From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Feb  1 08:21:05 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:21:05 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
Message-ID: <sf29587a.014@cactus.dk>

Hi all

I need some serious help. 
This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in Denmark opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well actually seems to block it:

http://www.virk.dk 

I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the issue spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE and Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS (this is a standard AD setup). No change.

Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets ...
However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look and tell what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.

/gustav





From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb  1 08:19:24 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:19:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
In-Reply-To: <sf29587a.014@cactus.dk>
References: <sf29587a.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i3CaqZBkb=1bn5jMZbAyJ00S26hpco=+uF=UzjueNtPw@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

It ran fine from Canada.

Arthur

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I need some serious help.
> This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in Denmark
> opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well actually seems
> to block it:
>
> http://www.virk.dk
>
> I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the issue
> spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE and
> Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS (this is
> a standard AD setup). No change.
>
> Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending
> workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets ...
> However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look and tell
> what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers and
> software developers.
>
> -- Arthur Fuller
>

From eptept at gmail.com  Wed Feb  1 08:22:24 2012
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:22:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i3CaqZBkb=1bn5jMZbAyJ00S26hpco=+uF=UzjueNtPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sf29587a.014@cactus.dk>
	<CAEPJO1i3CaqZBkb=1bn5jMZbAyJ00S26hpco=+uF=UzjueNtPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpXBAFnBh+vR9AQk+S7m8FQv+ouC3nDYKY2WuB1ipj5mAA@mail.gmail.com>

Ditto from New York

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> Gustav,
>
> It ran fine from Canada.
>
> Arthur
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I need some serious help.
> > This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in Denmark
> > opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well actually seems
> > to block it:
> >
> > http://www.virk.dk
> >
> > I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the
> issue
> > spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE and
> > Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS (this
> is
> > a standard AD setup). No change.
> >
> > Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending
> > workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets ...
> > However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look and
> tell
> > what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers and
> > software developers.
> >
> > -- Arthur Fuller
>  >
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Feb  1 08:44:00 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 06:44:00 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
In-Reply-To: <CAEkqQpXBAFnBh+vR9AQk+S7m8FQv+ouC3nDYKY2WuB1ipj5mAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sf29587a.014@cactus.dk><CAEPJO1i3CaqZBkb=1bn5jMZbAyJ00S26hpco=+uF=UzjueNtPw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpXBAFnBh+vR9AQk+S7m8FQv+ouC3nDYKY2WuB1ipj5mAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7D2C2386272346B7B089DD2E5DF5284E@HAL9007>

Sorry I can't help with the packets but the site loads fine here in
California.  

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:22 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal

Ditto from New York

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Arthur Fuller
<fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> Gustav,
>
> It ran fine from Canada.
>
> Arthur
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I need some serious help.
> > This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in 
> > Denmark opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well 
> > actually seems to block it:
> >
> > http://www.virk.dk
> >
> > I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the
> issue
> > spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE and 
> > Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS 
> > (this
> is
> > a standard AD setup). No change.
> >
> > Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending 
> > workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets
...
> > However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look 
> > and
> tell
> > what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers 
> > and software developers.
> >
> > -- Arthur Fuller
>  >
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Feb  1 08:43:56 2012
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:43:56 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i3CaqZBkb=1bn5jMZbAyJ00S26hpco=+uF=UzjueNtPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sf29587a.014@cactus.dk>
	<CAEPJO1i3CaqZBkb=1bn5jMZbAyJ00S26hpco=+uF=UzjueNtPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB082957BB46D49FE@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Fine here using Windows 7 and IE9

Martin


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: 01 February 2012 14:19
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal

Gustav,

It ran fine from Canada.

Arthur

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I need some serious help.
> This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in 
> Denmark opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well 
> actually seems to block it:
>
> http://www.virk.dk
>
> I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the 
> issue spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE 
> and Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS 
> (this is a standard AD setup). No change.
>
> Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending 
> workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets ...
> However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look and 
> tell what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers 
> and software developers.
>
> -- Arthur Fuller
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Feb  1 08:53:46 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:53:46 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
Message-ID: <sf296021.017@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Yes, that's the problem. But on some workstations here it is as blocked. I'm out of ideas what to look for.

/gustav


>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 01-02-2012 15:44 >>>
Sorry I can't help with the packets but the site loads fine here in
California.  

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:22 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal

Ditto from New York

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Arthur Fuller
<fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> Gustav,
>
> It ran fine from Canada.
>
> Arthur
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I need some serious help.
> > This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in 
> > Denmark opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well 
> > actually seems to block it:
> >
> > http://www.virk.dk 
> >
> > I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the
> issue
> > spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE and 
> > Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS 
> > (this
> is
> > a standard AD setup). No change.
> >
> > Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending 
> > workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets
...
> > However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look 
> > and
> tell
> > what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers 
> > and software developers.
> >
> > -- Arthur Fuller




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Feb  1 09:41:23 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 16:41:23 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
Message-ID: <sf296b4a.018@cactus.dk>

Hi all

As always, just by writing you get an idea. We use Ad Muncher at some workstations to block adds and it works very well. But this site is completely blocked by AM even if it is disabled - you have to unload it completely. Never seen that before.

Thanks for watching!

/gustav


>>> mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk 01-02-2012 15:43 >>>
Fine here using Windows 7 and IE9

Martin


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: 01 February 2012 14:19
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal

Gustav,

It ran fine from Canada.

Arthur

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I need some serious help.
> This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in 
> Denmark opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well 
> actually seems to block it:
>
> http://www.virk.dk 
>
> I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the 
> issue spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE 
> and Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS 
> (this is a standard AD setup). No change.
>
> Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending 
> workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets ...
> However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look and 
> tell what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers 
> and software developers.
>
> -- Arthur Fuller



From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Feb  1 10:16:10 2012
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 10:16:10 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
In-Reply-To: <sf296b4a.018@cactus.dk>
References: <sf296b4a.018@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pJGReFDidxWy+t2ZzS_Z-S0wp0U0ic2rwEYwkS2rrJTBg@mail.gmail.com>

Glad you figured it out Gustav. I tested on two machines in FF and IE8
and it worked find on all.

GK

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> As always, just by writing you get an idea. We use Ad Muncher at some workstations to block adds and it works very well. But this site is completely blocked by AM even if it is disabled - you have to unload it completely. Never seen that before.
>
> Thanks for watching!
>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk 01-02-2012 15:43 >>>
> Fine here using Windows 7 and IE9
>
> Martin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: 01 February 2012 14:19
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
>
> Gustav,
>
> It ran fine from Canada.
>
> Arthur
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I need some serious help.
>> This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in
>> Denmark opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well
>> actually seems to block it:
>>
>> http://www.virk.dk
>>
>> I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the
>> issue spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE
>> and Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS
>> (this is a standard AD setup). No change.
>>
>> Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending
>> workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets ...
>> However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look and
>> tell what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>> Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers
>> and software developers.
>>
>> -- Arthur Fuller
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Wed Feb  1 10:47:36 2012
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:47:36 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
In-Reply-To: <7D2C2386272346B7B089DD2E5DF5284E@HAL9007>
References: <sf29587a.014@cactus.dk><CAEPJO1i3CaqZBkb=1bn5jMZbAyJ00S26hpco=+uF=UzjueNtPw@mail.gmail.com><CAEkqQpXBAFnBh+vR9AQk+S7
	m8FQv+ouC3nDYKY2WuB1ipj5mAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7D2C2386272346B7B089DD2E5DF5284E@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <4F296CA8.4030509@torchlake.com>

And here, in northern Michigan - :-)
T

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields at torchlake.com
231-322-2787


On 2/1/2012 9:44 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Sorry I can't help with the packets but the site loads fine here in
> California.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:22 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
>
> Ditto from New York
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Arthur Fuller
> <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Gustav,
>>
>> It ran fine from Canada.
>>
>> Arthur
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Gustav Brock<Gustav at cactus.dk>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I need some serious help.
>>> This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in
>>> Denmark opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well
>>> actually seems to block it:
>>>
>>> http://www.virk.dk
>>>
>>> I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the
>> issue
>>> spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE and
>>> Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS
>>> (this
>> is
>>> a standard AD setup). No change.
>>>
>>> Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending
>>> workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets
> ...
>>> However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look
>>> and
>> tell
>>> what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.
>>>
>>> /gustav
>>>
>>>
>>> Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers
>>> and software developers.
>>>
>>> -- Arthur Fuller
>>   >
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Feb  1 12:45:11 2012
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 13:45:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook custom form question
Message-ID: <D022B1CD62FD494098EF8313ABB304EB@SusanHarkins>

A reader's trying to publish an Outlook 2010 custom Contact form. He wants to use it with all contacts, even existing contacts. I don't work a lot customizing Outlook, but I thought these custom forms were for input -- can you publish a custom form to display existing contact data? 

Susan H. 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  1 14:22:31 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:22:31 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
In-Reply-To: <sf29587a.014@cactus.dk>
References: <sf29587a.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <904B1E86CA364325973F416C1868262D@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Under normal contions I would suggest check to see whether particular
JavaScript module was being blocked, the page DOCTYPE was set to strict, or
the station is not in the same domain (that can affect certain functions)
but obviously not the case.

As the problem is in all browsers the issue must be in the registry
somewhere. Do a comparison. Very unlikely but always possible there may be a
DLL or API missing or corrupted from the offending OS. (Was there any
installs recently that only partially completed or a virus that was recently
removed as they sometimes leave corruption behind?)

One more question, what is the defult IE version as the code links to a
different CSS set and JS modules if the app thinks the browser is less than
or equal to IE8. Temporarily remove them from the code and see what happens.

My bet, without further observation, would be that it is OS and registry
issue.

If you could forward the pcap file, I would forward it on to my SiL as he is
a packet expert.

Jim

PS the site works fine here but the browser requested some JavaScript module
install before proceeding...I wouldn't think it is related. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:21 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal

Hi all

I need some serious help. 
This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in Denmark
opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well actually seems to
block it:

http://www.virk.dk 

I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the issue
spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE and Chrome.
Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS (this is a
standard AD setup). No change.

Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending
workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets ...
However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look and tell
what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.

/gustav




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  1 14:27:36 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:27:36 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal
In-Reply-To: <sf296b4a.018@cactus.dk>
References: <sf296b4a.018@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <274D48E10E6A43609EED29446499012A@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Good to know and now another tool.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 7:41 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal

Hi all

As always, just by writing you get an idea. We use Ad Muncher at some
workstations to block adds and it works very well. But this site is
completely blocked by AM even if it is disabled - you have to unload it
completely. Never seen that before.

Thanks for watching!

/gustav


>>> mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk 01-02-2012 15:43 >>>
Fine here using Windows 7 and IE9

Martin


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: 01 February 2012 14:19
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stubborn portal

Gustav,

It ran fine from Canada.

Arthur

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I need some serious help.
> This site which is the official main portal of the authorities in 
> Denmark opens fine at some workstations while some refuse to, well 
> actually seems to block it:
>
> http://www.virk.dk 
>
> I have of course tried all the usual down to reinstalling IE but the 
> issue spans across OSs (WinXP, Win7 32 and 64) as well as browsers, IE 
> and Chrome. Also tried to disable antivirus and firewall. Checked DNS 
> (this is a standard AD setup). No change.
>
> Thus I made a packet capture with Wireshark on of the offending 
> workstations. Seems like the portal is returning invalid HTTP packets ...
> However, I'm not a packet expert, so if someone could have a look and 
> tell what is going on, I can mail the pcap file off-line.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers 
> and software developers.
>
> -- Arthur Fuller


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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Feb  2 00:34:33 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 00:34:33 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook custom form question
In-Reply-To: <D022B1CD62FD494098EF8313ABB304EB@SusanHarkins>
References: <D022B1CD62FD494098EF8313ABB304EB@SusanHarkins>
Message-ID: <011901cce174$bb396ae0$31ac40a0$@winhaven.net>

Yes. But if you added custom fields or a field that was not previously used
because it was not readily available (there's quite a few) then you'd need
to either automate populating those fields or manually edit them to include
that information. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:45 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook custom form question

A reader's trying to publish an Outlook 2010 custom Contact form. He wants
to use it with all contacts, even existing contacts. I don't work a lot
customizing Outlook, but I thought these custom forms were for input -- can
you publish a custom form to display existing contact data? 

Susan H. 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb  2 14:37:17 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:37:17 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Kinect For Windows SDK v1 is out!
In-Reply-To: <D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <F569BEC4C7A0401BBCEF2B02EA9ADA9F@creativesystemdesigns.com>

The kinetic version of Windows8 is out. 

Now we can look forward to a version that will run on all the netpad,
Smartphone and touch screen PCs the have Windows 8 installed. The list of
features that is now in the first release and subsequent releases is
impressive, to say the least.

http://channel9.msdn.com/coding4fun/kinect/Special-Edition-Its-Kinect-day-Th
e-Kinect-For-Windows-SDK-v1-is-out

Jim 


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Feb  3 02:41:01 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:41:01 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Kinect For Windows SDK v1 is out!
Message-ID: <sf2babb8.073@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Thanks! Very interesting.
Now what to use this for? Mostly surrounded by administrative people, I have a hard time finding some purpose for everyday's use.
Any ideas? Room control for example?

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 02-02-2012 21:37 >>>
The kinetic version of Windows8 is out. 

Now we can look forward to a version that will run on all the netpad,
Smartphone and touch screen PCs the have Windows 8 installed. The list of
features that is now in the first release and subsequent releases is
impressive, to say the least.

http://channel9.msdn.com/coding4fun/kinect/Special-Edition-Its-Kinect-day-The-Kinect-For-Windows-SDK-v1-is-out

Jim 



From john at winhaven.net  Fri Feb  3 09:58:48 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:58:48 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Kinect For Windows SDK v1 is out!
In-Reply-To: <sf2babb8.073@cactus.dk>
References: <sf2babb8.073@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <004201cce28c$b7f1d5c0$27d58140$@winhaven.net>

When you get really frustrated with a bug chase, throw your arms up in the
air it could just reboot automatically. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:41 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The Kinect For Windows SDK v1 is out!

Hi Jim

Thanks! Very interesting.
Now what to use this for? Mostly surrounded by administrative people, I have
a hard time finding some purpose for everyday's use.
Any ideas? Room control for example?

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 02-02-2012 21:37 >>>
The kinetic version of Windows8 is out. 

Now we can look forward to a version that will run on all the netpad,
Smartphone and touch screen PCs the have Windows 8 installed. The list of
features that is now in the first release and subsequent releases is
impressive, to say the least.

http://channel9.msdn.com/coding4fun/kinect/Special-Edition-Its-Kinect-day-Th
e-Kinect-For-Windows-SDK-v1-is-out

Jim 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb  3 10:30:51 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:30:51 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Kinect For Windows SDK v1 is out!
In-Reply-To: <sf2babb8.073@cactus.dk>
References: <sf2babb8.073@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <9E27FFFD147E48D88F74222D3F7E8079@creativesystemdesigns.com>

There may be all sorts of uses in the future. 

Right now its obvious use is as a game controller...but gesture controls
could allow a pad or LCD screen to be controlled from a distance rather than
direct contact. Of course any app would have to have face-recognition and
the ability to focus. Just think what a cat could do as it ran by. ;-)

Jim
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:41 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The Kinect For Windows SDK v1 is out!

Hi Jim

Thanks! Very interesting.
Now what to use this for? Mostly surrounded by administrative people, I have
a hard time finding some purpose for everyday's use.
Any ideas? Room control for example?

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 02-02-2012 21:37 >>>
The kinetic version of Windows8 is out. 

Now we can look forward to a version that will run on all the netpad,
Smartphone and touch screen PCs the have Windows 8 installed. The list of
features that is now in the first release and subsequent releases is
impressive, to say the least.

http://channel9.msdn.com/coding4fun/kinect/Special-Edition-Its-Kinect-day-Th
e-Kinect-For-Windows-SDK-v1-is-out

Jim 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb  3 10:31:39 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:31:39 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Kinect For Windows SDK v1 is out!
In-Reply-To: <004201cce28c$b7f1d5c0$27d58140$@winhaven.net>
References: <sf2babb8.073@cactus.dk>
	<004201cce28c$b7f1d5c0$27d58140$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <64063E2BB3B34C50BCDE6851222134C6@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Excellent idea.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 7:59 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The Kinect For Windows SDK v1 is out!

When you get really frustrated with a bug chase, throw your arms up in the
air it could just reboot automatically. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:41 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The Kinect For Windows SDK v1 is out!

Hi Jim

Thanks! Very interesting.
Now what to use this for? Mostly surrounded by administrative people, I have
a hard time finding some purpose for everyday's use.
Any ideas? Room control for example?

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 02-02-2012 21:37 >>>
The kinetic version of Windows8 is out. 

Now we can look forward to a version that will run on all the netpad,
Smartphone and touch screen PCs the have Windows 8 installed. The list of
features that is now in the first release and subsequent releases is
impressive, to say the least.

http://channel9.msdn.com/coding4fun/kinect/Special-Edition-Its-Kinect-day-Th
e-Kinect-For-Windows-SDK-v1-is-out

Jim 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  6 11:10:35 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:10:35 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet
In-Reply-To: <D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Are we now experiencing the Golden age of the internet and will it all come
to an end? Here is a good article discussing what are the threats that could
put an end to internet as we know it.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-threats-to-the-golden-age-of-th
e-internet/3024?tag=nl.e101

Jim


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb  6 11:33:27 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:33:27 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet
In-Reply-To: <66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com><CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com><CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com><D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>

The internet as we know it will certainly change so I guess by definition
the internet as we know it will come to an end.  But the internet won't come
to an end.  TV used to be totally free - now we pay for it.  But there's
more content not less. Of course a lot of that content is crap.  Of course a
lot of web content is crap.  Maybe having to pay for the crap will drive the
crap out of the internet.  So having to pay for content might upgrade the
whole internet's quality.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:11 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues';
dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

Are we now experiencing the Golden age of the internet and will it all come
to an end? Here is a good article discussing what are the threats that could
put an end to internet as we know it.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-threats-to-the-golden-age-of-th
e-internet/3024?tag=nl.e101

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  6 12:41:11 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:41:11 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet
In-Reply-To: <C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>

You are wishing of course and not expecting. 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:33 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

The internet as we know it will certainly change so I guess by definition
the internet as we know it will come to an end.  But the internet won't come
to an end.  TV used to be totally free - now we pay for it.  But there's
more content not less. Of course a lot of that content is crap.  Of course a
lot of web content is crap.  Maybe having to pay for the crap will drive the
crap out of the internet.  So having to pay for content might upgrade the
whole internet's quality.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:11 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues';
dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

Are we now experiencing the Golden age of the internet and will it all come
to an end? Here is a good article discussing what are the threats that could
put an end to internet as we know it.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-threats-to-the-golden-age-of-th
e-internet/3024?tag=nl.e101

Jim

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb  6 13:16:19 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:16:19 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet
In-Reply-To: <877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com><CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com><CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com><D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007><66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com><C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>

No - expecting - like you.  Except I expect the best - you expect the worst.
:-)

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:41 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

You are wishing of course and not expecting. 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:33 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

The internet as we know it will certainly change so I guess by definition
the internet as we know it will come to an end.  But the internet won't come
to an end.  TV used to be totally free - now we pay for it.  But there's
more content not less. Of course a lot of that content is crap.  Of course a
lot of web content is crap.  Maybe having to pay for the crap will drive the
crap out of the internet.  So having to pay for content might upgrade the
whole internet's quality.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:11 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues';
dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

Are we now experiencing the Golden age of the internet and will it all come
to an end? Here is a good article discussing what are the threats that could
put an end to internet as we know it.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-threats-to-the-golden-age-of-th
e-internet/3024?tag=nl.e101

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  7 10:31:00 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:31:00 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet
In-Reply-To: <16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <F492E50799DA48D39E60DCF688A2D850@creativesystemdesigns.com>

No Rocky you have got it all wrong. 

Prepare for the worse and hope for the best. 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:16 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

No - expecting - like you.  Except I expect the best - you expect the worst.
:-)

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:41 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

You are wishing of course and not expecting. 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:33 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

The internet as we know it will certainly change so I guess by definition
the internet as we know it will come to an end.  But the internet won't come
to an end.  TV used to be totally free - now we pay for it.  But there's
more content not less. Of course a lot of that content is crap.  Of course a
lot of web content is crap.  Maybe having to pay for the crap will drive the
crap out of the internet.  So having to pay for content might upgrade the
whole internet's quality.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:11 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues';
dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Threats to the internet

Are we now experiencing the Golden age of the internet and will it all come
to an end? Here is a good article discussing what are the threats that could
put an end to internet as we know it.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-threats-to-the-golden-age-of-th
e-internet/3024?tag=nl.e101

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  7 10:38:55 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:38:55 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox
In-Reply-To: <16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <6C8EF1CC5AD14C41A816A54B4CEFA9DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Firefox is making 3 bold advancements and they should bring more balance in
the web. Whether their success matches their vision is still in the future
but it will be interesting watch. Regardless, who can complain about an Open
Source option...

There is nothing like Open Source to keep all players "honest".

http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/mozillas-3-bold-bets-keep-th
e-web-open-182492

Jim  


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  7 11:24:59 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:24:59 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux anyone
In-Reply-To: <F492E50799DA48D39E60DCF688A2D850@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
	<F492E50799DA48D39E60DCF688A2D850@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <294FEEC5663D44B18770C3797D48E14B@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Here is a link to 169, most totally irreverent Linux Desktops. Some proud,
some rude, some arrogant but all Linux.

http://tinyurl.com/7n2yfl7

Some will bring a smile to your face regardless of your religious
affiliations.

Jim


From df.waters at comcast.net  Tue Feb  7 11:35:13 2012
From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:35:13 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux anyone
In-Reply-To: <294FEEC5663D44B18770C3797D48E14B@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>	<F492E50799DA48D39E60DCF688A2D850@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<294FEEC5663D44B18770C3797D48E14B@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <003f01cce5be$d93d1e30$8bb75a90$@comcast.net>

Don't Panic - It's Not Windows


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:25 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux anyone

Here is a link to 169, most totally irreverent Linux Desktops. Some proud,
some rude, some arrogant but all Linux.

http://tinyurl.com/7n2yfl7

Some will bring a smile to your face regardless of your religious
affiliations.

Jim

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Feb  7 11:38:26 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:38:26 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux anyone
In-Reply-To: <294FEEC5663D44B18770C3797D48E14B@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com><CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com><CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com><D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007><66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com><C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007><877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com><16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007><F492E50799DA48D39E60DCF688A2D850@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<294FEEC5663D44B18770C3797D48E14B@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <B230757FD2064B75B3B2611392907C39@HAL9007>

I liked this one:

https://plus.google.com/photos/111560558537332305125/albums/5660321172826112
257/5660787730647958322

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:25 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux anyone

Here is a link to 169, most totally irreverent Linux Desktops. Some proud,
some rude, some arrogant but all Linux.

http://tinyurl.com/7n2yfl7

Some will bring a smile to your face regardless of your religious
affiliations.

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  7 12:42:52 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:42:52 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Censorship
In-Reply-To: <294FEEC5663D44B18770C3797D48E14B@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
	<F492E50799DA48D39E60DCF688A2D850@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<294FEEC5663D44B18770C3797D48E14B@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <8E4F033DBE38496B84DCF0BFA8F0628C@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Regardless of your views on SOPA and PIPA, the philosophy the created that
legislation in the first place will not go away. 

In the coming years there are big interests and big money looking forward to
seeing these measures are enacted, in all their flaws, using a Hiroshima
type solution...the ultimate deterrent and solution. 

http://tinyurl.com/6oj8fhr

Jim


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  7 13:40:26 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:40:26 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox
In-Reply-To: <6C8EF1CC5AD14C41A816A54B4CEFA9DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
	<6C8EF1CC5AD14C41A816A54B4CEFA9DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F317E2A.6030706@earthlink.net>

On 2/7/2012 10:38 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Firefox is making 3 bold advancements and they should bring more balance in
> the web. Whether their success matches their vision is still in the future
> but it will be interesting watch. Regardless, who can complain about an Open
> Source option...
>
> There is nothing like Open Source to keep all players "honest".

Yep but there's no substitute for quality. Here FF has here reched "use 
only when necessary" because of its crashes & weird slowdowns.

PB

-----

>
> http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/mozillas-3-bold-bets-keep-th
> e-web-open-182492
>
> Jim
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  7 14:20:18 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:20:18 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox
In-Reply-To: <4F317E2A.6030706@earthlink.net>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
	<6C8EF1CC5AD14C41A816A54B4CEFA9DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F317E2A.6030706@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C8C09ECADA9945399A273B02134E6E52@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Quality...Hmmm. Where would find that?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:40 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox

On 2/7/2012 10:38 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Firefox is making 3 bold advancements and they should bring more balance
in
> the web. Whether their success matches their vision is still in the future
> but it will be interesting watch. Regardless, who can complain about an
Open
> Source option...
>
> There is nothing like Open Source to keep all players "honest".

Yep but there's no substitute for quality. Here FF has here reched "use 
only when necessary" because of its crashes & weird slowdowns.

PB

-----

>
>
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/mozillas-3-bold-bets-keep-th
> e-web-open-182492
>
> Jim
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Feb  7 21:22:12 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 21:22:12 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox
In-Reply-To: <C8C09ECADA9945399A273B02134E6E52@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>	<6C8EF1CC5AD14C41A816A54B4CEFA9DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<4F317E2A.6030706@earthlink.net>
	<C8C09ECADA9945399A273B02134E6E52@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <014d01cce610$d912b990$8b382cb0$@winhaven.net>

http://www.infoworld.com/t/anti-spyware/internet-explorer-dominates-browser-
security-google-faces-accusations-185938


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:20 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox

Quality...Hmmm. Where would find that?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:40 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox

On 2/7/2012 10:38 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Firefox is making 3 bold advancements and they should bring more 
> balance
in
> the web. Whether their success matches their vision is still in the 
> future but it will be interesting watch. Regardless, who can complain 
> about an
Open
> Source option...
>
> There is nothing like Open Source to keep all players "honest".

Yep but there's no substitute for quality. Here FF has here reched "use only
when necessary" because of its crashes & weird slowdowns.

PB

-----

>
>
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/mozillas-3-bold-bets-keep-th
> e-web-open-182492
>
> Jim
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  7 22:18:12 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:18:12 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox
In-Reply-To: <014d01cce610$d912b990$8b382cb0$@winhaven.net>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ieH=Ve1tCbjKCFGdE6m_GMqSrkkdSBuV82RP8dXTUu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
	<6C8EF1CC5AD14C41A816A54B4CEFA9DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F317E2A.6030706@earthlink.net>
	<C8C09ECADA9945399A273B02134E6E52@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<014d01cce610$d912b990$8b382cb0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <05C4205DCAB24282980B70B0C28D9813@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Ted Samson, the writer of the article, writes for many e-magazines like
InfoWorld, PCWorld, TechWorld and so on. He has long had a history as a
absolute Microsoft supporter and it has done him well as he has always had
access to the latest and greatest from MS.

His article is long on opinion and short on details. He may be right on
target with his facts and observation but OTOH the article might just be a
MS hack job.

PS He was the guy who broke the story on IEs super-fast graphic rendering
engine but it turned out to be a setup challenge. 

I will wait and see more facts, from other tech writers before accepting his
version.

Jim    

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:22 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox

http://www.infoworld.com/t/anti-spyware/internet-explorer-dominates-browser-
security-google-faces-accusations-185938


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:20 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox

Quality...Hmmm. Where would find that?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:40 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox

On 2/7/2012 10:38 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Firefox is making 3 bold advancements and they should bring more 
> balance
in
> the web. Whether their success matches their vision is still in the 
> future but it will be interesting watch. Regardless, who can complain 
> about an
Open
> Source option...
>
> There is nothing like Open Source to keep all players "honest".

Yep but there's no substitute for quality. Here FF has here reched "use only
when necessary" because of its crashes & weird slowdowns.

PB

-----

>
>
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/mozillas-3-bold-bets-keep-th
> e-web-open-182492
>
> Jim
>
> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb  9 00:06:35 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:06:35 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to run Node.js within your IIS server
In-Reply-To: <014d01cce610$d912b990$8b382cb0$@winhaven.net>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
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	<6C8EF1CC5AD14C41A816A54B4CEFA9DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F317E2A.6030706@earthlink.net>
	<C8C09ECADA9945399A273B02134E6E52@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<014d01cce610$d912b990$8b382cb0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Just ran across this link and thought it would be a fine idea to share it.

Unless you have been living in a box under the bridge you have heard of
Node.js and its almost legendary performance capabilities. In a nutshell,
Node.js is just the Chrome V8 asynchronous event driven engine, in a
wrapper, using the JavaScript language and it functions like/similar an IIS
or Apache server...just a lot faster in its native environment. (It is both
a server and a language all in one.)

Check out the basics at http://nodejs.org and view the vids.

Here is a link to page that describes the performance levels and comparison
benchmarks between the Apache Server with PHP and Node.js (server and
language).

http://tinyurl.com/3wtt5ry

The above authors conclusion, considering that Apache is no dog are as
follows: " ...As the above tests show, node is fast. Really fast. Much
faster than Apache - many more requests per second, higher transfer rate
with much smaller number of failed requests at the same time. Really
shining... "

The following link describes a way to load Node.js within the MS environment
and it does not require a virtual Linux machine or a full Linux
partition/box. Node.js will not run nearly as fast as it would own
environment, Linux, but there is some nice benefits to running it within
IIS.

http://tinyurl.com/4yuacxa

Note: that Node.js and all the coding around it is in its preliminary stages
so things may change fast...mostly for the best but this product is far from
stable. Also note, that there are a number of discussions and samples on how
to connect through from JS to MSSQL and for those real curious how to
connect to such databases as Cassandra, Postgres, MySQL and so on.

With the ability to run JavaScript as both a FE and BE many new apps are
appearing like, How to build a js app for your game console, How to unload
files to a server just using js, How to build PDF files with js and so on.

Jim     


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb  9 11:15:22 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:15:22 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or a technology
In-Reply-To: <FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+NdAcnkOOxDqA=tgsjg_Hma7C-A+zJBvaqcX5yFTBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAJ2R_pJZ-brG0koeNAOEOPNP4cA+eu8NQ8HJC51J46AbC=LgAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hAOgHRLLGfNQt0skwqznprtMed9ZLY=wL4yPXUW4=CMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2BD11A695144191995AEC3204A4A8F4@HAL9007>
	<66821F4DBAEF49BFB76BC8861AC761BA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<C1AB6D2D561B446C8B2A9743B7568295@HAL9007>
	<877FFE8E8EC8400897DED53499E67FF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<16EB9617C24A432C8B2358DEB9695A94@HAL9007>
	<6C8EF1CC5AD14C41A816A54B4CEFA9DE@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F317E2A.6030706@earthlink.net>
	<C8C09ECADA9945399A273B02134E6E52@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<014d01cce610$d912b990$8b382cb0$@winhaven.net>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>

I have read and listened to many articles and even dabbled in (not
necessarily successfully...yet) in the new world of NoSQL (or more
accurately Map reduce) type databases.

These new structures are making us reassess the way we define data. The
rules of ACID (Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation, Durability) no longer
apply, at least not in the way we have learned or have been taught. The new
rules can be described as CAP (Consistency, Availability,
Partition-tolerance).

Below is a link to a very thoughtful article, not one a busy person could
read through quickly and fully understand but as the article probably took
weeks to write maybe it should take a few days to read.

http://radar.oreilly.com/2012/02/nosql-non-relational-database.html

Jim 


From john at winhaven.net  Thu Feb  9 12:51:57 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:51:57 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] an Interesting demo of HTML 5, CSS3 and WOFF fonts
Message-ID: <008501cce75b$e5f4af00$b1de0d00$@winhaven.net>

Some of you may find this interesting:
http://tinyurl.com/7xgjkpl



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Feb  9 17:00:22 2012
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:00:22 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or a
	technology
In-Reply-To: <B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>,
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F345006.15452.13579D0E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I agree with his first sentence.
<quote>In a conversation last year, Justin Sheehy, CTO of Basho, described NoSQL as a 
movement</quote>

But I'm not sure whether that should be "religious" or "bowel"  :-)

HIs major premise appears to be that  the major RDBMSs haven't changed since the '80s, 
nor apparently has the hardware they are run on and that those '80s systems aren't suitable 
for web applications.

Statements such as "It's a given that any modern application is going to be distributed. " are 
laughable but he builds the rest of the argument on it.

"reassess the way we define data"?
Data are data.  It doesn't need definition.   In essence, you are debating the way to store data 
and the way to retreive it.

ACID and CAP are two different things entirely.. 
It is clear, even in the article that CAP is not a set of rules.  It is a set of trade-offs
It's the data worlds equivalent of the developers "Good, Fast, Cheap - pick any two".

<quote>Since partition tolerance is a fundamental requirement for distributed applications, it 
becomes a question of what to sacrifice: consistency or availability. </quote>

Effectively, he's saying Fast is a fixed requirement, now let's strike the balance between 
Good an Cheap.  :-)

Sorry, I don't buy that either.


-- 
Stuart

On 9 Feb 2012 at 9:15, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> I have read and listened to many articles and even dabbled in (not
> necessarily successfully...yet) in the new world of NoSQL (or more
> accurately Map reduce) type databases.
> 
> These new structures are making us reassess the way we define data. The
> rules of ACID (Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation, Durability) no longer
> apply, at least not in the way we have learned or have been taught. The new
> rules can be described as CAP (Consistency, Availability,
> Partition-tolerance).
> 
> Below is a link to a very thoughtful article, not one a busy person could
> read through quickly and fully understand but as the article probably took
> weeks to write maybe it should take a few days to read.
> 
> http://radar.oreilly.com/2012/02/nosql-non-relational-database.html
> 
> Jim 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Thu Feb  9 17:04:26 2012
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 18:04:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] an Interesting demo of HTML 5, CSS3 and WOFF fonts
In-Reply-To: <008501cce75b$e5f4af00$b1de0d00$@winhaven.net>
References: <008501cce75b$e5f4af00$b1de0d00$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWGAFgEWjebxokuT0RkMFQ-Lq8JstrhR6KudZpmkgRPA9A@mail.gmail.com>

Very cool. Just tried it on my Android phone and it worked. A little slow,
but it still worked.

Its nice when standards work.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
On Feb 9, 2012 1:52 PM, "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> wrote:

> Some of you may find this interesting:
> http://tinyurl.com/7xgjkpl
>
>
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Feb 10 05:26:16 2012
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:26:16 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or a
	technology
In-Reply-To: <B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>,
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

An alternative view:

http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/database-administration/relational-databases-and-solid-state-
memory-an-opportunity-squandered/

<quote>The relational model was devised long before computer hardware was able to deliver 
an RDBMS that could deliver a fully normalized database with no performance deficit. Now, 
with reliable SSDs falling in price, we can reap the benefits, instead of getting distracted by 
NOSQL with its doubtful compromise of 'eventual consistency'.</quote>

-- 
Stuart

On 9 Feb 2012 at 9:15, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> These new structures are making us reassess the way we define data. The
> rules of ACID (Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation, Durability) no longer
> apply, at least not in the way we have learned or have been taught. The new
> rules can be described as CAP (Consistency, Availability,
> Partition-tolerance).
> 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 09:32:38 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:32:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or a
	technology
In-Reply-To: <4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gHgfOxO6R1MG1x-SPVvVcAHwjaU5RChs5neF8Ap4J_gA@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

I couldn't resist quoting your excellent witticism (religious or bowel) on
my blog about this subject. I did take the liberty of calling you my
colleague, which in the Net sense is true. I hope you don't mind.
A.

Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers and
software developers.

-- Arthur Fuller

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 10 10:57:26 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:57:26 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or
	a	technology
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gHgfOxO6R1MG1x-SPVvVcAHwjaU5RChs5neF8Ap4J_gA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<CAEPJO1gHgfOxO6R1MG1x-SPVvVcAHwjaU5RChs5neF8Ap4J_gA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E9F09EB2A8D7435BB1646267B1D95FC2@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Arthur,

Unfortunately, I can not take credit but Stuart is the man. ;-)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 7:33 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or a
technology

Jim,

I couldn't resist quoting your excellent witticism (religious or bowel) on
my blog about this subject. I did take the liberty of calling you my
colleague, which in the Net sense is true. I hope you don't mind.
A.

Only two businesses refer to their clientele as users: drug dealers and
software developers.

-- Arthur Fuller
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 13:29:40 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:29:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or a
	technology
In-Reply-To: <E9F09EB2A8D7435BB1646267B1D95FC2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<CAEPJO1gHgfOxO6R1MG1x-SPVvVcAHwjaU5RChs5neF8Ap4J_gA@mail.gmail.com>
	<E9F09EB2A8D7435BB1646267B1D95FC2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gWhePbuGDO8vwbHX+L3HFd+4gsqB3sTE+JR1m+7XL9HA@mail.gmail.com>

I guess I'd better go edit that page!

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur,
>
> Unfortunately, I can not take credit but Stuart is the man. ;-)
>
> Jim
>
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 10 17:15:03 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:15:03 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or
	a	technology
In-Reply-To: <4F345006.15452.13579D0E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F345006.15452.13579D0E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <842FCF4A687F40E7947B1F66459D5485@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Actually I think you have it right...cheap.

Many fledgling businesses would not exist if it was not for NoSQL DBs.
(Google, Amazon, Facebook come mind.) All the companies started out a garage
or dorm business and have grown into the super companies they now are today.
The only reason they could have started was because of cheap and free Open
Source software with particular emphasis on NoSQL DBs. 

RDBMS industry standard databases are some of the most expensive pieces of
software in the market today. A small company should plan on spending 60K
just to get their foot in the door and that is just the entrance fee. 

I worked under contract as Systems Analysis for a government office for a
while. One of the chief responsibilities was to create a piece of software
that could mange all the division's contracts. When the software was
running, the client could view the initial contracts, all correspondence,
emails, the support teams, the budgets, the invoices etc. It all ran from a
MS Access and VB application. 

But then we ran into problems. The management requested a way be able to
scan a group of contracts for specific information and wording. I was
stuck...a thousand of more lines of code may have been able to assemble
something close to what was required but that was not enough. A group of the
senior systems guys from local Oracle companies were called in (The local
government does not use MS SQL) to see if they could come up with an
answer...they could not. Finally, a little fringe company produced a Oracle
plug-in that could scan the mixed data. The software was something out of a
European lab. That was the first time I ever saw a NoSQL piece of software;
of course I and everyone else had no idea what we were looking at.

Like RDBMS, NoSQL databases have their pluses and minuses. Nothing is a
perfect answer. If all you will ever be working with is Mom and Pop type
businesses don't bother looking any further, stick with standard relational
data bases. If OTOH, you will be working with a growing web business or a
business saving TBs of documents start looking at a mixed solution. 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:00 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or a
technology

I agree with his first sentence.
<quote>In a conversation last year, Justin Sheehy, CTO of Basho, described
NoSQL as a 
movement</quote>

But I'm not sure whether that should be "religious" or "bowel"  :-)

HIs major premise appears to be that  the major RDBMSs haven't changed since
the '80s, 
nor apparently has the hardware they are run on and that those '80s systems
aren't suitable 
for web applications.

Statements such as "It's a given that any modern application is going to be
distributed. " are 
laughable but he builds the rest of the argument on it.

"reassess the way we define data"?
Data are data.  It doesn't need definition.   In essence, you are debating
the way to store data 
and the way to retreive it.

ACID and CAP are two different things entirely.. 
It is clear, even in the article that CAP is not a set of rules.  It is a
set of trade-offs
It's the data worlds equivalent of the developers "Good, Fast, Cheap - pick
any two".

<quote>Since partition tolerance is a fundamental requirement for
distributed applications, it 
becomes a question of what to sacrifice: consistency or availability.
</quote>

Effectively, he's saying Fast is a fixed requirement, now let's strike the
balance between 
Good an Cheap.  :-)

Sorry, I don't buy that either.


-- 
Stuart

On 9 Feb 2012 at 9:15, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> I have read and listened to many articles and even dabbled in (not
> necessarily successfully...yet) in the new world of NoSQL (or more
> accurately Map reduce) type databases.
> 
> These new structures are making us reassess the way we define data. The
> rules of ACID (Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation, Durability) no longer
> apply, at least not in the way we have learned or have been taught. The
new
> rules can be described as CAP (Consistency, Availability,
> Partition-tolerance).
> 
> Below is a link to a very thoughtful article, not one a busy person could
> read through quickly and fully understand but as the article probably took
> weeks to write maybe it should take a few days to read.
> 
> http://radar.oreilly.com/2012/02/nosql-non-relational-database.html
> 
> Jim 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 10 17:46:21 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:46:21 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or
	a	technology
In-Reply-To: <4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <5488B3092C5B4F15BD6641AE28A50F5A@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Stuart:

RDBMS has always been logical and easy to learn. (The concept not
necessarily the application.)

OTOH the NoSQL systems fills a gap in database requirements (Explained in a
previous post).

Recommending banks of SSDs cards to leverage RDBMSs so they will come close
to equaling map-reduce/distributive performance using the current most
expensive solution to give SQL DBs the ability to compete against some
cheapest solutions, seems like madness to me.

I know this fellow in town who is doing some playing in his basement with a
MondoDB(?) distributive database. He literally scavenged a dozen old
computer boxes on the way to the Salvation Army recycling bins and assembled
a pretty fair database system. (Very fast he says.)

It is flaky as all get out and there are a number of issues to resolve but
he is working with discarded junk and he has no idea what he is doing but
that is this month. (His only costs are going to be electricity and grey
hairs.)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:26 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] NoSQL is a movement not so much a choice or a
technology

An alternative view:

http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/database-administration/relational-databases-
and-solid-state-
memory-an-opportunity-squandered/

<quote>The relational model was devised long before computer hardware was
able to deliver 
an RDBMS that could deliver a fully normalized database with no performance
deficit. Now, 
with reliable SSDs falling in price, we can reap the benefits, instead of
getting distracted by 
NOSQL with its doubtful compromise of 'eventual consistency'.</quote>

-- 
Stuart

On 9 Feb 2012 at 9:15, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> These new structures are making us reassess the way we define data. The
> rules of ACID (Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation, Durability) no longer
> apply, at least not in the way we have learned or have been taught. The
new
> rules can be described as CAP (Consistency, Availability,
> Partition-tolerance).
> 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb 11 20:50:29 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:50:29 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Eight features Windows 8 'borrowed' from Linux
In-Reply-To: <5488B3092C5B4F15BD6641AE28A50F5A@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<5488B3092C5B4F15BD6641AE28A50F5A@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <DDEB9621B70E42F08EFCE5B3F12A02D1@creativesystemdesigns.com>

But did Windows do it better? 

There are so many other features that Linux has I would suspect that
Microsoft has found an excellent garden with many years supply of feature to
harvest. 

http://www.itworld.com/open-source/248654/8-best-innovations-windows-8-borro
wed-linux

Jim


From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Tue Feb 14 10:44:39 2012
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff B)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:44:39 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Cross Posted to AccessD, SQL, Tech,
	and VB Lists] Pervasive SQL
Message-ID: <004501cceb37$f32ccd30$d9866790$@gmail.com>

Morning all!

Sorry for the major cross post, but I am desperately looking for someone
that is extremely knowledgeable in Pervasive SQL or Timberline Office and
has a working copy of Pervasive SQL Version 8.

We are trying to phase out Timberline, but our accounting data is still
stored in PSQL.  I need to find someone that can take a copy of our data
files and export to either excel or SQL Server (preferably SQL Server 2008).
This is just a one-time thing (I hope) and would be doing it myself, except
our Timberline install has failed and we are still trying to rebuild it.

Anyone willing to try and help please send an email to:
jbarrows at alertservice.com.  Please include an hourly cost/price so I can
give the Boss some idea of what it will cost.

Thanks in advance!

Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
?
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff.developer at gmail.com




From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 14 12:11:28 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:11:28 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting concept
In-Reply-To: <DDEB9621B70E42F08EFCE5B3F12A02D1@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<5488B3092C5B4F15BD6641AE28A50F5A@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<DDEB9621B70E42F08EFCE5B3F12A02D1@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <85017369DB064AE8AAF6BF4DB177CB98@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Here is an interesting concept. It appears to be doing very well.

http://techshop.ws/

Jim


From john at winhaven.net  Thu Feb 16 00:23:48 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:23:48 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting concept
In-Reply-To: <85017369DB064AE8AAF6BF4DB177CB98@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<5488B3092C5B4F15BD6641AE28A50F5A@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<DDEB9621B70E42F08EFCE5B3F12A02D1@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<85017369DB064AE8AAF6BF4DB177CB98@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <000601ccec73$8b39d8c0$a1ad8a40$@winhaven.net>

Yes, it does. I'll keep this in mind :-)


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:11 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Interesting concept

Here is an interesting concept. It appears to be doing very well.

http://techshop.ws/

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 21 19:19:45 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:19:45 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Privacy on Chrome as well as other browsers
In-Reply-To: <85017369DB064AE8AAF6BF4DB177CB98@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<5488B3092C5B4F15BD6641AE28A50F5A@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<DDEB9621B70E42F08EFCE5B3F12A02D1@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<85017369DB064AE8AAF6BF4DB177CB98@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <FD85A5C3AA134819A85C719D0E3E1C3F@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Google has gone the extra mile to be able to gather information from your
browsers and save your web movements...but they have been very ambitious
(ruthless?) about. See the following details explaining just how far Google
has gone:

<insert>
Google Bypassing User Privacy Settings

Microsoft Corporation

404,807 Recent Achievements 3 3 4 Blogs All-Star Blog Commentator III Blog
Commentator II View Profile Monday, February 20, 2012 10:31 AM Comments 146 
When the IE team heard that Google had bypassed user privacy settings on
Safari, we asked ourselves a simple question: is Google circumventing the
privacy preferences of Internet Explorer users too? We've discovered the
answer is yes: Google is employing similar methods to get around the default
privacy protections in IE and track IE users with cookies. Below we spell
out in more detail what we've discovered, as well as recommendations to IE
users on how to protect their privacy from Google with the use of IE9's
Tracking Protection feature. We've also contacted Google and asked them to
commit to honoring P3P privacy settings for users of all browsers.

We've found that Google bypasses the P3P Privacy Protection feature in IE.
The result is similar to the recent reports of Google's circumvention of
privacy protections in Apple's Safari Web browser, even though the actual
bypass mechanism Google uses is different.

Internet Explorer 9 has an additional privacy feature called Tracking
Protection which is not susceptible to this type of bypass. Microsoft
recommends that customers who want to protect themselves from Google's
bypass of P3P Privacy Protection use Internet Explorer 9 and click here to
add a Tracking Protection List. Customers can find additional lists and
information on this page.

Background: Google Bypassing Apple's Privacy Settings
A recent front page Wall Street Journal article described how Google
"bypassed Apple browser settings for guarding privacy." The editor and CEO
of Business Insider, a business news and analysis site, summarized the
situation:

Google secretly developed a way to circumvent default privacy settings
established by a. competitor, Apple. [and] Google then used the workaround
to drop ad-tracking cookies on the Safari users, which is exactly the sort
of practice that Apple was trying to prevent.

Third-party cookies are a common mechanism used to track what people do
online.  Safari protects its users from being tracked this way by a default
user setting that blocks third-party cookies.  Here's Business Insider's
summary:

What Safari does NOT allow, by default, is for third-party . cookies on
users' computers without their permission. It is these ad-tracking cookies
that cause lots of Internet users to freak out that their privacy is being
violated, so it's understandable that Apple decided to block them by
default.

But these default settings have created a problem for Google, at least with
respect to its goals for its advertising business.

Google's approach to third-party cookies seems to have the side effect of
Safari believing they are first-party cookies.

What Happens in IE
By default, IE blocks third-party cookies unless the site presents a P3P
Compact Policy Statement indicating how the site will use the cookie and
that the site's use does not include tracking the user. Google's P3P policy
causes Internet Explorer to accept Google's cookies even though the policy
does not state Google's intent.

P3P, an official recommendation of the W3C Web standards body, is a Web
technology that all browsers and sites can support. Sites use P3P to
describe how they intend to use cookies and user information. By supporting
P3P, browsers can block or allow cookies to honor user privacy preferences
with respect to the site's stated intentions.

It's worth noting that users cannot easily access P3P policies. Web sites
send these policies directly to Web browsers using HTTP headers. The only
people who see P3P descriptions are technically skilled and use special
tools, like the Cookie inspector in the Fiddler tool. For example, here is
the P3P Compact Policy (CP) statement from Microsoft.com:

P3P: CP="ALL IND DSP COR ADM CONo CUR CUSo IVAo IVDo PSA PSD TAI TELo OUR
SAMo CNT COM INT NAV ONL PHY PRE PUR UNI"

Each token (e.g. ALL, IND) has a specific meaning for a P3P-compliant Web
browser. For example, 'SAMo' indicates that 'We [the site] share information
with Legal entities following our practices,' and 'TAI' indicates
'Information may be used to tailor or modify content or design of the site
where the information is used only for a single visit to the site and not
used for any kind of future customization.' The details of privacy are
complex, and the P3P standard is complex as well. You can read more about
P3P here.

Technically, Google utilizes a nuance in the P3P specification that has the
effect of bypassing user preferences about cookies. The P3P specification
(in an attempt to leave room for future advances in privacy policies) states
that browsers should ignore any undefined policies they encounter. Google
sends a P3P policy that fails to inform the browser about Google's use of
cookies and user information. Google's P3P policy is actually a statement
that it is not a P3P policy. It's intended for humans to read even though
P3P policies are designed for browsers to "read": 

P3P: CP="This is not a P3P policy! See
http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=151657 for
more info."

P3P-compliant browsers interpret Google's policy as indicating that the
cookie will not be used for any tracking purpose or any purpose at all. By
sending this text, Google bypasses the cookie protection and enables its
third-party cookies to be allowed rather than blocked. The P3P specification
("4.2 Compact Policy Vocabulary") calls for IE's implemented behavior when
handling unknown tokens: "If an unrecognized token appears in a compact
policy, the compact policy has the same semantics as if that token was not
present."

Similarly, it's worth noting section "3.2 Policies" from the P3P
specification:

3.2 Policies
In cases where the P3P vocabulary is not precise enough to describe a Web
site's practices, sites should use the vocabulary terms that most closely
match their practices and provide further explanation in the CONSEQUENCE
field and/or their human-readable policy. However, policies MUST NOT make
false or misleading statements.

P3P is designed to support sites that convey their privacy intentions.
Google's use of P3P does not convey those intentions in a manner consistent
with the technology. 

Because of the issues noted above, and the ongoing development of new
mechanisms to track users that do not involve cookies, our focus is on the
new Tracking Protection technology.

Next Steps
After investigating what Google sends to IE, we confirmed what we describe
above. We have made a Tracking Protection List available that IE9 users can
add by clicking here as a protection in the event that Google continues this
practice. Customers can find additional lists and information on this page.

The premise of Tracking Protection in IE9 is that tracking servers never
have the opportunity to use cookies or any other mechanism to track the user
if the user never sends anything to a tracking server. This logic underlies
why Tracking Protection blocks network requests entirely. This new
technology approach is currently undergoing the standardization process at
the W3C.

This blog post has additional information about IE's cookie controls, and
shows how you can block all cookies from a given site (e.g. *.google.com)
regardless of whether they are first- or third-party. This method of
blocking cookies would not be subject to the methods Google used. We
recommend that users not yet running IE9 take steps described in this post.

Given this real-world behavior, we are investigating what additional changes
to make to our products. The P3P specification says that browsers should
ignore unknown tokens. Privacy advocates involved in the original
specification have recently suggested that IE ignore the specification and
block cookies with unrecognized tokens. We are actively investigating that
course of action.

?Dean Hachamovitch, Corporate Vice President, Internet Explorer

</insert>

Jim



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 21 22:01:53 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:01:53 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <FD85A5C3AA134819A85C719D0E3E1C3F@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hUqtgB_JML=bR2A397cyVCah9SKW95bC+8NLxKk2Gonw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FCC513B191204239ACD05139D9C63107@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B4399FF4519D476E8F7EABE4D3F86AAC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F34FED8.22911.1602874B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<5488B3092C5B4F15BD6641AE28A50F5A@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<DDEB9621B70E42F08EFCE5B3F12A02D1@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<85017369DB064AE8AAF6BF4DB177CB98@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<FD85A5C3AA134819A85C719D0E3E1C3F@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <ECA9340413774B01AC41146733C00225@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Raspberry PI is launching in just a few week. For those of you who want to
get ready here is a way you can do so. The OS of the Raspberry is a highly
optimized and compiled version of Fedora Linux which is compiled for the
specific hardware and will not work on another device.

But you can setup a virtual drive on your PC, install Debian Linux and
configure it in a very similar method to how the Raspberry PI will run.
Below is a set of tutorials on how to accomplish this and even how to do
some game programming, on the new computer. It is simple, has a very small
foot-print, can install on any PC with a few Megabytes of room. (These
tutorials are very educational and can be used to train further...)

Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix launches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoSt1VP5kVY

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 1 - An Introduction to Debian Linux
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=28CqDKjtppg

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 2 - Snapshots, VirtualBox Guest Additions & Installing
Packages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=po0FvGRXPmw&feature=endscreen

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 3 - Hello World, Geany and Python
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=SXmYIAGwpe4

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 4 - Coding Style and more Python
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVVLlUb7vhE&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 5 - An introduction to Game Development, PyGame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UeGzh4zAPyY

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 6 - Your first game with PyGame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=h4jgpsB8EbQ

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 7 - Object Oriented Game Programming with Python and
PyGame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=seUxf-AxyzE

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 8 - Finishing off PiShooter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=heZtzABZANU&NR=1

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 9 - Starting Pi Snake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=z0cxLJY1Vzo

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 10 - Feeding PiSnake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEQublWVxmM&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 11 - Snake Segments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XI-3mwhLtY&feature=related

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 12 - A Moving Snake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5PeMTImEkg&feature=related

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 13 - Eating Food
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R18zZkHzDP0&feature=related

Raspberry Pi Tutorial 14 - Snake Collisions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6P9ajDOEcM&feature=related

Have fun
Jim 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 13:20:12 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:20:12 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Binary tetris
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hreOzJ=n3nhzV9-zAS=Y_Nw9LfB_aqFfysDeOGgQn0mg@mail.gmail.com>

Came across a site called 140byt.es, dedicated to programming in 140 bytes.
There's a version of tetris done in a single 140-byte function. It has
limitations,naturally, but it works. Sort of.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/167/3799.html

-- 
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

I am not the only person who uses his computer mainly for the purpose of
diddling with his computer.

-Dave Barry <http://www.quoteland.com/author/Dave-Barry-Quotes/142/>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 22 14:10:44 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:10:44 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Binary tetris
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hreOzJ=n3nhzV9-zAS=Y_Nw9LfB_aqFfysDeOGgQn0mg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hreOzJ=n3nhzV9-zAS=Y_Nw9LfB_aqFfysDeOGgQn0mg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9EDBF67871524441B36CFB42EC8DF899@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Impressive...why 140 bytes?

The vehicle Voyager fired it rockets at exact times, turned its solar panels
to the sun and communication array to earth, converted wide spectrum photos
to binary, had a dozen more detectors running and communicated all this
information back to earth at appropriate times. It had just 64K memory for
storage and programs.

There is something truly eloquent in creating tight code.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:20 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Binary tetris

Came across a site called 140byt.es, dedicated to programming in 140 bytes.
There's a version of tetris done in a single 140-byte function. It has
limitations,naturally, but it works. Sort of.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/167/3799.html

-- 
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

I am not the only person who uses his computer mainly for the purpose of
diddling with his computer.

-Dave Barry <http://www.quoteland.com/author/Dave-Barry-Quotes/142/>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 15:25:08 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:25:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Binary tetris
In-Reply-To: <9EDBF67871524441B36CFB42EC8DF899@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hreOzJ=n3nhzV9-zAS=Y_Nw9LfB_aqFfysDeOGgQn0mg@mail.gmail.com>
	<9EDBF67871524441B36CFB42EC8DF899@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hGgVBzkhwsU5d5HanQ+sPVAZxKKmnThXmX5VCX7Unipg@mail.gmail.com>

LOL! So it fits into a Tweet! Doh!

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Impressive...why 140 bytes?
>
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 22 20:37:07 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:37:07 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Binary tetris
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hGgVBzkhwsU5d5HanQ+sPVAZxKKmnThXmX5VCX7Unipg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hreOzJ=n3nhzV9-zAS=Y_Nw9LfB_aqFfysDeOGgQn0mg@mail.gmail.com><9EDBF67871524441B36CFB42EC8DF899@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<CAEPJO1hGgVBzkhwsU5d5HanQ+sPVAZxKKmnThXmX5VCX7Unipg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <713A3312C4394FDAA9280C78A2F832DD@creativesystemdesigns.com>

I do not twitter so I would not know. ;-)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:25 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Binary tetris

LOL! So it fits into a Tweet! Doh!

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Impressive...why 140 bytes?
>
>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 22:52:44 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:52:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Binary tetris
In-Reply-To: <713A3312C4394FDAA9280C78A2F832DD@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hreOzJ=n3nhzV9-zAS=Y_Nw9LfB_aqFfysDeOGgQn0mg@mail.gmail.com>
	<9EDBF67871524441B36CFB42EC8DF899@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<CAEPJO1hGgVBzkhwsU5d5HanQ+sPVAZxKKmnThXmX5VCX7Unipg@mail.gmail.com>
	<713A3312C4394FDAA9280C78A2F832DD@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hQpjJALmsFFknomoy8nEM900hUPFppZQCMDgTyAh30BQ@mail.gmail.com>

Nor do I, Jim! But I still regard it as a significant coding challenge.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> I do not twitter so I would not know. ;-)
>
> Jim
>
>

From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb 23 05:59:58 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:59:58 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Binary tetris
Message-ID: <sf46386e.026@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Not to mention that this and its sister vehicle still are fully operational. Truly art of engineering.

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 22-02-2012 21:10 >>>
Impressive...why 140 bytes?

The vehicle Voyager fired it rockets at exact times, turned its solar panels
to the sun and communication array to earth, converted wide spectrum photos
to binary, had a dozen more detectors running and communicated all this
information back to earth at appropriate times. It had just 64K memory for
storage and programs.

There is something truly eloquent in creating tight code.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:20 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Binary tetris

Came across a site called 140byt.es, dedicated to programming in 140 bytes.
There's a version of tetris done in a single 140-byte function. It has
limitations,naturally, but it works. Sort of.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/167/3799.html 

-- 
Arthur



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb 27 10:40:27 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:40:27 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
Message-ID: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007>

Dear List(s):
 
I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from machine 1 to
machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see machine 1 from machine 2
although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.  
 
I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - that's
the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe W7 has set
that one up that way.
 
Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files from
machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this incompatibility  between
A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and forth
is becoming more useful.
 
When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but when I
try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have permission to
access..." and tells me to contact my system administrator.  But I'm the
administrator and I'm clueless.  
 
How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
 
MTIA
 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 
www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 
Skype: rocky.smolin
 

From lembit.soobik at weihenstephan.org  Mon Feb 27 11:10:06 2012
From: lembit.soobik at weihenstephan.org (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:10:06 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It 
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from machine 1 
> to
> machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see machine 1 from machine 
> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - that's
> the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe W7 has set
> that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files from
> machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this incompatibility 
> between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and forth
> is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but when 
> I
> try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have permission to
> access..." and tells me to contact my system administrator.  But I'm the
> administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 


From john at winhaven.net  Mon Feb 27 11:39:30 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:39:30 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007>
	<C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>
Message-ID: <01f401ccf576$c27fc040$477f40c0$@winhaven.net>

Yes, I think you are correct Lembit.

With traditional windows peer to peer networking if you set a username and
password to be identical on all machines then share the folders you want
available the sharing becomes transparent. If you have a mix of
Win7/Vista/XP/2k/98/95 then this is the way to go.

If you have all Windows 7 machines the easiest way to go for a home setup is
to use the home networking option. Choose "Home" as the type of network (in
your network connections) and then set up a Home Group. You get a passcode
for the home group. Put that into any piece of (Windows 7 compatible)
equipment that you want to share the material with and everything you
checked is shared through the network as if it's on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from machine 1 
> to
> machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see machine 1 from machine

> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - that's
> the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe W7 has set
> that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files from
> machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this incompatibility 
> between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and forth
> is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but when 
> I
> try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have permission to
> access..." and tells me to contact my system administrator.  But I'm the
> administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb 27 12:33:18 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:33:18 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <01f401ccf576$c27fc040$477f40c0$@winhaven.net>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007><C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>
	<01f401ccf576$c27fc040$477f40c0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <12ADE02E04C448498BF4A3C41EDB0463@HAL9007>

John:

Will that home network/passcode feature still work if one of the machines
already user name and password for login?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Yes, I think you are correct Lembit.

With traditional windows peer to peer networking if you set a username and
password to be identical on all machines then share the folders you want
available the sharing becomes transparent. If you have a mix of
Win7/Vista/XP/2k/98/95 then this is the way to go.

If you have all Windows 7 machines the easiest way to go for a home setup is
to use the home networking option. Choose "Home" as the type of network (in
your network connections) and then set up a Home Group. You get a passcode
for the home group. Put that into any piece of (Windows 7 compatible)
equipment that you want to share the material with and everything you
checked is shared through the network as if it's on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from 
> machine 1 to machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see 
> machine 1 from machine

> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - 
> that's the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe 
> W7 has set that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files 
> from machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this 
> incompatibility between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and 
> forth is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but 
> when I try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have 
> permission to access..." and tells me to contact my system 
> administrator.  But I'm the administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com 
> <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Feb 27 12:46:12 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:46:12 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <12ADE02E04C448498BF4A3C41EDB0463@HAL9007>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007><C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>	<01f401ccf576$c27fc040$477f40c0$@winhaven.net>
	<12ADE02E04C448498BF4A3C41EDB0463@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <021601ccf580$13e78220$3bb68660$@winhaven.net>

I think that if you reset the networking to home then your other network
settings will be invalidated. The user name and password should be
irrelevant though.

What you could do is use the System Recovery to create a recovery point,
change the settings to Home, try them out, and if you're not happy with it
use system restore to go back to your former method.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

John:

Will that home network/passcode feature still work if one of the machines
already user name and password for login?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Yes, I think you are correct Lembit.

With traditional windows peer to peer networking if you set a username and
password to be identical on all machines then share the folders you want
available the sharing becomes transparent. If you have a mix of
Win7/Vista/XP/2k/98/95 then this is the way to go.

If you have all Windows 7 machines the easiest way to go for a home setup is
to use the home networking option. Choose "Home" as the type of network (in
your network connections) and then set up a Home Group. You get a passcode
for the home group. Put that into any piece of (Windows 7 compatible)
equipment that you want to share the material with and everything you
checked is shared through the network as if it's on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from 
> machine 1 to machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see 
> machine 1 from machine

> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - 
> that's the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe
> W7 has set that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files 
> from machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this 
> incompatibility between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and 
> forth is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but 
> when I try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have 
> permission to access..." and tells me to contact my system 
> administrator.  But I'm the administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com 
> <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb 27 13:18:07 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:18:07 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <021601ccf580$13e78220$3bb68660$@winhaven.net>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007><C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>	<01f401ccf576$c27fc040$477f40c0$@winhaven.net><12ADE02E04C448498BF4A3C41EDB0463@HAL9007>
	<021601ccf580$13e78220$3bb68660$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <B09C1E6A2738457D80AECBA992697EDC@HAL9007>

Or I could add a login/password to machine 1?  Might be easier - less
potential problems? 

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

I think that if you reset the networking to home then your other network
settings will be invalidated. The user name and password should be
irrelevant though.

What you could do is use the System Recovery to create a recovery point,
change the settings to Home, try them out, and if you're not happy with it
use system restore to go back to your former method.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

John:

Will that home network/passcode feature still work if one of the machines
already user name and password for login?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Yes, I think you are correct Lembit.

With traditional windows peer to peer networking if you set a username and
password to be identical on all machines then share the folders you want
available the sharing becomes transparent. If you have a mix of
Win7/Vista/XP/2k/98/95 then this is the way to go.

If you have all Windows 7 machines the easiest way to go for a home setup is
to use the home networking option. Choose "Home" as the type of network (in
your network connections) and then set up a Home Group. You get a passcode
for the home group. Put that into any piece of (Windows 7 compatible)
equipment that you want to share the material with and everything you
checked is shared through the network as if it's on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from 
> machine 1 to machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see 
> machine 1 from machine

> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - 
> that's the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe
> W7 has set that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files 
> from machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this 
> incompatibility between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and 
> forth is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but 
> when I try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have 
> permission to access..." and tells me to contact my system 
> administrator.  But I'm the administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com 
> <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Feb 27 13:47:29 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:47:29 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <B09C1E6A2738457D80AECBA992697EDC@HAL9007>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007><C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>	<01f401ccf576$c27fc040$477f40c0$@winhaven.net><12ADE02E04C448498BF4A3C41EDB0463@HAL9007>	<021601ccf580$13e78220$3bb68660$@winhaven.net>
	<B09C1E6A2738457D80AECBA992697EDC@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <023a01ccf588$a3ccd810$eb668830$@winhaven.net>

I'm not sure about any potential problems. More a matter of preference and
environment. Windows 7 Home Group is kind of the "magic" kind of technology
for people that don't want to know about all the details. Somewhat akin to
how the Apple products work together.

I use the password login scheme because I prefer more control over my system
and I have a mix of machines. If Windows 8 is compatible with the Win7 Home
Group scheme I may switch to it at that point. In addition to Win8 of the
PCs, I will be strongly considering a Win8 phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:18 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Or I could add a login/password to machine 1?  Might be easier - less
potential problems? 

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

I think that if you reset the networking to home then your other network
settings will be invalidated. The user name and password should be
irrelevant though.

What you could do is use the System Recovery to create a recovery point,
change the settings to Home, try them out, and if you're not happy with it
use system restore to go back to your former method.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

John:

Will that home network/passcode feature still work if one of the machines
already user name and password for login?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Yes, I think you are correct Lembit.

With traditional windows peer to peer networking if you set a username and
password to be identical on all machines then share the folders you want
available the sharing becomes transparent. If you have a mix of
Win7/Vista/XP/2k/98/95 then this is the way to go.

If you have all Windows 7 machines the easiest way to go for a home setup is
to use the home networking option. Choose "Home" as the type of network (in
your network connections) and then set up a Home Group. You get a passcode
for the home group. Put that into any piece of (Windows 7 compatible)
equipment that you want to share the material with and everything you
checked is shared through the network as if it's on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from 
> machine 1 to machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see 
> machine 1 from machine

> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - 
> that's the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe
> W7 has set that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files 
> from machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this 
> incompatibility between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and 
> forth is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but 
> when I try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have 
> permission to access..." and tells me to contact my system 
> administrator.  But I'm the administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com 
> <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 27 14:20:06 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:20:06 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <B09C1E6A2738457D80AECBA992697EDC@HAL9007>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007><C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>	<01f401ccf576$c27fc040$477f40c0$@winhaven.net><12ADE02E04C448498BF4A3C41EDB0463@HAL9007><021601ccf580$13e78220$3bb68660$@winhaven.net>
	<B09C1E6A2738457D80AECBA992697EDC@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <98C2985278FB4E9398A7A3D5AC00AE65@creativesystemdesigns.com>

...Or you could just set up each computer within your network with remote
desktop checked. If you did decide to use that method, you would have to set
up the sharing (which you have already done), have a login other than the
administrator (this is a requirement for Windows7) and then you could even
have auto-login set. Once this was setup then you could move from station to
station. 

I like this method for sharing files and directories around a network
without a central server, as it works for all version of Windows.  

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:18 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Or I could add a login/password to machine 1?  Might be easier - less
potential problems? 

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

I think that if you reset the networking to home then your other network
settings will be invalidated. The user name and password should be
irrelevant though.

What you could do is use the System Recovery to create a recovery point,
change the settings to Home, try them out, and if you're not happy with it
use system restore to go back to your former method.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

John:

Will that home network/passcode feature still work if one of the machines
already user name and password for login?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Yes, I think you are correct Lembit.

With traditional windows peer to peer networking if you set a username and
password to be identical on all machines then share the folders you want
available the sharing becomes transparent. If you have a mix of
Win7/Vista/XP/2k/98/95 then this is the way to go.

If you have all Windows 7 machines the easiest way to go for a home setup is
to use the home networking option. Choose "Home" as the type of network (in
your network connections) and then set up a Home Group. You get a passcode
for the home group. Put that into any piece of (Windows 7 compatible)
equipment that you want to share the material with and everything you
checked is shared through the network as if it's on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from 
> machine 1 to machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see 
> machine 1 from machine

> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - 
> that's the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe
> W7 has set that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files 
> from machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this 
> incompatibility between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and 
> forth is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but 
> when I try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have 
> permission to access..." and tells me to contact my system 
> administrator.  But I'm the administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com 
> <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb 27 14:52:19 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:52:19 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <023a01ccf588$a3ccd810$eb668830$@winhaven.net>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007><C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>	<01f401ccf576$c27fc040$477f40c0$@winhaven.net><12ADE02E04C448498BF4A3C41EDB0463@HAL9007>	<021601ccf580$13e78220$3bb68660$@winhaven.net><B09C1E6A2738457D80AECBA992697EDC@HAL9007>
	<023a01ccf588$a3ccd810$eb668830$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <92644CB69C6E4A69B3133A9EC5F4BE52@HAL9007>

OK - password it is. :)

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:47 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

I'm not sure about any potential problems. More a matter of preference and
environment. Windows 7 Home Group is kind of the "magic" kind of technology
for people that don't want to know about all the details. Somewhat akin to
how the Apple products work together.

I use the password login scheme because I prefer more control over my system
and I have a mix of machines. If Windows 8 is compatible with the Win7 Home
Group scheme I may switch to it at that point. In addition to Win8 of the
PCs, I will be strongly considering a Win8 phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:18 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Or I could add a login/password to machine 1?  Might be easier - less
potential problems? 

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

I think that if you reset the networking to home then your other network
settings will be invalidated. The user name and password should be
irrelevant though.

What you could do is use the System Recovery to create a recovery point,
change the settings to Home, try them out, and if you're not happy with it
use system restore to go back to your former method.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

John:

Will that home network/passcode feature still work if one of the machines
already user name and password for login?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Yes, I think you are correct Lembit.

With traditional windows peer to peer networking if you set a username and
password to be identical on all machines then share the folders you want
available the sharing becomes transparent. If you have a mix of
Win7/Vista/XP/2k/98/95 then this is the way to go.

If you have all Windows 7 machines the easiest way to go for a home setup is
to use the home networking option. Choose "Home" as the type of network (in
your network connections) and then set up a Home Group. You get a passcode
for the home group. Put that into any piece of (Windows 7 compatible)
equipment that you want to share the material with and everything you
checked is shared through the network as if it's on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from 
> machine 1 to machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see 
> machine 1 from machine

> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - 
> that's the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe
> W7 has set that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files 
> from machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this 
> incompatibility between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and 
> forth is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but 
> when I try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have 
> permission to access..." and tells me to contact my system 
> administrator.  But I'm the administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com 
> <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb 27 16:42:14 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:42:14 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007>
	<C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>
Message-ID: <C49BD81E88444566A17D474E23A03CFE@HAL9007>

Machine 2 has a password but Machine 1 does not.   When prompted I use
Admin/Admin.

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from machine 1 
> to
> machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see machine 1 from machine

> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - that's
> the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe W7 has set
> that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files from
> machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this incompatibility 
> between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and forth
> is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but when 
> I
> try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have permission to
> access..." and tells me to contact my system administrator.  But I'm the
> administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 17:24:11 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:24:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to format HDs in Win7?
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i6QWNENgzzi4pjq1gi3vax6Ak6V8O6+WUMUzDhyi7qqw@mail.gmail.com>

This is stupid! This should be as simple as Right-Click the drive and
select Format, but not so! I just bought a 1TB HD and have backed up
everything to it but now I cannot re-format my HDs! WTF!? I just want to
reformat all and then re-install everything. Why is this so forking
complicated?


-- 
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 27 18:00:12 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:00:12 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <C49BD81E88444566A17D474E23A03CFE@HAL9007>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007><C0F31AAC8EEA4AADBDEE73B103A39979@OfficePgm>
	<C49BD81E88444566A17D474E23A03CFE@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <1F47FA59062940589872E6E38EE57F6F@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Actually, all Windows 7 installs have a password and username. Many times it
is just the default or it can be automated so it does not prompt...but all
remote and share accessing still requires a username and password entered.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:42 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Machine 2 has a password but Machine 1 does not.   When prompted I use
Admin/Admin.

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:10 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Rocky,
Do you have a password set on both machines? IIRC, you need this in W7. It
won't allow connection to a machine without password.

Lembit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions


> Dear List(s):
>
> I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from machine 1 
> to
> machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see machine 1 from machine

> 2
> although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.
>
> I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - that's
> the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe W7 has set
> that one up that way.
>
> Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files from
> machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this incompatibility 
> between
> A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and forth
> is becoming more useful.
>
> When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but when 
> I
> try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have permission to
> access..." and tells me to contact my system administrator.  But I'm the
> administrator and I'm clueless.
>
> How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 27 18:15:52 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:15:52 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to format HDs in Win7?
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i6QWNENgzzi4pjq1gi3vax6Ak6V8O6+WUMUzDhyi7qqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1i6QWNENgzzi4pjq1gi3vax6Ak6V8O6+WUMUzDhyi7qqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <30FCEB247EBE4B2D9E83B966FF2AE590@creativesystemdesigns.com>

You are not trying to format the drive you are on? ...especially from
Windows and it being the C drive. Is the drive, you want to format something
other than the primary drive?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 3:24 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to format HDs in Win7?

This is stupid! This should be as simple as Right-Click the drive and
select Format, but not so! I just bought a 1TB HD and have backed up
everything to it but now I cannot re-format my HDs! WTF!? I just want to
reformat all and then re-install everything. Why is this so forking
complicated?


-- 
Arthur
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  -- Niels Bohr
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Mon Feb 27 22:49:51 2012
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:49:51 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
In-Reply-To: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>
Message-ID: <00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net>

Back in December, I posted the problem below. The problem still hasn't been
resolved. I have a similar problem with a specific spreadsheet. Maybe if we
can solve that one, I can try the solution with the folders.

I had a spreadsheet that I no longer use. I have been trying to get rid of
it, and its accompanying desktop shortcut for months. I've found a few
things on the web, but mostly they have to do with virus or malware issues,
neither of which are the case for me (I use Malwarebytes and Avast). I have
even gone into safe mode to delete them (including emptying the recycle bin)
and within a day, they are back. I've deleted other spreadsheets without
this happening, so I can't figure out why this particular one is a problem.
I didn't even have much of anything in it, just a few days of keeping track
of time for a client. It's an Excel, in case that makes a difference (most
of my spreadsheets are QuattroPro).

On the Tech Support Guy Mailing List, someone recommended
http://eraser.heidi.ie/ but that didn't work either. The file stayed gone
for about 2 reboots, but it was back again this morning. I've just tried
renaming it, without deleting it, to test if it comes back with the old
name.

Any more ideas?

Kathryn


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:20 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
> 
> I am pulling my hair out over this. I have folders such as this:
> C:\Fr4\Noel
> C:\Fr4\NoelLivingstone
> C:\Fr4\oconner
> 
> I can't seem to get rid of them. First, I was just deleting them. But I
> eventually noticed that they'd come back. Tried a number of times
> before starting to research it. The common issues seem to involve
> dropbox or folders that are shared. I don't have dropbox, and the
> folders aren't shared. One place that I found suggested "copy" the name
> of the folder, delete it, then make a new folder, pasting the name in.
> Then empty recycle bin and reboot, then delete the now empty folder. I
> did that for about 1/2 dozen folders and it worked. Those are now gone
> and haven't returned. So I started doing the rest of them (20 more).
> But it's not working for those.
> 
> I've even done these steps ONLY. IOW, boot up, do that routine, empty
> the recycle bin, then reboot. Not running any other programs like email
> etc.
> 
> On the Tech Support Guy List Tech Support Guy List
> (http://www.techguy.org) which is not very active, one person asked,
> and I answered:
> 
> > 1. What operating system?
> 
> Vista - sorry, I thought I had put that down.
> 
> > 2. Has this computer ever had Nortons on it? Nortons does weird
> things
> > with its "protected" recycle bin. Even after Nortons has been
> > uninstalled, it can leave some of these strange remnants behind.
> 
> Only long enough to get the computer home when I bought it (2007).
> Uninstalled immediately (I hate Norton), then went through the registry
> and deleted Norton references. So, in effect, no.
> 
> > 4. Try right-click "delete on boot". This is included in several free
> > utilities such as Gipo Utilities, which will add this useful line to
> > your right-click menu.
> 
> While looking to see if I had this option, I discovered something. The
> entire Fr4 folder was read only. I've changed that, and will see if
> that works. If not:
> 
> > 3. What happens if you delete in Safe Mode?
> 
> Hmm, haven't thought to try that. After I get this email off, I'll try
> that if changing the read only option doesn't work (no idea how it got
> that way).
> 
> > 5. I assume that normal folders delete OK, and that this is
> associated
> > only with your "FR4 folders". Does FR4 mean anything---associated
> with
> > any particular program which might be protecting these folders? In
> W7,
> > for example, this type of behaviour can be associated with protected
> > system folders/files.
> 
> Yes and yes. FR4 is an old dos genealogy program (Family Roots version
> 4).
> I'm the only person in the world still providing support for it,
> getting the data into a format that can be imported to a windows
> genealogy program. No, it doesn't protect, and I've deleted client
> subfolders before, which makes the current behavior all the more
> puzzling.
> 
> Where I'm at now:
> 
> Safe mode and the read only part didn't do the trick, except
> temporarily. I changed C:\Fr4 to C:\Fr4b. Then I made a new folder
> C:\FR4 (the r being upper case) and dragged the things I need to keep
> into it. A reboot (last
> night) showed only the items I want in C:\FR4, and just the subfolders
> I don't want in C:\Fr4b. I couldn't do any more reboot testing last
> night, but I had deleted the subfolders from C:\Fr4b, leaving it empty.
> 
> I only did one other thing before shutting down for the night, which
> I'll explain in a minute. Then this morning, they are back again in
> C:\FR4. The folder has to have that name, I can't use C:\FR4b, but even
> if I could, that wouldn't solve the problem of C:\FR4 adding itself
> back in.
> 
> The one other thing is my nightly backup. I use SecondCopy to do "Exact
> copy, source to destination, delete obsolete files from destination"
> and these are the 3 "profiles" I use:
> C:\Users\Kathryn\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook to
> I:\Vistamydocs\OutlookMail
> C:\Users\Kathryn\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
> to C:\Users\Kathryn\Documents\OutlookMail
> C:\Users\Kathryn\Documents (& subdirectories) to I:\Vistamydocs
> 
> As you see, nothing to do with C:\FR4.
> 
> Anybody got any ideas why this is happening and how I get rid of the
> subfolders I don't want?
> 
> Kathryn
> 
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 01:35:34 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 02:35:34 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to format HDs in Win7?
In-Reply-To: <30FCEB247EBE4B2D9E83B966FF2AE590@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1i6QWNENgzzi4pjq1gi3vax6Ak6V8O6+WUMUzDhyi7qqw@mail.gmail.com>
	<30FCEB247EBE4B2D9E83B966FF2AE590@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gEua5gRGzc3iqr5QCZjuk7G6qWwdjL6VnR1n8CrM7VQA@mail.gmail.com>

Figured it out. Everything is now reformatted and previously backed up on
my 1TB external drive. Re-installing everything bit by bit. System is once
again snappy! Happy now. Thanks.
A.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> You are not trying to format the drive you are on? ...especially from
> Windows and it being the C drive. Is the drive, you want to format
> something
> other than the primary drive?
>
> Jim
>
>

From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 09:28:19 2012
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:28:19 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
In-Reply-To: <00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>
	<00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pKOK9eg7Kf75_KPvTjEH68=JamWi_YSSg_UNGeUTNYYKw@mail.gmail.com>

Well it seems to me that it's not the deletion process itself that is
the problem if you are able to delete the files/folders. SOMETHING
ELSE is putting them back..... Do you have any other background
protection software running?

GK

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Kathryn Bassett <kathryn at bassett.net> wrote:
> Back in December, I posted the problem below. The problem still hasn't been
> resolved. I have a similar problem with a specific spreadsheet. Maybe if we
> can solve that one, I can try the solution with the folders.
>
> I had a spreadsheet that I no longer use. I have been trying to get rid of
> it, and its accompanying desktop shortcut for months. I've found a few
> things on the web, but mostly they have to do with virus or malware issues,
> neither of which are the case for me (I use Malwarebytes and Avast). I have
> even gone into safe mode to delete them (including emptying the recycle bin)
> and within a day, they are back. I've deleted other spreadsheets without
> this happening, so I can't figure out why this particular one is a problem.
> I didn't even have much of anything in it, just a few days of keeping track
> of time for a client. It's an Excel, in case that makes a difference (most
> of my spreadsheets are QuattroPro).
>
> On the Tech Support Guy Mailing List, someone recommended
> http://eraser.heidi.ie/ but that didn't work either. The file stayed gone
> for about 2 reboots, but it was back again this morning. I've just tried
> renaming it, without deleting it, to test if it comes back with the old
> name.
>
> Any more ideas?
>
> Kathryn
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-
>> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:20 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
>>
>> I am pulling my hair out over this. I have folders such as this:
>> C:\Fr4\Noel
>> C:\Fr4\NoelLivingstone
>> C:\Fr4\oconner
>>
>> I can't seem to get rid of them. First, I was just deleting them. But I
>> eventually noticed that they'd come back. Tried a number of times
>> before starting to research it. The common issues seem to involve
>> dropbox or folders that are shared. I don't have dropbox, and the
>> folders aren't shared. One place that I found suggested "copy" the name
>> of the folder, delete it, then make a new folder, pasting the name in.
>> Then empty recycle bin and reboot, then delete the now empty folder. I
>> did that for about 1/2 dozen folders and it worked. Those are now gone
>> and haven't returned. So I started doing the rest of them (20 more).
>> But it's not working for those.
>>
>> I've even done these steps ONLY. IOW, boot up, do that routine, empty
>> the recycle bin, then reboot. Not running any other programs like email
>> etc.
>>
>> On the Tech Support Guy List Tech Support Guy List
>> (http://www.techguy.org) which is not very active, one person asked,
>> and I answered:
>>
>> > 1. What operating system?
>>
>> Vista - sorry, I thought I had put that down.
>>
>> > 2. Has this computer ever had Nortons on it? Nortons does weird
>> things
>> > with its "protected" recycle bin. Even after Nortons has been
>> > uninstalled, it can leave some of these strange remnants behind.
>>
>> Only long enough to get the computer home when I bought it (2007).
>> Uninstalled immediately (I hate Norton), then went through the registry
>> and deleted Norton references. So, in effect, no.
>>
>> > 4. Try right-click "delete on boot". This is included in several free
>> > utilities such as Gipo Utilities, which will add this useful line to
>> > your right-click menu.
>>
>> While looking to see if I had this option, I discovered something. The
>> entire Fr4 folder was read only. I've changed that, and will see if
>> that works. If not:
>>
>> > 3. What happens if you delete in Safe Mode?
>>
>> Hmm, haven't thought to try that. After I get this email off, I'll try
>> that if changing the read only option doesn't work (no idea how it got
>> that way).
>>
>> > 5. I assume that normal folders delete OK, and that this is
>> associated
>> > only with your "FR4 folders". Does FR4 mean anything---associated
>> with
>> > any particular program which might be protecting these folders? In
>> W7,
>> > for example, this type of behaviour can be associated with protected
>> > system folders/files.
>>
>> Yes and yes. FR4 is an old dos genealogy program (Family Roots version
>> 4).
>> I'm the only person in the world still providing support for it,
>> getting the data into a format that can be imported to a windows
>> genealogy program. No, it doesn't protect, and I've deleted client
>> subfolders before, which makes the current behavior all the more
>> puzzling.
>>
>> Where I'm at now:
>>
>> Safe mode and the read only part didn't do the trick, except
>> temporarily. I changed C:\Fr4 to C:\Fr4b. Then I made a new folder
>> C:\FR4 (the r being upper case) and dragged the things I need to keep
>> into it. A reboot (last
>> night) showed only the items I want in C:\FR4, and just the subfolders
>> I don't want in C:\Fr4b. I couldn't do any more reboot testing last
>> night, but I had deleted the subfolders from C:\Fr4b, leaving it empty.
>>
>> I only did one other thing before shutting down for the night, which
>> I'll explain in a minute. Then this morning, they are back again in
>> C:\FR4. The folder has to have that name, I can't use C:\FR4b, but even
>> if I could, that wouldn't solve the problem of C:\FR4 adding itself
>> back in.
>>
>> The one other thing is my nightly backup. I use SecondCopy to do "Exact
>> copy, source to destination, delete obsolete files from destination"
>> and these are the 3 "profiles" I use:
>> C:\Users\Kathryn\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook to
>> I:\Vistamydocs\OutlookMail
>> C:\Users\Kathryn\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
>> to C:\Users\Kathryn\Documents\OutlookMail
>> C:\Users\Kathryn\Documents (& subdirectories) to I:\Vistamydocs
>>
>> As you see, nothing to do with C:\FR4.
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas why this is happening and how I get rid of the
>> subfolders I don't want?
>>
>> Kathryn
>>
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-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Feb 28 10:44:56 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:44:56 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast problem
Message-ID: <F87B6B423D954E099EE17E42A8446A4C@HAL9007>

Well, we had a 1.5 second power outage yesterday - one of the four rainy
days per year allowed by local ordinance.  Machine wouldn't reboot - Dell
fixed it by updating the BIOS - apparently something got hosed in there when
the power failed.
 
But I cannot get Avast (free version) restarted.  Starting the interface in
the Current Status tab it says "Unsecured" .  The FIX NOW button doesn't do
anything after a bit of cogitating. There's another message under that "The
avast! program has been stopped or is in an inconsistent state...", etc.
with a link to 'Start Program'.  Same result - bit of wheel spinning and
still not started.
 
So I figure I'll just uninstall it, download the latest release, and
reinstall.  But no soap.  Can't uninstall. I get an avast! Setup Fatal Error
"Error reading product data from "C:\Program Files\AVAST
Software\AVAST\setup". Setup cannot continue."
 
I tried their aswclear.exe program but no soap there.
 
So now I'm stumped.  Any ideas short of deleting the folder and combing
through the registry for avast entries and keeping fingers crossed?
 
MTIA
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 
www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 
Skype: rocky.smolin
 
 
 

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Feb 28 10:54:29 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:54:29 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast problem
In-Reply-To: <F87B6B423D954E099EE17E42A8446A4C@HAL9007>
References: <F87B6B423D954E099EE17E42A8446A4C@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <AFE3221A37BF4F6490093D1A14F20646@HAL9007>

Well running avast's clear utility in safe mode seems to have deleted it.
Reinstalling now, so the problem may be solved.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:45 AM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast problem

Well, we had a 1.5 second power outage yesterday - one of the four rainy
days per year allowed by local ordinance.  Machine wouldn't reboot - Dell
fixed it by updating the BIOS - apparently something got hosed in there when
the power failed.
 
But I cannot get Avast (free version) restarted.  Starting the interface in
the Current Status tab it says "Unsecured" .  The FIX NOW button doesn't do
anything after a bit of cogitating. There's another message under that "The
avast! program has been stopped or is in an inconsistent state...", etc.
with a link to 'Start Program'.  Same result - bit of wheel spinning and
still not started.
 
So I figure I'll just uninstall it, download the latest release, and
reinstall.  But no soap.  Can't uninstall. I get an avast! Setup Fatal Error
"Error reading product data from "C:\Program Files\AVAST
Software\AVAST\setup". Setup cannot continue."
 
I tried their aswclear.exe program but no soap there.
 
So now I'm stumped.  Any ideas short of deleting the folder and combing
through the registry for avast entries and keeping fingers crossed?
 
MTIA
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com
<http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
Skype: rocky.smolin
 
 
 
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Feb 28 10:56:01 2012
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (b heygood)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:56:01 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions
In-Reply-To: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007>
References: <68E07F8F033041D0B746ED90B5ADC2AF@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <3DD2E6E6BC044B4999646B963303C192@Seven>

Boy I sure hope it is something as simple as a password.
I have received the same message for months now when I try to use one of the
mapped drives I have setup in Win 7.
Same, same; I am the only user and have admin privileges.
Used to do this all the time w W98 - WVista.
Really makes it easy to replicate a client's system.
This is all on one machine.

Bob Heygood  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:40 AM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] W7 Permissions

Dear List(s):
 
I have two machines in my LAN running W7. I can push files from machine 1 to
machine 2 and pull files as well.  But I cannot see machine 1 from machine 2
although all drives on both systems' drives are shared.  
 
I can see and access the folder Users on Machine 1 from Machine 2 - that's
the only one I can see - but that's the public folder and maybe W7 has set
that one up that way.
 
Machine 2 is my backup box so mostly I'm dragging and dropping files from
machine 1 to machine 2.  But I have to resolve this incompatibility  between
A2003 and A20210 and machine 2 is my 2010 test bed.  So now back and forth
is becoming more useful.
 
When I display machine 1 on machine 2 I see the Drive C (shared) but when I
try to open it up I get the usual message 'You do not have permission to
access..." and tells me to contact my system administrator.  But I'm the
administrator and I'm clueless.  
 
How do I get machine 1 to allow access from machine 2?
 
MTIA
 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com
<http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
Skype: rocky.smolin
 
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Feb 28 11:42:03 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:42:03 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast problem
In-Reply-To: <AFE3221A37BF4F6490093D1A14F20646@HAL9007>
References: <F87B6B423D954E099EE17E42A8446A4C@HAL9007>
	<AFE3221A37BF4F6490093D1A14F20646@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <00ce01ccf640$4873a4e0$d95aeea0$@winhaven.net>

Safe Mode is sweet

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:54 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avast problem

Well running avast's clear utility in safe mode seems to have deleted it.
Reinstalling now, so the problem may be solved.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:45 AM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast problem

Well, we had a 1.5 second power outage yesterday - one of the four rainy
days per year allowed by local ordinance.  Machine wouldn't reboot - Dell
fixed it by updating the BIOS - apparently something got hosed in there when
the power failed.
 
But I cannot get Avast (free version) restarted.  Starting the interface in
the Current Status tab it says "Unsecured" .  The FIX NOW button doesn't do
anything after a bit of cogitating. There's another message under that "The
avast! program has been stopped or is in an inconsistent state...", etc.
with a link to 'Start Program'.  Same result - bit of wheel spinning and
still not started.
 
So I figure I'll just uninstall it, download the latest release, and
reinstall.  But no soap.  Can't uninstall. I get an avast! Setup Fatal Error
"Error reading product data from "C:\Program Files\AVAST
Software\AVAST\setup". Setup cannot continue."
 
I tried their aswclear.exe program but no soap there.
 
So now I'm stumped.  Any ideas short of deleting the folder and combing
through the registry for avast entries and keeping fingers crossed?
 
MTIA
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com
<http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
Skype: rocky.smolin
 
 
 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 28 12:22:14 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:22:14 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
In-Reply-To: <00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>
	<00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net>
Message-ID: <FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com>

It looks like you may have had a Trojan on your system at one point but it
was removed, at least most of it.

Somewhere in your system an application is set to run automatically. It can
be in your startup folder, in the paths, in your ini files, your boot files
and in your registry. 

It will take a bit of detective work but you can start with the app
"msconfig" for listing the most common start up locations. Some techs
suggest to turn off all your startup applications and then slowly introduce
them back one at a time. 

After that you have to follow each application from its start to finish. One
of the most common and simplest methods to hide an application, is to name
it like a real existing app and just dump in the path (check your
paths...you can Google each file and get the its legitimacy, default size
and location). You will have to check not only the applications but their
locations as well. Then there is the 'AT' command that is the core to your
scheduler and it is easy to add a simple app to run at certain times. Off
the top I would expect that one of your legitimate application was
compromised along the way and now when it is run it always sets the registry
to run-once some small app made up of no more than a couple of lines of
script.

Have you tried to run MS Essentials as it may find a innocuous batch or
command file that is not even deemed as dangerous by other malware
detectors?

HTH
Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:50 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

Back in December, I posted the problem below. The problem still hasn't been
resolved. I have a similar problem with a specific spreadsheet. Maybe if we
can solve that one, I can try the solution with the folders.

I had a spreadsheet that I no longer use. I have been trying to get rid of
it, and its accompanying desktop shortcut for months. I've found a few
things on the web, but mostly they have to do with virus or malware issues,
neither of which are the case for me (I use Malwarebytes and Avast). I have
even gone into safe mode to delete them (including emptying the recycle bin)
and within a day, they are back. I've deleted other spreadsheets without
this happening, so I can't figure out why this particular one is a problem.
I didn't even have much of anything in it, just a few days of keeping track
of time for a client. It's an Excel, in case that makes a difference (most
of my spreadsheets are QuattroPro).

On the Tech Support Guy Mailing List, someone recommended
http://eraser.heidi.ie/ but that didn't work either. The file stayed gone
for about 2 reboots, but it was back again this morning. I've just tried
renaming it, without deleting it, to test if it comes back with the old
name.

Any more ideas?

Kathryn


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:20 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
> 
> I am pulling my hair out over this. I have folders such as this:
> C:\Fr4\Noel
> C:\Fr4\NoelLivingstone
> C:\Fr4\oconner
> 
> I can't seem to get rid of them. First, I was just deleting them. But I
> eventually noticed that they'd come back. Tried a number of times
> before starting to research it. The common issues seem to involve
> dropbox or folders that are shared. I don't have dropbox, and the
> folders aren't shared. One place that I found suggested "copy" the name
> of the folder, delete it, then make a new folder, pasting the name in.
> Then empty recycle bin and reboot, then delete the now empty folder. I
> did that for about 1/2 dozen folders and it worked. Those are now gone
> and haven't returned. So I started doing the rest of them (20 more).
> But it's not working for those.
> 
> I've even done these steps ONLY. IOW, boot up, do that routine, empty
> the recycle bin, then reboot. Not running any other programs like email
> etc.
> 
> On the Tech Support Guy List Tech Support Guy List
> (http://www.techguy.org) which is not very active, one person asked,
> and I answered:
> 
> > 1. What operating system?
> 
> Vista - sorry, I thought I had put that down.
> 
> > 2. Has this computer ever had Nortons on it? Nortons does weird
> things
> > with its "protected" recycle bin. Even after Nortons has been
> > uninstalled, it can leave some of these strange remnants behind.
> 
> Only long enough to get the computer home when I bought it (2007).
> Uninstalled immediately (I hate Norton), then went through the registry
> and deleted Norton references. So, in effect, no.
> 
> > 4. Try right-click "delete on boot". This is included in several free
> > utilities such as Gipo Utilities, which will add this useful line to
> > your right-click menu.
> 
> While looking to see if I had this option, I discovered something. The
> entire Fr4 folder was read only. I've changed that, and will see if
> that works. If not:
> 
> > 3. What happens if you delete in Safe Mode?
> 
> Hmm, haven't thought to try that. After I get this email off, I'll try
> that if changing the read only option doesn't work (no idea how it got
> that way).
> 
> > 5. I assume that normal folders delete OK, and that this is
> associated
> > only with your "FR4 folders". Does FR4 mean anything---associated
> with
> > any particular program which might be protecting these folders? In
> W7,
> > for example, this type of behaviour can be associated with protected
> > system folders/files.
> 
> Yes and yes. FR4 is an old dos genealogy program (Family Roots version
> 4).
> I'm the only person in the world still providing support for it,
> getting the data into a format that can be imported to a windows
> genealogy program. No, it doesn't protect, and I've deleted client
> subfolders before, which makes the current behavior all the more
> puzzling.
> 
> Where I'm at now:
> 
> Safe mode and the read only part didn't do the trick, except
> temporarily. I changed C:\Fr4 to C:\Fr4b. Then I made a new folder
> C:\FR4 (the r being upper case) and dragged the things I need to keep
> into it. A reboot (last
> night) showed only the items I want in C:\FR4, and just the subfolders
> I don't want in C:\Fr4b. I couldn't do any more reboot testing last
> night, but I had deleted the subfolders from C:\Fr4b, leaving it empty.
> 
> I only did one other thing before shutting down for the night, which
> I'll explain in a minute. Then this morning, they are back again in
> C:\FR4. The folder has to have that name, I can't use C:\FR4b, but even
> if I could, that wouldn't solve the problem of C:\FR4 adding itself
> back in.
> 
> The one other thing is my nightly backup. I use SecondCopy to do "Exact
> copy, source to destination, delete obsolete files from destination"
> and these are the 3 "profiles" I use:
> C:\Users\Kathryn\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook to
> I:\Vistamydocs\OutlookMail
> C:\Users\Kathryn\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
> to C:\Users\Kathryn\Documents\OutlookMail
> C:\Users\Kathryn\Documents (& subdirectories) to I:\Vistamydocs
> 
> As you see, nothing to do with C:\FR4.
> 
> Anybody got any ideas why this is happening and how I get rid of the
> subfolders I don't want?
> 
> Kathryn
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 28 12:23:25 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:23:25 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to format HDs in Win7?
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gEua5gRGzc3iqr5QCZjuk7G6qWwdjL6VnR1n8CrM7VQA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1i6QWNENgzzi4pjq1gi3vax6Ak6V8O6+WUMUzDhyi7qqw@mail.gmail.com><30FCEB247EBE4B2D9E83B966FF2AE590@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<CAEPJO1gEua5gRGzc3iqr5QCZjuk7G6qWwdjL6VnR1n8CrM7VQA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4EF6CA8CA3E40518D6E5A7CBC1F2AF1@creativesystemdesigns.com>

So what was it, Arthur? ;-)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:36 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to format HDs in Win7?

Figured it out. Everything is now reformatted and previously backed up on
my 1TB external drive. Re-installing everything bit by bit. System is once
again snappy! Happy now. Thanks.
A.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> You are not trying to format the drive you are on? ...especially from
> Windows and it being the C drive. Is the drive, you want to format
> something
> other than the primary drive?
>
> Jim
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 28 12:30:38 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:30:38 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast problem
In-Reply-To: <F87B6B423D954E099EE17E42A8446A4C@HAL9007>
References: <F87B6B423D954E099EE17E42A8446A4C@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <26FD0377496343DF91A222032AB9CB6B@creativesystemdesigns.com>

It sounds like Avast got wacked in the middle of a process and one of its
important files was left in a open state. Just like it happens to Outlook or
even Access. The trouble is that it appears that Avast does not have a
enough code to fix itself. 

That leaves only one choice, de-install and re-install.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:45 AM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast problem

Well, we had a 1.5 second power outage yesterday - one of the four rainy
days per year allowed by local ordinance.  Machine wouldn't reboot - Dell
fixed it by updating the BIOS - apparently something got hosed in there when
the power failed.
 
But I cannot get Avast (free version) restarted.  Starting the interface in
the Current Status tab it says "Unsecured" .  The FIX NOW button doesn't do
anything after a bit of cogitating. There's another message under that "The
avast! program has been stopped or is in an inconsistent state...", etc.
with a link to 'Start Program'.  Same result - bit of wheel spinning and
still not started.
 
So I figure I'll just uninstall it, download the latest release, and
reinstall.  But no soap.  Can't uninstall. I get an avast! Setup Fatal Error
"Error reading product data from "C:\Program Files\AVAST
Software\AVAST\setup". Setup cannot continue."
 
I tried their aswclear.exe program but no soap there.
 
So now I'm stumped.  Any ideas short of deleting the folder and combing
through the registry for avast entries and keeping fingers crossed?
 
MTIA
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 
www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 
Skype: rocky.smolin
 
 
 
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Feb 28 12:59:39 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:59:39 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
In-Reply-To: <FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>	<00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net>
	<FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <00fe01ccf64b$1f941400$5ebc3c00$@winhaven.net>

LOL Jim!

That's what I just got done writing to her :-)

Difference is that I never bother with MSconfig or third party startup
managers. They don't show enough. I always use Autoruns.

Your reference to a leftover piece of a Trojan is a good point.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:22 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

[---] ...Some techs suggest to turn off all your startup applications and
then slowly introduce them back one at a time. 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 28 13:51:34 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:51:34 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
In-Reply-To: <00fe01ccf64b$1f941400$5ebc3c00$@winhaven.net>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>	<00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net><FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<00fe01ccf64b$1f941400$5ebc3c00$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <84A16B5098B64EBFAB0F98893033B0AA@creativesystemdesigns.com>

"Autoruns" that's new to me. Thanks John, I can always use another good
tool.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

LOL Jim!

That's what I just got done writing to her :-)

Difference is that I never bother with MSconfig or third party startup
managers. They don't show enough. I always use Autoruns.

Your reference to a leftover piece of a Trojan is a good point.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:22 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

[---] ...Some techs suggest to turn off all your startup applications and
then slowly introduce them back one at a time. 

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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Feb 28 14:22:08 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:22:08 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
In-Reply-To: <84A16B5098B64EBFAB0F98893033B0AA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>	<00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net><FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<00fe01ccf64b$1f941400$5ebc3c00$@winhaven.net>
	<84A16B5098B64EBFAB0F98893033B0AA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <011901ccf656$a5a07b00$f0e17100$@winhaven.net>

Jim,
That's SysInternals (now Microsoft) bootup manager. I use that and their
Process Explorer a lot. (Both have gotten recently.)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:52 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

"Autoruns" that's new to me. Thanks John, I can always use another good
tool.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

LOL Jim!

That's what I just got done writing to her :-)

Difference is that I never bother with MSconfig or third party startup
managers. They don't show enough. I always use Autoruns.

Your reference to a leftover piece of a Trojan is a good point.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:22 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

[---] ...Some techs suggest to turn off all your startup applications and
then slowly introduce them back one at a time. 

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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Feb 28 16:04:31 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:04:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders
In-Reply-To: <011901ccf656$a5a07b00$f0e17100$@winhaven.net>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>	<00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net><FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<00fe01ccf64b$1f941400$5ebc3c00$@winhaven.net>	<84A16B5098B64EBFAB0F98893033B0AA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<011901ccf656$a5a07b00$f0e17100$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <013501ccf664$f2ac91a0$d805b4e0$@winhaven.net>

Oops - both have gotten UPDATED recently.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

Jim,
That's SysInternals (now Microsoft) bootup manager. I use that and their
Process Explorer a lot. (Both have gotten recently.)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:52 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

"Autoruns" that's new to me. Thanks John, I can always use another good
tool.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

LOL Jim!

That's what I just got done writing to her :-)

Difference is that I never bother with MSconfig or third party startup
managers. They don't show enough. I always use Autoruns.

Your reference to a leftover piece of a Trojan is a good point.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:22 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Getting rid of some folders

[---] ...Some techs suggest to turn off all your startup applications and
then slowly introduce them back one at a time. 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 28 22:14:19 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:14:19 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Pioneer woman
In-Reply-To: <013501ccf664$f2ac91a0$d805b4e0$@winhaven.net>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>	<00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net><FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<00fe01ccf64b$1f941400$5ebc3c00$@winhaven.net>	<84A16B5098B64EBFAB0F98893033B0AA@creativesystemdesigns.com><011901ccf656$a5a07b00$f0e17100$@winhaven.net>
	<013501ccf664$f2ac91a0$d805b4e0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <8605FAB91551446F9E07F5556C0B4059@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Here is a few clips on one of the pioneers in the computing world. In the
vids she is explaining what is a nano-second. 

http://hackaday.com/2012/02/27/visualizing-a-nanosecond/

Back in the early sixties I first say her on the telle and as far as I know
she was the first to say, "It is always easier to get forgiveness than it is
to get permission" and I have always tried to follow her fine example.

Jim 


From marklbreen at gmail.com  Wed Feb 29 03:32:52 2012
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:32:52 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Pioneer woman
In-Reply-To: <8605FAB91551446F9E07F5556C0B4059@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>
	<00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net>
	<FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<00fe01ccf64b$1f941400$5ebc3c00$@winhaven.net>
	<84A16B5098B64EBFAB0F98893033B0AA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<011901ccf656$a5a07b00$f0e17100$@winhaven.net>
	<013501ccf664$f2ac91a0$d805b4e0$@winhaven.net>
	<8605FAB91551446F9E07F5556C0B4059@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCg73gmWn7JTCM3D6VOGoGbHZgkRAq+1rgsE87txBm0FaQ@mail.gmail.com>

Brilliant Jim,

thanks for sharing that,

Mark


On 29 February 2012 04:14, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Here is a few clips on one of the pioneers in the computing world. In the
> vids she is explaining what is a nano-second.
>
> http://hackaday.com/2012/02/27/visualizing-a-nanosecond/
>
> Back in the early sixties I first say her on the telle and as far as I know
> she was the first to say, "It is always easier to get forgiveness than it
> is
> to get permission" and I have always tried to follow her fine example.
>
> Jim
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 29 13:39:58 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:39:58 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] The $35 Raspberry PI goes on sale today
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCg73gmWn7JTCM3D6VOGoGbHZgkRAq+1rgsE87txBm0FaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net><00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net><FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com><00fe01ccf64b$1f941400$5ebc3c00$@winhaven.net><84A16B5098B64EBFAB0F98893033B0AA@creativesystemdesigns.com><011901ccf656$a5a07b00$f0e17100$@winhaven.net><013501ccf664$f2ac91a0$d805b4e0$@winhaven.net><8605FAB91551446F9E07F5556C0B4059@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<CAGXtTCg73gmWn7JTCM3D6VOGoGbHZgkRAq+1rgsE87txBm0FaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6C95C312F8D542D0B31234429B2EB01D@creativesystemdesigns.com>

For all those waiting for the new Raspberry PI computer, it goes on sale
today and you should expect shipping within two weeks.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/the-35-raspberry-pi-com
puter-goes-on-sale/199

You can pre-order/order here: 
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi

Both companies, Premier Farnell and Element14 have distribution rights in
North America so there should be no issues with importing.

Jim


From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Wed Feb 29 14:09:52 2012
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:09:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Pioneer woman
In-Reply-To: <8605FAB91551446F9E07F5556C0B4059@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>
	<00d901ccf5d4$67fae6f0$37f0b4d0$@net><FA567D9A04DF4848938372BBD8465CD3@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<00fe01ccf64b$1f941400$5ebc3c00$@winhaven.net>
	<84A16B5098B64EBFAB0F98893033B0AA@creativesystemdesigns.com><011901ccf656$a5a07b00$f0e17100$@winhaven.net><013501ccf664$f2ac91a
	0$d805b4e0$@winhaven.net>
	<8605FAB91551446F9E07F5556C0B4059@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F4E8610.5070002@torchlake.com>

Jim,
That is just great!  I need to get me one of them nanoseconds - got 
lotsa folk to splain to. :-)
T

Tina Norris Fields
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On 2/28/2012 11:14 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Here is a few clips on one of the pioneers in the computing world. In the
> vids she is explaining what is a nano-second.
>
> http://hackaday.com/2012/02/27/visualizing-a-nanosecond/
>
> Back in the early sixties I first say her on the telle and as far as I know
> she was the first to say, "It is always easier to get forgiveness than it is
> to get permission" and I have always tried to follow her fine example.
>
> Jim
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Feb 29 15:23:29 2012
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 07:23:29 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] The $35 Raspberry PI goes on sale today
In-Reply-To: <6C95C312F8D542D0B31234429B2EB01D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<CAGXtTCg73gmWn7JTCM3D6VOGoGbHZgkRAq+1rgsE87txBm0FaQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<6C95C312F8D542D0B31234429B2EB01D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Too late?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/29/raspberrypi_mania/

The first batch of 10,000 ARM-powered Raspberry Pi computers went on sale at 6am GMT 
today - and sold out within minutes.

According to distributor Premier Farnell, there were at least 600 orders, visits or pre-orders 
every SECOND, producing a 300 per cent hike in web traffic. 


On 29 Feb 2012 at 11:39, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> For all those waiting for the new Raspberry PI computer, it goes on sale
> today and you should expect shipping within two weeks.
> 
> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/the-35-raspberry-pi-com
> puter-goes-on-sale/199
> 
> You can pre-order/order here: 
> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
> 
> Both companies, Premier Farnell and Element14 have distribution rights in
> North America so there should be no issues with importing.
> 
> Jim
> 
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> 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 29 15:58:14 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:58:14 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] The $35 Raspberry PI goes on sale today
In-Reply-To: <4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<CAGXtTCg73gmWn7JTCM3D6VOGoGbHZgkRAq+1rgsE87txBm0FaQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<6C95C312F8D542D0B31234429B2EB01D@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Oh damn; that's it...end of Raspberry PI for any forseeable future. ;-)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:23 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The $35 Raspberry PI goes on sale today

Too late?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/29/raspberrypi_mania/

The first batch of 10,000 ARM-powered Raspberry Pi computers went on sale at
6am GMT 
today - and sold out within minutes.

According to distributor Premier Farnell, there were at least 600 orders,
visits or pre-orders 
every SECOND, producing a 300 per cent hike in web traffic. 


On 29 Feb 2012 at 11:39, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> For all those waiting for the new Raspberry PI computer, it goes on sale
> today and you should expect shipping within two weeks.
> 
>
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/the-35-raspberry-pi-com
> puter-goes-on-sale/199
> 
> You can pre-order/order here: 
> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
> 
> Both companies, Premier Farnell and Element14 have distribution rights in
> North America so there should be no issues with importing.
> 
> Jim
> 
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> 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Feb 29 16:03:38 2012
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 08:03:38 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] The $35 Raspberry PI goes on sale today
In-Reply-To: <8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

>From the same article:

<quote>The board's other distributor, RS Components, also received a huge number of 
orders. Both companies are now taking pre-orders for the next batch of Raspberry Pis.
...
The next batch of boards is expected to go into production within the next few weeks. 
</quote>


On 29 Feb 2012 at 13:58, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Oh damn; that's it...end of Raspberry PI for any forseeable future. ;-)
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:23 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The $35 Raspberry PI goes on sale today
> 
> Too late?
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/29/raspberrypi_mania/
> 
> The first batch of 10,000 ARM-powered Raspberry Pi computers went on sale at
> 6am GMT 
> today - and sold out within minutes.
> 
> According to distributor Premier Farnell, there were at least 600 orders,
> visits or pre-orders 
> every SECOND, producing a 300 per cent hike in web traffic. 
> 
> 
> On 29 Feb 2012 at 11:39, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> 
> > For all those waiting for the new Raspberry PI computer, it goes on sale
> > today and you should expect shipping within two weeks.
> > 
> >
> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/the-35-raspberry-pi-com
> > puter-goes-on-sale/199
> > 
> > You can pre-order/order here: 
> > http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
> > 
> > Both companies, Premier Farnell and Element14 have distribution rights in
> > North America so there should be no issues with importing.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
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> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> 
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