From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 07:20:42 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:20:42 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4b66d546.1701d00a.08de.1750@mx.google.com> Will it run Access? Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: 01 February 2010 01:40 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be reached? The following article discusses this inedibility. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar ticle1449339 Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Feb 1 07:44:10 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:44:10 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups Message-ID: Hi all Just to add to the variety or confusion, the RoboCopy and its GUI seems to have a predecessor, RichCopy: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2009.04.utilityspotlight.aspx?pr=blog No less than (quote) "the answer to all your file copying needs"! /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Feb 1 08:35:26 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:35:26 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <4b66d546.1701d00a.08de.1750@mx.google.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4b66d546.1701d00a.08de.1750@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I forgot about the Access law... I guess so, at least until Access version 2029. I wonder if I will be able to afford a computer like the IBM machine, Blue Waters?...it would make a great desktop. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:21 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? Will it run Access? Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: 01 February 2010 01:40 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be reached? The following article discusses this inedibility. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar ticle1449339 Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 08:57:49 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:57:49 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4b66d546.1701d00a.08de.1750@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4b66ec10.1818d00a.6b45.73b2@mx.google.com> Oh, that's ok then. Have to get my priorities in order. Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: 01 February 2010 14:35 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? I forgot about the Access law... I guess so, at least until Access version 2029. I wonder if I will be able to afford a computer like the IBM machine, Blue Waters?...it would make a great desktop. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:21 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? Will it run Access? Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: 01 February 2010 01:40 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be reached? The following article discusses this inedibility. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar ticle1449339 Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jerbach at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 10:28:23 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:28:23 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002010828i1a237addxa8069e64f6191f25@mail.gmail.com> I'm waiting for the Quantum Computer, myself... On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be > reached? > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > ticle1449339 > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 10:36:55 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:36:55 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002010828i1a237addxa8069e64f6191f25@mail.gmail.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010828i1a237addxa8069e64f6191f25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b670352.1701d00a.7ef0.ffffaf10@mx.google.com> Thought that came out in the early 80's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QL Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach Sent: 01 February 2010 16:28 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? I'm waiting for the Quantum Computer, myself... On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be > reached? > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > ticle1449339 > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jerbach at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 10:43:12 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:43:12 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <4b670352.1701d00a.7ef0.ffffaf10@mx.google.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010828i1a237addxa8069e64f6191f25@mail.gmail.com> <4b670352.1701d00a.7ef0.ffffaf10@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002010843le004adat81f667e59b2223f5@mail.gmail.com> I didn't know about that one. I'm referring to a computer built using Quantum physics principles instead of standard circuitry. Not that I have any great understanding of what that REALLY means, but I'm hoping if I read about it enough it will start to sink in! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computer On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Thought that came out in the early 80's > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QL > > > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: 01 February 2010 16:28 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? > > I'm waiting for the Quantum Computer, myself... > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be > > reached? > > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > > > > > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > > ticle1449339 > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 11:08:45 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:08:45 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002010843le004adat81f667e59b2223f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010828i1a237addxa8069e64f6191f25@mail.gmail.com> <4b670352.1701d00a.7ef0.ffffaf10@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010843le004adat81f667e59b2223f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b670acb.1818d00a.6fde.2bcb@mx.google.com> I know Janet, I was trying to be funny. Not for the first time, I have failed..oh woe is me... Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach Sent: 01 February 2010 16:43 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? I didn't know about that one. I'm referring to a computer built using Quantum physics principles instead of standard circuitry. Not that I have any great understanding of what that REALLY means, but I'm hoping if I read about it enough it will start to sink in! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computer On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Thought that came out in the early 80's > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QL > > > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: 01 February 2010 16:28 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? > > I'm waiting for the Quantum Computer, myself... > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be > > reached? > > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > > > > > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > > ticle1449339 > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jerbach at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 11:35:39 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:35:39 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <4b670acb.1818d00a.6fde.2bcb@mx.google.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010828i1a237addxa8069e64f6191f25@mail.gmail.com> <4b670352.1701d00a.7ef0.ffffaf10@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010843le004adat81f667e59b2223f5@mail.gmail.com> <4b670acb.1818d00a.6fde.2bcb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002010935o61fbee36j873fdfa9dc63ef72@mail.gmail.com> Sorry! Sorry! Not for the first time have I failed to be astute! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > I know Janet, I was trying to be funny. > > Not for the first time, I have failed..oh woe is me... > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: 01 February 2010 16:43 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? > > I didn't know about that one. I'm referring to a computer built using > Quantum physics principles instead of standard circuitry. Not that I have > any great understanding of what that REALLY means, but I'm hoping if I read > about it enough it will start to sink in! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computer > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Max Wanadoo > wrote: > > > Thought that came out in the early 80's > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QL > > > > > > > > Max > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > > Sent: 01 February 2010 16:28 > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? > > > > I'm waiting for the Quantum Computer, myself... > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be > > > reached? > > > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > > > ticle1449339 > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 11:39:32 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:39:32 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002010935o61fbee36j873fdfa9dc63ef72@mail.gmail.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010828i1a237addxa8069e64f6191f25@mail.gmail.com> <4b670352.1701d00a.7ef0.ffffaf10@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010843le004adat81f667e59b2223f5@mail.gmail.com> <4b670acb.1818d00a.6fde.2bcb@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010935o61fbee36j873fdfa9dc63ef72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b671204.0a04d00a.5bdd.7020@mx.google.com> Haha! Well done. Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach Sent: 01 February 2010 17:36 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? Sorry! Sorry! Not for the first time have I failed to be astute! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > I know Janet, I was trying to be funny. > > Not for the first time, I have failed..oh woe is me... > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: 01 February 2010 16:43 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? > > I didn't know about that one. I'm referring to a computer built using > Quantum physics principles instead of standard circuitry. Not that I have > any great understanding of what that REALLY means, but I'm hoping if I read > about it enough it will start to sink in! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computer > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Max Wanadoo > wrote: > > > Thought that came out in the early 80's > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QL > > > > > > > > Max > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > > Sent: 01 February 2010 16:28 > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? > > > > I'm waiting for the Quantum Computer, myself... > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be > > > reached? > > > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > > > ticle1449339 > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Feb 1 12:06:53 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:06:53 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Adobe Flash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is Adobe Flash going to survive the next 5 years or will it be superceded by the full implementation of HTML 5, in all the major web browsers. Will Flash's fate also be reflected in the acceptance of SilverLite or does SilverLite fill another niche? http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/01/31/the-best-way-for-adobe-to-save-flash-is- by-killing-it Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Feb 1 12:18:40 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:18:40 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the info Gustav. I have been using the command based version for years now as at one point I was having intermittent file transfer problems with a client's flaky network and servers. It resilience was amazing, it solved the temporary problem and it could be easily deployed through batch files. I did not know that it came in a GUI version but with your link I will definitely use it more. It is a great exclusive snap-shot app but no real time syncing. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:44 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups Hi all Just to add to the variety or confusion, the RoboCopy and its GUI seems to have a predecessor, RichCopy: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2009.04.utilityspotlight.aspx?pr =blog No less than (quote) "the answer to all your file copying needs"! /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Feb 1 12:24:41 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:24:41 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002010843le004adat81f667e59b2223f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010828i1a237addxa8069e64f6191f25@mail.gmail.com> <4b670352.1701d00a.7ef0.ffffaf10@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002010843le004adat81f667e59b2223f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The Quantum chips capability to be in many states, not just one or zero, is very much like the human brain. (That is why we are confused so easily... ;-)) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:43 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? I didn't know about that one. I'm referring to a computer built using Quantum physics principles instead of standard circuitry. Not that I have any great understanding of what that REALLY means, but I'm hoping if I read about it enough it will start to sink in! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computer On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Thought that came out in the early 80's > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QL > > > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: 01 February 2010 16:28 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? > > I'm waiting for the Quantum Computer, myself... > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be > > reached? > > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > > > > > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > > ticle1449339 > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Feb 2 22:34:09 2010 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:34:09 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Adobe Flash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01b301caa48a$213d5470$63b7fd50$@net> We can only hope. From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Feb 3 11:52:44 2010 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:52:44 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] hardware teo start playing with vmware Message-ID: At $400US would this be reasonable hardware for VMWare ESXI to virtualise a WinXP instance, a WinServer2003 instance, and a couple of Linux installations, plus a bit to play with, or am I thinking too small? a.. XFX nForce 750i SLI Motherboard b.. Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400 Processor c.. Patriot 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Desktop Memory Upgrade d.. Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 Hard Drive (750GB) e.. EVGA GeForce 9500 GT Video Card f.. Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case g.. Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply PB From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Feb 3 15:08:36 2010 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:08:36 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] hardware teo start playing with vmware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd1002031308r7082c04eq9e8fdabdce1827b5@mail.gmail.com> Sounds good to me. Sounds like a lovely assembly. A. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > At $400US would this be reasonable hardware for VMWare ESXI to virtualise a > WinXP instance, a WinServer2003 instance, and a couple of Linux > installations, plus a bit to play with, or am I thinking too small? > a.. XFX nForce 750i SLI Motherboard > b.. Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400 Processor > c.. Patriot 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Desktop Memory Upgrade > d.. Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 Hard Drive (750GB) > e.. EVGA GeForce 9500 GT Video Card > f.. Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case > g.. Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply > PB > From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Feb 3 15:55:39 2010 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:55:39 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] hardware teo start playing with vmware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47DDC781A4A14F31BBF8AB3FCEBE42A2@danwaters> Hi Peter, I built a PC about 2 years ago - it was fun! Let me suggest a higher power CPU. Take a look at: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 3 GHz 1333MHz 6 MB LGA775 CPU BX80570E8400 It's about $80 more, is the 3rd highest volume seller on Amazon, and seems to be more of a match to the other seemingly higher end components you are using. The bus speed for this one is 25% higher than for the Pentium, and this is a difference you'll see. Also, each cpu comes with a cpu cooling fan. But these are noisy and don't cool as well as they could, primarily because they are fighting the airflow of the case which typically will use fans to move air from front to back. If you get a cooler like the Kingwin XT964 (I'm suggesting this only as an example of a good configuration), which is inline with the airflow from front to back, your system will be quieter (your motherboard will speed up the fans if components get warmer) and cooler. Good cooling will allow your components to last longer. By the way, I bought 2 Noctua fans to replace the ones my case came with. And never heard fan noise again. Honestly. Have a good time with this! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:53 AM To: dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] hardware teo start playing with vmware At $400US would this be reasonable hardware for VMWare ESXI to virtualise a WinXP instance, a WinServer2003 instance, and a couple of Linux installations, plus a bit to play with, or am I thinking too small? a.. XFX nForce 750i SLI Motherboard b.. Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400 Processor c.. Patriot 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Desktop Memory Upgrade d.. Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 Hard Drive (750GB) e.. EVGA GeForce 9500 GT Video Card f.. Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case g.. Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 3 16:18:47 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:18:47 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] hardware teo start playing with vmware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E7EF0D4B5F5429F8B72F795AA8DF112@creativesystemdesigns.com> Sweat... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:53 AM To: dba-tech Subject: [dba-Tech] hardware teo start playing with vmware At $400US would this be reasonable hardware for VMWare ESXI to virtualise a WinXP instance, a WinServer2003 instance, and a couple of Linux installations, plus a bit to play with, or am I thinking too small? a.. XFX nForce 750i SLI Motherboard b.. Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400 Processor c.. Patriot 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Desktop Memory Upgrade d.. Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 Hard Drive (750GB) e.. EVGA GeForce 9500 GT Video Card f.. Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case g.. Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Feb 3 19:22:57 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:22:57 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Software Message-ID: <34B664F58FC1469D8FB531ACE197EE75@HAL9005> SO my cousin - a prof at SDSU - can get Windows 7 Ultimate but is being told it's an upgrade. I want to convert my main development box, which is XP, to W7. IIUC, I can't use this version they've got because it's an upgrade and I'll need a full install. Si? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Pierce [mailto:pierce at sciences.sdsu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:41 PM To: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Subject: Software Please understand that I'm only a transmitter of words. I was at the SDSU Bookstore today. The out-of-the-box Windows 7 Ultimate is an upgrade. I explained what you said about Vista. I was told that it would work if I had a version of XP. All I had to do is make sure I had a 32 or 64 bit machine. Comments (pungent or otherwise) are welcome. SJP From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Feb 3 19:54:48 2010 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 19:54:48 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Software In-Reply-To: <34B664F58FC1469D8FB531ACE197EE75@HAL9005> References: <34B664F58FC1469D8FB531ACE197EE75@HAL9005> Message-ID: <81C5CBA40064438A990F1DDFF6B42C9A@danwaters> Per MS - Yes! http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/default.aspx?applyTTTracking=true Rocky - if you are positive that you'll never reinstall this OS onto a different PC, then you might consider the OEM version. It'll save you about $25 dollars vs. the W7 Ultimate upgrade. But this is for retail versions, not academic versions. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:23 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Software SO my cousin - a prof at SDSU - can get Windows 7 Ultimate but is being told it's an upgrade. I want to convert my main development box, which is XP, to W7. IIUC, I can't use this version they've got because it's an upgrade and I'll need a full install. Si? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Pierce [mailto:pierce at sciences.sdsu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:41 PM To: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Subject: Software Please understand that I'm only a transmitter of words. I was at the SDSU Bookstore today. The out-of-the-box Windows 7 Ultimate is an upgrade. I explained what you said about Vista. I was told that it would work if I had a version of XP. All I had to do is make sure I had a 32 or 64 bit machine. Comments (pungent or otherwise) are welcome. SJP _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Feb 3 20:16:01 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:16:01 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Software In-Reply-To: <81C5CBA40064438A990F1DDFF6B42C9A@danwaters> References: <34B664F58FC1469D8FB531ACE197EE75@HAL9005> <81C5CBA40064438A990F1DDFF6B42C9A@danwaters> Message-ID: <2C41679973174D069AB7F8F14B6924A9@HAL9005> Well the FAQ on the W7 page sez: I'm running Windows XP on my PC. Can I buy the upgrade version of Windows 7? Yes, you can buy the upgrade version of Windows 7, but you'll need to perform a custom installation. This means that you should back up all of your files to an external location and gather the installation discs or setup files for programs that you want to use with Windows 7. For detailed instructions, see Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7. Apparently I can use Windows Easy Transfer to move my files but all the programs need to be reinstalled. Link to Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7 gives a pretty detailed explanation. I just hate to mess with a stable system which my XP box is, but I really want W7. Popular wisdom on the list seems to be wait for SP1. Gives me a good reason to dither. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:55 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Software Per MS - Yes! http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/default.aspx?applyTTTracking=true Rocky - if you are positive that you'll never reinstall this OS onto a different PC, then you might consider the OEM version. It'll save you about $25 dollars vs. the W7 Ultimate upgrade. But this is for retail versions, not academic versions. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:23 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Software SO my cousin - a prof at SDSU - can get Windows 7 Ultimate but is being told it's an upgrade. I want to convert my main development box, which is XP, to W7. IIUC, I can't use this version they've got because it's an upgrade and I'll need a full install. Si? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Pierce [mailto:pierce at sciences.sdsu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:41 PM To: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Subject: Software Please understand that I'm only a transmitter of words. I was at the SDSU Bookstore today. The out-of-the-box Windows 7 Ultimate is an upgrade. I explained what you said about Vista. I was told that it would work if I had a version of XP. All I had to do is make sure I had a 32 or 64 bit machine. Comments (pungent or otherwise) are welcome. SJP _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Feb 3 21:14:09 2010 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:14:09 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] hardware teo start playing with vmware In-Reply-To: <47DDC781A4A14F31BBF8AB3FCEBE42A2@danwaters> References: <47DDC781A4A14F31BBF8AB3FCEBE42A2@danwaters> Message-ID: <4B6A3B81.2010301@earthlink.net> Dan, thanks! P. ----- Dan Waters wrote: > Hi Peter, > > I built a PC about 2 years ago - it was fun! > > Let me suggest a higher power CPU. Take a look at: > Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 3 GHz 1333MHz 6 MB LGA775 CPU BX80570E8400 > > It's about $80 more, is the 3rd highest volume seller on Amazon, and seems > to be more of a match to the other seemingly higher end components you are > using. The bus speed for this one is 25% higher than for the Pentium, and > this is a difference you'll see. > > Also, each cpu comes with a cpu cooling fan. But these are noisy and don't > cool as well as they could, primarily because they are fighting the airflow > of the case which typically will use fans to move air from front to back. > If you get a cooler like the Kingwin XT964 (I'm suggesting this only as an > example of a good configuration), which is inline with the airflow from > front to back, your system will be quieter (your motherboard will speed up > the fans if components get warmer) and cooler. Good cooling will allow your > components to last longer. > > By the way, I bought 2 Noctua fans to replace the ones my case came with. > And never heard fan noise again. Honestly. > > Have a good time with this! > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:53 AM > To: dba-tech > Subject: [dba-Tech] hardware teo start playing with vmware > > At $400US would this be reasonable hardware for VMWare ESXI to virtualise a > WinXP instance, a WinServer2003 instance, and a couple of Linux > installations, plus a bit to play with, or am I thinking too small? > a.. XFX nForce 750i SLI Motherboard > b.. Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400 Processor > c.. Patriot 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Desktop Memory Upgrade > d.. Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 Hard Drive (750GB) > e.. EVGA GeForce 9500 GT Video Card > f.. Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case > g.. Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply > PB > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2665 - Release Date: 02/03/10 08:09:00 > > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 4 02:40:01 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 00:40:01 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Software In-Reply-To: <2C41679973174D069AB7F8F14B6924A9@HAL9005> References: <34B664F58FC1469D8FB531ACE197EE75@HAL9005> <81C5CBA40064438A990F1DDFF6B42C9A@danwaters> <2C41679973174D069AB7F8F14B6924A9@HAL9005> Message-ID: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-t o-windows-7?86b548d8&T1=tab04 This might help... Then there are products like: http://www.zinstall.com Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Software Well the FAQ on the W7 page sez: I'm running Windows XP on my PC. Can I buy the upgrade version of Windows 7? Yes, you can buy the upgrade version of Windows 7, but you'll need to perform a custom installation. This means that you should back up all of your files to an external location and gather the installation discs or setup files for programs that you want to use with Windows 7. For detailed instructions, see Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7. Apparently I can use Windows Easy Transfer to move my files but all the programs need to be reinstalled. Link to Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7 gives a pretty detailed explanation. I just hate to mess with a stable system which my XP box is, but I really want W7. Popular wisdom on the list seems to be wait for SP1. Gives me a good reason to dither. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:55 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Software Per MS - Yes! http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/default.aspx?applyTTTracking=true Rocky - if you are positive that you'll never reinstall this OS onto a different PC, then you might consider the OEM version. It'll save you about $25 dollars vs. the W7 Ultimate upgrade. But this is for retail versions, not academic versions. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:23 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Software SO my cousin - a prof at SDSU - can get Windows 7 Ultimate but is being told it's an upgrade. I want to convert my main development box, which is XP, to W7. IIUC, I can't use this version they've got because it's an upgrade and I'll need a full install. Si? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Pierce [mailto:pierce at sciences.sdsu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:41 PM To: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Subject: Software Please understand that I'm only a transmitter of words. I was at the SDSU Bookstore today. The out-of-the-box Windows 7 Ultimate is an upgrade. I explained what you said about Vista. I was told that it would work if I had a version of XP. All I had to do is make sure I had a 32 or 64 bit machine. Comments (pungent or otherwise) are welcome. SJP _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 03:23:50 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:23:50 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Message-ID: Hello All, I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to dispense funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were in the spam folder of their recipient. I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of my gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of these lists? I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no easy way to get off such a list? If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use of the old domain name? Thanks for your suggestions and comments. Mark From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Feb 5 03:38:48 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:38:48 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B6BE728.17119.162C73EB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> It's more likely to be their IP address (either the public IP address they are sending through or their domain's MX record) which is blacklisted, rather than actual their domain name. You can check whether they appear on any blacklists using the lookup tools at http://www.mxtoolbox.com -- Stuart On 5 Feb 2010 at 9:23, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello All, > > I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked > childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to dispense > funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. > > They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were in > the spam folder of their recipient. > > I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of my > gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. > > Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? > Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of these > lists? > I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no easy > way to get off such a list? > If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use of > the old domain name? > > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 5 04:00:18 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:00:18 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Message-ID: Hi Mark GMail is one service that is relying on the existence of a spf record to look up to detect possible spam. We did this test a few days ago with two e-mails which will demonstrate. One went directly to the spam folder, the other did not. gustav at cactusdata.dk is a GMail account of ours. This one was send from an in-house server at a client with a fixed-IP address ADSL line via the SMTP service of Windows Server 2000. At that moment, however, smtp.prconnect.dk was not recorded in the DNS; it is now: Delivered-To: gustav at cactusdata.dk Received: by 10.90.104.1 with SMTP id b1cs233630agc; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 04:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.4.22 with SMTP id 22mr7664289fap.97.1265201864702; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:57:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from smtp.prconnect.dk (cpe.atm2-0-10585.bynxx13.customer.tele.dk [80.164.141.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 7si1489834fxm.43.2010.02.03.04.57.44; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 80.164.141.170 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of admin at prconnect.dk) client-ip=80.164.141.170; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 80.164.141.170 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of admin at prconnect.dk) smtp.mail=admin at prconnect.dk Received: from server ([192.168.1.1]) by smtp.prconnect.dk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:57:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01caa4d0$79910360$fa01a8c0 at prconnect.dk> From: "Admin" To: Subject: Test fra PR Connect Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:25:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01CAA4CC.03A689D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1983 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1983 Return-Path: admin at prconnect.dk X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2010 12:57:43.0334 (UTC) FILETIME=[79937460:01CAA4D0] This one was sent from our in-house GroupWise server: Delivered-To: gustav at cactusdata.dk Received: by 10.90.104.1 with SMTP id b1cs237337agc; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 06:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.7.25 with SMTP id 25mr161191wfg.141.1265206714605; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:18:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from cactus.dk (mail.cactus.dk [213.150.48.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 17si16796170pzk.125.2010.02.03.06.18.33; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of Gustav at cactus.dk designates 213.150.48.58 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.150.48.58; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of Gustav at cactus.dk designates 213.150.48.58 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=Gustav at cactus.dk Received: from gwdom-MTA by cactus.dk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:18:32 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.4 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:18:03 +0100 From: "Gustav Brock" To: Subject: Cactus spf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline So a missing spf record may be what causes trouble for your client. I know there is some discussion about the spf record but I don't care that much as it works for probably all of the public major web based mail hosts. In this example the spf record reads: "v=spf1 mx mx:smtp.prconnect.dk -all" /gustav >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 05-02-2010 10:23 >>> Hello All, I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to dispense funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were in the spam folder of their recipient. I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of my gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of these lists? I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no easy way to get off such a list? If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use of the old domain name? Thanks for your suggestions and comments. Mark From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 5 05:22:33 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:22:33 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tip: Preview PDF files in Windows 64-bit Explorer Message-ID: Hi all If you have Windows Vista/7 64-bit edition the PDF preview doesn't show up * all you get in the preview pane are the words "This file can't be previewed". To address this: http://news.office-watch.com/t/n.aspx?articleid=1350&zoneid=12 or simply create and run this reg file (save as, say, "Restore Explorer 64 Preview.reg" ): Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{DC6EFB56-9CFA-464D-8880-44885D7DC193}] "AppID"="{534A1E02-D58F-44f0-B58B-36CBED287C7C}" Of course, Adobe Reader 9 must be installed on the machine. /gustav From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 5 08:18:26 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 06:18:26 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spamlists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21FC652FB6DC4D89B8B12B89E65ECCEF@HAL9005> Mark: My wife's email address got on Cox Cable's shit list last year - none of her emails to a cox.net address went through. They are have notoriously bad customer service so it was like pulling teeth just to get them to acknowledge that the problem was on their side. Had to prove to them that the message was leaving Roadrunner (out ISP) and being blocked by them. Finally got it straightened out but it as a world class PITA. You might start on your side though and try to find out why their emails are being identified as spam. Is there any pattern to the recipient's isp? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:24 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spamlists Hello All, I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to dispense funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were in the spam folder of their recipient. I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of my gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of these lists? I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no easy way to get off such a list? If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use of the old domain name? Thanks for your suggestions and comments. Mark _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 5 12:45:32 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:45:32 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01D2F0645A0F45F394E654820E629F55@creativesystemdesigns.com> It is possible that they got themselves blacklisted but ISPs use as much content appraisal to decide whether something is spam or otherwise. Some of the criteria are: 1. A large batch of emails being sent being identical or almost identical. That can be gotten around by as little as adding the recipients name to the content of each email. 2. Particular content that says of implies drug or sexual content. I have had mail rejected that had three 'X' in a row. The mere mention of children or youth can be a trigger. Then there is the possible mention of money which can also be a trigger. (Check their standard emails to see if there is any possibility that their messages could misinterpreted.) 3. Very plain emails, ones without pictures or images or any professional layout imbedded may be considered suspect...or subject lines or body content that may appear coded. Other possibilities are that some computer within an organization may have become compromised at one point and ended up being used as a zombie. This could get the whole address range blocked. Maybe someone at the site has been using the system to do load porn. If you suspect that the client is blacklisted you could check their various main IPs against the following site: http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx?AG=GBL&gclid=CNyq8dzr258CFQYXagodlC DUGQ (watch for wrap...) If some of their IPs are found to be on any blacklist it will take a number of phones call to get their good name reinstated. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:24 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Hello All, I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to dispense funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were in the spam folder of their recipient. I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of my gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of these lists? I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no easy way to get off such a list? If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use of the old domain name? Thanks for your suggestions and comments. Mark _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 5 12:46:51 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:46:51 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tip: Preview PDF files in Windows 64-bit Explorer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <25EAF308D10A46E08A6AC68FAC1B3B1A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Thanks for sharing Gustav. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:23 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Tip: Preview PDF files in Windows 64-bit Explorer Hi all If you have Windows Vista/7 64-bit edition the PDF preview doesn't show up * all you get in the preview pane are the words "This file can't be previewed". To address this: http://news.office-watch.com/t/n.aspx?articleid=1350&zoneid=12 or simply create and run this reg file (save as, say, "Restore Explorer 64 Preview.reg" ): Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{DC6EFB56-9CFA-464D-8 880-44885D7DC193}] "AppID"="{534A1E02-D58F-44f0-B58B-36CBED287C7C}" Of course, Adobe Reader 9 must be installed on the machine. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 5 16:07:34 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:07:34 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel Tab Key Message-ID: <843B341F79F749A8958E65AE7D2282F1@HAL9005> Dear List: Something changed in my Excel so that when I hit the TAB key the cursor moves right several cells instead of just one like it used to. Does anyone know how to set this back? MTIA Rocky From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Feb 5 16:19:24 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:19:24 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com>, <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> It's got a while to go yet. Big Blue demos 100GHz chip One atom thin http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/05/ibm_graphene_transistor/ -- Stuart On 31 Jan 2010 at 17:40, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be reached? > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > ticle1449339 > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 5 16:40:17 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:40:17 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OUTLOOK In-Reply-To: <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <161BAD47CD954607B9EED4A8081566FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> A question: Would anyone recommend using Outlook command line interface or should BLAT be used instead. If someone does use Outlook command line interface reliable would you also have a sample of a working script with an address, a subject, a body and an attachment? TIA Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 5 16:45:25 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:45:25 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Awesome, so when can I expect one or two for my home machine...? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? It's got a while to go yet. Big Blue demos 100GHz chip One atom thin http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/05/ibm_graphene_transistor/ -- Stuart On 31 Jan 2010 at 17:40, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be reached? > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > ticle1449339 > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Feb 5 16:48:08 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:48:08 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OUTLOOK In-Reply-To: <161BAD47CD954607B9EED4A8081566FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <161BAD47CD954607B9EED4A8081566FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4B6CA028.15317.18FF20BC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> It depends what you want to send, where you want to send it from, what you want to do about "copies to self" and how it has to be transported. Having said that I would recommend Blat in the vast majority of cases. -- Stuart On 5 Feb 2010 at 14:40, Jim Lawrence wrote: > A question: > > Would anyone recommend using Outlook command line interface or should BLAT > be used instead. If someone does use Outlook command line interface reliable > would you also have a sample of a working script with an address, a subject, > a body and an attachment? > > TIA > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Feb 5 16:49:54 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:49:54 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: References: , <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, Message-ID: <4B6CA092.3622.1900BE33@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> About the same time that you require that much power to run Windows and Office? -- Stuart On 5 Feb 2010 at 14:45, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Awesome, so when can I expect one or two for my home machine...? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:19 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? > > It's got a while to go yet. > > Big Blue demos 100GHz chip > One atom thin > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/05/ibm_graphene_transistor/ > > -- > Stuart > > On 31 Jan 2010 at 17:40, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be > reached? > > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > > ticle1449339 > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 5 17:00:41 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:00:41 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy server setup In-Reply-To: <161BAD47CD954607B9EED4A8081566FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <3549BD3E522545A4BE49484A10F6365C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <02359BFEA75D4E66B890D28C16034C86@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <161BAD47CD954607B9EED4A8081566FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4E9983D605D44868A8C102B4A039FE82@creativesystemdesigns.com> For all you who work on a budget, have a small network to support, even with mixed OSs and have a few beaters around, it is time for a little server to manage things. Try the following: http://www.amahi.org Below is one of the testimonials: I live in a household with 10 computers running a variety of operating systems - 4 Macs running Leopard, 1 Vista, 3 Windows XP, 1 Ubuntu and 1 Fedora. I was looking for a flexible and robust home server solution that I could set and forget. I've found it with the Amahi Home Server. I was an early adopter of Windows Home Server but wasn't happy with it. It was "delicate". Issues appeared on a daily basis and it didn't "play well" with the non-Microsoft computers in my house. I've had my Amahi server up and running for a few months now and am very pleased. The thing just hums away quietly in the corner. Setting up user accounts is a no brainer. I use it as a file server, music server, video server and to download torrents. So far I've accessed it remotely using openvpn from around North America, Europe and Asia. I'm no linux geek but haven't had any significant problems setting it up. Any questions I had were answer promptly by the Amahi team. Kudos on an excellent product. It's exactly what I was looking for. Highly recommended. For a small client or homeuser it might be more than enough. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 5 17:01:52 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:01:52 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? In-Reply-To: <4B6CA092.3622.1900BE33@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4B6CA092.3622.1900BE33@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <546DB6E975D44E688568F95F817C051D@creativesystemdesigns.com> I can hardly wait until next Christmas then. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:50 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? About the same time that you require that much power to run Windows and Office? -- Stuart On 5 Feb 2010 at 14:45, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Awesome, so when can I expect one or two for my home machine...? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:19 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Is there an end to computer power growth? > > It's got a while to go yet. > > Big Blue demos 100GHz chip > One atom thin > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/05/ibm_graphene_transistor/ > > -- > Stuart > > On 31 Jan 2010 at 17:40, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Is there an end to Moore's law of computers and how soon will it be > reached? > > The following article discusses this inedibility. > > > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/why-the-computer-is-doomed/ar > > ticle1449339 > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 5 17:04:12 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:04:12 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OUTLOOK In-Reply-To: <4B6CA028.15317.18FF20BC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4B6C996C.3497.18E4D29C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <161BAD47CD954607B9EED4A8081566FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4B6CA028.15317.18FF20BC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Until, I hear otherwise I will go with Blat... It is a pretty rugged app... and for some reason I am suspicious of command line Outlook... There must be a reason no one I know uses it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:48 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OUTLOOK It depends what you want to send, where you want to send it from, what you want to do about "copies to self" and how it has to be transported. Having said that I would recommend Blat in the vast majority of cases. -- Stuart On 5 Feb 2010 at 14:40, Jim Lawrence wrote: > A question: > > Would anyone recommend using Outlook command line interface or should BLAT > be used instead. If someone does use Outlook command line interface reliable > would you also have a sample of a working script with an address, a subject, > a body and an attachment? > > TIA > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 20:50:10 2010 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:50:10 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel Tab Key In-Reply-To: <843B341F79F749A8958E65AE7D2282F1@HAL9005> References: <843B341F79F749A8958E65AE7D2282F1@HAL9005> Message-ID: Check the scroll lock function key. GK On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List: > > Something changed in my Excel so that when I hit the TAB key the cursor > moves right several cells instead of just one like it used to. ?Does anyone > know how to set this back? > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From garykjos at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 20:59:53 2010 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:59:53 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel Tab Key In-Reply-To: <843B341F79F749A8958E65AE7D2282F1@HAL9005> References: <843B341F79F749A8958E65AE7D2282F1@HAL9005> Message-ID: Tools>options>transition clear transition navigation keys, it jumps the size from http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/32837771/tab-key-in-excel-jumps-cu.aspx GK On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List: > > Something changed in my Excel so that when I hit the TAB key the cursor > moves right several cells instead of just one like it used to. ?Does anyone > know how to set this back? > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 5 22:55:42 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:55:42 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel Tab Key In-Reply-To: References: <843B341F79F749A8958E65AE7D2282F1@HAL9005> Message-ID: <6CC661191F674F5BA12757A246A49B7D@HAL9005> No soap. That scroll lock has fooled me a couple of other times, though. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 6:50 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel Tab Key Check the scroll lock function key. GK On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List: > > Something changed in my Excel so that when I hit the TAB key the > cursor moves right several cells instead of just one like it used to. ? > Does anyone know how to set this back? > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 5 22:59:08 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:59:08 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel Tab Key In-Reply-To: References: <843B341F79F749A8958E65AE7D2282F1@HAL9005> Message-ID: That done it!!! Thank you Gary. Been bugging me for days. Don't know how it got changed but the links sez: "You probably opened a workbook that was originally created in Lotus 123". Well, no, but probably something else. Wish they wouldn't change my settings like that without telling me. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:00 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel Tab Key Tools>options>transition clear transition navigation keys, it jumps the Tools>options>size from http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/32837771/tab-key-in-excel-jumps-c u.aspx GK On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List: > > Something changed in my Excel so that when I hit the TAB key the > cursor moves right several cells instead of just one like it used to. ? > Does anyone know how to set this back? > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 05:28:51 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:28:51 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists In-Reply-To: <01D2F0645A0F45F394E654820E629F55@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <01D2F0645A0F45F394E654820E629F55@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hello Guys, Thank you all for your input, this was useful. I looked up the domain name and yes, it is on one of the blacklists. IIUC, It is actually the smtp server that is on the blacklist, and not the domain or the IP address my customer is assigned. In that case, I have options of a) switch smtp servers b) switch to google apps for the email serving. I favor Google apps because I can then cease to use Exchange (they have only 5 employees) and I do not have to worry about restoring Exchange in the event of a disaster. I may have mentioned here that I recently installed two USB disks for alternating offs-site backups. I also mentioned that I installed TrueCrypt on the two disks. All that works well, but I have to use Veritas BackupExec to backup the Exchange folders and I fear having to do a restore of that stuff. Is this the golden opportunity to move the email off exchange and onto Google Apps? If so, they may opt to continue to use Outlook as the mail client, which is fine. However, what about calendars. Has anyone here used Outlook as a email client and attempted to interface the calender of outlook to the Google App Calendar? TIA for input and comments. Mark So that leaves me with a few options On 5 February 2010 18:45, Jim Lawrence wrote: > It is possible that they got themselves blacklisted but ISPs use as much > content appraisal to decide whether something is spam or otherwise. Some of > the criteria are: > > 1. A large batch of emails being sent being identical or almost identical. > That can be gotten around by as little as adding the recipients name to the > content of each email. > 2. Particular content that says of implies drug or sexual content. I have > had mail rejected that had three 'X' in a row. The mere mention of children > or youth can be a trigger. Then there is the possible mention of money > which > can also be a trigger. (Check their standard emails to see if there is any > possibility that their messages could misinterpreted.) > 3. Very plain emails, ones without pictures or images or any professional > layout imbedded may be considered suspect...or subject lines or body > content > that may appear coded. > > Other possibilities are that some computer within an organization may have > become compromised at one point and ended up being used as a zombie. This > could get the whole address range blocked. Maybe someone at the site has > been using the system to do load porn. > > If you suspect that the client is blacklisted you could check their various > main IPs against the following site: > > http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx?AG=GBL&gclid=CNyq8dzr258CFQYXagodlC > DUGQ (watch for wrap...) If some of their IPs are found to be on any > blacklist it will take a number of phones call to get their good name > reinstated. > > HTH > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:24 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam > lists > > Hello All, > > I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked > childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to dispense > funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. > > They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were in > the spam folder of their recipient. > > I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of > my > gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. > > Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? > Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of these > lists? > I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no > easy > way to get off such a list? > If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use > of > the old domain name? > > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 05:35:55 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:35:55 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Gustav, that is very interesting, how do you manage or control the Sender Policy Framework Is that something the you enable and maintain locally on your smtp server, or do you mange it from the domain registry company? Thanks Mark On 5 February 2010 10:00, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Mark > > GMail is one service that is relying on the existence of a spf record to > look up to detect possible spam. > We did this test a few days ago with two e-mails which will demonstrate. > One went directly to the spam folder, the other did not. > gustav at cactusdata.dk is a GMail account of ours. > > This one was send from an in-house server at a client with a fixed-IP > address ADSL line via the SMTP service of Windows Server 2000. At that > moment, however, smtp.prconnect.dk was not recorded in the DNS; it is now: > > > Delivered-To: gustav at cactusdata.dk > Received: by 10.90.104.1 with SMTP id b1cs233630agc; > Wed, 3 Feb 2010 04:57:45 -0800 (PST) > Received: by 10.223.4.22 with SMTP id 22mr7664289fap.97.1265201864702; > Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:57:44 -0800 (PST) > Return-Path: > Received: from smtp.prconnect.dk ( > cpe.atm2-0-10585.bynxx13.customer.tele.dk [80.164.141.170]) > by mx.google.com with ESMTP id > 7si1489834fxm.43.2010.02.03.04.57.44; > Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:57:44 -0800 (PST) > Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 80.164.141.170 is neither permitted nor > denied by best guess record for domain of admin at prconnect.dk) > client-ip=80.164.141.170; > Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: > 80.164.141.170 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for > domain of admin at prconnect.dk) smtp.mail=admin at prconnect.dk > Received: from server ([192.168.1.1]) by smtp.prconnect.dk with Microsoft > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); > Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:57:43 +0100 > Message-ID: <000b01caa4d0$79910360$fa01a8c0 at prconnect.dk> > From: "Admin" > To: > Subject: Test fra PR Connect > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:25:47 +0100 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01CAA4CC.03A689D0" > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1983 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1983 > Return-Path: admin at prconnect.dk > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2010 12:57:43.0334 (UTC) > FILETIME=[79937460:01CAA4D0] > > > This one was sent from our in-house GroupWise server: > > > Delivered-To: gustav at cactusdata.dk > Received: by 10.90.104.1 with SMTP id b1cs237337agc; > Wed, 3 Feb 2010 06:18:35 -0800 (PST) > Received: by 10.142.7.25 with SMTP id 25mr161191wfg.141.1265206714605; > Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:18:34 -0800 (PST) > Return-Path: > Received: from cactus.dk (mail.cactus.dk [213.150.48.58]) > by mx.google.com with ESMTP id > 17si16796170pzk.125.2010.02.03.06.18.33; > Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:18:34 -0800 (PST) > Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of Gustav at cactus.dk designates > 213.150.48.58 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.150.48.58; > Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of > Gustav at cactus.dk designates 213.150.48.58 as permitted sender) smtp.mail= > Gustav at cactus.dk > Received: from gwdom-MTA by cactus.dk > with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:18:32 +0100 > Message-Id: > X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.4 > Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:18:03 +0100 > From: "Gustav Brock" > To: > Subject: Cactus spf > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Disposition: inline > > > So a missing spf record may be what causes trouble for your client. I know > there is some discussion about the spf record but I don't care that much as > it works for probably all of the public major web based mail hosts. > > In this example the spf record reads: > > "v=spf1 mx mx:smtp.prconnect.dk -all" > > /gustav > > > >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 05-02-2010 10:23 >>> > Hello All, > > I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked > childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to dispense > funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. > > They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were in > the spam folder of their recipient. > > I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of > my > gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. > > Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? > Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of these > lists? > I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no > easy > way to get off such a list? > If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use > of > the old domain name? > > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Feb 6 09:56:36 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:56:36 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists In-Reply-To: References: <01D2F0645A0F45F394E654820E629F55@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <929E0EA8DAF94037A3B9A06F59B9EB50@creativesystemdesigns.com> How do you resolve the email address so it reads: george at GeorgesDomain.com ...instead of... george at gmail.com ? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:29 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Hello Guys, Thank you all for your input, this was useful. I looked up the domain name and yes, it is on one of the blacklists. IIUC, It is actually the smtp server that is on the blacklist, and not the domain or the IP address my customer is assigned. In that case, I have options of a) switch smtp servers b) switch to google apps for the email serving. I favor Google apps because I can then cease to use Exchange (they have only 5 employees) and I do not have to worry about restoring Exchange in the event of a disaster. I may have mentioned here that I recently installed two USB disks for alternating offs-site backups. I also mentioned that I installed TrueCrypt on the two disks. All that works well, but I have to use Veritas BackupExec to backup the Exchange folders and I fear having to do a restore of that stuff. Is this the golden opportunity to move the email off exchange and onto Google Apps? If so, they may opt to continue to use Outlook as the mail client, which is fine. However, what about calendars. Has anyone here used Outlook as a email client and attempted to interface the calender of outlook to the Google App Calendar? TIA for input and comments. Mark So that leaves me with a few options On 5 February 2010 18:45, Jim Lawrence wrote: > It is possible that they got themselves blacklisted but ISPs use as much > content appraisal to decide whether something is spam or otherwise. Some of > the criteria are: > > 1. A large batch of emails being sent being identical or almost identical. > That can be gotten around by as little as adding the recipients name to the > content of each email. > 2. Particular content that says of implies drug or sexual content. I have > had mail rejected that had three 'X' in a row. The mere mention of children > or youth can be a trigger. Then there is the possible mention of money > which > can also be a trigger. (Check their standard emails to see if there is any > possibility that their messages could misinterpreted.) > 3. Very plain emails, ones without pictures or images or any professional > layout imbedded may be considered suspect...or subject lines or body > content > that may appear coded. > > Other possibilities are that some computer within an organization may have > become compromised at one point and ended up being used as a zombie. This > could get the whole address range blocked. Maybe someone at the site has > been using the system to do load porn. > > If you suspect that the client is blacklisted you could check their various > main IPs against the following site: > > http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx?AG=GBL&gclid=CNyq8dzr258CFQYXagodlC > DUGQ (watch for wrap...) If some of their IPs are found to be on any > blacklist it will take a number of phones call to get their good name > reinstated. > > HTH > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:24 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam > lists > > Hello All, > > I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked > childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to dispense > funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. > > They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were in > the spam folder of their recipient. > > I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of > my > gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. > > Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? > Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of these > lists? > I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no > easy > way to get off such a list? > If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use > of > the old domain name? > > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 12:48:28 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:48:28 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists In-Reply-To: <929E0EA8DAF94037A3B9A06F59B9EB50@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <01D2F0645A0F45F394E654820E629F55@creativesystemdesigns.com> <929E0EA8DAF94037A3B9A06F59B9EB50@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hello Jim, I am not sure if I understand your question. When I talk of migrating them to gmail, I am referring to Google Apps Email system (based on the gmail engine) does that answer your question? thanks Mark On 6 February 2010 15:56, Jim Lawrence wrote: > How do you resolve the email address so it reads: > > george at GeorgesDomain.com > > ...instead of... > > george at gmail.com > > ? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:29 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for > spam lists > > Hello Guys, > > Thank you all for your input, this was useful. > > I looked up the domain name and yes, it is on one of the blacklists. IIUC, > It is actually the smtp server that is on the blacklist, and not the domain > or the IP address my customer is assigned. > > In that case, I have options of > > a) switch smtp servers > b) switch to google apps for the email serving. > > I favor Google apps because I can then cease to use Exchange (they have > only > 5 employees) and I do not have to worry about restoring Exchange in the > event of a disaster. I may have mentioned here that I recently installed > two USB disks for alternating offs-site backups. I also mentioned that I > installed TrueCrypt on the two disks. All that works well, but I have to > use Veritas BackupExec to backup the Exchange folders and I fear having to > do a restore of that stuff. > > Is this the golden opportunity to move the email off exchange and onto > Google Apps? > If so, they may opt to continue to use Outlook as the mail client, which is > fine. > However, what about calendars. Has anyone here used Outlook as a email > client and attempted to interface the calender of outlook to the Google App > Calendar? > > TIA for input and comments. > > Mark > > > So that leaves me with a few options > > On 5 February 2010 18:45, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > It is possible that they got themselves blacklisted but ISPs use as much > > content appraisal to decide whether something is spam or otherwise. Some > of > > the criteria are: > > > > 1. A large batch of emails being sent being identical or almost > identical. > > That can be gotten around by as little as adding the recipients name to > the > > content of each email. > > 2. Particular content that says of implies drug or sexual content. I have > > had mail rejected that had three 'X' in a row. The mere mention of > children > > or youth can be a trigger. Then there is the possible mention of money > > which > > can also be a trigger. (Check their standard emails to see if there is > any > > possibility that their messages could misinterpreted.) > > 3. Very plain emails, ones without pictures or images or any professional > > layout imbedded may be considered suspect...or subject lines or body > > content > > that may appear coded. > > > > Other possibilities are that some computer within an organization may > have > > become compromised at one point and ended up being used as a zombie. This > > could get the whole address range blocked. Maybe someone at the site has > > been using the system to do load porn. > > > > If you suspect that the client is blacklisted you could check their > various > > main IPs against the following site: > > > > > > http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx?AG=GBL&gclid=CNyq8dzr258CFQYXagodlC > > DUGQ (watch for wrap...) If some of their IPs are found to be on any > > blacklist it will take a number of phones call to get their good name > > reinstated. > > > > HTH > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:24 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for > spam > > lists > > > > Hello All, > > > > I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked > > childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to > dispense > > funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. > > > > They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were > in > > the spam folder of their recipient. > > > > I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of > > my > > gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. > > > > Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? > > Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of > these > > lists? > > I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no > > easy > > way to get off such a list? > > If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use > > of > > the old domain name? > > > > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. > > > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 6 15:30:37 2010 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:30:37 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Message-ID: Hi Mark You have a point about restoring an Exchange server - this is not a job left for amateurs. Your option could be exactly SmarterMail which in its enterprise version is free for 10 users and provides most of the features of Exchange including a nifty web interface, mail archiving, and decent functionality with Outlook as the desktop client: http://www.smartertools.com/SmarterMail We currently consider to replace our aged GroupWise 6.5 server with a dual setup of SmarterMail. /gustav >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 06-02-2010 12:28 >>> Hello Guys, Thank you all for your input, this was useful. I looked up the domain name and yes, it is on one of the blacklists. IIUC, It is actually the smtp server that is on the blacklist, and not the domain or the IP address my customer is assigned. In that case, I have options of a) switch smtp servers b) switch to google apps for the email serving. I favor Google apps because I can then cease to use Exchange (they have only 5 employees) and I do not have to worry about restoring Exchange in the event of a disaster. I may have mentioned here that I recently installed two USB disks for alternating offs-site backups. I also mentioned that I installed TrueCrypt on the two disks. All that works well, but I have to use Veritas BackupExec to backup the Exchange folders and I fear having to do a restore of that stuff. Is this the golden opportunity to move the email off exchange and onto Google Apps? If so, they may opt to continue to use Outlook as the mail client, which is fine. However, what about calendars. Has anyone here used Outlook as a email client and attempted to interface the calender of outlook to the Google App Calendar? TIA for input and comments. Mark From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 6 15:46:55 2010 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:46:55 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Message-ID: Hi Mark You control via a Text record in your DNS setup. How to do this depends on where your domain is hosted. We use a local free high-quality DNS service: http://www.unoeuro.com/products.php As for most other free or low-cost DNS hosts, you have to do the work yourself via an admin page which actually is an advantage when you know what to record and wish full control. In other cases you have to write to the support and ask them for adjusting your DNS settings; this can be quite cumbersome. You can read all about the SPF system here: http://old.openspf.org/ Note the SPF WIZARD which will build the record for you for any normal setup. /gustav >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 06-02-2010 12:35 >>> Hello Gustav, that is very interesting, how do you manage or control the Sender Policy Framework Is that something the you enable and maintain locally on your smtp server, or do you mange it from the domain registry company? Thanks Mark On 5 February 2010 10:00, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Mark > > GMail is one service that is relying on the existence of a spf record to > look up to detect possible spam. > We did this test a few days ago with two e-mails which will demonstrate. > One went directly to the spam folder, the other did not. From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 6 16:14:14 2010 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:14:14 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Message-ID: Hi Jim You don't. You redirect some or all services (mail, calender, web site) of your domain to an account at Google Apps: https://www.google.com/a/ We have a test domain running, and here you can see the associated DNS records. Because GMail is a huge system, the MX recordings are extensive; normally you will have only one or two MX records. Note that the value of an MX record _never_ can be an IP address, it must be a host name: cactusdata.dk NS 3600 - ns1.unoeuro.com cactusdata.dk NS 3600 - ns2.unoeuro.com cactusdata.dk MX 3600 1 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 5 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 5 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM kal.cactusdata.dk CNAME 3600 - ghs.google.com post.cactusdata.dk CNAME 3600 - ghs.google.com www.cactusdata.dk CNAME 3600 - ghs.google.com /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 06-02-2010 16:56 >>> How do you resolve the email address so it reads: george at GeorgesDomain.com ...instead of... george at gmail.com ? Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Feb 6 16:15:58 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:15:58 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists In-Reply-To: References: <01D2F0645A0F45F394E654820E629F55@creativesystemdesigns.com> <929E0EA8DAF94037A3B9A06F59B9EB50@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <663DB92BEC4447C8B057385CC1E06D8F@creativesystemdesigns.com> Oh yes ofcourse... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:48 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Hello Jim, I am not sure if I understand your question. When I talk of migrating them to gmail, I am referring to Google Apps Email system (based on the gmail engine) does that answer your question? thanks Mark On 6 February 2010 15:56, Jim Lawrence wrote: > How do you resolve the email address so it reads: > > george at GeorgesDomain.com > > ...instead of... > > george at gmail.com > > ? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:29 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for > spam lists > > Hello Guys, > > Thank you all for your input, this was useful. > > I looked up the domain name and yes, it is on one of the blacklists. IIUC, > It is actually the smtp server that is on the blacklist, and not the domain > or the IP address my customer is assigned. > > In that case, I have options of > > a) switch smtp servers > b) switch to google apps for the email serving. > > I favor Google apps because I can then cease to use Exchange (they have > only > 5 employees) and I do not have to worry about restoring Exchange in the > event of a disaster. I may have mentioned here that I recently installed > two USB disks for alternating offs-site backups. I also mentioned that I > installed TrueCrypt on the two disks. All that works well, but I have to > use Veritas BackupExec to backup the Exchange folders and I fear having to > do a restore of that stuff. > > Is this the golden opportunity to move the email off exchange and onto > Google Apps? > If so, they may opt to continue to use Outlook as the mail client, which is > fine. > However, what about calendars. Has anyone here used Outlook as a email > client and attempted to interface the calender of outlook to the Google App > Calendar? > > TIA for input and comments. > > Mark > > > So that leaves me with a few options > > On 5 February 2010 18:45, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > It is possible that they got themselves blacklisted but ISPs use as much > > content appraisal to decide whether something is spam or otherwise. Some > of > > the criteria are: > > > > 1. A large batch of emails being sent being identical or almost > identical. > > That can be gotten around by as little as adding the recipients name to > the > > content of each email. > > 2. Particular content that says of implies drug or sexual content. I have > > had mail rejected that had three 'X' in a row. The mere mention of > children > > or youth can be a trigger. Then there is the possible mention of money > > which > > can also be a trigger. (Check their standard emails to see if there is > any > > possibility that their messages could misinterpreted.) > > 3. Very plain emails, ones without pictures or images or any professional > > layout imbedded may be considered suspect...or subject lines or body > > content > > that may appear coded. > > > > Other possibilities are that some computer within an organization may > have > > become compromised at one point and ended up being used as a zombie. This > > could get the whole address range blocked. Maybe someone at the site has > > been using the system to do load porn. > > > > If you suspect that the client is blacklisted you could check their > various > > main IPs against the following site: > > > > > > http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx?AG=GBL&gclid=CNyq8dzr258CFQYXagodlC > > DUGQ (watch for wrap...) If some of their IPs are found to be on any > > blacklist it will take a number of phones call to get their good name > > reinstated. > > > > HTH > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:24 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for > spam > > lists > > > > Hello All, > > > > I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked > > childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to > dispense > > funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. > > > > They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were > in > > the spam folder of their recipient. > > > > I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of > > my > > gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. > > > > Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? > > Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of > these > > lists? > > I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no > > easy > > way to get off such a list? > > If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use > > of > > the old domain name? > > > > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. > > > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Feb 6 16:31:59 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:31:59 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gustav: Thanks for the info. I might move things over seeing the price is right. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:14 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Hi Jim You don't. You redirect some or all services (mail, calender, web site) of your domain to an account at Google Apps: https://www.google.com/a/ We have a test domain running, and here you can see the associated DNS records. Because GMail is a huge system, the MX recordings are extensive; normally you will have only one or two MX records. Note that the value of an MX record _never_ can be an IP address, it must be a host name: cactusdata.dk NS 3600 - ns1.unoeuro.com cactusdata.dk NS 3600 - ns2.unoeuro.com cactusdata.dk MX 3600 1 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 5 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 5 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM kal.cactusdata.dk CNAME 3600 - ghs.google.com post.cactusdata.dk CNAME 3600 - ghs.google.com www.cactusdata.dk CNAME 3600 - ghs.google.com /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 06-02-2010 16:56 >>> How do you resolve the email address so it reads: george at GeorgesDomain.com ...instead of... george at gmail.com ? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 6 17:06:03 2010 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:06:03 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Message-ID: Hi Jim The "price" is that users, when browsing mail at the web interface, may see a column with standard Google text advertisements "related" to the content of the mail currently viewed - in most cases with some absolutely useless links. These are removed if you pay the annual fee. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 06-02-2010 23:31 >>> Hi Gustav: Thanks for the info. I might move things over seeing the price is right. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:14 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Hi Jim You don't. You redirect some or all services (mail, calender, web site) of your domain to an account at Google Apps: https://www.google.com/a/ We have a test domain running, and here you can see the associated DNS records. Because GMail is a huge system, the MX recordings are extensive; normally you will have only one or two MX records. Note that the value of an MX record _never_ can be an IP address, it must be a host name: cactusdata.dk NS 3600 - ns1.unoeuro.com cactusdata.dk NS 3600 - ns2.unoeuro.com cactusdata.dk MX 3600 1 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 5 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 5 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM cactusdata.dk MX 3600 10 ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM kal.cactusdata.dk CNAME 3600 - ghs.google.com post.cactusdata.dk CNAME 3600 - ghs.google.com www.cactusdata.dk CNAME 3600 - ghs.google.com /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 06-02-2010 16:56 >>> How do you resolve the email address so it reads: george at GeorgesDomain.com ...instead of... george at gmail.com ? Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Feb 8 15:02:42 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:02:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office OneNote question Message-ID: Office OneNote has a print option called Selection -- which seems to imply that I can select text and then print just the selected text. But, it's always dimmed out. Anyone know why? The only print option that's ever available is All -- who wants to print everything in OneNote? Susan Harkins From rustykh at yahoo.com Mon Feb 8 15:38:22 2010 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:38:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Office OneNote question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <248422.13571.qm@web65404.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> If I click on the page title tab (on the right side of the screen), it selects the entire page and header, then Selection is available in the print option. I'm guessing otherwise it prints all pages under the current section? ________________________________ From: Susan Harkins To: DBA Tech List Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 3:02:42 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Office OneNote question Office OneNote has a print option called Selection -- which seems to imply that I can select text and then print just the selected text. But, it's always dimmed out. Anyone know why? The only print option that's ever available is All -- who wants to print everything in OneNote? Susan Harkins _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Feb 8 16:06:30 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:06:30 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office OneNote question References: <248422.13571.qm@web65404.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <283F174EAF65430D8D92A9C5E9CE1686@SusanOne> Apparently, the Selection option refers to full pages -- you can print a selection of pages. It doesn't refer to selected text, as it does in other Office applications. Too bad... ;( Susan H. > If I click on the page title tab (on the right side of the screen), it > selects the entire page and header, then Selection is available in the > print option. I'm guessing otherwise it prints all pages under the > current section? From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 9 02:33:19 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:33:19 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9332DF9955AB47908DFFCD3E2CE44304@creativesystemdesigns.com> Here is useful example of hacking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L7DTMKekoU Jim From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 03:06:36 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:06:36 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack In-Reply-To: <9332DF9955AB47908DFFCD3E2CE44304@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <9332DF9955AB47908DFFCD3E2CE44304@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4b7125ac.1c05d00a.1d9d.505b@mx.google.com> You ain't seen nuffin yet. This is THE MAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: 09 February 2010 08:33 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack Here is useful example of hacking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L7DTMKekoU Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Feb 9 03:15:59 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:15:59 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack Message-ID: Hi Max Or have we? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc&NR=1 /gustav >>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 09-02-2010 10:06 >>> You ain't seen nuffin yet. From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 03:22:26 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:22:26 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4b712967.a815f10a.0a4f.fffffc81@mx.google.com> Possibly a fake but what proved it was the pilots were wearing different colour socks. That's a clincher! Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 09 February 2010 09:16 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hack attack Hi Max Or have we? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc&NR=1 /gustav >>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 09-02-2010 10:06 >>> You ain't seen nuffin yet. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Feb 9 03:34:19 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:34:19 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack Message-ID: Hi Max Possibly? Where have you archived your common sense? Here's the long story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzMXjlBXJeo&feature=related /gustav >>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 09-02-2010 10:22 >>> Possibly a fake but what proved it was the pilots were wearing different colour socks. That's a clincher! Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 09 February 2010 09:16 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hack attack Hi Max Or have we? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc&NR=1 /gustav >>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 09-02-2010 10:06 >>> You ain't seen nuffin yet. From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 04:00:30 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:00:30 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4b713253.1c07d00a.3c3c.ffffd647@mx.google.com> 1. Google Apps 2. Arguments don't stand up. IMO QED - TRUE Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 09 February 2010 09:34 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hack attack Hi Max Possibly? Where have you archived your common sense? Here's the long story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzMXjlBXJeo&feature=related /gustav >>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 09-02-2010 10:22 >>> Possibly a fake but what proved it was the pilots were wearing different colour socks. That's a clincher! Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 09 February 2010 09:16 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hack attack Hi Max Or have we? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc&NR=1 /gustav >>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 09-02-2010 10:06 >>> You ain't seen nuffin yet. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jerbach at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 10:46:41 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:46:41 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002090846y30b1ab92s407e8a01ebea66a@mail.gmail.com> I started a thread about a month ago in relation to extremely high virtual/physical memory usage on our SBS 2008 server. It looks like the issue may be a two-fold one: 1) We customized our installation of SBS 2008 and did NOT turn on the Microsoft Exchange features. We didn't want them. And it's starting to look like... 2) Having Exchange turned off has adversely affected the SBS Monitoring Services. SBS Monitoring has not cleaned up after itself properly since it was first installed, and I've found a couple of troubleshooting references that mention making sure two specific Exchange services are running. So I'm wondering if Monitoring can't clean up after itself without Exchange running in the background...The Monitoring database has reached it's built-in 4 gb limit, and it generates dozens of errors all day long because of that. I think that SBS Monitoring is thrashing constantly to try and do what it's supposed to do - and can't, due to database overgrowth. Does anyone know how I can go about turning off SBS monitoring completely? Stopping the services isn't enough...that has had no effect on memory usage. I can't find any helpful info on the issue through my web searches. And, unlike SBS 2003, you can't just uninstall SBS Monitoring - it does not appear as a seperate entity in the add/remove programs list. Or...am I better off starting over and re-installing SBS 2008 from scratch using the default settings so that it SBS 2008 will behave itself? Janet Erbach From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 9 11:29:51 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:29:51 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4 Release Candidate In-Reply-To: <4b713253.1c07d00a.3c3c.ffffd647@mx.google.com> References: <4b713253.1c07d00a.3c3c.ffffd647@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <403DD800FD6243FD9588A34125A937CA@creativesystemdesigns.com> Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4 Release Candidate is now available for MSDN subscribers (as of yesterday, Monday) and will be ready for general download as of tomorrow (Wednesday). http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-ca/vstudio/dd582936.aspx Lots of new features: SharePoint Development Silverlight and WPF Data Binding Core Coding Experience Native Development Parallel Computing Visual Studio Extensibility Office Development WF and WCF Windows Azure Tools Parallelism is one feature that very much interests me. Developers can write programs that will scale across multiple cores and processors... and that is in addition to multi-threaded, 64bit and native mode compiled applications. I was at a talk given by the founder of the company StrangeLoops (test your web site performance: http://www.strangeloopnetworks.com/products/buy/performance_report.aspx), out of Vancouver, Richard Campbell, who was in the employ of Microsoft to give a seminar on how to program Windows7 new desktop features, last week but he later wandered into the subject of parallelism... very interesting stuff for developing the server based web end. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 9 11:32:40 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:32:40 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack In-Reply-To: <4b7125ac.1c05d00a.1d9d.505b@mx.google.com> References: <9332DF9955AB47908DFFCD3E2CE44304@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4b7125ac.1c05d00a.1d9d.505b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <9636824044724F1DB5D5D95CB5AA9D37@creativesystemdesigns.com> I have seen that before but I bet he had the audiences screaming. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:07 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hack attack You ain't seen nuffin yet. This is THE MAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: 09 February 2010 08:33 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack Here is useful example of hacking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L7DTMKekoU Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 9 11:36:26 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:36:26 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hack attack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ha ha... good one Gustav. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:16 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hack attack Hi Max Or have we? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc&NR=1 /gustav >>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 09-02-2010 10:06 >>> You ain't seen nuffin yet. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 9 12:10:34 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:10:34 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002090846y30b1ab92s407e8a01ebea66a@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ef6ac2c1002090846y30b1ab92s407e8a01ebea66a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Janet: A friend who is working on a very similar site, SBS 2008, ran with most of the defaults when he did the install and even with a full RAID, it still runs like a dog. My job on this install was to redesign and deploy a new version of their POS and Estimator application (which I am still working on...). I have been moving as much of the FE application to the desktop as possible and migrating the BE to the MS SQL and performance has improved but it is still not stellar. A client of mine, of which I did the install, has a stand-alone 2008 server, with many of the SBS applications installed... MS SQL server 2005, IIS, MS Exchange (really needs its own server), Active directory, etc... But I use a hardware firewall and have 8 GB of RAM. The box probably runs at least twice as fast considering the hardware is probably physically slower than the new SBS box. Sorry, to say that and then be of no help to improve your performance but as far as I know there may not be any resolution... but if I hear of some tweaks or fixes you will be immediately informed through a post here. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:47 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues I started a thread about a month ago in relation to extremely high virtual/physical memory usage on our SBS 2008 server. It looks like the issue may be a two-fold one: 1) We customized our installation of SBS 2008 and did NOT turn on the Microsoft Exchange features. We didn't want them. And it's starting to look like... 2) Having Exchange turned off has adversely affected the SBS Monitoring Services. SBS Monitoring has not cleaned up after itself properly since it was first installed, and I've found a couple of troubleshooting references that mention making sure two specific Exchange services are running. So I'm wondering if Monitoring can't clean up after itself without Exchange running in the background...The Monitoring database has reached it's built-in 4 gb limit, and it generates dozens of errors all day long because of that. I think that SBS Monitoring is thrashing constantly to try and do what it's supposed to do - and can't, due to database overgrowth. Does anyone know how I can go about turning off SBS monitoring completely? Stopping the services isn't enough...that has had no effect on memory usage. I can't find any helpful info on the issue through my web searches. And, unlike SBS 2003, you can't just uninstall SBS Monitoring - it does not appear as a seperate entity in the add/remove programs list. Or...am I better off starting over and re-installing SBS 2008 from scratch using the default settings so that it SBS 2008 will behave itself? Janet Erbach _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 12:19:07 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:19:07 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002090846y30b1ab92s407e8a01ebea66a@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ef6ac2c1002090846y30b1ab92s407e8a01ebea66a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Janet, I also was watching to see if you had a resolution. I am sorry to hear of your woes. I am also sorry to say I have no suggestions. As a simple guy, I would be tempted to do a fresh install and then restore as little as possible, but restoring Exchange sounds like a nightmare. I installed Win7 from Scratch on Sat night on a laptop and it still took me 12 - 16 hours to get it back up and running. Who pays us for this? Nobody. I am only 41, but I feel old these last few months. Mark On 9 February 2010 16:46, Janet Erbach wrote: > I started a thread about a month ago in relation to extremely high > virtual/physical memory usage on our SBS 2008 server. It looks like the > issue may be a two-fold one: > > 1) We customized our installation of SBS 2008 and did NOT turn on the > Microsoft Exchange features. We didn't want them. And it's starting to > look like... > > 2) Having Exchange turned off has adversely affected the SBS Monitoring > Services. SBS Monitoring has not cleaned up after itself properly since it > was first installed, and I've found a couple of troubleshooting references > that mention making sure two specific Exchange services are running. So > I'm > wondering if Monitoring can't clean up after itself without Exchange > running > in the background...The Monitoring database has reached it's built-in 4 gb > limit, and it generates dozens of errors all day long because of that. > > I think that SBS Monitoring is thrashing constantly to try and do what it's > supposed to do - and can't, due to database overgrowth. Does anyone know > how I can go about turning off SBS monitoring completely? Stopping the > services isn't enough...that has had no effect on memory usage. I can't > find any helpful info on the issue through my web searches. And, unlike > SBS 2003, you can't just uninstall SBS Monitoring - it does not appear as a > seperate entity in the add/remove programs list. > > Or...am I better off starting over and re-installing SBS 2008 from scratch > using the default settings so that it SBS 2008 will behave itself? > > Janet Erbach > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jerbach at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 12:33:54 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:33:54 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues In-Reply-To: References: <6ef6ac2c1002090846y30b1ab92s407e8a01ebea66a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002091033v5d0e6eabkcdb15b657a44a6bd@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Jim. There IS a resolution, you know, but I'm saving the kerosene and the match for our evil IBM copier... On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Janet: > > A friend who is working on a very similar site, SBS 2008, ran with most of > the defaults when he did the install and even with a full RAID, it still > runs like a dog. My job on this install was to redesign and deploy a new > version of their POS and Estimator application (which I am still working > on...). I have been moving as much of the FE application to the desktop as > possible and migrating the BE to the MS SQL and performance has improved > but > it is still not stellar. > > A client of mine, of which I did the install, has a stand-alone 2008 > server, > with many of the SBS applications installed... MS SQL server 2005, IIS, MS > Exchange (really needs its own server), Active directory, etc... But I use > a > hardware firewall and have 8 GB of RAM. The box probably runs at least > twice > as fast considering the hardware is probably physically slower than the new > SBS box. > > Sorry, to say that and then be of no help to improve your performance but > as > far as I know there may not be any resolution... but if I hear of some > tweaks or fixes you will be immediately informed through a post here. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:47 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues > > I started a thread about a month ago in relation to extremely high > virtual/physical memory usage on our SBS 2008 server. It looks like the > issue may be a two-fold one: > > 1) We customized our installation of SBS 2008 and did NOT turn on the > Microsoft Exchange features. We didn't want them. And it's starting to > look like... > > 2) Having Exchange turned off has adversely affected the SBS Monitoring > Services. SBS Monitoring has not cleaned up after itself properly since it > was first installed, and I've found a couple of troubleshooting references > that mention making sure two specific Exchange services are running. So > I'm > wondering if Monitoring can't clean up after itself without Exchange > running > in the background...The Monitoring database has reached it's built-in 4 gb > limit, and it generates dozens of errors all day long because of that. > > I think that SBS Monitoring is thrashing constantly to try and do what it's > supposed to do - and can't, due to database overgrowth. Does anyone know > how I can go about turning off SBS monitoring completely? Stopping the > services isn't enough...that has had no effect on memory usage. I can't > find any helpful info on the issue through my web searches. And, unlike > SBS 2003, you can't just uninstall SBS Monitoring - it does not appear as a > seperate entity in the add/remove programs list. > > Or...am I better off starting over and re-installing SBS 2008 from scratch > using the default settings so that it SBS 2008 will behave itself? > > Janet Erbach > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jerbach at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 12:35:03 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:35:03 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues In-Reply-To: References: <6ef6ac2c1002090846y30b1ab92s407e8a01ebea66a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002091035u1e569263hc80790c19515be95@mail.gmail.com> Mark - Wow - 12- 16 hours for Win7 install! That's where you take up knitting so that you have something to do while you're tied to the chair! Janet P.S. Microsoft does tend to age one, doesn't it? On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Janet, > > I also was watching to see if you had a resolution. I am sorry to hear of > your woes. I am also sorry to say I have no suggestions. > > As a simple guy, I would be tempted to do a fresh install and then restore > as little as possible, but restoring Exchange sounds like a nightmare. > > I installed Win7 from Scratch on Sat night on a laptop and it still took me > 12 - 16 hours to get it back up and running. Who pays us for this? > Nobody. > > I am only 41, but I feel old these last few months. > > Mark > > > > On 9 February 2010 16:46, Janet Erbach wrote: > > > I started a thread about a month ago in relation to extremely high > > virtual/physical memory usage on our SBS 2008 server. It looks like the > > issue may be a two-fold one: > > > > 1) We customized our installation of SBS 2008 and did NOT turn on the > > Microsoft Exchange features. We didn't want them. And it's starting to > > look like... > > > > 2) Having Exchange turned off has adversely affected the SBS Monitoring > > Services. SBS Monitoring has not cleaned up after itself properly since > it > > was first installed, and I've found a couple of troubleshooting > references > > that mention making sure two specific Exchange services are running. So > > I'm > > wondering if Monitoring can't clean up after itself without Exchange > > running > > in the background...The Monitoring database has reached it's built-in 4 > gb > > limit, and it generates dozens of errors all day long because of that. > > > > I think that SBS Monitoring is thrashing constantly to try and do what > it's > > supposed to do - and can't, due to database overgrowth. Does anyone know > > how I can go about turning off SBS monitoring completely? Stopping the > > services isn't enough...that has had no effect on memory usage. I can't > > find any helpful info on the issue through my web searches. And, unlike > > SBS 2003, you can't just uninstall SBS Monitoring - it does not appear as > a > > seperate entity in the add/remove programs list. > > > > Or...am I better off starting over and re-installing SBS 2008 from > scratch > > using the default settings so that it SBS 2008 will behave itself? > > > > Janet Erbach > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 9 13:47:21 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:47:21 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002091033v5d0e6eabkcdb15b657a44a6bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ef6ac2c1002090846y30b1ab92s407e8a01ebea66a@mail.gmail.com> <6ef6ac2c1002091033v5d0e6eabkcdb15b657a44a6bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <618B0FE31C584A22B02D54B22D275D2D@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Janet: I guess at this point all we can do is laugh... Have you tried the following link for answers. It will download the htm(l) to your desktop and then you use the web page to link to all sorts of SBS tuning tips. http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/6/1/561c9fd7-0e27-4525-94ec-4d2d38f 61aa3/TSHT_SBS.htm HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:34 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues Thanks, Jim. There IS a resolution, you know, but I'm saving the kerosene and the match for our evil IBM copier... On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Janet: > > A friend who is working on a very similar site, SBS 2008, ran with most of > the defaults when he did the install and even with a full RAID, it still > runs like a dog. My job on this install was to redesign and deploy a new > version of their POS and Estimator application (which I am still working > on...). I have been moving as much of the FE application to the desktop as > possible and migrating the BE to the MS SQL and performance has improved > but > it is still not stellar. > > A client of mine, of which I did the install, has a stand-alone 2008 > server, > with many of the SBS applications installed... MS SQL server 2005, IIS, MS > Exchange (really needs its own server), Active directory, etc... But I use > a > hardware firewall and have 8 GB of RAM. The box probably runs at least > twice > as fast considering the hardware is probably physically slower than the new > SBS box. > > Sorry, to say that and then be of no help to improve your performance but > as > far as I know there may not be any resolution... but if I hear of some > tweaks or fixes you will be immediately informed through a post here. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:47 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] SBS 2008 Performance Issues > > I started a thread about a month ago in relation to extremely high > virtual/physical memory usage on our SBS 2008 server. It looks like the > issue may be a two-fold one: > > 1) We customized our installation of SBS 2008 and did NOT turn on the > Microsoft Exchange features. We didn't want them. And it's starting to > look like... > > 2) Having Exchange turned off has adversely affected the SBS Monitoring > Services. SBS Monitoring has not cleaned up after itself properly since it > was first installed, and I've found a couple of troubleshooting references > that mention making sure two specific Exchange services are running. So > I'm > wondering if Monitoring can't clean up after itself without Exchange > running > in the background...The Monitoring database has reached it's built-in 4 gb > limit, and it generates dozens of errors all day long because of that. > > I think that SBS Monitoring is thrashing constantly to try and do what it's > supposed to do - and can't, due to database overgrowth. Does anyone know > how I can go about turning off SBS monitoring completely? Stopping the > services isn't enough...that has had no effect on memory usage. I can't > find any helpful info on the issue through my web searches. And, unlike > SBS 2003, you can't just uninstall SBS Monitoring - it does not appear as a > seperate entity in the add/remove programs list. > > Or...am I better off starting over and re-installing SBS 2008 from scratch > using the default settings so that it SBS 2008 will behave itself? > > Janet Erbach > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Feb 10 04:13:53 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:13:53 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Network drawing and admin tool Message-ID: Hi Bobby So you are the only one drawing network diagrams without pen and paper?? Anyway, with some help from Experts-Exchange: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Network_Management/Network_Operations/Q_25097664.html I decided to follow your advice after I had located this site: http://www.visguy.com and the sub area: http://www.visguy.com/category/visio-content/shapes/network/ and indeed this page with: "Oblique Connectors For Your 3D Diagrams" http://www.visguy.com/2007/10/29/oblique-connectors-for-your-3d-diagrams/ and read this mandatory article: "Show IP addresses and other information on your Visio network diagrams" http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/visio/HA101515431033.aspx?pid=CH100986851033 I should note that one free tool with lots of excellent features is available: Network Notepad http://www.networknotepad.com/ Thanks for the tip! /gustav >>> bheid at sc.rr.com 31-01-2010 02:49 >>> I don't know if this is still the case, but there was something with Visio where it could document your network. Not sure if it was an add-in or something native to Visio. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:02 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Network drawing and admin tool Hi all Can anyone recommend a good tool to create _and_ maintain a drawing of networks including IP addresses, host- and usernames, passwords, etc? We are about reconfiguring our network and, though tiny compared to a enterprise network, I've found that with two geographic locations, virtual servers, internal/external/remote backup systems with configurations and schedules, admin remote desktop access, LogMeIn accounts, multiple spam filters and mail servers, database servers, ftp server, inside/outside IP addresses, etc., and remote web access for the users to much of this, it's becoming a mess. Ideally I would like to have a drawing I can hand to a skilled techie and he/she would in 10 minutes be able to have a clear idea what to do to perform some task, where to look for log files, where to locate backup configurations for routers, etc. For example, VMware sports an internal or virtual network on a physical machine which can have a quite specific configuration if the virtual servers are for outside access. Most tools I've seen through the years deal with network and physical machines and are not easy to use for virtual machines (which always runs on a physical machine you also need to control). Another example: SOHO routers have these days a web interface but how do you document the setup of such routers? Sometimes you have a quite convoluted system of port redirections and firewall configuration. To make prints of these pages looks somewhat old-fashioned to me. /gustav From marklbreen at gmail.com Wed Feb 10 12:31:32 2010 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:31:32 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Network drawing and admin tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Gustav, thanks for taking the time to post the links here. Mark On 10 February 2010 10:13, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Bobby > > So you are the only one drawing network diagrams without pen and paper?? > Anyway, with some help from Experts-Exchange: > > > http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Network_Management/Network_Operations/Q_25097664.html > > I decided to follow your advice after I had located this site: > > http://www.visguy.com > > and the sub area: > > http://www.visguy.com/category/visio-content/shapes/network/ > > and indeed this page with: > > "Oblique Connectors For Your 3D Diagrams" > http://www.visguy.com/2007/10/29/oblique-connectors-for-your-3d-diagrams/ > > and read this mandatory article: > > "Show IP addresses and other information on your Visio network diagrams" > > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/visio/HA101515431033.aspx?pid=CH100986851033 > > I should note that one free tool with lots of excellent features is > available: > > Network Notepad > http://www.networknotepad.com/ > > Thanks for the tip! > > /gustav > > > >>> bheid at sc.rr.com 31-01-2010 02:49 >>> > I don't know if this is still the case, but there was something with Visio > where it could document your network. Not sure if it was an add-in or > something native to Visio. > > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:02 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] Network drawing and admin tool > > Hi all > > Can anyone recommend a good tool to create _and_ maintain a drawing of > networks including IP addresses, host- and usernames, passwords, etc? > > We are about reconfiguring our network and, though tiny compared to a > enterprise network, I've found that with two geographic locations, virtual > servers, internal/external/remote backup systems with configurations and > schedules, admin remote desktop access, LogMeIn accounts, multiple spam > filters and mail servers, database servers, ftp server, inside/outside IP > addresses, etc., and remote web access for the users to much of this, it's > becoming a mess. > > Ideally I would like to have a drawing I can hand to a skilled techie and > he/she would in 10 minutes be able to have a clear idea what to do to > perform some task, where to look for log files, where to locate backup > configurations for routers, etc. > > For example, VMware sports an internal or virtual network on a physical > machine which can have a quite specific configuration if the virtual > servers > are for outside access. Most tools I've seen through the years deal with > network and physical machines and are not easy to use for virtual machines > (which always runs on a physical machine you also need to control). > > Another example: SOHO routers have these days a web interface but how do > you > document the setup of such routers? Sometimes you have a quite convoluted > system of port redirections and firewall configuration. To make prints of > these pages looks somewhat old-fashioned to me. > > /gustav > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 10 18:30:47 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:30:47 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Network drawing and admin tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65270007603D49B2938EDE3EB5DCB847@creativesystemdesigns.com> Good info Gustav. I am sure I will use it at one point. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:14 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Network drawing and admin tool Hi Bobby So you are the only one drawing network diagrams without pen and paper?? Anyway, with some help from Experts-Exchange: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Network_Management/Network_Operat ions/Q_25097664.html I decided to follow your advice after I had located this site: http://www.visguy.com and the sub area: http://www.visguy.com/category/visio-content/shapes/network/ and indeed this page with: "Oblique Connectors For Your 3D Diagrams" http://www.visguy.com/2007/10/29/oblique-connectors-for-your-3d-diagrams/ and read this mandatory article: "Show IP addresses and other information on your Visio network diagrams" http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/visio/HA101515431033.aspx?pid=CH1009868510 33 I should note that one free tool with lots of excellent features is available: Network Notepad http://www.networknotepad.com/ Thanks for the tip! /gustav >>> bheid at sc.rr.com 31-01-2010 02:49 >>> I don't know if this is still the case, but there was something with Visio where it could document your network. Not sure if it was an add-in or something native to Visio. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:02 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Network drawing and admin tool Hi all Can anyone recommend a good tool to create _and_ maintain a drawing of networks including IP addresses, host- and usernames, passwords, etc? We are about reconfiguring our network and, though tiny compared to a enterprise network, I've found that with two geographic locations, virtual servers, internal/external/remote backup systems with configurations and schedules, admin remote desktop access, LogMeIn accounts, multiple spam filters and mail servers, database servers, ftp server, inside/outside IP addresses, etc., and remote web access for the users to much of this, it's becoming a mess. Ideally I would like to have a drawing I can hand to a skilled techie and he/she would in 10 minutes be able to have a clear idea what to do to perform some task, where to look for log files, where to locate backup configurations for routers, etc. For example, VMware sports an internal or virtual network on a physical machine which can have a quite specific configuration if the virtual servers are for outside access. Most tools I've seen through the years deal with network and physical machines and are not easy to use for virtual machines (which always runs on a physical machine you also need to control). Another example: SOHO routers have these days a web interface but how do you document the setup of such routers? Sometimes you have a quite convoluted system of port redirections and firewall configuration. To make prints of these pages looks somewhat old-fashioned to me. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 10 21:57:10 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:57:10 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mathematics and Websites In-Reply-To: <65270007603D49B2938EDE3EB5DCB847@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <65270007603D49B2938EDE3EB5DCB847@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <73CC49397AE44B87A7E5C8154EEC40F1@creativesystemdesigns.com> The following link is a very interesting one. Here is a fellow making a pitch about how good web site design and good mathematics work together: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/02/09/applying-mathematics-to-web-desig n Jim From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Feb 11 03:32:54 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:32:54 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mathematics and Websites Message-ID: Thanks Jim! I love both math and design so this will be bookmarked. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-02-2010 04:57 >>> The following link is a very interesting one. Here is a fellow making a pitch about how good web site design and good mathematics work together: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/02/09/applying-mathematics-to-web-design Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 11 12:51:50 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:51:50 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Parallelism in coding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2B5B0623235E4B3096143D12E1241579@creativesystemdesigns.com> Coding in the new frontier. Many systems people in Microsoft and else where believe that building applications that can run across multiple cores and CPUs is the future of programming... Traditionally, parallel processing or Parallelism is extremely difficult to design in but MS claims that their new version of 2010 Visual Studio will make develop in this discipline straight forward and easy. To that end MS is giving free webinars: http://www.msdev.com/Directory/Description.aspx?eventId=1647 Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Feb 12 14:38:58 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:38:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Controls in an Excel sheet Message-ID: <5A7F70AB09CF47B39BDA685D9687749E@SusanOne> I've never worked with controls in a sheet before. Today, I added a checkbox to a sheet and it was easy enough to get it working. But then, I moved some things and I wanted to move the checkbox too... I can't do it. I can't grab it, I can't figure out how to unlock it. While I was working with it earlier, it was visible in the VBE under the Sheet properties, but not it isn't. I ran code to unlocked it, but that didn't work. I just want to unlock it, move it, and lock it again. Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Feb 12 14:43:58 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:43:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nevermind( Controls in an Excel sheet) Message-ID: <2758DDDB0AA842359DE899205ADF6BDB@SusanOne> As always happens... answer was right there within seconds of pressing Send! Susan H. > I've never worked with controls in a sheet before. Today, I added a > checkbox to a sheet and it was easy enough to get it working. But then, I > moved some things and I wanted to move the checkbox too... I can't do it. > I can't grab it, I can't figure out how to unlock it. > > While I was working with it earlier, it was visible in the VBE under the > Sheet properties, but not it isn't. > > I ran code to unlocked it, but that didn't work. I just want to unlock it, > move it, and lock it again. > > Susan H. From gustav at cactus.dk Sun Feb 14 12:13:28 2010 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:13:28 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups Message-ID: Hi all Should any of feel tempted to use Second Copy, here's a small tip: If you miss the feature that only the log for the current run is e-mailed to you, one method is to adjust the profile to run this program (the command file "run_pre.cmd") before the profile is executed. First, however, adjust the profile.dat file to save the log file as text by including this line in the section [Options]: LogFileType=txt ---Begin of File run_pre.cmd %echo off rem Command file run_pre.cmd by Cactus Data ApS, CPH. rem Version 1.1, 2010-02-14. rem Tested for Windows 2003. May need tweaking for other OS. rem Specify folder holding the log file. set logpath="%userprofile%\local settings\application data\centered systems\second copy" rem Change directory to that of the log file. cd %logpath% rem First run. rem The backup log file does not exist. Create it and insert the initial line. rem Adjust n in ~0,n to match the length of your time format. if not exist log_back.txt echo %date% %time:~0,8% ! Init: Log file initialized > log_back.txt rem First run. rem If the log file of the last session doesn't exist, exit. if not exist log.txt goto exit rem Append the previous log file to the backup log file. copy /b log_back.txt+log.txt > nul rem Delete the previous log file so Second Copy will create a new and empty. del log.txt :exit rem Clean up. set logpath= rem End of file. ---End of File run_pre.cmd Save the file in the SecCopy folder. /gustav >>> Gustav at cactus.dk 29-01-2010 17:54 >>> Hi all Sadly, we had to give up on DeltaCopy and rsync. This is just not a combo for Windows machines with a WAN in between - to many protocol sync errors, troubles with security settings on folders, and an installation and configuration task that takes a top notch techie _days_ for tweaking and testing. It just doesn't pay off. HOWever, we found a small gem, Gbridge: http://www.gbridge.com/ This is a unique combo of VPN connection with authentication via your Google account, a backup program, a folder sync, a secure web interface to your file store, remote control (with a little help from VNC), and extensive logging - at zero cost. The only feature missing is some method to e-mail a summarized report of the happenings. You can connect any count of machines both from your intranet and remote invited machines, you could even build an extranet with this tiny tool. This we use for backing up to a remote location (my home). In addition we backup to a local machine using Second Copy: http://www.centered.com/ This is not free but cheap and features archiving of previous versions of files when updated at the main server. Finally the main server is backed via MySecureBackup to "the cloud" at Amazon. Everything is run an controlled from a dedicated backup station (actually an old laptop with an external drive). So now we have a setup for backing up the main file server: 1. Server to local backup station via Second Copy 2. Backup station to remote location via Gbridge 3. Server to the cloud via MySecureBackup This forms a 2? way backup setup (2. will fail if 1. fails) which is satisfactory as a 2 way system is minimum in case one system should fail. If you change the main server (NetWare at the moment) to a Windows Server, Gbridge could run on that and you had a 3 way setup. Of course, the backup station represents a single point of possible failure but for operation only, not for storage. If that is a concern, the operations of this machine could be split onto two machines or even three. Further, with a Windows Server you could activate its default shadow copying backup for a fourth backup system suited for a system recovery where the above backup setup is for file backup only. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Feb 15 07:46:57 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:46:57 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <04AED82225A5424B80A774B455511B3B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Good to see that you are working through the 'features'. Does it seem like a reliable and stable product? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:13 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups Hi all Should any of feel tempted to use Second Copy, here's a small tip: If you miss the feature that only the log for the current run is e-mailed to you, one method is to adjust the profile to run this program (the command file "run_pre.cmd") before the profile is executed. First, however, adjust the profile.dat file to save the log file as text by including this line in the section [Options]: LogFileType=txt ---Begin of File run_pre.cmd %echo off rem Command file run_pre.cmd by Cactus Data ApS, CPH. rem Version 1.1, 2010-02-14. rem Tested for Windows 2003. May need tweaking for other OS. rem Specify folder holding the log file. set logpath="%userprofile%\local settings\application data\centered systems\second copy" rem Change directory to that of the log file. cd %logpath% rem First run. rem The backup log file does not exist. Create it and insert the initial line. rem Adjust n in ~0,n to match the length of your time format. if not exist log_back.txt echo %date% %time:~0,8% ! Init: Log file initialized > log_back.txt rem First run. rem If the log file of the last session doesn't exist, exit. if not exist log.txt goto exit rem Append the previous log file to the backup log file. copy /b log_back.txt+log.txt > nul rem Delete the previous log file so Second Copy will create a new and empty. del log.txt :exit rem Clean up. set logpath= rem End of file. ---End of File run_pre.cmd Save the file in the SecCopy folder. /gustav >>> Gustav at cactus.dk 29-01-2010 17:54 >>> Hi all Sadly, we had to give up on DeltaCopy and rsync. This is just not a combo for Windows machines with a WAN in between - to many protocol sync errors, troubles with security settings on folders, and an installation and configuration task that takes a top notch techie _days_ for tweaking and testing. It just doesn't pay off. HOWever, we found a small gem, Gbridge: http://www.gbridge.com/ This is a unique combo of VPN connection with authentication via your Google account, a backup program, a folder sync, a secure web interface to your file store, remote control (with a little help from VNC), and extensive logging - at zero cost. The only feature missing is some method to e-mail a summarized report of the happenings. You can connect any count of machines both from your intranet and remote invited machines, you could even build an extranet with this tiny tool. This we use for backing up to a remote location (my home). In addition we backup to a local machine using Second Copy: http://www.centered.com/ This is not free but cheap and features archiving of previous versions of files when updated at the main server. Finally the main server is backed via MySecureBackup to "the cloud" at Amazon. Everything is run an controlled from a dedicated backup station (actually an old laptop with an external drive). So now we have a setup for backing up the main file server: 1. Server to local backup station via Second Copy 2. Backup station to remote location via Gbridge 3. Server to the cloud via MySecureBackup This forms a 2? way backup setup (2. will fail if 1. fails) which is satisfactory as a 2 way system is minimum in case one system should fail. If you change the main server (NetWare at the moment) to a Windows Server, Gbridge could run on that and you had a 3 way setup. Of course, the backup station represents a single point of possible failure but for operation only, not for storage. If that is a concern, the operations of this machine could be split onto two machines or even three. Further, with a Windows Server you could activate its default shadow copying backup for a fourth backup system suited for a system recovery where the above backup setup is for file backup only. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Feb 17 02:47:09 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:47:09 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerShell Message-ID: Hi all Anyone using PowerShell for something serious? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/scriptcenter/dd742419.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd835506(VS.85).aspx Also, look in the first minutes of the video link from Shamil: http://www.vimeo.com/6783783 how a GUI datagrid can be brought to screen with a few clicks. I have only browsed those pages very very quickly and it looks quite powerful, but am reluctant at spending time on yet another fun item of little practical use. /gustav From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Feb 17 03:14:54 2010 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:14:54 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerShell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Gustav It is the preferred managed tool for SharePoint 2010 and Windows Server 2008 R". It is a serious tool and I would guess its use will grow. We use it a lot for SharePoint management and I would expect this use to again increase. martin Martin WP Reid Information Services The Library at Queen's Tel : 02890976174 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Sharepoint Training Portal ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock [Gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: 17 February 2010 08:47 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerShell Hi all Anyone using PowerShell for something serious? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/scriptcenter/dd742419.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd835506(VS.85).aspx Also, look in the first minutes of the video link from Shamil: http://www.vimeo.com/6783783 how a GUI datagrid can be brought to screen with a few clicks. I have only browsed those pages very very quickly and it looks quite powerful, but am reluctant at spending time on yet another fun item of little practical use. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at sc.rr.com Wed Feb 17 16:57:40 2010 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:57:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerShell In-Reply-To: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> It can also be used for SQL Server (at least 2008). Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:15 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PowerShell Gustav It is the preferred managed tool for SharePoint 2010 and Windows Server 2008 R". It is a serious tool and I would guess its use will grow. We use it a lot for SharePoint management and I would expect this use to again increase. martin Martin WP Reid Information Services The Library at Queen's Tel : 02890976174 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Sharepoint Training Portal ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock [Gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: 17 February 2010 08:47 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerShell Hi all Anyone using PowerShell for something serious? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/scriptcenter/dd742419.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd835506(VS.85).aspx Also, look in the first minutes of the video link from Shamil: http://www.vimeo.com/6783783 how a GUI datagrid can be brought to screen with a few clicks. I have only browsed those pages very very quickly and it looks quite powerful, but am reluctant at spending time on yet another fun item of little practical use. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 17 21:16:21 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:16:21 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Programmers In-Reply-To: <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> Message-ID: <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> Watch out for which type of programmer comes to visit and... How do you trap a Scheme programmer in the shower? Hand him a bottle of shampoo. How do you trap a Visual Basic programmer in the shower? Hide the widget that opens the curtain. How do you trap a BASIC programmer in the shower? Use silicone to attach his Commodore-64 to the tile. How do you trap an Assembly programmer in the shower? Well, first he has to build the shower... How do you trap a Java programmer in the shower? Convince him there's an exitShower() method somewhere and laugh while he pores through the documentation. How do you trap a Python programmer in the shower? Tell him Guido wants him to stay there. How do you trap a C programmer in the shower? Don't try. He'll overflow the tub and take control of your house. Hope this helps Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 17 21:19:54 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:19:54 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerShell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <822C30DEE38949E9B50BD5D38E214B22@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: This will be very useful... Right now I am trying to automate the installation of GhostWrite and CutePDF across a network. Has anyone built a tried and proven script for this process? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:47 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerShell Hi all Anyone using PowerShell for something serious? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/scriptcenter/dd742419.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd835506(VS.85).aspx Also, look in the first minutes of the video link from Shamil: http://www.vimeo.com/6783783 how a GUI datagrid can be brought to screen with a few clicks. I have only browsed those pages very very quickly and it looks quite powerful, but am reluctant at spending time on yet another fun item of little practical use. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Feb 17 21:29:28 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:29:28 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerShell In-Reply-To: <822C30DEE38949E9B50BD5D38E214B22@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <822C30DEE38949E9B50BD5D38E214B22@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4B7CB418.16404.14D84F45@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I prefer to use AutoIt for that sort of automation. Lets you trap windows, simulate mouse movements and clicks, keystrokes etc -- Stuart On 17 Feb 2010 at 19:19, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Gustav: > > This will be very useful... Right now I am trying to automate the > installation of GhostWrite and CutePDF across a network. > > Has anyone built a tried and proven script for this process? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:47 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerShell > > Hi all > > Anyone using PowerShell for something serious? > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/scriptcenter/dd742419.aspx > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd835506(VS.85).aspx > > Also, look in the first minutes of the video link from Shamil: > > http://www.vimeo.com/6783783 > > how a GUI datagrid can be brought to screen with a few clicks. > > I have only browsed those pages very very quickly and it looks quite > powerful, but am reluctant at spending time on yet another fun item of > little practical use. > > /gustav > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Thu Feb 18 03:38:50 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:38:50 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4b7d0ace.1c07d00a.7c0c.ffff8bc1@mx.google.com> Gustav, I wonder what you would think of this as a backup? http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/window-on-windows/?p=2091&tag=nl.e064 Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 14 February 2010 18:13 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups Hi all Should any of feel tempted to use Second Copy, here's a small tip: If you miss the feature that only the log for the current run is e-mailed to you, one method is to adjust the profile to run this program (the command file "run_pre.cmd") before the profile is executed. First, however, adjust the profile.dat file to save the log file as text by including this line in the section [Options]: LogFileType=txt ---Begin of File run_pre.cmd %echo off rem Command file run_pre.cmd by Cactus Data ApS, CPH. rem Version 1.1, 2010-02-14. rem Tested for Windows 2003. May need tweaking for other OS. rem Specify folder holding the log file. set logpath="%userprofile%\local settings\application data\centered systems\second copy" rem Change directory to that of the log file. cd %logpath% rem First run. rem The backup log file does not exist. Create it and insert the initial line. rem Adjust n in ~0,n to match the length of your time format. if not exist log_back.txt echo %date% %time:~0,8% ! Init: Log file initialized > log_back.txt rem First run. rem If the log file of the last session doesn't exist, exit. if not exist log.txt goto exit rem Append the previous log file to the backup log file. copy /b log_back.txt+log.txt > nul rem Delete the previous log file so Second Copy will create a new and empty. del log.txt :exit rem Clean up. set logpath= rem End of file. ---End of File run_pre.cmd Save the file in the SecCopy folder. /gustav >>> Gustav at cactus.dk 29-01-2010 17:54 >>> Hi all Sadly, we had to give up on DeltaCopy and rsync. This is just not a combo for Windows machines with a WAN in between - to many protocol sync errors, troubles with security settings on folders, and an installation and configuration task that takes a top notch techie _days_ for tweaking and testing. It just doesn't pay off. HOWever, we found a small gem, Gbridge: http://www.gbridge.com/ This is a unique combo of VPN connection with authentication via your Google account, a backup program, a folder sync, a secure web interface to your file store, remote control (with a little help from VNC), and extensive logging - at zero cost. The only feature missing is some method to e-mail a summarized report of the happenings. You can connect any count of machines both from your intranet and remote invited machines, you could even build an extranet with this tiny tool. This we use for backing up to a remote location (my home). In addition we backup to a local machine using Second Copy: http://www.centered.com/ This is not free but cheap and features archiving of previous versions of files when updated at the main server. Finally the main server is backed via MySecureBackup to "the cloud" at Amazon. Everything is run an controlled from a dedicated backup station (actually an old laptop with an external drive). So now we have a setup for backing up the main file server: 1. Server to local backup station via Second Copy 2. Backup station to remote location via Gbridge 3. Server to the cloud via MySecureBackup This forms a 2? way backup setup (2. will fail if 1. fails) which is satisfactory as a 2 way system is minimum in case one system should fail. If you change the main server (NetWare at the moment) to a Windows Server, Gbridge could run on that and you had a 3 way setup. Of course, the backup station represents a single point of possible failure but for operation only, not for storage. If that is a concern, the operations of this machine could be split onto two machines or even three. Further, with a Windows Server you could activate its default shadow copying backup for a fourth backup system suited for a system recovery where the above backup setup is for file backup only. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Feb 18 03:57:25 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:57:25 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups Message-ID: Hi Max That is an interesting approach - though for backup of local data only, I guess - and I would be reluctant to install it on a server. Besides, the server will have to be a Windows server and our file servers are NetWare and Linux. But for a stand-alone Windows workstation it would be worth considering. /gustav >>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 18-02-2010 10:38 >>> Gustav, I wonder what you would think of this as a backup? http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/window-on-windows/?p=2091&tag=nl.e064 Max From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Feb 18 08:16:37 2010 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:16:37 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Programmers In-Reply-To: <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk><000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> That helped a lot! :-) Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Programmers Watch out for which type of programmer comes to visit and... How do you trap a Scheme programmer in the shower? Hand him a bottle of shampoo. How do you trap a Visual Basic programmer in the shower? Hide the widget that opens the curtain. How do you trap a BASIC programmer in the shower? Use silicone to attach his Commodore-64 to the tile. How do you trap an Assembly programmer in the shower? Well, first he has to build the shower... How do you trap a Java programmer in the shower? Convince him there's an exitShower() method somewhere and laugh while he pores through the documentation. How do you trap a Python programmer in the shower? Tell him Guido wants him to stay there. How do you trap a C programmer in the shower? Don't try. He'll overflow the tub and take control of your house. Hope this helps Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Thu Feb 18 08:22:02 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:22:02 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Programmers In-Reply-To: <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk><000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> Message-ID: <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> In that case, try this.. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/tech-manager/?p=3023&tag=nl.e106 max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: 18 February 2010 14:17 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Programmers That helped a lot! :-) Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:16 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Programmers Watch out for which type of programmer comes to visit and... How do you trap a Scheme programmer in the shower? Hand him a bottle of shampoo. How do you trap a Visual Basic programmer in the shower? Hide the widget that opens the curtain. How do you trap a BASIC programmer in the shower? Use silicone to attach his Commodore-64 to the tile. How do you trap an Assembly programmer in the shower? Well, first he has to build the shower... How do you trap a Java programmer in the shower? Convince him there's an exitShower() method somewhere and laugh while he pores through the documentation. How do you trap a Python programmer in the shower? Tell him Guido wants him to stay there. How do you trap a C programmer in the shower? Don't try. He'll overflow the tub and take control of your house. Hope this helps Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 19 09:33:20 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:33:20 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto In-Reply-To: <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Here is a link to all that is known about our strange little planet/non-planet at the edges of our solar system... and today is its birthday of discovery: http://www.neatorama.com/2010/02/18/happy-birthday-pluto Jim From jerbach at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 09:49:56 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:49:56 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto In-Reply-To: References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> Well, well, well...so the Disney dog was named after the planet! I thought it was just a coincidence! Heinlein wrote a very charming and suspensful young adult novel called 'Have Space Suit Will Travel'; quite a bit of the story's action takes place on Pluto, but I don't recommened reading it in the winter unless you're wrapped in an electric blanket... Janet Erbach On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Here is a link to all that is known about our strange little > planet/non-planet at the edges of our solar system... and today is its > birthday of discovery: > > http://www.neatorama.com/2010/02/18/happy-birthday-pluto > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 19 11:03:01 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:03:01 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Did you look at the bottom of the article and realize that the whole page was being held up by elephants standing on the back of a giant tortoise? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:50 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto Well, well, well...so the Disney dog was named after the planet! I thought it was just a coincidence! Heinlein wrote a very charming and suspensful young adult novel called 'Have Space Suit Will Travel'; quite a bit of the story's action takes place on Pluto, but I don't recommened reading it in the winter unless you're wrapped in an electric blanket... Janet Erbach On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Here is a link to all that is known about our strange little > planet/non-planet at the edges of our solar system... and today is its > birthday of discovery: > > http://www.neatorama.com/2010/02/18/happy-birthday-pluto > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jerbach at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 11:15:37 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:15:37 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto In-Reply-To: References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002190915i7923fd89o90020bc2f9fd456e@mail.gmail.com> No, I didn't!! Were the elephants and the tortoise all pock-marked by meteor impacts? Hail to thee, O fellow Pratchett fan! On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Did you look at the bottom of the article and realize that the whole page > was being held up by elephants standing on the back of a giant tortoise? > ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:50 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto > > Well, well, well...so the Disney dog was named after the planet! I thought > it was just a coincidence! Heinlein wrote a very charming and suspensful > young adult novel called 'Have Space Suit Will Travel'; quite a bit of the > story's action takes place on Pluto, but I don't recommened reading it in > the winter unless you're wrapped in an electric blanket... > > Janet Erbach > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Here is a link to all that is known about our strange little > > planet/non-planet at the edges of our solar system... and today is its > > birthday of discovery: > > > > http://www.neatorama.com/2010/02/18/happy-birthday-pluto > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jerbach at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 11:39:22 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:39:22 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto In-Reply-To: References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> Pluto's chaotic orbit explained... http://www.swerbach.com/mirrorimage/pratchett/atuin_pluto.jpg On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Did you look at the bottom of the article and realize that the whole page > was being held up by elephants standing on the back of a giant tortoise? > ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:50 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto > > Well, well, well...so the Disney dog was named after the planet! I thought > it was just a coincidence! Heinlein wrote a very charming and suspensful > young adult novel called 'Have Space Suit Will Travel'; quite a bit of the > story's action takes place on Pluto, but I don't recommened reading it in > the winter unless you're wrapped in an electric blanket... > > Janet Erbach > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Here is a link to all that is known about our strange little > > planet/non-planet at the edges of our solar system... and today is its > > birthday of discovery: > > > > http://www.neatorama.com/2010/02/18/happy-birthday-pluto > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 19 12:10:19 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:10:19 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We do all our graphics in Photoshop and Illustrator and have for years. Has anyone heard of the company ACD that makes a variety of graphic products? Until yesterday I had heard nothing about them but they are actually a company out of Victoria (probably hiding somewhere is the Saanich area/municipality... a large rural farm area spotted with various tech companies.) My wife has been offered a free package... when she was talking to one of the owners/programmers yesterday at a FCA (Federation of Canadian Artists) chapter meeting. Do they have good products? Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 19 12:11:29 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:11:29 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5AF27BBC3AB349C5B3DF451E17B7960C@creativesystemdesigns.com> So now I know. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:39 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto Pluto's chaotic orbit explained... http://www.swerbach.com/mirrorimage/pratchett/atuin_pluto.jpg On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Did you look at the bottom of the article and realize that the whole page > was being held up by elephants standing on the back of a giant tortoise? > ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:50 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Happy birthday Pluto > > Well, well, well...so the Disney dog was named after the planet! I thought > it was just a coincidence! Heinlein wrote a very charming and suspensful > young adult novel called 'Have Space Suit Will Travel'; quite a bit of the > story's action takes place on Pluto, but I don't recommened reading it in > the winter unless you're wrapped in an electric blanket... > > Janet Erbach > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Here is a link to all that is known about our strange little > > planet/non-planet at the edges of our solar system... and today is its > > birthday of discovery: > > > > http://www.neatorama.com/2010/02/18/happy-birthday-pluto > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jerbach at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 12:21:54 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:21:54 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application In-Reply-To: References: <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002191021n2f9cf170kc666fcbfda3ed586@mail.gmail.com> I've never heard of it, but since I'm a hardcore Corel Draw/Photopaint user that's not suprising. If the package is free, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't test drive it. My main photo editing software is photopaint, but there are times I will use Paint.net (a freebie) to apply certain filters or artistic effects more quickly than I could do them in Photopaint. If you guys do end up trying out the ACD software, post again to say how you liked it - I'd be curious to know the pros and cons of it. Janet On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > We do all our graphics in Photoshop and Illustrator and have for years. > > Has anyone heard of the company ACD that makes a variety of graphic > products? Until yesterday I had heard nothing about them but they are > actually a company out of Victoria (probably hiding somewhere is the > Saanich > area/municipality... a large rural farm area spotted with various tech > companies.) > > My wife has been offered a free package... when she was talking to one of > the owners/programmers yesterday at a FCA (Federation of Canadian Artists) > chapter meeting. > > Do they have good products? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com Fri Feb 19 13:35:58 2010 From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:35:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application In-Reply-To: References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Typo alert "did all kinds of", not "all kids of" :-) Lambert -----Original Message----- From: Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:31 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Graphic application ACD made a quite nice little graphic viewer called ACDSee, which up to and including version 5.0 was pretty useful, though it did not understand and RAW format files that various cameras create. Also included in the package was a very basic editor called FotoCanvas Lite However, after version 5 they did all kids of (to me) weird things to the interface that just make life confusing and I stopped paying any attention to it. Considering they started out several years behind Adobe and Corel I have my doubts if their current offerings are even close. But take a look here... http://www.acdsee.com/ Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:10 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application We do all our graphics in Photoshop and Illustrator and have for years. Has anyone heard of the company ACD that makes a variety of graphic products? Until yesterday I had heard nothing about them but they are actually a company out of Victoria (probably hiding somewhere is the Saanich area/municipality... a large rural farm area spotted with various tech companies.) My wife has been offered a free package... when she was talking to one of the owners/programmers yesterday at a FCA (Federation of Canadian Artists) chapter meeting. Do they have good products? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 19 13:54:23 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:54:23 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c1002191021n2f9cf170kc666fcbfda3ed586@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> <6ef6ac2c1002191021n2f9cf170kc666fcbfda3ed586@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <393833AA84374881A065B453669C8D86@creativesystemdesigns.com> I do not think it is free, it is just that it is free to Maria, at least one copy to a smooth talking lady. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:22 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Graphic application I've never heard of it, but since I'm a hardcore Corel Draw/Photopaint user that's not suprising. If the package is free, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't test drive it. My main photo editing software is photopaint, but there are times I will use Paint.net (a freebie) to apply certain filters or artistic effects more quickly than I could do them in Photopaint. If you guys do end up trying out the ACD software, post again to say how you liked it - I'd be curious to know the pros and cons of it. Janet On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > We do all our graphics in Photoshop and Illustrator and have for years. > > Has anyone heard of the company ACD that makes a variety of graphic > products? Until yesterday I had heard nothing about them but they are > actually a company out of Victoria (probably hiding somewhere is the > Saanich > area/municipality... a large rural farm area spotted with various tech > companies.) > > My wife has been offered a free package... when she was talking to one of > the owners/programmers yesterday at a FCA (Federation of Canadian Artists) > chapter meeting. > > Do they have good products? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 19 13:56:19 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:56:19 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application In-Reply-To: References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8B00DBD972F54D1EBB59FCC459C33B3C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Typing too fast and not bothering with spell checks does have that effect... luckily nothing was lost in translation. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:36 AM To: Heenan, Lambert; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Graphic application Typo alert "did all kinds of", not "all kids of" :-) Lambert -----Original Message----- From: Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:31 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Graphic application ACD made a quite nice little graphic viewer called ACDSee, which up to and including version 5.0 was pretty useful, though it did not understand and RAW format files that various cameras create. Also included in the package was a very basic editor called FotoCanvas Lite However, after version 5 they did all kids of (to me) weird things to the interface that just make life confusing and I stopped paying any attention to it. Considering they started out several years behind Adobe and Corel I have my doubts if their current offerings are even close. But take a look here... http://www.acdsee.com/ Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:10 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application We do all our graphics in Photoshop and Illustrator and have for years. Has anyone heard of the company ACD that makes a variety of graphic products? Until yesterday I had heard nothing about them but they are actually a company out of Victoria (probably hiding somewhere is the Saanich area/municipality... a large rural farm area spotted with various tech companies.) My wife has been offered a free package... when she was talking to one of the owners/programmers yesterday at a FCA (Federation of Canadian Artists) chapter meeting. Do they have good products? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Feb 19 15:27:38 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:27:38 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application In-Reply-To: References: , <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: <4B7F024A.10114.1DD9D5E1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I used to use ACDSee many years ago - it was quite popular at one time. I didn't realise they were still around. -- Stuart On 19 Feb 2010 at 10:10, Jim Lawrence wrote: > We do all our graphics in Photoshop and Illustrator and have for years. > > Has anyone heard of the company ACD that makes a variety of graphic > products? Until yesterday I had heard nothing about them but they are > actually a company out of Victoria (probably hiding somewhere is the Saanich > area/municipality... a large rural farm area spotted with various tech > companies.) > > My wife has been offered a free package... when she was talking to one of > the owners/programmers yesterday at a FCA (Federation of Canadian Artists) > chapter meeting. > > Do they have good products? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Feb 19 15:32:13 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:32:13 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application In-Reply-To: <393833AA84374881A065B453669C8D86@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <6ef6ac2c1002191021n2f9cf170kc666fcbfda3ed586@mail.gmail.com>, <393833AA84374881A065B453669C8D86@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4B7F035D.2208.1DDE0643@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> http://store.acdsee.com/store/acd/DisplayHomePage/Locale.en_US/Currency.USD Did they offer her the $30 or the $350-650 product. I see they are also "Laplink" - another blast from the past! -- Stuart On 19 Feb 2010 at 11:54, Jim Lawrence wrote: > I do not think it is free, it is just that it is free to Maria, at least one > copy to a smooth talking lady. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:22 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Graphic application > > I've never heard of it, but since I'm a hardcore Corel Draw/Photopaint user > that's not suprising. If the package is free, I don't see any reason why > you shouldn't test drive it. My main photo editing software is photopaint, > but there are times I will use Paint.net (a freebie) to apply certain > filters or artistic effects more quickly than I could do them in > Photopaint. If you guys do end up trying out the ACD software, post again > to say how you liked it - I'd be curious to know the pros and cons of it. > > Janet > > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > We do all our graphics in Photoshop and Illustrator and have for years. > > > > Has anyone heard of the company ACD that makes a variety of graphic > > products? Until yesterday I had heard nothing about them but they are > > actually a company out of Victoria (probably hiding somewhere is the > > Saanich > > area/municipality... a large rural farm area spotted with various tech > > companies.) > > > > My wife has been offered a free package... when she was talking to one of > > the owners/programmers yesterday at a FCA (Federation of Canadian Artists) > > chapter meeting. > > > > Do they have good products? > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 16:00:52 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:00:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2003 sp 3 Message-ID: An Excel reader is having trouble since installing sp 3 -- specifically, her colored fonts disappear when she presses Enter. I'm going to do a little research, but is this something any of you have encountered? Susan H. From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com Fri Feb 19 13:31:13 2010 From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:31:13 +0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application In-Reply-To: References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087C9F@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <000601cab024$9b46f370$d1d4da50$@rr.com> <146EF648BD264EA2B0538A3C617AD422@creativesystemdesigns.com> <66780ADFA4524EF098500D8DCF65BB8E@danwaters> <4b7d4d47.1358560a.7005.6cbf@mx.google.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190749g5b2a4a8clc90b7e3fdd03fdd9@mail.gmail.com> <6ef6ac2c1002190939y1ca9bbb6nc2ed0dfb197bc9f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ACD made a quite nice little graphic viewer called ACDSee, which up to and including version 5.0 was pretty useful, though it did not understand and RAW format files that various cameras create. Also included in the package was a very basic editor called FotoCanvas Lite However, after version 5 they did all kids of (to me) weird things to the interface that just make life confusing and I stopped paying any attention to it. Considering they started out several years behind Adobe and Corel I have my doubts if their current offerings are even close. But take a look here... http://www.acdsee.com/ Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:10 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Graphic application We do all our graphics in Photoshop and Illustrator and have for years. Has anyone heard of the company ACD that makes a variety of graphic products? Until yesterday I had heard nothing about them but they are actually a company out of Victoria (probably hiding somewhere is the Saanich area/municipality... a large rural farm area spotted with various tech companies.) My wife has been offered a free package... when she was talking to one of the owners/programmers yesterday at a FCA (Federation of Canadian Artists) chapter meeting. Do they have good products? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From erbachs at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 16:36:55 2010 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:36:55 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Open With Message-ID: <39cb22f31002191436v40159930la46bb6e13e2735de@mail.gmail.com> Dear Group, I'm trying to fix a PC belonging to a friend. If I'm logged in as Administrator everything works fine. But when I log in under my friend's login (Administrator privileges) almost nothing works. That is, when I click the Microsoft Word 2003 shortcut on the Start menu or even if I double-click Winword.exe in the MS Office folder, I get a dialog box titled "Open With" saying "Choose the program you want to use to open this file: WINWORD.EXE. That dialog box appears for nearly every program. Alternately I'll see a small dialog box: Error Application not found None of the normal System Tray icons appear either. Sometimes I've seen the message "C:\Windows\System32\Rundll32.exe not found" or something similar. I can choose Run As... for these applications and run as Administrator and things are OK. Of course, the My Documents folder is for the Administrator login, not my friend's. I've run MalwareBytes, AVG, and Registry Mechanic as Administrator. I've found and fixed plenty of stuff, but this "Application not found" or "Choose the program you want..." continues to happen. Any ideas? Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI From garykjos at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 16:54:03 2010 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:54:03 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2003 sp 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It doesn't seem to do that for me. GK On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > An Excel reader is having trouble since installing sp 3 -- specifically, her > colored fonts disappear when she presses Enter. I'm going to do a little > research, but is this something any of you have encountered? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 17:07:33 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:07:33 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Open With In-Reply-To: <39cb22f31002191436v40159930la46bb6e13e2735de@mail.gmail.com> References: <39cb22f31002191436v40159930la46bb6e13e2735de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b7f19c6.1c07d00a.3ed7.4601@mx.google.com> All I can think of Steve, is to log in as Admin. Delete the user. Recreate the user with Admin privs. Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: 19 February 2010 22:37 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Open With Dear Group, I'm trying to fix a PC belonging to a friend. If I'm logged in as Administrator everything works fine. But when I log in under my friend's login (Administrator privileges) almost nothing works. That is, when I click the Microsoft Word 2003 shortcut on the Start menu or even if I double-click Winword.exe in the MS Office folder, I get a dialog box titled "Open With" saying "Choose the program you want to use to open this file: WINWORD.EXE. That dialog box appears for nearly every program. Alternately I'll see a small dialog box: Error Application not found None of the normal System Tray icons appear either. Sometimes I've seen the message "C:\Windows\System32\Rundll32.exe not found" or something similar. I can choose Run As... for these applications and run as Administrator and things are OK. Of course, the My Documents folder is for the Administrator login, not my friend's. I've run MalwareBytes, AVG, and Registry Mechanic as Administrator. I've found and fixed plenty of stuff, but this "Application not found" or "Choose the program you want..." continues to happen. Any ideas? Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 17:47:45 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:47:45 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Office 2003 sp 3 References: Message-ID: <428584BB5F4C4510A958D6CA5B044F4D@SusanOne> I haven't had any problems either. Susan H. > It doesn't seem to do that for me. > > GK > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Susan Harkins > wrote: >> An Excel reader is having trouble since installing sp 3 -- specifically, >> her >> colored fonts disappear when she presses Enter. I'm going to do a little >> research, but is this something any of you have encountered? >> >> Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From erbachs at gmail.com Sat Feb 20 07:23:55 2010 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:23:55 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Open With In-Reply-To: <4b7f19c6.1c07d00a.3ed7.4601@mx.google.com> References: <39cb22f31002191436v40159930la46bb6e13e2735de@mail.gmail.com> <4b7f19c6.1c07d00a.3ed7.4601@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <39cb22f31002200523i44f9024dxced0cf6dcf670a94@mail.gmail.com> Max, Well, I haven't come up with anything better after running Registry Mechanic and Trend Micro's Housecall... I might give that a shot. Thank you. Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > All I can think of Steve, is to log in as Admin. Delete the user. Recreate > the user with Admin privs. > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: 19 February 2010 22:37 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Open With > > Dear Group, > > I'm trying to fix a PC belonging to a friend. If I'm logged in as > Administrator everything works fine. But when I log in under my friend's > login (Administrator privileges) almost nothing works. > > That is, when I click the Microsoft Word 2003 shortcut on the Start menu or > even if I double-click Winword.exe in the MS Office folder, I get a dialog > box titled "Open With" saying "Choose the program you want to use to open > this file: WINWORD.EXE. That dialog box appears for nearly every program. > > Alternately I'll see a small dialog box: > > Error > Application not found > > > None of the normal System Tray icons appear either. > > Sometimes I've seen the message "C:\Windows\System32\Rundll32.exe not > found" > or something similar. > > I can choose Run As... for these applications and run as Administrator and > things are OK. Of course, the My Documents folder is for the Administrator > login, not my friend's. > > I've run MalwareBytes, AVG, and Registry Mechanic as Administrator. I've > found and fixed plenty of stuff, but this "Application not found" or > "Choose > the program you want..." continues to happen. > > Any ideas? > > Regards, > > Steve Erbach > Neenah, WI > > From Gustav at cactus.dk Sun Feb 21 09:51:14 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:51:14 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Struggle with import of certificate for VMware in Vista Message-ID: Hi all If you get tired of accessing the "VMware Infrastructure Web Access", everytime with a red warning about how dangerous this your own site is while it is not, you'll have to import the rui.crt certificate of the VMware hosting server into your certificate store, Trusted Root Certificate Authorities. This is easy to do from within Internet Explorer. Just click the certificate info key icon, choose import and so on. No error messages and all looks fine. The only problem is that even though no error messages, nothing happens really. The certificate does not import. For a couple of days - on and off - I have been struggling with this googling countless pages of all kinds of info related to certificates, VMware, and Internet Explorer with zero results until I located this page: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30768023/sbs-certificate-refuses-t.aspx The key tricks are two: 1. Run Internet Explorer as Administrator 2. Don't just import. Tick the "Show physical stores" tick box and select the "Local Computer" subfolder within the Trusted Root Certificate Authorities folder. That worked. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Feb 21 11:35:00 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:35:00 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Struggle with import of certificate for VMware in Vista In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <765E4C2F13C6488EAAFD169E4DE56C4C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Thanks for that Gustav... I had been just ignoring the problem and it is great when the solution appears on the table, in time for breakfast. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:51 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Struggle with import of certificate for VMware in Vista Hi all If you get tired of accessing the "VMware Infrastructure Web Access", everytime with a red warning about how dangerous this your own site is while it is not, you'll have to import the rui.crt certificate of the VMware hosting server into your certificate store, Trusted Root Certificate Authorities. This is easy to do from within Internet Explorer. Just click the certificate info key icon, choose import and so on. No error messages and all looks fine. The only problem is that even though no error messages, nothing happens really. The certificate does not import. For a couple of days - on and off - I have been struggling with this googling countless pages of all kinds of info related to certificates, VMware, and Internet Explorer with zero results until I located this page: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30768023/sbs-certificate-refuses- t.aspx The key tricks are two: 1. Run Internet Explorer as Administrator 2. Don't just import. Tick the "Show physical stores" tick box and select the "Local Computer" subfolder within the Trusted Root Certificate Authorities folder. That worked. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Feb 22 08:05:41 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:05:41 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Struggle with import of certificate for VMware in Vista Message-ID: Hi Jim et al I should add to this, that you - of course - have to use the URL for the hostname of the VMware host as named (typically) during install like: http://vmware04.somedomain.com:8222 or https://vmware04.somedomain.com:8333 and not the IP address as the certificate is for the hostname only. For this to work you must have an A record or CNAME entry at your DNS server - either at your domain host or (if you have this running) at your local DNS server. Or, if you don't wish to touch these, by editing your hosts file in the %systemroot%\System32\drivers\etc folder of your workstation: 123.54.32.21 vmware04.somedomain.com # vmware host 4 or, if you run the host locally: 127.0.01 vmware04.somedomain.com # vmware host 4 /gustav >>> Gustav at cactus.dk 21-02-2010 16:51 >>> Hi all If you get tired of accessing the "VMware Infrastructure Web Access", everytime with a red warning about how dangerous this your own site is while it is not, you'll have to import the rui.crt certificate of the VMware hosting server into your certificate store, Trusted Root Certificate Authorities. This is easy to do from within Internet Explorer. Just click the certificate info key icon, choose import and so on. No error messages and all looks fine. The only problem is that even though no error messages, nothing happens really. The certificate does not import. For a couple of days - on and off - I have been struggling with this googling countless pages of all kinds of info related to certificates, VMware, and Internet Explorer with zero results until I located this page: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30768023/sbs-certificate-refuses-t.aspx The key tricks are two: 1. Run Internet Explorer as Administrator 2. Don't just import. Tick the "Show physical stores" tick box and select the "Local Computer" subfolder within the Trusted Root Certificate Authorities folder. That worked. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Feb 22 12:40:43 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:40:43 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Struggle with import of certificate for VMware in Vista In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <588759A109D0498380323B4B57DC1EB3@creativesystemdesigns.com> Thank you again... I will flag this for future reference. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 6:06 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Struggle with import of certificate for VMware in Vista Hi Jim et al I should add to this, that you - of course - have to use the URL for the hostname of the VMware host as named (typically) during install like: http://vmware04.somedomain.com:8222 or https://vmware04.somedomain.com:8333 and not the IP address as the certificate is for the hostname only. For this to work you must have an A record or CNAME entry at your DNS server - either at your domain host or (if you have this running) at your local DNS server. Or, if you don't wish to touch these, by editing your hosts file in the %systemroot%\System32\drivers\etc folder of your workstation: 123.54.32.21 vmware04.somedomain.com # vmware host 4 or, if you run the host locally: 127.0.01 vmware04.somedomain.com # vmware host 4 /gustav >>> Gustav at cactus.dk 21-02-2010 16:51 >>> Hi all If you get tired of accessing the "VMware Infrastructure Web Access", everytime with a red warning about how dangerous this your own site is while it is not, you'll have to import the rui.crt certificate of the VMware hosting server into your certificate store, Trusted Root Certificate Authorities. This is easy to do from within Internet Explorer. Just click the certificate info key icon, choose import and so on. No error messages and all looks fine. The only problem is that even though no error messages, nothing happens really. The certificate does not import. For a couple of days - on and off - I have been struggling with this googling countless pages of all kinds of info related to certificates, VMware, and Internet Explorer with zero results until I located this page: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30768023/sbs-certificate-refuses- t.aspx The key tricks are two: 1. Run Internet Explorer as Administrator 2. Don't just import. Tick the "Show physical stores" tick box and select the "Local Computer" subfolder within the Trusted Root Certificate Authorities folder. That worked. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Feb 22 19:21:59 2010 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:21:59 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Testing RAM? Message-ID: <06A0F2513B3F4510BCF15802D46098BB@danwaters> I got a blue screen yesterday, and the report that came back said that I should test the RAM cards in my PC. Does anyone use a RAM test utility that they could recommend? Thanks! Dan From john at winhaven.net Mon Feb 22 21:42:08 2010 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:42:08 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Testing RAM? In-Reply-To: <06A0F2513B3F4510BCF15802D46098BB@danwaters> References: <06A0F2513B3F4510BCF15802D46098BB@danwaters> Message-ID: <003c01cab43a$2d1c1b40$875451c0$@net> I use the Ultimate Boot CD which has a number of them on it. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:22 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Testing RAM? I got a blue screen yesterday, and the report that came back said that I should test the RAM cards in my PC. Does anyone use a RAM test utility that they could recommend? Thanks! Dan From hkotsch at arcor.de Tue Feb 23 00:59:54 2010 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:59:54 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Testing RAM? In-Reply-To: <06A0F2513B3F4510BCF15802D46098BB@danwaters> Message-ID: http://www.memtest86.com/ Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Dan Waters Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Februar 2010 02:22 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: [dba-Tech] Testing RAM? I got a blue screen yesterday, and the report that came back said that I should test the RAM cards in my PC. Does anyone use a RAM test utility that they could recommend? Thanks! Dan _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From eptept at gmail.com Tue Feb 23 09:09:10 2010 From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:09:10 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site Message-ID: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, This one has me puzzled, on my desktop running Win XP Home Premium, IE8, the mouse just won't work on the following site http://roycefunds.com The mouse works on IE8 menus but is totally dead when I mouse on the web site. I'm allowing pop-ups, set this site for compatability views, called the company (no help), checked the Dell site for drivers, no new ones. Diane can get it at work, I can get it on my wireless laptop, Win7 Home Premimum, IE7. Could someone see if they can get the site that has Win XP, IE8 or if anyone has ANY ideas, I would gretly appreciate it. Ed From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com Tue Feb 23 09:18:38 2010 From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:18:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site In-Reply-To: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This may be a complete red herring, but I noticed that all the links on the page are to .asp pages. Could that have anything to do with it? Interestingly when I viewed the site in Chrome I had no problem, but when I tried using IE8 it at first said that it could not display the page (suggesting that my internet connection may have been lost - not so) but then when I hit the 'go back to previous page' link on the error page the site displayed fine. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:09 AM To: Off Topic; Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site Hi All, This one has me puzzled, on my desktop running Win XP Home Premium, IE8, the mouse just won't work on the following site http://roycefunds.com The mouse works on IE8 menus but is totally dead when I mouse on the web site. I'm allowing pop-ups, set this site for compatability views, called the company (no help), checked the Dell site for drivers, no new ones. Diane can get it at work, I can get it on my wireless laptop, Win7 Home Premimum, IE7. Could someone see if they can get the site that has Win XP, IE8 or if anyone has ANY ideas, I would gretly appreciate it. Ed _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Tue Feb 23 10:02:36 2010 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:02:36 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site References: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I downloaded Chrome but still had the same problem accessing the site...I see it on the screen but the mouse is dead on it Ed ________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tue 2/23/2010 10:18 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues; Off Topic Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site This may be a complete red herring, but I noticed that all the links on the page are to .asp pages. Could that have anything to do with it? Interestingly when I viewed the site in Chrome I had no problem, but when I tried using IE8 it at first said that it could not display the page (suggesting that my internet connection may have been lost - not so) but then when I hit the 'go back to previous page' link on the error page the site displayed fine. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:09 AM To: Off Topic; Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site Hi All, This one has me puzzled, on my desktop running Win XP Home Premium, IE8, the mouse just won't work on the following site http://roycefunds.com The mouse works on IE8 menus but is totally dead when I mouse on the web site. I'm allowing pop-ups, set this site for compatability views, called the company (no help), checked the Dell site for drivers, no new ones. Diane can get it at work, I can get it on my wireless laptop, Win7 Home Premimum, IE7. Could someone see if they can get the site that has Win XP, IE8 or if anyone has ANY ideas, I would gretly appreciate it. Ed _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 23 10:29:10 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:29:10 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Designing a small to medium network In-Reply-To: References: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <02B3C3FFD7FF4A34BCB5E719220F04E6@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All; Here is an interesting broad-brush article on designing reliable small to medium sized networks. The are a lot of good points covered. http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/02/designing-a-highly-reliable-sma ll-medium-business-network.ars Note: that a lot of the suggested hardware for operations like 'load-balancing' for instance; do not require expensive hardware to perform the functions. Much of it can be performed via various pieces of software but you may need to integrate both Linux and Windows to create the best solution. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 23 10:48:05 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:48:05 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site In-Reply-To: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <397326BA1C5148579E9301AAC5E9CC85@creativesystemdesigns.com> I did a quick look on that site and it looks like the really tricked up with a lot of really neat Java Script code. Much of that code uses various classes though I have not investigated further, there are a few JS calls/classes which are handled differently in IE7/8 than in any other browsers and if the developer is not aware of this, things can go sideways very fast. IE tends to be a bit of a moving target and a simple update may throw things off. A friend worked on a client's site for a couple of weeks before he could get the various versions IE* working... I do not remember the specifics other than the client was more than upset with the additional costs. If you do not need to use IE I would suggest that you use either the latest versions of FF or Chrome as their products are HTML5 and W3C standardized. This is not meant to disparage IE but their current focus is on integrating SilverLite into the browser world and some things have been allowed to slide. As a web designer keeping things as simple as possible usually is the best policy. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:09 AM To: Off Topic; Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site Hi All, This one has me puzzled, on my desktop running Win XP Home Premium, IE8, the mouse just won't work on the following site http://roycefunds.com The mouse works on IE8 menus but is totally dead when I mouse on the web site. I'm allowing pop-ups, set this site for compatability views, called the company (no help), checked the Dell site for drivers, no new ones. Diane can get it at work, I can get it on my wireless laptop, Win7 Home Premimum, IE7. Could someone see if they can get the site that has Win XP, IE8 or if anyone has ANY ideas, I would gretly appreciate it. Ed _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 23 10:53:46 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:53:46 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site In-Reply-To: References: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That is odd. I have since tested IE6 and 8, Chrome 5*, Safari and FF3.6 and they all work fine on my computers... Tested it from my laptop and a remotely connected server... no problem. It may be something else. Have you tried from another computer yet? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:03 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site I downloaded Chrome but still had the same problem accessing the site...I see it on the screen but the mouse is dead on it Ed ________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tue 2/23/2010 10:18 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues; Off Topic Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site This may be a complete red herring, but I noticed that all the links on the page are to .asp pages. Could that have anything to do with it? Interestingly when I viewed the site in Chrome I had no problem, but when I tried using IE8 it at first said that it could not display the page (suggesting that my internet connection may have been lost - not so) but then when I hit the 'go back to previous page' link on the error page the site displayed fine. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:09 AM To: Off Topic; Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site Hi All, This one has me puzzled, on my desktop running Win XP Home Premium, IE8, the mouse just won't work on the following site http://roycefunds.com The mouse works on IE8 menus but is totally dead when I mouse on the web site. I'm allowing pop-ups, set this site for compatability views, called the company (no help), checked the Dell site for drivers, no new ones. Diane can get it at work, I can get it on my wireless laptop, Win7 Home Premimum, IE7. Could someone see if they can get the site that has Win XP, IE8 or if anyone has ANY ideas, I would gretly appreciate it. Ed _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jerbach at gmail.com Tue Feb 23 11:37:47 2010 From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:37:47 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Mouse not working on a web site In-Reply-To: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f4bf9511002230709q73c54f25s96e23ec81e4c8bd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c1002230937w369accb3n80f248213ac4c0db@mail.gmail.com> I'm on XP using IE8. The mouse works fine on this site for me...but there is a pop up that appears for just about every click, for whatever that's worth. Janet Erbach On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Ed Tesiny wrote: > Hi All, > This one has me puzzled, on my desktop running Win XP Home Premium, IE8, > the > mouse just won't work on the following site > > http://roycefunds.com > > The mouse works on IE8 menus but is totally dead when I mouse on the web > site. I'm allowing pop-ups, set this site for compatability views, called > the company (no help), checked the Dell site for drivers, no new ones. > Diane can get it at work, I can get it on my wireless laptop, Win7 Home > Premimum, IE7. Could someone see if they can get the site that has Win XP, > IE8 or if anyone has ANY ideas, I would gretly appreciate it. > Ed > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Feb 23 11:37:37 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:37:37 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Routing via two ADSL lines Message-ID: Hi all We have two ADSL lines at the office, one for normal data, one for the IP phones. Physically two different LANs, 192.168.1.0 and 192.168.2.0, both with subnet mask 255.255.255.0. During night zero traffic runs at the ADSL line for the phones. One workstation is running 24 hours and uploads a lot of data during the night to two remote IP addresses. What would the easy way be to connect the two LANs and direct upload from the workstation to the outbound router at 192.168.2.1 while it is still connected to 192.168.1.0? /gustav From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Feb 23 12:37:28 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:37:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel book.xlt question Message-ID: Excel bases new workbooks on the template file, book.xlt. My understanding is that this file doesn't exist until you create your first workbook. However, a number of my blog readers can't find it, even though they are actively using Excel. I have accessed book.xlt a number of times, but I don't recall actually creating it the first time -- must users actually created it the first time? Susan H. From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Tue Feb 23 13:43:05 2010 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:43:05 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel book.xlt question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087CC2@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel/HP052035461033.aspx might help Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services The Library at Queen's Tel : 02890976174 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Sharepoint Training Portal ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins [ssharkins at gmail.com] Sent: 23 February 2010 18:37 To: DBA Tech List Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel book.xlt question Excel bases new workbooks on the template file, book.xlt. My understanding is that this file doesn't exist until you create your first workbook. However, a number of my blog readers can't find it, even though they are actively using Excel. I have accessed book.xlt a number of times, but I don't recall actually creating it the first time -- must users actually created it the first time? Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 24 00:00:45 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:00:45 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rootkits In-Reply-To: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087CC2@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087CC2@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <9A0C9B4A696A453FB692BB93834E9DF2@creativesystemdesigns.com> Microsoft have confirmed the existence of a Rootkit affecting XP computers causing the ever popular 'Blue screen of Death'... as if we had forgotten about that 'feature'. http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-confirms-rootkit-cause- of-Windows-XP-blue-screen-of-death-935074.html Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Feb 24 17:30:55 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:30:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Word comment question Message-ID: <4AAED6E97D824B7AAFE20AD4CCAA77A5@SusanOne> A single document is behaving badly with comments -- the font size is so small in the comment that I can't read them. I've spent just a bit of time with Help and a quick google. Anyone know how to change the font size for comments? Susan H. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Feb 24 19:16:03 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:16:03 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Word comment question In-Reply-To: <4AAED6E97D824B7AAFE20AD4CCAA77A5@SusanOne> References: <4AAED6E97D824B7AAFE20AD4CCAA77A5@SusanOne> Message-ID: <4B85CF53.3201.B37DF8F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> In O2K3: 1. Click Format menu 2. Click Styles and Formatting 3. At the very bottom of the Formatting sidebar is a dropdown box. Select custom for this dropdown. 4. Check Balloon Text (Not Comment Text) 5. Click OK 6. Select Balloon Text in the Formatting sidebar 7. Click Modify 8. Now you can select the font face, style, and color you want for your comments. -- Stuart On 24 Feb 2010 at 18:30, Susan Harkins wrote: > A single document is behaving badly with comments -- the font size is so > small in the comment that I can't read them. I've spent just a bit of time > with Help and a quick google. Anyone know how to change the font size for > comments? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Feb 24 19:49:27 2010 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:49:27 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Word comment question References: <4AAED6E97D824B7AAFE20AD4CCAA77A5@SusanOne> <4B85CF53.3201.B37DF8F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <3B070996F7E84097AE8DB9B60335AE35@SusanOne> Thanks Stuart! Susan H. > In O2K3: > > 1. Click Format menu > 2. Click Styles and Formatting > 3. At the very bottom of the Formatting sidebar is a dropdown box. Select > custom for this > dropdown. > 4. Check Balloon Text (Not Comment Text) > 5. Click OK > 6. Select Balloon Text in the Formatting sidebar > 7. Click Modify > 8. Now you can select the font face, style, and color you want for your > comments. > > -- > Stuart > > On 24 Feb 2010 at 18:30, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> A single document is behaving badly with comments -- the font size is so >> small in the comment that I can't read them. I've spent just a bit of >> time >> with Help and a quick google. Anyone know how to change the font size for >> comments? >> >> Susan H. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Feb 25 14:15:47 2010 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:15:47 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] VBA Triggers Configuration of BitDefender? Message-ID: <79AE967851F947D990D22967348A74EF@danwaters> For the last few days, whenever I open a VBA window (Access, Excel, probably others), I get a window: Please wait while Windows configures Bitdefender, as if I'm installing Bitdefender for the 1st time. I have Bitdefender, but it was installed months ago, as was Office 2003. I know I can kill this if I reinstall Office or Bitdefender or both, but what could be causing this, and is there an easier fix? Thanks! Dan From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 25 15:06:14 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:06:14 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Social networks In-Reply-To: <9A0C9B4A696A453FB692BB93834E9DF2@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954680087CC2@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <9A0C9B4A696A453FB692BB93834E9DF2@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Social networks that were at one time considered just a flash in the pan are now massive in their scope and use. There are a number of developments within that area will affect us either now or in the immediate future. http://webworkerdaily.com/2010/02/24/8-significant-developments-in-social-me dia-you-should-watch Jim From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 26 23:20:41 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:20:41 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless router Message-ID: I have a netgear wireless router. what would be the easiest most convenient way to turn the wireless capability on and off without affecting the hardwired ports? TIA Rocky From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sat Feb 27 01:27:02 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:27:02 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless router In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6580629A70DD433C9FC744708FCCEDBF@Server> Use the on/off switch. Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: 27 February 2010 05:21 To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless router I have a netgear wireless router. what would be the easiest most convenient way to turn the wireless capability on and off without affecting the hardwired ports? TIA Rocky From bheid at sc.rr.com Sat Feb 27 09:15:03 2010 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:15:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless router In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004801cab7bf$a335f7a0$e9a1e6e0$@rr.com> Rocky, I go into the web admin for my Linksys router and just turn the radio off or on. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:21 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless router I have a netgear wireless router. what would be the easiest most convenient way to turn the wireless capability on and off without affecting the hardwired ports? TIA Rocky From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sat Feb 27 15:58:38 2010 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:58:38 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 Message-ID: <4B89958E.8090708@earthlink.net> Upgrading IE to IE8 on a PC running XP sp2, I got more than the usual aliquot of Microsoft bugs and self-promoting pollution---I got an anomaly I can't find a fix for, no home page button! Anybody know how to fix that? PB From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sat Feb 27 16:02:00 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:02:00 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: <588759A109D0498380323B4B57DC1EB3@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <588759A109D0498380323B4B57DC1EB3@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <1B64B3C816C54902A2D1F387EDFB74D8@Server> Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the Krap that involves. Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug it in and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you what you pay for. IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just plug it in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and what ever level you pay for. Boot time 0 seconds. Max From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sat Feb 27 16:19:33 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:19:33 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 In-Reply-To: <4B89958E.8090708@earthlink.net> References: <4B89958E.8090708@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Peter, I cannot help you on XP but take my word for it, if you ever got to www.microsoft.com/web and listen to the marketing krap about how easy it is to do xyz, the forget it!! MS = Hades. If it was not for the RAD that Access bring (yep, the one that they want to do way with for developers) the I would be on a Mac Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: 27 February 2010 21:59 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 Upgrading IE to IE8 on a PC running XP sp2, I got more than the usual aliquot of Microsoft bugs and self-promoting pollution---I got an anomaly I can't find a fix for, no home page button! Anybody know how to fix that? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sat Feb 27 16:32:08 2010 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:32:08 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 In-Reply-To: References: <4B89958E.8090708@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B899D68.1000101@earthlink.net> >If it was not for the RAD that Access bring (yep, the one that they want to >do way with for developers) the I would be on a Mac If it were open source, we could teach it to run independently of Windows. P. ----- Max Wanadoo wrote: > Peter, > I cannot help you on XP but take my word for it, if you ever got to > www.microsoft.com/web and listen to the marketing krap about how easy it is > to do xyz, the forget it!! > > MS = Hades. > > If it was not for the RAD that Access bring (yep, the one that they want to > do way with for developers) the I would be on a Mac > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: 27 February 2010 21:59 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 > > Upgrading IE to IE8 on a PC running XP sp2, I got more than the usual > aliquot of Microsoft bugs and self-promoting pollution---I got an anomaly I > can't find a fix for, no home page button! Anybody know how to fix that? > > PB > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2712 - Release Date: 02/26/10 19:39:00 > > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sat Feb 27 16:41:23 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:41:23 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 In-Reply-To: <4B899D68.1000101@earthlink.net> References: <4B89958E.8090708@earthlink.net> <4B899D68.1000101@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <847C435E743D4A1F8504E9422BB26E5C@Server> ha! Spot on Peter!! Max MS is so bloody awful. they have a mind-set back in the 80's but user perception of "good systems" has moved on. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: 27 February 2010 22:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] ie8 >If it was not for the RAD that Access bring (yep, the one that they >want to do way with for developers) the I would be on a Mac If it were open source, we could teach it to run independently of Windows. P. ----- Max Wanadoo wrote: > Peter, > I cannot help you on XP but take my word for it, if you ever got to > www.microsoft.com/web and listen to the marketing krap about how easy > it is to do xyz, the forget it!! > > MS = Hades. > > If it was not for the RAD that Access bring (yep, the one that they > want to do way with for developers) the I would be on a Mac > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley > Sent: 27 February 2010 21:59 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 > > Upgrading IE to IE8 on a PC running XP sp2, I got more than the usual > aliquot of Microsoft bugs and self-promoting pollution---I got an > anomaly I can't find a fix for, no home page button! Anybody know how to fix that? > > PB > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2712 - Release Date: > 02/26/10 19:39:00 > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Feb 27 20:19:55 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:19:55 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: <1B64B3C816C54902A2D1F387EDFB74D8@Server> References: <588759A109D0498380323B4B57DC1EB3@creativesystemdesigns.com> <1B64B3C816C54902A2D1F387EDFB74D8@Server> Message-ID: <76543DFE73C94C008120258E8604B25C@creativesystemdesigns.com> This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. (So much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do have Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup and recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest in what would be perfect backup configuration. Oh yes, my condolences. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the Krap that involves. Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug it in and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you what you pay for. IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just plug it in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and what ever level you pay for. Boot time 0 seconds. Max _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Feb 27 22:47:25 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:47:25 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: <76543DFE73C94C008120258E8604B25C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <588759A109D0498380323B4B57DC1EB3@creativesystemdesigns.com><1B64B3C816C54902A2D1F387EDFB74D8@Server> <76543DFE73C94C008120258E8604B25C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Given the amount of configuration and options you can do in an OS like Windows and the seemingly endless updates from MS - security patches, hotfixes and whatnot - could you really put the OS in an EPROM? Unless you included hardware in the comp to reprogram the EPROM. Then it might be more feasible. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:20 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. (So much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do have Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup and recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest in what would be perfect backup configuration. Oh yes, my condolences. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the Krap that involves. Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug it in and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you what you pay for. IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just plug it in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and what ever level you pay for. Boot time 0 seconds. Max _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 02:16:24 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 08:16:24 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: References: <588759A109D0498380323B4B57DC1EB3@creativesystemdesigns.com><1B64B3C816C54902A2D1F387EDFB74D8@Server><76543DFE73C94C008120258E8604B25C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <15927BF732484935A611E4469432BBDC@Server> Rocky, I am not a guru of any sort but I would have thought it would be feasible for say MS to annouce Vista SP2 for 64 bit machines (which came down this morning). I could then go to their site and pay my money and have a flash update onto my OS Eprom. Once updated, the eprom is then locked again thus preventing any further changes until I unlock it - manually using DIP pins like we used to have. This could be done weekly or whenever you fancy. The urgency would go out of the need to FIX virus attacks etc because there couldn't be any affecting the OS itself. Similar things for Major software installations and upgrades. A side motherboard add-in could hold maybe a dozen eproms plugged in via a USB so the user could get to them easily. Etc Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: 28 February 2010 04:47 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Given the amount of configuration and options you can do in an OS like Windows and the seemingly endless updates from MS - security patches, hotfixes and whatnot - could you really put the OS in an EPROM? Unless you included hardware in the comp to reprogram the EPROM. Then it might be more feasible. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:20 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. (So much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do have Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup and recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest in what would be perfect backup configuration. Oh yes, my condolences. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the Krap that involves. Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug it in and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you what you pay for. IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just plug it in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and what ever level you pay for. Boot time 0 seconds. Max _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 03:07:57 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:07:57 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: <76543DFE73C94C008120258E8604B25C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <588759A109D0498380323B4B57DC1EB3@creativesystemdesigns.com> <1B64B3C816C54902A2D1F387EDFB74D8@Server> <76543DFE73C94C008120258E8604B25C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Jim, I seen mentioned the fact that you can put a bootable ubunto onto a memory stick. But their site makes no mention of this. Do you have any info. I would have liked to boot into Unix, deleted the folders that MS refuses to let me delete and then reboot into Windows. Max On 28 February 2010 02:19, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. (So > much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do have > Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup and > recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest in what > would be perfect backup configuration. > > Oh yes, my condolences. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > > Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures > setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the Krap > that involves. > > Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug it > in > and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you what you > pay > for. > > IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just plug > it > in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and what ever level > you pay for. > > Boot time 0 seconds. > > Max > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hkotsch at arcor.de Sun Feb 28 03:56:24 2010 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:56:24 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did you hear about "Unlocker" to deal with the problem? Here are some links. http://diamondcs.com.au/freeutilities/fileunlocker.php7 http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Max Wanadoo Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Februar 2010 10:08 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Jim, I seen mentioned the fact that you can put a bootable ubunto onto a memory stick. But their site makes no mention of this. Do you have any info. I would have liked to boot into Unix, deleted the folders that MS refuses to let me delete and then reboot into Windows. Max On 28 February 2010 02:19, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. (So > much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do have > Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup and > recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest in what > would be perfect backup configuration. > > Oh yes, my condolences. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > > Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures > setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the Krap > that involves. > > Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug it > in > and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you what you > pay > for. > > IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just plug > it > in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and what ever level > you pay for. > > Boot time 0 seconds. > > Max > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Sun Feb 28 05:24:59 2010 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:24:59 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Message-ID: Hi Helmut The second link is not found, and the first directs to a page with a download which contains a "severe" trojan according to MSE ... /gustav >>> hkotsch at arcor.de 28-02-2010 10:56 >>> Did you hear about "Unlocker" to deal with the problem? Here are some links. http://diamondcs.com.au/freeutilities/fileunlocker.php7 http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ Helmut From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 05:25:29 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:25:29 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Helmut, The first link givs a 404 error (see below) The second is seen as a threat with MS thowing this warning: This website has been reported to Microsoft for containing threats to your computer that might reveal personal or financial information. I found the unlocker you speak of but it doesn't seem to cover what my problem is. I do not want to UNLOCK folders, I want to DELETE them. Here is the issue I had:- 1. Download and install MS Web Freebies. (microsoft.com/web) It will create folders etc with ownership belonging to SYSTEM. 2. You cannot delete those folders. 3. You cannot change ownership to yourself or another Admin user. 4. MS does not give an un-installer. Thanks anyway Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: 28 February 2010 09:56 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Did you hear about "Unlocker" to deal with the problem? Here are some links. http://diamondcs.com.au/freeutilities/fileunlocker.php7 http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Max Wanadoo Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Februar 2010 10:08 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Jim, I seen mentioned the fact that you can put a bootable ubunto onto a memory stick. But their site makes no mention of this. Do you have any info. I would have liked to boot into Unix, deleted the folders that MS refuses to let me delete and then reboot into Windows. Max On 28 February 2010 02:19, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. > (So much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do > have Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup > and recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest > in what would be perfect backup configuration. > > Oh yes, my condolences. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max > Wanadoo > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > > Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures > setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the > Krap that involves. > > Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug > it in and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you > what you pay for. > > IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just > plug it in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and > what ever level > you pay for. > > Boot time 0 seconds. > > Max > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Feb 28 06:10:09 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:10:09 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: <4B8A5D21.31507.76A2E85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Try booting from Ulitmate Boot CD. http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ -- Stuart On 28 Feb 2010 at 11:25, Max Wanadoo wrote: > > I found the unlocker you speak of but it doesn't seem to cover what my > problem is. I do not want to UNLOCK folders, I want to DELETE them. Here is > the issue I had:- > > 1. Download and install MS Web Freebies. (microsoft.com/web) It will create > folders etc with ownership belonging to SYSTEM. > 2. You cannot delete those folders. > 3. You cannot change ownership to yourself or another Admin user. > 4. MS does not give an un-installer. > > > Thanks anyway > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch > Sent: 28 February 2010 09:56 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > Did you hear about "Unlocker" to deal with the problem? > Here are some links. > > http://diamondcs.com.au/freeutilities/fileunlocker.php7 > > http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ > > Helmut > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Max Wanadoo > Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Februar 2010 10:08 > An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > Jim, > I seen mentioned the fact that you can put a bootable ubunto onto a memory > stick. But their site makes no mention of this. Do you have any info. > > I would have liked to boot into Unix, deleted the folders that MS refuses > to let me delete and then reboot into Windows. > > Max > > > > On 28 February 2010 02:19, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. > > (So much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do > > have Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup > > and recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest > > in what would be perfect backup configuration. > > > > Oh yes, my condolences. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max > > Wanadoo > > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > > > > > > Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures > > setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the > > Krap that involves. > > > > Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug > > it in and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you > > what you pay for. > > > > IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just > > plug it in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and > > what ever > level > > you pay for. > > > > Boot time 0 seconds. > > > > Max > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Sun Feb 28 06:48:51 2010 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:48:51 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gustav, Max, sorry for the first link. I don't know what is wrong with it, so forget it. I have no trouble with the second link. They also have a link to the CNET.COM download site for the unlocker program. I've used it occasionally with success. Yes, it also can delete single files. Here is the CNET link: http://download.cnet.com/Unlocker/3000-2248_4-10493998.html?part=dl-Unlocker &subj=uo&tag=button This is the same CNET site in TINY Url form. http://tinyurl.com/yz2u3j4 Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Max Wanadoo Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Februar 2010 12:25 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Helmut, The first link givs a 404 error (see below) The second is seen as a threat with MS thowing this warning: This website has been reported to Microsoft for containing threats to your computer that might reveal personal or financial information. I found the unlocker you speak of but it doesn't seem to cover what my problem is. I do not want to UNLOCK folders, I want to DELETE them. Here is the issue I had:- 1. Download and install MS Web Freebies. (microsoft.com/web) It will create folders etc with ownership belonging to SYSTEM. 2. You cannot delete those folders. 3. You cannot change ownership to yourself or another Admin user. 4. MS does not give an un-installer. Thanks anyway Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: 28 February 2010 09:56 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Did you hear about "Unlocker" to deal with the problem? Here are some links. http://diamondcs.com.au/freeutilities/fileunlocker.php7 http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Max Wanadoo Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Februar 2010 10:08 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Jim, I seen mentioned the fact that you can put a bootable ubunto onto a memory stick. But their site makes no mention of this. Do you have any info. I would have liked to boot into Unix, deleted the folders that MS refuses to let me delete and then reboot into Windows. Max On 28 February 2010 02:19, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. > (So much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do > have Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup > and recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest > in what would be perfect backup configuration. > > Oh yes, my condolences. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max > Wanadoo > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > > Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures > setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the > Krap that involves. > > Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug > it in and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you > what you pay for. > > IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just > plug it in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and > what ever level > you pay for. > > Boot time 0 seconds. > > Max > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 07:32:45 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:32:45 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: <4B8A5D21.31507.76A2E85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , , <4B8A5D21.31507.76A2E85@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <2939CF6E393D4ACB8325C535183BF622@Server> Thanks Stuart, I have downloaded that .iso and cut it to a CD ready for next time. Great tip. Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: 28 February 2010 12:10 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Try booting from Ulitmate Boot CD. http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ -- Stuart On 28 Feb 2010 at 11:25, Max Wanadoo wrote: > > I found the unlocker you speak of but it doesn't seem to cover what my > problem is. I do not want to UNLOCK folders, I want to DELETE them. Here is > the issue I had:- > > 1. Download and install MS Web Freebies. (microsoft.com/web) It will create > folders etc with ownership belonging to SYSTEM. > 2. You cannot delete those folders. > 3. You cannot change ownership to yourself or another Admin user. > 4. MS does not give an un-installer. > > > Thanks anyway > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch > Sent: 28 February 2010 09:56 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > Did you hear about "Unlocker" to deal with the problem? > Here are some links. > > http://diamondcs.com.au/freeutilities/fileunlocker.php7 > > http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ > > Helmut > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Max Wanadoo > Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Februar 2010 10:08 > An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > Jim, > I seen mentioned the fact that you can put a bootable ubunto onto a memory > stick. But their site makes no mention of this. Do you have any info. > > I would have liked to boot into Unix, deleted the folders that MS refuses > to let me delete and then reboot into Windows. > > Max > > > > On 28 February 2010 02:19, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. > > (So much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do > > have Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup > > and recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest > > in what would be perfect backup configuration. > > > > Oh yes, my condolences. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max > > Wanadoo > > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > > > > > > Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures > > setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the > > Krap that involves. > > > > Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug > > it in and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you > > what you pay for. > > > > IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just > > plug it in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and > > what ever > level > > you pay for. > > > > Boot time 0 seconds. > > > > Max > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 07:33:07 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:33:07 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No worries, Helmut. Thanks for the links Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: 28 February 2010 12:49 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Gustav, Max, sorry for the first link. I don't know what is wrong with it, so forget it. I have no trouble with the second link. They also have a link to the CNET.COM download site for the unlocker program. I've used it occasionally with success. Yes, it also can delete single files. Here is the CNET link: http://download.cnet.com/Unlocker/3000-2248_4-10493998.html?part=dl-Unlocker &subj=uo&tag=button This is the same CNET site in TINY Url form. http://tinyurl.com/yz2u3j4 Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Max Wanadoo Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Februar 2010 12:25 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Helmut, The first link givs a 404 error (see below) The second is seen as a threat with MS thowing this warning: This website has been reported to Microsoft for containing threats to your computer that might reveal personal or financial information. I found the unlocker you speak of but it doesn't seem to cover what my problem is. I do not want to UNLOCK folders, I want to DELETE them. Here is the issue I had:- 1. Download and install MS Web Freebies. (microsoft.com/web) It will create folders etc with ownership belonging to SYSTEM. 2. You cannot delete those folders. 3. You cannot change ownership to yourself or another Admin user. 4. MS does not give an un-installer. Thanks anyway Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: 28 February 2010 09:56 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Did you hear about "Unlocker" to deal with the problem? Here are some links. http://diamondcs.com.au/freeutilities/fileunlocker.php7 http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Max Wanadoo Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Februar 2010 10:08 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Jim, I seen mentioned the fact that you can put a bootable ubunto onto a memory stick. But their site makes no mention of this. Do you have any info. I would have liked to boot into Unix, deleted the folders that MS refuses to let me delete and then reboot into Windows. Max On 28 February 2010 02:19, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. > (So much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do > have Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup > and recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest > in what would be perfect backup configuration. > > Oh yes, my condolences. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max > Wanadoo > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > > Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures > setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the > Krap that involves. > > Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug > it in and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you > what you pay for. > > IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just > plug it in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and > what ever level > you pay for. > > Boot time 0 seconds. > > Max > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun Feb 28 12:21:20 2010 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:21:20 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 In-Reply-To: <4B89958E.8090708@earthlink.net> References: <4B89958E.8090708@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B8AB420.70707@earthlink.net> >Upgrading IE to IE8 on a PC running XP sp2, I got more than the usual >aliquot of Microsoft bugs and self-promoting pollution---I got an >anomaly I can't find a fix for, no home page button! Anybody know how to >fix that? Found an answer at http://www.nerdgrind.com/add-internet-explorer-8-home-page-button/. Apparently there's no fix for IE8 slowness. Thanks to Microsoft for not tempting me to increase my use of IE8. PB From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Feb 28 13:27:58 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:27:58 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] XBOX 360 Message-ID: My 13 y.o. wants to upgrade from our old PS2 to an XBOX 360. I've heard that quality/reliability is a problem. Anybody with experience? Opinions? TIA Rocky From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Feb 28 13:40:19 2010 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:40:19 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: References: <588759A109D0498380323B4B57DC1EB3@creativesystemdesigns.com> <1B64B3C816C54902A2D1F387EDFB74D8@Server> <76543DFE73C94C008120258E8604B25C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <7C9C4D58D7B84E18AF11362AC02F7CC8@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Max: I have not created Linux on an EPROM. There are a number of links with that information: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/0243?page=0,0 the previous is one of many. I have a friend that was given a course at the local college on how to burn Linux to chips. He was and is now working on the 'oil patch' and builds these EPROM chips for a Linux and associated proprietary software. Places where the systems may run in very severe conditions and can not afford a system melt down from time to time. Not exactly the same as running from an EPROM, I have installed Ubuntu to a CD/DVD which will just boot up. The next step would be to move the bare OS to a Memory Stick. There is an application that comes with the latest versions of Ubuntu 8.x and up which makes a bootable USB device... This is not EPROM burning but the results can be very similar and it negates the requirement for a plug-in EPROM boot card and a burner kit. When the USB/CD/DVD boots on a new computer it requires enough memory or hard drive space to manage the local devices, other software and from that the OS can either be installed of just run from the disk or attached device. That is a feature of Ubuntu Linux... I do not know whether Windows is designed to be able to work in this fashion. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:08 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms Jim, I seen mentioned the fact that you can put a bootable ubunto onto a memory stick. But their site makes no mention of this. Do you have any info. I would have liked to boot into Unix, deleted the folders that MS refuses to let me delete and then reboot into Windows. For actually building Eproms for Ubuntu Max On 28 February 2010 02:19, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This my life... Fixing broken software and OSs is my forte and curse. (So > much for weekends) I would relish seeing an OS on an EPROM (We do have > Ubuntu on a Memory stick). I would like to see a 5 minute backup and > recovery and I guess that is why there has been so much interest in what > would be perfect backup configuration. > > Oh yes, my condolences. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:02 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms > > > > Twice in the last week I have had to go back to Restore (Manufactures > setting) on two different machines and I am just so sick of all the Krap > that involves. > > Why or why can we not buy an OS on an Eprom like we used to do. Plug it > in > and job done. Different versions at diffenent levels give you what you > pay > for. > > IOW, after all the krap I have had to go through- twice - you just plug > it > in and go - no virus, no trojans, nothing but the OS and what ever level > you pay for. > > Boot time 0 seconds. > > Max > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at sc.rr.com Sun Feb 28 13:53:04 2010 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:53:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] XBOX 360 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601cab8af$a42c3a70$ec84af50$@rr.com> Had an XBOX 360 since Christmas without any issues. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:28 PM To: List; List Subject: [dba-Tech] XBOX 360 My 13 y.o. wants to upgrade from our old PS2 to an XBOX 360. I've heard that quality/reliability is a problem. Anybody with experience? Opinions? TIA Rocky From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Feb 28 14:00:32 2010 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:00:32 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 In-Reply-To: <4B8AB420.70707@earthlink.net> References: <4B89958E.8090708@earthlink.net> <4B8AB420.70707@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <82D97D6777A74B2CA9D3A38C970BBCD5@HAL9005> Firefox is a fix... Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:21 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] ie8 >Upgrading IE to IE8 on a PC running XP sp2, I got more than the usual >aliquot of Microsoft bugs and self-promoting pollution---I got an >anomaly I can't find a fix for, no home page button! Anybody know how >to fix that? Found an answer at http://www.nerdgrind.com/add-internet-explorer-8-home-page-button/. Apparently there's no fix for IE8 slowness. Thanks to Microsoft for not tempting me to increase my use of IE8. PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun Feb 28 14:17:42 2010 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:17:42 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] ie8 In-Reply-To: <82D97D6777A74B2CA9D3A38C970BBCD5@HAL9005> References: <4B89958E.8090708@earthlink.net> <4B8AB420.70707@earthlink.net> <82D97D6777A74B2CA9D3A38C970BBCD5@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4B8ACF66.9060302@earthlink.net> Yep that's why thanks to Microsoft for not tempting me to increase my IE use beyond those few sites that (atavistically) need it. P. Rocky Smolin wrote: > Firefox is a fix... > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:21 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] ie8 > > >> Upgrading IE to IE8 on a PC running XP sp2, I got more than the usual >> aliquot of Microsoft bugs and self-promoting pollution---I got an >> anomaly I can't find a fix for, no home page button! Anybody know how >> to fix that? >> > > Found an answer at > http://www.nerdgrind.com/add-internet-explorer-8-home-page-button/. > > Apparently there's no fix for IE8 slowness. Thanks to Microsoft for not > tempting me to increase my use of IE8. > > PB > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2714 - Release Date: 02/28/10 07:34:00 > > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 14:51:13 2010 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:51:13 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] XBOX 360 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C5A4C7B46B142C882814B68F3698FF1@Server> There are two models, the Arcade (basic - small HD) and the other. I have the other, whatever that is called and have no problems with it (about 2 months now). Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: 28 February 2010 19:28 To: List; List Subject: [dba-Tech] XBOX 360 My 13 y.o. wants to upgrade from our old PS2 to an XBOX 360. I've heard that quality/reliability is a problem. Anybody with experience? Opinions? TIA Rocky From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Feb 28 14:55:41 2010 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 06:55:41 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS on Eproms In-Reply-To: <7C9C4D58D7B84E18AF11362AC02F7CC8@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , , <7C9C4D58D7B84E18AF11362AC02F7CC8@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4B8AD84D.2429.94B5273@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Try googling "Windows Embedded" http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb499284%28WinEmbedded.51%29.aspx "A diskless system can boot from the following file system sources: * A storage device that does not have physically rotating media, but instead uses flash memory or battery-backed RAM. * A bootable CD-ROM that uses the Windows Embedded Standard Enhanced Write Filter (EWF). * A file system that is accessible through a network connection, for example, a system that boots from a file system in a remote location. * ROM-based storage. " On 28 Feb 2010 at 11:40, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > When the USB/CD/DVD boots on a new computer it requires enough memory or > hard drive space to manage the local devices, other software and from that > the OS can either be installed of just run from the disk or attached device. > That is a feature of Ubuntu Linux... > > I do not know whether Windows is designed to be able to work in this > fashion. >