From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 1 14:19:47 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 12:19:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Warning to Chrome users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7EB5C46DC9BE4A2AAD2A15D2D03F5DCB@creativesystemdesigns.com> To all of you who run the Chrome browser and Microsoft Essentuals there appears to be a conflict. The latest security update pegs Chrome as malware and removes it. http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/30/baleted/ Since then there has been MSE update that has corrected this but if you were caught in the interm Google has posted a step by step method to completely recover Chrome with all it setting. http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/09/problems-with-microsoft-security.html Jim From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 1 15:17:31 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 15:17:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Warning to Chrome users In-Reply-To: <7EB5C46DC9BE4A2AAD2A15D2D03F5DCB@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <7EB5C46DC9BE4A2AAD2A15D2D03F5DCB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <011d01cc8077$262934c0$727b9e40$@winhaven.net> Lol not surprising -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 2:20 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Warning to Chrome users To all of you who run the Chrome browser and Microsoft Essentuals there appears to be a conflict. The latest security update pegs Chrome as malware and removes it. http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/30/baleted/ Since then there has been MSE update that has corrected this but if you were caught in the interm Google has posted a step by step method to completely recover Chrome with all it setting. http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/09/problems-with-microsoft-security.html Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 1 21:26:58 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 19:26:58 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breathe new life into old routers and optimize new ones In-Reply-To: <011d01cc8077$262934c0$727b9e40$@winhaven.net> References: <7EB5C46DC9BE4A2AAD2A15D2D03F5DCB@creativesystemdesigns.com> <011d01cc8077$262934c0$727b9e40$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <988EEDB3360846AEB11EF88E862623E9@creativesystemdesigns.com> If you have some old routers around, especially Linksys, this might be for you. A new Open Source Router OS that will add numerous feature to a router like tunneling, customized portals, security list, hosting and even databases. The following article describes the product: http://www.infoworld.com/d/networking/teach-your-router-new-tricks-dd-wrt-17 4050?page=0,0 Here is where you can get documentation and the current download. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation Jim From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Oct 2 11:56:15 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:56:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP Message-ID: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> Hi All, Some weeks ago we noted that an update to Win-7 seemed to break network connections to Win-XP machines. I had that experience. Then, after a few days, my network connections were all back - after presumably the next Win-7 (or Win-XP) update. Some time later, once again my network disappeared from the Win-7 machine - it cannot see any of the Win-XP machines. The Win-XP machines see each other but not the Win-7 machine. I've put off thinking about this, but now I need to. I really liked being able to reach across the network for things stored elsewhere - for example my genealogy database is on a shared external drive plugged into my Win-XP Pro machine. I don't so much like having to switch machines to go check something in that database. Nor am I wild about having to pop things onto a jump drive and transfer them via sneaker-net to my Win-7 machine in order to print them. (That's a different issue - the printer decided to stop seeing the wireless network, so it's plugged into a USB port on my Win-7 machine - I'll get to that after I work out this on-again off-again business with Win-7 and Win-XP.) Does anybody here know how I can re-establish my wireless network between Win-7 and Win-XP? Oh, and KEEP it re-established? Thanks. T -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 11:55:36 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 12:55:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web Message-ID: Is anyone interested in this topic? Well, aside from me and Sir Tim Berners-Lee and a few others. A couple of years ago, I had a brief contract (6 months) with a firm trying to turn this into a marketable vehicle. Is anyone else on this thread intrigued by this stuff? A. From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Oct 2 12:35:40 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 10:35:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP In-Reply-To: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> References: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <02D7072BCEDB4F998AC85FEF2097C11B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Tina: My simple solution would be to set up a server. My network is a miss-match of XP/Win7/Linux. They all connect happily through my new server2008 or 2003 without issues. You can use your main router as a domain server and that sometimes helps things. (If you are feel courageous see the article, I just posted on an Open Source replacement for router software/firmware.) The network protocol on Win7 is quite different from XP especially if you are mixing 32 and 64-bit machines. I have an article on that somewhere but cannot find it right now but check out the following basic link: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15247/complete-guide-to-networking-windows-7- with-xp-and-vista/ Sometimes machines will not talk to each other via their names and you end up having to use their IP address; i.e. 192.168.101.150 instead of Tina01. There is a many other things to check out though but the above list would be a good start. Keep me posted on your progress. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:56 AM To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP Hi All, Some weeks ago we noted that an update to Win-7 seemed to break network connections to Win-XP machines. I had that experience. Then, after a few days, my network connections were all back - after presumably the next Win-7 (or Win-XP) update. Some time later, once again my network disappeared from the Win-7 machine - it cannot see any of the Win-XP machines. The Win-XP machines see each other but not the Win-7 machine. I've put off thinking about this, but now I need to. I really liked being able to reach across the network for things stored elsewhere - for example my genealogy database is on a shared external drive plugged into my Win-XP Pro machine. I don't so much like having to switch machines to go check something in that database. Nor am I wild about having to pop things onto a jump drive and transfer them via sneaker-net to my Win-7 machine in order to print them. (That's a different issue - the printer decided to stop seeing the wireless network, so it's plugged into a USB port on my Win-7 machine - I'll get to that after I work out this on-again off-again business with Win-7 and Win-XP.) Does anybody here know how I can re-establish my wireless network between Win-7 and Win-XP? Oh, and KEEP it re-established? Thanks. T -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Oct 2 12:36:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 10:36:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81EB27B7B72244DDA99D9208D19F8A4C@creativesystemdesigns.com> We need more info Arthur. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:56 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web Is anyone interested in this topic? Well, aside from me and Sir Tim Berners-Lee and a few others. A couple of years ago, I had a brief contract (6 months) with a firm trying to turn this into a marketable vehicle. Is anyone else on this thread intrigued by this stuff? A. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Sun Oct 2 14:13:14 2011 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 12:13:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP In-Reply-To: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> References: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <2D57F2A6EE0A4542A86C8E8A61EFBA22@BPCS> Tina, The article Jim sent you may help, also you could check out this article. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120 Sometimes my NAS (Linux Based) does not show up in my Explorer, so I created a shortcut and click that, it opens my NAS but shortly after that it shows up in explorer. in the short cut target use \\BPCSNAS Or \\192.168.1.95 (obviously use the IP of the machine you want.) Also you can try just typing \\pcname in the search window and next time you look in network folder you may see the PC. HTH Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tina Norris Fields" Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:56 AM To: "DatabaseAdvisors-Tech" Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP Hi All, Some weeks ago we noted that an update to Win-7 seemed to break network connections to Win-XP machines. I had that experience. Then, after a few days, my network connections were all back - after presumably the next Win-7 (or Win-XP) update. Some time later, once again my network disappeared from the Win-7 machine - it cannot see any of the Win-XP machines. The Win-XP machines see each other but not the Win-7 machine. I've put off thinking about this, but now I need to. I really liked being able to reach across the network for things stored elsewhere - for example my genealogy database is on a shared external drive plugged into my Win-XP Pro machine. I don't so much like having to switch machines to go check something in that database. Nor am I wild about having to pop things onto a jump drive and transfer them via sneaker-net to my Win-7 machine in order to print them. (That's a different issue - the printer decided to stop seeing the wireless network, so it's plugged into a USB port on my Win-7 machine - I'll get to that after I work out this on-again off-again business with Win-7 and Win-XP.) Does anybody here know how I can re-establish my wireless network between Win-7 and Win-XP? Oh, and KEEP it re-established? Thanks. T -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 14:14:21 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 15:14:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: <81EB27B7B72244DDA99D9208D19F8A4C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <81EB27B7B72244DDA99D9208D19F8A4C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Google "Semantic Web" and ye shall seek and find what this is about. It's still problematic but we are working on it. In a nut, it's about introducing "meaning" into the otherwise stupid web-lookups. It's to be sure, a tough nut to crack, but I and several thousand others way smarter than I are attempting to crack it. It's one difficult nut to crack, and one problem is that it is apparently infinitely recursive: what means "meaning"? That one is a tough one, and I am lacking in ready answers. You got me on that one! I have no idea what the meaning of meaning is. I just stumble about in the forest. The semantic web attempts to turn URLs into something more intelligent, deriving their links not by mere links but into intelligent links. This is problematic to say the least, but an adventure worth exploration. Let's take a simple case: I search for "genetic algorithms" and a couple of hundred URLs show up; then I want to refine this list and narrow it down to a dozen or so. And then I want to refine this result-set to the last dozen or so papers presented on this topic. This should be three clicks from me to there. That's a simple case. Now let's get more complex and deal with the Semantic Web. I'm searching for let's say things to do with Quantum Theory, and this search might involve a whole bunch of stuff having little or nothing to do with physics. This is all about the meaning of Meaning and that's where it grows difficult, but this is exactly the place where I want to live. Paradoxes, recursions, etc. That's my chosen place to live. A. From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Oct 2 14:32:53 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:32:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP In-Reply-To: <02D7072BCEDB4F998AC85FEF2097C11B@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> <02D7072BCEDB4F998AC85FEF2097C11B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4E88BC65.9010401@torchlake.com> Hi Jim, Thanks for the reply. I stayed with the 32-bit system when I got my Win-7 precisely because I have four Win-XP systems (all but one of them are Pro). Okay, this is where I start learning new things. I've been thinking about servers, but I have no experience with servers, so thinking is all I've done. I still have some functional D-Link DL-541 routers around that aren't doing anything. I will go check out the article you posted - if I can find it again. So, back into the "learning about networks" mode I go. Thank you for the howtogeek link. Knowledge is so like Swiss cheese - large areas of solid stuff with great gaping air pockets every so often - makes me feel stupid, sometimes. T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/2/2011 1:35 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina:. > > My simple solution would be to set up a server. My network is a miss-match > of XP/Win7/Linux. They all connect happily through my new server2008 or 2003 > without issues. You can use your main router as a domain server and that > sometimes helps things. (If you are feel courageous see the article, I just > posted on an Open Source replacement for router software/firmware.) > > The network protocol on Win7 is quite different from XP especially if you > are mixing 32 and 64-bit machines. I have an article on that somewhere but > cannot find it right now but check out the following basic link: > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15247/complete-guide-to-networking-windows-7- > with-xp-and-vista/ > > Sometimes machines will not talk to each other via their names and you end > up having to use their IP address; i.e. 192.168.101.150 instead of Tina01. > > > There is a many other things to check out though but the above list would be > a good start. > > Keep me posted on your progress. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:56 AM > To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech > Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP > > Hi All, > > Some weeks ago we noted that an update to Win-7 seemed to break network > connections to Win-XP machines. I had that experience. Then, after a > few days, my network connections were all back - after presumably the > next Win-7 (or Win-XP) update. Some time later, once again my network > disappeared from the Win-7 machine - it cannot see any of the Win-XP > machines. The Win-XP machines see each other but not the Win-7 machine. > > I've put off thinking about this, but now I need to. I really liked > being able to reach across the network for things stored elsewhere - for > example my genealogy database is on a shared external drive plugged into > my Win-XP Pro machine. I don't so much like having to switch machines > to go check something in that database. Nor am I wild about having to > pop things onto a jump drive and transfer them via sneaker-net to my > Win-7 machine in order to print them. (That's a different issue - the > printer decided to stop seeing the wireless network, so it's plugged > into a USB port on my Win-7 machine - I'll get to that after I work out > this on-again off-again business with Win-7 and Win-XP.) > > Does anybody here know how I can re-establish my wireless network > between Win-7 and Win-XP? Oh, and KEEP it re-established? Thanks. > > T > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Oct 2 14:47:39 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:47:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E88BFDB.50003@torchlake.com> Arthur, What is Semantic Web? T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/2/2011 12:55 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Is anyone interested in this topic? Well, aside from me and Sir Tim > Berners-Lee and a few others. A couple of years ago, I had a brief contract > (6 months) with a firm trying to turn this into a marketable vehicle. Is > anyone else on this thread intrigued by this stuff? > > A. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Oct 2 14:52:11 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:52:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: <81EB27B7B72244DDA99D9208D19F8A4C@creativesystemd esigns.com> Message-ID: <4E88C0EB.6090405@torchlake.com> Oh! Thanks! Yes, I would be fascinated by this. T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/2/2011 3:14 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Google "Semantic Web" and ye shall seek and find what this is about. It's > still problematic but we are working on it. In a nut, it's about introducing > "meaning" into the otherwise stupid web-lookups. It's to be sure, a tough > nut to crack, but I and several thousand others way smarter than I are > attempting to crack it. It's one difficult nut to crack, and one problem is > that it is apparently infinitely recursive: what means "meaning"? That one > is a tough one, and I am lacking in ready answers. You got me on that one! I > have no idea what the meaning of meaning is. I just stumble about in the > forest. > > The semantic web attempts to turn URLs into something more intelligent, > deriving their links not by mere links but into intelligent links. This is > problematic to say the least, but an adventure worth exploration. Let's take > a simple case: I search for "genetic algorithms" and a couple of hundred > URLs show up; then I want to refine this list and narrow it down to a dozen > or so. And then I want to refine this result-set to the last dozen or so > papers presented on this topic. This should be three clicks from me to > there. > > That's a simple case. Now let's get more complex and deal with the Semantic > Web. I'm searching for let's say things to do with Quantum Theory, and this > search might involve a whole bunch of stuff having little or nothing to do > with physics. This is all about the meaning of Meaning and that's where it > grows difficult, but this is exactly the place where I want to live. > Paradoxes, recursions, etc. That's my chosen place to live. > > A. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 18:04:22 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:04:22 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: <4E88BFDB.50003@torchlake.com> References: <4E88BFDB.50003@torchlake.com> Message-ID: The Semantic Web is the next step in WWW technology. It attempts to impart meaning into web pages. This is a complex topic, way too complex for me to summarize here. Please google Semantic Web and take it from there. It's IMO a very interesting topic and one that I am devoted to.. what is the Meaning of Meaning? That is the question, and the answers are not easy, but we try despite the challenges. This stuff is not easy. A. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Tina Norris Fields < tinanfields at torchlake.com> wrote: > Arthur, > What is Semantic Web? > T > > From hans.andersen at phulse.com Sun Oct 2 23:12:01 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:12:01 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones Message-ID: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com> You would think it would be bad enough when there is a revelation that there is a major security hole in your phones that exposes pretty much everything, including contacts, phone history, SMS messages, emails, system logs, GPS locations, and pretty much anything else that matters to any app, by simply giving it internet permissions, which all apps require these days anyhow. The only thing that could possibly make it worse is the revelation that this security hole exists as a consequence of a vulnerability in a key logger and a remote access server (VNC, similar to remote desktop) that HTC bundles with these Android phones of theirs. http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/01/massive-security-vulnerability-in-htc-android-devices-evo-3d-4g-thunderbolt-others-exposes-phone-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/ To Android users out there, just as it is generally a good idea to re-install Windows from scratch on OEM PCs, it seems it is also a good idea in terms of security to stop trusting the pre-installed Android OS you get with the phone and install your own firmware (ie. http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ ). - Hans From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 02:08:48 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 03:08:48 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones In-Reply-To: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com> References: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com> Message-ID: I just want a stupid phone, why can't any vendor provide me that? No texting / sexting / email / games / apps etc., just basic phone (call, receive). Maybe I'm the only guy in the world that wants this. I guess I'm way out of date. A. From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Oct 3 02:28:56 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:28:56 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web Message-ID: Hi Arthur I can help you. Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning means that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to Linux. But it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a method to define the context. The machine cannot make that decision for the user. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 03-10-2011 01:04 >>> .. what is the Meaning of Meaning? That is the question, and the answers are not easy, but we try despite the challenges. This stuff is not easy. A. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 02:34:34 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 03:34:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I get your point. Could be "Little Red Riding Hood" not "Linux". But that is precisely the conundrum, the meaning of "meaning". That is one tough nut to crack, and I do not pretend to have any solutions; I'm still working on it! And I thought databases were tough. This is a much more difficult problem LOL. A. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > I can help you. > > Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning means > that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. > If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to Linux. But > it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a method to define the > context. The machine cannot make that decision for the user. > > /gustav > > From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Oct 3 02:53:53 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:53:53 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones Message-ID: Hi Arthur Such phones exist here - with BIG digits on LARGE buttons - targeted not elderly but old people (and, of course, visually impaired people). Not for you. Surrender and get a Windows Phone 7. It will please your sense for concept and design and - admitted - bring some challenge for your creative thinking. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 03-10-2011 09:08 >>> I just want a stupid phone, why can't any vendor provide me that? No texting / sexting / email / games / apps etc., just basic phone (call, receive). Maybe I'm the only guy in the world that wants this. I guess I'm way out of date. A. From hans.andersen at phulse.com Mon Oct 3 03:09:23 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 01:09:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06892AAE-94B2-494F-A19A-0E1E647B82E3@phulse.com> Welcome to the realm of fuzzy logic and neural networks, where suddenly you realize just how much more powerful the human brain is compared to a computer and the only way for computers to compare is by having excellent statistical/probabilistic algorithms. Unfortunately, computers are quite poor at comprehending context, because they know nothing about human nature. My understanding of the semantic web, however, is not so much about the web understanding a context so much as the web developing a meta-layer (one not relevant to humans but more for computers), which can easily combine and associate information that computers would otherwise not know was related. A means for computers to talk to each other to build "context". Blogs do this by means of tags and such, but it is still relatively immature. Is this somewhat what you are referring to or are you implying something else - something more complex in nature? - Hans On 2011-10-03, at 12:34 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I get your point. Could be "Little Red Riding Hood" not "Linux". But that is > precisely the conundrum, the meaning of "meaning". That is one tough nut to > crack, and I do not pretend to have any solutions; I'm still working on it! > And I thought databases were tough. This is a much more difficult problem > LOL. > > A. > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > >> Hi Arthur >> >> I can help you. >> >> Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning means >> that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. >> If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to Linux. But >> it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a method to define the >> context. The machine cannot make that decision for the user. >> >> /gustav >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Oct 3 03:53:20 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:53:20 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones In-Reply-To: References: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com>, Message-ID: <4E897800.31871.BD10E11@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I've got a couple of mates who subscribe to exactly the same philosophy. Fortunately, we can buy them here. This is about the cheapest at the moment: http://www.bemobile.com.pg/handsets/huawei-g2100/ K29 is about USD13 -- Stuart On 3 Oct 2011 at 3:08, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I just want a stupid phone, why can't any vendor provide me that? No > texting / sexting / email / games / apps etc., just basic phone (call, > receive). Maybe I'm the only guy in the world that wants this. I guess > I'm way out of date. > > A. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Oct 3 03:55:17 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:55:17 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4E897875.12252.BD2D768@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> The only way it can work is if the system knows a lot more about you than you would want it to. You give up a lot of privacy in return for convenience. :-( -- Stuart On 3 Oct 2011 at 3:34, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I get your point. Could be "Little Red Riding Hood" not "Linux". But > that is precisely the conundrum, the meaning of "meaning". That is one > tough nut to crack, and I do not pretend to have any solutions; I'm > still working on it! And I thought databases were tough. This is a > much more difficult problem LOL. > > A. > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > > > Hi Arthur > > > > I can help you. > > > > Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning > > means that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. > > If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to > > Linux. But it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a > > method to define the context. The machine cannot make that decision > > for the user. > > > > /gustav > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Oct 3 04:15:58 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 11:15:58 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web Message-ID: Hi Stuart Yes. The art of retrieving the "correct" adds for you at a given context requires exactly the same. That's what Apple and Google try to do ... /gustav >>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 03-10-2011 10:55 >>> The only way it can work is if the system knows a lot more about you than you would want it to. You give up a lot of privacy in return for convenience. :-( -- Stuart On 3 Oct 2011 at 3:34, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I get your point. Could be "Little Red Riding Hood" not "Linux". But > that is precisely the conundrum, the meaning of "meaning". That is one > tough nut to crack, and I do not pretend to have any solutions; I'm > still working on it! And I thought databases were tough. This is a > much more difficult problem LOL. > > A. > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > > > Hi Arthur > > > > I can help you. > > > > Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning > > means that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. > > If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to > > Linux. But it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a > > method to define the context. The machine cannot make that decision > > for the user. > > > > /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Oct 3 07:18:37 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 05:18:37 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic Message-ID: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage this. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-se rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " Thoughts? Jim From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Oct 3 07:55:39 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:55:39 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic Message-ID: But Jim, that tracking will help Amazon to contribute to "The Semantic Web". /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 03-10-2011 14:18 >>> Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage this. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-serious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " Thoughts? Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 08:06:11 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:06:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LOL Gustav! On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > But Jim, that tracking will help Amazon to contribute to "The Semantic > Web". > > /gustav > > > From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Oct 3 08:47:57 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 06:47:57 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49DB4BF5BA9A47209BB29A8CEEF9011C@creativesystemdesigns.com> ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:56 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic But Jim, that tracking will help Amazon to contribute to "The Semantic Web". /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 03-10-2011 14:18 >>> Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage this. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-se rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " Thoughts? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 09:37:41 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:37:41 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] On a more serious note Message-ID: I'm re-reading "Godel's Proof", a guide to the ignorati toward Kurt Godel's Theorem, which I thought I comprehended at age 25 or so, but then I found myself unable to walk the steps to its proof, so I'm re-reading the literature. That's what one does in one's years of retirement, I guess. Re-reading Dostoevsky and Godel and Schopenhauer and hoping that this somehow means something. Unfortunately I have neither child and hence grandchildren, but maybe somebody will benefit from these scrawlings on the wall of my cave. Chances are few, but optimism is great. Reminds me of an old joke. The optimist says, "This is the best possible world." The pessimist agrees. A. From john at winhaven.net Mon Oct 3 10:40:03 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:40:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones In-Reply-To: <4E897800.31871.BD10E11@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com>, <4E897800.31871.BD10E11@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <016201cc81e2$b8735560$295a0020$@winhaven.net> We have them here too. They're called "Gitterbug". -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:53 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones I've got a couple of mates who subscribe to exactly the same philosophy. Fortunately, we can buy them here. This is about the cheapest at the moment: http://www.bemobile.com.pg/handsets/huawei-g2100/ K29 is about USD13 -- Stuart On 3 Oct 2011 at 3:08, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I just want a stupid phone, why can't any vendor provide me that? No > texting / sexting / email / games / apps etc., just basic phone (call, > receive). Maybe I'm the only guy in the world that wants this. I guess > I'm way out of date. > > A. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Oct 3 10:40:03 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:40:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> "If you're concerned with online privacy, I simply wouldn't use the Silk browser in its full mode. To Amazon's credit, you can opt out of Silk's cloud-enhanced mode. To quote Amazon, "You can also choose to operate Amazon Silk in basic or 'off-cloud' mode." Paranoia is great. Does anyone really think that Apple gives the same consideration with the Mac/iPhone/iPod/iPad? Since they pretty much force you to use Apple services by setting them as defaults, for almost everything, they are collecting data about everyone in a much more succinct manner. They are an inline hardware/OS/software/service and sales stack. Amazon finally joins them in that stack (although it isn't as complete as Apple's) and immediately they get smashed for it. If only Amazon had thought to form a technological cult for protection from this kind of slander (like Apple did ;o) I wonder if this article was written on a Mac. While I also don't trust any large corporation, I realize that as soon as I connect to a web site my ISP (presently AT&T) know about it. I can't think of a large corporation I trust less. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:19 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage this. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-se rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " Thoughts? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 12:00:15 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:00:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: While not disputing your mistrust of AT&T and anyone elese, I am interested in "Is there an app that can trace what my browser is doing behind the scenes?" Not that I visit sites that would be embarrassing or even criminal, just curious, and desiring not to leave footprints. Yeah big time compromise, I've been to slashdot and dba-AccessD and dba-tech, so arrest me for my alleged crimes. Mind you, I have responded to Gustav and JWC, so I am probably guilty of something, I cannot figure out what just yet, but there must be some crime for hanging out with such miscreants. Ok Ok I'll plead guilty. Oh, I almost forgot, that William Hindman, he's probably responsible for this mess. Yup yup yup, it's Hindman at the bottom of this, JWC and Gustav get a walk, Hindman not so lucky. A. From john at winhaven.net Mon Oct 3 12:06:55 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:06:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <01bc01cc81ee$da91ce90$8fb56bb0$@winhaven.net> Lol - where is the old curmudgeon these days? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 12:00 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic While not disputing your mistrust of AT&T and anyone elese, I am interested in "Is there an app that can trace what my browser is doing behind the scenes?" Not that I visit sites that would be embarrassing or even criminal, just curious, and desiring not to leave footprints. Yeah big time compromise, I've been to slashdot and dba-AccessD and dba-tech, so arrest me for my alleged crimes. Mind you, I have responded to Gustav and JWC, so I am probably guilty of something, I cannot figure out what just yet, but there must be some crime for hanging out with such miscreants. Ok Ok I'll plead guilty. Oh, I almost forgot, that William Hindman, he's probably responsible for this mess. Yup yup yup, it's Hindman at the bottom of this, JWC and Gustav get a walk, Hindman not so lucky. A. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hans.andersen at phulse.com Mon Oct 3 14:24:51 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:24:51 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: John, While it is true for any cell phone carrier to log what you do, this is no different than with your ISP, which you are using to send this email with. What makes what Amazon is doing very unusual is that the are going to be putting themselves as a man in the middle between even secure HTTPS communication, meaning that you will no longer be able to trust the security of that protocol anymore. Amazon is breaking the chain of trust that allows you to do online banking, for instance, without the fear that your banking details can be leaked. I think using this sort of proxy by default (meaning that 99% of consumers will not disable it since they don't know any better) is questionable in of itself, but it wouldn't be so bad if they only applied it to normal unsecured traffic. No other company presently does this or anything that compares. Not Microsoft nor Apple etc. The only other company that has done anything like this is Opera, with their Opera Mini browser and they got bad press for it. Best regards, Hans On 3 Oct 2011, at 08:40, "John Bartow" wrote: > "If you're concerned with online privacy, I simply wouldn't use the Silk > browser in its full mode. To Amazon's credit, you can opt out of Silk's > cloud-enhanced mode. To quote Amazon, "You can also choose to operate Amazon > Silk in basic or 'off-cloud' mode." > > Paranoia is great. Does anyone really think that Apple gives the same > consideration with the Mac/iPhone/iPod/iPad? Since they pretty much force > you to use Apple services by setting them as defaults, for almost > everything, they are collecting data about everyone in a much more succinct > manner. They are an inline hardware/OS/software/service and sales stack. > Amazon finally joins them in that stack (although it isn't as complete as > Apple's) and immediately they get smashed for it. If only Amazon had thought > to form a technological cult for protection from this kind of slander (like > Apple did ;o) I wonder if this article was written on a Mac. > > While I also don't trust any large corporation, I realize that as soon as I > connect to a web site my ISP (presently AT&T) know about it. I can't think > of a large corporation I trust less. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:19 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic > > Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. > > " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you > to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites > directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you > read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. > > This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage > this. > > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-se > rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " > > Thoughts? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Oct 3 14:56:58 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:56:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <024d01cc8206$9c414680$d4c3d380$@winhaven.net> Hans, I'd agree that when the page switches to HTTPS that there should be, by default, be a switch over to non-cached/proxied communications on Amazon's part. Thank you, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian Andersen Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic John, While it is true for any cell phone carrier to log what you do, this is no different than with your ISP, which you are using to send this email with. What makes what Amazon is doing very unusual is that the are going to be putting themselves as a man in the middle between even secure HTTPS communication, meaning that you will no longer be able to trust the security of that protocol anymore. Amazon is breaking the chain of trust that allows you to do online banking, for instance, without the fear that your banking details can be leaked. I think using this sort of proxy by default (meaning that 99% of consumers will not disable it since they don't know any better) is questionable in of itself, but it wouldn't be so bad if they only applied it to normal unsecured traffic. No other company presently does this or anything that compares. Not Microsoft nor Apple etc. The only other company that has done anything like this is Opera, with their Opera Mini browser and they got bad press for it. Best regards, Hans On 3 Oct 2011, at 08:40, "John Bartow" wrote: > "If you're concerned with online privacy, I simply wouldn't use the > Silk browser in its full mode. To Amazon's credit, you can opt out of > Silk's cloud-enhanced mode. To quote Amazon, "You can also choose to > operate Amazon Silk in basic or 'off-cloud' mode." > > Paranoia is great. Does anyone really think that Apple gives the same > consideration with the Mac/iPhone/iPod/iPad? Since they pretty much > force you to use Apple services by setting them as defaults, for > almost everything, they are collecting data about everyone in a much > more succinct manner. They are an inline hardware/OS/software/service and sales stack. > Amazon finally joins them in that stack (although it isn't as complete > as > Apple's) and immediately they get smashed for it. If only Amazon had > thought to form a technological cult for protection from this kind of > slander (like Apple did ;o) I wonder if this article was written on a Mac. > > While I also don't trust any large corporation, I realize that as soon > as I connect to a web site my ISP (presently AT&T) know about it. I > can't think of a large corporation I trust less. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Lawrence > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:19 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet > traffic > > Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. > > " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire > forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of > accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track > everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. > > This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly > discourage this. > > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser- > has-se rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " > > Thoughts? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Oct 5 14:13:04 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:13:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: The passing of Drew Wutka In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c701cc8392$cff14060$6fd3c120$@winhaven.net> Hello All, I have some sad news to share with you all. Long time lister and friend to many, Drew Wutka, passed away Monday. His friend, Ken, contacted me and a number of other board members to share this news with us because he knew that Drew participated on the DBA lists as he spoke of it often. A coworker walked by Drew's office he saw that he had his head on his desk and went in to check on him. The coworker found that he and no pulse. The paramedics were called and he was taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead upon arrival. Ken will keep me apprised of the situation and I will pass it on to everyone as soon as he shares any further information. My deepest condolences to all of Drew's family and friends. John Bartow, President Database Advisors, Inc. Office: 920-582-7574 Mobile: 920-410-7574 From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 15:26:30 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:26:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Imaginary Friends Message-ID: A guy that I have never physically met, but communicated with for about the last six years, died on Monday. He as approximately 10 years younger than I, and so why he should go first is inexplicable. His name was Drew Wutka, and he wrote lots of brilliant code, and shared it freely, and offered lessons in coding to everyone. The world is a lesser place without him. He wrote some of the coolest code I ever read in my life, and made me sick with envy. He could compress a deep idea into 10 lines of code. From john at winhaven.net Wed Oct 5 18:11:35 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:11:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Drew Wutka's Services In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01b201cc83b4$214d2e80$63e78b80$@winhaven.net> Forwarded From Ken: I spoke with Drew's mom and told her the many wonderful and kind things you guys have written about Drew.? I told her I could forward them and she was excited, so I did in fact send them to her.? ? If you have anything you can share I am certain she and Hannah, and his Dad would love it.? Her email address is: nwutka at sbcglobal.com The following is the information relating to his services: Viewing at Turrentine Jackson Morrow I-75 and ridgeview Thursday 6-7 972-562-2601 Preston Meadow Lutheran 10:30 Friday after back to church for light lunch 972-618-2233 Please feel free to contact me and share this information as you deem necessary. Kenneth Van Huss ? VanGard Systems Office (214) 801-4357 ext 335 Fax??? (214) 299-8597 Cell??? (214) 243-5659 kvanhuss at airrsystem.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Oct 5 18:21:04 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:21:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Drew Wutka memorial ideas Message-ID: <01b301cc83b5$741defe0$5c59cfa0$@winhaven.net> Hello Listers, While I agree that we should do something as a group, I also encourage you all to act on your own accord. As Ken mentioned in his email that I just sent out, his family was very happy to hear of our fond thoughts and reminiscing's of Drew. I encourage you to send emails, Facebooks postings, cards, etc. I would like to see what everyone would like to do for Drew. A couple of ideas were to send something to his service from DBA, collect for a DBA memorial fund to aid his daughter Hannah. Any other ideas? John Bartow WinHaven Consulting PO Box 130 Winneconne, WI 54986 Office: 920-582-7574 Mobile: 920-410-7574 From hans.andersen at phulse.com Wed Oct 5 20:59:49 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:59:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs: 1955-2011 Message-ID: http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/ From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Oct 6 10:05:01 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:05:01 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Imaginary Friends In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E8DC39D.6090300@torchlake.com> Even younger than that, Arthur. I believe he just had his 39th birthday. It is really hard to lose him. Thanks to Drew, I have a small understanding of the 'treeview' control. Now, I have to finish understanding that one on my own, but at least he got me started. I will miss him terribly. T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/5/2011 4:26 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > A guy that I have never physically met, but communicated with for about the > last six years, died on Monday. He as approximately 10 years younger than I, > and so why he should go first is inexplicable. His name was Drew Wutka, and > he wrote lots of brilliant code, and shared it freely, and offered lessons > in coding to everyone. The world is a lesser place without him. He wrote > some of the coolest code I ever read in my life, and made me sick with envy. > He could compress a deep idea into 10 lines of code. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From john at winhaven.net Thu Oct 6 21:08:25 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:08:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Drew Wutka's Obituary page Message-ID: <01d401cc8495$ffb642b0$ff22c810$@winhaven.net> http://www.turrentinejacksonmorrow.com/detail.php?id=6177 From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Oct 10 05:14:51 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:14:51 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] New Remote Chrome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The new Chrome browser is also capable of remotely taking over another computer. http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20117619-264/chrome-extension-enables-remo te-computer-control/ Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 10:00:39 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:00:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs: The Last Word Message-ID: It's only fitting that Steve himself get the last word. To preface, like the Beatles and many others, Steve wandered India for a while, where he converted to Buddhism. He also experimented with LSD, which he described as "one of the two or three most important things [he had done] in [his] life." The following is quoted from a speech he gave to Stanford University's students in 2005: "You can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something -- your gut, destiny, life, mkarma, whaever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life.... "If you live each day as if it were your last, someday you will most certainly be right. "For the past 13 years I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself if the day were the last in my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today? And when the answer has been 'No' for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something. "Remember that I would be dead soon is the most important tool I have encountered to help me make the right choices in life. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. "No one wants to die and yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that's as it should be because Death is very likely the single best invention of life. It is life's change agent. It clears up the old to make way for the new. "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma, don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you want to become. Everything else is secondary." Words to print out and hang beside our bathroom mirror. Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 08:04:23 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:04:23 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers Message-ID: There is no honour among scammers, obviously, but still, it's disappointing that they have leapt into the post-Steve-Jobs opening. See: http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-death-facebook-scam/?utm_source=Non-campaign&utm_medium=eNews-newsletter&utm_campaign=eNews-NL-20111011SplitA Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Oct 12 12:27:54 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:27:54 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Very sad indeed but not unexpected... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers There is no honour among scammers, obviously, but still, it's disappointing that they have leapt into the post-Steve-Jobs opening. See: http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-death-facebook-scam/?u tm_source=Non-campaign&utm_medium=eNews-newsletter&utm_campaign=eNews-NL-201 11011SplitA Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 12:54:14 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:54:14 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Maybe I should file a fake OBIT and see if any scammers come out of the woodwork. Noted SQL author has died, please send lots of money to xxx at yyy.com. LOL. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Very sad indeed but not unexpected... > > Jim > > From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Oct 12 13:16:43 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:16:43 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: I would bet if you did it up right there would be someone sending money. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:54 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers Maybe I should file a fake OBIT and see if any scammers come out of the woodwork. Noted SQL author has died, please send lots of money to xxx at yyy.com. LOL. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Very sad indeed but not unexpected... > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 13:22:15 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:22:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: LOL. I'll get to work on it right away! A. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > I would bet if you did it up right there would be someone sending money. > ;-) > > Jim > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 13:25:29 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:25:29 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Itinerant SQL guru in need of a brain transplant and a hot lover seeks donations from everyone I have ever helped on DBA... You think that will fly? Or should I dress it up with leprosy, HIV, ebola, plague etc.? A. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > LOL. I'll get to work on it right away! > > > From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 12 14:13:17 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:13:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server Message-ID: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> Our patchwork home entertainment system has a DVD player/recorder that we watch NetFlix DVDs on, and occasionally record satellite TV video with. It's fine for that, but it doubles as the system's CD player, and with that there are two problems: CD playback isn't terrific, and who wants to fiddle with single CDs any more? Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point & click when we want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB drive and HDMI could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form and deliver the material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our receiver with better quality than most CD players costing three times that much. Anybody have an idea what might be wrong with this setup? PB From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Oct 12 14:57:56 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:57:56 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Just the time involves in ripping about a thousand CDs. I can remember when we described data storage capacity in KiloBytes. Now, it seems that Megabytes is being replaced by TeraBytes as the standard unit. How long before we start referring to it in PetaBytes :-) -- Stuart On 12 Oct 2011 at 14:13, Peter Brawley wrote: > Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point & click > when we want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB > drive and HDMI could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form > and deliver the material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our > receiver with better quality than most CD players costing three times > that much. Anybody have an idea what might be wrong with this setup? > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 15:32:24 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:32:24 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: We're already there, Stu. Not that I can afford it or have need for it, but we're already there, and in the interim we have multi-GB SSDs...so the platform evolves to: 1) local HD 2) external HD with mirror enabling Instant Restore A brand-new box ought to automagically create a bare-bones bootup CD. At a user-determined point (e.g after having installed apps a1, a2, a3, etc.) IOW, I need to have a mirror of what the system looked like 10 minutes ago, in case I made a foolish decision in the past 10 minutes. This is not an unlikely result. There are so many things to get wrong that I can pretty much guarantee that Im g. You see? This software has prevented me from sending my message. Earth to Marshall McLuhan: the medium is the Forked-Up Message, On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Just the time involves in ripping about a thousand CDs. > > > I can remember when we described data storage capacity in KiloBytes. Now, > it seems that > Megabytes is being replaced by TeraBytes as the standard unit. How long > before we start > referring to it in PetaBytes :-) > > > -- > Stuart > > > On 12 Oct 2011 at 14:13, Peter Brawley wrote: > > > Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point & click > > when we want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB > > drive and HDMI could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form > > and deliver the material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our > > receiver with better quality than most CD players costing three times > > that much. Anybody have an idea what might be wrong with this setup? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 15:54:03 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:54:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: In this scenario I wonder where the digital to audio conversion happens? That is normally done IN the CD player or in a PC in the SOUND CARD. It's the main reason why people upgrade sound card hardware to get better conversion logic isn't it? If you play a song from the netbook does the sound even come out of the HDMI connection or is that intended to be primarily the VIDEO feed. I know that HDMI can supply both audio and video and does in the typical home theater scenario such as between the cable box and the receiver and the DVD player and the receiver and from the receiver or the DVD player directly to the TV. But I wonder if the sound in the netbook comes out of the headphone jack and not the HDMI? I'd test it before you go to far. And it will take a fair bit of time to rip your CD's. I did about 400 or so a couple years back and it took me a few weeks of doing it on a regular PC with two drives flip flopping back and forth. I didn't bother with lossless though. I don't hear all THAT well. And actually I still play the actual CD's for the most part instead of listening to the ripped ones on the PC. I do listen to those on other PC's in the house and on my portable music players. GK. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > Our patchwork home entertainment system has a DVD player/recorder that we > watch NetFlix DVDs on, and occasionally record satellite TV video with. It's > fine for that, but it doubles as the system's CD player, and with that there > are two problems: CD playback isn't terrific, and who wants to fiddle with > single CDs any more? > > Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point & click when we > want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB drive and HDMI > could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form and deliver the > material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our receiver with better > quality than most CD players costing three times that much. Anybody have an > idea what might be wrong with this setup? > > PB > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 12 17:09:48 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:09:48 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E96102C.50606@earthlink.net> On 10/12/2011 3:54 PM, Gary Kjos wrote: > In this scenario I wonder where the digital to audio conversion > happens? That is normally done IN the CD player or in a PC in the > SOUND CARD. It's the main reason why people upgrade sound card > hardware to get better conversion logic isn't it? If you play a song > from the netbook does the sound even come out of the HDMI connection > or is that intended to be primarily the VIDEO feed. I know that HDMI > can supply both audio and video and does in the typical home theater > scenario such as between the cable box and the receiver and the DVD > player and the receiver and from the receiver or the DVD player > directly to the TV. But I wonder if the sound in the netbook comes out > of the headphone jack and not the HDMI? Analogue sound converted by the sound card comes out the headphone jack, 0s and 1s come out the HDMI jack and the receiver converts, no? > > I'd test it before you go to far. Excellent advice, but to test it I need to buy a netbook with an HDMI interface :-) , so I guess I need to ask if anyone has walked down this path. > > And it will take a fair bit of time to rip your CD's. I rip 'em anyway for the mp3 player, very little babysitting required, MediaMonkey does a terrific job, might as well do it twice, once to mp3, once to flac. PB ----- > I did about 400 > or so a couple years back and it took me a few weeks of doing it on a > regular PC with two drives flip flopping back and forth. I didn't > bother with lossless though. I don't hear all THAT well. And actually > I still play the actual CD's for the most part instead of listening to > the ripped ones on the PC. I do listen to those on other PC's in the > house and on my portable music players. > > GK. > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Peter Brawley > wrote: >> Our patchwork home entertainment system has a DVD player/recorder that we >> watch NetFlix DVDs on, and occasionally record satellite TV video with. It's >> fine for that, but it doubles as the system's CD player, and with that there >> are two problems: CD playback isn't terrific, and who wants to fiddle with >> single CDs any more? >> >> Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point& click when we >> want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB drive and HDMI >> could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form and deliver the >> material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our receiver with better >> quality than most CD players costing three times that much. Anybody have an >> idea what might be wrong with this setup? >> >> PB >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 12 17:12:28 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:12:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4E9610CC.80303@earthlink.net> On 10/12/2011 2:57 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Just the time involves in ripping about a thousand CDs. > > > I can remember when we described data storage capacity in KiloBytes. First computer I worked on was an IBM 1710, 64k of memory and filled a large room. PB ----- > Now, it seems that > Megabytes is being replaced by TeraBytes as the standard unit. How long before we start > referring to it in PetaBytes :-) > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 17:29:41 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:29:41 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E96102C.50606@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E96102C.50606@earthlink.net> Message-ID: A tad off topic, but recently I have discovered a wonderful free progam that captures all the info relevant to any given CD. Since it's free, I have no commercial interest in this venture. I just want to commend this person for his excellent efforts. Seldom have I seen such a pretty piece of software. It takes about 30 seconds to learn its interface and it does something very beautiful with your data. www.antp.be/software/moviecatalog/ However, this software only works for dvd/movies. Granted that I am a dinosaur, and still thrill to the feel of pages, I'm searching for the equivalent cataloger for my books. It needs to work just like the software cited above, but uses Books as its source. I cannot recommend this software enough without weeping. If you have, as I do, several hundred instances of DVDs, and wish to catalog them, this software is your baby. This software does a magnificent job, and lest you suspect that I am in for some commercial piece, the software is free, so how could I possibly benefit from an endorsement? Grab this software, and if there's an opportunity, tell him that I suggested that you visit. This stuff is good, and also free. A. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > On 10/12/2011 3:54 PM, Gary Kjos wrote: > >> In this scenario I wonder where the digital to audio conversion >> happens? That is normally done IN the CD player or in a PC in the >> SOUND CARD. It's the main reason why people upgrade sound card >> hardware to get better conversion logic isn't it? If you play a song >> from the netbook does the sound even come out of the HDMI connection >> or is that intended to be primarily the VIDEO feed. I know that HDMI >> can supply both audio and video and does in the typical home theater >> scenario such as between the cable box and the receiver and the DVD >> player and the receiver and from the receiver or the DVD player >> directly to the TV. But I wonder if the sound in the netbook comes out >> of the headphone jack and not the HDMI? >> > Analogue sound converted by the sound card comes out the headphone jack, 0s > and 1s come out the HDMI jack and the receiver converts, no? > > >> I'd test it before you go to far. >> > Excellent advice, but to test it I need to buy a netbook with an HDMI > interface :-) , so I guess I need to ask if anyone has walked down this > path. > > >> And it will take a fair bit of time to rip your CD's. >> > I rip 'em anyway for the mp3 player, very little babysitting required, > MediaMonkey does a terrific job, might as well do it twice, once to mp3, > once to flac. > > PB > > ----- > >> I did about 400 >> or so a couple years back and it took me a few weeks of doing it on a >> regular PC with two drives flip flopping back and forth. I didn't >> bother with lossless though. I don't hear all THAT well. And actually >> I still play the actual CD's for the most part instead of listening to >> the ripped ones on the PC. I do listen to those on other PC's in the >> house and on my portable music players. >> >> GK. >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Peter Brawley >> wrote: >> >>> Our patchwork home entertainment system has a DVD player/recorder that we >>> watch NetFlix DVDs on, and occasionally record satellite TV video with. >>> It's >>> fine for that, but it doubles as the system's CD player, and with that >>> there >>> are two problems: CD playback isn't terrific, and who wants to fiddle >>> with >>> single CDs any more? >>> >>> Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point& click when >>> we >>> >>> want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB drive and >>> HDMI >>> could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form and deliver the >>> material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our receiver with better >>> quality than most CD players costing three times that much. Anybody have >>> an >>> idea what might be wrong with this setup? >>> >>> PB >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com > From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Oct 12 17:33:52 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:33:52 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <2A3FD50563854BCDB4FCD482B8451BF9@creativesystemdesigns.com> The new brain transplant is not what you need; you could end up with a brain from Abe Normal. You should have been more careful when you picked your parents. I think it would be a good idea to leave out the plague part. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:25 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers Itinerant SQL guru in need of a brain transplant and a hot lover seeks donations from everyone I have ever helped on DBA... You think that will fly? Or should I dress it up with leprosy, HIV, ebola, plague etc.? A. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > LOL. I'll get to work on it right away! > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 00:56:44 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:56:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Blackberry outage Message-ID: I can't prove it but I suspect that there is a plot afoot, and thereby drive the stock down, and thence scoop the shares cheaply. My bet is to buy RIM shares now, before the dumpster-divers close in. I hate those further-morkers, and I wish there were a flat-rate tax system that would tax them the same percentage as working-class people. But I digress. Some serious players are out to undermine RIM, and to drive its stock down in preparation for a takeover. There is some ugly business afoot here. This is corporate warfare rearing its ugly head. It's not the first time it's happened, but this one might be its most visible example. This is how it works: a) hire some programmers to reverse-engineer the software. b) plant a seed and wait for it to grow into a massive weed. c) launch your own marketing plan offering something immune to said weed. That is what is happening to RIM currently, IMO. RIM's big thing has been its security, so how better to attack the company than to attack its security? Once that pillar has been dislodged, there is no company. And that is precisely what is occurring at present. I can't point fingers at specific companies, primarily because they are well-cloaked, but you can follow the cookie-trails and figure out which companies stand to profit most from RIM's downfall, or acquisition, or both. Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Oct 13 10:30:52 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:30:52 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is moving ahead In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58BC130D17B54BA1AE59BE7CF69BC3D9@creativesystemdesigns.com> After a much speculation, Microsoft has announced they are officially moving into the Map Reduced world of NOSQL. It seems that Hadoop, from Apache, will be fully integrated into MS SQL 2012 and Azure. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/12/microsoft_hadoop_integration_sql_ser ver/ This is great news. (John you are so lucky! ;-)) Jim From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Oct 13 17:15:55 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:15:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Blackberry outage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E97631B.7040707@torchlake.com> Hmmmm. Maybe we should be buying RIM stock. T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/13/2011 1:56 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I can't prove it but I suspect that there is a plot afoot, and thereby drive > the stock down, and thence scoop the shares cheaply. My bet is to buy RIM > shares now, before the dumpster-divers close in. I hate those > further-morkers, and I wish there were a flat-rate tax system that would tax > them the same percentage as working-class people. But I digress. > > Some serious players are out to undermine RIM, and to drive its stock down > in preparation for a takeover. There is some ugly business afoot here. This > is corporate warfare rearing its ugly head. It's not the first time it's > happened, but this one might be its most visible example. > > This is how it works: > > a) hire some programmers to reverse-engineer the software. > b) plant a seed and wait for it to grow into a massive weed. > c) launch your own marketing plan offering something immune to said weed. > > That is what is happening to RIM currently, IMO. RIM's big thing has been > its security, so how better to attack the company than to attack its > security? Once that pillar has been dislodged, there is no company. And that > is precisely what is occurring at present. I can't point fingers at specific > companies, primarily because they are well-cloaked, but you can follow the > cookie-trails and figure out which companies stand to profit most from RIM's > downfall, or acquisition, or both. > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Oct 13 18:12:29 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:12:29 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox has released it new Beta version called Aurora In-Reply-To: <58BC130D17B54BA1AE59BE7CF69BC3D9@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <58BC130D17B54BA1AE59BE7CF69BC3D9@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Firefox has released it new Beta version called Aurora or in 12 weeks when it is released as FF 8. It definitely is a lot faster, a bit cleaner, has better plug controls, uses less memory and has a host of features for all you web programmers. It also runs on virtually every OS. It supports HTML 5 and all the related features. Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Oct 14 03:40:57 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:40:57 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Blackberry outage In-Reply-To: <4E97631B.7040707@torchlake.com> References: <4E97631B.7040707@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Now is the time, my love. Takeover rumours abund, so this could be the perfect storm. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Tina Norris Fields < tinanfields at torchlake.com> wrote: > Hmmmm. Maybe we should be buying RIM stock. > T > > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Oct 18 12:25:09 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:25:09 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem Message-ID: Dear List: I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. No more. Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to Rename. MTIA Rocky From hkotsch at arcor.de Tue Oct 18 12:31:28 2011 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:31:28 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How good is the battery? Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky Smolin Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011 19:25 An: List Betreff: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem Dear List: I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. No more. Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to Rename. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Oct 18 12:47:32 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:47:32 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Full - no problem. Keyboard works fine. Just does the wrong thing (well a different thing than it used to) when I press F2 or F3. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem How good is the battery? Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky Smolin Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011 19:25 An: List Betreff: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem Dear List: I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. No more. Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to Rename. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 13:12:54 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:12:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: CTRL-SHIFT is supposed to reset keyboard shortcuts to Normal http://www.sevenforums.com/customization/93593-keyboard-acting-weird.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449 GK On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List: > > I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. ?But > recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be > Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. ?F3 used to be Find Again. ?No > more. > > Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old > settings. ?In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to > Rename. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From jason at purplecone.com Tue Oct 18 13:17:37 2011 From: jason at purplecone.com (Jason Strickland) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:17:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do have the F lock key pressed. My button is on upper right hand corner and if the light is not on, then different things happen when I press the F keysm On 10/18/11, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Full - no problem. Keyboard works fine. Just does the wrong thing (well a > different thing than it used to) when I press F2 or F3. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:31 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem > > How good is the battery? > > Helmut > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky Smolin > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011 19:25 > An: List > Betreff: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem > > > Dear List: > > I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But > recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be > Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. No > more. > > Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old > settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to > Rename. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- "One reason a dog has so many friends: he wags his tail instead of his tongue." From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Oct 18 13:34:02 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:34:02 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <555EBDFEE7CC41EFB794F353166AFE22@HAL9007> No joy there. :( But the second link does show that F2 should be rename. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:13 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem CTRL-SHIFT is supposed to reset keyboard shortcuts to Normal http://www.sevenforums.com/customization/93593-keyboard-acting-weird.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449 GK On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List: > > I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. ?But > recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be > Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. ?F3 used to be Find Again. ? > No more. > > Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my > old settings. ?In the device configuration I don't even see a way to > set F2 to Rename. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Oct 18 13:37:18 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:37:18 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69AB3DDCC789473F9B1E270ABD285645@HAL9007> Jason: F-lock - that was it!! It was off - should be on. Must have hit it by accident a few days ago. Thanks so much Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jason Strickland Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:18 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem Do have the F lock key pressed. My button is on upper right hand corner and if the light is not on, then different things happen when I press the F keysm On 10/18/11, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Full - no problem. Keyboard works fine. Just does the wrong thing > (well a different thing than it used to) when I press F2 or F3. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut > Kotsch > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:31 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem > > How good is the battery? > > Helmut > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky > Smolin > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011 19:25 > An: List > Betreff: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem > > > Dear List: > > I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But > recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be > Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. > No more. > > Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my > old settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to > set F2 to Rename. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- "One reason a dog has so many friends: he wags his tail instead of his tongue." _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 19 17:28:14 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:28:14 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> Last week I asked, why not sell our CD player, use MediaMonkey or dbPowerAmp to rip our CDs to lossless FLACs onto a $300 netbook with a .25TB HD, connect the netbook to the HDMI port of our AV receiver, and play all audio digitally from the netbook. Turns out that can't work. HDMI carries video, sometimes with audio too, but not audio alone. Sending digital audio from a 'puter directly into an AV receiver requires a digital output (toslink) from the the 'puter into the AV receiver's digital coaxial or optical audio input jacks. It's the rare laptop or netbook that has a toslink jack, so you need a USB dongle with that connection. But USB adds jitter, which doesn't sound good. Dead end. Enter Logitech's SqueezeBox Touch , which is getting rave reviews for losslessly streaming digital audio (mp3, wav, flac &c &c) from any wired or wifi network source straight into an AV receiver, at a purchase price of $230. Better still, there's an Android tablet user interface app. Looks like we'll go that way. PB From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Oct 19 18:57:49 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:57:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7B9855BD7EEB44529992CAE34D137E26@creativesystemdesigns.com> Who would have guessed that there had to be both video and audio for the hdmi to work. It sounds like software problems > drivers; to me. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:28 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server Last week I asked, why not sell our CD player, use MediaMonkey or dbPowerAmp to rip our CDs to lossless FLACs onto a $300 netbook with a .25TB HD, connect the netbook to the HDMI port of our AV receiver, and play all audio digitally from the netbook. Turns out that can't work. HDMI carries video, sometimes with audio too, but not audio alone. Sending digital audio from a 'puter directly into an AV receiver requires a digital output (toslink) from the the 'puter into the AV receiver's digital coaxial or optical audio input jacks. It's the rare laptop or netbook that has a toslink jack, so you need a USB dongle with that connection. But USB adds jitter, which doesn't sound good. Dead end. Enter Logitech's SqueezeBox Touch , which is getting rave reviews for losslessly streaming digital audio (mp3, wav, flac &c &c) from any wired or wifi network source straight into an AV receiver, at a purchase price of $230. Better still, there's an Android tablet user interface app. Looks like we'll go that way. PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Oct 20 10:57:52 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:57:52 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The battle ground In-Reply-To: <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3C2C5F69A57F457B958D1C28FABBF894@creativesystemdesigns.com> >From the early 80s to the late 90s Microsoft was the driving force of the computer PC world. You are not there until your CEO is demonized by many. ;-) Microsoft was definitely the power to beat or at least work with. As Microsoft was the King of desktops but relevance of the desktops was slowly disappearing...is it the end of the PC world? It will not just the end of the PC world but also the end of the big servers and their big software. Microsoft has long had a presence in that market but the real King of that software world has been Oracle and its servers have been Sun and HP and IBM. These server companies have been on a buying spree so to position themselves just to survive the next computer world shift. Oracle bought up Sun and its Open Source MySQL (which has seriously hurt the creditability of MySQL), IBM has been moving its markets into more nitch product lines and HP appears to currently be on the ropes. What is replacing all these areas of the computer world? Two major shifts; web based applications and the Open Source databases. 1. All the newer applications have been moving to the web, this is a world where the PC holds little relevance. The browser is becoming all-important and with the arrival of free and Open Source browsers, the price of entry is also free. Proprietary software has not been surviving as the Open Standards model has been pushing these products aside. 2. Open Source database products. The server market has long been dominated with big hardware and the software that supports it; mostly Oracle. The costs to get into this market has been astronomically expensive. Enter server capable OS DB like Postgres, new versions of MySQL and the whole NoSQL group of products. The NoSQL products have replaced the big servers in two ways; one they are Open Source and free, two; they can run on inexpensive hardware as they are fully distributive. The link following this preamble describes the players in this new world. There is hardly a mention of the old PC desktops and big Servers. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/160/tech-wars-2012-amazon-apple-google-f acebook Jim From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Thu Oct 20 14:08:04 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:08:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] The battle ground In-Reply-To: <3C2C5F69A57F457B958D1C28FABBF894@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> <3C2C5F69A57F457B958D1C28FABBF894@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4EA07194.6040300@earthlink.net> On 10/20/2011 10:57 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > From the early 80s to the late 90s Microsoft was the driving force of the > computer PC world. You are not there until your CEO is demonized by many. > ;-) > > Microsoft was definitely the power to beat or at least work with. As > Microsoft was the King of desktops but relevance of the desktops was slowly > disappearing...is it the end of the PC world? > > It will not just the end of the PC world but also the end of the big servers > and their big software. Microsoft has long had a presence in that market but > the real King of that software world has been Oracle and its servers have > been Sun and HP and IBM. > > These server companies have been on a buying spree so to position themselves > just to survive the next computer world shift. Oracle bought up Sun and its > Open Source MySQL (which has seriously hurt the creditability of MySQL), If the credibility of MySQL depends not just on the quality of the product, which Oracle has improved, but also depends on the database community's confidence in Oracle's stewardship, yes. Two straws in the wind: Oracle discontinued the cheapest MySQL Enterprise licences, and has allowed several MySQL fora to be overrun by spam, to the point of unusability for weeks on end, without effective remediation. PB ----- > IBM > has been moving its markets into more nitch product lines and HP appears to > currently be on the ropes. > > What is replacing all these areas of the computer world? Two major shifts; > web based applications and the Open Source databases. > > 1. All the newer applications have been moving to the web, this is a world > where the PC holds little relevance. The browser is becoming all-important > and with the arrival of free and Open Source browsers, the price of entry is > also free. Proprietary software has not been surviving as the Open Standards > model has been pushing these products aside. > > 2. Open Source database products. The server market has long been dominated > with big hardware and the software that supports it; mostly Oracle. The > costs to get into this market has been astronomically expensive. Enter > server capable OS DB like Postgres, new versions of MySQL and the whole > NoSQL group of products. The NoSQL products have replaced the big servers in > two ways; one they are Open Source and free, two; they can run on > inexpensive hardware as they are fully distributive. > > The link following this preamble describes the players in this new world. > There is hardly a mention of the old PC desktops and big Servers. > > http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/160/tech-wars-2012-amazon-apple-google-f > acebook > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Fri Oct 21 19:54:36 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:54:36 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? Message-ID: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Oct 21 22:03:23 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:03:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true Ubuntu server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Fri Oct 21 22:44:12 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:44:12 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. P. On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does > she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU > cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would > recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true Ubuntu > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any > Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and > test to see which OS gives the best results. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, mostly > the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? > > PB > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 01:12:48 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:12:48 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> Message-ID: What is Winders? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. P. On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does > she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU > cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would > recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true Ubuntu > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any > Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and > test to see which OS gives the best results. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, mostly > the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? > > PB > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Oct 22 04:03:05 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:03:05 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net>, <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net>, Message-ID: <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Micreserfts OS On 21 Oct 2011 at 23:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: > What is Winders? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current > desktops? > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > P. > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and > > does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of > > motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most > > expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so > > far the best and most reliable. > > > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > Ubuntu > > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as > > any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and > > Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current > > desktops? > > > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, > > mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any > > suggestions? > > > > PB > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 07:23:40 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:23:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4D907EB9276248B8B276F95BBAD0884E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Ahh, thanks Stuart, the dialect threw me. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:03 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? Micreserfts OS On 21 Oct 2011 at 23:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: > What is Winders? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current > desktops? > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > P. > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and > > does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of > > motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most > > expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so > > far the best and most reliable. > > > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > Ubuntu > > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as > > any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and > > Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current > > desktops? > > > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, > > mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any > > suggestions? > > > > PB > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sat Oct 22 08:34:47 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:34:47 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> The way they say "Windows" down heah :-) . PB On 10/22/2011 1:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > What is Winders? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > P. > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does >> she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU >> cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would >> recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. >> >> I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > Ubuntu >> server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any >> Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. >> >> If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and >> test to see which OS gives the best results. >> >> Jim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley >> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? >> >> My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, mostly >> the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? >> >> PB >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 10:52:46 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:52:46 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2C78AF2E3F7348DD90A374EA82BEBFD7@creativesystemdesigns.com> Ha ha... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:35 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? The way they say "Windows" down heah :-) . PB On 10/22/2011 1:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > What is Winders? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > P. > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does >> she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU >> cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would >> recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. >> >> I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > Ubuntu >> server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any >> Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. >> >> If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and >> test to see which OS gives the best results. >> >> Jim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley >> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? >> >> My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, mostly >> the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? >> >> PB >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From df.waters at comcast.net Sat Oct 22 10:54:59 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:54:59 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001c01cc90d2$f42b44b0$dc81ce10$@comcast.net> CPU - Intel i7 2600K (The K model let you tweak the CPU quite a bit) MB - GA-Z68XP-UD3 (Supports 6.0 Gb/s) Ram - Corsair XMS 8 Gb Cooler - XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283 SSD - m4 CT0128M4SSD2 128GB SATA 6.0Gb/s (use this for the OS and for apps) HD - WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" WD1002FAEX - OEM (Use this for data storage) Above costs roughly $800 Video Card - High End Be sure that all your components support SATA III (6 Gb/s). This is a good write-up on how to set up a combination of SSD and HD: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/windows-7-and-ssds-just-how-fast-are-they/290 2?tag=content;siu-container Good Luck! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:55 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 11:50:35 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:50:35 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 22 12:14:37 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:14:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Oct 22 13:41:45 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:41:45 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <001c01cc90d2$f42b44b0$dc81ce10$@comcast.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <001c01cc90d2$f42b44b0$dc81ce10$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <24786F7AFBCF4D5ABF9DD89909A1A4D5@HAL9007> My son built a computer over the summer - we had a great time shopping, assembling, debugging, loading software, configuring, debugging, etc., etc. Great fun. I also got a new comp over the summer. However, I did what I always do - go to the Dell site, configure my box, order up and a few days later they brought it to me. I fired it up, loaded my stuff and off I went. The two boxes were very similar in size, shape, speed, capacity, and price. If you're interested in just using a computer and don't get any goodies from fooling around with it, Plan B is my recommendation. Or any other off the shelf out of the box, comp - Staples, Office Depot, Costco, Sam. It's an appliance. I wouldn't build my own dishwasher, either. .02 Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:55 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 14:05:12 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:05:12 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: The last time I used the product was in the 90s and it was called PageMaker. It was not until a couple of months ago that InDesign was brought to my attention. I saw a friend build a book in about week (He is a professional) with graphics, writing and had it published later that week...a project like this would normally take a team a month. My daughters convinced me to look into the product for completing a book project I am currently working on and to say I am impressed is an under-statement. I am using InDesign CS5.5. (I also bought PhotoShop CS5.5) I must admit I downloaded torrents of the products, first, while I was considering whether to invest a fair chunk of cash and time. It did not take long until I realized it would be worth every penny and could, eventually expand into another revenue stream. It can now assemble virtually any graphic, text, animation and sound oject and export it all as a unified application. Much of it technology comes from Adobe's stable of products, like Illustartor, flash, Photshop and Dreamweaaver. Here is a few tidbit tutorials that will give you a feel for its new capabilities: http://tv.adobe.com/show/learn-indesign-cs5 If this does not impress you I will send along some XML data acquisition and display tutorials which can demonstart how the product can be extended all the way to a report writer and webbased data presentation manager. Interesting aside: Adobe and Autodesk have an almost complete strangle hold on every significant graphic and animation product. Without buying their products there would be no books, newspapers, advertisements or special effects or even animated movies... (Pixar, Disney and George Lucus and so on...)...they own it all. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 22 14:18:08 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:18:08 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <005d01cc90ef$55105920$ff310b60$@winhaven.net> CS 5.5 - Thanks. I'll eventually upgrade but I have the design Suite so it isn't cheap (understatement). I was going to wait for CS 6 since I think they'll have some of the newer features bugged out by then. I really like some of the new features of Photoshop CS 5.5! When I do upgrade I'll have to remember to ask you for those samples :o) BTW PageMaker and InDesign are two completely different products. PageMaker was continued with at least major version and a few minor ones after InDesign was released. InDesign was a product that was built from the ground up to incorporate various data types into one "document". It also added some of the basic functions needed to edit and create various data types itself (such as bitmap and vector images). But the full blown product is generally needed to do what professionals need to do. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:05 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign The last time I used the product was in the 90s and it was called PageMaker. It was not until a couple of months ago that InDesign was brought to my attention. I saw a friend build a book in about week (He is a professional) with graphics, writing and had it published later that week...a project like this would normally take a team a month. My daughters convinced me to look into the product for completing a book project I am currently working on and to say I am impressed is an under-statement. I am using InDesign CS5.5. (I also bought PhotoShop CS5.5) I must admit I downloaded torrents of the products, first, while I was considering whether to invest a fair chunk of cash and time. It did not take long until I realized it would be worth every penny and could, eventually expand into another revenue stream. It can now assemble virtually any graphic, text, animation and sound oject and export it all as a unified application. Much of it technology comes from Adobe's stable of products, like Illustartor, flash, Photshop and Dreamweaaver. Here is a few tidbit tutorials that will give you a feel for its new capabilities: http://tv.adobe.com/show/learn-indesign-cs5 If this does not impress you I will send along some XML data acquisition and display tutorials which can demonstart how the product can be extended all the way to a report writer and webbased data presentation manager. Interesting aside: Adobe and Autodesk have an almost complete strangle hold on every significant graphic and animation product. Without buying their products there would be no books, newspapers, advertisements or special effects or even animated movies... (Pixar, Disney and George Lucus and so on...)...they own it all. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Oct 22 14:41:56 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:41:56 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net><0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: I've got Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Premium and Adobe Premier Elements 4 - both from Max - student version. What have I got? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 22 15:14:52 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:14:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net><0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <008201cc90f7$41db6180$c5922480$@winhaven.net> Uhm, about $1500 or more worth of very capable software. And if you want to use it - a lot of learning to do ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:42 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign I've got Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Premium and Adobe Premier Elements 4 - both from Max - student version. What have I got? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 15:29:14 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:29:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <24786F7AFBCF4D5ABF9DD89909A1A4D5@HAL9007> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <001c01cc90d2$f42b44b0$dc81ce10$@comcast.net> <24786F7AFBCF4D5ABF9DD89909A1A4D5@HAL9007> Message-ID: Yeah, but is always nice to build your own...what do you do in the long evening when you would otherwise just be wasting your time sleeping? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:42 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My son built a computer over the summer - we had a great time shopping, assembling, debugging, loading software, configuring, debugging, etc., etc. Great fun. I also got a new comp over the summer. However, I did what I always do - go to the Dell site, configure my box, order up and a few days later they brought it to me. I fired it up, loaded my stuff and off I went. The two boxes were very similar in size, shape, speed, capacity, and price. If you're interested in just using a computer and don't get any goodies from fooling around with it, Plan B is my recommendation. Or any other off the shelf out of the box, comp - Staples, Office Depot, Costco, Sam. It's an appliance. I wouldn't build my own dishwasher, either. .02 Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:55 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 26 13:05:41 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:05:41 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server: followup In-Reply-To: <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4EA84BF5.3000804@earthlink.net> We bought a SqueezeBox Touch for $230. Installation is dead simple: plug it in, attach a cat5 wire (it does wifi but why cut speed & reliability in half?), plug its optical output into the receiver's aux optical in plug (the 2m cable is $25), download the server software (OS, written in Perl) from mysqleezebox.com, install it on a box that's on all the time, tell it where the music folders are, and bingo, we have point&click access to all our networked music plus hundreds of classical fm stations round the world (including Radio Beijing, which on the first evening's evidence likes to play Bach & Mozart piano pieces). The big advantages of hearing music ripped to FLACs through this setup are convenience & of course sound, which with SqueezeBox digital output is superbly clear & detailed. I might be able to match that with a $1K CD player, but ripping to the network with MediaMonkey is dead simple, I sit at a computer 8h a day anyway, and CD cabinets can be moved from the living room to a back room. The best things in life aren't always free but they're often cheap. PB From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 13:08:59 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:08:59 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server: followup In-Reply-To: <4EA84BF5.3000804@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> <4EA84BF5.3000804@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sounds like a great setup, and Iike the idea of moving the CD cabinet into storage. A. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > We bought a SqueezeBox Touch for $230. Installation is dead simple: plug it > in, attach a cat5 wire (it does wifi but why cut speed & reliability in > half?), plug its optical output into the receiver's aux optical in plug (the > 2m cable is $25), download the server software (OS, written in Perl) from > mysqleezebox.com, install it on a box that's on all the time, tell it > where the music folders are, and bingo, we have point&click access to all > our networked music plus hundreds of classical fm stations round the world > (including Radio Beijing, which on the first evening's evidence likes to > play Bach & Mozart piano pieces). > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 16:01:31 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:01:31 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Inside Windows Message-ID: I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 using the "run in Windows" option and the installation went well, but I'm not sure how to use it. No desktop icon was installed; a look in All Programs doesn't show anything related to Ubuntu, and a browse of the directory doesn't give me any indication of what to do. Curiously, though, a look in Control Panel | Remove a Program shows it listed there. Any idea what's going on, and what I should do to run it inside Windows? (Besides VM, obviously. This install option allegedly doesn't need a VM.) If necessary, I'll re-install it as a VM inside VirtualBox. TIA, Arthur From hans.andersen at phulse.com Wed Oct 26 19:14:24 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:14:24 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Inside Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Arthur, I haven't ever tried this, since I haven't been using Windows for a desktop since 2005, but I think what you are referring to is Wubi, which actually installs Ubuntu on your system in a file on your Windows partition, but, to my knowledge, you still need to reboot in order to boot into Ubuntu. I don't think it actually runs Ubuntu at the same time as Windows, like how a virtual machine works. It's still a dual-boot thing. I could be wrong though. I do know of some other distros that allow you to run Linux natively on Windows while it is running, much like a virtual machine, but its obviously faster. Have a look at coLinux . I think you might even be able to run Ubuntu itself under coLinux, but might require a bit of configuration. Even cooler, there is another distro that allows the same thing, but instead of having a separate environment running through a window, it will actually just integrate Linux apps into your Windows environment, so it feels transparent. It's called andLinux . Of course, these are fringe projects, so mileage may vary. * Hans-Christian Andersen **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com * * On 26 October 2011 14:01, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 using the "run in Windows" option and the > installation went well, but I'm not sure how to use it. No desktop icon was > installed; a look in All Programs doesn't show anything related to Ubuntu, > and a browse of the directory doesn't give me any indication of what to do. > Curiously, though, a look in Control Panel | Remove a Program shows it > listed there. > > Any idea what's going on, and what I should do to run it inside Windows? > (Besides VM, obviously. This install option allegedly doesn't need a VM.) > If > necessary, I'll re-install it as a VM inside VirtualBox. > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hans.andersen at phulse.com Wed Oct 26 19:20:06 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:20:06 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: I actually spotted a copy of Windows 97 once upon a time when travelling through asia. * Hans-Christian Andersen **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com * * On 22 October 2011 02:03, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Micreserfts OS > > On 21 Oct 2011 at 23:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > What is Winders? > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current > > desktops? > > > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > > > P. > > > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and > > > does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of > > > motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most > > > expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so > > > far the best and most reliable. > > > > > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > > Ubuntu > > > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as > > > any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > > > > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and > > > Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current > > > desktops? > > > > > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, > > > mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any > > > suggestions? > > > > > > PB > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hans.andersen at phulse.com Wed Oct 26 21:07:07 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:07:07 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Message-ID: I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I can't wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low cost, it's pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own custom media center or a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device as well. --------------------- Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed to plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost tablet. The expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. Provisional specification - 700MHz ARM11 - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM - OpenGL ES 2.0 - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode - Composite and HDMI video output - USB 2.0 - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot - General-purpose I/O - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) And for some pictures: * Hans-Christian Andersen **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com * * From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 02:45:03 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:45:03 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Inside Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Hans-Christian You mean that you use Linux on your every day desktop? If so, I envy you, I would love to be able to do that, but for 8 hours per day I need SSMS VS2010 and maybe a few other MS based tools, it is the SSMS that I use most and I could not really use an alternative. I suppose if I can get a good RDP client for Linux I could switch to Linux for most work, eg typing this email, and only RDP when I need Sql work. thanks for the inspiration Mark On 27 October 2011 01:14, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > Arthur, > > I haven't ever tried this, since I haven't been using Windows for a desktop > since 2005, but I think what you are referring to is > Wubi, > which actually installs Ubuntu on your system in a file on your Windows > partition, but, to my knowledge, you still need to reboot in order to boot > into Ubuntu. I don't think it actually runs Ubuntu at the same time as > Windows, like how a virtual machine works. It's still a dual-boot thing. I > could be wrong though. > > I do know of some other distros that allow you to run Linux natively on > Windows while it is running, much like a virtual machine, but its obviously > faster. Have a look at coLinux < > http://www.colinux.org/?section=screenshots>. > I think you might even be able to run Ubuntu itself under coLinux, but > might > require a bit of configuration. Even cooler, there is another distro that > allows the same thing, but instead of having a separate environment running > through a window, it will actually just integrate Linux apps into your > Windows environment, so it feels transparent. It's called > andLinux > . > > Of course, these are fringe projects, so mileage may vary. > > * > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > > > > > On 26 October 2011 14:01, Arthur Fuller wrote: > > > I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 using the "run in Windows" option and the > > installation went well, but I'm not sure how to use it. No desktop icon > was > > installed; a look in All Programs doesn't show anything related to > Ubuntu, > > and a browse of the directory doesn't give me any indication of what to > do. > > Curiously, though, a look in Control Panel | Remove a Program shows it > > listed there. > > > > Any idea what's going on, and what I should do to run it inside Windows? > > (Besides VM, obviously. This install option allegedly doesn't need a VM.) > > If > > necessary, I'll re-install it as a VM inside VirtualBox. > > > > TIA, > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 02:46:35 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:46:35 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Thanks Funny, I saw a copy of SQL Server 2006 in China back when 2005 was current. I remember being annoyed that I did not know it had been released:) Mark On 27 October 2011 01:20, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I actually spotted a copy of Windows 97 once upon a time when travelling > through asia. > > * > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > > > > > On 22 October 2011 02:03, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > > > Micreserfts OS > > > > On 21 Oct 2011 at 23:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > What is Winders? > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current > > > desktops? > > > > > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > > > > > P. > > > > > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and > > > > does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of > > > > motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most > > > > expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so > > > > far the best and most reliable. > > > > > > > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > > > Ubuntu > > > > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as > > > > any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > > > > > > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and > > > > Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of > > > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current > > > > desktops? > > > > > > > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, > > > > mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > > PB > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Oct 27 10:10:43 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:10:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> Hans-Christian, That is simply amazing! Gotta get one of those for myself - maybe get to be a distributor for them. Wow! T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/26/2011 10:07 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I can't > wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low cost, it's > pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own custom media center or > a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. > > http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 > > There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device as > well. > > --------------------- > > Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed to > plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost tablet. The > expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. > > Provisional specification > > - 700MHz ARM11 > - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM > - OpenGL ES 2.0 > - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode > - Composite and HDMI video output > - USB 2.0 > - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot > - General-purpose I/O > - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller > - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) > > And for some pictures: > > * > > > > > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Oct 27 10:12:35 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:12:35 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 In-Reply-To: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> References: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> Message-ID: One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: 27 October 2011 16:11 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Hans-Christian, That is simply amazing! Gotta get one of those for myself - maybe get to be a distributor for them. Wow! T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/26/2011 10:07 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I > can't wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low > cost, it's pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own > custom media center or a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. > > http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 > > There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device > as well. > > --------------------- > > Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed > to plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost > tablet. The expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. > > Provisional specification > > - 700MHz ARM11 > - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM > - OpenGL ES 2.0 > - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode > - Composite and HDMI video output > - USB 2.0 > - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot > - General-purpose I/O > - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller > - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) > > And for some pictures: > > * > > > > > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Oct 27 10:30:52 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:30:52 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Message-ID: Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Thu Oct 27 10:37:08 2011 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:37:08 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <128AD994E47F460CB3089B8E7B823D0F@BPCS> Jon, Dell Latitude Tablet announced and is scheduled for Nov 1 Release date. http://microsoft-news.com/dell-latitude-st-tablet-will-go-on-sale-from-nov-1st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+msftnws+%28Microsoft+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tydda Jon - Slough" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:12 AM To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: 27 October 2011 16:11 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Hans-Christian, That is simply amazing! Gotta get one of those for myself - maybe get to be a distributor for them. Wow! T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/26/2011 10:07 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I > can't wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low > cost, it's pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own > custom media center or a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. > > http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 > > There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device > as well. > > --------------------- > > Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed > to plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost > tablet. The expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. > > Provisional specification > > - 700MHz ARM11 > - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM > - OpenGL ES 2.0 > - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode > - Composite and HDMI video output > - USB 2.0 > - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot > - General-purpose I/O > - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller > - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) > > And for some pictures: > > * > > > > > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Oct 27 10:53:28 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:53:28 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Gustav, I'll take a look at it. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 27 October 2011 16:31 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Oct 27 10:53:42 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:53:42 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 In-Reply-To: <128AD994E47F460CB3089B8E7B823D0F@BPCS> References: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> <128AD994E47F460CB3089B8E7B823D0F@BPCS> Message-ID: Thanks Bill, looks interesting. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: 27 October 2011 16:37 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Jon, Dell Latitude Tablet announced and is scheduled for Nov 1 Release date. http://microsoft-news.com/dell-latitude-st-tablet-will-go-on-sale-from-nov-1st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+msftnws+%28Microsoft+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tydda Jon - Slough" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:12 AM To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: 27 October 2011 16:11 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Hans-Christian, That is simply amazing! Gotta get one of those for myself - maybe get to be a distributor for them. Wow! T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/26/2011 10:07 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I > can't wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low > cost, it's pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own > custom media center or a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. > > http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 > > There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device > as well. > > --------------------- > > Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed > to plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost > tablet. The expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. > > Provisional specification > > - 700MHz ARM11 > - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM > - OpenGL ES 2.0 > - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode > - Composite and HDMI video output > - USB 2.0 > - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot > - General-purpose I/O > - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller > - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) > > And for some pictures: > > * > > > > > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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From john at winhaven.net Thu Oct 27 11:35:03 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:35:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <023801cc94c6$60e88b70$22b9a250$@winhaven.net> Hey Jon, Let us know how it works out. I haven't read many good reviews on Windows tablets but I sure am not very happy with my Android tablet. I can't get it to recognize any USB or Bluetooth devices, it won't play flash video. It plays less than half of the videos on youtube - even though I have the youtube app. I can't get logmein to work on it. Basically useless other than browsing the web for non-video items. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:53 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Thanks Gustav, I'll take a look at it. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 27 October 2011 16:31 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Oct 27 11:47:20 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:47:20 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13B5D54A893D418C9AC0DFCAD1C293FB@creativesystemdesigns.com> The units are not that expensive unless you buy from a high-end computer store. If you can go factory direct type stores...there are a few in North America, but not sure anywhere else, the prices are about $450 each, less in volume and there is always direct shipping. In the high-end stores like BestBuy and Future shop, expect to pay up $700. They usually add a 100 percent margin to all their goods... (Manufacture's to direct-store price is about $350.) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:31 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Oct 27 15:08:23 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:08:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another cheap tablet has hit the market In-Reply-To: <13B5D54A893D418C9AC0DFCAD1C293FB@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <13B5D54A893D418C9AC0DFCAD1C293FB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Another cheap tablet has hit the market. It seems that India, with major government involvement is now producing a line of tablets, which will start at $35 and $60 outside India http://tinyurl.com/3slonsw It is a tablet device that is really trimmed down using only inexpensive components and it is definitely not fast but for people on a very tight budget this might for you. Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 15:20:07 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:20:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any Word experts? Message-ID: <066115B54E6C4D5699E90595F6C79152@SusanHarkins> Weird Word request -- does anyone know if you can unlink footnotes/endnotes, but leave everything intact -- in text markers, formatting, etc. -- just no actual link? Seems counter to the purpose and I've got not ideas whatsoever. Susan H. From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Oct 28 05:42:17 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:42:17 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Message-ID: We've got a Samsung Galaxy S Tablet here which runs on Android, but I haven't had the chance to use it - people keep "testing" it at home for extended periods... I'd love something like an iPad, but for simplicity, we all agree that we need the tablet to be on our AD Domain so that any user can log in and be up and running in seconds. Also, if we had an iPad or Android tablet, I'm sure it would make the device eminently more attractive to the more dishonest people... We're using a rugged Windows tablet in our laboratories here, it's a Motion CSV - they're totally waterproof, and very rugged (during the testing, we dropped them from 6 feet (whilst turned on) and there were no problems). They're not bad, but not the easiest thing to use - the handle is ok for carrying, but not for holding when you're using it, and the stylus had all sorts of issues until we found a piece of software that made it work correctly. There was an issue with double clicking using the stylus - you had to click on the exact same pixel, which was something of a challenge! Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: 27 October 2011 17:35 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hey Jon, Let us know how it works out. I haven't read many good reviews on Windows tablets but I sure am not very happy with my Android tablet. I can't get it to recognize any USB or Bluetooth devices, it won't play flash video. It plays less than half of the videos on youtube - even though I have the youtube app. I can't get logmein to work on it. Basically useless other than browsing the web for non-video items. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:53 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Thanks Gustav, I'll take a look at it. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 27 October 2011 16:31 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Oct 28 06:08:44 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:08:44 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow opening of Office files on Windows 2003 R2 server Message-ID: Hi all Should you ever (= most likely) come across this, we located the solution after extended googling/binging. It is described here in the message dated 2011-10-28 by me: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-AU/w7itproappcompat/thread/fe2dd0b0-c831-45ef-bb56-501e4fae53c7 Clients are a mix of WinXP and Win 7 and Office 2003/2007/2010 in all possible combinations (except 2010 on WinXP) and experienced serious delays in opening and often also closing of Word and Excel files not matching the expected speed of the setup with GBit ethernet all over. For the Win 7 clients with Office 2007/2010 solution was this (turning on the Web Client) in combination with disabling indexing on the user's offline files cache in Indexing Options in the Control Panel. For the Win 7 clients with Office 2003 and WinXP clients, this didn't change much (for WinXP the Web Client was already set to Automatic). However, turning off OFV (Office File Validation) made the trick. This is explained here next to the bottom: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg985445%28office.12%29.aspx To prevent Office File Validation from validating files you must create the following registry key and assign it a value of "0" for the specified application in Office 2003 or Office 2007: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\<11.0 or 12.0>\\Security\FileValidation, where <11.0 or 12.0> represents the version of Office and where represents the specific Office application for which Office File Validation is installed, such as Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. All necessary parameters for configuring the registry key are listed as follows: Value: EnableOnLoad Type: REG_DWORD Default: 2 Description: Disable Office File Validation 0 = Don't validate 1 = Validate 2 = Validate unless called via object model For Office 2010 replace the key above (11.0 or 12.0) with 14.0 We do not run Windows 2008 R2 as file server but I guess the issue would be the same. /gustav From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 09:58:25 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:58:25 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any Word experts? In-Reply-To: <066115B54E6C4D5699E90595F6C79152@SusanHarkins> References: <066115B54E6C4D5699E90595F6C79152@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: Speak with Bryan Carbonell (sp?). He seems to walk through the Word model effortlessly. I have even hired him to help me solve some problems, and was very happy with his deliverables. He knows this stuff inside out, and he taught me more than a few tricks. A. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Weird Word request -- does anyone know if you can unlink > footnotes/endnotes, but leave everything intact -- in text markers, > formatting, etc. -- just no actual link? Seems counter to the purpose and > I've got not ideas whatsoever. > > Susan H. > From carbonnb at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 13:04:37 2011 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:04:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any Word experts? In-Reply-To: References: <066115B54E6C4D5699E90595F6C79152@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: Thanks for the kind word Arthur. That was many moons, versions of Word and lifetimes ago :) That and I have NO idea how to do it :( Sorry Susan. B On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Speak with Bryan Carbonell (sp?). He seems to walk through the Word model > effortlessly. I have even hired him to help me solve some problems, and was > very happy with his deliverables. He knows this stuff inside out, and he > taught me more than a few tricks. > > A. > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> Weird Word request -- does anyone know if you can unlink >> footnotes/endnotes, but leave everything intact -- in text markers, >> formatting, etc. -- just no actual link? Seems counter to the purpose and >> I've got not ideas whatsoever. >> >> Susan H. >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 06:17:31 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 07:17:31 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fate Message-ID: This is about the funniest radio I have ever heard in my life, and I spend a lot of time listening to radio...a snowman that can bench-press 400 pounds LOL. http://www.thisamericanlife.org/play_full.php?play=323&act=2 What's the investment opportunity? Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 09:05:11 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 10:05:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another cheap tablet has hit the market In-Reply-To: References: <13B5D54A893D418C9AC0DFCAD1C293FB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: In my retirement years, this little baby is definitely within my price range. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Another cheap tablet has hit the market. It seems that India, with major > government involvement is now producing a line of tablets, which will start > at $35 and $60 outside India > > http://tinyurl.com/3slonsw > > From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 29 13:11:58 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:11:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <056c01cc9666$3fff0550$bffd0ff0$@winhaven.net> I tried one of the new Android v3 devices the other day and it seemed to handle every video I could find. Whether or not they have the USB and Bluetooth connectivity worked is yet to be determined. If I have time I'll ask the store clerk to try it for me :o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 5:42 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) We've got a Samsung Galaxy S Tablet here which runs on Android, but I haven't had the chance to use it - people keep "testing" it at home for extended periods... I'd love something like an iPad, but for simplicity, we all agree that we need the tablet to be on our AD Domain so that any user can log in and be up and running in seconds. Also, if we had an iPad or Android tablet, I'm sure it would make the device eminently more attractive to the more dishonest people... We're using a rugged Windows tablet in our laboratories here, it's a Motion CSV - they're totally waterproof, and very rugged (during the testing, we dropped them from 6 feet (whilst turned on) and there were no problems). They're not bad, but not the easiest thing to use - the handle is ok for carrying, but not for holding when you're using it, and the stylus had all sorts of issues until we found a piece of software that made it work correctly. There was an issue with double clicking using the stylus - you had to click on the exact same pixel, which was something of a challenge! Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: 27 October 2011 17:35 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hey Jon, Let us know how it works out. I haven't read many good reviews on Windows tablets but I sure am not very happy with my Android tablet. I can't get it to recognize any USB or Bluetooth devices, it won't play flash video. It plays less than half of the videos on youtube - even though I have the youtube app. I can't get logmein to work on it. Basically useless other than browsing the web for non-video items. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:53 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Thanks Gustav, I'll take a look at it. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 27 October 2011 16:31 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sat Oct 29 17:02:17 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:02:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage Message-ID: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp site? PB From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Oct 29 17:20:20 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:20:20 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4EAC7C24.32475.186ADA09@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> If it doesn't have removable storage such as an SD disk so that I can access those ebooks off-line, I won't be buying one. -- Stuart On 29 Oct 2011 at 17:02, Peter Brawley wrote: > If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or > fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your > own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp > site? > > PB > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jon at tydda.plus.com Sat Oct 29 17:34:36 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:34:36 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <721950FA1352406BACC63C5372376FB8@jt2c> I have the Kindle App on my iPhone, and all the books that aren't currently loaded are stored by Amazon. I don't use iBook or anything else like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: 29 October 2011 23:02 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp site? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sat Oct 29 18:00:59 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:00:59 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <4EAC7C24.32475.186ADA09@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> <4EAC7C24.32475.186ADA09@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4EAC85AB.2050700@earthlink.net> On 10/29/2011 5:20 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > If it doesn't have removable storage such as an SD disk so that I can access those ebooks > off-line, I won't be buying one. Interesting. If I have a $400 32G tablet with a $75 64G SD card, I can carry mebbe 15 books. That seems a low ceiling for that money, or an argument for buying cloud space and hoping for wifi everywhere I go. Which is why I'm asking. PB From john at winhaven.net Sun Oct 30 23:04:48 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:04:48 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <721950FA1352406BACC63C5372376FB8@jt2c> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> <721950FA1352406BACC63C5372376FB8@jt2c> Message-ID: <00b401cc9782$3d9417c0$b8bc4740$@winhaven.net> I do the same but with my PC, Android Tablet and Kindle device. I bought the Kindle because of e-ink being so easy on the eyes but have found that Kindle and Amazon have this thing down pat. If they have the video & music down as good with the Kindle Fire as they do with the standard Kindle then it should be great. I wish I would have waited until they released it because I find the Android Tablet I have to be a waste of money. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:35 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] tablet usage I have the Kindle App on my iPhone, and all the books that aren't currently loaded are stored by Amazon. I don't use iBook or anything else like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: 29 October 2011 23:02 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp site? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hans.andersen at phulse.com Mon Oct 31 01:27:29 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:27:29 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I use iCloud and the Kindle iPad app, which has more or less solved that issue for me. - Hans On 2011-10-29, at 3:02 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp site? > > PB > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 1 14:19:47 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 12:19:47 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Warning to Chrome users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7EB5C46DC9BE4A2AAD2A15D2D03F5DCB@creativesystemdesigns.com> To all of you who run the Chrome browser and Microsoft Essentuals there appears to be a conflict. The latest security update pegs Chrome as malware and removes it. http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/30/baleted/ Since then there has been MSE update that has corrected this but if you were caught in the interm Google has posted a step by step method to completely recover Chrome with all it setting. http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/09/problems-with-microsoft-security.html Jim From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 1 15:17:31 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 15:17:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Warning to Chrome users In-Reply-To: <7EB5C46DC9BE4A2AAD2A15D2D03F5DCB@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <7EB5C46DC9BE4A2AAD2A15D2D03F5DCB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <011d01cc8077$262934c0$727b9e40$@winhaven.net> Lol not surprising -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 2:20 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Warning to Chrome users To all of you who run the Chrome browser and Microsoft Essentuals there appears to be a conflict. The latest security update pegs Chrome as malware and removes it. http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/30/baleted/ Since then there has been MSE update that has corrected this but if you were caught in the interm Google has posted a step by step method to completely recover Chrome with all it setting. http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/09/problems-with-microsoft-security.html Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 1 21:26:58 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 19:26:58 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Breathe new life into old routers and optimize new ones In-Reply-To: <011d01cc8077$262934c0$727b9e40$@winhaven.net> References: <7EB5C46DC9BE4A2AAD2A15D2D03F5DCB@creativesystemdesigns.com> <011d01cc8077$262934c0$727b9e40$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <988EEDB3360846AEB11EF88E862623E9@creativesystemdesigns.com> If you have some old routers around, especially Linksys, this might be for you. A new Open Source Router OS that will add numerous feature to a router like tunneling, customized portals, security list, hosting and even databases. The following article describes the product: http://www.infoworld.com/d/networking/teach-your-router-new-tricks-dd-wrt-17 4050?page=0,0 Here is where you can get documentation and the current download. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation Jim From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Oct 2 11:56:15 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:56:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP Message-ID: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> Hi All, Some weeks ago we noted that an update to Win-7 seemed to break network connections to Win-XP machines. I had that experience. Then, after a few days, my network connections were all back - after presumably the next Win-7 (or Win-XP) update. Some time later, once again my network disappeared from the Win-7 machine - it cannot see any of the Win-XP machines. The Win-XP machines see each other but not the Win-7 machine. I've put off thinking about this, but now I need to. I really liked being able to reach across the network for things stored elsewhere - for example my genealogy database is on a shared external drive plugged into my Win-XP Pro machine. I don't so much like having to switch machines to go check something in that database. Nor am I wild about having to pop things onto a jump drive and transfer them via sneaker-net to my Win-7 machine in order to print them. (That's a different issue - the printer decided to stop seeing the wireless network, so it's plugged into a USB port on my Win-7 machine - I'll get to that after I work out this on-again off-again business with Win-7 and Win-XP.) Does anybody here know how I can re-establish my wireless network between Win-7 and Win-XP? Oh, and KEEP it re-established? Thanks. T -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 11:55:36 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 12:55:36 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web Message-ID: Is anyone interested in this topic? Well, aside from me and Sir Tim Berners-Lee and a few others. A couple of years ago, I had a brief contract (6 months) with a firm trying to turn this into a marketable vehicle. Is anyone else on this thread intrigued by this stuff? A. From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Oct 2 12:35:40 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 10:35:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP In-Reply-To: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> References: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <02D7072BCEDB4F998AC85FEF2097C11B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Tina: My simple solution would be to set up a server. My network is a miss-match of XP/Win7/Linux. They all connect happily through my new server2008 or 2003 without issues. You can use your main router as a domain server and that sometimes helps things. (If you are feel courageous see the article, I just posted on an Open Source replacement for router software/firmware.) The network protocol on Win7 is quite different from XP especially if you are mixing 32 and 64-bit machines. I have an article on that somewhere but cannot find it right now but check out the following basic link: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15247/complete-guide-to-networking-windows-7- with-xp-and-vista/ Sometimes machines will not talk to each other via their names and you end up having to use their IP address; i.e. 192.168.101.150 instead of Tina01. There is a many other things to check out though but the above list would be a good start. Keep me posted on your progress. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:56 AM To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP Hi All, Some weeks ago we noted that an update to Win-7 seemed to break network connections to Win-XP machines. I had that experience. Then, after a few days, my network connections were all back - after presumably the next Win-7 (or Win-XP) update. Some time later, once again my network disappeared from the Win-7 machine - it cannot see any of the Win-XP machines. The Win-XP machines see each other but not the Win-7 machine. I've put off thinking about this, but now I need to. I really liked being able to reach across the network for things stored elsewhere - for example my genealogy database is on a shared external drive plugged into my Win-XP Pro machine. I don't so much like having to switch machines to go check something in that database. Nor am I wild about having to pop things onto a jump drive and transfer them via sneaker-net to my Win-7 machine in order to print them. (That's a different issue - the printer decided to stop seeing the wireless network, so it's plugged into a USB port on my Win-7 machine - I'll get to that after I work out this on-again off-again business with Win-7 and Win-XP.) Does anybody here know how I can re-establish my wireless network between Win-7 and Win-XP? Oh, and KEEP it re-established? Thanks. T -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Oct 2 12:36:31 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 10:36:31 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81EB27B7B72244DDA99D9208D19F8A4C@creativesystemdesigns.com> We need more info Arthur. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:56 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web Is anyone interested in this topic? Well, aside from me and Sir Tim Berners-Lee and a few others. A couple of years ago, I had a brief contract (6 months) with a firm trying to turn this into a marketable vehicle. Is anyone else on this thread intrigued by this stuff? A. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Sun Oct 2 14:13:14 2011 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 12:13:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP In-Reply-To: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> References: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <2D57F2A6EE0A4542A86C8E8A61EFBA22@BPCS> Tina, The article Jim sent you may help, also you could check out this article. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120 Sometimes my NAS (Linux Based) does not show up in my Explorer, so I created a shortcut and click that, it opens my NAS but shortly after that it shows up in explorer. in the short cut target use \\BPCSNAS Or \\192.168.1.95 (obviously use the IP of the machine you want.) Also you can try just typing \\pcname in the search window and next time you look in network folder you may see the PC. HTH Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tina Norris Fields" Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:56 AM To: "DatabaseAdvisors-Tech" Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP Hi All, Some weeks ago we noted that an update to Win-7 seemed to break network connections to Win-XP machines. I had that experience. Then, after a few days, my network connections were all back - after presumably the next Win-7 (or Win-XP) update. Some time later, once again my network disappeared from the Win-7 machine - it cannot see any of the Win-XP machines. The Win-XP machines see each other but not the Win-7 machine. I've put off thinking about this, but now I need to. I really liked being able to reach across the network for things stored elsewhere - for example my genealogy database is on a shared external drive plugged into my Win-XP Pro machine. I don't so much like having to switch machines to go check something in that database. Nor am I wild about having to pop things onto a jump drive and transfer them via sneaker-net to my Win-7 machine in order to print them. (That's a different issue - the printer decided to stop seeing the wireless network, so it's plugged into a USB port on my Win-7 machine - I'll get to that after I work out this on-again off-again business with Win-7 and Win-XP.) Does anybody here know how I can re-establish my wireless network between Win-7 and Win-XP? Oh, and KEEP it re-established? Thanks. T -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 14:14:21 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 15:14:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: <81EB27B7B72244DDA99D9208D19F8A4C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <81EB27B7B72244DDA99D9208D19F8A4C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Google "Semantic Web" and ye shall seek and find what this is about. It's still problematic but we are working on it. In a nut, it's about introducing "meaning" into the otherwise stupid web-lookups. It's to be sure, a tough nut to crack, but I and several thousand others way smarter than I are attempting to crack it. It's one difficult nut to crack, and one problem is that it is apparently infinitely recursive: what means "meaning"? That one is a tough one, and I am lacking in ready answers. You got me on that one! I have no idea what the meaning of meaning is. I just stumble about in the forest. The semantic web attempts to turn URLs into something more intelligent, deriving their links not by mere links but into intelligent links. This is problematic to say the least, but an adventure worth exploration. Let's take a simple case: I search for "genetic algorithms" and a couple of hundred URLs show up; then I want to refine this list and narrow it down to a dozen or so. And then I want to refine this result-set to the last dozen or so papers presented on this topic. This should be three clicks from me to there. That's a simple case. Now let's get more complex and deal with the Semantic Web. I'm searching for let's say things to do with Quantum Theory, and this search might involve a whole bunch of stuff having little or nothing to do with physics. This is all about the meaning of Meaning and that's where it grows difficult, but this is exactly the place where I want to live. Paradoxes, recursions, etc. That's my chosen place to live. A. From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Oct 2 14:32:53 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:32:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP In-Reply-To: <02D7072BCEDB4F998AC85FEF2097C11B@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4E8897AF.6010808@torchlake.com> <02D7072BCEDB4F998AC85FEF2097C11B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4E88BC65.9010401@torchlake.com> Hi Jim, Thanks for the reply. I stayed with the 32-bit system when I got my Win-7 precisely because I have four Win-XP systems (all but one of them are Pro). Okay, this is where I start learning new things. I've been thinking about servers, but I have no experience with servers, so thinking is all I've done. I still have some functional D-Link DL-541 routers around that aren't doing anything. I will go check out the article you posted - if I can find it again. So, back into the "learning about networks" mode I go. Thank you for the howtogeek link. Knowledge is so like Swiss cheese - large areas of solid stuff with great gaping air pockets every so often - makes me feel stupid, sometimes. T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/2/2011 1:35 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina:. > > My simple solution would be to set up a server. My network is a miss-match > of XP/Win7/Linux. They all connect happily through my new server2008 or 2003 > without issues. You can use your main router as a domain server and that > sometimes helps things. (If you are feel courageous see the article, I just > posted on an Open Source replacement for router software/firmware.) > > The network protocol on Win7 is quite different from XP especially if you > are mixing 32 and 64-bit machines. I have an article on that somewhere but > cannot find it right now but check out the following basic link: > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15247/complete-guide-to-networking-windows-7- > with-xp-and-vista/ > > Sometimes machines will not talk to each other via their names and you end > up having to use their IP address; i.e. 192.168.101.150 instead of Tina01. > > > There is a many other things to check out though but the above list would be > a good start. > > Keep me posted on your progress. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:56 AM > To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech > Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless network Win-7 to Win-XP > > Hi All, > > Some weeks ago we noted that an update to Win-7 seemed to break network > connections to Win-XP machines. I had that experience. Then, after a > few days, my network connections were all back - after presumably the > next Win-7 (or Win-XP) update. Some time later, once again my network > disappeared from the Win-7 machine - it cannot see any of the Win-XP > machines. The Win-XP machines see each other but not the Win-7 machine. > > I've put off thinking about this, but now I need to. I really liked > being able to reach across the network for things stored elsewhere - for > example my genealogy database is on a shared external drive plugged into > my Win-XP Pro machine. I don't so much like having to switch machines > to go check something in that database. Nor am I wild about having to > pop things onto a jump drive and transfer them via sneaker-net to my > Win-7 machine in order to print them. (That's a different issue - the > printer decided to stop seeing the wireless network, so it's plugged > into a USB port on my Win-7 machine - I'll get to that after I work out > this on-again off-again business with Win-7 and Win-XP.) > > Does anybody here know how I can re-establish my wireless network > between Win-7 and Win-XP? Oh, and KEEP it re-established? Thanks. > > T > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Oct 2 14:47:39 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:47:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E88BFDB.50003@torchlake.com> Arthur, What is Semantic Web? T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/2/2011 12:55 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Is anyone interested in this topic? Well, aside from me and Sir Tim > Berners-Lee and a few others. A couple of years ago, I had a brief contract > (6 months) with a firm trying to turn this into a marketable vehicle. Is > anyone else on this thread intrigued by this stuff? > > A. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Oct 2 14:52:11 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:52:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: <81EB27B7B72244DDA99D9208D19F8A4C@creativesystemd esigns.com> Message-ID: <4E88C0EB.6090405@torchlake.com> Oh! Thanks! Yes, I would be fascinated by this. T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/2/2011 3:14 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Google "Semantic Web" and ye shall seek and find what this is about. It's > still problematic but we are working on it. In a nut, it's about introducing > "meaning" into the otherwise stupid web-lookups. It's to be sure, a tough > nut to crack, but I and several thousand others way smarter than I are > attempting to crack it. It's one difficult nut to crack, and one problem is > that it is apparently infinitely recursive: what means "meaning"? That one > is a tough one, and I am lacking in ready answers. You got me on that one! I > have no idea what the meaning of meaning is. I just stumble about in the > forest. > > The semantic web attempts to turn URLs into something more intelligent, > deriving their links not by mere links but into intelligent links. This is > problematic to say the least, but an adventure worth exploration. Let's take > a simple case: I search for "genetic algorithms" and a couple of hundred > URLs show up; then I want to refine this list and narrow it down to a dozen > or so. And then I want to refine this result-set to the last dozen or so > papers presented on this topic. This should be three clicks from me to > there. > > That's a simple case. Now let's get more complex and deal with the Semantic > Web. I'm searching for let's say things to do with Quantum Theory, and this > search might involve a whole bunch of stuff having little or nothing to do > with physics. This is all about the meaning of Meaning and that's where it > grows difficult, but this is exactly the place where I want to live. > Paradoxes, recursions, etc. That's my chosen place to live. > > A. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 18:04:22 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:04:22 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: <4E88BFDB.50003@torchlake.com> References: <4E88BFDB.50003@torchlake.com> Message-ID: The Semantic Web is the next step in WWW technology. It attempts to impart meaning into web pages. This is a complex topic, way too complex for me to summarize here. Please google Semantic Web and take it from there. It's IMO a very interesting topic and one that I am devoted to.. what is the Meaning of Meaning? That is the question, and the answers are not easy, but we try despite the challenges. This stuff is not easy. A. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Tina Norris Fields < tinanfields at torchlake.com> wrote: > Arthur, > What is Semantic Web? > T > > From hans.andersen at phulse.com Sun Oct 2 23:12:01 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:12:01 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones Message-ID: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com> You would think it would be bad enough when there is a revelation that there is a major security hole in your phones that exposes pretty much everything, including contacts, phone history, SMS messages, emails, system logs, GPS locations, and pretty much anything else that matters to any app, by simply giving it internet permissions, which all apps require these days anyhow. The only thing that could possibly make it worse is the revelation that this security hole exists as a consequence of a vulnerability in a key logger and a remote access server (VNC, similar to remote desktop) that HTC bundles with these Android phones of theirs. http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/01/massive-security-vulnerability-in-htc-android-devices-evo-3d-4g-thunderbolt-others-exposes-phone-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/ To Android users out there, just as it is generally a good idea to re-install Windows from scratch on OEM PCs, it seems it is also a good idea in terms of security to stop trusting the pre-installed Android OS you get with the phone and install your own firmware (ie. http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ ). - Hans From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 02:08:48 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 03:08:48 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones In-Reply-To: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com> References: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com> Message-ID: I just want a stupid phone, why can't any vendor provide me that? No texting / sexting / email / games / apps etc., just basic phone (call, receive). Maybe I'm the only guy in the world that wants this. I guess I'm way out of date. A. From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Oct 3 02:28:56 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:28:56 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web Message-ID: Hi Arthur I can help you. Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning means that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to Linux. But it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a method to define the context. The machine cannot make that decision for the user. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 03-10-2011 01:04 >>> .. what is the Meaning of Meaning? That is the question, and the answers are not easy, but we try despite the challenges. This stuff is not easy. A. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 02:34:34 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 03:34:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I get your point. Could be "Little Red Riding Hood" not "Linux". But that is precisely the conundrum, the meaning of "meaning". That is one tough nut to crack, and I do not pretend to have any solutions; I'm still working on it! And I thought databases were tough. This is a much more difficult problem LOL. A. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > I can help you. > > Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning means > that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. > If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to Linux. But > it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a method to define the > context. The machine cannot make that decision for the user. > > /gustav > > From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Oct 3 02:53:53 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:53:53 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones Message-ID: Hi Arthur Such phones exist here - with BIG digits on LARGE buttons - targeted not elderly but old people (and, of course, visually impaired people). Not for you. Surrender and get a Windows Phone 7. It will please your sense for concept and design and - admitted - bring some challenge for your creative thinking. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 03-10-2011 09:08 >>> I just want a stupid phone, why can't any vendor provide me that? No texting / sexting / email / games / apps etc., just basic phone (call, receive). Maybe I'm the only guy in the world that wants this. I guess I'm way out of date. A. From hans.andersen at phulse.com Mon Oct 3 03:09:23 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 01:09:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06892AAE-94B2-494F-A19A-0E1E647B82E3@phulse.com> Welcome to the realm of fuzzy logic and neural networks, where suddenly you realize just how much more powerful the human brain is compared to a computer and the only way for computers to compare is by having excellent statistical/probabilistic algorithms. Unfortunately, computers are quite poor at comprehending context, because they know nothing about human nature. My understanding of the semantic web, however, is not so much about the web understanding a context so much as the web developing a meta-layer (one not relevant to humans but more for computers), which can easily combine and associate information that computers would otherwise not know was related. A means for computers to talk to each other to build "context". Blogs do this by means of tags and such, but it is still relatively immature. Is this somewhat what you are referring to or are you implying something else - something more complex in nature? - Hans On 2011-10-03, at 12:34 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I get your point. Could be "Little Red Riding Hood" not "Linux". But that is > precisely the conundrum, the meaning of "meaning". That is one tough nut to > crack, and I do not pretend to have any solutions; I'm still working on it! > And I thought databases were tough. This is a much more difficult problem > LOL. > > A. > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > >> Hi Arthur >> >> I can help you. >> >> Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning means >> that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. >> If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to Linux. But >> it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a method to define the >> context. The machine cannot make that decision for the user. >> >> /gustav >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Oct 3 03:53:20 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:53:20 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones In-Reply-To: References: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com>, Message-ID: <4E897800.31871.BD10E11@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I've got a couple of mates who subscribe to exactly the same philosophy. Fortunately, we can buy them here. This is about the cheapest at the moment: http://www.bemobile.com.pg/handsets/huawei-g2100/ K29 is about USD13 -- Stuart On 3 Oct 2011 at 3:08, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I just want a stupid phone, why can't any vendor provide me that? No > texting / sexting / email / games / apps etc., just basic phone (call, > receive). Maybe I'm the only guy in the world that wants this. I guess > I'm way out of date. > > A. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Oct 3 03:55:17 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:55:17 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4E897875.12252.BD2D768@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> The only way it can work is if the system knows a lot more about you than you would want it to. You give up a lot of privacy in return for convenience. :-( -- Stuart On 3 Oct 2011 at 3:34, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I get your point. Could be "Little Red Riding Hood" not "Linux". But > that is precisely the conundrum, the meaning of "meaning". That is one > tough nut to crack, and I do not pretend to have any solutions; I'm > still working on it! And I thought databases were tough. This is a > much more difficult problem LOL. > > A. > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > > > Hi Arthur > > > > I can help you. > > > > Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning > > means that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. > > If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to > > Linux. But it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a > > method to define the context. The machine cannot make that decision > > for the user. > > > > /gustav > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Oct 3 04:15:58 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 11:15:58 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] The Semantic Web Message-ID: Hi Stuart Yes. The art of retrieving the "correct" adds for you at a given context requires exactly the same. That's what Apple and Google try to do ... /gustav >>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 03-10-2011 10:55 >>> The only way it can work is if the system knows a lot more about you than you would want it to. You give up a lot of privacy in return for convenience. :-( -- Stuart On 3 Oct 2011 at 3:34, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I get your point. Could be "Little Red Riding Hood" not "Linux". But > that is precisely the conundrum, the meaning of "meaning". That is one > tough nut to crack, and I do not pretend to have any solutions; I'm > still working on it! And I thought databases were tough. This is a > much more difficult problem LOL. > > A. > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > > > Hi Arthur > > > > I can help you. > > > > Regarding searching for information, for something to have a Meaning > > means that it is relevant to the context - as defined by the user. > > If a child searches for "red hat" it is probably not related to > > Linux. But it could be, thus initially the user must be granted a > > method to define the context. The machine cannot make that decision > > for the user. > > > > /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Oct 3 07:18:37 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 05:18:37 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic Message-ID: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage this. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-se rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " Thoughts? Jim From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Oct 3 07:55:39 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:55:39 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic Message-ID: But Jim, that tracking will help Amazon to contribute to "The Semantic Web". /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 03-10-2011 14:18 >>> Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage this. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-serious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " Thoughts? Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 08:06:11 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:06:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LOL Gustav! On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > But Jim, that tracking will help Amazon to contribute to "The Semantic > Web". > > /gustav > > > From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Oct 3 08:47:57 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 06:47:57 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49DB4BF5BA9A47209BB29A8CEEF9011C@creativesystemdesigns.com> ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:56 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic But Jim, that tracking will help Amazon to contribute to "The Semantic Web". /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 03-10-2011 14:18 >>> Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage this. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-se rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " Thoughts? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 09:37:41 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:37:41 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] On a more serious note Message-ID: I'm re-reading "Godel's Proof", a guide to the ignorati toward Kurt Godel's Theorem, which I thought I comprehended at age 25 or so, but then I found myself unable to walk the steps to its proof, so I'm re-reading the literature. That's what one does in one's years of retirement, I guess. Re-reading Dostoevsky and Godel and Schopenhauer and hoping that this somehow means something. Unfortunately I have neither child and hence grandchildren, but maybe somebody will benefit from these scrawlings on the wall of my cave. Chances are few, but optimism is great. Reminds me of an old joke. The optimist says, "This is the best possible world." The pessimist agrees. A. From john at winhaven.net Mon Oct 3 10:40:03 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:40:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones In-Reply-To: <4E897800.31871.BD10E11@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <09D7051F-95CE-482F-B14C-3C6A5FE40F74@phulse.com>, <4E897800.31871.BD10E11@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <016201cc81e2$b8735560$295a0020$@winhaven.net> We have them here too. They're called "Gitterbug". -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:53 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Major security hole claimed in some HTC Android phones I've got a couple of mates who subscribe to exactly the same philosophy. Fortunately, we can buy them here. This is about the cheapest at the moment: http://www.bemobile.com.pg/handsets/huawei-g2100/ K29 is about USD13 -- Stuart On 3 Oct 2011 at 3:08, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I just want a stupid phone, why can't any vendor provide me that? No > texting / sexting / email / games / apps etc., just basic phone (call, > receive). Maybe I'm the only guy in the world that wants this. I guess > I'm way out of date. > > A. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Oct 3 10:40:03 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:40:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> "If you're concerned with online privacy, I simply wouldn't use the Silk browser in its full mode. To Amazon's credit, you can opt out of Silk's cloud-enhanced mode. To quote Amazon, "You can also choose to operate Amazon Silk in basic or 'off-cloud' mode." Paranoia is great. Does anyone really think that Apple gives the same consideration with the Mac/iPhone/iPod/iPad? Since they pretty much force you to use Apple services by setting them as defaults, for almost everything, they are collecting data about everyone in a much more succinct manner. They are an inline hardware/OS/software/service and sales stack. Amazon finally joins them in that stack (although it isn't as complete as Apple's) and immediately they get smashed for it. If only Amazon had thought to form a technological cult for protection from this kind of slander (like Apple did ;o) I wonder if this article was written on a Mac. While I also don't trust any large corporation, I realize that as soon as I connect to a web site my ISP (presently AT&T) know about it. I can't think of a large corporation I trust less. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:19 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage this. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-se rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " Thoughts? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 12:00:15 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:00:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: While not disputing your mistrust of AT&T and anyone elese, I am interested in "Is there an app that can trace what my browser is doing behind the scenes?" Not that I visit sites that would be embarrassing or even criminal, just curious, and desiring not to leave footprints. Yeah big time compromise, I've been to slashdot and dba-AccessD and dba-tech, so arrest me for my alleged crimes. Mind you, I have responded to Gustav and JWC, so I am probably guilty of something, I cannot figure out what just yet, but there must be some crime for hanging out with such miscreants. Ok Ok I'll plead guilty. Oh, I almost forgot, that William Hindman, he's probably responsible for this mess. Yup yup yup, it's Hindman at the bottom of this, JWC and Gustav get a walk, Hindman not so lucky. A. From john at winhaven.net Mon Oct 3 12:06:55 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:06:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <01bc01cc81ee$da91ce90$8fb56bb0$@winhaven.net> Lol - where is the old curmudgeon these days? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 12:00 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic While not disputing your mistrust of AT&T and anyone elese, I am interested in "Is there an app that can trace what my browser is doing behind the scenes?" Not that I visit sites that would be embarrassing or even criminal, just curious, and desiring not to leave footprints. Yeah big time compromise, I've been to slashdot and dba-AccessD and dba-tech, so arrest me for my alleged crimes. Mind you, I have responded to Gustav and JWC, so I am probably guilty of something, I cannot figure out what just yet, but there must be some crime for hanging out with such miscreants. Ok Ok I'll plead guilty. Oh, I almost forgot, that William Hindman, he's probably responsible for this mess. Yup yup yup, it's Hindman at the bottom of this, JWC and Gustav get a walk, Hindman not so lucky. A. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hans.andersen at phulse.com Mon Oct 3 14:24:51 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:24:51 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: John, While it is true for any cell phone carrier to log what you do, this is no different than with your ISP, which you are using to send this email with. What makes what Amazon is doing very unusual is that the are going to be putting themselves as a man in the middle between even secure HTTPS communication, meaning that you will no longer be able to trust the security of that protocol anymore. Amazon is breaking the chain of trust that allows you to do online banking, for instance, without the fear that your banking details can be leaked. I think using this sort of proxy by default (meaning that 99% of consumers will not disable it since they don't know any better) is questionable in of itself, but it wouldn't be so bad if they only applied it to normal unsecured traffic. No other company presently does this or anything that compares. Not Microsoft nor Apple etc. The only other company that has done anything like this is Opera, with their Opera Mini browser and they got bad press for it. Best regards, Hans On 3 Oct 2011, at 08:40, "John Bartow" wrote: > "If you're concerned with online privacy, I simply wouldn't use the Silk > browser in its full mode. To Amazon's credit, you can opt out of Silk's > cloud-enhanced mode. To quote Amazon, "You can also choose to operate Amazon > Silk in basic or 'off-cloud' mode." > > Paranoia is great. Does anyone really think that Apple gives the same > consideration with the Mac/iPhone/iPod/iPad? Since they pretty much force > you to use Apple services by setting them as defaults, for almost > everything, they are collecting data about everyone in a much more succinct > manner. They are an inline hardware/OS/software/service and sales stack. > Amazon finally joins them in that stack (although it isn't as complete as > Apple's) and immediately they get smashed for it. If only Amazon had thought > to form a technological cult for protection from this kind of slander (like > Apple did ;o) I wonder if this article was written on a Mac. > > While I also don't trust any large corporation, I realize that as soon as I > connect to a web site my ISP (presently AT&T) know about it. I can't think > of a large corporation I trust less. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:19 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic > > Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. > > " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire forces you > to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of accessing the websites > directly, meaning that they can track everything you do, everything you > read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. > > This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly discourage > this. > > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser-has-se > rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " > > Thoughts? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Oct 3 14:56:58 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:56:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic In-Reply-To: References: <3E8EBC3D4DE34FAB9934D76BC767BF92@creativesystemdesigns.com> <017701cc81e2$b923b9a0$2b6b2ce0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <024d01cc8206$9c414680$d4c3d380$@winhaven.net> Hans, I'd agree that when the page switches to HTTPS that there should be, by default, be a switch over to non-cached/proxied communications on Amazon's part. Thank you, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian Andersen Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:25 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet traffic John, While it is true for any cell phone carrier to log what you do, this is no different than with your ISP, which you are using to send this email with. What makes what Amazon is doing very unusual is that the are going to be putting themselves as a man in the middle between even secure HTTPS communication, meaning that you will no longer be able to trust the security of that protocol anymore. Amazon is breaking the chain of trust that allows you to do online banking, for instance, without the fear that your banking details can be leaked. I think using this sort of proxy by default (meaning that 99% of consumers will not disable it since they don't know any better) is questionable in of itself, but it wouldn't be so bad if they only applied it to normal unsecured traffic. No other company presently does this or anything that compares. Not Microsoft nor Apple etc. The only other company that has done anything like this is Opera, with their Opera Mini browser and they got bad press for it. Best regards, Hans On 3 Oct 2011, at 08:40, "John Bartow" wrote: > "If you're concerned with online privacy, I simply wouldn't use the > Silk browser in its full mode. To Amazon's credit, you can opt out of > Silk's cloud-enhanced mode. To quote Amazon, "You can also choose to > operate Amazon Silk in basic or 'off-cloud' mode." > > Paranoia is great. Does anyone really think that Apple gives the same > consideration with the Mac/iPhone/iPod/iPad? Since they pretty much > force you to use Apple services by setting them as defaults, for > almost everything, they are collecting data about everyone in a much > more succinct manner. They are an inline hardware/OS/software/service and sales stack. > Amazon finally joins them in that stack (although it isn't as complete > as > Apple's) and immediately they get smashed for it. If only Amazon had > thought to form a technological cult for protection from this kind of > slander (like Apple did ;o) I wonder if this article was written on a Mac. > > While I also don't trust any large corporation, I realize that as soon > as I connect to a web site my ISP (presently AT&T) know about it. I > can't think of a large corporation I trust less. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Lawrence > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:19 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Amazon Kindle Fire spies on your internet > traffic > > Just received the following email so thought I would pass it along. > > " It would appear that surfing the web on the Amazon Kindle Fire > forces you to go through a proxy on their servers, instead of > accessing the websites directly, meaning that they can track > everything you do, everything you read, everything you write, including over HTTPS. > > This is really really bad. Do not buy a Kindle Fire. I highly > discourage this. > > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/amazons-kindle-fire-silk-browser- > has-se rious-security-concerns/1516?tag=content;siu-container " > > Thoughts? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Oct 5 14:13:04 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:13:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: The passing of Drew Wutka In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c701cc8392$cff14060$6fd3c120$@winhaven.net> Hello All, I have some sad news to share with you all. Long time lister and friend to many, Drew Wutka, passed away Monday. His friend, Ken, contacted me and a number of other board members to share this news with us because he knew that Drew participated on the DBA lists as he spoke of it often. A coworker walked by Drew's office he saw that he had his head on his desk and went in to check on him. The coworker found that he and no pulse. The paramedics were called and he was taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead upon arrival. Ken will keep me apprised of the situation and I will pass it on to everyone as soon as he shares any further information. My deepest condolences to all of Drew's family and friends. John Bartow, President Database Advisors, Inc. Office: 920-582-7574 Mobile: 920-410-7574 From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 15:26:30 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:26:30 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Imaginary Friends Message-ID: A guy that I have never physically met, but communicated with for about the last six years, died on Monday. He as approximately 10 years younger than I, and so why he should go first is inexplicable. His name was Drew Wutka, and he wrote lots of brilliant code, and shared it freely, and offered lessons in coding to everyone. The world is a lesser place without him. He wrote some of the coolest code I ever read in my life, and made me sick with envy. He could compress a deep idea into 10 lines of code. From john at winhaven.net Wed Oct 5 18:11:35 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:11:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Drew Wutka's Services In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01b201cc83b4$214d2e80$63e78b80$@winhaven.net> Forwarded From Ken: I spoke with Drew's mom and told her the many wonderful and kind things you guys have written about Drew.? I told her I could forward them and she was excited, so I did in fact send them to her.? ? If you have anything you can share I am certain she and Hannah, and his Dad would love it.? Her email address is: nwutka at sbcglobal.com The following is the information relating to his services: Viewing at Turrentine Jackson Morrow I-75 and ridgeview Thursday 6-7 972-562-2601 Preston Meadow Lutheran 10:30 Friday after back to church for light lunch 972-618-2233 Please feel free to contact me and share this information as you deem necessary. Kenneth Van Huss ? VanGard Systems Office (214) 801-4357 ext 335 Fax??? (214) 299-8597 Cell??? (214) 243-5659 kvanhuss at airrsystem.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Oct 5 18:21:04 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:21:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Drew Wutka memorial ideas Message-ID: <01b301cc83b5$741defe0$5c59cfa0$@winhaven.net> Hello Listers, While I agree that we should do something as a group, I also encourage you all to act on your own accord. As Ken mentioned in his email that I just sent out, his family was very happy to hear of our fond thoughts and reminiscing's of Drew. I encourage you to send emails, Facebooks postings, cards, etc. I would like to see what everyone would like to do for Drew. A couple of ideas were to send something to his service from DBA, collect for a DBA memorial fund to aid his daughter Hannah. Any other ideas? John Bartow WinHaven Consulting PO Box 130 Winneconne, WI 54986 Office: 920-582-7574 Mobile: 920-410-7574 From hans.andersen at phulse.com Wed Oct 5 20:59:49 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:59:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs: 1955-2011 Message-ID: http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/ From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Oct 6 10:05:01 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:05:01 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Imaginary Friends In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E8DC39D.6090300@torchlake.com> Even younger than that, Arthur. I believe he just had his 39th birthday. It is really hard to lose him. Thanks to Drew, I have a small understanding of the 'treeview' control. Now, I have to finish understanding that one on my own, but at least he got me started. I will miss him terribly. T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/5/2011 4:26 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > A guy that I have never physically met, but communicated with for about the > last six years, died on Monday. He as approximately 10 years younger than I, > and so why he should go first is inexplicable. His name was Drew Wutka, and > he wrote lots of brilliant code, and shared it freely, and offered lessons > in coding to everyone. The world is a lesser place without him. He wrote > some of the coolest code I ever read in my life, and made me sick with envy. > He could compress a deep idea into 10 lines of code. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From john at winhaven.net Thu Oct 6 21:08:25 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:08:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Drew Wutka's Obituary page Message-ID: <01d401cc8495$ffb642b0$ff22c810$@winhaven.net> http://www.turrentinejacksonmorrow.com/detail.php?id=6177 From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Oct 10 05:14:51 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:14:51 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] New Remote Chrome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The new Chrome browser is also capable of remotely taking over another computer. http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20117619-264/chrome-extension-enables-remo te-computer-control/ Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 10:00:39 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:00:39 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs: The Last Word Message-ID: It's only fitting that Steve himself get the last word. To preface, like the Beatles and many others, Steve wandered India for a while, where he converted to Buddhism. He also experimented with LSD, which he described as "one of the two or three most important things [he had done] in [his] life." The following is quoted from a speech he gave to Stanford University's students in 2005: "You can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something -- your gut, destiny, life, mkarma, whaever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life.... "If you live each day as if it were your last, someday you will most certainly be right. "For the past 13 years I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself if the day were the last in my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today? And when the answer has been 'No' for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something. "Remember that I would be dead soon is the most important tool I have encountered to help me make the right choices in life. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. "No one wants to die and yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that's as it should be because Death is very likely the single best invention of life. It is life's change agent. It clears up the old to make way for the new. "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma, don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you want to become. Everything else is secondary." Words to print out and hang beside our bathroom mirror. Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 08:04:23 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:04:23 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers Message-ID: There is no honour among scammers, obviously, but still, it's disappointing that they have leapt into the post-Steve-Jobs opening. See: http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-death-facebook-scam/?utm_source=Non-campaign&utm_medium=eNews-newsletter&utm_campaign=eNews-NL-20111011SplitA Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Oct 12 12:27:54 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:27:54 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Very sad indeed but not unexpected... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers There is no honour among scammers, obviously, but still, it's disappointing that they have leapt into the post-Steve-Jobs opening. See: http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-death-facebook-scam/?u tm_source=Non-campaign&utm_medium=eNews-newsletter&utm_campaign=eNews-NL-201 11011SplitA Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 12:54:14 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:54:14 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Maybe I should file a fake OBIT and see if any scammers come out of the woodwork. Noted SQL author has died, please send lots of money to xxx at yyy.com. LOL. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Very sad indeed but not unexpected... > > Jim > > From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Oct 12 13:16:43 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:16:43 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: I would bet if you did it up right there would be someone sending money. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:54 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers Maybe I should file a fake OBIT and see if any scammers come out of the woodwork. Noted SQL author has died, please send lots of money to xxx at yyy.com. LOL. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Very sad indeed but not unexpected... > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 13:22:15 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:22:15 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: LOL. I'll get to work on it right away! A. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > I would bet if you did it up right there would be someone sending money. > ;-) > > Jim > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 13:25:29 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:25:29 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Itinerant SQL guru in need of a brain transplant and a hot lover seeks donations from everyone I have ever helped on DBA... You think that will fly? Or should I dress it up with leprosy, HIV, ebola, plague etc.? A. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > LOL. I'll get to work on it right away! > > > From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 12 14:13:17 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:13:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server Message-ID: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> Our patchwork home entertainment system has a DVD player/recorder that we watch NetFlix DVDs on, and occasionally record satellite TV video with. It's fine for that, but it doubles as the system's CD player, and with that there are two problems: CD playback isn't terrific, and who wants to fiddle with single CDs any more? Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point & click when we want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB drive and HDMI could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form and deliver the material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our receiver with better quality than most CD players costing three times that much. Anybody have an idea what might be wrong with this setup? PB From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Oct 12 14:57:56 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:57:56 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Just the time involves in ripping about a thousand CDs. I can remember when we described data storage capacity in KiloBytes. Now, it seems that Megabytes is being replaced by TeraBytes as the standard unit. How long before we start referring to it in PetaBytes :-) -- Stuart On 12 Oct 2011 at 14:13, Peter Brawley wrote: > Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point & click > when we want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB > drive and HDMI could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form > and deliver the material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our > receiver with better quality than most CD players costing three times > that much. Anybody have an idea what might be wrong with this setup? > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 15:32:24 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:32:24 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: We're already there, Stu. Not that I can afford it or have need for it, but we're already there, and in the interim we have multi-GB SSDs...so the platform evolves to: 1) local HD 2) external HD with mirror enabling Instant Restore A brand-new box ought to automagically create a bare-bones bootup CD. At a user-determined point (e.g after having installed apps a1, a2, a3, etc.) IOW, I need to have a mirror of what the system looked like 10 minutes ago, in case I made a foolish decision in the past 10 minutes. This is not an unlikely result. There are so many things to get wrong that I can pretty much guarantee that Im g. You see? This software has prevented me from sending my message. Earth to Marshall McLuhan: the medium is the Forked-Up Message, On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Just the time involves in ripping about a thousand CDs. > > > I can remember when we described data storage capacity in KiloBytes. Now, > it seems that > Megabytes is being replaced by TeraBytes as the standard unit. How long > before we start > referring to it in PetaBytes :-) > > > -- > Stuart > > > On 12 Oct 2011 at 14:13, Peter Brawley wrote: > > > Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point & click > > when we want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB > > drive and HDMI could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form > > and deliver the material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our > > receiver with better quality than most CD players costing three times > > that much. Anybody have an idea what might be wrong with this setup? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 15:54:03 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:54:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: In this scenario I wonder where the digital to audio conversion happens? That is normally done IN the CD player or in a PC in the SOUND CARD. It's the main reason why people upgrade sound card hardware to get better conversion logic isn't it? If you play a song from the netbook does the sound even come out of the HDMI connection or is that intended to be primarily the VIDEO feed. I know that HDMI can supply both audio and video and does in the typical home theater scenario such as between the cable box and the receiver and the DVD player and the receiver and from the receiver or the DVD player directly to the TV. But I wonder if the sound in the netbook comes out of the headphone jack and not the HDMI? I'd test it before you go to far. And it will take a fair bit of time to rip your CD's. I did about 400 or so a couple years back and it took me a few weeks of doing it on a regular PC with two drives flip flopping back and forth. I didn't bother with lossless though. I don't hear all THAT well. And actually I still play the actual CD's for the most part instead of listening to the ripped ones on the PC. I do listen to those on other PC's in the house and on my portable music players. GK. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > Our patchwork home entertainment system has a DVD player/recorder that we > watch NetFlix DVDs on, and occasionally record satellite TV video with. It's > fine for that, but it doubles as the system's CD player, and with that there > are two problems: CD playback isn't terrific, and who wants to fiddle with > single CDs any more? > > Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point & click when we > want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB drive and HDMI > could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form and deliver the > material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our receiver with better > quality than most CD players costing three times that much. Anybody have an > idea what might be wrong with this setup? > > PB > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 12 17:09:48 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:09:48 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E96102C.50606@earthlink.net> On 10/12/2011 3:54 PM, Gary Kjos wrote: > In this scenario I wonder where the digital to audio conversion > happens? That is normally done IN the CD player or in a PC in the > SOUND CARD. It's the main reason why people upgrade sound card > hardware to get better conversion logic isn't it? If you play a song > from the netbook does the sound even come out of the HDMI connection > or is that intended to be primarily the VIDEO feed. I know that HDMI > can supply both audio and video and does in the typical home theater > scenario such as between the cable box and the receiver and the DVD > player and the receiver and from the receiver or the DVD player > directly to the TV. But I wonder if the sound in the netbook comes out > of the headphone jack and not the HDMI? Analogue sound converted by the sound card comes out the headphone jack, 0s and 1s come out the HDMI jack and the receiver converts, no? > > I'd test it before you go to far. Excellent advice, but to test it I need to buy a netbook with an HDMI interface :-) , so I guess I need to ask if anyone has walked down this path. > > And it will take a fair bit of time to rip your CD's. I rip 'em anyway for the mp3 player, very little babysitting required, MediaMonkey does a terrific job, might as well do it twice, once to mp3, once to flac. PB ----- > I did about 400 > or so a couple years back and it took me a few weeks of doing it on a > regular PC with two drives flip flopping back and forth. I didn't > bother with lossless though. I don't hear all THAT well. And actually > I still play the actual CD's for the most part instead of listening to > the ripped ones on the PC. I do listen to those on other PC's in the > house and on my portable music players. > > GK. > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Peter Brawley > wrote: >> Our patchwork home entertainment system has a DVD player/recorder that we >> watch NetFlix DVDs on, and occasionally record satellite TV video with. It's >> fine for that, but it doubles as the system's CD player, and with that there >> are two problems: CD playback isn't terrific, and who wants to fiddle with >> single CDs any more? >> >> Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point& click when we >> want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB drive and HDMI >> could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form and deliver the >> material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our receiver with better >> quality than most CD players costing three times that much. Anybody have an >> idea what might be wrong with this setup? >> >> PB >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 12 17:12:28 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:12:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4E9610CC.80303@earthlink.net> On 10/12/2011 2:57 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Just the time involves in ripping about a thousand CDs. > > > I can remember when we described data storage capacity in KiloBytes. First computer I worked on was an IBM 1710, 64k of memory and filled a large room. PB ----- > Now, it seems that > Megabytes is being replaced by TeraBytes as the standard unit. How long before we start > referring to it in PetaBytes :-) > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 17:29:41 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:29:41 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E96102C.50606@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E96102C.50606@earthlink.net> Message-ID: A tad off topic, but recently I have discovered a wonderful free progam that captures all the info relevant to any given CD. Since it's free, I have no commercial interest in this venture. I just want to commend this person for his excellent efforts. Seldom have I seen such a pretty piece of software. It takes about 30 seconds to learn its interface and it does something very beautiful with your data. www.antp.be/software/moviecatalog/ However, this software only works for dvd/movies. Granted that I am a dinosaur, and still thrill to the feel of pages, I'm searching for the equivalent cataloger for my books. It needs to work just like the software cited above, but uses Books as its source. I cannot recommend this software enough without weeping. If you have, as I do, several hundred instances of DVDs, and wish to catalog them, this software is your baby. This software does a magnificent job, and lest you suspect that I am in for some commercial piece, the software is free, so how could I possibly benefit from an endorsement? Grab this software, and if there's an opportunity, tell him that I suggested that you visit. This stuff is good, and also free. A. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > On 10/12/2011 3:54 PM, Gary Kjos wrote: > >> In this scenario I wonder where the digital to audio conversion >> happens? That is normally done IN the CD player or in a PC in the >> SOUND CARD. It's the main reason why people upgrade sound card >> hardware to get better conversion logic isn't it? If you play a song >> from the netbook does the sound even come out of the HDMI connection >> or is that intended to be primarily the VIDEO feed. I know that HDMI >> can supply both audio and video and does in the typical home theater >> scenario such as between the cable box and the receiver and the DVD >> player and the receiver and from the receiver or the DVD player >> directly to the TV. But I wonder if the sound in the netbook comes out >> of the headphone jack and not the HDMI? >> > Analogue sound converted by the sound card comes out the headphone jack, 0s > and 1s come out the HDMI jack and the receiver converts, no? > > >> I'd test it before you go to far. >> > Excellent advice, but to test it I need to buy a netbook with an HDMI > interface :-) , so I guess I need to ask if anyone has walked down this > path. > > >> And it will take a fair bit of time to rip your CD's. >> > I rip 'em anyway for the mp3 player, very little babysitting required, > MediaMonkey does a terrific job, might as well do it twice, once to mp3, > once to flac. > > PB > > ----- > >> I did about 400 >> or so a couple years back and it took me a few weeks of doing it on a >> regular PC with two drives flip flopping back and forth. I didn't >> bother with lossless though. I don't hear all THAT well. And actually >> I still play the actual CD's for the most part instead of listening to >> the ripped ones on the PC. I do listen to those on other PC's in the >> house and on my portable music players. >> >> GK. >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Peter Brawley >> wrote: >> >>> Our patchwork home entertainment system has a DVD player/recorder that we >>> watch NetFlix DVDs on, and occasionally record satellite TV video with. >>> It's >>> fine for that, but it doubles as the system's CD player, and with that >>> there >>> are two problems: CD playback isn't terrific, and who wants to fiddle >>> with >>> single CDs any more? >>> >>> Why not just rip CDs to FLACs onto a music server, and point& click when >>> we >>> >>> want to hear 'em? Seems to me a wee $300 NetBook with a .25TB drive and >>> HDMI >>> could hold about a thousand CDs in lossless FLAC form and deliver the >>> material digitally straight to the HDMI input in our receiver with better >>> quality than most CD players costing three times that much. Anybody have >>> an >>> idea what might be wrong with this setup? >>> >>> PB >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com > From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Oct 12 17:33:52 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:33:52 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers In-Reply-To: References: <9034E9D97E674A6DA80C5FF78BA7AD8C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <2A3FD50563854BCDB4FCD482B8451BF9@creativesystemdesigns.com> The new brain transplant is not what you need; you could end up with a brain from Abe Normal. You should have been more careful when you picked your parents. I think it would be a good idea to leave out the plague part. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:25 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Steve Jobs scammers Itinerant SQL guru in need of a brain transplant and a hot lover seeks donations from everyone I have ever helped on DBA... You think that will fly? Or should I dress it up with leprosy, HIV, ebola, plague etc.? A. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > LOL. I'll get to work on it right away! > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 00:56:44 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:56:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Blackberry outage Message-ID: I can't prove it but I suspect that there is a plot afoot, and thereby drive the stock down, and thence scoop the shares cheaply. My bet is to buy RIM shares now, before the dumpster-divers close in. I hate those further-morkers, and I wish there were a flat-rate tax system that would tax them the same percentage as working-class people. But I digress. Some serious players are out to undermine RIM, and to drive its stock down in preparation for a takeover. There is some ugly business afoot here. This is corporate warfare rearing its ugly head. It's not the first time it's happened, but this one might be its most visible example. This is how it works: a) hire some programmers to reverse-engineer the software. b) plant a seed and wait for it to grow into a massive weed. c) launch your own marketing plan offering something immune to said weed. That is what is happening to RIM currently, IMO. RIM's big thing has been its security, so how better to attack the company than to attack its security? Once that pillar has been dislodged, there is no company. And that is precisely what is occurring at present. I can't point fingers at specific companies, primarily because they are well-cloaked, but you can follow the cookie-trails and figure out which companies stand to profit most from RIM's downfall, or acquisition, or both. Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Oct 13 10:30:52 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:30:52 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is moving ahead In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58BC130D17B54BA1AE59BE7CF69BC3D9@creativesystemdesigns.com> After a much speculation, Microsoft has announced they are officially moving into the Map Reduced world of NOSQL. It seems that Hadoop, from Apache, will be fully integrated into MS SQL 2012 and Azure. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/12/microsoft_hadoop_integration_sql_ser ver/ This is great news. (John you are so lucky! ;-)) Jim From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Oct 13 17:15:55 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:15:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Blackberry outage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E97631B.7040707@torchlake.com> Hmmmm. Maybe we should be buying RIM stock. T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/13/2011 1:56 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I can't prove it but I suspect that there is a plot afoot, and thereby drive > the stock down, and thence scoop the shares cheaply. My bet is to buy RIM > shares now, before the dumpster-divers close in. I hate those > further-morkers, and I wish there were a flat-rate tax system that would tax > them the same percentage as working-class people. But I digress. > > Some serious players are out to undermine RIM, and to drive its stock down > in preparation for a takeover. There is some ugly business afoot here. This > is corporate warfare rearing its ugly head. It's not the first time it's > happened, but this one might be its most visible example. > > This is how it works: > > a) hire some programmers to reverse-engineer the software. > b) plant a seed and wait for it to grow into a massive weed. > c) launch your own marketing plan offering something immune to said weed. > > That is what is happening to RIM currently, IMO. RIM's big thing has been > its security, so how better to attack the company than to attack its > security? Once that pillar has been dislodged, there is no company. And that > is precisely what is occurring at present. I can't point fingers at specific > companies, primarily because they are well-cloaked, but you can follow the > cookie-trails and figure out which companies stand to profit most from RIM's > downfall, or acquisition, or both. > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Oct 13 18:12:29 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:12:29 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox has released it new Beta version called Aurora In-Reply-To: <58BC130D17B54BA1AE59BE7CF69BC3D9@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <58BC130D17B54BA1AE59BE7CF69BC3D9@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Firefox has released it new Beta version called Aurora or in 12 weeks when it is released as FF 8. It definitely is a lot faster, a bit cleaner, has better plug controls, uses less memory and has a host of features for all you web programmers. It also runs on virtually every OS. It supports HTML 5 and all the related features. Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Oct 14 03:40:57 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:40:57 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Blackberry outage In-Reply-To: <4E97631B.7040707@torchlake.com> References: <4E97631B.7040707@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Now is the time, my love. Takeover rumours abund, so this could be the perfect storm. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Tina Norris Fields < tinanfields at torchlake.com> wrote: > Hmmmm. Maybe we should be buying RIM stock. > T > > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Oct 18 12:25:09 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:25:09 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem Message-ID: Dear List: I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. No more. Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to Rename. MTIA Rocky From hkotsch at arcor.de Tue Oct 18 12:31:28 2011 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:31:28 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How good is the battery? Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky Smolin Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011 19:25 An: List Betreff: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem Dear List: I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. No more. Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to Rename. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Oct 18 12:47:32 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:47:32 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Full - no problem. Keyboard works fine. Just does the wrong thing (well a different thing than it used to) when I press F2 or F3. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem How good is the battery? Helmut -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky Smolin Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011 19:25 An: List Betreff: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem Dear List: I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. No more. Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to Rename. MTIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 13:12:54 2011 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:12:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: CTRL-SHIFT is supposed to reset keyboard shortcuts to Normal http://www.sevenforums.com/customization/93593-keyboard-acting-weird.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449 GK On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List: > > I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. ?But > recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be > Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. ?F3 used to be Find Again. ?No > more. > > Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old > settings. ?In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to > Rename. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From jason at purplecone.com Tue Oct 18 13:17:37 2011 From: jason at purplecone.com (Jason Strickland) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:17:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do have the F lock key pressed. My button is on upper right hand corner and if the light is not on, then different things happen when I press the F keysm On 10/18/11, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Full - no problem. Keyboard works fine. Just does the wrong thing (well a > different thing than it used to) when I press F2 or F3. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:31 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem > > How good is the battery? > > Helmut > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky Smolin > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011 19:25 > An: List > Betreff: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem > > > Dear List: > > I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But > recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be > Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. No > more. > > Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my old > settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to set F2 to > Rename. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- "One reason a dog has so many friends: he wags his tail instead of his tongue." From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Oct 18 13:34:02 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:34:02 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <555EBDFEE7CC41EFB794F353166AFE22@HAL9007> No joy there. :( But the second link does show that F2 should be rename. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:13 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem CTRL-SHIFT is supposed to reset keyboard shortcuts to Normal http://www.sevenforums.com/customization/93593-keyboard-acting-weird.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449 GK On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List: > > I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. ?But > recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be > Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. ?F3 used to be Find Again. ? > No more. > > Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my > old settings. ?In the device configuration I don't even see a way to > set F2 to Rename. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Oct 18 13:37:18 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:37:18 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69AB3DDCC789473F9B1E270ABD285645@HAL9007> Jason: F-lock - that was it!! It was off - should be on. Must have hit it by accident a few days ago. Thanks so much Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jason Strickland Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:18 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem Do have the F lock key pressed. My button is on upper right hand corner and if the light is not on, then different things happen when I press the F keysm On 10/18/11, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Full - no problem. Keyboard works fine. Just does the wrong thing > (well a different thing than it used to) when I press F2 or F3. > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut > Kotsch > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:31 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem > > How good is the battery? > > Helmut > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Rocky > Smolin > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011 19:25 > An: List > Betreff: [dba-Tech] Keyboard problem > > > Dear List: > > I have a Microsoft wireless keyboard which has been working fine. But > recently something changed with the function keys. Like F2 used to be > Rename, now suddenly it's changed to Undo. F3 used to be Find Again. > No more. > > Does anyone have any idea why this happened or how to get back to my > old settings. In the device configuration I don't even see a way to > set F2 to Rename. > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- "One reason a dog has so many friends: he wags his tail instead of his tongue." _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 19 17:28:14 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:28:14 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> Last week I asked, why not sell our CD player, use MediaMonkey or dbPowerAmp to rip our CDs to lossless FLACs onto a $300 netbook with a .25TB HD, connect the netbook to the HDMI port of our AV receiver, and play all audio digitally from the netbook. Turns out that can't work. HDMI carries video, sometimes with audio too, but not audio alone. Sending digital audio from a 'puter directly into an AV receiver requires a digital output (toslink) from the the 'puter into the AV receiver's digital coaxial or optical audio input jacks. It's the rare laptop or netbook that has a toslink jack, so you need a USB dongle with that connection. But USB adds jitter, which doesn't sound good. Dead end. Enter Logitech's SqueezeBox Touch , which is getting rave reviews for losslessly streaming digital audio (mp3, wav, flac &c &c) from any wired or wifi network source straight into an AV receiver, at a purchase price of $230. Better still, there's an Android tablet user interface app. Looks like we'll go that way. PB From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Oct 19 18:57:49 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:57:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server In-Reply-To: <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7B9855BD7EEB44529992CAE34D137E26@creativesystemdesigns.com> Who would have guessed that there had to be both video and audio for the hdmi to work. It sounds like software problems > drivers; to me. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:28 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server Last week I asked, why not sell our CD player, use MediaMonkey or dbPowerAmp to rip our CDs to lossless FLACs onto a $300 netbook with a .25TB HD, connect the netbook to the HDMI port of our AV receiver, and play all audio digitally from the netbook. Turns out that can't work. HDMI carries video, sometimes with audio too, but not audio alone. Sending digital audio from a 'puter directly into an AV receiver requires a digital output (toslink) from the the 'puter into the AV receiver's digital coaxial or optical audio input jacks. It's the rare laptop or netbook that has a toslink jack, so you need a USB dongle with that connection. But USB adds jitter, which doesn't sound good. Dead end. Enter Logitech's SqueezeBox Touch , which is getting rave reviews for losslessly streaming digital audio (mp3, wav, flac &c &c) from any wired or wifi network source straight into an AV receiver, at a purchase price of $230. Better still, there's an Android tablet user interface app. Looks like we'll go that way. PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Oct 20 10:57:52 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:57:52 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] The battle ground In-Reply-To: <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3C2C5F69A57F457B958D1C28FABBF894@creativesystemdesigns.com> >From the early 80s to the late 90s Microsoft was the driving force of the computer PC world. You are not there until your CEO is demonized by many. ;-) Microsoft was definitely the power to beat or at least work with. As Microsoft was the King of desktops but relevance of the desktops was slowly disappearing...is it the end of the PC world? It will not just the end of the PC world but also the end of the big servers and their big software. Microsoft has long had a presence in that market but the real King of that software world has been Oracle and its servers have been Sun and HP and IBM. These server companies have been on a buying spree so to position themselves just to survive the next computer world shift. Oracle bought up Sun and its Open Source MySQL (which has seriously hurt the creditability of MySQL), IBM has been moving its markets into more nitch product lines and HP appears to currently be on the ropes. What is replacing all these areas of the computer world? Two major shifts; web based applications and the Open Source databases. 1. All the newer applications have been moving to the web, this is a world where the PC holds little relevance. The browser is becoming all-important and with the arrival of free and Open Source browsers, the price of entry is also free. Proprietary software has not been surviving as the Open Standards model has been pushing these products aside. 2. Open Source database products. The server market has long been dominated with big hardware and the software that supports it; mostly Oracle. The costs to get into this market has been astronomically expensive. Enter server capable OS DB like Postgres, new versions of MySQL and the whole NoSQL group of products. The NoSQL products have replaced the big servers in two ways; one they are Open Source and free, two; they can run on inexpensive hardware as they are fully distributive. The link following this preamble describes the players in this new world. There is hardly a mention of the old PC desktops and big Servers. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/160/tech-wars-2012-amazon-apple-google-f acebook Jim From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Thu Oct 20 14:08:04 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:08:04 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] The battle ground In-Reply-To: <3C2C5F69A57F457B958D1C28FABBF894@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> <3C2C5F69A57F457B958D1C28FABBF894@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4EA07194.6040300@earthlink.net> On 10/20/2011 10:57 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > From the early 80s to the late 90s Microsoft was the driving force of the > computer PC world. You are not there until your CEO is demonized by many. > ;-) > > Microsoft was definitely the power to beat or at least work with. As > Microsoft was the King of desktops but relevance of the desktops was slowly > disappearing...is it the end of the PC world? > > It will not just the end of the PC world but also the end of the big servers > and their big software. Microsoft has long had a presence in that market but > the real King of that software world has been Oracle and its servers have > been Sun and HP and IBM. > > These server companies have been on a buying spree so to position themselves > just to survive the next computer world shift. Oracle bought up Sun and its > Open Source MySQL (which has seriously hurt the creditability of MySQL), If the credibility of MySQL depends not just on the quality of the product, which Oracle has improved, but also depends on the database community's confidence in Oracle's stewardship, yes. Two straws in the wind: Oracle discontinued the cheapest MySQL Enterprise licences, and has allowed several MySQL fora to be overrun by spam, to the point of unusability for weeks on end, without effective remediation. PB ----- > IBM > has been moving its markets into more nitch product lines and HP appears to > currently be on the ropes. > > What is replacing all these areas of the computer world? Two major shifts; > web based applications and the Open Source databases. > > 1. All the newer applications have been moving to the web, this is a world > where the PC holds little relevance. The browser is becoming all-important > and with the arrival of free and Open Source browsers, the price of entry is > also free. Proprietary software has not been surviving as the Open Standards > model has been pushing these products aside. > > 2. Open Source database products. The server market has long been dominated > with big hardware and the software that supports it; mostly Oracle. The > costs to get into this market has been astronomically expensive. Enter > server capable OS DB like Postgres, new versions of MySQL and the whole > NoSQL group of products. The NoSQL products have replaced the big servers in > two ways; one they are Open Source and free, two; they can run on > inexpensive hardware as they are fully distributive. > > The link following this preamble describes the players in this new world. > There is hardly a mention of the old PC desktops and big Servers. > > http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/160/tech-wars-2012-amazon-apple-google-f > acebook > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Fri Oct 21 19:54:36 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:54:36 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? Message-ID: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Oct 21 22:03:23 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:03:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true Ubuntu server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Fri Oct 21 22:44:12 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:44:12 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. P. On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does > she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU > cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would > recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true Ubuntu > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any > Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and > test to see which OS gives the best results. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, mostly > the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? > > PB > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 01:12:48 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:12:48 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> Message-ID: What is Winders? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. P. On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does > she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU > cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would > recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true Ubuntu > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any > Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and > test to see which OS gives the best results. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, mostly > the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? > > PB > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Oct 22 04:03:05 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:03:05 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net>, <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net>, Message-ID: <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Micreserfts OS On 21 Oct 2011 at 23:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: > What is Winders? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current > desktops? > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > P. > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and > > does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of > > motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most > > expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so > > far the best and most reliable. > > > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > Ubuntu > > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as > > any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and > > Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current > > desktops? > > > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, > > mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any > > suggestions? > > > > PB > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 07:23:40 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:23:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4D907EB9276248B8B276F95BBAD0884E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Ahh, thanks Stuart, the dialect threw me. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:03 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? Micreserfts OS On 21 Oct 2011 at 23:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: > What is Winders? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current > desktops? > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > P. > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and > > does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of > > motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most > > expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so > > far the best and most reliable. > > > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > Ubuntu > > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as > > any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and > > Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current > > desktops? > > > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, > > mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any > > suggestions? > > > > PB > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sat Oct 22 08:34:47 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:34:47 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> The way they say "Windows" down heah :-) . PB On 10/22/2011 1:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > What is Winders? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > P. > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does >> she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU >> cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would >> recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. >> >> I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > Ubuntu >> server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any >> Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. >> >> If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and >> test to see which OS gives the best results. >> >> Jim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley >> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? >> >> My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, mostly >> the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? >> >> PB >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 10:52:46 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:52:46 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2C78AF2E3F7348DD90A374EA82BEBFD7@creativesystemdesigns.com> Ha ha... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:35 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? The way they say "Windows" down heah :-) . PB On 10/22/2011 1:12 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > What is Winders? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > P. > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and does >> she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of motherboard CPU >> cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most expensive CPU) and I would >> recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so far the best and most reliable. >> >> I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > Ubuntu >> server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as any >> Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. >> >> If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and Linux and >> test to see which OS gives the best results. >> >> Jim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley >> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? >> >> My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, mostly >> the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? >> >> PB >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From df.waters at comcast.net Sat Oct 22 10:54:59 2011 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:54:59 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001c01cc90d2$f42b44b0$dc81ce10$@comcast.net> CPU - Intel i7 2600K (The K model let you tweak the CPU quite a bit) MB - GA-Z68XP-UD3 (Supports 6.0 Gb/s) Ram - Corsair XMS 8 Gb Cooler - XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283 SSD - m4 CT0128M4SSD2 128GB SATA 6.0Gb/s (use this for the OS and for apps) HD - WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" WD1002FAEX - OEM (Use this for data storage) Above costs roughly $800 Video Card - High End Be sure that all your components support SATA III (6 Gb/s). This is a good write-up on how to set up a combination of SSD and HD: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/windows-7-and-ssds-just-how-fast-are-they/290 2?tag=content;siu-container Good Luck! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:55 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 11:50:35 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:50:35 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 22 12:14:37 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:14:37 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Oct 22 13:41:45 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:41:45 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <001c01cc90d2$f42b44b0$dc81ce10$@comcast.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <001c01cc90d2$f42b44b0$dc81ce10$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <24786F7AFBCF4D5ABF9DD89909A1A4D5@HAL9007> My son built a computer over the summer - we had a great time shopping, assembling, debugging, loading software, configuring, debugging, etc., etc. Great fun. I also got a new comp over the summer. However, I did what I always do - go to the Dell site, configure my box, order up and a few days later they brought it to me. I fired it up, loaded my stuff and off I went. The two boxes were very similar in size, shape, speed, capacity, and price. If you're interested in just using a computer and don't get any goodies from fooling around with it, Plan B is my recommendation. Or any other off the shelf out of the box, comp - Staples, Office Depot, Costco, Sam. It's an appliance. I wouldn't build my own dishwasher, either. .02 Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:55 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 14:05:12 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:05:12 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: The last time I used the product was in the 90s and it was called PageMaker. It was not until a couple of months ago that InDesign was brought to my attention. I saw a friend build a book in about week (He is a professional) with graphics, writing and had it published later that week...a project like this would normally take a team a month. My daughters convinced me to look into the product for completing a book project I am currently working on and to say I am impressed is an under-statement. I am using InDesign CS5.5. (I also bought PhotoShop CS5.5) I must admit I downloaded torrents of the products, first, while I was considering whether to invest a fair chunk of cash and time. It did not take long until I realized it would be worth every penny and could, eventually expand into another revenue stream. It can now assemble virtually any graphic, text, animation and sound oject and export it all as a unified application. Much of it technology comes from Adobe's stable of products, like Illustartor, flash, Photshop and Dreamweaaver. Here is a few tidbit tutorials that will give you a feel for its new capabilities: http://tv.adobe.com/show/learn-indesign-cs5 If this does not impress you I will send along some XML data acquisition and display tutorials which can demonstart how the product can be extended all the way to a report writer and webbased data presentation manager. Interesting aside: Adobe and Autodesk have an almost complete strangle hold on every significant graphic and animation product. Without buying their products there would be no books, newspapers, advertisements or special effects or even animated movies... (Pixar, Disney and George Lucus and so on...)...they own it all. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 22 14:18:08 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:18:08 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net> <0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <005d01cc90ef$55105920$ff310b60$@winhaven.net> CS 5.5 - Thanks. I'll eventually upgrade but I have the design Suite so it isn't cheap (understatement). I was going to wait for CS 6 since I think they'll have some of the newer features bugged out by then. I really like some of the new features of Photoshop CS 5.5! When I do upgrade I'll have to remember to ask you for those samples :o) BTW PageMaker and InDesign are two completely different products. PageMaker was continued with at least major version and a few minor ones after InDesign was released. InDesign was a product that was built from the ground up to incorporate various data types into one "document". It also added some of the basic functions needed to edit and create various data types itself (such as bitmap and vector images). But the full blown product is generally needed to do what professionals need to do. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:05 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign The last time I used the product was in the 90s and it was called PageMaker. It was not until a couple of months ago that InDesign was brought to my attention. I saw a friend build a book in about week (He is a professional) with graphics, writing and had it published later that week...a project like this would normally take a team a month. My daughters convinced me to look into the product for completing a book project I am currently working on and to say I am impressed is an under-statement. I am using InDesign CS5.5. (I also bought PhotoShop CS5.5) I must admit I downloaded torrents of the products, first, while I was considering whether to invest a fair chunk of cash and time. It did not take long until I realized it would be worth every penny and could, eventually expand into another revenue stream. It can now assemble virtually any graphic, text, animation and sound oject and export it all as a unified application. Much of it technology comes from Adobe's stable of products, like Illustartor, flash, Photshop and Dreamweaaver. Here is a few tidbit tutorials that will give you a feel for its new capabilities: http://tv.adobe.com/show/learn-indesign-cs5 If this does not impress you I will send along some XML data acquisition and display tutorials which can demonstart how the product can be extended all the way to a report writer and webbased data presentation manager. Interesting aside: Adobe and Autodesk have an almost complete strangle hold on every significant graphic and animation product. Without buying their products there would be no books, newspapers, advertisements or special effects or even animated movies... (Pixar, Disney and George Lucus and so on...)...they own it all. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Oct 22 14:41:56 2011 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:41:56 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net><0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: I've got Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Premium and Adobe Premier Elements 4 - both from Max - student version. What have I got? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 22 15:14:52 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:14:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <156D002B813A4F6AB951C95ED369A1CE@creativesystemdesigns.com> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA2C677.2090407@earthlink.net><0694922873CD4819B21E599C330C94FC@creativesystemdesigns.com> <001601cc90de$142ec290$3c8c47b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <008201cc90f7$41db6180$c5922480$@winhaven.net> Uhm, about $1500 or more worth of very capable software. And if you want to use it - a lot of learning to do ;o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:42 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign I've got Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Premium and Adobe Premier Elements 4 - both from Max - student version. What have I got? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] inDesign Are you sure you mean InDesign? I've been using it for a decade. I haven't upgraded for a while. It was originally designed to replace PageMaker (which was technically pretty ugly) and was supposed to be the "Quark killer". I think it's done both pretty well. Most of the print shops I'm familiar with have relegated Quark to a secondary position now. Which version are you using? I love do page layout in InDesign compared to other desktop publishing programs but other than that, my CS2 version won't do any of the things you mention very well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] inDesign I have started to learn a new product called inDesign from Adobe. To start with, the package is not cheap ($1,200) but it is a very interesting product. Its origins were from PageMaker but after that, all similarities end. What it allows you to do is to build documents in the form of reports, books and eBooks, website from a single product. It can use data from any standard database (i.e. Access, MS SQL, Word, Excel etc), XML file, virtually every graphics standard (i.e. PSD, png, jpg, tiff, ai, PDF, gif etc), animation (i.e. mov, avi, fla, swf etc), Sound file (MP3, WMV etc) and of course text from virtually any source. When a document is completed it can be exported in many formats, custom database reports, content ready for print books, magazines, leaflets etc, fully animated eBooks that ready for sale on any platform, iPad, Kendal, Smartphone (like iPhone and Android) and websites. It can build all the navigation tools, generates web sites that will actually reformate them-selves to any realistate size and it generates that code in HTML5 and CSS3, to handle the extensive graphics and imbedded object (no imbedded flash unless desired or sound etc) so it is full-compatible with any modern browser. The animation that it can apply to the site is similar to everything you could do with JQuery and I believe it is actually using the same. A document does not have to be initialized for any purpose...it is when you export it you can decide on its size or whether it will be for a brochure, a book, or eBook or website etc. and you can just export and select as many times as you like changing what ever formats and parameters all the while the original document remains unchanged. The product does not replace an application like Visual Studio or a database product or replace hand coding for a web site but it can create an extremely complex graphical presentation that would take a long time by hand, look very professional with (I wouldn't say little effort but...) less effort. Like any major products it is not a simple process to master, (a lifetime comes to mind) but it can be a complimentary income source as graphics sells more products that excellent coding. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 22 15:29:14 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:29:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <24786F7AFBCF4D5ABF9DD89909A1A4D5@HAL9007> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <001c01cc90d2$f42b44b0$dc81ce10$@comcast.net> <24786F7AFBCF4D5ABF9DD89909A1A4D5@HAL9007> Message-ID: Yeah, but is always nice to build your own...what do you do in the long evening when you would otherwise just be wasting your time sleeping? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:42 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My son built a computer over the summer - we had a great time shopping, assembling, debugging, loading software, configuring, debugging, etc., etc. Great fun. I also got a new comp over the summer. However, I did what I always do - go to the Dell site, configure my box, order up and a few days later they brought it to me. I fired it up, loaded my stuff and off I went. The two boxes were very similar in size, shape, speed, capacity, and price. If you're interested in just using a computer and don't get any goodies from fooling around with it, Plan B is my recommendation. Or any other off the shelf out of the box, comp - Staples, Office Depot, Costco, Sam. It's an appliance. I wouldn't build my own dishwasher, either. .02 Rocky -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:55 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM & Windows, mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any suggestions? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Oct 26 13:05:41 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:05:41 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server: followup In-Reply-To: <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4EA84BF5.3000804@earthlink.net> We bought a SqueezeBox Touch for $230. Installation is dead simple: plug it in, attach a cat5 wire (it does wifi but why cut speed & reliability in half?), plug its optical output into the receiver's aux optical in plug (the 2m cable is $25), download the server software (OS, written in Perl) from mysqleezebox.com, install it on a box that's on all the time, tell it where the music folders are, and bingo, we have point&click access to all our networked music plus hundreds of classical fm stations round the world (including Radio Beijing, which on the first evening's evidence likes to play Bach & Mozart piano pieces). The big advantages of hearing music ripped to FLACs through this setup are convenience & of course sound, which with SqueezeBox digital output is superbly clear & detailed. I might be able to match that with a $1K CD player, but ripping to the network with MediaMonkey is dead simple, I sit at a computer 8h a day anyway, and CD cabinets can be moved from the living room to a back room. The best things in life aren't always free but they're often cheap. PB From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 13:08:59 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:08:59 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] netbook as a home music server: followup In-Reply-To: <4EA84BF5.3000804@earthlink.net> References: <4E95E6CD.60709@earthlink.net> <4E95F144.15588.323A054@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <4E9F4EFE.6040204@earthlink.net> <4EA84BF5.3000804@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sounds like a great setup, and Iike the idea of moving the CD cabinet into storage. A. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > We bought a SqueezeBox Touch for $230. Installation is dead simple: plug it > in, attach a cat5 wire (it does wifi but why cut speed & reliability in > half?), plug its optical output into the receiver's aux optical in plug (the > 2m cable is $25), download the server software (OS, written in Perl) from > mysqleezebox.com, install it on a box that's on all the time, tell it > where the music folders are, and bingo, we have point&click access to all > our networked music plus hundreds of classical fm stations round the world > (including Radio Beijing, which on the first evening's evidence likes to > play Bach & Mozart piano pieces). > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 16:01:31 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:01:31 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Inside Windows Message-ID: I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 using the "run in Windows" option and the installation went well, but I'm not sure how to use it. No desktop icon was installed; a look in All Programs doesn't show anything related to Ubuntu, and a browse of the directory doesn't give me any indication of what to do. Curiously, though, a look in Control Panel | Remove a Program shows it listed there. Any idea what's going on, and what I should do to run it inside Windows? (Besides VM, obviously. This install option allegedly doesn't need a VM.) If necessary, I'll re-install it as a VM inside VirtualBox. TIA, Arthur From hans.andersen at phulse.com Wed Oct 26 19:14:24 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:14:24 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Inside Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Arthur, I haven't ever tried this, since I haven't been using Windows for a desktop since 2005, but I think what you are referring to is Wubi, which actually installs Ubuntu on your system in a file on your Windows partition, but, to my knowledge, you still need to reboot in order to boot into Ubuntu. I don't think it actually runs Ubuntu at the same time as Windows, like how a virtual machine works. It's still a dual-boot thing. I could be wrong though. I do know of some other distros that allow you to run Linux natively on Windows while it is running, much like a virtual machine, but its obviously faster. Have a look at coLinux . I think you might even be able to run Ubuntu itself under coLinux, but might require a bit of configuration. Even cooler, there is another distro that allows the same thing, but instead of having a separate environment running through a window, it will actually just integrate Linux apps into your Windows environment, so it feels transparent. It's called andLinux . Of course, these are fringe projects, so mileage may vary. * Hans-Christian Andersen **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com * * On 26 October 2011 14:01, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 using the "run in Windows" option and the > installation went well, but I'm not sure how to use it. No desktop icon was > installed; a look in All Programs doesn't show anything related to Ubuntu, > and a browse of the directory doesn't give me any indication of what to do. > Curiously, though, a look in Control Panel | Remove a Program shows it > listed there. > > Any idea what's going on, and what I should do to run it inside Windows? > (Besides VM, obviously. This install option allegedly doesn't need a VM.) > If > necessary, I'll re-install it as a VM inside VirtualBox. > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hans.andersen at phulse.com Wed Oct 26 19:20:06 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:20:06 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: I actually spotted a copy of Windows 97 once upon a time when travelling through asia. * Hans-Christian Andersen **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com * * On 22 October 2011 02:03, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > Micreserfts OS > > On 21 Oct 2011 at 23:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > What is Winders? > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current > > desktops? > > > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > > > P. > > > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and > > > does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of > > > motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most > > > expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so > > > far the best and most reliable. > > > > > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > > Ubuntu > > > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as > > > any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > > > > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and > > > Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current > > > desktops? > > > > > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, > > > mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any > > > suggestions? > > > > > > PB > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hans.andersen at phulse.com Wed Oct 26 21:07:07 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:07:07 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Message-ID: I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I can't wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low cost, it's pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own custom media center or a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device as well. --------------------- Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed to plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost tablet. The expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. Provisional specification - 700MHz ARM11 - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM - OpenGL ES 2.0 - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode - Composite and HDMI video output - USB 2.0 - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot - General-purpose I/O - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) And for some pictures: * Hans-Christian Andersen **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com * * From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 02:45:03 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:45:03 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Inside Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Hans-Christian You mean that you use Linux on your every day desktop? If so, I envy you, I would love to be able to do that, but for 8 hours per day I need SSMS VS2010 and maybe a few other MS based tools, it is the SSMS that I use most and I could not really use an alternative. I suppose if I can get a good RDP client for Linux I could switch to Linux for most work, eg typing this email, and only RDP when I need Sql work. thanks for the inspiration Mark On 27 October 2011 01:14, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > Arthur, > > I haven't ever tried this, since I haven't been using Windows for a desktop > since 2005, but I think what you are referring to is > Wubi, > which actually installs Ubuntu on your system in a file on your Windows > partition, but, to my knowledge, you still need to reboot in order to boot > into Ubuntu. I don't think it actually runs Ubuntu at the same time as > Windows, like how a virtual machine works. It's still a dual-boot thing. I > could be wrong though. > > I do know of some other distros that allow you to run Linux natively on > Windows while it is running, much like a virtual machine, but its obviously > faster. Have a look at coLinux < > http://www.colinux.org/?section=screenshots>. > I think you might even be able to run Ubuntu itself under coLinux, but > might > require a bit of configuration. Even cooler, there is another distro that > allows the same thing, but instead of having a separate environment running > through a window, it will actually just integrate Linux apps into your > Windows environment, so it feels transparent. It's called > andLinux > . > > Of course, these are fringe projects, so mileage may vary. > > * > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > > > > > On 26 October 2011 14:01, Arthur Fuller wrote: > > > I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 using the "run in Windows" option and the > > installation went well, but I'm not sure how to use it. No desktop icon > was > > installed; a look in All Programs doesn't show anything related to > Ubuntu, > > and a browse of the directory doesn't give me any indication of what to > do. > > Curiously, though, a look in Control Panel | Remove a Program shows it > > listed there. > > > > Any idea what's going on, and what I should do to run it inside Windows? > > (Besides VM, obviously. This install option allegedly doesn't need a VM.) > > If > > necessary, I'll re-install it as a VM inside VirtualBox. > > > > TIA, > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 02:46:35 2011 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:46:35 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] best current desktops? In-Reply-To: References: <4EA2144C.7060005@earthlink.net> <4EA23C0C.2000504@earthlink.net> <4EA286C9.23886.9D30531@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: Thanks Funny, I saw a copy of SQL Server 2006 in China back when 2005 was current. I remember being annoyed that I did not know it had been released:) Mark On 27 October 2011 01:20, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I actually spotted a copy of Windows 97 once upon a time when travelling > through asia. > > * > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > > > > > On 22 October 2011 02:03, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > > > Micreserfts OS > > > > On 21 Oct 2011 at 23:12, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > What is Winders? > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:44 PM To: Discussion of > > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] best current > > > desktops? > > > > > > Her software runs on Winders. Thanks for the suggestions. > > > > > > P. > > > > > > On 10/21/2011 10:03 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > Multi-core, 6 would be nice (but expensive), 8GB of RAM to start and > > > > does she need a good graphics card as that can save a lot of > > > > motherboard CPU cycles, Intel is still the fastest (and most > > > > expensive CPU) and I would recommend a good ASUS motherboard...so > > > > far the best and most reliable. > > > > > > > > I have no idea what platform the software package runs on but a true > > > Ubuntu > > > > server package with an Ubuntu desktop is about 3 times as fast as > > > > any Windows OS and much better at running parallel processes. > > > > > > > > If you have enough hard drive space you can run both Windows and > > > > Linux and test to see which OS gives the best results. > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter > > > > Brawley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:55 PM To: Discussion of > > > > Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] best current > > > > desktops? > > > > > > > > My geophysicist daughter wants a new desktop, 8GRAM& Windows, > > > > mostly the box will run SOTA geophysical analysis software. Any > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > > PB > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Oct 27 10:10:43 2011 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:10:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> Hans-Christian, That is simply amazing! Gotta get one of those for myself - maybe get to be a distributor for them. Wow! T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/26/2011 10:07 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I can't > wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low cost, it's > pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own custom media center or > a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. > > http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 > > There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device as > well. > > --------------------- > > Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed to > plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost tablet. The > expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. > > Provisional specification > > - 700MHz ARM11 > - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM > - OpenGL ES 2.0 > - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode > - Composite and HDMI video output > - USB 2.0 > - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot > - General-purpose I/O > - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller > - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) > > And for some pictures: > > * > > > > > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Oct 27 10:12:35 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:12:35 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 In-Reply-To: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> References: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> Message-ID: One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: 27 October 2011 16:11 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Hans-Christian, That is simply amazing! Gotta get one of those for myself - maybe get to be a distributor for them. Wow! T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/26/2011 10:07 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I > can't wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low > cost, it's pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own > custom media center or a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. > > http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 > > There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device > as well. > > --------------------- > > Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed > to plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost > tablet. The expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. > > Provisional specification > > - 700MHz ARM11 > - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM > - OpenGL ES 2.0 > - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode > - Composite and HDMI video output > - USB 2.0 > - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot > - General-purpose I/O > - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller > - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) > > And for some pictures: > > * > > > > > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Oct 27 10:30:52 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:30:52 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Message-ID: Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Thu Oct 27 10:37:08 2011 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:37:08 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <128AD994E47F460CB3089B8E7B823D0F@BPCS> Jon, Dell Latitude Tablet announced and is scheduled for Nov 1 Release date. http://microsoft-news.com/dell-latitude-st-tablet-will-go-on-sale-from-nov-1st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+msftnws+%28Microsoft+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tydda Jon - Slough" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:12 AM To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: 27 October 2011 16:11 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Hans-Christian, That is simply amazing! Gotta get one of those for myself - maybe get to be a distributor for them. Wow! T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/26/2011 10:07 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I > can't wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low > cost, it's pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own > custom media center or a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. > > http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 > > There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device > as well. > > --------------------- > > Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed > to plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost > tablet. The expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. > > Provisional specification > > - 700MHz ARM11 > - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM > - OpenGL ES 2.0 > - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode > - Composite and HDMI video output > - USB 2.0 > - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot > - General-purpose I/O > - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller > - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) > > And for some pictures: > > * > > > > > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Oct 27 10:53:28 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:53:28 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Gustav, I'll take a look at it. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 27 October 2011 16:31 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From jon.tydda at lonza.com Thu Oct 27 10:53:42 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:53:42 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 In-Reply-To: <128AD994E47F460CB3089B8E7B823D0F@BPCS> References: <4EA97473.6000302@torchlake.com> <128AD994E47F460CB3089B8E7B823D0F@BPCS> Message-ID: Thanks Bill, looks interesting. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: 27 October 2011 16:37 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Jon, Dell Latitude Tablet announced and is scheduled for Nov 1 Release date. http://microsoft-news.com/dell-latitude-st-tablet-will-go-on-sale-from-nov-1st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+msftnws+%28Microsoft+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tydda Jon - Slough" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:12 AM To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: 27 October 2011 16:11 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25 Hans-Christian, That is simply amazing! Gotta get one of those for myself - maybe get to be a distributor for them. Wow! T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/26/2011 10:07 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > I don't know if this is anything you lot might be interested in, but I > can't wait to get my mitts on one of these (or a few). For sure a low > cost, it's pretty powerful and could easily be used for your own > custom media center or a personal server that runs on 1W at full load. > > http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 > > There's got to be many other creative ways to use this little device > as well. > > --------------------- > > Our first product is about the size of a credit card, and is designed > to plug into a TV or be combined with a touch screen for a low cost > tablet. The expected price is $25 for a fully-configured system. > > Provisional specification > > - 700MHz ARM11 > - 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM > - OpenGL ES 2.0 > - 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode > - Composite and HDMI video output > - USB 2.0 > - SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot > - General-purpose I/O > - Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller > - Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) > > And for some pictures: > > * > > > > > > Hans-Christian Andersen > **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* > > *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* > *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com > * > * > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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From john at winhaven.net Thu Oct 27 11:35:03 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:35:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <023801cc94c6$60e88b70$22b9a250$@winhaven.net> Hey Jon, Let us know how it works out. I haven't read many good reviews on Windows tablets but I sure am not very happy with my Android tablet. I can't get it to recognize any USB or Bluetooth devices, it won't play flash video. It plays less than half of the videos on youtube - even though I have the youtube app. I can't get logmein to work on it. Basically useless other than browsing the web for non-video items. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:53 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Thanks Gustav, I'll take a look at it. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 27 October 2011 16:31 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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They usually add a 100 percent margin to all their goods... (Manufacture's to direct-store price is about $350.) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:31 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Oct 27 15:08:23 2011 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:08:23 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another cheap tablet has hit the market In-Reply-To: <13B5D54A893D418C9AC0DFCAD1C293FB@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <13B5D54A893D418C9AC0DFCAD1C293FB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Another cheap tablet has hit the market. It seems that India, with major government involvement is now producing a line of tablets, which will start at $35 and $60 outside India http://tinyurl.com/3slonsw It is a tablet device that is really trimmed down using only inexpensive components and it is definitely not fast but for people on a very tight budget this might for you. Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 15:20:07 2011 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:20:07 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any Word experts? Message-ID: <066115B54E6C4D5699E90595F6C79152@SusanHarkins> Weird Word request -- does anyone know if you can unlink footnotes/endnotes, but leave everything intact -- in text markers, formatting, etc. -- just no actual link? Seems counter to the purpose and I've got not ideas whatsoever. Susan H. From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Oct 28 05:42:17 2011 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:42:17 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Message-ID: We've got a Samsung Galaxy S Tablet here which runs on Android, but I haven't had the chance to use it - people keep "testing" it at home for extended periods... I'd love something like an iPad, but for simplicity, we all agree that we need the tablet to be on our AD Domain so that any user can log in and be up and running in seconds. Also, if we had an iPad or Android tablet, I'm sure it would make the device eminently more attractive to the more dishonest people... We're using a rugged Windows tablet in our laboratories here, it's a Motion CSV - they're totally waterproof, and very rugged (during the testing, we dropped them from 6 feet (whilst turned on) and there were no problems). They're not bad, but not the easiest thing to use - the handle is ok for carrying, but not for holding when you're using it, and the stylus had all sorts of issues until we found a piece of software that made it work correctly. There was an issue with double clicking using the stylus - you had to click on the exact same pixel, which was something of a challenge! Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: 27 October 2011 17:35 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hey Jon, Let us know how it works out. I haven't read many good reviews on Windows tablets but I sure am not very happy with my Android tablet. I can't get it to recognize any USB or Bluetooth devices, it won't play flash video. It plays less than half of the videos on youtube - even though I have the youtube app. I can't get logmein to work on it. Basically useless other than browsing the web for non-video items. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:53 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Thanks Gustav, I'll take a look at it. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 27 October 2011 16:31 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Oct 28 06:08:44 2011 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:08:44 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow opening of Office files on Windows 2003 R2 server Message-ID: Hi all Should you ever (= most likely) come across this, we located the solution after extended googling/binging. It is described here in the message dated 2011-10-28 by me: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-AU/w7itproappcompat/thread/fe2dd0b0-c831-45ef-bb56-501e4fae53c7 Clients are a mix of WinXP and Win 7 and Office 2003/2007/2010 in all possible combinations (except 2010 on WinXP) and experienced serious delays in opening and often also closing of Word and Excel files not matching the expected speed of the setup with GBit ethernet all over. For the Win 7 clients with Office 2007/2010 solution was this (turning on the Web Client) in combination with disabling indexing on the user's offline files cache in Indexing Options in the Control Panel. For the Win 7 clients with Office 2003 and WinXP clients, this didn't change much (for WinXP the Web Client was already set to Automatic). However, turning off OFV (Office File Validation) made the trick. This is explained here next to the bottom: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg985445%28office.12%29.aspx To prevent Office File Validation from validating files you must create the following registry key and assign it a value of "0" for the specified application in Office 2003 or Office 2007: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\<11.0 or 12.0>\\Security\FileValidation, where <11.0 or 12.0> represents the version of Office and where represents the specific Office application for which Office File Validation is installed, such as Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. All necessary parameters for configuring the registry key are listed as follows: Value: EnableOnLoad Type: REG_DWORD Default: 2 Description: Disable Office File Validation 0 = Don't validate 1 = Validate 2 = Validate unless called via object model For Office 2010 replace the key above (11.0 or 12.0) with 14.0 We do not run Windows 2008 R2 as file server but I guess the issue would be the same. /gustav From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 09:58:25 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:58:25 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any Word experts? In-Reply-To: <066115B54E6C4D5699E90595F6C79152@SusanHarkins> References: <066115B54E6C4D5699E90595F6C79152@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: Speak with Bryan Carbonell (sp?). He seems to walk through the Word model effortlessly. I have even hired him to help me solve some problems, and was very happy with his deliverables. He knows this stuff inside out, and he taught me more than a few tricks. A. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Weird Word request -- does anyone know if you can unlink > footnotes/endnotes, but leave everything intact -- in text markers, > formatting, etc. -- just no actual link? Seems counter to the purpose and > I've got not ideas whatsoever. > > Susan H. > From carbonnb at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 13:04:37 2011 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:04:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any Word experts? In-Reply-To: References: <066115B54E6C4D5699E90595F6C79152@SusanHarkins> Message-ID: Thanks for the kind word Arthur. That was many moons, versions of Word and lifetimes ago :) That and I have NO idea how to do it :( Sorry Susan. B On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Speak with Bryan Carbonell (sp?). He seems to walk through the Word model > effortlessly. I have even hired him to help me solve some problems, and was > very happy with his deliverables. He knows this stuff inside out, and he > taught me more than a few tricks. > > A. > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> Weird Word request -- does anyone know if you can unlink >> footnotes/endnotes, but leave everything intact -- in text markers, >> formatting, etc. -- just no actual link? Seems counter to the purpose and >> I've got not ideas whatsoever. >> >> Susan H. >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 06:17:31 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 07:17:31 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Fate Message-ID: This is about the funniest radio I have ever heard in my life, and I spend a lot of time listening to radio...a snowman that can bench-press 400 pounds LOL. http://www.thisamericanlife.org/play_full.php?play=323&act=2 What's the investment opportunity? Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 09:05:11 2011 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 10:05:11 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Another cheap tablet has hit the market In-Reply-To: References: <13B5D54A893D418C9AC0DFCAD1C293FB@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: In my retirement years, this little baby is definitely within my price range. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Another cheap tablet has hit the market. It seems that India, with major > government involvement is now producing a line of tablets, which will start > at $35 and $60 outside India > > http://tinyurl.com/3slonsw > > From john at winhaven.net Sat Oct 29 13:11:58 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:11:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <056c01cc9666$3fff0550$bffd0ff0$@winhaven.net> I tried one of the new Android v3 devices the other day and it seemed to handle every video I could find. Whether or not they have the USB and Bluetooth connectivity worked is yet to be determined. If I have time I'll ask the store clerk to try it for me :o) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 5:42 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) We've got a Samsung Galaxy S Tablet here which runs on Android, but I haven't had the chance to use it - people keep "testing" it at home for extended periods... I'd love something like an iPad, but for simplicity, we all agree that we need the tablet to be on our AD Domain so that any user can log in and be up and running in seconds. Also, if we had an iPad or Android tablet, I'm sure it would make the device eminently more attractive to the more dishonest people... We're using a rugged Windows tablet in our laboratories here, it's a Motion CSV - they're totally waterproof, and very rugged (during the testing, we dropped them from 6 feet (whilst turned on) and there were no problems). They're not bad, but not the easiest thing to use - the handle is ok for carrying, but not for holding when you're using it, and the stylus had all sorts of issues until we found a piece of software that made it work correctly. There was an issue with double clicking using the stylus - you had to click on the exact same pixel, which was something of a challenge! Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: 27 October 2011 17:35 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hey Jon, Let us know how it works out. I haven't read many good reviews on Windows tablets but I sure am not very happy with my Android tablet. I can't get it to recognize any USB or Bluetooth devices, it won't play flash video. It plays less than half of the videos on youtube - even though I have the youtube app. I can't get logmein to work on it. Basically useless other than browsing the web for non-video items. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Slough Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:53 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Thanks Gustav, I'll take a look at it. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 27 October 2011 16:31 To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet Windows 7 (was: RasberryPi - A tiny computer for $25) Hi John Yes, Acer Iconia, though I have not tested it myself: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia-tab-w500 /gustav >>> jon.tydda at lonza.com 27-10-2011 17:12 >>> One a similar note, does anyone know of a Windows 7 based tablet? I'm looking for something that looks like an actual tablet, with no keyboard, rather than a convertible laptop... Any ideas? Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sat Oct 29 17:02:17 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:02:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage Message-ID: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp site? PB From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Oct 29 17:20:20 2011 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:20:20 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4EAC7C24.32475.186ADA09@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> If it doesn't have removable storage such as an SD disk so that I can access those ebooks off-line, I won't be buying one. -- Stuart On 29 Oct 2011 at 17:02, Peter Brawley wrote: > If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or > fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your > own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp > site? > > PB > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jon at tydda.plus.com Sat Oct 29 17:34:36 2011 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:34:36 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <721950FA1352406BACC63C5372376FB8@jt2c> I have the Kindle App on my iPhone, and all the books that aren't currently loaded are stored by Amazon. I don't use iBook or anything else like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: 29 October 2011 23:02 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp site? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sat Oct 29 18:00:59 2011 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:00:59 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <4EAC7C24.32475.186ADA09@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> <4EAC7C24.32475.186ADA09@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <4EAC85AB.2050700@earthlink.net> On 10/29/2011 5:20 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > If it doesn't have removable storage such as an SD disk so that I can access those ebooks > off-line, I won't be buying one. Interesting. If I have a $400 32G tablet with a $75 64G SD card, I can carry mebbe 15 books. That seems a low ceiling for that money, or an argument for buying cloud space and hoping for wifi everywhere I go. Which is why I'm asking. PB From john at winhaven.net Sun Oct 30 23:04:48 2011 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:04:48 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <721950FA1352406BACC63C5372376FB8@jt2c> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> <721950FA1352406BACC63C5372376FB8@jt2c> Message-ID: <00b401cc9782$3d9417c0$b8bc4740$@winhaven.net> I do the same but with my PC, Android Tablet and Kindle device. I bought the Kindle because of e-ink being so easy on the eyes but have found that Kindle and Amazon have this thing down pat. If they have the video & music down as good with the Kindle Fire as they do with the standard Kindle then it should be great. I wish I would have waited until they released it because I find the Android Tablet I have to be a waste of money. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:35 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] tablet usage I have the Kindle App on my iPhone, and all the books that aren't currently loaded are stored by Amazon. I don't use iBook or anything else like that. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: 29 October 2011 23:02 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp site? PB _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hans.andersen at phulse.com Mon Oct 31 01:27:29 2011 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:27:29 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] tablet usage In-Reply-To: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> References: <4EAC77E9.100@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I use iCloud and the Kindle iPad app, which has more or less solved that issue for me. - Hans On 2011-10-29, at 3:02 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > If you want to use your tablet to read or refer to ten or twenty or fifty books anywhere you go, what do you do, keep those ebooks in your own personal cloud, or in paid Google Docs space, or on your own ftp site? > > PB > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com