[dba-Tech] Enterprise in 20 Years

Rocky Smolin rockysmolin at bchacc.com
Sun May 13 23:47:16 CDT 2012


Stuart has made it clear to us on OT that he thinks man-made global warming
is a total fraud foisted on a gullible public and a complete waste of time
and money.  

Join us on OT for more thrilling entertainment on this and many other
unmentionable subjects.


R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mattys
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:06 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Enterprise in 20 Years

Interesting. 

Stuart's comment was about where the needed funds could (not should) come
from in order to build the Enterprise.
Hans sensed a deeper sentiment in Stuart's statement containing the word
'wasted.'

Perhaps Stuart means to say that the two endeavors are equally futile or
have equal potential. Perhaps not.
Hans apparently regards expenditure on space exploration as less fruitful
than 'researching/combatting climate change.'
Controlling climate may prove to increase sustainability for constantly
growing humanity.
Then again, it might unleash terrible consequences such as disease.

Michael R Mattys
Mattys Consulting, LLC
www.mattysconsulting.com


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
Andersen
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:00 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Enterprise in 20 Years


If this discussion is heading towards a debate on whether climate change is
man-made or not, I am not interested in debating this. I found that this is
a waste of time, because I am neither an expert nor do I want to pretend to
be one.

Hans



On 2012-05-13, at 6:16 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> They are no more  similar as concepts as  a bicycle is to a fish.
> 
> Are you trying to say  that "sustainability" is a cure for "climate 
> change". If so, we obviously need to agree on what we mean by 
> "sustainability" and "climate change" and in what way (if
> any) they are related.
> 
> 
> 
> On 13 May 2012 at 18:01, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote:
> 
>> 
>> To be quite frank, I'm not understanding what it is you are objecting 
>> to
and why. They are no more different as concepts as a cure is to an illness.
Please be more forthcoming.
>> 
>> Hans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-05-13, at 5:23 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>> 
>>> Why do you conflate two totally different concepts?
>>> 
>>> What have climate change and sustainability got to do with each other?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13 May 2012 at 16:33, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Then what did you mean by " researching/combatting climate change " ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2012-05-13, at 4:01 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Please don't put words into my mouth.  I didn't say anything about
"living more sustainably"
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stuart
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 May 2012 at 15:56, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> How would building a single ship make better sense than figuring 
>>>>>> out
how we can live more sustainably on the only habitable planet that we know
of so far?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Hans-Christian Andersen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13 May 2012, at 15:08, "Stuart McLachlan" 
>>>>>> <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We can do it if we divert all the money currently being wasted 
>>>>>>> on researching/combatting "climate change" :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 May 2012 at 17:04, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From slashdot...An engineer has produced detailed specs of how 
>>>>>>>> to build an ion-drive version of The Enterprise within 20 
>>>>>>>> years. I've read it all and studied some parts in detail, and 
>>>>>>>> deem it feasible. However, I lack the funds.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Arthur
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.
>>>>>>>> -- Niels Bohr
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