[dba-Tech] Linux equivalent of Office 2013?

Mark Breen marklbreen at gmail.com
Wed Jul 25 03:12:57 CDT 2012


Hello Hans-Christian,

I suppose, like all the people on this list, I use many software packages.

I use one accounts package named TAS Books.  I have used Tas since 1992.
It has evolved, and the current version is acceptable, and I am happy with
it.  What TAS has never done is totally change the UI - even from DOS
version 1.0 up to today.  As a result I am still very fast when using it.

I also use Gmail since 2004, that is a software product that has introduced
changes, but they introduce the changes seemlessly.

In an attempt to answer you question in a broad way, I also use some
smaller products, eg RedGate, UltraEdit and many other, each one has faults
and each one has highlights.

What MS do well is the top level of the software looks ok, IOW, the first
15 minutes.  What upsets me is things like the Saving a Dataset in VS, on
my machine, in one application, it takes 3-4 minutes to perform that
operation.

Frankly, MS today reminds me of IBM in 1985 - 1990.

To be balanced, I must say that I love Ubuntu, but I recently could not
solve a wireless card problem, and could not manage to get a MineCraft
Java-based game to work on Ubuntu so I had to revert to Windows 7.

I am not sure if I have answered what you are asking, but feel free to
probe this point further.  I wonder do we expect simply more from Microsoft
that its competitors and if so, is that fair?

Mark





On 25 July 2012 03:54, Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>wrote:

> Mark,
>
> You say that you find criticism of Microsoft products disappointing and
> that you generally feel Microsoft delivers good/super products, but, I'm
> just curious - have you ever really used any of the alternatives or
> considered what reasons some people choose the alternative over Microsofts
> offerings?
>
> Best regards,
> Hans-Christian Andersen
>
>
> On 24 Jul 2012, at 01:00, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Gustav,
> >
> > Yes, I understand your comments, I first experienced Anti-Microsoft
> > sentiment on this list back in 97 and was shocked when I became aware of
> it.
> >
> > Over the years, I was always disappointed to see Anti-Microsoft people, I
> > always thought they delivered reasonably good products, and sometimes
> super
> > products.
> >
> > However, my faith in Microosft started to change from 100% to 85% when I
> > tried to use Vista, VS 2008, SQL Server and struggled with performance.
> > The IE situation also colours my view on MS.
> >
> > That faith was somewhat restored with Win 7.  I am still very slow with
> the
> > ribbon, and resent that slowness.
> >
> > On the up site for MS, I have been using Azure over the last few weeks
> and
> > it is astonishing, I cannot believe the power it provides.  Metro it is
> the
> > GUI for Windows 2012 Server BTW.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > On 20 July 2012 16:07, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mark
> >>
> >> The whining isn't new:
> >>
> >> "I don't need anything more fancy than my Windows 98"
> >> "I have no use for the new features of Office 2003"
> >> "Oh my! A ribbon. I want the menus back!"
> >>
> >> The difference now is that this time Microsoft is ahead of the market.
> >> This, of course, means that it will take some time for the majority to
> >> catch up.
> >> "I don't want Windows 8". Think again. Could you imagine an xPad type
> >> tablet with a Windows interface? Hardly, except if you have very slim
> >> fingers. Further, people like me have no use for an iPad or the like
> other
> >> than browsing and read mail. Too little to decide for a purchase.
> >>
> >> For the last months I've used Access 2010 a lot more than previously
> >> (=nearly nil). A little to my surprise (lots of whining about the ribbon
> >> also on this list), the ribbon works very well.
> >>
> >> And since the Developer Preview (now the Consumer Preview) I have used
> >> Windows 8 every day and it runs rock steady. The Desktop is one click or
> >> keypress away and I wonder what the lousy Start menu was for. So I'm
> >> looking forward to the 26th of October where Win8 will finally be
> released
> >> - and probably the Surface machines as well.
> >>
> >> /gustav
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> marklbreen at gmail.com 20-07-12 10:19 >>>
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> I know that I am not alone, but does anyone here think that the market
> are
> >> not going to want to switch to Win8 / Off 13?
> >>
> >> I mean, could this release be the worst every for MS?
> >>
> >> It is the first ever OS and Off release that I dread.
> >>
> >> Finally, did you all see the financial results for MS today?, Imagine
> what
> >> we will be reading in a years time.
> >>
> >> Or am I being too pessimistic?
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
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