From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar  1 13:23:49 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:23:49 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 8
In-Reply-To: <4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>


Windows 8 preview or beta versions are now open for download.

If you are installing it from an ISO file, you have you choice whether to
download the 32 or 64 bit versions. Download from:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso

Assuming you will be installing you copy in a virtual drive, there are a few
things to know before proceeding.

1. You can not install Windows 8 in Hyper-V...I wouild recommend to not even
try but you may have a better mind and greater patience but I suspect any
results would be unstall at best. 

2. You will have to install Win8 in VirtualBox and you can download VB from:
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads (Select for your OS)

3. The requirements for Windows 8 are as follows and consideration will have
to be made for it robust needs.

1 GHz or faster processor
1 GB RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
1024 x 768 minimum screen resolution.

4. Assuming you have all the basics here is a link to a step by step guide
to install VirtualBox and Windows 8: http://tinyurl.com/62h43j8

5. When you get the installation started you will need to know the products
key, for each version, before proceeding:

NF32V-Q9P3W-7DR7Y-JGWRW-JFCK8	for the 64bit version
DNJXJ-7XBW8-2378T-X22TX-BKG7J	for the 32bit version

That should be all that is needed to continue. Enjoy.

Jim 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar  7 15:02:32 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:02:32 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] New game changer Technology...any app can be a web app!
In-Reply-To: <ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com><4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <3213B236D4F84333B3DBBB217C36EC65@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Is the Cloud even an issue and is it the next direction the business and
home computing world is heading? Assume for a moment that, like most of
Europe and North America the Cloud is becoming a major force in modern day
computing.

Love or hate the Cloud, it is here and regardless to its stumbles and
failures...it keeps growing and maturing at an incredible rate. What was
impossible yesterday and today is a new standard tomorrow. 

The industrial age as we know is gone. That has little to do with China and
other cheap labour and more to do with technology. North America, has almost
completely regained its prowess in manufacturing but instead of hiring
thousands workers only a few hundred are now needed. At one point in time,
all factories will be fully automated and all but a few support staff will
be required.

In the meantime the economy sprints towards the information age and new
related technologies are popping up like mushrooms. Some stick and some just
disappear but so far more are sticking than disappearing. Take the following
link to what is being considered a break-through in Cloud technology:

http://tinyurl.com/7a5aaj5

<quote>
Startup Numecent has come out of stealth mode today with some of the most
impressive enterprise technology we've seen in a decade.
</quote>

Very strong words to have to support...but if it lives up to its current
billing watch out. The claims are that IT CAN MAKE ANY APP A WEB APP.

http://tinyurl.com/7z8fjyu

Incredible!

Jim


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Mar  8 13:25:32 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:25:32 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] SOHO backup
In-Reply-To: <ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F5907AC.6050805@earthlink.net>

For a smallbiz/home network of 6 or 7 PCs running Win2k Prof, XP Prof & 
7 Prof, total storage < 1TB, does the following look like a viable 
backup approach? Backup up all relevant network stuff to alternating 
drives on a 2-drive NAS, alternately swapping out the most recent backup 
drive offsite.

PB



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 14:28:14 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:28:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] SOHO backup
In-Reply-To: <4F5907AC.6050805@earthlink.net>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F5907AC.6050805@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jmrcryrdy_RbtbQ+vM_k+j=UjFZ3K+J5KMEzCs=5K4AA@mail.gmail.com>

What medium are you going to put the backups on to take them off-site?
A.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Peter Brawley
<peter.brawley at earthlink.net>wrote:

> For a smallbiz/home network of 6 or 7 PCs running Win2k Prof, XP Prof & 7
> Prof, total storage < 1TB, does the following look like a viable backup
> approach? Backup up all relevant network stuff to alternating drives on a
> 2-drive NAS, alternately swapping out the most recent backup drive offsite.
>
> PB
>
>
>

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Mar  8 14:57:33 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 14:57:33 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] SOHO backup
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jmrcryrdy_RbtbQ+vM_k+j=UjFZ3K+J5KMEzCs=5K4AA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F5907AC.6050805@earthlink.net>
	<CAEPJO1jmrcryrdy_RbtbQ+vM_k+j=UjFZ3K+J5KMEzCs=5K4AA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F591D3D.8000007@earthlink.net>

On 3/8/2012 2:28 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> What medium are you going to put the backups on to take them off-site?

?! "... alternately swapping out the most recent backup drive offsite."

PB

-----

> A.
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Peter Brawley
> <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>> For a smallbiz/home network of 6 or 7 PCs running Win2k Prof, XP Prof&  7
>> Prof, total storage<  1TB, does the following look like a viable backup
>> approach? Backup up all relevant network stuff to alternating drives on a
>> 2-drive NAS, alternately swapping out the most recent backup drive offsite.
>>
>> PB
>>
>>
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar  9 13:32:05 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:32:05 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 metro
In-Reply-To: <3213B236D4F84333B3DBBB217C36EC65@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com><4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<3213B236D4F84333B3DBBB217C36EC65@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <DBA6B94FF2C34033A114C79BA645B407@creativesystemdesigns.com>

For all you people out there that have been working with Windows8 trying to
get up to speed and wishing Metro was just an option; well, you may be in
luck, at least in the Preview package. Below is a hack method which may
clean up your problems. 

1. Open regedit by typing regedit at the Start screen.

2. Navigate to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer

3. Modify the RPEnabled key to a "0" instead of the default "1".

4. To return to the Metro UI, just change the value back to a "1".

You can even create a toggle command batch file right on the "desktop???".

Jim 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Mar 10 07:58:47 2012
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 08:58:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 check
Message-ID: <6930F5FA78C843DE9D5BC98B1F05785B@SusanHarkins>

If you're using Outlook 2010, would you mind checking something for me? Using the Customize Ribbon feature (File tab | Options), can you delete the Reply All option under Respond for the Home (Mail) tab? Mine is dimmed, so I can't do anything -- won't let me delete it. But, it doesn't make sense that it'd be in the list, if I can't actually manipulate it in any way. 

If your's isn't dimmed, let me know, please. 

If you know why mine is dimmed, please let me know. 

Thanks!
Susan H. 

From bheid at sc.rr.com  Sat Mar 10 08:31:00 2012
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:31:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 check
In-Reply-To: <6930F5FA78C843DE9D5BC98B1F05785B@SusanHarkins>
References: <6930F5FA78C843DE9D5BC98B1F05785B@SusanHarkins>
Message-ID: <000601ccfeca$6a5f2150$3f1d63f0$@sc.rr.com>

Susan,

No, all of the items under respond are disabled for me.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:59 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 check

If you're using Outlook 2010, would you mind checking something for me?
Using the Customize Ribbon feature (File tab | Options), can you delete the
Reply All option under Respond for the Home (Mail) tab? Mine is dimmed, so I
can't do anything -- won't let me delete it. But, it doesn't make sense that
it'd be in the list, if I can't actually manipulate it in any way. 

If your's isn't dimmed, let me know, please. 

If you know why mine is dimmed, please let me know. 

Thanks!
Susan H. 
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 10 08:37:04 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 08:37:04 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F5B6710.8060602@earthlink.net>

On this wired homebiz LAN (Netgear router), boxes A through F belong to 
one workgroup. A runs Ubuntu, B runs W2KPro with IIS 5, C and D run XP 
with Apache server 2.2, E runs XP Prof with no web server, and new box F 
runs Win 7 Prof with IIS 7.5.

-- all can ping one another

-- all can run web apps on A, B, C, D and F

-- B, C, D and E can access hard shared hard drives on one other

-- F can access shared drives on B, C, D and E.

-- *But neither B nor C nor D nor E can access a shared drive in F.* All 
those boxes report drive C in F is "not accessible".
Under "?dvanced sharing " in F under Win 7 Pro, that drive is marked 
Shared, given a Share name, and given appropriate permissions.
And in the network and sharing center,
   ---- Network discovery is on,
   ---- File & printer sharing is on,
   ---- Public folder sharing is on,
   ---- Media streaming is on,
   ---- File sharing using 40|56 bit encryption is permitted,
   ---- Password protection is off,
   ---- Allow Windows to manage homegroup connecitons is on.

What am I missing?

PB

From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Mar 10 08:52:38 2012
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:52:38 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
Message-ID: <sf5b78db.071@cactus.dk>

Hi Peter

It could be this:

   ---- Password protection is off,

/gustav


>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 10-03-12 15:37 >>>
On this wired homebiz LAN (Netgear router), boxes A through F belong to 
one workgroup. A runs Ubuntu, B runs W2KPro with IIS 5, C and D run XP 
with Apache server 2.2, E runs XP Prof with no web server, and new box F 
runs Win 7 Prof with IIS 7.5.

-- all can ping one another

-- all can run web apps on A, B, C, D and F

-- B, C, D and E can access hard shared hard drives on one other

-- F can access shared drives on B, C, D and E.

-- *But neither B nor C nor D nor E can access a shared drive in F.* All 
those boxes report drive C in F is "not accessible".
Under "?dvanced sharing " in F under Win 7 Pro, that drive is marked 
Shared, given a Share name, and given appropriate permissions.
And in the network and sharing center,
   ---- Network discovery is on,
   ---- File & printer sharing is on,
   ---- Public folder sharing is on,
   ---- Media streaming is on,
   ---- File sharing using 40|56 bit encryption is permitted,
   ---- Password protection is off,
   ---- Allow Windows to manage homegroup connecitons is on.

What am I missing?

PB


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 10 09:04:43 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:04:43 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <sf5b78db.071@cactus.dk>
References: <sf5b78db.071@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4F5B6D8B.8090100@earthlink.net>

On 3/10/2012 8:52 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> It could be this:
>
>     ---- Password protection is off,

Thanks. Doesn't work if it's on, either. (Win7 sez "On" requires 
identical user accounts on F and all sharing 'puters, so it's off).

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 10-03-12 15:37>>>
> On this wired homebiz LAN (Netgear router), boxes A through F belong to
> one workgroup. A runs Ubuntu, B runs W2KPro with IIS 5, C and D run XP
> with Apache server 2.2, E runs XP Prof with no web server, and new box F
> runs Win 7 Prof with IIS 7.5.
>
> -- all can ping one another
>
> -- all can run web apps on A, B, C, D and F
>
> -- B, C, D and E can access hard shared hard drives on one other
>
> -- F can access shared drives on B, C, D and E.
>
> -- *But neither B nor C nor D nor E can access a shared drive in F.* All
> those boxes report drive C in F is "not accessible".
> Under "?dvanced sharing " in F under Win 7 Pro, that drive is marked
> Shared, given a Share name, and given appropriate permissions.
> And in the network and sharing center,
>     ---- Network discovery is on,
>     ---- File&  printer sharing is on,
>     ---- Public folder sharing is on,
>     ---- Media streaming is on,
>     ---- File sharing using 40|56 bit encryption is permitted,
>     ---- Password protection is off,
>     ---- Allow Windows to manage homegroup connecitons is on.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> PB
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Mar 10 10:08:32 2012
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:08:32 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 check
References: <6930F5FA78C843DE9D5BC98B1F05785B@SusanHarkins>
	<000601ccfeca$6a5f2150$3f1d63f0$@sc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3C2EBCBEAD854D669DA9E2E971069D70@SusanHarkins>

Thanks for checking -- it's kind of interesting -- why would they even be 
there if we can't access them? I'm wondering if there's an option somewhere 
that might free them up.

Susan H.


> Susan,
>
> No, all of the items under respond are disabled for me.
>
> Bobby
>
> If you're using Outlook 2010, would you mind checking something for me?
> Using the Customize Ribbon feature (File tab | Options), can you delete 
> the
> Reply All option under Respond for the Home (Mail) tab? Mine is dimmed, so 
> I
> can't do anything -- won't let me delete it. But, it doesn't make sense 
> that
> it'd be in the list, if I can't actually manipulate it in any way.
>
> If your's isn't dimmed, let me know, please.
>
> If you know why mine is dimmed, please let me know.


From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Mar 10 11:57:14 2012
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:57:14 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
Message-ID: <sf5ba420.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Peter

But if you turn it on and try to connect from another station with user/password and you succeed, you know where to go from.

/gustav

>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 10-03-12 16:04 >>>
On 3/10/2012 8:52 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> It could be this:
>
>     ---- Password protection is off,

Thanks. Doesn't work if it's on, either. (Win7 sez "On" requires 
identical user accounts on F and all sharing 'puters, so it's off).

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 10-03-12 15:37>>>
> On this wired homebiz LAN (Netgear router), boxes A through F belong to
> one workgroup. A runs Ubuntu, B runs W2KPro with IIS 5, C and D run XP
> with Apache server 2.2, E runs XP Prof with no web server, and new box F
> runs Win 7 Prof with IIS 7.5.
>
> -- all can ping one another
>
> -- all can run web apps on A, B, C, D and F
>
> -- B, C, D and E can access hard shared hard drives on one other
>
> -- F can access shared drives on B, C, D and E.
>
> -- *But neither B nor C nor D nor E can access a shared drive in F.* All
> those boxes report drive C in F is "not accessible".
> Under "?dvanced sharing " in F under Win 7 Pro, that drive is marked
> Shared, given a Share name, and given appropriate permissions.
> And in the network and sharing center,
>     ---- Network discovery is on,
>     ---- File&  printer sharing is on,
>     ---- Public folder sharing is on,
>     ---- Media streaming is on,
>     ---- File sharing using 40|56 bit encryption is permitted,
>     ---- Password protection is off,
>     ---- Allow Windows to manage homegroup connecitons is on.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> PB



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Mar 10 13:10:28 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:10:28 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <4F5B6710.8060602@earthlink.net>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com><4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F5B6710.8060602@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <FF6F6925A3BF4FE58C265F3C3EAAC2F5@creativesystemdesigns.com>

This sounds like an IQ test; the Red house is second from the end of the
street...so where is the white house and what is the colour of houses
adjacent.

First, Windows 7 is similar to a server in access control. If the only user
is the computer's administrator and the password protection has been turned
off remote access will be limited or blocked. You can either turn password
protection on or add another user, give that user full rights to shares and
allow access that way.

Second, mentioning which ones run web apps seems to be a false leader and
irrelevant?

Third, sometimes drives will not connect via the computer names and their IP
address must be used, i.e.: 192.168.150.3\MyPrinter.

Forth, when sharing with Ubuntu over a windows network be sure to have the
appropriate service is running and directory access is set. See below:
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

On this wired homebiz LAN (Netgear router), boxes A through F belong to 
one workgroup. A runs Ubuntu, B runs W2KPro with IIS 5, C and D run XP 
with Apache server 2.2, E runs XP Prof with no web server, and new box F 
runs Win 7 Prof with IIS 7.5.

-- all can ping one another

-- all can run web apps on A, B, C, D and F

-- B, C, D and E can access hard shared hard drives on one other

-- F can access shared drives on B, C, D and E.

-- *But neither B nor C nor D nor E can access a shared drive in F.* All 
those boxes report drive C in F is "not accessible".
Under "?dvanced sharing " in F under Win 7 Pro, that drive is marked 
Shared, given a Share name, and given appropriate permissions.
And in the network and sharing center,
   ---- Network discovery is on,
   ---- File & printer sharing is on,
   ---- Public folder sharing is on,
   ---- Media streaming is on,
   ---- File sharing using 40|56 bit encryption is permitted,
   ---- Password protection is off,
   ---- Allow Windows to manage homegroup connecitons is on.

What am I missing?

PB
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Mar 10 13:26:48 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:26:48 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <FF6F6925A3BF4FE58C265F3C3EAAC2F5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com><4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com><4F5B6710.8060602@earthlink.net>
	<FF6F6925A3BF4FE58C265F3C3EAAC2F5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <B380D22BC96D4C9599E1F798275FD66F@HAL9007>

I'm trying to do the same thing - but turning on password protection didn't
work

I have two comps - HAL9007 and HAL9006 - both running W7.  

9007 can see and modify all of 9006.  But 9006 has a user - Rocky - with a
password.  9006 cannot see 9007 - access is blocked.  9007 has no user name
or password login.  So when I try to access 9007 from 9006 I get the Enter
Network Password dialog box with User Name/Password. but Admin/Admin doesn't
work.  Is there a default User Name/Password for a W7 installation with no
login account?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:10 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

This sounds like an IQ test; the Red house is second from the end of the
street...so where is the white house and what is the colour of houses
adjacent.

First, Windows 7 is similar to a server in access control. If the only user
is the computer's administrator and the password protection has been turned
off remote access will be limited or blocked. You can either turn password
protection on or add another user, give that user full rights to shares and
allow access that way.

Second, mentioning which ones run web apps seems to be a false leader and
irrelevant?

Third, sometimes drives will not connect via the computer names and their IP
address must be used, i.e.: 192.168.150.3\MyPrinter.

Forth, when sharing with Ubuntu over a windows network be sure to have the
appropriate service is running and directory access is set. See below:
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

On this wired homebiz LAN (Netgear router), boxes A through F belong to one
workgroup. A runs Ubuntu, B runs W2KPro with IIS 5, C and D run XP with
Apache server 2.2, E runs XP Prof with no web server, and new box F runs Win
7 Prof with IIS 7.5.

-- all can ping one another

-- all can run web apps on A, B, C, D and F

-- B, C, D and E can access hard shared hard drives on one other

-- F can access shared drives on B, C, D and E.

-- *But neither B nor C nor D nor E can access a shared drive in F.* All
those boxes report drive C in F is "not accessible".
Under "?dvanced sharing " in F under Win 7 Pro, that drive is marked Shared,
given a Share name, and given appropriate permissions.
And in the network and sharing center,
   ---- Network discovery is on,
   ---- File & printer sharing is on,
   ---- Public folder sharing is on,
   ---- Media streaming is on,
   ---- File sharing using 40|56 bit encryption is permitted,
   ---- Password protection is off,
   ---- Allow Windows to manage homegroup connecitons is on.

What am I missing?

PB
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Mar 10 13:42:30 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:42:30 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <B380D22BC96D4C9599E1F798275FD66F@HAL9007>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com><4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com><4F5B6710.8060602@earthlink.net><FF6F6925A3BF4FE58C265F3C3EAAC2F5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<B380D22BC96D4C9599E1F798275FD66F@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <C5914E456A2046AEA833C1768B7B26F7@creativesystemdesigns.com>

The second part to the puzzle is to add another user and let the second user
share (Not suer whether Ultima is differnet than Pro). Make sure that share
is with "everyone" or just specify each user/computer on your network.

Here is an example link: 
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/share-files-and-printers-between-wi
ndows-7-and-xp/

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:27 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

I'm trying to do the same thing - but turning on password protection didn't
work

I have two comps - HAL9007 and HAL9006 - both running W7.  

9007 can see and modify all of 9006.  But 9006 has a user - Rocky - with a
password.  9006 cannot see 9007 - access is blocked.  9007 has no user name
or password login.  So when I try to access 9007 from 9006 I get the Enter
Network Password dialog box with User Name/Password. but Admin/Admin doesn't
work.  Is there a default User Name/Password for a W7 installation with no
login account?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:10 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

This sounds like an IQ test; the Red house is second from the end of the
street...so where is the white house and what is the colour of houses
adjacent.

First, Windows 7 is similar to a server in access control. If the only user
is the computer's administrator and the password protection has been turned
off remote access will be limited or blocked. You can either turn password
protection on or add another user, give that user full rights to shares and
allow access that way.

Second, mentioning which ones run web apps seems to be a false leader and
irrelevant?

Third, sometimes drives will not connect via the computer names and their IP
address must be used, i.e.: 192.168.150.3\MyPrinter.

Forth, when sharing with Ubuntu over a windows network be sure to have the
appropriate service is running and directory access is set. See below:
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

On this wired homebiz LAN (Netgear router), boxes A through F belong to one
workgroup. A runs Ubuntu, B runs W2KPro with IIS 5, C and D run XP with
Apache server 2.2, E runs XP Prof with no web server, and new box F runs Win
7 Prof with IIS 7.5.

-- all can ping one another

-- all can run web apps on A, B, C, D and F

-- B, C, D and E can access hard shared hard drives on one other

-- F can access shared drives on B, C, D and E.

-- *But neither B nor C nor D nor E can access a shared drive in F.* All
those boxes report drive C in F is "not accessible".
Under "?dvanced sharing " in F under Win 7 Pro, that drive is marked Shared,
given a Share name, and given appropriate permissions.
And in the network and sharing center,
   ---- Network discovery is on,
   ---- File & printer sharing is on,
   ---- Public folder sharing is on,
   ---- Media streaming is on,
   ---- File sharing using 40|56 bit encryption is permitted,
   ---- Password protection is off,
   ---- Allow Windows to manage homegroup connecitons is on.

What am I missing?

PB
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 10 15:20:37 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:20:37 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <sf5ba420.074@cactus.dk>
References: <sf5ba420.074@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4F5BC5A5.7000801@earthlink.net>

On 3/10/2012 11:57 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> But if you turn it on and try to connect from another station with user/password and you succeed, you know where to go from.

I did turn it on, it didn't work, so could you explain?

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 10-03-12 16:04>>>
> On 3/10/2012 8:52 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> It could be this:
>>
>>      ---- Password protection is off,
> Thanks. Doesn't work if it's on, either. (Win7 sez "On" requires
> identical user accounts on F and all sharing 'puters, so it's off).
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 10-03-12 15:37>>>
>> On this wired homebiz LAN (Netgear router), boxes A through F belong to
>> one workgroup. A runs Ubuntu, B runs W2KPro with IIS 5, C and D run XP
>> with Apache server 2.2, E runs XP Prof with no web server, and new box F
>> runs Win 7 Prof with IIS 7.5.
>>
>> -- all can ping one another
>>
>> -- all can run web apps on A, B, C, D and F
>>
>> -- B, C, D and E can access hard shared hard drives on one other
>>
>> -- F can access shared drives on B, C, D and E.
>>
>> -- *But neither B nor C nor D nor E can access a shared drive in F.* All
>> those boxes report drive C in F is "not accessible".
>> Under "?dvanced sharing " in F under Win 7 Pro, that drive is marked
>> Shared, given a Share name, and given appropriate permissions.
>> And in the network and sharing center,
>>      ---- Network discovery is on,
>>      ---- File&   printer sharing is on,
>>      ---- Public folder sharing is on,
>>      ---- Media streaming is on,
>>      ---- File sharing using 40|56 bit encryption is permitted,
>>      ---- Password protection is off,
>>      ---- Allow Windows to manage homegroup connecitons is on.
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> PB
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Sat Mar 10 16:02:27 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:02:27 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 check
In-Reply-To: <000601ccfeca$6a5f2150$3f1d63f0$@sc.rr.com>
References: <6930F5FA78C843DE9D5BC98B1F05785B@SusanHarkins>
	<000601ccfeca$6a5f2150$3f1d63f0$@sc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <008401ccff09$7b2b3700$7181a500$@winhaven.net>

Same here.

What you can do is make a new group, add the options you want to it, remove
the Respond group and move the new group into its place on the list.

Kind of stupid. But it works.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:31 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 check

Susan,

No, all of the items under respond are disabled for me.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:59 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2010 check

If you're using Outlook 2010, would you mind checking something for me?
Using the Customize Ribbon feature (File tab | Options), can you delete the
Reply All option under Respond for the Home (Mail) tab? Mine is dimmed, so I
can't do anything -- won't let me delete it. But, it doesn't make sense that
it'd be in the list, if I can't actually manipulate it in any way. 

If your's isn't dimmed, let me know, please. 

If you know why mine is dimmed, please let me know. 

Thanks!
Susan H. 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Mar 10 22:23:00 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:23:00 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <C5914E456A2046AEA833C1768B7B26F7@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <014e01ccbeb5$7f5b0010$7e110030$@net>,
	<4F4E9751.18264.CD3AB9D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<8C8BFE4D00794A43BA0D75922F537DB2@creativesystemdesigns.com><4F4EA0BA.18484.CF86D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><ABD9A00CDE644B98B9E426750F722EB6@creativesystemdesigns.com><4F5B6710.8060602@earthlink.net><FF6F6925A3BF4FE58C265F3C3EAAC2F5@creativesystemdesigns.com><B380D22BC96D4C9599E1F798275FD66F@HAL9007>
	<C5914E456A2046AEA833C1768B7B26F7@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <09DFEFC5F55D4C8F85929BBA106ED1F0@HAL9007>

Add a user on HAL9007?  (was hoping to avoid that)

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:43 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

The second part to the puzzle is to add another user and let the second user
share (Not suer whether Ultima is differnet than Pro). Make sure that share
is with "everyone" or just specify each user/computer on your network.

Here is an example link: 
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/share-files-and-printers-between-wi
ndows-7-and-xp/

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:27 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

I'm trying to do the same thing - but turning on password protection didn't
work

I have two comps - HAL9007 and HAL9006 - both running W7.  

9007 can see and modify all of 9006.  But 9006 has a user - Rocky - with a
password.  9006 cannot see 9007 - access is blocked.  9007 has no user name
or password login.  So when I try to access 9007 from 9006 I get the Enter
Network Password dialog box with User Name/Password. but Admin/Admin doesn't
work.  Is there a default User Name/Password for a W7 installation with no
login account?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:10 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

This sounds like an IQ test; the Red house is second from the end of the
street...so where is the white house and what is the colour of houses
adjacent.

First, Windows 7 is similar to a server in access control. If the only user
is the computer's administrator and the password protection has been turned
off remote access will be limited or blocked. You can either turn password
protection on or add another user, give that user full rights to shares and
allow access that way.

Second, mentioning which ones run web apps seems to be a false leader and
irrelevant?

Third, sometimes drives will not connect via the computer names and their IP
address must be used, i.e.: 192.168.150.3\MyPrinter.

Forth, when sharing with Ubuntu over a windows network be sure to have the
appropriate service is running and directory access is set. See below:
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

On this wired homebiz LAN (Netgear router), boxes A through F belong to one
workgroup. A runs Ubuntu, B runs W2KPro with IIS 5, C and D run XP with
Apache server 2.2, E runs XP Prof with no web server, and new box F runs Win
7 Prof with IIS 7.5.

-- all can ping one another

-- all can run web apps on A, B, C, D and F

-- B, C, D and E can access hard shared hard drives on one other

-- F can access shared drives on B, C, D and E.

-- *But neither B nor C nor D nor E can access a shared drive in F.* All
those boxes report drive C in F is "not accessible".
Under "?dvanced sharing " in F under Win 7 Pro, that drive is marked Shared,
given a Share name, and given appropriate permissions.
And in the network and sharing center,
   ---- Network discovery is on,
   ---- File & printer sharing is on,
   ---- Public folder sharing is on,
   ---- Media streaming is on,
   ---- File sharing using 40|56 bit encryption is permitted,
   ---- Password protection is off,
   ---- Allow Windows to manage homegroup connecitons is on.

What am I missing?

PB
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Mar 11 01:04:45 2012
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:04:45 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
Message-ID: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Peter

If you run as an Administrator, you may need this registry hack to EnableLinkedConnections:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624

/gustav


>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 10-03-12 22:20 >>>
On 3/10/2012 11:57 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> But if you turn it on and try to connect from another station with user/password and you succeed, you know where to go from.

I did turn it on, it didn't work, so could you explain?

PB



From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Mar 11 14:02:00 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:02:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk>
References: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4F5CF6A8.1070501@earthlink.net>

On 3/11/2012 1:04 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> If you run as an Administrator, you may need this registry hack to EnableLinkedConnections:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624
Thanks. UAC is already turned off. Win2k Pro and XP Pro boxes still 
cannot access the drive on the Win 7 Pro machine.

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 10-03-12 22:20>>>
> On 3/10/2012 11:57 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> But if you turn it on and try to connect from another station with user/password and you succeed, you know where to go from.
> I did turn it on, it didn't work, so could you explain?
>
> PB
>
>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Mar 11 14:03:58 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:03:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk>
References: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net>

Mebbe I should ask the question this way:

Has*anybody* succeeded is accessing a Win 7 Pro hard drive from an XP 
Pro machine? If yes, how'd you do it?

PB



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Mon Mar 12 05:54:20 2012
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 06:54:20 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net>
References: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk> <4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4F5DD5DC.7010400@torchlake.com>

Peter,
Not I.  I have been able to set up a shared folder between the two.  The 
Win7 Pro can see and access the shared folder on the WinXP Pro box (now 
that it can once again see the network), but the WinXP box never quite 
sees the Win7 box.  I'll be eager to know if anybody does find a way.
T

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields at torchlake.com
231-322-2787


On 3/11/2012 3:03 PM, Peter Brawley wrote:
> Mebbe I should ask the question this way:
>
> Has*anybody* succeeded is accessing a Win 7 Pro hard drive from an XP 
> Pro machine? If yes, how'd you do it?
>
> PB
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Mar 12 06:18:50 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:18:50 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
Message-ID: <sf5de9b4.006@cactus.dk>

Hi Peter

Yes, but only with my AD administrator credentials, not a local account of the Win7 machine.

/gustav

>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 11-03-2012 20:03:58 >>>
Mebbe I should ask the question this way:

Has*anybody* succeeded is accessing a Win 7 Pro hard drive from an XP Pro machine? If yes, how'd you do it?

PB



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar 12 12:15:29 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:15:29 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net>
References: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk> <4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <089B404C7CA8480290EAAE27B3A83279@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Peter:

That is interesting. I think Windows7 of XP protocols between each other are
not 100 percent compatible but if you use a statement that uses the absolute
IP address you should have no problem. 

I do not have or traditionally work with networks that are domain type which
means everything is centrally controlled through the Active Directory and
the policies setup. Other than that I connect to the servers and station via
Remote desktop protocol RDP. 

But you can connect avoiding forcing the network to resolve the UNC by
keying in the IP address: \\192.168.134.100\MyShare. (That is assuming that
the Windows7 computer is 192.168.134.100) If you then have a user, other
than the administrator, you will be able to connect, entering the
appropriate username and password.

HTH
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:04 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

Mebbe I should ask the question this way:

Has*anybody* succeeded is accessing a Win 7 Pro hard drive from an XP 
Pro machine? If yes, how'd you do it?

PB


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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 12 13:33:35 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:33:35 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <089B404C7CA8480290EAAE27B3A83279@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk> <4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net>
	<089B404C7CA8480290EAAE27B3A83279@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F5E417F.9070206@earthlink.net>

On 3/12/2012 12:15 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> That is interesting. I think Windows7 of XP protocols between each other are
> not 100 percent compatible but if you use a statement that uses the absolute
> IP address you should have no problem.

But IPs are assigned dynamically, so when a machine disappears from the 
network for a day or three, and others reboot, we're screwed.

>
> I do not have or traditionally work with networks that are domain type which
> means everything is centrally controlled through the Active Directory and
> the policies setup. Other than that I connect to the servers and station via
> Remote desktop protocol RDP.

That meets some needs, not ours. We have one *Nix box, five Win boxes 
and two tablets. Together they support a biz, a professional practice, a 
set of web development environments & projects, a music server, and two 
authors, such that most machines need access to the innards of many 
others. If Microsoft designers don't approve of such a requirement, they 
can go screw.

>
> But you can connect avoiding forcing the network to resolve the UNC by
> keying in the IP address: \\192.168.134.100\MyShare. (That is assuming that
> the Windows7 computer is 192.168.134.100) If you then have a user, other
> than the administrator, you will be able to connect, entering the
> appropriate username and password.

Thanks for the suggestion, but see above.

Windows 7 gives us yet more Microsoft (in)security fixes for their daft 
mutually interpenetrating bloatware architecture. Ugh.

PB

-----

>
> HTH
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:04 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
>
> Mebbe I should ask the question this way:
>
> Has*anybody* succeeded is accessing a Win 7 Pro hard drive from an XP
> Pro machine? If yes, how'd you do it?
>
> PB
>
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Mar 12 16:49:58 2012
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:49:58 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
Message-ID: <sf5e7dbb.027@cactus.dk>

Hi Peter

Please, if you feel so bad about it, feel free to reformat your box with something else than Windows 7.

/gustav


>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 12-03-12 19:33 >>>
Windows 7 gives us yet more Microsoft (in)security fixes for their daft 
mutually interpenetrating bloatware architecture. Ugh.

PB


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 12 16:57:29 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:57:29 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <sf5e7dbb.027@cactus.dk>
References: <sf5e7dbb.027@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4F5E7149.5020303@earthlink.net>

On 3/12/2012 4:49 PM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Please, if you feel so bad about it, feel free to reformat your box with something else than Windows 7.

I do feel free to do that, thanks. Alas I need to be able to support 
processes that run on various Micro$haft systems.

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 12-03-12 19:33>>>
> Windows 7 gives us yet more Microsoft (in)security fixes for their daft
> mutually interpenetrating bloatware architecture. Ugh.
>
> PB
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Mar 13 20:55:13 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:55:13 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <4F5E417F.9070206@earthlink.net>
References: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk>
	<4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net><089B404C7CA8480290EAAE27B3A83279@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F5E417F.9070206@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3E09903CE12E4D2C815B96E5E65E5641@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Perry:

One final comment of the Windows7 and XP networking controversy. 

When Microsoft created the TCP/IP networking stack for the XP, it was
ordered to search first for pier to pier workgroups and then a domain
controller. The brand spanking new TCP/IP networking stack for Windows 7 had
the reverse order in which it first looked the domain controller and once
that was found, it would then, if directed via the setup, look for a
workgroup.

I have only worked on networks with domain controllers so I would never run
into the issues you have. 

What happens is the Win7 spends up to 5 minutes trying to find its network
domain controller, equally as long when contacted via XP and when that fails
will reluctantly start looking for any WG. An XP box trying to get access to
a Win7 box basically gives up trying by then.

Within programming there is a couple of links that may assist is getting XP
and Win7 to talk:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa377522(VS.85).aspx
...and...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa376851(v=VS.85).aspx

The above are just commands allowing you as a programmer, to wait out Win7's
super slow acknowledgement and not a real fix.

The only real fix for this problem is to get with the program...that is
either replace all your XP stations with Win7 or install a real Server, with
AD, setting up server to station policies and setup user server login
accounts. Microsoft has decided that the defunct/depreciated security risky
desktop of XP is not worth spending any more time or money on supporting as
it runs out completely by June of this year.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:34 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle

On 3/12/2012 12:15 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> That is interesting. I think Windows7 of XP protocols between each other
are
> not 100 percent compatible but if you use a statement that uses the
absolute
> IP address you should have no problem.

But IPs are assigned dynamically, so when a machine disappears from the 
network for a day or three, and others reboot, we're screwed.

>
> I do not have or traditionally work with networks that are domain type
which
> means everything is centrally controlled through the Active Directory and
> the policies setup. Other than that I connect to the servers and station
via
> Remote desktop protocol RDP.

That meets some needs, not ours. We have one *Nix box, five Win boxes 
and two tablets. Together they support a biz, a professional practice, a 
set of web development environments & projects, a music server, and two 
authors, such that most machines need access to the innards of many 
others. If Microsoft designers don't approve of such a requirement, they 
can go screw.

>
> But you can connect avoiding forcing the network to resolve the UNC by
> keying in the IP address: \\192.168.134.100\MyShare. (That is assuming
that
> the Windows7 computer is 192.168.134.100) If you then have a user, other
> than the administrator, you will be able to connect, entering the
> appropriate username and password.

Thanks for the suggestion, but see above.

Windows 7 gives us yet more Microsoft (in)security fixes for their daft 
mutually interpenetrating bloatware architecture. Ugh.

PB

-----

>
> HTH
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:04 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
>
> Mebbe I should ask the question this way:
>
> Has*anybody* succeeded is accessing a Win 7 Pro hard drive from an XP
> Pro machine? If yes, how'd you do it?
>
> PB
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Mar 13 21:56:41 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:56:41 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows and Ubuntu mix
In-Reply-To: <4F5E417F.9070206@earthlink.net>
References: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk>
	<4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net><089B404C7CA8480290EAAE27B3A83279@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F5E417F.9070206@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <162DDD91325C47A1B338FAA587D27D04@creativesystemdesigns.com>

I worked on a small network today of 11 stations and one server.

The client originally had a collection of Windows 7 and XP boxes connecting
to a Server2003. It worked very well but after a series of issues with
hardware and partners, one individual assumed control. Half the stations
were found to be corrupted and with none of the original boot or repair
disks handy, there was no way to get MS to help and the client was pooched. 

It was decided, being that the costs of new Windows 7 OS disks and MS Office
was prohibitive, in price, maybe it would be worth trying an option like
Linux. For this effort, not the latest, but the previous version of Ubuntu
would be tried (11.10); it comes up a Ubuntu 1. The roll out was super easy
as we installed 6 copies simultaneously. (The client saved at least $4K to
$5K on OS and Office going this route)

It new Ubuntu layout is different in that its' menus are attached to the
left side of the screen by default and all system tools can be accessed from
a single cluster on the top right. Active applications still show at the
bottom of the screen. Once stations were named, standardized on shares and
Samba scripts, the networking was completed.

One more issue remained and that was to get Window7 station authentication
to allow the Ubuntu station to share. It appears that Ubuntu does not yet
use authentication version ntlmv2 so the following had to be done on each
Windows 7 station (it did not have issues with XP). See below for the
temporary fix, and NO, I did not figure it out on my own but that is why
there is Google. Go into each Windows7 policies; run gpedit.msc at the
start.

" local computer policies/computer configuration/windows setting/security
setting/local policies/security options/networksecurity:lan manager
authentication level "

Change/add both ntlmv1 and ntlmv2 responses. The older authentication
version has to been included within the new Samba but I would suspect, even
though ntlmv2 has been patented by MS to stop such collaborations, a
solution will be forth coming.  

Also adding \\MyServer_or_Station_hostname\\share_name\ and stations ip to
/etc/hosts, the shares became accessible. Maybe a bit of over-kill but it
worked. Rock solid. (Note: used fix IP addresses, though they are fairly
stable on a network and it heads off any later complications.)

The new Ubuntu is a real thing of beauty and installation took no longer,
maybe less, than it would on a Windows install...I was quite impressed. (It
loads and runs very fast.)

Jim       


From marklbreen at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 03:55:02 2012
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:55:02 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows and Ubuntu mix
In-Reply-To: <162DDD91325C47A1B338FAA587D27D04@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk> <4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net>
	<089B404C7CA8480290EAAE27B3A83279@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F5E417F.9070206@earthlink.net>
	<162DDD91325C47A1B338FAA587D27D04@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTChX2w7f30N8WZAKqP+WN-KpY-dew6xhV1kePSg7f2J4AA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Jim,

I have been running Ubuntu here on the kids computer since Mavrick Mearcat
and I love it.

I also think it is a thing of beauty.  I just wish that I had more reasons
to use it.

I have a client that currently operates 26 computers and once I remove MS
Access from their environment, I am going to experiment with installing
Ubuntu and testing how they like it.  It would be nice to replace 24 / 26
machine wiht Linux.

Did you install a file server yet on Linux?

Thanks for posting.

Mark




On 14 March 2012 02:56, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> I worked on a small network today of 11 stations and one server.
>
> The client originally had a collection of Windows 7 and XP boxes connecting
> to a Server2003. It worked very well but after a series of issues with
> hardware and partners, one individual assumed control. Half the stations
> were found to be corrupted and with none of the original boot or repair
> disks handy, there was no way to get MS to help and the client was pooched.
>
> It was decided, being that the costs of new Windows 7 OS disks and MS
> Office
> was prohibitive, in price, maybe it would be worth trying an option like
> Linux. For this effort, not the latest, but the previous version of Ubuntu
> would be tried (11.10); it comes up a Ubuntu 1. The roll out was super easy
> as we installed 6 copies simultaneously. (The client saved at least $4K to
> $5K on OS and Office going this route)
>
> It new Ubuntu layout is different in that its' menus are attached to the
> left side of the screen by default and all system tools can be accessed
> from
> a single cluster on the top right. Active applications still show at the
> bottom of the screen. Once stations were named, standardized on shares and
> Samba scripts, the networking was completed.
>
> One more issue remained and that was to get Window7 station authentication
> to allow the Ubuntu station to share. It appears that Ubuntu does not yet
> use authentication version ntlmv2 so the following had to be done on each
> Windows 7 station (it did not have issues with XP). See below for the
> temporary fix, and NO, I did not figure it out on my own but that is why
> there is Google. Go into each Windows7 policies; run gpedit.msc at the
> start.
>
> " local computer policies/computer configuration/windows setting/security
> setting/local policies/security options/networksecurity:lan manager
> authentication level "
>
> Change/add both ntlmv1 and ntlmv2 responses. The older authentication
> version has to been included within the new Samba but I would suspect, even
> though ntlmv2 has been patented by MS to stop such collaborations, a
> solution will be forth coming.
>
> Also adding \\MyServer_or_Station_hostname\\share_name\ and stations ip to
> /etc/hosts, the shares became accessible. Maybe a bit of over-kill but it
> worked. Rock solid. (Note: used fix IP addresses, though they are fairly
> stable on a network and it heads off any later complications.)
>
> The new Ubuntu is a real thing of beauty and installation took no longer,
> maybe less, than it would on a Windows install...I was quite impressed. (It
> loads and runs very fast.)
>
> Jim
>
> _______________________________________________
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Wed Mar 14 08:38:22 2012
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:38:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
In-Reply-To: <3E09903CE12E4D2C815B96E5E65E5641@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <sf5c5ca5.080@cactus.dk>
	<4F5CF71E.9090300@earthlink.net><089B404C7CA8480290EAAE27B3A83279@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4F5E417F.9070206@earthlink.net>
	<3E09903CE12E4D2C815B96E5E65E5641@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <4F609F4E.2040800@earthlink.net>

On 3/13/2012 8:55 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Perry:
>
> One final comment of the Windows7 and XP networking controversy.
>
> When Microsoft created the TCP/IP networking stack for the XP, it was
> ordered to search first for pier to pier workgroups and then a domain
> controller. The brand spanking new TCP/IP networking stack for Windows 7 had
> the reverse order in which it first looked the domain controller and once
> that was found, it would then, if directed via the setup, look for a
> workgroup.
>
> I have only worked on networks with domain controllers so I would never run
> into the issues you have.
>
> What happens is the Win7 spends up to 5 minutes trying to find its network
> domain controller, equally as long when contacted via XP and when that fails
> will reluctantly start looking for any WG. An XP box trying to get access to
> a Win7 box basically gives up trying by then.
>
> Within programming there is a couple of links that may assist is getting XP
> and Win7 to talk:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa377522(VS.85).aspx
> ...and...
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa376851(v=VS.85).aspx
>
> The above are just commands allowing you as a programmer, to wait out Win7's
> super slow acknowledgement and not a real fix.
>
> The only real fix for this problem is to get with the program...that is
> either replace all your XP stations with Win7 or install a real Server, with
> AD, setting up server to station policies and setup user server login
> accounts.

Life's way too short to organise round Micro$haft, we're not about to 
reconfigure all these boxes just to comply with Win 7 architecture.

> Microsoft has decided that the defunct/depreciated security risky
> desktop of XP is not worth spending any more time or money on supporting as
> it runs out completely by June of this year.

Their version of scheduled obsolescence. Ain't gonna play.

PB

-----

>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
>
> On 3/12/2012 12:15 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi Peter:
>>
>> That is interesting. I think Windows7 of XP protocols between each other
> are
>> not 100 percent compatible but if you use a statement that uses the
> absolute
>> IP address you should have no problem.
> But IPs are assigned dynamically, so when a machine disappears from the
> network for a day or three, and others reboot, we're screwed.
>
>> I do not have or traditionally work with networks that are domain type
> which
>> means everything is centrally controlled through the Active Directory and
>> the policies setup. Other than that I connect to the servers and station
> via
>> Remote desktop protocol RDP.
> That meets some needs, not ours. We have one *Nix box, five Win boxes
> and two tablets. Together they support a biz, a professional practice, a
> set of web development environments&  projects, a music server, and two
> authors, such that most machines need access to the innards of many
> others. If Microsoft designers don't approve of such a requirement, they
> can go screw.
>
>> But you can connect avoiding forcing the network to resolve the UNC by
>> keying in the IP address: \\192.168.134.100\MyShare. (That is assuming
> that
>> the Windows7 computer is 192.168.134.100) If you then have a user, other
>> than the administrator, you will be able to connect, entering the
>> appropriate username and password.
> Thanks for the suggestion, but see above.
>
> Windows 7 gives us yet more Microsoft (in)security fixes for their daft
> mutually interpenetrating bloatware architecture. Ugh.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>> HTH
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:04 PM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 7 Prof network puzzle
>>
>> Mebbe I should ask the question this way:
>>
>> Has*anybody* succeeded is accessing a Win 7 Pro hard drive from an XP
>> Pro machine? If yes, how'd you do it?
>>
>> PB
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Mar 17 13:35:28 2012
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:35:28 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro all over
Message-ID: <sf64e7a8.040@cactus.dk>

Hi all

The excellent Metro design will be all over. 
Now Windows Server 8:

http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure21331809959475.JPG

http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure11331809752036.JPG

/gustav


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar 19 10:29:25 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:29:25 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro all over
In-Reply-To: <sf64e7a8.040@cactus.dk>
References: <sf64e7a8.040@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <A6B1C92C6C9840A8AAEA206AC234ADCA@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Can Windows8 be saved? 

Well one programmer thinks so as he has designed a new start button. :-)

http://tinyurl.com/6mk43wr

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:35 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro all over

Hi all

The excellent Metro design will be all over. 
Now Windows Server 8:

http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure21331809959475.JPG

http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure11331809752036.JPG

/gustav

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar 20 10:46:58 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:46:58 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro all over
Message-ID: <sf68b4a5.020@cactus.dk>

Hi all

And Office 15 including Access:

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/office/microsoft-office-15-preview-142569

/gustav


>>> gustav at cactus.dk 17-03-2012 19:35:28 >>>
Hi all

The excellent Metro design will be all over. 
Now Windows Server 8:

http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure21331809959475.JPG 

http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure11331809752036.JPG 

/gustav
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Tue Mar 20 11:17:22 2012
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:17:22 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro all over
In-Reply-To: <sf68b4a5.020@cactus.dk>
References: <sf68b4a5.020@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5698962F-1441-4BD4-A41A-632EA2D66AD4@phulse.com>


I don't see why Microsoft would focus on making their server products all pretty & flashy. Wouldn't it be better for performance if you cut out all the sizzle and just have something simple like the Windows NT/2000 UI ? Personally, I prefer my servers not to have anything but the core OS. My Linux servers only have a command prompt and that's all. No need to waste CPU cycles on things like a Metro interface and Aero.

Hans



On 2012-03-20, at 8:46 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> And Office 15 including Access:
> 
> http://www.winsupersite.com/article/office/microsoft-office-15-preview-142569
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
>>>> gustav at cactus.dk 17-03-2012 19:35:28 >>>
> Hi all
> 
> The excellent Metro design will be all over. 
> Now Windows Server 8:
> 
> http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure21331809959475.JPG 
> 
> http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure11331809752036.JPG 
> 
> /gustav
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar 20 11:42:14 2012
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:42:14 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro all over
Message-ID: <sf68c18e.023@cactus.dk>

Hi Hans

You are in luck. Windows Server 8 is core only. The admin interface is to be installed on an admin machine.
On the server will only be the command line, PowerShell, and commandlets for this.

/gustav


>>> hans.andersen at phulse.com 20-03-2012 17:17:22 >>>

I don't see why Microsoft would focus on making their server products all pretty & flashy. Wouldn't it be better for performance if you cut out all the sizzle and just have something simple like the Windows NT/2000 UI ? Personally, I prefer my servers not to have anything but the core OS. My Linux servers only have a command prompt and that's all. No need to waste CPU cycles on things like a Metro interface and Aero.

Hans



On 2012-03-20, at 8:46 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> And Office 15 including Access:
> 
> http://www.winsupersite.com/article/office/microsoft-office-15-preview-142569 
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
>>>> gustav at cactus.dk 17-03-2012 19:35:28 >>>
> Hi all
> 
> The excellent Metro design will be all over. 
> Now Windows Server 8:
> 
> http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure21331809959475.JPG 
> 
> http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure11331809752036.JPG 
> 
> /gustav



From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Tue Mar 20 11:50:18 2012
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:50:18 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro all over
In-Reply-To: <sf68c18e.023@cactus.dk>
References: <sf68c18e.023@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <A12CA140-970A-41BC-9EB8-FD7C759E3CB9@phulse.com>


Oh good. Say what you want about Metro (or as some call it, MS Bob v2), but Microsoft made a good call here.

Hans



On 2012-03-20, at 9:42 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi Hans
> 
> You are in luck. Windows Server 8 is core only. The admin interface is to be installed on an admin machine.
> On the server will only be the command line, PowerShell, and commandlets for this.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
>>>> hans.andersen at phulse.com 20-03-2012 17:17:22 >>>
> 
> I don't see why Microsoft would focus on making their server products all pretty & flashy. Wouldn't it be better for performance if you cut out all the sizzle and just have something simple like the Windows NT/2000 UI ? Personally, I prefer my servers not to have anything but the core OS. My Linux servers only have a command prompt and that's all. No need to waste CPU cycles on things like a Metro interface and Aero.
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
> On 2012-03-20, at 8:46 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> And Office 15 including Access:
>> 
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/article/office/microsoft-office-15-preview-142569 
>> 
>> /gustav
>> 
>> 
>>>>> gustav at cactus.dk 17-03-2012 19:35:28 >>>
>> Hi all
>> 
>> The excellent Metro design will be all over. 
>> Now Windows Server 8:
>> 
>> http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure21331809959475.JPG 
>> 
>> http://images.isoftmarketing.com/WSnews12-Figure11331809752036.JPG 
>> 
>> /gustav
> 
> 
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Mar 27 11:57:24 2012
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:57:24 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel bug?
Message-ID: <0E56C213E7BD4922B4B15EAE9F8A0EC5@SusanHarkins>

Using Excel 2010 -- when I set print titles to a row or two, Print Preview shows only the title rows -- no more data in print preview! Am I doing something wrong?????

Susan H. 

From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Wed Mar 28 08:57:12 2012
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:57:12 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel bug?
In-Reply-To: <0E56C213E7BD4922B4B15EAE9F8A0EC5@SusanHarkins>
References: <0E56C213E7BD4922B4B15EAE9F8A0EC5@SusanHarkins>
Message-ID: <4F7318B8.2060708@torchlake.com>

Hi Susan,
My best guess is to check that the range is set in the print area 
field.  I have two title rows and a print area for my grading 
spreadsheet, and it works well.  Take a look and make sure you do have a 
print area set.
T

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields at torchlake.com
231-322-2787


On 3/27/2012 12:57 PM, Susan Harkins wrote:
> Using Excel 2010 -- when I set print titles to a row or two, Print Preview shows only the title rows -- no more data in print preview! Am I doing something wrong?????
>
> Susan H.
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar 28 10:00:35 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:00:35 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] ASP.NET MVC, Web API,
	Razor and Open Source - ScottGu's Blog
In-Reply-To: <A12CA140-970A-41BC-9EB8-FD7C759E3CB9@phulse.com>
References: <sf68c18e.023@cactus.dk>
	<A12CA140-970A-41BC-9EB8-FD7C759E3CB9@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <3EBA688893B54207AEB99F256E086668@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Hans posted this link to me this morning and I am fowarding here:

<message>
Some people at Microsoft are starting to get it... a decade late, but oh
well

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2012/03/27/asp-net-mvc-web-api-razor-
and-open-source.aspx

</message>

I will now expect ASP.Net, in a short while, after all the paper work,
second guessing and the wringing of hands, to proceed. It is like a Catholic
officially converting to Buddhism.I would expect MS has done a lot of soul
searching first, even after the ASP.Net Microsoft team has publically come
out.

And then, after the programming community is assured that the ice isn't
going crack and no one is going come and take all the hockey equipment away,
at a moments notice, I will expect an unprecedented surge in fixes,
features, advances and compatibility.

This is excellent news. 

Jim


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Mar 29 08:54:46 2012
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:54:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gSH5K0yjpcXnyjufATBVyjevN6W=hnVGvMFMbETzBvcw@mail.gmail.com>

>From slashdot...

*"Red wine is a popular marinade for meat, but it also may become a popular
treatment for creating iron-based superconductors as
well<http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27664/?p1=blogs>
 (Link to academic paper <http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4503>): 'Last year, a
group of Japanese physicists grabbed headlines around the world by
announcing that they could induce superconductivity in a sample of iron
telluride by soaking it in red wine. They found that other alcoholic drinks
also worked ? white wine, beer, sake and so on ? but red wine was by far
the best. The question, of course, is why. What is it about red wine that
does the trick? Today, these guys provide an answer ? at least in part.
Keita Deguchi at the National Institute for Materials Science in Tsukuba,
Japan, and a few buddies, say the mystery ingredient is tartaric acid and
have the experimental data to show that it plays an important role in the
process. ... It turns out the best performer is a wine made from the gamay
grape ? for the connoisseurs, that's a 2009 Beajoulais from the Paul
Beaudet winery in central France.'"*

-- 
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar 29 10:46:08 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:46:08 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gSH5K0yjpcXnyjufATBVyjevN6W=hnVGvMFMbETzBvcw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gSH5K0yjpcXnyjufATBVyjevN6W=hnVGvMFMbETzBvcw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1906A1630E0B4982878608BB572D6A40@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Now that is very interesting.

An aside: I have always wondered why I am drawn toward marinated beef
especially with red wine. Now we have the answer.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:55 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

>From slashdot...

*"Red wine is a popular marinade for meat, but it also may become a popular
treatment for creating iron-based superconductors as
well<http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27664/?p1=blogs>
 (Link to academic paper <http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4503>): 'Last year, a
group of Japanese physicists grabbed headlines around the world by
announcing that they could induce superconductivity in a sample of iron
telluride by soaking it in red wine. They found that other alcoholic drinks
also worked - white wine, beer, sake and so on - but red wine was by far
the best. The question, of course, is why. What is it about red wine that
does the trick? Today, these guys provide an answer - at least in part.
Keita Deguchi at the National Institute for Materials Science in Tsukuba,
Japan, and a few buddies, say the mystery ingredient is tartaric acid and
have the experimental data to show that it plays an important role in the
process. ... It turns out the best performer is a wine made from the gamay
grape - for the connoisseurs, that's a 2009 Beajoulais from the Paul
Beaudet winery in central France.'"*

-- 
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Mar 29 10:59:32 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:59:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands
In-Reply-To: <1906A1630E0B4982878608BB572D6A40@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gSH5K0yjpcXnyjufATBVyjevN6W=hnVGvMFMbETzBvcw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1906A1630E0B4982878608BB572D6A40@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <6195592F52BC44828BCBB67EC7953C16@HAL9007>

You want to be a superconductor?  Is that your secret super power?  Or you
just want to run roughshod over the passengers on your train?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

Now that is very interesting.

An aside: I have always wondered why I am drawn toward marinated beef
especially with red wine. Now we have the answer.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:55 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

>From slashdot...

*"Red wine is a popular marinade for meat, but it also may become a popular
treatment for creating iron-based superconductors as
well<http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27664/?p1=blogs>
 (Link to academic paper <http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4503>): 'Last year, a
group of Japanese physicists grabbed headlines around the world by
announcing that they could induce superconductivity in a sample of iron
telluride by soaking it in red wine. They found that other alcoholic drinks
also worked - white wine, beer, sake and so on - but red wine was by far the
best. The question, of course, is why. What is it about red wine that does
the trick? Today, these guys provide an answer - at least in part.
Keita Deguchi at the National Institute for Materials Science in Tsukuba,
Japan, and a few buddies, say the mystery ingredient is tartaric acid and
have the experimental data to show that it plays an important role in the
process. ... It turns out the best performer is a wine made from the gamay
grape - for the connoisseurs, that's a 2009 Beajoulais from the Paul Beaudet
winery in central France.'"*

--
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr
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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Mar 29 11:08:16 2012
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:08:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone know of a good cheap or no cost simple web site
	hosts
Message-ID: <033a01cd0dc6$26b8e6b0$742ab410$@winhaven.net>

Hi all,

I have a number of non-profits clients who have been doing their own
smallish, simple websites using Windows Live free website service. The free
service ends soon.

 

Does anyone have experience with a "build your own" type of web site service
that non-website designers (these are mostly the typical secretary types
doing this) can use? They don't necessarily have to be free, they just can't
afford $6-700 a year to maintain some minimal web site.



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Mar 29 11:15:08 2012
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone know of a good cheap or no cost simple web
	sitehosts
In-Reply-To: <033a01cd0dc6$26b8e6b0$742ab410$@winhaven.net>
References: <033a01cd0dc6$26b8e6b0$742ab410$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <116D12C1BB644E6CBD4120E162E6E833@HAL9007>

Take a look at GoDaddy's Web Site Tonight program.   Their hosting fees are
real low.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:08 AM
To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; DBA-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone know of a good cheap or no cost simple web
sitehosts

Hi all,

I have a number of non-profits clients who have been doing their own
smallish, simple websites using Windows Live free website service. The free
service ends soon.

 

Does anyone have experience with a "build your own" type of web site service
that non-website designers (these are mostly the typical secretary types
doing this) can use? They don't necessarily have to be free, they just can't
afford $6-700 a year to maintain some minimal web site.


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Mar 29 12:40:47 2012
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:40:47 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands
In-Reply-To: <6195592F52BC44828BCBB67EC7953C16@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <8E9F95CD2D584F5A82B29F32F98742A5@MINSTER>

Jeez what a waste of red wine. 

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 March 2012 17:00
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands


You want to be a superconductor?  Is that your secret super power?  Or you
just want to run roughshod over the passengers on your train?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

Now that is very interesting.

An aside: I have always wondered why I am drawn toward marinated beef
especially with red wine. Now we have the answer.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:55 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

>From slashdot...

*"Red wine is a popular marinade for meat, but it also may become a popular
treatment for creating iron-based superconductors as
well<http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27664/?p1=blogs>
 (Link to academic paper <http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4503>): 'Last year, a
group of Japanese physicists grabbed headlines around the world by
announcing that they could induce superconductivity in a sample of iron
telluride by soaking it in red wine. They found that other alcoholic drinks
also worked - white wine, beer, sake and so on - but red wine was by far the
best. The question, of course, is why. What is it about red wine that does
the trick? Today, these guys provide an answer - at least in part.
Keita Deguchi at the National Institute for Materials Science in Tsukuba,
Japan, and a few buddies, say the mystery ingredient is tartaric acid and
have the experimental data to show that it plays an important role in the
process. ... It turns out the best performer is a wine made from the gamay
grape - for the connoisseurs, that's a 2009 Beajoulais from the Paul Beaudet
winery in central France.'"*

--
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar 29 17:53:23 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:53:23 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands
In-Reply-To: <8E9F95CD2D584F5A82B29F32F98742A5@MINSTER>
References: <6195592F52BC44828BCBB67EC7953C16@HAL9007>
	<8E9F95CD2D584F5A82B29F32F98742A5@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <9CBF15DE284F41E6912FE1DB9C90A0CC@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Agreed, and you can see how red wine can make a lot things attractive.

Long time no hear...so how has it being going? :-)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:41 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

Jeez what a waste of red wine. 

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 March 2012 17:00
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands


You want to be a superconductor?  Is that your secret super power?  Or you
just want to run roughshod over the passengers on your train?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

Now that is very interesting.

An aside: I have always wondered why I am drawn toward marinated beef
especially with red wine. Now we have the answer.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:55 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

>From slashdot...

*"Red wine is a popular marinade for meat, but it also may become a popular
treatment for creating iron-based superconductors as
well<http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27664/?p1=blogs>
 (Link to academic paper <http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4503>): 'Last year, a
group of Japanese physicists grabbed headlines around the world by
announcing that they could induce superconductivity in a sample of iron
telluride by soaking it in red wine. They found that other alcoholic drinks
also worked - white wine, beer, sake and so on - but red wine was by far the
best. The question, of course, is why. What is it about red wine that does
the trick? Today, these guys provide an answer - at least in part.
Keita Deguchi at the National Institute for Materials Science in Tsukuba,
Japan, and a few buddies, say the mystery ingredient is tartaric acid and
have the experimental data to show that it plays an important role in the
process. ... It turns out the best performer is a wine made from the gamay
grape - for the connoisseurs, that's a 2009 Beajoulais from the Paul Beaudet
winery in central France.'"*

--
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Thu Mar 29 22:27:32 2012
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:27:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone know of a good cheap or no cost simple web
	site	hosts
In-Reply-To: <033a01cd0dc6$26b8e6b0$742ab410$@winhaven.net>
References: <033a01cd0dc6$26b8e6b0$742ab410$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <006101cd0e25$0b015d30$21041790$@net>

http://www.weebly.com/

I used to do the website for a friend. I had originally set up a WordPress
site for him, but he was having too much trouble with it. So he would just
feed me information to update the regular web pages. Then someone told him
about Weebly and he tried it out and found it very easy to use. He did
*everything* from scratch and when he was ready, I changed the DNS to go to
his Weebly site and this is the result:
http://www.hivhope.net/

I think he did a great job for having absolutely no web skills.

--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net?? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:08 AM
> To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; DBA-Tech
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone know of a good cheap or no cost simple web
> site hosts
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a number of non-profits clients who have been doing their own
> smallish, simple websites using Windows Live free website service. The
> free service ends soon.
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have experience with a "build your own" type of web site
> service that non-website designers (these are mostly the typical
> secretary types doing this) can use? They don't necessarily have to be
> free, they just can't afford $6-700 a year to maintain some minimal web
> site.
> 
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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Fri Mar 30 03:08:01 2012
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:08:01 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone know of a good cheap or no cost simple web
	site hosts
In-Reply-To: <033a01cd0dc6$26b8e6b0$742ab410$@winhaven.net>
References: <033a01cd0dc6$26b8e6b0$742ab410$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCgJC4Ft18YsQ_K+2ZkQz3DZKs41BPv7GhHhpQkCbNYFGw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi John,

Google apps offers website hosting, online docs, online email and online
calendar all for free for qty of users less than 10.  The email is
effectively gmail for companies.  It is a really good service for free.

It takes a bit of setting up but I think the combination package is really
good.  And free is a good price.

All email is then hosted and backed up in the google cloud.  Of course, if
they prefer to use Outlook or Outlook Express, they still can.

If they only want the website, they can ignore the email and still have
free website hosting with tools online to allow you to build the site
yourself.

My daughter Caitlin is thirteen now, but she build
http://www.caitlinbreen.com herself when she was 10 / 11.

While you are there, take a look at her Good Karma
Wristlets<http://www.caitlinbreen.com/products-for-sale>
.

Mark




On 29 March 2012 17:08, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a number of non-profits clients who have been doing their own
> smallish, simple websites using Windows Live free website service. The free
> service ends soon.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have experience with a "build your own" type of web site
> service
> that non-website designers (these are mostly the typical secretary types
> doing this) can use? They don't necessarily have to be free, they just
> can't
> afford $6-700 a year to maintain some minimal web site.
>
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Mar 30 03:27:47 2012
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:27:47 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands
In-Reply-To: <9CBF15DE284F41E6912FE1DB9C90A0CC@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <CBEFB4338A124308BD8E3B566B5D51D9@MINSTER>

Fine Jim, thanks for asking. Am only an Access part-timer now but I keep an
eye on the list still. Judged by some members' experience I count myself
lucky to have work. I think I'll reach retirement without having to learn a
new technology, for which I'm thankful. Don't think my small brain could
cope.

Cheers

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 29 March 2012 23:53
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands


Agreed, and you can see how red wine can make a lot things attractive.

Long time no hear...so how has it being going? :-)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:41 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

Jeez what a waste of red wine. 

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 29 March 2012 17:00
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands


You want to be a superconductor?  Is that your secret super power?  Or you
just want to run roughshod over the passengers on your train?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

Now that is very interesting.

An aside: I have always wondered why I am drawn toward marinated beef
especially with red wine. Now we have the answer.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:55 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Too much time on their hands

>From slashdot...

*"Red wine is a popular marinade for meat, but it also may become a popular
treatment for creating iron-based superconductors as
well<http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27664/?p1=blogs>
 (Link to academic paper <http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4503>): 'Last year, a
group of Japanese physicists grabbed headlines around the world by
announcing that they could induce superconductivity in a sample of iron
telluride by soaking it in red wine. They found that other alcoholic drinks
also worked - white wine, beer, sake and so on - but red wine was by far the
best. The question, of course, is why. What is it about red wine that does
the trick? Today, these guys provide an answer - at least in part.
Keita Deguchi at the National Institute for Materials Science in Tsukuba,
Japan, and a few buddies, say the mystery ingredient is tartaric acid and
have the experimental data to show that it plays an important role in the
process. ... It turns out the best performer is a wine made from the gamay
grape - for the connoisseurs, that's a 2009 Beajoulais from the Paul Beaudet
winery in central France.'"*

--
Arthur
Cell: 647.710.1314

Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
  -- Niels Bohr
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Fri Mar 30 07:24:32 2012
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:24:32 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel bug?
In-Reply-To: <0E56C213E7BD4922B4B15EAE9F8A0EC5@SusanHarkins>
References: <0E56C213E7BD4922B4B15EAE9F8A0EC5@SusanHarkins>
Message-ID: <4F75A600.1080906@torchlake.com>

Did you get this solved?
T

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields at torchlake.com
231-322-2787


On 3/27/2012 12:57 PM, Susan Harkins wrote:
> Using Excel 2010 -- when I set print titles to a row or two, Print Preview shows only the title rows -- no more data in print preview! Am I doing something wrong?????
>
> Susan H.
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Mar 30 07:38:52 2012
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:38:52 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel bug?
References: <0E56C213E7BD4922B4B15EAE9F8A0EC5@SusanHarkins>
	<4F75A600.1080906@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <9E56E708544343A6ABF247BAA059369E@SusanHarkins>

Oh groan... it was totally me. :) I don't even remember now what I was doing 
wrong. It was something stupid... one of those "Oh man...!" moments. :)

Susan H.


> Did you get this solved?
> T
>
> On 3/27/2012 12:57 PM, Susan Harkins wrote:
>> Using Excel 2010 -- when I set print titles to a row or two, Print 
>> Preview shows only the title rows -- no more data in print preview! Am I 
>> doing something wrong?????
>>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 30 17:36:09 2012
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:36:09 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone know of a good cheap or no cost simple
	website	hosts
In-Reply-To: <006101cd0e25$0b015d30$21041790$@net>
References: <033a01cd0dc6$26b8e6b0$742ab410$@winhaven.net>
	<006101cd0e25$0b015d30$21041790$@net>
Message-ID: <AEACEDC8B2A643C2B0332B22B09AED50@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Your friend did a great job with his site. It is better than some of the
"professional" sites I have seen and have had to rebuild. 

His site could just a little cleanup from a website designer like yourself.
All the features are there and now a little organization and cleanup and it
could be brilliant.

I have been working for weeks on various sites and the sight of some designs
almost brings me to tears. If I had ten dollars for every time someone has
said, "Would you believe that I made the whole site myself?" (I lie of
course.); I would not be building websites. 

As I do a lot of art sites, this particular link struck me a really funny.
It was sent by a friend in the biz:

http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/05/31/how-not-to-display-your-artwork-on-
the-web/

(I was thinking this link with a few changes might describe the new Windows
8 interface <evil grin>)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:28 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Anyone know of a good cheap or no cost simple
website hosts

http://www.weebly.com/

I used to do the website for a friend. I had originally set up a WordPress
site for him, but he was having too much trouble with it. So he would just
feed me information to update the regular web pages. Then someone told him
about Weebly and he tried it out and found it very easy to use. He did
*everything* from scratch and when he was ready, I changed the DNS to go to
his Weebly site and this is the result:
http://www.hivhope.net/

I think he did a great job for having absolutely no web skills.

--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net?? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:08 AM
> To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; DBA-Tech
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone know of a good cheap or no cost simple web
> site hosts
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a number of non-profits clients who have been doing their own
> smallish, simple websites using Windows Live free website service. The
> free service ends soon.
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have experience with a "build your own" type of web site
> service that non-website designers (these are mostly the typical
> secretary types doing this) can use? They don't necessarily have to be
> free, they just can't afford $6-700 a year to maintain some minimal web
> site.
> 
> 
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