In-Reply-To: <74C5127E409E40E7A8526C2FC624AD59@danwaters> References: <74C5127E409E40E7A8526C2FC624AD59@danwaters> Message-ID: Mine - Ver 2003 - comes up with a print dialog box that I can choose which printer and a number of copies and printer preferences and has a PRINT RANGE section that has ALL or SELECTION or CURRENT PAGE or PAGE RANGE options. GK On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Sometimes I want to print an email, but can't seem to find a way to print > just the first page, short of only putting one page into the printer tray. > > > > Is there a way to control how many pages get printed? > > > > Thanks! > > Dan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From df.waters at comcast.net Mon Aug 9 15:10:00 2010 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:10:00 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook - Print 1st Page of an Email? In-Reply-To: References: <74C5127E409E40E7A8526C2FC624AD59@danwaters> Message-ID: <1D987AD03B744A4283CBDC2D48FCD472@danwaters> That's just what mine does too. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:51 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook - Print 1st Page of an Email? Mine - Ver 2003 - comes up with a print dialog box that I can choose which printer and a number of copies and printer preferences and has a PRINT RANGE section that has ALL or SELECTION or CURRENT PAGE or PAGE RANGE options. GK On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Sometimes I want to print an email, but can't seem to find a way to print > just the first page, short of only putting one page into the printer tray. > > > > Is there a way to control how many pages get printed? > > > > Thanks! > > Dan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at sc.rr.com Mon Aug 9 18:13:25 2010 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 19:13:25 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? In-Reply-To: References: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p> <4C604F91.7411.182CD6BD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <000301cb3818$786979a0$693c6ce0$@rr.com> See if you can type part of the email address and then enter ALT-K and see if it completes the address. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 6:10 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? Okay, I'll keep looking, cause it isn't working for me. I must have glazed over the pst part though -- should've seen that myself. Susan H. > Based on "or in the Outlook Data File (.pst) for your account." I'd say > you are reading it > incorrectly. Just like mail folders, contacts, tasks etc - if you use an > ES mailbox, it is stored > there, if you use a .pst, it is stored there. > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Aug 9 21:32:27 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 19:32:27 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? References: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p> <4C604F91.7411.182CD6BD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <000301cb3818$786979a0$693c6ce0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <880BE67B339248BDB9CBBC30CEBFFEB8@salvationomc4p> Yes, it works -- I wonder why it doesn't show the dropdown list? I've only had the dropdown show up for one address. Okay... it doesn't show up until I use the address the first time -- I imported the address book. Thanks Bobby -- I'm going to use that in my blog -- I'd like to give you credit -- do you want me to include contact information or a career tag? You probably won't hear from anybody asking for help, but if you do contract work, it can't hurt to network a little. Susan H. > See if you can type part of the email address and then enter ALT-K and see > if it completes the address. > From bheid at sc.rr.com Mon Aug 9 20:24:27 2010 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 21:24:27 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? In-Reply-To: <880BE67B339248BDB9CBBC30CEBFFEB8@salvationomc4p> References: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p> <4C604F91.7411.182CD6BD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <000301cb3818$786979a0$693c6ce0$@rr.com> <880BE67B339248BDB9CBBC30CEBFFEB8@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <000601cb382a$c6a0a5f0$53e1f1d0$@rr.com> Hi Susan, I don't really do contract work, but you are welcome to use my name if you like. It is Bobby Heid. Thanks, Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:32 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? Yes, it works -- I wonder why it doesn't show the dropdown list? I've only had the dropdown show up for one address. Okay... it doesn't show up until I use the address the first time -- I imported the address book. Thanks Bobby -- I'm going to use that in my blog -- I'd like to give you credit -- do you want me to include contact information or a career tag? You probably won't hear from anybody asking for help, but if you do contract work, it can't hurt to network a little. Susan H. > See if you can type part of the email address and then enter ALT-K and see > if it completes the address. > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Aug 10 13:16:19 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:16:19 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 Message-ID: <463B12924D14414CA704C164A283418C@salvationomc4p> Outlook 2010 is slow as molasses -- I'll be researching today to see what I can do, but if any of you would like to chime in, I'm listening! Susan H. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Aug 10 15:48:48 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:48:48 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 In-Reply-To: <463B12924D14414CA704C164A283418C@salvationomc4p> References: <463B12924D14414CA704C164A283418C@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <4C61BB30.1829.3D6D952@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Use a different email program? -- Stuart On 10 Aug 2010 at 11:16, Susan Harkins wrote: > Outlook 2010 is slow as molasses -- I'll be researching today to see > what I can do, but if any of you would like to chime in, I'm > listening! > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Aug 10 19:12:42 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:12:42 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 References: <463B12924D14414CA704C164A283418C@salvationomc4p> <4C61BB30.1829.3D6D952@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <525DB959090840C28C4A50A36CD91A5A@salvationomc4p> ha ha... since I write about it, I kind of need to use it! Susan H. > Use a different email program? > > -- > Stuart > > On 10 Aug 2010 at 11:16, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> Outlook 2010 is slow as molasses -- I'll be researching today to see >> what I can do, but if any of you would like to chime in, I'm >> listening! >> >> Susan H. >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Aug 11 10:25:21 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:25:21 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Mouse receiver Message-ID: Dear Lists: Someone gave me a nice HP wireless mouse but no receiver. Any know where I might find a receiver for it? It's got a bunch of numbers on the bottom but I can't figure out which one might be the model number. SCT RCPHPMR06-049 is one. CMI ID: 2005DJ1330 M/N: M-RAU95 HP SPARES: 417334-001 PID: LZ01A80113 Not having any luck with these number on the net. MTIA, Rocky From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Aug 11 12:20:45 2010 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:20:45 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Wireless Mouse receiver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm thinking it's probably a rebranded Logitech You can get the whole package here for $14 with Free Shipping so I wouldn't invest too much on it. http://cgi.ebay.ph/LOGITECH-Wireless-cordless-Optical-Mouse-831776-M-RAU95-/280459455378 GK http://shop.accessory4you.com/05-chanpin/p-001-1.asp?id=2936 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear Lists: > > Someone gave me a nice HP wireless mouse but no receiver. ?Any know where I > might find a receiver for it? It's got a bunch of numbers on the bottom but > I can't figure out which one might be the model number. > > SCT RCPHPMR06-049 is one. > > CMI ID: 2005DJ1330 > > M/N: M-RAU95 > > HP SPARES: 417334-001 > > PID: LZ01A80113 > > Not having any luck with these number on the net. > > MTIA, > > Rocky > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-OT mailing list > dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Aug 11 15:20:40 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:20:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Wireless Mouse receiver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6FE8A2A9698541CF8B6199F2234430FA@HAL9005> Looks suspiciously like mine. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:21 AM To: Off Topic Cc: List Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Wireless Mouse receiver I'm thinking it's probably a rebranded Logitech You can get the whole package here for $14 with Free Shipping so I wouldn't invest too much on it. http://cgi.ebay.ph/LOGITECH-Wireless-cordless-Optical-Mouse-831776-M-RAU95-/ 280459455378 GK http://shop.accessory4you.com/05-chanpin/p-001-1.asp?id=2936 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear Lists: > > Someone gave me a nice HP wireless mouse but no receiver. ?Any know > where I might find a receiver for it? It's got a bunch of numbers on > the bottom but I can't figure out which one might be the model number. > > SCT RCPHPMR06-049 is one. > > CMI ID: 2005DJ1330 > > M/N: M-RAU95 > > HP SPARES: 417334-001 > > PID: LZ01A80113 > > Not having any luck with these number on the net. > > MTIA, > > Rocky > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-OT mailing list > dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Aug 12 06:49:21 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:49:21 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2010 new Insert Screenshot feature In-Reply-To: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> References: <8335B4A509E045B59416FA71AF29DC07@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: Hello Susan, I brought Snagit about 6 months ago and while it is only slightly better than paint, I would not be without it. The flow of operation is nicer step 1) Press Screen shot on the kdb step 2) Highlight the area I want to capture step 3) Use the arrows and clouds to highlight what I am demonstrating to the user step 4) Save the file It makes the process of quickly capturing and highlighting a section of a screen so pleasing to produce that i use it more often that I ever previously did with Paint. Here are three links to quick files i produced - are they nice and useful? http://bit.ly/bTIJc1 http://bit.ly/bmCofz http://bit.ly/bu0aex I would recommend it highly as a productivity and quality of work improver. Mark On 9 August 2010 18:51, Susan Harkins wrote: > A few of the apps in Office 2010 let you take screenshots -- probably is, > you can't crop them. Well, you can crop them within the document you're > using them, but I can't find a way to actually crop the source file. Does > anyone know if you can do that? > > I need a good, cheap piece of software for snapping screenshots. If Office > would save the cropped picture, that would be fine -- that's all I need! > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Aug 12 06:56:01 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:56:01 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 In-Reply-To: <463B12924D14414CA704C164A283418C@salvationomc4p> References: <463B12924D14414CA704C164A283418C@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: Hello All I switched to gmail in Sept 2004 and have not used outloook since then. I never backup my email, or my contacts, and I have *41593* emails today and my storage have never risen above 50 % and I can search my emails globally. And I can search all 41k emails on my phone through the gmail GUI. And I have access to all my email and the GUI I am comfortable with on any computer. And I never worry about PST files. I cannot believe that the world is still downloading emails to local machines. Mark On 10 August 2010 19:16, Susan Harkins wrote: > Outlook 2010 is slow as molasses -- I'll be researching today to see what I > can do, but if any of you would like to chime in, I'm listening! > > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Aug 12 06:57:41 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:57:41 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Wireless Mouse receiver In-Reply-To: <6FE8A2A9698541CF8B6199F2234430FA@HAL9005> References: <6FE8A2A9698541CF8B6199F2234430FA@HAL9005> Message-ID: Hi Rocky, I have some experience with logitech receivers and they can sometimes support two or three different types of mouse, so if you can get any kind of a receiver, even from an older cheaper logitech mouse, it might just work for you. Mark On 11 August 2010 21:20, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Looks suspiciously like mine. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:21 AM > To: Off Topic > Cc: List > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Wireless Mouse receiver > > I'm thinking it's probably a rebranded Logitech > > You can get the whole package here for $14 with Free Shipping so I wouldn't > invest too much on it. > > > http://cgi.ebay.ph/LOGITECH-Wireless-cordless-Optical-Mouse-831776-M-RAU95-/ > 280459455378 > > GK > > http://shop.accessory4you.com/05-chanpin/p-001-1.asp?id=2936 > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Rocky Smolin > wrote: > > Dear Lists: > > > > Someone gave me a nice HP wireless mouse but no receiver. Any know > > where I might find a receiver for it? It's got a bunch of numbers on > > the bottom but I can't figure out which one might be the model number. > > > > SCT RCPHPMR06-049 is one. > > > > CMI ID: 2005DJ1330 > > > > M/N: M-RAU95 > > > > HP SPARES: 417334-001 > > > > PID: LZ01A80113 > > > > Not having any luck with these number on the net. > > > > MTIA, > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-OT mailing list > > dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-ot > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Aug 12 11:36:00 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:36:00 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question, from a reader Message-ID: <37065888E7CC49C6BD4C8FF97498EFCE@salvationomc4p> "Excel Find and Replace Defaults How do you permanently change the default values in the Options section of Find and Replace in Excel? I have to manually change the values EACH time I start Excel. Currently "Search:" is defaulted to "By Rows". I want the default to permanently be "By Columns". Currently "Look In:" is defaulted to "Formulas". I want the default to permanently be "Values". My suspicion is this can only be changed by a change in the program code because Microsoft in it's so-called wisdom decided this isn't important for users and failed to put in a "Set As Default" option that allows the user to set the default options desired." =========I haven't checked any options, but I suspect this can't be done -- maybe through a registry hack, but I don't think I recommend that to the average user. Might be simplier to just bypass the built-in interface and use a custom form to solicit the values. I do think this feature should be more flexible, and maybe it is -- I'll look a bit later, but if someone knows off the top of their head, please share! Thanks! Susan H. From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com Thu Aug 12 09:16:34 2010 From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:16:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question, from a reader In-Reply-To: <37065888E7CC49C6BD4C8FF97498EFCE@salvationomc4p> References: <37065888E7CC49C6BD4C8FF97498EFCE@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: I've been looking for an answer to that one for ages. Love to hear any solution. Though perhaps a simple AutoExec macro would do it. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:36 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question, from a reader "Excel Find and Replace Defaults How do you permanently change the default values in the Options section of Find and Replace in Excel? I have to manually change the values EACH time I start Excel. Currently "Search:" is defaulted to "By Rows". I want the default to permanently be "By Columns". Currently "Look In:" is defaulted to "Formulas". I want the default to permanently be "Values". My suspicion is this can only be changed by a change in the program code because Microsoft in it's so-called wisdom decided this isn't important for users and failed to put in a "Set As Default" option that allows the user to set the default options desired." =========I haven't checked any options, but I suspect this can't be done -- maybe through a registry hack, but I don't think I recommend that to the average user. Might be simplier to just bypass the built-in interface and use a custom form to solicit the values. I do think this feature should be more flexible, and maybe it is -- I'll look a bit later, but if someone knows off the top of their head, please share! Thanks! Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Aug 12 12:26:18 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:26:18 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel question, from a reader References: <37065888E7CC49C6BD4C8FF97498EFCE@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <017CBC524F96431F87DC317B98CB7640@salvationomc4p> I hadn't thought of that, and of course, you can always hit the Registry, programmatically, to set these types of options, especially when they're different for each user -- I had forgotten about that. Susan H. > I've been looking for an answer to that one for ages. Love to hear any > solution. Though perhaps a simple AutoExec macro would do it. > From rustykh at yahoo.com Thu Aug 12 11:36:39 2010 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 In-Reply-To: <4C5E9343.8070508@torchlake.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com> <4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com><4C5D5C9B.9070306@torchlake.com> <005C144E82474CD38B6BA6002A0A64C5@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C5E9343.8070508@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <871048.29380.qm@web65413.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Tina, Are you still having issue? Since you can now get to Tools/Internet Options. Have you gone to the Connections tab, then LAN Settings and made sure there is not a proxy server setup? If so, delete the information and uncheck the Use a proxy server ... option. I've seen this as a leftover from viruses before and the proxy server is doing the redirecting of sites. HTH Rusty ________________________________ From: Tina Norris Fields To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 6:21:39 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 Hi Jim, I've sent you the HiJackThis log from Brad's computer off-list. Thank you for looking it over for me. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina: > > It looks like it is going to take some personal intervention to remove this > virus. With IE, it takes its queues from a registry location where the > default or home page is stored so IE itself is probably not infected. > > What is happening is that a process is being run that pushes a new location > into registry and that is the same with 'blocked the access' to certain web > locations. Run Regedit and navigate to somewhere like this: > hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\internet explorer\... (from memory so > check). In this location is all the setting that control IE. A dozen weird > hacks can be pushed into this location. I would check "Main" In there is > stored all the search/default/load locations. These are most likely chanced. > Changing these will not give long term relief as the virus will do another > update and you are back where you started from. Now you have to find the > program that is doing the work. > > A sophisticated virus usually has a number of layers like an onion so > removing it is not easy. Just finding and removing the working virus usually > does not work as yet another segment of the program just replaces it and the > app that does the replacement very likely also has auto-restarting backup. > > First look at the list of startup location given to you by Hack-This. There > are only so many locations where apps will be automatically started. Check > out each of the auto-boot files. Rest assured one of your villains will be > there. It is carefully named so it sounds like a legitimate file but it is > not. I.E. named winex... sounds legit but it is fake. It may actually be > correctly named but will be placed in a wrong directory. > > When you find the culprit file and location you can delete it but that will > not solve your problem as virus will just rewrite itself at the next cycle > or reboot. I have fond a little trick to stopping the file from coming back. > > Go into notepad and save a file with the same name and to the same location > as the one you just deleted, then within file-explorer find the file you > just created and flag it read-only. > > This process of discovery and removal will be a bit trial and error as the > virus is not going to be simple to remove... after all it have defeated all > virus protection already. A tough virus usually has at least 3 to 5 > locations where it reboots from. > > After finishing you can go to the IE regiry on the offending computer, bring > up the IE registry settings as previously mentioned and do the same on your > laptop... cross-reference and fix any thing that seems out of place. > > If you have not already done so run a rootkit checker. Here is a good > location for getting information and possible Rootkit virus... > > http://www.pchell.com/support/rootkitremovaltools.shtml > > These are real tough nuts and they are not always successful removed. If you > have one and it can not be removed re-installation is the only solution. > > Another method for fixing Windows is to rebuild the OS which will set > everything back to initial install settings but all the data and info files > will be in place and still there. When rebooting with the original CD, do > not select the '...Recovery Console..." option, continue and select the > repair option "R". Note: that any missing SPs or updates will have to be > reinstalled. > > You can send me the Hack-this startup list and log files if you feel two > sets of eyes would be better than one. > > HTH > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:16 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 > > Back again, > > After looking at the huge number of dlls and other processes that > appeared to be connected to dwwin.exe, I opted for a different approach. > > Acting on Rusty's comment, I used the Vipre rescue and had it run a deep > scan. It found and cleaned 4 threat traces in the Registry. > IE7 would still not allow access to Windows update - I could get to lots > of Internet places, including microsoft.com, but anything that got close > to updating Windows resulted in the notice that IE could not display > that page, that I might not be connected to the Internet, etc. - not the > common page I usually see when IE really can't reach the Internet, but > one with messages in red font and enclosed in black-bordered boxes. > Also, the errant redirect continued to happen - there are about three > different ones that I saw more than once > - one looked like a local news page, but it is not something Brad chose > (http://www.news9today.net/money-news/latest-news.php?ex=002&tid=AOXUS1) > I've followed up on that one now, myself - it is an advertisement entry > point, if you try to select news, or politics, or anything from its > navigation bar, you are sent to a page to sign up for making lots of > money (A known bad url was replaced by VIPRE). > - one is a 'find single mates' invitation > (http://matelocal.com/2273/?subid=directcpv-preferred-1&affid=7167) > - one was an urgent notice that the PC is infected, click here to fix it > (looked very similar to the AntivirXP2009 that got my Dad's computer a > couple years ago). > Attempting to reach the Internet Options still yielded the message that > that operation was "canceled due to security restrictions on this > computer, please contact your system administrator." > > Persuaded that something was hijacking Brad's IE7, I downloaded > HiJackThis and ran that - I am not experienced at reading that log, but > I really didn't spot the culprit. If one of you is knowledgeable about > analyzing that log, and would be willing to look it over, please let me > know and I will pass it along to you. > > Since I could get to the Internet, I went to mozilla.com and downloaded > the current Firefox, installed it and used it to get to microsoft.com > where I downloaded IE8 for manual installation. Once IE8 was installed, > we had access to the Tools > Internet Options dialog box. Yay! But, we > still could not get to Windows update! And, the redirect still popped up. > > His OS was WinXP SP2, whose support ended July 13, 2010 - so, I searched > for how to get SP3 when I couldn't get to Windows update. I did finally > find a way to download that for manual installation. SP3 was > successfully installed yesterday after supper. But, guess what - this > morning, the redirect is still there, and IE cannot get to Windows > update, and, of course the old bugaboo "generic service host error" is > still popping up. > > This syndrome has to be an infection of some kind I'm thinking. Unless, > as Jim suggested, the corruption is in a location that cannot be > substituted and the only real solution is to get a new hard drive. Or, > perhaps this is a combination of things 1) a corruption at the boot > tracks, and 2) a hijacker of some sort. > > I'm ready to start pricing good SATA hard drives for Brad's computer. > He has to have a functional and reliable computer for his business > (don't we all?). But, it's very difficult for me to let go of a mystery > like this - I really want to solve it. Do you wizards have any more > good thoughts for me? What is redirecting Brad's IE browser? What is > preventing IE from getting to Windows update? What is calling the > svchost.exe error? > > Thanks again, > T > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Aug 13 00:45:02 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:45:02 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? In-Reply-To: References: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p>, Message-ID: <4C64DBDE.28077.6396058@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I wus wrong! Autocomplete isn't stored in the .pst. I've just come across this: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/outlook_nk2_edit.html NK2Edit v1.29 Every time that you type an email address or name in the message window of MS-Outlook, it automatically offer you a list of users and email address that you can choose. This feature is known as 'AutoComplete' and Outlook automatically build this emails list according to user activity and save it into a file with .NK2 extension. In some circumstances, you may need to fix or modify the values appeared in the AutoComplete list, or you may want to remove unwanted email addresses and/or to add new email addresses. MS-Outlook doesn't provide any ability to edit this AutoComplete list, so this is where NK2Edit software can help you. NK2Edit is a real NK2 editor that allows you to modify all fields in NK2 file, delete unwanted records, add new records, repair corrupted nk2 files, merge 2 or more NK2 files into a single NK2 file, and more... .... NK2Edit can read, write, and create NK2 files for Outlook 2003, Outlook 2007, and Outlook 2010 Beta. -- Stuart On 9 Aug 2010 at 15:09, Susan Harkins wrote: > Okay, I'll keep looking, cause it isn't working for me. I must have > glazed over the pst part though -- should've seen that myself. > > Susan H. > > > > Based on "or in the Outlook Data File (.pst) for your account." I'd > > say you are reading it incorrectly. Just like mail folders, > > contacts, tasks etc - if you use an ES mailbox, it is stored there, > > if you use a .pst, it is stored there. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From df.waters at comcast.net Fri Aug 13 08:00:15 2010 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:00:15 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove AutoComplete Emails Addresses from Outlook In-Reply-To: <4C64DBDE.28077.6396058@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p>, <4C64DBDE.28077.6396058@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <3642E4F85B084364B595E2374C0C1B3A@danwaters> You can delete these extra email addresses from Outlook. When you begin typing an email address and the list appears, use the down arrow key to select an email address. Then push the Delete button, and it's gone! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:45 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? I wus wrong! Autocomplete isn't stored in the .pst. I've just come across this: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/outlook_nk2_edit.html NK2Edit v1.29 Every time that you type an email address or name in the message window of MS-Outlook, it automatically offer you a list of users and email address that you can choose. This feature is known as 'AutoComplete' and Outlook automatically build this emails list according to user activity and save it into a file with .NK2 extension. In some circumstances, you may need to fix or modify the values appeared in the AutoComplete list, or you may want to remove unwanted email addresses and/or to add new email addresses. MS-Outlook doesn't provide any ability to edit this AutoComplete list, so this is where NK2Edit software can help you. NK2Edit is a real NK2 editor that allows you to modify all fields in NK2 file, delete unwanted records, add new records, repair corrupted nk2 files, merge 2 or more NK2 files into a single NK2 file, and more... .... NK2Edit can read, write, and create NK2 files for Outlook 2003, Outlook 2007, and Outlook 2010 Beta. -- Stuart On 9 Aug 2010 at 15:09, Susan Harkins wrote: > Okay, I'll keep looking, cause it isn't working for me. I must have > glazed over the pst part though -- should've seen that myself. > > Susan H. > > > > Based on "or in the Outlook Data File (.pst) for your account." I'd > > say you are reading it incorrectly. Just like mail folders, > > contacts, tasks etc - if you use an ES mailbox, it is stored there, > > if you use a .pst, it is stored there. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Aug 13 08:16:54 2010 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:16:54 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove AutoComplete Emails Addresses from Outlook In-Reply-To: <3642E4F85B084364B595E2374C0C1B3A@danwaters> References: <9F702CEC7C3042C6B5A949C10CBB6D00@salvationomc4p>, <4C64DBDE.28077.6396058@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <3642E4F85B084364B595E2374C0C1B3A@danwaters> Message-ID: Or for a more refreshing day, just delete the NK2 file, and start from scratch :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: 13 August 2010 14:00 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remove AutoComplete Emails Addresses from Outlook You can delete these extra email addresses from Outlook. When you begin typing an email address and the list appears, use the down arrow key to select an email address. Then push the Delete button, and it's gone! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:45 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] AutoComplete really gone in Outlook 2010? I wus wrong! Autocomplete isn't stored in the .pst. I've just come across this: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/outlook_nk2_edit.html NK2Edit v1.29 Every time that you type an email address or name in the message window of MS-Outlook, it automatically offer you a list of users and email address that you can choose. This feature is known as 'AutoComplete' and Outlook automatically build this emails list according to user activity and save it into a file with .NK2 extension. In some circumstances, you may need to fix or modify the values appeared in the AutoComplete list, or you may want to remove unwanted email addresses and/or to add new email addresses. MS-Outlook doesn't provide any ability to edit this AutoComplete list, so this is where NK2Edit software can help you. NK2Edit is a real NK2 editor that allows you to modify all fields in NK2 file, delete unwanted records, add new records, repair corrupted nk2 files, merge 2 or more NK2 files into a single NK2 file, and more... .... NK2Edit can read, write, and create NK2 files for Outlook 2003, Outlook 2007, and Outlook 2010 Beta. -- Stuart On 9 Aug 2010 at 15:09, Susan Harkins wrote: > Okay, I'll keep looking, cause it isn't working for me. I must have > glazed over the pst part though -- should've seen that myself. > > Susan H. > > > > Based on "or in the Outlook Data File (.pst) for your account." I'd > > say you are reading it incorrectly. Just like mail folders, > > contacts, tasks etc - if you use an ES mailbox, it is stored there, > > if you use a .pst, it is stored there. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 09:57:50 2010 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:57:50 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software Message-ID: I am brushing up on my mostly forgotten math, and seeking an app that can a) format math formulae correctly, and b) accept arguments and then solve the formulae. Anyone know of something that can do this? Now that I have officially retired, price or lack thereof is paramount, since it's only a hobby with me. Apparently research shows that the most effective way to stave off Alzheimer's is by constantly exercising the brain, to which end my retirement has led to many free hours that were previously spent writing software for clients. Now I'm learning Mandarin and Cantonese and reading stuff about molecular biology -- oh, and playing a few games of chess a day. I want to refresh my cobwebbed math grey cells. Arthur From tortise at paradise.net.nz Fri Aug 13 10:23:23 2010 From: tortise at paradise.net.nz (Tortise) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:23:23 +1200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software References: Message-ID: <16B820A01B62419BB875F7684B9755C5@dp2000xp> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:57 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software >I am brushing up on my mostly forgotten math, and seeking an app that can a) > format math formulae correctly, and b) accept arguments and then solve the > formulae. Anyone know of something that can do this? Now that I have > officially retired, price or lack thereof is paramount, since it's only a > hobby with me. > > Apparently research shows that the most effective way to stave off > Alzheimer's is by constantly exercising the brain, to which end my > retirement has led to many free hours that were previously spent writing > software for clients. Now I'm learning Mandarin and Cantonese and reading > stuff about molecular biology -- oh, and playing a few games of chess a day. > I want to refresh my cobwebbed math grey cells. > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ Arthur http://www.openoffice.org/product/math.html and http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors/MathObjects.pdf might meet a) while Open Office Calc may do b) for you. Also, a little more than you asked, ubuntu and its multitude of open source software may also appeal to the budget and prove a satisfactory armamentarium to ensure your brain remains well stimulated. Indeed you may like to write some open source stuff in your retirement! For example Base may well benefit from your massage based on your experience? I hope this is all you seek and more! My best wishes for your retirement! From jerbach at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 10:34:29 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:34:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Arthur - My husband Steven says: 'You could tell Arthur that he might try WolframAlpha.com. He could also purchase (if he can stand the monetary hit) Wolfram Mathematica Home Edition for $295. There are also a couple of Wolfram Mathematica web sites like http://functions.wolfram.com/ and http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.jsp. That second one has a nice calculus example right there on the home page.' Steven has calculus books among his recreational reading books on the nightstand. I figured he would have some suggestions for you! Janet Erbach On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I am brushing up on my mostly forgotten math, and seeking an app that can > a) > format math formulae correctly, and b) accept arguments and then solve the > formulae. Anyone know of something that can do this? Now that I have > officially retired, price or lack thereof is paramount, since it's only a > hobby with me. > > Apparently research shows that the most effective way to stave off > Alzheimer's is by constantly exercising the brain, to which end my > retirement has led to many free hours that were previously spent writing > software for clients. Now I'm learning Mandarin and Cantonese and reading > stuff about molecular biology -- oh, and playing a few games of chess a > day. > I want to refresh my cobwebbed math grey cells. > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 10:35:36 2010 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:35:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software In-Reply-To: <16B820A01B62419BB875F7684B9755C5@dp2000xp> References: <16B820A01B62419BB875F7684B9755C5@dp2000xp> Message-ID: Thanks for the tips. I've looked briefly at Base and thought, yes, not to brag, but I could bring a few things to their party, based on my experience. In the words Michael Corleone, "I keep trying to get out, but they keep dragging me back in." I have one remaining part-time client who asks for enhancements every two or three months. It's only pocket change and I like him immensely, and we've been doing this for about 5 years. Very complex app, whose success causes him to expand his geographical horizons, which expansion causes revisions dictated by Canadian provincial regulations: what I call a symbiotic relationship, LOL. I guess I won't be totally retired until I'm cremated, but the workload is definitely down to a few hours per fortnight, and I like it like that. Recently I acquired five seasons of "The Wire" on DVD. Not for everyone's taste, to be sure, but according to my taste-scheme, this is possibly the best dramatic series ever made for TV. I loved "The Sopranos" too, but this baby leaves it in the dust. But that's just my off-topic opinion. Forgive the senior moment :) Arthur Arthur On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Tortise wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:57 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software > > Arthur > > http://www.openoffice.org/product/math.html and > http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors/MathObjects.pdf > might meet a) while Open Office Calc may do b) for you. > > Also, a little more than you asked, ubuntu and its multitude of open source > software may also appeal to the budget and prove a > satisfactory armamentarium to ensure your brain remains well stimulated. > Indeed you may like to write some open source stuff in > your retirement! For example Base may well benefit from your massage > based on your experience? > > I hope this is all you seek and more! My best wishes for your retirement! > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 10:38:35 2010 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:38:35 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the reply. I'm aware of Mr. Wolfram and early on joined his New Science group, and I shall look into WolframAlpha.com. There's no way my retirement budget could stand a $300 hit. But I will look into the Unbuntu community for alternatives. Best regards, Arthur On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Janet Erbach wrote: > Arthur - > > My husband Steven says: > > 'You could tell Arthur that he might try WolframAlpha.com. He could also > purchase (if he can stand the monetary hit) Wolfram Mathematica Home > Edition > for $295. There are also a couple of Wolfram Mathematica web sites like > http://functions.wolfram.com/ and http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.jsp. > That second one has a nice calculus example right there on the home page.' > > Steven has calculus books among his recreational reading books on the > nightstand. I figured he would have some suggestions for you! > > Janet Erbach > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 10:44:36 2010 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:44:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Safari Message-ID: I just downloaded and installed the latest Safari browser, after reading an eWeek review. Apple claims it's the fastest browser currently available. I don't have every browser installed, but I'm running Chrome and Safari side by side and doing eyeball-comparisons of their page-load speed, and Safari is winning by an eyeball-perceptible margin. Not yet enough to persuade me, more research required, but it looks promising. FireFox stole me from IE, then Chrome stole me from FireFox, and possibly Safari might steal me from Chrome. The jury is still out. Arthur From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Aug 15 11:53:31 2010 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:53:31 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 In-Reply-To: <871048.29380.qm@web65413.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <4C59BAA2.7040800@torchlake.com><4C5C16F0.3010502@torchlake.com><4C5D5C9B.9070306@torchlake.com><005C144E82474CD38B6B A6002A0A64C5@creativesystemdesigns.com><4C5E9343.8070508@torchlake.com> <871048.29380.qm@web65413.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C681B8B.70600@torchlake.com> Thanks Rusty, I will check that. There are still issues, but at least the computer is functional and Brad is able to conduct his business. Jim gave an analysis of the HiJackThis log I had, with detailed instructions on what I can do to clean up that computer. Between Brad's schedule and mine, I have not yet taken care of that little chore. Thanks for checking up on me. I do appreciate it. T Rusty Hammond wrote: > Tina, > > Are you still having issue? Since you can now get to Tools/Internet Options. > Have you gone to the Connections tab, then LAN Settings and made sure there is > not a proxy server setup? If so, delete the information and uncheck the Use a > proxy server ... option. I've seen this as a leftover from viruses before and > the proxy server is doing the redirecting of sites. > > HTH > > Rusty > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tina Norris Fields > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 6:21:39 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 > > Hi Jim, > > I've sent you the HiJackThis log from Brad's computer off-list. Thank > you for looking it over for me. > > T > > Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> Hi Tina: >> >> It looks like it is going to take some personal intervention to remove this >> virus. With IE, it takes its queues from a registry location where the >> default or home page is stored so IE itself is probably not infected. >> >> What is happening is that a process is being run that pushes a new location >> into registry and that is the same with 'blocked the access' to certain web >> locations. Run Regedit and navigate to somewhere like this: >> hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\internet explorer\... (from memory so >> check). In this location is all the setting that control IE. A dozen weird >> hacks can be pushed into this location. I would check "Main" In there is >> stored all the search/default/load locations. These are most likely chanced. >> Changing these will not give long term relief as the virus will do another >> update and you are back where you started from. Now you have to find the >> program that is doing the work. >> >> A sophisticated virus usually has a number of layers like an onion so >> removing it is not easy. Just finding and removing the working virus usually >> does not work as yet another segment of the program just replaces it and the >> app that does the replacement very likely also has auto-restarting backup. >> >> First look at the list of startup location given to you by Hack-This. There >> are only so many locations where apps will be automatically started. Check >> out each of the auto-boot files. Rest assured one of your villains will be >> there. It is carefully named so it sounds like a legitimate file but it is >> not. I.E. named winex... sounds legit but it is fake. It may actually be >> correctly named but will be placed in a wrong directory. >> >> When you find the culprit file and location you can delete it but that will >> not solve your problem as virus will just rewrite itself at the next cycle >> or reboot. I have fond a little trick to stopping the file from coming back. >> >> Go into notepad and save a file with the same name and to the same location >> as the one you just deleted, then within file-explorer find the file you >> just created and flag it read-only. >> >> This process of discovery and removal will be a bit trial and error as the >> virus is not going to be simple to remove... after all it have defeated all >> virus protection already. A tough virus usually has at least 3 to 5 >> locations where it reboots from. >> >> After finishing you can go to the IE regiry on the offending computer, bring >> up the IE registry settings as previously mentioned and do the same on your >> laptop... cross-reference and fix any thing that seems out of place. >> >> If you have not already done so run a rootkit checker. Here is a good >> location for getting information and possible Rootkit virus... >> >> http://www.pchell.com/support/rootkitremovaltools.shtml >> >> These are real tough nuts and they are not always successful removed. If you >> have one and it can not be removed re-installation is the only solution. >> >> Another method for fixing Windows is to rebuild the OS which will set >> everything back to initial install settings but all the data and info files >> will be in place and still there. When rebooting with the original CD, do >> not select the '...Recovery Console..." option, continue and select the >> repair option "R". Note: that any missing SPs or updates will have to be >> reinstalled. >> >> You can send me the Hack-this startup list and log files if you feel two >> sets of eyes would be better than one. >> >> HTH >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris >> Fields >> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:16 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Svchost.exe error - Update 2 >> >> Back again, >> >> After looking at the huge number of dlls and other processes that >> appeared to be connected to dwwin.exe, I opted for a different approach. >> >> Acting on Rusty's comment, I used the Vipre rescue and had it run a deep >> scan. It found and cleaned 4 threat traces in the Registry. >> IE7 would still not allow access to Windows update - I could get to lots >> of Internet places, including microsoft.com, but anything that got close >> to updating Windows resulted in the notice that IE could not display >> that page, that I might not be connected to the Internet, etc. - not the >> common page I usually see when IE really can't reach the Internet, but >> one with messages in red font and enclosed in black-bordered boxes. >> Also, the errant redirect continued to happen - there are about three >> different ones that I saw more than once >> - one looked like a local news page, but it is not something Brad chose >> (http://www.news9today.net/money-news/latest-news.php?ex=002&tid=AOXUS1) >> I've followed up on that one now, myself - it is an advertisement entry >> point, if you try to select news, or politics, or anything from its >> navigation bar, you are sent to a page to sign up for making lots of >> money (A known bad url was replaced by VIPRE). >> - one is a 'find single mates' invitation >> (http://matelocal.com/2273/?subid=directcpv-preferred-1&affid=7167) >> - one was an urgent notice that the PC is infected, click here to fix it >> (looked very similar to the AntivirXP2009 that got my Dad's computer a >> couple years ago). >> Attempting to reach the Internet Options still yielded the message that >> that operation was "canceled due to security restrictions on this >> computer, please contact your system administrator." >> >> Persuaded that something was hijacking Brad's IE7, I downloaded >> HiJackThis and ran that - I am not experienced at reading that log, but >> I really didn't spot the culprit. If one of you is knowledgeable about >> analyzing that log, and would be willing to look it over, please let me >> know and I will pass it along to you. >> >> Since I could get to the Internet, I went to mozilla.com and downloaded >> the current Firefox, installed it and used it to get to microsoft.com >> where I downloaded IE8 for manual installation. Once IE8 was installed, >> we had access to the Tools > Internet Options dialog box. Yay! But, we >> still could not get to Windows update! And, the redirect still popped up. >> >> His OS was WinXP SP2, whose support ended July 13, 2010 - so, I searched >> for how to get SP3 when I couldn't get to Windows update. I did finally >> find a way to download that for manual installation. SP3 was >> successfully installed yesterday after supper. But, guess what - this >> morning, the redirect is still there, and IE cannot get to Windows >> update, and, of course the old bugaboo "generic service host error" is >> still popping up. >> >> This syndrome has to be an infection of some kind I'm thinking. Unless, >> as Jim suggested, the corruption is in a location that cannot be >> substituted and the only real solution is to get a new hard drive. Or, >> perhaps this is a combination of things 1) a corruption at the boot >> tracks, and 2) a hijacker of some sort. >> >> I'm ready to start pricing good SATA hard drives for Brad's computer. >> He has to have a functional and reliable computer for his business >> (don't we all?). But, it's very difficult for me to let go of a mystery >> like this - I really want to solve it. Do you wizards have any more >> good thoughts for me? What is redirecting Brad's IE browser? What is >> preventing IE from getting to Windows update? What is calling the >> svchost.exe error? >> >> Thanks again, >> T >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Mon Aug 16 19:27:33 2010 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:27:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software References: Message-ID: Arthur, I believe there is an open source/free software package out there similar to SPSS...Those who are retiring and cleaning out are coming up with all sorts of stuff. I'll ask tomprrow. BTW We had a unit head meeting today and the associate commissioner I think wa blindsided by ALL the negative critism of his proposed reorganization. Folks were really pissed off. I'm thinking of proposing my own thoughts of a reorg. with the unit heads. Nothing to lose. ________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Arthur Fuller Sent: Fri 8/13/2010 11:38 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software Thanks for the reply. I'm aware of Mr. Wolfram and early on joined his New Science group, and I shall look into WolframAlpha.com. There's no way my retirement budget could stand a $300 hit. But I will look into the Unbuntu community for alternatives. Best regards, Arthur On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Janet Erbach wrote: > Arthur - > > My husband Steven says: > > 'You could tell Arthur that he might try WolframAlpha.com. He could also > purchase (if he can stand the monetary hit) Wolfram Mathematica Home > Edition > for $295. There are also a couple of Wolfram Mathematica web sites like > http://functions.wolfram.com/ and http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.jsp. > That second one has a nice calculus example right there on the home page.' > > Steven has calculus books among his recreational reading books on the > nightstand. I figured he would have some suggestions for you! > > Janet Erbach > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Mon Aug 16 19:50:49 2010 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:50:49 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C69DCE9.5080603@earthlink.net> Arthur, Some open source Mathematica alternatives are listed at http://www.osalt.com/mathematica. P. ----- On 8/13/2010 9:57 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I am brushing up on my mostly forgotten math, and seeking an app that can a) > format math formulae correctly, and b) accept arguments and then solve the > formulae. Anyone know of something that can do this? Now that I have > officially retired, price or lack thereof is paramount, since it's only a > hobby with me. > > Apparently research shows that the most effective way to stave off > Alzheimer's is by constantly exercising the brain, to which end my > retirement has led to many free hours that were previously spent writing > software for clients. Now I'm learning Mandarin and Cantonese and reading > stuff about molecular biology -- oh, and playing a few games of chess a day. > I want to refresh my cobwebbed math grey cells. > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Aug 17 08:57:00 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:57:00 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Safari In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Arthur, I had a similar journey IE - FF - Chrome. But now I am back to FF as some sites do not work so well on Chrome and the problem is it takes me a few hours to realise that it is Chrome that is wrong. I recently made some speed tweeks to FF that I came across on twitter. Some say they are great, but I cannot say yes or no. I do know that I like FF a lot. Interestingly, I cannot log int to twitter right now as it says it is "Over capacity". Mark On 13 August 2010 16:44, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I just downloaded and installed the latest Safari browser, after reading an > eWeek review. Apple claims it's the fastest browser currently available. I > don't have every browser installed, but I'm running Chrome and Safari side > by side and doing eyeball-comparisons of their page-load speed, and Safari > is winning by an eyeball-perceptible margin. Not yet enough to persuade me, > more research required, but it looks promising. FireFox stole me from IE, > then Chrome stole me from FireFox, and possibly Safari might steal me from > Chrome. The jury is still out. > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Aug 17 10:11:01 2010 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:11:01 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free "Mathematica" type software In-Reply-To: <4C69DCE9.5080603@earthlink.net> References: <4C69DCE9.5080603@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Thanks, P. I'll check them out and see what's there. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > Arthur, > > Some open source Mathematica alternatives are listed at > http://www.osalt.com/mathematica. > > P. > > From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Aug 23 14:13:24 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:13:24 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] A fine online audio mixing tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> As more and more application migrate themselves to the web here is one I found very interesting: http://aviary.com/tools/myna Check it out as it can be a lot of fun but it will replace a full mixing lab but the price, convenience and doing collaborative efforts can easier to take and do. Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Aug 24 18:34:51 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:34:51 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] 3-d style and 3-d rotation in Office 2007 and 2010 Message-ID: <0E7A811D4E494CAFACE098691086745B@salvationomc4p> I'm playing around with the above features and mine shapes and pictures just don't look like the gallery examples. They still look flat. Has anyone else played with this? I've seen it used, but I have no idea why my objects still look so flat. I've tried it on the Shapes (AutoShapes) and on an inserted picture of the ribbon. I used the latter because I've seen that effect used already. The rotation works Okay, but there's no depth. Any help? Susan H. From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com Wed Aug 25 07:49:34 2010 From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:49:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] 3-d style and 3-d rotation in Office 2007 and 2010 In-Reply-To: <0E7A811D4E494CAFACE098691086745B@salvationomc4p> References: <0E7A811D4E494CAFACE098691086745B@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: Susan, Does this not work the same as in Office 95 though 2003 (I don't have Office 2007)? You draw an object and then click the 3-d tool. The object then takes on a 3rd dimensions, but if you have not defined any depth it does not look any different. So you click on the 3-d tool again and a graphical menu appear, at the bottom of which is the textual choice "3-D Settings". Select that an you get another toolbar which has a depth button. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:35 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] 3-d style and 3-d rotation in Office 2007 and 2010 I'm playing around with the above features and mine shapes and pictures just don't look like the gallery examples. They still look flat. Has anyone else played with this? I've seen it used, but I have no idea why my objects still look so flat. I've tried it on the Shapes (AutoShapes) and on an inserted picture of the ribbon. I used the latter because I've seen that effect used already. The rotation works Okay, but there's no depth. Any help? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Aug 25 08:53:55 2010 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andrew Lacey) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:53:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Subform requery In-Reply-To: References: <0E7A811D4E494CAFACE098691086745B@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <882402043.184096.1282744435596.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxltgw15.schlund.de> Oh and there are no linking master/child fields ? ------------------------------- ? Congrats Jim. ? Ok to brighten a quiet week here's an actaul honest-to-goodness Access question ("Access, what's that?" I hear you mutter). ? Using A2K I have an unbound?form with some selection fields (2 combos, a check box). The form has a subform which shows certain records depending on what user selects in main form. Simple stuff. Only it doesn't work. In the AfterUpdate of the combos and check box is: ? me.sub1.form.requery ? Nothing happens. ? The subform works. If I change the Recordsource of teh subform to prompt for the info rather than read it from the main form it works. Yet it must recognise the references to the main form because it doesn't ask me for any parameters (which it does, for example, if the main form isn't even open). This is trivial stuff. I've done it a million times in my old A97 db but I cannot get that subform to respond. Is this an A2k bug or what? Help. ? Cheers ? Andy From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Aug 25 09:01:56 2010 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andrew Lacey) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:01:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Subform requery In-Reply-To: <882402043.184096.1282744435596.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxltgw15.schlund.de> References: <0E7A811D4E494CAFACE098691086745B@salvationomc4p> <882402043.184096.1282744435596.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxltgw15.schlund.de> Message-ID: <267938728.184911.1282744916305.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxltgw15.schlund.de> Oh heck, forget it. Just a common-or-garden mistake on my part. Sorry if I woke anyone up. ? Andy ? On 25 August 2010 at 15:53 Andrew Lacey wrote: > Oh and there are no linking master/child fields > ? > ------------------------------- > ? > > Congrats Jim. > ? > Ok to brighten a quiet week here's an actaul honest-to-goodness Access > question > ("Access, what's that?" I hear you mutter). > ? > Using A2K I have an unbound?form with some selection fields (2 combos, a check > box). The form has a subform which shows certain records depending on what > user > selects in main form. Simple stuff. Only it doesn't work. In the AfterUpdate > of > the combos and check box is: > ? > me.sub1.form.requery > ? > Nothing happens. > ? > The subform works. If I change the Recordsource of teh subform to prompt for > the > info rather than read it from the main form it works. Yet it must recognise > the > references to the main form because it doesn't ask me for any parameters > (which > it does, for example, if the main form isn't even open). This is trivial > stuff. > I've done it a million times in my old A97 db but I cannot get that subform to > respond. Is this an A2k bug or what? Help. > ? > Cheers > ? > Andy > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Aug 25 09:31:48 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:31:48 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Subform requery Message-ID: Hi Andy Just make your comboboxes and checkbox part of the master fields and update should happen automagically. /gustav >>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 25-08-2010 16:01 >>> Oh heck, forget it. Just a common-or-garden mistake on my part. Sorry if I woke anyone up. * Andy * On 25 August 2010 at 15:53 Andrew Lacey wrote: > Oh and there are no linking master/child fields From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Aug 25 15:04:18 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:04:18 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] 3-d style and 3-d rotation in Office 2007 and 2010 References: <0E7A811D4E494CAFACE098691086745B@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <02D9F733FE424175843FDEE8D7C9EBBA@salvationomc4p> Thanks Lambert -- I'll take a look. Susan H. > Susan, > > Does this not work the same as in Office 95 though 2003 (I don't have > Office 2007)? > > You draw an object and then click the 3-d tool. The object then takes on a > 3rd dimensions, but if you have not defined any depth it does not look any > different. So you click on the 3-d tool again and a graphical menu appear, > at the bottom of which is the textual choice "3-D Settings". Select that > an you get another toolbar which has a depth button. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:35 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] 3-d style and 3-d rotation in Office 2007 and 2010 > > I'm playing around with the above features and mine shapes and pictures > just don't look like the gallery examples. They still look flat. Has > anyone else played with this? I've seen it used, but I have no idea why my > objects still look so flat. > > I've tried it on the Shapes (AutoShapes) and on an inserted picture of the > ribbon. I used the latter because I've seen that effect used already. The > rotation works Okay, but there's no depth. > > Any help? > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Aug 25 19:07:59 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:07:59 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] CSS overload In-Reply-To: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: If anyone thought CSS could not be overdone here is a link that proves that point: http://www.subcide.com/experiments/fail-whale/ Oh yes, don't even try this IE...please only use modern browers. (FF works best) Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Aug 25 20:21:28 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:21:28 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Lightswitch rollout In-Reply-To: References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Here is a good chance to see if Microsoft's new product LightSwitch is really a .Net replacement for MS Access. It beta version is ready for downloading: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-starts-beta-1-rollout-of-new-l ightswitch-dev-tool/7168 and http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=37551a54-bfd3-4af6- a513-676bbb2dfb69&displaylang=en Jim From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Aug 25 20:43:17 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:43:17 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] CSS overload In-Reply-To: References: , <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com>, Message-ID: <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> FF isn't best for me on this one IE 8 --- real crappy block graphics FF 3.6 --- good detail but static graphics Chrome --- good detail and animated graphics -- Stuart On 25 Aug 2010 at 17:07, Jim Lawrence wrote: > If anyone thought CSS could not be overdone here is a link that proves > that point: > > http://www.subcide.com/experiments/fail-whale/ > > Oh yes, don't even try this IE...please only use modern browers. (FF > works best) > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Aug 26 12:38:47 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:38:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] CSS overload In-Reply-To: <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <220EFD3B638D4E43BDB522D50B7D6C48@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Stuart: I think all the newer browsers can display fine. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:43 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CSS overload FF isn't best for me on this one IE 8 --- real crappy block graphics FF 3.6 --- good detail but static graphics Chrome --- good detail and animated graphics -- Stuart On 25 Aug 2010 at 17:07, Jim Lawrence wrote: > If anyone thought CSS could not be overdone here is a link that proves > that point: > > http://www.subcide.com/experiments/fail-whale/ > > Oh yes, don't even try this IE...please only use modern browers. (FF > works best) > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Aug 26 12:40:45 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:40:45 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] CSS overload In-Reply-To: <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> It seems that you can now connect to a regular phone via a GMail component. I have not checked it all out yet but at first blush it looks good. http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/call-phones-from-gmail.html Jim From rustykh at yahoo.com Thu Aug 26 13:03:48 2010 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] CSS overload In-Reply-To: <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <685198.79862.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I've also heard, but haven't checked it out yet, that with android based smartphones, you can use this feature to make calls and it doesn't count against your mobile plan minutes. True, it would use your data minutes, but you can choose to have your phone connect to your home, or any other available, wireless network and go through that connection. My head is kind of spinning thinking about it, but basically, I can connect my cell phone to my home wireless network, and use this gmail feature to make hours long phone calls without worry of using up my mobile phone minutes or going over my data plan limits. ________________________________ From: Jim Lawrence To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 12:40:45 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CSS overload It seems that you can now connect to a regular phone via a GMail component. I have not checked it all out yet but at first blush it looks good. http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/call-phones-from-gmail.html Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Aug 26 15:01:34 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:01:34 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] GMail and Android phone In-Reply-To: <685198.79862.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> <685198.79862.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <674EFC14F54947C0962C6FC80A40CD2E@creativesystemdesigns.com> That does sound like a definite plus and it would make it an excellent reason for going Android... but I will have to hear of someone actually using it before I jump. I have been told if I move to Vancouver there will be a lot more work for me... so I have been thinking of maybe renting from a daughter and staying there during the week if what you have been hearing is true it would be a great reason think new Android phone. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CSS overload I've also heard, but haven't checked it out yet, that with android based smartphones, you can use this feature to make calls and it doesn't count against your mobile plan minutes. True, it would use your data minutes, but you can choose to have your phone connect to your home, or any other available, wireless network and go through that connection. My head is kind of spinning thinking about it, but basically, I can connect my cell phone to my home wireless network, and use this gmail feature to make hours long phone calls without worry of using up my mobile phone minutes or going over my data plan limits. ________________________________ From: Jim Lawrence To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 12:40:45 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CSS overload It seems that you can now connect to a regular phone via a GMail component. I have not checked it all out yet but at first blush it looks good. http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/call-phones-from-gmail.html Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From phil.rosenkranz at co.yakima.wa.us Thu Aug 26 15:17:07 2010 From: phil.rosenkranz at co.yakima.wa.us (Phil Rosenkranz) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:17:07 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] GMail and Android phone In-Reply-To: <674EFC14F54947C0962C6FC80A40CD2E@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> <685198.79862.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <674EFC14F54947C0962C6FC80A40CD2E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Using Verizon, I have set my google phone number as a member of my friends and family list, which I can call to without using my plan minutes. http://www.wikihow.com/Call-Phones-from-Gmail PR Phil Rosenkranz | Program Coordinator/Applications Specialist | Yakima County Public Services Direct 509.574.2250 | Toll Free 800.572.7354 | Fax 509.574.2301 -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:02 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] GMail and Android phone That does sound like a definite plus and it would make it an excellent reason for going Android... but I will have to hear of someone actually using it before I jump. I have been told if I move to Vancouver there will be a lot more work for me... so I have been thinking of maybe renting from a daughter and staying there during the week if what you have been hearing is true it would be a great reason think new Android phone. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CSS overload I've also heard, but haven't checked it out yet, that with android based smartphones, you can use this feature to make calls and it doesn't count against your mobile plan minutes. True, it would use your data minutes, but you can choose to have your phone connect to your home, or any other available, wireless network and go through that connection. My head is kind of spinning thinking about it, but basically, I can connect my cell phone to my home wireless network, and use this gmail feature to make hours long phone calls without worry of using up my mobile phone minutes or going over my data plan limits. ________________________________ From: Jim Lawrence To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 12:40:45 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CSS overload It seems that you can now connect to a regular phone via a GMail component. I have not checked it all out yet but at first blush it looks good. http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/call-phones-from-gmail.html Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Aug 26 15:23:01 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:23:01 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] GMail and Android phone In-Reply-To: References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> <685198.79862.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <674EFC14F54947C0962C6FC80A40CD2E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4CB4089368EF4188A8E77E4F27122E6D@creativesystemdesigns.com> That's excellent... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Phil Rosenkranz Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:17 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] GMail and Android phone Using Verizon, I have set my google phone number as a member of my friends and family list, which I can call to without using my plan minutes. http://www.wikihow.com/Call-Phones-from-Gmail PR Phil Rosenkranz | Program Coordinator/Applications Specialist | Yakima County Public Services Direct 509.574.2250 | Toll Free 800.572.7354 | Fax 509.574.2301 -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:02 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] GMail and Android phone That does sound like a definite plus and it would make it an excellent reason for going Android... but I will have to hear of someone actually using it before I jump. I have been told if I move to Vancouver there will be a lot more work for me... so I have been thinking of maybe renting from a daughter and staying there during the week if what you have been hearing is true it would be a great reason think new Android phone. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CSS overload I've also heard, but haven't checked it out yet, that with android based smartphones, you can use this feature to make calls and it doesn't count against your mobile plan minutes. True, it would use your data minutes, but you can choose to have your phone connect to your home, or any other available, wireless network and go through that connection. My head is kind of spinning thinking about it, but basically, I can connect my cell phone to my home wireless network, and use this gmail feature to make hours long phone calls without worry of using up my mobile phone minutes or going over my data plan limits. ________________________________ From: Jim Lawrence To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 12:40:45 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CSS overload It seems that you can now connect to a regular phone via a GMail component. I have not checked it all out yet but at first blush it looks good. http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/call-phones-from-gmail.html Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Aug 27 18:59:02 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:59:02 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The fate of Microsoft In-Reply-To: <4CB4089368EF4188A8E77E4F27122E6D@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> <685198.79862.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <674EFC14F54947C0962C6FC80A40CD2E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4CB4089368EF4188A8E77E4F27122E6D@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <27FF57A6A65440F4AC7E0DD8D56306AB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Microsoft, regardless of all the controversy to the contrary, built a wonderful system. Unfortunately, the core system was designed as a single user, single tasking operating system. Its PCs were never meant to be a connected together through a network or a remote session let alone the web. The Unix OS on the other hand was built for that exact purpose. Right from the getgo it was designed to be a fully virtual system, multi-tasking and multi-user. Linux of course followed suit. Each user is totally isolated from one another, each set of processes is totally isolated, and there are limitations around how much access a user can have. The core or kernel operating system is completely isolated from users and separated from the processes. These methods and understanding were designed into the operating from its conception. The Microsoft OS came from a different direction and now they are having to play catch-up... the costs to do that are massive. (Take Vista for example) Why do you think, when Steve Jobs, was faced the prospects of re-building the Mac OS, from a single user system up to the new order, decided instead, of starting over again, to take the BSD OS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution) and build a fancy presentation manager on top. My mother always said to me, "Never build a house while you're living in it." That is exactly what Microsoft is trying to do. The truth is, when Microsoft finally and completely fixes its OS, it will work just like another distro of Linux. Ah, the cruel ironies. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Aug 31 01:35:39 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:35:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bound web databases? In-Reply-To: <27FF57A6A65440F4AC7E0DD8D56306AB@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> <685198.79862.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <674EFC14F54947C0962C6FC80A40CD2E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4CB4089368EF4188A8E77E4F27122E6D@creativesystemdesigns.com> <27FF57A6A65440F4AC7E0DD8D56306AB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: I received this link and felt it was worth sharing. There is a new technology which is being developed that can allow remote internet linked tables to be connected so close that it may appear that the LANs that are using this technology are in fact using 'bound' tables. The current state-of-the-art links Databases over the web use AJAX to poll data changes on remote stations. As the number of users goes up the impact of the servers of course increases. The debtamental increase is not nearly as dramatic as the older OOPS type database systems where the spawning of multiple threads can quickly eat up system resources. Regardless, as users increase, any continuious connection process impacts your servers. Enter a new technology called Node.js. This development promises to provide multi-server connections, higher data polling and minimum impact of the servers. Sounds incredible? Check it out: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2010/07/13/node-js-is-the-new-black/ ...and... http://nodejs.org/ and http://nodejs.org/#about Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Aug 31 05:51:47 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:51:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bound web databases? In-Reply-To: References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> <685198.79862.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <674EFC14F54947C0962C6FC80A40CD2E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4CB4089368EF4188A8E77E4F27122E6D@creativesystemdesigns.com> <27FF57A6A65440F4AC7E0DD8D56306AB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <7C86E6B1BA034B86A86CBB3F00E6DFA8@creativesystemdesigns.com> A note: debtamental = detrimental and continuious = continuous... I should have looked over the spelling before hitting the send button... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:36 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Bound web databases? I received this link and felt it was worth sharing. There is a new technology which is being developed that can allow remote internet linked tables to be connected so close that it may appear that the LANs that are using this technology are in fact using 'bound' tables. The current state-of-the-art links Databases over the web use AJAX to poll data changes on remote stations. As the number of users goes up the impact of the servers of course increases. The debtamental increase is not nearly as dramatic as the older OOPS type database systems where the spawning of multiple threads can quickly eat up system resources. Regardless, as users increase, any continuious connection process impacts your servers. Enter a new technology called Node.js. This development promises to provide multi-server connections, higher data polling and minimum impact of the servers. Sounds incredible? Check it out: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2010/07/13/node-js-is-the-new-black/ ...and... http://nodejs.org/ and http://nodejs.org/#about Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Aug 31 10:12:24 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:12:24 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is Java about to decline? In-Reply-To: <7C86E6B1BA034B86A86CBB3F00E6DFA8@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <8890CCAF23B748FB82C909A79CE8F704@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4C75C6B5.16758.3C0236B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4C0C6977D5DB4CD59481F0A2897B6AB2@creativesystemdesigns.com> <685198.79862.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <674EFC14F54947C0962C6FC80A40CD2E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4CB4089368EF4188A8E77E4F27122E6D@creativesystemdesigns.com> <27FF57A6A65440F4AC7E0DD8D56306AB@creativesystemdesigns.com> <7C86E6B1BA034B86A86CBB3F00E6DFA8@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <73488EA1A1F8436A991CE2BAC970F50E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Some people seem to think that Java and the fighting between Oracle and Google spells the end of the Java world. http://pvarhol.wordpress.com/2010/08/30/the-twilight-of-java/ What do you think? Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Aug 31 19:05:44 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:05:44 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel protection question Message-ID: I've run into a peculiar problem with an Excel sheet. I'm using Forms option buttons in a group box -- in a protected sheet. Unfortunately, if I don't unlock the linked cell (linked to the option buttons), I can't click the option buttons themselves. Okay, so I unlock the linked cell, but then, in protect mode, Excel selects that cell. I don't want to select that cell -- I want Excel to select the first cell in an input range and ignore that I've unlocked that linked cell. Any advice? Susan H.