From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 1 05:07:50 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 03:07:50 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 2 In-Reply-To: <006801cc07b3$0f2a42b0$2d7ec810$@winhaven.net> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <00cf01cc05fa$242773f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> <4DBC14DB.3040907@torchlake.com> <08B453AF0FE949CD91C24EB01029178E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <003a01cc0763$6090a270$21b1e750$@winhaven.net> <862423AC772E4B3DA9885622E97CB8A9@creativesystemdesigns.com> <006801cc07b3$0f2a42b0$2d7ec810$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <7C83D8AD17DE4DF8953D2BDBB2F4D8D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Ha ha ha... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:52 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 2 I understand what you're saying. I just wasn't sure if you knew what Spinrite was for (hey, not everyone uses the same tools). Just as some of us use HiJack This! and some use Autoruns. Please do post if you find discussions on these. I've probably read them before but it never hurts to read them again as this is stuff I have to deal with constantly, just as you probably have to :o( -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:12 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 2 True, but Spinrite does not clear any data as you said and once the OS starts up again, if a piece of malware is/was 'hidden' in some position on the hard drive, it is just re-tagged as a bad track and the app carries on. There was an article on the whole process of these new super bugs but I can not even remember when and where I read it, but I will definitely post it if it appears up. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun May 1 10:40:14 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 11:40:14 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 3 In-Reply-To: <00cf01cc05fa$242773f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <00cf01cc05fa$242773f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> Well, it is really coming down to a complete start over situation. Saving as many user files as I can before the complete makeover of the computer. But, I did find that the RECYCLER worm was at least one of the problems. This worm is generally transmitted by USB device. The kids bring stuff home from school on USB drives, and one of those must have been infected. The thing creates a folder called RECYCLER in the root of the drive. Still, that was not everything. Vundo was also a culprit, as was whatever PUM.Disabled.SecurityCenter is. So, today, we reconstruct that computer from the ground up. Thanks for all the suggestions and guidance. I really appreciate it. T John Bartow wrote: > Ditto on that > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:13 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here > > Better to grab a copy of ProcessExplorer and use that. I've seen systems > with TaskMgr > hijacked that I could still get into with ProcExp. > > It tells you al lot more about what is going on. > > It also lets you suspend a bunch of processes and then close then down one > at a time. It's the only way to beat those nasties that run several > instances under different names, all of which watch for each other and > restart any that are shut down. > > -- > Stuart > > On 28 Apr 2011 at 11:25, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > >> Check the taskmanager and view what Processes are >> going on... >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From gustav at cactus.dk Sun May 1 11:42:30 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 18:42:30 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System Message-ID: Hi all Anyone having experience with DFS across a WAN, like ADSL? /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 1 15:10:30 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:10:30 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36ED198842BE4A5393E4A30E5F7333D2@creativesystemdesigns.com> No, but I will send out a call to my Greek group and get back to you. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System Hi all Anyone having experience with DFS across a WAN, like ADSL? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 1 15:11:56 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:11:56 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System In-Reply-To: <36ED198842BE4A5393E4A30E5F7333D2@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <36ED198842BE4A5393E4A30E5F7333D2@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <3EA09CADDD9242E7B148A49EFF6BF86C@creativesystemdesigns.com> (I mean geek...it way just too close to lunch) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:11 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System No, but I will send out a call to my Greek group and get back to you. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System Hi all Anyone having experience with DFS across a WAN, like ADSL? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 2 10:17:30 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 08:17:30 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The great Amazon Cloud crash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F6EC6DA70174A80BB2E2380568C5F50@creativesystemdesigns.com> After all the smoke has clearer and the Amazon Cloud web services have been restored and due to a great deal of public pressure Amazon has presented an offical explanation of the cause and reasons. http://tinyurl.com/68jg8an Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 2 11:07:36 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:07:36 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Investing in stocks In-Reply-To: <5F6EC6DA70174A80BB2E2380568C5F50@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <5F6EC6DA70174A80BB2E2380568C5F50@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <5C7F3D2141F74950BAC58A2F1C43EA2C@creativesystemdesigns.com> For all you people of there that love dabbling in the market and are not completely turned off by tech stocks, may I recommend investing in the following options that are going public in the next little while: http://tinyurl.com/4hsoqnz This is why the west coast market is great and the east coast sucks. ;-) Jim From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon May 2 14:51:54 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 15:51:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Message-ID: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> Hey John, I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and installed it with no problem. The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on this. Thanks, T From gustav at cactus.dk Mon May 2 15:38:50 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:38:50 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Message-ID: Hi Tina Eh .. .. didn't you just answer your question yourself? /gustav >>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 02-05-2011 21:51 >>> Hey John, I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and installed it with no problem. The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on this. Thanks, T From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon May 2 16:56:53 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:56:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict - solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DBF28A5.4070908@torchlake.com> Hi Gustav, As it happens, yes I did. But, I still don't get why my original setup file doesn't work. It works fine in my WinXP machines. But, yes, I did use the new download and now all is well. I was just logging on to tell John that I'm okay now, when I saw your note. Thanks, T Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Tina > > Eh .. .. didn't you just answer your question yourself? > > /gustav > > > >>>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 02-05-2011 21:51 >>> >>>> > Hey John, > > I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows > balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with > this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. > > Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and > installed it with no problem. > > The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup > program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a > fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on > this. > > Thanks, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From john at winhaven.net Mon May 2 17:33:50 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:33:50 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> Hi Tina, I don't think your original version will install on Windows 7. I haven't run into this because I download the latest version each time the release one so I'm starting without the need for program updates. Vipre: http://go.sunbeltsoftware.com/?linkid=411 Vipre Premium: http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=405 CounterSpy: http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=410 I also manually download the latest definitions every day or two so that I don't have wait for the full definition to download for each install I do. But I do this multiple times a week so you may not need to do that. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/Definitions/ FWIW I don't order the CDs for very much anymore. They're usually out of date when you need them. I just make sure I have a copy of my license rights stored where I can find it. HTH John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:52 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Hey John, I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and installed it with no problem. The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on this. Thanks, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon May 2 17:36:11 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:36:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict - solved In-Reply-To: <4DBF28A5.4070908@torchlake.com> References: <4DBF28A5.4070908@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <003401cc0919$56e06280$04a12780$@winhaven.net> We just crossed emails ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict - solved Hi Gustav, As it happens, yes I did. But, I still don't get why my original setup file doesn't work. It works fine in my WinXP machines. But, yes, I did use the new download and now all is well. I was just logging on to tell John that I'm okay now, when I saw your note. Thanks, T Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Tina > > Eh .. .. didn't you just answer your question yourself? > > /gustav > > > >>>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 02-05-2011 21:51 >>> >>>> > Hey John, > > I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows > balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with > this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. > > Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and > installed it with no problem. > > The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre > setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week > was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your > guidance on this. > > Thanks, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon May 2 19:21:08 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:21:08 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <6E0264AE5FE04B8DBC1557EAD63DAF3C@HAL9005> John: I switched to Microsoft Security Essentials. Seems to work OK. But I have no way of knowing because I almost never get viruses. Just clean livin' I guess. I switched from AVG. Anything to recommend Vipre over MSE? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:34 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Hi Tina, I don't think your original version will install on Windows 7. I haven't run into this because I download the latest version each time the release one so I'm starting without the need for program updates. Vipre: http://go.sunbeltsoftware.com/?linkid=411 Vipre Premium: http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=405 CounterSpy: http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=410 I also manually download the latest definitions every day or two so that I don't have wait for the full definition to download for each install I do. But I do this multiple times a week so you may not need to do that. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/Definitions/ FWIW I don't order the CDs for very much anymore. They're usually out of date when you need them. I just make sure I have a copy of my license rights stored where I can find it. HTH John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:52 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Hey John, I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and installed it with no problem. The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on this. Thanks, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon May 2 21:18:12 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 21:18:12 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <6E0264AE5FE04B8DBC1557EAD63DAF3C@HAL9005> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> <6E0264AE5FE04B8DBC1557EAD63DAF3C@HAL9005> Message-ID: <004a01cc0938$5a646810$0f2d3830$@winhaven.net> Hi Rocky, I've been testing MSE and holding my breath hoping that I could eventually start recommending MSE over Avira Free AV. It has made good gains both in detection rates and resource usage but unfortunately it recently got whapped pretty bad with an infection that caused a lot of problems. But IMO you are still better off with MSE than AVG. Have you noticed that your PCs is a little more responsive since you switched? For someone that never gets infected though, what can I say? Well, I guess I can say "where were you during our discussion on the percentage of infected PCs discussion on OT? ;o) Just in case something got through that MSE didn't even notice I would recommend that you occasionally scan with VipreRescue (a free command line scanner and removal tool version of Vipre - completely non-preventative though). It's simple to use - it copies itself to a folder and runs a full scan and removes anything it finds. It runs in a command window. If you care to, you can browse through the log file it creates. And also with MalwareBytes. Its pretty simple to use too and is very good at detecting and removing the scareware/scamware Trojans, etc. http://live.sunbeltsoftware.com/Download/ http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html ?part=dl-10804572&subj=dl&tag=button As far as benefits of Vipre over MSE: Better preventative detection rates Less CPU/RAM resource usage US based technical support for problems and malware removal (nothing is perfect - so it is nice to have someone you can understand clean up anything that gets through). Benefits of MSE: Its free (Vipre costs $30 for one and $50 for all of the computers in your house) HTH John B From tinanfields at torchlake.com Tue May 3 06:26:30 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 07:26:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <4DBFE666.6080401@torchlake.com> Hi John, I do keep a copy of my Vipre registration handy. What I haven't mastered is going to the site and downloading fresh versions under my license. The web site changes enough between my visit times that I don't know where anything is. So, I have simply downloaded as though for a trial, done my install, and added my registration. There must be a better way. Please instruct me - I am trainable. It's time for me to get serious about being an affiliate of Sunbelt Software, and putting information about it on my web site (and, updating my web site, for that matter)! Too many irons in the fire! But, one does have to earn a living. Thanks for your friendly guidance, T John Bartow wrote: > Hi Tina, > I don't think your original version will install on Windows 7. I haven't run > into this because I download the latest version each time the release one so > I'm starting without the need for program updates. > Vipre: > http://go.sunbeltsoftware.com/?linkid=411 > > Vipre Premium: > http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=405 > > CounterSpy: > http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=410 > > > I also manually download the latest definitions every day or two so that I > don't have wait for the full definition to download for each install I do. > But I do this multiple times a week so you may not need to do that. > http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/Definitions/ > > > FWIW I don't order the CDs for very much anymore. They're usually out of > date when you need them. I just make sure I have a copy of my license rights > stored where I can find it. > > HTH > John B > > > From john at winhaven.net Tue May 3 11:12:40 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:12:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <4DBFE666.6080401@torchlake.com> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> <4DBFE666.6080401@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <004e01cc09ac$ed7b56d0$c8720470$@winhaven.net> Yes the web site is going through major changes since GFI bought Sunbelt Software. GFI obviously has a lot more marketing experience and is marketing more aggressively than Sunbelt ever did. I see ads for Vipre all over the place. But the links I posted are the same links as a couple of years ago. The only link they've changer (well removed actually) was the one to the "latest definition file" which was really handy because I never had to go to a web site to download the latest definitions just run a shortcut command that downloaded the file. I raised a stink about it but apparently I'm the only one that ever used it because no one on the forums chimed in with support for my plea to reinstate it. Yea, the affiliate thing has changed a lot too since GFI took over. They had their own affiliate management methods. I haven't updated any of my web links since so I don't even know if I'm getting credit for anything. Not the point of me doing it anyway 99% of the links I've posted over the years got me nothing but these days, a little kickback doesn't hurt ;o) You always welcome my friend! John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:27 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Hi John, I do keep a copy of my Vipre registration handy. What I haven't mastered is going to the site and downloading fresh versions under my license. The web site changes enough between my visit times that I don't know where anything is. So, I have simply downloaded as though for a trial, done my install, and added my registration. There must be a better way. Please instruct me - I am trainable. It's time for me to get serious about being an affiliate of Sunbelt Software, and putting information about it on my web site (and, updating my web site, for that matter)! Too many irons in the fire! But, one does have to earn a living. Thanks for your friendly guidance, T John Bartow wrote: > Hi Tina, > I don't think your original version will install on Windows 7. I > haven't run into this because I download the latest version each time > the release one so I'm starting without the need for program updates. > Vipre: > http://go.sunbeltsoftware.com/?linkid=411 > > Vipre Premium: > http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=405 > > CounterSpy: > http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=410 > > > I also manually download the latest definitions every day or two so > that I don't have wait for the full definition to download for each install I do. > But I do this multiple times a week so you may not need to do that. > http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/Definitions/ > > > FWIW I don't order the CDs for very much anymore. They're usually out > of date when you need them. I just make sure I have a copy of my > license rights stored where I can find it. > > HTH > John B > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue May 3 13:24:39 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:24:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds Message-ID: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color carts. What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. What's your top choices? Rocky From df.waters at comcast.net Tue May 3 13:32:52 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:32:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer Message-ID: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net> I use a Canon Pixma MX870. Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, wireless/wired. Current $130. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color carts. What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. What's your top choices? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 3 14:12:08 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:12:08 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds In-Reply-To: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> References: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> Message-ID: <0030BB01B1CD46D5854D5F0A317D85FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> I could suggest a Canon MP540. It has two paper sources (one can print card stock and photo quality paper), scanning and copying capabilities, full colour, two black reservoirs, one for photo colour reproduction and one large black-ink reservoir for black and white printing. It is not a heavy duty office work horse but it is really cheap...how cheap; I do not know, but bought mine for $52. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:25 AM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color carts. What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. What's your top choices? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue May 3 14:14:26 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:14:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net> References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. Scanning is a big plus. I'm not faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. OK, good call. All-in-one. I've had a few Pixma's here. Mostly because every time I went to buy a flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've been reliable. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer I use a Canon Pixma MX870. Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, wireless/wired. Current $130. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color carts. What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. What's your top choices? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Tue May 3 15:16:45 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:16:45 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net> <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> Message-ID: I thought I remembered you saying you had a stack of spare printers in the garage. I was wondering why you wouldn't send him one of those. I've bought exactly 3 printers since 1990. All HPs. . Current one was bought in 2004. Works fine. Windows Vista and 7 say they don't have the perfect driver for it but they still work fine with it. The drivers for those OS's won't let me use some of the printers features like Duplex and the dedicated Photo Paper paper hopper. It connects via ethernet to the router which I like quite a lot verses connecting directly to the computer itself. It's a wired connection. But there are wireless ones now too. How does it connect? is another thing to consider. My current HP uses pretty expensive cartridges. But they last a long time. I replace them about once a year and I do print quite a bit. It's a photo printer so it's got 2 color cartridges plus a Black one. I pay about $100 for a full set. They might last more than a year though now that I think about it. With the HP cartridges you get new printer heads when you get new cartridges too. But that is why they cost more I suppose. Here is mine - again, I bought it in 2004 http://reviews.cnet.com/inkjet-printers/hp-photosmart-8450/4505-3156_7-31006678.html Available starting at $650 it says. Probably not worth that much Good luck with your choice. GK On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. ?Scanning is a big plus. ?I'm not > faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. > > OK, good call. ?All-in-one. > > I've had a few Pixma's here. ? Mostly because every time I went to ?buy a > flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've been > reliable. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer > > I use a Canon Pixma MX870. ?Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink cartridges, > duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, wireless/wired. ?Current $130. > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-key > words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM > To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds > > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. ?So I said I'd shop one > up for him and have it shipped. ?Initially survey reveals that there are > approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. ?Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or > third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much > less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have > (do they even make mono printers any more?) ?which means separate color > carts. > > What else? ?8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger > Direct, etc. ?Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Tue May 3 15:32:31 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 15:32:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds In-Reply-To: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> References: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4DC0665F.5020808@earthlink.net> We've had two Brother MFCs for several years, a 445 and a 665, each for about $100, each still prints, scans, photocopies and faxes flawlessly. 3P cartridges come in at $1-$2 each and work fine. I think the current versions of these models are MFC-795 at $110 amd MFCJ265W at $100. PB ----- On 5/3/2011 1:24 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one > up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are > approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or > third party, 3) low duty - certainly<100 sheets per day - usually much > less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have > (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color > carts. > > What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger > Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue May 3 15:42:48 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 06:42:48 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net>, <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4DC068C8.5038.1737BD40@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> No particular suggestions, but for someone at college, keep it as small a footprint as possible and look at wireless/bluetooth connectivity. -- Stuart On 3 May 2011 at 12:14, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. Scanning is a big plus. I'm not > faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. > > OK, good call. All-in-one. > > I've had a few Pixma's here. Mostly because every time I went to > buy a flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've > been reliable. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer > > I use a Canon Pixma MX870. Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink > cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, > wireless/wired. Current $130. > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&fie > ld-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds > > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd > shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals > that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM > or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually > much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good > thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means > separate color carts. > > What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, > Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue May 3 15:47:20 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:47:20 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net><5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> Message-ID: <92404B7F311F44F385597433171912D9@HAL9005> I didn't want to send him a used one. Probably cost $50 to ship anyway. The MX870 is $130 including shipping and the carts ARE cheap. I've got one good one in the garage - a Samsung color laser but the cartridges are so expensive I don't use it. I've got two for my use - Samsung CLP-300 color laser and a Lexmark all-in-one wireless. Pundit has an old canon that refuses to die and Noah's got a newer one at his desk. The rest have been recycled. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:17 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer I thought I remembered you saying you had a stack of spare printers in the garage. I was wondering why you wouldn't send him one of those. I've bought exactly 3 printers since 1990. All HPs. . Current one was bought in 2004. Works fine. Windows Vista and 7 say they don't have the perfect driver for it but they still work fine with it. The drivers for those OS's won't let me use some of the printers features like Duplex and the dedicated Photo Paper paper hopper. It connects via ethernet to the router which I like quite a lot verses connecting directly to the computer itself. It's a wired connection. But there are wireless ones now too. How does it connect? is another thing to consider. My current HP uses pretty expensive cartridges. But they last a long time. I replace them about once a year and I do print quite a bit. It's a photo printer so it's got 2 color cartridges plus a Black one. I pay about $100 for a full set. They might last more than a year though now that I think about it. With the HP cartridges you get new printer heads when you get new cartridges too. But that is why they cost more I suppose. Here is mine - again, I bought it in 2004 http://reviews.cnet.com/inkjet-printers/hp-photosmart-8450/4505-3156_7-31006 678.html Available starting at $650 it says. Probably not worth that much Good luck with your choice. GK On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. ?Scanning is a big plus. ?I'm not > faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. > > OK, good call. ?All-in-one. > > I've had a few Pixma's here. ? Mostly because every time I went to ? > buy a flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've > been reliable. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer > > I use a Canon Pixma MX870. ?Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink > cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, wireless/wired. ?Current $130. > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&fie > ld-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM > To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds > > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. ?So I said I'd > shop one up for him and have it shipped. ?Initially survey reveals > that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. ?Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM > or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually > much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good > thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) ?which means > separate color carts. > > What else? ?8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, > Tiger Direct, etc. ?Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue May 3 16:25:11 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 14:25:11 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: <4DC068C8.5038.1737BD40@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net>, <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> <4DC068C8.5038.1737BD40@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <3DFD55B7D70E4391BBB344DDD276BADA@HAL9005> Yes, good point - smaller is better. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:43 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer No particular suggestions, but for someone at college, keep it as small a footprint as possible and look at wireless/bluetooth connectivity. -- Stuart On 3 May 2011 at 12:14, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. Scanning is a big plus. I'm not > faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. > > OK, good call. All-in-one. > > I've had a few Pixma's here. Mostly because every time I went to > buy a flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've > been reliable. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer > > I use a Canon Pixma MX870. Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink > cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, > wireless/wired. Current $130. > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&fie > ld-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds > > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd > shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals > that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM > or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually > much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good > thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means > separate color carts. > > What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, > Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu May 5 07:35:05 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 14:35:05 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Message-ID: Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav From erbachs at gmail.com Thu May 5 09:34:34 2011 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:34:34 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server Message-ID: Dear Group, The network guy who set up my client's Windows 2003 Server also set up remote access. He used a public DNS outfit to create a domain name which is what we use for VPN. Then he also set up one of the network adapters with an internal IP address of 10.0.0.15...so when one runs Windows Remote Desktop, the IP address to type in is 10.0.0.15. Fine. This all works. The only problem is (well, not the ONLY problem...the network guy went to jail and has been incommunicado since...and I have only a simple knowledge of network protocols and such) that the VPN setup isn't set up properly. I say that because this morning I discovered that one can simply fire up Windows Remote Desktop, type in the real IP address, and log right in. (One additional problem is that the owner of the company has network administrator rights...but NO PASSWORD!!??!!!) So my question is, what do I have to do to ensure that Remote Desktop access ONLY goes through the VPN? Do we have to set up the VPN from the server itself? I thought that that had been done, but now I'm not so sure. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 5 11:14:03 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:14:03 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5035E1B2F1604280AFA7FE768B4FB1C5@creativesystemdesigns.com> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu May 5 11:33:20 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 18:33:20 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Message-ID: Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 5 11:47:13 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:47:13 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Steve: You will note that you can only access the VPN via a computer setup to run over the VPN. I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. The VPN just extends that capability to computers that may be remote. Check also that the VPN station does not also supply the username and password to ease access. The environment in which you describe is fairly typical for a lot of companies. In one company, once logged into the VPN, a person can see every node in 40 states and 12 provinces and you could easily print an invoice to some printer in Georgia. Though this is not a very secure system it is fairly common. You should be able to go into the VPN client on the stations and remove the auto login feature. For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the product it is standard in its features and scope. Jim PS First backup anything you are fixing as it can be easy to lose important credentials. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:35 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server Dear Group, The network guy who set up my client's Windows 2003 Server also set up remote access. He used a public DNS outfit to create a domain name which is what we use for VPN. Then he also set up one of the network adapters with an internal IP address of 10.0.0.15...so when one runs Windows Remote Desktop, the IP address to type in is 10.0.0.15. Fine. This all works. The only problem is (well, not the ONLY problem...the network guy went to jail and has been incommunicado since...and I have only a simple knowledge of network protocols and such) that the VPN setup isn't set up properly. I say that because this morning I discovered that one can simply fire up Windows Remote Desktop, type in the real IP address, and log right in. (One additional problem is that the owner of the company has network administrator rights...but NO PASSWORD!!??!!!) So my question is, what do I have to do to ensure that Remote Desktop access ONLY goes through the VPN? Do we have to set up the VPN from the server itself? I thought that that had been done, but now I'm not so sure. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 5 12:07:34 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:07:34 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <757E6936938344DC85428F2449184039@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: That is the trouble with these rack mounted units. They all tend to be so over-clocked that without the appropriate fans they would fail within a few minutes ;-) In all server rooms I have been in they are the reason the telephones have their volumes turned up to the max. ...and I am yet to run across a quiet unit. If the client wants quiet they buy a server in a box. If you do find one let me know...but I bet the unit will be priced appropriately. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:33 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Thu May 5 12:23:53 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:23:53 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? In-Reply-To: <757E6936938344DC85428F2449184039@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <757E6936938344DC85428F2449184039@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <007601cc0b49$3541e1d0$9fc5a570$@winhaven.net> If you find one please let me know too! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Gustav: That is the trouble with these rack mounted units. They all tend to be so over-clocked that without the appropriate fans they would fail within a few minutes ;-) In all server rooms I have been in they are the reason the telephones have their volumes turned up to the max. ...and I am yet to run across a quiet unit. If the client wants quiet they buy a server in a box. If you do find one let me know...but I bet the unit will be priced appropriately. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:33 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri May 6 01:18:26 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 08:18:26 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Message-ID: Hi John and Jim OK, that minimized my optimism! But at least I can understand that it isn't me that have missed something. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 05-05-2011 19:23 >>> If you find one please let me know too! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Gustav: That is the trouble with these rack mounted units. They all tend to be so over-clocked that without the appropriate fans they would fail within a few minutes ;-) In all server rooms I have been in they are the reason the telephones have their volumes turned up to the max. ...and I am yet to run across a quiet unit. If the client wants quiet they buy a server in a box. If you do find one let me know...but I bet the unit will be priced appropriately. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:33 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav From john at winhaven.net Fri May 6 09:50:40 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:50:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005a01cc0bfc$f834dd60$e89e9820$@winhaven.net> Hi Gustav, I think we've defined a new market opportunity John PS I wear hearing protection in the room with rack mount servers. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:18 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi John and Jim OK, that minimized my optimism! But at least I can understand that it isn't me that have missed something. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 05-05-2011 19:23 >>> If you find one please let me know too! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Gustav: That is the trouble with these rack mounted units. They all tend to be so over-clocked that without the appropriate fans they would fail within a few minutes ;-) In all server rooms I have been in they are the reason the telephones have their volumes turned up to the max. ...and I am yet to run across a quiet unit. If the client wants quiet they buy a server in a box. If you do find one let me know...but I bet the unit will be priced appropriately. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:33 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From erbachs at gmail.com Sun May 8 14:27:07 2011 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:27:07 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Jim, >> I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. << Yep, I dig that. The company where my wife works has a similar setup...but they don't use a public DNS provider. They dial into the VPN on the company server directly. >> For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the product it is standard in its features and scope. << How does OpenVPN.net differ from DynDNS.org? Aren't they offering the same sort of service? The first network guy my client hired set up an account on DynDNS.org. That's the "public DNS outfit" I referred to. What's bothering me is that I can open Remote Desktop, type in the domain name that was set up through DynDNS.org, and get access to my client's server WITHOUT having opened the VPN connection first. That is, just now I opened a Remote Desktop session and typed in the DynDNS domain name I set up, and voil?! There's the server. If I type in my client's login name (NO password) I have complete administrative access to the server. I checked in my Windows XP Network Connections and there's the VPN entry "Disconnected". Clearly something isn't set up right. I should ONLY be able to log in to the server remotely by first establishing the VPN connection. Clearly I'm confused. Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Steve: > > You will note that you can only access the VPN via a computer setup to run > over the VPN. I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically > because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. The VPN just > extends that capability to computers that may be remote. Check also that the > VPN station does not also supply the username and password to ease access. > > The environment in which you describe is fairly typical for a lot of > companies. In one company, once logged into the VPN, a person can see every > node in 40 states and 12 provinces and you could easily print an invoice to > some printer in Georgia. Though this is not a very secure system it is > fairly common. You should be able to go into the VPN client on the stations > and remove the auto login feature. > > For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website > (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the > product it is standard in its features and scope. > > Jim > > PS First backup anything you are fixing as it can be easy to lose important > credentials. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server > > Dear Group, > > The network guy who set up my client's Windows 2003 Server also set up > remote access. ?He used a public DNS outfit to create a domain name > which is what we use for VPN. ?Then he also set up one of the network > adapters with an internal IP address of 10.0.0.15...so when one runs > Windows Remote Desktop, the IP address to type in is 10.0.0.15. ?Fine. > ?This all works. > > The only problem is (well, not the ONLY problem...the network guy went > to jail and has been incommunicado since...and I have only a simple > knowledge of network protocols and such) that the VPN setup isn't set > up properly. ?I say that because this morning I discovered that one > can simply fire up Windows Remote Desktop, type in the real IP > address, and log right in. (One additional problem is that the owner > of the company has network administrator rights...but NO > PASSWORD!!??!!!) > > So my question is, what do I have to do to ensure that Remote Desktop > access ONLY goes through the VPN? ?Do we have to set up the VPN from > the server itself? ?I thought that that had been done, but now I'm not > so sure. > > Regards, > > Steve Erbach From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 8 16:24:14 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:24:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: References: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: OpenDNS works similar to Hamachi or LogMeIn (who owns Hamachi) in that they all run from central servers just like the Cloud does. The beauty of the whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. This is important as large organizations have multiple IP addresses and the central senior techs may be required to move a subnet or IP address from one location another or your ISP may change you IP addresses at certain occasions. Because your office DNS VPN system is in constant contact, with its central servers so all the connections are automatically adjusted (IP addresses). Where this form of tethering of remote users is superior to Hamachi and LogMeIn is that that company uses special IP addresses like 5.x.x.x and ports which are designed to slip under your firewall protection. OpenDNS uses standard ports like port 80 or 8080 that will not ever be blocked by any Firewall. By default OpenDNS uses 256 bit encryption which protects communication between your office host and where ever the remote may be located. Example: A remote user may be calling from a very insecure Wi-Fi connection in some coffee shop and through their router. You can of course run a VPN service from your own servers but it is hardly worth it, especially if the site owner does not want to have a full time tech running things. VPN servers by their nature are extreme complex. It is similar to those efforts of some companies that are still installing and maintaining Exchange servers to handle their mail but again if the host owner can not afford a full-time tech it is safer to just move to some Cloud services like GMail. I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault of the of your DNS services. If there is some code on the remote computers that allows the storage and use of credentials, through the DNS VPN service, to automate the login the remote user, that again is something outside you have to personally resolve and it is not the fault of any DNS VPN services. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:27 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server Jim, >> I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. << Yep, I dig that. The company where my wife works has a similar setup...but they don't use a public DNS provider. They dial into the VPN on the company server directly. >> For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the product it is standard in its features and scope. << How does OpenVPN.net differ from DynDNS.org? Aren't they offering the same sort of service? The first network guy my client hired set up an account on DynDNS.org. That's the "public DNS outfit" I referred to. What's bothering me is that I can open Remote Desktop, type in the domain name that was set up through DynDNS.org, and get access to my client's server WITHOUT having opened the VPN connection first. That is, just now I opened a Remote Desktop session and typed in the DynDNS domain name I set up, and voil?! There's the server. If I type in my client's login name (NO password) I have complete administrative access to the server. I checked in my Windows XP Network Connections and there's the VPN entry "Disconnected". Clearly something isn't set up right. I should ONLY be able to log in to the server remotely by first establishing the VPN connection. Clearly I'm confused. Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Steve: > > You will note that you can only access the VPN via a computer setup to run > over the VPN. I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically > because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. The VPN just > extends that capability to computers that may be remote. Check also that the > VPN station does not also supply the username and password to ease access. > > The environment in which you describe is fairly typical for a lot of > companies. In one company, once logged into the VPN, a person can see every > node in 40 states and 12 provinces and you could easily print an invoice to > some printer in Georgia. Though this is not a very secure system it is > fairly common. You should be able to go into the VPN client on the stations > and remove the auto login feature. > > For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website > (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the > product it is standard in its features and scope. > > Jim > > PS First backup anything you are fixing as it can be easy to lose important > credentials. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server > > Dear Group, > > The network guy who set up my client's Windows 2003 Server also set up > remote access. ?He used a public DNS outfit to create a domain name > which is what we use for VPN. ?Then he also set up one of the network > adapters with an internal IP address of 10.0.0.15...so when one runs > Windows Remote Desktop, the IP address to type in is 10.0.0.15. ?Fine. > ?This all works. > > The only problem is (well, not the ONLY problem...the network guy went > to jail and has been incommunicado since...and I have only a simple > knowledge of network protocols and such) that the VPN setup isn't set > up properly. ?I say that because this morning I discovered that one > can simply fire up Windows Remote Desktop, type in the real IP > address, and log right in. (One additional problem is that the owner > of the company has network administrator rights...but NO > PASSWORD!!??!!!) > > So my question is, what do I have to do to ensure that Remote Desktop > access ONLY goes through the VPN? ?Do we have to set up the VPN from > the server itself? ?I thought that that had been done, but now I'm not > so sure. > > Regards, > > Steve Erbach _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From erbachs at gmail.com Sun May 8 19:18:42 2011 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 19:18:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: References: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Jim, >> The beauty of the whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. << I dig. It does, indeed, sound similar to the service that DynDNS.org provides. At least for personal workstations, DynDNS.org provides software that senses a change in a dynamic IP address and sends the new address to DynDNS.org. >> I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault of the of your DNS services. << Not looking to place blame. I'm just confused as to what is happening. The network guy (who is incommunicado) set up my client's HP server to do everything: file server, DNS server, DHCP server, Terminal Server, VPN Server, Domain Controller, WINS server...the whole ball of wax. Not being well-versed in Windows Server 2003, I've been trying to pick it up as I go along. My feeling is that the network guy didn't set the server up properly himself...especially with respect to the VPN. Thanks for your insights. It does appear that I'll need to recommend that the owner of the company find someone who can evaluate what's going on. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > OpenDNS works similar to Hamachi or LogMeIn (who owns Hamachi) in that they > all run from central servers just like the Cloud does. The beauty of the > whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your > home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. > > This is important as large organizations have multiple IP addresses and the > central senior techs may be required to move a subnet or IP address from one > location another or your ISP may change you IP addresses at certain > occasions. > > Because your office DNS VPN system is in constant contact, with its central > servers so all the connections are automatically adjusted (IP addresses). > Where this form of tethering of remote users is superior to Hamachi and > LogMeIn is that that company uses special IP addresses like 5.x.x.x and > ports which are designed to slip under your firewall protection. OpenDNS > uses standard ports like port 80 or 8080 that will not ever be blocked by > any Firewall. By default OpenDNS uses 256 bit encryption which protects > communication between your office host and where ever the remote may be > located. Example: A remote user may be calling from a very insecure Wi-Fi > connection in some coffee shop and through their router. > > You can of course run a VPN service from your own servers but it is hardly > worth it, especially if the site owner does not want to have a full time > tech running things. VPN servers by their nature are extreme complex. It is > similar to those efforts of some companies that are still installing and > maintaining Exchange servers to handle their mail but again if the host > owner can not afford a full-time tech it is safer to just move to some Cloud > services like GMail. > > I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; > no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there > is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site > directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault > of the of your DNS services. If there is some code on the remote computers > that allows the storage and use of credentials, through the DNS VPN service, > to automate the login the remote user, that again is something outside you > have to personally resolve and it is not the fault of any DNS VPN services. > > HTH > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:27 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server > > Jim, > >>> I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that > IP range can only be used within an intranet. << > > Yep, I dig that. ?The company where my wife works has a similar > setup...but they don't use a public DNS provider. ?They dial into the > VPN on the company server directly. > >>> For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website > (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the > product it is standard in its features and scope. << > > How does OpenVPN.net differ from DynDNS.org? ?Aren't they offering the > same sort of service? ?The first network guy my client hired set up an > account on DynDNS.org. ?That's the "public DNS outfit" I referred to. > > What's bothering me is that I can open Remote Desktop, type in the > domain name that was set up through DynDNS.org, and get access to my > client's server WITHOUT having opened the VPN connection first. ?That > is, just now I opened a Remote Desktop session and typed in the DynDNS > domain name I set up, and voil?! ?There's the server. ?If I type in my > client's login name (NO password) I have complete administrative > access to the server. ?I checked in my Windows XP Network Connections > and there's the VPN entry "Disconnected". > > Clearly something isn't set up right. ?I should ONLY be able to log in > to the server remotely by first establishing the VPN connection. > > Clearly I'm confused. > > Steve Erbach From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 8 19:48:04 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 17:48:04 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: References: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4E1ED22E47F043028636508F3FF0CF1D@creativesystemdesigns.com> Just remember there are three parts to DNS VPN services: 1. The client end. That is the component set up on each station remote of otherwise. 2. The server end. That is the set of components that manages all the clients and that is hosted on the client's site. 3. The connection point. This is the point where all the stations and server tether around. Consider the setup like ships, a harbour and a lighthouse. The ship is the stations, the harbour is the client's host server and the lighthouse is position and connection from which both station and server use as the guiding light. My son-in-law is an absolute expert with these types of products, and if you need help, I would connect him in London, where he is presently. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:19 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server Jim, >> The beauty of the whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. << I dig. It does, indeed, sound similar to the service that DynDNS.org provides. At least for personal workstations, DynDNS.org provides software that senses a change in a dynamic IP address and sends the new address to DynDNS.org. >> I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault of the of your DNS services. << Not looking to place blame. I'm just confused as to what is happening. The network guy (who is incommunicado) set up my client's HP server to do everything: file server, DNS server, DHCP server, Terminal Server, VPN Server, Domain Controller, WINS server...the whole ball of wax. Not being well-versed in Windows Server 2003, I've been trying to pick it up as I go along. My feeling is that the network guy didn't set the server up properly himself...especially with respect to the VPN. Thanks for your insights. It does appear that I'll need to recommend that the owner of the company find someone who can evaluate what's going on. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > OpenDNS works similar to Hamachi or LogMeIn (who owns Hamachi) in that they > all run from central servers just like the Cloud does. The beauty of the > whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your > home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. > > This is important as large organizations have multiple IP addresses and the > central senior techs may be required to move a subnet or IP address from one > location another or your ISP may change you IP addresses at certain > occasions. > > Because your office DNS VPN system is in constant contact, with its central > servers so all the connections are automatically adjusted (IP addresses). > Where this form of tethering of remote users is superior to Hamachi and > LogMeIn is that that company uses special IP addresses like 5.x.x.x and > ports which are designed to slip under your firewall protection. OpenDNS > uses standard ports like port 80 or 8080 that will not ever be blocked by > any Firewall. By default OpenDNS uses 256 bit encryption which protects > communication between your office host and where ever the remote may be > located. Example: A remote user may be calling from a very insecure Wi-Fi > connection in some coffee shop and through their router. > > You can of course run a VPN service from your own servers but it is hardly > worth it, especially if the site owner does not want to have a full time > tech running things. VPN servers by their nature are extreme complex. It is > similar to those efforts of some companies that are still installing and > maintaining Exchange servers to handle their mail but again if the host > owner can not afford a full-time tech it is safer to just move to some Cloud > services like GMail. > > I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; > no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there > is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site > directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault > of the of your DNS services. If there is some code on the remote computers > that allows the storage and use of credentials, through the DNS VPN service, > to automate the login the remote user, that again is something outside you > have to personally resolve and it is not the fault of any DNS VPN services. > > HTH > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:27 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server > > Jim, > >>> I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that > IP range can only be used within an intranet. << > > Yep, I dig that. ?The company where my wife works has a similar > setup...but they don't use a public DNS provider. ?They dial into the > VPN on the company server directly. > >>> For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website > (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the > product it is standard in its features and scope. << > > How does OpenVPN.net differ from DynDNS.org? ?Aren't they offering the > same sort of service? ?The first network guy my client hired set up an > account on DynDNS.org. ?That's the "public DNS outfit" I referred to. > > What's bothering me is that I can open Remote Desktop, type in the > domain name that was set up through DynDNS.org, and get access to my > client's server WITHOUT having opened the VPN connection first. ?That > is, just now I opened a Remote Desktop session and typed in the DynDNS > domain name I set up, and voil?! ?There's the server. ?If I type in my > client's login name (NO password) I have complete administrative > access to the server. ?I checked in my Windows XP Network Connections > and there's the VPN entry "Disconnected". > > Clearly something isn't set up right. ?I should ONLY be able to log in > to the server remotely by first establishing the VPN connection. > > Clearly I'm confused. > > Steve Erbach _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon May 9 10:08:17 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 17:08:17 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] VHD to Boot off the Metal Message-ID: Hi all This was new to me. Not that you can boot from a VHD, but that you don't need an OS to host the VHD of which you can have several. Nothing fancy, just clever use of Windows 7's DISKPART and BCDBOOT: Installing a Fresh Windows OS to a New Bootable VHD with no Host OS for Boot to VHD http://johnpapa.net/bootoffmetal By John Papa. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 9 10:53:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:53:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] VHD to Boot off the Metal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: That article has a 'what' factor to it...or how is that possible. But it is all real and very interesting. I have not figured where and why I would deploy this but I can envision a series of virtual OS blanks being generated very fast. ;-) Just a note: There is a script error but it was caught by someone in the comments section. Thanks for posting. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:08 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] VHD to Boot off the Metal Hi all This was new to me. Not that you can boot from a VHD, but that you don't need an OS to host the VHD of which you can have several. Nothing fancy, just clever use of Windows 7's DISKPART and BCDBOOT: Installing a Fresh Windows OS to a New Bootable VHD with no Host OS for Boot to VHD http://johnpapa.net/bootoffmetal By John Papa. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 12 00:34:05 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:34:05 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB drive, at least 4GB. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com puter/ Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 12 00:45:09 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:45:09 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB drive, at least 4GB. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com puter/ Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 12 00:50:27 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:50:27 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that just appeared up as I was searching: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook -laptop Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB drive, at least 4GB. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com puter/ Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Thu May 12 22:01:12 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 22:01:12 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now there are 2 billion (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. PB On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that > just appeared up as I was searching: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook > -laptop > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB > drive, at least 4GB. > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com > puter/ > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 12 23:36:01 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 21:36:01 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> Is 'free' a good price? I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a major player but like the browser market there will be a half dozen other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now there are 2 billion (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. PB On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that > just appeared up as I was searching: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook > -laptop > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB > drive, at least 4GB. > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com > puter/ > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Fri May 13 03:32:29 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 09:32:29 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows but I > have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In twenty years, I > suspect that Windows will still be a major player but like the browser > market there will be a half dozen other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome > and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that > > just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB > > drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Fri May 13 03:37:39 2011 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 09:37:39 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 Martin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows > but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In > twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a major player but > like the browser market there will be a half dozen other major > players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link > > that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chro > mebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome- > > os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-re > al-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri May 13 03:51:24 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 10:51:24 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home users. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 Martin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows > but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In > twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a major player but > like the browser market there will be a half dozen other major > players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link > > that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chro > mebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome- > > os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-re > al-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri May 13 04:38:14 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 19:38:14 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: , <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <4DCCFC06.17756.5C6B3E1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Especially those that lost their data in reccent Google and Amazon cloud failures. -- Stuart On 13 May 2011 at 10:51, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their > personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think > there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home > users. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin > Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software > issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 > > Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Hi Jim, > > Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could > believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to > have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use > google docs or something similar? > > Mark > > > > > > > On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Is 'free' a good price? > > > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning > > Windows but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that > > direction. In twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a > > major player but like the browser market there will be a half dozen > > other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > > OS > > > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > > there are 2 billion > > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The > > ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced > > right. > > > > PB > > > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following > > > link that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-ch > > ro mebook > > > -laptop > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM To: 'Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download > > > Chrome OS > > > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrom > > > e- os/ > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > > > OS > > > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a- > > re al-com > > > puter/ > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri May 13 07:22:30 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 08:22:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday humour Message-ID: Not directly a joke, but recently I saw "Due Date", with Robert Downey and Zak somethingOrOther, a hilarious take on the buddy movie genre. Several scenes are so funny I almost fell out of my chair. I loved it so much I watched it again the next day. Arthur From john at winhaven.net Fri May 13 13:24:01 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:24:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 without Exchange - How do I Message-ID: <006f01cc119a$eee4a760$ccadf620$@winhaven.net> Outlook 2010 How do I make it autoreply with an Out of Office. No Exchange server. John B. PS: I don't remember this being so difficult in the past. From john at winhaven.net Fri May 13 13:36:19 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:36:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 without Exchange - How do I Message-ID: <007901cc119c$a6c41360$f44c3a20$@winhaven.net> Outlook 2010 How do I make it autoreply with an Out of Office. No Exchange server. John B. PS: I don't remember this being so difficult in the past. From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 13 15:31:26 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:31:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark: I am not sure whether that time schedule is too long. Google is actively pursuing the roll out of entire lines of super thin laptop computers with Chrome OS and renting at $28.00 a month. TechRepublic just posted such an article and asking the all important questions: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/hiner/while-it-pros-scoff-google-chromebook s-will-likely-seduce-businesses/8310?tag=nl.e101 The computers will not be for the techs or heavy users but for the 75 percent of the office workers that just do the basics, email, office etc. For us techs who make a living at roll-outs it may suggest lean picking in that area. I would recommend web based applications for the next hot set of requirements for the Chrome OS cloud world. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 1:32 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows but I > have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In twenty years, I > suspect that Windows will still be a major player but like the browser > market there will be a half dozen other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome > and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that > > just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB > > drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 13 15:35:49 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:35:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <88C9AA7CE44942C8855D5E7A6C6B7D49@creativesystemdesigns.com> Most people trust facebook and they give no guarantee of security, in fact quite the opposite. I think it was just like "cashless society" with everyone carrying around credit and debt cards. That whole concept took a while to accept now no one even looks back. For gamers and techs that change will never happen but for the standard email and office type people... it's perfect. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 1:51 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home users. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 Martin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows > but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In > twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a major player but > like the browser market there will be a half dozen other major > players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link > > that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chro > mebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome- > > os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-re > al-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 13 15:38:20 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:38:20 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <4DCCFC06.17756.5C6B3E1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <4DCCFC06.17756.5C6B3E1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com> Wasn't it the recent Amazon crash and it was it not that anyone lost data, wasn't it that the users could not get at their data? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 2:38 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Especially those that lost their data in reccent Google and Amazon cloud failures. -- Stuart On 13 May 2011 at 10:51, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their > personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think > there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home > users. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin > Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software > issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 > > Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Hi Jim, > > Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could > believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to > have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use > google docs or something similar? > > Mark > > > > > > > On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Is 'free' a good price? > > > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning > > Windows but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that > > direction. In twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a > > major player but like the browser market there will be a half dozen > > other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > > OS > > > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > > there are 2 billion > > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The > > ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced > > right. > > > > PB > > > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following > > > link that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-ch > > ro mebook > > > -laptop > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM To: 'Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download > > > Chrome OS > > > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrom > > > e- os/ > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > > > OS > > > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a- > > re al-com > > > puter/ > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri May 13 17:24:08 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 08:24:08 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <4DCCFC06.17756.5C6B3E1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DCDAF88.16074.883EB73@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Gmail in March this year was where people lost access to their data for several days. Amazon users in April permanently lost data -- Stuart On 13 May 2011 at 13:38, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Wasn't it the recent Amazon crash and it was it not that anyone lost > data, wasn't it that the users could not get at their data? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart > McLachlan Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 2:38 AM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > OS > > Especially those that lost their data in reccent Google and Amazon > cloud failures. > > -- > Stuart > > On 13 May 2011 at 10:51, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > > > I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their > > personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think > > there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home > > users. > > > > > > Jon > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin > > Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software > > issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 > > > > Martin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark > > Breen Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and > > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > Hi Jim, > > > > Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could > > believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to > > have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all > > use google docs or something similar? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > Is 'free' a good price? > > > > > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning > > > Windows but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that > > > direction. In twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a > > > major player but like the browser market there will be a half > > > dozen other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux > > > OSs...and others > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > > Brawley Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM To: Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download > > > Chrome OS > > > > > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. > > > Now there are 2 billion > > > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The > > > ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced > > > right. > > > > > > PB > > > > > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following > > > > link that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft- > > > ch ro mebook > > > > -laptop > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM To: 'Discussion > > > > of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] > > > > Download Chrome OS > > > > > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chr > > > > om e- os/ > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion > > > > of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download > > > > Chrome OS > > > > > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or > > > > on an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on- > > > a- re al-com > > > > puter/ > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If > > you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 09:17:29 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 10:17:29 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Hello All, I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so I used that. Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the work-station. With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole network. It's working beautifully, now. I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for one more student computer here. Best regards, T > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat May 14 09:32:14 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 07:32:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><00cf01cc05fa$242773f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Wow. Do you realize what new career you've just qualified yourself for? And now we know why Apple is so popular at home - plug and play - you can't do anything wrong because you can't do anything except exactly what they let you do. Which is what most home users need. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 Hello All, I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so I used that. Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the work-station. With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole network. It's working beautifully, now. I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for one more student computer here. Best regards, T > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 09:49:22 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 10:49:22 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way Message-ID: <4DCE9672.5010508@torchlake.com> Hello Friends, Well, since we've solved the puzzle for the Fields-Family computer, I can get back to one I was working on earlier. The patient is an IBM NetVista computer. I have a family member with access to a sort of electronics junkyard, where discarded items go, many of which are still quite usable, but may need a little updating, and most of which have been discarded simply to make room for newer equipment. The NetVista computer came from that source. The operating system is WinXP SP3 - I did the installation of the operating system - I set up the user accounts - I installed OpenOffice software - I installed Vipre -I was working on the updates for all the software and the OS, and all seemed to be fine until I got to one of the final updates and had to reboot the system, and it wouldn't reboot. I don't have the same detailed notes on this that I make when I know I'm dealing with a puzzle - I thought this was working perfectly - so, the sequence of events is no longer clear. However, the POST was wrong - rather than the single beep, there was a series of beeps (4 or 5 in a row). Looking up what that might mean, I found what I thought was the most likely culprit - a failing power supply. If it doesn't send a good power signal, the system won't boot. So, I bought a nice new power supply - the precise model called for by the NetVista specs - and installed it. Booted right up. Yay! I continued working on the full setup of this machine, and had it running for probably an hour when I got to another reboot - and it wouldn't. Same exact symptom. The power comes on, the initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at all. I put the computer aside for a while, because I had other things to tend to. A month later I came back to the sleuthing. Could be the CR2032 battery, after all, the machine is ancient. So, I replaced that. Booted right up. Yay! Continue setting things up just the way I will want them for a student computer in my little classroom. The system seems to be running just fine, until I reach another needed restart. Won't boot. Same exact symptom. Power on, initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at all, no matter how long I wait - waited five hours just to be sure. So, I think there is a thermal issue here. When the computer warms up, the reboot does not work. If I let the sucker sit for a week, it'll probably boot for me again just fine. Now, one of the NetVistas I already had running reliably, has developed the same apparent symptom. Reboot starts, but hangs at the display of the opening screen. Have you seen this symptom? Is it likely a thermal issue? Does it sound like a failing solder joint? Does it sound like a failing switch? Any ideas? Thanks, T From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 09:57:51 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 10:57:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net><4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> Hi Rocky, Yeah - if they'd had to pay someone to do what I did for their computer, they'd have been at least $1K better off to just buy a new computer. But, this is family, and I do not charge family, ever. Of course, along the way, I learned an awful lot. I'm still no wireless network expert, but I know a lot more about that stuff than I did before I started. Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at insertion. My high school student granddaughter may have an understanding of just how important all this care and caution is, but my middle school and elementary school granddaughters don't. They just know they had to wait a couple of weeks while Tima (that's a combination of Tina and Grandma) figured it out and fixed it. They don't yet fully appreciate how much important "stuff" they almost lost. Their Daddy does, though. My son-in-law really loves me! :-) T Rocky Smolin wrote: > Wow. Do you realize what new career you've just qualified yourself for? > > And now we know why Apple is so popular at home - plug and play - you can't > do anything wrong because you can't do anything except exactly what they let > you do. Which is what most home users need. > > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details > going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all > the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the > Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete > re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I > did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. > I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre > installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 > was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set > was. I had a spare set, so I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. > You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced > it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also > dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal > drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my > office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the > Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, > the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year > replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector > broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened > to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with > active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - > and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather > than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the > additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB > port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a > shelf above the work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and > both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, > named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. > Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - > made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first > router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in > the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as > they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole > network. It's working beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the > time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of > my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, > or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want > to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some > errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an > administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of > harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work > station construction for the library in their house. When that is > completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for > one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 14:46:06 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 12:46:06 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and network problems. I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 Hello All, I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so I used that. Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the work-station. With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole network. It's working beautifully, now. I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for one more student computer here. Best regards, T > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Sat May 14 15:02:21 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:02:21 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer Message-ID: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> Just got a $400 (Toshiba) laptop for my sisinlaw who does email, some websurfing, and some non-memory-hog games. My local computer store who I've dealt with since the mid 80s, just got a few in for a promotion, and they will later go for $600. Pretty nice little machine even for $600. One thing it includes is wireless network, so I don't have to cable her to the DSL modem and she can sit in her easy chair vs being chained to her dining room table like she is with the XP desktop from 2005. With wireless DSL modem, is that the same as wireless cable regarding drive by steeling bandwidth and/or snooping on her computer? If so, will simple WEP key be enough to stop it? The printer is also wireless. Do I need to do any security things there? I'm guessing that nobody can steel bandwidth or snoop via printer connection but I want to be sure. Got her a wireless keyboard/mouse as well, but I don't think there's any security issues there. Any other issues I should be aware of before I start setting it up for her. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net?? From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 15:06:26 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:06:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way In-Reply-To: <4DCE9672.5010508@torchlake.com> References: <4DCE9672.5010508@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <7C34D8680B3549AEA2EFB0CFC7CB4C69@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Tina: Check the BIOS to see what setting you have on the "over-heating" issue. Some BIOS will automatically shut down your computer when it over-heats. That over heating can be caused with a fan, either CPU fan or one for an onboard built-in video chip fans. Even if the fans are working sometimes so much dust gets into grooves of the heat-sink, or between the cooling assembly and the chip that heat just can not disperse properly. Note: 1. If you do remove the fan assemble, to clean it you should replace the heat-sink compound. (If you do not know; that is the paste that is placed on top of the chips so the chip and fan assemble can transfer heat property between them.) 2. Make sure the fans are running steadily and quickly. Sometimes dust and grit can cause them to not work properly. Carefully removing the lable (and replacing it...should be a perfect seal), on top of the fan, can gain you access to the fan bearing and a very small drop of three-in-one oil can do wonders. 3. You can also use a Can-of-air to blow away dust and dirt in small places around the fan assembles; just remember to have the computer turned off and cool before using the Air as the cold blast can damage a hot chip. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way Hello Friends, Well, since we've solved the puzzle for the Fields-Family computer, I can get back to one I was working on earlier. The patient is an IBM NetVista computer. I have a family member with access to a sort of electronics junkyard, where discarded items go, many of which are still quite usable, but may need a little updating, and most of which have been discarded simply to make room for newer equipment. The NetVista computer came from that source. The operating system is WinXP SP3 - I did the installation of the operating system - I set up the user accounts - I installed OpenOffice software - I installed Vipre -I was working on the updates for all the software and the OS, and all seemed to be fine until I got to one of the final updates and had to reboot the system, and it wouldn't reboot. I don't have the same detailed notes on this that I make when I know I'm dealing with a puzzle - I thought this was working perfectly - so, the sequence of events is no longer clear. However, the POST was wrong - rather than the single beep, there was a series of beeps (4 or 5 in a row). Looking up what that might mean, I found what I thought was the most likely culprit - a failing power supply. If it doesn't send a good power signal, the system won't boot. So, I bought a nice new power supply - the precise model called for by the NetVista specs - and installed it. Booted right up. Yay! I continued working on the full setup of this machine, and had it running for probably an hour when I got to another reboot - and it wouldn't. Same exact symptom. The power comes on, the initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at all. I put the computer aside for a while, because I had other things to tend to. A month later I came back to the sleuthing. Could be the CR2032 battery, after all, the machine is ancient. So, I replaced that. Booted right up. Yay! Continue setting things up just the way I will want them for a student computer in my little classroom. The system seems to be running just fine, until I reach another needed restart. Won't boot. Same exact symptom. Power on, initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at all, no matter how long I wait - waited five hours just to be sure. So, I think there is a thermal issue here. When the computer warms up, the reboot does not work. If I let the sucker sit for a week, it'll probably boot for me again just fine. Now, one of the NetVistas I already had running reliably, has developed the same apparent symptom. Reboot starts, but hangs at the display of the opening screen. Have you seen this symptom? Is it likely a thermal issue? Does it sound like a failing solder joint? Does it sound like a failing switch? Any ideas? Thanks, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 15:10:12 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:10:12 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Hi Tina: In business, never charge different rates or give deals. Either charge full rate or nothing at all. Relative and neighbours seem to fall into the latter category though they do end up paying in dinners, beer and home-made wines. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:58 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 Hi Rocky, Yeah - if they'd had to pay someone to do what I did for their computer, they'd have been at least $1K better off to just buy a new computer. But, this is family, and I do not charge family, ever. Of course, along the way, I learned an awful lot. I'm still no wireless network expert, but I know a lot more about that stuff than I did before I started. Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at insertion. My high school student granddaughter may have an understanding of just how important all this care and caution is, but my middle school and elementary school granddaughters don't. They just know they had to wait a couple of weeks while Tima (that's a combination of Tina and Grandma) figured it out and fixed it. They don't yet fully appreciate how much important "stuff" they almost lost. Their Daddy does, though. My son-in-law really loves me! :-) T Rocky Smolin wrote: > Wow. Do you realize what new career you've just qualified yourself for? > > And now we know why Apple is so popular at home - plug and play - you can't > do anything wrong because you can't do anything except exactly what they let > you do. Which is what most home users need. > > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details > going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all > the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the > Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete > re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I > did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. > I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre > installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 > was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set > was. I had a spare set, so I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. > You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced > it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also > dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal > drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my > office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the > Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, > the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year > replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector > broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened > to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with > active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - > and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather > than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the > additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB > port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a > shelf above the work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and > both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, > named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. > Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - > made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first > router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in > the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as > they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole > network. It's working beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the > time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of > my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, > or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want > to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some > errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an > administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of > harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work > station construction for the library in their house. When that is > completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for > one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 15:24:33 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:24:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com><8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s tuart.lexacorp.com.pg><"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net><4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> Hi Jim, Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in the right direction to begin with? Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network settings recorded. Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer Training. I also make house calls. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and > network problems. > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 15:25:18 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:25:18 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com><8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s tuart.lexacorp.com.pg><"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net><4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com><4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCEE52E.1090008@torchlake.com> There is that. Family and friends are well worth the effort. :-) T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina: > > In business, never charge different rates or give deals. Either charge full > rate or nothing at all. Relative and neighbours seem to fall into the latter > category though they do end up paying in dinners, beer and home-made wines. > ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:58 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here > -Update 4 > > Hi Rocky, > > Yeah - if they'd had to pay someone to do what I did for their computer, > they'd have been at least $1K better off to just buy a new computer. > But, this is family, and I do not charge family, ever. > Of course, along the way, I learned an awful lot. I'm still no wireless > network expert, but I know a lot more about that stuff than I did before > I started. > > Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus > spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at > insertion. > > My high school student granddaughter may have an understanding of just > how important all this care and caution is, but my middle school and > elementary school granddaughters don't. They just know they had to wait > a couple of weeks while Tima (that's a combination of Tina and Grandma) > figured it out and fixed it. They don't yet fully appreciate how much > important "stuff" they almost lost. Their Daddy does, though. My > son-in-law really loves me! :-) > > T > > Rocky Smolin wrote: > >> Wow. Do you realize what new career you've just qualified yourself for? >> >> And now we know why Apple is so popular at home - plug and play - you >> > can't > >> do anything wrong because you can't do anything except exactly what they >> > let > >> you do. Which is what most home users need. >> >> >> R >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris >> Fields >> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here >> > - > >> Update 4 >> >> Hello All, >> >> I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been >> completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and >> reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details >> going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all >> the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the >> Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the >> > complete > >> re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, >> > I > >> did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral >> > equipment. > >> I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre >> installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office >> > 2003 > >> was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original >> > set > >> was. I had a spare set, so I used that. >> >> Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept >> > dropping. > >> You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I >> > replaced > >> it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also >> dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal >> drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in >> > my > >> office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the >> Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. >> I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying >> > that, > >> the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year >> replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector >> broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had >> > happened > >> to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with >> active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - >> and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather >> than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought >> > the > >> additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a >> > USB > >> port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a >> shelf above the work-station. >> >> With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network >> - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and >> both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, >> named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. >> Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - >> made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the >> > first > >> router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router >> > in > >> the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as >> they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole >> network. It's working beautifully, now. >> >> I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all >> > the > >> time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one >> > of > >> my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home >> > office, > >> or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't >> > want > >> to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. >> >> Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some >> errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an >> administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of >> harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work >> station construction for the library in their house. When that is >> completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room >> > for > >> one more student computer here. >> >> Best regards, >> T >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 15:27:39 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:27:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way In-Reply-To: <7C34D8680B3549AEA2EFB0CFC7CB4C69@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4DCE9672.5010508@torchlake.com> <7C34D8680B3549AEA2EFB0CFC7CB4C69@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DCEE5BB.7000300@torchlake.com> Hi Jim, Some good thoughts there, even though the computer doesn't get shut down, it just doesn't boot all the way. Still, these suggestions will prove quite helpful, I am sure. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina: > > Check the BIOS to see what setting you have on the "over-heating" issue. > > Some BIOS will automatically shut down your computer when it over-heats. > That over heating can be caused with a fan, either CPU fan or one for an > onboard built-in video chip fans. Even if the fans are working sometimes so > much dust gets into grooves of the heat-sink, or between the cooling > assembly and the chip that heat just can not disperse properly. > > Note: > 1. If you do remove the fan assemble, to clean it you should replace the > heat-sink compound. (If you do not know; that is the paste that is placed on > top of the chips so the chip and fan assemble can transfer heat property > between them.) > 2. Make sure the fans are running steadily and quickly. Sometimes dust and > grit can cause them to not work properly. Carefully removing the lable (and > replacing it...should be a perfect seal), on top of the fan, can gain you > access to the fan bearing and a very small drop of three-in-one oil can do > wonders. > 3. You can also use a Can-of-air to blow away dust and dirt in small places > around the fan assembles; just remember to have the computer turned off and > cool before using the Air as the cold blast can damage a hot chip. > > HTH > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:49 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way > > Hello Friends, > > Well, since we've solved the puzzle for the Fields-Family computer, I > can get back to one I was working on earlier. > > The patient is an IBM NetVista computer. I have a family member with > access to a sort of electronics junkyard, where discarded items go, many > of which are still quite usable, but may need a little updating, and > most of which have been discarded simply to make room for newer > equipment. The NetVista computer came from that source. The operating > system is WinXP SP3 - I did the installation of the operating system - I > set up the user accounts - I installed OpenOffice software - I installed > Vipre -I was working on the updates for all the software and the OS, and > all seemed to be fine until I got to one of the final updates and had to > reboot the system, and it wouldn't reboot. > > I don't have the same detailed notes on this that I make when I know I'm > dealing with a puzzle - I thought this was working perfectly - so, the > sequence of events is no longer clear. However, the POST was wrong - > rather than the single beep, there was a series of beeps (4 or 5 in a > row). Looking up what that might mean, I found what I thought was the > most likely culprit - a failing power supply. If it doesn't send a good > power signal, the system won't boot. So, I bought a nice new power > supply - the precise model called for by the NetVista specs - and > installed it. Booted right up. Yay! I continued working on the full > setup of this machine, and had it running for probably an hour when I > got to another reboot - and it wouldn't. Same exact symptom. The power > comes on, the initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at > all. I put the computer aside for a while, because I had other things > to tend to. > > A month later I came back to the sleuthing. Could be the CR2032 > battery, after all, the machine is ancient. So, I replaced that. > Booted right up. Yay! Continue setting things up just the way I will > want them for a student computer in my little classroom. The system > seems to be running just fine, until I reach another needed restart. > Won't boot. Same exact symptom. Power on, initial screen is displayed, > and nothing more happens at all, no matter how long I wait - waited five > hours just to be sure. > > So, I think there is a thermal issue here. When the computer warms up, > the reboot does not work. If I let the sucker sit for a week, it'll > probably boot for me again just fine. > > Now, one of the NetVistas I already had running reliably, has developed > the same apparent symptom. Reboot starts, but hangs at the display of > the opening screen. > > Have you seen this symptom? Is it likely a thermal issue? Does it > sound like a failing solder joint? Does it sound like a failing > switch? Any ideas? > > Thanks, > T > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 15:30:00 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:30:00 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> Message-ID: <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> With a simple WEP or WPA username and password is always a good idea. The credential can then just be installed on the laptop and the computer will automatically just log-in, so there is no hassle. Security against someone hacking into your computer is less of an issue than someone just being able attached to the Wi-Fi router and using it as an open hot-spot. Otherwise the router will end up being a great location for the next door neighbour's kids to stream data up and down on your dime and band-width while hiding their identity. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer Just got a $400 (Toshiba) laptop for my sisinlaw who does email, some websurfing, and some non-memory-hog games. My local computer store who I've dealt with since the mid 80s, just got a few in for a promotion, and they will later go for $600. Pretty nice little machine even for $600. One thing it includes is wireless network, so I don't have to cable her to the DSL modem and she can sit in her easy chair vs being chained to her dining room table like she is with the XP desktop from 2005. With wireless DSL modem, is that the same as wireless cable regarding drive by steeling bandwidth and/or snooping on her computer? If so, will simple WEP key be enough to stop it? The printer is also wireless. Do I need to do any security things there? I'm guessing that nobody can steel bandwidth or snoop via printer connection but I want to be sure. Got her a wireless keyboard/mouse as well, but I don't think there's any security issues there. Any other issues I should be aware of before I start setting it up for her. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net?? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 15:52:16 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:52:16 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s> <"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> <4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML on it. Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers in their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish to have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 Hi Jim, Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in the right direction to begin with? Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network settings recorded. Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer Training. I also make house calls. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and > network problems. > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Sat May 14 16:08:42 2011 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:08:42 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: It is my understanding that "DriveImage XML" is free only for private use. For commercial use you have to buy the Commercial Edition. Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Jim Lawrence Gesendet: Samstag, 14. Mai 2011 22:52 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML on it. Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers in their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish to have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 Hi Jim, Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in the right direction to begin with? Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network settings recorded. Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer Training. I also make house calls. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and > network problems. > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Sat May 14 16:13:26 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 14:13:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> > Security against someone hacking into your computer is less of an issue than > someone just being able attached to the Wi-Fi router and using it as an open > hot-spot. Otherwise the router will end up being a great location for the > next door neighbour's kids to stream data up and down on your dime and > band-width while hiding their identity. That's what I mean about stealing bandwidth. BTW, no router, unless you mean the built-in wireless. Just the DSL modem, otherwise. Kathryn From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 17:03:07 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 18:03:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com><8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s> <"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net><4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com><4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DCEFC1B.2050807@torchlake.com> Jim, That's a terrific idea! Thanks. :-) T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML > on it. > > Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done > you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily > create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be > created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using > DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or > just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. > > I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers in > their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just > deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a > great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish to > have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible > things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here > -Update 4 > > Hi Jim, > > Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in > the right direction to begin with? > > Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about > that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network > settings recorded. > > Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer > Training. I also make house calls. > > T > > Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router >> > and > >> network problems. >> >> I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... >> except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW >> perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it >> will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as >> > that > >> sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. >> >> "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris >> Fields >> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here >> > - > >> Update 4 >> >> Hello All, >> >> I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been >> completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and >> reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other >> details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I >> copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from >> the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the >> complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard >> drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the >> peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the >> Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans >> scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set >> and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so >> I used that. >> >> Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept >> dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing >> and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in >> my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status >> monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, >> there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the >> USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. >> I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying >> that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a >> three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the >> USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly >> what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no >> surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the >> front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at >> about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of >> the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new >> adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the >> tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the >> work-station. >> >> With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network >> - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap >> and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one >> up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the >> settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the >> new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is >> cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where >> it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working >> fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit >> security key is established for the whole network. It's working >> beautifully, now. >> >> I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all >> the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably >> become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have >> in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to >> use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't >> decided, yet. >> >> Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected >> some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not >> working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless >> adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on >> the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their >> house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, >> and I will have room for one more student computer here. >> >> Best regards, >> T >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat May 14 17:52:04 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:52:04 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, , <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> You should also disable AutoRun. Create a DisableAutorun.reg file containng the following lines: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\Autorun.inf] @="@SYS:DoesNotExist" Once installed, no nasties get passed just by plugging in a USB drive -- Stuart On 14 May 2011 at 10:57, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > > Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus > spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at > insertion. > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat May 14 17:52:30 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:52:30 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <4DCDAF88.16074.883EB73@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com>, <4DCDAF88.16074.883EB73@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4DCF07AE.13345.DC44937@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Now it's Microsoft's problem. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/13/microsoft_bpos_apology/ Microsoft BPOS cloud outage burns Exchange converts 'All in' now looking for a 'way out' I just set up a bunch of CNAME records for one of our domain hosting clients to switch to BPOS last week. I'm sure glad that t wasn't me who advised them to make the switch :-) -- Stuart On 14 May 2011 at 8:24, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Gmail in March this year was where people lost access to their data > for several days. > > Amazon users in April permanently lost data > > -- > Stuart > > On 13 May 2011 at 13:38, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Wasn't it the recent Amazon crash and it was it not that anyone lost > > data, wasn't it that the users could not get at their data? > > > > Jim > > > > > > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 20:16:41 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 18:16:41 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <1535276679CB49A69D4A56BE03E231F8@creativesystemdesigns.com> It is a situation that can go either way when it comes to installing it in the home for basically home use. Is it a business because you do some business on your computers or is it just home use as in most cases a person would just use the equipment for pleasure. If the computers, in question, reside in an office and are only used for business then it is clear cut business use. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:09 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 It is my understanding that "DriveImage XML" is free only for private use. For commercial use you have to buy the Commercial Edition. Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Jim Lawrence Gesendet: Samstag, 14. Mai 2011 22:52 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML on it. Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers in their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish to have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 Hi Jim, Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in the right direction to begin with? Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network settings recorded. Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer Training. I also make house calls. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and > network problems. > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 20:18:40 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 18:18:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> Message-ID: Oh, I am not aware of the configuration that you are talking about. Where is the wireless? Is it built into the modem or what? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:13 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer > Security against someone hacking into your computer is less of an issue than > someone just being able attached to the Wi-Fi router and using it as an open > hot-spot. Otherwise the router will end up being a great location for the > next door neighbour's kids to stream data up and down on your dime and > band-width while hiding their identity. That's what I mean about stealing bandwidth. BTW, no router, unless you mean the built-in wireless. Just the DSL modem, otherwise. Kathryn _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Sat May 14 23:50:26 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 21:50:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> Message-ID: <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> > Oh, I am not aware of the configuration that you are talking about. Where is > the wireless? Is it built into the modem or what? Wi-FiR Wireless networking (802.11b/g/n) Kathryn From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 00:28:09 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:28:09 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> Message-ID: <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> Are not Wireless networks comprized of at least a hub and satellite stations? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:50 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer > Oh, I am not aware of the configuration that you are talking about. Where is > the wireless? Is it built into the modem or what? Wi-FiR Wireless networking (802.11b/g/n) Kathryn _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Sun May 15 00:37:43 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:37:43 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <002d01cc12c2$36cdbcb0$a4693610$@net> > Are not Wireless networks comprized of at least a hub and satellite > stations? All I know is that he said that as long as the cable modem is capable of wireless connection (*), that the computer would connect to it wirelessly. Instead of having to plug one of the "oversize phone plugs" from the computer to the modem. (*) which it is, because when ATT was helping me with a connectivity issue with the desktop, they asked what modem we were using, and with the answer, they asked if I was connected hardwire or wireless. Kathryn From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 00:40:35 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:40:35 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <4DCF07AE.13345.DC44937@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCDAF88.16074.883EB73@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4DCF07AE.13345.DC44937@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: The whole cloud networks are in their infancy and they were probably deployed before they were really ready for public consumption. I remember when the internet started and no ISP could guarantee 24x7 service and in some case would sit down for days. The network and ISP we were connected to would be compensated us every month for how many hours they were down and sometimes it was almost 50 percent. It is rare that internet crashes now. My main concerns are that these cloud systems will become consolidated amongst only a very few providers. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:53 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Now it's Microsoft's problem. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/13/microsoft_bpos_apology/ Microsoft BPOS cloud outage burns Exchange converts 'All in' now looking for a 'way out' I just set up a bunch of CNAME records for one of our domain hosting clients to switch to BPOS last week. I'm sure glad that t wasn't me who advised them to make the switch :-) -- Stuart On 14 May 2011 at 8:24, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Gmail in March this year was where people lost access to their data > for several days. > > Amazon users in April permanently lost data > > -- > Stuart > > On 13 May 2011 at 13:38, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Wasn't it the recent Amazon crash and it was it not that anyone lost > > data, wasn't it that the users could not get at their data? > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 00:54:26 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:54:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <135339F12382443EB75C5BF575F4B77F@creativesystemdesigns.com> That's a good one Stuart...should have thought of it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:52 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 You should also disable AutoRun. Create a DisableAutorun.reg file containng the following lines: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\Autorun.inf] @="@SYS:DoesNotExist" Once installed, no nasties get passed just by plugging in a USB drive -- Stuart On 14 May 2011 at 10:57, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > > Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus > spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at > insertion. > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sun May 15 01:24:04 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:24:04 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Audio editing: Hindenburg Journalist Message-ID: Hi all This software claims to be so easy to adopt that even a journalist can learn it in five minutes while delivering audio that meets the newest broadcast standards. For Mac and Windows: http://nsaka.com/ /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 01:35:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:35:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <002d01cc12c2$36cdbcb0$a4693610$@net> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> <002d01cc12c2$36cdbcb0$a4693610$@net> Message-ID: In other words, your modem is your Wi-Fi router. 1. You have to access you modem via its address (go to the command prompt and enter IPCONFIG and your gateway address, the modem/router address should be displayed0. 2. From your browser enter: http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx < your gateway address and log on. You should have the username and password, as it is most likely a default, no credentials or a setting your modem company has given you. If you do not have this check the modem type online and usually they will provide the default credentials to their modems or you will have to get those setting from your modem provider. 3. Go into the modems web setting pages and change or add the wireless credentials...there should be an area for that. 4. You should change the username and password (write them on a label and stick that label to the modem) to log on to the modem, as well, as it most likely is some standard default and every bright young neighbour knows it, can just login anytime and hijack the modem. 5. If there is a remote login setting set to allow remote access as most of these units have...turned it off. You may have to turn it on again when you require service but in the meantime you are protected as every support worker knows your remote login password as it is probably some default. Now this all depends on who owns the modem. If you own it then you can legally expect access but if it is just rented then this falls into a grey area and I am not sure who has authority. If you want to have some fun, just get the external address the outside world sees just go to a website like: http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip-lookup and get your address. Now do the same with your browser, to access the gateway, you can try and login from this position having your appropriate remote access username/password or having set it and the 'allow remote login' settings on, in the modem. (Do leave 'allow remote login' setting on as any script-kiddy can take over your modem in about 10 minutes.) HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:38 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer > Are not Wireless networks comprized of at least a hub and satellite > stations? All I know is that he said that as long as the cable modem is capable of wireless connection (*), that the computer would connect to it wirelessly. Instead of having to plug one of the "oversize phone plugs" from the computer to the modem. (*) which it is, because when ATT was helping me with a connectivity issue with the desktop, they asked what modem we were using, and with the answer, they asked if I was connected hardwire or wireless. Kathryn _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 01:40:54 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:40:54 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Audio editing: Hindenburg Journalist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <886E53BADBFB4349BFD58997B2BB7187@creativesystemdesigns.com> Excellent looking product. Also noted is that this company also have the new defacto; a Facebook portal: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nsaka-ApS/170527759640044 and we should be making one for all our web clients, if they do not already have one. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:24 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Audio editing: Hindenburg Journalist Hi all This software claims to be so easy to adopt that even a journalist can learn it in five minutes while delivering audio that meets the newest broadcast standards. For Mac and Windows: http://nsaka.com/ /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 02:57:39 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 00:57:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is evolving. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85B54B44962F47AEB7BEB73298FA4120@creativesystemdesigns.com> Microsoft is evolving into the 21 century and it is good to see it but for people who have spent a great deal of time becoming conversant in many of Microsoft's proprietary web based tools might be realizing it may not be such a secure or as advanced technology as the open standards. ...But there are clear signs that Microsoft is evolving as it struggles to catch up with the 21st Century. Take the web. Microsoft lumbered into the web app world with its tried-and-once-true playbook: push the world to adopt Silverlight and lock a generation of developers into Microsoft tools, then crank up the cash register and collect license fees. The problem is that web developers had already voted with their downloads and were snubbing Adobe Flex and Silverlight in favor of open standards like HTML5 and Javascript. Rather than fight the trend, Microsoft adopted it, and has been an active proponent of HTML5 ever since - though not without some hesitation, it should be noted. Why? Because an open web is very much in Microsoft's interests, as The Register's Tim Anderson explains: [Microsoft] realizes it must have a broad-reach platform alongside Windows to succeed in the diverse world of mobile devices and increasing numbers of Mac computers, and that its efforts with .NET and Silverlight are not able to be that broad-reach platform. "Hah!" You say, "Microsoft is only open when it suits the company's interests!" Yes, but that's true of every company. Some just happen to have business models that benefit from open code, while Microsoft, until now, has not. The web is a game changer, and Microsoft's game is changing. Take Microsoft's Skype acquisition. In the past, Microsoft would buy a company and try to monetize its assets through license fees. But in the case of Skype, as ZDNet's Mary-Jo Foley posits, advertising may well be the revenue engine... Jim From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun May 15 15:50:05 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 16:50:05 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, , <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4DD03C7D.2070400@torchlake.com> Thank you, Stuart. I will make use of that. :-) T Stuart McLachlan wrote: > You should also disable AutoRun. > > Create a DisableAutorun.reg file containng the following lines: > > REGEDIT4 > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows > NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\Autorun.inf] > @="@SYS:DoesNotExist" > > Once installed, no nasties get passed just by plugging in a USB drive > > From kathryn at bassett.net Sun May 15 15:53:42 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 13:53:42 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> <002d01cc12c2$36cdbcb0$a4693610$@net> Message-ID: <002701cc1342$2cd55710$86800530$@net> Thanks for the step-by-step. Makes me want to follow through right away, but I've got to do all the other stuff re setup before I take it all to Barbara's where I'll do the internet stuff. Probably won't be until after next weekend, but I'll let you know how it went. Kathryn > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech- > bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:36 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer > > In other words, your modem is your Wi-Fi router. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon May 16 06:48:21 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 07:48:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> <4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: I used to teach at a tech institute that did exactly what you suggest. After each course, the tech-admin guy re-imaged all the computers back to their pristine state. For the more popular courses, he installed the required software before creating the image. It works a treat. At one travel agency I worked at, they did the same thing. There were about 75 computers in use, and a couple of bare-image ones ready to go. In case anything happened, the tech-guy would just replace the errant box with a new one, all preconfigured and ready to go. He was then free to repair or discard the errant box, with maybe half an hour down-time. Arthur On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML > on it. > > Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done > you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily > create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be > created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using > DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or > just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. > > I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers > in > their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just > deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a > great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish > to > have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible > things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here > -Update 4 > > Hi Jim, > > Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in > the right direction to begin with? > > Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about > that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network > settings recorded. > > Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer > Training. I also make house calls. > > T > > Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router > and > > network problems. > > > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as > that > > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > > Fields > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With > Here > - > > Update 4 > > > > Hello All, > > > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > > I used that. > > > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > > work-station. > > > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > > beautifully, now. > > > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > > decided, yet. > > > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > > > Best regards, > > T > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue May 17 05:34:50 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:34:50 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software Message-ID: Hello Friends, I met a friend while out on my morning walk this morning and he asked me what software I would recommend for "testing computers". He wants to run diagnostics on all the hardware components in machines - laptops and desktops. I am not sure for what purpose, perhaps just for fun. I said that honestly, I had no idea and suggested that a search on The Search Engine will no doubt present at least 100 choices, but I did say I would ask a group that will surely know the best top 2 choices. If you have a suggestion, please feel free to post it. thanks Mark From jon.tydda at lonza.com Tue May 17 05:37:28 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:37:28 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mark Your friend should look for "Benchmarking" software. That's what they call it in the magazine tests. I haven't used any myself, but that's what you need to look for. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 17 May 2011 11:35 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software Hello Friends, I met a friend while out on my morning walk this morning and he asked me what software I would recommend for "testing computers". He wants to run diagnostics on all the hardware components in machines - laptops and desktops. I am not sure for what purpose, perhaps just for fun. I said that honestly, I had no idea and suggested that a search on The Search Engine will no doubt present at least 100 choices, but I did say I would ask a group that will surely know the best top 2 choices. If you have a suggestion, please feel free to post it. thanks Mark _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From rustykh at yahoo.com Thu May 19 09:01:05 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 07:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> To add to the Benchmarking suggestion, visit PC Magazine (www.pcmag.com) and look over their reviews of systems.? Often times when they show benchmark results, they will also mention the software they use to do the tests. HTH, Rusty ________________________________ From: Tydda Jon - Slough To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software Hi Mark Your friend should look for "Benchmarking" software. That's what they call it in the magazine tests. I haven't used any myself, but that's what you need to look for. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 17 May 2011 11:35 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software Hello Friends, I met a friend while out on my morning walk this morning and he asked me what software I would recommend for "testing computers". He wants to run diagnostics on all the hardware components in machines - laptops and desktops.? I am not sure for what purpose, perhaps just for fun. I said that honestly, I had no idea and suggested that a search on The Search Engine will no doubt present at least 100 choices, but I did say I would ask a group that will surely know the best top 2 choices. If you have a suggestion, please feel free to post it. thanks Mark _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 21 20:15:47 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 18:15:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon In-Reply-To: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This has been posted before but the following article on Graphene adds more to possibe next big advancement in computers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9491789.stm Jim From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat May 21 23:16:19 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 14:16:19 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon In-Reply-To: References: , <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <4DD88E13.16552.222B7744@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Given how far it is from practical use, I'd say it is more likely the "one after next" :-) -- Stuart On 21 May 2011 at 18:15, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This has been posted before but the following article on Graphene adds > more to possibe next big advancement in computers: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9491789.stm > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 21 23:44:01 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:44:01 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon In-Reply-To: <4DD88E13.16552.222B7744@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4DD88E13.16552.222B7744@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <6447C63F084E4963BD7B58403DF50783@creativesystemdesigns.com> Probably... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:16 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon Given how far it is from practical use, I'd say it is more likely the "one after next" :-) -- Stuart On 21 May 2011 at 18:15, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This has been posted before but the following article on Graphene adds > more to possibe next big advancement in computers: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9491789.stm > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun May 22 07:24:53 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 08:24:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question Message-ID: I thought that I'd give MS the benefit of the doubt, so I switched to IE9 for a while, and for a while it seemed fast and intuitive and so on, but it kept crashing and so finally I downloaded the latest FireFox. It's been some time since I used it, and I can't remember where the default directory is for storing downloads. Where is it and how can I change it? TIA, Arthur From garykjos at gmail.com Sun May 22 07:50:23 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 07:50:23 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tools Options General Panel GK On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I thought that I'd give MS the benefit of the doubt, so I switched to IE9 > for a while, and for a while it seemed fast and intuitive and so on, but it > kept crashing and so finally I downloaded the latest FireFox. It's been some > time since I used it, and I can't remember where the default directory is > for storing downloads. Where is it and how can I change it? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun May 22 10:51:01 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:51:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> Tools->Options->General PB On 5/22/2011 7:24 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I thought that I'd give MS the benefit of the doubt, so I switched to IE9 > for a while, and for a while it seemed fast and intuitive and so on, but it > kept crashing and so finally I downloaded the latest FireFox. It's been some > time since I used it, and I can't remember where the default directory is > for storing downloads. Where is it and how can I change it? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun May 22 12:13:46 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 13:13:46 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> References: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I don't know whether this is new to FireFox 4 or whether I've screwed something up, but I don't seem to have the menu any more. A. On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Peter Brawley wrote: > Tools->Options->General > > PB > > From garykjos at gmail.com Sun May 22 12:17:54 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 12:17:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> Message-ID: The Menu Bar is not there by default in FF4. Right click in the top area where the toolbars are and you should get a drop down of the bars that are available. Select Menu Bar to get that one back. GK On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I don't know whether this is new to FireFox 4 or whether I've screwed > something up, but I don't seem to have the menu any more. > > A. > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Peter Brawley > wrote: > >> Tools->Options->General >> >> PB >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun May 22 12:49:50 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 12:49:50 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4DD94CBE.3090806@earthlink.net> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Menu%20bar%20is%20missing PB On 5/22/2011 12:13 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I don't know whether this is new to FireFox 4 or whether I've screwed > something up, but I don't seem to have the menu any more. > > A. > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Peter Brawley> wrote: >> Tools->Options->General >> >> PB >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun May 22 17:44:25 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 08:44:25 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: , <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net>, Message-ID: <4DD991C9.26814.2621FBF3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Is there a single tab at the left hand end of the window grab bar (ie opposite end to the iminimze/maximize, close buttons) with the word Firefox and a small down arrow. If so, click on that and select Options On 22 May 2011 at 13:13, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I don't know whether this is new to FireFox 4 or whether I've screwed > something up, but I don't seem to have the menu any more. > > A. > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Peter Brawley > wrote: > > > Tools->Options->General > > > > PB > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue May 24 03:10:13 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 04:10:13 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Virtual Machine Message-ID: I just set up a VM (in VirtualBox) to run Windows XP, and now I have 29 days left to activate it. So I tried, and MS told me that it's no longer supported and that I should upgrade to Windows 7. Ironically, VirtualBox is running in Windows 7. So how can I get from here to there? I just wanted to set up an XP VM to emulate a client's setup. Does this mean I cannot do this? My copy of XP is already activated. MS knows who I am. Sheesh! Any clever ideas? Arthur From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Tue May 24 06:03:03 2011 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:03:03 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Virtual Machine References: Message-ID: <8DE60EB316664EE7B90E3337D656AED3@s1800> Arthur, MS has a new Virtual PC, which runs on Win7. you can download it from MS site free. at the same site is the "XP-Mode" which is a VPC with XP already installed, also free to download. you can install on the XP-Mode just like on an XP machine. I have just tried that. Works ok. just google VPC for Win7 or such. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Virtual Machine >I just set up a VM (in VirtualBox) to run Windows XP, and now I have 29 >days > left to activate it. So I tried, and MS told me that it's no longer > supported and that I should upgrade to Windows 7. Ironically, VirtualBox > is > running in Windows 7. So how can I get from here to there? I just wanted > to > set up an XP VM to emulate a client's setup. Does this mean I cannot do > this? My copy of XP is already activated. MS knows who I am. Sheesh! > > Any clever ideas? > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue May 24 06:14:00 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 07:14:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Virtual Machine In-Reply-To: <8DE60EB316664EE7B90E3337D656AED3@s1800> References: <8DE60EB316664EE7B90E3337D656AED3@s1800> Message-ID: Thanks. I'll look into it. A. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Lembit Soobik wrote: > Arthur, > MS has a new Virtual PC, which runs on Win7. you can download it from MS > site free. at the same site is the "XP-Mode" which is a VPC with XP already > installed, also free to download. you can install on the XP-Mode just like > on an XP machine. I have just tried that. Works ok. > just google VPC for Win7 or such. > > Lembit > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu May 26 11:14:45 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:14:45 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] A gmail trick I just learned Message-ID: A while back (almost a year ago) I was hospitalized for a while, and missed a bunch of email. Every time I logged into gmail, the InBox count was about 20 unread emails, dating back to that period. It's painful to click "Older" that many times. But today I discovered that Show Search Options lets you view only the unread emails, regardless of their date. So I was able to isolate these long-obsolete emails and delete them all (except for the very few that were recent). Now my Inbox count is once again respectable and useful. Hope this helps someone. Arthur From john at winhaven.net Thu May 26 18:49:14 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:49:14 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Word Header Message-ID: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> I would like to place the chapter name into the header automatically so that I don't have to create a new header for each chapter. I remember doing this eons ago but I haven't a clue how to do it now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Now using Word 2010. John B From bhj at wrkblslns.com Fri May 27 08:01:27 2011 From: bhj at wrkblslns.com (Bruce H. Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 06:01:27 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Word Header In-Reply-To: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <016601cc1c6e$311c2490$93546db0$@com> Assuming your chapter name is a styled paragraph, check out the field "StyleRef" -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:49 PM To: _DBA-OT; DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Word Header I would like to place the chapter name into the header automatically so that I don't have to create a new header for each chapter. I remember doing this eons ago but I haven't a clue how to do it now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Now using Word 2010. John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 28 12:27:08 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:27:08 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> Google is shutting down its Translation API: http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide development community. Millions of web applications have learned to depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in their scope and capability. As of next November it will be no more. Jim From df.waters at comcast.net Sat May 28 13:03:35 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 13:03:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <002701cc1d61$9041db10$b0c59130$@comcast.net> So - who wants to buy it from Google and charge for the service? The charges would probably be small, and it could be profitable. If it's this popular, then I bet someone will. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:27 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness Google is shutting down its Translation API: http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide development community. Millions of web applications have learned to depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in their scope and capability. As of next November it will be no more. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat May 28 16:56:47 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 07:56:47 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net>, <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Anyone who relies on a free service provided by a third party should expect to have to find an alternative at some point in time. -- Stuart On 28 May 2011 at 10:27, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Google is shutting down its Translation API: > > http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html > > The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide > development community. Millions of web applications have learned to > depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in > their scope and capability. > > As of next November it will be no more. > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 28 18:05:48 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:05:48 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <002701cc1d61$9041db10$b0c59130$@comcast.net> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <002701cc1d61$9041db10$b0c59130$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3FB6F5AD4E93473F926C4E51A9FB5138@creativesystemdesigns.com> Google could have done that but then there would be an implied responsiblity to support the API and then it is much more difficult to just bail when they wanted and just did. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 11:04 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google madness So - who wants to buy it from Google and charge for the service? The charges would probably be small, and it could be profitable. If it's this popular, then I bet someone will. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:27 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness Google is shutting down its Translation API: http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide development community. Millions of web applications have learned to depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in their scope and capability. As of next November it will be no more. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 28 18:30:54 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:30:54 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Currently there are no real alternatives. True, there are some other translators, even paid alternatives but their quality just isn't there yet and for the most part they are not even comparable, at any cost. The Google translator was the first and by far the best of it ilk. Just its API being out there has decimated all its competition and when it leaves the stage it may take a number of years for a viable alternative to match it very complex phase analysis and data indepth data sources. I do not believe that it is even possible as Google has been using the knowledge of thousnads of users which have been assisting the product by correcting their translator and no other paid for translator has had thousand of people, world wide, working for free just to support and improve it. I would love to see the API being turned over to the Open Source community then it might very well become the ultimate translator and such a situation as now, would never happen again. If you need further proof, just compare Google's spell checking capabilities against a Microsoft's paid for spell checker and we have a similar comparison...or not. So we shall see. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 2:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google madness Anyone who relies on a free service provided by a third party should expect to have to find an alternative at some point in time. -- Stuart On 28 May 2011 at 10:27, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Google is shutting down its Translation API: > > http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html > > The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide > development community. Millions of web applications have learned to > depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in > their scope and capability. > > As of next November it will be no more. > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Mon May 30 02:56:55 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 08:56:55 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software In-Reply-To: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Jon and Rusty, Thanks for your suggestions, I suggested to him that he have a look at benchmarking software. And I suggested that he look out for reviews by pcmag and others to see what software they use. Mark On 19 May 2011 15:01, Rusty Hammond wrote: > To add to the Benchmarking suggestion, visit PC Magazine (www.pcmag.com) > and look over their reviews of systems. Often times when they show > benchmark results, they will also mention the software they use to do the > tests. > > HTH, > > Rusty > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tydda Jon - Slough > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:37 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic > software > > Hi Mark > > Your friend should look for "Benchmarking" software. That's what they call > it in the magazine tests. I haven't used any myself, but that's what you > need to look for. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: 17 May 2011 11:35 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software > > Hello Friends, > > I met a friend while out on my morning walk this morning and he asked me > what software I would recommend for "testing computers". > > He wants to run diagnostics on all the hardware components in machines - > laptops and desktops. I am not sure for what purpose, perhaps just for fun. > > I said that honestly, I had no idea and suggested that a search on The > Search Engine will no doubt present at least 100 > choices, but I did say I would ask a group that will surely know the best > top 2 choices. > > If you have a suggestion, please feel free to post it. > > thanks > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential > and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities > than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission > in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from > your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon May 30 08:28:31 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 09:28:31 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon In-Reply-To: References: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DE39B7F.9080707@torchlake.com> This certainly is a very interesting development. It will be fun to watch what comes of this. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > This has been posted before but the following article on Graphene adds more > to possibe next big advancement in computers: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9491789.stm > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 30 14:22:47 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:22:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Catching and banning hackers on your and your clients remote login system In-Reply-To: References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Here is an excellent little product that stops hacker from relentlessly probing for access to your and your client's remote log on features. "Fail2Ban" runs in the back-ground, multi-processing, using its own thread and monitors the system logs for repeated failures of login attempts. If it finds numerous failures from a specific IP address, the application will set a block for that address. It IP range and tolerances can be set and it runs on all the major platforms. Below is the link to the windows version. http://webscripts.softpedia.com/script/Security-Systems/Fail2ban-33560.html Hope this helps someone. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 1 05:07:50 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 03:07:50 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 2 In-Reply-To: <006801cc07b3$0f2a42b0$2d7ec810$@winhaven.net> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <00cf01cc05fa$242773f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> <4DBC14DB.3040907@torchlake.com> <08B453AF0FE949CD91C24EB01029178E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <003a01cc0763$6090a270$21b1e750$@winhaven.net> <862423AC772E4B3DA9885622E97CB8A9@creativesystemdesigns.com> <006801cc07b3$0f2a42b0$2d7ec810$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <7C83D8AD17DE4DF8953D2BDBB2F4D8D0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Ha ha ha... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:52 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 2 I understand what you're saying. I just wasn't sure if you knew what Spinrite was for (hey, not everyone uses the same tools). Just as some of us use HiJack This! and some use Autoruns. Please do post if you find discussions on these. I've probably read them before but it never hurts to read them again as this is stuff I have to deal with constantly, just as you probably have to :o( -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:12 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 2 True, but Spinrite does not clear any data as you said and once the OS starts up again, if a piece of malware is/was 'hidden' in some position on the hard drive, it is just re-tagged as a bad track and the app carries on. There was an article on the whole process of these new super bugs but I can not even remember when and where I read it, but I will definitely post it if it appears up. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun May 1 10:40:14 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 11:40:14 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 3 In-Reply-To: <00cf01cc05fa$242773f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <00cf01cc05fa$242773f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> Well, it is really coming down to a complete start over situation. Saving as many user files as I can before the complete makeover of the computer. But, I did find that the RECYCLER worm was at least one of the problems. This worm is generally transmitted by USB device. The kids bring stuff home from school on USB drives, and one of those must have been infected. The thing creates a folder called RECYCLER in the root of the drive. Still, that was not everything. Vundo was also a culprit, as was whatever PUM.Disabled.SecurityCenter is. So, today, we reconstruct that computer from the ground up. Thanks for all the suggestions and guidance. I really appreciate it. T John Bartow wrote: > Ditto on that > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:13 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here > > Better to grab a copy of ProcessExplorer and use that. I've seen systems > with TaskMgr > hijacked that I could still get into with ProcExp. > > It tells you al lot more about what is going on. > > It also lets you suspend a bunch of processes and then close then down one > at a time. It's the only way to beat those nasties that run several > instances under different names, all of which watch for each other and > restart any that are shut down. > > -- > Stuart > > On 28 Apr 2011 at 11:25, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > >> Check the taskmanager and view what Processes are >> going on... >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From gustav at cactus.dk Sun May 1 11:42:30 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 18:42:30 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System Message-ID: Hi all Anyone having experience with DFS across a WAN, like ADSL? /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 1 15:10:30 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:10:30 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36ED198842BE4A5393E4A30E5F7333D2@creativesystemdesigns.com> No, but I will send out a call to my Greek group and get back to you. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System Hi all Anyone having experience with DFS across a WAN, like ADSL? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 1 15:11:56 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:11:56 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System In-Reply-To: <36ED198842BE4A5393E4A30E5F7333D2@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <36ED198842BE4A5393E4A30E5F7333D2@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <3EA09CADDD9242E7B148A49EFF6BF86C@creativesystemdesigns.com> (I mean geek...it way just too close to lunch) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:11 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System No, but I will send out a call to my Greek group and get back to you. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:43 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows Server: DFS, Distributed File System Hi all Anyone having experience with DFS across a WAN, like ADSL? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 2 10:17:30 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 08:17:30 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The great Amazon Cloud crash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F6EC6DA70174A80BB2E2380568C5F50@creativesystemdesigns.com> After all the smoke has clearer and the Amazon Cloud web services have been restored and due to a great deal of public pressure Amazon has presented an offical explanation of the cause and reasons. http://tinyurl.com/68jg8an Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 2 11:07:36 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:07:36 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Investing in stocks In-Reply-To: <5F6EC6DA70174A80BB2E2380568C5F50@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <5F6EC6DA70174A80BB2E2380568C5F50@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <5C7F3D2141F74950BAC58A2F1C43EA2C@creativesystemdesigns.com> For all you people of there that love dabbling in the market and are not completely turned off by tech stocks, may I recommend investing in the following options that are going public in the next little while: http://tinyurl.com/4hsoqnz This is why the west coast market is great and the east coast sucks. ;-) Jim From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon May 2 14:51:54 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 15:51:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Message-ID: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> Hey John, I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and installed it with no problem. The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on this. Thanks, T From gustav at cactus.dk Mon May 2 15:38:50 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:38:50 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Message-ID: Hi Tina Eh .. .. didn't you just answer your question yourself? /gustav >>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 02-05-2011 21:51 >>> Hey John, I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and installed it with no problem. The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on this. Thanks, T From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon May 2 16:56:53 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:56:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict - solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DBF28A5.4070908@torchlake.com> Hi Gustav, As it happens, yes I did. But, I still don't get why my original setup file doesn't work. It works fine in my WinXP machines. But, yes, I did use the new download and now all is well. I was just logging on to tell John that I'm okay now, when I saw your note. Thanks, T Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Tina > > Eh .. .. didn't you just answer your question yourself? > > /gustav > > > >>>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 02-05-2011 21:51 >>> >>>> > Hey John, > > I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows > balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with > this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. > > Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and > installed it with no problem. > > The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup > program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a > fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on > this. > > Thanks, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From john at winhaven.net Mon May 2 17:33:50 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:33:50 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> Hi Tina, I don't think your original version will install on Windows 7. I haven't run into this because I download the latest version each time the release one so I'm starting without the need for program updates. Vipre: http://go.sunbeltsoftware.com/?linkid=411 Vipre Premium: http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=405 CounterSpy: http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=410 I also manually download the latest definitions every day or two so that I don't have wait for the full definition to download for each install I do. But I do this multiple times a week so you may not need to do that. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/Definitions/ FWIW I don't order the CDs for very much anymore. They're usually out of date when you need them. I just make sure I have a copy of my license rights stored where I can find it. HTH John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:52 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Hey John, I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and installed it with no problem. The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on this. Thanks, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon May 2 17:36:11 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:36:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict - solved In-Reply-To: <4DBF28A5.4070908@torchlake.com> References: <4DBF28A5.4070908@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <003401cc0919$56e06280$04a12780$@winhaven.net> We just crossed emails ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict - solved Hi Gustav, As it happens, yes I did. But, I still don't get why my original setup file doesn't work. It works fine in my WinXP machines. But, yes, I did use the new download and now all is well. I was just logging on to tell John that I'm okay now, when I saw your note. Thanks, T Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Tina > > Eh .. .. didn't you just answer your question yourself? > > /gustav > > > >>>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 02-05-2011 21:51 >>> >>>> > Hey John, > > I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows > balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with > this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. > > Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and > installed it with no problem. > > The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre > setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week > was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your > guidance on this. > > Thanks, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon May 2 19:21:08 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:21:08 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <6E0264AE5FE04B8DBC1557EAD63DAF3C@HAL9005> John: I switched to Microsoft Security Essentials. Seems to work OK. But I have no way of knowing because I almost never get viruses. Just clean livin' I guess. I switched from AVG. Anything to recommend Vipre over MSE? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:34 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Hi Tina, I don't think your original version will install on Windows 7. I haven't run into this because I download the latest version each time the release one so I'm starting without the need for program updates. Vipre: http://go.sunbeltsoftware.com/?linkid=411 Vipre Premium: http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=405 CounterSpy: http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=410 I also manually download the latest definitions every day or two so that I don't have wait for the full definition to download for each install I do. But I do this multiple times a week so you may not need to do that. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/Definitions/ FWIW I don't order the CDs for very much anymore. They're usually out of date when you need them. I just make sure I have a copy of my license rights stored where I can find it. HTH John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:52 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Hey John, I just tried installing Vipre on my new Windows 7 computer and Windows balked. It said "Driver blocked" and "Counterspy is incompatible with this version of Windows" and told me to contact Sunbelt about the issue. Last week I downloaded Vipre for another Windows 7 computer and installed it with no problem. The installation I tried to do today begins with my original Vipre setup program, from a couple of years ago. The one I did last week was a fresh download. Does that explain the issue? I'd like your guidance on this. Thanks, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon May 2 21:18:12 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 21:18:12 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <6E0264AE5FE04B8DBC1557EAD63DAF3C@HAL9005> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> <6E0264AE5FE04B8DBC1557EAD63DAF3C@HAL9005> Message-ID: <004a01cc0938$5a646810$0f2d3830$@winhaven.net> Hi Rocky, I've been testing MSE and holding my breath hoping that I could eventually start recommending MSE over Avira Free AV. It has made good gains both in detection rates and resource usage but unfortunately it recently got whapped pretty bad with an infection that caused a lot of problems. But IMO you are still better off with MSE than AVG. Have you noticed that your PCs is a little more responsive since you switched? For someone that never gets infected though, what can I say? Well, I guess I can say "where were you during our discussion on the percentage of infected PCs discussion on OT? ;o) Just in case something got through that MSE didn't even notice I would recommend that you occasionally scan with VipreRescue (a free command line scanner and removal tool version of Vipre - completely non-preventative though). It's simple to use - it copies itself to a folder and runs a full scan and removes anything it finds. It runs in a command window. If you care to, you can browse through the log file it creates. And also with MalwareBytes. Its pretty simple to use too and is very good at detecting and removing the scareware/scamware Trojans, etc. http://live.sunbeltsoftware.com/Download/ http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html ?part=dl-10804572&subj=dl&tag=button As far as benefits of Vipre over MSE: Better preventative detection rates Less CPU/RAM resource usage US based technical support for problems and malware removal (nothing is perfect - so it is nice to have someone you can understand clean up anything that gets through). Benefits of MSE: Its free (Vipre costs $30 for one and $50 for all of the computers in your house) HTH John B From tinanfields at torchlake.com Tue May 3 06:26:30 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 07:26:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <4DBFE666.6080401@torchlake.com> Hi John, I do keep a copy of my Vipre registration handy. What I haven't mastered is going to the site and downloading fresh versions under my license. The web site changes enough between my visit times that I don't know where anything is. So, I have simply downloaded as though for a trial, done my install, and added my registration. There must be a better way. Please instruct me - I am trainable. It's time for me to get serious about being an affiliate of Sunbelt Software, and putting information about it on my web site (and, updating my web site, for that matter)! Too many irons in the fire! But, one does have to earn a living. Thanks for your friendly guidance, T John Bartow wrote: > Hi Tina, > I don't think your original version will install on Windows 7. I haven't run > into this because I download the latest version each time the release one so > I'm starting without the need for program updates. > Vipre: > http://go.sunbeltsoftware.com/?linkid=411 > > Vipre Premium: > http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=405 > > CounterSpy: > http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=410 > > > I also manually download the latest definitions every day or two so that I > don't have wait for the full definition to download for each install I do. > But I do this multiple times a week so you may not need to do that. > http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/Definitions/ > > > FWIW I don't order the CDs for very much anymore. They're usually out of > date when you need them. I just make sure I have a copy of my license rights > stored where I can find it. > > HTH > John B > > > From john at winhaven.net Tue May 3 11:12:40 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:12:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict In-Reply-To: <4DBFE666.6080401@torchlake.com> References: <4DBF0B5A.5020405@torchlake.com> <003301cc0919$02af5860$080e0920$@winhaven.net> <4DBFE666.6080401@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <004e01cc09ac$ed7b56d0$c8720470$@winhaven.net> Yes the web site is going through major changes since GFI bought Sunbelt Software. GFI obviously has a lot more marketing experience and is marketing more aggressively than Sunbelt ever did. I see ads for Vipre all over the place. But the links I posted are the same links as a couple of years ago. The only link they've changer (well removed actually) was the one to the "latest definition file" which was really handy because I never had to go to a web site to download the latest definitions just run a shortcut command that downloaded the file. I raised a stink about it but apparently I'm the only one that ever used it because no one on the forums chimed in with support for my plea to reinstate it. Yea, the affiliate thing has changed a lot too since GFI took over. They had their own affiliate management methods. I haven't updated any of my web links since so I don't even know if I'm getting credit for anything. Not the point of me doing it anyway 99% of the links I've posted over the years got me nothing but these days, a little kickback doesn't hurt ;o) You always welcome my friend! John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:27 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] John Bartow - Windows 7 - Vipre conflict Hi John, I do keep a copy of my Vipre registration handy. What I haven't mastered is going to the site and downloading fresh versions under my license. The web site changes enough between my visit times that I don't know where anything is. So, I have simply downloaded as though for a trial, done my install, and added my registration. There must be a better way. Please instruct me - I am trainable. It's time for me to get serious about being an affiliate of Sunbelt Software, and putting information about it on my web site (and, updating my web site, for that matter)! Too many irons in the fire! But, one does have to earn a living. Thanks for your friendly guidance, T John Bartow wrote: > Hi Tina, > I don't think your original version will install on Windows 7. I > haven't run into this because I download the latest version each time > the release one so I'm starting without the need for program updates. > Vipre: > http://go.sunbeltsoftware.com/?linkid=411 > > Vipre Premium: > http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=405 > > CounterSpy: > http://go.sunbelt-software.com/?linkid=410 > > > I also manually download the latest definitions every day or two so > that I don't have wait for the full definition to download for each install I do. > But I do this multiple times a week so you may not need to do that. > http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/Definitions/ > > > FWIW I don't order the CDs for very much anymore. They're usually out > of date when you need them. I just make sure I have a copy of my > license rights stored where I can find it. > > HTH > John B > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue May 3 13:24:39 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:24:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds Message-ID: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color carts. What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. What's your top choices? Rocky From df.waters at comcast.net Tue May 3 13:32:52 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:32:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer Message-ID: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net> I use a Canon Pixma MX870. Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, wireless/wired. Current $130. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color carts. What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. What's your top choices? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 3 14:12:08 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:12:08 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds In-Reply-To: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> References: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> Message-ID: <0030BB01B1CD46D5854D5F0A317D85FF@creativesystemdesigns.com> I could suggest a Canon MP540. It has two paper sources (one can print card stock and photo quality paper), scanning and copying capabilities, full colour, two black reservoirs, one for photo colour reproduction and one large black-ink reservoir for black and white printing. It is not a heavy duty office work horse but it is really cheap...how cheap; I do not know, but bought mine for $52. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:25 AM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color carts. What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. What's your top choices? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue May 3 14:14:26 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:14:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net> References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. Scanning is a big plus. I'm not faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. OK, good call. All-in-one. I've had a few Pixma's here. Mostly because every time I went to buy a flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've been reliable. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer I use a Canon Pixma MX870. Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, wireless/wired. Current $130. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color carts. What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. What's your top choices? Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Tue May 3 15:16:45 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:16:45 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net> <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> Message-ID: I thought I remembered you saying you had a stack of spare printers in the garage. I was wondering why you wouldn't send him one of those. I've bought exactly 3 printers since 1990. All HPs. . Current one was bought in 2004. Works fine. Windows Vista and 7 say they don't have the perfect driver for it but they still work fine with it. The drivers for those OS's won't let me use some of the printers features like Duplex and the dedicated Photo Paper paper hopper. It connects via ethernet to the router which I like quite a lot verses connecting directly to the computer itself. It's a wired connection. But there are wireless ones now too. How does it connect? is another thing to consider. My current HP uses pretty expensive cartridges. But they last a long time. I replace them about once a year and I do print quite a bit. It's a photo printer so it's got 2 color cartridges plus a Black one. I pay about $100 for a full set. They might last more than a year though now that I think about it. With the HP cartridges you get new printer heads when you get new cartridges too. But that is why they cost more I suppose. Here is mine - again, I bought it in 2004 http://reviews.cnet.com/inkjet-printers/hp-photosmart-8450/4505-3156_7-31006678.html Available starting at $650 it says. Probably not worth that much Good luck with your choice. GK On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. ?Scanning is a big plus. ?I'm not > faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. > > OK, good call. ?All-in-one. > > I've had a few Pixma's here. ? Mostly because every time I went to ?buy a > flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've been > reliable. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer > > I use a Canon Pixma MX870. ?Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink cartridges, > duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, wireless/wired. ?Current $130. > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-key > words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM > To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds > > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. ?So I said I'd shop one > up for him and have it shipped. ?Initially survey reveals that there are > approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. ?Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or > third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually much > less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have > (do they even make mono printers any more?) ?which means separate color > carts. > > What else? ?8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger > Direct, etc. ?Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Tue May 3 15:32:31 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 15:32:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds In-Reply-To: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> References: <4A37C3DA73DA4E159B188C6705B33CA9@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4DC0665F.5020808@earthlink.net> We've had two Brother MFCs for several years, a 445 and a 665, each for about $100, each still prints, scans, photocopies and faxes flawlessly. 3P cartridges come in at $1-$2 each and work fine. I think the current versions of these models are MFC-795 at $110 amd MFCJ265W at $100. PB ----- On 5/3/2011 1:24 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd shop one > up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals that there are > approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM or > third party, 3) low duty - certainly<100 sheets per day - usually much > less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good thing to have > (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means separate color > carts. > > What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, Tiger > Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue May 3 15:42:48 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 06:42:48 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net>, <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4DC068C8.5038.1737BD40@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> No particular suggestions, but for someone at college, keep it as small a footprint as possible and look at wireless/bluetooth connectivity. -- Stuart On 3 May 2011 at 12:14, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. Scanning is a big plus. I'm not > faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. > > OK, good call. All-in-one. > > I've had a few Pixma's here. Mostly because every time I went to > buy a flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've > been reliable. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer > > I use a Canon Pixma MX870. Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink > cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, > wireless/wired. Current $130. > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&fie > ld-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds > > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd > shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals > that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM > or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually > much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good > thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means > separate color carts. > > What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, > Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue May 3 15:47:20 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:47:20 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net><5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> Message-ID: <92404B7F311F44F385597433171912D9@HAL9005> I didn't want to send him a used one. Probably cost $50 to ship anyway. The MX870 is $130 including shipping and the carts ARE cheap. I've got one good one in the garage - a Samsung color laser but the cartridges are so expensive I don't use it. I've got two for my use - Samsung CLP-300 color laser and a Lexmark all-in-one wireless. Pundit has an old canon that refuses to die and Noah's got a newer one at his desk. The rest have been recycled. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:17 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer I thought I remembered you saying you had a stack of spare printers in the garage. I was wondering why you wouldn't send him one of those. I've bought exactly 3 printers since 1990. All HPs. . Current one was bought in 2004. Works fine. Windows Vista and 7 say they don't have the perfect driver for it but they still work fine with it. The drivers for those OS's won't let me use some of the printers features like Duplex and the dedicated Photo Paper paper hopper. It connects via ethernet to the router which I like quite a lot verses connecting directly to the computer itself. It's a wired connection. But there are wireless ones now too. How does it connect? is another thing to consider. My current HP uses pretty expensive cartridges. But they last a long time. I replace them about once a year and I do print quite a bit. It's a photo printer so it's got 2 color cartridges plus a Black one. I pay about $100 for a full set. They might last more than a year though now that I think about it. With the HP cartridges you get new printer heads when you get new cartridges too. But that is why they cost more I suppose. Here is mine - again, I bought it in 2004 http://reviews.cnet.com/inkjet-printers/hp-photosmart-8450/4505-3156_7-31006 678.html Available starting at $650 it says. Probably not worth that much Good luck with your choice. GK On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. ?Scanning is a big plus. ?I'm not > faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. > > OK, good call. ?All-in-one. > > I've had a few Pixma's here. ? Mostly because every time I went to ? > buy a flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've > been reliable. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer > > I use a Canon Pixma MX870. ?Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink > cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, wireless/wired. ?Current $130. > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&fie > ld-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM > To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds > > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. ?So I said I'd > shop one up for him and have it shipped. ?Initially survey reveals > that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. ?Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM > or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually > much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good > thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) ?which means > separate color carts. > > What else? ?8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, > Tiger Direct, etc. ?Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue May 3 16:25:11 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 14:25:11 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Printer In-Reply-To: <4DC068C8.5038.1737BD40@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <005301cc09c0$84b5cea0$8e216be0$@comcast.net>, <5B836851D3934BCDBCBA2999AAB643F4@HAL9005> <4DC068C8.5038.1737BD40@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <3DFD55B7D70E4391BBB344DDD276BADA@HAL9005> Yes, good point - smaller is better. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:43 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer No particular suggestions, but for someone at college, keep it as small a footprint as possible and look at wireless/bluetooth connectivity. -- Stuart On 3 May 2011 at 12:14, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Ooh, all-in-one - forgot about that. Scanning is a big plus. I'm not > faxing anymore - or very little - I scan to a pdf and email. > > OK, good call. All-in-one. > > I've had a few Pixma's here. Mostly because every time I went to > buy a flat screen monitor, they gave one free wit the monitor. They've > been reliable. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:33 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and > Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer > > I use a Canon Pixma MX870. Color, inexpensive 3rd party ink > cartridges, duplex printing, scanning, copying, faxing, > wireless/wired. Current $130. > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&fie > ld-key words=canon+pixma+mx870&x=0&y=0&sprefix=canon+pixma+mx870 > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:25 PM To: 'Off Topic'; List > Subject: [dba-Tech] Not as easy as it sounds > > Max, my son who is at Northwestern, needs a printer. So I said I'd > shop one up for him and have it shipped. Initially survey reveals > that there are approximately 3.6 million printers available. > > So I'm going to ask for recommendations. Printer should be 1) fairly > inexpensive (he's pretty hard on his electronics so it may need to be > replaced in a year), 2) have inexpensive replacement carts, either OEM > or third party, 3) low duty - certainly <100 sheets per day - usually > much less, 4) he says color's not necessary but I think it's a good > thing to have (do they even make mono printers any more?) which means > separate color carts. > > What else? 8 1/2 x 11-14 is fine. > > Vendor's no problem - I can have it drop shipped from Fry's, Amazon, > Tiger Direct, etc. Just need to decide on a printer. > > What's your top choices? > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu May 5 07:35:05 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 14:35:05 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Message-ID: Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav From erbachs at gmail.com Thu May 5 09:34:34 2011 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:34:34 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server Message-ID: Dear Group, The network guy who set up my client's Windows 2003 Server also set up remote access. He used a public DNS outfit to create a domain name which is what we use for VPN. Then he also set up one of the network adapters with an internal IP address of 10.0.0.15...so when one runs Windows Remote Desktop, the IP address to type in is 10.0.0.15. Fine. This all works. The only problem is (well, not the ONLY problem...the network guy went to jail and has been incommunicado since...and I have only a simple knowledge of network protocols and such) that the VPN setup isn't set up properly. I say that because this morning I discovered that one can simply fire up Windows Remote Desktop, type in the real IP address, and log right in. (One additional problem is that the owner of the company has network administrator rights...but NO PASSWORD!!??!!!) So my question is, what do I have to do to ensure that Remote Desktop access ONLY goes through the VPN? Do we have to set up the VPN from the server itself? I thought that that had been done, but now I'm not so sure. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 5 11:14:03 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:14:03 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5035E1B2F1604280AFA7FE768B4FB1C5@creativesystemdesigns.com> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu May 5 11:33:20 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 18:33:20 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Message-ID: Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 5 11:47:13 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:47:13 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Steve: You will note that you can only access the VPN via a computer setup to run over the VPN. I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. The VPN just extends that capability to computers that may be remote. Check also that the VPN station does not also supply the username and password to ease access. The environment in which you describe is fairly typical for a lot of companies. In one company, once logged into the VPN, a person can see every node in 40 states and 12 provinces and you could easily print an invoice to some printer in Georgia. Though this is not a very secure system it is fairly common. You should be able to go into the VPN client on the stations and remove the auto login feature. For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the product it is standard in its features and scope. Jim PS First backup anything you are fixing as it can be easy to lose important credentials. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:35 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server Dear Group, The network guy who set up my client's Windows 2003 Server also set up remote access. He used a public DNS outfit to create a domain name which is what we use for VPN. Then he also set up one of the network adapters with an internal IP address of 10.0.0.15...so when one runs Windows Remote Desktop, the IP address to type in is 10.0.0.15. Fine. This all works. The only problem is (well, not the ONLY problem...the network guy went to jail and has been incommunicado since...and I have only a simple knowledge of network protocols and such) that the VPN setup isn't set up properly. I say that because this morning I discovered that one can simply fire up Windows Remote Desktop, type in the real IP address, and log right in. (One additional problem is that the owner of the company has network administrator rights...but NO PASSWORD!!??!!!) So my question is, what do I have to do to ensure that Remote Desktop access ONLY goes through the VPN? Do we have to set up the VPN from the server itself? I thought that that had been done, but now I'm not so sure. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 5 12:07:34 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:07:34 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <757E6936938344DC85428F2449184039@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: That is the trouble with these rack mounted units. They all tend to be so over-clocked that without the appropriate fans they would fail within a few minutes ;-) In all server rooms I have been in they are the reason the telephones have their volumes turned up to the max. ...and I am yet to run across a quiet unit. If the client wants quiet they buy a server in a box. If you do find one let me know...but I bet the unit will be priced appropriately. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:33 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Thu May 5 12:23:53 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:23:53 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? In-Reply-To: <757E6936938344DC85428F2449184039@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <757E6936938344DC85428F2449184039@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <007601cc0b49$3541e1d0$9fc5a570$@winhaven.net> If you find one please let me know too! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Gustav: That is the trouble with these rack mounted units. They all tend to be so over-clocked that without the appropriate fans they would fail within a few minutes ;-) In all server rooms I have been in they are the reason the telephones have their volumes turned up to the max. ...and I am yet to run across a quiet unit. If the client wants quiet they buy a server in a box. If you do find one let me know...but I bet the unit will be priced appropriately. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:33 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri May 6 01:18:26 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 08:18:26 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Message-ID: Hi John and Jim OK, that minimized my optimism! But at least I can understand that it isn't me that have missed something. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 05-05-2011 19:23 >>> If you find one please let me know too! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Gustav: That is the trouble with these rack mounted units. They all tend to be so over-clocked that without the appropriate fans they would fail within a few minutes ;-) In all server rooms I have been in they are the reason the telephones have their volumes turned up to the max. ...and I am yet to run across a quiet unit. If the client wants quiet they buy a server in a box. If you do find one let me know...but I bet the unit will be priced appropriately. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:33 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav From john at winhaven.net Fri May 6 09:50:40 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:50:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005a01cc0bfc$f834dd60$e89e9820$@winhaven.net> Hi Gustav, I think we've defined a new market opportunity John PS I wear hearing protection in the room with rack mount servers. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:18 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi John and Jim OK, that minimized my optimism! But at least I can understand that it isn't me that have missed something. /gustav >>> john at winhaven.net 05-05-2011 19:23 >>> If you find one please let me know too! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Gustav: That is the trouble with these rack mounted units. They all tend to be so over-clocked that without the appropriate fans they would fail within a few minutes ;-) In all server rooms I have been in they are the reason the telephones have their volumes turned up to the max. ...and I am yet to run across a quiet unit. If the client wants quiet they buy a server in a box. If you do find one let me know...but I bet the unit will be priced appropriately. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:33 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi Jim Exactly. All pizza servers I've experienced have been equipped with half a dozen tiny fans running at full thrust spreading a noise like a vacuum cleaner. 2U and 3U units haven't been much better. Fujitsu manufactures some small extremely quiet servers, though not for rack mounting. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-05-2011 18:14 >>> You looking for something that doesn't sound like a jet airplane? ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Rack server, quiet? Hi all Does anyone know of a server model for 19" rack mount that doesn't come with a noise level of an A/C system? It should be quiet as a modern desktop machine. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From erbachs at gmail.com Sun May 8 14:27:07 2011 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:27:07 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Jim, >> I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. << Yep, I dig that. The company where my wife works has a similar setup...but they don't use a public DNS provider. They dial into the VPN on the company server directly. >> For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the product it is standard in its features and scope. << How does OpenVPN.net differ from DynDNS.org? Aren't they offering the same sort of service? The first network guy my client hired set up an account on DynDNS.org. That's the "public DNS outfit" I referred to. What's bothering me is that I can open Remote Desktop, type in the domain name that was set up through DynDNS.org, and get access to my client's server WITHOUT having opened the VPN connection first. That is, just now I opened a Remote Desktop session and typed in the DynDNS domain name I set up, and voil?! There's the server. If I type in my client's login name (NO password) I have complete administrative access to the server. I checked in my Windows XP Network Connections and there's the VPN entry "Disconnected". Clearly something isn't set up right. I should ONLY be able to log in to the server remotely by first establishing the VPN connection. Clearly I'm confused. Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Steve: > > You will note that you can only access the VPN via a computer setup to run > over the VPN. I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically > because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. The VPN just > extends that capability to computers that may be remote. Check also that the > VPN station does not also supply the username and password to ease access. > > The environment in which you describe is fairly typical for a lot of > companies. In one company, once logged into the VPN, a person can see every > node in 40 states and 12 provinces and you could easily print an invoice to > some printer in Georgia. Though this is not a very secure system it is > fairly common. You should be able to go into the VPN client on the stations > and remove the auto login feature. > > For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website > (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the > product it is standard in its features and scope. > > Jim > > PS First backup anything you are fixing as it can be easy to lose important > credentials. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server > > Dear Group, > > The network guy who set up my client's Windows 2003 Server also set up > remote access. ?He used a public DNS outfit to create a domain name > which is what we use for VPN. ?Then he also set up one of the network > adapters with an internal IP address of 10.0.0.15...so when one runs > Windows Remote Desktop, the IP address to type in is 10.0.0.15. ?Fine. > ?This all works. > > The only problem is (well, not the ONLY problem...the network guy went > to jail and has been incommunicado since...and I have only a simple > knowledge of network protocols and such) that the VPN setup isn't set > up properly. ?I say that because this morning I discovered that one > can simply fire up Windows Remote Desktop, type in the real IP > address, and log right in. (One additional problem is that the owner > of the company has network administrator rights...but NO > PASSWORD!!??!!!) > > So my question is, what do I have to do to ensure that Remote Desktop > access ONLY goes through the VPN? ?Do we have to set up the VPN from > the server itself? ?I thought that that had been done, but now I'm not > so sure. > > Regards, > > Steve Erbach From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 8 16:24:14 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:24:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: References: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: OpenDNS works similar to Hamachi or LogMeIn (who owns Hamachi) in that they all run from central servers just like the Cloud does. The beauty of the whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. This is important as large organizations have multiple IP addresses and the central senior techs may be required to move a subnet or IP address from one location another or your ISP may change you IP addresses at certain occasions. Because your office DNS VPN system is in constant contact, with its central servers so all the connections are automatically adjusted (IP addresses). Where this form of tethering of remote users is superior to Hamachi and LogMeIn is that that company uses special IP addresses like 5.x.x.x and ports which are designed to slip under your firewall protection. OpenDNS uses standard ports like port 80 or 8080 that will not ever be blocked by any Firewall. By default OpenDNS uses 256 bit encryption which protects communication between your office host and where ever the remote may be located. Example: A remote user may be calling from a very insecure Wi-Fi connection in some coffee shop and through their router. You can of course run a VPN service from your own servers but it is hardly worth it, especially if the site owner does not want to have a full time tech running things. VPN servers by their nature are extreme complex. It is similar to those efforts of some companies that are still installing and maintaining Exchange servers to handle their mail but again if the host owner can not afford a full-time tech it is safer to just move to some Cloud services like GMail. I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault of the of your DNS services. If there is some code on the remote computers that allows the storage and use of credentials, through the DNS VPN service, to automate the login the remote user, that again is something outside you have to personally resolve and it is not the fault of any DNS VPN services. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:27 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server Jim, >> I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. << Yep, I dig that. The company where my wife works has a similar setup...but they don't use a public DNS provider. They dial into the VPN on the company server directly. >> For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the product it is standard in its features and scope. << How does OpenVPN.net differ from DynDNS.org? Aren't they offering the same sort of service? The first network guy my client hired set up an account on DynDNS.org. That's the "public DNS outfit" I referred to. What's bothering me is that I can open Remote Desktop, type in the domain name that was set up through DynDNS.org, and get access to my client's server WITHOUT having opened the VPN connection first. That is, just now I opened a Remote Desktop session and typed in the DynDNS domain name I set up, and voil?! There's the server. If I type in my client's login name (NO password) I have complete administrative access to the server. I checked in my Windows XP Network Connections and there's the VPN entry "Disconnected". Clearly something isn't set up right. I should ONLY be able to log in to the server remotely by first establishing the VPN connection. Clearly I'm confused. Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Steve: > > You will note that you can only access the VPN via a computer setup to run > over the VPN. I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically > because that IP range can only be used within an intranet. The VPN just > extends that capability to computers that may be remote. Check also that the > VPN station does not also supply the username and password to ease access. > > The environment in which you describe is fairly typical for a lot of > companies. In one company, once logged into the VPN, a person can see every > node in 40 states and 12 provinces and you could easily print an invoice to > some printer in Georgia. Though this is not a very secure system it is > fairly common. You should be able to go into the VPN client on the stations > and remove the auto login feature. > > For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website > (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the > product it is standard in its features and scope. > > Jim > > PS First backup anything you are fixing as it can be easy to lose important > credentials. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:35 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server > > Dear Group, > > The network guy who set up my client's Windows 2003 Server also set up > remote access. ?He used a public DNS outfit to create a domain name > which is what we use for VPN. ?Then he also set up one of the network > adapters with an internal IP address of 10.0.0.15...so when one runs > Windows Remote Desktop, the IP address to type in is 10.0.0.15. ?Fine. > ?This all works. > > The only problem is (well, not the ONLY problem...the network guy went > to jail and has been incommunicado since...and I have only a simple > knowledge of network protocols and such) that the VPN setup isn't set > up properly. ?I say that because this morning I discovered that one > can simply fire up Windows Remote Desktop, type in the real IP > address, and log right in. (One additional problem is that the owner > of the company has network administrator rights...but NO > PASSWORD!!??!!!) > > So my question is, what do I have to do to ensure that Remote Desktop > access ONLY goes through the VPN? ?Do we have to set up the VPN from > the server itself? ?I thought that that had been done, but now I'm not > so sure. > > Regards, > > Steve Erbach _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From erbachs at gmail.com Sun May 8 19:18:42 2011 From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 19:18:42 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: References: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Jim, >> The beauty of the whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. << I dig. It does, indeed, sound similar to the service that DynDNS.org provides. At least for personal workstations, DynDNS.org provides software that senses a change in a dynamic IP address and sends the new address to DynDNS.org. >> I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault of the of your DNS services. << Not looking to place blame. I'm just confused as to what is happening. The network guy (who is incommunicado) set up my client's HP server to do everything: file server, DNS server, DHCP server, Terminal Server, VPN Server, Domain Controller, WINS server...the whole ball of wax. Not being well-versed in Windows Server 2003, I've been trying to pick it up as I go along. My feeling is that the network guy didn't set the server up properly himself...especially with respect to the VPN. Thanks for your insights. It does appear that I'll need to recommend that the owner of the company find someone who can evaluate what's going on. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > OpenDNS works similar to Hamachi or LogMeIn (who owns Hamachi) in that they > all run from central servers just like the Cloud does. The beauty of the > whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your > home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. > > This is important as large organizations have multiple IP addresses and the > central senior techs may be required to move a subnet or IP address from one > location another or your ISP may change you IP addresses at certain > occasions. > > Because your office DNS VPN system is in constant contact, with its central > servers so all the connections are automatically adjusted (IP addresses). > Where this form of tethering of remote users is superior to Hamachi and > LogMeIn is that that company uses special IP addresses like 5.x.x.x and > ports which are designed to slip under your firewall protection. OpenDNS > uses standard ports like port 80 or 8080 that will not ever be blocked by > any Firewall. By default OpenDNS uses 256 bit encryption which protects > communication between your office host and where ever the remote may be > located. Example: A remote user may be calling from a very insecure Wi-Fi > connection in some coffee shop and through their router. > > You can of course run a VPN service from your own servers but it is hardly > worth it, especially if the site owner does not want to have a full time > tech running things. VPN servers by their nature are extreme complex. It is > similar to those efforts of some companies that are still installing and > maintaining Exchange servers to handle their mail but again if the host > owner can not afford a full-time tech it is safer to just move to some Cloud > services like GMail. > > I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; > no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there > is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site > directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault > of the of your DNS services. If there is some code on the remote computers > that allows the storage and use of credentials, through the DNS VPN service, > to automate the login the remote user, that again is something outside you > have to personally resolve and it is not the fault of any DNS VPN services. > > HTH > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:27 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server > > Jim, > >>> I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that > IP range can only be used within an intranet. << > > Yep, I dig that. ?The company where my wife works has a similar > setup...but they don't use a public DNS provider. ?They dial into the > VPN on the company server directly. > >>> For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website > (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the > product it is standard in its features and scope. << > > How does OpenVPN.net differ from DynDNS.org? ?Aren't they offering the > same sort of service? ?The first network guy my client hired set up an > account on DynDNS.org. ?That's the "public DNS outfit" I referred to. > > What's bothering me is that I can open Remote Desktop, type in the > domain name that was set up through DynDNS.org, and get access to my > client's server WITHOUT having opened the VPN connection first. ?That > is, just now I opened a Remote Desktop session and typed in the DynDNS > domain name I set up, and voil?! ?There's the server. ?If I type in my > client's login name (NO password) I have complete administrative > access to the server. ?I checked in my Windows XP Network Connections > and there's the VPN entry "Disconnected". > > Clearly something isn't set up right. ?I should ONLY be able to log in > to the server remotely by first establishing the VPN connection. > > Clearly I'm confused. > > Steve Erbach From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 8 19:48:04 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 17:48:04 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server In-Reply-To: References: <7E7B0157E57044D7B5D6E48A81D14FAB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4E1ED22E47F043028636508F3FF0CF1D@creativesystemdesigns.com> Just remember there are three parts to DNS VPN services: 1. The client end. That is the component set up on each station remote of otherwise. 2. The server end. That is the set of components that manages all the clients and that is hosted on the client's site. 3. The connection point. This is the point where all the stations and server tether around. Consider the setup like ships, a harbour and a lighthouse. The ship is the stations, the harbour is the client's host server and the lighthouse is position and connection from which both station and server use as the guiding light. My son-in-law is an absolute expert with these types of products, and if you need help, I would connect him in London, where he is presently. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:19 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server Jim, >> The beauty of the whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. << I dig. It does, indeed, sound similar to the service that DynDNS.org provides. At least for personal workstations, DynDNS.org provides software that senses a change in a dynamic IP address and sends the new address to DynDNS.org. >> I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault of the of your DNS services. << Not looking to place blame. I'm just confused as to what is happening. The network guy (who is incommunicado) set up my client's HP server to do everything: file server, DNS server, DHCP server, Terminal Server, VPN Server, Domain Controller, WINS server...the whole ball of wax. Not being well-versed in Windows Server 2003, I've been trying to pick it up as I go along. My feeling is that the network guy didn't set the server up properly himself...especially with respect to the VPN. Thanks for your insights. It does appear that I'll need to recommend that the owner of the company find someone who can evaluate what's going on. Regards, Steve Erbach Neenah, WI On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > OpenDNS works similar to Hamachi or LogMeIn (who owns Hamachi) in that they > all run from central servers just like the Cloud does. The beauty of the > whole scenario is that the OpenDNS is that you can always get into your > home/office site regardless if the IP address ever changes. > > This is important as large organizations have multiple IP addresses and the > central senior techs may be required to move a subnet or IP address from one > location another or your ISP may change you IP addresses at certain > occasions. > > Because your office DNS VPN system is in constant contact, with its central > servers so all the connections are automatically adjusted (IP addresses). > Where this form of tethering of remote users is superior to Hamachi and > LogMeIn is that that company uses special IP addresses like 5.x.x.x and > ports which are designed to slip under your firewall protection. OpenDNS > uses standard ports like port 80 or 8080 that will not ever be blocked by > any Firewall. By default OpenDNS uses 256 bit encryption which protects > communication between your office host and where ever the remote may be > located. Example: A remote user may be calling from a very insecure Wi-Fi > connection in some coffee shop and through their router. > > You can of course run a VPN service from your own servers but it is hardly > worth it, especially if the site owner does not want to have a full time > tech running things. VPN servers by their nature are extreme complex. It is > similar to those efforts of some companies that are still installing and > maintaining Exchange servers to handle their mail but again if the host > owner can not afford a full-time tech it is safer to just move to some Cloud > services like GMail. > > I have no idea what the issues are at your site but if it is as you explain; > no validation or VPN services are being used during connect times then there > is something wrong. If you are not connecting to the Host office site > directly and not going through a DNS VPN server then it is hardly the fault > of the of your DNS services. If there is some code on the remote computers > that allows the storage and use of credentials, through the DNS VPN service, > to automate the login the remote user, that again is something outside you > have to personally resolve and it is not the fault of any DNS VPN services. > > HTH > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:27 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Remote Desktop on a server > > Jim, > >>> I can not enter 10.0.0.15 and access your VPN specifically because that > IP range can only be used within an intranet. << > > Yep, I dig that. ?The company where my wife works has a similar > setup...but they don't use a public DNS provider. ?They dial into the > VPN on the company server directly. > >>> For a further general information, on VPNs go to OpenVPN website > (http://openvpn.net/) and though the documentation is specific to the > product it is standard in its features and scope. << > > How does OpenVPN.net differ from DynDNS.org? ?Aren't they offering the > same sort of service? ?The first network guy my client hired set up an > account on DynDNS.org. ?That's the "public DNS outfit" I referred to. > > What's bothering me is that I can open Remote Desktop, type in the > domain name that was set up through DynDNS.org, and get access to my > client's server WITHOUT having opened the VPN connection first. ?That > is, just now I opened a Remote Desktop session and typed in the DynDNS > domain name I set up, and voil?! ?There's the server. ?If I type in my > client's login name (NO password) I have complete administrative > access to the server. ?I checked in my Windows XP Network Connections > and there's the VPN entry "Disconnected". > > Clearly something isn't set up right. ?I should ONLY be able to log in > to the server remotely by first establishing the VPN connection. > > Clearly I'm confused. > > Steve Erbach _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon May 9 10:08:17 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 17:08:17 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] VHD to Boot off the Metal Message-ID: Hi all This was new to me. Not that you can boot from a VHD, but that you don't need an OS to host the VHD of which you can have several. Nothing fancy, just clever use of Windows 7's DISKPART and BCDBOOT: Installing a Fresh Windows OS to a New Bootable VHD with no Host OS for Boot to VHD http://johnpapa.net/bootoffmetal By John Papa. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 9 10:53:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:53:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] VHD to Boot off the Metal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: That article has a 'what' factor to it...or how is that possible. But it is all real and very interesting. I have not figured where and why I would deploy this but I can envision a series of virtual OS blanks being generated very fast. ;-) Just a note: There is a script error but it was caught by someone in the comments section. Thanks for posting. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:08 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] VHD to Boot off the Metal Hi all This was new to me. Not that you can boot from a VHD, but that you don't need an OS to host the VHD of which you can have several. Nothing fancy, just clever use of Windows 7's DISKPART and BCDBOOT: Installing a Fresh Windows OS to a New Bootable VHD with no Host OS for Boot to VHD http://johnpapa.net/bootoffmetal By John Papa. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 12 00:34:05 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:34:05 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB drive, at least 4GB. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com puter/ Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 12 00:45:09 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:45:09 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB drive, at least 4GB. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com puter/ Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 12 00:50:27 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:50:27 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that just appeared up as I was searching: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook -laptop Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB drive, at least 4GB. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com puter/ Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Thu May 12 22:01:12 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 22:01:12 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now there are 2 billion (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. PB On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that > just appeared up as I was searching: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook > -laptop > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB > drive, at least 4GB. > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com > puter/ > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 12 23:36:01 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 21:36:01 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> Is 'free' a good price? I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a major player but like the browser market there will be a half dozen other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now there are 2 billion (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. PB On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that > just appeared up as I was searching: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook > -laptop > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB > drive, at least 4GB. > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com > puter/ > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Fri May 13 03:32:29 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 09:32:29 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows but I > have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In twenty years, I > suspect that Windows will still be a major player but like the browser > market there will be a half dozen other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome > and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that > > just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB > > drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Fri May 13 03:37:39 2011 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 09:37:39 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 Martin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows > but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In > twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a major player but > like the browser market there will be a half dozen other major > players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link > > that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chro > mebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome- > > os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-re > al-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri May 13 03:51:24 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 10:51:24 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home users. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 Martin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows > but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In > twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a major player but > like the browser market there will be a half dozen other major > players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link > > that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chro > mebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome- > > os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-re > al-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri May 13 04:38:14 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 19:38:14 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: , <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <4DCCFC06.17756.5C6B3E1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Especially those that lost their data in reccent Google and Amazon cloud failures. -- Stuart On 13 May 2011 at 10:51, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their > personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think > there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home > users. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin > Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software > issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 > > Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Hi Jim, > > Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could > believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to > have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use > google docs or something similar? > > Mark > > > > > > > On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Is 'free' a good price? > > > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning > > Windows but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that > > direction. In twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a > > major player but like the browser market there will be a half dozen > > other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > > OS > > > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > > there are 2 billion > > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The > > ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced > > right. > > > > PB > > > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following > > > link that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-ch > > ro mebook > > > -laptop > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM To: 'Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download > > > Chrome OS > > > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrom > > > e- os/ > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > > > OS > > > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a- > > re al-com > > > puter/ > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri May 13 07:22:30 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 08:22:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday humour Message-ID: Not directly a joke, but recently I saw "Due Date", with Robert Downey and Zak somethingOrOther, a hilarious take on the buddy movie genre. Several scenes are so funny I almost fell out of my chair. I loved it so much I watched it again the next day. Arthur From john at winhaven.net Fri May 13 13:24:01 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:24:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 without Exchange - How do I Message-ID: <006f01cc119a$eee4a760$ccadf620$@winhaven.net> Outlook 2010 How do I make it autoreply with an Out of Office. No Exchange server. John B. PS: I don't remember this being so difficult in the past. From john at winhaven.net Fri May 13 13:36:19 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:36:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 without Exchange - How do I Message-ID: <007901cc119c$a6c41360$f44c3a20$@winhaven.net> Outlook 2010 How do I make it autoreply with an Out of Office. No Exchange server. John B. PS: I don't remember this being so difficult in the past. From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 13 15:31:26 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:31:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark: I am not sure whether that time schedule is too long. Google is actively pursuing the roll out of entire lines of super thin laptop computers with Chrome OS and renting at $28.00 a month. TechRepublic just posted such an article and asking the all important questions: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/hiner/while-it-pros-scoff-google-chromebook s-will-likely-seduce-businesses/8310?tag=nl.e101 The computers will not be for the techs or heavy users but for the 75 percent of the office workers that just do the basics, email, office etc. For us techs who make a living at roll-outs it may suggest lean picking in that area. I would recommend web based applications for the next hot set of requirements for the Chrome OS cloud world. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 1:32 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows but I > have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In twenty years, I > suspect that Windows will still be a major player but like the browser > market there will be a half dozen other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome > and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link that > > just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chromebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome-os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on an USB > > drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-real-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 13 15:35:49 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:35:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: <9E9CC014EF7A46D389E1E5243DF4AA4E@creativesystemdesigns.com> <29A08CA6B6BC4C37A7227946E5D946ED@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCC9EF8.3080705@earthlink.net> <6C8E57003DFA49E3A6A8769473D65497@creativesystemdesigns.com> <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <88C9AA7CE44942C8855D5E7A6C6B7D49@creativesystemdesigns.com> Most people trust facebook and they give no guarantee of security, in fact quite the opposite. I think it was just like "cashless society" with everyone carrying around credit and debt cards. That whole concept took a while to accept now no one even looks back. For gamers and techs that change will never happen but for the standard email and office type people... it's perfect. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 1:51 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home users. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 Martin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Hi Jim, Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use google docs or something similar? Mark On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Is 'free' a good price? > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning Windows > but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that direction. In > twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a major player but > like the browser market there will be a half dozen other major > players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > there are 2 billion > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The ChromeBook > could take a big slice of that market if it's priced right. > > PB > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following link > > that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-chro > mebook > > -laptop > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrome- > > os/ > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Lawrence > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a-re > al-com > > puter/ > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 13 15:38:20 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:38:20 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <4DCCFC06.17756.5C6B3E1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082954924AB7A65@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk> <4DCCFC06.17756.5C6B3E1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com> Wasn't it the recent Amazon crash and it was it not that anyone lost data, wasn't it that the users could not get at their data? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 2:38 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Especially those that lost their data in reccent Google and Amazon cloud failures. -- Stuart On 13 May 2011 at 10:51, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their > personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think > there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home > users. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin > Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software > issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 > > Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > Hi Jim, > > Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could > believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to > have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all use > google docs or something similar? > > Mark > > > > > > > On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Is 'free' a good price? > > > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning > > Windows but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that > > direction. In twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a > > major player but like the browser market there will be a half dozen > > other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux OSs...and others > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > > OS > > > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. Now > > there are 2 billion > > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The > > ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced > > right. > > > > PB > > > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following > > > link that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft-ch > > ro mebook > > > -laptop > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM To: 'Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download > > > Chrome OS > > > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chrom > > > e- os/ > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > > > OS > > > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or on > > > an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on-a- > > re al-com > > > puter/ > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri May 13 17:24:08 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 08:24:08 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <4DCCFC06.17756.5C6B3E1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DCDAF88.16074.883EB73@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Gmail in March this year was where people lost access to their data for several days. Amazon users in April permanently lost data -- Stuart On 13 May 2011 at 13:38, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Wasn't it the recent Amazon crash and it was it not that anyone lost > data, wasn't it that the users could not get at their data? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart > McLachlan Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 2:38 AM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome > OS > > Especially those that lost their data in reccent Google and Amazon > cloud failures. > > -- > Stuart > > On 13 May 2011 at 10:51, Tydda Jon - Slough wrote: > > > I think a lot of people will be very wary about trusting their > > personal documents, photos and whatever to a third party... I think > > there will still be a big market for a standalone systems for home > > users. > > > > > > Jon > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin > > Reid Sent: 13 May 2011 09:38 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software > > issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > My money is on Office Web Apps and Office 365 > > > > Martin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark > > Breen Sent: 13 May 2011 09:32 To: Discussion of Hardware and > > Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS > > > > Hi Jim, > > > > Do you not think that 5 years is a more likely timescale? I could > > believe that within 5 years, most houses would be more than happy to > > have a linux or Chrome based PC for home use, and that we will all > > use google docs or something similar? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 May 2011 05:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > Is 'free' a good price? > > > > > > I do not expect the market to rapidly switch over, abandoning > > > Windows but I have notices a slow but steady trend in that > > > direction. In twenty years, I suspect that Windows will still be a > > > major player but like the browser market there will be a half > > > dozen other major players. Windows, Mac, Chrome and Linux > > > OSs...and others > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > > Brawley Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:01 PM To: Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download > > > Chrome OS > > > > > > Yikes, I remember when 20 million PCs in the world seemed huge. > > > Now there are 2 billion > > > (http://www.etforecasts.com/products/ES_pcww1203.htm). The > > > ChromeBook could take a big slice of that market if it's priced > > > right. > > > > > > PB > > > > > > On 5/12/2011 12:50 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > PSS For further information and the challenge see the following > > > > link that just appeared up as I was searching: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/google-microsoft- > > > ch ro mebook > > > > -laptop > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:45 PM To: 'Discussion > > > > of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] > > > > Download Chrome OS > > > > > > > > PS Here is a more recent link with more features and details. > > > > > > > > http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-tutorials/os/download-google-chr > > > > om e- os/ > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > > > Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion > > > > of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Download > > > > Chrome OS > > > > > > > > You can now download Chrome OS and run it on a virtual drive or > > > > on an USB drive, at least 4GB. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-google-chrome-os-and-run-on- > > > a- re al-com > > > > puter/ > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain > > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other > > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If > > you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender > > immediately and delete the material from your system. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 09:17:29 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 10:17:29 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Hello All, I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so I used that. Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the work-station. With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole network. It's working beautifully, now. I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for one more student computer here. Best regards, T > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat May 14 09:32:14 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 07:32:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><00cf01cc05fa$242773f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Wow. Do you realize what new career you've just qualified yourself for? And now we know why Apple is so popular at home - plug and play - you can't do anything wrong because you can't do anything except exactly what they let you do. Which is what most home users need. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 Hello All, I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so I used that. Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the work-station. With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole network. It's working beautifully, now. I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for one more student computer here. Best regards, T > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 09:49:22 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 10:49:22 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way Message-ID: <4DCE9672.5010508@torchlake.com> Hello Friends, Well, since we've solved the puzzle for the Fields-Family computer, I can get back to one I was working on earlier. The patient is an IBM NetVista computer. I have a family member with access to a sort of electronics junkyard, where discarded items go, many of which are still quite usable, but may need a little updating, and most of which have been discarded simply to make room for newer equipment. The NetVista computer came from that source. The operating system is WinXP SP3 - I did the installation of the operating system - I set up the user accounts - I installed OpenOffice software - I installed Vipre -I was working on the updates for all the software and the OS, and all seemed to be fine until I got to one of the final updates and had to reboot the system, and it wouldn't reboot. I don't have the same detailed notes on this that I make when I know I'm dealing with a puzzle - I thought this was working perfectly - so, the sequence of events is no longer clear. However, the POST was wrong - rather than the single beep, there was a series of beeps (4 or 5 in a row). Looking up what that might mean, I found what I thought was the most likely culprit - a failing power supply. If it doesn't send a good power signal, the system won't boot. So, I bought a nice new power supply - the precise model called for by the NetVista specs - and installed it. Booted right up. Yay! I continued working on the full setup of this machine, and had it running for probably an hour when I got to another reboot - and it wouldn't. Same exact symptom. The power comes on, the initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at all. I put the computer aside for a while, because I had other things to tend to. A month later I came back to the sleuthing. Could be the CR2032 battery, after all, the machine is ancient. So, I replaced that. Booted right up. Yay! Continue setting things up just the way I will want them for a student computer in my little classroom. The system seems to be running just fine, until I reach another needed restart. Won't boot. Same exact symptom. Power on, initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at all, no matter how long I wait - waited five hours just to be sure. So, I think there is a thermal issue here. When the computer warms up, the reboot does not work. If I let the sucker sit for a week, it'll probably boot for me again just fine. Now, one of the NetVistas I already had running reliably, has developed the same apparent symptom. Reboot starts, but hangs at the display of the opening screen. Have you seen this symptom? Is it likely a thermal issue? Does it sound like a failing solder joint? Does it sound like a failing switch? Any ideas? Thanks, T From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 09:57:51 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 10:57:51 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$@winhaven.net><4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> Hi Rocky, Yeah - if they'd had to pay someone to do what I did for their computer, they'd have been at least $1K better off to just buy a new computer. But, this is family, and I do not charge family, ever. Of course, along the way, I learned an awful lot. I'm still no wireless network expert, but I know a lot more about that stuff than I did before I started. Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at insertion. My high school student granddaughter may have an understanding of just how important all this care and caution is, but my middle school and elementary school granddaughters don't. They just know they had to wait a couple of weeks while Tima (that's a combination of Tina and Grandma) figured it out and fixed it. They don't yet fully appreciate how much important "stuff" they almost lost. Their Daddy does, though. My son-in-law really loves me! :-) T Rocky Smolin wrote: > Wow. Do you realize what new career you've just qualified yourself for? > > And now we know why Apple is so popular at home - plug and play - you can't > do anything wrong because you can't do anything except exactly what they let > you do. Which is what most home users need. > > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details > going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all > the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the > Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete > re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I > did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. > I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre > installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 > was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set > was. I had a spare set, so I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. > You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced > it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also > dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal > drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my > office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the > Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, > the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year > replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector > broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened > to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with > active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - > and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather > than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the > additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB > port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a > shelf above the work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and > both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, > named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. > Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - > made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first > router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in > the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as > they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole > network. It's working beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the > time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of > my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, > or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want > to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some > errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an > administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of > harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work > station construction for the library in their house. When that is > completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for > one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 14:46:06 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 12:46:06 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and network problems. I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - Update 4 Hello All, I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so I used that. Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the work-station. With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole network. It's working beautifully, now. I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for one more student computer here. Best regards, T > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Sat May 14 15:02:21 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:02:21 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer Message-ID: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> Just got a $400 (Toshiba) laptop for my sisinlaw who does email, some websurfing, and some non-memory-hog games. My local computer store who I've dealt with since the mid 80s, just got a few in for a promotion, and they will later go for $600. Pretty nice little machine even for $600. One thing it includes is wireless network, so I don't have to cable her to the DSL modem and she can sit in her easy chair vs being chained to her dining room table like she is with the XP desktop from 2005. With wireless DSL modem, is that the same as wireless cable regarding drive by steeling bandwidth and/or snooping on her computer? If so, will simple WEP key be enough to stop it? The printer is also wireless. Do I need to do any security things there? I'm guessing that nobody can steel bandwidth or snoop via printer connection but I want to be sure. Got her a wireless keyboard/mouse as well, but I don't think there's any security issues there. Any other issues I should be aware of before I start setting it up for her. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net?? From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 15:06:26 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:06:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way In-Reply-To: <4DCE9672.5010508@torchlake.com> References: <4DCE9672.5010508@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <7C34D8680B3549AEA2EFB0CFC7CB4C69@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Tina: Check the BIOS to see what setting you have on the "over-heating" issue. Some BIOS will automatically shut down your computer when it over-heats. That over heating can be caused with a fan, either CPU fan or one for an onboard built-in video chip fans. Even if the fans are working sometimes so much dust gets into grooves of the heat-sink, or between the cooling assembly and the chip that heat just can not disperse properly. Note: 1. If you do remove the fan assemble, to clean it you should replace the heat-sink compound. (If you do not know; that is the paste that is placed on top of the chips so the chip and fan assemble can transfer heat property between them.) 2. Make sure the fans are running steadily and quickly. Sometimes dust and grit can cause them to not work properly. Carefully removing the lable (and replacing it...should be a perfect seal), on top of the fan, can gain you access to the fan bearing and a very small drop of three-in-one oil can do wonders. 3. You can also use a Can-of-air to blow away dust and dirt in small places around the fan assembles; just remember to have the computer turned off and cool before using the Air as the cold blast can damage a hot chip. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way Hello Friends, Well, since we've solved the puzzle for the Fields-Family computer, I can get back to one I was working on earlier. The patient is an IBM NetVista computer. I have a family member with access to a sort of electronics junkyard, where discarded items go, many of which are still quite usable, but may need a little updating, and most of which have been discarded simply to make room for newer equipment. The NetVista computer came from that source. The operating system is WinXP SP3 - I did the installation of the operating system - I set up the user accounts - I installed OpenOffice software - I installed Vipre -I was working on the updates for all the software and the OS, and all seemed to be fine until I got to one of the final updates and had to reboot the system, and it wouldn't reboot. I don't have the same detailed notes on this that I make when I know I'm dealing with a puzzle - I thought this was working perfectly - so, the sequence of events is no longer clear. However, the POST was wrong - rather than the single beep, there was a series of beeps (4 or 5 in a row). Looking up what that might mean, I found what I thought was the most likely culprit - a failing power supply. If it doesn't send a good power signal, the system won't boot. So, I bought a nice new power supply - the precise model called for by the NetVista specs - and installed it. Booted right up. Yay! I continued working on the full setup of this machine, and had it running for probably an hour when I got to another reboot - and it wouldn't. Same exact symptom. The power comes on, the initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at all. I put the computer aside for a while, because I had other things to tend to. A month later I came back to the sleuthing. Could be the CR2032 battery, after all, the machine is ancient. So, I replaced that. Booted right up. Yay! Continue setting things up just the way I will want them for a student computer in my little classroom. The system seems to be running just fine, until I reach another needed restart. Won't boot. Same exact symptom. Power on, initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at all, no matter how long I wait - waited five hours just to be sure. So, I think there is a thermal issue here. When the computer warms up, the reboot does not work. If I let the sucker sit for a week, it'll probably boot for me again just fine. Now, one of the NetVistas I already had running reliably, has developed the same apparent symptom. Reboot starts, but hangs at the display of the opening screen. Have you seen this symptom? Is it likely a thermal issue? Does it sound like a failing solder joint? Does it sound like a failing switch? Any ideas? Thanks, T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 15:10:12 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:10:12 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Hi Tina: In business, never charge different rates or give deals. Either charge full rate or nothing at all. Relative and neighbours seem to fall into the latter category though they do end up paying in dinners, beer and home-made wines. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:58 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 Hi Rocky, Yeah - if they'd had to pay someone to do what I did for their computer, they'd have been at least $1K better off to just buy a new computer. But, this is family, and I do not charge family, ever. Of course, along the way, I learned an awful lot. I'm still no wireless network expert, but I know a lot more about that stuff than I did before I started. Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at insertion. My high school student granddaughter may have an understanding of just how important all this care and caution is, but my middle school and elementary school granddaughters don't. They just know they had to wait a couple of weeks while Tima (that's a combination of Tina and Grandma) figured it out and fixed it. They don't yet fully appreciate how much important "stuff" they almost lost. Their Daddy does, though. My son-in-law really loves me! :-) T Rocky Smolin wrote: > Wow. Do you realize what new career you've just qualified yourself for? > > And now we know why Apple is so popular at home - plug and play - you can't > do anything wrong because you can't do anything except exactly what they let > you do. Which is what most home users need. > > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details > going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all > the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the > Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the complete > re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, I > did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral equipment. > I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre > installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 > was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original set > was. I had a spare set, so I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept dropping. > You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I replaced > it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also > dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal > drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in my > office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the > Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying that, > the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year > replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector > broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had happened > to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with > active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - > and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather > than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought the > additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB > port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a > shelf above the work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and > both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, > named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. > Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - > made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the first > router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router in > the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as > they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole > network. It's working beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all the > time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one of > my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home office, > or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't want > to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some > errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an > administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of > harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work > station construction for the library in their house. When that is > completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room for > one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 15:24:33 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:24:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com><8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s tuart.lexacorp.com.pg><"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net><4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> Hi Jim, Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in the right direction to begin with? Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network settings recorded. Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer Training. I also make house calls. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and > network problems. > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 15:25:18 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:25:18 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com><8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s tuart.lexacorp.com.pg><"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net><4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com><4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCEE52E.1090008@torchlake.com> There is that. Family and friends are well worth the effort. :-) T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina: > > In business, never charge different rates or give deals. Either charge full > rate or nothing at all. Relative and neighbours seem to fall into the latter > category though they do end up paying in dinners, beer and home-made wines. > ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:58 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here > -Update 4 > > Hi Rocky, > > Yeah - if they'd had to pay someone to do what I did for their computer, > they'd have been at least $1K better off to just buy a new computer. > But, this is family, and I do not charge family, ever. > Of course, along the way, I learned an awful lot. I'm still no wireless > network expert, but I know a lot more about that stuff than I did before > I started. > > Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus > spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at > insertion. > > My high school student granddaughter may have an understanding of just > how important all this care and caution is, but my middle school and > elementary school granddaughters don't. They just know they had to wait > a couple of weeks while Tima (that's a combination of Tina and Grandma) > figured it out and fixed it. They don't yet fully appreciate how much > important "stuff" they almost lost. Their Daddy does, though. My > son-in-law really loves me! :-) > > T > > Rocky Smolin wrote: > >> Wow. Do you realize what new career you've just qualified yourself for? >> >> And now we know why Apple is so popular at home - plug and play - you >> > can't > >> do anything wrong because you can't do anything except exactly what they >> > let > >> you do. Which is what most home users need. >> >> >> R >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris >> Fields >> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here >> > - > >> Update 4 >> >> Hello All, >> >> I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been >> completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and >> reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other details >> going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I copied all >> the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from the >> Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the >> > complete > >> re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard drive. Then, >> > I > >> did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the peripheral >> > equipment. > >> I set up the Admin account separate from the Family account. I got Vipre >> installed, running, and regular scans scheduled. Their copy of Office >> > 2003 > >> was not their original disk set and they had no idea where the original >> > set > >> was. I had a spare set, so I used that. >> >> Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept >> > dropping. > >> You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing and I >> > replaced > >> it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in my office was also >> dropping the signal - I watched my link status monitor and saw the signal >> drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, there is now a new WNDR3400 in >> > my > >> office, too. Also, I noted that the USB wireless adapter on the >> Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. >> I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying >> > that, > >> the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a three-year >> replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the USB connector >> broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly what had >> > happened > >> to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no surprise there, with >> active kids and the adapter sticking out from the front of the computer - >> and the connector had a nice slope to it at about a 5-degree angle, rather >> than parallel to the rest of the body of the device. So, yes, I bought >> > the > >> additional guarantee. This new adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a >> > USB > >> port in the back of the tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a >> shelf above the work-station. >> >> With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network >> - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap and >> both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one up, >> named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the settings. >> Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the new SSID - >> made note of all the settings. This router is cable-connected to the >> > first > >> router, no placed back in my office where it belongs. The DL-415 router >> > in > >> the garage apartment is still working fine. All the IP addresses are as >> they should be, and the 128-bit security key is established for the whole >> network. It's working beautifully, now. >> >> I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all >> > the > >> time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably become one >> > of > >> my student computers here in the little classroom I have in my home >> > office, > >> or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to use when I don't >> > want > >> to risk harm to the new computer - haven't decided, yet. >> >> Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected some >> errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not working in an >> administrator level user profile, and their wireless adapter is out of >> harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on the bookcase and work >> station construction for the library in their house. When that is >> completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, and I will have room >> > for > >> one more student computer here. >> >> Best regards, >> T >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 15:27:39 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:27:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way In-Reply-To: <7C34D8680B3549AEA2EFB0CFC7CB4C69@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4DCE9672.5010508@torchlake.com> <7C34D8680B3549AEA2EFB0CFC7CB4C69@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DCEE5BB.7000300@torchlake.com> Hi Jim, Some good thoughts there, even though the computer doesn't get shut down, it just doesn't boot all the way. Still, these suggestions will prove quite helpful, I am sure. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina: > > Check the BIOS to see what setting you have on the "over-heating" issue. > > Some BIOS will automatically shut down your computer when it over-heats. > That over heating can be caused with a fan, either CPU fan or one for an > onboard built-in video chip fans. Even if the fans are working sometimes so > much dust gets into grooves of the heat-sink, or between the cooling > assembly and the chip that heat just can not disperse properly. > > Note: > 1. If you do remove the fan assemble, to clean it you should replace the > heat-sink compound. (If you do not know; that is the paste that is placed on > top of the chips so the chip and fan assemble can transfer heat property > between them.) > 2. Make sure the fans are running steadily and quickly. Sometimes dust and > grit can cause them to not work properly. Carefully removing the lable (and > replacing it...should be a perfect seal), on top of the fan, can gain you > access to the fan bearing and a very small drop of three-in-one oil can do > wonders. > 3. You can also use a Can-of-air to blow away dust and dirt in small places > around the fan assembles; just remember to have the computer turned off and > cool before using the Air as the cold blast can damage a hot chip. > > HTH > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:49 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Puzzle - computer doesn't boot all the way > > Hello Friends, > > Well, since we've solved the puzzle for the Fields-Family computer, I > can get back to one I was working on earlier. > > The patient is an IBM NetVista computer. I have a family member with > access to a sort of electronics junkyard, where discarded items go, many > of which are still quite usable, but may need a little updating, and > most of which have been discarded simply to make room for newer > equipment. The NetVista computer came from that source. The operating > system is WinXP SP3 - I did the installation of the operating system - I > set up the user accounts - I installed OpenOffice software - I installed > Vipre -I was working on the updates for all the software and the OS, and > all seemed to be fine until I got to one of the final updates and had to > reboot the system, and it wouldn't reboot. > > I don't have the same detailed notes on this that I make when I know I'm > dealing with a puzzle - I thought this was working perfectly - so, the > sequence of events is no longer clear. However, the POST was wrong - > rather than the single beep, there was a series of beeps (4 or 5 in a > row). Looking up what that might mean, I found what I thought was the > most likely culprit - a failing power supply. If it doesn't send a good > power signal, the system won't boot. So, I bought a nice new power > supply - the precise model called for by the NetVista specs - and > installed it. Booted right up. Yay! I continued working on the full > setup of this machine, and had it running for probably an hour when I > got to another reboot - and it wouldn't. Same exact symptom. The power > comes on, the initial screen is displayed, and nothing more happens at > all. I put the computer aside for a while, because I had other things > to tend to. > > A month later I came back to the sleuthing. Could be the CR2032 > battery, after all, the machine is ancient. So, I replaced that. > Booted right up. Yay! Continue setting things up just the way I will > want them for a student computer in my little classroom. The system > seems to be running just fine, until I reach another needed restart. > Won't boot. Same exact symptom. Power on, initial screen is displayed, > and nothing more happens at all, no matter how long I wait - waited five > hours just to be sure. > > So, I think there is a thermal issue here. When the computer warms up, > the reboot does not work. If I let the sucker sit for a week, it'll > probably boot for me again just fine. > > Now, one of the NetVistas I already had running reliably, has developed > the same apparent symptom. Reboot starts, but hangs at the display of > the opening screen. > > Have you seen this symptom? Is it likely a thermal issue? Does it > sound like a failing solder joint? Does it sound like a failing > switch? Any ideas? > > Thanks, > T > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 15:30:00 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:30:00 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> Message-ID: <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> With a simple WEP or WPA username and password is always a good idea. The credential can then just be installed on the laptop and the computer will automatically just log-in, so there is no hassle. Security against someone hacking into your computer is less of an issue than someone just being able attached to the Wi-Fi router and using it as an open hot-spot. Otherwise the router will end up being a great location for the next door neighbour's kids to stream data up and down on your dime and band-width while hiding their identity. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer Just got a $400 (Toshiba) laptop for my sisinlaw who does email, some websurfing, and some non-memory-hog games. My local computer store who I've dealt with since the mid 80s, just got a few in for a promotion, and they will later go for $600. Pretty nice little machine even for $600. One thing it includes is wireless network, so I don't have to cable her to the DSL modem and she can sit in her easy chair vs being chained to her dining room table like she is with the XP desktop from 2005. With wireless DSL modem, is that the same as wireless cable regarding drive by steeling bandwidth and/or snooping on her computer? If so, will simple WEP key be enough to stop it? The printer is also wireless. Do I need to do any security things there? I'm guessing that nobody can steel bandwidth or snoop via printer connection but I want to be sure. Got her a wireless keyboard/mouse as well, but I don't think there's any security issues there. Any other issues I should be aware of before I start setting it up for her. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net?? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 15:52:16 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:52:16 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s> <"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> <4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML on it. Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers in their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish to have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 Hi Jim, Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in the right direction to begin with? Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network settings recorded. Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer Training. I also make house calls. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and > network problems. > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Sat May 14 16:08:42 2011 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:08:42 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: It is my understanding that "DriveImage XML" is free only for private use. For commercial use you have to buy the Commercial Edition. Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Jim Lawrence Gesendet: Samstag, 14. Mai 2011 22:52 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML on it. Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers in their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish to have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 Hi Jim, Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in the right direction to begin with? Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network settings recorded. Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer Training. I also make house calls. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and > network problems. > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Sat May 14 16:13:26 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 14:13:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> > Security against someone hacking into your computer is less of an issue than > someone just being able attached to the Wi-Fi router and using it as an open > hot-spot. Otherwise the router will end up being a great location for the > next door neighbour's kids to stream data up and down on your dime and > band-width while hiding their identity. That's what I mean about stealing bandwidth. BTW, no router, unless you mean the built-in wireless. Just the DSL modem, otherwise. Kathryn From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat May 14 17:03:07 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 18:03:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com><8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com><4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s> <"00cf01cc05fa$242773 f0$6c765bd0$"@winhaven.net><4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com><4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DCEFC1B.2050807@torchlake.com> Jim, That's a terrific idea! Thanks. :-) T Jim Lawrence wrote: > I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML > on it. > > Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done > you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily > create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be > created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using > DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or > just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. > > I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers in > their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just > deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a > great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish to > have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible > things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here > -Update 4 > > Hi Jim, > > Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in > the right direction to begin with? > > Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about > that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network > settings recorded. > > Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer > Training. I also make house calls. > > T > > Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router >> > and > >> network problems. >> >> I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... >> except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW >> perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it >> will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as >> > that > >> sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. >> >> "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris >> Fields >> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here >> > - > >> Update 4 >> >> Hello All, >> >> I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been >> completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and >> reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other >> details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I >> copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from >> the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the >> complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard >> drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the >> peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the >> Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans >> scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set >> and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so >> I used that. >> >> Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept >> dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing >> and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in >> my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status >> monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, >> there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the >> USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. >> I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying >> that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a >> three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the >> USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly >> what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no >> surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the >> front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at >> about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of >> the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new >> adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the >> tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the >> work-station. >> >> With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network >> - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap >> and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one >> up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the >> settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the >> new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is >> cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where >> it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working >> fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit >> security key is established for the whole network. It's working >> beautifully, now. >> >> I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all >> the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably >> become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have >> in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to >> use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't >> decided, yet. >> >> Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected >> some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not >> working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless >> adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on >> the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their >> house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, >> and I will have room for one more student computer here. >> >> Best regards, >> T >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat May 14 17:52:04 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:52:04 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, , <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> You should also disable AutoRun. Create a DisableAutorun.reg file containng the following lines: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\Autorun.inf] @="@SYS:DoesNotExist" Once installed, no nasties get passed just by plugging in a USB drive -- Stuart On 14 May 2011 at 10:57, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > > Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus > spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at > insertion. > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat May 14 17:52:30 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:52:30 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <4DCDAF88.16074.883EB73@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com>, <4DCDAF88.16074.883EB73@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4DCF07AE.13345.DC44937@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Now it's Microsoft's problem. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/13/microsoft_bpos_apology/ Microsoft BPOS cloud outage burns Exchange converts 'All in' now looking for a 'way out' I just set up a bunch of CNAME records for one of our domain hosting clients to switch to BPOS last week. I'm sure glad that t wasn't me who advised them to make the switch :-) -- Stuart On 14 May 2011 at 8:24, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Gmail in March this year was where people lost access to their data > for several days. > > Amazon users in April permanently lost data > > -- > Stuart > > On 13 May 2011 at 13:38, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Wasn't it the recent Amazon crash and it was it not that anyone lost > > data, wasn't it that the users could not get at their data? > > > > Jim > > > > > > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 20:16:41 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 18:16:41 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <1535276679CB49A69D4A56BE03E231F8@creativesystemdesigns.com> It is a situation that can go either way when it comes to installing it in the home for basically home use. Is it a business because you do some business on your computers or is it just home use as in most cases a person would just use the equipment for pleasure. If the computers, in question, reside in an office and are only used for business then it is clear cut business use. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:09 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 It is my understanding that "DriveImage XML" is free only for private use. For commercial use you have to buy the Commercial Edition. Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Jim Lawrence Gesendet: Samstag, 14. Mai 2011 22:52 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML on it. Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers in their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish to have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 Hi Jim, Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in the right direction to begin with? Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network settings recorded. Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer Training. I also make house calls. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router and > network problems. > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as that > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here - > Update 4 > > Hello All, > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > I used that. > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > work-station. > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > beautifully, now. > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > decided, yet. > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > Best regards, > T > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 14 20:18:40 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 18:18:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> Message-ID: Oh, I am not aware of the configuration that you are talking about. Where is the wireless? Is it built into the modem or what? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:13 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer > Security against someone hacking into your computer is less of an issue than > someone just being able attached to the Wi-Fi router and using it as an open > hot-spot. Otherwise the router will end up being a great location for the > next door neighbour's kids to stream data up and down on your dime and > band-width while hiding their identity. That's what I mean about stealing bandwidth. BTW, no router, unless you mean the built-in wireless. Just the DSL modem, otherwise. Kathryn _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Sat May 14 23:50:26 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 21:50:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> Message-ID: <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> > Oh, I am not aware of the configuration that you are talking about. Where is > the wireless? Is it built into the modem or what? Wi-FiR Wireless networking (802.11b/g/n) Kathryn From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 00:28:09 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:28:09 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> Message-ID: <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> Are not Wireless networks comprized of at least a hub and satellite stations? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:50 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer > Oh, I am not aware of the configuration that you are talking about. Where is > the wireless? Is it built into the modem or what? Wi-FiR Wireless networking (802.11b/g/n) Kathryn _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Sun May 15 00:37:43 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:37:43 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <002d01cc12c2$36cdbcb0$a4693610$@net> > Are not Wireless networks comprized of at least a hub and satellite > stations? All I know is that he said that as long as the cable modem is capable of wireless connection (*), that the computer would connect to it wirelessly. Instead of having to plug one of the "oversize phone plugs" from the computer to the modem. (*) which it is, because when ATT was helping me with a connectivity issue with the desktop, they asked what modem we were using, and with the answer, they asked if I was connected hardwire or wireless. Kathryn From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 00:40:35 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:40:35 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS In-Reply-To: <4DCF07AE.13345.DC44937@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <3F48552124CA4975BA9723DBB2412F19@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DCDAF88.16074.883EB73@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4DCF07AE.13345.DC44937@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: The whole cloud networks are in their infancy and they were probably deployed before they were really ready for public consumption. I remember when the internet started and no ISP could guarantee 24x7 service and in some case would sit down for days. The network and ISP we were connected to would be compensated us every month for how many hours they were down and sometimes it was almost 50 percent. It is rare that internet crashes now. My main concerns are that these cloud systems will become consolidated amongst only a very few providers. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:53 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Download Chrome OS Now it's Microsoft's problem. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/13/microsoft_bpos_apology/ Microsoft BPOS cloud outage burns Exchange converts 'All in' now looking for a 'way out' I just set up a bunch of CNAME records for one of our domain hosting clients to switch to BPOS last week. I'm sure glad that t wasn't me who advised them to make the switch :-) -- Stuart On 14 May 2011 at 8:24, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Gmail in March this year was where people lost access to their data > for several days. > > Amazon users in April permanently lost data > > -- > Stuart > > On 13 May 2011 at 13:38, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Wasn't it the recent Amazon crash and it was it not that anyone lost > > data, wasn't it that the users could not get at their data? > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 00:54:26 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:54:26 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <135339F12382443EB75C5BF575F4B77F@creativesystemdesigns.com> That's a good one Stuart...should have thought of it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:52 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 You should also disable AutoRun. Create a DisableAutorun.reg file containng the following lines: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\Autorun.inf] @="@SYS:DoesNotExist" Once installed, no nasties get passed just by plugging in a USB drive -- Stuart On 14 May 2011 at 10:57, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > > Oh, and since part of what was wrong with their computer was a virus > spread by infected USB devices, I set Vipre up to scan USB devices at > insertion. > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sun May 15 01:24:04 2011 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:24:04 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Audio editing: Hindenburg Journalist Message-ID: Hi all This software claims to be so easy to adopt that even a journalist can learn it in five minutes while delivering audio that meets the newest broadcast standards. For Mac and Windows: http://nsaka.com/ /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 01:35:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:35:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: <002d01cc12c2$36cdbcb0$a4693610$@net> References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> <002d01cc12c2$36cdbcb0$a4693610$@net> Message-ID: In other words, your modem is your Wi-Fi router. 1. You have to access you modem via its address (go to the command prompt and enter IPCONFIG and your gateway address, the modem/router address should be displayed0. 2. From your browser enter: http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx < your gateway address and log on. You should have the username and password, as it is most likely a default, no credentials or a setting your modem company has given you. If you do not have this check the modem type online and usually they will provide the default credentials to their modems or you will have to get those setting from your modem provider. 3. Go into the modems web setting pages and change or add the wireless credentials...there should be an area for that. 4. You should change the username and password (write them on a label and stick that label to the modem) to log on to the modem, as well, as it most likely is some standard default and every bright young neighbour knows it, can just login anytime and hijack the modem. 5. If there is a remote login setting set to allow remote access as most of these units have...turned it off. You may have to turn it on again when you require service but in the meantime you are protected as every support worker knows your remote login password as it is probably some default. Now this all depends on who owns the modem. If you own it then you can legally expect access but if it is just rented then this falls into a grey area and I am not sure who has authority. If you want to have some fun, just get the external address the outside world sees just go to a website like: http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip-lookup and get your address. Now do the same with your browser, to access the gateway, you can try and login from this position having your appropriate remote access username/password or having set it and the 'allow remote login' settings on, in the modem. (Do leave 'allow remote login' setting on as any script-kiddy can take over your modem in about 10 minutes.) HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:38 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer > Are not Wireless networks comprized of at least a hub and satellite > stations? All I know is that he said that as long as the cable modem is capable of wireless connection (*), that the computer would connect to it wirelessly. Instead of having to plug one of the "oversize phone plugs" from the computer to the modem. (*) which it is, because when ATT was helping me with a connectivity issue with the desktop, they asked what modem we were using, and with the answer, they asked if I was connected hardwire or wireless. Kathryn _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 01:40:54 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:40:54 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Audio editing: Hindenburg Journalist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <886E53BADBFB4349BFD58997B2BB7187@creativesystemdesigns.com> Excellent looking product. Also noted is that this company also have the new defacto; a Facebook portal: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nsaka-ApS/170527759640044 and we should be making one for all our web clients, if they do not already have one. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:24 PM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Audio editing: Hindenburg Journalist Hi all This software claims to be so easy to adopt that even a journalist can learn it in five minutes while delivering audio that meets the newest broadcast standards. For Mac and Windows: http://nsaka.com/ /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 15 02:57:39 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 00:57:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is evolving. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85B54B44962F47AEB7BEB73298FA4120@creativesystemdesigns.com> Microsoft is evolving into the 21 century and it is good to see it but for people who have spent a great deal of time becoming conversant in many of Microsoft's proprietary web based tools might be realizing it may not be such a secure or as advanced technology as the open standards. ...But there are clear signs that Microsoft is evolving as it struggles to catch up with the 21st Century. Take the web. Microsoft lumbered into the web app world with its tried-and-once-true playbook: push the world to adopt Silverlight and lock a generation of developers into Microsoft tools, then crank up the cash register and collect license fees. The problem is that web developers had already voted with their downloads and were snubbing Adobe Flex and Silverlight in favor of open standards like HTML5 and Javascript. Rather than fight the trend, Microsoft adopted it, and has been an active proponent of HTML5 ever since - though not without some hesitation, it should be noted. Why? Because an open web is very much in Microsoft's interests, as The Register's Tim Anderson explains: [Microsoft] realizes it must have a broad-reach platform alongside Windows to succeed in the diverse world of mobile devices and increasing numbers of Mac computers, and that its efforts with .NET and Silverlight are not able to be that broad-reach platform. "Hah!" You say, "Microsoft is only open when it suits the company's interests!" Yes, but that's true of every company. Some just happen to have business models that benefit from open code, while Microsoft, until now, has not. The web is a game changer, and Microsoft's game is changing. Take Microsoft's Skype acquisition. In the past, Microsoft would buy a company and try to monetize its assets through license fees. But in the case of Skype, as ZDNet's Mary-Jo Foley posits, advertising may well be the revenue engine... Jim From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun May 15 15:50:05 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 16:50:05 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here-Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com>, , <4DCE986F.50604@torchlake.com> <4DCF0794.29034.DC3E0E4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4DD03C7D.2070400@torchlake.com> Thank you, Stuart. I will make use of that. :-) T Stuart McLachlan wrote: > You should also disable AutoRun. > > Create a DisableAutorun.reg file containng the following lines: > > REGEDIT4 > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows > NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\Autorun.inf] > @="@SYS:DoesNotExist" > > Once installed, no nasties get passed just by plugging in a USB drive > > From kathryn at bassett.net Sun May 15 15:53:42 2011 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 13:53:42 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer In-Reply-To: References: <003601cc1271$d6273580$8275a080$@net> <96EFC2E6766C476D886F0739913B989C@creativesystemdesigns.com> <004601cc127b$c4008eb0$4c01ac10$@net> <002801cc12bb$9bc7d210$d3577630$@net> <25BB6EE7BADF4823962EF52610F92166@creativesystemdesigns.com> <002d01cc12c2$36cdbcb0$a4693610$@net> Message-ID: <002701cc1342$2cd55710$86800530$@net> Thanks for the step-by-step. Makes me want to follow through right away, but I've got to do all the other stuff re setup before I take it all to Barbara's where I'll do the internet stuff. Probably won't be until after next weekend, but I'll let you know how it went. Kathryn > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech- > bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:36 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Questions about wireless modem and printer > > In other words, your modem is your Wi-Fi router. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon May 16 06:48:21 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 07:48:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here -Update 4 In-Reply-To: <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4DB98B96.6050208@torchlake.com> <8B5D681B01D24D038C843ED203F68EB4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DB9D841.16743.44B8B54@s> <4DBD7EDE.4000304@torchlake.com> <4DCE8EF9.7080307@torchlake.com> <4DCEE501.5000801@torchlake.com> <4F05B03BAFF74A3281BC54A6FDA70DBE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: I used to teach at a tech institute that did exactly what you suggest. After each course, the tech-admin guy re-imaged all the computers back to their pristine state. For the more popular courses, he installed the required software before creating the image. It works a treat. At one travel agency I worked at, they did the same thing. There were about 75 computers in use, and a couple of bare-image ones ready to go. In case anything happened, the tech-guy would just replace the errant box with a new one, all preconfigured and ready to go. He was then free to repair or discard the errant box, with maybe half an hour down-time. Arthur On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > I can send you an image file of a PE boot CD with a copy of DriveImage XML > on it. > > Just write the image to a CD using any number of Nero type apps. Once done > you can just boot up any computer, from the resultant CD and you can easily > create a perfect bootable image of the current computer. The image can be > created on any drive attached through USB or NIC connection. Using > DriveImage XML, a free program, either the entire image, or directories or > just individual files can be exported from the resultant image file. > > I know clients who keep a series of images for certain types of computers > in > their office, stored on their main server and these image files can just > deploy for a new worker, through the LAN. I would think this would be a > great system for a student training class scenario where you have no wish > to > have to fix a box once a student has finished doing all sort of horrible > things on it...just re-image the box at the end of each course. ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With Here > -Update 4 > > Hi Jim, > > Thanks for the compliment - but, aren't you the one who pointed me in > the right direction to begin with? > > Good idea to save a complete image. I've been meaning to learn about > that. I guess this is the time. I do have all the router and network > settings recorded. > > Student computer: yes, my home business is Tall Pines Computer > Training. I also make house calls. > > T > > Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Impressive and now I know where to come if I ever get in a sticky router > and > > network problems. > > > > I have one suggestion, words of wisdom (which I have rarely followed... > > except in with businesses) and that is to create a complete image of NEW > > perfect computer and store it. In theory when the computer fails, and it > > will; it should be easy to re-install. Also save the router setting as > that > > sure makes it easy to recover from a hardware failure. > > > > "Student Computer"; are you doing onsite training at your home? > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > > Fields > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:17 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SOLVED!! Not Sure Quite What I'm Dealing With > Here > - > > Update 4 > > > > Hello All, > > > > I thought I would finish the story. The Fields-Family computer has been > > completely re-established. It took doing the reformatting and > > reinstallation sequence twice - not sure why, but there were other > > details going wrong, too, that may have had an impact. Anyway, first I > > copied all the data files, documents, photos, music, videos, etc. from > > the Fields-Family computer to an external hard drive. Then, I did the > > complete re-installation of WinXP-SP2, with full reformat of the hard > > drive. Then, I did the SP3 update. I re-established drivers for the > > peripheral equipment. I set up the Admin account separate from the > > Family account. I got Vipre installed, running, and regular scans > > scheduled. Their copy of Office 2003 was not their original disk set > > and they had no idea where the original set was. I had a spare set, so > > I used that. > > > > Along the way, I noticed that the wireless network connection kept > > dropping. You already know that my DL-415 router at the POE was failing > > and I replaced it with a NetGear WNDR3400 router. Well, the DL-415 in > > my office was also dropping the signal - I watched my link status > > monitor and saw the signal drop out, then come back, repeatedly. So, > > there is now a new WNDR3400 in my office, too. Also, I noted that the > > USB wireless adapter on the Fields-Family computer wasn't functioning. > > I replaced that with another new NetGear adapter. While I was buying > > that, the store manager asked me if I wanted to invest $7 for a > > three-year replacement guarantee, in case anything went wrong, or the > > USB connector broke - and I burst out laughing, because that was exactly > > what had happened to the old one. It had apparently been bumped - no > > surprise there, with active kids and the adapter sticking out from the > > front of the computer - and the connector had a nice slope to it at > > about a 5-degree angle, rather than parallel to the rest of the body of > > the device. So, yes, I bought the additional guarantee. This new > > adapter came with a cradle, so, I used a USB port in the back of the > > tower and placed the adapter in its cradle on a shelf above the > > work-station. > > > > With all this new equipment, I reconstructed the entire wireless network > > - starting with the router at the POE. With my new computer in my lap > > and both new WNDR3400 routers sitting on the floor, I set the first one > > up, named it, and created a new SSID name - made note of all the > > settings. Then, I set the second one up, named it, and joined it to the > > new SSID - made note of all the settings. This router is > > cable-connected to the first router, no placed back in my office where > > it belongs. The DL-415 router in the garage apartment is still working > > fine. All the IP addresses are as they should be, and the 128-bit > > security key is established for the whole network. It's working > > beautifully, now. > > > > I've almost finished transferring the files and programs that I use all > > the time to my new computer. This five-year-old one will probably > > become one of my student computers here in the little classroom I have > > in my home office, or maybe it will serve as a sort of backup machine to > > use when I don't want to risk harm to the new computer - haven't > > decided, yet. > > > > Just wanted to let you know I got it all working again, and corrected > > some errors along the way - such as making sure the girls are not > > working in an administrator level user profile, and their wireless > > adapter is out of harm's way - things like that. Larry is working on > > the bookcase and work station construction for the library in their > > house. When that is completed, the Fields-Family computer will go home, > > and I will have room for one more student computer here. > > > > Best regards, > > T > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue May 17 05:34:50 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:34:50 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software Message-ID: Hello Friends, I met a friend while out on my morning walk this morning and he asked me what software I would recommend for "testing computers". He wants to run diagnostics on all the hardware components in machines - laptops and desktops. I am not sure for what purpose, perhaps just for fun. I said that honestly, I had no idea and suggested that a search on The Search Engine will no doubt present at least 100 choices, but I did say I would ask a group that will surely know the best top 2 choices. If you have a suggestion, please feel free to post it. thanks Mark From jon.tydda at lonza.com Tue May 17 05:37:28 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:37:28 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mark Your friend should look for "Benchmarking" software. That's what they call it in the magazine tests. I haven't used any myself, but that's what you need to look for. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 17 May 2011 11:35 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software Hello Friends, I met a friend while out on my morning walk this morning and he asked me what software I would recommend for "testing computers". He wants to run diagnostics on all the hardware components in machines - laptops and desktops. I am not sure for what purpose, perhaps just for fun. I said that honestly, I had no idea and suggested that a search on The Search Engine will no doubt present at least 100 choices, but I did say I would ask a group that will surely know the best top 2 choices. If you have a suggestion, please feel free to post it. thanks Mark _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From rustykh at yahoo.com Thu May 19 09:01:05 2011 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 07:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> To add to the Benchmarking suggestion, visit PC Magazine (www.pcmag.com) and look over their reviews of systems.? Often times when they show benchmark results, they will also mention the software they use to do the tests. HTH, Rusty ________________________________ From: Tydda Jon - Slough To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software Hi Mark Your friend should look for "Benchmarking" software. That's what they call it in the magazine tests. I haven't used any myself, but that's what you need to look for. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: 17 May 2011 11:35 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software Hello Friends, I met a friend while out on my morning walk this morning and he asked me what software I would recommend for "testing computers". He wants to run diagnostics on all the hardware components in machines - laptops and desktops.? I am not sure for what purpose, perhaps just for fun. I said that honestly, I had no idea and suggested that a search on The Search Engine will no doubt present at least 100 choices, but I did say I would ask a group that will surely know the best top 2 choices. If you have a suggestion, please feel free to post it. thanks Mark _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 21 20:15:47 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 18:15:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon In-Reply-To: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This has been posted before but the following article on Graphene adds more to possibe next big advancement in computers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9491789.stm Jim From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat May 21 23:16:19 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 14:16:19 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon In-Reply-To: References: , <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <4DD88E13.16552.222B7744@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Given how far it is from practical use, I'd say it is more likely the "one after next" :-) -- Stuart On 21 May 2011 at 18:15, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This has been posted before but the following article on Graphene adds > more to possibe next big advancement in computers: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9491789.stm > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 21 23:44:01 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:44:01 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon In-Reply-To: <4DD88E13.16552.222B7744@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4DD88E13.16552.222B7744@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <6447C63F084E4963BD7B58403DF50783@creativesystemdesigns.com> Probably... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:16 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon Given how far it is from practical use, I'd say it is more likely the "one after next" :-) -- Stuart On 21 May 2011 at 18:15, Jim Lawrence wrote: > This has been posted before but the following article on Graphene adds > more to possibe next big advancement in computers: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9491789.stm > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun May 22 07:24:53 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 08:24:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question Message-ID: I thought that I'd give MS the benefit of the doubt, so I switched to IE9 for a while, and for a while it seemed fast and intuitive and so on, but it kept crashing and so finally I downloaded the latest FireFox. It's been some time since I used it, and I can't remember where the default directory is for storing downloads. Where is it and how can I change it? TIA, Arthur From garykjos at gmail.com Sun May 22 07:50:23 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 07:50:23 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tools Options General Panel GK On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I thought that I'd give MS the benefit of the doubt, so I switched to IE9 > for a while, and for a while it seemed fast and intuitive and so on, but it > kept crashing and so finally I downloaded the latest FireFox. It's been some > time since I used it, and I can't remember where the default directory is > for storing downloads. Where is it and how can I change it? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun May 22 10:51:01 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:51:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> Tools->Options->General PB On 5/22/2011 7:24 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I thought that I'd give MS the benefit of the doubt, so I switched to IE9 > for a while, and for a while it seemed fast and intuitive and so on, but it > kept crashing and so finally I downloaded the latest FireFox. It's been some > time since I used it, and I can't remember where the default directory is > for storing downloads. Where is it and how can I change it? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun May 22 12:13:46 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 13:13:46 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> References: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I don't know whether this is new to FireFox 4 or whether I've screwed something up, but I don't seem to have the menu any more. A. On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Peter Brawley wrote: > Tools->Options->General > > PB > > From garykjos at gmail.com Sun May 22 12:17:54 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 12:17:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> Message-ID: The Menu Bar is not there by default in FF4. Right click in the top area where the toolbars are and you should get a drop down of the bars that are available. Select Menu Bar to get that one back. GK On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I don't know whether this is new to FireFox 4 or whether I've screwed > something up, but I don't seem to have the menu any more. > > A. > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Peter Brawley > wrote: > >> Tools->Options->General >> >> PB >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun May 22 12:49:50 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 12:49:50 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4DD94CBE.3090806@earthlink.net> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Menu%20bar%20is%20missing PB On 5/22/2011 12:13 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I don't know whether this is new to FireFox 4 or whether I've screwed > something up, but I don't seem to have the menu any more. > > A. > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Peter Brawley> wrote: >> Tools->Options->General >> >> PB >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun May 22 17:44:25 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 08:44:25 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox question In-Reply-To: References: , <4DD930E5.1080401@earthlink.net>, Message-ID: <4DD991C9.26814.2621FBF3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Is there a single tab at the left hand end of the window grab bar (ie opposite end to the iminimze/maximize, close buttons) with the word Firefox and a small down arrow. If so, click on that and select Options On 22 May 2011 at 13:13, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I don't know whether this is new to FireFox 4 or whether I've screwed > something up, but I don't seem to have the menu any more. > > A. > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Peter Brawley > wrote: > > > Tools->Options->General > > > > PB > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue May 24 03:10:13 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 04:10:13 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Virtual Machine Message-ID: I just set up a VM (in VirtualBox) to run Windows XP, and now I have 29 days left to activate it. So I tried, and MS told me that it's no longer supported and that I should upgrade to Windows 7. Ironically, VirtualBox is running in Windows 7. So how can I get from here to there? I just wanted to set up an XP VM to emulate a client's setup. Does this mean I cannot do this? My copy of XP is already activated. MS knows who I am. Sheesh! Any clever ideas? Arthur From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Tue May 24 06:03:03 2011 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:03:03 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Virtual Machine References: Message-ID: <8DE60EB316664EE7B90E3337D656AED3@s1800> Arthur, MS has a new Virtual PC, which runs on Win7. you can download it from MS site free. at the same site is the "XP-Mode" which is a VPC with XP already installed, also free to download. you can install on the XP-Mode just like on an XP machine. I have just tried that. Works ok. just google VPC for Win7 or such. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Virtual Machine >I just set up a VM (in VirtualBox) to run Windows XP, and now I have 29 >days > left to activate it. So I tried, and MS told me that it's no longer > supported and that I should upgrade to Windows 7. Ironically, VirtualBox > is > running in Windows 7. So how can I get from here to there? I just wanted > to > set up an XP VM to emulate a client's setup. Does this mean I cannot do > this? My copy of XP is already activated. MS knows who I am. Sheesh! > > Any clever ideas? > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue May 24 06:14:00 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 07:14:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] XP Virtual Machine In-Reply-To: <8DE60EB316664EE7B90E3337D656AED3@s1800> References: <8DE60EB316664EE7B90E3337D656AED3@s1800> Message-ID: Thanks. I'll look into it. A. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Lembit Soobik wrote: > Arthur, > MS has a new Virtual PC, which runs on Win7. you can download it from MS > site free. at the same site is the "XP-Mode" which is a VPC with XP already > installed, also free to download. you can install on the XP-Mode just like > on an XP machine. I have just tried that. Works ok. > just google VPC for Win7 or such. > > Lembit > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu May 26 11:14:45 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:14:45 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] A gmail trick I just learned Message-ID: A while back (almost a year ago) I was hospitalized for a while, and missed a bunch of email. Every time I logged into gmail, the InBox count was about 20 unread emails, dating back to that period. It's painful to click "Older" that many times. But today I discovered that Show Search Options lets you view only the unread emails, regardless of their date. So I was able to isolate these long-obsolete emails and delete them all (except for the very few that were recent). Now my Inbox count is once again respectable and useful. Hope this helps someone. Arthur From john at winhaven.net Thu May 26 18:49:14 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:49:14 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Word Header Message-ID: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> I would like to place the chapter name into the header automatically so that I don't have to create a new header for each chapter. I remember doing this eons ago but I haven't a clue how to do it now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Now using Word 2010. John B From bhj at wrkblslns.com Fri May 27 08:01:27 2011 From: bhj at wrkblslns.com (Bruce H. Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 06:01:27 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Word Header In-Reply-To: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <016601cc1c6e$311c2490$93546db0$@com> Assuming your chapter name is a styled paragraph, check out the field "StyleRef" -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:49 PM To: _DBA-OT; DBA-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Word Header I would like to place the chapter name into the header automatically so that I don't have to create a new header for each chapter. I remember doing this eons ago but I haven't a clue how to do it now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Now using Word 2010. John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 28 12:27:08 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:27:08 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> Google is shutting down its Translation API: http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide development community. Millions of web applications have learned to depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in their scope and capability. As of next November it will be no more. Jim From df.waters at comcast.net Sat May 28 13:03:35 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 13:03:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <002701cc1d61$9041db10$b0c59130$@comcast.net> So - who wants to buy it from Google and charge for the service? The charges would probably be small, and it could be profitable. If it's this popular, then I bet someone will. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:27 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness Google is shutting down its Translation API: http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide development community. Millions of web applications have learned to depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in their scope and capability. As of next November it will be no more. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat May 28 16:56:47 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 07:56:47 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net>, <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Anyone who relies on a free service provided by a third party should expect to have to find an alternative at some point in time. -- Stuart On 28 May 2011 at 10:27, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Google is shutting down its Translation API: > > http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html > > The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide > development community. Millions of web applications have learned to > depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in > their scope and capability. > > As of next November it will be no more. > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 28 18:05:48 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:05:48 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <002701cc1d61$9041db10$b0c59130$@comcast.net> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <002701cc1d61$9041db10$b0c59130$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3FB6F5AD4E93473F926C4E51A9FB5138@creativesystemdesigns.com> Google could have done that but then there would be an implied responsiblity to support the API and then it is much more difficult to just bail when they wanted and just did. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 11:04 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google madness So - who wants to buy it from Google and charge for the service? The charges would probably be small, and it could be profitable. If it's this popular, then I bet someone will. Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:27 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Off Topic' Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness Google is shutting down its Translation API: http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide development community. Millions of web applications have learned to depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in their scope and capability. As of next November it will be no more. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 28 18:30:54 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:30:54 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Google madness In-Reply-To: <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Currently there are no real alternatives. True, there are some other translators, even paid alternatives but their quality just isn't there yet and for the most part they are not even comparable, at any cost. The Google translator was the first and by far the best of it ilk. Just its API being out there has decimated all its competition and when it leaves the stage it may take a number of years for a viable alternative to match it very complex phase analysis and data indepth data sources. I do not believe that it is even possible as Google has been using the knowledge of thousnads of users which have been assisting the product by correcting their translator and no other paid for translator has had thousand of people, world wide, working for free just to support and improve it. I would love to see the API being turned over to the Open Source community then it might very well become the ultimate translator and such a situation as now, would never happen again. If you need further proof, just compare Google's spell checking capabilities against a Microsoft's paid for spell checker and we have a similar comparison...or not. So we shall see. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 2:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google madness Anyone who relies on a free service provided by a third party should expect to have to find an alternative at some point in time. -- Stuart On 28 May 2011 at 10:27, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Google is shutting down its Translation API: > > http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html > > The announcement has sent a huge flurry of anger amount the world wide > development community. Millions of web applications have learned to > depend on this translator which has made many sites world wide in > their scope and capability. > > As of next November it will be no more. > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Mon May 30 02:56:55 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 08:56:55 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software In-Reply-To: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Jon and Rusty, Thanks for your suggestions, I suggested to him that he have a look at benchmarking software. And I suggested that he look out for reviews by pcmag and others to see what software they use. Mark On 19 May 2011 15:01, Rusty Hammond wrote: > To add to the Benchmarking suggestion, visit PC Magazine (www.pcmag.com) > and look over their reviews of systems. Often times when they show > benchmark results, they will also mention the software they use to do the > tests. > > HTH, > > Rusty > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tydda Jon - Slough > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:37 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic > software > > Hi Mark > > Your friend should look for "Benchmarking" software. That's what they call > it in the magazine tests. I haven't used any myself, but that's what you > need to look for. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: 17 May 2011 11:35 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Recommendation for free PC hardware diagnostic software > > Hello Friends, > > I met a friend while out on my morning walk this morning and he asked me > what software I would recommend for "testing computers". > > He wants to run diagnostics on all the hardware components in machines - > laptops and desktops. I am not sure for what purpose, perhaps just for fun. > > I said that honestly, I had no idea and suggested that a search on The > Search Engine will no doubt present at least 100 > choices, but I did say I would ask a group that will surely know the best > top 2 choices. > > If you have a suggestion, please feel free to post it. > > thanks > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential > and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities > than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission > in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from > your system. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon May 30 08:28:31 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 09:28:31 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The replacement for Silicon In-Reply-To: References: <86605.60041.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DE39B7F.9080707@torchlake.com> This certainly is a very interesting development. It will be fun to watch what comes of this. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > This has been posted before but the following article on Graphene adds more > to possibe next big advancement in computers: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9491789.stm > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 30 14:22:47 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:22:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Catching and banning hackers on your and your clients remote login system In-Reply-To: References: <004401cc1bff$84d7d710$8e878530$@winhaven.net> <28F786E8A4734522B6CF8BE1FA7879CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4DE16F9F.7110.180ECC80@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Here is an excellent little product that stops hacker from relentlessly probing for access to your and your client's remote log on features. "Fail2Ban" runs in the back-ground, multi-processing, using its own thread and monitors the system logs for repeated failures of login attempts. If it finds numerous failures from a specific IP address, the application will set a block for that address. It IP range and tolerances can be set and it runs on all the major platforms. Below is the link to the windows version. http://webscripts.softpedia.com/script/Security-Systems/Fail2ban-33560.html Hope this helps someone. Jim