From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 13:09:29 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:09:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question Message-ID: https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officeapps.li The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds this -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle with icons added to the master slide? Thanks! Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 15:09:34 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:09:34 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Snap to behavior gone in PowerPoint Message-ID: I have PowerPoint 2003 and 2010 installed on the same system and still using Windows XP. Snap to behavior is gone -- both for the grid and snap to objects. I've googled it and I see lots of hits but nothing that actually explains what's happened or how to get it back! Didn't find anything in the knowledgebase. I checked the Registry but I didn't find any settings for this behavior, so I didn't actually do anything. Anyone had this happen to them? Susan H. From john at winhaven.net Mon Jan 3 15:09:47 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:09:47 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> I can't get at it. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 1:09 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea pps.li The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds this -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle with icons added to the master slide? Thanks! Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 15:27:33 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:27:33 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> >I can't get at it. > > > https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA > 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea > pps.li > > The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational > toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds > this > -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone > familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle with > icons added to the master slide? > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jan 3 15:28:15 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:28:15 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> References: , <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <4D223F6F.9078.C01420D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Neither can I. On 3 Jan 2011 at 15:09, John Bartow wrote: > I can't get at it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan > Harkins Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 1:09 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question > > https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337 > B938EA > 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=o > fficea pps.li > > The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom > navigational toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in > feature that adds this -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons > that have links. Is anyone familiar with this technique -- is that > what it is, just a rectangle with icons added to the master slide? > > Thanks! > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jan 3 15:34:35 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:34:35 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Snap to behavior gone in PowerPoint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D2240EB.18261.C070FA8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> For 2003 - this is configured under View - Grid and Guides. Are they correct options ticked there? On 3 Jan 2011 at 16:09, Susan Harkins wrote: > I have PowerPoint 2003 and 2010 installed on the same system and still > using Windows XP. > > Snap to behavior is gone -- both for the grid and snap to objects. > I've googled it and I see lots of hits but nothing that actually > explains what's happened or how to get it back! Didn't find anything > in the knowledgebase. > > I checked the Registry but I didn't find any settings for this > behavior, so I didn't actually do anything. > > Anyone had this happen to them? > > Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 15:38:52 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:38:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Snap to behavior gone in PowerPoint References: <4D2240EB.18261.C070FA8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Yes, the option is checked, it just doesn't worked. Checked both installed versions too -- neither snap to options are working in either version -- even when properly checked. I'm sorry -- I should've mentioned that in my question. Susan H. > For 2003 - this is configured under View - Grid and Guides. Are they > correct options ticked > there? From john at winhaven.net Wed Jan 5 08:57:33 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:57:33 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <00d701cbace8$e2f2e370$a8d8aa50$@winhaven.net> I don't know what that it but then its on the web and I Haven't done much with PowerPoint on the web. Is this also a stand alone presentation that you can post? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 3:28 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question >I can't get at it. > > > https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337 > B938EA > 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=o > fficea > pps.li > > The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom > navigational toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in > feature that adds this > -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is > anyone familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a > rectangle with icons added to the master slide? > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 09:06:03 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:06:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <00d701cbace8$e2f2e370$a8d8aa50$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <0232D022C72C4104B06EE3153919C3B3@salvationomc4p> No, not that I can find. Susan H. >I don't know what that it but then its on the web and I Haven't done much > with PowerPoint on the web. Is this also a stand alone presentation that > you > can post? From john at winhaven.net Wed Jan 5 09:37:57 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 09:37:57 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <0232D022C72C4104B06EE3153919C3B3@salvationomc4p> References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <00d701cbace8$e2f2e370$a8d8aa50$@winhaven.net> <0232D022C72C4104B06EE3153919C3B3@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <00f201cbacee$86e8aaa0$94b9ffe0$@winhaven.net> Is it maybe a function of PowerPoint on the web? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:06 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question No, not that I can find. Susan H. >I don't know what that it but then its on the web and I Haven't done >much with PowerPoint on the web. Is this also a stand alone >presentation that you can post? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 09:41:29 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:41:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <00d701cbace8$e2f2e370$a8d8aa50$@winhaven.net><0232D022C72C4104B06EE3153919C3B3@salvationomc4p> <00f201cbacee$86e8aaa0$94b9ffe0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: That's certainly possible, I hadn't really thought of that. Susan H. > Is it maybe a function of PowerPoint on the web? From rustykh at yahoo.com Sat Jan 8 15:19:29 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:19:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Jan 8 15:29:49 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:29:49 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D28D74D.17111.EAAF997@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Implement IMAP? http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes.htm or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of > our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a > Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and > with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to > have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall > and server to allow users to securely connect? > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jan 8 16:03:49 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:03:49 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <88381E8B56FE4B00B14E6516A367A5FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> I have a friend who spent months perfecting email to blackberries on a SBS 2003. I will call him and arrange for you to converse...if you would like. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Sat Jan 8 21:48:09 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:48:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <754654.41735.qm@web65407.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Thanks.? The one article talks about a front end server.? I was afraid it might take something like that to hide the production server from the web. ? From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Implement IMAP? http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes.htm or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of > our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones.? I'm using a > Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and > with a dynamic IP address.? I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to > have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall > and server to allow users to securely connect? > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Sat Jan 8 21:49:31 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:49:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <164673.4815.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> >From what I understand of Blackberries, you have to install software specifically for your blackberry device or pay to use their service.? Luckily we don't have any blackberry users. ? From: Jim Lawrence To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 4:03:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a friend who spent months perfecting email to blackberries on a SBS 2003. I will call him and arrange for you to converse...if you would like. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones.? I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address.? I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond ? ? ? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Jan 8 22:19:35 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:19:35 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <754654.41735.qm@web65407.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <754654.41735.qm@web65407.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D293757.25771.1022230E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the appropriate port to your SBS Server. -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > Thanks.? The one article talks about a front end server.? I was afraid > it might take something like that to hide the production server from > the web. > > ? > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > smartphones > > Implement IMAP? > > http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes > .htm > > or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? > > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html > > -- > Stuart > > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some > > of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones.? I'm > > using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our > > network and with a dynamic IP address.? I can use DynDns or no-ip if > > I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on > > the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? > > > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jan 8 23:04:24 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:04:24 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <164673.4815.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <164673.4815.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Actually, cell phones using Windows, as you would imagine are supposed to be a lot easier to install and maintain. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:50 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones >From what I understand of Blackberries, you have to install software specifically for your blackberry device or pay to use their service.? Luckily we don't have any blackberry users. ? From: Jim Lawrence To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 4:03:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a friend who spent months perfecting email to blackberries on a SBS 2003. I will call him and arrange for you to converse...if you would like. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones.? I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address.? I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond ? ? ? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Jan 9 05:49:31 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:49:31 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Most new smartphones come with an Exchange plug-in on them. The iPhones, Androids and Windows phones that I've seen do, at least. Even the Nokia phones on Symbian have a Mail for Exchange tool, so I can't see that it would be too hard to do. Blackberries are another matter. I believe you have to install Blackberry Enterprise Server on your Exchange server to make them talk. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: 08 January 2011 21:19 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 9 11:14:07 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 09:14:07 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: References: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <059EE3939A884F21A117DF15F2A711CA@creativesystemdesigns.com> I will attest to that... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 3:50 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Most new smartphones come with an Exchange plug-in on them. The iPhones, Androids and Windows phones that I've seen do, at least. Even the Nokia phones on Symbian have a Mail for Exchange tool, so I can't see that it would be too hard to do. Blackberries are another matter. I believe you have to install Blackberry Enterprise Server on your Exchange server to make them talk. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: 08 January 2011 21:19 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 14:33:41 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:33:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type of security that does away with the need for the front end server? From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the appropriate port to your SBS Server. -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was afraid > it might take something like that to hide the production server from > the web. > > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > smartphones > > Implement IMAP? > > http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes > .htm > > or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? > > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html > > -- > Stuart > > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some > > of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm > > using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our > > network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if > > I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on > > the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? > > > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 14:36:17 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:36:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <735254.78055.qm@web65413.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Yes, I was just looking at the corprate e-mail on my droid and it is designed to connect directly to an Exchange server. Opening up the port to go to the server I "think" is going to be the easy part. Making it a secure connection and blocking hackers is my other concern. From: Jon Tydda To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2011 5:49:31 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Most new smartphones come with an Exchange plug-in on them. The iPhones, Androids and Windows phones that I've seen do, at least. Even the Nokia phones on Symbian have a Mail for Exchange tool, so I can't see that it would be too hard to do. Blackberries are another matter. I believe you have to install Blackberry Enterprise Server on your Exchange server to make them talk. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: 08 January 2011 21:19 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Jan 9 15:03:33 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:03:33 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D2A22A5.1310.13B94D5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> It all depends on what you are doing on your Lan and on the Internet. You would use a separate "Front End Server" to serve up information to Internet baed clients such as your public website, publicly available files etc. This generally sits in a "de- militarized zone" outside of your firewall. That separates your public data from your private data and keesp your private data away from the internet. In your case, you are talking about making your private data available over the internet. That is a different situation. Your security there comes from your router/firewalll and what traffic you allow to/from your IIS/Exchange servers. -- Stuart On 9 Jan 2011 at 12:33, Rusty Hammond wrote: > I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of > security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type > of security that does away with the need for the front end server? > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > 10:19:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > smartphones > > If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you > don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the > appropriate port to your SBS Server. > > -- > Stuart > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was > > afraid it might take something like that to hide the production > > server from the web. > > > > > > > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > > 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > > smartphones > > > > Implement IMAP? > > > > http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailbox > > es .htm > > > > or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? > > > > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > > > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow > > > some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. > > > I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and > > > our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or > > > no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to > > > make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely > > > connect? > > > > > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 9 15:36:14 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:36:14 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A FE server though it does and can provide another layer of security is not really necessary. If setup correctly the SBS is all that is needed. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:34 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type of security that does away with the need for the front end server? From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the appropriate port to your SBS Server. -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was afraid > it might take something like that to hide the production server from > the web. > > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > smartphones > > Implement IMAP? > > http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes > .htm > > or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? > > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html > > -- > Stuart > > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some > > of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm > > using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our > > network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if > > I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on > > the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? > > > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sun Jan 9 16:04:49 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 23:04:49 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: Hi Jim That's how I have understood it as well. The scenario MS describes with a separate FE/OWA server is for a larger scale setup to release the main Exchange server(s) from the web access and mobile load. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 09-01-2011 22:36 >>> A FE server though it does and can provide another layer of security is not really necessary. If setup correctly the SBS is all that is needed. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:34 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type of security that does away with the need for the front end server? From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the appropriate port to your SBS Server. -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was afraid > it might take something like that to hide the production server from > the web. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Jan 9 16:41:42 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:41:42 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D2A39A6.15027.141327D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Also, the IIS on that FE/OWA server is frequently used to server up a public website as well as OWA. -- Stuart On 9 Jan 2011 at 23:04, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Jim > > That's how I have understood it as well. The scenario MS describes > with a separate FE/OWA server is for a larger scale setup to release > the main Exchange server(s) from the web access and mobile load. > > /gustav > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 09-01-2011 22:36 >>> > A FE server though it does and can provide another layer of security > is not really necessary. If setup correctly the SBS is all that is > needed. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty > Hammond Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:34 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business > Server 2003 and smartphones > > I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of > security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type > of security that does away with the need for the front end server? > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones > > If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you > don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the > appropriate port to your SBS Server. > > > -- > Stuart > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was > > afraid it might take something like that to hide the production > > server from the web. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 11:36:44 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:36:44 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! Message-ID: Hello all, Am I losing my mind or is Oracle performing a lobotomy on me? Back when the VM was called Sun VirtualBox, it effortlessly let you view all the Windows drives and folders therein. That was way back in Version 7 or perhaps even earlier, and it just naturally did it; I didn't have to do a thing. But now, running Oracle VM VirtualBox, and then explored the menus and icons, I seem to be trapped in this VM, with no way to view any files outside its initial footprint. Am I wrong, or has the software/hardware world reduced to Ellison vs. Jobs, the first round, and Gates quietly waiting for the final. I used to hate Gates for closing them, but compared to his opponents, they're leaving the gates wide open, perhaps to their detriment. So far as I can see, my best option is to nuke everything concerning Oracle and return to Sun VirtualBox and then I'm free to visit the whole computer rather than one narrow slice of it. Am I wrong? Is there a way to make Oracle Sun VM wake up and smell the coffee in the Windows? Perhaps I don't read enough any more.... I've cancelled most of my e-subscriptions to eWeek etc., all and any DVD-movie subscriptions, etc. etc. In my grey years, I have lost my concern for who wins this samurai battle, and I no longer care. I am so out of the loop (or just possibly into some new loop, expelled in the way Pluto was from the local List of Planets, and returned to Asteroid (freshman) status. I think I'll uninstall Oracle VirtualBox and return to the Sun version. I don't care whether I'm a few versions behind, so long as it works. I don't even care if Oracle pulls the Support plug, I have the docs downloaded anyway. So there, Larry! Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jan 10 13:51:05 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:51:05 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have been away from serious Oracle work for over 5 years now. The only thing I have done is to connect to databases... Oracle as a rule does not like working with other OSs. It likes its own server and that is what I tend to do with it...put it on its own beater-box...then just open ports 1521 to 1525. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:37 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! Hello all, Am I losing my mind or is Oracle performing a lobotomy on me? Back when the VM was called Sun VirtualBox, it effortlessly let you view all the Windows drives and folders therein. That was way back in Version 7 or perhaps even earlier, and it just naturally did it; I didn't have to do a thing. But now, running Oracle VM VirtualBox, and then explored the menus and icons, I seem to be trapped in this VM, with no way to view any files outside its initial footprint. Am I wrong, or has the software/hardware world reduced to Ellison vs. Jobs, the first round, and Gates quietly waiting for the final. I used to hate Gates for closing them, but compared to his opponents, they're leaving the gates wide open, perhaps to their detriment. So far as I can see, my best option is to nuke everything concerning Oracle and return to Sun VirtualBox and then I'm free to visit the whole computer rather than one narrow slice of it. Am I wrong? Is there a way to make Oracle Sun VM wake up and smell the coffee in the Windows? Perhaps I don't read enough any more.... I've cancelled most of my e-subscriptions to eWeek etc., all and any DVD-movie subscriptions, etc. etc. In my grey years, I have lost my concern for who wins this samurai battle, and I no longer care. I am so out of the loop (or just possibly into some new loop, expelled in the way Pluto was from the local List of Planets, and returned to Asteroid (freshman) status. I think I'll uninstall Oracle VirtualBox and return to the Sun version. I don't care whether I'm a few versions behind, so long as it works. I don't even care if Oracle pulls the Support plug, I have the docs downloaded anyway. So there, Larry! Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Mon Jan 10 14:00:28 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:00:28 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D2B655C.9020600@earthlink.net> AF> In my grey years, I have lost my concern for who wins >this samurai battle, and I no longer care. Hear, hear! PB ---- On 1/10/2011 11:36 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Hello all, > > Am I losing my mind or is Oracle performing a lobotomy on me? Back when the > VM was called Sun VirtualBox, it effortlessly let you view all the Windows > drives and folders therein. That was way back in Version 7 or perhaps even > earlier, and it just naturally did it; I didn't have to do a thing. But now, > running Oracle VM VirtualBox, and then explored the menus and icons, I seem > to be trapped in this VM, with no way to view any files outside its initial > footprint. > > Am I wrong, or has the software/hardware world reduced to Ellison vs. Jobs, > the first round, and Gates quietly waiting for the final. I used to hate > Gates for closing them, but compared to his opponents, they're leaving the > gates wide open, perhaps to their detriment. > > So far as I can see, my best option is to nuke everything concerning Oracle > and return to Sun VirtualBox and then I'm free to visit the whole computer > rather than one narrow slice of it. Am I wrong? Is there a way to make > Oracle Sun VM wake up and smell the coffee in the Windows? > > Perhaps I don't read enough any more.... I've cancelled most of my > e-subscriptions to eWeek etc., all and any DVD-movie subscriptions, etc. > etc. > In my grey years, I have lost my concern for who wins this samurai battle, > and I no longer care. I am so out of the loop (or just possibly into some > new loop, expelled in the way Pluto was from the local List of Planets, and > returned to Asteroid (freshman) status. I think I'll uninstall Oracle > VirtualBox and return to the Sun version. I don't care whether I'm a few > versions behind, so long as it works. I don't even care if Oracle pulls the > Support plug, I have the docs downloaded anyway. So there, Larry! > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jan 10 16:28:40 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:28:40 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D2B8818.44.4042772@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> You're mind is backed up over there...... Have you installed Guest Additions? Without it, you have always had to set up network shares to see host resources? -- Stuart On 10 Jan 2011 at 12:36, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Am I losing my mind or is Oracle performing a lobotomy on me? Back > when the VM was called Sun VirtualBox, it effortlessly let you view > all the Windows drives and folders therein. That was way back in > Version 7 or perhaps even earlier, and it just naturally did it; I > didn't have to do a thing. But now, running Oracle VM VirtualBox, and > then explored the menus and icons, I seem to be trapped in this VM, > with no way to view any files outside its initial footprint. > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jan 10 22:33:44 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:33:44 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed Message-ID: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in my Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go into some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook through the task manager. I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder other than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left pane and selecting Delete All. The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook opens, it opens to the Inbox with this bounced email selected, goes right into the loop and I can't do anything else with Outlook. It's well and truly hung. Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? TIA Rocky From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jan 10 23:09:33 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:09:33 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <4D2B8818.44.4042772@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4D2B8818.44.4042772@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 02:54:02 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:54:02 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed In-Reply-To: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Hi Rocky, I hate to say this when you are having problems, but.... I switched to online gmail in Sept 2004. Since then, I have phones, pc's, internet cafes, all with no problems. I also never backup my email, and I have currently over 40 thousand emails with 1 second response time when I search for any of them. Suffice it to say, I am a fan of cloud email, My wife is forced to use outlook and I have to say, I do not envy her. >From this site, *The Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. * Good Luck, Mark On 11 January 2011 04:33, wrote: > I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. > Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in my > Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go into > some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook through the > task manager. > > I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder other > than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left pane and > selecting Delete All. > > The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook > he Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, file > named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. opens, it opens to the Inbox with > this bounced email selected, goes > right into the loop and I can't do anything else with Outlook. It's > well and truly hung. > > Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? > > TIA > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jan 11 03:37:29 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:37:29 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Message-ID: Hi Jim As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09 >>> According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jan 11 07:45:38 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:45:38 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed In-Reply-To: References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Scanpst failed. But I got that bad boy out of there anyway. Gmail would be OK for some things but I like having my business mail go to my domain - more professional, I think. Could switch OT and personal there, I suppose. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:54 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Off Topic Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed Hi Rocky, I hate to say this when you are having problems, but.... I switched to online gmail in Sept 2004. Since then, I have phones, pc's, internet cafes, all with no problems. I also never backup my email, and I have currently over 40 thousand emails with 1 second response time when I search for any of them. Suffice it to say, I am a fan of cloud email, My wife is forced to use outlook and I have to say, I do not envy her. >From this site, *The Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. * Good Luck, Mark On 11 January 2011 04:33, wrote: > I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. > Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in my > Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go into > some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook through the > task manager. > > I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder other > than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left pane > and selecting Delete All. > > The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook > he Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, > file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. opens, it opens to the Inbox > with this bounced email selected, goes right into the loop and I can't > do anything else with Outlook. It's well and truly hung. > > Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? > > TIA > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 08:59:25 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 06:59:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <977220.29359.qm@web65414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Thanks everyone for the information. I think you've got me pointed in the right direction. Rusty From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2011 4:41:42 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Also, the IIS on that FE/OWA server is frequently used to server up a public website as well as OWA. -- Stuart On 9 Jan 2011 at 23:04, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Jim > > That's how I have understood it as well. The scenario MS describes > with a separate FE/OWA server is for a larger scale setup to release > the main Exchange server(s) from the web access and mobile load. > > /gustav > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 09-01-2011 22:36 >>> > A FE server though it does and can provide another layer of security > is not really necessary. If setup correctly the SBS is all that is > needed. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty > Hammond Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:34 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business > Server 2003 and smartphones > > I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of > security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type > of security that does away with the need for the front end server? > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones > > If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you > don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the > appropriate port to your SBS Server. > > > -- > Stuart > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was > > afraid it might take something like that to hide the production > > server from the web. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 10:12:51 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:12:51 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any idea what this data flow was for. I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device where every byte transferred cost money. I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more established and Android is cleaning up. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Jim As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09 >>> According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From df.waters at comcast.net Tue Jan 11 10:18:44 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:18:44 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Do the other smart phones also send data regularly? If so, how much? I've been thinking of getting a 1st smart phone before too long. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:13 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Gustav: Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any idea what this data flow was for. I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device where every byte transferred cost money. I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more established and Android is cleaning up. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Jim As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09 >>> According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Tue Jan 11 11:12:12 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:12:12 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> Are Blackberry users still stuck with Outlook? PB On 1/11/2011 10:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Gustav: > > Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue > that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At > the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any > idea what this data flow was for. > > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, > totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device > where every byte transferred cost money. > > I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just > what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more > established and Android is cleaning up. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems > > Hi Jim > > As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some > phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. > It should be relatively easy to track down. > > /gustav > > >>>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09>>> > According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows > cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 > > This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm > foot hold in the growing cell phone market. > > The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jan 11 11:48:05 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:48:05 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold Message-ID: Hi all If you are serious about Windows Phone 7, this 1000+ page monster book from Microsoft is only a 13 MB download + 5 MB for code samples: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2010/10/28/free-ebook-programming-windows-phone-7-by-charles-petzold.aspx Note this: To use this book properly you'll need to download and install the Windows Phone Developer Tools, which includes Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone, XNA Game Studio 4.0, and an on-screen Windows Phone Emulator to test your programs in the absence of an actual device. Get the latest information and downloads at http://developer.windowsphone.com. You can install these tools on top of Visual Studio 2010, in effect enhancing Visual Studio 2010 for phone development. That's the configuration I used. Although you can do quite a bit with the phone emulator, at some point you'll want to deploy your programs to an actual Windows Phone 7 device. You can register as a phone developer at http://developer.windowsphone.com and then have the ability to unlock your phone so you can deploy your programs from Visual Studio. /gustav From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 11 14:25:28 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:25:28 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4D2CBCB8.12449.8B99DE1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Every byte still costs money in a lot of parts of the world on a PC. Here in PNG it still costs about 7c US per MB for everything we download. Yep those "free" CD sized downloads cost me about $40 a time. :-( -- Stuart On 11 Jan 2011 at 8:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: ... > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, > totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone > device where every byte transferred cost money. > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 11 14:28:51 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:28:51 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> References: , <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com>, <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4D2CBD83.12343.8BCB641@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> No, Blackberry uses the IMAP protocol. The mail application on the Blackberry is a RIM product and you can use any mail client you like on your PC. -- Stuart On 11 Jan 2011 at 11:12, Peter Brawley wrote: > Are Blackberry users still stuck with Outlook? > > PB > > On 1/11/2011 10:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Hi Gustav: > > > > Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration > > issue that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a > > problem. At the time of the news release no one, at least in or > > related to press had any idea what this data flow was for. > > > > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on > > PC, totally automated except that does not really work on a cell > > phone device where every byte transferred cost money. > > > > I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and > > just what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just > > getting more established and Android is cleaning up. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav > > Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM To: > > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft > > Windows 7 cell phones are having problems > > > > Hi Jim > > > > As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted > > by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or > > misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. > > > > /gustav > > > > > >>>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09>>> > > According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the > > windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some > > problems. > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 > > > > This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a > > firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. > > > > The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 14:30:10 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:30:10 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <8825DEEDC74E4D8CB66093B5C18E6917@creativesystemdesigns.com> Maybe they all do it but the Windows Smartphone seemed, in some circumstances, to be sending a lot of data...over a GB a month, according to the posted article. Recently acquired a Samsung Galaxy S Smartphone with Android and I am really liking it. Just installed the following app: http://www.doubletwist.com/airsync/ (Not so much into music and pictures but maybe it will transfer code snippets as well.) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:19 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Do the other smart phones also send data regularly? If so, how much? I've been thinking of getting a 1st smart phone before too long. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:13 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Gustav: Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any idea what this data flow was for. I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device where every byte transferred cost money. I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more established and Android is cleaning up. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Jim As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09 >>> According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 14:31:25 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:31:25 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4D823FDB96BF491493FCEA13B27902ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> I have no idea... I just about got one but there was this super deal just before Christmas... 8-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:12 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Are Blackberry users still stuck with Outlook? PB On 1/11/2011 10:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Gustav: > > Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue > that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At > the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any > idea what this data flow was for. > > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, > totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device > where every byte transferred cost money. > > I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just > what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more > established and Android is cleaning up. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems > > Hi Jim > > As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some > phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. > It should be relatively easy to track down. > > /gustav > > >>>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09>>> > According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows > cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 > > This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm > foot hold in the growing cell phone market. > > The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 14:32:38 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:32:38 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17D88F9919444059815BDF7B3B35CEED@creativesystemdesigns.com> So how is your development coming along? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com; dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold Hi all If you are serious about Windows Phone 7, this 1000+ page monster book from Microsoft is only a 13 MB download + 5 MB for code samples: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2010/10/28/free-ebook-progra mming-windows-phone-7-by-charles-petzold.aspx Note this: To use this book properly you'll need to download and install the Windows Phone Developer Tools, which includes Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone, XNA Game Studio 4.0, and an on-screen Windows Phone Emulator to test your programs in the absence of an actual device. Get the latest information and downloads at http://developer.windowsphone.com. You can install these tools on top of Visual Studio 2010, in effect enhancing Visual Studio 2010 for phone development. That's the configuration I used. Although you can do quite a bit with the phone emulator, at some point you'll want to deploy your programs to an actual Windows Phone 7 device. You can register as a phone developer at http://developer.windowsphone.com and then have the ability to unlock your phone so you can deploy your programs from Visual Studio. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 14:49:39 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:49:39 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <4D2CBCB8.12449.8B99DE1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4D2CBCB8.12449.8B99DE1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <35B8063DC21842E19E36823461D56BFC@creativesystemdesigns.com> Wow... how did you get into programming? I guess the sneaker-net is still alive and well in your locality. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Every byte still costs money in a lot of parts of the world on a PC. Here in PNG it still costs about 7c US per MB for everything we download. Yep those "free" CD sized downloads cost me about $40 a time. :-( -- Stuart On 11 Jan 2011 at 8:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: ... > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, > totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone > device where every byte transferred cost money. > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 15:32:11 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:32:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhone database app? Message-ID: I don't have an iPhone so I couldn't help a friend who tried an app built atop SQLite, and he hated it. According to him, all you can do is view a single row at a time! He wants a list of records. Anyone got a suggestion for an app to replace that one? Access for iPhone ? TIA, Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 16:24:05 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:24:05 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhone database app? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have no personal knowledge but what I have heard is, if you are a freelancer and do not have signed agreements with Apple, you have to crack-it to get greater access. I could ask around if you are interested? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:32 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhone database app? I don't have an iPhone so I couldn't help a friend who tried an app built atop SQLite, and he hated it. According to him, all you can do is view a single row at a time! He wants a list of records. Anyone got a suggestion for an app to replace that one? Access for iPhone ? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 16:29:25 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:29:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhone database app? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't bother, unless someone else is interested. I don't have an iPhone and don't see one in my future either. Arthur On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > I have no personal knowledge but what I have heard is, if you are a > freelancer and do not have signed agreements with Apple, you have to > crack-it to get greater access. I could ask around if you are interested? > > Jim > From marklbreen at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 03:50:17 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:50:17 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed In-Reply-To: References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Hi Rocky, Google have a free "Gmail for Domains" service. They call it Google Apps. I have set up over 100 of these accounts for friends and neighbours in the last couple of years. You create an account with google apps (standard editionis free - you do not need the premium edition) Google provide you with some unique data that you then upload to your domain registrat (Go Daddy or whomever you use) Google verify you own the account. You create users in google for your domain eg, rocky.smolin at bchacc.com, or max.smolin at bchacc.com Optional step, You assign nicknames to the users, eg, Rocky, info, sales, support, papa, themainman then you go back to Go Daddy and change your MX records to point to google servers. No more backup, no more spam, no more email virus's, no more deleting files, no more slow searching, all email will come from your domain as if you had an expensive exchange server and it is all free. Also, you have shared calendars and groups and a whole lot more. You can leave your existing website where it is, no need to change that, but in the future, you have the option of asking google to host the site also, and then you have free hosting also. As I mentioned, if you have any questions, just ask. HTH Mark On 11 January 2011 13:45, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Scanpst failed. But I got that bad boy out of there anyway. Gmail would > be > OK for some things but I like having my business mail go to my domain - > more > professional, I think. Could switch OT and personal there, I suppose. > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:54 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Off Topic > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed > > Hi Rocky, > > I hate to say this when you are having problems, but.... > > I switched to online gmail in Sept 2004. > > Since then, I have phones, pc's, internet cafes, all with no problems. > > I also never backup my email, and I have currently over 40 thousand emails > with 1 second response time when I search for any of them. > > Suffice it to say, I am a fan of cloud email, > > My wife is forced to use outlook and I have to say, I do not envy her. > > From this site, > > *The Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, file > named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. * > > Good Luck, > > Mark > > > > > On 11 January 2011 04:33, wrote: > > > I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. > > Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in my > > Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go into > > some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook through the > > task manager. > > > > I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder other > > than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left pane > > and selecting Delete All. > > > > The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook > > he Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, > > file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. opens, it opens to the Inbox > > with this bounced email selected, goes right into the loop and I can't > > do anything else with Outlook. It's well and truly hung. > > > > Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 07:29:16 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:29:16 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Any problems with Google apps? I didn't know about the email -- that's kind of cool. Susan H. > Hi Rocky, > > Google have a free "Gmail for Domains" service. They call it Google Apps. > > I have set up over 100 of these accounts for friends and neighbours in the > last couple of years. > > You create an account with google apps (standard > editionis free > - you do not need the premium edition) > > > Google provide you with some unique data that you then upload to your > domain > registrat (Go Daddy or whomever you use) > Google verify you own the account. > You create users in google for your domain eg, rocky.smolin at bchacc.com, or > max.smolin at bchacc.com > Optional step, You assign nicknames to the users, eg, Rocky, info, sales, > support, papa, themainman > then you go back to Go Daddy and change your MX records to point to google > servers. > > No more backup, no more spam, no more email virus's, no more deleting > files, > no more slow searching, > > all email will come from your domain as if you had an expensive exchange > server and it is all free. > > Also, you have shared calendars and groups and a whole lot more. > > You can leave your existing website where it is, no need to change that, > but > in the future, you have the option of asking google to host the site also, > and then you have free hosting also. > > As I mentioned, if you have any questions, just ask. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Jan 12 11:04:33 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:04:33 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed In-Reply-To: References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Looks interesting. But I'm a slow adopter. When things are working I tend to just leave them alone. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:50 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed Hi Rocky, Google have a free "Gmail for Domains" service. They call it Google Apps. I have set up over 100 of these accounts for friends and neighbours in the last couple of years. You create an account with google apps (standard editionis free - you do not need the premium edition) Google provide you with some unique data that you then upload to your domain registrat (Go Daddy or whomever you use) Google verify you own the account. You create users in google for your domain eg, rocky.smolin at bchacc.com, or max.smolin at bchacc.com Optional step, You assign nicknames to the users, eg, Rocky, info, sales, support, papa, themainman then you go back to Go Daddy and change your MX records to point to google servers. No more backup, no more spam, no more email virus's, no more deleting files, no more slow searching, all email will come from your domain as if you had an expensive exchange server and it is all free. Also, you have shared calendars and groups and a whole lot more. You can leave your existing website where it is, no need to change that, but in the future, you have the option of asking google to host the site also, and then you have free hosting also. As I mentioned, if you have any questions, just ask. HTH Mark On 11 January 2011 13:45, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Scanpst failed. But I got that bad boy out of there anyway. Gmail > would be OK for some things but I like having my business mail go to > my domain - more > professional, I think. Could switch OT and personal there, I suppose. > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:54 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Off Topic > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed > > Hi Rocky, > > I hate to say this when you are having problems, but.... > > I switched to online gmail in Sept 2004. > > Since then, I have phones, pc's, internet cafes, all with no problems. > > I also never backup my email, and I have currently over 40 thousand > emails with 1 second response time when I search for any of them. > > Suffice it to say, I am a fan of cloud email, > > My wife is forced to use outlook and I have to say, I do not envy her. > > From this > site, > > *The Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, > file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. * > > Good Luck, > > Mark > > > > > On 11 January 2011 04:33, wrote: > > > I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. > > Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in > > my Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go > > into some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook > > through the task manager. > > > > I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder > > other than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left > > pane and selecting Delete All. > > > > The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook > > he Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, > > file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install > > the Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in > > 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. opens, it opens > > to the Inbox with this bounced email selected, goes right into the > > loop and I can't do anything else with Outlook. It's well and truly hung. > > > > Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jan 12 11:42:31 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:42:31 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold Message-ID: Hi Jim Not that well, because so much else eats the time, and I haven't yet got my phone. The emulator is fine but I imagine the real fun starts with a real phone. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 21:32 >>> So how is your development coming along? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com; dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold Hi all If you are serious about Windows Phone 7, this 1000+ page monster book from Microsoft is only a 13 MB download + 5 MB for code samples: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2010/10/28/free-ebook-programming-windows-phone-7-by-charles-petzold.aspx Note this: To use this book properly you'll need to download and install the Windows Phone Developer Tools, which includes Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone, XNA Game Studio 4.0, and an on-screen Windows Phone Emulator to test your programs in the absence of an actual device. Get the latest information and downloads at http://developer.windowsphone.com. You can install these tools on top of Visual Studio 2010, in effect enhancing Visual Studio 2010 for phone development. That's the configuration I used. Although you can do quite a bit with the phone emulator, at some point you'll want to deploy your programs to an actual Windows Phone 7 device. You can register as a phone developer at http://developer.windowsphone.com and then have the ability to unlock your phone so you can deploy your programs from Visual Studio. /gustav From john at winhaven.net Fri Jan 14 11:36:35 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:36:35 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Why Is Gorilla Glass So Strong? Message-ID: <00bd01cbb411$9876b030$c9641090$@winhaven.net> I found this interesting: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375657,00.asp From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Jan 16 13:28:09 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:28:09 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer Message-ID: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> Hi Guys, Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 Pro, and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of years later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on Win XP. This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their family. It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do homework and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the first time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help or call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that effect. I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. It displayed this message: "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to start, it displayed this message: "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \system32\hal.dll Please re-install a copy of the above file." I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up being F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to come before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked like a DOS screen with the following message: "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. C:>" and a blinking cursor There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. So, I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? of course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD and rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, and 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section of the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of the screen, and it says "01." When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard drive I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I think maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating system files are. I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer altogether? I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the message that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. Thanks for any ideas, T From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Jan 16 13:55:51 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:55:51 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer In-Reply-To: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> Me again, Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been listed in any of the previous visits to this console. I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r - we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. T Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot > setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 > Pro, and was updated with the second operating system added on a > couple of years later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game > that wouldn't play on Win XP. > > This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their > family. It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting > together their library and study area in their house. The girls often > use it to do homework and to visit online with their friends. Three > days ago, I saw it had the awful blue screen of almost death ? the one > that says if this is the first time you've seen this screen, reboot, > otherwise go get professional help or call the undertaker because your > computer is dead ? or something to that effect. > > I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and > stopped. It displayed this message: > > "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or > corrupt: system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys > You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using > the original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start > repair." > > I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to > start, it displayed this message: > > "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or > corrupt: > \system32\hal.dll > Please re-install a copy of the above file." > > I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by > guess and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it > ended up being F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and > I needed D: to come before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup > CD-ROM and booted. > > Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to > the first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what > looked like a DOS screen with the following message: > > "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. > The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. > Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. > C:>" and a blinking cursor > > There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar > with this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some > recovery and repair functions had happened in the background and it > was time to EXIT. So, I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine > began trying to restart ? of course, I still had the CD in, so we went > back around. I removed the CD and rebooted, with precisely the same > results as before. > > I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, > and 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same > section of the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the > far right of the screen, and it says "01." > > When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is > fine, but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort > of "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing > hard drive I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little > squishy peep. I think maybe the drive has a really bad spot right > where some critical operating system files are. > > I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I > would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any > good advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer > altogether? > > I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the > message that the partition was too full or sick or something and would > have to be formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my > kids do not have their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did > not move ahead. > > Thanks for any ideas, > > T > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From garykjos at gmail.com Sun Jan 16 16:24:16 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:24:16 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer In-Reply-To: <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> Message-ID: I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your best bets for advice on this one. Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix the disk problems if there are any. GK On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Me again, > Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery > Console. ?Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. > ?Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery > Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been > listed in any of the previous visits to this console. > I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r - > we'll see how that goes. ?Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. > T > > Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 Pro, >> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of years >> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on Win >> XP. >> >> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their family. >> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do homework >> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the first >> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help or >> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >> effect. >> >> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. It >> displayed this message: >> >> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: >> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >> >> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >> start, it displayed this message: >> >> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: >> \system32\hal.dll >> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >> >> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess >> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up being >> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to come >> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >> >> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked like a >> DOS screen with the following message: >> >> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >> C:>" and a blinking cursor >> >> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. So, >> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? of >> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD and >> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >> >> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, and >> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section of >> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of the >> screen, and it says "01." >> >> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard drive >> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I think >> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >> system files are. >> >> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >> altogether? >> >> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the message >> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >> >> Thanks for any ideas, >> >> T >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 16 18:05:29 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:05:29 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer In-Reply-To: References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> Message-ID: I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like you hard drive is failing. I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM and XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, image the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean up and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools it will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your best bets for advice on this one. Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix the disk problems if there are any. GK On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Me again, > Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery > Console. ?Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. > ?Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery > Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been > listed in any of the previous visits to this console. > I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r - > we'll see how that goes. ?Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. > T > > Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 Pro, >> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of years >> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on Win >> XP. >> >> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their family. >> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do homework >> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the first >> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help or >> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >> effect. >> >> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. It >> displayed this message: >> >> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: >> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >> >> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >> start, it displayed this message: >> >> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: >> \system32\hal.dll >> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >> >> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess >> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up being >> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to come >> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >> >> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked like a >> DOS screen with the following message: >> >> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >> C:>" and a blinking cursor >> >> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. So, >> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? of >> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD and >> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >> >> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, and >> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section of >> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of the >> screen, and it says "01." >> >> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard drive >> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I think >> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >> system files are. >> >> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >> altogether? >> >> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the message >> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >> >> Thanks for any ideas, >> >> T >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jan 16 21:56:50 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:56:50 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file Message-ID: Dear Lists: I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it for that a lot). Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? TIA Rocky From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:09:52 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:09:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Jim, Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM and > XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With > these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the > drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a > new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean up > and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools it > will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>> > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>> > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >>> effect. >>> >>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> \system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>> > come > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>> > and > >>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>> > the > >>> screen, and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>> > drive > >>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>> altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:31:02 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:31:02 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D3460B6.6070304@torchlake.com> Rocky, Audacity would have been my suggestion. Given the size of the file, maybe the slowness isn't surprising. I use Switch from NCHS to convert wma files to mp3. It offers an edit feature, using WavePad. WavePad has a free trial period, then it costs. Right now the price is about $80. But, the free trial period might be long enough to get the job done. It's a thought. I'll be watching to see what others have to say. T Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to break it > up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow (takes about 8 > minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this (it's great BTW to > transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it for that a lot). > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > TIA > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jan 17 09:49:39 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:49:39 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Just re-image on a new hard drive and you will be good to go another 10 years. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:10 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Jim, Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM and > XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With > these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the > drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a > new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean up > and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools it > will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>> setup - Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>> > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>> awful blue screen of almost death - the one that says if this is the >>> > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead - or something to that >>> effect. >>> >>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> \system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence - by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>> > come > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart - >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>> > and > >>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>> > the > >>> screen, and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>> > drive > >>> I worked on last year - a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>> advice - in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>> altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:44:37 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:44:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> It looks like the template for a web page or site that used to come with PowerPoint. I just looked in my current version and did not find that template, but I remember using it and demonstrating it in a PowerPoint class several years ago. I'll do a little more looking. T Susan Harkins wrote: > > > > > >> I can't get at it. >> >> >> https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA >> >> 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea >> >> pps.li >> >> The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational >> toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that >> adds this >> -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone >> familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle >> with >> icons added to the master slide? >> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 09:54:05 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:54:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <9D7511E6CDF14D5BB2420B64F6B3FF73@salvationomc4p> Thanks Tina -- don't go to any trouble. Just knowing where it comes from answers my question! Thank you! Susan H. > It looks like the template for a web page or site that used to come with > PowerPoint. I just looked in my current version and did not find that > template, but I remember using it and demonstrating it in a PowerPoint > class several years ago. I'll do a little more looking. > T > > Susan Harkins wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> I can't get at it. >>> >>> >>> https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA >>> 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea >>> pps.li >>> >>> The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational >>> toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds >>> this >>> -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone >>> familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle >>> with >>> icons added to the master slide? >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:58:45 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB4 23B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4D346735.4060604@torchlake.com> Aha! I'm working in Office 2003, so you may have to find the equivalents in 2007 or 2010. On the Drawing Toolbar, the Autoshapes collection includes Action Buttons. When you place an Action Button on a slide, the Action Settings dialog box pops up. In there, you specify what slide to link to, what happens with a mouse over, etc. There is also a wizard for selecting what kind of presentation you are going to make - one selection being a web presentation. If you then select to preview your presentation on the web, your browser opens with your presentation loaded and a navigation bar at the left. I hope this helps, T Tina Norris Fields wrote: > It looks like the template for a web page or site that used to come > with PowerPoint. I just looked in my current version and did not find > that template, but I remember using it and demonstrating it in a > PowerPoint class several years ago. I'll do a little more looking. > T > > Susan Harkins wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> I can't get at it. >>> >>> >>> https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA >>> >>> 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea >>> >>> pps.li >>> >>> The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational >>> toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that >>> adds this >>> -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is >>> anyone >>> familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle >>> with >>> icons added to the master slide? >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:59:43 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:59:43 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com><4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4D34676F.2080401@torchlake.com> Right-on! Thanks, Jim. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Just re-image on a new hard drive and you will be good to go another 10 > years. ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:10 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now > > Jim, > Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. > Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk > errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I > looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on > the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After > that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the > existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, > so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the > installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes > and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I > checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on > theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this > morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, > I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, > and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - > since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer > is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. > Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - > it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one > place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very > young. > Best regards, > T > Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like >> > you > >> hard drive is failing. >> >> I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM >> > and > >> XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With >> these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. >> >> OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the >> drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, >> > image > >> the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a >> new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean >> > up > >> and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. >> >> It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools >> > it > >> will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer >> > time. > >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer >> >> I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your >> best bets for advice on this one. >> >> Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you >> could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix >> the disk problems if there are any. >> >> GK >> >> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields >> wrote: >> >> >>> Me again, >>> Did a little searching and found some information about using the >>> > Recovery > >>> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about >>> > 50%. > >>> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >>> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >>> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >>> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk >>> > /r > >>> >>> >> - >> >> >>> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys >>> > have. > >>> T >>> >>> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> >>>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>>> setup - Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>>> >>>> >> Pro, >> >> >>>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>>> >>>> >> years >> >> >>>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>>> >>>> >> Win >> >> >>>> XP. >>>> >>>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>>> >>>> >> family. >> >> >>>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>>> >>>> >> homework >> >> >>>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>>> awful blue screen of almost death - the one that says if this is the >>>> >>>> >> first >> >> >>>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>>> >>>> >> or >> >> >>>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead - or something to that >>>> effect. >>>> >>>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>>> >>>> >> It >> >> >>>> displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>>> >>>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>>> start, it displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> \system32\hal.dll >>>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>>> >>>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence - by >>>> > guess > >>>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>>> >>>> >> being >> >> >>>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>>> >>>> >> come >> >> >>>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>>> >>>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>>> >>>> >> like a >> >> >>>> DOS screen with the following message: >>>> >>>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>>> >>>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar >>>> > with > >>>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>>> >>>> >> So, >> >> >>>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart - >>>> >>>> >> of >> >> >>>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>>> >>>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same >>>> > section > >>>> >>>> >> of >> >> >>>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>>> >>>> >> the >> >> >>>> screen, and it says "01." >>>> >>>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is >>>> > fine, > >>>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>>> >>>> >> drive >> >> >>>> I worked on last year - a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>>> >>>> >> think >> >> >>>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical >>>> > operating > >>>> system files are. >>>> >>>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>>> advice - in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>>> altogether? >>>> >>>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>>> >>>> >> message >> >> >>>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to >>>> > be > >>>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not >>>> > have > >>>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any ideas, >>>> >>>> T >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 10:19:51 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:19:51 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> <4D346735.4060604@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Thanks Tina -- this is great information! Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Norris Fields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question > Aha! I'm working in Office 2003, so you may have to find the equivalents > in 2007 or 2010. On the Drawing Toolbar, the Autoshapes collection > includes Action Buttons. When you place an Action Button on a slide, the > Action Settings dialog box pops up. In there, you specify what slide to > link to, what happens with a mouse over, etc. > There is also a wizard for selecting what kind of presentation you are > going to make - one selection being a web presentation. If you then > select to preview your presentation on the web, your browser opens with > your presentation loaded and a navigation bar at the left. > I hope this helps, > T > > > Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> It looks like the template for a web page or site that used to come with >> PowerPoint. I just looked in my current version and did not find that >> template, but I remember using it and demonstrating it in a PowerPoint >> class several years ago. I'll do a little more looking. >> T >> >> Susan Harkins wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I can't get at it. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA >>>> 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea >>>> pps.li >>>> >>>> The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational >>>> toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds >>>> this >>>> -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is >>>> anyone >>>> familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle >>>> with >>>> icons added to the master slide? >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Mon Jan 17 10:25:57 2011 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:25:57 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Tina, you wrote: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you that backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush current stresses the electronic components. Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris Fields Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Jim, Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM and > XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With > these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the > drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a > new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean up > and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools it > will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>> > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>> > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >>> effect. >>> >>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> \system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>> > come > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>> > and > >>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>> > the > >>> screen, and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>> > drive > >>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>> altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Mon Jan 17 10:28:24 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:28:24 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: I read an article somewhere once that said if your hard drive makes it past 6 months, the chances are it'll last more than 6 years. Mind you, it did also go on to say that if it failed, a "gentle" nudge against the hard brick wall might be enough to get it going again long enough to recover the data. I haven't tried that myself though... But only due to lack of opportunity :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: 17 January 2011 16:26 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Tina, you wrote: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you that backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush current stresses the electronic components. Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris Fields Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Jim, Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound > like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB > RAM and > XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. > With these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save > the drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is > recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, > install a new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition > Master to clean up > and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the > tools it > will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the >> Recovery Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they >> had not been listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running >> chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual >>> boot setup - Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a >>> Win 2000 >>> > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple >>> of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't >>> play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together >>> their library and study area in their house. The girls often use it >>> to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had >>> the awful blue screen of almost death - the one that says if this is >>> the >>> > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional >>> help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead - or something to >>> that effect. >>> >>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using >>> the original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> \system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence - by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended >>> up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: >>> to >>> > come > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to >>> the first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what >>> looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery >>> and repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to >>> restart - >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the >>> CD >>> > and > >>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, >>> 4, >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far >>> right of >>> > the > >>> screen, and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing >>> hard >>> > drive > >>> I worked on last year - a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. >>> I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, >>> I would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any >>> good advice - in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new >>> computer altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have >>> to be >>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From john at winhaven.net Mon Jan 17 14:00:42 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:00:42 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <01b601cbb681$38ef14a0$aacd3de0$@winhaven.net> That works sometimes ;-) I've been going through all my old parts and testing them as I can. None of the IDE hard drives I've tested with Spin Rite have passed. I guess having old hard drivers in the storage cabinet is a waste of space. I've also had quite a few 6-7 PCs come this past year with failing hard drives. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough I read an article somewhere once that said if your hard drive makes it past 6 months, the chances are it'll last more than 6 years. Mind you, it did also go on to say that if it failed, a "gentle" nudge against the hard brick wall might be enough to get it going again long enough to recover the data. I haven't tried that myself though... But only due to lack of opportunity :-) From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 15:46:54 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:46:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D34B8CE.60605@torchlake.com> Helmut, Sie haben Recht! Did I say that correctly? T Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Tina, > you wrote: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots > of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - > and most of its users are very young. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you that > backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give > you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes > without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but > you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after > minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since > more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance > might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to > hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush > current stresses the electronic components. > > Helmut > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris > Fields > Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 > An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now > > > Jim, > Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. > Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk > errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I > looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on > the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After > that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the > existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, > so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the > installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes > and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I > checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on > theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this > morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, > I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, > and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - > since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer > is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. > Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - > it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one > place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very > young. > Best regards, > T > Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like >> > you > >> hard drive is failing. >> >> I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM >> > and > >> XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With >> these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. >> >> OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the >> drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, >> > image > >> the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a >> new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean >> > up > >> and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. >> >> It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools >> > it > >> will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer >> > time. > >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer >> >> I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your >> best bets for advice on this one. >> >> Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you >> could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix >> the disk problems if there are any. >> >> GK >> >> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields >> wrote: >> >> >>> Me again, >>> Did a little searching and found some information about using the >>> > Recovery > >>> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about >>> > 50%. > >>> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >>> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >>> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >>> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk >>> > /r > >> - >> >> >>> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys >>> > have. > >>> T >>> >>> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> >>>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>>> >>>> >> Pro, >> >> >>>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>>> >>>> >> years >> >> >>>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>>> >>>> >> Win >> >> >>>> XP. >>>> >>>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>>> >>>> >> family. >> >> >>>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>>> >>>> >> homework >> >> >>>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>>> >>>> >> first >> >> >>>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>>> >>>> >> or >> >> >>>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >>>> effect. >>>> >>>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>>> >>>> >> It >> >> >>>> displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>>> >>>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>>> start, it displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> \system32\hal.dll >>>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>>> >>>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by >>>> > guess > >>>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>>> >>>> >> being >> >> >>>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>>> >>>> >> come >> >> >>>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>>> >>>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>>> >>>> >> like a >> >> >>>> DOS screen with the following message: >>>> >>>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>>> >>>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar >>>> > with > >>>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>>> >>>> >> So, >> >> >>>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? >>>> >>>> >> of >> >> >>>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>>> >>>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same >>>> > section > >> of >> >> >>>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>>> >>>> >> the >> >> >>>> screen, and it says "01." >>>> >>>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is >>>> > fine, > >>>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>>> >>>> >> drive >> >> >>>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>>> >>>> >> think >> >> >>>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical >>>> > operating > >>>> system files are. >>>> >>>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>>> altogether? >>>> >>>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>>> >>>> >> message >> >> >>>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to >>>> > be > >>>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not >>>> > have > >>>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any ideas, >>>> >>>> T >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jan 17 15:55:19 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:55:19 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com>, , Message-ID: <4D34BAC7.4226.1446415D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Another trick that I've employed in the past is to stick the drive in a deep freeze. I did that successfully and retrieved data a few times - but it generally only worked for a quarter of an hour or so until ithe drive heated back. That was back in the days of much smaller drives when you didn't need it to keep running for hours to copy everything of it. -- Stuart On 17 Jan 2011 at 17:28, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > I read an article somewhere once that said if your hard drive makes it > past 6 months, the chances are it'll last more than 6 years. Mind you, > it did also go on to say that if it failed, a "gentle" nudge against > the hard brick wall might be enough to get it going again long enough > to recover the data. > > I haven't tried that myself though... But only due to lack of > opportunity :-) > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut > Kotsch Sent: 17 January 2011 16:26 To: Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - > solved for now > > Tina, > you wrote: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that > gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many > times in its life - and most of its users are very young. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell > you that backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No > manufacturer will give you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run > even more than 10 minutes without loosing data. They might advertise > an average MTBF of 5 years but you could have bought the one in > thousands that is bad and dies after minutes, a day or a year. I have > hard drives running 24/7 365 days since more than 10 years without any > problems. One reason for this performance might be that they are > hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to hard drives because > the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush current stresses > the electronic components. > > Helmut > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina > Norris Fields Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 An: Discussion > of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to > revive a computer - solved for now > > > Jim, > Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. > Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk > errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I > looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r > on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. > After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair > the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last > night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by > the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made > notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it > needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate > it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 > this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This > morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet > connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still > need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at > least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now > about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the > hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and > has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and > most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound > > like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount > place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB > RAM and > XP home...no idea > what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. > With these sorts > of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, > Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save > the > drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is > > recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like > DriveImage XML, > install a new drive then re-image it back and use > EASEUS Partition > Master to clean up > and re-partition the new > drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than > that of course but if you have the > tools it > will take about an > hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware > and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a > computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim > are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds > like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite > from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk > problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, > Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, > >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the > Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got > stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time > when I got to the >> Recovery Console, the two installations of > Windows were listed - they >> had not been listed in any of the > previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows > installation and am now running >> chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how > that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> > >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can > help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual >>> boot setup - > Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a >>> Win 2000 >>> > > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on > a couple >>> of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept > because of a game that wouldn't >>> play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> > >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their > >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish > putting together >>> their library and study area in their house. The > girls often use it >>> to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online > with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had >>> the awful blue > screen of almost death - the one that says if this is >>> the >>> > > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get > professional >>> help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your > computer is dead - or something to >>> that effect. >>> >>> I > rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. > >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not > start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> > system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by > starting Windows Setup using >>> the original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' > at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the > other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed > this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following > file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> root>\system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above > file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot > sequence - by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it > needed (I think it ended >>> up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not > sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: >>> to >>> > come > > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. > >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then > came to >>> the first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me > to what >>> looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following > message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The > Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. > >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. > >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other > instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this > Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery >>> and > repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to > EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine > began trying to >>> restart - >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the > CD in, so we went back around. I removed the >>> CD >>> > and > >>> > rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have > run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, >>> 4, > >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported > in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical > report screen, it is at the far >>> right of >>> > the > >>> screen, > and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot > sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system > selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds > me of the noise made by that failing >>> hard >>> > drive > >>> I > worked on last year - a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. >>> > I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where > some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know > what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, >>> I would > certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any >>> good > advice - in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new >>> computer > altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it > came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full > or sick or something and would have >>> to be >>> formatted before > installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their > stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> > Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing > list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing > list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hkotsch at arcor.de Mon Jan 17 16:03:32 2011 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:03:32 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: <4D34B8CE.60605@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Better would be: Sie haben immer Recht! Helmut ;-) -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris Fields Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 22:47 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Helmut, Sie haben Recht! Did I say that correctly? T Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Tina, > you wrote: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots > of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - > and most of its users are very young. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you that > backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give > you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes > without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but > you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after > minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since > more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance > might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to > hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush > current stresses the electronic components. > > Helmut > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris > Fields > Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 > An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now > > > Jim, > Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. > Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk > errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I > looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on > the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After > that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the > existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, > so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the > installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes > and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I > checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on > theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this > morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, > I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, > and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - > since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer > is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. > Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - > it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one > place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very > young. > Best regards, > T > Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like >> > you > >> hard drive is failing. >> >> I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM >> > and > >> XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With >> these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. >> >> OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the >> drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, >> > image > >> the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a >> new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean >> > up > >> and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. >> >> It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools >> > it > >> will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer >> > time. > >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer >> >> I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your >> best bets for advice on this one. >> >> Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you >> could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix >> the disk problems if there are any. >> >> GK >> >> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields >> wrote: >> >> >>> Me again, >>> Did a little searching and found some information about using the >>> > Recovery > >>> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about >>> > 50%. > >>> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >>> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >>> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >>> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk >>> > /r > >> - >> >> >>> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys >>> > have. > >>> T >>> >>> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> >>>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>>> >>>> >> Pro, >> >> >>>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>>> >>>> >> years >> >> >>>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>>> >>>> >> Win >> >> >>>> XP. >>>> >>>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>>> >>>> >> family. >> >> >>>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>>> >>>> >> homework >> >> >>>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>>> >>>> >> first >> >> >>>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>>> >>>> >> or >> >> >>>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >>>> effect. >>>> >>>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>>> >>>> >> It >> >> >>>> displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>>> >>>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>>> start, it displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> \system32\hal.dll >>>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>>> >>>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by >>>> > guess > >>>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>>> >>>> >> being >> >> >>>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>>> >>>> >> come >> >> >>>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>>> >>>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>>> >>>> >> like a >> >> >>>> DOS screen with the following message: >>>> >>>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>>> >>>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar >>>> > with > >>>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>>> >>>> >> So, >> >> >>>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? >>>> >>>> >> of >> >> >>>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>>> >>>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same >>>> > section > >> of >> >> >>>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>>> >>>> >> the >> >> >>>> screen, and it says "01." >>>> >>>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is >>>> > fine, > >>>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>>> >>>> >> drive >> >> >>>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>>> >>>> >> think >> >> >>>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical >>>> > operating > >>>> system files are. >>>> >>>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>>> altogether? >>>> >>>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>>> >>>> >> message >> >> >>>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to >>>> > be > >>>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not >>>> > have > >>>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any ideas, >>>> >>>> T >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 20:09:15 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:09:15 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D34F64B.50101@torchlake.com> How could I have left that out? :-) T Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Better would be: Sie haben immer Recht! > > Helmut ;-) > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris > Fields > Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 22:47 > An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now > > > Helmut, Sie haben Recht! Did I say that correctly? > T > > Helmut Kotsch wrote: > >> Tina, >> you wrote: >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets >> > lots > >> of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its >> > life - > >> and most of its users are very young. >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you >> > that > >> backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give >> you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes >> without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but >> you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after >> minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since >> more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance >> might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to >> hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush >> current stresses the electronic components. >> >> Helmut >> >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris >> Fields >> Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 >> An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now >> >> >> Jim, >> Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. >> Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk >> errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I >> looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on >> the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After >> that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the >> existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, >> so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the >> installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes >> and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I >> checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on >> theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this >> morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, >> I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, >> and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - >> since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer >> is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. >> Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - >> it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one >> place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very >> young. >> Best regards, >> T >> Jim Lawrence wrote: >> >> >>> I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like >>> >>> >> you >> >> >>> hard drive is failing. >>> >>> I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM >>> >>> >> and >> >> >>> XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With >>> these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. >>> >>> OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save >>> > the > >>> drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, >>> >>> >> image >> >> >>> the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install >>> > a > >>> new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean >>> >>> >> up >> >> >>> and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. >>> >>> It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools >>> >>> >> it >> >> >>> will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer >>> >>> >> time. >> >> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM >>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer >>> >>> I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your >>> best bets for advice on this one. >>> >>> Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you >>> could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix >>> the disk problems if there are any. >>> >>> GK >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Me again, >>>> Did a little searching and found some information about using the >>>> >>>> >> Recovery >> >> >>>> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about >>>> >>>> >> 50%. >> >> >>>> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >>>> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not >>>> > been > >>>> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >>>> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk >>>> >>>> >> /r >> >> >>> - >>> >>> >>> >>>> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys >>>> >>>> >> have. >> >> >>>> T >>>> >>>> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>>>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> Pro, >>> >>> >>> >>>>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> years >>> >>> >>> >>>>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play >>>>> > on > >>>>> >>> Win >>> >>> >>> >>>>> XP. >>>>> >>>>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> family. >>> >>> >>> >>>>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>>>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> homework >>> >>> >>> >>>>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had >>>>> > the > >>>>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> first >>> >>> >>> >>>>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional >>>>> > help > >>>>> >>> or >>> >>> >>> >>>>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to >>>>> > that > >>>>> effect. >>>>> >>>>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> It >>> >>> >>> >>>>> displayed this message: >>>>> >>>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> corrupt: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>>>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>>>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>>>> >>>>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>>>> start, it displayed this message: >>>>> >>>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> corrupt: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> \system32\hal.dll >>>>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>>>> >>>>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by >>>>> >>>>> >> guess >> >> >>>>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> being >>> >>> >>> >>>>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> come >>> >>> >>> >>>>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>>>> >>>>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>>>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> like a >>> >>> >>> >>>>> DOS screen with the following message: >>>>> >>>>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>>>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>>>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>>>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>>>> >>>>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar >>>>> >>>>> >> with >> >> >>>>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>>>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to >>>>> > EXIT. > >>>>> >>> So, >>> >>> >>> >>>>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to >>>>> > restart ? > >>>>> >>> of >>> >>> >>> >>>>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> and >>> >>> >>> >>>>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>>>> >>>>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> and >>> >>> >>> >>>>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same >>>>> >>>>> >> section >> >> >>> of >>> >>> >>> >>>>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right >>>>> > of > >>>>> >>> the >>> >>> >>> >>>>> screen, and it says "01." >>>>> >>>>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is >>>>> >>>>> >> fine, >> >> >>>>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>>>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> drive >>> >>> >>> >>>>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> think >>> >>> >>> >>>>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical >>>>> >>>>> >> operating >> >> >>>>> system files are. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>>>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>>>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>>>> altogether? >>>>> >>>>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> message >>> >>> >>> >>>>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to >>>>> >>>>> >> be >> >> >>>>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not >>>>> >>>>> >> have >> >> >>>>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any ideas, >>>>> >>>>> T >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 18 01:27:25 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:27:25 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] The most popular programming languages In-Reply-To: References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <91C71C4536774CEBA75F0C8B0CC94D3A@creativesystemdesigns.com> The most popular programming languages are difficult to establish. Here is a link to a site which tries to answer that question: http://www.dataists.com/2010/12/ranking-the-popularity-of-programming-langau ges/ Jim From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 03:06:04 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:06:04 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Rocky I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from acrowd called Mixmeister ? it is vastly easier to use than Audacity ?the comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a shot, HTH Mark On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to break it > up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow (takes about 8 > minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this (it's great BTW to > transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it for that a lot). > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > TIA > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 18 04:00:50 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:00:50 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any point in the file and select "Split into two files". It is instantaneous. You get two windows replacing the original one with a part in each. Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for four "chunks". Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of them separately. Voila!!! -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Rocky > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from > >>acrowd > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > shot, > > HTH > > Mark > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > > Dear Lists: > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it > > for that a lot). > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jon.tydda at lonza.com Tue Jan 18 04:03:16 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:03:16 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Can you also join two MP3's with that software? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: 18 January 2011 10:01 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any point in the file and select "Split into two files". It is instantaneous. You get two windows replacing the original one with a part in each. Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for four "chunks". Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of them separately. Voila!!! -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Rocky > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from > >>acrowd > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > shot, > > HTH > > Mark > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > > Dear Lists: > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it > > for that a lot). > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 18 04:13:09 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:13:09 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: , <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, Message-ID: <4D3567B5.2152.1DFB9A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Yes. Just open a file, select Edit - Insert File and select Begin, Current or End for where you want to insert it and then select the second file. -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 11:03, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > Can you also join two MP3's with that software? > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart > McLachlan Sent: 18 January 2011 10:01 To: Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file > > My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in > the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. > > http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html > > A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any point > in the file and select "Split into two files". It is instantaneous. > You get two windows replacing the original one with a part in each. > > Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for > four "chunks". > > Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of > them separately. > > Voila!!! > > -- > Stuart > > On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > > > Hello Rocky > > > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from > > >>acrowd > > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > > shot, > > > > HTH > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Lists: > > > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > > > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > > > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > > > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it > > > for that a lot). > > > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job > > > done? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 18 04:36:13 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:36:13 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: <4D3567B5.2152.1DFB9A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , , <4D3567B5.2152.1DFB9A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4D356D1D.14025.1F4D82F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Just been playing it a bit more. I opened the 60 odd MB file, inserted the same file three times at the end of the original and then saved te resulting 4 1/2 hour 255 MB file ( it took several minutes to write it to disk). It took about 2 1/2 minutes to load that file back in to the program. All this on my couple of years old laptop. -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 20:13, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Yes. > > Just open a file, select Edit - Insert File and select Begin, Current > or End for where you want to insert it and then select the second > file. > > -- > Stuart > > On 18 Jan 2011 at 11:03, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > > > Can you also join two MP3's with that software? > > > > > > Jon > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart > > McLachlan Sent: 18 January 2011 10:01 To: Discussion of Hardware and > > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file > > > > My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in > > the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. > > > > http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html > > > > A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any > > point in the file and select "Split into two files". It is > > instantaneous. You get two windows replacing the original one with a > > part in each. > > > > Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for > > four "chunks". > > > > Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of > > them separately. > > > > Voila!!! > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > > > > > Hello Rocky > > > > > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > > > > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes > > > >>from acrowd > > > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > > > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > > > > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > > > shot, > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Lists: > > > > > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need > > > > to break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too > > > > slow (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward > > > > for this (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key > > > > - I use it for that a lot). > > > > > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job > > > > done? > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If > > you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jan 18 08:07:36 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:07:36 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll check it out. Thanx. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:06 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file Hello Rocky I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from >>acrowd called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a shot, HTH Mark On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it for that a lot). > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > TIA > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jan 18 08:08:25 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:08:25 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <53284D95F01C4729A6AFE525FF9EC43F@HAL9005> Seems like exactly what I need. Thanks. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:01 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any point in the file and select "Split into two files". It is instantaneous. You get two windows replacing the original one with a part in each. Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for four "chunks". Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of them separately. Voila!!! -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Rocky > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from > >>acrowd > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > shot, > > HTH > > Mark > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > > Dear Lists: > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it > > for that a lot). > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 11:42:17 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:42:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] IIS Virtual directories in Windows 7 Message-ID: I'm trying to run DotNetNuke using IIS in Windows 7. The DNN stuff is in d:\DotNetNuke so I need to create a virtual directory to point there. The UI has changed quite a bit and I can't figure out how to do it. Suggestions? TIA, Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jan 24 12:05:42 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:05:42 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Commodore is not dead In-Reply-To: <09B4860970F14CB7871491B648C732D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <000601cb9cc0$edb7ca10$c9275e30$@winhaven.net> <09B4860970F14CB7871491B648C732D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <9A5D331BE9E741D8B2CC3A1263D89069@creativesystemdesigns.com> For all your old guys with a nostalgia bent here is a new Commodore (64). http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx Jim From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jan 25 02:45:00 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:45:00 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] IIS Virtual directories in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Arthur You need to create a website in IIS as normal, and then point that site to the physical directory on your D Drive. Do you know that you also have to assign Network service write / edit permissions on that folder in D ? Have you read about the new app pool security settings that you need to get right in IIS 7.0 / 7.5 ? There are loads of articles about it, but do not fumble around for hours - don't ask me how I know - read the articles and then make your settings. in my IIS here, I have the app pool running in integrated mode, under the identity of network service. You must get this stuff right otherwise it will not work for you. finally make sure to assign network service as a user to your db as well - do not forget this also and again I repeat - don't ask me how I know. If I can help with anything, just ask. I am using it for a while now and find it useful Mark On 20 January 2011 17:42, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I'm trying to run DotNetNuke using IIS in Windows 7. The DNN stuff is in > d:\DotNetNuke so I need to create a virtual directory to point there. The > UI has changed quite a bit and I can't figure out how to do it. > Suggestions? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jan 26 16:05:07 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:05:07 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user Message-ID: I'm trying to install DotNetNuke in Windows 7 and SQL 2008. I've configured IIS and created a DNN database, but now I'm stumbling on a new problem. The tut says right-click on the directory and select properties and its security tab, then choose Network Service from the list of users. It isn't in the list. I don't know why. How can I make it appear? Alternatively, can I use another one instead, such as SYSTEM? TIA, Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jan 26 16:20:16 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:20:16 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2468C0AA0A3744A2937A26A148CDD029@creativesystemdesigns.com> Are the tutorials for the community or for the paid version? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:05 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user I'm trying to install DotNetNuke in Windows 7 and SQL 2008. I've configured IIS and created a DNN database, but now I'm stumbling on a new problem. The tut says right-click on the directory and select properties and its security tab, then choose Network Service from the list of users. It isn't in the list. I don't know why. How can I make it appear? Alternatively, can I use another one instead, such as SYSTEM? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Jan 27 03:26:05 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:26:05 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Arthur, You will need network service. If you click edit then you have the option of adding another user to the list, type network and click check and it will find it. You are nearly there :) Mark On 26 January 2011 22:05, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I'm trying to install DotNetNuke in Windows 7 and SQL 2008. I've configured > IIS and created a DNN database, but now I'm stumbling on a new problem. The > tut says right-click on the directory and select properties and its security > tab, then choose Network Service from the list of users. It isn't in the > list. I don't know why. How can I make it appear? Alternatively, can I use > another one instead, such as SYSTEM? > > TIA, > Arthur > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Jan 27 14:03:03 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:03:03 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03AA729FAB9C4C888105AD769A457723@creativesystemdesigns.com> Arthur, I should have guessed that right-away but have never been on a site where network services have not already been installed. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:26 AM To: Arthur Fuller Cc: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user Hello Arthur, You will need network service. If you click edit then you have the option of adding another user to the list, type network and click check and it will find it. You are nearly there :) Mark On 26 January 2011 22:05, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I'm trying to install DotNetNuke in Windows 7 and SQL 2008. I've configured > IIS and created a DNN database, but now I'm stumbling on a new problem. The > tut says right-click on the directory and select properties and its security > tab, then choose Network Service from the list of users. It isn't in the > list. I don't know why. How can I make it appear? Alternatively, can I use > another one instead, such as SYSTEM? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 30 11:13:07 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:13:07 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] New substance for chip designs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2593FDC4FA934CCC922AE0F471BDACB0@creativesystemdesigns.com> You may already be aware of this new substance for chip designs but it was new to me. Two Russian scientists discovered a substance which has been labeled as Graphene (graphite). The interesting thing is that this substance only needs to be one atom thick to allow the reliable flow of electrons (electricity). This chemical will allow computer chip designs to move in a whole different directions. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 13:09:29 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:09:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question Message-ID: https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officeapps.li The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds this -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle with icons added to the master slide? Thanks! Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 15:09:34 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:09:34 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Snap to behavior gone in PowerPoint Message-ID: I have PowerPoint 2003 and 2010 installed on the same system and still using Windows XP. Snap to behavior is gone -- both for the grid and snap to objects. I've googled it and I see lots of hits but nothing that actually explains what's happened or how to get it back! Didn't find anything in the knowledgebase. I checked the Registry but I didn't find any settings for this behavior, so I didn't actually do anything. Anyone had this happen to them? Susan H. From john at winhaven.net Mon Jan 3 15:09:47 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:09:47 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> I can't get at it. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 1:09 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea pps.li The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds this -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle with icons added to the master slide? Thanks! Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 15:27:33 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:27:33 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> >I can't get at it. > > > https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA > 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea > pps.li > > The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational > toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds > this > -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone > familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle with > icons added to the master slide? > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jan 3 15:28:15 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:28:15 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> References: , <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <4D223F6F.9078.C01420D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Neither can I. On 3 Jan 2011 at 15:09, John Bartow wrote: > I can't get at it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan > Harkins Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 1:09 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question > > https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337 > B938EA > 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=o > fficea pps.li > > The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom > navigational toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in > feature that adds this -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons > that have links. Is anyone familiar with this technique -- is that > what it is, just a rectangle with icons added to the master slide? > > Thanks! > Susan H. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jan 3 15:34:35 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:34:35 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Snap to behavior gone in PowerPoint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D2240EB.18261.C070FA8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> For 2003 - this is configured under View - Grid and Guides. Are they correct options ticked there? On 3 Jan 2011 at 16:09, Susan Harkins wrote: > I have PowerPoint 2003 and 2010 installed on the same system and still > using Windows XP. > > Snap to behavior is gone -- both for the grid and snap to objects. > I've googled it and I see lots of hits but nothing that actually > explains what's happened or how to get it back! Didn't find anything > in the knowledgebase. > > I checked the Registry but I didn't find any settings for this > behavior, so I didn't actually do anything. > > Anyone had this happen to them? > > Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 15:38:52 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:38:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Snap to behavior gone in PowerPoint References: <4D2240EB.18261.C070FA8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Yes, the option is checked, it just doesn't worked. Checked both installed versions too -- neither snap to options are working in either version -- even when properly checked. I'm sorry -- I should've mentioned that in my question. Susan H. > For 2003 - this is configured under View - Grid and Guides. Are they > correct options ticked > there? From john at winhaven.net Wed Jan 5 08:57:33 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:57:33 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <00d701cbace8$e2f2e370$a8d8aa50$@winhaven.net> I don't know what that it but then its on the web and I Haven't done much with PowerPoint on the web. Is this also a stand alone presentation that you can post? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 3:28 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question >I can't get at it. > > > https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337 > B938EA > 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=o > fficea > pps.li > > The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom > navigational toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in > feature that adds this > -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is > anyone familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a > rectangle with icons added to the master slide? > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 09:06:03 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:06:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <00d701cbace8$e2f2e370$a8d8aa50$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <0232D022C72C4104B06EE3153919C3B3@salvationomc4p> No, not that I can find. Susan H. >I don't know what that it but then its on the web and I Haven't done much > with PowerPoint on the web. Is this also a stand alone presentation that > you > can post? From john at winhaven.net Wed Jan 5 09:37:57 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 09:37:57 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <0232D022C72C4104B06EE3153919C3B3@salvationomc4p> References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <00d701cbace8$e2f2e370$a8d8aa50$@winhaven.net> <0232D022C72C4104B06EE3153919C3B3@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <00f201cbacee$86e8aaa0$94b9ffe0$@winhaven.net> Is it maybe a function of PowerPoint on the web? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:06 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question No, not that I can find. Susan H. >I don't know what that it but then its on the web and I Haven't done >much with PowerPoint on the web. Is this also a stand alone >presentation that you can post? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 09:41:29 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:41:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <00d701cbace8$e2f2e370$a8d8aa50$@winhaven.net><0232D022C72C4104B06EE3153919C3B3@salvationomc4p> <00f201cbacee$86e8aaa0$94b9ffe0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: That's certainly possible, I hadn't really thought of that. Susan H. > Is it maybe a function of PowerPoint on the web? From rustykh at yahoo.com Sat Jan 8 15:19:29 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:19:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Jan 8 15:29:49 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:29:49 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D28D74D.17111.EAAF997@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Implement IMAP? http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes.htm or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of > our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a > Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and > with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to > have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall > and server to allow users to securely connect? > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jan 8 16:03:49 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:03:49 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <88381E8B56FE4B00B14E6516A367A5FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> I have a friend who spent months perfecting email to blackberries on a SBS 2003. I will call him and arrange for you to converse...if you would like. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Sat Jan 8 21:48:09 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:48:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <754654.41735.qm@web65407.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Thanks.? The one article talks about a front end server.? I was afraid it might take something like that to hide the production server from the web. ? From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Implement IMAP? http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes.htm or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of > our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones.? I'm using a > Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and > with a dynamic IP address.? I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to > have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall > and server to allow users to securely connect? > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Sat Jan 8 21:49:31 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:49:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <164673.4815.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> >From what I understand of Blackberries, you have to install software specifically for your blackberry device or pay to use their service.? Luckily we don't have any blackberry users. ? From: Jim Lawrence To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 4:03:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a friend who spent months perfecting email to blackberries on a SBS 2003. I will call him and arrange for you to converse...if you would like. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones.? I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address.? I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond ? ? ? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Jan 8 22:19:35 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:19:35 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <754654.41735.qm@web65407.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <754654.41735.qm@web65407.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D293757.25771.1022230E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the appropriate port to your SBS Server. -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > Thanks.? The one article talks about a front end server.? I was afraid > it might take something like that to hide the production server from > the web. > > ? > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > smartphones > > Implement IMAP? > > http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes > .htm > > or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? > > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html > > -- > Stuart > > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some > > of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones.? I'm > > using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our > > network and with a dynamic IP address.? I can use DynDns or no-ip if > > I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on > > the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? > > > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jan 8 23:04:24 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:04:24 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <164673.4815.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <164673.4815.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Actually, cell phones using Windows, as you would imagine are supposed to be a lot easier to install and maintain. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:50 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones >From what I understand of Blackberries, you have to install software specifically for your blackberry device or pay to use their service.? Luckily we don't have any blackberry users. ? From: Jim Lawrence To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 4:03:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a friend who spent months perfecting email to blackberries on a SBS 2003. I will call him and arrange for you to converse...if you would like. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones.? I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address.? I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond ? ? ? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Jan 9 05:49:31 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:49:31 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Most new smartphones come with an Exchange plug-in on them. The iPhones, Androids and Windows phones that I've seen do, at least. Even the Nokia phones on Symbian have a Mail for Exchange tool, so I can't see that it would be too hard to do. Blackberries are another matter. I believe you have to install Blackberry Enterprise Server on your Exchange server to make them talk. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: 08 January 2011 21:19 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 9 11:14:07 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 09:14:07 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: References: <463683.57358.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <059EE3939A884F21A117DF15F2A711CA@creativesystemdesigns.com> I will attest to that... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 3:50 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Most new smartphones come with an Exchange plug-in on them. The iPhones, Androids and Windows phones that I've seen do, at least. Even the Nokia phones on Symbian have a Mail for Exchange tool, so I can't see that it would be too hard to do. Blackberries are another matter. I believe you have to install Blackberry Enterprise Server on your Exchange server to make them talk. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: 08 January 2011 21:19 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 14:33:41 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:33:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type of security that does away with the need for the front end server? From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the appropriate port to your SBS Server. -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was afraid > it might take something like that to hide the production server from > the web. > > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > smartphones > > Implement IMAP? > > http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes > .htm > > or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? > > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html > > -- > Stuart > > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some > > of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm > > using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our > > network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if > > I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on > > the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? > > > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 14:36:17 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:36:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <735254.78055.qm@web65413.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Yes, I was just looking at the corprate e-mail on my droid and it is designed to connect directly to an Exchange server. Opening up the port to go to the server I "think" is going to be the easy part. Making it a secure connection and blocking hackers is my other concern. From: Jon Tydda To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2011 5:49:31 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Most new smartphones come with an Exchange plug-in on them. The iPhones, Androids and Windows phones that I've seen do, at least. Even the Nokia phones on Symbian have a Mail for Exchange tool, so I can't see that it would be too hard to do. Blackberries are another matter. I believe you have to install Blackberry Enterprise Server on your Exchange server to make them talk. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: 08 January 2011 21:19 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? Any ideas or links would be appreciated. Thanks, Rusty Hammond _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Jan 9 15:03:33 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:03:33 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D2A22A5.1310.13B94D5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> It all depends on what you are doing on your Lan and on the Internet. You would use a separate "Front End Server" to serve up information to Internet baed clients such as your public website, publicly available files etc. This generally sits in a "de- militarized zone" outside of your firewall. That separates your public data from your private data and keesp your private data away from the internet. In your case, you are talking about making your private data available over the internet. That is a different situation. Your security there comes from your router/firewalll and what traffic you allow to/from your IIS/Exchange servers. -- Stuart On 9 Jan 2011 at 12:33, Rusty Hammond wrote: > I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of > security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type > of security that does away with the need for the front end server? > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > 10:19:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > smartphones > > If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you > don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the > appropriate port to your SBS Server. > > -- > Stuart > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was > > afraid it might take something like that to hide the production > > server from the web. > > > > > > > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > > 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > > smartphones > > > > Implement IMAP? > > > > http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailbox > > es .htm > > > > or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? > > > > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > > > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow > > > some of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. > > > I'm using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and > > > our network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or > > > no-ip if I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to > > > make on the firewall and server to allow users to securely > > > connect? > > > > > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 9 15:36:14 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:36:14 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <722270.14662.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A FE server though it does and can provide another layer of security is not really necessary. If setup correctly the SBS is all that is needed. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:34 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type of security that does away with the need for the front end server? From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the appropriate port to your SBS Server. -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was afraid > it might take something like that to hide the production server from > the web. > > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 > 3:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and > smartphones > > Implement IMAP? > > http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-enable-imap-access-to-exchange-mailboxes > .htm > > or Outlook Web Access/Outlook Mobile Access? > > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5671303.html > > -- > Stuart > > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 13:19, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > I have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange that I need to allow some > > of our users to get their e-mail from on their smartphones. I'm > > using a Sonicwall firewall appliance between the internet and our > > network and with a dynamic IP address. I can use DynDns or no-ip if > > I need to have a static ip but what settings to I need to make on > > the firewall and server to allow users to securely connect? > > > > Any ideas or links would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rusty Hammond > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sun Jan 9 16:04:49 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 23:04:49 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: Hi Jim That's how I have understood it as well. The scenario MS describes with a separate FE/OWA server is for a larger scale setup to release the main Exchange server(s) from the web access and mobile load. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 09-01-2011 22:36 >>> A FE server though it does and can provide another layer of security is not really necessary. If setup correctly the SBS is all that is needed. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:34 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type of security that does away with the need for the front end server? From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the appropriate port to your SBS Server. -- Stuart On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was afraid > it might take something like that to hide the production server from > the web. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Jan 9 16:41:42 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:41:42 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D2A39A6.15027.141327D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Also, the IIS on that FE/OWA server is frequently used to server up a public website as well as OWA. -- Stuart On 9 Jan 2011 at 23:04, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Jim > > That's how I have understood it as well. The scenario MS describes > with a separate FE/OWA server is for a larger scale setup to release > the main Exchange server(s) from the web access and mobile load. > > /gustav > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 09-01-2011 22:36 >>> > A FE server though it does and can provide another layer of security > is not really necessary. If setup correctly the SBS is all that is > needed. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty > Hammond Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:34 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business > Server 2003 and smartphones > > I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of > security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type > of security that does away with the need for the front end server? > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones > > If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you > don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the > appropriate port to your SBS Server. > > > -- > Stuart > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was > > afraid it might take something like that to hide the production > > server from the web. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 11:36:44 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:36:44 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! Message-ID: Hello all, Am I losing my mind or is Oracle performing a lobotomy on me? Back when the VM was called Sun VirtualBox, it effortlessly let you view all the Windows drives and folders therein. That was way back in Version 7 or perhaps even earlier, and it just naturally did it; I didn't have to do a thing. But now, running Oracle VM VirtualBox, and then explored the menus and icons, I seem to be trapped in this VM, with no way to view any files outside its initial footprint. Am I wrong, or has the software/hardware world reduced to Ellison vs. Jobs, the first round, and Gates quietly waiting for the final. I used to hate Gates for closing them, but compared to his opponents, they're leaving the gates wide open, perhaps to their detriment. So far as I can see, my best option is to nuke everything concerning Oracle and return to Sun VirtualBox and then I'm free to visit the whole computer rather than one narrow slice of it. Am I wrong? Is there a way to make Oracle Sun VM wake up and smell the coffee in the Windows? Perhaps I don't read enough any more.... I've cancelled most of my e-subscriptions to eWeek etc., all and any DVD-movie subscriptions, etc. etc. In my grey years, I have lost my concern for who wins this samurai battle, and I no longer care. I am so out of the loop (or just possibly into some new loop, expelled in the way Pluto was from the local List of Planets, and returned to Asteroid (freshman) status. I think I'll uninstall Oracle VirtualBox and return to the Sun version. I don't care whether I'm a few versions behind, so long as it works. I don't even care if Oracle pulls the Support plug, I have the docs downloaded anyway. So there, Larry! Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jan 10 13:51:05 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:51:05 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have been away from serious Oracle work for over 5 years now. The only thing I have done is to connect to databases... Oracle as a rule does not like working with other OSs. It likes its own server and that is what I tend to do with it...put it on its own beater-box...then just open ports 1521 to 1525. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:37 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! Hello all, Am I losing my mind or is Oracle performing a lobotomy on me? Back when the VM was called Sun VirtualBox, it effortlessly let you view all the Windows drives and folders therein. That was way back in Version 7 or perhaps even earlier, and it just naturally did it; I didn't have to do a thing. But now, running Oracle VM VirtualBox, and then explored the menus and icons, I seem to be trapped in this VM, with no way to view any files outside its initial footprint. Am I wrong, or has the software/hardware world reduced to Ellison vs. Jobs, the first round, and Gates quietly waiting for the final. I used to hate Gates for closing them, but compared to his opponents, they're leaving the gates wide open, perhaps to their detriment. So far as I can see, my best option is to nuke everything concerning Oracle and return to Sun VirtualBox and then I'm free to visit the whole computer rather than one narrow slice of it. Am I wrong? Is there a way to make Oracle Sun VM wake up and smell the coffee in the Windows? Perhaps I don't read enough any more.... I've cancelled most of my e-subscriptions to eWeek etc., all and any DVD-movie subscriptions, etc. etc. In my grey years, I have lost my concern for who wins this samurai battle, and I no longer care. I am so out of the loop (or just possibly into some new loop, expelled in the way Pluto was from the local List of Planets, and returned to Asteroid (freshman) status. I think I'll uninstall Oracle VirtualBox and return to the Sun version. I don't care whether I'm a few versions behind, so long as it works. I don't even care if Oracle pulls the Support plug, I have the docs downloaded anyway. So there, Larry! Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Mon Jan 10 14:00:28 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:00:28 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D2B655C.9020600@earthlink.net> AF> In my grey years, I have lost my concern for who wins >this samurai battle, and I no longer care. Hear, hear! PB ---- On 1/10/2011 11:36 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Hello all, > > Am I losing my mind or is Oracle performing a lobotomy on me? Back when the > VM was called Sun VirtualBox, it effortlessly let you view all the Windows > drives and folders therein. That was way back in Version 7 or perhaps even > earlier, and it just naturally did it; I didn't have to do a thing. But now, > running Oracle VM VirtualBox, and then explored the menus and icons, I seem > to be trapped in this VM, with no way to view any files outside its initial > footprint. > > Am I wrong, or has the software/hardware world reduced to Ellison vs. Jobs, > the first round, and Gates quietly waiting for the final. I used to hate > Gates for closing them, but compared to his opponents, they're leaving the > gates wide open, perhaps to their detriment. > > So far as I can see, my best option is to nuke everything concerning Oracle > and return to Sun VirtualBox and then I'm free to visit the whole computer > rather than one narrow slice of it. Am I wrong? Is there a way to make > Oracle Sun VM wake up and smell the coffee in the Windows? > > Perhaps I don't read enough any more.... I've cancelled most of my > e-subscriptions to eWeek etc., all and any DVD-movie subscriptions, etc. > etc. > In my grey years, I have lost my concern for who wins this samurai battle, > and I no longer care. I am so out of the loop (or just possibly into some > new loop, expelled in the way Pluto was from the local List of Planets, and > returned to Asteroid (freshman) status. I think I'll uninstall Oracle > VirtualBox and return to the Sun version. I don't care whether I'm a few > versions behind, so long as it works. I don't even care if Oracle pulls the > Support plug, I have the docs downloaded anyway. So there, Larry! > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jan 10 16:28:40 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:28:40 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sun VirtualBox vs. Oracle VirtualBox !@#argh! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D2B8818.44.4042772@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> You're mind is backed up over there...... Have you installed Guest Additions? Without it, you have always had to set up network shares to see host resources? -- Stuart On 10 Jan 2011 at 12:36, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Am I losing my mind or is Oracle performing a lobotomy on me? Back > when the VM was called Sun VirtualBox, it effortlessly let you view > all the Windows drives and folders therein. That was way back in > Version 7 or perhaps even earlier, and it just naturally did it; I > didn't have to do a thing. But now, running Oracle VM VirtualBox, and > then explored the menus and icons, I seem to be trapped in this VM, > with no way to view any files outside its initial footprint. > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jan 10 22:33:44 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:33:44 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed Message-ID: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in my Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go into some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook through the task manager. I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder other than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left pane and selecting Delete All. The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook opens, it opens to the Inbox with this bounced email selected, goes right into the loop and I can't do anything else with Outlook. It's well and truly hung. Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? TIA Rocky From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jan 10 23:09:33 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:09:33 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <4D2B8818.44.4042772@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4D2B8818.44.4042772@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 02:54:02 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:54:02 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed In-Reply-To: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Hi Rocky, I hate to say this when you are having problems, but.... I switched to online gmail in Sept 2004. Since then, I have phones, pc's, internet cafes, all with no problems. I also never backup my email, and I have currently over 40 thousand emails with 1 second response time when I search for any of them. Suffice it to say, I am a fan of cloud email, My wife is forced to use outlook and I have to say, I do not envy her. >From this site, *The Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. * Good Luck, Mark On 11 January 2011 04:33, wrote: > I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. > Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in my > Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go into > some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook through the > task manager. > > I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder other > than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left pane and > selecting Delete All. > > The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook > he Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, file > named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. opens, it opens to the Inbox with > this bounced email selected, goes > right into the loop and I can't do anything else with Outlook. It's > well and truly hung. > > Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? > > TIA > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jan 11 03:37:29 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:37:29 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Message-ID: Hi Jim As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09 >>> According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jan 11 07:45:38 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:45:38 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed In-Reply-To: References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Scanpst failed. But I got that bad boy out of there anyway. Gmail would be OK for some things but I like having my business mail go to my domain - more professional, I think. Could switch OT and personal there, I suppose. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:54 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Off Topic Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed Hi Rocky, I hate to say this when you are having problems, but.... I switched to online gmail in Sept 2004. Since then, I have phones, pc's, internet cafes, all with no problems. I also never backup my email, and I have currently over 40 thousand emails with 1 second response time when I search for any of them. Suffice it to say, I am a fan of cloud email, My wife is forced to use outlook and I have to say, I do not envy her. >From this site, *The Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. * Good Luck, Mark On 11 January 2011 04:33, wrote: > I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. > Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in my > Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go into > some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook through the > task manager. > > I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder other > than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left pane > and selecting Delete All. > > The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook > he Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, > file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. opens, it opens to the Inbox > with this bounced email selected, goes right into the loop and I can't > do anything else with Outlook. It's well and truly hung. > > Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? > > TIA > > Rocky > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rustykh at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 08:59:25 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 06:59:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Message-ID: <977220.29359.qm@web65414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Thanks everyone for the information. I think you've got me pointed in the right direction. Rusty From: Stuart McLachlan To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2011 4:41:42 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones Also, the IIS on that FE/OWA server is frequently used to server up a public website as well as OWA. -- Stuart On 9 Jan 2011 at 23:04, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Jim > > That's how I have understood it as well. The scenario MS describes > with a separate FE/OWA server is for a larger scale setup to release > the main Exchange server(s) from the web access and mobile load. > > /gustav > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 09-01-2011 22:36 >>> > A FE server though it does and can provide another layer of security > is not really necessary. If setup correctly the SBS is all that is > needed. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty > Hammond Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:34 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business > Server 2003 and smartphones > > I thought the point of a front end server was to add another layer of > security between the web and the SBS server. Is there some other type > of security that does away with the need for the front end server? > > > > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:19:35 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Small Business Server 2003 and smartphones > > If you are running IIS and Exchange Server on the SBS server, you > don't need a separate front end server, you just forward the > appropriate port to your SBS Server. > > > -- > Stuart > > On 8 Jan 2011 at 19:48, Rusty Hammond wrote: > > > Thanks. The one article talks about a front end server. I was > > afraid it might take something like that to hide the production > > server from the web. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 10:12:51 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:12:51 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any idea what this data flow was for. I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device where every byte transferred cost money. I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more established and Android is cleaning up. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Jim As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09 >>> According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From df.waters at comcast.net Tue Jan 11 10:18:44 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:18:44 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Do the other smart phones also send data regularly? If so, how much? I've been thinking of getting a 1st smart phone before too long. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:13 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Gustav: Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any idea what this data flow was for. I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device where every byte transferred cost money. I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more established and Android is cleaning up. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Jim As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09 >>> According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Tue Jan 11 11:12:12 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:12:12 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> Are Blackberry users still stuck with Outlook? PB On 1/11/2011 10:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Gustav: > > Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue > that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At > the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any > idea what this data flow was for. > > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, > totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device > where every byte transferred cost money. > > I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just > what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more > established and Android is cleaning up. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems > > Hi Jim > > As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some > phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. > It should be relatively easy to track down. > > /gustav > > >>>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09>>> > According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows > cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 > > This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm > foot hold in the growing cell phone market. > > The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jan 11 11:48:05 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:48:05 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold Message-ID: Hi all If you are serious about Windows Phone 7, this 1000+ page monster book from Microsoft is only a 13 MB download + 5 MB for code samples: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2010/10/28/free-ebook-programming-windows-phone-7-by-charles-petzold.aspx Note this: To use this book properly you'll need to download and install the Windows Phone Developer Tools, which includes Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone, XNA Game Studio 4.0, and an on-screen Windows Phone Emulator to test your programs in the absence of an actual device. Get the latest information and downloads at http://developer.windowsphone.com. You can install these tools on top of Visual Studio 2010, in effect enhancing Visual Studio 2010 for phone development. That's the configuration I used. Although you can do quite a bit with the phone emulator, at some point you'll want to deploy your programs to an actual Windows Phone 7 device. You can register as a phone developer at http://developer.windowsphone.com and then have the ability to unlock your phone so you can deploy your programs from Visual Studio. /gustav From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 11 14:25:28 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:25:28 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4D2CBCB8.12449.8B99DE1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Every byte still costs money in a lot of parts of the world on a PC. Here in PNG it still costs about 7c US per MB for everything we download. Yep those "free" CD sized downloads cost me about $40 a time. :-( -- Stuart On 11 Jan 2011 at 8:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: ... > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, > totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone > device where every byte transferred cost money. > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 11 14:28:51 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:28:51 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> References: , <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com>, <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4D2CBD83.12343.8BCB641@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> No, Blackberry uses the IMAP protocol. The mail application on the Blackberry is a RIM product and you can use any mail client you like on your PC. -- Stuart On 11 Jan 2011 at 11:12, Peter Brawley wrote: > Are Blackberry users still stuck with Outlook? > > PB > > On 1/11/2011 10:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Hi Gustav: > > > > Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration > > issue that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a > > problem. At the time of the news release no one, at least in or > > related to press had any idea what this data flow was for. > > > > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on > > PC, totally automated except that does not really work on a cell > > phone device where every byte transferred cost money. > > > > I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and > > just what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just > > getting more established and Android is cleaning up. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav > > Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM To: > > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft > > Windows 7 cell phones are having problems > > > > Hi Jim > > > > As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted > > by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or > > misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. > > > > /gustav > > > > > >>>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09>>> > > According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the > > windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some > > problems. > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 > > > > This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a > > firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. > > > > The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 14:30:10 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:30:10 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <8825DEEDC74E4D8CB66093B5C18E6917@creativesystemdesigns.com> Maybe they all do it but the Windows Smartphone seemed, in some circumstances, to be sending a lot of data...over a GB a month, according to the posted article. Recently acquired a Samsung Galaxy S Smartphone with Android and I am really liking it. Just installed the following app: http://www.doubletwist.com/airsync/ (Not so much into music and pictures but maybe it will transfer code snippets as well.) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:19 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Do the other smart phones also send data regularly? If so, how much? I've been thinking of getting a 1st smart phone before too long. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:13 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Gustav: Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any idea what this data flow was for. I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device where every byte transferred cost money. I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more established and Android is cleaning up. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Hi Jim As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. It should be relatively easy to track down. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09 >>> According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm foot hold in the growing cell phone market. The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 14:31:25 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:31:25 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4D2C8F6C.4000206@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4D823FDB96BF491493FCEA13B27902ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> I have no idea... I just about got one but there was this super deal just before Christmas... 8-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:12 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Are Blackberry users still stuck with Outlook? PB On 1/11/2011 10:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Gustav: > > Right now nobody knows. If it is a bad design or some configuration issue > that is easily made but not understood by the users, that is a problem. At > the time of the news release no one, at least in or related to press had any > idea what this data flow was for. > > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, > totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone device > where every byte transferred cost money. > > I suspect it is minor issue but the amount of bad press is major and just > what Microsoft doesn't need... especially as iPhone is just getting more > established and Android is cleaning up. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:37 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems > > Hi Jim > > As the article mentions "some" not "all", the extra data transmitted by some > phones is probably due to some misconfiguration or misbehaviour of a kind. > It should be relatively easy to track down. > > /gustav > > >>>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 06:09>>> > According to an email sent to me this evening, it appears that the windows > cell phone operating system is causing and having some problems. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 > > This might be the final death knell to MS's aspirations of getting a firm > foot hold in the growing cell phone market. > > The question is whether this is a system bug or a design feature... > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 14:32:38 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:32:38 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17D88F9919444059815BDF7B3B35CEED@creativesystemdesigns.com> So how is your development coming along? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com; dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold Hi all If you are serious about Windows Phone 7, this 1000+ page monster book from Microsoft is only a 13 MB download + 5 MB for code samples: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2010/10/28/free-ebook-progra mming-windows-phone-7-by-charles-petzold.aspx Note this: To use this book properly you'll need to download and install the Windows Phone Developer Tools, which includes Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone, XNA Game Studio 4.0, and an on-screen Windows Phone Emulator to test your programs in the absence of an actual device. Get the latest information and downloads at http://developer.windowsphone.com. You can install these tools on top of Visual Studio 2010, in effect enhancing Visual Studio 2010 for phone development. That's the configuration I used. Although you can do quite a bit with the phone emulator, at some point you'll want to deploy your programs to an actual Windows Phone 7 device. You can register as a phone developer at http://developer.windowsphone.com and then have the ability to unlock your phone so you can deploy your programs from Visual Studio. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 14:49:39 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:49:39 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems In-Reply-To: <4D2CBCB8.12449.8B99DE1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <1B611888072C4B0C87AC3EDBC927103B@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4D2CBCB8.12449.8B99DE1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <35B8063DC21842E19E36823461D56BFC@creativesystemdesigns.com> Wow... how did you get into programming? I guess the sneaker-net is still alive and well in your locality. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Windows 7 cell phones are having problems Every byte still costs money in a lot of parts of the world on a PC. Here in PNG it still costs about 7c US per MB for everything we download. Yep those "free" CD sized downloads cost me about $40 a time. :-( -- Stuart On 11 Jan 2011 at 8:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: ... > I would suspect on going updates as Microsoft has always done, on PC, > totally automated except that does not really work on a cell phone > device where every byte transferred cost money. > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 15:32:11 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:32:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhone database app? Message-ID: I don't have an iPhone so I couldn't help a friend who tried an app built atop SQLite, and he hated it. According to him, all you can do is view a single row at a time! He wants a list of records. Anyone got a suggestion for an app to replace that one? Access for iPhone ? TIA, Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 11 16:24:05 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:24:05 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhone database app? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have no personal knowledge but what I have heard is, if you are a freelancer and do not have signed agreements with Apple, you have to crack-it to get greater access. I could ask around if you are interested? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:32 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhone database app? I don't have an iPhone so I couldn't help a friend who tried an app built atop SQLite, and he hated it. According to him, all you can do is view a single row at a time! He wants a list of records. Anyone got a suggestion for an app to replace that one? Access for iPhone ? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 16:29:25 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:29:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhone database app? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't bother, unless someone else is interested. I don't have an iPhone and don't see one in my future either. Arthur On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > I have no personal knowledge but what I have heard is, if you are a > freelancer and do not have signed agreements with Apple, you have to > crack-it to get greater access. I could ask around if you are interested? > > Jim > From marklbreen at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 03:50:17 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:50:17 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed In-Reply-To: References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Hi Rocky, Google have a free "Gmail for Domains" service. They call it Google Apps. I have set up over 100 of these accounts for friends and neighbours in the last couple of years. You create an account with google apps (standard editionis free - you do not need the premium edition) Google provide you with some unique data that you then upload to your domain registrat (Go Daddy or whomever you use) Google verify you own the account. You create users in google for your domain eg, rocky.smolin at bchacc.com, or max.smolin at bchacc.com Optional step, You assign nicknames to the users, eg, Rocky, info, sales, support, papa, themainman then you go back to Go Daddy and change your MX records to point to google servers. No more backup, no more spam, no more email virus's, no more deleting files, no more slow searching, all email will come from your domain as if you had an expensive exchange server and it is all free. Also, you have shared calendars and groups and a whole lot more. You can leave your existing website where it is, no need to change that, but in the future, you have the option of asking google to host the site also, and then you have free hosting also. As I mentioned, if you have any questions, just ask. HTH Mark On 11 January 2011 13:45, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Scanpst failed. But I got that bad boy out of there anyway. Gmail would > be > OK for some things but I like having my business mail go to my domain - > more > professional, I think. Could switch OT and personal there, I suppose. > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:54 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Off Topic > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed > > Hi Rocky, > > I hate to say this when you are having problems, but.... > > I switched to online gmail in Sept 2004. > > Since then, I have phones, pc's, internet cafes, all with no problems. > > I also never backup my email, and I have currently over 40 thousand emails > with 1 second response time when I search for any of them. > > Suffice it to say, I am a fan of cloud email, > > My wife is forced to use outlook and I have to say, I do not envy her. > > From this site, > > *The Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, file > named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. * > > Good Luck, > > Mark > > > > > On 11 January 2011 04:33, wrote: > > > I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. > > Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in my > > Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go into > > some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook through the > > task manager. > > > > I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder other > > than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left pane > > and selecting Delete All. > > > > The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook > > he Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, > > file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. opens, it opens to the Inbox > > with this bounced email selected, goes right into the loop and I can't > > do anything else with Outlook. It's well and truly hung. > > > > Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 07:29:16 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:29:16 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Any problems with Google apps? I didn't know about the email -- that's kind of cool. Susan H. > Hi Rocky, > > Google have a free "Gmail for Domains" service. They call it Google Apps. > > I have set up over 100 of these accounts for friends and neighbours in the > last couple of years. > > You create an account with google apps (standard > editionis free > - you do not need the premium edition) > > > Google provide you with some unique data that you then upload to your > domain > registrat (Go Daddy or whomever you use) > Google verify you own the account. > You create users in google for your domain eg, rocky.smolin at bchacc.com, or > max.smolin at bchacc.com > Optional step, You assign nicknames to the users, eg, Rocky, info, sales, > support, papa, themainman > then you go back to Go Daddy and change your MX records to point to google > servers. > > No more backup, no more spam, no more email virus's, no more deleting > files, > no more slow searching, > > all email will come from your domain as if you had an expensive exchange > server and it is all free. > > Also, you have shared calendars and groups and a whole lot more. > > You can leave your existing website where it is, no need to change that, > but > in the future, you have the option of asking google to host the site also, > and then you have free hosting also. > > As I mentioned, if you have any questions, just ask. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Jan 12 11:04:33 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:04:33 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed In-Reply-To: References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Looks interesting. But I'm a slow adopter. When things are working I tend to just leave them alone. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:50 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed Hi Rocky, Google have a free "Gmail for Domains" service. They call it Google Apps. I have set up over 100 of these accounts for friends and neighbours in the last couple of years. You create an account with google apps (standard editionis free - you do not need the premium edition) Google provide you with some unique data that you then upload to your domain registrat (Go Daddy or whomever you use) Google verify you own the account. You create users in google for your domain eg, rocky.smolin at bchacc.com, or max.smolin at bchacc.com Optional step, You assign nicknames to the users, eg, Rocky, info, sales, support, papa, themainman then you go back to Go Daddy and change your MX records to point to google servers. No more backup, no more spam, no more email virus's, no more deleting files, no more slow searching, all email will come from your domain as if you had an expensive exchange server and it is all free. Also, you have shared calendars and groups and a whole lot more. You can leave your existing website where it is, no need to change that, but in the future, you have the option of asking google to host the site also, and then you have free hosting also. As I mentioned, if you have any questions, just ask. HTH Mark On 11 January 2011 13:45, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Scanpst failed. But I got that bad boy out of there anyway. Gmail > would be OK for some things but I like having my business mail go to > my domain - more > professional, I think. Could switch OT and personal there, I suppose. > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:54 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Cc: Off Topic > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My Outlook is Screwed > > Hi Rocky, > > I hate to say this when you are having problems, but.... > > I switched to online gmail in Sept 2004. > > Since then, I have phones, pc's, internet cafes, all with no problems. > > I also never backup my email, and I have currently over 40 thousand > emails with 1 second response time when I search for any of them. > > Suffice it to say, I am a fan of cloud email, > > My wife is forced to use outlook and I have to say, I do not envy her. > > From this > site, > > *The Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, > file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install the > Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in 'C:\Program > Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. * > > Good Luck, > > Mark > > > > > On 11 January 2011 04:33, wrote: > > > I sent a couple of emails with attachments earlier and they bounced. > > Don't know why because I was unable to open them. They ended up in > > my Junk mail folder and every time I clicked on it, Outlook would go > > into some kind of endless loop and I had to shut down Outlook > > through the task manager. > > > > I got rid of them by firing up Outlook which opened to a folder > > other than the Junk Mail folderright clicking the folder on the left > > pane and selecting Delete All. > > > > The latest one to bounce, though, is in the Inbox. And when Outlook > > he Microsoft Inbox Repair Tool is a single-file executable program, > > file named Scanpst.exe. By default, Microsoft Outlook will install > > the Scanpst.exe file within your Program Files folder, in > > 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033'. opens, it opens > > to the Inbox with this bounced email selected, goes right into the > > loop and I can't do anything else with Outlook. It's well and truly hung. > > > > Is there a way to purge an email from the Inbox outside of Outlook? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jan 12 11:42:31 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:42:31 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold Message-ID: Hi Jim Not that well, because so much else eats the time, and I haven't yet got my phone. The emulator is fine but I imagine the real fun starts with a real phone. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-01-2011 21:32 >>> So how is your development coming along? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com; dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ebook: Programming Windows Phone 7, by Charles Petzold Hi all If you are serious about Windows Phone 7, this 1000+ page monster book from Microsoft is only a 13 MB download + 5 MB for code samples: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2010/10/28/free-ebook-programming-windows-phone-7-by-charles-petzold.aspx Note this: To use this book properly you'll need to download and install the Windows Phone Developer Tools, which includes Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone, XNA Game Studio 4.0, and an on-screen Windows Phone Emulator to test your programs in the absence of an actual device. Get the latest information and downloads at http://developer.windowsphone.com. You can install these tools on top of Visual Studio 2010, in effect enhancing Visual Studio 2010 for phone development. That's the configuration I used. Although you can do quite a bit with the phone emulator, at some point you'll want to deploy your programs to an actual Windows Phone 7 device. You can register as a phone developer at http://developer.windowsphone.com and then have the ability to unlock your phone so you can deploy your programs from Visual Studio. /gustav From john at winhaven.net Fri Jan 14 11:36:35 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:36:35 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Why Is Gorilla Glass So Strong? Message-ID: <00bd01cbb411$9876b030$c9641090$@winhaven.net> I found this interesting: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375657,00.asp From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Jan 16 13:28:09 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:28:09 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer Message-ID: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> Hi Guys, Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 Pro, and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of years later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on Win XP. This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their family. It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do homework and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the first time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help or call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that effect. I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. It displayed this message: "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to start, it displayed this message: "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \system32\hal.dll Please re-install a copy of the above file." I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up being F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to come before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked like a DOS screen with the following message: "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. C:>" and a blinking cursor There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. So, I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? of course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD and rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, and 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section of the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of the screen, and it says "01." When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard drive I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I think maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating system files are. I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer altogether? I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the message that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. Thanks for any ideas, T From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Jan 16 13:55:51 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:55:51 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer In-Reply-To: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> Me again, Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been listed in any of the previous visits to this console. I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r - we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. T Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot > setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 > Pro, and was updated with the second operating system added on a > couple of years later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game > that wouldn't play on Win XP. > > This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their > family. It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting > together their library and study area in their house. The girls often > use it to do homework and to visit online with their friends. Three > days ago, I saw it had the awful blue screen of almost death ? the one > that says if this is the first time you've seen this screen, reboot, > otherwise go get professional help or call the undertaker because your > computer is dead ? or something to that effect. > > I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and > stopped. It displayed this message: > > "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or > corrupt: system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys > You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using > the original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start > repair." > > I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to > start, it displayed this message: > > "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or > corrupt: > \system32\hal.dll > Please re-install a copy of the above file." > > I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by > guess and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it > ended up being F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and > I needed D: to come before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup > CD-ROM and booted. > > Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to > the first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what > looked like a DOS screen with the following message: > > "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. > The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. > Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. > C:>" and a blinking cursor > > There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar > with this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some > recovery and repair functions had happened in the background and it > was time to EXIT. So, I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine > began trying to restart ? of course, I still had the CD in, so we went > back around. I removed the CD and rebooted, with precisely the same > results as before. > > I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, > and 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same > section of the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the > far right of the screen, and it says "01." > > When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is > fine, but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort > of "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing > hard drive I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little > squishy peep. I think maybe the drive has a really bad spot right > where some critical operating system files are. > > I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I > would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any > good advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer > altogether? > > I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the > message that the partition was too full or sick or something and would > have to be formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my > kids do not have their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did > not move ahead. > > Thanks for any ideas, > > T > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From garykjos at gmail.com Sun Jan 16 16:24:16 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:24:16 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer In-Reply-To: <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> Message-ID: I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your best bets for advice on this one. Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix the disk problems if there are any. GK On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Me again, > Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery > Console. ?Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. > ?Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery > Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been > listed in any of the previous visits to this console. > I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r - > we'll see how that goes. ?Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. > T > > Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 Pro, >> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of years >> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on Win >> XP. >> >> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their family. >> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do homework >> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the first >> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help or >> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >> effect. >> >> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. It >> displayed this message: >> >> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: >> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >> >> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >> start, it displayed this message: >> >> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: >> \system32\hal.dll >> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >> >> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess >> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up being >> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to come >> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >> >> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked like a >> DOS screen with the following message: >> >> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >> C:>" and a blinking cursor >> >> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. So, >> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? of >> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD and >> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >> >> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, and >> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section of >> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of the >> screen, and it says "01." >> >> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard drive >> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I think >> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >> system files are. >> >> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >> altogether? >> >> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the message >> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >> >> Thanks for any ideas, >> >> T >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 16 18:05:29 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:05:29 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer In-Reply-To: References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> Message-ID: I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like you hard drive is failing. I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM and XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, image the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean up and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools it will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your best bets for advice on this one. Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix the disk problems if there are any. GK On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Me again, > Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery > Console. ?Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. > ?Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery > Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been > listed in any of the previous visits to this console. > I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r - > we'll see how that goes. ?Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. > T > > Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 Pro, >> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of years >> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on Win >> XP. >> >> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their family. >> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do homework >> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the first >> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help or >> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >> effect. >> >> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. It >> displayed this message: >> >> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: >> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >> >> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >> start, it displayed this message: >> >> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: >> \system32\hal.dll >> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >> >> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess >> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up being >> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to come >> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >> >> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked like a >> DOS screen with the following message: >> >> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >> C:>" and a blinking cursor >> >> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. So, >> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? of >> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD and >> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >> >> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, and >> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section of >> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of the >> screen, and it says "01." >> >> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard drive >> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I think >> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >> system files are. >> >> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >> altogether? >> >> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the message >> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >> >> Thanks for any ideas, >> >> T >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jan 16 21:56:50 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:56:50 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file Message-ID: Dear Lists: I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it for that a lot). Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? TIA Rocky From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:09:52 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:09:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Jim, Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM and > XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With > these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the > drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a > new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean up > and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools it > will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>> > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>> > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >>> effect. >>> >>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> \system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>> > come > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>> > and > >>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>> > the > >>> screen, and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>> > drive > >>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>> altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:31:02 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:31:02 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D3460B6.6070304@torchlake.com> Rocky, Audacity would have been my suggestion. Given the size of the file, maybe the slowness isn't surprising. I use Switch from NCHS to convert wma files to mp3. It offers an edit feature, using WavePad. WavePad has a free trial period, then it costs. Right now the price is about $80. But, the free trial period might be long enough to get the job done. It's a thought. I'll be watching to see what others have to say. T Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to break it > up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow (takes about 8 > minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this (it's great BTW to > transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it for that a lot). > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > TIA > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jan 17 09:49:39 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:49:39 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com> <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Just re-image on a new hard drive and you will be good to go another 10 years. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:10 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Jim, Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM and > XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With > these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the > drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a > new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean up > and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools it > will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>> setup - Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>> > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>> awful blue screen of almost death - the one that says if this is the >>> > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead - or something to that >>> effect. >>> >>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> \system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence - by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>> > come > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart - >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>> > and > >>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>> > the > >>> screen, and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>> > drive > >>> I worked on last year - a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>> advice - in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>> altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:44:37 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:44:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net> <960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> Message-ID: <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> It looks like the template for a web page or site that used to come with PowerPoint. I just looked in my current version and did not find that template, but I remember using it and demonstrating it in a PowerPoint class several years ago. I'll do a little more looking. T Susan Harkins wrote: > > > > > >> I can't get at it. >> >> >> https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA >> >> 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea >> >> pps.li >> >> The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational >> toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that >> adds this >> -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone >> familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle >> with >> icons added to the master slide? >> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 09:54:05 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:54:05 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <9D7511E6CDF14D5BB2420B64F6B3FF73@salvationomc4p> Thanks Tina -- don't go to any trouble. Just knowing where it comes from answers my question! Thank you! Susan H. > It looks like the template for a web page or site that used to come with > PowerPoint. I just looked in my current version and did not find that > template, but I remember using it and demonstrating it in a PowerPoint > class several years ago. I'll do a little more looking. > T > > Susan Harkins wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> I can't get at it. >>> >>> >>> https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA >>> 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea >>> pps.li >>> >>> The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational >>> toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds >>> this >>> -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is anyone >>> familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle >>> with >>> icons added to the master slide? >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:58:45 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question In-Reply-To: <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB4 23B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4D346735.4060604@torchlake.com> Aha! I'm working in Office 2003, so you may have to find the equivalents in 2007 or 2010. On the Drawing Toolbar, the Autoshapes collection includes Action Buttons. When you place an Action Button on a slide, the Action Settings dialog box pops up. In there, you specify what slide to link to, what happens with a mouse over, etc. There is also a wizard for selecting what kind of presentation you are going to make - one selection being a web presentation. If you then select to preview your presentation on the web, your browser opens with your presentation loaded and a navigation bar at the left. I hope this helps, T Tina Norris Fields wrote: > It looks like the template for a web page or site that used to come > with PowerPoint. I just looked in my current version and did not find > that template, but I remember using it and demonstrating it in a > PowerPoint class several years ago. I'll do a little more looking. > T > > Susan Harkins wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> I can't get at it. >>> >>> >>> https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA >>> >>> 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea >>> >>> pps.li >>> >>> The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational >>> toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that >>> adds this >>> -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is >>> anyone >>> familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle >>> with >>> icons added to the master slide? >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 09:59:43 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:59:43 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D3346C9.2050506@torchlake.com> <4D334D47.7000108@torchlake.com><4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4D34676F.2080401@torchlake.com> Right-on! Thanks, Jim. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Just re-image on a new hard drive and you will be good to go another 10 > years. ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:10 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now > > Jim, > Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. > Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk > errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I > looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on > the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After > that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the > existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, > so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the > installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes > and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I > checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on > theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this > morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, > I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, > and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - > since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer > is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. > Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - > it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one > place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very > young. > Best regards, > T > Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like >> > you > >> hard drive is failing. >> >> I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM >> > and > >> XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With >> these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. >> >> OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the >> drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, >> > image > >> the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a >> new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean >> > up > >> and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. >> >> It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools >> > it > >> will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer >> > time. > >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer >> >> I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your >> best bets for advice on this one. >> >> Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you >> could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix >> the disk problems if there are any. >> >> GK >> >> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields >> wrote: >> >> >>> Me again, >>> Did a little searching and found some information about using the >>> > Recovery > >>> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about >>> > 50%. > >>> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >>> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >>> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >>> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk >>> > /r > >>> >>> >> - >> >> >>> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys >>> > have. > >>> T >>> >>> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> >>>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>>> setup - Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>>> >>>> >> Pro, >> >> >>>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>>> >>>> >> years >> >> >>>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>>> >>>> >> Win >> >> >>>> XP. >>>> >>>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>>> >>>> >> family. >> >> >>>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>>> >>>> >> homework >> >> >>>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>>> awful blue screen of almost death - the one that says if this is the >>>> >>>> >> first >> >> >>>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>>> >>>> >> or >> >> >>>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead - or something to that >>>> effect. >>>> >>>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>>> >>>> >> It >> >> >>>> displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>>> >>>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>>> start, it displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> \system32\hal.dll >>>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>>> >>>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence - by >>>> > guess > >>>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>>> >>>> >> being >> >> >>>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>>> >>>> >> come >> >> >>>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>>> >>>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>>> >>>> >> like a >> >> >>>> DOS screen with the following message: >>>> >>>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>>> >>>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar >>>> > with > >>>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>>> >>>> >> So, >> >> >>>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart - >>>> >>>> >> of >> >> >>>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>>> >>>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same >>>> > section > >>>> >>>> >> of >> >> >>>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>>> >>>> >> the >> >> >>>> screen, and it says "01." >>>> >>>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is >>>> > fine, > >>>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>>> >>>> >> drive >> >> >>>> I worked on last year - a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>>> >>>> >> think >> >> >>>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical >>>> > operating > >>>> system files are. >>>> >>>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>>> advice - in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>>> altogether? >>>> >>>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>>> >>>> >> message >> >> >>>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to >>>> > be > >>>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not >>>> > have > >>>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any ideas, >>>> >>>> T >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 10:19:51 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:19:51 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question References: <002301cbab8a$8dd53d70$a97fb850$@winhaven.net><960BB2CCBBA14FF28DBB423B566AF465@salvationomc4p> <4D3463E5.8090405@torchlake.com> <4D346735.4060604@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Thanks Tina -- this is great information! Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Norris Fields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] PowerPoint question > Aha! I'm working in Office 2003, so you may have to find the equivalents > in 2007 or 2010. On the Drawing Toolbar, the Autoshapes collection > includes Action Buttons. When you place an Action Button on a slide, the > Action Settings dialog box pops up. In there, you specify what slide to > link to, what happens with a mouse over, etc. > There is also a wizard for selecting what kind of presentation you are > going to make - one selection being a web presentation. If you then > select to preview your presentation on the web, your browser opens with > your presentation loaded and a navigation bar at the left. > I hope this helps, > T > > > Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> It looks like the template for a web page or site that used to come with >> PowerPoint. I just looked in my current version and did not find that >> template, but I remember using it and demonstrating it in a PowerPoint >> class several years ago. I'll do a little more looking. >> T >> >> Susan Harkins wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I can't get at it. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://cid-801b6337b938ea5b.office.live.com/fullscreen?resid=801B6337B938EA >>>> 5B!605&filename=The%20Presentation%20Cookbook.ppsx&wx=p&wa=p&wv=s&wc=officea >>>> pps.li >>>> >>>> The above link is to a presentation that contains a custom navigational >>>> toolbar at the bottom. I'm not aware of any built-in feature that adds >>>> this >>>> -- it looks to be a rectangle with some icons that have links. Is >>>> anyone >>>> familiar with this technique -- is that what it is, just a rectangle >>>> with >>>> icons added to the master slide? >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Mon Jan 17 10:25:57 2011 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:25:57 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Tina, you wrote: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you that backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush current stresses the electronic components. Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris Fields Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Jim, Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM and > XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With > these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the > drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a > new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean up > and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools it > will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>> > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>> > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >>> effect. >>> >>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> \system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>> > come > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>> > and > >>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>> > the > >>> screen, and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>> > drive > >>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>> altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to be >>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Mon Jan 17 10:28:24 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:28:24 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: I read an article somewhere once that said if your hard drive makes it past 6 months, the chances are it'll last more than 6 years. Mind you, it did also go on to say that if it failed, a "gentle" nudge against the hard brick wall might be enough to get it going again long enough to recover the data. I haven't tried that myself though... But only due to lack of opportunity :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: 17 January 2011 16:26 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Tina, you wrote: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you that backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush current stresses the electronic components. Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris Fields Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Jim, Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound > like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB > RAM and > XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. > With these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save > the drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is > recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, > install a new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition > Master to clean up > and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the > tools it > will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the >> Recovery Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they >> had not been listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running >> chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual >>> boot setup - Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a >>> Win 2000 >>> > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple >>> of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't >>> play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together >>> their library and study area in their house. The girls often use it >>> to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had >>> the awful blue screen of almost death - the one that says if this is >>> the >>> > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional >>> help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead - or something to >>> that effect. >>> >>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using >>> the original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> \system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence - by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended >>> up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: >>> to >>> > come > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to >>> the first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what >>> looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery >>> and repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to >>> restart - >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the >>> CD >>> > and > >>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, >>> 4, >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far >>> right of >>> > the > >>> screen, and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing >>> hard >>> > drive > >>> I worked on last year - a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. >>> I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, >>> I would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any >>> good advice - in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new >>> computer altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have >>> to be >>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From john at winhaven.net Mon Jan 17 14:00:42 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:00:42 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <01b601cbb681$38ef14a0$aacd3de0$@winhaven.net> That works sometimes ;-) I've been going through all my old parts and testing them as I can. None of the IDE hard drives I've tested with Spin Rite have passed. I guess having old hard drivers in the storage cabinet is a waste of space. I've also had quite a few 6-7 PCs come this past year with failing hard drives. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough I read an article somewhere once that said if your hard drive makes it past 6 months, the chances are it'll last more than 6 years. Mind you, it did also go on to say that if it failed, a "gentle" nudge against the hard brick wall might be enough to get it going again long enough to recover the data. I haven't tried that myself though... But only due to lack of opportunity :-) From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 15:46:54 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:46:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D34B8CE.60605@torchlake.com> Helmut, Sie haben Recht! Did I say that correctly? T Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Tina, > you wrote: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots > of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - > and most of its users are very young. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you that > backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give > you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes > without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but > you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after > minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since > more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance > might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to > hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush > current stresses the electronic components. > > Helmut > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris > Fields > Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 > An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now > > > Jim, > Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. > Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk > errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I > looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on > the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After > that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the > existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, > so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the > installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes > and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I > checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on > theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this > morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, > I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, > and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - > since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer > is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. > Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - > it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one > place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very > young. > Best regards, > T > Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like >> > you > >> hard drive is failing. >> >> I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM >> > and > >> XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With >> these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. >> >> OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the >> drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, >> > image > >> the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a >> new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean >> > up > >> and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. >> >> It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools >> > it > >> will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer >> > time. > >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer >> >> I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your >> best bets for advice on this one. >> >> Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you >> could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix >> the disk problems if there are any. >> >> GK >> >> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields >> wrote: >> >> >>> Me again, >>> Did a little searching and found some information about using the >>> > Recovery > >>> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about >>> > 50%. > >>> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >>> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >>> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >>> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk >>> > /r > >> - >> >> >>> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys >>> > have. > >>> T >>> >>> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> >>>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>>> >>>> >> Pro, >> >> >>>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>>> >>>> >> years >> >> >>>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>>> >>>> >> Win >> >> >>>> XP. >>>> >>>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>>> >>>> >> family. >> >> >>>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>>> >>>> >> homework >> >> >>>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>>> >>>> >> first >> >> >>>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>>> >>>> >> or >> >> >>>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >>>> effect. >>>> >>>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>>> >>>> >> It >> >> >>>> displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>>> >>>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>>> start, it displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> \system32\hal.dll >>>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>>> >>>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by >>>> > guess > >>>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>>> >>>> >> being >> >> >>>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>>> >>>> >> come >> >> >>>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>>> >>>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>>> >>>> >> like a >> >> >>>> DOS screen with the following message: >>>> >>>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>>> >>>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar >>>> > with > >>>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>>> >>>> >> So, >> >> >>>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? >>>> >>>> >> of >> >> >>>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>>> >>>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same >>>> > section > >> of >> >> >>>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>>> >>>> >> the >> >> >>>> screen, and it says "01." >>>> >>>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is >>>> > fine, > >>>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>>> >>>> >> drive >> >> >>>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>>> >>>> >> think >> >> >>>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical >>>> > operating > >>>> system files are. >>>> >>>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>>> altogether? >>>> >>>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>>> >>>> >> message >> >> >>>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to >>>> > be > >>>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not >>>> > have > >>>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any ideas, >>>> >>>> T >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jan 17 15:55:19 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:55:19 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: <4D345BC0.4080105@torchlake.com>, , Message-ID: <4D34BAC7.4226.1446415D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Another trick that I've employed in the past is to stick the drive in a deep freeze. I did that successfully and retrieved data a few times - but it generally only worked for a quarter of an hour or so until ithe drive heated back. That was back in the days of much smaller drives when you didn't need it to keep running for hours to copy everything of it. -- Stuart On 17 Jan 2011 at 17:28, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > I read an article somewhere once that said if your hard drive makes it > past 6 months, the chances are it'll last more than 6 years. Mind you, > it did also go on to say that if it failed, a "gentle" nudge against > the hard brick wall might be enough to get it going again long enough > to recover the data. > > I haven't tried that myself though... But only due to lack of > opportunity :-) > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut > Kotsch Sent: 17 January 2011 16:26 To: Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - > solved for now > > Tina, > you wrote: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that > gets lots of use and has been moved from one place to another many > times in its life - and most of its users are very young. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell > you that backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No > manufacturer will give you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run > even more than 10 minutes without loosing data. They might advertise > an average MTBF of 5 years but you could have bought the one in > thousands that is bad and dies after minutes, a day or a year. I have > hard drives running 24/7 365 days since more than 10 years without any > problems. One reason for this performance might be that they are > hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to hard drives because > the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush current stresses > the electronic components. > > Helmut > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina > Norris Fields Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 An: Discussion > of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to > revive a computer - solved for now > > > Jim, > Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. > Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk > errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I > looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r > on the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. > After that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair > the existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last > night, so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by > the installation program as not being able to be registered - I made > notes and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it > needed - I checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate > it on theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 > this morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This > morning, I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet > connection, and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still > need to get SP3 - since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at > least the computer is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now > about backing it up. Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the > hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots of use and > has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - and > most of its users are very young. Best regards, T Jim Lawrence wrote: > > I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound > > like you > hard drive is failing. > > I was looking at a discount > place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB > RAM and > XP home...no idea > what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. > With these sorts > of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. > > OTOH, > Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save > the > drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is > > recovered, image > the drive with a bootable CD with something like > DriveImage XML, > install a new drive then re-image it back and use > EASEUS Partition > Master to clean up > and re-partition the new > drive. Reboot and you're done. > > It is a little more complex than > that of course but if you have the > tools it > will take about an > hours worth of your time but a couple days computer time. > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware > and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a > computer > > I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim > are your > best bets for advice on this one. > > Good luck, sounds > like you have done the right stuff so far. If you > could run SPinrite > from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix > the disk > problems if there are any. > > GK > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, > Tina Norris Fields > wrote: > >> Me again, > >> Did a little searching and found some information about using the > Recovery >> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got > stuck at about 50%. >> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time > when I got to the >> Recovery Console, the two installations of > Windows were listed - they >> had not been listed in any of the > previous visits to this console. >> I logged in to the first Windows > installation and am now running >> chkdsk /r >> > - > >> we'll see how > that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys have. >> T >> > >> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Maybe you can > help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual >>> boot setup - > Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a >>> Win 2000 >>> > > Pro, > >>> and was updated with the second operating system added on > a couple >>> of >>> > years > >>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept > because of a game that wouldn't >>> play on >>> > Win > >>> XP. >>> > >>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their > >>> > family. > >>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish > putting together >>> their library and study area in their house. The > girls often use it >>> to do >>> > homework > >>> and to visit online > with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had >>> the awful blue > screen of almost death - the one that says if this is >>> the >>> > > first > >>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get > professional >>> help >>> > or > >>> call the undertaker because your > computer is dead - or something to >>> that effect. >>> >>> I > rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. > >>> > It > >>> displayed this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not > start because the following file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> > system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>> You can attempt to repair this file by > starting Windows Setup using >>> the original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' > at the first screen to start repair." >>> >>> I thought I'd try the > other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>> start, it displayed > this message: >>> >>> "Windows could not start because the following > file is missing or >>> > corrupt: > >>> root>\system32\hal.dll >>> Please re-install a copy of the above > file." >>> >>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot > sequence - by guess >>> and by golly to find which function key it > needed (I think it ended >>> up >>> > being > >>> F2, but I'm not > sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: >>> to >>> > come > > >>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. > >>> >>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then > came to >>> the first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me > to what >>> looked >>> > like a > >>> DOS screen with the following > message: >>> >>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>> The > Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. > >>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. > >>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>> >>> There were no other > instructions on the screen and I am not familiar with >>> this > Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery >>> and > repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to > EXIT. >>> > So, > >>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine > began trying to >>> restart - >>> > of > >>> course, I still had the > CD in, so we went back around. I removed the >>> CD >>> > and > >>> > rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>> >>> I have > run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, >>> 4, > >>> > and > >>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported > in the same section >>> > of > >>> the partition. In the technical > report screen, it is at the far >>> right of >>> > the > >>> screen, > and it says "01." >>> >>> When the computer goes through the boot > sequence, the POST sound is fine, >>> but when the operating system > selection is made, there is a sort of >>> "squishy" sound that reminds > me of the noise made by that failing >>> hard >>> > drive > >>> I > worked on last year - a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. >>> > I >>> > think > >>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where > some critical operating >>> system files are. >>> >>> I don't know > what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, >>> I would > certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any >>> good > advice - in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new >>> computer > altogether? >>> >>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it > came back with the >>> > message > >>> that the partition was too full > or sick or something and would have >>> to be >>> formatted before > installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not have >>> their > stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>> >>> > Thanks for any ideas, >>> >>> T >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing > list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing > list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hkotsch at arcor.de Mon Jan 17 16:03:32 2011 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:03:32 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: <4D34B8CE.60605@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Better would be: Sie haben immer Recht! Helmut ;-) -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris Fields Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 22:47 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now Helmut, Sie haben Recht! Did I say that correctly? T Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Tina, > you wrote: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets lots > of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its life - > and most of its users are very young. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you that > backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give > you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes > without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but > you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after > minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since > more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance > might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to > hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush > current stresses the electronic components. > > Helmut > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris > Fields > Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 > An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now > > > Jim, > Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. > Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk > errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I > looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on > the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After > that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the > existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, > so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the > installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes > and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I > checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on > theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this > morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, > I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, > and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - > since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer > is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. > Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - > it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one > place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very > young. > Best regards, > T > Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like >> > you > >> hard drive is failing. >> >> I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM >> > and > >> XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With >> these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. >> >> OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save the >> drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, >> > image > >> the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install a >> new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean >> > up > >> and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. >> >> It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools >> > it > >> will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer >> > time. > >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer >> >> I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your >> best bets for advice on this one. >> >> Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you >> could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix >> the disk problems if there are any. >> >> GK >> >> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields >> wrote: >> >> >>> Me again, >>> Did a little searching and found some information about using the >>> > Recovery > >>> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about >>> > 50%. > >>> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >>> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not been >>> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >>> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk >>> > /r > >> - >> >> >>> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys >>> > have. > >>> T >>> >>> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> >>>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>>> >>>> >> Pro, >> >> >>>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>>> >>>> >> years >> >> >>>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play on >>>> >>>> >> Win >> >> >>>> XP. >>>> >>>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>>> >>>> >> family. >> >> >>>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>>> >>>> >> homework >> >> >>>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had the >>>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>>> >>>> >> first >> >> >>>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional help >>>> >>>> >> or >> >> >>>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to that >>>> effect. >>>> >>>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>>> >>>> >> It >> >> >>>> displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>>> >>>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>>> start, it displayed this message: >>>> >>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>> >>>> >> corrupt: >> >> >>>> \system32\hal.dll >>>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>>> >>>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by >>>> > guess > >>>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>>> >>>> >> being >> >> >>>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>>> >>>> >> come >> >> >>>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>>> >>>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>>> >>>> >> like a >> >> >>>> DOS screen with the following message: >>>> >>>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>>> >>>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar >>>> > with > >>>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to EXIT. >>>> >>>> >> So, >> >> >>>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to restart ? >>>> >>>> >> of >> >> >>>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>>> >>>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>>> >>>> >> and >> >> >>>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same >>>> > section > >> of >> >> >>>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right of >>>> >>>> >> the >> >> >>>> screen, and it says "01." >>>> >>>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is >>>> > fine, > >>>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>>> >>>> >> drive >> >> >>>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>>> >>>> >> think >> >> >>>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical >>>> > operating > >>>> system files are. >>>> >>>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>>> altogether? >>>> >>>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>>> >>>> >> message >> >> >>>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to >>>> > be > >>>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not >>>> > have > >>>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any ideas, >>>> >>>> T >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jan 17 20:09:15 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:09:15 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D34F64B.50101@torchlake.com> How could I have left that out? :-) T Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Better would be: Sie haben immer Recht! > > Helmut ;-) > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris > Fields > Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 22:47 > An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now > > > Helmut, Sie haben Recht! Did I say that correctly? > T > > Helmut Kotsch wrote: > >> Tina, >> you wrote: >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> I do believe the hard drive is failing - it's an old machine that gets >> > lots > >> of use and has been moved from one place to another many times in its >> > life - > >> and most of its users are very young. >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Having spent my whole life in hard drive engineering I have to tell you >> > that > >> backup is a must regardless how old a drive is. No manufacturer will give >> you a guarantee that a new hard drive will run even more than 10 minutes >> without loosing data. They might advertise an average MTBF of 5 years but >> you could have bought the one in thousands that is bad and dies after >> minutes, a day or a year. I have hard drives running 24/7 365 days since >> more than 10 years without any problems. One reason for this performance >> might be that they are hardly switched off. Start/stop/start is stress to >> hard drives because the heads might stick to the surface and the inrush >> current stresses the electronic components. >> >> Helmut >> >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Tina Norris >> Fields >> Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 16:10 >> An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer - solved for now >> >> >> Jim, >> Thank you for your response. I, too, think the drive is failing. >> Here are my results so far: Spin-Rite did find and correct some disk >> errors. It also reported at least one uncorrectable error. After I >> looked up how to use the Microsoft Recovery Console, I ran chkdsk /r on >> the drive, which reported finding and correcting some more errors. After >> that, I was able to use the Windows installation CD to repair the >> existing WinXP installation. Got that essentially finished last night, >> so the computer would boot. A couple of files were reported by the >> installation program as not being able to be registered - I made notes >> and will check on them later; it couldn't find a dll that it needed - I >> checked where it was in my computer, which helped me locate it on >> theirs. Then, I reinstalled Vipre and set that up to scan at 1 this >> morning. Then, I started the Defraggler and went to bed. This morning, >> I've re-established the wireless adapter and the Internet connection, >> and I've run 70 some updates to Windows - I will still need to get SP3 - >> since the original install CD is WinXP SP2. But, at least the computer >> is running again, and my son-in-law is serious now about backing it up. >> Good, because, as noted above, I do believe the hard drive is failing - >> it's an old machine that gets lots of use and has been moved from one >> place to another many times in its life - and most of its users are very >> young. >> Best regards, >> T >> Jim Lawrence wrote: >> >> >>> I think your idea of running Spinwrite is a great idea as it sound like >>> >>> >> you >> >> >>> hard drive is failing. >>> >>> I was looking at a discount place and they had Dell computers, 1 GB RAM >>> >>> >> and >> >> >>> XP home...no idea what the hard drive size is but the price was $88. With >>> these sorts of prices around it seems hardly worth wasting time on. >>> >>> OTOH, Tina, your comments suggest a HD failure and if you want to save >>> > the > >>> drive for its contents, run Spinwrite and when the drive is recovered, >>> >>> >> image >> >> >>> the drive with a bootable CD with something like DriveImage XML, install >>> > a > >>> new drive then re-image it back and use EASEUS Partition Master to clean >>> >>> >> up >> >> >>> and re-partition the new drive. Reboot and you're done. >>> >>> It is a little more complex than that of course but if you have the tools >>> >>> >> it >> >> >>> will take about an hours worth of your time but a couple days computer >>> >>> >> time. >> >> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:24 PM >>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to revive a computer >>> >>> I've not done any dual booting. John Bartow, Drew and Jim are your >>> best bets for advice on this one. >>> >>> Good luck, sounds like you have done the right stuff so far. If you >>> could run SPinrite from a CD or floppy maybe that would be able to fix >>> the disk problems if there are any. >>> >>> GK >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Tina Norris Fields >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Me again, >>>> Did a little searching and found some information about using the >>>> >>>> >> Recovery >> >> >>>> Console. Started a chkdsk without switches, which got stuck at about >>>> >>>> >> 50%. >> >> >>>> Restarted the whole shebang, and this time when I got to the Recovery >>>> Console, the two installations of Windows were listed - they had not >>>> > been > >>>> listed in any of the previous visits to this console. >>>> I logged in to the first Windows installation and am now running chkdsk >>>> >>>> >> /r >> >> >>> - >>> >>> >>> >>>> we'll see how that goes. Still looking for any great ideas you guys >>>> >>>> >> have. >> >> >>>> T >>>> >>>> Tina Norris Fields wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you can help me bring a computer back to life. It's a dual boot >>>>> setup ? Win 2000 Pro and Win XP Home. It began its life as a Win 2000 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> Pro, >>> >>> >>> >>>>> and was updated with the second operating system added on a couple of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> years >>> >>> >>> >>>>> later. The Win 2000 Pro was kept because of a game that wouldn't play >>>>> > on > >>>>> >>> Win >>> >>> >>> >>>>> XP. >>>>> >>>>> This computer belongs to our kids, Cheryl Lynn and Brad, and their >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> family. >>> >>> >>> >>>>> It's sitting here in my office until they finish putting together their >>>>> library and study area in their house. The girls often use it to do >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> homework >>> >>> >>> >>>>> and to visit online with their friends. Three days ago, I saw it had >>>>> > the > >>>>> awful blue screen of almost death ? the one that says if this is the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> first >>> >>> >>> >>>>> time you've seen this screen, reboot, otherwise go get professional >>>>> > help > >>>>> >>> or >>> >>> >>> >>>>> call the undertaker because your computer is dead ? or something to >>>>> > that > >>>>> effect. >>>>> >>>>> I rebooted. It reached the point where Win XP should start and stopped. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> It >>> >>> >>> >>>>> displayed this message: >>>>> >>>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> corrupt: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys >>>>> You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows Setup using the >>>>> original Setup CD-ROM. Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair." >>>>> >>>>> I thought I'd try the other operating system. When Win 2000 tried to >>>>> start, it displayed this message: >>>>> >>>>> "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> corrupt: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> \system32\hal.dll >>>>> Please re-install a copy of the above file." >>>>> >>>>> I had to find my way into the BIOS to switch the boot sequence ? by >>>>> >>>>> >> guess >> >> >>>>> and by golly to find which function key it needed (I think it ended up >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> being >>> >>> >>> >>>>> F2, but I'm not sure), because it was A:, C:, D: - and I needed D: to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> come >>> >>> >>> >>>>> before C: Got that done, and put in the Setup CD-ROM and booted. >>>>> >>>>> Setup went through a process of loading lots of files, then came to the >>>>> first screen. I selected the 'r' choice. It brought me to what looked >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> like a >>> >>> >>> >>>>> DOS screen with the following message: >>>>> >>>>> "Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console. >>>>> The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. >>>>> Type EXIT to quit the Recovery Console and restart the computer. >>>>> C:>" and a blinking cursor >>>>> >>>>> There were no other instructions on the screen and I am not familiar >>>>> >>>>> >> with >> >> >>>>> this Recovery Console. First, I thought that perhaps some recovery and >>>>> repair functions had happened in the background and it was time to >>>>> > EXIT. > >>>>> >>> So, >>> >>> >>> >>>>> I typed EXIT and pressed ENTER and the machine began trying to >>>>> > restart ? > >>>>> >>> of >>> >>> >>> >>>>> course, I still had the CD in, so we went back around. I removed the CD >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> and >>> >>> >>> >>>>> rebooted, with precisely the same results as before. >>>>> >>>>> I have run Spin-Rite on this computer at three different levels, 2, 4, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> and >>> >>> >>> >>>>> 5. There is a consistent uncorrectable error reported in the same >>>>> >>>>> >> section >> >> >>> of >>> >>> >>> >>>>> the partition. In the technical report screen, it is at the far right >>>>> > of > >>>>> >>> the >>> >>> >>> >>>>> screen, and it says "01." >>>>> >>>>> When the computer goes through the boot sequence, the POST sound is >>>>> >>>>> >> fine, >> >> >>>>> but when the operating system selection is made, there is a sort of >>>>> "squishy" sound that reminds me of the noise made by that failing hard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> drive >>> >>> >>> >>>>> I worked on last year ? a sort of high-pitched little squishy peep. I >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> think >>> >>> >>> >>>>> maybe the drive has a really bad spot right where some critical >>>>> >>>>> >> operating >> >> >>>>> system files are. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know what commands to use in the Recovery Console. If I did, I >>>>> would certainly give that a GO. Does anybody on this list have any good >>>>> advice ? in addition to getting a new hard drive, or new computer >>>>> altogether? >>>>> >>>>> I did try to let Windows install itself, but it came back with the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> message >>> >>> >>> >>>>> that the partition was too full or sick or something and would have to >>>>> >>>>> >> be >> >> >>>>> formatted before installation could proceed. And, no, my kids do not >>>>> >>>>> >> have >> >> >>>>> their stuff backed up from this computer, so I did not move ahead. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any ideas, >>>>> >>>>> T >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 18 01:27:25 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:27:25 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] The most popular programming languages In-Reply-To: References: <20110110213344.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.f379f331b4.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <91C71C4536774CEBA75F0C8B0CC94D3A@creativesystemdesigns.com> The most popular programming languages are difficult to establish. Here is a link to a site which tries to answer that question: http://www.dataists.com/2010/12/ranking-the-popularity-of-programming-langau ges/ Jim From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 03:06:04 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:06:04 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Rocky I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from acrowd called Mixmeister ? it is vastly easier to use than Audacity ?the comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a shot, HTH Mark On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to break it > up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow (takes about 8 > minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this (it's great BTW to > transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it for that a lot). > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > TIA > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 18 04:00:50 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:00:50 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any point in the file and select "Split into two files". It is instantaneous. You get two windows replacing the original one with a part in each. Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for four "chunks". Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of them separately. Voila!!! -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Rocky > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from > >>acrowd > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > shot, > > HTH > > Mark > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > > Dear Lists: > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it > > for that a lot). > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jon.tydda at lonza.com Tue Jan 18 04:03:16 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:03:16 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Can you also join two MP3's with that software? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: 18 January 2011 10:01 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any point in the file and select "Split into two files". It is instantaneous. You get two windows replacing the original one with a part in each. Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for four "chunks". Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of them separately. Voila!!! -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Rocky > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from > >>acrowd > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > shot, > > HTH > > Mark > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > > Dear Lists: > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it > > for that a lot). > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 18 04:13:09 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:13:09 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: , <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, Message-ID: <4D3567B5.2152.1DFB9A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Yes. Just open a file, select Edit - Insert File and select Begin, Current or End for where you want to insert it and then select the second file. -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 11:03, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > Can you also join two MP3's with that software? > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart > McLachlan Sent: 18 January 2011 10:01 To: Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file > > My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in > the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. > > http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html > > A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any point > in the file and select "Split into two files". It is instantaneous. > You get two windows replacing the original one with a part in each. > > Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for > four "chunks". > > Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of > them separately. > > Voila!!! > > -- > Stuart > > On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > > > Hello Rocky > > > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from > > >>acrowd > > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > > shot, > > > > HTH > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Lists: > > > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > > > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > > > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > > > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it > > > for that a lot). > > > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job > > > done? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jan 18 04:36:13 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:36:13 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: <4D3567B5.2152.1DFB9A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , , <4D3567B5.2152.1DFB9A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4D356D1D.14025.1F4D82F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Just been playing it a bit more. I opened the 60 odd MB file, inserted the same file three times at the end of the original and then saved te resulting 4 1/2 hour 255 MB file ( it took several minutes to write it to disk). It took about 2 1/2 minutes to load that file back in to the program. All this on my couple of years old laptop. -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 20:13, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Yes. > > Just open a file, select Edit - Insert File and select Begin, Current > or End for where you want to insert it and then select the second > file. > > -- > Stuart > > On 18 Jan 2011 at 11:03, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > > > Can you also join two MP3's with that software? > > > > > > Jon > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart > > McLachlan Sent: 18 January 2011 10:01 To: Discussion of Hardware and > > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file > > > > My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in > > the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. > > > > http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html > > > > A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any > > point in the file and select "Split into two files". It is > > instantaneous. You get two windows replacing the original one with a > > part in each. > > > > Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for > > four "chunks". > > > > Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of > > them separately. > > > > Voila!!! > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > > > > > Hello Rocky > > > > > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > > > > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes > > > >>from acrowd > > > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > > > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > > > > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > > > shot, > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Lists: > > > > > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need > > > > to break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too > > > > slow (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward > > > > for this (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key > > > > - I use it for that a lot). > > > > > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job > > > > done? > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If > > you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jan 18 08:07:36 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:07:36 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll check it out. Thanx. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:06 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file Hello Rocky I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from >>acrowd called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a shot, HTH Mark On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear Lists: > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it for that a lot). > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > TIA > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jan 18 08:08:25 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:08:25 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file In-Reply-To: <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <4D3564D2.24643.1D49304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <53284D95F01C4729A6AFE525FF9EC43F@HAL9005> Seems like exactly what I need. Thanks. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:01 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Breaking up an mp3 file My biggest MP3 is only 64MB in size, but it loaded much quicker in the freeware version of NCH's Wavepad than in Audacity. http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html A nice feature for Rocky's purpose is that you can click on any point in the file and select "Split into two files". It is instantaneous. You get two windows replacing the original one with a part in each. Click on another point in one of the two new windows and repeat for four "chunks". Keep doing that until you have your 10 chunks and then save each of them separately. Voila!!! -- Stuart On 18 Jan 2011 at 9:06, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Rocky > > I am pasting here a comment from my FIL a few months ago > > >>The software is called EZ Vinyl/Tape Converter and it comes from > >>acrowd > called Mixmeister - it is vastly easier to use than Audacity -the > comparisonwould between Picasa and Photoshop!! > > I do not know if it will do what you need, but it might be worth a > shot, > > HTH > > Mark > > > > > On 17 January 2011 03:56, Rocky Smolin wrote: > > > Dear Lists: > > > > I have an mp3 file - an audio book - it's about 250MB. I need to > > break it up into about 10 files (don't ask). Audacity is too slow > > (takes about 8 minutes just to load the file) and awkward for this > > (it's great BTW to transpose an mp3 to a different key - I use it > > for that a lot). > > > > Is there something free easy and fast that would get this job done? > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 11:42:17 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:42:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] IIS Virtual directories in Windows 7 Message-ID: I'm trying to run DotNetNuke using IIS in Windows 7. The DNN stuff is in d:\DotNetNuke so I need to create a virtual directory to point there. The UI has changed quite a bit and I can't figure out how to do it. Suggestions? TIA, Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jan 24 12:05:42 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:05:42 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Commodore is not dead In-Reply-To: <09B4860970F14CB7871491B648C732D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <000601cb9cc0$edb7ca10$c9275e30$@winhaven.net> <09B4860970F14CB7871491B648C732D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <9A5D331BE9E741D8B2CC3A1263D89069@creativesystemdesigns.com> For all your old guys with a nostalgia bent here is a new Commodore (64). http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx Jim From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jan 25 02:45:00 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:45:00 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] IIS Virtual directories in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Arthur You need to create a website in IIS as normal, and then point that site to the physical directory on your D Drive. Do you know that you also have to assign Network service write / edit permissions on that folder in D ? Have you read about the new app pool security settings that you need to get right in IIS 7.0 / 7.5 ? There are loads of articles about it, but do not fumble around for hours - don't ask me how I know - read the articles and then make your settings. in my IIS here, I have the app pool running in integrated mode, under the identity of network service. You must get this stuff right otherwise it will not work for you. finally make sure to assign network service as a user to your db as well - do not forget this also and again I repeat - don't ask me how I know. If I can help with anything, just ask. I am using it for a while now and find it useful Mark On 20 January 2011 17:42, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I'm trying to run DotNetNuke using IIS in Windows 7. The DNN stuff is in > d:\DotNetNuke so I need to create a virtual directory to point there. The > UI has changed quite a bit and I can't figure out how to do it. > Suggestions? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jan 26 16:05:07 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:05:07 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user Message-ID: I'm trying to install DotNetNuke in Windows 7 and SQL 2008. I've configured IIS and created a DNN database, but now I'm stumbling on a new problem. The tut says right-click on the directory and select properties and its security tab, then choose Network Service from the list of users. It isn't in the list. I don't know why. How can I make it appear? Alternatively, can I use another one instead, such as SYSTEM? TIA, Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jan 26 16:20:16 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:20:16 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2468C0AA0A3744A2937A26A148CDD029@creativesystemdesigns.com> Are the tutorials for the community or for the paid version? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:05 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user I'm trying to install DotNetNuke in Windows 7 and SQL 2008. I've configured IIS and created a DNN database, but now I'm stumbling on a new problem. The tut says right-click on the directory and select properties and its security tab, then choose Network Service from the list of users. It isn't in the list. I don't know why. How can I make it appear? Alternatively, can I use another one instead, such as SYSTEM? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Jan 27 03:26:05 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:26:05 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Arthur, You will need network service. If you click edit then you have the option of adding another user to the list, type network and click check and it will find it. You are nearly there :) Mark On 26 January 2011 22:05, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I'm trying to install DotNetNuke in Windows 7 and SQL 2008. I've configured > IIS and created a DNN database, but now I'm stumbling on a new problem. The > tut says right-click on the directory and select properties and its security > tab, then choose Network Service from the list of users. It isn't in the > list. I don't know why. How can I make it appear? Alternatively, can I use > another one instead, such as SYSTEM? > > TIA, > Arthur > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Jan 27 14:03:03 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:03:03 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03AA729FAB9C4C888105AD769A457723@creativesystemdesigns.com> Arthur, I should have guessed that right-away but have never been on a site where network services have not already been installed. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:26 AM To: Arthur Fuller Cc: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Missing Network Service user Hello Arthur, You will need network service. If you click edit then you have the option of adding another user to the list, type network and click check and it will find it. You are nearly there :) Mark On 26 January 2011 22:05, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I'm trying to install DotNetNuke in Windows 7 and SQL 2008. I've configured > IIS and created a DNN database, but now I'm stumbling on a new problem. The > tut says right-click on the directory and select properties and its security > tab, then choose Network Service from the list of users. It isn't in the > list. I don't know why. How can I make it appear? Alternatively, can I use > another one instead, such as SYSTEM? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 30 11:13:07 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:13:07 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] New substance for chip designs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2593FDC4FA934CCC922AE0F471BDACB0@creativesystemdesigns.com> You may already be aware of this new substance for chip designs but it was new to me. Two Russian scientists discovered a substance which has been labeled as Graphene (graphite). The interesting thing is that this substance only needs to be one atom thick to allow the reliable flow of electrons (electricity). This chemical will allow computer chip designs to move in a whole different directions. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene Jim