From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jun 1 11:02:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 09:02:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Open Source World Gnome 3 In-Reply-To: References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: For those of you who are not consumers of the Linux world desktop, though I am sure all of you use Linux servers products whether you are aware of it or not. (It is estimated that around 80 percent of the server market is Linux/Unix which means most of the internet and fortune 500 companies.) The Linux world is unlike the Windows world where the desktop and operating system is one unit. In the Linux world the Windows desktop or presentation manager is two distinct separate components. There are a dozen different desktops and numerous variations and this is what makes one distribution of Linux different from the rest. The following link shows a gallery of the major players: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment The two top contenders are KDE, which has a similar interface to that of Windows and Gnome which has a similar interface to that of the Mac. After almost 3 years the new version of the Gnome desktop has finally been released. This version has all the features you would expect from the newest desktops and more. See the link below: http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/gnome-3-launches The touch screen drivers have not been completed yet but will be released in the next 6 months; Gnome 3.2. This will not have a big effect for most current users but in the huge corporate POS market it will be huge. Windows will still be predominant for the next foreseeable future but as this viable alternative will be available I would suspect to see many franchises will be seriously looking for their next roll-out contenders. One note: The new version of Gnome will require a better video card than the current old clunker you probably have your current Linux distro running on. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jun 1 12:17:41 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 10:17:41 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft's keynote speech will be given tonight In-Reply-To: References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <6922E0DE90EC48679975ED970A8F192E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Microsoft will be giving its keynote speech, at Computex, on its past, present and future plans. There is probably a real-time feed for those interested. http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/microsoft-will-talk-about-the-next-versio n-of-windows-at-compu This link might have a live feed but it is still under construction: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/Guggenheimer/06-01-2011COMPUTEX2011. mspx Jim PS Please ignore all the negative comments attached as some MS haters and Apple fanatics have been very busy. From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jun 1 15:52:44 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:52:44 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft's keynote speech will be given tonight Message-ID: Thanks Jim, very interesting round up. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 01-06-2011 19:17 >>> Microsoft will be giving its keynote speech, at Computex, on its past, present and future plans. There is probably a real-time feed for those interested. http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/microsoft-will-talk-about-the-next-version-of-windows-at-compu This link might have a live feed but it is still under construction: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/Guggenheimer/06-01-2011COMPUTEX2011.mspx Jim PS Please ignore all the negative comments attached as some MS haters and Apple fanatics have been very busy. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Jun 2 01:20:35 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:20:35 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper ...Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta, a recovery tool that can help you start an infected PC and perform an offline scan to help identify and remove rootkits and other advanced malware. In addition, Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta can be used if you cannot install or start an antivirus solution on your PC, or if the installed solution can?t detect or remove malware on your PC. ... To get started, please make sure that you have a blank CD, DVD, or USB drive with at least 250 MB of space. Next, download and run the tool - the tool will help you to create the bootable media required to run the software on your PC. ... -- Stuart From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Jun 2 01:44:00 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:44:00 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool In-Reply-To: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <528E57CAC9EC4FF4B0B9DAED6EABABEE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Wow, this sound exciting. Will this media disk work on say any Windows7 system or will it only work on a single unit? I will have to investigate further. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:21 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper ...Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta, a recovery tool that can help you start an infected PC and perform an offline scan to help identify and remove rootkits and other advanced malware. In addition, Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta can be used if you cannot install or start an antivirus solution on your PC, or if the installed solution can?t detect or remove malware on your PC. ... To get started, please make sure that you have a blank CD, DVD, or USB drive with at least 250 MB of space. Next, download and run the tool - the tool will help you to create the bootable media required to run the software on your PC. ... -- Stuart _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Fri Jun 3 00:20:19 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:20:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool In-Reply-To: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <00d301cc21ad$ee5af920$cb10eb60$@winhaven.net> Thanks, sounds promising -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:21 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper ...Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta, a recovery tool that can help you start an infected PC and perform an offline scan to help identify and remove rootkits and other advanced malware. In addition, Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta can be used if you cannot install or start an antivirus solution on your PC, or if the installed solution can?t detect or remove malware on your PC. ... To get started, please make sure that you have a blank CD, DVD, or USB drive with at least 250 MB of space. Next, download and run the tool - the tool will help you to create the bootable media required to run the software on your PC. ... -- Stuart _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Jun 6 11:25:26 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:25:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery Message-ID: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> RE: MS Word 2010 I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last week I set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used "Save selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one Chapter and reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his computer and the formatting styles and line styles showed up in the list. He approved everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents to applying the formatting to today and I open the chapter from last week and none of the custom formatting styles are listed in the styles gallery. The list styles are listed in the list style gallery but I'm back to square one with the formatting.. Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? John B From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:03:28 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:03:28 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery In-Reply-To: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite frustrating, but perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply the technique. A. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > RE: MS Word 2010 > > I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last week I > set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used "Save > selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one Chapter and > reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his computer and the > formatting styles and line styles showed up in the list. He approved > everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents to applying the > formatting to today and I open the chapter from last week and none of the > custom formatting styles are listed in the styles gallery. The list styles > are listed in the list style gallery but I'm back to square one with the > formatting.. > > Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the > "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? > > John B > > From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Mon Jun 6 13:33:08 2011 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:33:08 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829549279124ED@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> John When I do a book they send me the styles which I download to a folder and then use the word developer tab to install as an add in. This is usually a word template. I guess Susan would know how it works Martin Sent from my Windows Phone -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller Sent: 06 June 2011 19:09 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite frustrating, but perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply the technique. A. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > RE: MS Word 2010 > > I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last week I > set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used "Save > selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one Chapter and > reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his computer and the > formatting styles and line styles showed up in the list. He approved > everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents to applying the > formatting to today and I open the chapter from last week and none of the > custom formatting styles are listed in the styles gallery. The list styles > are listed in the list style gallery but I'm back to square one with the > formatting.. > > Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the > "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? > > John B > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:41:55 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:41:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> And I have a rough draft of a five tips piece on the Styles window that I submitted in April, but can't find online yet. I'll send it to you privately if you want it. I "think" there's a template issue involved too -- you have to flag a setting to save the style change to your Normal.dotx file. Susan H. >I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite frustrating, >but > perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply the technique. > > A. > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > >> RE: MS Word 2010 >> >> I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last week I >> set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used "Save >> selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one Chapter and >> reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his computer and >> the >> formatting styles and line styles showed up in the list. He approved >> everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents to applying the >> formatting to today and I open the chapter from last week and none of the >> custom formatting styles are listed in the styles gallery. The list >> styles >> are listed in the list style gallery but I'm back to square one with the >> formatting.. >> >> Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the >> "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? >> >> John B >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:42:51 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:42:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829549279124ED@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <341696D6676C45239ADACEE0BE6026AA@SusanHarkins> > > When I do a book they send me the styles which I download to a folder and > then use the word developer tab to install as an add in. This is usually a > word template. I guess Susan would know how it works I'm still trying to figure out the question. :) Susan H. From john at winhaven.net Mon Jun 6 13:51:10 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:51:10 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery In-Reply-To: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829549279124ED@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829549279124ED@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <01bb01cc247a$b4534d70$1cf9e850$@winhaven.net> thanks -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:33 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery John When I do a book they send me the styles which I download to a folder and then use the word developer tab to install as an add in. This is usually a word template. I guess Susan would know how it works Martin Sent from my Windows Phone -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller Sent: 06 June 2011 19:09 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite frustrating, but perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply the technique. A. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > RE: MS Word 2010 > > I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last > week I set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used > "Save selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one > Chapter and reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his > computer and the formatting styles and line styles showed up in the > list. He approved everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents > to applying the formatting to today and I open the chapter from last > week and none of the custom formatting styles are listed in the styles > gallery. The list styles are listed in the list style gallery but I'm > back to square one with the formatting.. > > Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the > "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? > > John B > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Jun 6 13:51:10 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:51:10 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery In-Reply-To: <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: <01ba01cc247a$b4049130$1c0db390$@winhaven.net> Thanks, I'd appreciate any help you can send. This is sucking my time up and there is not enough profit in this job as it is. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:42 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery And I have a rough draft of a five tips piece on the Styles window that I submitted in April, but can't find online yet. I'll send it to you privately if you want it. I "think" there's a template issue involved too -- you have to flag a setting to save the style change to your Normal.dotx file. Susan H. >I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite >frustrating, but perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply >the technique. > > A. > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > >> RE: MS Word 2010 >> >> I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last >> week I set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I >> used "Save selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did >> one Chapter and reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter >> onto his computer and the formatting styles and line styles showed up >> in the list. He approved everything. So I get some more "cleaned" >> documents to applying the formatting to today and I open the chapter >> from last week and none of the custom formatting styles are listed in >> the styles gallery. The list styles are listed in the list style >> gallery but I'm back to square one with the formatting.. >> >> Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and >> the "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? >> >> John B >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 6 22:27:44 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:27:44 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bookmarks Message-ID: <21D6FFB01372401182BE1444A6A77B4B@HAL9005> My bookmark list is way long and really not manageable. I see that there are some bookmark manager add-ons for Firefox. Does anybody have a bookmark manager they like? Rocky From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jun 10 01:11:45 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:11:45 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Create your own Cloud and use it In-Reply-To: <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: Create your own Cloud through the new OpenStack software: http://www.openstack.org/ Jim From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Jun 11 08:26:21 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 06:26:21 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp Message-ID: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Dear List: It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, 3GHz, XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, IIRC - I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though it was huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) is slowing down. I think part of the problem is that I have more stuff open than I used to so there's some swapping going on. I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics than he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the year I'll get him a new box, too. All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good price I usually order from them and have it delivered. What would you advise? TIA ROcky From marklbreen at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 12:20:21 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:20:21 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp In-Reply-To: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> References: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Hello Rocky I listened to a podcast last year by Joel Spolsky and his partner in Stack Overflow. In that podcast they discussed the ultimate developers machine. They went on to discuss building your own box. Their summary was the Jedi warriors build their own light sabres, they never just buy them. When I listened to it, I smiled smugly and thought "I do not waste my time building my own machines". Well guess what, after 20 years of buying Dell, I am have switched opinions to building my own machines. I was so surprised at what can be built. I can build a machine for myself for USD 200, which is OK, but I can also build a machine for USD 1200. Both are fun to build and there is a price break anywhere in between. I have to say that since then, I have built approx 4-5 machines and loved doing it. It is so simple to do and really fun. Finally, let me tell you about my main machine. I bought the Intel i7 950 processor, which is a 3.00 GHz (approx) processor. I also bought a USD 80 heatsink. I then simply changed a few settings and I now have my machine running rock solid at 4.5 GHz. Do give it a try, it is really fun. Even the USD 200 machines are fun to build Mark On 11 June 2011 14:26, wrote: > Dear List: > > It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, 3GHz, > XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, IIRC - > I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though it was > huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) is slowing > down. I think part of the problem is that I have more stuff open than I > used to so there's some swapping going on. > > I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. > > My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics than > he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the year I'll > get him a new box, too. > > All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. > > I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. > Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. > > But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. > > We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good price I > usually order from them and have it delivered. > > What would you advise? > > TIA > > ROcky > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jun 12 08:48:39 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:48:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp In-Reply-To: References: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Message-ID: I've seen the motherboards hanging on the rack at Fry's but never paid much attention. Maybe I'll take a field trip there and spec out a box. The components are pretty much plug and play I know - gotta buy a copy of W7 though. Do you use an SSD? R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:20 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp Hello Rocky I listened to a podcast last year by Joel Spolsky and his partner in Stack Overflow. In that podcast they discussed the ultimate developers machine. They went on to discuss building your own box. Their summary was the Jedi warriors build their own light sabres, they never just buy them. When I listened to it, I smiled smugly and thought "I do not waste my time building my own machines". Well guess what, after 20 years of buying Dell, I am have switched opinions to building my own machines. I was so surprised at what can be built. I can build a machine for myself for USD 200, which is OK, but I can also build a machine for USD 1200. Both are fun to build and there is a price break anywhere in between. I have to say that since then, I have built approx 4-5 machines and loved doing it. It is so simple to do and really fun. Finally, let me tell you about my main machine. I bought the Intel i7 950 processor, which is a 3.00 GHz (approx) processor. I also bought a USD 80 heatsink. I then simply changed a few settings and I now have my machine running rock solid at 4.5 GHz. Do give it a try, it is really fun. Even the USD 200 machines are fun to build Mark On 11 June 2011 14:26, wrote: > Dear List: > > It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, > 3GHz, XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, > IIRC - I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though > it was huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) is > slowing down. I think part of the problem is that I have more stuff > open than I used to so there's some swapping going on. > > I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. > > My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics > than he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the year > I'll get him a new box, too. > > All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. > > I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. > Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. > > But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. > > We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good price > I usually order from them and have it delivered. > > What would you advise? > > TIA > > ROcky > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 03:36:37 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:36:37 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp In-Reply-To: References: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Hello Rocky, I think that I would not buy hardware components like these in a bricks and mortar shop - it is too difficult to do comparisions standing at the counter. Mr Colby can let us know what site he uses, for Ireland, I use www.overclockers.co.uk. If you have a look at their site you will see that they structure the components section into sub sections in the probable order you will need to work with. IOW, you first of all decide Intel or AMD, then you choose the processor. Once you have chosen a processor, then you choose a M/B to match. Then you choose a case. Just as an example, 1) I built a machine with (approx) ?120 case and ?120 PSU and it works fine and I have two video cards running on it. 2) I also bought a case with built in PSU for ?30 and it also works fine and looks nice. The first case is beautifully made and the second have some sharp edges on the inside but my wife would probably not know which is which. The 650 Watt PSU in the first machine can run 6 hard disks and two high performance video cards, the PSU in the second machine is 350 Watts and only runs one video card. Incidentally, I took a look at an expensive dell machine I bought two years ago and the PSU was 350 watts, so if you buy the entry level PSU, you are still in the ball park of respectable specifications. Dan gives and good example of what SSD's should be used for, but I have instead gone with the new SATA 3 (6 Gb/s) and can buy 3 GB drives for approx ?100 - ?120. Why not try out a cheap build, then do a second one, and then do a $1000 machine, you will love it. Mark On 12 June 2011 14:48, Rocky Smolin wrote: > I've seen the motherboards hanging on the rack at Fry's but never paid much > attention. Maybe I'll take a field trip there and spec out a box. The > components are pretty much plug and play I know - gotta buy a copy of W7 > though. Do you use an SSD? > > R > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:20 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp > > Hello Rocky > > I listened to a podcast last year by Joel Spolsky and his partner in Stack > Overflow. In that podcast they discussed the ultimate developers machine. > They went on to discuss building your own box. Their summary was the Jedi > warriors build their own light sabres, they never just buy them. > > When I listened to it, I smiled smugly and thought "I do not waste my time > building my own machines". Well guess what, after 20 years of buying Dell, > I am have switched opinions to building my own machines. > > I was so surprised at what can be built. I can build a machine for myself > for USD 200, which is OK, but I can also build a machine for USD 1200. > Both > are fun to build and there is a price break anywhere in between. > > I have to say that since then, I have built approx 4-5 machines and loved > doing it. It is so simple to do and really fun. > > Finally, let me tell you about my main machine. I bought the Intel i7 950 > processor, which is a 3.00 GHz (approx) processor. I also bought a USD 80 > heatsink. I then simply changed a few settings and I now have my machine > running rock solid at 4.5 GHz. > > Do give it a try, it is really fun. > > Even the USD 200 machines are fun to build > > Mark > > > > On 11 June 2011 14:26, wrote: > > > Dear List: > > > > It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, > > 3GHz, XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, > > IIRC - I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though > > it was huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) is > > slowing down. I think part of the problem is that I have more stuff > > open than I used to so there's some swapping going on. > > > > I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. > > > > My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics > > than he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the year > > I'll get him a new box, too. > > > > All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. > > > > I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. > > Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. > > > > But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. > > > > We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good price > > I usually order from them and have it delivered. > > > > What would you advise? > > > > TIA > > > > ROcky > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 13 08:00:07 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 06:00:07 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp In-Reply-To: References: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Pondering...pondering... :) First decision is Intel vs. AMD. Will there be any detectable difference in speed between the two chips in otherwise identical machines? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:37 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp Hello Rocky, I think that I would not buy hardware components like these in a bricks and mortar shop - it is too difficult to do comparisions standing at the counter. Mr Colby can let us know what site he uses, for Ireland, I use www.overclockers.co.uk. If you have a look at their site you will see that they structure the components section into sub sections in the probable order you will need to work with. IOW, you first of all decide Intel or AMD, then you choose the processor. Once you have chosen a processor, then you choose a M/B to match. Then you choose a case. Just as an example, 1) I built a machine with (approx) ?120 case and ?120 PSU and it works fine and I have two video cards running on it. 2) I also bought a case with built in PSU for ?30 and it also works fine and looks nice. The first case is beautifully made and the second have some sharp edges on the inside but my wife would probably not know which is which. The 650 Watt PSU in the first machine can run 6 hard disks and two high performance video cards, the PSU in the second machine is 350 Watts and only runs one video card. Incidentally, I took a look at an expensive dell machine I bought two years ago and the PSU was 350 watts, so if you buy the entry level PSU, you are still in the ball park of respectable specifications. Dan gives and good example of what SSD's should be used for, but I have instead gone with the new SATA 3 (6 Gb/s) and can buy 3 GB drives for approx ?100 - ?120. Why not try out a cheap build, then do a second one, and then do a $1000 machine, you will love it. Mark On 12 June 2011 14:48, Rocky Smolin wrote: > I've seen the motherboards hanging on the rack at Fry's but never paid > much attention. Maybe I'll take a field trip there and spec out a > box. The components are pretty much plug and play I know - gotta buy > a copy of W7 though. Do you use an SSD? > > R > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:20 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp > > Hello Rocky > > I listened to a podcast last year by Joel Spolsky and his partner in > Stack Overflow. In that podcast they discussed the ultimate developers machine. > They went on to discuss building your own box. Their summary was the > Jedi warriors build their own light sabres, they never just buy them. > > When I listened to it, I smiled smugly and thought "I do not waste my > time building my own machines". Well guess what, after 20 years of > buying Dell, I am have switched opinions to building my own machines. > > I was so surprised at what can be built. I can build a machine for > myself for USD 200, which is OK, but I can also build a machine for USD 1200. > Both > are fun to build and there is a price break anywhere in between. > > I have to say that since then, I have built approx 4-5 machines and > loved doing it. It is so simple to do and really fun. > > Finally, let me tell you about my main machine. I bought the Intel i7 > 950 processor, which is a 3.00 GHz (approx) processor. I also bought > a USD 80 heatsink. I then simply changed a few settings and I now > have my machine running rock solid at 4.5 GHz. > > Do give it a try, it is really fun. > > Even the USD 200 machines are fun to build > > Mark > > > > On 11 June 2011 14:26, wrote: > > > Dear List: > > > > It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, > > 3GHz, XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, > > IIRC - I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though > > it was huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) > > is slowing down. I think part of the problem is that I have more > > stuff open than I used to so there's some swapping going on. > > > > I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. > > > > My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics > > than he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the > > year I'll get him a new box, too. > > > > All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. > > > > I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. > > Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. > > > > But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. > > > > We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good > > price I usually order from them and have it delivered. > > > > What would you advise? > > > > TIA > > > > ROcky > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jun 15 17:05:10 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:05:10 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] So you want to write you own Smart phone applications In-Reply-To: References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: <6C9E2CA0B6DE41AA8897B0606B7527D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> If you want to write your own phone applications you and not have to learn Java, C++ or become a .Net master programmer to create great applications. Below is a few links sent to me, given various Open Source apps that will allow you to write in HTML5, JavaScript (JQuery) and CSS and create great simple applications for sale or for your company or clients. Note that these frame-works will not allow as fine as control as a carefully hand coded application but it will not take weeks or months to produce excellent results either. Check out the following links: http://www.phonegap.com/ http://www.sencha.com/products/touch/ http://www.appcelerator.com/products/titanium-mobile-application-development / Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jun 15 17:54:02 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:54:02 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing NoSQL on steroids In-Reply-To: <6C9E2CA0B6DE41AA8897B0606B7527D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> <6C9E2CA0B6DE41AA8897B0606B7527D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: A new super Open Source data storage solution has been announced. " ...LexisNexis is releasing a set of open-source, data-processing tools that it says outperforms Hadoop and even handles workloads Hadoop presently can't. The technology (and new business line) is called HPCC Systems... " http://gigaom.com/cloud/lexisnexis-open-sources-its-hadoop-killer/ Read about what makes this release so important to the new super database systems markets. Jim From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jun 16 03:29:12 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:29:12 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing NoSQL on steroids Message-ID: Thanks Jim The most interesting part here is that is features "Roxie" which is ".. more like a traditional relational database or database warehouse that even can serve transactions to a web front end." Note that a VMware VM to play with is ready for download including a "getting started" type pdf-file: http://hpccsystems.com/download/hpcc-vm-image http://wpc.423a.edgecastcdn.net/00423A/pdf/runninghpccinavirtualmachine.pdf /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 16-06-2011 00:54 >>> A new super Open Source data storage solution has been announced. " ...LexisNexis is releasing a set of open-source, data-processing tools that it says outperforms Hadoop and even handles workloads Hadoop presently can't. The technology (and new business line) is called HPCC Systems... " http://gigaom.com/cloud/lexisnexis-open-sources-its-hadoop-killer/ Read about what makes this release so important to the new super database systems markets. Jim From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jun 16 16:27:04 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:27:04 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer Message-ID: OK - here's a comp from Doug - looks like a hot machine - any opinions? Reasons why I should NOT stop a Costco after my bike ride tomorrow and jest GET IT? Rocky _____ From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:34 AM To: rockysmolin at bchacc.com Subject: New computer Check this out. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11650544 &cm_mmc=BCEmail_645B2B-_-FEATURE-_-1-_-MarketingItemName Douglas Murphy Ph. 619 994-0869 Fax 619 334-1224 www.forrestercreeksoftware.com From df.waters at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 18:45:54 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:45:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002b01cc2c7f$88fbbdd0$9af33970$@comcast.net> Rocky - This is review of a similar ZT machine. 3.5/5 stars from new purchases. With this performance and such a low price, the only way to sell this is to have very inexpensive components. With this price/performance and these reviews, I'd say pass if you are looking for a reliable machine to use professionally for several years. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11628848&whse=BC&topnav=&ca t=78518&hierPath=84*56671*78518*&lang=en-US#BVRRWidgetID Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer OK - here's a comp from Doug - looks like a hot machine - any opinions? Reasons why I should NOT stop a Costco after my bike ride tomorrow and jest GET IT? Rocky _____ From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:34 AM To: rockysmolin at bchacc.com Subject: New computer Check this out. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11650544 &cm_mmc=BCEmail_645B2B-_-FEATURE-_-1-_-MarketingItemName Douglas Murphy Ph. 619 994-0869 Fax 619 334-1224 www.forrestercreeksoftware.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jun 16 19:46:40 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:46:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer In-Reply-To: <002b01cc2c7f$88fbbdd0$9af33970$@comcast.net> References: <002b01cc2c7f$88fbbdd0$9af33970$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <72D86040E2184F15B9D4CC0B626CC3DE@HAL9005> Maybe that's why they're offering lifetime support. :) R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:46 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer Rocky - This is review of a similar ZT machine. 3.5/5 stars from new purchases. With this performance and such a low price, the only way to sell this is to have very inexpensive components. With this price/performance and these reviews, I'd say pass if you are looking for a reliable machine to use professionally for several years. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11628848&whse=BC&topnav=&ca t=78518&hierPath=84*56671*78518*&lang=en-US#BVRRWidgetID Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer OK - here's a comp from Doug - looks like a hot machine - any opinions? Reasons why I should NOT stop a Costco after my bike ride tomorrow and jest GET IT? Rocky _____ From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:34 AM To: rockysmolin at bchacc.com Subject: New computer Check this out. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11650544 &cm_mmc=BCEmail_645B2B-_-FEATURE-_-1-_-MarketingItemName Douglas Murphy Ph. 619 994-0869 Fax 619 334-1224 www.forrestercreeksoftware.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 10:01:05 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:01:05 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT Friday: Thief Thinks Big Message-ID: Owen Sound, Ontario: A man has been charged after a manufactured home reported missing from a property in Southgate Township was found nearby. On June 8, a Brampton man reported to provincial police that his 10-year-old, 45-foot double-wide manufactured home had been removed from his property in Southgate Township, northwest of Toronto. The home, valued at more than than $30,000, was found on a property, "a relatively short distance from where it was taken," police said. While poplic investigated the ownership of the home, documents were produced that were found to be fraudulent, police said. Jeffrey La Forest, 43, has been charged with theft over $5,000, mischief over $5,000 and uttering a forged document. He is scheduled to appear on July 21. -- QMI Agency. Clearly this was no mere smash-and-grab operation; you need some serious equipment to pull something like this off, as it were. Turns out, though, the actual distance from the original site to the new one was less than one kilometre. Maybe he should have painted it or built a deck or something to disguise it. Arthur From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jun 17 11:42:39 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:42:39 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Message-ID: Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav From john at winhaven.net Fri Jun 17 12:36:59 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:36:59 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00e801cc2d15$2947b470$7bd71d50$@winhaven.net> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jun 17 12:52:12 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:52:12 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <725930C56295409E9836D74316FBAE93@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: I have a mixed network with both Linux and Windows machines and it is great in that I have access to best of both worlds but keeping the network connected and all the stations working together can be a real problem especially when there is a new Ubuntu release or Windows update. It seems that the problems are caused by subtle changes in security and network protocols. Many an evening has been wasted resolving these bazaar problems. Fortunately, for the internet and the flexibility of Samba. As to your specific problem I can not speak. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Fri Jun 17 14:44:32 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:44:32 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> Aha! Perhaps that explains why my network is suddenly not working right. It was working perfectly, when all of a sudden one morning - certainly following some Windows updates - the Win7 machine can no longer see the WinXP machines, or the printer - and none of the WinXP machines can see the Win7 machine or the printer, though they can see each other just fine. Dang! I'm going to try the restore point trick and see if that fixes things. Thanks, Gustav. T On 6/17/2011 12:42 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. > > I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! > > Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. > > /gustav > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jon at tydda.plus.com Fri Jun 17 14:50:32 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:50:32 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> References: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <905969E8CF614C0EB7FD39BEBE4C1A6D@jt2c> Hmm. That makes me wonder if my problems are due to a windows update too... I use hibernate a lot - it's quicker to shut down the computer and restart from a hibernate than a complete shutdown. I was away for a week, get back and there are 25 updates to install. I did them and restarted... Since then, when I restart from a hibernate, I get a message telling me that my graphics driver has stopped working and I need to restart. I've downloaded the latest nVidia driver, but I still get the problem. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: 17 June 2011 20:45 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Aha! Perhaps that explains why my network is suddenly not working right. It was working perfectly, when all of a sudden one morning - certainly following some Windows updates - the Win7 machine can no longer see the WinXP machines, or the printer - and none of the WinXP machines can see the Win7 machine or the printer, though they can see each other just fine. Dang! I'm going to try the restore point trick and see if that fixes things. Thanks, Gustav. T On 6/17/2011 12:42 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. > > I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! > > Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. > > /gustav > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat Jun 18 07:54:37 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:54:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> References: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DFCA00D.2020605@torchlake.com> Uh - now I have another new happening. I haven't yet done any system restore and this morning the Win7 sees all of the network again. But, the WinXP machines see only the WinXP machines. Hmmmmmmm T On 6/17/2011 3:44 PM, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Aha! Perhaps that explains why my network is suddenly not working > right. It was working perfectly, when all of a sudden one morning - > certainly following some Windows updates - the Win7 machine can no > longer see the WinXP machines, or the printer - and none of the WinXP > machines can see the Win7 machine or the printer, though they can see > each other just fine. Dang! I'm going to try the restore point trick > and see if that fixes things. Thanks, Gustav. > T > > On 6/17/2011 12:42 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: >> Hi all >> >> Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by >> workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, >> Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. >> >> I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a >> system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive >> was back! >> >> Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without >> finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. >> >> /gustav >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Jun 18 10:10:15 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:10:15 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Message-ID: Hi John and Tina et al This seems to be have been tracked down to the KB2536276 update. It breaks unencrypted Samba from at least Windows XP. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/why-is-update-kb2536276-causing-a-block-in/4b3536b7-b6b4-43fc-a973-c75ea478c7ca?tm=1308409382437&page=1 Don't know how that explains issues in network without Samba. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 17-06-2011 19:36 >>> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jun 18 11:58:40 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:58:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B36F88410D94C72B44F6D64F3E2BC99@creativesystemdesigns.com> Thanks for the link, Gustav. I have read about the new encryption standards set by Windows7 and only recently did a Linux update come out to fix the SMB connection. My greatest fear, in networks, is to ever lose connectivity especially as most of my client work is done remotely. To that end I setup RDP (works on Linux or Windows) to connect to all servers and most stations, also extensively use LogMeIn (Hamachi core), a few miscellaneous extras like UltraVNC (works on Linux or Windows) and NetMeeting (as it is by default on all XP stations) rounds out all the clients. For extra safety I use OpenVPN to encompass my entire network which works with any computer regardless of the OS or regardless of where the computers are situated (it will allow a laptop or a station for that matter, to connect to the network from anywhere in the world as if it was attached by a local network cable) and does it all with complete security (brilliant piece of code and I can not recommend it highly enough). The good thing is that the above protocols have remained static and are not affected by the whims or assertions of our OS designers. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:10 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi John and Tina et al This seems to be have been tracked down to the KB2536276 update. It breaks unencrypted Samba from at least Windows XP. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/w hy-is-update-kb2536276-causing-a-block-in/4b3536b7-b6b4-43fc-a973-c75ea478c7 ca?tm=1308409382437&page=1 Don't know how that explains issues in network without Samba. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 17-06-2011 19:36 >>> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Jun 18 12:13:40 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:13:40 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Message-ID: Hi Jim That sounds like a clever strategy. We've so far managed with RDP (workstations and servers) and VMware host console at the places where we are in control of the remote firewall. If not, LogMeIn (free version for commercial use) has never let us down and allows for access to a remote admin machine which can gain access to the client's non-Windows machines if needed. I'll make a note on OpenVPN though we haven't missed it features yet. A lot of stuff about the KB2536276 issue seems to pop up at the moment. It breaks connection to nearly all not-so-new Linux NAS units of any brand. I've persuaded Stu at Windows Server News to post about it hopefully to put some pressure on MS to provide an update or at least an official warning. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 18-06-2011 18:58 >>> Thanks for the link, Gustav. I have read about the new encryption standards set by Windows7 and only recently did a Linux update come out to fix the SMB connection. My greatest fear, in networks, is to ever lose connectivity especially as most of my client work is done remotely. To that end I setup RDP (works on Linux or Windows) to connect to all servers and most stations, also extensively use LogMeIn (Hamachi core), a few miscellaneous extras like UltraVNC (works on Linux or Windows) and NetMeeting (as it is by default on all XP stations) rounds out all the clients. For extra safety I use OpenVPN to encompass my entire network which works with any computer regardless of the OS or regardless of where the computers are situated (it will allow a laptop or a station for that matter, to connect to the network from anywhere in the world as if it was attached by a local network cable) and does it all with complete security (brilliant piece of code and I can not recommend it highly enough). The good thing is that the above protocols have remained static and are not affected by the whims or assertions of our OS designers. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:10 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi John and Tina et al This seems to be have been tracked down to the KB2536276 update. It breaks unencrypted Samba from at least Windows XP. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/w hy-is-update-kb2536276-causing-a-block-in/4b3536b7-b6b4-43fc-a973-c75ea478c7 ca?tm=1308409382437&page=1 Don't know how that explains issues in network without Samba. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 17-06-2011 19:36 >>> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jun 18 15:00:03 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:00:03 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6398D191544F4D1890870AE6A63D712F@creativesystemdesigns.com> That is great Gustav. If you hear any more details or solutions please post them and I will do the same. If you wish to try the OpenVPN route for your company or a client(s), I can help you in getting that WAN network up and running. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 10:14 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi Jim That sounds like a clever strategy. We've so far managed with RDP (workstations and servers) and VMware host console at the places where we are in control of the remote firewall. If not, LogMeIn (free version for commercial use) has never let us down and allows for access to a remote admin machine which can gain access to the client's non-Windows machines if needed. I'll make a note on OpenVPN though we haven't missed it features yet. A lot of stuff about the KB2536276 issue seems to pop up at the moment. It breaks connection to nearly all not-so-new Linux NAS units of any brand. I've persuaded Stu at Windows Server News to post about it hopefully to put some pressure on MS to provide an update or at least an official warning. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 18-06-2011 18:58 >>> Thanks for the link, Gustav. I have read about the new encryption standards set by Windows7 and only recently did a Linux update come out to fix the SMB connection. My greatest fear, in networks, is to ever lose connectivity especially as most of my client work is done remotely. To that end I setup RDP (works on Linux or Windows) to connect to all servers and most stations, also extensively use LogMeIn (Hamachi core), a few miscellaneous extras like UltraVNC (works on Linux or Windows) and NetMeeting (as it is by default on all XP stations) rounds out all the clients. For extra safety I use OpenVPN to encompass my entire network which works with any computer regardless of the OS or regardless of where the computers are situated (it will allow a laptop or a station for that matter, to connect to the network from anywhere in the world as if it was attached by a local network cable) and does it all with complete security (brilliant piece of code and I can not recommend it highly enough). The good thing is that the above protocols have remained static and are not affected by the whims or assertions of our OS designers. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:10 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi John and Tina et al This seems to be have been tracked down to the KB2536276 update. It breaks unencrypted Samba from at least Windows XP. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/w hy-is-update-kb2536276-causing-a-block-in/4b3536b7-b6b4-43fc-a973-c75ea478c7 ca?tm=1308409382437&page=1 Don't know how that explains issues in network without Samba. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 17-06-2011 19:36 >>> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Jun 18 19:27:44 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:27:44 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Multi-Core Processors Message-ID: <0CB5BAA70D414E24A10F2C27F8EF9CAF@HAL9005> Dear List(s): In order to take advantage of multi-core processors, do the applications need to be modified? Or is it taken care of by the operating system or the chip? IOW, I start an access app, open an mdb, then I retrieve my email from Outlook. Do those two apps run in separate cores theoretically improving the response time? Does the Word doc I open then run in a third core (of a presumably quad core processor). And if I open the file open or save dialog box in an app like an Office app, does that run in a separate core? I'm trying to decide if I need/should get dual, quad, or hex core processor in a new comp. MTIA Rocky From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 20 10:29:16 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:29:16 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Message-ID: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 From jon.tydda at lonza.com Mon Jun 20 10:34:49 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:34:49 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> Message-ID: Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or two back!!). Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jun 20 10:51:13 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:51:13 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> Message-ID: <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> ?3000 is about $4600 here...drives are so much more expensive there. Here they can be had for $79. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:35 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or two back!!). Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Jun 20 11:00:23 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:00:23 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <14DCA13F-D29B-45DD-8988-CDDD53DA46AC@tydda.plus.com> For a 2tb drive?? Buy as many as you can, you'll make a killing over here! Jon Sent from my iPhone 6 (Beta) On 20 Jun 2011, at 16:51, "Jim Lawrence" wrote: > ?3000 is about $4600 here...drives are so much more expensive there. Here > they can be had for $79. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - > Slough > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really > fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last > one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. > > For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one > Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data > drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are > a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or > two back!!). > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 > To: List; 'Off Topic' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? > He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the > new box. > > He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. > > (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will > pop up in the next couple days) > > TIA > > Rocky > > > _____ > > From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM > To: Rocky Smolin > Subject: Document > > > Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd > rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 > > Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) > > Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 > (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) > > Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) > > Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) > > Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) > > 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) > > > > Total: $789 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and > privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than > the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in > error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from > your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jun 20 11:09:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:09:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Rocky: If he does not want the drive but the new installation will be too time consuming, he can always image the old drive to the new computer drive. It is not guaranteed that the process will work but in the cases I have done this; there is a 90 percent conversion rate. The newer OSs are very flexible. If he wishes to follow this method simply add his old drive in the computer and set it to the boot drive and when the system has been configured and his old drive boot up, he can then export the revised boot drive image to other drive and switch the new drive to the boot drive. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 11:11:31 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:11:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Jon was talking about SSD drives Jim. You're getting a 2 TB SSD for $79 ? GK On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > ?3000 is about $4600 here...drives are so much more expensive there. Here > they can be had for $79. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - > Slough > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really > fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last > one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. > > For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one > Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data > drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are > a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or > two back!!). > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 > To: List; 'Off Topic' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. ?Any advice here? > He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the > new box. > > He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. > > (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will > pop up in the next couple days) > > TIA > > Rocky > > > ?_____ > > From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM > To: Rocky Smolin > Subject: Document > > > Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd > rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 > > Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) > > Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 > (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) > > Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) > > Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) > > Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) > > 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) > > > > Total: $789 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and > privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than > the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in > error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from > your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From df.waters at comcast.net Mon Jun 20 11:13:30 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:13:30 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> Message-ID: <007401cc2f64$ffd0a280$ff71e780$@comcast.net> Hi Rocky, Interesting case! 1) Don't attach a fan on the side - that will reduce the effectiveness of front to back airflow. 2) With a large fan on top, this PC may be noisy. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 20 11:21:29 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:21:29 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> <4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Thanks - will forward -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:10 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Hi Rocky: If he does not want the drive but the new installation will be too time consuming, he can always image the old drive to the new computer drive. It is not guaranteed that the process will work but in the cases I have done this; there is a 90 percent conversion rate. The newer OSs are very flexible. If he wishes to follow this method simply add his old drive in the computer and set it to the boot drive and when the system has been configured and his old drive boot up, he can then export the revised boot drive image to other drive and switch the new drive to the boot drive. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jun 20 12:03:53 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:03:53 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <14DCA13F-D29B-45DD-8988-CDDD53DA46AC@tydda.plus.com> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <14DCA13F-D29B-45DD-8988-CDDD53DA46AC@tydda.plus.com> Message-ID: <5D9BA1A65ABA4711A485E0A8F5820157@creativesystemdesigns.com> Sorry I missed the reference to SSD... Sky is still the limit on those babies. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:00 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp For a 2tb drive?? Buy as many as you can, you'll make a killing over here! Jon Sent from my iPhone 6 (Beta) On 20 Jun 2011, at 16:51, "Jim Lawrence" wrote: > ?3000 is about $4600 here...drives are so much more expensive there. Here > they can be had for $79. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - > Slough > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really > fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last > one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. > > For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one > Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data > drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are > a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or > two back!!). > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 > To: List; 'Off Topic' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? > He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the > new box. > > He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. > > (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will > pop up in the next couple days) > > TIA > > Rocky > > > _____ > > From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM > To: Rocky Smolin > Subject: Document > > > Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd > rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 > > Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) > > Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 > (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) > > Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) > > Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) > > Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) > > 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) > > > > Total: $789 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and > privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than > the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in > error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from > your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 20 12:11:00 2011 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:11:00 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005><4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hi Rocky, Your son might be interested in this ZDNet article. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/building-a-barebones-budget-gaming-pc-for-under-550/13363?tag=nl.e539 Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rocky Smolin" Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:21 AM To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Cc: Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Thanks - will forward -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:10 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Hi Rocky: If he does not want the drive but the new installation will be too time consuming, he can always image the old drive to the new computer drive. It is not guaranteed that the process will work but in the cases I have done this; there is a 90 percent conversion rate. The newer OSs are very flexible. If he wishes to follow this method simply add his old drive in the computer and set it to the boot drive and when the system has been configured and his old drive boot up, he can then export the revised boot drive image to other drive and switch the new drive to the boot drive. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 20 12:26:51 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:26:51 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005><4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <9CC5D3293EAB4B6E85E2A4399BA1ECFF@HAL9005> Bill: Good one! Thanks. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:11 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Hi Rocky, Your son might be interested in this ZDNet article. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/building-a-barebones-budget-gaming-pc-for -under-550/13363?tag=nl.e539 Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rocky Smolin" Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:21 AM To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Cc: Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Thanks - will forward -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:10 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Hi Rocky: If he does not want the drive but the new installation will be too time consuming, he can always image the old drive to the new computer drive. It is not guaranteed that the process will work but in the cases I have done this; there is a 90 percent conversion rate. The newer OSs are very flexible. If he wishes to follow this method simply add his old drive in the computer and set it to the boot drive and when the system has been configured and his old drive boot up, he can then export the revised boot drive image to other drive and switch the new drive to the boot drive. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jun 20 12:35:23 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:35:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows7 issues In-Reply-To: <6398D191544F4D1890870AE6A63D712F@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <6398D191544F4D1890870AE6A63D712F@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Has anyone else been having client and personal issues with their Windows7 updates? I have been out on a number of calls recently as client's Windows7 computers have been losing their DNS/Host/Network setting/list. Just came back from a client who could no longer access their upline company...found the DNS setting were gone and I am sure it was not the client. If it was just a one-off incident I would suspect a power bump but 8 clients is too much of a coincidence. On another couple of clients I had to key in all their servers manually as their host lists were just gone. Windows would not do its network search properly but 'Net View' at the command prompt works fine.(?) It appears to be a specific MS update that has been racking havoc. Anyone else with similar experiences? Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 06:13:30 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:13:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Question Message-ID: Is there a way to display unread messages only? I've got about 20 unread messages and it's very tiresome to page through Older and Older and Older looking for them. I want to display all the unread messages regardless of how old they are. TIA, Arthur From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Jun 22 06:38:49 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:38:49 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E01D449.14605.5D0928C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Just select all read mails and Archive them. You can still see them by Selecting All Mail instead of Inbox. Keep doing that as you read them in future, -- Stuart On 22 Jun 2011 at 7:13, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Is there a way to display unread messages only? I've got about 20 > unread messages and it's very tiresome to page through Older and Older > and Older looking for them. I want to display all the unread messages > regardless of how old they are. > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 07:48:25 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:48:25 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Question In-Reply-To: <4E01D449.14605.5D0928C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4E01D449.14605.5D0928C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Right after sending my message, I discovered another way of doing it. There's a little dropdown on the left above the message pane and you can select All Unread there. Presto. I should have known the command would be there somewhere. But you're right. I really should archive all the old stuff. It goes all the way back to when I first installed Gmail. A. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Just select all read mails and Archive them. You can still see them by > Selecting All Mail > instead of Inbox. Keep doing that as you read them in future, > > -- > Stuart > > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Jun 22 07:56:22 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:56:22 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Question In-Reply-To: References: , <4E01D449.14605.5D0928C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, Message-ID: <4E01E676.12959.617954C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Yep, use the same dropdown to select " read" and then click on archive. -- Stuart On 22 Jun 2011 at 8:48, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Right after sending my message, I discovered another way of doing it. > There's a little dropdown on the left above the message pane and you > can select All Unread there. Presto. I should have known the command > would be there somewhere. > > But you're right. I really should archive all the old stuff. It goes > all the way back to when I first installed Gmail. > > A. > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Stuart McLachlan > wrote: > > > Just select all read mails and Archive them. You can still see them > > by Selecting All Mail instead of Inbox. Keep doing that as you read > > them in future, > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jun 26 08:45:04 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:45:04 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Message-ID: <16E5C62EDD24434E9B8B6D165FF1A540@HAL9005> I didn't know my new comp - a desktop - came with wireless. Imagine my surprise when, during the start up, it detected my network - usually I don't connect a new machine to the internet until I've got AV and a firewall loaded. But I put cabled anyway to an open port on the router. SO I've got two connections - the wireless at 65 Mbps and the hard wire at 100. Question is - does the OS pick the faster one? Or how does it decide which one to use? And can you/need to force it to use the faster connection? I'm transferring several gigabytes of stuff from old comp to new - so I'm curious. MTIA Rocky From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jun 26 10:31:43 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:31:43 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless In-Reply-To: <16E5C62EDD24434E9B8B6D165FF1A540@HAL9005> References: <16E5C62EDD24434E9B8B6D165FF1A540@HAL9005> Message-ID: <21C504349D5D409C800C57A86F1785D9@creativesystemdesigns.com> On my computer which ever connection is the fastest appears to be the connection that assumes primary position. So if both connections are available then the wired connection is always first. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:45 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless I didn't know my new comp - a desktop - came with wireless. Imagine my surprise when, during the start up, it detected my network - usually I don't connect a new machine to the internet until I've got AV and a firewall loaded. But I put cabled anyway to an open port on the router. SO I've got two connections - the wireless at 65 Mbps and the hard wire at 100. Question is - does the OS pick the faster one? Or how does it decide which one to use? And can you/need to force it to use the faster connection? I'm transferring several gigabytes of stuff from old comp to new - so I'm curious. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Jun 26 16:41:59 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:41:59 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Adobe Lightroom 3 Message-ID: <114CC9FEBB774C8EA963194E0977A56E@jt2c> Hi all I'm hoping that someone else out there uses Adobe Lightroom 3 - Because I've got a lens that distorts straight lines a lot, and I can't work out how to apply the correction manually, rather than to each individual picture in turn (especially to the current album of over 600 photos...). Does anyone have any ideas?? Jon From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Jun 26 16:50:50 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:50:50 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Adobe Lightroom 3 Message-ID: Typical! Just as when doing a crossword, and I read the clue out to someone else, and I immediately think of the answer, as soon as I ask the lists, I find it :-) If anyone's interested, you do it like this: Click on All Photographs in the Catalog panel in the Library module, and then doing a metadata filter using the library filter bar to find all images shot with one of the lenses. Then select all of them (ctl/cmd A). In the Develop module turn Auto Sync on (the switch next to the Sync button at the bottom right.) Then go down to the Lens Corrections panel and apply your correction. It will be applied to all of your selected images. Do this for the rest of your lenses. Finally, turn Auto Sync off by clicking back on the switch. You may also want to set the correction as the default for when you import new images. For each lens: find an image, fix just the lens issue (hit reset beforehand to make sure you haven't made any other changes), go to Develop>Set Default Settings>Update. Jon _____ From: Jon Tydda [mailto:jon at tydda.plus.com] Sent: 26 June 2011 22:42 To: 'Off Topic'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Adobe Lightroom 3 Hi all I'm hoping that someone else out there uses Adobe Lightroom 3 - Because I've got a lens that distorts straight lines a lot, and I can't work out how to apply the correction manually, rather than to each individual picture in turn (especially to the current album of over 600 photos...). Does anyone have any ideas?? Jon From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Mon Jun 27 04:26:00 2011 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:26:00 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Adobe Lightroom 3 References: Message-ID: yes, I'm using Lightroom 3, but as I see, it's too late Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "'Off Topic'" ; "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Adobe Lightroom 3 > Typical! > > Just as when doing a crossword, and I read the clue out to someone else, > and > I immediately think of the answer, as soon as I ask the lists, I find it > :-) > > If anyone's interested, you do it like this: > > Click on All Photographs in the Catalog panel in the Library module, and > then doing a metadata filter using the library filter bar to find all > images > shot with one of the lenses. Then select all of them (ctl/cmd A). In the > Develop module turn Auto Sync on (the switch next to the Sync button at > the > bottom right.) Then go down to the Lens Corrections panel and apply your > correction. It will be applied to all of your selected images. Do this > for > the rest of your lenses. Finally, turn Auto Sync off by clicking back on > the switch. > You may also want to set the correction as the default for when you import > new images. For each lens: find an image, fix just the lens issue (hit > reset beforehand to make sure you haven't made any other changes), go to > Develop>Set Default Settings>Update. > > > Jon > > _____ > > From: Jon Tydda [mailto:jon at tydda.plus.com] > Sent: 26 June 2011 22:42 > To: 'Off Topic'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Adobe Lightroom 3 > > > Hi all > > I'm hoping that someone else out there uses Adobe Lightroom 3 - Because > I've > got a lens that distorts straight lines a lot, and I can't work out how to > apply the correction manually, rather than to each individual picture in > turn (especially to the current album of over 600 photos...). > > Does anyone have any ideas?? > > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 14:28:15 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:28:15 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows7 issues In-Reply-To: References: <6398D191544F4D1890870AE6A63D712F@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hello Jim, I am working on a Vista machine that was working fine until recently, I could not access network settings at all. I did a system restore and all is back to normal. Not sure what caused it. What I am worrying about now is whether I can safely give this machine back now - will MS 'break' it again? or does the system restore cleverly mark certain updates bad and not attempt them a second time? FWIW, it is running Vista Home Premium SP 1 thanks Mark On 20 June 2011 18:35, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Has anyone else been having client and personal issues with their Windows7 > updates? > > I have been out on a number of calls recently as client's Windows7 > computers > have been losing their DNS/Host/Network setting/list. Just came back from a > client who could no longer access their upline company...found the DNS > setting were gone and I am sure it was not the client. If it was just a > one-off incident I would suspect a power bump but 8 clients is too much of > a > coincidence. > > On another couple of clients I had to key in all their servers manually as > their host lists were just gone. Windows would not do its network search > properly but 'Net View' at the command prompt works fine.(?) It appears to > be a specific MS update that has been racking havoc. > > Anyone else with similar experiences? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jun 30 19:38:03 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:38:03 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers Message-ID: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> Dear List: The new comp came wit a nice set of Bose speakers. My desk now has three pairs of speakers on it - one for each active comp. I used to use a kvm switch to share display/mouse/keyboard. Is there something like that where you could share one set of good speakers with several comps? TIA Rocky From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jun 30 19:41:53 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:41:53 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers In-Reply-To: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> References: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> Message-ID: <2C475F9A33764C1BBE637D7753534700@HAL9007> I see the Y splitter thing - trip to Radio Shack (ugh. To do 3 comps I suppose I could split a splitter. If you just want to play mp3s this looks like a cool app: http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-share-speaker-between-multi ple-computers-over-a-network/ R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:38 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers Dear List: The new comp came wit a nice set of Bose speakers. My desk now has three pairs of speakers on it - one for each active comp. I used to use a kvm switch to share display/mouse/keyboard. Is there something like that where you could share one set of good speakers with several comps? TIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Thu Jun 30 20:44:29 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:44:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers In-Reply-To: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> References: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> Message-ID: <010a01cc3790$6b95f5f0$42c1e1d0$@winhaven.net> My KVM has a speaker, mic and USB device sharing option. ATEN brand 8 holer. My old one did too - I think it was ioGear brand 4 holer or something like that. I connect a little speaker to it but keep my big set connected to my the PC which I play my music with. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:38 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers Dear List: The new comp came wit a nice set of Bose speakers. My desk now has three pairs of speakers on it - one for each active comp. I used to use a kvm switch to share display/mouse/keyboard. Is there something like that where you could share one set of good speakers with several comps? TIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jun 1 11:02:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 09:02:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Open Source World Gnome 3 In-Reply-To: References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: For those of you who are not consumers of the Linux world desktop, though I am sure all of you use Linux servers products whether you are aware of it or not. (It is estimated that around 80 percent of the server market is Linux/Unix which means most of the internet and fortune 500 companies.) The Linux world is unlike the Windows world where the desktop and operating system is one unit. In the Linux world the Windows desktop or presentation manager is two distinct separate components. There are a dozen different desktops and numerous variations and this is what makes one distribution of Linux different from the rest. The following link shows a gallery of the major players: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment The two top contenders are KDE, which has a similar interface to that of Windows and Gnome which has a similar interface to that of the Mac. After almost 3 years the new version of the Gnome desktop has finally been released. This version has all the features you would expect from the newest desktops and more. See the link below: http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/gnome-3-launches The touch screen drivers have not been completed yet but will be released in the next 6 months; Gnome 3.2. This will not have a big effect for most current users but in the huge corporate POS market it will be huge. Windows will still be predominant for the next foreseeable future but as this viable alternative will be available I would suspect to see many franchises will be seriously looking for their next roll-out contenders. One note: The new version of Gnome will require a better video card than the current old clunker you probably have your current Linux distro running on. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jun 1 12:17:41 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 10:17:41 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft's keynote speech will be given tonight In-Reply-To: References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <6922E0DE90EC48679975ED970A8F192E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Microsoft will be giving its keynote speech, at Computex, on its past, present and future plans. There is probably a real-time feed for those interested. http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/microsoft-will-talk-about-the-next-versio n-of-windows-at-compu This link might have a live feed but it is still under construction: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/Guggenheimer/06-01-2011COMPUTEX2011. mspx Jim PS Please ignore all the negative comments attached as some MS haters and Apple fanatics have been very busy. From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jun 1 15:52:44 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:52:44 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft's keynote speech will be given tonight Message-ID: Thanks Jim, very interesting round up. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 01-06-2011 19:17 >>> Microsoft will be giving its keynote speech, at Computex, on its past, present and future plans. There is probably a real-time feed for those interested. http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/microsoft-will-talk-about-the-next-version-of-windows-at-compu This link might have a live feed but it is still under construction: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/Guggenheimer/06-01-2011COMPUTEX2011.mspx Jim PS Please ignore all the negative comments attached as some MS haters and Apple fanatics have been very busy. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Jun 2 01:20:35 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:20:35 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper ...Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta, a recovery tool that can help you start an infected PC and perform an offline scan to help identify and remove rootkits and other advanced malware. In addition, Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta can be used if you cannot install or start an antivirus solution on your PC, or if the installed solution can?t detect or remove malware on your PC. ... To get started, please make sure that you have a blank CD, DVD, or USB drive with at least 250 MB of space. Next, download and run the tool - the tool will help you to create the bootable media required to run the software on your PC. ... -- Stuart From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Jun 2 01:44:00 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:44:00 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool In-Reply-To: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <528E57CAC9EC4FF4B0B9DAED6EABABEE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Wow, this sound exciting. Will this media disk work on say any Windows7 system or will it only work on a single unit? I will have to investigate further. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:21 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper ...Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta, a recovery tool that can help you start an infected PC and perform an offline scan to help identify and remove rootkits and other advanced malware. In addition, Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta can be used if you cannot install or start an antivirus solution on your PC, or if the installed solution can?t detect or remove malware on your PC. ... To get started, please make sure that you have a blank CD, DVD, or USB drive with at least 250 MB of space. Next, download and run the tool - the tool will help you to create the bootable media required to run the software on your PC. ... -- Stuart _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Fri Jun 3 00:20:19 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:20:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool In-Reply-To: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4DE72BB3.656.2E75C545@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <00d301cc21ad$ee5af920$cb10eb60$@winhaven.net> Thanks, sounds promising -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:21 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New MS AV Tool http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper ...Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta, a recovery tool that can help you start an infected PC and perform an offline scan to help identify and remove rootkits and other advanced malware. In addition, Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper Beta can be used if you cannot install or start an antivirus solution on your PC, or if the installed solution can?t detect or remove malware on your PC. ... To get started, please make sure that you have a blank CD, DVD, or USB drive with at least 250 MB of space. Next, download and run the tool - the tool will help you to create the bootable media required to run the software on your PC. ... -- Stuart _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Jun 6 11:25:26 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:25:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery Message-ID: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> RE: MS Word 2010 I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last week I set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used "Save selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one Chapter and reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his computer and the formatting styles and line styles showed up in the list. He approved everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents to applying the formatting to today and I open the chapter from last week and none of the custom formatting styles are listed in the styles gallery. The list styles are listed in the list style gallery but I'm back to square one with the formatting.. Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? John B From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:03:28 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:03:28 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery In-Reply-To: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite frustrating, but perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply the technique. A. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > RE: MS Word 2010 > > I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last week I > set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used "Save > selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one Chapter and > reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his computer and the > formatting styles and line styles showed up in the list. He approved > everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents to applying the > formatting to today and I open the chapter from last week and none of the > custom formatting styles are listed in the styles gallery. The list styles > are listed in the list style gallery but I'm back to square one with the > formatting.. > > Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the > "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? > > John B > > From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Mon Jun 6 13:33:08 2011 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:33:08 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829549279124ED@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> John When I do a book they send me the styles which I download to a folder and then use the word developer tab to install as an add in. This is usually a word template. I guess Susan would know how it works Martin Sent from my Windows Phone -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller Sent: 06 June 2011 19:09 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite frustrating, but perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply the technique. A. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > RE: MS Word 2010 > > I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last week I > set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used "Save > selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one Chapter and > reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his computer and the > formatting styles and line styles showed up in the list. He approved > everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents to applying the > formatting to today and I open the chapter from last week and none of the > custom formatting styles are listed in the styles gallery. The list styles > are listed in the list style gallery but I'm back to square one with the > formatting.. > > Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the > "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? > > John B > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:41:55 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:41:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> And I have a rough draft of a five tips piece on the Styles window that I submitted in April, but can't find online yet. I'll send it to you privately if you want it. I "think" there's a template issue involved too -- you have to flag a setting to save the style change to your Normal.dotx file. Susan H. >I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite frustrating, >but > perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply the technique. > > A. > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > >> RE: MS Word 2010 >> >> I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last week I >> set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used "Save >> selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one Chapter and >> reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his computer and >> the >> formatting styles and line styles showed up in the list. He approved >> everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents to applying the >> formatting to today and I open the chapter from last week and none of the >> custom formatting styles are listed in the styles gallery. The list >> styles >> are listed in the list style gallery but I'm back to square one with the >> formatting.. >> >> Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the >> "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? >> >> John B >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:42:51 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:42:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829549279124ED@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <341696D6676C45239ADACEE0BE6026AA@SusanHarkins> > > When I do a book they send me the styles which I download to a folder and > then use the word developer tab to install as an add in. This is usually a > word template. I guess Susan would know how it works I'm still trying to figure out the question. :) Susan H. From john at winhaven.net Mon Jun 6 13:51:10 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:51:10 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery In-Reply-To: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829549279124ED@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829549279124ED@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <01bb01cc247a$b4534d70$1cf9e850$@winhaven.net> thanks -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:33 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery John When I do a book they send me the styles which I download to a folder and then use the word developer tab to install as an add in. This is usually a word template. I guess Susan would know how it works Martin Sent from my Windows Phone -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller Sent: 06 June 2011 19:09 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite frustrating, but perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply the technique. A. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > RE: MS Word 2010 > > I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last > week I set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I used > "Save selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did one > Chapter and reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter onto his > computer and the formatting styles and line styles showed up in the > list. He approved everything. So I get some more "cleaned" documents > to applying the formatting to today and I open the chapter from last > week and none of the custom formatting styles are listed in the styles > gallery. The list styles are listed in the list style gallery but I'm > back to square one with the formatting.. > > Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and the > "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? > > John B > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Jun 6 13:51:10 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:51:10 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery In-Reply-To: <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: <01ba01cc247a$b4049130$1c0db390$@winhaven.net> Thanks, I'd appreciate any help you can send. This is sucking my time up and there is not enough profit in this job as it is. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:42 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS Word Styles Gallery And I have a rough draft of a five tips piece on the Styles window that I submitted in April, but can't find online yet. I'll send it to you privately if you want it. I "think" there's a template issue involved too -- you have to flag a setting to save the style change to your Normal.dotx file. Susan H. >I want to know too. I have found this alleged feature quite >frustrating, but perhaps this is due to my ignorance of how to apply >the technique. > > A. > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM, John Bartow wrote: > >> RE: MS Word 2010 >> >> I have some documents that all need to be formatted the same. Last >> week I set up some formatting styles and list numbering styles. I >> used "Save selection as a new Quick Style" and all was well. I did >> one Chapter and reviewed it with the client. I loaded the chapter >> onto his computer and the formatting styles and line styles showed up >> in the list. He approved everything. So I get some more "cleaned" >> documents to applying the formatting to today and I open the chapter >> from last week and none of the custom formatting styles are listed in >> the styles gallery. The list styles are listed in the list style >> gallery but I'm back to square one with the formatting.. >> >> Does anyone know what the deal is with these formatting styles and >> the "Styles Gallery"? Specifically - how do I get these to be persistent? >> >> John B >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 6 22:27:44 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:27:44 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bookmarks Message-ID: <21D6FFB01372401182BE1444A6A77B4B@HAL9005> My bookmark list is way long and really not manageable. I see that there are some bookmark manager add-ons for Firefox. Does anybody have a bookmark manager they like? Rocky From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jun 10 01:11:45 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:11:45 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Create your own Cloud and use it In-Reply-To: <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: Create your own Cloud through the new OpenStack software: http://www.openstack.org/ Jim From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Jun 11 08:26:21 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 06:26:21 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp Message-ID: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Dear List: It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, 3GHz, XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, IIRC - I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though it was huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) is slowing down. I think part of the problem is that I have more stuff open than I used to so there's some swapping going on. I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics than he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the year I'll get him a new box, too. All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good price I usually order from them and have it delivered. What would you advise? TIA ROcky From marklbreen at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 12:20:21 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:20:21 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp In-Reply-To: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> References: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Hello Rocky I listened to a podcast last year by Joel Spolsky and his partner in Stack Overflow. In that podcast they discussed the ultimate developers machine. They went on to discuss building your own box. Their summary was the Jedi warriors build their own light sabres, they never just buy them. When I listened to it, I smiled smugly and thought "I do not waste my time building my own machines". Well guess what, after 20 years of buying Dell, I am have switched opinions to building my own machines. I was so surprised at what can be built. I can build a machine for myself for USD 200, which is OK, but I can also build a machine for USD 1200. Both are fun to build and there is a price break anywhere in between. I have to say that since then, I have built approx 4-5 machines and loved doing it. It is so simple to do and really fun. Finally, let me tell you about my main machine. I bought the Intel i7 950 processor, which is a 3.00 GHz (approx) processor. I also bought a USD 80 heatsink. I then simply changed a few settings and I now have my machine running rock solid at 4.5 GHz. Do give it a try, it is really fun. Even the USD 200 machines are fun to build Mark On 11 June 2011 14:26, wrote: > Dear List: > > It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, 3GHz, > XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, IIRC - > I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though it was > huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) is slowing > down. I think part of the problem is that I have more stuff open than I > used to so there's some swapping going on. > > I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. > > My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics than > he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the year I'll > get him a new box, too. > > All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. > > I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. > Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. > > But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. > > We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good price I > usually order from them and have it delivered. > > What would you advise? > > TIA > > ROcky > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jun 12 08:48:39 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:48:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp In-Reply-To: References: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Message-ID: I've seen the motherboards hanging on the rack at Fry's but never paid much attention. Maybe I'll take a field trip there and spec out a box. The components are pretty much plug and play I know - gotta buy a copy of W7 though. Do you use an SSD? R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:20 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp Hello Rocky I listened to a podcast last year by Joel Spolsky and his partner in Stack Overflow. In that podcast they discussed the ultimate developers machine. They went on to discuss building your own box. Their summary was the Jedi warriors build their own light sabres, they never just buy them. When I listened to it, I smiled smugly and thought "I do not waste my time building my own machines". Well guess what, after 20 years of buying Dell, I am have switched opinions to building my own machines. I was so surprised at what can be built. I can build a machine for myself for USD 200, which is OK, but I can also build a machine for USD 1200. Both are fun to build and there is a price break anywhere in between. I have to say that since then, I have built approx 4-5 machines and loved doing it. It is so simple to do and really fun. Finally, let me tell you about my main machine. I bought the Intel i7 950 processor, which is a 3.00 GHz (approx) processor. I also bought a USD 80 heatsink. I then simply changed a few settings and I now have my machine running rock solid at 4.5 GHz. Do give it a try, it is really fun. Even the USD 200 machines are fun to build Mark On 11 June 2011 14:26, wrote: > Dear List: > > It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, > 3GHz, XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, > IIRC - I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though > it was huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) is > slowing down. I think part of the problem is that I have more stuff > open than I used to so there's some swapping going on. > > I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. > > My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics > than he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the year > I'll get him a new box, too. > > All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. > > I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. > Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. > > But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. > > We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good price > I usually order from them and have it delivered. > > What would you advise? > > TIA > > ROcky > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 03:36:37 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:36:37 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp In-Reply-To: References: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Hello Rocky, I think that I would not buy hardware components like these in a bricks and mortar shop - it is too difficult to do comparisions standing at the counter. Mr Colby can let us know what site he uses, for Ireland, I use www.overclockers.co.uk. If you have a look at their site you will see that they structure the components section into sub sections in the probable order you will need to work with. IOW, you first of all decide Intel or AMD, then you choose the processor. Once you have chosen a processor, then you choose a M/B to match. Then you choose a case. Just as an example, 1) I built a machine with (approx) ?120 case and ?120 PSU and it works fine and I have two video cards running on it. 2) I also bought a case with built in PSU for ?30 and it also works fine and looks nice. The first case is beautifully made and the second have some sharp edges on the inside but my wife would probably not know which is which. The 650 Watt PSU in the first machine can run 6 hard disks and two high performance video cards, the PSU in the second machine is 350 Watts and only runs one video card. Incidentally, I took a look at an expensive dell machine I bought two years ago and the PSU was 350 watts, so if you buy the entry level PSU, you are still in the ball park of respectable specifications. Dan gives and good example of what SSD's should be used for, but I have instead gone with the new SATA 3 (6 Gb/s) and can buy 3 GB drives for approx ?100 - ?120. Why not try out a cheap build, then do a second one, and then do a $1000 machine, you will love it. Mark On 12 June 2011 14:48, Rocky Smolin wrote: > I've seen the motherboards hanging on the rack at Fry's but never paid much > attention. Maybe I'll take a field trip there and spec out a box. The > components are pretty much plug and play I know - gotta buy a copy of W7 > though. Do you use an SSD? > > R > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:20 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp > > Hello Rocky > > I listened to a podcast last year by Joel Spolsky and his partner in Stack > Overflow. In that podcast they discussed the ultimate developers machine. > They went on to discuss building your own box. Their summary was the Jedi > warriors build their own light sabres, they never just buy them. > > When I listened to it, I smiled smugly and thought "I do not waste my time > building my own machines". Well guess what, after 20 years of buying Dell, > I am have switched opinions to building my own machines. > > I was so surprised at what can be built. I can build a machine for myself > for USD 200, which is OK, but I can also build a machine for USD 1200. > Both > are fun to build and there is a price break anywhere in between. > > I have to say that since then, I have built approx 4-5 machines and loved > doing it. It is so simple to do and really fun. > > Finally, let me tell you about my main machine. I bought the Intel i7 950 > processor, which is a 3.00 GHz (approx) processor. I also bought a USD 80 > heatsink. I then simply changed a few settings and I now have my machine > running rock solid at 4.5 GHz. > > Do give it a try, it is really fun. > > Even the USD 200 machines are fun to build > > Mark > > > > On 11 June 2011 14:26, wrote: > > > Dear List: > > > > It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, > > 3GHz, XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, > > IIRC - I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though > > it was huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) is > > slowing down. I think part of the problem is that I have more stuff > > open than I used to so there's some swapping going on. > > > > I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. > > > > My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics > > than he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the year > > I'll get him a new box, too. > > > > All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. > > > > I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. > > Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. > > > > But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. > > > > We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good price > > I usually order from them and have it delivered. > > > > What would you advise? > > > > TIA > > > > ROcky > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 13 08:00:07 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 06:00:07 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp In-Reply-To: References: <20110611062621.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.8b6bd3a28c.wbe@email18.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Pondering...pondering... :) First decision is Intel vs. AMD. Will there be any detectable difference in speed between the two chips in otherwise identical machines? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:37 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp Hello Rocky, I think that I would not buy hardware components like these in a bricks and mortar shop - it is too difficult to do comparisions standing at the counter. Mr Colby can let us know what site he uses, for Ireland, I use www.overclockers.co.uk. If you have a look at their site you will see that they structure the components section into sub sections in the probable order you will need to work with. IOW, you first of all decide Intel or AMD, then you choose the processor. Once you have chosen a processor, then you choose a M/B to match. Then you choose a case. Just as an example, 1) I built a machine with (approx) ?120 case and ?120 PSU and it works fine and I have two video cards running on it. 2) I also bought a case with built in PSU for ?30 and it also works fine and looks nice. The first case is beautifully made and the second have some sharp edges on the inside but my wife would probably not know which is which. The 650 Watt PSU in the first machine can run 6 hard disks and two high performance video cards, the PSU in the second machine is 350 Watts and only runs one video card. Incidentally, I took a look at an expensive dell machine I bought two years ago and the PSU was 350 watts, so if you buy the entry level PSU, you are still in the ball park of respectable specifications. Dan gives and good example of what SSD's should be used for, but I have instead gone with the new SATA 3 (6 Gb/s) and can buy 3 GB drives for approx ?100 - ?120. Why not try out a cheap build, then do a second one, and then do a $1000 machine, you will love it. Mark On 12 June 2011 14:48, Rocky Smolin wrote: > I've seen the motherboards hanging on the rack at Fry's but never paid > much attention. Maybe I'll take a field trip there and spec out a > box. The components are pretty much plug and play I know - gotta buy > a copy of W7 though. Do you use an SSD? > > R > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:20 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Shopping for a new comp > > Hello Rocky > > I listened to a podcast last year by Joel Spolsky and his partner in > Stack Overflow. In that podcast they discussed the ultimate developers machine. > They went on to discuss building your own box. Their summary was the > Jedi warriors build their own light sabres, they never just buy them. > > When I listened to it, I smiled smugly and thought "I do not waste my > time building my own machines". Well guess what, after 20 years of > buying Dell, I am have switched opinions to building my own machines. > > I was so surprised at what can be built. I can build a machine for > myself for USD 200, which is OK, but I can also build a machine for USD 1200. > Both > are fun to build and there is a price break anywhere in between. > > I have to say that since then, I have built approx 4-5 machines and > loved doing it. It is so simple to do and really fun. > > Finally, let me tell you about my main machine. I bought the Intel i7 > 950 processor, which is a 3.00 GHz (approx) processor. I also bought > a USD 80 heatsink. I then simply changed a few settings and I now > have my machine running rock solid at 4.5 GHz. > > Do give it a try, it is really fun. > > Even the USD 200 machines are fun to build > > Mark > > > > On 11 June 2011 14:26, wrote: > > > Dear List: > > > > It's time. My current development box is 4-5 years old. Dell P4, > > 3GHz, XP, limited to 2 GB RAM. And the HD is pretty small (<100 GB, > > IIRC - I'm not at home at the moment - in Chicago, actually), though > > it was huge at the time. Been a very solid workhorse but (like me) > > is slowing down. I think part of the problem is that I have more > > stuff open than I used to so there's some swapping going on. > > > > I could dump the HD, reformat and reload I suppose. > > > > My 14 y.o. wants a more powerful box, too and needs better graphics > > than he has. So I told him with the right GPA at the end of the > > year I'll get him a new box, too. > > > > All we need are the boxes, BTW - got plenty displays and external HD. > > > > I need speed, not a lot of graphics, and no need for huge HD storage. > > Any new box will have a big enough HD for me. > > > > But the new crop of multi-core processors is unfamiliar to me. > > > > We'll probably take a field trip to Fry's but if Dell has a good > > price I usually order from them and have it delivered. > > > > What would you advise? > > > > TIA > > > > ROcky > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jun 15 17:05:10 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:05:10 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] So you want to write you own Smart phone applications In-Reply-To: References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: <6C9E2CA0B6DE41AA8897B0606B7527D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> If you want to write your own phone applications you and not have to learn Java, C++ or become a .Net master programmer to create great applications. Below is a few links sent to me, given various Open Source apps that will allow you to write in HTML5, JavaScript (JQuery) and CSS and create great simple applications for sale or for your company or clients. Note that these frame-works will not allow as fine as control as a carefully hand coded application but it will not take weeks or months to produce excellent results either. Check out the following links: http://www.phonegap.com/ http://www.sencha.com/products/touch/ http://www.appcelerator.com/products/titanium-mobile-application-development / Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Jun 15 17:54:02 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:54:02 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing NoSQL on steroids In-Reply-To: <6C9E2CA0B6DE41AA8897B0606B7527D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <018801cc2466$58079da0$0816d8e0$@winhaven.net> <918FE4DC7B4A4DC38B9587338528DDD0@SusanHarkins> <6C9E2CA0B6DE41AA8897B0606B7527D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: A new super Open Source data storage solution has been announced. " ...LexisNexis is releasing a set of open-source, data-processing tools that it says outperforms Hadoop and even handles workloads Hadoop presently can't. The technology (and new business line) is called HPCC Systems... " http://gigaom.com/cloud/lexisnexis-open-sources-its-hadoop-killer/ Read about what makes this release so important to the new super database systems markets. Jim From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jun 16 03:29:12 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:29:12 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing NoSQL on steroids Message-ID: Thanks Jim The most interesting part here is that is features "Roxie" which is ".. more like a traditional relational database or database warehouse that even can serve transactions to a web front end." Note that a VMware VM to play with is ready for download including a "getting started" type pdf-file: http://hpccsystems.com/download/hpcc-vm-image http://wpc.423a.edgecastcdn.net/00423A/pdf/runninghpccinavirtualmachine.pdf /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 16-06-2011 00:54 >>> A new super Open Source data storage solution has been announced. " ...LexisNexis is releasing a set of open-source, data-processing tools that it says outperforms Hadoop and even handles workloads Hadoop presently can't. The technology (and new business line) is called HPCC Systems... " http://gigaom.com/cloud/lexisnexis-open-sources-its-hadoop-killer/ Read about what makes this release so important to the new super database systems markets. Jim From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jun 16 16:27:04 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:27:04 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer Message-ID: OK - here's a comp from Doug - looks like a hot machine - any opinions? Reasons why I should NOT stop a Costco after my bike ride tomorrow and jest GET IT? Rocky _____ From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:34 AM To: rockysmolin at bchacc.com Subject: New computer Check this out. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11650544 &cm_mmc=BCEmail_645B2B-_-FEATURE-_-1-_-MarketingItemName Douglas Murphy Ph. 619 994-0869 Fax 619 334-1224 www.forrestercreeksoftware.com From df.waters at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 18:45:54 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:45:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002b01cc2c7f$88fbbdd0$9af33970$@comcast.net> Rocky - This is review of a similar ZT machine. 3.5/5 stars from new purchases. With this performance and such a low price, the only way to sell this is to have very inexpensive components. With this price/performance and these reviews, I'd say pass if you are looking for a reliable machine to use professionally for several years. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11628848&whse=BC&topnav=&ca t=78518&hierPath=84*56671*78518*&lang=en-US#BVRRWidgetID Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer OK - here's a comp from Doug - looks like a hot machine - any opinions? Reasons why I should NOT stop a Costco after my bike ride tomorrow and jest GET IT? Rocky _____ From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:34 AM To: rockysmolin at bchacc.com Subject: New computer Check this out. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11650544 &cm_mmc=BCEmail_645B2B-_-FEATURE-_-1-_-MarketingItemName Douglas Murphy Ph. 619 994-0869 Fax 619 334-1224 www.forrestercreeksoftware.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jun 16 19:46:40 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:46:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer In-Reply-To: <002b01cc2c7f$88fbbdd0$9af33970$@comcast.net> References: <002b01cc2c7f$88fbbdd0$9af33970$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <72D86040E2184F15B9D4CC0B626CC3DE@HAL9005> Maybe that's why they're offering lifetime support. :) R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:46 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer Rocky - This is review of a similar ZT machine. 3.5/5 stars from new purchases. With this performance and such a low price, the only way to sell this is to have very inexpensive components. With this price/performance and these reviews, I'd say pass if you are looking for a reliable machine to use professionally for several years. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11628848&whse=BC&topnav=&ca t=78518&hierPath=84*56671*78518*&lang=en-US#BVRRWidgetID Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] OT - FW: New computer OK - here's a comp from Doug - looks like a hot machine - any opinions? Reasons why I should NOT stop a Costco after my bike ride tomorrow and jest GET IT? Rocky _____ From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:34 AM To: rockysmolin at bchacc.com Subject: New computer Check this out. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11650544 &cm_mmc=BCEmail_645B2B-_-FEATURE-_-1-_-MarketingItemName Douglas Murphy Ph. 619 994-0869 Fax 619 334-1224 www.forrestercreeksoftware.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 10:01:05 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:01:05 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT Friday: Thief Thinks Big Message-ID: Owen Sound, Ontario: A man has been charged after a manufactured home reported missing from a property in Southgate Township was found nearby. On June 8, a Brampton man reported to provincial police that his 10-year-old, 45-foot double-wide manufactured home had been removed from his property in Southgate Township, northwest of Toronto. The home, valued at more than than $30,000, was found on a property, "a relatively short distance from where it was taken," police said. While poplic investigated the ownership of the home, documents were produced that were found to be fraudulent, police said. Jeffrey La Forest, 43, has been charged with theft over $5,000, mischief over $5,000 and uttering a forged document. He is scheduled to appear on July 21. -- QMI Agency. Clearly this was no mere smash-and-grab operation; you need some serious equipment to pull something like this off, as it were. Turns out, though, the actual distance from the original site to the new one was less than one kilometre. Maybe he should have painted it or built a deck or something to disguise it. Arthur From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jun 17 11:42:39 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:42:39 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Message-ID: Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav From john at winhaven.net Fri Jun 17 12:36:59 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:36:59 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00e801cc2d15$2947b470$7bd71d50$@winhaven.net> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jun 17 12:52:12 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:52:12 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <725930C56295409E9836D74316FBAE93@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: I have a mixed network with both Linux and Windows machines and it is great in that I have access to best of both worlds but keeping the network connected and all the stations working together can be a real problem especially when there is a new Ubuntu release or Windows update. It seems that the problems are caused by subtle changes in security and network protocols. Many an evening has been wasted resolving these bazaar problems. Fortunately, for the internet and the flexibility of Samba. As to your specific problem I can not speak. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Fri Jun 17 14:44:32 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:44:32 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> Aha! Perhaps that explains why my network is suddenly not working right. It was working perfectly, when all of a sudden one morning - certainly following some Windows updates - the Win7 machine can no longer see the WinXP machines, or the printer - and none of the WinXP machines can see the Win7 machine or the printer, though they can see each other just fine. Dang! I'm going to try the restore point trick and see if that fixes things. Thanks, Gustav. T On 6/17/2011 12:42 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. > > I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! > > Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. > > /gustav > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jon at tydda.plus.com Fri Jun 17 14:50:32 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:50:32 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> References: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <905969E8CF614C0EB7FD39BEBE4C1A6D@jt2c> Hmm. That makes me wonder if my problems are due to a windows update too... I use hibernate a lot - it's quicker to shut down the computer and restart from a hibernate than a complete shutdown. I was away for a week, get back and there are 25 updates to install. I did them and restarted... Since then, when I restart from a hibernate, I get a message telling me that my graphics driver has stopped working and I need to restart. I've downloaded the latest nVidia driver, but I still get the problem. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: 17 June 2011 20:45 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Aha! Perhaps that explains why my network is suddenly not working right. It was working perfectly, when all of a sudden one morning - certainly following some Windows updates - the Win7 machine can no longer see the WinXP machines, or the printer - and none of the WinXP machines can see the Win7 machine or the printer, though they can see each other just fine. Dang! I'm going to try the restore point trick and see if that fixes things. Thanks, Gustav. T On 6/17/2011 12:42 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. > > I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! > > Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. > > /gustav > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat Jun 18 07:54:37 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:54:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> References: <4DFBAEA0.1010209@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DFCA00D.2020605@torchlake.com> Uh - now I have another new happening. I haven't yet done any system restore and this morning the Win7 sees all of the network again. But, the WinXP machines see only the WinXP machines. Hmmmmmmm T On 6/17/2011 3:44 PM, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > Aha! Perhaps that explains why my network is suddenly not working > right. It was working perfectly, when all of a sudden one morning - > certainly following some Windows updates - the Win7 machine can no > longer see the WinXP machines, or the printer - and none of the WinXP > machines can see the Win7 machine or the printer, though they can see > each other just fine. Dang! I'm going to try the restore point trick > and see if that fixes things. Thanks, Gustav. > T > > On 6/17/2011 12:42 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: >> Hi all >> >> Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by >> workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, >> Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. >> >> I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a >> system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive >> was back! >> >> Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without >> finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. >> >> /gustav >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Jun 18 10:10:15 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:10:15 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Message-ID: Hi John and Tina et al This seems to be have been tracked down to the KB2536276 update. It breaks unencrypted Samba from at least Windows XP. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/why-is-update-kb2536276-causing-a-block-in/4b3536b7-b6b4-43fc-a973-c75ea478c7ca?tm=1308409382437&page=1 Don't know how that explains issues in network without Samba. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 17-06-2011 19:36 >>> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jun 18 11:58:40 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:58:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B36F88410D94C72B44F6D64F3E2BC99@creativesystemdesigns.com> Thanks for the link, Gustav. I have read about the new encryption standards set by Windows7 and only recently did a Linux update come out to fix the SMB connection. My greatest fear, in networks, is to ever lose connectivity especially as most of my client work is done remotely. To that end I setup RDP (works on Linux or Windows) to connect to all servers and most stations, also extensively use LogMeIn (Hamachi core), a few miscellaneous extras like UltraVNC (works on Linux or Windows) and NetMeeting (as it is by default on all XP stations) rounds out all the clients. For extra safety I use OpenVPN to encompass my entire network which works with any computer regardless of the OS or regardless of where the computers are situated (it will allow a laptop or a station for that matter, to connect to the network from anywhere in the world as if it was attached by a local network cable) and does it all with complete security (brilliant piece of code and I can not recommend it highly enough). The good thing is that the above protocols have remained static and are not affected by the whims or assertions of our OS designers. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:10 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi John and Tina et al This seems to be have been tracked down to the KB2536276 update. It breaks unencrypted Samba from at least Windows XP. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/w hy-is-update-kb2536276-causing-a-block-in/4b3536b7-b6b4-43fc-a973-c75ea478c7 ca?tm=1308409382437&page=1 Don't know how that explains issues in network without Samba. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 17-06-2011 19:36 >>> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Jun 18 12:13:40 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:13:40 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Message-ID: Hi Jim That sounds like a clever strategy. We've so far managed with RDP (workstations and servers) and VMware host console at the places where we are in control of the remote firewall. If not, LogMeIn (free version for commercial use) has never let us down and allows for access to a remote admin machine which can gain access to the client's non-Windows machines if needed. I'll make a note on OpenVPN though we haven't missed it features yet. A lot of stuff about the KB2536276 issue seems to pop up at the moment. It breaks connection to nearly all not-so-new Linux NAS units of any brand. I've persuaded Stu at Windows Server News to post about it hopefully to put some pressure on MS to provide an update or at least an official warning. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 18-06-2011 18:58 >>> Thanks for the link, Gustav. I have read about the new encryption standards set by Windows7 and only recently did a Linux update come out to fix the SMB connection. My greatest fear, in networks, is to ever lose connectivity especially as most of my client work is done remotely. To that end I setup RDP (works on Linux or Windows) to connect to all servers and most stations, also extensively use LogMeIn (Hamachi core), a few miscellaneous extras like UltraVNC (works on Linux or Windows) and NetMeeting (as it is by default on all XP stations) rounds out all the clients. For extra safety I use OpenVPN to encompass my entire network which works with any computer regardless of the OS or regardless of where the computers are situated (it will allow a laptop or a station for that matter, to connect to the network from anywhere in the world as if it was attached by a local network cable) and does it all with complete security (brilliant piece of code and I can not recommend it highly enough). The good thing is that the above protocols have remained static and are not affected by the whims or assertions of our OS designers. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:10 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi John and Tina et al This seems to be have been tracked down to the KB2536276 update. It breaks unencrypted Samba from at least Windows XP. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/w hy-is-update-kb2536276-causing-a-block-in/4b3536b7-b6b4-43fc-a973-c75ea478c7 ca?tm=1308409382437&page=1 Don't know how that explains issues in network without Samba. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 17-06-2011 19:36 >>> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jun 18 15:00:03 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:00:03 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6398D191544F4D1890870AE6A63D712F@creativesystemdesigns.com> That is great Gustav. If you hear any more details or solutions please post them and I will do the same. If you wish to try the OpenVPN route for your company or a client(s), I can help you in getting that WAN network up and running. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 10:14 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi Jim That sounds like a clever strategy. We've so far managed with RDP (workstations and servers) and VMware host console at the places where we are in control of the remote firewall. If not, LogMeIn (free version for commercial use) has never let us down and allows for access to a remote admin machine which can gain access to the client's non-Windows machines if needed. I'll make a note on OpenVPN though we haven't missed it features yet. A lot of stuff about the KB2536276 issue seems to pop up at the moment. It breaks connection to nearly all not-so-new Linux NAS units of any brand. I've persuaded Stu at Windows Server News to post about it hopefully to put some pressure on MS to provide an update or at least an official warning. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 18-06-2011 18:58 >>> Thanks for the link, Gustav. I have read about the new encryption standards set by Windows7 and only recently did a Linux update come out to fix the SMB connection. My greatest fear, in networks, is to ever lose connectivity especially as most of my client work is done remotely. To that end I setup RDP (works on Linux or Windows) to connect to all servers and most stations, also extensively use LogMeIn (Hamachi core), a few miscellaneous extras like UltraVNC (works on Linux or Windows) and NetMeeting (as it is by default on all XP stations) rounds out all the clients. For extra safety I use OpenVPN to encompass my entire network which works with any computer regardless of the OS or regardless of where the computers are situated (it will allow a laptop or a station for that matter, to connect to the network from anywhere in the world as if it was attached by a local network cable) and does it all with complete security (brilliant piece of code and I can not recommend it highly enough). The good thing is that the above protocols have remained static and are not affected by the whims or assertions of our OS designers. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:10 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi John and Tina et al This seems to be have been tracked down to the KB2536276 update. It breaks unencrypted Samba from at least Windows XP. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/w hy-is-update-kb2536276-causing-a-block-in/4b3536b7-b6b4-43fc-a973-c75ea478c7 ca?tm=1308409382437&page=1 Don't know how that explains issues in network without Samba. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 17-06-2011 19:36 >>> Hi Gustav, No I haven't (yet). But thanks for the heads up! I'll post back if any of my client's PCs in a similar situation have problems. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows June 2011 Update: Breaks network share? Hi all Suddenly a WinXP client machine couldn't see a NAS shared by workgroup it has been accessing for years. Other machines - Win7, Win2003, and WinXP - could still see the NAS. I investigated "everything" without finding a clue. Finally I did a system restore to Jun. 14th morning ... and voil?, the network drive was back! Anyone else have seen this? I've searched on Google hi-and-lo without finding anything at all which I find a bit strange. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Jun 18 19:27:44 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:27:44 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Multi-Core Processors Message-ID: <0CB5BAA70D414E24A10F2C27F8EF9CAF@HAL9005> Dear List(s): In order to take advantage of multi-core processors, do the applications need to be modified? Or is it taken care of by the operating system or the chip? IOW, I start an access app, open an mdb, then I retrieve my email from Outlook. Do those two apps run in separate cores theoretically improving the response time? Does the Word doc I open then run in a third core (of a presumably quad core processor). And if I open the file open or save dialog box in an app like an Office app, does that run in a separate core? I'm trying to decide if I need/should get dual, quad, or hex core processor in a new comp. MTIA Rocky From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 20 10:29:16 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:29:16 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Message-ID: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 From jon.tydda at lonza.com Mon Jun 20 10:34:49 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:34:49 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> Message-ID: Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or two back!!). Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jun 20 10:51:13 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:51:13 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> Message-ID: <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> ?3000 is about $4600 here...drives are so much more expensive there. Here they can be had for $79. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:35 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or two back!!). Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Jun 20 11:00:23 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:00:23 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <14DCA13F-D29B-45DD-8988-CDDD53DA46AC@tydda.plus.com> For a 2tb drive?? Buy as many as you can, you'll make a killing over here! Jon Sent from my iPhone 6 (Beta) On 20 Jun 2011, at 16:51, "Jim Lawrence" wrote: > ?3000 is about $4600 here...drives are so much more expensive there. Here > they can be had for $79. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - > Slough > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really > fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last > one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. > > For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one > Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data > drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are > a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or > two back!!). > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 > To: List; 'Off Topic' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? > He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the > new box. > > He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. > > (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will > pop up in the next couple days) > > TIA > > Rocky > > > _____ > > From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM > To: Rocky Smolin > Subject: Document > > > Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd > rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 > > Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) > > Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 > (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) > > Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) > > Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) > > Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) > > 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) > > > > Total: $789 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and > privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than > the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in > error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from > your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jun 20 11:09:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:09:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Rocky: If he does not want the drive but the new installation will be too time consuming, he can always image the old drive to the new computer drive. It is not guaranteed that the process will work but in the cases I have done this; there is a 90 percent conversion rate. The newer OSs are very flexible. If he wishes to follow this method simply add his old drive in the computer and set it to the boot drive and when the system has been configured and his old drive boot up, he can then export the revised boot drive image to other drive and switch the new drive to the boot drive. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 11:11:31 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:11:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Jon was talking about SSD drives Jim. You're getting a 2 TB SSD for $79 ? GK On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > ?3000 is about $4600 here...drives are so much more expensive there. Here > they can be had for $79. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - > Slough > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really > fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last > one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. > > For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one > Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data > drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are > a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or > two back!!). > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 > To: List; 'Off Topic' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. ?Any advice here? > He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the > new box. > > He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. > > (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will > pop up in the next couple days) > > TIA > > Rocky > > > ?_____ > > From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM > To: Rocky Smolin > Subject: Document > > > Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd > rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 > > Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) > > Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 > (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) > > Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) > > Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) > > Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) > > 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) > > > > Total: $789 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and > privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than > the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in > error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from > your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From df.waters at comcast.net Mon Jun 20 11:13:30 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:13:30 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> Message-ID: <007401cc2f64$ffd0a280$ff71e780$@comcast.net> Hi Rocky, Interesting case! 1) Don't attach a fan on the side - that will reduce the effectiveness of front to back airflow. 2) With a large fan on top, this PC may be noisy. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 20 11:21:29 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:21:29 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> <4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Thanks - will forward -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:10 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Hi Rocky: If he does not want the drive but the new installation will be too time consuming, he can always image the old drive to the new computer drive. It is not guaranteed that the process will work but in the cases I have done this; there is a 90 percent conversion rate. The newer OSs are very flexible. If he wishes to follow this method simply add his old drive in the computer and set it to the boot drive and when the system has been configured and his old drive boot up, he can then export the revised boot drive image to other drive and switch the new drive to the boot drive. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jun 20 12:03:53 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:03:53 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: <14DCA13F-D29B-45DD-8988-CDDD53DA46AC@tydda.plus.com> References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005> <86C9541B82914024B43795379948F0CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <14DCA13F-D29B-45DD-8988-CDDD53DA46AC@tydda.plus.com> Message-ID: <5D9BA1A65ABA4711A485E0A8F5820157@creativesystemdesigns.com> Sorry I missed the reference to SSD... Sky is still the limit on those babies. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:00 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp For a 2tb drive?? Buy as many as you can, you'll make a killing over here! Jon Sent from my iPhone 6 (Beta) On 20 Jun 2011, at 16:51, "Jim Lawrence" wrote: > ?3000 is about $4600 here...drives are so much more expensive there. Here > they can be had for $79. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - > Slough > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > Tell him not to bother taking the old hard drive out unless it's really > fast. You'll want a large cache on the drive, as well as high rpm (my last > one was 10k)/access speeds, 8gb is good, 16gb is better. > > For a really fast pc, you might want to look into two hard drives - one > Solid State Drive for the C drive (say 250gb), and a normal one for the Data > drive. SSDs are faster, quieter, and run cooler than normal drives, but are > a little expensive at the moment (I saw a 2TB for sale at ?3000 a month or > two back!!). > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > Sent: 20 June 2011 16:29 > To: List; 'Off Topic' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp > > After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? > He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the > new box. > > He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. > > (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will > pop up in the next couple days) > > TIA > > Rocky > > > _____ > > From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM > To: Rocky Smolin > Subject: Document > > > Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd > rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 > > Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) > > Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 > (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) > > Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) > > Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) > > Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) > > 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) > > > > Total: $789 > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and > privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than > the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in > error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from > your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 20 12:11:00 2011 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:11:00 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005><4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hi Rocky, Your son might be interested in this ZDNet article. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/building-a-barebones-budget-gaming-pc-for-under-550/13363?tag=nl.e539 Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rocky Smolin" Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:21 AM To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Cc: Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Thanks - will forward -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:10 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Hi Rocky: If he does not want the drive but the new installation will be too time consuming, he can always image the old drive to the new computer drive. It is not guaranteed that the process will work but in the cases I have done this; there is a 90 percent conversion rate. The newer OSs are very flexible. If he wishes to follow this method simply add his old drive in the computer and set it to the boot drive and when the system has been configured and his old drive boot up, he can then export the revised boot drive image to other drive and switch the new drive to the boot drive. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jun 20 12:26:51 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:26:51 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp In-Reply-To: References: <98EEEB6C04284486A3768A20813CDD2E@HAL9005><4223758D6C1845F7B53C19820F84CB44@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <9CC5D3293EAB4B6E85E2A4399BA1ECFF@HAL9005> Bill: Good one! Thanks. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:11 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Hi Rocky, Your son might be interested in this ZDNet article. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/building-a-barebones-budget-gaming-pc-for -under-550/13363?tag=nl.e539 Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rocky Smolin" Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:21 AM To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Cc: Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Thanks - will forward -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:10 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp Hi Rocky: If he does not want the drive but the new installation will be too time consuming, he can always image the old drive to the new computer drive. It is not guaranteed that the process will work but in the cases I have done this; there is a 90 percent conversion rate. The newer OSs are very flexible. If he wishes to follow this method simply add his old drive in the computer and set it to the boot drive and when the system has been configured and his old drive boot up, he can then export the revised boot drive image to other drive and switch the new drive to the boot drive. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:29 AM To: List; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a New Comp After a trip to Fry's Noah has spec'd a new comp to build. Any advice here? He's going to take the HD from his current box (7200rpm) and put it in the new box. He's doing some on-line gaming so the graphics card is important. (Myself - I think I'm going with the Dell i7 - ~$1000 but maybe a deal will pop up in the next couple days) TIA Rocky _____ From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:heedleblambeedle at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:35 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: Document Totals to $789 with the ram I want, but if I can get DDR5 10600 then I'd rather go for that. If so, the total will likely be $809-$819 Case: CM HAF 912 ($60) Motherboard: GA-Z86MA-D2H-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#ov) ($99) Processor: Core i7 Gen II, quad core (LGA1155) ($300) Graphics card: GTX 560 Ti - 500W ($230) Power supply: 600W (missing model) ($50) 8GB RAM: http://www.frys.com/product/6522023 (hopefully) ($50) Total: $789 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jun 20 12:35:23 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:35:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows7 issues In-Reply-To: <6398D191544F4D1890870AE6A63D712F@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <6398D191544F4D1890870AE6A63D712F@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Has anyone else been having client and personal issues with their Windows7 updates? I have been out on a number of calls recently as client's Windows7 computers have been losing their DNS/Host/Network setting/list. Just came back from a client who could no longer access their upline company...found the DNS setting were gone and I am sure it was not the client. If it was just a one-off incident I would suspect a power bump but 8 clients is too much of a coincidence. On another couple of clients I had to key in all their servers manually as their host lists were just gone. Windows would not do its network search properly but 'Net View' at the command prompt works fine.(?) It appears to be a specific MS update that has been racking havoc. Anyone else with similar experiences? Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 06:13:30 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:13:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Question Message-ID: Is there a way to display unread messages only? I've got about 20 unread messages and it's very tiresome to page through Older and Older and Older looking for them. I want to display all the unread messages regardless of how old they are. TIA, Arthur From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Jun 22 06:38:49 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:38:49 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E01D449.14605.5D0928C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Just select all read mails and Archive them. You can still see them by Selecting All Mail instead of Inbox. Keep doing that as you read them in future, -- Stuart On 22 Jun 2011 at 7:13, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Is there a way to display unread messages only? I've got about 20 > unread messages and it's very tiresome to page through Older and Older > and Older looking for them. I want to display all the unread messages > regardless of how old they are. > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 07:48:25 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:48:25 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Question In-Reply-To: <4E01D449.14605.5D0928C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4E01D449.14605.5D0928C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Right after sending my message, I discovered another way of doing it. There's a little dropdown on the left above the message pane and you can select All Unread there. Presto. I should have known the command would be there somewhere. But you're right. I really should archive all the old stuff. It goes all the way back to when I first installed Gmail. A. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Just select all read mails and Archive them. You can still see them by > Selecting All Mail > instead of Inbox. Keep doing that as you read them in future, > > -- > Stuart > > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Jun 22 07:56:22 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:56:22 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Question In-Reply-To: References: , <4E01D449.14605.5D0928C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, Message-ID: <4E01E676.12959.617954C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Yep, use the same dropdown to select " read" and then click on archive. -- Stuart On 22 Jun 2011 at 8:48, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Right after sending my message, I discovered another way of doing it. > There's a little dropdown on the left above the message pane and you > can select All Unread there. Presto. I should have known the command > would be there somewhere. > > But you're right. I really should archive all the old stuff. It goes > all the way back to when I first installed Gmail. > > A. > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Stuart McLachlan > wrote: > > > Just select all read mails and Archive them. You can still see them > > by Selecting All Mail instead of Inbox. Keep doing that as you read > > them in future, > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jun 26 08:45:04 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:45:04 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Message-ID: <16E5C62EDD24434E9B8B6D165FF1A540@HAL9005> I didn't know my new comp - a desktop - came with wireless. Imagine my surprise when, during the start up, it detected my network - usually I don't connect a new machine to the internet until I've got AV and a firewall loaded. But I put cabled anyway to an open port on the router. SO I've got two connections - the wireless at 65 Mbps and the hard wire at 100. Question is - does the OS pick the faster one? Or how does it decide which one to use? And can you/need to force it to use the faster connection? I'm transferring several gigabytes of stuff from old comp to new - so I'm curious. MTIA Rocky From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jun 26 10:31:43 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:31:43 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless In-Reply-To: <16E5C62EDD24434E9B8B6D165FF1A540@HAL9005> References: <16E5C62EDD24434E9B8B6D165FF1A540@HAL9005> Message-ID: <21C504349D5D409C800C57A86F1785D9@creativesystemdesigns.com> On my computer which ever connection is the fastest appears to be the connection that assumes primary position. So if both connections are available then the wired connection is always first. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:45 AM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless I didn't know my new comp - a desktop - came with wireless. Imagine my surprise when, during the start up, it detected my network - usually I don't connect a new machine to the internet until I've got AV and a firewall loaded. But I put cabled anyway to an open port on the router. SO I've got two connections - the wireless at 65 Mbps and the hard wire at 100. Question is - does the OS pick the faster one? Or how does it decide which one to use? And can you/need to force it to use the faster connection? I'm transferring several gigabytes of stuff from old comp to new - so I'm curious. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Jun 26 16:41:59 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:41:59 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Adobe Lightroom 3 Message-ID: <114CC9FEBB774C8EA963194E0977A56E@jt2c> Hi all I'm hoping that someone else out there uses Adobe Lightroom 3 - Because I've got a lens that distorts straight lines a lot, and I can't work out how to apply the correction manually, rather than to each individual picture in turn (especially to the current album of over 600 photos...). Does anyone have any ideas?? Jon From jon at tydda.plus.com Sun Jun 26 16:50:50 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:50:50 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Adobe Lightroom 3 Message-ID: Typical! Just as when doing a crossword, and I read the clue out to someone else, and I immediately think of the answer, as soon as I ask the lists, I find it :-) If anyone's interested, you do it like this: Click on All Photographs in the Catalog panel in the Library module, and then doing a metadata filter using the library filter bar to find all images shot with one of the lenses. Then select all of them (ctl/cmd A). In the Develop module turn Auto Sync on (the switch next to the Sync button at the bottom right.) Then go down to the Lens Corrections panel and apply your correction. It will be applied to all of your selected images. Do this for the rest of your lenses. Finally, turn Auto Sync off by clicking back on the switch. You may also want to set the correction as the default for when you import new images. For each lens: find an image, fix just the lens issue (hit reset beforehand to make sure you haven't made any other changes), go to Develop>Set Default Settings>Update. Jon _____ From: Jon Tydda [mailto:jon at tydda.plus.com] Sent: 26 June 2011 22:42 To: 'Off Topic'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Adobe Lightroom 3 Hi all I'm hoping that someone else out there uses Adobe Lightroom 3 - Because I've got a lens that distorts straight lines a lot, and I can't work out how to apply the correction manually, rather than to each individual picture in turn (especially to the current album of over 600 photos...). Does anyone have any ideas?? Jon From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Mon Jun 27 04:26:00 2011 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:26:00 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Adobe Lightroom 3 References: Message-ID: yes, I'm using Lightroom 3, but as I see, it's too late Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Tydda" To: "'Off Topic'" ; "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Adobe Lightroom 3 > Typical! > > Just as when doing a crossword, and I read the clue out to someone else, > and > I immediately think of the answer, as soon as I ask the lists, I find it > :-) > > If anyone's interested, you do it like this: > > Click on All Photographs in the Catalog panel in the Library module, and > then doing a metadata filter using the library filter bar to find all > images > shot with one of the lenses. Then select all of them (ctl/cmd A). In the > Develop module turn Auto Sync on (the switch next to the Sync button at > the > bottom right.) Then go down to the Lens Corrections panel and apply your > correction. It will be applied to all of your selected images. Do this > for > the rest of your lenses. Finally, turn Auto Sync off by clicking back on > the switch. > You may also want to set the correction as the default for when you import > new images. For each lens: find an image, fix just the lens issue (hit > reset beforehand to make sure you haven't made any other changes), go to > Develop>Set Default Settings>Update. > > > Jon > > _____ > > From: Jon Tydda [mailto:jon at tydda.plus.com] > Sent: 26 June 2011 22:42 > To: 'Off Topic'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Adobe Lightroom 3 > > > Hi all > > I'm hoping that someone else out there uses Adobe Lightroom 3 - Because > I've > got a lens that distorts straight lines a lot, and I can't work out how to > apply the correction manually, rather than to each individual picture in > turn (especially to the current album of over 600 photos...). > > Does anyone have any ideas?? > > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 14:28:15 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:28:15 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows7 issues In-Reply-To: References: <6398D191544F4D1890870AE6A63D712F@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hello Jim, I am working on a Vista machine that was working fine until recently, I could not access network settings at all. I did a system restore and all is back to normal. Not sure what caused it. What I am worrying about now is whether I can safely give this machine back now - will MS 'break' it again? or does the system restore cleverly mark certain updates bad and not attempt them a second time? FWIW, it is running Vista Home Premium SP 1 thanks Mark On 20 June 2011 18:35, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Has anyone else been having client and personal issues with their Windows7 > updates? > > I have been out on a number of calls recently as client's Windows7 > computers > have been losing their DNS/Host/Network setting/list. Just came back from a > client who could no longer access their upline company...found the DNS > setting were gone and I am sure it was not the client. If it was just a > one-off incident I would suspect a power bump but 8 clients is too much of > a > coincidence. > > On another couple of clients I had to key in all their servers manually as > their host lists were just gone. Windows would not do its network search > properly but 'Net View' at the command prompt works fine.(?) It appears to > be a specific MS update that has been racking havoc. > > Anyone else with similar experiences? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jun 30 19:38:03 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:38:03 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers Message-ID: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> Dear List: The new comp came wit a nice set of Bose speakers. My desk now has three pairs of speakers on it - one for each active comp. I used to use a kvm switch to share display/mouse/keyboard. Is there something like that where you could share one set of good speakers with several comps? TIA Rocky From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jun 30 19:41:53 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:41:53 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers In-Reply-To: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> References: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> Message-ID: <2C475F9A33764C1BBE637D7753534700@HAL9007> I see the Y splitter thing - trip to Radio Shack (ugh. To do 3 comps I suppose I could split a splitter. If you just want to play mp3s this looks like a cool app: http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-share-speaker-between-multi ple-computers-over-a-network/ R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:38 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers Dear List: The new comp came wit a nice set of Bose speakers. My desk now has three pairs of speakers on it - one for each active comp. I used to use a kvm switch to share display/mouse/keyboard. Is there something like that where you could share one set of good speakers with several comps? TIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Thu Jun 30 20:44:29 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:44:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers In-Reply-To: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> References: <4CD67A41F8D4494390F640AB0E5C9B29@HAL9007> Message-ID: <010a01cc3790$6b95f5f0$42c1e1d0$@winhaven.net> My KVM has a speaker, mic and USB device sharing option. ATEN brand 8 holer. My old one did too - I think it was ioGear brand 4 holer or something like that. I connect a little speaker to it but keep my big set connected to my the PC which I play my music with. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:38 PM To: List Subject: [dba-Tech] multiple speakers speakers speakers Dear List: The new comp came wit a nice set of Bose speakers. My desk now has three pairs of speakers on it - one for each active comp. I used to use a kvm switch to share display/mouse/keyboard. Is there something like that where you could share one set of good speakers with several comps? TIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com